October 4, 2023 • 59 mins
NFL legend Marshawn Lynch takes the audience on a compelling journey of his life in football. Lynch dives into his impressive career that includes highlights such as being a Super Bowl champion against Shannon Sharpe's Denver Broncos and not getting the ball at the 1-yard line against Tom Brady and the New England Patriots. Marshawn imparts invaluable financial wisdom to professional athletes, emphasizing the importance of saving money, strategic investments, and building generational wealth. He reveals a never-before-heard account of how Aaron Rodgers played a pivotal role in his football career and securing him playing time at the University of California. The conversation takes a surprising turn as Lynch candidly explains why he isn't "cool" with former Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson. Moreover, he makes his case for why he deserves a spot in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, providing listeners with an engaging and insightful glimpse into his remarkable journey in the NFL. This episode is a must-listen for football fans, providing viewers with a rare glimpse into the mind of one of the sport's true icons.
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Speaker 4 (01:25):
Look, man, I'm gonna tell you straight up, I don't
fuck with you. Feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
So you didn't met with who I didn't fuck with
with Pink and then I mean, you know Rustler like
there's some quarterbacks for.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
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bed Price, want a slice?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
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Speaker 6 (01:46):
I been grinding in all my life, all my life.
Then grinning all my life, sacrifice, hustle, bad Price, want
a slice?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Got the bronin dis swat all my life.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I've been grinding in all my life.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Hello, welcome to another edition of Club Sha Shay. I
am your hole Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud of
Club Shasha. And the guy that's stopping by for conversation
on the drink today is a Super Bowl champ.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
He's a five time Pro Bowler.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
He's a two time NFL rushing touchdown leader, a two
time All, two time Pro Bowl player. He's a member
of the twenty ten All Decade ten team. He's an entrepreneur,
entertainment superstar, TV personality, actor, national treasure. He's here just
so he doesn't get fined. Beastmoe Marshawn Lynk, bro, how
you doing good? Did I get all did I get
(02:33):
all over it?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
In?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Is anything I left off?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Man? Yeah? You did?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
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leave off man?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
International player? Okay, you said this my camera?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Thatw's your camera.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Okay, let me do it self, Champ.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, we're good to go down. We're good to go
live and riding. You've been very busy since hanging up
the cleats. We're gonna get to your your football career
and your playing days. But you did a movie and
it's called Bottoms, and you took a role in honor
for your sister because you said you wanted to write
a wrong Explain to our audience what you mean by that?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh man?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
You know, uh ship in high school? Uh you know
it's little birds chirping and ship and uh it come
up you it come past my you know what I mean,
my locker, You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
My sister was a was gay or whatever it's song.
And at the time, I'm like, man, what the fuck?
I'm running around looking for my sister. And then when
I found her, I kind of got at her in
a in a way, in a manner which you know
wasn't right right, And I know I kind of made
my sister feel bad. And I mean, you know, me
(03:44):
and my sister went through like a little rocky time.
You know, she was in college playing and ship. I'll
pop up to the games, I mean, and she wouldn't
uh you know, I wouldn't even holler at me.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
So you feel me. I just you know what I mean,
as I as I as I grew.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So how were you when you first found this? When
you first the bird started chirping, you started?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I was about sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Is she older or younger than you?
Speaker 5 (04:09):
She younger than me? Okay, you know what I mean?
And you feel me. I'm a protector and my sister
got at me like, hey, look check this out. I
can't have no I can't hand no boys talking to me.
I can't talk to no girls. Like, Hey, what am
I supposed to do?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I said, damn. I'm like damn. Man Like, well, you
make a lot of sense, you see me?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
So I mean, but since that point, you know what
I mean, my sister being my rock, right, you feel me?
She actually ran my store in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
So when you find this out and your sister all
of a sudden you go your way, you go. Were
you able to still maintain contact or was she just
like distance?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Nah?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You said what you said, you got me and my feelings.
Or were you like, I'm just big bro, I'm just
looking out for you. I'm just trying to be your protector.
I just want to make sure everything's okay. So how
did she handle that?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Nah?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
You know what, man, my sister actually solid as fuck. Though. Yeah,
I'll talk about and uh.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
You know how she played it. It was more like
she knew I was gonna come to the games. She
just made sure she made me feel it, you know
what I mean? Because little brother, we close family. I
feel me, big brother, little little bro, all my cousins shit,
so we all pop out the game.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
She make sure she.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Gets everybody a hugging like, yeah, you know what type
of time it is. So I mean, you know I
felt it and like I said, you know, I mean shit,
that was all we had, right and you feel me
it was something really important because my Mama always told
me for show, like you never take family business outside, right,
And the thing was you feel me?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
So I was. I was.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I was overstepped boundaries and I was out of bounds
on more than just a level of me not not
handling that right with my sister. But shit, I was,
you know, I mean disrespecting mouths too, because I took
family business outside. That's something I and from that point
it was like that shit was mandatory for me, Like
you know, I'm talking about stay on your p's and
(05:59):
q's of what cho you know, I mean, you know
it was more so I'm thinking I'm hurting my sister feelings,
but shit, I was really the one in my feelings.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Right man.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Your sister got married. In fact, you were very, very
involved in this wedding. You planned it, you did everything
that's not normally the role that a brother normally plays.
Why were you so involved in the wedding? Why did
you feel so compelled to become so involved.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Uh, I mean it was a few reasons, and mainly
the biggest reason or why I was is because we
used to play in funerals from where we're from, and
came talking about and the opportunity for uh, you know,
for my sister to get married. That shit was bigger
than shit at lf bigger than life for me at
that point, considering you feel me, Pops just died, right, Uh,
(06:51):
you know, my auntie and one of my closest friends
just died.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And you know what I mean, going to three froneralals,
this was you know, I.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Mean, this was something really to celebrate.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I know, we're supposed to celebrate homegoings because there's no
more pain, no more suffering, but this was such a
joyous occasion considering the road that you and your sister
now all of a sudden, y'all was running walking parallel.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Now you intersect exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
And then when she got at me like.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Because I mean, at first she was gonna have my
uncle walker now, and then she like we walked me
down the aisle and I'm talking about ooh shit, Like
hell yeah, it wasn't no question to me. So then
when she, you know, put that kind of on me.
Then it's like, oh shit, now I man, I get
to walk her now, you know, I mean what you need,
what we need to do, what we need.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
To take here, let's get it done.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I mean I don't, like I said, we don't playing
so many frint erals like.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So this was this was.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Huge considering how close you and your sister are. Had
she gone that path and let her let your uncle
do it, would you have felt some type of way?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Nah?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Hell no, because like I told you, when I say
we're a cloth family, we're a cloth fan, you feel
me got and as close as we are should I
wouldn't have been surprised if she would have called Marcus
Josh real. Yeah, I mean, any any one of us
should I cut because the way we was raised, it
wasn't like this show cut that that's your brother, because
if one go out and one fight, you all fight.
(08:18):
And that was just how we was. So the relationship
that I had with my sister, she got I mean
three brothers, but she really got brother exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
You know how that go. You know how black families are.
Since everybody get married, what's up with you? What's up
with me?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
The marriage your sister tied and knock you. You you
look at.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
The relations I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I don't yeah, we're probably. I don't know about you.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I seen I seen OO just hit you with the
same Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Man, it's trying to marry me.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
All man, you're trying to do trying to I see
this a generational thing.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Bro, you've been bus I mean, this is as I
look at you now and how active you are talkative
compared to where you were in your playing days.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Uh, visit the Armors community. You're doing so much.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Is this who you really were when you played? Or
this is someone that just came up out of a shade.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Nah, To be honest, this this always been me, right.
The opportunities was different, right, I mean in the situation
and the circumstance was different as well. And I mean
it's more so like.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Then it was.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
It was like while I was playing, it wasn't that
I wouldn't talk. It was just it was I just
wouldn't talk to the media. And then I mean, you know,
you take that and make it what you want to get.
They got the painting narrative right, and their narrative was
I don't talk, right.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
So so when did when? When did this this, I
don't talk to the media. You get drafted about to
Buffalo in the first round. You had some success there. Uh,
you go to Obviously you're you're mainly known for what
transpired in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
That's where I think the name Beasts.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Mode and the way you ran, the physical style in
which you played, and the team kind of took on
your personality to lead in the boom because they get it.
They're standing on the sideline, they're watching you run the football.
When did this take place?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
That?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You know what, y'all got narrative and y'all won't paint
me if I say one thing, y'all gonna say I
said something else, and you try to make me look foolish,
So I just don't fool.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Which it was that, I mean, it was more something
like shit, what happened was the first I mean, when
I first got out of jail the first time, it
was like, you know, I'm listening and talking to these individuals,
media guys or whatever. Oh yeah, you're the greatest thing
since sliced bread. Uh, you know, they ain't had nothing
(11:01):
like this since Thurman Thomas and blah blah blahah. I
got it so little trouble had facing adversity, and then
it was like, oh, I knew he was a thug.
It was only a matter of time. But like I'm like, damn,
you feel me, Like.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's not what y'all said.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Just it was the same old fuck last week. I
mean talking about how great it was, okay, no, oh,
But then what it showed me was these were individuals
who I mean probably in their personal life with some bitches,
you know what I mean. And if you're a bitch
in your personal life, then you probably gonna be a
bitch at work. And the thing was, I didn't see
(11:38):
it for what it I didn't see it for what
it really was. But I just knew I didn't fuck
with bitch ass niggas. So if I wouldn't fuck with
you there, I wouldn't fuck with you at work. It
just so happened that we at work.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
We got to intersect and you got that you got
a job to do.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I got a job to.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Do, but you got the opportunity to pay this picture
about me. And I'm not finna go back and forth
with you, because yeah, I mean that was hours very
we had a problem. We go outside, we get down
handle what we handling. Then it's up right, But that
wasn't a situation, and it just got to the point
where that shit just got dragged drug out and Uh,
(12:17):
they had the upper hand on me because they was
gonna go and speak about this shit every week, right.
But then at the end of the day, it wasn't
my concern because it's kind of one of those things
where it's like, I ain't really anyway what you're saying
to me that shit don't it don't it don't make
me eat, It don't make me pissed, nor do it
make me shit, So it don't really concern me too much.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Is that one of the reasons that you got up
out of Buffalo. It had gotten the noise from the
media had gotten so loud that you needed to change
the scenery.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Uh, that was a part of it.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
But shit, I mean the police out there, I mean
they was I get pulled over going to work, I
get pulled over coming from work. I got pulled over
over in the stadium leaving the game. I'm still on
the property of the Buffalo Bills, and I got pulled
over twice in the facility.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It just wasn't it wasn't it wasn't gonna work.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But they heard you be on that hend before you
They was heard you was on that hend.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Before you look this way before fast forward again.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
They ain't know nothing about that much. There ain't nothing
about that nah nah.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
They were still trying to figure out how I got
dread locks? Now, how does hair do that? What? What
kind of hair is that?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
They were still trying to figure that out.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
So, yeah, that wasn't Oh man, I don't ship, but
that's a that's a that's a fuck up feeling.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Me, I go in here, you know, I mean rush
for honey yards two touchdowns, and before I even get
to the street, I'm ship looked up and I see
the billboard on the stadium, the beach Mo billboard hearing yeah,
I mean the player's cars, and behind I see them
(14:05):
cherries and beers with five oh on me talking about
turn off the car that.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Quello you just left the stadium.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
They were just cheer when you had eighty thousand your
cheer report You not.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Even get to the street. That's how serious it was
set up. Uh, you know our pair of personnel, dude,
you know what I mean, Hey, take me down to
the police station. I need to we need to go
higher at the chief or something. We going there, we
sit down, it's like have a meeting or we're gonna
We're gonna.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Figure that out.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
I get pulled over on the way to the game.
Hey man, I just wanted to me and my son
is a huge fan.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Man, you can't do that pulling me over.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I'm on the way to bro you finna worked the game,
Like why are you pulling me over right now to
tell me about your son when you could have just
brought your son to the facility.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
And hey man, I'm a hookie buck.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
What's handling?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Man?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
And it was getting you know, that was around the
time where all of the ship with you know what
I mean, the police whatever was broad and it ain't
nothing that ain't already been happening.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
But now they broadcasting, right, So it's like ship. Every
time I see them cheers and beards behind, I'm trying
to figure out, ship is this the one? It is
this the one?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Like? Man, you feel me? So I you know, give
them my agent, Like, hey, you gotta make something happen
for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So you asked to be moved out of Buffalo. Yeah, yeah,
it was just time.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, that was too much. Hey, hold on, this is uh,
this is my drink these edibles.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Right, yes, yeah, this is my drink. Lat Yes, sir,
I see, I ain't gonna lie to you. That's Shade by Lapotier.
That's me, Shade called me and La Poitier.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Where you're the mega man? Boy? I can I hire you?
You the best salesman have ever seen? Man?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Tell now, you tell the truth? If that's moves or what?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Yeah? That smooth as fuck?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Now you've had that. Yeah, we're gonna get you. We're
gonna get you a couple of bottles up out of here. Yeah,
I mean you might could be an ambassador. You want
to do some work work with me.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
You know, I got my own thing. You got Kanye too.
I got a tequila.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
That what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I got a tequila. I got some truck.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Well shit, I guess that's a different Yeah, different lanes.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, we got different we got two different cars.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
All right, fuck it, that's right.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I'm telling you the best salesman the Cross film in
a long time, do you think.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Because it's hard, I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
We played in Buffalo a lot, but I'm not so
sure that they were used to seeing a whole lot
of guys with dreads and tattoos.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I mean you from.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
West coast, that's upstate yr. So, I mean they know
they're probably thinking you not from here now.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
No, I'm not from there. Well, Eddie Murphy, say you
tell your by the way I walked, I.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Can do the dude country nigga, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah, they knew it though, you feel me, and that
it was crazy because when I got up there, uh
uh you know when they uh that that first what
is called uh that first.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
That pressed off the introduction when yeah, you got the
jersey number one?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You number one?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Hey, what's up? I'm telling man, what's up. I'm gonna
go celebrate all the ship all right. We go down
to a board and they had a Confederate flag hanging out.
My father, my damn. What kind of uh kind of
American flag is this? That's Confederate flag?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
So I'm trying to, hey, let me get some hennessy.
They looking at me like, what the fuck is you
doing in here? Like why you while you in here?
Excuse me?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Like is you lost? Like nah, No, I'm trying to
find some hennessy, y'all, got Hennessy back there.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Look up at that big ass flag like ship. I'm
I mean, like I said, I'm Westcote. That ain't something
big to us out there, right, you feel me? Everybody
come look up again, like, no, we don't got no Hennessy. No,
I see the Hennessy right there. Then I get the message, Oh,
we ain't got no Hendersy for you.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Oh this is white the only liquor. It's white only.
All right, I'm gonna go down the street because I
don't know what the fuck them.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
But it was serious. That Buffalo was serious. But I
mean when I get out in uh, the city of Buffalo,
then it's different because you know, they put you in the.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Suburbs.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, out outside and every But when I get to
the city of Buffalo, now it was different.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Oh yeah, they fucked with me. They love me right now,
and I for show love. But I knew.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
I knew Buffalo was different when I came out there
and it god damn negative zero degrees and boy ain't
had no damn shirt on with the bills rolled across
his belly. I said, ah, yeah, they different? Are they different?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Are they different? For show?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
They jumping off the goddamn things all I said, Oh yeah,
they they enjoying themself out here.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I'm looking at you and you tatted. How old were
you when you got your first tattoo?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Uh? Thirteen?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Did your mom know about it? Moms took me, she
took you. Yeah, so you said, so, how did this
conversation go? You're like, Mom, you know, I think I
want to get a tattoo.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
And she says, well, it's your birthday.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Is that simple?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
It's your birthday?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I mean, you know, moms was what they call progressive.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
You my mom's I mean, I don't know if you
met my moms or seen my mom, but my mom
coming with the ship right yeah. So I mean you
know it wasn't like yeah, I mean she was thinking,
you know, ahead of time, like there's gonna be something,
you know what I mean, your damn hands, your neck?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
All that, she probably wasn't thinking that far, but as
far as like, you know, being there and being supportive
for your kids, yeah, she was.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
That right for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So you got your first tattoo?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
What was it?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
I got a tourist a little bull on my arm right?
Cover it up now though, But that was my first one,
and that.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Was the doctrination of the tattoos. Did you did you
know from that first tattoo that you like, yeah, it's
gonna be more theise.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
No, you know it.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
To be honest with you, every tattoo is my It
feels like my first tattoo, and in my mind while
I'm getting it, it's my last one. So everyone I
got is my first and my last tattoo. And then
somehow I just keep in there with morties.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
You had a favorite quote.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
You say, Hey, you told NFL players take care of
your chickens. I say, take care of I'll save your
money because this ish do not last forever. No, sir,
why did you feel that was such an important and
a profound statement for you to make at that time?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Right then and there?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I mean, you know, because when I retired with two
or three times that so shit.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I just remember.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
It was when I first came in the league and
they financial advisor was putting up all these names of
all these great players. And at that time, you know
what I mean, if he playing the NFL, you're the
richest person on earth. Yeah, And he put up all
these names and I'm looking at him like, man, I'm
thinking like, oh he got an all star rostering all bankrupt,
(21:22):
and I'm like, oh shit, hold on these some of
the people, Yeah, I look up to who I would
think like set for forever, right all right? And then
after I you know, I mean, I went to the
writers and I come in the locker room and I
heard some of the young bulls.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
They was in there chopping it up about you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yeah, I got man, I got bread and how they were,
you know, I mean comparing who had more bread was.
They'll talk about Yeezys like man, I got the Yeezies
some some some oh nigga, ain't shit. I got the
Yeezy from when he had did the ones with Nike.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
And I'm like, damn. They comparing Yeezies on how they
got bred.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
And I'm thinking, like, I just closed on my my
restaurant and went went to Escrow and I'm like, well
fuck if they got bread and they.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeezy is.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
And then I just bought, you know what I mean,
my building, my my my second building. I'm like, then
where the fuck am I at? So Antley, I go
over there, I holler at him and I kicked game
with him on you know, some situations and like damn
O G. And when they said that, like oh, I
kind of felt it on me, you know what I
mean to you know what I mean to get a
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little young.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Bulls some ASTHM.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Same thing when I had got back to Seattle that
round and it was like I knew, I knew I
was on not gonna say my way out, but I
knew it wasn't no coming back for me this time, right,
And I mean gave me an opportunity, and I mean realistically,
the last the last thing that you would give from
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me while I was in the league with basically telling
the younger generation and coming up little little ship to
take care of you know what I mean. For when
you're done, you like you were just saying a little earlier,
you're going over here doing the ship with the amishit
I mean now you just living life and enjoying shit
after you don't put in so much time at work.
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When you're done, you should be able to reward yourself
with whatever it is that you want to do. Make
sure you take care of what you need to so
when you come to that time, you can do that.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Did you ever think when you came into the league
that you would be that wise elder statement statesman that
was passing on that info that you was gonna be
the OG.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Nah, because we all, you know, and when we come in,
we all I'm gonna be doing this forever. But I mean,
you know, uh, my situation was a little different because
you know, I mean, Barry was my my was my God.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Barry had ten and.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
I'm thinking in my mind, like, hey, if I could
get ten, then I'm straight. So I mean Bear Sanders, Okay,
So I kind of had that ten year you know
what I mean, Mark, which I feel would have been
a solid career for me, right, and I mean without
without putting, you know, too much brain power behind it
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as I'm going, you know what I mean. And then
as I started getting older, I started getting better. Like, damn,
you know what I mean. Now it's easy because now
I got a program, you know what I mean, I
know how.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
To training, program, eating program, the whole Nah.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It just made this shit easy.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Oh you know what I mean, Maybe I'll just go
ahead and let this run, you know what I'm talking about. So,
I mean, you know, but I never thought that I
would end up being the og that the youngsters would
call like, you know what I mean, let me get
some as put me on with something OJ. But when
I did, it was like shit, it ain't no, it
ain't no different because I mean where I where I
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was at, I always stayed in a position to where
I was giving back, so you know what I mean,
when it came time to do it in the NFL,
I had already had a little you know, I mean
a little work at it.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Right, Who is the guy for you that when you
got into the league kind of took you under their wings,
so they did decide your villa like ooh shit.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
It was a lot of them.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
I mean, you know, I got blessed over there in Buffalo,
I had a lot of I had a lot of OG's.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
That's when the league was still you know, I mean
value veterans. Yeah, so I got to play under that.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
But I mean, you know, out of all of them,
when I think about it, just in terms of you know,
I mean keeping my keeping my business right, was would
probably be Brad Butler. He he, I don't know why.
He just was a dude who stuck out to me.
When I think back to why I did some of
the shit that I did, and he was a big
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part of that.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Right, Yeah, you've been in black, you invest heavily, you
were able to. I heard you say, you say you saved. Yeah,
you said that you saved a lot of your money.
That the money that you spent was you know, endorsements, cards,
signing appearances, that the book in your contract, that that
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the bills, the Seahawks and the raidar pager stashed that away. Yeah.
Did you always have that mindset for saving for a
rainy day or did you acquire that over the years.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
No, I came in like that.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
But that was the part of the reason why I said,
Brad Butler was probably one of the biggest influences on
that situation with me. Like I was saying, the first
meeting that they had with the financial advisory, you put
up all them names, and I seen that, right, I
damn there, fell asleep throughout this whole meeting until I seen,
until I heard him, until.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
The name popped up there. Because that's familiarity.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I know, I know, I know the people how they
play all them years, make all that money, and they
ain't got no money now nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
So now it's reality to you.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
So now I'm holing that telling him like, hey, you know,
can you run that? He like, financial advisor? Tell me
basically like Marshan, you just slept through my whole meeting. Bro,
So now you want me to give you a whole presentation.
I said, Now, I don't want you give me a
whole shit. I just want you to help me not
become one of them players on the board.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Right, Okay, So we part.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Ways and I tell Brad Butler I'm talking to him like, yeah, bro,
you feel me? He said, Man, their financial advisor is good.
Like okay, well, I'm like how much money you got
with him? You're like no, Like, you know, my family
come from from money and we got our own financial advisor.
I'm like, well, shit, how can I talk to your
financial advisory?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
He laughed at me.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
I'm gonna Shane, you don't make enough money. You mean
I don't make enough money. I was just the first
round and ship. Really yeah, we got we got generational money.
You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Right? That you got, Man, you wouldn't even be able
to get a meeting with my guy. But this guy
is good.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
That's why I'm telling me, right, Like all right, that's cool.
So then as we chopping it up. He kind of
threw something at me just about you know, learning, because
you know I got drafted what uh at twenty draft
was the twenty first, and I or the twenty second,
you know, the twenty third, and I got drafted my
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birthday on the twenty second, and I think the draft was.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
On the twenty first.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
So I'm like, man, I don't shit, I don't even
know how to I mean, realist, realistic. We spend money, right,
I mean I know how to take it out of
my pocket and give it to somebody.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But but did you have a checking account at that time?
Did you have did you ever? Had you ever gone
through the band?
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Had my little college where they put my my my scholarship,
Yeah I had that. But you know what I mean,
I should realisticly, I walk around with my uh with
my signing bonus on me for at least like three weeks.
I have my signing bonus own because I ain't no
because I ain't on no banks and all that kind
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of ship like that. So he like, one shine, it'd
probably be it'll probably be good. Uh you know, if
he has somebody help you want your money? This that
and the third Okay, well, I know another financial advisor
that I talked to that I'm pretty I'm like, shire, well,
I'm gonna just have one over here, and I give
all of my money that I make off the field,
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I just put it over here, and the money that
I make on the field, I put it over here.
And then any kind of questions I got, or if
some shit pop up, I'll just cross reference asks one,
asks one about something and I don't understand that, I
go and drop some words over to this financial advisor
and look at what how the fuck you know that?
But anyway, let me give you some game on it. So,
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I mean that was the way that I worked it too.
I had my off the field money in one account,
my own the field money with a different financial advisor.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I mean, no, bro, you got the cleats. You can
see the cleats right there.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You got a cell phone, you gotta blender, You you
gotta bike, you gotta you gotta blender, you got you
gotta bike, you got cleats, you got cell phones?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Yeah, bro, I got the hook up high.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
So what what made you become so entrepreneurial? Were you
always as a kid?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Were you like this?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Did you have a lemonade stand? Did you more graphs.
Did you did you fixed bicycles? I mean when did
you develop this entrepreneurial skill?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Well, I mean ships, straight hustle about to say you
hate hustling them players and hustlers man, and yeah, I
mean just being in that environment alone. Like if you
don't pick up nothing, then you you you dead. Wait,
remove yourself, you get out the way in this. I mean,
there's so much shit going on. If you can't learn something,
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then you got to be trying that on purpose, because
I mean just to like, I mean, you know, my
my my situation was, I've always liked learning, but it
was hard for me to learn, and I didn't know
how to be cause I couldn't sit down and read
no book, you know what I mean. That wasn't the
way that I was gonna learn nothing. I couldn't sit
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in no class learn no classroom.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
And learn nothing. But for whatever, are you a visual learner?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I'm a visual and I'm gonna do this shit learner.
So when I go out the streets and I see
them doing it, but I have to do it myself
in order.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
To actually get a grasp of it.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Okay, I mean, so as I started to you know what,
I mean as I grew, I mean, did different ships
so there so that you know what I mean, got
into this, got into that, okay, and then shit just
you know, I mean it was it was working and
shit stuck right and then I mean, you know, uh
we as we As I look back on it now,
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it's like, well, shit, you got drafted at twenty So
I mean, you know, after high school, graduated high school
with seventeen eighteen years old, it's really like two three
years of really just trying to figure it out on
your own before I got drafted. And now it's like, okay,
now we gotta now, we gotta uh, we gotta last,
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not come in last. So I mean, you know, the
mind switch had had changed. But I mean, you know,
as much as much credit azed I would like to
take for this shit, you know, I mean, I really had.
I was blessed with the team around me. And I
mean when I say the team around me, it's number one,
you know, I mean, uh, from the financial team to
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my agent, you know what I mean. But it was
really my family though, because they pushed me in ways
to be to be great and which I didn't even
know that they were doing. And I don't even know
if they knew that they were doing it right. But
the way that we held each other accountable was different
than how you know, I've seen most athletes and people
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be around them. I didn't have a bunch of yes
men or dou boys around me. I didn't. I didn't
have that shit. I had motherfuckers tell me, like nigga,
you tripping. Even in the situations to where I did
fuck up, I make sure I get them out the
way because I knew that that was my decision right
to fuck up. Now when I see them, yeah, they
gonna let me have it, That's the same way I
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would do to them, right. So we all held each
other accountable for that, and I mean, you know, I
think it turned out pretty good for us. I got
a cousin that's still playing over in Baltimore this but
damn this, Josh, about what thirteenth, fourteenth year in the league.
Then I got another cousin playing for the Raiders, who
all we was all in that same circle, and we
all did that to each other. And to see that
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going the individuals who behind the scenes was the ones
who really pushing right.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I'm how much has your team changed over the years?
Have they it has it been interchangeable.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
The rock, The rock is the rock.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Man. That's why realistically I've been blessed. I can honestly
say that I have been blessed.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I never changed financial advisors, ain't fired no agent.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
And then as far as my family, everybody, I mean,
shit is I mean you have fallout some you know,
you drop some here and there, but the core of
the core.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Still the core.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
You ownership group of the USL Chap soccer team or
the Oakland roofs uh SC investor in mm A Professional
fighting league, you have fl you have back.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
But yeah, man, you got a lot of irons in
the fire. You talked about me selling back.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Man, if if you sit back, you feel me.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
When my boy j Stalin said, he said, you got
two ears and one mouth for a reason, and I
believe that.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Listen, pay attention. It ain't so bad. It might work
out for you.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
When brands come to beef mode, they come to Marshall Lynch,
what some of the must have in your contract for
it to make sense to you?
Speaker 4 (35:19):
You said some of the must have must have.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
This got to be included or it doesn't it doesn't
make sense to me.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Well, nah, man, I'm a fair guy. I'm a fair guy.
Some of the things in which I do. I do.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Any deal that I get, I try and maximize it
to where I'm not the only person that eat off
the deal. And then, like you said, I have, you know,
a lot of irons on the fire in that situation
when I think about it.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Okay, I have a production company.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
So if somebody coming they want to do some type
of media shit, okay, well hire my production team, all right.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I got a stylist in here, all right, hire them
to get me, right, and we go from there.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Security team, Okay, well, we want to make sure we
secure the premises, so we got to do that. I
got a restaurant, so therefore a we need catering. Wet
rock were donna rock like that. So any way that
there is an opportunity for me to bring on any
of the other businesses that I have, then I'm gonna
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do that for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Like that, that was like a three sixty you a
U C B. You got to see you got to
see him him or that.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
I mean, most of the time, you're gonna see me
with the with the same individuals, right, and so therefore
that it's it's just like, I mean, I'm gonna push
for that, but I mean, you know, at the same time,
I understand, Yeah, I mean I understand the business to
some point where that that might not just that just might.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Not work right.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, But I mean, but if you got to if
you got to have those, if you're gonna do catering.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I gotta. I got I got a restaurant. I'm indicator
in business.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
I rather eat this ship anyway. You's gonna go get
me some of them old sloppy ass sandwiches with held
of mayonnaggs. I don't get down. Like, what we're gonna
do is we're gonna have auntie them come and bring
them greens, you know what I mean, the red beans
and rice.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, you feel what I'm talking. We got there, Yeah,
we got ox hell for sure.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
Like that.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Come on now, man, it's just the truth. This ain't
made up.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
You got a clothing brand, Beef Mode, and on Super
Bowl media day you had the Beef Bowl gear old
but you told her you was just there so you
didn't get fired.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
That was it.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
That was it.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
But I was probably up to about at that point
in time, I was probably up to about one point
two and finds what Yeah, because they what they did was.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
They started doubling it on you.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
They put the squeeze on me, and then they went
back to the year the year before that. Oh you
left out of the the before the hold hold on
this game.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
So we we on your head. Let me get an astractions.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Holdo. So you at the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Now they're gonna retroactively go back and say, you know what,
now that we think about it, you've missed some other
appearances that were about to tax you on. Yes, sir,
so did you have a conversation Commission Goodell? Did you
have a conversation with Commission Man.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Goodell, Adafo Birch, my agent uh D Maurice Smith. Oh no,
they are Yeah, they was all on there and see
I was so you know what I mean, I'm I'm big,
I'm bad, anti this, anti that, and they sitting there
telling me, we're not telling you you got to talk more, Sean,
We're just telling you got to make yourself available.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
So that can't pay attention because I'm so mad.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Talking to no media, y'all trying to make me talk,
trying to make me this, trying to Marsham, You're not
trying to make you talk. We just want you to
make yourself available. You had to tell me that shit
like three or four times, and then it finally clicked,
like and then I think I heard like some little
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whisper that just gave me the cheat cob. Oh shit,
they saying, oh, they just haven't got to be available.
I don't got to talk. I'm like, oh shit, I
ain't all right, cool, cool, cool, I try to play
it all year, Yeah, all right, whatever whatever the phrase
you was telling me already, and I thought i'd heard
something special, but they been trying to tell you this
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for a minute, for a minute. But that's how you
know when you when you're in your mind, and I mean,
you ain't really trying to hear him like that.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
It'll go right over your head.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So the phrase I'm just here so I don't get
fast when did was that spot on?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Or did you have the word? You're thinking about that?
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Nah? As I'm sitting there, I'm just I don't know
what the hell going. I don't know how this is
Finna play out, I don't know what's Finna pop. And
as I'm going out there, Sharon asked me, well, what
you're gonna do, I'll tell him. I'm gonna tell you
what I'm not. I'm not gonna get fine. So when
I got up there and it was just like you
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know what I mean at that point in times like well,
you know, Ship, I'm asking myself, well, what are you
gonna do? Like shit, I'm well, you here, you did
what you needed to do. Oh I'm I'm just here
so I won't get fine. So it was just a
true statement. That's the only reason why I was sitting
down at this sea. I'm making myself available.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I ain't got nothing to say to y'all though.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
That's it. That was it. It was the truth.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
You you you were the grill king. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
You might have been one of the first guys to
well grilling. Were you first got a well grilling it man?
Speaker 5 (40:52):
You know, Edge was the one who right Edge got
man it hed all go flaid, man, I'm telling you,
you know what I mean. And then it was you
know what I mean, because like I said, I'm I'm
West coast. So when you see it like oh the
niggas over there where, it goes too like oh they
got grills and hell this shit too.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
But you feel me. They are mine. I could you know,
put in and take out and they ship might have
been permit so you feel me out?
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Oh yeah they oh ship. They got real niggas everywhere.
And then I'm watching Edge do it on on something
like Edge had the locks too, and he was a
cold I'm talking cold.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
I appreciate it. Yeah, so man, but I mean as
far as like you know what I mean, that was
somebody who I say, like, it can be done because
you could be yourself right, it can be done.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Right because Edge says that I lost out on a
lot of money because they wanted me to dish the
locks and ditch the grill.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
And I'm like, nah, this me this Edge Right.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Did anybody ever approach you and say, hey, Mark, y'all
you know, hey, you get that little cut, you know,
get to get to get the wife, go.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
In and ate be straight?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Yeah I did, Coach Tefford. Oh at cal yep, look
at your hair. You got this gold teeth in your
fucking mouth. You fucking sag your pants? Like what are you?
I'm me? You mean what I'm me?
Speaker 5 (42:32):
So we we head button clashing, and you know what
I mean? He sooner or later found out that yeah,
he wasn't lying. He is him and that's that's what
he's gonna do.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
That's who he is.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
I say, Bro, you worried about my hair, and my said, brother,
I got a three point two g p A at
CAM I show up to work every day and.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I'm giving you a hunter of the game?
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Man?
Speaker 5 (42:56):
What what?
Speaker 4 (42:57):
So? What's wrong with what I got going on? You?
You prefer I don't do that. But the truth is
the truth. I'm me.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
I mean, I ain't never had a three point two.
I ain't never had a three point on in my life,
and I got a three point two at the University
of California, Berkeley.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
Man, you couldn't tell me shit. You couldn't tell me.
I thought I was the smartest, most three point two
at calv yep.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
So how many grills do you think you've had over
your career?
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Man? I done had a few.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Shit any speciales?
Speaker 4 (43:38):
I say, plus ten plus?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
What's the most special grill that you've got?
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Uh? The ones I got now because they ain't going nowhere?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh they locked?
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Yeah, them in there, them ain't going nowhere. Them ain't
going No.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
So when you said you walked around with your signing
bonus for almost three weeks check on cash.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
When you finally cast a check. What was the first purchase,
big purchase he got?
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Hmm, The first was mom's house.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Okay, got mama crib, got Mom's house.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
And I mean, you know, the real estate in Buffalo
was pretty cheap. I got something nice and I mean,
you know the but I mean, to be honest with you, uh,
you know my first year when I got when I
I mean, my check, the biggest purchase I was going
that that I'll say I was spending was we was
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we was we was cleaning up ship. Yeah, I mean
my brother had just went to jail. So you know
what I mean, Bill and lawyer fees, a lot of
lawyer feeds, lot a lot of lawyers, a lot of
lawyer fees.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
I mean you know, he did what he did, got
passed it. Yeah, I mean you know I had mine
as well. So that was that was my biggest purchase.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
But along the way of all of this shit that
was going on, and one of the main things that
kept me, I say, what is it they use a
word for it, cheap.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Che was I'm like, man, I'll never I'll never.
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Have to eat top Ramen noodles again unless I want to, right,
And like I said, I didn't know what spending money
really was, so I'm thinking, you know what I mean,
you taking honey, you gonna bust that down.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
That shit gone.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
So that's how I'm thinking every time, you know, motherfucker
Spencer mud, that it's gonna be gone. So you know,
I mean, I was holding on this ship like you
know what I mean. I got drafted in two thousand
and seven. I didn't buy my house till like two
thousand and thirteen, fourteen something.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Like that, So I mean, you know I was. I was.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
I was really trying to hold on to my shit,
make my shit last, right, I mean I remember, I
mean I was playing with Oh jeez, you feel me
there that that old school loan money and we'll go
out and go shopping.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
They going to Gucci at the Lowis Story, you know
what I mean, spending five hundred and fifty dollars on
some and I'm like, how Jordan's won twin. I'm trying
to feel me. I'm trying to find a jug on them,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
And I remember probably like my third year, and the
lead was I bought my first pair of Gucci shoes
and I had the motherfuckers.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I said to you about ten years.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
You hell on to the plane.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
And I'm telling you, oh my pride and joy, pride
and joy, because I thought if I spent the money,
I was gonna be broke again.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
And I'm like, I ain't, I ain't going to that. Man.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
I'm looking at you on the eighty six Honda Civic
Anato to Yoda Prias with millions millions in that cap
eighty six a cord no.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Man, man telling whoever gave you that, telling they full
formed you with that. No. I had a Toyota Corsica
I had.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I mean that that's worse than the city. You should
have rolled. You should have rolled with the city.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
And that corsica, man, that was my thing. Boy, that
thing was giving me pointing at a point B and
solid we break. That thing all the way up and
down the street was sliding at me. I'm telling you, oh, man,
you drifted in a Corsica, drifted that motherfucker like Tokyo
telling they should have came and got me for the
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fast and furious.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
We were talking earlier.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
You got three three spots, you got one oak Town
got one in Vegas, you got one in Hawaiian What
made you decide to get a place in Hawaii?
Speaker 4 (47:52):
The Pro Bowl? Yeah, I mean when I went out
there the first time I seen the the you know
they keep you on the resources.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah, yeah, I had a.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
Yes, sir, yes, yeah, So y'all so thank you, cause
y'all set up the whole little get damn force from
when we got there. Yeah, I mean, they was having
all these cars and everything, but uh, I don't know,
did take them long? So if we called a taxi
and the taxi driver we got e Piney. I remember
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her like it was yesterday.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
She took us, Uh, you know the downtown wake and
uh on the way out there, you know what I mean,
like you know pany you know, my family trying to
get some bud. All right, cool, We slide through the
hood out there.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
Hell was ship.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Oh it was nice.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
But I'm looking at.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
They live in conditions, and I'm looking at the people,
and no matter where we went, they were all happy.
I'm talking about happy with just living life. And I
could respect that. And uh, I think they Uh the
my cousin was playing for the Rams, I think at
(49:07):
the time, and they had a game out there, and
I went out there and uh, I'm like, you know what, man,
I'm gonna look at some properties after the game. You know,
I went and rolled around and shit, seen some nice shit.
But I went to a north shore. Okay, this helling
nice over here country, you know what I mean? What
(49:27):
I get out looking around wasn't nobody you know what
I mean, worried or bothering me. If somebody recognized me,
they threw up the deuce. I threw it back and
kept it pushing.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Oh yeah. They just happy with living life. So that
was how that spot came about. Real talk.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
So you get over there just to get away, kick
your heels up. Everybody just just living.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Life, just living life.
Speaker 5 (49:48):
And it's a good spot to have for you know
what I mean, The family need to get away for
a minute. Go ahead and kick back.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
You in the restaurant business, Rob's Ben's restaurant, What do
you what is your home cooking?
Speaker 2 (50:01):
What you guys, sir? Uh?
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Soul soul food, seafood.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
So, So if I go, if I go to if
I go to a rob a restaurant, Yeah, what should
I order?
Speaker 4 (50:14):
You said? What should you order? Me? I like, to get.
I like to get. I'm not sure what what you
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
I'm allergic to shellfish, but I like if I go
to a different spots, spot like yours.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
I'm a sampler. So give me some of this. Give
me the.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Oxtail, so yeah, you give me the you know, the
turkey nag, give me the you know fried.
Speaker 5 (50:32):
You're gonna be job. Yeah, but ship there you go
there you you feel me? The way it is is
you feel me? You you you tell Auntie? Uh yeah,
I mean you like something that she don't got on.
I mean what she gonna do is she gonna have
somebody to go get it, and then she's gonna ask
you how you want it.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
You gotta get hollow. That's how you read.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
Yeah, yeah, I mean the restaurant is it's a it's
a staple in the community. Right. The lady that I
bought it from had it for about thirty years, right,
and she was ready to go.
Speaker 5 (51:06):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
So you know when I acquired it. You know, the
name rob Beans come from my uh, from my cousin
who got a who got killed. So you feel me.
Speaker 5 (51:17):
I named it Rob Bens the memory of him. I
mean it was it was a staple in our community.
So you know, I mean for him to live on. Yeah,
I mean that's how we got the name. But yeah,
if you're looking for some and it ain't in there
until gonna make it happen. I mean all the way
down to the desserts.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
So what's the desserts. I like desserts.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
You don't take my laptose field before going the gonumb pudding.
Speaker 4 (51:45):
For sure, Peach cobb, chocolate cake, lemon cake, the whole nine.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Man. I need to get on that where you said
that that's a dope town. I need to go on
down there. You have your own line of cannabis, Doddy
Doty Doughty pre rolls.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
Yeah, it fuels diamond diamond fields pre rolls.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah, blow like a champ.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
This bad here, hold o, this bad guy bloodness pre rolls.
He got a tequila, he got cleats, he got a
clothing line.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (52:21):
I'm trying to do some little shit little yeah. But
the thing is realistically as silly as it's said. It
ain't for me, you know what I mean, what it
is for is for it, you know, I mean the
younger generation who in it, like it can be done,
you know, I mean I liked it.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
I got this foul.
Speaker 5 (52:39):
I like the press play did the idea? You press
play on it? Let it come to life. The most
you could say is it didn't work out right. And
at the end of the day, if you don't never
tried shit, you don't never know.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
You don't know if it could have worked, you don't.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
So I tried see how it go.
Speaker 6 (53:01):
Talk?
Speaker 2 (53:01):
What age did you start smoking weed?
Speaker 5 (53:06):
What age I started smoking weed? So it damn when
we lived when Dame lived with us, mm hmmm, dang
came and stay with us.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
It was about you're talking about Dame Lillard, right, No,
nah nah dang down there but you but you down
the street?
Speaker 4 (53:22):
Yeah, dang down the street. Uh, my cousin Dang. Uh
he came to live with probably like eighth ninth grade. Ah.
I first tried it, but getting into it, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 5 (53:34):
When I when I figured out how how it was
helping me, You feel me recover and get my body right.
It was probably uh started really blowing heavy, probably like
uh in the senior year in high school.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Have you talked to commissioner? Have you talked to anybody
about the benefits of cannabis? Because I Ricky Waters got it,
Ricky Ricky Waters, Ricky Williams got in trouble. There have
been a lot of guys that's lost, some game checks,
some suspend you know, suspended. Yes, and now you see
the turn towards Malwana. That is not the stigma it
(54:16):
once was. Right, have you been have you talked to
anybody in the NFL offenses? Hey, let me y'all need
to do some more research on this thing, because I
think they're more benefit than downside.
Speaker 5 (54:26):
Well not to that extent, but I mean, you know,
I've been in the program a few times and you know,
I mean I had to you know, I mean tell
my my side of the story, right and what the
case may be, and so I mean from from that angle,
and then you know, dealing with uh, you know, the
trainers in the league more so because they want to know, okay,
so what do you do? Because they want to figure
(54:46):
out how you go out here and run the way
you run and then be able to do it again,
you know, I mean weekend and week out right, And
I mean you know as well, you know, you kind
of want to hold it from then it's like all right,
well look man, that's what I do.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
I get down, I blow me some bud. You know,
feel me, put me in a relaxed state of mind.
You feel me.
Speaker 5 (55:05):
So then when I go and do you know what
I mean, my body work besides just where I'm in
the float tank, whether I'm doing you know, ice bath
I mean, or just all the shit is just put
me in a state of mind where I'm psyching myself out.
You know, I feel me mind over matter type shit.
Speaker 4 (55:21):
And you know what I mean. For the career, It's like.
Speaker 5 (55:25):
You have windows, you know what I mean, and as
long as you keep it within those windows, then you
you know, you be all right right. So I mean,
just just that type of mindset, it helped. And then
you know those windows when you have to turn it down,
you know, I mean you not, I'm not in a
position where I'm where I'm banging in my recovery time.
(55:47):
I don't have to be yeah, feel me here. So
it's like, Okay, I can cool on this, and I
can you know, indulge more into getting into the swimming pool,
you know, I mean band workouts or whatever, because like
I said, even with with that mindset fore me, I'm
trying to last and I come in last. I know,
I need to take care of my body. So how
do I you know, I mean maintain that?
Speaker 2 (56:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (56:09):
So that you played a very physical style of football,
which is not conducive for lasting, right, I mean, you
look at the guys that played the style. I'm old
enough to remember Earl Campbell. I was a kid with
Earl Campbell and he played a very similar style, and
after about seven eight years, he just couldn't take it.
(56:30):
How were you able to bang like that game in
and game out, year in and year out, and do
it over and over again?
Speaker 2 (56:38):
Peace?
Speaker 4 (56:39):
Man?
Speaker 5 (56:40):
It was like I said, it was extensive, an extensive
recovery process. And then what help was? I found out
like a lot of you know what I mean, this
is when you get into you know, dB started getting
a lot of money where they was.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Turning you know, I mean, they're making business decisions.
Speaker 5 (57:00):
Business decisions. So it wasn't as you know, I mean,
I was, you know, taking more hits than I was giving.
So when you on the you know, the the receiver
end to getting hit, that's you know what I mean,
that's when you really feel it. But when you're giving it,
you don't feel it as much. And then you know,
like I said that that that dopamine and prochions and neutrons,
(57:21):
that that ship releasing your brain, and I think that.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
Shit help as well, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (57:27):
So I mean more scientific reason for this, And the
more I think about it, it was like the harder
I ran, the better I felt.
Speaker 4 (57:37):
After the game.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
Did you go into the game trying to make people
turn it down? Did you know that you could break
someone's will? Because that's what football is in it's at
its core, it's about breaking the man. It's about intimidation.
It's about breaking another man's will because I've got to
move a man against his will. You got to move
that DL. You got to get him up off that
plot of layer. You got to get that back up
off off your beat.
Speaker 4 (57:58):
And that's real talk.
Speaker 5 (57:59):
And I mean, and you know that the mindset was
more and so like, yeah, I mean, you can hit
me once, you can hit me twice, But if you
gonna want to do that ship for four quarters and
nine times thirty time a game, nine times out of
ten they don't want that. Nine times out of ten
defensive guys did not want that.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
Well, you a talker?
Speaker 4 (58:19):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (58:20):
Did you talk back? Hey, you, you saw you, and
you don't want no to this. Even if they talked
to you, you didn't say anything.
Speaker 5 (58:27):
Because they knew it was up with me. You know,
you had guys that were try with me and they
feel it and then it's all respect.
Speaker 4 (58:35):
Respect dog.
Speaker 5 (58:38):
It was more about it, you know, I mean, don't
talk about it, be about it. You're talking ship to
me then you know for a fact, then we got
a bang. We have to because it ain't nowhere around that.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
So now you're looking for it. You talk you, I'm
looking for you. Now, I'm gonna go out of my
way to fire. I bank got a five yard game
over here, but if I see you, I'm gonna get
that fired through you.
Speaker 5 (58:57):
I'm gonna come and take two just to hit your
ass because the next time it's gonna turn into seven.
It was chess, right, it was chess, and I was
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Speaker 4 (01:25):
Look, man, I'm gonna tell you straight up, I don't
fuck with you. Feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
So you didn't met with who I didn't fuck with
with Pink and then I mean, you know Rustler like
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Speaker 1 (02:01):
Hello, welcome to another edition of Club Sha Shay. I
am your hole Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud of
Club Shasha. And the guy that's stopping by for conversation
on the drink today is a Super Bowl champ.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
He's a five time Pro Bowler.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
He's a two time NFL rushing touchdown leader, a two
time All, two time Pro Bowl player. He's a member
of the twenty ten All Decade ten team. He's an entrepreneur,
entertainment superstar, TV personality, actor, national treasure. He's here just
so he doesn't get fined. Beastmoe Marshawn Lynk, bro, how
you doing good? Did I get all did I get
(02:33):
all over it?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
In?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Is anything I left off?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Man? Yeah? You did?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Okay, we'll go ahead. Give it to me what we
leave off man?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
International player? Okay, you said this my camera?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Thatw's your camera.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Okay, let me do it self, Champ.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, we're good to go down. We're good to go
live and riding. You've been very busy since hanging up
the cleats. We're gonna get to your your football career
and your playing days. But you did a movie and
it's called Bottoms, and you took a role in honor
for your sister because you said you wanted to write
a wrong Explain to our audience what you mean by that?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh man?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
You know, uh ship in high school? Uh you know
it's little birds chirping and ship and uh it come
up you it come past my you know what I mean,
my locker, You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
My sister was a was gay or whatever it's song.
And at the time, I'm like, man, what the fuck?
I'm running around looking for my sister. And then when
I found her, I kind of got at her in
a in a way, in a manner which you know
wasn't right right, And I know I kind of made
my sister feel bad. And I mean, you know, me
(03:44):
and my sister went through like a little rocky time.
You know, she was in college playing and ship. I'll
pop up to the games, I mean, and she wouldn't
uh you know, I wouldn't even holler at me.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
So you feel me. I just you know what I mean,
as I as I as I grew.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So how were you when you first found this? When
you first the bird started chirping, you started?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I was about sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Is she older or younger than you?
Speaker 5 (04:09):
She younger than me? Okay, you know what I mean?
And you feel me. I'm a protector and my sister
got at me like, hey, look check this out. I
can't have no I can't hand no boys talking to me.
I can't talk to no girls. Like, Hey, what am
I supposed to do?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I said, damn. I'm like damn. Man Like, well, you
make a lot of sense, you see me?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
So I mean, but since that point, you know what
I mean, my sister being my rock, right, you feel me?
She actually ran my store in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
So when you find this out and your sister all
of a sudden you go your way, you go. Were
you able to still maintain contact or was she just
like distance?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Nah?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You said what you said, you got me and my feelings.
Or were you like, I'm just big bro, I'm just
looking out for you. I'm just trying to be your protector.
I just want to make sure everything's okay. So how
did she handle that?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Nah?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
You know what, man, my sister actually solid as fuck. Though. Yeah,
I'll talk about and uh.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
You know how she played it. It was more like
she knew I was gonna come to the games. She
just made sure she made me feel it, you know
what I mean? Because little brother, we close family. I
feel me, big brother, little little bro, all my cousins shit,
so we all pop out the game.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
She make sure she.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Gets everybody a hugging like, yeah, you know what type
of time it is. So I mean, you know I
felt it and like I said, you know, I mean shit,
that was all we had, right and you feel me
it was something really important because my Mama always told
me for show, like you never take family business outside, right,
And the thing was you feel me?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
So I was. I was.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I was overstepped boundaries and I was out of bounds
on more than just a level of me not not
handling that right with my sister. But shit, I was,
you know, I mean disrespecting mouths too, because I took
family business outside. That's something I and from that point
it was like that shit was mandatory for me, Like
you know, I'm talking about stay on your p's and
(05:59):
q's of what cho you know, I mean, you know
it was more so I'm thinking I'm hurting my sister feelings,
but shit, I was really the one in my feelings.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Right man.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Your sister got married. In fact, you were very, very
involved in this wedding. You planned it, you did everything
that's not normally the role that a brother normally plays.
Why were you so involved in the wedding? Why did
you feel so compelled to become so involved.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Uh, I mean it was a few reasons, and mainly
the biggest reason or why I was is because we
used to play in funerals from where we're from, and
came talking about and the opportunity for uh, you know,
for my sister to get married. That shit was bigger
than shit at lf bigger than life for me at
that point, considering you feel me, Pops just died, right, Uh,
(06:51):
you know, my auntie and one of my closest friends
just died.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And you know what I mean, going to three froneralals,
this was you know, I.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Mean, this was something really to celebrate.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I know, we're supposed to celebrate homegoings because there's no
more pain, no more suffering, but this was such a
joyous occasion considering the road that you and your sister
now all of a sudden, y'all was running walking parallel.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Now you intersect exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
And then when she got at me like.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Because I mean, at first she was gonna have my
uncle walker now, and then she like we walked me
down the aisle and I'm talking about ooh shit, Like
hell yeah, it wasn't no question to me. So then
when she, you know, put that kind of on me.
Then it's like, oh shit, now I man, I get
to walk her now, you know, I mean what you need,
what we need to do, what we need.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
To take here, let's get it done.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I mean I don't, like I said, we don't playing
so many frint erals like.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So this was this was.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Huge considering how close you and your sister are. Had
she gone that path and let her let your uncle
do it, would you have felt some type of way?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Nah?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Hell no, because like I told you, when I say
we're a cloth family, we're a cloth fan, you feel
me got and as close as we are should I
wouldn't have been surprised if she would have called Marcus
Josh real. Yeah, I mean, any any one of us
should I cut because the way we was raised, it
wasn't like this show cut that that's your brother, because
if one go out and one fight, you all fight.
(08:18):
And that was just how we was. So the relationship
that I had with my sister, she got I mean
three brothers, but she really got brother exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
You know how that go. You know how black families are.
Since everybody get married, what's up with you? What's up
with me?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
The marriage your sister tied and knock you. You you
look at.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
The relations I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I don't yeah, we're probably. I don't know about you.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I seen I seen OO just hit you with the
same Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Man, it's trying to marry me.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
All man, you're trying to do trying to I see
this a generational thing.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Bro, you've been bus I mean, this is as I
look at you now and how active you are talkative
compared to where you were in your playing days.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Uh, visit the Armors community. You're doing so much.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Is this who you really were when you played? Or
this is someone that just came up out of a shade.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Nah, To be honest, this this always been me, right.
The opportunities was different, right, I mean in the situation
and the circumstance was different as well. And I mean
it's more so like.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Then it was.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
It was like while I was playing, it wasn't that
I wouldn't talk. It was just it was I just
wouldn't talk to the media. And then I mean, you know,
you take that and make it what you want to get.
They got the painting narrative right, and their narrative was
I don't talk, right.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
So so when did when? When did this this, I
don't talk to the media. You get drafted about to
Buffalo in the first round. You had some success there. Uh,
you go to Obviously you're you're mainly known for what
transpired in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
That's where I think the name Beasts.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Mode and the way you ran, the physical style in
which you played, and the team kind of took on
your personality to lead in the boom because they get it.
They're standing on the sideline, they're watching you run the football.
When did this take place?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
That?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You know what, y'all got narrative and y'all won't paint
me if I say one thing, y'all gonna say I
said something else, and you try to make me look foolish,
So I just don't fool.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Which it was that, I mean, it was more something
like shit, what happened was the first I mean, when
I first got out of jail the first time, it
was like, you know, I'm listening and talking to these individuals,
media guys or whatever. Oh yeah, you're the greatest thing
since sliced bread. Uh, you know, they ain't had nothing
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like this since Thurman Thomas and blah blah blahah. I
got it so little trouble had facing adversity, and then
it was like, oh, I knew he was a thug.
It was only a matter of time. But like I'm like, damn,
you feel me, Like.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's not what y'all said.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Just it was the same old fuck last week. I
mean talking about how great it was, okay, no, oh,
But then what it showed me was these were individuals
who I mean probably in their personal life with some bitches,
you know what I mean. And if you're a bitch
in your personal life, then you probably gonna be a
bitch at work. And the thing was, I didn't see
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it for what it I didn't see it for what
it really was. But I just knew I didn't fuck
with bitch ass niggas. So if I wouldn't fuck with
you there, I wouldn't fuck with you at work. It
just so happened that we at work.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
We got to intersect and you got that you got
a job to do.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I got a job to.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Do, but you got the opportunity to pay this picture
about me. And I'm not finna go back and forth
with you, because yeah, I mean that was hours very
we had a problem. We go outside, we get down
handle what we handling. Then it's up right, But that
wasn't a situation, and it just got to the point
where that shit just got dragged drug out and Uh,
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they had the upper hand on me because they was
gonna go and speak about this shit every week, right.
But then at the end of the day, it wasn't
my concern because it's kind of one of those things
where it's like, I ain't really anyway what you're saying
to me that shit don't it don't it don't make
me eat, It don't make me pissed, nor do it
make me shit, So it don't really concern me too much.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Is that one of the reasons that you got up
out of Buffalo. It had gotten the noise from the
media had gotten so loud that you needed to change
the scenery.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Uh, that was a part of it.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
But shit, I mean the police out there, I mean
they was I get pulled over going to work, I
get pulled over coming from work. I got pulled over
over in the stadium leaving the game. I'm still on
the property of the Buffalo Bills, and I got pulled
over twice in the facility.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It just wasn't it wasn't it wasn't gonna work.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But they heard you be on that hend before you
They was heard you was on that hend.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Before you look this way before fast forward again.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
They ain't know nothing about that much. There ain't nothing
about that nah nah.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
They were still trying to figure out how I got
dread locks? Now, how does hair do that? What? What
kind of hair is that?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
They were still trying to figure that out.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
So, yeah, that wasn't Oh man, I don't ship, but
that's a that's a that's a fuck up feeling.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Me, I go in here, you know, I mean rush
for honey yards two touchdowns, and before I even get
to the street, I'm ship looked up and I see
the billboard on the stadium, the beach Mo billboard hearing yeah,
I mean the player's cars, and behind I see them
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cherries and beers with five oh on me talking about
turn off the car that.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Quello you just left the stadium.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
They were just cheer when you had eighty thousand your
cheer report You not.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Even get to the street. That's how serious it was
set up. Uh, you know our pair of personnel, dude,
you know what I mean, Hey, take me down to
the police station. I need to we need to go
higher at the chief or something. We going there, we
sit down, it's like have a meeting or we're gonna
We're gonna.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Figure that out.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
I get pulled over on the way to the game.
Hey man, I just wanted to me and my son
is a huge fan.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Man, you can't do that pulling me over.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I'm on the way to bro you finna worked the game,
Like why are you pulling me over right now to
tell me about your son when you could have just
brought your son to the facility.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
And hey man, I'm a hookie buck.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
What's handling?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Man?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
And it was getting you know, that was around the
time where all of the ship with you know what
I mean, the police whatever was broad and it ain't
nothing that ain't already been happening.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
But now they broadcasting, right, So it's like ship. Every
time I see them cheers and beards behind, I'm trying
to figure out, ship is this the one? It is
this the one?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Like? Man, you feel me? So I you know, give
them my agent, Like, hey, you gotta make something happen
for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So you asked to be moved out of Buffalo. Yeah, yeah,
it was just time.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, that was too much. Hey, hold on, this is uh,
this is my drink these edibles.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Right, yes, yeah, this is my drink. Lat Yes, sir,
I see, I ain't gonna lie to you. That's Shade by Lapotier.
That's me, Shade called me and La Poitier.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Where you're the mega man? Boy? I can I hire you?
You the best salesman have ever seen? Man?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Tell now, you tell the truth? If that's moves or what?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Yeah? That smooth as fuck?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Now you've had that. Yeah, we're gonna get you. We're
gonna get you a couple of bottles up out of here. Yeah,
I mean you might could be an ambassador. You want
to do some work work with me.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
You know, I got my own thing. You got Kanye too.
I got a tequila.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
That what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I got a tequila. I got some truck.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Well shit, I guess that's a different Yeah, different lanes.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, we got different we got two different cars.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
All right, fuck it, that's right.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I'm telling you the best salesman the Cross film in
a long time, do you think.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Because it's hard, I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
We played in Buffalo a lot, but I'm not so
sure that they were used to seeing a whole lot
of guys with dreads and tattoos.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I mean you from.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
West coast, that's upstate yr. So, I mean they know
they're probably thinking you not from here now.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
No, I'm not from there. Well, Eddie Murphy, say you
tell your by the way I walked, I.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Can do the dude country nigga, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah, they knew it though, you feel me, and that
it was crazy because when I got up there, uh
uh you know when they uh that that first what
is called uh that first.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
That pressed off the introduction when yeah, you got the
jersey number one?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You number one?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Hey, what's up? I'm telling man, what's up. I'm gonna
go celebrate all the ship all right. We go down
to a board and they had a Confederate flag hanging out.
My father, my damn. What kind of uh kind of
American flag is this? That's Confederate flag?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
So I'm trying to, hey, let me get some hennessy.
They looking at me like, what the fuck is you
doing in here? Like why you while you in here?
Excuse me?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Like is you lost? Like nah, No, I'm trying to
find some hennessy, y'all, got Hennessy back there.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Look up at that big ass flag like ship. I'm
I mean, like I said, I'm Westcote. That ain't something
big to us out there, right, you feel me? Everybody
come look up again, like, no, we don't got no Hennessy. No,
I see the Hennessy right there. Then I get the message, Oh,
we ain't got no Hendersy for you.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Oh this is white the only liquor. It's white only.
All right, I'm gonna go down the street because I
don't know what the fuck them.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
But it was serious. That Buffalo was serious. But I
mean when I get out in uh, the city of Buffalo,
then it's different because you know, they put you in the.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Suburbs.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, out outside and every But when I get to
the city of Buffalo, now it was different.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Oh yeah, they fucked with me. They love me right now,
and I for show love. But I knew.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
I knew Buffalo was different when I came out there
and it god damn negative zero degrees and boy ain't
had no damn shirt on with the bills rolled across
his belly. I said, ah, yeah, they different? Are they different?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Are they different? For show?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
They jumping off the goddamn things all I said, Oh yeah,
they they enjoying themself out here.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I'm looking at you and you tatted. How old were
you when you got your first tattoo?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Uh? Thirteen?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Did your mom know about it? Moms took me, she
took you. Yeah, so you said, so, how did this
conversation go? You're like, Mom, you know, I think I
want to get a tattoo.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
And she says, well, it's your birthday.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Is that simple?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
It's your birthday?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I mean, you know, moms was what they call progressive.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
You my mom's I mean, I don't know if you
met my moms or seen my mom, but my mom
coming with the ship right yeah. So I mean you
know it wasn't like yeah, I mean she was thinking,
you know, ahead of time, like there's gonna be something,
you know what I mean, your damn hands, your neck?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
All that, she probably wasn't thinking that far, but as
far as like, you know, being there and being supportive
for your kids, yeah, she was.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
That right for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So you got your first tattoo?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
What was it?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
I got a tourist a little bull on my arm right?
Cover it up now though, But that was my first one,
and that.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Was the doctrination of the tattoos. Did you did you
know from that first tattoo that you like, yeah, it's
gonna be more theise.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
No, you know it.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
To be honest with you, every tattoo is my It
feels like my first tattoo, and in my mind while
I'm getting it, it's my last one. So everyone I
got is my first and my last tattoo. And then
somehow I just keep in there with morties.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
You had a favorite quote.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
You say, Hey, you told NFL players take care of
your chickens. I say, take care of I'll save your
money because this ish do not last forever. No, sir,
why did you feel that was such an important and
a profound statement for you to make at that time?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Right then and there?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I mean, you know, because when I retired with two
or three times that so shit.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I just remember.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
It was when I first came in the league and
they financial advisor was putting up all these names of
all these great players. And at that time, you know
what I mean, if he playing the NFL, you're the
richest person on earth. Yeah, And he put up all
these names and I'm looking at him like, man, I'm
thinking like, oh he got an all star rostering all bankrupt,
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and I'm like, oh shit, hold on these some of
the people, Yeah, I look up to who I would
think like set for forever, right all right? And then
after I you know, I mean, I went to the
writers and I come in the locker room and I
heard some of the young bulls.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
They was in there chopping it up about you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yeah, I got man, I got bread and how they were,
you know, I mean comparing who had more bread was.
They'll talk about Yeezys like man, I got the Yeezies
some some some oh nigga, ain't shit. I got the
Yeezy from when he had did the ones with Nike.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
And I'm like, damn. They comparing Yeezies on how they
got bred.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
And I'm thinking, like, I just closed on my my
restaurant and went went to Escrow and I'm like, well
fuck if they got bread and they.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeezy is.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
And then I just bought, you know what I mean,
my building, my my my second building. I'm like, then
where the fuck am I at? So Antley, I go
over there, I holler at him and I kicked game
with him on you know, some situations and like damn
O G. And when they said that, like oh, I
kind of felt it on me, you know what I
mean to you know what I mean to get a
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little young.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Bulls some ASTHM.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Same thing when I had got back to Seattle that
round and it was like I knew, I knew I
was on not gonna say my way out, but I
knew it wasn't no coming back for me this time, right,
And I mean gave me an opportunity, and I mean realistically,
the last the last thing that you would give from
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me while I was in the league with basically telling
the younger generation and coming up little little ship to
take care of you know what I mean. For when
you're done, you like you were just saying a little earlier,
you're going over here doing the ship with the amishit
I mean now you just living life and enjoying shit
after you don't put in so much time at work.
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When you're done, you should be able to reward yourself
with whatever it is that you want to do. Make
sure you take care of what you need to so
when you come to that time, you can do that.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Did you ever think when you came into the league
that you would be that wise elder statement statesman that
was passing on that info that you was gonna be
the OG.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Nah, because we all, you know, and when we come in,
we all I'm gonna be doing this forever. But I mean,
you know, uh, my situation was a little different because
you know, I mean, Barry was my my was my God.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Barry had ten and.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
I'm thinking in my mind, like, hey, if I could
get ten, then I'm straight. So I mean Bear Sanders, Okay,
So I kind of had that ten year you know
what I mean, Mark, which I feel would have been
a solid career for me, right, and I mean without
without putting, you know, too much brain power behind it
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as I'm going, you know what I mean. And then
as I started getting older, I started getting better. Like, damn,
you know what I mean. Now it's easy because now
I got a program, you know what I mean, I
know how.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
To training, program, eating program, the whole Nah.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It just made this shit easy.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Oh you know what I mean, Maybe I'll just go
ahead and let this run, you know what I'm talking about. So,
I mean, you know, but I never thought that I
would end up being the og that the youngsters would
call like, you know what I mean, let me get
some as put me on with something OJ. But when
I did, it was like shit, it ain't no, it
ain't no different because I mean where I where I
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was at, I always stayed in a position to where
I was giving back, so you know what I mean,
when it came time to do it in the NFL,
I had already had a little you know, I mean
a little work at it.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Right, Who is the guy for you that when you
got into the league kind of took you under their wings,
so they did decide your villa like ooh shit.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
It was a lot of them.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
I mean, you know, I got blessed over there in Buffalo,
I had a lot of I had a lot of OG's.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
That's when the league was still you know, I mean
value veterans. Yeah, so I got to play under that.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
But I mean, you know, out of all of them,
when I think about it, just in terms of you know,
I mean keeping my keeping my business right, was would
probably be Brad Butler. He he, I don't know why.
He just was a dude who stuck out to me.
When I think back to why I did some of
the shit that I did, and he was a big
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part of that.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Right, Yeah, you've been in black, you invest heavily, you
were able to. I heard you say, you say you saved. Yeah,
you said that you saved a lot of your money.
That the money that you spent was you know, endorsements, cards,
signing appearances, that the book in your contract, that that
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the bills, the Seahawks and the raidar pager stashed that away. Yeah.
Did you always have that mindset for saving for a
rainy day or did you acquire that over the years.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
No, I came in like that.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
But that was the part of the reason why I said,
Brad Butler was probably one of the biggest influences on
that situation with me. Like I was saying, the first
meeting that they had with the financial advisory, you put
up all them names, and I seen that, right, I
damn there, fell asleep throughout this whole meeting until I seen,
until I heard him, until.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
The name popped up there. Because that's familiarity.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I know, I know, I know the people how they
play all them years, make all that money, and they
ain't got no money now nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
So now it's reality to you.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
So now I'm holing that telling him like, hey, you know,
can you run that? He like, financial advisor? Tell me
basically like Marshan, you just slept through my whole meeting. Bro,
So now you want me to give you a whole presentation.
I said, Now, I don't want you give me a
whole shit. I just want you to help me not
become one of them players on the board.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Right, Okay, So we part.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Ways and I tell Brad Butler I'm talking to him like, yeah, bro,
you feel me? He said, Man, their financial advisor is good.
Like okay, well, I'm like how much money you got
with him? You're like no, Like, you know, my family
come from from money and we got our own financial advisor.
I'm like, well, shit, how can I talk to your
financial advisory?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
He laughed at me.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
I'm gonna Shane, you don't make enough money. You mean
I don't make enough money. I was just the first
round and ship. Really yeah, we got we got generational money.
You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Right? That you got, Man, you wouldn't even be able
to get a meeting with my guy. But this guy
is good.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
That's why I'm telling me, right, Like all right, that's cool.
So then as we chopping it up. He kind of
threw something at me just about you know, learning, because
you know I got drafted what uh at twenty draft
was the twenty first, and I or the twenty second,
you know, the twenty third, and I got drafted my
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birthday on the twenty second, and I think the draft was.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
On the twenty first.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
So I'm like, man, I don't shit, I don't even
know how to I mean, realist, realistic. We spend money, right,
I mean I know how to take it out of
my pocket and give it to somebody.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But but did you have a checking account at that time?
Did you have did you ever? Had you ever gone
through the band?
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Had my little college where they put my my my scholarship,
Yeah I had that. But you know what I mean,
I should realisticly, I walk around with my uh with
my signing bonus on me for at least like three weeks.
I have my signing bonus own because I ain't no
because I ain't on no banks and all that kind
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of ship like that. So he like, one shine, it'd
probably be it'll probably be good. Uh you know, if
he has somebody help you want your money? This that
and the third Okay, well, I know another financial advisor
that I talked to that I'm pretty I'm like, shire, well,
I'm gonna just have one over here, and I give
all of my money that I make off the field,
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I just put it over here, and the money that
I make on the field, I put it over here.
And then any kind of questions I got, or if
some shit pop up, I'll just cross reference asks one,
asks one about something and I don't understand that, I
go and drop some words over to this financial advisor
and look at what how the fuck you know that?
But anyway, let me give you some game on it. So,
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I mean that was the way that I worked it too.
I had my off the field money in one account,
my own the field money with a different financial advisor.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I mean, no, bro, you got the cleats. You can
see the cleats right there.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You got a cell phone, you gotta blender, You you
gotta bike, you gotta you gotta blender, you got you
gotta bike, you got cleats, you got cell phones?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Yeah, bro, I got the hook up high.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
So what what made you become so entrepreneurial? Were you
always as a kid?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Were you like this?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Did you have a lemonade stand? Did you more graphs.
Did you did you fixed bicycles? I mean when did
you develop this entrepreneurial skill?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Well, I mean ships, straight hustle about to say you
hate hustling them players and hustlers man, and yeah, I
mean just being in that environment alone. Like if you
don't pick up nothing, then you you you dead. Wait,
remove yourself, you get out the way in this. I mean,
there's so much shit going on. If you can't learn something,
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then you got to be trying that on purpose, because
I mean just to like, I mean, you know, my
my my situation was, I've always liked learning, but it
was hard for me to learn, and I didn't know
how to be cause I couldn't sit down and read
no book, you know what I mean. That wasn't the
way that I was gonna learn nothing. I couldn't sit
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in no class learn no classroom.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
And learn nothing. But for whatever, are you a visual learner?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I'm a visual and I'm gonna do this shit learner.
So when I go out the streets and I see
them doing it, but I have to do it myself
in order.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
To actually get a grasp of it.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Okay, I mean, so as I started to you know what,
I mean as I grew, I mean, did different ships
so there so that you know what I mean, got
into this, got into that, okay, and then shit just
you know, I mean it was it was working and
shit stuck right and then I mean, you know, uh
we as we As I look back on it now,
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it's like, well, shit, you got drafted at twenty So
I mean, you know, after high school, graduated high school
with seventeen eighteen years old, it's really like two three
years of really just trying to figure it out on
your own before I got drafted. And now it's like, okay,
now we gotta now, we gotta uh, we gotta last,
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not come in last. So I mean, you know, the
mind switch had had changed. But I mean, you know,
as much as much credit azed I would like to
take for this shit, you know, I mean, I really had.
I was blessed with the team around me. And I
mean when I say the team around me, it's number one,
you know, I mean, uh, from the financial team to
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my agent, you know what I mean. But it was
really my family though, because they pushed me in ways
to be to be great and which I didn't even
know that they were doing. And I don't even know
if they knew that they were doing it right. But
the way that we held each other accountable was different
than how you know, I've seen most athletes and people
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be around them. I didn't have a bunch of yes
men or dou boys around me. I didn't. I didn't
have that shit. I had motherfuckers tell me, like nigga,
you tripping. Even in the situations to where I did
fuck up, I make sure I get them out the
way because I knew that that was my decision right
to fuck up. Now when I see them, yeah, they
gonna let me have it, That's the same way I
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would do to them, right. So we all held each
other accountable for that, and I mean, you know, I
think it turned out pretty good for us. I got
a cousin that's still playing over in Baltimore this but
damn this, Josh, about what thirteenth, fourteenth year in the league.
Then I got another cousin playing for the Raiders, who
all we was all in that same circle, and we
all did that to each other. And to see that
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going the individuals who behind the scenes was the ones
who really pushing right.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I'm how much has your team changed over the years?
Have they it has it been interchangeable.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
The rock, The rock is the rock.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Man. That's why realistically I've been blessed. I can honestly
say that I have been blessed.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I never changed financial advisors, ain't fired no agent.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
And then as far as my family, everybody, I mean,
shit is I mean you have fallout some you know,
you drop some here and there, but the core of
the core.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Still the core.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
You ownership group of the USL Chap soccer team or
the Oakland roofs uh SC investor in mm A Professional
fighting league, you have fl you have back.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
But yeah, man, you got a lot of irons in
the fire. You talked about me selling back.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Man, if if you sit back, you feel me.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
When my boy j Stalin said, he said, you got
two ears and one mouth for a reason, and I
believe that.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Listen, pay attention. It ain't so bad. It might work
out for you.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
When brands come to beef mode, they come to Marshall Lynch,
what some of the must have in your contract for
it to make sense to you?
Speaker 4 (35:19):
You said some of the must have must have.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
This got to be included or it doesn't it doesn't
make sense to me.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Well, nah, man, I'm a fair guy. I'm a fair guy.
Some of the things in which I do. I do.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Any deal that I get, I try and maximize it
to where I'm not the only person that eat off
the deal. And then, like you said, I have, you know,
a lot of irons on the fire in that situation
when I think about it.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Okay, I have a production company.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
So if somebody coming they want to do some type
of media shit, okay, well hire my production team, all right.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I got a stylist in here, all right, hire them
to get me, right, and we go from there.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Security team, Okay, well, we want to make sure we
secure the premises, so we got to do that. I
got a restaurant, so therefore a we need catering. Wet
rock were donna rock like that. So any way that
there is an opportunity for me to bring on any
of the other businesses that I have, then I'm gonna
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do that for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Like that, that was like a three sixty you a
U C B. You got to see you got to
see him him or that.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
I mean, most of the time, you're gonna see me
with the with the same individuals, right, and so therefore
that it's it's just like, I mean, I'm gonna push
for that, but I mean, you know, at the same time,
I understand, Yeah, I mean I understand the business to
some point where that that might not just that just might.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Not work right.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, But I mean, but if you got to if
you got to have those, if you're gonna do catering.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I gotta. I got I got a restaurant. I'm indicator
in business.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
I rather eat this ship anyway. You's gonna go get
me some of them old sloppy ass sandwiches with held
of mayonnaggs. I don't get down. Like, what we're gonna
do is we're gonna have auntie them come and bring
them greens, you know what I mean, the red beans
and rice.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, you feel what I'm talking. We got there, Yeah,
we got ox hell for sure.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
Like that.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Come on now, man, it's just the truth. This ain't
made up.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
You got a clothing brand, Beef Mode, and on Super
Bowl media day you had the Beef Bowl gear old
but you told her you was just there so you
didn't get fired.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
That was it.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
That was it.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
But I was probably up to about at that point
in time, I was probably up to about one point
two and finds what Yeah, because they what they did was.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
They started doubling it on you.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
They put the squeeze on me, and then they went
back to the year the year before that. Oh you
left out of the the before the hold hold on
this game.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
So we we on your head. Let me get an astractions.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Holdo. So you at the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Now they're gonna retroactively go back and say, you know what,
now that we think about it, you've missed some other
appearances that were about to tax you on. Yes, sir,
so did you have a conversation Commission Goodell? Did you
have a conversation with Commission Man.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Goodell, Adafo Birch, my agent uh D Maurice Smith. Oh no,
they are Yeah, they was all on there and see
I was so you know what I mean, I'm I'm big,
I'm bad, anti this, anti that, and they sitting there
telling me, we're not telling you you got to talk more, Sean,
We're just telling you got to make yourself available.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
So that can't pay attention because I'm so mad.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Talking to no media, y'all trying to make me talk,
trying to make me this, trying to Marsham, You're not
trying to make you talk. We just want you to
make yourself available. You had to tell me that shit
like three or four times, and then it finally clicked,
like and then I think I heard like some little
(39:19):
whisper that just gave me the cheat cob. Oh shit,
they saying, oh, they just haven't got to be available.
I don't got to talk. I'm like, oh shit, I
ain't all right, cool, cool, cool, I try to play
it all year, Yeah, all right, whatever whatever the phrase
you was telling me already, and I thought i'd heard
something special, but they been trying to tell you this
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for a minute, for a minute. But that's how you
know when you when you're in your mind, and I mean,
you ain't really trying to hear him like that.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
It'll go right over your head.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So the phrase I'm just here so I don't get
fast when did was that spot on?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Or did you have the word? You're thinking about that?
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Nah? As I'm sitting there, I'm just I don't know
what the hell going. I don't know how this is
Finna play out, I don't know what's Finna pop. And
as I'm going out there, Sharon asked me, well, what
you're gonna do, I'll tell him. I'm gonna tell you
what I'm not. I'm not gonna get fine. So when
I got up there and it was just like you
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know what I mean at that point in times like well,
you know, Ship, I'm asking myself, well, what are you
gonna do? Like shit, I'm well, you here, you did
what you needed to do. Oh I'm I'm just here
so I won't get fine. So it was just a
true statement. That's the only reason why I was sitting
down at this sea. I'm making myself available.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I ain't got nothing to say to y'all though.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
That's it. That was it. It was the truth.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
You you you were the grill king. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
You might have been one of the first guys to
well grilling. Were you first got a well grilling it man?
Speaker 5 (40:52):
You know, Edge was the one who right Edge got
man it hed all go flaid, man, I'm telling you,
you know what I mean. And then it was you
know what I mean, because like I said, I'm I'm
West coast. So when you see it like oh the
niggas over there where, it goes too like oh they
got grills and hell this shit too.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
But you feel me. They are mine. I could you know,
put in and take out and they ship might have
been permit so you feel me out?
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Oh yeah they oh ship. They got real niggas everywhere.
And then I'm watching Edge do it on on something
like Edge had the locks too, and he was a
cold I'm talking cold.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
I appreciate it. Yeah, so man, but I mean as
far as like you know what I mean, that was
somebody who I say, like, it can be done because
you could be yourself right, it can be done.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Right because Edge says that I lost out on a
lot of money because they wanted me to dish the
locks and ditch the grill.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
And I'm like, nah, this me this Edge Right.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Did anybody ever approach you and say, hey, Mark, y'all
you know, hey, you get that little cut, you know,
get to get to get the wife, go.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
In and ate be straight?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Yeah I did, Coach Tefford. Oh at cal yep, look
at your hair. You got this gold teeth in your
fucking mouth. You fucking sag your pants? Like what are you?
I'm me? You mean what I'm me?
Speaker 5 (42:32):
So we we head button clashing, and you know what
I mean? He sooner or later found out that yeah,
he wasn't lying. He is him and that's that's what
he's gonna do.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
That's who he is.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
I say, Bro, you worried about my hair, and my said, brother,
I got a three point two g p A at
CAM I show up to work every day and.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I'm giving you a hunter of the game?
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Man?
Speaker 5 (42:56):
What what?
Speaker 4 (42:57):
So? What's wrong with what I got going on? You?
You prefer I don't do that. But the truth is
the truth. I'm me.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
I mean, I ain't never had a three point two.
I ain't never had a three point on in my life,
and I got a three point two at the University
of California, Berkeley.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
Man, you couldn't tell me shit. You couldn't tell me.
I thought I was the smartest, most three point two
at calv yep.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
So how many grills do you think you've had over
your career?
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Man? I done had a few.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Shit any speciales?
Speaker 4 (43:38):
I say, plus ten plus?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
What's the most special grill that you've got?
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Uh? The ones I got now because they ain't going nowhere?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh they locked?
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Yeah, them in there, them ain't going nowhere. Them ain't
going No.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
So when you said you walked around with your signing
bonus for almost three weeks check on cash.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
When you finally cast a check. What was the first purchase,
big purchase he got?
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Hmm, The first was mom's house.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Okay, got mama crib, got Mom's house.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
And I mean, you know, the real estate in Buffalo
was pretty cheap. I got something nice and I mean,
you know the but I mean, to be honest with you, uh,
you know my first year when I got when I
I mean, my check, the biggest purchase I was going
that that I'll say I was spending was we was
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we was we was cleaning up ship. Yeah, I mean
my brother had just went to jail. So you know
what I mean, Bill and lawyer fees, a lot of
lawyer feeds, lot a lot of lawyers, a lot of
lawyer fees.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
I mean you know, he did what he did, got
passed it. Yeah, I mean you know I had mine
as well. So that was that was my biggest purchase.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
But along the way of all of this shit that
was going on, and one of the main things that
kept me, I say, what is it they use a
word for it, cheap.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Che was I'm like, man, I'll never I'll never.
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Have to eat top Ramen noodles again unless I want to, right,
And like I said, I didn't know what spending money
really was, so I'm thinking, you know what I mean,
you taking honey, you gonna bust that down.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
That shit gone.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
So that's how I'm thinking every time, you know, motherfucker
Spencer mud, that it's gonna be gone. So you know,
I mean, I was holding on this ship like you
know what I mean. I got drafted in two thousand
and seven. I didn't buy my house till like two
thousand and thirteen, fourteen something.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Like that, So I mean, you know I was. I was.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
I was really trying to hold on to my shit,
make my shit last, right, I mean I remember, I
mean I was playing with Oh jeez, you feel me
there that that old school loan money and we'll go
out and go shopping.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
They going to Gucci at the Lowis Story, you know
what I mean, spending five hundred and fifty dollars on
some and I'm like, how Jordan's won twin. I'm trying
to feel me. I'm trying to find a jug on them,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
And I remember probably like my third year, and the
lead was I bought my first pair of Gucci shoes
and I had the motherfuckers.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I said to you about ten years.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
You hell on to the plane.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
And I'm telling you, oh my pride and joy, pride
and joy, because I thought if I spent the money,
I was gonna be broke again.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
And I'm like, I ain't, I ain't going to that. Man.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
I'm looking at you on the eighty six Honda Civic
Anato to Yoda Prias with millions millions in that cap
eighty six a cord no.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Man, man telling whoever gave you that, telling they full
formed you with that. No. I had a Toyota Corsica
I had.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I mean that that's worse than the city. You should
have rolled. You should have rolled with the city.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
And that corsica, man, that was my thing. Boy, that
thing was giving me pointing at a point B and
solid we break. That thing all the way up and
down the street was sliding at me. I'm telling you, oh, man,
you drifted in a Corsica, drifted that motherfucker like Tokyo
telling they should have came and got me for the
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fast and furious.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
We were talking earlier.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
You got three three spots, you got one oak Town
got one in Vegas, you got one in Hawaiian What
made you decide to get a place in Hawaii?
Speaker 4 (47:52):
The Pro Bowl? Yeah, I mean when I went out
there the first time I seen the the you know
they keep you on the resources.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah, yeah, I had a.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
Yes, sir, yes, yeah, So y'all so thank you, cause
y'all set up the whole little get damn force from
when we got there. Yeah, I mean, they was having
all these cars and everything, but uh, I don't know,
did take them long? So if we called a taxi
and the taxi driver we got e Piney. I remember
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her like it was yesterday.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
She took us, Uh, you know the downtown wake and
uh on the way out there, you know what I mean,
like you know pany you know, my family trying to
get some bud. All right, cool, We slide through the
hood out there.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
Hell was ship.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Oh it was nice.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
But I'm looking at.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
They live in conditions, and I'm looking at the people,
and no matter where we went, they were all happy.
I'm talking about happy with just living life. And I
could respect that. And uh, I think they Uh the
my cousin was playing for the Rams, I think at
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the time, and they had a game out there, and
I went out there and uh, I'm like, you know what, man,
I'm gonna look at some properties after the game. You know,
I went and rolled around and shit, seen some nice shit.
But I went to a north shore. Okay, this helling
nice over here country, you know what I mean? What
(49:27):
I get out looking around wasn't nobody you know what
I mean, worried or bothering me. If somebody recognized me,
they threw up the deuce. I threw it back and
kept it pushing.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Oh yeah. They just happy with living life. So that
was how that spot came about. Real talk.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
So you get over there just to get away, kick
your heels up. Everybody just just living.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Life, just living life.
Speaker 5 (49:48):
And it's a good spot to have for you know
what I mean, The family need to get away for
a minute. Go ahead and kick back.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
You in the restaurant business, Rob's Ben's restaurant, What do
you what is your home cooking?
Speaker 2 (50:01):
What you guys, sir? Uh?
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Soul soul food, seafood.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
So, So if I go, if I go to if
I go to a rob a restaurant, Yeah, what should
I order?
Speaker 4 (50:14):
You said? What should you order? Me? I like, to get.
I like to get. I'm not sure what what you
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
I'm allergic to shellfish, but I like if I go
to a different spots, spot like yours.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
I'm a sampler. So give me some of this. Give
me the.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Oxtail, so yeah, you give me the you know, the
turkey nag, give me the you know fried.
Speaker 5 (50:32):
You're gonna be job. Yeah, but ship there you go
there you you feel me? The way it is is
you feel me? You you you tell Auntie? Uh yeah,
I mean you like something that she don't got on.
I mean what she gonna do is she gonna have
somebody to go get it, and then she's gonna ask
you how you want it.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
You gotta get hollow. That's how you read.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
Yeah, yeah, I mean the restaurant is it's a it's
a staple in the community. Right. The lady that I
bought it from had it for about thirty years, right,
and she was ready to go.
Speaker 5 (51:06):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
So you know when I acquired it. You know, the
name rob Beans come from my uh, from my cousin
who got a who got killed. So you feel me.
Speaker 5 (51:17):
I named it Rob Bens the memory of him. I
mean it was it was a staple in our community.
So you know, I mean for him to live on. Yeah,
I mean that's how we got the name. But yeah,
if you're looking for some and it ain't in there
until gonna make it happen. I mean all the way
down to the desserts.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
So what's the desserts. I like desserts.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
You don't take my laptose field before going the gonumb pudding.
Speaker 4 (51:45):
For sure, Peach cobb, chocolate cake, lemon cake, the whole nine.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Man. I need to get on that where you said
that that's a dope town. I need to go on
down there. You have your own line of cannabis, Doddy
Doty Doughty pre rolls.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
Yeah, it fuels diamond diamond fields pre rolls.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah, blow like a champ.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
This bad here, hold o, this bad guy bloodness pre rolls.
He got a tequila, he got cleats, he got a
clothing line.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (52:21):
I'm trying to do some little shit little yeah. But
the thing is realistically as silly as it's said. It
ain't for me, you know what I mean, what it
is for is for it, you know, I mean the
younger generation who in it, like it can be done,
you know, I mean I liked it.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
I got this foul.
Speaker 5 (52:39):
I like the press play did the idea? You press
play on it? Let it come to life. The most
you could say is it didn't work out right. And
at the end of the day, if you don't never
tried shit, you don't never know.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
You don't know if it could have worked, you don't.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
So I tried see how it go.
Speaker 6 (53:01):
Talk?
Speaker 2 (53:01):
What age did you start smoking weed?
Speaker 5 (53:06):
What age I started smoking weed? So it damn when
we lived when Dame lived with us, mm hmmm, dang
came and stay with us.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
It was about you're talking about Dame Lillard, right, No,
nah nah dang down there but you but you down
the street?
Speaker 4 (53:22):
Yeah, dang down the street. Uh, my cousin Dang. Uh
he came to live with probably like eighth ninth grade. Ah.
I first tried it, but getting into it, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 5 (53:34):
When I when I figured out how how it was
helping me, You feel me recover and get my body right.
It was probably uh started really blowing heavy, probably like
uh in the senior year in high school.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Have you talked to commissioner? Have you talked to anybody
about the benefits of cannabis? Because I Ricky Waters got it,
Ricky Ricky Waters, Ricky Williams got in trouble. There have
been a lot of guys that's lost, some game checks,
some suspend you know, suspended. Yes, and now you see
the turn towards Malwana. That is not the stigma it
(54:16):
once was. Right, have you been have you talked to
anybody in the NFL offenses? Hey, let me y'all need
to do some more research on this thing, because I
think they're more benefit than downside.
Speaker 5 (54:26):
Well not to that extent, but I mean, you know,
I've been in the program a few times and you know,
I mean I had to you know, I mean tell
my my side of the story, right and what the
case may be, and so I mean from from that angle,
and then you know, dealing with uh, you know, the
trainers in the league more so because they want to know, okay,
so what do you do? Because they want to figure
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out how you go out here and run the way
you run and then be able to do it again,
you know, I mean weekend and week out right, And
I mean you know as well, you know, you kind
of want to hold it from then it's like all right,
well look man, that's what I do.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
I get down, I blow me some bud. You know,
feel me, put me in a relaxed state of mind.
You feel me.
Speaker 5 (55:05):
So then when I go and do you know what
I mean, my body work besides just where I'm in
the float tank, whether I'm doing you know, ice bath
I mean, or just all the shit is just put
me in a state of mind where I'm psyching myself out.
You know, I feel me mind over matter type shit.
Speaker 4 (55:21):
And you know what I mean. For the career, It's like.
Speaker 5 (55:25):
You have windows, you know what I mean, and as
long as you keep it within those windows, then you
you know, you be all right right. So I mean,
just just that type of mindset, it helped. And then
you know those windows when you have to turn it down,
you know, I mean you not, I'm not in a
position where I'm where I'm banging in my recovery time.
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I don't have to be yeah, feel me here. So
it's like, Okay, I can cool on this, and I
can you know, indulge more into getting into the swimming pool,
you know, I mean band workouts or whatever, because like
I said, even with with that mindset fore me, I'm
trying to last and I come in last. I know,
I need to take care of my body. So how
do I you know, I mean maintain that?
Speaker 2 (56:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (56:09):
So that you played a very physical style of football,
which is not conducive for lasting, right, I mean, you
look at the guys that played the style. I'm old
enough to remember Earl Campbell. I was a kid with
Earl Campbell and he played a very similar style, and
after about seven eight years, he just couldn't take it.
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How were you able to bang like that game in
and game out, year in and year out, and do
it over and over again?
Speaker 2 (56:38):
Peace?
Speaker 4 (56:39):
Man?
Speaker 5 (56:40):
It was like I said, it was extensive, an extensive
recovery process. And then what help was? I found out
like a lot of you know what I mean, this
is when you get into you know, dB started getting
a lot of money where they was.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Turning you know, I mean, they're making business decisions.
Speaker 5 (57:00):
Business decisions. So it wasn't as you know, I mean,
I was, you know, taking more hits than I was giving.
So when you on the you know, the the receiver
end to getting hit, that's you know what I mean,
that's when you really feel it. But when you're giving it,
you don't feel it as much. And then you know,
like I said that that that dopamine and prochions and neutrons,
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that that ship releasing your brain, and I think that.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
Shit help as well, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (57:27):
So I mean more scientific reason for this, And the
more I think about it, it was like the harder
I ran, the better I felt.
Speaker 4 (57:37):
After the game.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
Did you go into the game trying to make people
turn it down? Did you know that you could break
someone's will? Because that's what football is in it's at
its core, it's about breaking the man. It's about intimidation.
It's about breaking another man's will because I've got to
move a man against his will. You got to move
that DL. You got to get him up off that
plot of layer. You got to get that back up
off off your beat.
Speaker 4 (57:58):
And that's real talk.
Speaker 5 (57:59):
And I mean, and you know that the mindset was
more and so like, yeah, I mean, you can hit
me once, you can hit me twice, But if you
gonna want to do that ship for four quarters and
nine times thirty time a game, nine times out of
ten they don't want that. Nine times out of ten
defensive guys did not want that.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
Well, you a talker?
Speaker 4 (58:19):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (58:20):
Did you talk back? Hey, you, you saw you, and
you don't want no to this. Even if they talked
to you, you didn't say anything.
Speaker 5 (58:27):
Because they knew it was up with me. You know,
you had guys that were try with me and they
feel it and then it's all respect.
Speaker 4 (58:35):
Respect dog.
Speaker 5 (58:38):
It was more about it, you know, I mean, don't
talk about it, be about it. You're talking ship to
me then you know for a fact, then we got
a bang. We have to because it ain't nowhere around that.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
So now you're looking for it. You talk you, I'm
looking for you. Now, I'm gonna go out of my
way to fire. I bank got a five yard game
over here, but if I see you, I'm gonna get
that fired through you.
Speaker 5 (58:57):
I'm gonna come and take two just to hit your
ass because the next time it's gonna turn into seven.
It was chess, right, it was chess, and I was
playing it against him,
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