Katt Williams Part 2

Katt Williams pays homage to Ice Cube, giving him the flowers Katt feels he's deserved for a long time. The conversation turns philanthropic as Kat discusses giving back and helping up-and-coming comedians financially after successful shows. Katt delves into personal aspects, explaining why he's never been married and addressing the situations involving Taraji P. Henson, Nick Cannon, Jonathan Majors, and Kanye West. Katt reflects on the comedy landscape of a bygone era, shedding light on the dynamics within the Kings of Comedy and their negative sentiments toward Bernie Mac. This episode is a rollercoaster of humor and unfiltered truths showcasing Katt Williams in a light that goes beyond the stage.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How did you develop money Might and get it? I
mean that, I mean everybody talked me money Might is
how how did you come up with that and said,
you know what, this is how you should dress, this
is how you should talk, this is how you should look,
this is the kind of whillpie you ride, this is
how we should talk.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
So if you'll remember that that was my first movie,
just understand that what I did, then I've done with
every single role, whether it was an Emmy winning role
or whether it wasn't, whether I was playing somebody homeless,
whether I was playing a dirty vagabond on Atlanta, whether
it was an eccentric guy, and first Sunday, regardless of

(00:42):
what the role is, the first thing I do is
erase me from it. Okay, So anything that I would
naturally do, that's what I'm not gonna do because I'm
playing a different Cari, Right. So I then create this
person based upon real life circumstances, so I don't have
to wonder what a pimp thinks, cause I've been in

(01:04):
that position for a little while. I also worked manual
labor for some time in my life, so I don't
have a problem paying somebody that works and I don't
have a problem uh being a go getter, cause I'm
a go getter. So I bring whatever I can to
these characters. I was able to the first week that

(01:25):
I got the script. There was a a pimp guy
that used to be a pimp, but he wasn't anymore.
He was a rapper now and his name was Mac Minister,
and he had been a pimp and was getting to
be a rapper. And I had never done a movie before.
I was a stand up and I'm getting ready to
do the movie, And so I was able to craft

(01:49):
what a real pimp was like, what was too much?
I didn't wanna be stereotypical r I. I I did
the research. I saw how many times people played pimps,
and they were all ways. It was always something weird
about him, I guess, because it's a weird job, you
know what I mean. And I wanted somebody that didn't
seem like none of that, that he really thought it

(02:10):
was a business and treated it like that. And so
you know, those adding those levels to acting is what
all actors do. If they're not Steve or Cedric or Ricky,
Like you're trying to create a character, you don't you
can't just be phason in every movie, like you're just
gonna take your shirt off on every movie. Like, why

(02:32):
does it say that in your script?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Man, let big worm leave, let him breathe.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Cat, big let let big worm breeds call him out?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Now, you having an unnatural allegiance to losers. It's not
like you.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
No, I ain't got no allegiance to the man.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
But you gotta admit the role that he played, big work,
I mean big permit, pridey.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Now you gotta get him credit for the role. Now,
come on, let.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Me ask you a question. Yes, if what you're saying
is correct, why wasn't here next Friday or Friday after next?
I mean it hit role, I mean it wasn't good.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Sorry, there was a lot of people that didn't that
appeared in the first one that weren't in the second one.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Cat, I'm just telling you why. I'm sorry. I'm sorry
that it's a there's a news flash that there are
reasons for things in the business. Yes, oh okay, well
what would you? Why would you? Why did you bitch?
D lo? He had two points? What are you talking about?
Shut up? But I like him. Nobody cares about that.

(03:39):
That's not what we're talking about. These are business conversations
that deal with businessmen right right, When you're good at something,
you should regress. The guys that are not as good,
they should fall down by the wayside. That's natrue.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
There were they so you believe if your talent doesn't
support it, you should fall by the wayside. And the
guys that have talent and to get elevated, they should move.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
No, that's what water says. That's what the universe say.
The universe say the levels. No, I do not, I
say am I I'm nobody, but I'm working every day
as if I think that's what should happen, is how
it should be. And I'm choosing comedians that also write
and work hard and don't steal other people's material. And

(04:25):
I'm making sure that they all make three hundred thousand
dollars a season, and I'm making sure that they're not
ever signed to me or my conglomerant, and that's why
they're successful. No, you can work with me and still
be an independent businessman, boss owner like you came in.
But I don't need you to be subservient to me.

(04:46):
That's those other guys that make you pay dues.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
You said earlier that you rewrote a lot of what
money might was to say and how he behaved. So
they allowed you the freedom, the liberty to add lib.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
How much would they allow you to just make an interception?
If it didn nobody talk about it? As a football player,
if the ball come your way, can you just grab it?
Can you make an interception anytime? Are you allowed to
pick up any fumble? You can do any hustling? Right? Oh, okay,
same here, same here.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
But here's the thing, though, even as an offensive player,
they might let me add lib once I get a
couple of years into my breath.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
They wouldn't let me add lib as a rookie. That
was your first movie.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I told you the conversation in my first movie just
because I am committed to laughs. The only way I
made it past those three hundred comedians. I didn't tell
you this. What it required is I had to watch
all three hundred comedians ten times a piece. I watched
your set ten times of you performing whoever you were,

(05:53):
and then I counted how many laughs you got every
time you did these amount of minutes. So if you
told me this comedian and told me he did thirty minutes,
I could tell you that he got twenty six laughs
in that thirty minutes because I had done the numbers
on everybody. So I didn't just say I was funnier.

(06:15):
I knew I was funnier than the comic you liked,
and I could tell you how many jokes funnier I was,
because that's how we judge stand up. You do fifteen minutes,
I do fifteen minutes. How do I know I'm funnier
than you Because you got six laughs and I got sixteen.
I'm almost three times better than you, low key boy boy.

(06:37):
But I'm never gonna tell you the formula, so you
gonna keep just going out there filling jokes. Not understand
it that I psychologically the audience by ten years is
convinced that I'm funnier than you. They just don't know why,
because I'm putting out more content better.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I had Terry crews on here. He said. At the
time that you did the movie, you were homeless. Is
that true?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
This was my situation. I five months prior to me
getting this first audition for Friday after Next, I got
this baby son. I'm holding him up above me. He
grabs my little chain. He's playing with it and he
accidentally drops it. It breaks out my front two teeth.

(07:34):
I'm in a situation now where when I go to
the dentist, they telling me this's gonna cost thousands and
thousands of dollars to fix this. Right, They're not telling
me what it's gonna look like. I go get an
estimate with no money evolved to find out what I
need to do. They find out you got a tumor
in your upper jaw, so we're gonna have to do
a whole surgery for you. It's gonna be one hundred bands.

(07:57):
I don't have it. I don't have it, and I'm
only gonna have this check from this movie. So while
I'm doing this movie, we live in this trailer. This
where we live. So when they come to work at
five in the morning, we already did. When they leave
at night, we're still there. We just double back because

(08:21):
we understood that this is our one opportunity, and we
have this opportunity to change our lives. Just like a
young man going for the draft, we can actually get
in the league with this. There are thirty comedians on
this cast. They're all magnificent. This is the holy grail
of the situation. So yeah, I was able to make

(08:42):
sure that because it wasn't just my first movie, it
was KD. Albert's first movie. It was Terry Crews first.
I was the leader of this group, which meant that
we did We didn't do their rehearsals they did rehearsal.
We did our own rehearsals daily to make sure that
we were at the level of professional actors, which is

(09:05):
what made it so egregious that guy say, I was
supposed to you were supposed to what.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Candy did have a.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Good part in the movie. Man Santa Claus was funny man.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
The dude said the entire time we're filming, I can't
play this role. They got a bandone over my nose
and my mouth, my throne is not even gonna know,
So yeah, tell your story.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
He's Terry Crews also said that you guys had a lot,
had a lot of conversation that this was your opportunity
and you needed to seize this moment.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Terry had the benefit of having been in some very
high profile situations already and took else like he had
been in the league, you know what I mean. He
he he had done pro wrestling, he had done a
lot of things he had been televised and some things
that hadn't worked right, and this was just fortuitous for him.

(10:15):
And now you know what nobody has ever said in
the whole industry in twenty years about, you know, the
whole money might not getting raped in the bathroom, right,
So I understood going in that There's no reason I
lost every n for a five year period. Every single
movie that Kevin Hart did was a movie that had

(10:38):
been on my desk that all I had said was
just can we take some of this step and fetch
it shit out and then I can do it like
it don't need to be overtly homosexual cause I'm not homosexual, right,
It doesn't need that right to be funny, right, And
I and m me saying that and then going oh, yeah,
no problem, and then going to give it to this

(10:58):
other guy and having him do it just like it
was and acting like I'm a bad person because I
keep standing on my standard. But yeah, it's it's interesting,
but I wouldn't change it for the world. Like again,
I'm I'm on the win these decisions.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Look, I've had cube, I've talked to CBE and a
lot of people say, Cube don't doesn't pay. What's your
relationship with CBE and what did that opportunity mean for you?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, the ungrateful bastards that would say anything about qbe's payment,
you shouldn't even talk to them anymore. Like you don't.
You don't go to good will. You don't go to
a good will thrift store and go look at all
these cheap as shit. Won't you shut up? Won't you
shut up? You could have went to her mess Why

(11:54):
you didn't go to Blidciaga? Why you ain't get a
vow to the ball? Main you want to have that conversation?
What you mean the independent black dude who's filming it
partly out of his fucking pocket, which you mean he
didn't pay you enough? They wear those weird those that
felt like they earned the opportunity because they were big. No, No,
I understand that.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Ain't no two hundred million dollar movie. I mean, how
much did you expect you was gonna make?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Well?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I made enough to get them teeth fixed, just like
you did. Yeah, so I it was no harm, no foul.
I knew that I was gonna go from there, and
there was no.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Gonna turn it back with cat will you.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Well, here's the thing. I wrote it. What I'm saying,
I'm saying if I did it, and I did a
good job at it, you can thank me. I was involved.
I'm not gonna come later on and tell you I
never even read the whole script. So how you know
it roes? What? What do you mean you never read that? Like, Like,

(13:00):
these guys whole job is to present something, unfortunately, and
I'm just not a presenter. If you ask me a question,
I'm just gonna tell you the truth of how I went.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Would you be willing to do another Friday?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Cube already asked me to write it. I was supposed
to have been writing it. That's this is what these
guys are mad about. Like we lost some great people
before this movie could come out, regardless, and so yes,
they're desperately needs to be one. But we miss John

(13:40):
Witherspoon in a way that can't really be quantified cause
I'm being honest with you. And the Chris Tucker that
we got now is Epstein Island Chris Tucker or not
Smoky Oh whoo. If I didn't know no better, I

(14:01):
tell you he's the greatest. I don't caet what you
say to be confident and not delusional is a real skill.
Most of these confident people we see is really the losion.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well, you don't think, you don't think.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
They asked Chris Tucker to come back in the second
in the in the second Friday, Smoky Smokey was all
in smoking.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
There ain't no Friday without smoking.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
We all agree to that, and there's no next Friday
without Friday, and there's no Friday after next with us.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
We talked about the rule. Because you say that they don't.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's a thing. There's a thing. Chris was allowed to
make the decision at the time that this is happening.
Kat Williams is known for smoking weed. Willie Nelson is
known for smoking weed. Snoops known for smoking weed. But
none of us is really known except will it. And

(14:58):
I'm saying Chris Tucker didn't want to be the poster
child for smoking weed. He don't smoke weed like that.
He in the church. He Michael Jackson's best friend, Christmas.
Michael Jackson called him Christmas. You ever met a man? Yeah,
you a little nickname like that? No, me neither. What'll

(15:23):
be the greatest man?

Speaker 1 (15:25):
I ain't gonna be able to get nobody back. I
ain't gonna be able to get no mo comedians.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
They all coming, Are you kidding? Hey?

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I got all the rest of them. I would have
got the ones.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I promise you, everybody trying to double back, you're gonna
be out to beat him off with him stick. You
won't let him. You're gooman much as.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
You're on Death Comedy Jam Comic View, what were those experiences?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Like?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
What do you what do you remember most about Death
Comedy Jam.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
And Comic View?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Comic View was everything. Comic View was really the break
and not Friday after Next, just because Comic View was
just three thousand of your stand up peers and we
just throw sets of all of them up there and
we see who the audience likes, who do they like?
And it was a great wild, wild West time to

(16:22):
be involved in comedy. And the same is true for
Death Jam because hip hop was a fad at one
time and hip hop ain't gonna last and why are
you doing that? And that's how it was for Blue comedy.
If you were a comedian that cussed, you were ridiculed
by the mainstream comedy geist. That would be like me

(16:46):
being on Joe Rogan, Joe don't want me on there.
I need to be on Shannon Joe. Joe got six
comedians that never been funny. He wanted to push out.
But that's really how it is. I'm so sorry. I'm competitive.
You an athlete, right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, I can tell you understand. Will there ever be
another comic view, Death Comedy Jam? Could that in today?
Twenty four? TWI twenty six? Could we see that again?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
They've already announced it. It's already going. You didn't know. Yeah,
Kevin Hart purchased it, so he's now doing a comic
view that captained at the same time that they gave
DC Young Fly Hollywood Squabs. Yeah, because they tell you
that there's no gatekeepers, but we keep seeing the same
people open the gate. They can Kevin open the game,

(17:37):
let Tiffany in, and he now opening it up foot.
Don't such and such open the game? But well, you mean,
ain't no gatekeepers one hundred gates out here? Would you
everyone I've seen got a keeper?

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Would you have wanted to do comic view or death
Comedy jam?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Would you have wanted to be I think we just
mentioned I did them.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Boy, No, I'm saying he purchased the rights and refranchise it.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Nope, they didn't offer it to me anyway. Like Comic
View did a couple of disservices to comedy as well.
So there were people like me that were out there
getting two and three standing ovations in one set, and
that wasn't good for television. So what they did was
they started making everybody get a standing ovation, so they

(18:28):
would tell the audience when they get off stage, everybody
get up in chair. And so now the fact that
I'm the only one out there going to get standing
ovations is now making people think everybody get a standing ovation,
and that's not how comedy is. So I understood why
that couldn't go anymore because remember Ricky Smiley sat right

(18:49):
here and told you a story about how he performed
with Mike Epps and Kat Williams when he did Comic View,
and to let him.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
Tell it, he was funnier than both my Nay lived down.
You're talking about the special needs.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh that's good.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
That's a different type. That was a different time.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Cat, No, it wasn't. It wasn't the time I was there.
But I'm saying that time, this time, same times.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
No, But I'm.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Saying just white people that tell you the Egyptians, they're
not black. Egypt is in Africa, folks. As long as
Egypt is in Africa, then Egyptians are African.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Do you believe you could tell the same jokes today
as when you started out?

Speaker 3 (19:38):
I mean, theydn' mur afraid not telling those jokes.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Richard prob wouldn't be able to tell those jokes in
twenty twenty four that they told in the seventies, in
the eighties.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
So they wouldn't have total But that's my point. They're
not inferior people. No, if they were in this time,
they would be going according to our time, just like
then we were going according to that like That's how
it is in the world. There are words that we
can use for a while, and when we use them
for a while, until somebody says that ain't a good word,
we should stop saying that. Correct that don't make people

(20:08):
feel good, and we stop saying the word, and we
move on to another word. You can't say to our word.
You can certainly say special needs, you can certainly say spectrums.
You get there are things that you can say to
get your point that don't have to hurt people. But
you would know that if what you did was construct
the English language for a living. Then you would understand

(20:31):
that part.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
You financed your first stand up, you had twenty It
cost you twenty two thousand, you had twenty five to
your name.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Why did you decide to do that?

Speaker 1 (20:43):
You believe? You believe that.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Much in cat I believe that much. In business and
business the goal is for you to become independent and
be the boss, take the responsibility and also get the profit.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Okay, that's all.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
How How can i'd be looking for you to put
me on if I wouldn't and if I can't show
you what you missed out on? Why would you believe me? Now?
The fact that I was able to do it twelve times,
that's the real thing. The part that I'm able to

(21:18):
do it all across the country. The fact that every
time I do a tour or a special, you think
that's sponsored by somebody. Nobody did a good job. No, No,
just just the guy they're kicking around, just the one
that might mentally not be all there. He's the one
picking the outfits, writing this guy's material, booking the shows,

(21:39):
making sure he gets there. He's the one hiring the
other comedians. He's behf I knew that that's the end goal.
So if that's the end goal and I'm there when
I start, why would I deviate from that? Right? Remember
I I my goal was to get this far in
Hollywood and still have a virgin asshole and never had

(22:05):
sucked the penis. That was my only goal. I didn't
want to get with a white woman because I was
scared she might have me running down the street like
Jonathan care not because I didn't like white women. I
think white women are as great as any other women,
but I'm not gonna act like I'm not scared of them.
I have a reason to be scared. You could be

(22:27):
came the conqueror and they could take your rebbit ass
down in two weeks, and that's the truth of the matter.
So I stayed away from that. And remember I told
you the drug story from when I'm in the park,
So these are just the things I had all of
those when I came in. I already was ready for that.
That's what they don't like.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
I did not know. You're telling me and showing me
a side of the business that I didn't know that
you got a man, The competition, the competitiveness.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
That all business. I don't care if they're selling coke.
You wouldn't believe the things that Coca Cola says about pepsi.
You wouldn't believe the water conversations between the sani and
liquid death. Like in all business, in all sport, competition

(23:20):
is a driving force. And I don't require anybody to
be better? Who am I? I just require if you're
a loser and you've taken shortcuts at every chance, and
you've made sure that you didn't put anybody on that
really had a work ethic and was a god fearing
person and you helped it. If that was never you,

(23:43):
then don't act like that's you don't get out here
now that you don't do stand up and start acting like, oh,
you're not sure why you don't do stand up no more?
I heard you got run off. You better be careful.
The nigga that run you off gonna show up and
he gonna tell everybody, I mean what you gonna be
able to say nothing? Why you think I speak with
such clarity? I'm actually involved in each one of these

(24:05):
stories I told you about right right.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
The one comedian we've been sitting here doing this interview
that you holding very high regardless, Dave Chapelle. Dave Chapelle
walked away from fifty million. You said it was more
tell the story.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's right, No, I want you to tell it.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
You really are the best. You've proven it here today.
As much as I'm proving it, you proven it. You've
proven it. Yeah, that wasn't the thing. It wasn't. People
say that he lost fifty million dollars. No, No, that's
not even close to what happened to this dude. And
until you understand what happened to the dude, you don't
understand what happened. Like, no, not. They offered him fifty million,

(24:50):
and he turned it down. Who's gonna turn down fifty million? Now,
I've had to turn down fifty million dollars four times,
four times, just to protect my integrity and that virgin
hole I was telling you about it, right because he
didny be wanting a party and you gotta tell him, no,
got to tell him no, I did. I did. See.

(25:12):
I got the receipts for everything I'm telling you. That's
why I can say thank you, because early on you
was accusing me of being.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Cat man.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
It's crazy, I mean, but you know some of these
people Martin tried to put me in my first dress
when he had to go on this hiatus. He tell me, Kat,
when I come back, I need you. You're my young partner,
You're my brother in comedy. When I come back. Just
promise me that my next movie it'll be me and you.
We're gonna do it together. We're gonna do some Boddy
cop shit. I said, Martin, you got my motherfucking word,

(25:49):
my nigga, go do what you gotta do when you
come back. I'm in your movie. Don't trip. I don't
need to see the script or nothing. You know. We
get in that office and this food pull out Big
Mama's house too. I almost died, and I gotta read
this script from all these good white people where this
nigga want me to get an address with him? And

(26:12):
I'm literally saying, everybody, why is he in a dress again?
You already played the old lady as FBI agent. We
can play anything now, we can be playing a dog
catcher his kind. Why do we need to be in
a dress? And I get so mad. I say, you
don't want me, you want Brandon T. Jackson, and that's
who they win got twice. I said that they win't gotten.

(26:33):
Just like I'm telling you, I had the other dudes work.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
I had all of it.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
All I did was say, I want to punch it
up so it's not offensive to real niggas. And that's
how I got in this position.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I sure hope I have a club cha after this year.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
It's gonna be in the dimension that's never been the
greatest thing floating way in a whole different realm of business.
Oprah coming next. Once I established this as a place
of truth, Oh yeah, watch watch God's people. Ain't that feud?

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Prince you met?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Prince prison is a friend of mine.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
He was a friend of mine.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
What was those conversations?

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Because he is Look, I mean, sometimes we don't really
understand or appreciate someone until they're gone.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
I did. I was a big Prince fan.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
All this stuff because he could play all the instruments,
he could sing, he could he was an entertainer that
could sing. And what he wrote, I mean, who thinks
of cherry moons? Who thinks it snows in April? Who
had a raspberry bearet, a pink cashmere? The thing, the
purple rain? The things that he wrote about were like, bro,
who mine goes there? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
He was. He was like any unlike anybody in the world.
He he he was. He was just an amazing individual.
I W. I was able to meet him when I
was twelve, and I knew him my entire life through
all of his changes. I was able to assist him

(28:23):
many times. If you go look at Prince's car collection,
you'll see that Prince don't have not one car cat
Williams ain't got. He got the Prowler from Friday after
next and now he got the same Bentley as me,
like because we share certain things. Our our connection was lyrics,
musical lyrics, women and cars, and that's w Those are

(28:46):
the areas where he trusted uh my opinion on things,
and that's where I got to be helpful in his life.
And he was helpful in mind in really all different type,
especially about the business as far as being a black
man that was rich in this business at eighteen years old,
had already did his first million dollar contract, had already

(29:09):
broken records, was determined that he didn't want to be
like anybody else. Was so great of a guitar player
that black people just stopped caring about guitar and he
got left out on a limb and somehow still had
to create his way out of that. He was just
really a one in a billion type person. I was
looking it on.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Now they're specials and the streaming, I don't know. I
don't think there's as many as there's no DVDs now,
So where are you on this? The streaming, the specials?
I mean obviously you still tour, but how much do
you focus on? Okay, I'm a tour, say one hundred
days or one hundred and fifty days, but I'm gonna

(29:53):
do a special.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Well now that our relationship with Netflix says that the
eight figure mark.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Eight? How eight?

Speaker 2 (30:07):
How often you want to make him?

Speaker 1 (30:09):
You said eight? I mean like like five, six.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Seven, eight, gotta be ten million to qualify yep. So
what I'm saying is, once you're at that level, I mean,
what you do. I'd be willing to bet you say
some time you turn around, I'm gonna be doing another one.
And I think that's what you would say if you
was any good. Yeah, like I said, like I said,
with twelve comedy specials, why do I need to be

(30:34):
in these conversations with these specialist people? Say? It ain't
got no special You remember Steve ain't got no specials.
You remember Ricky ain't got no special You remember face?
I ain't got no what so why do you are special?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
It was twenty minutes long.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
It was good too, though.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
It was He's good, not it was good. He yes,
he's good. Don't think because I said something a derogatory
that I don't. I don't know how to hate. Earthquake
has consistently. I don't think anybody's ever said quake wasn't funny.
He probably never been boothed. I don't think. I don't

(31:13):
think he's ever given a bad performance. But but but
his just due was overdue. He was in a whole
different situation. Yeah, because he wasn't able to translate the
stand up to the movie that TV. He took a hit.

(31:33):
Most people don't take a hit. They're just judged on
their stand up. So yeah, no, I I even though
it sounds like there's a lot of people I don't,
that's not the case. I am. I'm a proponent of
all of us who are in this business, working hard,
trying to make it.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
When you got in a stand up, was crossing over?
Was doing TV? Was doing movie? Was that? Was that
a part of it? You're like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm
doing stand up Okay, next, next, the the next progression is.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
TV movies throughout throughout the history of stand up, sir.
That's that's the goal for all of us. That's how
it goes. That's why when you hear these dudes talking about, oh,
I didn't want to be a movie star, you just
know it's disingenuous, like we talking about dude. Yeah, old, no, Now,
I just wanted to do a game show, right what

(32:24):
you sure? Are you sure? Because I thought you did
Mark Curry's show over after he had just done hanging
with mister Cooper. Why would you do all of that
man stuff that he did on his show on yours
and then do the dude stand up when you go
on the road and then you never put Mark Curry

(32:45):
on your show or nothing. Like. If you don't say anything,
these dudes will run over you. I don't know if
you know how bullies operate.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I do.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
If you don't stand up for yourself, there really is
nothing they won't do.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Right you at you, You were the sole sponsor of
Melbourne Moore getting a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
You did all that on your own. Why what do
you have a personal relationship with Melbourne? No?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
No, I understood that she was a black woman in
a time where it mattered what you look like, and
they had a certain thing that they needed you to
look like and act like in order to be successful.
And she just never did that. She wasn't tall enough,

(33:35):
she wasn't fine. Uh. They didn't like her look, they
didn't like that her hair was natural. They talked crazy
about her, and yet she still made all of these achievements.
And I'm like, understand, I'm already in the comedy Hall
of Fame. I'm already going to heaven no matter what happens,

(33:57):
if it ends in a second, I'm up there. So
it gives me the leadway to do some things that
are simply because it's the right thing to do. So
the truth of the matter is they wanted to give
me a star, but please don't consider me. And this
person been sitting on this list this whole time, and

(34:21):
just because they ain't got enough money they can't get
they just do That's crazy. When do you start? That's hurtful?
What if somebody can't afford their flowers? You mean they
don't get them? No, God, Tom operate like that. He
was sending a dummy like me to come and take
care of that, just so that the right thing happens.
That's how the universe work. Because remember, I don't what

(34:42):
I'm spending my money on. I'm not spending my money
on strippers. I ain't spending them on drugs like what
because if I go on, if I go in to
strip club, I'm only trying to get her out of there.
I have no intention of her or any other people
being in this flace position. If I see a girl
I like it the strip club, I'm telling it. You

(35:04):
know you don't have to strip no more after this.
This could be your last day. How about that? What
would it be like just to leave it all? You
ain't gotta be I don't know more.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I don't even want you to go get your first
leave it and were getting new I d we getting
new ID in critic and soci security card.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
We don't need none of that. This life don't look
good on you. You don't even look like a drug here
these athletes talking about Yeah, we was out there tricking.
What why? You're part of the problem. You're part of
the problem. Stop paying people that you don't have no

(35:48):
respect for sets it up bad for us. We got
women out here can't find a man because they're acting
like him. You alpha. Now, the alphas all want these
subservient husbands. You can't have one. Bang. It ain't gonna happen.

(36:11):
Sorry about that. Okay, go ahead, boy? You done got
me canceled? How many times in this program? R where's
the camera? I didn't write nothing, I said to Night,
It's all been on these Q cards and read them.
Ask your next questions?

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Do you have them get out of financial situation?

Speaker 2 (36:41):
I don't think we ever as a nation can remember
a time that the Migos were financially unsuccessful. So for
the record, I would assume that they've never needed Kat
Williams financial assistance for anything. I'm sure that between QC,
the label, and other things, they were taken care of.
On the other hand, if I was given the opportunity

(37:04):
to help them what I of course I would. That's
what I do. I'm I'm a pro black, non racist, Like,
I really really love black people, but I don't love
them more than other people. I love everybody. I just
I'm a black guy and I try to stick with that.
But yeah, I'm not one of those pillow talkers either. Like,

(37:28):
when I do something good, I'm really not doing it
for the ground. It's not for it's not for any
of that. I'm just doing it because it's good to do.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
I appreciate that I've read. I don't know if this
is true, but I did read that comedians on your
show say that women sometimes would bring them money and
not say where it came from. Say that again, comedians
would say women would bring them money and not say
where it came from.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Right, So, I'm not a feminist like a feminist would be,
but I do believe that there are no there that
in my camp. Like if I had thirty five people
in my camp, right, I believe that other than four jobs,
I believe that a woman is better at any of

(38:20):
them jobs than any man could be. So ten of
these jobs no man can work because I'd rather a
female be there. If I got to smell anybody's breath,
I want it to be hers. I don't want none
of you, krusty. So what I'm saying is, in a
staffing issue, I'm gonna have seventy five percent women just

(38:41):
because I prefer them. I don't prefer to hear two
guys talking in the corner. I prefer to hear two
ladies talking in the corner. I don't care what they're
talking about. I just prefer that. So a lot of
times I will utilize ladies to convey a message. If
a comedian is doing a great job where in the country,

(39:01):
he just did a masterful set, and nobody's gonna pay him.
They just clapping me, And I know he's broke as
shit back there. Wouldn't it be nice if somebody just
showed up and gave him a little blessing and he
didn't have to suck me off for it, and thanks
kat boy, I really needed it. Why would you do that?

(39:27):
If you was actually just trying to help people, you
would people know. That's how I paid my ties. If
I got paid one hundred thousand dollars to be at
your city, I'm gonna take ten thousand of that and
put it in your homeless area now, because I got
to cause you gave me a hundred racks to come
to your little RinkyDink town. Who would I be to
not pay my times back to your town. That's how

(39:50):
I got in this position.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Wow, you adopted seven kids why, that's a lot of
kids For a man that's as busy as you are,
travels as much as you do on the road, as
much as you are, spend a lot of time because
you have to spend a lot. I mean, it's not easy.
I mean maybe it comes just so comes so natural

(40:15):
to you to put pen the paper and to write
things down and be able to go out there and
perform a set.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
But that's a lot of responsibility.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Cat, right, right, But if there was a God, well
would he think about you if you did that? I'm saying,
let's just let's say, for example, okay, that God is real, Yes, okay,
and let's say he'd be looking at what you do. Yes, Well,

(40:43):
what he say if you did that?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
He said that, Cat, that's that's a very that's a
very kind gesture. That's very jealous of you.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
My whole life. Since I was telling you when I
was young and they was asking me what I wanted
to be, and nothing I wanted to be. What I
wanted to be God's friend. That's a weird thing. If
you ate this, if you ate this, I didn't even
say nothing. But if you believe in God, and I
tell you that I wanted to be God's friend, and
I wanted to even go to Hollywood and still be

(41:14):
God's friend. If I told you that that was my aim,
you can understand where I'm at. Like I promise you,
no jealousy, no bitterness, none of that. I got exactly
what I was trying to get. I haven't been shortened
in any way.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
I mean, seven eight kids single, you.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Gonna get married.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
You remember the conversation where I was where it was
me yes, and I didn't know what was gonna happen
to my two little brothers, and it was just gonna
be out there.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
So when it gone full circle and I'm one of those,
I'm one of the richest men that ever lived. And
don't don't I don't mean please don't look at my
net worth. I saw my net worth had that on me.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I wan of God.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
What I'm saying is like I'm saying, my network is
less than my last Netflix. There you understand what I'm.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Telling makes sense.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
But I'm fine. Jesus was poor. Jesus had nothing, So
why don't we be mad. You say I don't have nothing?

Speaker 1 (42:34):
They had the minutes they have back then, Okay, say again,
we got different minutes now.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Not more than gold. Gold was the amenity of that time.
We still got gold. The coles still run it.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
They they got to you could buy, you can buy ass.
That's what they call it. A biblical time. They were cheap.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I'm saying, if you really want to say, I'm saying,
a colornn is cheap. So back in the day, I
would get my girl a donkey. Today we get her
a color now. But I'm saying whoever, I'm saying whoever
and whatever it is I'm saying, I'm saying, because what
we gonna do, I don't already told you. I'm want
of the richest people that ever lives, only in the

(43:22):
fact that when I wake up in the morning, no
matter where I am, I don't need nothing. Whatever I
need is right around me. And whatever I don't have,
it's only just because I don't have it. It's not
because I can't get it. All I gotta do is
want it and it belongs to me. So because of that,
because I'm favored by God. Like when I see people's

(43:43):
wives and stuff, I don't even look at them, you
know what I mean. Like I don't want to look
at nothing. I don't want to have because I know
how blessed I am. If I look at it, I
got it. That's how did he be feeling.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
So you're not supposed to look at anything that you
don't want.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Not me personally, just because God has given me literally
everything I ever even pump faked like I want. And
that's the whole thing. That's that's the whole thing is
I don't I don't have a type of woman. Every
woman that I ever had as a type, I ended
up getting her. Now she's not the type anymore. Now

(44:26):
I understand that every woman is a one of one,
like you can't really have types. M M what cause
see how you trying to ask you about marriage? Yeah
you did. When you rewind the table, you let it out.
You was like, so you ever gonna get married? And

(44:47):
then you took it back. It's okay, it's okay. I
wasn't not as a pharramphic memory, are you. I'm not
against it. Like most people that are not married, it's
because they're afraid of commitment. It's not that like that
for me. It's just the whole time I wanted to
be married, I had kids, so I had to try
to fill my wife's place before she got there. So

(45:08):
I've already got kids without a mother. But so now
I got to be doing laundry, I'm washing dishes, I'm
reading stories about I'm having a nurture. I'm having to
do all of this. And I got to the point
where I didn't need the wife. I'm doing it and
we're doing it, and I'm not replacing a woman in
their lives. I'm letting them see that that's just the

(45:31):
only thing that we don't have. And it was easier
for me to do that because you have to understand
that all of the kids I'm raising at this point,
they have fathers, you see, they have a mother.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
You see.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
I'm a different person I'm raising you, and so that
needs to be done with the other respect for the
others that put work in as well. So, yeah, I
never had a problem get married.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
What's one of the one things you try to teach
your kids.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
I don't teach anybody anything that's over eighteen. I've done
the work I was going to do. But as kids,
I really just tried to teach the things that can
be bought. Your integrity, trying to live your life in
a way that you yourself could be proud of if you

(46:29):
had to look back on it. And I didn't do
very good at leading by example, but behind the scenes,
I was that's never what I was pushing. They understood
that because of my stance, there was a certain thing

(46:50):
that would come my way. And so accountability and responsibility
is part of what you're teaching, is that you know,
even if you're doing the greatest thing the world, there's
this thing called no good deed goads unpunished, Like there's
a real Murphy's law. Like basically in raising kids, you're

(47:11):
just trying to give them a better manual and an
outline of how life works. Then your parents gave you,
you know, and so that's how I did it.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
How do you avoid toxic women? Give me, give me,
give me? I mean, because obviously you know you like women.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
I do, and I probably like toxic ones more than anybody.
That's because because toxic women are exciting, and that's just
a fact. Part of toxic is excited. I'd rather sky
dive with her. But but but if you have toxic women,
just understand that all monsters are feeding off of something,

(47:59):
and if you find out what this toxic woman is
feeding off of, you can just begin to turn off
her feeding points, and it drives a toxic person crazy
and they'll get away from you. So whatever, if she's
truly toxic, there are certain things that she's doing that
help fuel her toxicity. You're not noticing it, but it's

(48:22):
what it is. Why do you think she watches Murder
Mystery asfo she goes to sleep? Why is it always
the crime drama plan and.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Turn it off?

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Turn it to cartoons?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
No, you don't get to what's she listening to? You're
gotta be listening to Sexy Red. You're broke. Toxic people
are trying to get things. They're not being toxic for
no reason. They're gaining something out of how they operate.

(49:01):
That's why they operate like that, because they get something.
As soon as you find that out, you'll be able
to cut off what they get and they will leave.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Yeah, you were married once?

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Never?

Speaker 2 (49:15):
You were married never in life?

Speaker 3 (49:17):
So would you have a cohabitation agreement?

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Never?

Speaker 2 (49:21):
How How could I be a single parent and be married?

Speaker 1 (49:24):
And you could? But you know there are people that like,
were married and then they get divorced and then they
become single parents.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
That's how that worried.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, but the person who's never been married, he's never
been married.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Okay, I'm gonna take your word for it.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Why would you need to take my word for it?
Hold on, hold on? If I had been married one
that somebody had said who.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
She was, No, it might have been a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
No, I've never not been famous, sir. I've just I
just I just worked a story out to you. I
don't have no end mysteries in my life. That was Jesus.
I don't have no parents of my my life where
it's unaccounted for. No. No, No, that person that said
that was a liar. I got a case right now
in La. This lady says she was my assistant for

(50:09):
fourteen years and I heard her or something like that.
I never worked for me, not the day in my life.
Liars lie because they want to, But people always say
why would they lie? No, there are several women have
said they was married to me. It's just when it
went to court they had to say I was married
to him spiritually. You shut up. How you going to

(50:33):
be married to me? My kids don't know. You answer
me that.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
So do you have a problem Do you have a
problem bringing women around your kids?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
No, not then or now. I've always lived with several women,
like I'm known.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Several, like more than one.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
I've already told you that I preferred the company of
women the company of men. So if I told you
that me and a couple of dudes on my staff
sometimes have to cohabitate, nobody finds a problem with that. Yeah,
so it's me and three ladies cohabitating, because that's how
the business gets done. Like I don't want a chef

(51:17):
that scratches his nuts for it, cause I don't like
no disrespect to these guys that go around with these
large male only groupings. But that's not my episode of entourage.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
You approached, You were approached by seven gunmen. You robbed,
shot in the thigh. Say again, you robbed once? Correct, No,
you didn't get robbed. You didn't. You didn't get approached
by gum and tried to get robbed. They didn't take anything.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
I wasn't even the I wasn't even the target. I
wasn't even who they were talking to. And not because
I say that because if you look at what time
period it is, I'm not even making five thousand a year,
so robbing me wouldn't Nansen this is before Oklahoma. You

(52:15):
talking about a terrible condition.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
They'd have been disappointed, thinking to get some more.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Eh. Look, in three cities, there is legendary that Kat
Williams would walk down our streets with his baby and
a baby stroller, with a diaper bag, with a gun
and a diaper bag. The only thing I need is
to pass. Don't mess with me and just let me
go about my business. I'm living in Inglewood, Compton, I'm

(52:43):
living on Manchester and Western. I'm in La the gang
capital of the world, but never robbed because why, I'm
not pretending to be something I'm not. You think I'm
a blood, you think I'm a crip. I'm from Ohio,
I'm a comedian, I'm a father. Right, I'm trying to
do something out here, and not only do I not

(53:06):
judge what you're doing, I'm not trying to be involved. Right,
That's the difference. That's where their respect comes from.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
To your touring.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Right now, Dark Matters the Dark Matter Tour filming next
uh Netflix special.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
In May May. Yep. Next now, oh.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
YouTube Theater in Inglewood.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
I might have to catch that.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
I thought you might say that I will catch that one,
right because it's a homecoming for me because I lived
on I lived on Hazel, so you know, no, I
lived in the heart of Inglewood. They saw me walk
down Market Street with the babies I'm raising like they
understood that. No, no, no, I was really not pretending, Oh

(53:48):
you wanted be from the hood. No, I'm living there
on the street.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
What's your favorite city of the tour.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
In the next one, sir, Yeah, that that's the real
beauty of travel, right. That's why most people don't have
the empathy and the sympathy that they need to have
for other people. It's because they haven't seen other people.

(54:13):
Like if you went to Ireland and you saw with
them people it was like and you went to Sweden
and saw them people, it was like. If you really
went to Africa and you really saw what the people
was like, you went to hate you with to Puerto Rico.
If you really traveled across the country, you would see
that all people is the same way, more people that's

(54:35):
good than the fucked up individuals you seeing. And if
you understood that, it would change everything. So I don't
I don't have any favorites in the world, just because
every place is dealing with their own issues, their own troubles.
All places look better than they actually are for the

(54:57):
people that live there, and it's always a difference. It's
between what it seems like and what it is like.
People will tell you I went to Paris, I was
there the Eifful Tower, that you had bedbugs and the
herrits everywhere, and the food was terrible. To tell the
rest of it, Gonna tell some.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Le mens a question when you go when you go
to these cities to tour, do you make it a
habit of getting out?

Speaker 2 (55:21):
That's how I built my reputation. It's also how I
ended up in jail nineteen times, because when I come
to do a show, I'm really in your city. So
whatever the strip club is, I'm there, whatever the top
bar is, Tom was there drinking whatever the I was over.
You got a casino, I was at it, like what
is it? Huh? Because I'm at your city. This is

(55:42):
how I'm learning your city, so that when I do
my show, I can be talking about what I know,
not what I think, right, And so that was what
I did at every city that I went to. The
first fifteen minutes of my show is what it's like
to be here. You see what I'm saying. And so
that was always a part of what kept my legend

(56:04):
going to the point where I can still be in
these arenas without you ever seeing a poster with my
picture on it, without you ever seeing a flyer, without
you ever seeing a poster goes, Hey, it's Kat. Could
y'all make sure y'all come out and come see me
because I'm gonna be in Would you please come on now? Guys,
I really because we have a different respect. I know

(56:30):
I'm coming, They know I'm coming. I know they gonna
be there, and they know I'm gonna do the best
job I can possibly do, and they know, beyond the
shadow of a doubt, whatever hour he was doing when
we last saw him, he won't be doing that hour
when we see him this time. It's a whole new conversation.

(56:52):
And because I've never strayed from that, they've never strayed
from their part.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
I'm looking at some of the actors that you've been
on screen with, Q Tracy Morgan, Regina Hall.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Terrence Howard.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
He's a look Nick Cannon, I mean Tiffany, I mean
bro who brings out the best in Cat William. How
does someone get the best out of Cat william Do
you need a comedian? Do you need a serious actor?
How do we get the absolute best out of Cat
Williams on screen?

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Well, I would be disingenuous if I didn't remind us
that that's never anybody's goal. It's never anybody's goal to
create a great situation for me to do a good job.
Why in a script. The way it works is the
script is already there. This is a character in the script.
If they give me the job, I make it my

(57:45):
job that this character here, this character here, has to
be as big as this whole project. So if you
don't even see the movie School Dance, I want you
to remember Who's got damn White Baby? Is this? And
the only way that I can guarantee that you will
remember my scene if you didn't remember a whole movie,

(58:07):
is if I make sure that my scenes are that good,
because that's what I watched. I watched great actors. You
never saw the Narrow, you never saw Peshi, You never
saw any of these dudes, and something you was like, nah,
I don't really believe it. You sure you're the great
gats Me? Like no, Like you believe that this dude

(58:31):
Daniel is a hobbit. That's part of the Lord of
the Rings, right, you see what I'm saying, And so
I it's having a respect for the craft that I'm doing.
That means I got trying to do the best job possible.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
What was it like working with Spike Lee doing Priceless.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Spike Lee is everything that you said I was in
my intro. He's just really an innovator and a groundbreaking
one of a dynamo. And I knew that they were,
like they tried to sabotage me even then, Like as
soon as I said I wanted to get Spike leaded

(59:13):
directed because that was the biggest thing I could do,
they immediately gave Spike to Jerrug Carmichael and had him
do his special too at the Comedy Store, and just
to undermine, Like, but I if there's one thing you
can take away from me as a person, whether you
like me or you don't, if you take this from me,

(59:34):
you will be a better person. If you decide today
that you're gonna live every day like it's your last
for real, which means have a conversation with yourself every night.
That okay, that was It may not be no more.
After that and really count yourself every day like this
could have been it all right before I go to bed,

(59:55):
this could be it all right? How's that looking? You
can do that. It'll change your life. You really start
making decisions and living your life like this all you
got just this one day, but you could be a winner.
You could be a winner on this day. It just
it's just work ethic and not the work ethic they

(01:00:15):
talk about. They tell you work ethic where they do
all these movies. I'm the hardest working man. No, everybody
goes to work every day, right, Yeah, I'm saying I
go to work all the time. Everybody who works goes
to work every day. Shut up, Shut up? You get
what you think. I respect you more than my gardener.
I don't. I don't he work every day. Rain A Shine.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
I don't know if you saw this, but Taraji p
Henson got extremely emotional the other day. She was giving
an interview, yes and saying that they're vastly underpaid and
say the math is not mathing. They get X amount
of dollars by the time Uncle Sam get his cut,
by the time the agency get their cut, and what
you see, they were supposed to get it's a fraction

(01:01:00):
of that. Where do you come down on that cat?

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
It was the saddest thing ever, because imagine, imagine being
in your genre and your subniche, whatever it is. Imagine
being in your lane. Imagine being one of the very
top of your lane. That to the point where if
they don't take you for the role, there's not three
black actresses that they can say are bigger than you,

(01:01:25):
that we're gonna give this to. Imagine you being at
that point. I have to humble yourself and say they're
not paying me, y'all, and they not making my pay
go up because I'm doing better or nothing. It don't
matter to them that I'm famous and people know me
or nothing. They want to pay me exactly what they
paying the new girl. And I've been suffering under it

(01:01:48):
for a decade now and just taking it. I've just
been getting whooped. But I just gotta come say this
is wrong. Oh we should be ashamed. But this is
a country where we don't pay the teachers. And then
we say the kids is the most important thing. You

(01:02:08):
can't have both of them. If you do that, we're
gonna end up with a generation that can't read. Guess
what generation Z and A can't read why cause who
was giving them a book? We got lied bad or
phone and now the letters don't mean that there's no
cursive writing. Sorry about that. So yeah, it this is
what period of time it's in. It's e the period

(01:02:29):
where the victims get to say they've been hurting me
for a long time, and I just ain't said nothing
because I was trying to be strong and I didn't
want to shame anybody. When our people call out for help,
we gotta understand, you know what I mean? Like like
we we we put too much pressure on Tyler Perry,

(01:02:50):
you know what I mean. He ain't putting nobody on.
The people that been in his productions. They not famous,
all of them could walk through them all without security.
Be what you be, but put your people on. If
you a gay person and you in there, put some
other gay people on, put somebody on. Or don't be

(01:03:11):
wondering why people keep saying gatekeepers, because clearly y'all keeping
these gates clearly wild'n out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
How difficult was it for Nick Cannon to get you on?
And what what was that? Really?

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
What was that experience?

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Like I've known Nick Cannon since he was a teenager.
He had to have his he in the comedy club.
If you're under age, you can't be in the regular club.
You had to be in the kitchen. So I was
the master of the kitchen every comedy place because I
got a child, and my child is back here in
this place while I go on stage. So I've known

(01:03:48):
Nick Cannon since he was fourteen. Nick Cannon has never
called and asked me to do one single thing, and
I turned him down because I've known him since he
was a young black child in Hollywood. Wow. So what
I did in wild'n Out was to be his protector
and to be his voice with hip hop. So the

(01:04:13):
whole thing was the thing that he was trying to
do had never been done before. You can't bring six
comics in unless six comics talk shit about six rappers,
because the six rappers will beat the six comics, ass right.
You would have to have a comic that could actually
stand in between and go, look, we comics, we gonna say, well,

(01:04:35):
we gonna say, y'all gonna take it and understand it's
a joke. If you want to fight, we fight before
the show. So you can go out there with your
black eye we're not gonna do it comedically. This is
what needed to take place in order to beat for
it to be successful, which is why it had already

(01:04:56):
aired and didn't work. And then suddenly when it comes
back with me, it's suddenly works because respect has to
be in there as well. If you are trying to
do it with Kevin Hart, you and him gonna get
run over. You a teenager, He five too, Like, what's

(01:05:16):
gonna happen?

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Who are some of your favorite young comedians?

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I don't I haven't seen a young comedian. I don't
like if you name any of the young comedians. I'm
aware of all of them, and they're all doing a
great job. It doesn't matter if it's Country Wayne or
Desi Banks. It doesn't matter if it's Carlos or Chico.
It doesn't matter if it's DC or just hilarious. It

(01:05:44):
really doesn't. It really doesn't matter. Once we go to
the young part. The young comedians are dealing with things
that we never dealt with, and so that gives them
more benefits, but it also gives them more chances of failure,
so it's not easier for them. So yeah, I'm a

(01:06:06):
big supporter of young comics. We have missed pretty Ricky
and Takarl Williams. I've taken twenty five black women on
the road in these tours. It's important to me that
the young comic gets the benefits and the advantages of

(01:06:27):
the big comics platform.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Matt Rife wild'n Out recently got canceled. You see Jonathan Major,
what he went through. Marble dropped him as soon as
they're guilty, the conviction came out, and you were telling
day you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Saw that black woman come get his charge cutting half,
thank you, making good God, bless you coming to same
that sleeve. If he'd had to be there by himself,
he was getting awful gilt get she came in. That
was just so beautiful that at the knock half of
it off, bless It's hard.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
So Matt, right, you know you know him from wildern Out.
He gets canceled for a time, trying to tell.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
I never knew him from wild'n Out, to be honest,
I came across him as a new comic, Okay, And yeah,
I'm really just trying to see the comics judge where
they are see it. Yeah, right, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
So the canceling, Uh, what do you think about this
cancel culture.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
You see the situation with Jonathan Major.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I mean, for all sins and purposes, I don't know
if maybe he can bounce back in a couple of years,
but man, he was he was hot. He was hot
as he was cooking. I mean, you see him in Creed,
He's in the Marble movies, and then just like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Maybe I'm a conspiracy theory, but I thought Cat Williams said,
any that time they make you into that position, part
of that contract is you do understand whenever we want
to take you down, we can right part of giving
you the work. First of all, they went around the
world for two years. Are telling any women that were

(01:08:01):
listen that this was a good looking negro? Since when
when did y'all start liking a big nose? And when
did y'all like a little head and a big joe?
When says when they look like my daddy, When you
start liking my daddy, you like black people's features like that.
If this ugly nigga is good looking, then all niggas
is good looking. Anytime you see them telling you something

(01:08:24):
you can't believe, just understand it's a play and it
don't matter. You gonna know us a play as soon
as they get in that position and think they's gonna
tell somebody something. No you not, No you're not. Marvel
will cancel you, so you won't be allowed to read
a comic book. What did you talk? Get out of here,

(01:08:46):
Get out of here, ugly boy. Yeah, they love fooling
the people.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
What's your relationship like with you now? You're still close
with Sugar? Have you spoken to him if you talked
to him recently?

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Yeah, he's doing good. Yeah, he's a man.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Were you a friend? You a friend from life with
Cat William?

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Yeah? Because the people that come to me are trying
to better their life. They're not trying to continue doing
what they have been doing. Okay, So when somebody comes
to me, male or female, it is in the auspices
that this is what I did, this is what I
used to do, This ain't what I want to do
no more, And I want to do something else, and

(01:09:29):
I'd like it to go a different way.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Okay, that's what I offer.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Yeah, So if you come to me under those auspices,
then my loyalty is life long. Why would it not be.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Tory Lane to me? What would you take on that
because I know you got to take on everything.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
I guess it's a difficult position because somebody's not going
to tell the truth, and the truth has got to
be told. In all circumstances. The truth has got to
be told. So if you don't want to say she shot,
then you shot her and that's the end of that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
You said you never have you ever spent time in jail?

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Thirty times?

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
When you was in there? What was going through your mind?

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Can?

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
What did?

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Did?

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Some people like man have an opportunity to reflect, and
I was like, man, this ain't the place for me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
I ain't coming back here when you for what.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
I've never been in jail, and it was my decision
to be there. If it's dangerous to be in the
hood and you have to have a gun on you
for protection, and it's either be judged by six or
I mean judged by twelve or carried by six, I'm
always gonna have my heater on me. So if you
want to tell me that you're gonna pull me over

(01:10:46):
fifteen times looking for it, I'm gonna tell you fifteen
times you're gonna find it. Unfortunately, I smoked cigarettes and weed.
If you catch me fifteen times, fifteen times. I'm gonna
have it on me. What do you think I'm in
jail thinking, Oh, I don't fuck up, Mam needs decisions.

(01:11:09):
I'm not gonna protect my life at all when I
get out of here. Fuck it. Let him do what
they wanna do to me. No, no, I When I'm
in there, I'm fine, and I'm understanding that I'm put
here for a reason, and the people that get joy
off me being in here are really gonna look stupid,
cause I'm finna be free because you gotta be setting
this up. I'm never anywhere to get anything. You don't know.

(01:11:31):
I just made three hundred thousand dollars in your city.
That's why you think I might be out here as
a ne'er. Do well? You think I'm he smoking weed? Yeah,
he's got a medical license for it. He needs it.
It's his only medication. Do you mind if he takes it?

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
It helps him eat, cause he does nineteen one hundred
city tours, flying across the line, and so he doesn't
get hungry on the regular, he doesn't get sleepy at night.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
He's got to literally put hisself to sleep. He's only
got to make it self eat, so this marijuana helps
him do both of those things.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
I want to help you sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Oh yeah, because remember, as a comedian, what you're doing
is against your natural timeline. Your natural timeline wouldn't be
that you will start your work day at eight o'clock
PM and then your work day is over at two
thirty am. Like that's a weird yes, right, So to
tell your body now that we're pumped up on endorphins,

(01:12:34):
now let's go to sleep at three. It don't work
like that. Your body has to try to get a
whole new schedule. So you know, it suffered. But that's
what works for me. I consistently used it. I told
people all across the country, don't worry. This will be
legal in our country. As soon as they find out
how to charge taxes for it. We will be legal

(01:12:55):
in this country. Do they view me as some sort
of visionary for my four words me? No? You on drugs?

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
What I heard camp? But how have you been? I mean, bro,
every time they try to put you down, they try
to put you to the back, you put you, bounce up,
you move right back to the front. Damn you. I
mean you like a super Bowl, you just keep bouncing
in and you bounce higher.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Trampoline skin is something that you ask God for. When
I watch you play football, you had it. There's some
people that there's really no such thing as hitting Shining
sharp so hard that he don't want to run the
ball the next play. Right, Absolutely, And if that's your

(01:13:43):
only goal is to hit him so hard, they don't
want to beat him no more. You just out of luck.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Yeah, you're wasting your time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
There's no nothing your coach can't help you. There ain't
no pep talk gonna help you. Don't matter about the uniform,
your chilling, none of that matters. It ever gets to
Mono imano. May the best man win. And if you've
been living your entire life trying to be the best
man that you can for yourself, then you should feel
great about those odds.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
What do you think about Kanye Rant? What's going on
with Kanye? From a distance, obviously I don't know how
well you know Kanye. I don't know if you've been
around Kanye. But from a distance, what do you suspects
going on?

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I suspect that we're pretty awful people. If we say
that somebody got a mental illness and then we watch
what they do. If you say somebody got special needs,
then why would you be watching them and holding them
accountable like everybody else? Wouldn't you grade them on a

(01:14:50):
curve when you go, who this guy? Because I mean,
what are we reacting to? Whatever you're reacting to. You're
the one that put him in a position where he
thought he was God and could call himself ye'sels And
you're the one told the guy that writes musical lyrics

(01:15:12):
that he was a genius. You're the one that's like,
so what you ain't expect The guy married a whore?
Like what? I didn't mean it like that. I mean
married her because she was one. Now he didn't know,
he understood that, he wanted that, He corded that that's

(01:15:33):
what he wanted. The basics, I know what you gonna say,
don't you say a cat?

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Don't you say it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
What I'm saying is not correct? The how does she
end up with Pete Davidson?

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
I mean, it happens all And what.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
If you weren't even good enough for Pete and he
leaves you? What do that mean? The product was No,
I don't I don't support or villainize Kanye because I
don't understand what it is we want from him. I
don't know why we look at a basketball player and
say he didn't score no hockey goals this whole season.

(01:16:15):
He don't play hockey. Kanye, don't say nothing I can
agree with. Okay, he was the weird guy in the
beginning with the pink sweaters when we met him, Like,
what do you think moving to a beat of your own?
Drop this. This dude started a church and kept cussing.

(01:16:39):
Nobody in black church said nothing. You would have thought
all the pastors would have came. You can't be no
gospel artists. You just said, fuck that bitch. Nobody said
nothing because Tdj's over there with being in it. Only
the guy you had here has been upfront and honest
and a man of God and hum and took the

(01:17:01):
l's he had to take and didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
I did see it was trending, though, But I ain't no,
I ain't no way I care.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
I don't let me go to this question right here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
It's all people that love the truth gotta be happy
if the truth coming out and livees is getting exposed,
that's just what time it is. Twenty twenty four, Folks.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Are you related to Luda.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
No. So there was a crossroads where we were both
invited to an Illuminati thing and it had to be
one or the other of us, and decisions had to
be made. So it was both of us. We were equal.
One of us had to cut off all their hair
and couldn't do the sideburned thing no more with the points.

(01:17:44):
And the next person they said was going to get
two hundred million dollars because they were gonna pay him
ten million a movie to do twenty movies. And that's
how the conversation happened. One of those persons turned out
to be ludicrous, and the other person turned up to
be Kat Williams. Now one person ended up with a
light skinned, ugly faced wife. That's never done it. Remember

(01:18:07):
I told you that if I say that it applied
to seven pills, it's part of what they give you. Okay,
I didn't get it. I'm not mad about it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
How they give.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Sir fast In furious on his own what number right now?

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Two under men, I might give me one of the
more women look to say.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
That's what they all end up saying. At the end
of the day, Kevin told you it won't go wear
no dress until they offered him to dress and then
he put it on, And what did he say after
he wore it? I made my own decision, Doug. But
you didn't make it before they brought it up, did you.
It's okay, all right?

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
You have a lot of politics.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Never talk about it. I'm not that controversial.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Where are we headed?

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Cap?

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
This is sad this. We've never been here before. We've
never been at the point where neither option is good
for us in real life. This is a different conversation.
This is would you rather go back with your ex
or would you rather go back with the person before them?
Both bad options? Like one guy, one guy can barely

(01:19:27):
put his sentences together, and the other guy will put
sentences together from whatever he's read or whoever told him.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Like, but how do we how do we get here?
How do we get here?

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
All division divides, There's no way around that. All division
divides politics. Even in the beginning, when our constitution was
drawing up, the two parties was not what they had
in mind. They always thought that it would be too
main and another they're independent party. They always assume the

(01:20:02):
independent party would be just as strong as the others.
A lot of that just didn't happen. And that's what
I've learned more from comedy is that Republicans laugh at
the exact same thing that Democrats laugh at. As long
as I'm talking to Democrats, I can make them laugh

(01:20:24):
for one hour straight about what Republicans do. By the
same token, I can go talk to Republicans for one
whole hour and have them dying about the stuff that
Democrats do. But at the end of the day, who
does that? Yeah, your team got an offense and the defense.
They're not supposed to be enemies. The enemy is the

(01:20:45):
other side. Wow, you can't do politics like that. Nope,
it's not good for the country man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
You see this Mark Zuckerberg building this two hundred and
seventy million dollar bunker.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
If you have a billion dollars, have learned that you
can do whatever you want to do. When Eli musk
Will was to send space things in space, he don't
have to ask nobody's permission. Congress, don't meet Senate, don't
meet no police department gotta be warned. He don't need
a permit, none of that. If you got a billion dollars,
you do what you want to do, and then you

(01:21:19):
tell them what you did. Right and that's how it goes.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
What he been on the b You want to send
to me a dollar bucket? What do he know that
we don't know?

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Cat Kim jong Un, I don't know what you don't know.
Do you understand that people that are not very bright
are in charge of nuclear bombs all across the country.
That's what he knows. He knows that thirty percent of

(01:21:46):
all weapons systems are running off regular Wi Fi. So
what does that mean? That means if a solar flare
or a meteor hits either one of those, literally a
bomb can go off just because the system accidentally got
turned off. Yeah, that's what he knows. The people that

(01:22:11):
are in power know that the people that are running
the most complicated and deadliest things on the planet are
just an average idiot. And you know lots of idiots.
I do, yep, And these these people are not special.
Back in the day, they were. Yeah, not today? Not today.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
You say you smoke a little weed, Yeah, smoke with Snoop.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Yeah, I'm actually a bigger smoker than's Snoopy. He'll tell
you that. But I don't like, I don't mix anything
with my weed. I just do weed, right, So no, yeah,
nobody has nobody. Nobody has nobody. Nobody does twenty blunts
a day like me for thirty years, like like I

(01:22:59):
was the first person that have a weed roller, like
somebody whose job it was, Like, I haven't. I haven't
rolled the blunt in twenty years. Probably Like if you go,
I'm saying I prefer the saliva of ladies. Oh no, no,
I understand what I'm saying. If for a blunt, it's
necessary for it to get later, right, And so if

(01:23:20):
you had spent twenty years smoking with dudes, that's a
lot of male saliva that you would have just accidentally ingested.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
I can't be this specimen on that. It takes the
saliva of nice ladies on that. But yeah, I'm a yeah,
that's all I do.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
Do you consider yourself a king of comedy?

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
No? They consider that. Like when after Bernie left them,
same three guys. I'm telling you about the kings, right,
because d L is the greatest do no d L
slander gets tolerated. But they came to me. I was
supposed to be the fourth king. I got the offer whatever,
I turned it down. Why because you shit on Bernie

(01:24:11):
And I know the truth. You think i'mna let you
shit on Bernie and then come get me, I'm the
next king.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Fuck you?

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Why because the whole time Bernie was here, you was
acting like you was funnier than him. The reason you
were supposed to go last is because it was your tour.
Tell the truth. It was Stem's tour. Now it was
gonna be called the King's Economy. Was Stem's tour. These
are the guys opening for him. Of course you got
a close if it's your tour, That's why it was
such a big deal. But you couldn't do it because

(01:24:41):
you can't beat the best. And until you humble on yourself,
you will forever be kinged by the king. And because
you finally did it, because you didn't have no other choice.
And now that he gone, you go ahead like he
wanted to be a movie star. You stop it, You
stop it. That man was funnier than all of y'all,

(01:25:02):
and y'all thought y'all had one over on him. You
thought he was black and ugly and you were good looking,
and he couldn't make it because you did. And that
ain't the way comedy worked. The kingest the funniest period
every time, and That's why no audience member was ever swayed.

(01:25:22):
It didn't matter where Bernie went. You think if Bernie
went first, he wasn't the king. Get out of here,
Get out of here, Get your ego out of this.
You let the best be the best, right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Cant wait?

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
You ladies and gentlemen, thanks for coming on, bro, I
really appreciate that. Thanks for sharing them. Thank you the stories.
Setting the record straight. Now you know they're gonna double back.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Impossible. Impossible only because if once you play this back,
you'll realize I didn't say anything that made me look
in a good light. I wasn't tearing down others to
boost myself up. But I do have to acknowledge things
that did not take place. Like we're very ingenuous if

(01:26:06):
we say this is not a game and we don't
play it, and people ain't in positions, and people don't
have their favorites in they group and they click it.
But that happens at all businesses. No, no, say what
side you on, say why you don't like the other side,
and then get to the game. But in the game,
I'm wiping the field with him to the point where

(01:26:29):
they don't even compete anymore. So how you gonna let them.
Dude that have been on the bench for fifteen years,
I would have beat Jordan's lass. Shut up, Jordan is
still alive. We're calling Jordan right now. You can't meet
him now, not then, you can't meet him now right

(01:26:52):
Kat Williams, Shannon Sharp.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Appreciate you both.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Appreciate you. All my life, running all my life, sacrifice, hustle,
pay the price. Wanta slice? Got to brow the dice?
Sap all my life. I've been grinding all my life,
all my life, running all my life, sacrifice, hustle, pay
the price, Want a slice? Got to brow the dice?

(01:27:17):
Swap all my life. I've been grinding all my life.
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