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July 7, 2025 39 mins

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Jackass crew’s wild stunt with Jamie Foxx and Tetairoa McMillan admitting he doesn’t watch football. The duo discusses whether a lack of film study and game viewing could impact his ability to perform at a high level in the NFL.

 

48:24 - Jamie Foxx vs Jackass Crew

56:52 - Justin Jefferson rides an ATV
1:09:55 - Tetairoa McMillian doesn’t watch football

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
According to reports, a phallic a phallic layser corner sparked
a heated dispute at Jamie Fox's birthday dinner. According to TMZ,
during the celebration at mister Childs and Beverly Hill, someone
from the VIP rented area by Jackass production company Penus

(00:24):
House Productions projecting a penis shaped laser at Jamie's table,
upsetting him, especially since his kids were present. Jamie went
upstairs to confront the group, leading to an altercation. Sources
say Jackass forever stunt man Jasper Dolphin allegedly threw a

(00:45):
glass at Jamie, cutting him near his mouthe. Jamie, bleeding exclaimed,
it's my birthday? What's wrong with you? Before leaving against stitches.
People played too much? They played entirely too much.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Why why but you see o Joe? Now?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Somebody had to say, because how did you know Jamie
FOXX was having a birthday part? I mean, who's coming
there with a production?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
They can't they went there with that? So to do that?
Mm hmm. So is is he okay? This wasn't this?
I'm assuming this wasn't a stunt or nothing like that.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
You say it with somebody that man he threw as
he threw a glass and hit him.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
In his mouth and bust didn't cut him. Heave the
okay man, I normally that normally that starts a world rumble.
You know, I don't. I don't see someone throwing something that.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I mean that Jamie Jami ain't really trying to squabble
like that, but they know who to do that to.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Normally, somebody goes to Mr. Child's.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
They ain't try. They ain't trying to bang. Okay, they
ain't trying. There going to have a good time. They
with their family, they with some loved ones. They something
they want to They want to get a good meal.
People play too much, man, y'all need to stop playing.
Everybody ain't bought them pranks. I see people in the mall.
You know they going to lead one side. If that's
your man, that's your and people's wrong, y'all a prince.

(02:14):
Everybody don't play like y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
This is not a prank.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah he he he got he got a phallic shape
laser pointing at Jamie.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Okay, oh and okay, okay, okay, I see I see
you going to Jamie got upset and confronted him about
doing the bullshit.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay, I got you.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
He got kids at the table because they probably got
they probably got something special coming out of something, because
you know they be doing pranks like that.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
But I'm not the one. I'm not. I'm not, I
am not. I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
I don't play like that on show. I don't play
like that. Use the actually they want. They wanted to
pump me. Uh At TV, my daughter Kayle said, Nah,
Dad ain't the one.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
No, I don't play like that. I don't.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
I don't play with people I don't know. Don't play
with me. You don't know me like that. I don't
play with you. I don't play people that know me.
I'm very matter of fact. I'm from point A, I
from front B all that Kiki, me and you joking
back and forth. That is not the shining sharp that

(03:34):
I am. I am not.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Wait, so you don't joking with me, You're not. Damn Yeah,
That's what I'm saying. And people expect this is IM
with them outside of me.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Oh no, okay, okay, okay, okay, I thought you.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I thought it was just an act.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I was no, no, no, I don't. I don't listen.
I'm very respectful. Hey, how you doing? I always any
time I meet somebody ash always.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Why you do that? Hell, I'm shoting shark.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yep, I'm not arrogant enough to believe that everybody knows
who I am. Don't play just hey, going about your business.
Let me go about my business. Because one look here,
Oh we did. We told mister Child's up. Mister Child's
have been closed for rental lyady testing up. I guarantee

(04:33):
you that's not I'll get you. I bet you that
wouldn't have made the Netflix special. If they were shooting
some kind of prank bull job for a movie, I
bet you that wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Have made it.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
And like I said, that's that's why I stayed to myself. Hey,
I sneak in, I sneak out. I go in there
my like seven point thirty. I'm trying to get in
and get out. I'm out of there. I don't do
a whole lot of big crowds and stuff. Now, hey man,
we got this, No, nope, just let me go ahead
and let me go ahead.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
And right right, mm hmmm. People just play too much.
I don't what is this?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
You know what happened on your the internet caused this
because everybody, everybody's trying to capture through.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Right especially, that's where're we're in right now. We're in
the content.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
That's the problem. I just and everybody want to get content.
And you saw that guy, that guy got shot in
them all he got putting that twenty two on him,
talk about oh you shot?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
But yeah, stop playing with people, y'all.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Stop running on people and throwing stuff on people in
these stores and stuff and doing all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Man, y'all too grown for that, you know. Yes, Now,
I was gonna say, it's a means of income.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's a different way of it's a different way of revenue,
a different way of income, and it's it's the times
we're in now. You know, people understand that you can
make money based on these pranks, and.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
You get the hell beat out you. How much did
that work? Shoot? Depending on how much, depending on if
you go viral what it could be a pretty any too.
Now now think about it, you want to enjoy it?
Done of it?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Udo confirms you cannot stack plus cards on top of another. So,
in other words, you cannot officially put draw two on
a draw too. I told y'all, y'all been making up rules.
Y'all won't eat rule. Y'all want to even read the rules.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
So if you can't, So if you throw down a
draw too and I'm supposed to draw two, I can't
hit you with a draw too before.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I draw the two out.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
No, I mean I never played that way anyway, because
if you if you drop down a draw too, I
draw my two and and move and it can continue
to the next person whoever's after me.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Right, I've always played like that, now, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Or if we play, if we playing like just you
and I play it and I put draw two down
on you and you draw too, I can't put another
draw too down there. Now I'm gonna give me. I'm
gonna get me some car to have a draw fifty.
I'm gonna drop that draw fifty.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Hey, you know, you know it's funny.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I mean, most most of the people in the chat,
depending on how long they've been following me.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I played uno, you know, with with with with with
my people on our dates.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, you know, when the bill comes, you know, we
played to decide who pays who pays best, you know,
best best game out of three we play old school
rules and the new car, the new Wuno cards you buy.
I don't like the fact that it comes with all
these new cars and all these new ways to.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Play the game.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I throw those out where you can write in, we
can write in something new, and maybe I throw all
that out. I want to play the original Huno game
that I was playing when I was growing up. I'm
not playing all that new stuff they be talking about today.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Look at y'all be playing the hood birds Udo. Hey
we go. We're gonna take it back.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
We're gonna take it back to the the way the
game was intended to be played, which is we did
that with everything. We're gon we're gonna we're gonna find
a loophole to make it specific to us being stage.
Be it a monopoly god, you know, hey, you cool.

(08:15):
Don't worry about you laying on my property.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
You can't. It's not supposed to be like that.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
If somebody lands on your property, you got to charge
you gotta tax. But hey, it is what it is.
Justin Jefferson is going viral. Oh Joe, He's riding an
a t V. And of course fans are afraid that
Jennah could get injured doing this. Remember Big Ben Roethlisberger
do we have it.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
What no helmet and we don't want no helmets and
no ATVs man.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Okay, now as Ben Roethlisberger do we wish he had
a helmet on?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
That's that we ain't got nothing to do with man.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
See, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
See after what makes them great is what's making us
stallible because we don't believe it's gonna happen to us.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Well, yes, it's not believing. I mean it could happen.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
But you don't see what you saying.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
You said, don't nobody wear no a TV wearing a helmet.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Let me finish, Let me talk. Let me talk.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I'm from im from I'm from Miami, right, Yes, I'm
from Miami. What do we do here in Miami? We
ride ATV's in the city. I've been riding them all
my life, Martin. Let me let me tell you when
I do them now, I don't do it all the time.
When it was Christmas time, we're fifty d Martin Luther
King Junian Parade were fifty d on Yamaha Bante's. I
ride dirt bikes. I've been doing it all my life.

(09:36):
I didn't we don't know. I ain't never wet on heml's,
but I ride careful. I'm very safe. All I see
is all I see is him sitting there doing donuts
and some saying all by hisself. I mean, ain't nothing
gonna happen right there? You know, not in that said it.
But I understand what you mean. No, I understand what
you mean.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
You know what you uh you said? I mean, I
remember when Lamar tripped over jet skis. What's not gonna happen?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Though?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Right? How are you troubled on jet skis?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Who teeing off dress skis? He did?

Speaker 1 (10:09):
You know what they call you know what they call
people that ride motorcycles and a TV?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
What organ donors? Oh?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Listen, I ride safe. I've been riding safe. I ain't
never had no accidents.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
See it's not you, Ojo, right, it's the cars. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
They don't anticipate how fast you're actually going and going,
and they don't give a damn about you.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Actually, yeah they don't. But you always learn, you know
what I always learned when I when I do ride on,
I ride offensively and defensively. I'm not riding for me
when I'm on a dirt mike or Yamaha banti I'm
not riding for me. I'm playing scenarios out in my
head as I'm going ahead. If that makes sense, it

(10:51):
might not make sense to you. A certain things, if
certain things happen, If certain things happen, I want to
be able to process the information fast enough to be
able to adjust.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
I don't know if you can do that.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
O yo, right, I mean listen, uncle, I mean I
did well.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
I don't do it. I don't riding.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
I'm im too old on that boy and the noise,
the engine, the engine noise get on my nerve. You know,
you get old. You don't want to hear that loud
that loud crap no more.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I mean, I'm surprised.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I would be shocked if the Vikings don't call him.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
He was doing doing us in some dirt.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I got one hundred and forty million dollars tied up
in you. A lot of times they put that that's
the same thing when people play basketball. Hey man, I'm
just going out here getting a run. And then when
you blow your knee out, then what OYO? When guys
were skiing, I would ski used to be a big thing.
Guys blow their knees out, then what you can't. The
thing is ojo is that athlete. We don't think things

(11:50):
that happen to common people because we're doing what regular
people don't do, right, So by doing what other people
don't do, we don't think the things that happened to them.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Can happen to us. So so why you think so?
Now ask your question. I don't like that. I think
they should be able to enjoy themselves. It's the off season.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I think players should be able to do the things
they like to do before they made it. I'm sure
he was riding full willers before.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
I'm sure Lamar.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Jackson was righting jees Ski's before he made it.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I think they should be able to enjoy themselves.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
So what about the guy? So what about the gang members?
What about the guy that was robbing people, that was
doing that before they made it? They should still be
able to do that, right Come on, man, that's I'm
just using your I'm using your logic. You saying a
person should be able to.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Do said the athletes when they're in the off season.
They should be able to enjoy themselves.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay, so he should be able to do what he
should be able to do what he wants to do
in the off season. Correct, Yes, okay, No, I'm talking
about the players, not what you said.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'm saying there are players that did things.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
What about all these Georgia players that's getting the rest
that get busted for speedy one thirty seven one seventeen.
There's nothing wrong with that because it's the off season
and they've probably been driving like this their whole life.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Correct, you know that that they're they're they're rules that
you shouldn't that rules you're supposed to follow. You're not
supposed to be speeding.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
That's part of the rules, oh Joe. Part of rules
is said, you're not supposed.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
To be said, you can't ride an a TV. Hold on,
you should be able to ride an a TV in
the off season.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
What about what a helmet? What? What about what a helmet?
You don't have to ride it?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
You don't have you know, there are certain places you
don't have to have a hammetal right, Miami being one
of them. Wherever he is in the middle of nowhere where.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
There's nobody around, going in circles. But what about taking precautions?
Oh Joe, you do? I mean, what about taking precautions? Yeah? Okay, Now,
I like I like it.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I understand where you're coming from. But no, that's just
that's just being that's the nick picking. Hey, listen, something
can happen to you when you walk out your dough
No matter what, something happened to you, you could be
driving in your car.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
You're a bigger rick.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
To ask you a question, are you more at to
get into an accident riding one hundred and fifteen or
driving sixty five?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
What are the probabilities? Right? No, right, what happened? Okay,
listen what you just said.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Going one hundred and fifteen miles an hour a ride
sixty five? What's the probability one hundred and fifteen. The
probability is you might get hurt going one hundred and fifteen,
but going in a circle.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Slow as hell, there's no chance happening. There's no chance
that thing would roll over. There's no chance.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Absolutely absolutely not not in dirt. No, the wheels would
have to get caught on something.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Not on dirt.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
It's in ATV.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
All ATV means all terrain vehicle. That doesn't mean anything.
O Joe, Stop, you're on dirt. You're on saying.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I'm telling you that somebody who's been riding for thirty
plus years. All they doing is going in the cerf
Ain't nothing finna happen? Come on now, I understand what
you're talking about, but come on, non.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
According to government website, over one hundred thousand people visit
emergency rooms annually due to ATV accidents. Approximately three to
four hundred die in ATV accidents per year.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
So nothing happen. Hold on, you.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Should see you should see what those people doing that's dying.
You should see what they do.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Said there was nothing can happen on the ATV.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
We're talking about the video for context. He's going in
a donut in a circle.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Nothing's gonna happening.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
So let me ask you a question. Going to the donut?
Has a car ever turned over? Going to the donut?
What did we talking about? We're talking I know somebody,
I know somebody that had an at I know somebody.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
What do we talk about?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Hey, hey, you want to tell him what you were
your ATV accident? Ask going going five miles an hour?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (15:49):
T ash though, ask them not to ride? No ATVs?
You having a ash.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Fare or flipped over, broke a femur, fractured the rib,
broken wrists?

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa what? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Serious?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
What she ran into she flip run though, she wrote,
she flipped over on herself.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Oh she as she ain't never rode before.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Huh huh, yeah, a whole lot act brou Ash grew
up on a farm.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I'm talking about arrant. No, no, let me get it.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Take the back of red ten thousand acres by fifteen
thousand acre reds. She's like, no, you call it a farm.
Ash mob had how many what five thousand ahead of cattle?
Ten thousand a head of cattle? Is that a big
enough ranch for.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Oh ten thousand?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, Jesus now, Ash, But look as your ass don't
really count. I don't like to put her in anything
because Ash clubsy right, she threw her back out getting
up out of a chair. It's eighty five degrees and
she got pneumonia. So Ashes is an outlier. So for

(17:10):
anything that could probably happen. So you know what, Oh,
I'm sorry I brought Ash.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
You into this. As don't count, but these other people
do count. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Oh man, that was that was a good one. But man,
I just I just couldn't. I just couldn't.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I quit.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Hey, Oh, I used to love basketball man, Yeah, I
love basketball. Man, I gave I got this money.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Man, I ain't you got you got your money, just
and you stop doing what you love.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
I know I didn't love it, no, because basketball wasn't gonaay,
wasn't gonna keep a roof over Mary Porterhead.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
It wasn't gonna take care of the kids.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Now, you tell me the NBA players that don't be
good buck, they're playing football, playing football.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, they still play basketball and all season.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
And you know what their crowd, Oh cho can I finish?

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yes? You know a basketball players also doing off season.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
They get their ass on ATVs, they get on jet skis,
they go have fun on yachts, they travel, they.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Do all the same. They do all those things.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Now, your mindsets a little bit different, and it always
has been because destructure and discipline and you always remembering
what pays the bills. Yeah, for sure, you know, everybody
done things like that. That's why in certain situations, especially
like this, you're very passionate because if it was you
in that position, I'm not doing that. I'm not taking
that chance.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
But you know, Michael Jordan, he actually he used to
have a motorcycle club. He had a motorcycle he had.
He used to race, well, he had a team, a
motorcycle tea yeah, yeah, yeah, and he used to ride hard.
He had a cross rocket, so I mean he was
zipping through this.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
But he also had that he was could play pick
up basketball because he had it written to do his
contract for the Love of the game clause so he
could play pick up basketball. Not at that time, not
a whole lot of guys had it, mm hmm. But
I just look, if he gonna ride it, I would
just put a helmet on. I would be I would

(19:17):
rather be safe than sorry. Yes, I just rather be
safe to sorry. That's why I got off that.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
You know, you and I was talking about road bikes.
I always rode a helmet.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Then I just man, every time I turn around, somebody
that done got their ass read over and didn't nobody
stopped to help them.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Bare Let me get my ass off this bike.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Ja. You remember Jay Williams, the dude yeah lost his
career motorcycle. Yeah, the dude the number two pick in
the draft on yo oh okay, ESPN, yep, motorcycle.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
That's the team.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Our teammate got killed, Roderick Thomas, he got killed on
the motorcycle. I just love my grandfather. They played that,
and so once uh once uh, I got big enough,
old enough.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
He's a boy. They call it Assphalt is your ass,
It is your fault. Hey. One thing, I don't want one.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I never want one, right, I can honestly say I've
never ever wanted a.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Motorcycle.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah I didn't didn I didn't do motorcycles. But man
that down here, yeh, dirt bikes and the four wheelers
and you know, we ride in the middle of the street.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
It just oh yeah, they got New York in Miami,
New York, phillyp Miami.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
When it comes to dirt bikes, yeah and bad I see.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
I saw me out there and they had It's like
that every day. Once in a while you catch them
in Atlanta and they be about Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Atlanta too.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, they got they got a motorcycle club. Know that.
I ain't that.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, and they go and they go huh. And the
thing is and you need it because all that noise
and then you could just you could control the traffic
because once you get behind him, you can't go nowhere, no,
because they take it up all lanes of the role.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
And it's like forty of them.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
But I think that's the you know, that's that's the
best way to ride is to you know, to make
sure you protect yourself. But nah, hell now everything a
wide receiver? How you say that name? Keller McMillan, Oh,
Oh Joe says he doesn't watch football and doesn't watch love,

(21:43):
doesn't like watching game film. I don't like watching game
film either. I don't ever watch it by myself because
we go over film as a receiver group.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Oh Joe, if it's a big deal or no, you know,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I don't think it's a big deal because, oh lord,
you asked me a question, right, yeah, okay, you asked
me it's a big deal. I don't think it's a
big deal. What does he do once you turn the
film on him? Specifically from an individual standpoint.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
So watching film is not a big deal? Answer what
I just said.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
When you turn the film on and it's time for
him to play, what does he do on the field
regards to him not watching film?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Does he show up and play? Is he productive at
what he does?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I'm not asking you.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
I know a guy had that same thing, JaMarcus Russell.
How did that work out for him?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
I don't know. I don't know about JaMarcus Russ.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
You do know about JaMarcus Russell, my first number one
overall pick.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
We not talk about JaMarcus Roe.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
We talk about him this, Oh Joe, So this man
they got to watch no film.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
You ain't gotta watch film. You asked me, is it
a big deal? I said no, it's not a big deal.
If you produce, when you get your ass.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
On the field.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
How you gonna get mad at my goddamn answer?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Because you're saying stuff, Oh Joe, you saying watching film
for a receiver is not a big deal.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
He says he doesn't watch it by himself, but he
watches it collectively as a group.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
You know, in order to be great, you gotta watch
it on your own. So just watch it, just so,
just watch So just watching it as a group at
the team thing, that's good enough.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
I'm just why I wouldn't make some of your listen.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
That's him. I know what I did, O Joe. That's
why we're asking you. You were the pro bowler. You're
saying it's not a big deal.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Can I can I hold on? Hold on, let me
let me mansk you something real quick. So watching the
film by yourself. Right, Yes, stay with me real quick,
stay with Yes, you know.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
What you're looking at?

Speaker 3 (23:40):
You looking at DV. He's looking at defense.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Outside do they did it free technique? The Prince Belle
or what do they do outside? Inside?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yes, that's watch Yes, all that good stuff. Now that's
that's not me and you on the same page.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Right.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Let's say he doesn't watch it as an individual, but
he watches at a group. He watches it as a
once he gets to the next level and he gets
out of and does what he's supposed to do without
watching the individually. Is it still a bad thing. He's
still productive, It's still a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I don't believe he personally.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Oh you don't think he can get it done because
he doesn't watch.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Film by him? No, no, no, no no. There been
guys that watched film and can't get it done.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I just in or.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I'm not saying that. But what I'm saying. But I'm
saying is the intricacies of what you're watching. That guy
does a certain down in distance because everybody so. Because
I've got to watch a guy that he might play
such and such different than what he plays me, I
need to know it down in distance there, you're the
feel how that guy is gonna play because he's gonna

(24:43):
play a Is he gonna play the sticks? If he
pressed bail? Does he you know if he's clueing? I
need to know all that. If I'm not watching take
it's just hard. It's just hard for me to believe.
Now he could he could be that immensely talented that say,
you know what, I'm just gonna show up.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
I haven't heard any receiver that's worth anything that says, nah,
you know, I'm good because you got to do it
on your own.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, you have to.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
And you know, when I think about it now, I'm
I'm I'm only I'm only speaking because when he said
he says, he didn't say he didn't watch it at all.
He says he watched it as a group. Now that's
one thing, not him not doing it individually. I mean
that that that's on him. But he was very productive
in what he did. And when you turn on the film, he.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Said, I don't ever need to watch it by myself.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
He this is what he's saying. Yeah, I don't like
watching film either.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I don't ever need to watch film by myself because
we go over at film as a receiver group group collectively.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, I see, Yeah, that's that's that's that's that's different.
My my reason for watching film individually is I had
no choice. Despite the entertainment, the jokes, in the laugh
and the celebrations, I was a student of the game.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I studied film just like quarterback. You wanted to be good,
o Joe. You wanted to be great.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Oh great, okay, and.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
You realize that's what it took in order to be great.
You realized that just your god given ability wasn't gonna
beat en up. Now, that might have gotten you to
that point, what's gonna take me to the next level?

Speaker 2 (26:17):
With every other receiver is just as talented as I. Yes, sir,
you're right, that's what. But Ojo a better point.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Everything that's thought doesn't need to be said out loud.
Some things you just keep to yourself. I want you
to tell me what you take them Thirty two NFL
teams thinking mm hm, you're right.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
That's what I don't get, Ojoe.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I don't get because you know how teams feel. Remember
what they put If it wasn't a big deal, why
did they put that clause.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
In and and and Kyler about gaming.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Why would you why would you ever say this publicly
when you're about to get Oh yo, somebody's about to
get you going on the job, build a view, and
you tell the people I don't really like coming on time.
Why would you ever tell the people that's interviewing you
for a job that get the job first first, Yeah,
and then let them figure out that you don't like

(27:17):
to bring your ass to work on time.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, I'm not gonna tell you. Hey, yeah, you're right.
But a one thing. One thing by young Bull.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
You know they are they interviewing him for a reason.
They talking to him for a reason. If you watch him,
if you watch him on film, you're watching on tape. Oh,
he gonna get drafted somewhere.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Now.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
The issues and some of the things he already said, Oh,
they're gonna fix that.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
They didn't.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
No problem, because once you get drafted, wherever you go,
they're going to teach you and and let you know,
in order to be great, in order to make this
fifty three man roster, you're going to have to be
watching film.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
You're gonna have to because it's.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
A whole different ball game of one percenters once you
do make it. The things you were able to get
away with in college, you wouldn't be able to get
away with it.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
At the next level.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
You won't be able to. And one of the edges
that you need is up here, upstairs.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yes, up here, because you need to know what the
dB is thinking about doing before he does.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah. So, oh, bro, I know this down the distance.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I don't seen you too many times, and I know
it's coming this technique. Yeah, I already know what you're
gonna do. This is what you always do.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
And there are articles being circulated now that now predict
him to fall in the draft because of this interview
and fifteen seconds of comments, Oh Jo wow, oh Joe,
you three we three weeks through the draft is what
little less than a little less than a month away?

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Right o Cho, Why would you ever say this?

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, listen, I don't know. It's something I would have
kept it myself. Yes, I obviously I wouldn't say anything
like that. But I'm also someone that loves loves watching film.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
I just love it. I love watching DB's I love
watching the safety and seeing what they're doing based on
down and this, And so I was I had no choice.
I talked too much shit not to watch film. I
got to know what's coming before come. I got to
That's the edge I needed. I wasn't physically imposing, you know.
So my one edge was I got to be able

(29:13):
to beat you up here before I beat you anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I got to be able to beat you up here.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
And I'm not even viewed as one of those one
of those type of players that was a student of
the game. I'm viewed as just entertainment and fun. Man,
you understand the work I had to put it throughout
the week to be able to pull off the stuff
I was pulling off. The guys are too good, and
stop playing.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
The guys are too good, O Joe, way too the
guys are too because you got to And I want
to tell people everybody, at some point in time was
an All State, All Conference, All American, all this.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
All that.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
What's going to set you apart? Now? I'm just saying,
O Joe, just because you were all this all that, yeah,
that doesn't mean you're going to be great in the NFL.
Just because you study film doesn't mean you're gonna be
great in the NFL. But I needed every you need
every advantage that you possibly can get every because this
is a game of inches. It you being open like

(30:09):
you was open to college, That is ain't gonna.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Happen unless it's a buster coverage.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yes, yes, so this notion that you know what a
I'm so gifted and you know what, A lot of
the dbs that you probably went against, they might not
be playing on Sunday on Sunday. Yeah, but the guys
you're about to go against, all of them gonna play
on Sunday, every lands one of them.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
I'm just the firm believer, oh Joe especially, And you
know how this let me ask your question those thirty
three general managers, those head coaches. I want you to
tell the people at home what you think they thinking.
Do they forget what me and you think it's a
big deal?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Do you think.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
General managers and coaches do you think they think it's
a big deal?

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, you know they think it's a big deal because
they want you to do everything right. They want you
to do everything right, all the thing necessary as far
as preparation and being ready not just for game day
but just for practice.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
How well do you not how well do you know
your opponent.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
There's only one way to do that, that's through film study.
But again, you know what happened. I think he's gonna
be a gym. Wherever you fall to, this is gonna
be a gym. And if anything, if he does fall
in the draft or maybe something like this, if he
does fall in the draft, that might be a team.
I hope he falls us because we can use him.

(31:35):
But you know, at the end of the day, it's
something I wouldn't have said. It's something you wouldn't have said.
You learn, you're living to learn. And he'll become a
little bit more media savvy with the way he conduct
himself when it comes to answering questions.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
I don't get why you would ever put something that
was gonna in every stretch of the imagination that's like
a defensive office line and saying I don't like lifting weights.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
How fool them? These kids just like say anything.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
And what has happened is that in today's society, Oh,
people want to be themselves and then get paid on
somebody else's job.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
How that work? On't Joe?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
You hear people all the time why I can't be
me because that's not your job. You not paying you
when you work for your own self. Me if I
want to show up late, oh show you. I could
own the company. But how's that gonna look?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Right?

Speaker 1 (32:37):
You have to set the example. I have a level
of expectation.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Be on time.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
I don't have a whole lot of rules. Just be
on time. That's really the only rule that I have.
Oh I got a great one too. Let me think
about this now, if I'm not mistaken. At the Patrick
Mahomes second year, whether the second year you said he
didn't watch film, No great, He said that he didn't
understand what he was looking at.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
What he's looking at?

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Okay, yeah, he wait, that's the same goddamn thing. You
watch it but don't understand what the hell you watch it?
But you still going out there cutting the food.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
It wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't until like, because he
was at first year, he didn't start. It wasn't until
he got with somebody that understood and says, okay, look
at this, Yeah, this is this is gonna be your keys.
Because a lot of times, oh yo, I mean I
went to an HBCU, I ain't no a we ain't
watch no film. I ain't gona even lie right, no

(33:32):
film because in black college. That's why if you get
a corner out of Black college. Hen that's why they
used to go to black colleg and get him. Because
what they couldn't play Man coverage. It wasn't no cover too,
it wasn't none of that stuff. It was man, lock up,
Oh Man lock up. Yeah, yes, so me I would
beat man coverage. So oh you they go out there

(33:54):
run his own Hell, I'm booking it. No no, son, no,
oh no son stop.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Oh man, he ain't got me. That's funny.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Then I started under now all of a sudden, no cho.
I was like, oh man, I like this, Oh this
is cheetie. You give me the answer to the test.
I know you're gonna run a couple of coverages that
you haven't shown me.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
But for the most part, you gonna be true to
who you are always.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
I mean, every once in a while, I was just
watching a deer on on I g with eating or
with eating.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
A rabbit a deer, Yeah, deers don't even eat rabbits.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Or wait, every once in a while he showed you
something you hadn't seen before, So I'm saying the curvery
once in a while, Lord, Joe, you're gonna show me
a coverage I ain't seen before.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Hey, that might have been Ai.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
You was watching too, now that was.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Hey, Hey, animal get hungry enough, just like you. You
get hungry enough. You eat whatever.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
I eat whatever when I'm not hungry.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
But go ahead, we already know you eat whatever. Yeah,
but I don't.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I just said chat. It's just me.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
I just don't understand why you would ever say that publicly.
Everything that you think people can think of, A thought
is not a crime. A thought is not anything bad.
It's the act, it's the once you say it. Why
would you say that publicly? And you're less than a
month away from the draft. So what do you think
the people that's drafting you and look at to put

(35:31):
millions of dollars in your pocket?

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Man, mm hmmm, I can't. That's just like, hey, there's
some thought sho. There's some people that's naturally gifted that
you didn't have to study for tests and they were
good at it. Yeah, but guess what them numbers of
them words on the page ain't moving mm hmm. When

(36:00):
them guys try to put their hand around your neck
and choke you, choke your hands out.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Now you know.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Now you know he's gonna get tested now you because
first of all, her first round pick. We gotta test
you regardless. Oh yeah, because I got to see what's
all the hype about. I need to see why you
why you're a first round pick. I need to see absolutely,
I got to see whatever you come in with your resume, heisman, belitting,
the car Thorpe, the Girsky Outland. I don't know what

(36:30):
you want, but if you got one of them awards,
if you a first round pick, you a high draft pick,
let me see what they talk about. Man, or we're
gonna put you to the test on shoe. You know
that every time we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Put you to especially when everybody come together. Is it
mini camp no.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Ot as ot as Yeah, yeah, o t a because
you know they're gonna have the draft, so probably like
the first week in May.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, you got rook camp might be just all rookies.
It might just be a rookie minnie. Ya.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
It's always rookie rookie camp first.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
You know that rookie in first year players, not the
you know, not the high draft pick, but the guys
that you know, guys that were on the practice squad,
because you know, there are a couple of guys that
were on the practice squad little they get a whole
lot of playing time. Those would be the guys that
are required to be in all the draft picks, the
undrafted free agents that they brought in.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
They're gonna bring some undrafted players.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Then they take a look at them and see what
they got going on and see if they could potentially
be kilt bodies or could possibly make a squad.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Right. Uh, but I don't know why he said that. Bro.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah damn, but Bro, I wish you the best. I
can't do nothing but wish you the best. If if
that's your EMO and it's gotten you.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
That far, hey listen, it's gotten it this far. It's
gonna change though. You'll understand that. They'll explain that to him,
and don't. I don't think it would really. I don't
think it were hurting draft stock. Because if they want him, baddie,
if they want him bad enough and there's a spot
for him based on what they've seen on film during
his collegiate career, they get him in there and fix

(37:59):
the situation. Now, if you're come in here, you're not
gonna You're not gonna do this. This is what you're
not gonna do when you come here.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Your best players are your hardest workers. That's why.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
That's when you get a Michael Jordan, you get a Kobe,
you get a Lebron, you get a Brady, you get
a Peyton Manning, you get an Adrian Peterson, you get
a Ray Lewis, you get that's what you get. You
get a Jamar Chase, That's what you get. Guys that
are immensely talented, work extremely hard, go to extra mile

(38:31):
to be great because it's just not good enough. I
don't want to be good. I want to be great.
I'm trying to be transcendent and historically great because when
I'm done, I want you to talk about me. When
I'm done, I want you to say, this guy, you
know what, this guy reminds me of. You remind me
of Jamar Chase. This guy remind me of Ray Lewis.

(38:54):
This guy reminds me of Lawrence Taylor or Reggie White
or Tom Brady or.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
That's what you won't let me say.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Some guys, hey, I played in NFL five six seven years,
I played ten years ago. Made me a nice salary.
Goya Woo I did what I want to do. It
all depends on the individual. What do you want your
legacy to be at a given sport? I mean some people,
oh Jo, you know some people just like anything. Some
people find hey being on the job collecting the check.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Hey, I'm gonna work in the same position. I don't
want to move up because more responsibility come when.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
You move up.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
O Joe, I like this right here. I come in,
put my eight nine hours in, go home. Yeah no,
hell nah.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Mm hmm. They me
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