Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson are joined by some of the biggest names in boxing! Claressa Shields says Laila Ali is DUCKING her despite $15M waiting for her, Shields picker he two dream fights and Shakur Stevenson joins the show fresh off his win over William Zepeda.
1:35 - Claressa Shields joins the show
9:16 - Wanting to fight Laila Ali
11:10 - Claress still have beef with Alycia Baumgardner?
13:15 - Ocho's BEEF with Andre Ward
18:00 - Claressa DREAM fight
28:07 - Claressa's fallout with her sister
38:00 - Shakur Stevenson joins the show
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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without no further introduction. Hershe is two time Olympic champ,
sixteen wins, three KOs, the undisputed heavyweight women's champion of
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the world. Clarissa shields, Clarissa, how are you, maam?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
How are you doing amazing?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay, You're gonna be defending your heavyweight championship this weekend
in Detroit. You take on Landy Daniels at the Little
Caesar's Arena. I mean you just fought a couple of
weeks ago, Carrissa, Damn, you fight like the old stop
fighter used to fight.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I thought I'm fought in February. It's a while ago.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So let me ask you this, So you try to fight.
How many times are you realistically? Ideally?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Would you like to fight? A year? Two year, three,
a year?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I would love to fight. I don't know if my
phone frozen on you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes, the videos frozen, but we can hear you. She'll
be back she's having some technical difficulties. You know that happens.
I mean, hey, welcome to the world of television, live television.
Because this is unrehearsed, O Joe, we don't get to
cut and say, don't worry about it. We can go
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back and pick it up and we'll start from where
we left off.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
You're back now.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I ask, I say, ideally, how many times a year
would you like to fight?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I think three or four times is good for me,
you know, I think that I go on there, I win.
I don't really get scratched up and banged up too bad,
So three to four.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Is good for me.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You're taking on Landy Daniels in Detroit Little Caesars. What
do you hope to accomplish? Because and by many estimations,
if you are the you know, it's a short list
you and we're going to talk about that a little later.
The greatest women's boxes ever. So it's a only a
really short list. So taking on her, I mean, what
what do we hope to accomplish in this? What do
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we what are we gonna get? When you do what
you always do, come out here victorious?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
So Shannon, that's only one greatest weak okay, okay, by bad,
by bad talk to him that.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And that's okay.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
But what you can look forward to see it on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I don't know if you guys watched the All women's
card that happened with MVP July eleventh up in Masters.
Regarding a lot of those girls that fought were good.
They were ranked number two, three, and four in the world,
but number one did not did not fight, so you
didn't get to see the skills and the power and
everything that I possess.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So that's what you're gonna see on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
And I'm bringing you know, I'm packing the house with
fifteen thousand people. I'm well over a million dollars at
the gate already. We're gonna do how close to two million?
Outlet they gate?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I mean, I am coming on.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I'm coming out to put on the shelf a shell
for the people, and I'm coming there and I'm bringing power,
I'm bringing skills, I'm bringing speed, and I want to
show you why I worry these greatest.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Women of all time changed.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Hold on, I got a question this and I love
I'm boxing through this. I love I love thee I
love the sweet science, always have and been a fan
of yours for a very long time. All the thing
you've accomplished today to this point, obviously being the greatest
woman of all time, how do you stay motivated? How
do you stay motivated to want more? And after this
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fight against Lanny Daniels, what's next?
Speaker 6 (03:42):
First?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Just talk to me about the motivation and what keeps
you going once you've already achieved so much in the
sport that you love.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
You know, right now, I'm sixteen and er right and
I'm the only fours I'm undisputed champion, and I'm five
five divisions And did I say seventeen times to me now?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
And it's like, you know what, I want to retire
and I want them to say, Oh, Clarissa was fifty
time world champion.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know, Cressa was undefeated.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
She fought against the best, She didn't dunk nobody, She
made the best fight, She showcased her skills against anybody.
She was dominant. You know that motivates me. And like
the fact that you know, it's not many doughters out
there who believe that I'm not the greatest woman of
all time, right, but if there is any that's that
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motivates me to make them be fans, you know, like
they may not like me, but they will respect my
craft and know that, Okay, we may not like her
for what era their reasons are, but still respect my
craft and know that I'm the best at what I do.
And when I'm the best at what I do, you
really came to me because you're not the best at
what you do.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So in other words, you say, you're trying to convince
all You're trying to convert all those non believers into believers.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yes, just like Jesus did.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Okay, there's news that came.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Out you and Laila A Lee, who you know, when
she was fighting, she was the greatest woman a box
of all time. They here come you and you guys
have been going back and forth, and I think it's
being reported or you said you got fifteen MILLI you
said you want a fifteen million, Well we got that
and now yeah, so if you were to fight her, Clarissa,
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can I say this, I don't really see the upside
for you because if you beat her, she's almost fifty.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
She's forty seven.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And she said out her own mouth, for the past
couple of years, how this thing even first started?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
She said, she would not come out of retirement.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And fight nobody because nobody was good enough to give
her a challenge, knowing that me and her fought at
the same weight class. And people think that I start
the beef, but she said that, and I'm the number
one poppawn woman in the world. We fight out the
same way class. I got the belts I got dealing
the gold medals. She even said, I think when she
gonna broadcast when I was going for my first Olympic
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gold medal, she said, oh, if they would they had
the Olympics back when I was coming up, I would
have won the Olympic gold medal.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
And she wouldn't have. She wouldn't have. I'm being honest
with you, she wouldn't have.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
You know, everything that thing that Laylah says about me,
she's saying about herself.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
She says that I'm not like I don't have enough
skills to be her. She don't have enough skills to
even compete with me.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
The only thing thing that think that that Laila has
is her size. She is a big woman. I mean
big hands, big beet, big head. Like Layla is a
big la. No, I'm saying like she's still a beautiful woman.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Don't get me wrong, but she's.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
A big lad said that's a big target. You said
big head. Big head means big target.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, And if it was to fight, I would hit
that big.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You this, I'm gonna sit back and let you take it.
How did the relationship sour.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Her?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
When she did that?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
She go on in an interview and says, oh, I
would come my retirement, but there's no one good enough
to give me a challenge. There's no one's like, no
one's skilled enough, no one strong enough. I can just
come out of retirement after being out the being out
the ring.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
At this time, it probably was like thirteen play years.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
So she said that she can not box for thirteen
years in a professional boxing match, and there's nobody who
would give her a challenge, and she was to come
out of retirement, and then she even said she would
knock me out. People have to understand, Yeah, people got
to understand, Like, I don't take stuff like that lightly.
It's like, you know what, let's put your money where
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your mouth fits. I don't want to keep talking about Leilah.
I actually quit talking about her years ago because I'm like,
you know what, a fight's never gonna happen every year.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
She's getting older, she's never going to come out of retirement. Whatever.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
And then she come out and say, oh, the rumor
I heard is if Clarissa got fifteen to twenty mins,
then I well, I got your fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You called you called her blood Clarissa.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, and we are still waiting to hear a response.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Wait, so you you are you are?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
You are dead serious, regardless of age, regardless of how
long again said I've been out the ring, you will
still get in the ring and fight her.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Layla told you all herself she is a healthy forty seven,
she ain't old and ran down. She said she work out,
she still box, she jumped rope. She wrong, this was
she said, I just say it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
She said, it's still forty seven.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Hey, well people need to act, you know when they
say actual will act forty Well, well we'll act forty
seven because you don't want to come mincing with the
young lion who's hung. You know who got the fifteen
million to make a fight happen.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know you under that.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
I have a question, and I'm not I'm not clear.
I'm not known for predicting the future. But I already
know based on what I've seen, your resume speaks for herself.
Everything you've done in the ring to date speaks for herself.
Your last fight, if I'm not mistaken, was February. I
don't remember the exact day, but I did watch the fight.
Hell a performance you fight Live twenty this Saturday, Lady Daniels,
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what's after that? After you beat Miss Dames? That this
is no disrespect to her in her camping with what
they're what they're working on and hoping to accomplish.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
But we we know how the end result is going
to be. What's next after that?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I would love, like I said, to lock in the
fight with le Loley January February next year, tim obil
Arena reached out to us and want to host the fight.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Copboys, they don't want to host the fight.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You're the biggest women's boxing match in history, and it's
fifteen million for her, So I don't know what she
waiting on, but I know when I turned forty seven,
I wish one of these young girls would try to
test my gangster.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I'm coming right back to get that money fifteen for her?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
What if it you?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
We don't need to worry about what happened, not.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Because first of all, you know, I'm the I'm the
A side.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Okay, Yeah, let's not you know, boom, but it's more
of like a still it gets with your number.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
We got the numbers.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
We got the number.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
So if you think you can beat me up and
I'm just so not skilled and I ain't got no
power and I ain't good, well, okay after this, but
if that fight doesn't happen with Layla, I wanted to
have one more fight this year. Listen to anybody, should
they Chagrene? She just became champion recently a rematch with Franchise.
(10:47):
Ye cannot mess with me. She can't fucking me at all.
But whatever, she got a belt, so if she want
to get banged up, she can get.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
How many belts you need, Clarissa Day, you got Mike seven.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I got seventeen, but I need fifty.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
I told you I have one more question. I have
one more question.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
And I understand there's a way difference obviously with with
with possibility, if if it's even possible for you to
come down or for her to go up with miss.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Miss Miss bunganer? Is that is that? Is that? Is it?
Anyway that's even possible?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You got to be joking.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
I'm just I'm just asking mama.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So so, so one so one. Me, Me and Alicia.
We we kind of squashed our beef.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
You know, probably okay, But Alicia know that it's the
difference between being good, ma'am. She's working her way towards
being great, you know, and she just ain't got enough.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
She ain't got enough asked behind, she.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Ain't got enough breaks in her back pocket.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
That's what you had to be able to.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
That's why I asked. That's why I ask. I mean, yeah, done.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So, if if it was a fight that could be made,
the laws would be one fifty four for me.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
She would have to come to fifty four. And I
think I saw her last year. She said she.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Weighed one forty seven back when she was doing her
you know, at Claresca Shields Tour, back when we was beefing,
and she got.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Up to one forty seven.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
So if she could, you know, come up to fifty
four and I go down to fifty four, I would
love to.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Make a fight with her. Just approve to her.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Listen, I can kill myself to make this weight and
then still come out here and beat you in the
boxy name.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Let me ask you this, what about a rehydration clause?
Because she's they're probably gonna want that because that I
mean you're coming down, You're coming down a couple of
weight classes to get to fifty four.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, I'm not gonna do no rehydration clause because when
you understand how you lose weight and how much water
is water is important, you don't you don't play us
with the games. So I would never put myself in
danger like that to where like I can make the way,
but not being able to read, to read to rehydrate.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
If this is just not good, unstandable, understandable. But hey,
can I can I put my hat? Can I put
my hat in the in the ring?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
So listen, if the fight happens with you and Leila
Ali for whatever reason, whatever the date may be, can
I be on the undercard?
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Please? I'm asking ahead of tam.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I just knew you was going to say something about
you fighting today. I just knew it.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
I knew it. And andre Ward we got some month
finished business. Who do you want me? And andre Ward?
We got some month finished business.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Oh justin go let we gotta match you a f.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
It's fair since it's fair and in the state in
the bottle.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Andre andre Ward Yeah, yeah, you know Lifetime people they love.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Up easy you mean Hines Ward, Hines Ward not and Hines.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, you're gonna have to go with like maybe a
ks No, no, no, no, don't do me like that.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Damn like that.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Don't do like that. Listen, he listen.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
We've been going at it back and forth for a
very long time, similar to how you and Alicia were,
similar how you and Leila lear So me and are Well,
we have to we have to squash this beef that
we have.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
It's it's a friend, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Sometimes the only way to squash the beef is to
fight you.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I tell you what. Sometimes you gotta get.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
So put us on on the car please, That's all
I mean.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
So, so if the fighting made, I would definitely let
my team know we need to get O, Joe and
andre Ward on the under I promise you I will
keep that in my mind and let them know.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Listen, this is on tape.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, I see you, Okay, putting this out right now.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
I'm smooth with the hands.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Now if o Jo fight andre Ward. I'm not going
to do partner for nightcap there.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
You don't believe in me?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Nah? Not against Audrey Ward.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Hold on time, my time.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
I if if, if this happens, I go in there
with a night with the with the with the with
the nightcap, trunks, the night roll, you know, and you
know I'm I'm representing us. You're gonna bet against me?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
A bitch?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Your boy?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Hey? They he probably knock them off. You you so they
be in the ring. I just go in the ring
and get them.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
So I got a question, Yes, Bail, if you were
to have a boxing match, who would you want to fight?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Again?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
If I had a boxing match, Yeah, Clarissa, I'm fifty seven.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I don't want to box nobody.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
No, don't do that. Don't do that because listen, it.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Got other men.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
That's fifty said. But who you who you want to
punch in the face? Man?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I done got you all. I ain't got no beef
no more.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Nah. May we can't do that man, because business, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I I'll punch a few folks in the.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Well.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You chose the right profession because it seems like you
gotta you got some anger issues.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Going on, Clarissa that you have to resolve what you
getting to the square?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Damn have you always I love boxing as a child,
did you? Did you fight a lot as a child.
Were you confrontational as a child. I mean, somebody say
something to clarifality like it's on site.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
People was confrontational to me? I want confrontation quite so, yep.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I didn't know how to talk till I was five,
and I stuted real bad till I was eleven years old.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I couldn't even talk completely, and people bullying me.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
That's and that's what made me angry, Like despite the
stuff that I went through.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
At home, now now I'm going to school, kids is
pulling my hair. Kids is taking my homework and copying
it and ripping it up. And so I went through that.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
First, second, first and second grade, and then when third
grade came, it was over. I was kicking butt, I
was kicking ass man. It was over for them after that.
And I learned that when you sent, when you stick
up for yourself, people leave you alone.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I didn't started bucking til sixty grade. So from the time.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Third grade all the way to the six I had
gotten into a few little street fights but they always
started with people.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Picking with me.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I never picked with people. I really didn't want to
fight because I didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Know if I if I could fight my It was
my anger that drove me to push people.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Put people, grab them and just see and you know,
see what I could do. But the first fight that
I ever got into was with my little sister Browna.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
And when I tell you, brown up with my ass.
When I was eight nine years old, Brianna beat the
shit out of me.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You didn't want to go through that anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
M sister was a minutes to society. Man. She could
do so much mean stuff to me growing up. Man,
I'm telling you, it was wild.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But let me let me ask Let me ask you this, Clarissa,
if you can fight any woman past the present? Obviously,
Laila leads on the on the car because you know,
the big payday you're talking about is probably a million
plus prey per view, viyes probably if it's at Jerry's World,
you're talking about seventy eighty thousand fans, key Mobile, you'll
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probably sell that out. But if I mean, who would
you like to fight? Would you like to fight and Wolf?
Would you like to fight Christy Martin, the cole Miner's daughter.
Who would you like to fight?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I would. I would stop Christy Martin.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's not even a competition, A little small for you,
I will I.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Would knock her out. So now next the only other
woman that'd be a.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Dream fight for me? If I would have to say
one being being and Wolf and two k Taylor Kenny
because her skills are phenomenal. The girl can box, can bang,
she can figure it out.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
She's a highly competitive stinker in size and ring and
she wins all her fights that way. She may I
knock you out, but she's gonna outthink you and I
would love to share a ring with her if we
were near the same size. But she's one forty and
like I said, loads, I can go as one fifty four.
And then as far as an Ann Wolf, listen.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And was she was?
Speaker 6 (18:54):
She was?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
She was vicious.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
People.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
People know Layla because Layla had the name, and Layla
was a good boxer. But for Layla and Ann Wolf
to be in the same way class and to never
fight and camp in the same era, we all know Layla.
I'll leave duck the end Wolf and why she ducked
Ann Wolf because Ann Wolf would knock your dim head off.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
And that's a fight.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Even I watched the an Wolf documentary on YouTube when
I was a kid. I watched her push trucks and
punch bags and lift weights and if you look up
ann Wolf versus vonder Ward, the biggest knockout in women's boxing.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I dream to have a knockout like that.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I a dream match between her and I I would
love to have only because I don't think I can
be knocked out, but with her in the first three rounds,
I had to be very worried about that.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I think I can box and I can.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Move and I can figure her out and I got
enough power to deal with my own.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
But man, she catch it on first three rounds. It's
some stuff you got to fight through.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
So that would be a dream fight for me if
we were in the same era and we were fighting.
But that would be somebody who I'm like, Yo, that's
the woman who I'm kind of intimidated by. And just
to mention her, She's coming to my fight on Saturday
to support me and be there for me. And this
is one of my idols, you know, And I'm just
so happy that she's coming.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, you need people that don't know about Ann Wolf.
You need to You need a Google her or YouTuber
or whatever you need to do, because she definitely had
dynamite in her hands. I mean, she was a vicious
she was ferocious.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
She was So I have one more question. I got
one more question. Listen.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
We know how great you are, greatest woman of all
time when it comes to boxing.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
What other passion once you're done playing? I'm about playing.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Once you're done boxing, once the sweet science, once you
hang the gloves up. What other hobbies are you interested in?
What else is it that you like to do outside
of the ring?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Music.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I just have my listening party today and very well,
you know everybody. I had nine songs and they rated
all my songs and ten.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
I was social good.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I like music, and honestly, I'm a big community person.
I want to train young girls and young boys.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Who come from environments that I grew up in, and
I want to teach them boxing so boxing can help
them like it helped me. You know, it really changed
my life and helped me redirect my anger.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
And I really don't.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Look like what I've what I've been through, So I
want to get back to communities and help people learn
self defense. And I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna have
kids within my career, so I don't have to stop
in my career to do that.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Let me ask you. Let's say this for the sake
of argument. Leila says, you know what, Clarissa, you won't
this work. I'm gonna give you this work, but I
want you to put that chain up. I want you
to put the gloat up. And if I beat you,
I don't ever want to hear you say mentioned greatest
woman of all time. I don't want that. I want
that chain. You're gonna put the chain up?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yea?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And me? She wants the little one. I won't. He
won't that right there, because.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
That's the one that caught a honey.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's what that's what she want.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, she's she come out retirement and she shut me
up and beat me up around her neck. I'll put
her on the neck and I snap it clothes for
and let her. You can have it.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Boo wow, you can have it.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
That's but that's how confident I know that this ain't
what she wants.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You seem very happy. You seem very happy.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Maybe it's because a lot of your your your personal
life has been made public, and maybe you had someone
in your life that was behind the scenes. But watching you,
you know, we know some of the same people we
know Jamie Fritz. But watching you now, you seem a
lot more at peace. You seem a lot, a lot
more happy than you were in the past. Am I
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assuming too much? Am I reading too much into your
body language and the way you're moving now?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
No, I have to say that one.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I'm I'm thirty years old now, but I can say
that since I've met Pap, I've met Pat Pools, he has.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Brought a whole different woman out of me. I guess,
like I listen to him.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
He can tell me to be quiet, okay, and he
knows how to fight, you know, so I can't bully
him around the and you know, he is just so
he's so kind to me and he's so helpful that
I've always had to do everything myself, you know, And
that's dealing with my family, dealing with my friend, dealing
with my business.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I've had to do everything myself since seventeen years old.
And now I have somebody that really like have my
back and my best interests and who I mean, looks
after me.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
When I don't even want him looking after me, like
he's so protective, and you know, I think that with him,
I wouldn't be able to like I would be happy
because I was working all my happiness before I met him,
But meeting him it just gave me, Like I think,
when you find your person, you can just talk to
him about anything and about any problem.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Like I call him and listen, I talked most shit than.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
A little bit, and I call him about I called
him about everything, and I mean he always has his
ear open to communicate and talk with me and give
me great advice and also to let me know, like, look,
you're wrong here, you know, And.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
I just appreciate that. It's so many tweets and so
many posts that.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I was about to put up, he just like, he like,
don't do it. It's because he knows my bigger picture
and he's helping me get to that. So I think
that with him helping me and him being so supportive,
of him being so kind to me, it's really just.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I don't know, I feel like.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I have I have a great a great partner in crime,
and we and we're going somewhere special. So yeah, you
can you can say that he made me more want.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I think to someone to share that because I guess
for the longest time I heard you, you know, talk,
I've seen you on different platforms than you're talking about
how your family when you became successful, even though you
did all of that, they still some of them turned
their back on you. And still the more you gave,
the more they wanted. And it's said, and you said,
you and I and I took.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Note of this. You said they didn't want what you
gave them. They want what you had. What do you
mean by that?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Tell our chat that didn't hear you on other platforms
talk about that?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
What did you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
They don't they don't want what you give them.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
You can give them one hundred dollars, you can give
them a car, you can give them a house, you
can give them food.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
They don't they don't want that. They want what you have.
So so what do you have?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
You got a nice house, you got the popping YouTube channels,
you got the million dollar partnerships and endorsement and sponsorships.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
They want that.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
They don't want when you're giving them a thousand dollars
and ten thousand and fifteen thousand dollars. When you helping them,
when you're paying their bills, you buying them cars.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
They don't want that. They want your car, they want
your house.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
But that day, absolutely, and that's where for a long time,
you know, I didn't know how to say no. And
when I started saying no, that's what people who I
say yes to before hundreds of times had the biggest issue.
That's when it was oh, she boogie, Oh she don't
care about her family. She don't take care of nobody.
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And you know, out of everything that I've been through,
the hardest one to deal with doing that was my
younger sister because we came up together, you know, and
she got three kids, and I help her to take
care of her kids like all her kids caught me mama,
like her kids is my kids? When she have eleven
year old, an eight year old and a five year old,
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and it's my little niece. And no, nobody wouldn't people
think that I have kids because I have them so much.
And you know, I'm the type of auntie where I'm
sending groceries every week, I'm buying clothes, I'm buying school clothes.
So for me, the hardest part when I start going
through that. A lot of other people did it too,
but it was her that really hurt me.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Because she was the closest, the most.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yeah, and we got say mama, same daddy, And she
really is like people see me as this light and shining,
you know star, but Brianna is my darkness. You know,
she is my darkness and she's the opposite of me.
But she understands that I got that same darkness inside
of me. I just show the light all the time,
but she's like how I am inside the ring.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Brianna is like that every single day of her life.
She will she will.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Literally put hands on you like she will knock you out,
Like she send me videos of her fighting or the time, like, Brian.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
You need to stop, but she will knock your head
clean off.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You need to get some did Clarissa, have you had
a conversation with your sister.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Did you tell your sister like.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
This hurts me after everything that I've done for you
and your kids, which are my nieces and nephews, After
everything that I've done, Brie, really, this is the way
you behave this is the way you act towards me.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Social media social media has his pros and times.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
But when she's seen an interview that I did with
andre Ward and where I was crying, you know, she
caught me and she said, everybody's talking about it herd
at the top.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
She said, well, damn, it's her at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Too, but that's not your father.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
No.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
But I'm like, I'm like what you mean.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
She was like, rest. You know, I'm struggling all the
time and you're not. So that's where in the mossity came.
Like even though I was, you know, even though I
was helping her, people getting in her mind her head
telling her your sister should do more, when it was like,
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I've done a lot for you. So when we talked,
she was like rest. She you know, one we went
four months without talking, which my family knows that I
don't do that. I talked to my mom and my dad,
even they made me upset. I still talk to them.
I really went on like a hiatus where I ain't
talk to my sister for like four months, and then
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she would have the kids called me, and I would
only talked to the kids and I wouldn't talk to her.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
And it went on for four months.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
And one day she just hit me and was like, look,
I want my sister back.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
You know, I'm sorry. I messed up. I'll never do
it again.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
And you know, it is what it is. You know,
you know that I got you through whatever, you know.
But I just feel like, Yo, where I'm trying to
get to in my career. I can't have any going
live on Facebook lying on me telling folks not to
get tickets to the fights. And she's like, I can't.
I can't have that, And I mean it was deep
the stuff that she did, but she had people.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
That your sister.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
You know, normally when family says something about an individual
because they're so close, y'all grew up together. This is
not some arbitrary, some willingly person talking. This is your
blood suster.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah, And that was the problem that I had was
everybody took her word for face value when and then
I didn't want to get on a social media back
and defend myself because it was like, oh, I'm trying
to be above that, but I.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Literally had to. It started affecting.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Take yourself from my last for my fight with two
years ago, and I'm like, it was a week of the.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Fight, you know, So she's telling people oh, she on
the red crocodile tears.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
You know, don't come to the fight. She don't support
her family. She bought one of her friends a house,
which I did not, but people believed that and it
was like I had to, Clarissa, get on there and
try to clear it up.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
But you know, people love.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Negative before you go that that issue that you having, Clarissa,
all athletes, not just all athletes. I can only speak
from from our perspective and playing football and having to
talk to rookie before and learning to say no because
your family. When it comes to your family, your family
redrain you. They were drained because in the hard part
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for athletes and players, they have to understand it's okay
to take care of your family. It's it's okay to
enjoy the fruit to your labor and blessing those back
that help you along the way. But those that take
they have no limits because they don't they don't understand
what it took to get to that point because a
reason they have nothing. Sometimes you know, obviously there the
(31:46):
unfortunate circumstances that happened, but when one person makes it,
they expect that one person to be the gold ticket,
the golden ticket, and they continue to take over and
over and over and never knowing when to stop until
that well run dry. So at some point, the hard
part of being the one that makes it out the
family is knowing when to say no, because at some
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point if you can tee to pull that water from
the well at some point and gonna run dry.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, I agree, Clarissa.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I think the thing is what I tell people, that
is a great gesture if you choose to help brother, sister, cousin, aunt, uncle,
but you're non no obligation. See people, See people have
got this notion because we came up in the same house,
or I saw you from a child, or I changed
difles on you, that that obligates you to take come
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someone for the rest of their life, or buy them
a house, or buy them a car out of the
kindness of your heart. That is a suppert That is
an unbelievable gesture. But we've got to stop trying to
put that burden, trying to guilt people in because because
the first thing they're gonna say, you know what they say, Clarissa,
and I had this and note you, I know you've
had it.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
If it was me, I help you you know.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
It's the one.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
If I was you, I'll help you more than you
hear me. So they don't even care about how much
helping them. They just saying, oh, I do way more
for you, and I'm like, no, no, you would.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
And the first thing when there's no more money, and
somebody said, man, what happened off paristals money? Man, I
don't know what she did with that money. I gave
it to you. I had to help you. You you
you you, And now I ain't got no money, ain't
nobody got no money.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And now y'all talked about y'all don't know where the
money went.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
I had to I had to tell myself. I said, listen,
if I was to stop boxing the day and I
ain't have another dollar, who would pay my bills? I
got a four thousand dollar mortgage on my seven hundred
FIFTUD dollars house up in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
House, I own a few cribs.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
You know you're talking to a ball.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I got hold on your list on. You don't be
in my basky now, but our own houses and cars.
I'm just beat out here with the blein bleing. Oh
t I'm you know what I'm saying sometimes some stuff
you see it and be like, hold on that right there,
the knockoff, but this right.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Here, come on now, you know?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
So no, for me, it was like I said, if
I stop right now, who will pay these bills? These
car notes?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
You know?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
For how I like to eat, I like to eat.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I'm a heavyweight. I like to eat sake and eat
at the finest places. So I'm like, right now, I'm
probably my bills altogether, probably about ten thousand dollars with
all my bills together. So it was like, right now,
if I had to freeze my bank account and I
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and I couldn't use my money, who would help me
pay that ten thousand dollars make sure that I got
my house, my car, my insurance, everything, who will help
do that? And it's sad to say, but it's not
many folks who you can rely on, or people to
even team up, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
So that's why I'd be like, hey, I'm so glad
you just said that. I'm so glad you just said that.
For those that are in the chat, I'm not sure
how much you help your family, but I know everyone
else is gonna see this, especially my fellow athletes, whatever
it is you play rappers web be like, just think
about that hypothetically, Like Clarissa just said, if just so happened,
(35:19):
God happened, you ran out everything, go through your phone
right now and whatever your overhead is a month or
whatever you may need.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Who can you call on your phone right now that
you know, no matter what, they gonna say, yes.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
That you yes, say, I can tell you right now.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
My best friend Nimmi will probably be like, hey, I
can't pay your ten thousand dolllarge. You can come stay
with me and I make sure you need everybody until
you get back on your feet. But ain't nobody going
to be like, hey we got ten thousand for your month. Oh,
ain't no path pap wall take care of me here.
But I'm thinking of like, not my relationship, but you know,
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family stuff. It's not It's not one person I.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Could I could call.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Clarissa, thanks for stopping by, good luck on the fight,
and please, please, if this fight is to get made
with you and Laila Ali, please come back on night cap.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Of course, you know I'm supposed to come back and
do like the the Big One. Yeah, yeah, I sposed
to do club, So.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Let me go.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
We can lock.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Hold on, Wait a minute, wait a minute, you talk
about after this fight, the next fight that she does
do I'm on the undercar.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Remember, oh Joe, we're talking about this. I told you,
I told you five nights a week. I don't need
you to bring your black ants back. I'm talking to her.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I told you all the time. Clarissa, good luck, go ahead.
What are you gonna say?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
So, just I want to celebrate something, just with my
fans and and with y'all fans to this is my
first gate where I've done over a million dollars, well
over a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
It's my first gate. We have over fifteen thousand people
who have bought tickets to come to the fight. I
am so just overjoyed by that. So all the fans
who are listening to, all my fans who love me,
thank y'all so much.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
It's only a few tickets left. So I want to
be able to say once we once I win this fight.
You know, we had to sold out Little Caesars Arena
here in Detroit, So please get the rest of your
tickets on ticket Master. It's not that many left. All
the floor sties are gone. And even if you're not
come into the fight.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
You for the all ticket, even if you ain't coming,
just so I can say I sold out, so help
me out.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Congratulations with all your success, two time goal with Olympic
gold medal winning boxer, Hey, undefeated heavyweight champ, your seventeen
time world champ, Miss Clarissa. Thank you Clarissa. Good luck
on Saturday, and we'll hope to see you soon.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Thank you, appreciate y'all, Thank you you.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Oh Hey, we got a special guest joining us, Old
Joe uh Chookur Stevenson. He just had a fight over
where you beat Williams debate a sipada uh Stevenson landed
two hundred and ninety five of five hundred and sixty
five punches thrown fifty two. Damn not landing ninety six
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jabs of two hundred and seven thrown forty six.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Damn did he move? Damn He'll punch it. He's a
punching bag.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
How do you have How do you hit somebody fifty
two percent of the time of punches land you hit
somebody forty six percent of the time of jazz thrown
and power shot. You let it and you hit somebody
fifty six percent of the time with power shots.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Can I just got you a su court.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Go ahead on, Joe, take off. I'm gonna let you
have it.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
He muted, Hey, you mute it.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
You We got you.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
You're good.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
I gave you, not.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Were good. Thanks for joining us. We give you.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
We wanted to get we wanted to get you in. Uh,
we're gonna give you a proper introduction because you know,
but go ahead, go ahead, oh Joe, I'm gonna let
you take it off.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Take off.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Now your probably gonna say I'm just read off the
stats and and a lot of people don't really understand
how good you are offensively when it comes lit'sten your
defensive offense.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
They don't understand how.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Good you are.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
How does it feel for all those that doubted saying
he's always running, he doesn't stand there and fight.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
To show the world that you can also put on
the box and clinic. You can sit in the pocket.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Against a pressure fighter where everywhere everybody thought, because he's
a pressure fighter, you would be running around. But what
you did, You sat in the pocket, You created dissance,
You stayed at mid range and you put on a
fucking clinic. What was your game plan going into that fight?
Speaker 8 (39:59):
Honestly, man, my game plan was different than what I
did on fight night.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Right.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
I talked with my coaches. My coaches had a certain
game plan. They wanted me to outbox and move from
make them frustrated with my feet. But bro, it was
like I wanted to do the unexpected, Like he kind
of expected me to go in there and move around
and Tom and Jerry all week right right right For me,
it was like, shit, I want to do what he
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think that I'm not going to do.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
So I went in there, I stood in the pocket.
I put on a perfect display of boxing.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
And also.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
A lot of people here they doubt it, but like
it feels regular for me, like it's nothing new, it's
nothing different because I already knew what I was built wing.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
You can't see me work before you know who I am.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 8 (40:44):
It wasn't nothing new for me.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Like it was, it was very much regular when it
when it comes to when it comes to different fighters,
obviously fighting someone fighting a pressure fighter, found fighting a
fighter that's a counterpuncher.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
How much goes in a game planning for.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
That individual fighter, and how I don't want to say
the right way, knowing that he's gonna apply pressure the
whole time most of the time. That's the way he fights.
He fights everybody the same way. What went into your
game plan where your coach is saying they want to
use your feet, but you chose, you know what, forget
what you'all talking about. I'm finna sit in the pocket
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and it's not gonna be a banging match. I'm gonna
just I'm gonna make sure my my defense.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
Is my offense.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
And obviously, statistically the punch you hit ninety ninety fifty
two of punches landed, you had power.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
I mean, just everything effing worked.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
And at what point did you realize he was frustrated
because his game plan wasn't working, even though he tried
to adjust.
Speaker 8 (41:42):
I knew he was frustrated in like the sixth round, Yes,
when I seen him kind of start thinking and and
he kind of like settled down a little bit. He
wasn't like as aggressive as he was first hid for
the fight, So boom, I.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
Kind of like I had a good game plan. My
coaches said they had a great game plan, but for
me on my brain is working a different way. I know,
I'm the one that's in there fighting, so trying to
be thinking on the spot.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
But he was.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
He was a tough fighter. He kind of pushed me.
I've been telling everybody the whole week. I said, this
guy's going to bring out the best of me on
this job. Y'all think that I can't sit in the pocket,
y'all think that I can't fight. So this is a
guy that I'm gonna show all of these different tools
and things.
Speaker 8 (42:24):
And we came in and we did what we.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Had to do. Is that the first time that you
kind of going away from what the game plan was
kind of probably what you practice in training camp, because
like you said, it was gonna be Tom and Jerry.
You're gonna, you know, box him, use your speed, use
use all your movement. And you said, you know what, now,
I'm gonna sit here because that was a knock on you,
shoukrd Man.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
He ain't fighting nobody.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I mean, not only does he not fight anybody, He
duck and he ain't sitting in the pocket. He ain't
throwing no lever. He running around, got everybody chasing me.
He picking him off like that he said, the hell
with that, let me show you what I can do.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:58):
You know, like I said, I've been dow that. I've
been knew that, but that.
Speaker 7 (43:02):
Wasn't my first time going with my instincts. I think
my instincts kind of take over a lot come quite nice.
So I kind of watched this dude over and over
and over. I've seen a lot of weaknesses. I also
knew that me chilling on the.
Speaker 8 (43:17):
Ropes wasn't as bad as what everybody made it seem
to be.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Like, yeah, especially just damn commentators.
Speaker 8 (43:24):
Yeah yeah, but in a in a sport, you're not
supposed to do that, Like you're not supposed to be
sitting on the ropes. It's a bad thing to do.
Speaker 7 (43:33):
But somebody like me, I kind of open guys up,
like they feel more comfortable to open up when they
when they get me to the ropes.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
So basically, to me, every time you sat on the ropes,
you go to go in to Philly shell and then
all you're doing is you're baiting him and the throwing punches,
and you know, if he throws six, I can roll
and block five and count in between.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
And it worked every single time where at some point
to pay that. Okay, you have to make adjustments.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Make it because he's sitting on the rope for for
a reason and bent you to throw.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
As soon as you throw, you roll one way, roll
the other, slip slipper, jab in. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (44:15):
But also if you watch the second half of the fight,
my adjustment was to get off the rullers.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Right and stay in the middle of staying the sent
of the ring.
Speaker 7 (44:26):
I kind of took control off the fight, yeah, instead
of the ring, because I knew I don't know what
these judges is scoring.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
So I know.
Speaker 7 (44:36):
I know I'm ahead, but I still want to make
sure I leave my mark and make sure I don't
leave no room for the judges to rob me.
Speaker 8 (44:43):
So I kind of made that adjustment in the second
half of the fight.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Course, as you started off at the featherweight, now you're
a lightweight, and you know you're in that lightweight division
of one thirty five.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
You look at the grace that's.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Been in that division, the Robert of the Rams, Sweetpee, Whittaker, Chavez,
Henry Arms, Wrong Being Atlanta, the ghetto, the ghetto kid?
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Where are you now?
Speaker 6 (45:04):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Are you like?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
I'm gonna stay here? For a minute, or are you
going to go to super lightweight at one forty.
Speaker 8 (45:11):
Now I'm an actual lightweight.
Speaker 7 (45:13):
A lot of guys don't even realize I walk around
close to my fight with like how they talk about
God's life.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yes, yes, yes, he walked around close to his fight
three pounds four pounds.
Speaker 7 (45:23):
Either way, I don't I don't see myself getting no
bigger to fight at one hundred and forty pounds. Them
guys is a lot bigger than me. So if I
do it, it'll just be okay. I done did everything
at one hundred and thirty five pounds. I conquered the division,
and now it's trying to move up. So I'm comfortable here.
I want to be one of the best light wasts
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of all time, and my last flight was the kind
of the beginning of that
Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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sixteen wins, three KOs, the undisputed heavyweight women's champion of
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the world. Clarissa shields, Clarissa, how are you, maam?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
How are you doing amazing?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay, You're gonna be defending your heavyweight championship this weekend
in Detroit. You take on Landy Daniels at the Little
Caesar's Arena. I mean you just fought a couple of
weeks ago, Carrissa, Damn, you fight like the old stop
fighter used to fight.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I thought I'm fought in February. It's a while ago.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So let me ask you this, So you try to fight.
How many times are you realistically? Ideally?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Would you like to fight? A year? Two year, three,
a year?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I would love to fight. I don't know if my
phone frozen on you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes, the videos frozen, but we can hear you. She'll
be back she's having some technical difficulties. You know that happens.
I mean, hey, welcome to the world of television, live television.
Because this is unrehearsed, O Joe, we don't get to
cut and say, don't worry about it. We can go
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back and pick it up and we'll start from where
we left off.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
You're back now.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I ask, I say, ideally, how many times a year
would you like to fight?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I think three or four times is good for me,
you know, I think that I go on there, I win.
I don't really get scratched up and banged up too bad,
So three to four.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Is good for me.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You're taking on Landy Daniels in Detroit Little Caesars. What
do you hope to accomplish? Because and by many estimations,
if you are the you know, it's a short list
you and we're going to talk about that a little later.
The greatest women's boxes ever. So it's a only a
really short list. So taking on her, I mean, what
what do we hope to accomplish in this? What do
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we what are we gonna get? When you do what
you always do, come out here victorious?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
So Shannon, that's only one greatest weak okay, okay, by bad,
by bad talk to him that.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And that's okay.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
But what you can look forward to see it on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I don't know if you guys watched the All women's
card that happened with MVP July eleventh up in Masters.
Regarding a lot of those girls that fought were good.
They were ranked number two, three, and four in the world,
but number one did not did not fight, so you
didn't get to see the skills and the power and
everything that I possess.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So that's what you're gonna see on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
And I'm bringing you know, I'm packing the house with
fifteen thousand people. I'm well over a million dollars at
the gate already. We're gonna do how close to two million?
Outlet they gate?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I mean, I am coming on.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I'm coming out to put on the shelf a shell
for the people, and I'm coming there and I'm bringing power,
I'm bringing skills, I'm bringing speed, and I want to
show you why I worry these greatest.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Women of all time changed.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Hold on, I got a question this and I love
I'm boxing through this. I love I love thee I
love the sweet science, always have and been a fan
of yours for a very long time. All the thing
you've accomplished today to this point, obviously being the greatest
woman of all time, how do you stay motivated? How
do you stay motivated to want more? And after this
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fight against Lanny Daniels, what's next?
Speaker 6 (03:42):
First?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Just talk to me about the motivation and what keeps
you going once you've already achieved so much in the
sport that you love.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
You know, right now, I'm sixteen and er right and
I'm the only fours I'm undisputed champion, and I'm five
five divisions And did I say seventeen times to me now?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
And it's like, you know what, I want to retire
and I want them to say, Oh, Clarissa was fifty
time world champion.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know, Cressa was undefeated.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
She fought against the best, She didn't dunk nobody, She
made the best fight, She showcased her skills against anybody.
She was dominant. You know that motivates me. And like
the fact that you know, it's not many doughters out
there who believe that I'm not the greatest woman of
all time, right, but if there is any that's that
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motivates me to make them be fans, you know, like
they may not like me, but they will respect my
craft and know that, Okay, we may not like her
for what era their reasons are, but still respect my
craft and know that I'm the best at what I do.
And when I'm the best at what I do, you
really came to me because you're not the best at
what you do.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So in other words, you say, you're trying to convince
all You're trying to convert all those non believers into believers.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yes, just like Jesus did.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Okay, there's news that came.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Out you and Laila A Lee, who you know, when
she was fighting, she was the greatest woman a box
of all time. They here come you and you guys
have been going back and forth, and I think it's
being reported or you said you got fifteen MILLI you
said you want a fifteen million, Well we got that
and now yeah, so if you were to fight her, Clarissa,
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can I say this, I don't really see the upside
for you because if you beat her, she's almost fifty.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
She's forty seven.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And she said out her own mouth, for the past
couple of years, how this thing even first started?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
She said, she would not come out of retirement.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And fight nobody because nobody was good enough to give
her a challenge, knowing that me and her fought at
the same weight class. And people think that I start
the beef, but she said that, and I'm the number
one poppawn woman in the world. We fight out the
same way class. I got the belts I got dealing
the gold medals. She even said, I think when she
gonna broadcast when I was going for my first Olympic
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gold medal, she said, oh, if they would they had
the Olympics back when I was coming up, I would
have won the Olympic gold medal.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
And she wouldn't have. She wouldn't have. I'm being honest
with you, she wouldn't have.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
You know, everything that thing that Laylah says about me,
she's saying about herself.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
She says that I'm not like I don't have enough
skills to be her. She don't have enough skills to
even compete with me.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
The only thing thing that think that that Laila has
is her size. She is a big woman. I mean
big hands, big beet, big head. Like Layla is a
big la. No, I'm saying like she's still a beautiful woman.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Don't get me wrong, but she's.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
A big lad said that's a big target. You said
big head. Big head means big target.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, And if it was to fight, I would hit
that big.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You this, I'm gonna sit back and let you take it.
How did the relationship sour.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Her?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
When she did that?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
She go on in an interview and says, oh, I
would come my retirement, but there's no one good enough
to give me a challenge. There's no one's like, no
one's skilled enough, no one strong enough. I can just
come out of retirement after being out the being out
the ring.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
At this time, it probably was like thirteen play years.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
So she said that she can not box for thirteen
years in a professional boxing match, and there's nobody who
would give her a challenge, and she was to come
out of retirement, and then she even said she would
knock me out. People have to understand, Yeah, people got
to understand, Like, I don't take stuff like that lightly.
It's like, you know what, let's put your money where
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your mouth fits. I don't want to keep talking about Leilah.
I actually quit talking about her years ago because I'm like,
you know what, a fight's never gonna happen every year.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
She's getting older, she's never going to come out of retirement. Whatever.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
And then she come out and say, oh, the rumor
I heard is if Clarissa got fifteen to twenty mins,
then I well, I got your fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You called you called her blood Clarissa.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, and we are still waiting to hear a response.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Wait, so you you are you are?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
You are dead serious, regardless of age, regardless of how
long again said I've been out the ring, you will
still get in the ring and fight her.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Layla told you all herself she is a healthy forty seven,
she ain't old and ran down. She said she work out,
she still box, she jumped rope. She wrong, this was
she said, I just say it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
She said, it's still forty seven.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Hey, well people need to act, you know when they
say actual will act forty Well, well we'll act forty
seven because you don't want to come mincing with the
young lion who's hung. You know who got the fifteen
million to make a fight happen.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know you under that.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
I have a question, and I'm not I'm not clear.
I'm not known for predicting the future. But I already
know based on what I've seen, your resume speaks for herself.
Everything you've done in the ring to date speaks for herself.
Your last fight, if I'm not mistaken, was February. I
don't remember the exact day, but I did watch the fight.
Hell a performance you fight Live twenty this Saturday, Lady Daniels,
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what's after that? After you beat Miss Dames? That this
is no disrespect to her in her camping with what
they're what they're working on and hoping to accomplish.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
But we we know how the end result is going
to be. What's next after that?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I would love, like I said, to lock in the
fight with le Loley January February next year, tim obil
Arena reached out to us and want to host the fight.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Copboys, they don't want to host the fight.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You're the biggest women's boxing match in history, and it's
fifteen million for her, So I don't know what she
waiting on, but I know when I turned forty seven,
I wish one of these young girls would try to
test my gangster.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I'm coming right back to get that money fifteen for her?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
What if it you?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
We don't need to worry about what happened, not.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Because first of all, you know, I'm the I'm the
A side.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Okay, Yeah, let's not you know, boom, but it's more
of like a still it gets with your number.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
We got the numbers.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
We got the number.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
So if you think you can beat me up and
I'm just so not skilled and I ain't got no
power and I ain't good, well, okay after this, but
if that fight doesn't happen with Layla, I wanted to
have one more fight this year. Listen to anybody, should
they Chagrene? She just became champion recently a rematch with Franchise.
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Ye cannot mess with me. She can't fucking me at all.
But whatever, she got a belt, so if she want
to get banged up, she can get.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
How many belts you need, Clarissa Day, you got Mike seven.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I got seventeen, but I need fifty.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
I told you I have one more question. I have
one more question.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
And I understand there's a way difference obviously with with
with possibility, if if it's even possible for you to
come down or for her to go up with miss.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Miss Miss bunganer? Is that is that? Is that? Is it?
Anyway that's even possible?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You got to be joking.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
I'm just I'm just asking mama.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So so, so one so one. Me, Me and Alicia.
We we kind of squashed our beef.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
You know, probably okay, But Alicia know that it's the
difference between being good, ma'am. She's working her way towards
being great, you know, and she just ain't got enough.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
She ain't got enough asked behind, she.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Ain't got enough breaks in her back pocket.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
That's what you had to be able to.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
That's why I asked. That's why I ask. I mean, yeah, done.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So, if if it was a fight that could be made,
the laws would be one fifty four for me.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
She would have to come to fifty four. And I
think I saw her last year. She said she.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Weighed one forty seven back when she was doing her
you know, at Claresca Shields Tour, back when we was beefing,
and she got.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Up to one forty seven.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
So if she could, you know, come up to fifty
four and I go down to fifty four, I would
love to.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Make a fight with her. Just approve to her.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Listen, I can kill myself to make this weight and
then still come out here and beat you in the
boxy name.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Let me ask you this, what about a rehydration clause?
Because she's they're probably gonna want that because that I
mean you're coming down, You're coming down a couple of
weight classes to get to fifty four.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, I'm not gonna do no rehydration clause because when
you understand how you lose weight and how much water
is water is important, you don't you don't play us
with the games. So I would never put myself in
danger like that to where like I can make the way,
but not being able to read, to read to rehydrate.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
If this is just not good, unstandable, understandable. But hey,
can I can I put my hat? Can I put
my hat in the in the ring?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
So listen, if the fight happens with you and Leila
Ali for whatever reason, whatever the date may be, can
I be on the undercard?
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Please? I'm asking ahead of tam.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I just knew you was going to say something about
you fighting today. I just knew it.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
I knew it. And andre Ward we got some month
finished business. Who do you want me? And andre Ward?
We got some month finished business.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Oh justin go let we gotta match you a f.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
It's fair since it's fair and in the state in
the bottle.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Andre andre Ward Yeah, yeah, you know Lifetime people they love.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Up easy you mean Hines Ward, Hines Ward not and Hines.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, you're gonna have to go with like maybe a
ks No, no, no, no, don't do me like that.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Damn like that.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Don't do like that. Listen, he listen.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
We've been going at it back and forth for a
very long time, similar to how you and Alicia were,
similar how you and Leila lear So me and are Well,
we have to we have to squash this beef that
we have.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
It's it's a friend, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Sometimes the only way to squash the beef is to
fight you.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I tell you what. Sometimes you gotta get.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
So put us on on the car please, That's all
I mean.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
So, so if the fighting made, I would definitely let
my team know we need to get O, Joe and
andre Ward on the under I promise you I will
keep that in my mind and let them know.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Listen, this is on tape.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, I see you, Okay, putting this out right now.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
I'm smooth with the hands.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Now if o Jo fight andre Ward. I'm not going
to do partner for nightcap there.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
You don't believe in me?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Nah? Not against Audrey Ward.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Hold on time, my time.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
I if if, if this happens, I go in there
with a night with the with the with the with
the nightcap, trunks, the night roll, you know, and you
know I'm I'm representing us. You're gonna bet against me?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
A bitch?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Your boy?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Hey? They he probably knock them off. You you so they
be in the ring. I just go in the ring
and get them.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
So I got a question, Yes, Bail, if you were
to have a boxing match, who would you want to fight?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Again?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
If I had a boxing match, Yeah, Clarissa, I'm fifty seven.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I don't want to box nobody.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
No, don't do that. Don't do that because listen, it.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Got other men.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
That's fifty said. But who you who you want to
punch in the face? Man?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I done got you all. I ain't got no beef
no more.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Nah. May we can't do that man, because business, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I I'll punch a few folks in the.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Well.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You chose the right profession because it seems like you
gotta you got some anger issues.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Going on, Clarissa that you have to resolve what you
getting to the square?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Damn have you always I love boxing as a child,
did you? Did you fight a lot as a child.
Were you confrontational as a child. I mean, somebody say
something to clarifality like it's on site.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
People was confrontational to me? I want confrontation quite so, yep.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I didn't know how to talk till I was five,
and I stuted real bad till I was eleven years old.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I couldn't even talk completely, and people bullying me.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
That's and that's what made me angry, Like despite the
stuff that I went through.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
At home, now now I'm going to school, kids is
pulling my hair. Kids is taking my homework and copying
it and ripping it up. And so I went through that.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
First, second, first and second grade, and then when third
grade came, it was over. I was kicking butt, I
was kicking ass man. It was over for them after that.
And I learned that when you sent, when you stick
up for yourself, people leave you alone.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I didn't started bucking til sixty grade. So from the time.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Third grade all the way to the six I had
gotten into a few little street fights but they always
started with people.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Picking with me.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I never picked with people. I really didn't want to
fight because I didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Know if I if I could fight my It was
my anger that drove me to push people.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Put people, grab them and just see and you know,
see what I could do. But the first fight that
I ever got into was with my little sister Browna.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
And when I tell you, brown up with my ass.
When I was eight nine years old, Brianna beat the
shit out of me.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You didn't want to go through that anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
M sister was a minutes to society. Man. She could
do so much mean stuff to me growing up. Man,
I'm telling you, it was wild.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But let me let me ask Let me ask you this, Clarissa,
if you can fight any woman past the present? Obviously,
Laila leads on the on the car because you know,
the big payday you're talking about is probably a million
plus prey per view, viyes probably if it's at Jerry's World,
you're talking about seventy eighty thousand fans, key Mobile, you'll
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probably sell that out. But if I mean, who would
you like to fight? Would you like to fight and Wolf?
Would you like to fight Christy Martin, the cole Miner's daughter.
Who would you like to fight?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I would. I would stop Christy Martin.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's not even a competition, A little small for you,
I will I.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Would knock her out. So now next the only other
woman that'd be a.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Dream fight for me? If I would have to say
one being being and Wolf and two k Taylor Kenny
because her skills are phenomenal. The girl can box, can bang,
she can figure it out.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
She's a highly competitive stinker in size and ring and
she wins all her fights that way. She may I
knock you out, but she's gonna outthink you and I
would love to share a ring with her if we
were near the same size. But she's one forty and
like I said, loads, I can go as one fifty four.
And then as far as an Ann Wolf, listen.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And was she was?
Speaker 6 (18:54):
She was?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
She was vicious.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
People.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
People know Layla because Layla had the name, and Layla
was a good boxer. But for Layla and Ann Wolf
to be in the same way class and to never
fight and camp in the same era, we all know Layla.
I'll leave duck the end Wolf and why she ducked
Ann Wolf because Ann Wolf would knock your dim head off.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
And that's a fight.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Even I watched the an Wolf documentary on YouTube when
I was a kid. I watched her push trucks and
punch bags and lift weights and if you look up
ann Wolf versus vonder Ward, the biggest knockout in women's boxing.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I dream to have a knockout like that.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I a dream match between her and I I would
love to have only because I don't think I can
be knocked out, but with her in the first three rounds,
I had to be very worried about that.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I think I can box and I can.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Move and I can figure her out and I got
enough power to deal with my own.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
But man, she catch it on first three rounds. It's
some stuff you got to fight through.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
So that would be a dream fight for me if
we were in the same era and we were fighting.
But that would be somebody who I'm like, Yo, that's
the woman who I'm kind of intimidated by. And just
to mention her, She's coming to my fight on Saturday
to support me and be there for me. And this
is one of my idols, you know, And I'm just
so happy that she's coming.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, you need people that don't know about Ann Wolf.
You need to You need a Google her or YouTuber
or whatever you need to do, because she definitely had
dynamite in her hands. I mean, she was a vicious
she was ferocious.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
She was So I have one more question. I got
one more question. Listen.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
We know how great you are, greatest woman of all
time when it comes to boxing.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
What other passion once you're done playing? I'm about playing.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Once you're done boxing, once the sweet science, once you
hang the gloves up. What other hobbies are you interested in?
What else is it that you like to do outside
of the ring?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Music.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I just have my listening party today and very well,
you know everybody. I had nine songs and they rated
all my songs and ten.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
I was social good.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I like music, and honestly, I'm a big community person.
I want to train young girls and young boys.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Who come from environments that I grew up in, and
I want to teach them boxing so boxing can help
them like it helped me. You know, it really changed
my life and helped me redirect my anger.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
And I really don't.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Look like what I've what I've been through, So I
want to get back to communities and help people learn
self defense. And I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna have
kids within my career, so I don't have to stop
in my career to do that.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Let me ask you. Let's say this for the sake
of argument. Leila says, you know what, Clarissa, you won't
this work. I'm gonna give you this work, but I
want you to put that chain up. I want you
to put the gloat up. And if I beat you,
I don't ever want to hear you say mentioned greatest
woman of all time. I don't want that. I want
that chain. You're gonna put the chain up?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yea?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And me? She wants the little one. I won't. He
won't that right there, because.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
That's the one that caught a honey.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's what that's what she want.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, she's she come out retirement and she shut me
up and beat me up around her neck. I'll put
her on the neck and I snap it clothes for
and let her. You can have it.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Boo wow, you can have it.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
That's but that's how confident I know that this ain't
what she wants.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You seem very happy. You seem very happy.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Maybe it's because a lot of your your your personal
life has been made public, and maybe you had someone
in your life that was behind the scenes. But watching you,
you know, we know some of the same people we
know Jamie Fritz. But watching you now, you seem a
lot more at peace. You seem a lot, a lot
more happy than you were in the past. Am I
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assuming too much? Am I reading too much into your
body language and the way you're moving now?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
No, I have to say that one.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I'm I'm thirty years old now, but I can say
that since I've met Pap, I've met Pat Pools, he has.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Brought a whole different woman out of me. I guess,
like I listen to him.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
He can tell me to be quiet, okay, and he
knows how to fight, you know, so I can't bully
him around the and you know, he is just so
he's so kind to me and he's so helpful that
I've always had to do everything myself, you know, And
that's dealing with my family, dealing with my friend, dealing
with my business.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I've had to do everything myself since seventeen years old.
And now I have somebody that really like have my
back and my best interests and who I mean, looks
after me.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
When I don't even want him looking after me, like
he's so protective, and you know, I think that with him,
I wouldn't be able to like I would be happy
because I was working all my happiness before I met him,
But meeting him it just gave me, Like I think,
when you find your person, you can just talk to
him about anything and about any problem.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Like I call him and listen, I talked most shit than.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
A little bit, and I call him about I called
him about everything, and I mean he always has his
ear open to communicate and talk with me and give
me great advice and also to let me know, like, look,
you're wrong here, you know, And.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
I just appreciate that. It's so many tweets and so
many posts that.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I was about to put up, he just like, he like,
don't do it. It's because he knows my bigger picture
and he's helping me get to that. So I think
that with him helping me and him being so supportive,
of him being so kind to me, it's really just.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I don't know, I feel like.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I have I have a great a great partner in crime,
and we and we're going somewhere special. So yeah, you
can you can say that he made me more want.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I think to someone to share that because I guess
for the longest time I heard you, you know, talk,
I've seen you on different platforms than you're talking about
how your family when you became successful, even though you
did all of that, they still some of them turned
their back on you. And still the more you gave,
the more they wanted. And it's said, and you said,
you and I and I took.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Note of this. You said they didn't want what you
gave them. They want what you had. What do you
mean by that?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Tell our chat that didn't hear you on other platforms
talk about that?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
What did you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
They don't they don't want what you give them.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
You can give them one hundred dollars, you can give
them a car, you can give them a house, you
can give them food.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
They don't they don't want that. They want what you have.
So so what do you have?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
You got a nice house, you got the popping YouTube channels,
you got the million dollar partnerships and endorsement and sponsorships.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
They want that.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
They don't want when you're giving them a thousand dollars
and ten thousand and fifteen thousand dollars. When you helping them,
when you're paying their bills, you buying them cars.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
They don't want that. They want your car, they want
your house.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
But that day, absolutely, and that's where for a long time,
you know, I didn't know how to say no. And
when I started saying no, that's what people who I
say yes to before hundreds of times had the biggest issue.
That's when it was oh, she boogie, Oh she don't
care about her family. She don't take care of nobody.
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And you know, out of everything that I've been through,
the hardest one to deal with doing that was my
younger sister because we came up together, you know, and
she got three kids, and I help her to take
care of her kids like all her kids caught me mama,
like her kids is my kids? When she have eleven
year old, an eight year old and a five year old,
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and it's my little niece. And no, nobody wouldn't people
think that I have kids because I have them so much.
And you know, I'm the type of auntie where I'm
sending groceries every week, I'm buying clothes, I'm buying school clothes.
So for me, the hardest part when I start going
through that. A lot of other people did it too,
but it was her that really hurt me.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Because she was the closest, the most.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yeah, and we got say mama, same daddy, And she
really is like people see me as this light and shining,
you know star, but Brianna is my darkness. You know,
she is my darkness and she's the opposite of me.
But she understands that I got that same darkness inside
of me. I just show the light all the time,
but she's like how I am inside the ring.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Brianna is like that every single day of her life.
She will she will.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Literally put hands on you like she will knock you out,
Like she send me videos of her fighting or the time, like, Brian.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
You need to stop, but she will knock your head
clean off.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You need to get some did Clarissa, have you had
a conversation with your sister.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Did you tell your sister like.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
This hurts me after everything that I've done for you
and your kids, which are my nieces and nephews, After
everything that I've done, Brie, really, this is the way
you behave this is the way you act towards me.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Social media social media has his pros and times.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
But when she's seen an interview that I did with
andre Ward and where I was crying, you know, she
caught me and she said, everybody's talking about it herd
at the top.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
She said, well, damn, it's her at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Too, but that's not your father.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
No.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
But I'm like, I'm like what you mean.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
She was like, rest. You know, I'm struggling all the
time and you're not. So that's where in the mossity came.
Like even though I was, you know, even though I
was helping her, people getting in her mind her head
telling her your sister should do more, when it was like,
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I've done a lot for you. So when we talked,
she was like rest. She you know, one we went
four months without talking, which my family knows that I
don't do that. I talked to my mom and my dad,
even they made me upset. I still talk to them.
I really went on like a hiatus where I ain't
talk to my sister for like four months, and then
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she would have the kids called me, and I would
only talked to the kids and I wouldn't talk to her.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
And it went on for four months.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
And one day she just hit me and was like, look,
I want my sister back.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
You know, I'm sorry. I messed up. I'll never do
it again.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
And you know, it is what it is. You know,
you know that I got you through whatever, you know.
But I just feel like, Yo, where I'm trying to
get to in my career. I can't have any going
live on Facebook lying on me telling folks not to
get tickets to the fights. And she's like, I can't.
I can't have that, And I mean it was deep
the stuff that she did, but she had people.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
That your sister.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
You know, normally when family says something about an individual
because they're so close, y'all grew up together. This is
not some arbitrary, some willingly person talking. This is your
blood suster.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah, And that was the problem that I had was
everybody took her word for face value when and then
I didn't want to get on a social media back
and defend myself because it was like, oh, I'm trying
to be above that, but I.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Literally had to. It started affecting.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Take yourself from my last for my fight with two
years ago, and I'm like, it was a week of the.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Fight, you know, So she's telling people oh, she on
the red crocodile tears.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
You know, don't come to the fight. She don't support
her family. She bought one of her friends a house,
which I did not, but people believed that and it
was like I had to, Clarissa, get on there and
try to clear it up.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
But you know, people love.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Negative before you go that that issue that you having, Clarissa,
all athletes, not just all athletes. I can only speak
from from our perspective and playing football and having to
talk to rookie before and learning to say no because
your family. When it comes to your family, your family
redrain you. They were drained because in the hard part
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for athletes and players, they have to understand it's okay
to take care of your family. It's it's okay to
enjoy the fruit to your labor and blessing those back
that help you along the way. But those that take
they have no limits because they don't they don't understand
what it took to get to that point because a
reason they have nothing. Sometimes you know, obviously there the
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unfortunate circumstances that happened, but when one person makes it,
they expect that one person to be the gold ticket,
the golden ticket, and they continue to take over and
over and over and never knowing when to stop until
that well run dry. So at some point, the hard
part of being the one that makes it out the
family is knowing when to say no, because at some
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point if you can tee to pull that water from
the well at some point and gonna run dry.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, I agree, Clarissa.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I think the thing is what I tell people, that
is a great gesture if you choose to help brother, sister, cousin, aunt, uncle,
but you're non no obligation. See people, See people have
got this notion because we came up in the same house,
or I saw you from a child, or I changed
difles on you, that that obligates you to take come
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someone for the rest of their life, or buy them
a house, or buy them a car out of the
kindness of your heart. That is a suppert That is
an unbelievable gesture. But we've got to stop trying to
put that burden, trying to guilt people in because because
the first thing they're gonna say, you know what they say, Clarissa,
and I had this and note you, I know you've
had it.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
If it was me, I help you you know.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
It's the one.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
If I was you, I'll help you more than you
hear me. So they don't even care about how much
helping them. They just saying, oh, I do way more
for you, and I'm like, no, no, you would.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
And the first thing when there's no more money, and
somebody said, man, what happened off paristals money? Man, I
don't know what she did with that money. I gave
it to you. I had to help you. You you
you you, And now I ain't got no money, ain't
nobody got no money.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And now y'all talked about y'all don't know where the
money went.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
I had to I had to tell myself. I said, listen,
if I was to stop boxing the day and I
ain't have another dollar, who would pay my bills? I
got a four thousand dollar mortgage on my seven hundred
FIFTUD dollars house up in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
House, I own a few cribs.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
You know you're talking to a ball.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I got hold on your list on. You don't be
in my basky now, but our own houses and cars.
I'm just beat out here with the blein bleing. Oh
t I'm you know what I'm saying sometimes some stuff
you see it and be like, hold on that right there,
the knockoff, but this right.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Here, come on now, you know?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
So no, for me, it was like I said, if
I stop right now, who will pay these bills? These
car notes?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
You know?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
For how I like to eat, I like to eat.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I'm a heavyweight. I like to eat sake and eat
at the finest places. So I'm like, right now, I'm
probably my bills altogether, probably about ten thousand dollars with
all my bills together. So it was like, right now,
if I had to freeze my bank account and I
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and I couldn't use my money, who would help me
pay that ten thousand dollars make sure that I got
my house, my car, my insurance, everything, who will help
do that? And it's sad to say, but it's not
many folks who you can rely on, or people to
even team up, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
So that's why I'd be like, hey, I'm so glad
you just said that. I'm so glad you just said that.
For those that are in the chat, I'm not sure
how much you help your family, but I know everyone
else is gonna see this, especially my fellow athletes, whatever
it is you play rappers web be like, just think
about that hypothetically, Like Clarissa just said, if just so happened,
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God happened, you ran out everything, go through your phone
right now and whatever your overhead is a month or
whatever you may need.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Who can you call on your phone right now that
you know, no matter what, they gonna say, yes.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
That you yes, say, I can tell you right now.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
My best friend Nimmi will probably be like, hey, I
can't pay your ten thousand dolllarge. You can come stay
with me and I make sure you need everybody until
you get back on your feet. But ain't nobody going
to be like, hey we got ten thousand for your month. Oh,
ain't no path pap wall take care of me here.
But I'm thinking of like, not my relationship, but you know,
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family stuff. It's not It's not one person I.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Could I could call.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Clarissa, thanks for stopping by, good luck on the fight,
and please, please, if this fight is to get made
with you and Laila Ali, please come back on night cap.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Of course, you know I'm supposed to come back and
do like the the Big One. Yeah, yeah, I sposed
to do club, So.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Let me go.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
We can lock.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Hold on, Wait a minute, wait a minute, you talk
about after this fight, the next fight that she does
do I'm on the undercar.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Remember, oh Joe, we're talking about this. I told you,
I told you five nights a week. I don't need
you to bring your black ants back. I'm talking to her.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I told you all the time. Clarissa, good luck, go ahead.
What are you gonna say?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
So, just I want to celebrate something, just with my
fans and and with y'all fans to this is my
first gate where I've done over a million dollars, well
over a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
It's my first gate. We have over fifteen thousand people
who have bought tickets to come to the fight. I
am so just overjoyed by that. So all the fans
who are listening to, all my fans who love me,
thank y'all so much.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
It's only a few tickets left. So I want to
be able to say once we once I win this fight.
You know, we had to sold out Little Caesars Arena
here in Detroit, So please get the rest of your
tickets on ticket Master. It's not that many left. All
the floor sties are gone. And even if you're not
come into the fight.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
You for the all ticket, even if you ain't coming,
just so I can say I sold out, so help
me out.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Congratulations with all your success, two time goal with Olympic
gold medal winning boxer, Hey, undefeated heavyweight champ, your seventeen
time world champ, Miss Clarissa. Thank you Clarissa. Good luck
on Saturday, and we'll hope to see you soon.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Thank you, appreciate y'all, Thank you you.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Oh Hey, we got a special guest joining us, Old
Joe uh Chookur Stevenson. He just had a fight over
where you beat Williams debate a sipada uh Stevenson landed
two hundred and ninety five of five hundred and sixty
five punches thrown fifty two. Damn not landing ninety six
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jabs of two hundred and seven thrown forty six.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Damn did he move? Damn He'll punch it. He's a
punching bag.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
How do you have How do you hit somebody fifty
two percent of the time of punches land you hit
somebody forty six percent of the time of jazz thrown
and power shot. You let it and you hit somebody
fifty six percent of the time with power shots.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Can I just got you a su court.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Go ahead on, Joe, take off. I'm gonna let you
have it.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
He muted, Hey, you mute it.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
You We got you.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
You're good.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
I gave you, not.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Were good. Thanks for joining us. We give you.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
We wanted to get we wanted to get you in. Uh,
we're gonna give you a proper introduction because you know,
but go ahead, go ahead, oh Joe, I'm gonna let
you take it off.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Take off.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Now your probably gonna say I'm just read off the
stats and and a lot of people don't really understand
how good you are offensively when it comes lit'sten your
defensive offense.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
They don't understand how.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Good you are.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
How does it feel for all those that doubted saying
he's always running, he doesn't stand there and fight.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
To show the world that you can also put on
the box and clinic. You can sit in the pocket.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Against a pressure fighter where everywhere everybody thought, because he's
a pressure fighter, you would be running around. But what
you did, You sat in the pocket, You created dissance,
You stayed at mid range and you put on a
fucking clinic. What was your game plan going into that fight?
Speaker 8 (39:59):
Honestly, man, my game plan was different than what I
did on fight night.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Right.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
I talked with my coaches. My coaches had a certain
game plan. They wanted me to outbox and move from
make them frustrated with my feet. But bro, it was
like I wanted to do the unexpected, Like he kind
of expected me to go in there and move around
and Tom and Jerry all week right right right For me,
it was like, shit, I want to do what he
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think that I'm not going to do.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
So I went in there, I stood in the pocket.
I put on a perfect display of boxing.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
And also.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
A lot of people here they doubt it, but like
it feels regular for me, like it's nothing new, it's
nothing different because I already knew what I was built wing.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
You can't see me work before you know who I am.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 8 (40:44):
It wasn't nothing new for me.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Like it was, it was very much regular when it
when it comes to when it comes to different fighters,
obviously fighting someone fighting a pressure fighter, found fighting a
fighter that's a counterpuncher.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
How much goes in a game planning for.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
That individual fighter, and how I don't want to say
the right way, knowing that he's gonna apply pressure the
whole time most of the time. That's the way he fights.
He fights everybody the same way. What went into your
game plan where your coach is saying they want to
use your feet, but you chose, you know what, forget
what you'all talking about. I'm finna sit in the pocket
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and it's not gonna be a banging match. I'm gonna
just I'm gonna make sure my my defense.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
Is my offense.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
And obviously, statistically the punch you hit ninety ninety fifty
two of punches landed, you had power.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
I mean, just everything effing worked.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
And at what point did you realize he was frustrated
because his game plan wasn't working, even though he tried
to adjust.
Speaker 8 (41:42):
I knew he was frustrated in like the sixth round, Yes,
when I seen him kind of start thinking and and
he kind of like settled down a little bit. He
wasn't like as aggressive as he was first hid for
the fight, So boom, I.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
Kind of like I had a good game plan. My
coaches said they had a great game plan, but for
me on my brain is working a different way. I know,
I'm the one that's in there fighting, so trying to
be thinking on the spot.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
But he was.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
He was a tough fighter. He kind of pushed me.
I've been telling everybody the whole week. I said, this
guy's going to bring out the best of me on
this job. Y'all think that I can't sit in the pocket,
y'all think that I can't fight. So this is a
guy that I'm gonna show all of these different tools
and things.
Speaker 8 (42:24):
And we came in and we did what we.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Had to do. Is that the first time that you
kind of going away from what the game plan was
kind of probably what you practice in training camp, because
like you said, it was gonna be Tom and Jerry.
You're gonna, you know, box him, use your speed, use
use all your movement. And you said, you know what, now,
I'm gonna sit here because that was a knock on you,
shoukrd Man.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
He ain't fighting nobody.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I mean, not only does he not fight anybody, He
duck and he ain't sitting in the pocket. He ain't
throwing no lever. He running around, got everybody chasing me.
He picking him off like that he said, the hell
with that, let me show you what I can do.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:58):
You know, like I said, I've been dow that. I've
been knew that, but that.
Speaker 7 (43:02):
Wasn't my first time going with my instincts. I think
my instincts kind of take over a lot come quite nice.
So I kind of watched this dude over and over
and over. I've seen a lot of weaknesses. I also
knew that me chilling on the.
Speaker 8 (43:17):
Ropes wasn't as bad as what everybody made it seem
to be.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Like, yeah, especially just damn commentators.
Speaker 8 (43:24):
Yeah yeah, but in a in a sport, you're not
supposed to do that, Like you're not supposed to be
sitting on the ropes. It's a bad thing to do.
Speaker 7 (43:33):
But somebody like me, I kind of open guys up,
like they feel more comfortable to open up when they
when they get me to the ropes.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
So basically, to me, every time you sat on the ropes,
you go to go in to Philly shell and then
all you're doing is you're baiting him and the throwing punches,
and you know, if he throws six, I can roll
and block five and count in between.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
And it worked every single time where at some point
to pay that. Okay, you have to make adjustments.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Make it because he's sitting on the rope for for
a reason and bent you to throw.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
As soon as you throw, you roll one way, roll
the other, slip slipper, jab in. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (44:15):
But also if you watch the second half of the fight,
my adjustment was to get off the rullers.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Right and stay in the middle of staying the sent
of the ring.
Speaker 7 (44:26):
I kind of took control off the fight, yeah, instead
of the ring, because I knew I don't know what
these judges is scoring.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
So I know.
Speaker 7 (44:36):
I know I'm ahead, but I still want to make
sure I leave my mark and make sure I don't
leave no room for the judges to rob me.
Speaker 8 (44:43):
So I kind of made that adjustment in the second
half of the fight.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Course, as you started off at the featherweight, now you're
a lightweight, and you know you're in that lightweight division
of one thirty five.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
You look at the grace that's.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Been in that division, the Robert of the Rams, Sweetpee, Whittaker, Chavez,
Henry Arms, Wrong Being Atlanta, the ghetto, the ghetto kid?
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Where are you now?
Speaker 6 (45:04):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Are you like?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
I'm gonna stay here? For a minute, or are you
going to go to super lightweight at one forty.
Speaker 8 (45:11):
Now I'm an actual lightweight.
Speaker 7 (45:13):
A lot of guys don't even realize I walk around
close to my fight with like how they talk about
God's life.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yes, yes, yes, he walked around close to his fight
three pounds four pounds.
Speaker 7 (45:23):
Either way, I don't I don't see myself getting no
bigger to fight at one hundred and forty pounds. Them
guys is a lot bigger than me. So if I
do it, it'll just be okay. I done did everything
at one hundred and thirty five pounds. I conquered the division,
and now it's trying to move up. So I'm comfortable here.
I want to be one of the best light wasts
(45:44):
of all time, and my last flight was the kind
of the beginning of that
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