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May 15, 2025 52 mins

Ashley & Alexis are joined by W.A.G.S star Porsha Nicole react Hallie Bailey requesting sole custody of her son, have men become the new baddies?

01:38 - Introduction
18:12 - Hallie Bailey Custody battle
33:33 - Have men become the new baddies?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I get in my way, never out of my lad
It's been like you one and the Mother one, so
it is gonna be baby squad. What's up, everybody? Welcome
to another episode of Humble Jaddies. I'm your girl, Alexis Stottamayer,
and we are here to give you some of the
what's late, the latest tea, the vibes, the good energy.

(00:22):
You know what's good? What's good lady? Hey girl? We
got our in her house for Schberto here filling in
for our girl, Chiralle. What's up? Hey?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I know I missed y'all too. I can't wait to
get back down to my head. Sweet now I'm coming
home because I needed of all. Okay, I guess mm
hmm you hear how Alectra tried me. She already said
I looked like something off of Twilight.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I mean you could, it's a little yeah. I think
she think I'm giving Everlasting White One. It's cute. It's
still pretty everlasting White Lady, and it's so funny, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Whenever I get my makeup done, that's my first bit
of instruction is please don't make me look.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Like a white woman like wash you out. It can go. Yeah,
you know what I mean. I want to be bronze,
like bronze me down. I want to be brown. Yes,
there you go, like a new Yeah, I make up.
I don't want much. This is Beyon makeup. I'm not

(01:27):
on here. Mismatch coloring everything else and girls, it's kind
of Facebook here, a little more South and get you
some of this that, okay, trying to be brown like
the girls like the Gates. Yeah, I'll do. He's so good,
my little chunky bug y'all. He's the best.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I try not to say things like oh, good baby,
bad baby, because there's no such thing as a bad baby.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
He's a good thing. There's a colleague baby. Yeah, that's
that's a good baby right now, that baby, that's a
good baby. Last thing too that you know, him being
the latest one, you know, like because that can like
change up a little bit of the day. Would have
another just makes it easier. I will, I will say that.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I feel like that's how people get pushed into having
four and five babies, because they get that one baby
that's just like you, you know, like I'm an amazing no,
but he's just great.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
You know what I mean? Answer question, are you gonna
happ another baby. I don't know. I don't think it's
up to me. Okay, that's great, But are you saying
it's up to God or it's up to your husband?
I mean, oh, kind of right, it's giving both, you know.
I think I think I would be open to it.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Not right now though, I'm so tired, y'all, I'm exhausted,
Like I don't have I heard of you girls?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Oh damn, sleepy all the time. But if you want
another one, I'd be like, yeah, okay, look a sure,
Well I'm beyond babies. But I am celebrating mike anna
Sary today with y'all. Ye nis, you know is they

(03:15):
what a blessing and actually congratulate, thank you, thank you.
How many years has it been our eighthleng year? I
know that's right, yeah, our eighth year. But we've been
together sixteen years, so I mean, to me, I feel
like it's been a lifetime, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
I have a question.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Because I'm almost like you, it's been fifteen years for us,
but six years Mary, But have you ever heard of
the seven years?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah? Yes, that's when I have the second year. Yeah,
I don't know if seven years, I definitely feel like
it was maybe around six years. I feel like we
wasn't itching, but we needed some wotion. You know what
I'm saying. We were with actual dry. Yeah, I'm saying

(04:07):
we wasn't itchy yet, but it was you were definitely
getting to a point where we needed some moisturizing of
our relationship, you know what I'm saying. And so yeah,
it's like we definitely felt it. So I ain't trying
to full No, how can moisturize it? I'm so intrigued.
How'd you moisturized? Because I'm coming up on this is good?

(04:30):
This is good dialogue to know about it. By the way,
they forget, Yeah, I got you know, before it got
to us being itchy. You know what I'm saying, we
was a little it was a little dry, and I
felt like it was a communication thing. Communication was dry,
and like we really needed time to like sit down
and really express like our feelings. You know, every day

(04:53):
I would be saying what I'm frustrated about, but not
what I'm frustrated about, you know what I'm saying. It
would be like a little things that I'm like mad
at him about. But the real four issues we weren't addressing,
and so I feel like, really it took conversations of
us sitting outside, like I have somebody you know here
with the kids, and we literally sat outside y'all know,

(05:15):
I'm always outside, and we sat outside on the grass,
shoes off, like just talks, you know, just having conversation. Yeah,
like we really needed to ground ourselves round our relationship
and just like talk for hours and just like lay
it all out. So we did that. We went away,

(05:39):
you know, so we can have more conversation, you know,
time just for ourselves. And I really feel like just
being open and honest about what we were really feeling
and really like making a decision about what we're gonna
do moving forward, because it's like, yeah, we can talk
about it all day, but like moving forward, like what
kind of marriage do you want to have? For real?
Like because you know, we could be married and it

(06:01):
could suck. We can have, you know, a good marriage,
you know, so or have a good marriage yeah, or
you know. So it's like one you're trying to be here,
like first of all, you know, yeah, yeah there you
want to be here because if you don't, well we
both did and we knew that but it's like, okay,
we both want the same things, then like what are

(06:22):
we doing? So really you just got to ask the
question like do you want to be here? What kind
of marriage do you want to have? What kind of
life do you want? What kind of husband do you want?
What are your expectations of me? You know what? Where
do you see us building together? What do you see
you building on your own life? Just really whatever those

(06:44):
like four questions are. I feel like we really had
to sit down and talk about it because just going
every day like doing your thing and then waiting until
something happens to try to have a conversation about those things,
it doesn't work. Like you really got to be specific
because it's your marriage and it's forever and you need
to be specific about what you want your marriage to be.

(07:06):
Like I feel that, yeah, thank you girl. Yes, So
don't let it get on. Don't let it get itchy
when he and you know we don't want it to
be itchy. Okay, every get you some shade letters, get
you some suber diurn.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
We have therapy in here every day, Like I fully
became hy therapist and I think he became nine. But
it's you know necessary here.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yes, it is, and it's something you have to do
every day your pollotional every day. You're asking me to
get ashy every day or are you gonna look at
bactly gotta check in got you? That's so that's my
love advice. Now you know we on your A. I'm
still learning and you know, so whatever advice, I'm always
like here. But I just know that worked for us

(07:54):
when we had when we had got a little dry
or whatever, but it was this So seven years is
when actually it was started to be a separation and divorce.
So I feel real fairly yeah, yeah, like that's been real,
Like it's been studied like that. It has been real, absolutely,

(08:17):
and it's not that obviously it just wasn't seven years
because we have children prior to that, but like that's
when things started to shift. And I agree with you, Ashley.
I think it's commendable that you're honest because you're in
it and others are in it and listening, because I
feel like if more people in our circle, in our community,
that people that were like there for us were more

(08:38):
honest about what marriage look like, how hard it is,
how you know it goes ups and downs eighty twenty
sixty forty sometimes give and take all these things and
understanding your partner. I feel like that could have been
a little bit of a catalyst for us to kind
of maybe think get things a little bit better. You know,

(08:58):
I feel like we were just almost out there during
this out bars. So without that, you want to know
what it all thought.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
You know, we all thought that the worst thing that
could happen in your marriage is infidelphy and it plainly
just right everybody, But as long as he a GEN
and I ain't GEN, and you think that's the worst
thing that can happen to you, correct Truthfully.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
It's just life. You're growing up, you're getting older now
you're an adult, chiuhood traumas come up.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yes, you know your parents, your children are being born,
they're going through stuff, financial stuff, and then.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
You different people like I'm not the same person that
he met, you know, in two different you know what
I'm saying, And you're not supposed to act. But that's
the thing, like people are like at one point he's like,
but you wasn't like that before. You didn't like that before.
I'm like, yeah, I know I was. He probably told
me that. Yet, you know, they're every definitely like natural

(09:59):
growing pains, but nobody really talks about that. But you know,
there's one thing that I don't subscribe to, and that's
that marriage is hard. And I feel like I hate
that saying. I hate when people say marriage is hard,
because nothing that's worth it and life is easy. First
of all, okay, second of all, it's hard if you

(10:21):
want it to be hard. You know what I'm saying, like, oh,
we need saying a marriage needs communication. We've been hearing
it since the beginning of time, saying like you have
to be honest. They're transparent and truthful. We know of
these things. It's just doing it, you know, It's just
actually being about it and doing the things that you say.
And I just feel like, you know, power is in

(10:45):
the tongue. So if you keep saying marriages, you know
what I'm saying, your marriage is gonna be hard. So
I just don't subscribe to saying those words out loud.
I will never be like I'm just like, you know,
he got my nurses. You know what I don't. I
don't like to say that it's hard, but it damn

(11:06):
show And that's that's what I was gonna say. It
is a little hard if not. But yeah, it's a
challenge and you're supposed to. You want to show up
positively over your marriage, protect your marriage, and yeah, I
just I just don't. I know that's right.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, Deacon will him, you better tell them, tell the
congregation the sights in the back, life and death.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
And I would have told her, yeah, hello, we want that,
we do need that for sure, but we canna fellerate
lok he I forgot about my anniversary call to wish
me and I was like, but his mama, mama, what's
she shady about. She was just like, oh, that's not yeah,

(11:56):
actually something yourself. Thank you, miss Phillis. She says she
sent us a gift. It hasn't come yet, but she
is so sweet, Like our relationship has grown so much
over the years, and I think that has helped our
marriage as well, because you know, when you don't, that's hard, okay.

(12:20):
So I'm glad that we are healed from our past
because if you ever watched any of my old show,
y'all know, it was a mess back in the day
and she couldn't okay, okay, nothing to play with. I
still love her, KANKI list, that's still her kne Fyllis.

(12:41):
I love her. Yeah, I love so we're gonna celebrate.
We're gonna celebrate. I don't know. In a couple of
weeks we're going out of town. But for now, I'm
gonna just be outside with my chickens. And that's time.
Do you think do you think the anniversary has changed
over time? Like it's just like we'll just celebrate later

(13:01):
when it's not. I do feel like in the beginning,
I was like count down the days to my anniversary,
and I was like, it's another day, another year. I
feel got it, Like you know, I'm happy, and you know,
I feel blessed that we made it to eight years,

(13:21):
because I mean we've been talking all the time, like
can you believe like we've been for eight years and
we got two key they're like an old person because
you feel like, who's lest you been married? We could
need a Harry who said that? Who shows that for
giving us kids?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, we say that a lot, but it is something
to be proud of sometimes that I don't get caught
up in the celebration of it or what we're gonna do.
Where's my if I don't do any of that, But
like we'll go to dinner and we'll just be like, oh,
like we're proud of us, you know what I mean,
accomplish men.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I love that. Yeah, I like that too. And you know,
I just think that in this day and age, we
really should like recognize it, like I shouldn't. We shouldn't
be so nonchal loud about it because honestly, like relationships
don't be lasting and marriages, people don't you know, uplift
it like they used to anymore, So we should you know,

(14:24):
celebrate it. And it is a big deal. So I
don't mean to like make it seem little of it
at all. I think it's but what's that? Yeah, yeah,
I understand.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
We feel you girl, We know you ain't we do
give all the emotion all the time, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, I just I feel I feel blessed every day,
you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm happy every day.
I take a moment every day to be like thank
God for all of this, you know what I'm saying. So,
but yeah, I don't make little of it at all.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Appreciate I need that dose of positivity to start the
the cast.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Okay, okay a little And that's just me. Look that's
for my fairy tale. Let's talk about uh Segment one
from fairy Tales to Headlines. Tonight, we're diving into a
story that's been making waves across social media and news outlets.

(15:23):
It's about love, fame, and the complexities that come with both.
We're talking about the recent allegations involving Haley Bailey and
her ex boyfriend Rapport d d G. That's right, Hailey.
Is her name Haley or Holly, Holly Haley? I think
it's Haley Haley Bailey. Yeah, Yeah, I'm talking about mad.

(15:50):
She's recently been granted temporary custody, granted a temporary restraining
order against BDG and citing multiple instances of abuse during
and after their relationship. The couple share a seventeen month
old son named Halo, and they began dating in twenty

(16:10):
twenty two, and they separated in October of twenty twenty four.
The court filings alleged physical abuse, verbal, emotional, and financial abuse,
including a January incident where DDG allegedly assaulted her during
a custody exchange, resulting in a chip too. Ooh did
y'all see that picture? Yeah. She also plaims that DDG

(16:34):
has used social media platforms to spread misinformation and incite
harassment against her, leading to threats and online abuse. It's
a deeply troubling situation that raises important questions about domestic violence,
especially in high profile relationships. So let's open up this
conversation with some questions that we hope will spark some

(16:57):
thoughtful discussions. All right, so controversial and conversational questions. Did
we all ignore red flags because the couple looked so
cute online? Were we too caught up in the aesthetic
of the relationship to notice things were off? Well, I

(17:18):
want to start by saying, one, we don't know what
people have going on behind closed doors. Let's see that one. Two,
these are two public figures, and we did see them
come together. We did see her, like you know, it
was since she was doing this run with Disney and
being you know, a Disney princess and Ariel, the first

(17:39):
black and only black Ariel by the way, I feel like,
you know, we were invested because she was doing so
much press while she was expecting, and so not only
that she was focused on her job doing her but
also didn't want to have the stigma of I'm not
married you know, I'm Disney, I'm all this, this and this.
So with all all of that pressure and all of

(18:01):
that going on, her body, changing her monol, all this stuff. Again,
we don't know what was going on behind closed doors. Obviously,
now what's done in the dark comes to the light
because here we are speaking on this and unfortunately there's
a baby, a baby involved, and we know this. As mothers,
you want to protect yours And obviously there's some other

(18:23):
things that have happened where it's like it may or
may be documented. I don't know specifics, but enough to
where she's like, my child is not safe in this environment. Yeah,
obviously if it's me, you know, I'm not safe in
this environment, and neither's this child. So I'm sure. I mean,
in order for just to even give a restraining order,

(18:43):
there is some kind of evidence of like at least like,
you know what, this situation is a little weird, so
you need to go ahead and stay away, you know,
until they have more you know, evidence, or whatever the
case may be. But if a judge grants a restrainer,
that means there is enough subnition significant amount of evidence
where they're like, you know what, this is not good

(19:04):
for her to be near you guys are not supposed
to be near each other. Right now the baby come
in and involved. It's tough because now again you want
to protect yours and now it's like, look, I gotta
take this baby with me, I gotta travel. She's gonna
have to work and take the shot with her, which
it is what it is. You gotta do what you
gotta do. But again, we just don't know what was

(19:27):
going on. So now it's out, you know, it's public,
and now we're just gonna you know, support her and
uplift her. And at the end of the day, we
have to believe when people are saying this happened to me,
you know. I know. She's also very nervous about his
his outcry of his public image as far as all
his followers, because he's a known streamer that you know

(19:49):
streams lied all the time and they're harassing her. So
it's also very volatile in that situation too, because now
you're adding that being both of you public figures, but
people can public posts these disheartening, you know things, So
it's a lot of mental and emotional abuse that she's
already saying she's had. So now you're adding these layers

(20:10):
to it. So it's sad. I'm supporting family all the
time and also but also safety first.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, let me tell you I was not caught up
and no aesthetic of nothing. I'm tell you why because
Little Mermaid. First of all, she has been following the
Beyonce Protocol her whole career. I ain't nothing saying nothing,
I ain't do nothing. She don't respond to nothing. He
probably because he's a streamer. I don't know a lot

(20:38):
about him, but everything that I do see is he
it on Twitter and he's like a certified yapper. Okay,
he was going at her. He was saying a lot
about her, about the relationship, about this, about that, and
I'm like, damn, Like, I mean, they're cute and everything,
but I really do wish it that he would kind
of be quiet about what they got going up. But
I understand that's part of his career or he you know,

(21:01):
he gets paid a lot to overshare get But it's
also just like.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
I cannot stand no man as a certified Yeah. I
think that's when she said that she was following the
Beyonce protocol. That's what I thought of her and her
sister like they were like following in the Beyonce footsteps
until she got him, and then I was like, wait
a minute, I know Beyonce didn't I sign off on this,

(21:28):
so I touldn't. Was not caught up in anything Beyonce's
son or aesthetic. I was just like as soon as
they became a thing and she was pregnant, I was like,
what is happening? Like I will say he did look
like a good dad, though you know what I'm saying.
He looked like a good dad. He looked like my parent,
but he hold his baby like this.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well with that and because he was always arguing with
people on the internet about that baby, he just looked
like a very passionate parent.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
But he that's a tension. It's like let me argue, like, yeah,
I'm not like her buying it. Also, he's short, and
I don't know short kings, but listen, I don't know.
It's just nothing about them made me be like, oh
that's cute. But no, I wasn't hot up in that.

(22:25):
But now that things aren't working out for them, I
don't know. Like when I saw her the picture of
the chip tooth thing, and also I saw like she
had posted a picture with her with Brent Fayaz or
whatever his name is on vacation. I think was it

(22:45):
this past weekend or it was something some weekend. Yeah,
and DDG got mad or whatever because he wanted to
see the baby, but she had took the baby to
saying Lusha and with her new boob. I guess no,
she went with her sister. You ended up happening, he assumed. No,
it wasn't even that it was he, but he popped

(23:09):
off because that receats here saying she's like, look, this
is how he is. Okay, this is well, I do all.
I just don't like them sundling out, like posting their business,
like having fights on the internet, like showing text messages.
I hate when like celebrities do that because like they're

(23:34):
gonna sund older and they're gonna see all of this,
you know what I mean. I really hate that part
of that part about it. And it just seems so
childish too, because like he's supposed to be adults and
then it's like we're seeing y'all bigger. I don't know,
I just don't. I just don't like it when it
goes public and we can see the like ins and
outs of the relationship. But I really do hope that,

(23:58):
you know, they figure it out. Like I hope she's saved,
the baby saved. I hope he can continue to somehow
be in the child's life. Like I hope they work
it out, you know what I mean. I just don't
like the childish parts of it. But my next question
is it's Hailey wrong for wanting full custody or is
she protecting her peace and her child. Let's be real,

(24:19):
if you don't trust your ex, do you owe them
fifty to fifty? In parenting? Should a mom have the
right to decide where the child lives even if the
dad wants to be more involved? And how much, say,
should the non custodial parent really have And that's a
complex question.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I feel like, for a man, if if we separate,
don't come over here trying to do all the stuff
that you ain't never did before. If you ain't never
took the baby out of town before, don't wait until
we separate, Try to take the baby out of town.
If you ain't keptain by yourself overnight, don't wait until
we separate.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
The I can get them on weekends.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm his daddy, you ain't never care this baby by
like never ever in your life, Like where.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Are you doing that? Yeah, give me back, saying you know,
I just think that you like keep that same energy,
keep that also than what another like maybe they grow up,
like the relationship didn't work out. He wasn't the best father,
but maybe something happens he's more financially stable or has
a new wife or something. Now he can be the

(25:24):
better father.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Baby steps, Yeah, baby Steps, don't take my baby out
of town. I'll push you in the throat.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Don't do And I see what you're saying, especially if
this is not your norm, like why why put this
child in? Because children become like they become the the
pawn in this tug of war. They're right in the
middle and they're like, well, I'm gonna hurt you, wife
or lady because I know you're closer to this child.

(25:52):
So I'm gonna try to take this away from you
because I want to hurt you. You know it can
it can get like that to get real mess, and
only the child at the end of the day always
gets like that.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
And everybody always says, I would never do that, and
I would never talk bad about them, and I would
never do, never do that, and more often than not,
that's exactly what they do. That's exactly what they do.
So no, we my baby home. Yeah, that's my fucker.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Well, I don't know. That is such a hard situation.
I can't imagine like that or an or whatever and
then happen to share my kids like share that time.
So I don't know. That partly makes me really sad,
Like thinking about it just makes me like that. It does.
It's tough, you know, and again this is going back

(26:43):
to divorce, so I just want to throw this in there.
There's parenting plans where you literally have to plan out everything.
Who's paying for this, who has this time, who gets
this holiday, who alternates this, who's picking up from school,
who's dropping off from school, who's allowed with holidays the
day yeah, scene, and you you basically essentially having, you know,

(27:09):
lawyers say hey, I don't know y'all, but this is
this is the this is the blueprint, so we're gonna
stick this here, stick this here. This is you know,
this is how you do fifty to fifty. It's always something,
and then you end up looking up and you can't
even it's hard to even keep up with that, because
it's not it's not realistic, you know, like I'm dealing

(27:29):
with my kids are older now and they're in college. Well,
you know, ones in college are all over the place,
so technically I don't have to say, guess what, go
see your dad. They can go on their own or not.
You know, it's like, you know, it's just it's at
this at a point where it's like you have other
people dictating, you know, your time with these children. So

(27:50):
and at the end of the day, the children are
the ones that that feel the brunt of it. It's tough. Yeah. Again,
to me, he looked like he was alright, daddy, so
he could have fulled me. Girl, I don't know what
some people got going on. Yeah, I don't either, exactly.
I don't know. It seems like the way she's going
about keeping the child might not be right, Like she's
literally keeping him from seeing his baby, and that seems

(28:12):
like what he's mostly upset about, even in the arguments
that we're seeing, you know, like he might not be
handling it the right way, but it's like it's what
we're seeing anyway is stemming from her not allowing him
to see his son.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
So and that's because he was allegedly abusive towards her.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
I guess what I'm yeah, I mean, I guess I
get it.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I did that. Yeah, no, you know, but I don't
like it, but I did it. Yeah, well damn, I
hope they figure it out. Would you let your child
travel with someone you don't trust? Haley said no to
DDG taking Halo out of LA. Is that being overprotective
or just smart? Again, we don't know what's going on.

(29:05):
It has to be something for her to be like,
I don't feel comfortable, you know, it's something. Yeah, I
feel like Mama's be knowing. My must be knowing. And
I feel like, yeah, like if she wouldn't say that
unless it was there was an issue. There is an issue,
and you low key every time he has the baby

(29:28):
in it. And again I don't know these people and
I don't follow this at all, but like every time
he has the baby on this stream. Remember, his life
is very much on streams, so he's like, hey, here's
my baby, here's my baby, and the streams are just rolling,
rolling and rolling, rolling, like you know, the the more followers,

(29:49):
the more whatever. However, you make your money off of streaming.
But it's just like, here's my baby. Here, guys, here
world see my child. I mean, we got to think
of security. We gotta think of other people that are
looking at your child and recognizing this baby. That's another
layer too.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Security is too much for me in my little life child.
I don't know how to handle that. I don't know
a lot. They putting us in a group chat because
we don't know what to do. We don't know what
to tell y'all we are this is a lot. Okay,
I don't I don't know. It's depressing me. It's unfortunate.
Let's wish some well, it's unfortunate. I wish I would. Yeah, exactly,
all right, let's move on form that because that's just

(30:27):
a movie. Okayutation I mean you're doing something I don't like. Yeah,
I don't like it. All right? Have men become the
new batties. Let's be real. Some of these men are
wearing crop tops, getting facials and giving fast and honestly
they're doing it better than us. So we got to ask,

(30:50):
have men officially become the new batties. So we're gonna
explore how traditional gender roles have flips and whether men
are stepping into the spotlight with more vanity, sass, and
emotional drama than ever before. So I'm gonna give y'all
some scenarios. A man gets flown out by a woman
and he posts that he posts the food but not her.

(31:13):
Is that giving city girl energy? How do we know?
First of all, I don't really see guys posting the food?
Do they like? Is that it they need? Posting the bottles?
You know what I'm saying. I think they'd be posted.
They be posting like at the airport, in the lounge.

(31:35):
You know, they got their way.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Of Okay, okay, there's anything wrong getting flowed up, even
if you're a man.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Ain't not'ing wrong getting flowed out if she got it
and she don't. But that was more so like a
woman was like the roles are changing now the men
are getting flown out, So like you don't think that
like changes the whole energy of like you know, men

(32:03):
versus women and like how things go.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Not for a really man, you're a woman. If she's
getting money, then she's just getting money. But if you still,
if you're still a man, it's just you'll make up
for it in other ways.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
It's just she just got fluid out. This is a gift.
It's like a gift. It's like giving a man a gift,
you know what I mean. It's not I don't see
the problem. I bet you Andre wish I'll fly his
ass out. I bet you he wished. I call him
be like, flew it out. I think we're old, Like, yeah, baby,

(32:39):
I think I'm cal in that way. What, OK, can
you come see me? Can you come meet me?

Speaker 3 (32:46):
And no, I don't know if I could do it.
I don't know, you know, she said, I don't think
I can do it. I don't think there's I'm not
going to do it. I'm not going to do it.
But I don't think. I feel like there are.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
A lot of things that are happening now that make
men come off of a little sassy. I don't think
that's one of them. I think we've got your fish
to free.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
You of it. It's because they want to get to
the things they get in the nails flushed. Yeah, that's
the gateway that they ring the dangling cross ear ring
away from me, Ashlyn. They can't real, they can't real,

(33:27):
you know what I'm saying. They get the nail polish.
They get that, they get the cross body, the man first,
the burse. What else is the starter kit? It used
to be like the skinny jeans, but that's not really
in anymore.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Now it's podcast microphone in trash talking women on that hard.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
That part so long.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, I'm a the sassy and I know they get
on the end. They like to say, Oh, y'all always
call them in. I'm a part of the problem because
I'm calling sassy.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I think some of those things are sassy, Like I
don't want to see my man doing I don't. I
don't like the nail polish. Y'all y'all like nail polish.
I don't like it. I can't and they be doing.
They're gonna all out with the designs. I mean, at
first it was like, okay, a little clear, Okay, you go.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Gett and that's you for me. If no, no, no, you
better buff it out. Don't you put a damn thing
on those cuticles. You better buff that ship out. We're
gonna walk away next case.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
They got a whole fool set, like I just can't
they under the liar no they like, yeah, like, yeah,
I don't know, I can't do it. I don't. I
don't I like meet a man who's still. But hypothetically speaking,

(34:55):
I'm saying like I need a man that's a man
like manly you like, he can't end up in here
longer than me, you know what I'm saying, Like he
need to be lating on me to get ready, Like
you can't have a ten care ten uh step routine,
skincare routine, Like that's too much, like get you some
soap and water in and let's hear let's yeah. No,

(35:18):
it's very traditional over here.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
And I did not think that I was like a
super I didn't think that I believed in ginger roles specifically,
or maybe I didn't until I got married.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
I don't know. It just works better for me. I'm
just attracted to that.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Anything that's not that, like, I'll be attracted to it
for you know, for a short amount of time, I've
had unmanly had.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I think I did. I had him with like a
little said, did you have a white gay boy?

Speaker 2 (35:44):
No, but I dated someone who like if later on
somebody said, oh, you know so and so gay, I'd
be like I could see that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I think that dated boy before in college, no way,
and every pretty. He was very pretty. We never had sex.
Oh well, bitch, why did you see? For me? I
have only like on one hand. So for me it

(36:17):
was like, okay, I mean I have a sex whatever,
you know what I'm saying. Like, but then I realized, whatever.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
First of all, if you're not trying to sleep with me,
and you can't possibly give a crap about me, but
that's my brokenness, don't pay attention to that.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
He was like very pretty boy, and yeah, I don't know,
looking back, I'm pretty sure he's good. Yeah. Well though
we're super old school and I don't want to we're
not gonna speak for the masters, but we definitely want
someone to court us, to be that that burly masculine
you know, like yeah, you know ten year olds. Going

(36:56):
back to where Porsche said, I agree with that, Like
you want X Y and Z and expect x Y
and Z from your man. You don't like the content
creators now, Like I don't want I couldn't date somebody
who's like doing the get ready with me and it's
like you see them putting on the lotion and like,
I don't know, I sing it people like I don't know,
it's just I don't like that. I don't like it.

(37:19):
I like yelthies, Like I don't why you posting selfies?
I don't like that. Why him out? Imagine your man
just carrying around the trypot. If I like the public
to Andre put out a trypod and set that bitch
up and get your I'd be like, boy, if you
don't get your It's just certain thing I just don't
find masculine, Like, don't take no selfies, don't post your outfit,

(37:43):
don't do that, don't do that. I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Do you think some stuff is going like the Internet
like we're kind of taking it a little bit too far.
I actually saw a post that this man was like,
you're not a real man if you.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Drive a coop, And I was like, oh my god.
Men can't enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
It's like you get in to the food where they're
like shaming man for like just enjoying their life.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
And I get it because again I'm a part of
the Sasine brigade, Like I will call you sassy in
a minute, but it is.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Hating a mistake. Is the coop Ferrari is the coup, the.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Point where like you feel like, dang, they Loki can't
really enjoy nothing because nothing ass.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Nothing, Okay, me saying at the end of the day,
you like what you like. You know what I'm saying.
But and a man is a man. But I just
do think some men are a little more feminine than others.
And I feel like, now it's just a little it's trending,
you know. It's like these trends with the nails and

(38:46):
the earrings and the man bags and a cute things
that some men are into these days. It's trending. It's trending. Helpfully,
the manly man trend comes back soon, That's what the true.
And I don't care. I got me a cave man
and I ain't let go. Yeah do that, I can't.

(39:07):
It's sassy yet. Five the argument, do I think that
when are more emotionally expressive now or just more dramatic?
It's a fine. But I think I think they're getting
more comfortable with speaking up, which I appreciate because we

(39:27):
are saying men speak up, have emotions, have feelings, cry,
let it out. But now it's turning into you know,
it's like it's turning into like coming out very much.
It could be aggressive, it could be sassy, it could
be all.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Of the all the people, because we say that to
them because we want them to communicate, but we keep
forgetting that they're just not great communicators to begin with.
So however, it's going to come out, it's just going
to come out. However they will come out, and then
just they don't communicate to me, They don't communicate as
effectively as women do. Not always in complete thoughts, just

(40:08):
complete emotion.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
I men but say that about women though. I think
men would be like women are just emotionally dramatic and
just act.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
We are emotionally dramatic, but we also know how to
tell your ass what we are emotionally feeling. I'm emotional,
but I'm gonna tell you exactly why. I'm tell you
what's going on with me. It's gonna come out emotional,
but you don't know what's wrong with me. By the
time I'm gonna leave here, you're gonna overstand. And men,
I just think are they're just not great communicators.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
I haven't met many who who were.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Honestly, yeah, well damn, I mean, I'm meaning I think are.
But they're older, they're older and they've been inat I mean,
because I ain't around a lot of men like that.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
But on the internet, the people's Internet, the men be
the main ones in the comments, like well you think
you all that, but you ain't. And it's like, damn,
why do you need to care? Because like, I don't
feel he need one nobody okay, loud, loud and wrong
and tell a lady what they think about her. But

(41:17):
it's a lot of men who feel comfortable going on
the people's internets and talking about women and a lot
of like derivatory things, and it's just crazy to me.
They's about stuff. Why do even care? Like a lot
of I didn't expect all the men to be chiming

(41:38):
in on the humble baddies the way they've been doing.
And I appreciate y'all for charming in, but I just
wasn't expecting y'all to go so hard sometimes, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Uh, the way that we're chiming in on how I
should spend my mother's day, as if they've ever pushed
in anything.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Out of their cat. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
I was like, oh, very and only the men having
a problem with it. But it's always like that, right,
I'll be in some comments. I've seeing them coming jarby,
like go home, Roger, what are you doing over?

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, the men's have a lot to say, you know,
and you know it comes with it, you know, opening
yourself up on the internet. But damn, the men are
very opinionated, and I feel like the internet has given
them the freedom to, I don't know, say whatever, Like
I don't know, I just can't imagine them talking like

(42:34):
that in person, Like did y'all mama rate nobody?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Does? They see you in person and probably try to
hit on you? Ask who were pictures?

Speaker 1 (42:43):
And women secretly love a pretty boy or do we
want a man's find? I want him fine, I want
him attractive? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Is that that ain't mean a pretty hitting a long
time going?

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Now? Like I said, I think he ended up being
for the other team. So I got me a man's man.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Good guy, that's true. I think I think the one
that I had was kind of he was.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, but CARDI beans with a pretty boy. Now Stefan
dicks to me, that's a pretty boy because he's why No,
because he's very Oh you just don't think pretty?

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (43:29):
I do? I think he's attractive. I don't think he's
a pretty I think he's a pretty boy because he's
very fashionable. He's very into the way he looks, like
you can tell like that is a top priority for him.
Like his hair is always perfection, outfit perfection he has,

(43:50):
you know, he's always at like fashion weeks, but like
also like taking the pictures and like it's very it's
he cares about the way he looks. He's a pretty boy,
like he's he said, too fashion, I look at it.
It's just that's a hobby and very much like oh
you head to toe, like your hair is manicured. He's
into fashion, into style, into expressing him like other things.

(44:12):
It's very much pretty boy things. So that's why I
would category him into the pretty boy category.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Just looking at him, I would. I don't know anything
about him, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that I
don't know. I think I have a sassier version of
pretty boy in my brain.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah, well yeah, he gives pretty boy to me. You
don't gotta be you don't have to have like you
don't got to be walking around like that to be pretty.
Oh no, but we definitely be a pretty boy. So who
is y'all? Who would y'all say, is a pretty boy?
What is y'all version like celebrity? So we know I'll
know who you're talking about. I mean, who celebrity? I

(44:58):
don't even I don't even no celebrity.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I know plenty of content creators that I definitely wouldn't name.
I know lots of people I can name, but I'm
not going to celebrity. Who's a pretty boy?

Speaker 1 (45:12):
No place? So define it the way. So are we entering, Yeah,
where men are the prize? Definitely not but I'm hiding.
I'm not even hitting. I think they're singing it more.

(45:35):
But I think they men should feel that they're the
prize too, just like women should. I feel like it
goes both ways. You know, come search out and win
this prize and vice versa, the best man, best woman wins.
But to say you're the prize to me, that's corning, especially,
you know, like I'm the prize, you know, like no,

(45:58):
like you're gonna have to comport me and and put
me up on this pedestal, meaning like a guy, and
then you need to work your way up to be
here with me. No, I don't think so that's that's
not that's not given what we need, right, Yeah, I
don't think that. I don't know. Well, I hope people
ain't out here saying that out loud because that's weird.

(46:18):
But I do think men are like changing the way
they see themselves in the dating game. Like I feel
like men are saying, like, no, there's so many women
out here, and there's only a little bit of you know,
that are worth it, So my value is this, and

(46:41):
y'all gotta you know, meet my standards. Like I feel
like their attitude towards dating has changed into the mindset
of where the prize, you know what I mean, So
you know, and I don't think there's necessarily something wrong
with that. It's just that it's different now. And that's
just like the state of dating in these times right now,

(47:03):
you know. I feel like I don't know, But it's
also just how you think too, because I'm always going
to tell like my single friends, like don't worry about them,
saying like there's only a little bit of men and
there's so many women, Like that's not for you to
worry about, Like that's not about it, Like your person
is your person regardless. I agree. Oh, I mean, I

(47:25):
get I get that outlook that men have taken of like,
you know, well, I'm a valuable man, Like I'm educated,
i have a good job, blah blah blah blah, I
may run in the list or whatever. I get that,
like that is something to be proud of and to
you know, hold yourself up, you know, high on. But
I do think it's I do think there is this

(47:46):
like underlying thing of like the men are the prize now.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
I feel like that's what we're saying is because right
now we're witnessing I think, for like the first time ever,
mainly because of social media, is this massive war between
men and women on the internet. It's happening by a minute.
Everybody's arguing about fifty to fifty. Everybody's arguing about what

(48:13):
you bring to the table and what you bring to
the table, and why.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Should I be with you?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
And I'm a high value man, and I'm like it
is enough. And I feel like that's why we're getting
so much like everybody's beating on it. Tito, my bike, Sorry,
my son is creeping up in here. He wanted to
be here.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
I think that's why we're.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Getting a whole lot of you know, men kind of
beating on their chest and talking about what they deserve
is because you know, it's we're at war. It looks
like we're at war on the internet, men and women
all day acting like they need each other, acting like
you know what I mean, Like, I just that's just
is that like a millennial thing.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
I don't know what the hell we're going through. I
really don't. I don't know. It is different, it is different.
It's scary out there, but you're right, I can see that.
I can see that.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I feel like that's why they why they keep saying that.
Why it's this constant discussion about how there's just more
good men out there, like not more, but like the
dating pool is small, Like if you want a good man,
it's just these people right here, and they are on
the internet screaming at you about it, right, you know
what I mean? Like so yeah, but again that'd be

(49:23):
more impressionable to your point, Everyone's like, oh, is that
hell should be thinking?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
All right, because you know, and all life. Yeah, exactly exactly.
Now everybody's a high value man.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
Oh I hate when people say that's one of my
it's too Like when they says I'm high valued, I'm like,
and then they start with money.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
It's like, that's not even what they're talking about. First
of all, it's not about it's not even about that.
What are you even talking about right now? Exactly? Well,
like I said, I hope you know, the rise of
the manly man comes back anxiety. Are you beating manly men?

(50:09):
What I am? Just as I am? And that's what
I'm attracted to. Yeah, I'm attracted to again, I'm old school.
I also I'm a high valued woman, you know what
I mean? Yeah, yeah, so, and I know what I
bring to the table, you know. So I'm attracting these

(50:29):
men that one can step up to the fact that
I'm just it becomes non transactional. So it's very fair.
I'm attracting men that have to be honest, that have
to show up, that have to be consistent. It have
to be that man, you know, Like, because it's a
lot going on over here. I'm not in a rush
to be married. I've been there, done that. I'm not

(50:51):
in a rush to have kids. I have four. They
have the very active father. So like, what I bringing
to the table is like what you see is what
you get, and it also filters out the ones who
are weak. You know, you can't lie to me. You
shouldn't lie to me. Why do you need a light
to me? You know, you have to be ready for this.
I'm a lot of women, and I bring a lot

(51:12):
to the table.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
So that's what I'm attracting over here.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
It is you know, it has to be the right
kind of man to be like, not be intimidated by that.
I'm done and or let's just say my ex husband
like you know, the men that are approached me are
very much like Okay, all right, I see what's up?
All right? Let me look, this is a challenge. Let
me let me step my game up, because you know

(51:41):
this is you you some house lex and yes I
am amen. Way, I'm trying to be with you all today.
What are you all?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
What?

Speaker 1 (51:49):
What's what you eat? I'm on a cleanse. The line
is clear, the full moll. You know we just we
we we.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Hear Oh my girl say I but I'm that girl
and what you mean?

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah? Yeah, you know this is real. The weak ones,
the weak ones were filtering themselves out every time
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