July 22, 2025 • 40 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson dive into the biggest NFL headlines of the week! The surprising news that Kenny Pickett is leading the Browns QB1 race over rookie Shedeur Sanders and recap the NFLPA drama.
0:00 - Anthony Richardson bounce back year?
8:34 - NFLPA union overhaul
25:30 - Kenny Picket to be Browns QB1?
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Carly Er Sat Gordon believes twenty three year old Anthony
Richardson can still play well enough to justify the coach's
lofty expectations for him before the draft. Where he is
in his career and the deal as a rookie, we
still have time. He still has time to prove it
bring a sense of urgency, and nothing brings the sense
of urgency more than competition. But before Richardson can prove
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it on the field, he has to prove it in
training camp by beating out Daniel Jones and the Colts
quarterback competition. Ar career completion percentage is just fifty point
six percent percent. He has eleven touchdowns and thirteen interceptions.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Listen, he has to prove with it more than just
on the field.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It proved locker room.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
He has to prove with it more than just in
the field.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Feel.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
He has to prove it inside the building, showing the
coaches that you're serious about wanting to be quarterback number
one for your team.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
It ain't just doing it on the field.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
In the funeral room, being the first one to get there,
being the last one to leave that building. You know,
when it comes to everything else, just just's he's always
he's been injured a lot, right, so treatment, getting treatment,
doing it, being on time, not missing those doing the
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extra work, staying after practice, throwing.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
There's so many different things.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
See, the president has already been set on what it
takes to be a great quarterback with Peyton Manning.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
All of them. I mean, the quarterback said getting treatment.
They got their playbook.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Hey, you have to want it. You got to want
it the same, the same want. Let's see, I'm sure
he has a hobby. I'm not sure what his hobby is.
But whatever that hobby may be, football gotta come first.
But the same joy and passionate love you have for
that hobby, you got to pour it into football. Whatever
your hobby be, that's gonna be there. Oh, it's gonna
be there because the bulky money that's gonna be made
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and can come from this, It come from this. You
got you got to understand that. So I'm listen. The
rightness on the wall. You talk about nothing brings the
best out of someone like competition. Well this is more
than competition because they just paid someone where it didn't
work out, and god damn New York and they just
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bought somebody for one year with fourteen million. That's basically
telling you your job is in jeopardy or they already
rending the stone, that your job is already his. And
no matter what you do, you might not be able
to be the power right and if you don't, if
you don't want the starting.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Job here, and then that you don't want a starting.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Job, that you you won't be a starter again.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
In general, Well, you ain't gonna be no starting to
end if you don't beat Daniel Jones out because it
don't make no sense to keep you.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
And and you look at it all all the other
thirty one teams, they're set at the quarterback nation, they're
set at the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
News see the nine never ojo Yeah, no, never, I.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Hate I hate saying that too.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's just the reality of it. They put a lot
into you, They drafted you a lot on potential. Yeah,
because it was never No, it was a situation. It
wasn't a situation where you were polished. Everybody knew you
were a project. And then they said that going into
the combine. But then as big as you are, as
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strong as you were, as fast as you ran, you
shot up the draft board.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
You can't you can You can't pass upon that. You
just can't, especially the way scouts think.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, especially the way we can't pass up on that.
But he has a potential.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Thing, and I get it. But he hasn't got any better.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
He was a project in high school, he was a
project in college.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
He's a project now. He's like that church building fund.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That thing ain't never been completed, and we still pouring
more money into it, and the church building fund, and
the building has never been complete.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Not the church building.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You know what I ain't in our community.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
We know everybody know about that building fund, and that's
that building ain't complete yet and they still taking up
money every day for Sunday. That's Anthony richardson your church
building fund. He ain't complete yet. I don't know if
he'll ever be complete.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
O joke, right, I'm hoping. I'm hoping. He got all
the resources.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Look at what he got.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
It got everything now, Pittman Jr.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Eric Pierce. You got Jonathan Taylor, Barry good offensive line?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, man, come on, bro, Yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Ain't got No, he don't got no slots skill players
around him now.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
No, absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
There ain't no exuse.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
None I can see o jo he said, well, he
don't really have nothing around him.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Come on, o ya, I mean he needs a bro.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Nobody in their right mind can say this man does
not have talent around him at the skill position. You
look at the wide receivers. He still has a top
five running back in Jonathan Taylor, he has a solid
offensive line.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Ain't no reason for him to undachieve like he's been unachieved. Now.
I get it, he's been hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But bro, if you get your opportunity, you better seize
the moment that this might be your last chance.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
In ended.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oho, a video circulating of kp KLF Plumb appearing to
call like Caitlin Clark Clark at the w NBA All
Star Weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Take a look at this video.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
That was a very powerful moment. We didn't, at least
as players, we didn't know that that was going to happen.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
So I think it was kind of like.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
A genuine surprise. But the T shirt just united front
was determined this morning that we had a meeting for
and uh, you know, not to not to chattle tale,
but zero members of Team Clark were very present for that.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But no, we were just uh, we we had a very.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Uh I really needed to be mentioned.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
I'm trying to make a situation like okay, but but yeah, no,
I think it was just all of us getting on
the same page for the game. We wanted to do
something that was just united and collective. And I thought
that it was a very powerful moment and got the
point across. And you know, sometimes you don't have to
say anything.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, she tried to make a lot of the situation. Look,
I like KP. She was great when she was here.
I saw saw them play last year out here in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Ain't nobody ask you that? No, no, don't do that,
don't do that. Would you think something or nothing?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Nah, ain't nothing, ain't nothing.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
But obviously you anytime you mentioned CC's name, you already
you you already know what is going to get good,
badd and different.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Different, Right. Yeah, but she did. She did the best
she could to to make life a situation.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's just like you know, certain Lebron. You mentioned Lebron,
you already know what's coming with that. Yeah, you know,
some people just are polarizing. That's the term polarizing, and
that's Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But uh, hey, y'all, have to play some d next year, though,
y'all get like the dup. Y'all get like the NBA.
Ain't nobody coming to see No. One hundred and thirty
up ad points? They score like one thirty one forty something. Yeah,
come on, now, now the couple don't get like that.
Don't get like the NBA.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Now. No no, no.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
No, no, no, no, no no, not one fifty one
no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, come on, ladies,
oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
More changes are coming to the leadership of the NFL
Players Association. Chief Strategist Officer J. C. Treader has resigned
from his post to miss scrutiny over hiring former NFLPA
executive director Lloyd I'll excuse me, who resigned. On July eighteenth,
p Matt pat McAfee didn't mint mince words about the
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NFLPA leadership following Grip Club allegations. The NFLPA has been
led by people who could much rather be known than
the heads of the NFLPA than actual work and act
like they are heads of the nfl PA. These dudes
think their celebrities. These dudes think they're powerful. These dudes
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have all of their friends and overpaid them with players' money.
Then these dudes flex while using and abusing all the
connections that the players and the league have worked their
assets off, their entire lives for, and act like sanctnemonious
heroes through it all.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Oh, Joe, we kind of touched on this a little bit.
Look we did earlier.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
This all happened. Pablo Torri is Pablo still working with ESPN.
He has his own thing, and he's a lawyer. He's
a Harvey grad very smart. I've never met the guy,
but just watching him listening to him talk, he's a
very smart guy, very shrewd.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And he went digging and he.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Found some information, yes, that about a judge that said, yeah,
they kind of they the owners. And there was writing
between Jeff Passion and I think Roger Goodell. There's a
memos saying we got to get these we got to
get this guaranteed money down because it's getting our regis
blah blah blah. There was a speaking gun. Now the
NFL do a better job than gone underground. With that
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being said, Lloyd Lloyd Howell was in trouble.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I don't know how you get a job at the
NFLPA head when you work with a company that a
private equity firm that did your job is to go
try to find investors to buy NFL teams. And if
I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong, but I think
like if you're at the head of the if you're
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like a players association, so like you're the president.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
And that's what Treader was like.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
After a year or two, you lead the game, you gone,
you're done, You got nothing else to do with it.
But somehow he got hired as a strategist. So once
all this stuff started coming out, it was just a
matter of time. Everybody got you gotta you know, you got.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
To blow it up.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, listen, you have you you have no choice but
to blow it up, and you might as well bring
it home where it belongs.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Right, you're right here to me.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
They they messed this thing up, and they didn't hire
Troy because Troy Rot sat rap next to uh what's
this guy's name? No, hell no, he should They should
never hide him.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
What's the gene? Gene? Gene? Yeah, but see it.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Shifted because Jean and Paul Tagnabu had a great working relationship.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yes, yes, sir, it was a partnership.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Then once was Paul stepped down. It's funny here and
I came in the year together. We left together, because
up until that point, Pete Rosell was the was the year,
was the commissioner, and then Commissioner tagic Book came in,
and then I left, and then Roger Dedell come in.
And now there's no longer a partnership. The partnership is
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between the owners and the networks. Those are the partnerships.
And I don't think the owners wanted a partnership anymore, right,
they didn't. And the first chance they got, what did
they do. They locked you'all glass out. Yeah yeah, and
they say, we want a bigger piece of the pie back.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Hey, but listen, this is what we got to do.
I'm telling you need somebody that gonna play hardball with them.
You need somebody to gonna go in there that's gonna
be for the players. That's going to be for the
players and gonna get what's right. Because as a former player,
you normally you normala do us justice.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
M h you know I am. I'm gonna tell you
like it is.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say some of the things
that people are thinking that they're not gonna say in public, yeah,
we want lifetime benefits.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Huh. We want to get rid of the franchise tag.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Even though you may see it as as as a
way to buy yourself time, it also is a way
that you is disrespectful to play it because you're basically saying,
we don't really value you.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You don't bought time.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Come on now.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
First of all, oh Joe, Normally, if somebody's on that
franchise tag, somebody gets to the franchise tag, they've already
played four or five years, so they've already they've already
bought you time. You should know if you don't know
what you have after four or five years, So you.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Mean to tell me you need another year?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Come on now.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
No, So what you're doing, you're basically betting. You're betting
that telling things bad is gonna happen. I'm gonna have
a bad year, I'm gonna have an injury before I have.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
To give you a long term deal.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
That is exactly that's what you're doing. That's what they
bet that's what they betting on. That's what they betting on.
That's what that franchise that they try to make it
seem like it's a good thing or we're gonna get it.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Well what they what they told us, It was kind
of like the bird exemption where you could sign your players,
you know what I'm saying, because you wanted to keep
You wanted to keep a John Lware with the Bronco,
you wanted to keep a damn Marino with the such,
you know, with the the Dolphins. You wanted to keep
your top notch players, Emitt Smith, your Bruce Smith. You
wanted to keep those guys there. But they abused it
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and not that like what nah, we just what we're
gonna do. We're gonna slap you with the tag or
they would threaten you with the tag mm hm. And
so the problem is Ojoe, is that although look I
know you know you you semi serious and semi joking.
The problem that anybody has that's going to have when
they come in and take over the NFL PA. It's
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not like MLB, it's not like basketball because with Marvin Miller,
who is the head of baseball, yes, when they say
we're gonna shut it down, they shut it down. When
when when when the NBA p A when they say
we gonna shut it down and shut it down I'm glad.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm glad you so and the problem and so, look,
everybody everybody wasn't making wasn't gonna make Lebron's money or
Steph Courage money. But in order for you to get
the money, up right, you got what you had to do.
What they did to them, oh Joe, they sold them
a bill of goods. They say, hey, man, y'all making
y'all work hard. And then har's a rookie that's never
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thrown a pass. Remember, Sam Bradford was the highest paid
player in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Has got that twenty Yeah, no, he got fifty Oh
we got a fifty.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Million, oh yeah, yea yeah, yeah, guaranteed he was.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
He was the highest paid player and never played a down. Libertate.
You what the owners did.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
The owner said, we want to play players that have
been established.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
We want to play the.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Veteran players that money and make those guys just coming
into the league, make them earn it. And the players, yeah, yeah,
we're gonna get that money. And guess what they do
soon as you get to it, So they cut you. Now,
they got the rookie on the wall Wade scale, and
you don't get to get to the back end to
get the bag.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
You see how they did? Ye see how they did?
They got them, They got you.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
So now we got the rookies on cap here and
on the back end of the vast thinking many I'm
gonna play blah blah blah nah don't so now basically
you gotta live here.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yeah, that's why, that's why they listen. That's why that
first three years is so important.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Maximizes as much as you can in that first three years,
and what's guaranteed? Yeah, what am I really getting outside
of the assign the onus? What am I really touching them?
First three years? Because after that, after that, that first
three years, unless it's unless you that, unless you that boy, man,
listen here man, they already plotting how absolutely listen. It's
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a business. I think that's I think that's one of
the one of the things players they want.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
They tell No, it's a business for them, That's what
I'm trying to say. But see, but the ownership has
convinced the fans that if you don't take what they
give you, you selfish, you say you're not about winning.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Bro y'all, ain't one in one hundred years.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So now all of a sudden, because I won't take
the peanuts that you're offering now, I.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Don't care enough about winning. And then your first thing
they throw because.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I've heard some people say, I know, talk to some
agents and people. The first name they throw Guess who
they throw up. Guess who name they throw up with?
Jo you one guess Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, But you have to understand, Tom Brady was in
a special situation. Everybody else in the NFL is not
married or dating someone that makes more money than the
actual player himself.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Tom Brady year tom Brady to less money. Why you
can't be like Tom Brady. Tom took less money in
order to win.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Got what I tell you?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
What? Hey, you know what I'll tell them.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And when it came right down to it, they did
tom Brady like they did everybody else.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Come on, come on, it's Sunday, Go ahead and go ahead.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I'm not at the end of the day, as loyal
as Tom Brady was, as long as he had played
up under what he should have rightfully gotten, they still showed.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Him the door.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So at the end of the day, no matter what
I do, So you know what I know, at the
end of the day you're looking to get rid of me.
But I'm going to tax your pockets, you say, while
I'm here.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I'm not the GM. My job is to play.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Now, if you want me to help you construct your
salary camp, that's gonna cost you extra.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
But in the meantime, since that's not my job.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
My job is to tackle. My job is to catch,
and my job is to run block whatever the case
may be on the football field. My job is not
to help you manage the salary cap. That's your job.
And you tell me all the time. You the billionaire,
you should be able to figure that out.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Absolutely absolutely. But it's funny. I don't think fans would
be able to understand it from a player's perspective because
they were always with their team and their loyalty and
the owners saying what they and obviously the media obviously
is and most of the time the media is going
to be gravitated towards the owner's side as well, making
the players look like they are selfish in certain circumstances.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
It's it's unfortunate. But but again, I mean, just.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Hypothetically speaking, I'm just throwing it out there just I mean,
in in a way I'm serious in a way, I'm
actually joking, but I would love to be one to
be in that, in those rooms, in those rooms, because
you're not gonna pull the wool over my eyes.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
You're not gonna po.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
And I'm one of the ones, one of the few
who are gonna say the things that no one else
will say.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Oh, I think the thing is, Look, you have prosperity
for another four or five years. Whover comes in. Guys,
please please start saving your money. No more homes, no
tell tell the wife, no more extravagant purchases.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
We got to put a wartch so that for Because
they're gonna lock us out.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Let me tell you why they're gonna lock the because
let me tell you what they did last time on Joe.
They locked us out. They locked y'all out. I was done,
tell you I was done. They locked you out. And
once they got ten more years, they had three years
left the with the t broadcasting, they went right back
to the broadcasting and say, we got ten years of
the labor piece, we wa to redo the deal, and
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they did it. Now, I tell you what somebody told you.
I'm telling you what I know. So what they're gonna
do they're gonna lock you out. They're gonna lock you out. Now,
let me tell you who wants Who wants a programming
and they playing a premium because we see what Netflix
play Jake Paul every time he gets on that network,
and we see what Amazon's doing. So don't be surprised
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in the next round. You watch it on Amazon, you
watching it on Netflix. I'm talking about the Sunday stuff.
Because they got more money than NBC. They got more
money than Fox, they got more money than CBS. Now,
I ain't telling what somebody telling you. They got more
money than ESPN.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Oh they coming.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
So I'm gonna tell you what they're gonna do. They're
gonna lock you out.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Because he said when he took the job, he said,
in twenty years, they want to be doing twenty five
billion in revenue per year. I think they're about nineteen twenty.
That's why you see they done added another game O Joe.
Not only did that, guess what, they added another playoffs
boy too. You see how they did that game. Everybody, yea, yeah,
that money. Gotta tell you that money gotta come from somewhere. Now,
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come on, now, got to come. Okay, we added a
playoff game. Guess, so that's what we did on Joe.
We added another game that's seventeen, so we got an
extra team with the playoffs and we got an extra game. Now,
what what does commission keep throwing out there?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Eighteen eighteen eighteen?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Oh yeahen, he gonna tease it. He gonna tease it
every time. But what's the one thing everybody talk about?
They keep throwing flags all over the place? Player safety
player say Joe, Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Joe, listening to nothing you say, because all I see
is the ratings going up every game.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Every year, the ratings keep going up.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
So fans keep talking about, oh this is flag football,
y'all keep watching. I don't know if y'all notice, did
you see how many people watched the Super Bowl last year?
Did you see how many people watch the playoff games
last year? So why am I listening to you?
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, you're not.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
They were always watching.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
No matter what anybody says.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You see, we don't get invited nowhere, O yo, they can't.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
But I gotta get I gotta tell the people's truth.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah, I mean, listen, listen.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I've always I've always been, always been the villain. I
always been the bad one. I'm always been the one
not to follow the rules, so I'm I'm used to that.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Now, y'all know why I've never been invited to a
rookie symposium and oh cho and now we don't get
the perks of being able to go to certain places
and do certain things. But that's all good. But at
the end of the day, I'm gonna be honest with you.
I'm gonna tell you the truth. I'm gonna tell you
what I know because I've talk to people that was.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
In that room that was negotiating.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, So I if whoever the next head of the
Players Association, please tell these guys to start saving them money.
I'm tell you got to put a war chest together, guys,
in order for us to get we won't guaranteed money
and we want lifetime health benefits. We want to do
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away with that franchise tag the only way because they
know how much money you got.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
They know.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Everything that happened in Dallas. There's nothing that Jerry Jones
doesn't know about. There's nothing that happens in Miami that
Stephen Ross doesn't know about. There's nothing in an NFL
town that those owners doesn't know about.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, it's so funny. Literally know everything, literally know everything
I'm not I'm not sure what I'm not sure what
I'm not service. I don't know what service the NFL uses.
I'm not sure what service uh the owners use. But
being able to tell me what I know, being able
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to tell me I'm riding four wheelers in the off
season with my homeboys down Twelfth Avenue.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
How do you know that?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
You all the way in Cincinnati? How you know that?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
How you call my grandma? Tell my grandma a tail
chat of stealth and four whellers during the off season?
Please tell him start riding up and down? Wait a minute, huh, man,
I'm a witness to it.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
They know everything, they know.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Hey, why you not? Why are you not in the
bay asleep?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
What's Yeah? What's up? Teddy?
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I don't know what one that is?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
That's Teddy Bear.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Hey, Teddy Bear, you got to bring both them boys on,
and you got to bring both them on.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
And I was like, man, and the thing is o'd you? Like?
I said? They know?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
They know how much you paid, how much your home
loan is, they know how many kids you got, how
many going to private school? If you got a divorce,
they know what you paid.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Brown's Kenny Pickett predicted to enter training camp as QB one.
Cleveland's quarterback battle is about to begin with the start
of the twenty twenty five training camp. Rookies and vets
have officially reported to Brea and to kick things off.
Mary Kay Cabot predicts that Kenny Pickett will have the
upper hand early in camp. Kenny Pickett still has a
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slight edge in terms of being number one on the
depth chart heading in the training camp, but that could
quickly change. Mary Kay Cabot is the gospel when it
comes to the Cleveland Browns. She's the gospel.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
She is, Yes, he is. Listen, She's the Pavarotti.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
When there's some reporters that when they speak about because
they've covered it for so long, Yes, that's her. Jane
Slater when she starts talking about the cowboys take it
to the bank, to take it, take it, take go
on and take it to the bank.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
It used to be that way with the air Bouchette
when he was in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I don't know if he's still still there, but when
he talks going and like, yeah, that's yeah. Mary Kay
Cabot did it go ahead on Yo Yogo say.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
No, no, I'm gonna say the quarterback battle. I like
what they're doing. I like I like what they're doing.
I like the fact that they put certain things out
and most of the time it's all smoking mirrors. It's
all smoking mirrors. I talk to the people that played
on that team. I hear is being said, I slipped
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up a little bit a few shows to go and
says some things that I shouldn't have said, but it
was okay with that individual that I did say it.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I know what it looks like they're telling me.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You know so.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I love what she says, And she says, Kenny Picktt
had the chance to be quarterback number one. I know
whos gonna be quarterback number one week one when they
step on that field.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I know who's gonna be. I can tell you that.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
You know it's gonna be Joe Flaham. That's neither here
nor there. The person that has the front running experience,
the front running experience based on what he's done, is
familiarity with the team.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
And the offense. It could be Joe Flaham.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Now who's gonna be behind him if anything goes wrong
or when things start to go wrong, my guest is
gonna be the best person, most polished, with the most
success behind him, and that would be that would be twelve.
And that's brother Sanders. No disrespect to Dyln Gabriel or
Kenny Pickett, but if they were the answer, they've already
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had their time, they already had their chances.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We started quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
You sing, is something going to miraculously change for Kenny Pickett?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
No, I don't. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Okay, yeah, so don't. I don't understand quarterback number one
a change. I don't listen to any of that. That's
all I call that smoke and mirrors. No disrespect to
Kenny Pickett, love him, love him, But this opportunity with
the Steelers you hadn't.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
So you mean you.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Come to a team like the Cleveland Browns that's in
dire need of quarterback one and all of a sudden,
I you need the answer if something has changed miraculously
at the quarter of acquisition with you in your play, No,
it hasn't.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I agree, Ojo. I just didn't understand.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
If you know, you bring in all these quarterbacks, you
bring in a veteran eighteen years and Joe Flacco. You
bring in another veteran player in Kenny Pickett, and you
teach take two rookies.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I don't I don't get that because I see a
very similar situation with the RG three situation in Washington.
You take RG three with the number two pick, and
then you end up get taking Cousins, and we see
how that played out. We see how that played out.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Mike didn't want RG three because back then Ojo, they
were in salary cap hell. They had tried to put
all that money in an uncapped year. The League five
punished them, and so they had a lot of debt.
They had a lot, They really didn't have any cap space.
Now Mike's looking at Daniel Snyder said, Dan, if we
give up this to get this young man, how do
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we build a team. We can't sign free agencies, and
we give an up draft capital for the fulfillable future.
And his style leads to injury because now if he's
gonna be Lamar, and you see Lamar gradually runs less
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and less, he throws more and more from the pocket.
He's done a better job of getting down, He's done
a better job of getting out of bounds. That wasn't
RG three, and plus the fact RG three wanted to
be something that he couldn't be immediately, that was Peyton
Manning and Tom Brady pocket being able to They were
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that because they were not athletic. They couldn't take off,
run and run away from a defense like RG three could.
He didn't understand that was his blessing. O Joe, you noticed, Ojoe.
Quarterbacks that are not mobile never says the man, I
wish I was mobile. Tom Brady never said I wish
I could do this. Peyton Manning never said I do that.
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Because you have to understand the defense looks that you
once you start running. They see Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
No matter what jersey number you win, I see a
running back. That's it.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And I'm trying to and I'm trying to split his
dome legally. I'm trying to hit you as hard as
God will let me. Now, I'm not concerned about next week.
But if I hit you clean legally and you don't
come back into the game, I wish you the best
for next week. But oh well, because I look at
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it like this, Oh Joe, my job as a defender
is not to protect the offensive player. That's his coordinator's job,
that's his quarterback job. So if the coordinator calls a
play and the quarterback takes off running, you told me
you don't care about him, so why should I?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, but also you know what, you know what?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Also the off coordinator, he knows the player of strengths
is at the quarterback position, so he puts the quarterback,
and he puts the quarterback in advantageous positions to make
those plays for the team. And just so happens, what
the quarterback does best is the exact thing the defense
hopes he does.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And that's because all I need is one clean shot.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
As is it? That's it, and.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I just I just hope you do it gets a
fair chance.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
It's hard, speaking personally, Oh Joe, going into a situation
where you're not a high draft pick and you're behind
so many guys. Hell, I'm like the sixth or seventh receiver.
Mm hmm, I'm only gonna get one or two players
on yo, How do I get.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Your make the most?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I don't even think it. I don't even think it's
it's not even hard. It's not even hard.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I hate I hate going back, but this was just
a lesson being taught. We already know he's a top
three pick and should have been, should have been now
for for for for for conversational purposes, this is a
great conversation piece. I know how the outcome is going
to be based on what he can do when he
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touches the tam He's been a winner all his life.
Everywhere he's winning, and that same attitude and discipline and
the way of playing the game of football is going
to carry over in Cleveland as well. And this is
no disrespect to the other competitors on that team in
that specific position. It's going to carry over. He's already
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been through adversity, He's already faced these same obstacles every time.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's just another one he's going to overcome. And I'm
happy for the organization.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Hell, I'm happy for Browns fans because finally, what you've
always needed for so long is right there in your building.
All they doing is just prolong the situation.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
That's all they do.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
They don't need to prolong it anymore. They need to
find a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
They need to find one bad And you know, if
you go back and look at it, they really only
had two. I mean you got to go back to
Otto Graham An Graham, I think win like ten championships.
But that was that was that was like before your
before your mom and your grandmama.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
I seen auto ground play, I've seen I've seen the
black and white footage.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
And then you got you got yeah, and then you
got Bernie Baker.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Baker could have been good, but they have the pieces
around Baker. You see, Baker found a home. You know,
look in Tampa because you look at what Baker had
it at Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Hold on, do you forget to receive us Baker had
in Cleveland? You don't remember home?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Who we have.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Odell? If I'm not mistaken, right, Jarvis Landry, if I'm
not mistaken?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
And was it Donovan, Peter Jones or my tripping and
my off chat chat remind me, remind me of.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Right? Yeah, but that a that's something to work.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
But think about it. Yo.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Odell came out a broken leg. Oh they have a
torn a c L. We know Odell was not the
same player that he was in New York. He had
hurt and broke his leg in the Giants.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
He did Okay, okay, okay, thank you for getting me right.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Okay, Jarvis was a slot receiver, had great hands, durable.
But that's not that's not Mike Everys and Chris Godwin, Yo.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, Mike Mike Miah.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Now Godwin has gotten hurt a lot over the last
several years. But the one thing you can, hey, you
can send your clock by Mike Evans is gonna get
a thousand yards receiving. Mike ga was gonna get a
thousand yards receiving. He went somewhere. Carolina was not a
good fit for him. The Rams, we know he wasn't
gonna stick there. Uh uh. Stafford had gotten hurt. Stafford
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was their guy. He was never going to beat Stafford out.
But he goes to Tampa plays on a one year
deal in Boom. The rest is as they say, it's history,
and he's found a home because of Oklahoma. One look
at the receiver they had, Ceedee Lamb, who else? Who
else was the other receiver? I think Joe Mixon was
his running back. So he used to being around talented talent,
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talent talent. Now they give him back, so now he
can shine, he can flourish. Yeah, we're gonna find out.
They're in a very very tough division. The Steelers got better,
The Ravens got better. The Bengals believe they've gotten better.
They've resigned their two offensive weapons. Joe Burrow has another
year in that system. The question is can they hold
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up defensively because they put when when Ojo, it puts
a lot of pressure on your offense to have to
be perfect, to have to I mean, they have to
be perfect. Joe Burrow can turn them all over one time,
and sometimes that's enough to cause him to lose one turnover.
It's hard to play perfect, but that's what the Bengals
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have to be because their defense, they score thirty eight,
they give up forty one. They scored thirty five, they
give up thirty eight, they scored thirty one, they give
up thirty four. Yeah, and Joe just has to, like damn,
who can't turn it over the day because our defense
ain't stopping no one. It's hard to play like that.
It really is, all right, O Joe. This is the
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subject that you.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Also, there's something mainstream media hasn't reported much on in
the wake up June twenty third gas explosion that sparked
the fire at ravaged several units in the Rainbow Terrace
section of Garden Valley Apartments. Shador gave back to the community.
Over the course of four hours last Wednesday evening, nearly
one thousand residents of the Garden Valley Apartments gathered for
a family friendly, charitable event sponsored by Shador. The festivities
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features and eleven year old DJ Lion dancing, free haircuts,
food truck grill food, and complimentary T shirts. In addition
to never turning down on selfie requests, should door join
residents in corn hold and makes your football game and
even blowing bubble with children props to your door.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
While hitting the ground running.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
When it comes to ingratiating himself into the Cleveland community.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I love it. I love it. I love it. I
love it. What's the one thing you get?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
You get?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Remember the movie Gradiator. Remember what he told Maximus when
the crowd you when you was your freedom, when the
crowd and the rest will take care of itself. He's
doing exactly Listen, he's doing exactly what you're supposed to do.
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And bed and bed yourself in the community. Let them
see as a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I'm here.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I don't think. I don't think things went the way
they should have gone. But I'm here. That's that's gonna
take him far.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
With those on the outside of the stadium.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Far that means a lot.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
When's the last time you've seen a clean the Brown
quarterback do something like that?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
All of them done stuff in the community.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
I'm sure they all do. Every team, every team has
players that done. I mean to that, to that mame who.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Normally that's the first round pick, high draft choice, not
seventh round picks. It definitely not this time of the year.
Now maybe once the season starts. I've made the team.
I do things in the community. A blood drive, a
food bank close to the whatever the case may be,
Christmas gift turkeys for Thanksgiving, hams, whatever the case may be.
Oh Joe, Yeah, I get that I'm saying, but not
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like this. But this is who he is.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Different, Yeah, this is who he is.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
So kudos to Shador for getting out of the community,
ingratiating himself and hey, good things.
Carly Er Sat Gordon believes twenty three year old Anthony
Richardson can still play well enough to justify the coach's
lofty expectations for him before the draft. Where he is
in his career and the deal as a rookie, we
still have time. He still has time to prove it
bring a sense of urgency, and nothing brings the sense
of urgency more than competition. But before Richardson can prove
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it on the field, he has to prove it in
training camp by beating out Daniel Jones and the Colts
quarterback competition. Ar career completion percentage is just fifty point
six percent percent. He has eleven touchdowns and thirteen interceptions.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Listen, he has to prove with it more than just
on the field.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It proved locker room.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
He has to prove with it more than just in
the field.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Feel.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
He has to prove it inside the building, showing the
coaches that you're serious about wanting to be quarterback number
one for your team.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
It ain't just doing it on the field.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
In the funeral room, being the first one to get there,
being the last one to leave that building. You know,
when it comes to everything else, just just's he's always
he's been injured a lot, right, so treatment, getting treatment,
doing it, being on time, not missing those doing the
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extra work, staying after practice, throwing.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
There's so many different things.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
See, the president has already been set on what it
takes to be a great quarterback with Peyton Manning.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
All of them. I mean, the quarterback said getting treatment.
They got their playbook.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Hey, you have to want it. You got to want
it the same, the same want. Let's see, I'm sure
he has a hobby. I'm not sure what his hobby is.
But whatever that hobby may be, football gotta come first.
But the same joy and passionate love you have for
that hobby, you got to pour it into football. Whatever
your hobby be, that's gonna be there. Oh, it's gonna
be there because the bulky money that's gonna be made
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and can come from this, It come from this. You
got you got to understand that. So I'm listen. The
rightness on the wall. You talk about nothing brings the
best out of someone like competition. Well this is more
than competition because they just paid someone where it didn't
work out, and god damn New York and they just
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bought somebody for one year with fourteen million. That's basically
telling you your job is in jeopardy or they already
rending the stone, that your job is already his. And
no matter what you do, you might not be able
to be the power right and if you don't, if
you don't want the starting.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Job here, and then that you don't want a starting.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Job, that you you won't be a starter again.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
In general, Well, you ain't gonna be no starting to
end if you don't beat Daniel Jones out because it
don't make no sense to keep you.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
And and you look at it all all the other
thirty one teams, they're set at the quarterback nation, they're
set at the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
News see the nine never ojo Yeah, no, never, I.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Hate I hate saying that too.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's just the reality of it. They put a lot
into you, They drafted you a lot on potential. Yeah,
because it was never No, it was a situation. It
wasn't a situation where you were polished. Everybody knew you
were a project. And then they said that going into
the combine. But then as big as you are, as
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strong as you were, as fast as you ran, you
shot up the draft board.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
You can't you can You can't pass upon that. You
just can't, especially the way scouts think.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, especially the way we can't pass up on that.
But he has a potential.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Thing, and I get it. But he hasn't got any better.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
He was a project in high school, he was a
project in college.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
He's a project now. He's like that church building fund.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That thing ain't never been completed, and we still pouring
more money into it, and the church building fund, and
the building has never been complete.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Not the church building.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You know what I ain't in our community.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
We know everybody know about that building fund, and that's
that building ain't complete yet and they still taking up
money every day for Sunday. That's Anthony richardson your church
building fund. He ain't complete yet. I don't know if
he'll ever be complete.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
O joke, right, I'm hoping. I'm hoping. He got all
the resources.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Look at what he got.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
It got everything now, Pittman Jr.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Eric Pierce. You got Jonathan Taylor, Barry good offensive line?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, man, come on, bro, Yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Ain't got No, he don't got no slots skill players
around him now.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
No, absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
There ain't no exuse.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
None I can see o jo he said, well, he
don't really have nothing around him.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Come on, o ya, I mean he needs a bro.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Nobody in their right mind can say this man does
not have talent around him at the skill position. You
look at the wide receivers. He still has a top
five running back in Jonathan Taylor, he has a solid
offensive line.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Ain't no reason for him to undachieve like he's been unachieved. Now.
I get it, he's been hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But bro, if you get your opportunity, you better seize
the moment that this might be your last chance.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
In ended.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oho, a video circulating of kp KLF Plumb appearing to
call like Caitlin Clark Clark at the w NBA All
Star Weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Take a look at this video.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
That was a very powerful moment. We didn't, at least
as players, we didn't know that that was going to happen.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
So I think it was kind of like.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
A genuine surprise. But the T shirt just united front
was determined this morning that we had a meeting for
and uh, you know, not to not to chattle tale,
but zero members of Team Clark were very present for that.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But no, we were just uh, we we had a very.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Uh I really needed to be mentioned.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
I'm trying to make a situation like okay, but but yeah, no,
I think it was just all of us getting on
the same page for the game. We wanted to do
something that was just united and collective. And I thought
that it was a very powerful moment and got the
point across. And you know, sometimes you don't have to
say anything.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, she tried to make a lot of the situation. Look,
I like KP. She was great when she was here.
I saw saw them play last year out here in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Ain't nobody ask you that? No, no, don't do that,
don't do that. Would you think something or nothing?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Nah, ain't nothing, ain't nothing.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
But obviously you anytime you mentioned CC's name, you already
you you already know what is going to get good,
badd and different.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Different, Right. Yeah, but she did. She did the best
she could to to make life a situation.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's just like you know, certain Lebron. You mentioned Lebron,
you already know what's coming with that. Yeah, you know,
some people just are polarizing. That's the term polarizing, and
that's Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But uh, hey, y'all, have to play some d next year, though,
y'all get like the dup. Y'all get like the NBA.
Ain't nobody coming to see No. One hundred and thirty
up ad points? They score like one thirty one forty something. Yeah,
come on, now, now the couple don't get like that.
Don't get like the NBA.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Now. No no, no.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
No, no, no, no, no no, not one fifty one
no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, come on, ladies,
oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
More changes are coming to the leadership of the NFL
Players Association. Chief Strategist Officer J. C. Treader has resigned
from his post to miss scrutiny over hiring former NFLPA
executive director Lloyd I'll excuse me, who resigned. On July eighteenth,
p Matt pat McAfee didn't mint mince words about the
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NFLPA leadership following Grip Club allegations. The NFLPA has been
led by people who could much rather be known than
the heads of the NFLPA than actual work and act
like they are heads of the nfl PA. These dudes
think their celebrities. These dudes think they're powerful. These dudes
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have all of their friends and overpaid them with players' money.
Then these dudes flex while using and abusing all the
connections that the players and the league have worked their
assets off, their entire lives for, and act like sanctnemonious
heroes through it all.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Oh, Joe, we kind of touched on this a little bit.
Look we did earlier.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
This all happened. Pablo Torri is Pablo still working with ESPN.
He has his own thing, and he's a lawyer. He's
a Harvey grad very smart. I've never met the guy,
but just watching him listening to him talk, he's a
very smart guy, very shrewd.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And he went digging and he.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Found some information, yes, that about a judge that said, yeah,
they kind of they the owners. And there was writing
between Jeff Passion and I think Roger Goodell. There's a
memos saying we got to get these we got to
get this guaranteed money down because it's getting our regis
blah blah blah. There was a speaking gun. Now the
NFL do a better job than gone underground. With that
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being said, Lloyd Lloyd Howell was in trouble.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I don't know how you get a job at the
NFLPA head when you work with a company that a
private equity firm that did your job is to go
try to find investors to buy NFL teams. And if
I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong, but I think
like if you're at the head of the if you're
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like a players association, so like you're the president.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
And that's what Treader was like.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
After a year or two, you lead the game, you gone,
you're done, You got nothing else to do with it.
But somehow he got hired as a strategist. So once
all this stuff started coming out, it was just a
matter of time. Everybody got you gotta you know, you got.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
To blow it up.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, listen, you have you you have no choice but
to blow it up, and you might as well bring
it home where it belongs.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Right, you're right here to me.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
They they messed this thing up, and they didn't hire
Troy because Troy Rot sat rap next to uh what's
this guy's name? No, hell no, he should They should
never hide him.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
What's the gene? Gene? Gene? Yeah, but see it.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Shifted because Jean and Paul Tagnabu had a great working relationship.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yes, yes, sir, it was a partnership.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Then once was Paul stepped down. It's funny here and
I came in the year together. We left together, because
up until that point, Pete Rosell was the was the year,
was the commissioner, and then Commissioner tagic Book came in,
and then I left, and then Roger Dedell come in.
And now there's no longer a partnership. The partnership is
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between the owners and the networks. Those are the partnerships.
And I don't think the owners wanted a partnership anymore, right,
they didn't. And the first chance they got, what did
they do. They locked you'all glass out. Yeah yeah, and
they say, we want a bigger piece of the pie back.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Hey, but listen, this is what we got to do.
I'm telling you need somebody that gonna play hardball with them.
You need somebody to gonna go in there that's gonna
be for the players. That's going to be for the
players and gonna get what's right. Because as a former player,
you normally you normala do us justice.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
M h you know I am. I'm gonna tell you
like it is.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say some of the things
that people are thinking that they're not gonna say in public, yeah,
we want lifetime benefits.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Huh. We want to get rid of the franchise tag.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Even though you may see it as as as a
way to buy yourself time, it also is a way
that you is disrespectful to play it because you're basically saying,
we don't really value you.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You don't bought time.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Come on now.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
First of all, oh Joe, Normally, if somebody's on that
franchise tag, somebody gets to the franchise tag, they've already
played four or five years, so they've already they've already
bought you time. You should know if you don't know
what you have after four or five years, So you.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Mean to tell me you need another year?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Come on now.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
No, So what you're doing, you're basically betting. You're betting
that telling things bad is gonna happen. I'm gonna have
a bad year, I'm gonna have an injury before I have.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
To give you a long term deal.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
That is exactly that's what you're doing. That's what they
bet that's what they betting on. That's what they betting on.
That's what that franchise that they try to make it
seem like it's a good thing or we're gonna get it.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Well what they what they told us, It was kind
of like the bird exemption where you could sign your players,
you know what I'm saying, because you wanted to keep
You wanted to keep a John Lware with the Bronco,
you wanted to keep a damn Marino with the such,
you know, with the the Dolphins. You wanted to keep
your top notch players, Emitt Smith, your Bruce Smith. You
wanted to keep those guys there. But they abused it
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and not that like what nah, we just what we're
gonna do. We're gonna slap you with the tag or
they would threaten you with the tag mm hm. And
so the problem is Ojoe, is that although look I
know you know you you semi serious and semi joking.
The problem that anybody has that's going to have when
they come in and take over the NFL PA. It's
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not like MLB, it's not like basketball because with Marvin Miller,
who is the head of baseball, yes, when they say
we're gonna shut it down, they shut it down. When
when when when the NBA p A when they say
we gonna shut it down and shut it down I'm glad.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm glad you so and the problem and so, look,
everybody everybody wasn't making wasn't gonna make Lebron's money or
Steph Courage money. But in order for you to get
the money, up right, you got what you had to do.
What they did to them, oh Joe, they sold them
a bill of goods. They say, hey, man, y'all making
y'all work hard. And then har's a rookie that's never
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thrown a pass. Remember, Sam Bradford was the highest paid
player in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Has got that twenty Yeah, no, he got fifty Oh
we got a fifty.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Million, oh yeah, yea yeah, yeah, guaranteed he was.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
He was the highest paid player and never played a down. Libertate.
You what the owners did.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
The owner said, we want to play players that have
been established.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
We want to play the.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Veteran players that money and make those guys just coming
into the league, make them earn it. And the players, yeah, yeah,
we're gonna get that money. And guess what they do
soon as you get to it, So they cut you. Now,
they got the rookie on the wall Wade scale, and
you don't get to get to the back end to
get the bag.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
You see how they did? Ye see how they did?
They got them, They got you.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
So now we got the rookies on cap here and
on the back end of the vast thinking many I'm
gonna play blah blah blah nah don't so now basically
you gotta live here.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yeah, that's why, that's why they listen. That's why that
first three years is so important.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Maximizes as much as you can in that first three years,
and what's guaranteed? Yeah, what am I really getting outside
of the assign the onus? What am I really touching them?
First three years? Because after that, after that, that first
three years, unless it's unless you that, unless you that boy, man,
listen here man, they already plotting how absolutely listen. It's
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a business. I think that's I think that's one of
the one of the things players they want.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
They tell No, it's a business for them, That's what
I'm trying to say. But see, but the ownership has
convinced the fans that if you don't take what they
give you, you selfish, you say you're not about winning.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Bro y'all, ain't one in one hundred years.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So now all of a sudden, because I won't take
the peanuts that you're offering now, I.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Don't care enough about winning. And then your first thing
they throw because.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I've heard some people say, I know, talk to some
agents and people. The first name they throw Guess who
they throw up. Guess who name they throw up with?
Jo you one guess Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, But you have to understand, Tom Brady was in
a special situation. Everybody else in the NFL is not
married or dating someone that makes more money than the
actual player himself.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Tom Brady year tom Brady to less money. Why you
can't be like Tom Brady. Tom took less money in
order to win.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Got what I tell you?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
What? Hey, you know what I'll tell them.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And when it came right down to it, they did
tom Brady like they did everybody else.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Come on, come on, it's Sunday, Go ahead and go ahead.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I'm not at the end of the day, as loyal
as Tom Brady was, as long as he had played
up under what he should have rightfully gotten, they still showed.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Him the door.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So at the end of the day, no matter what
I do, So you know what I know, at the
end of the day you're looking to get rid of me.
But I'm going to tax your pockets, you say, while
I'm here.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I'm not the GM. My job is to play.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Now, if you want me to help you construct your
salary camp, that's gonna cost you extra.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
But in the meantime, since that's not my job.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
My job is to tackle. My job is to catch,
and my job is to run block whatever the case
may be on the football field. My job is not
to help you manage the salary cap. That's your job.
And you tell me all the time. You the billionaire,
you should be able to figure that out.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Absolutely absolutely. But it's funny. I don't think fans would
be able to understand it from a player's perspective because
they were always with their team and their loyalty and
the owners saying what they and obviously the media obviously
is and most of the time the media is going
to be gravitated towards the owner's side as well, making
the players look like they are selfish in certain circumstances.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
It's it's unfortunate. But but again, I mean, just.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Hypothetically speaking, I'm just throwing it out there just I mean,
in in a way I'm serious in a way, I'm
actually joking, but I would love to be one to
be in that, in those rooms, in those rooms, because
you're not gonna pull the wool over my eyes.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
You're not gonna po.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
And I'm one of the ones, one of the few
who are gonna say the things that no one else
will say.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Oh, I think the thing is, Look, you have prosperity
for another four or five years. Whover comes in. Guys,
please please start saving your money. No more homes, no
tell tell the wife, no more extravagant purchases.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
We got to put a wartch so that for Because
they're gonna lock us out.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Let me tell you why they're gonna lock the because
let me tell you what they did last time on Joe.
They locked us out. They locked y'all out. I was done,
tell you I was done. They locked you out. And
once they got ten more years, they had three years
left the with the t broadcasting, they went right back
to the broadcasting and say, we got ten years of
the labor piece, we wa to redo the deal, and
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they did it. Now, I tell you what somebody told you.
I'm telling you what I know. So what they're gonna
do they're gonna lock you out. They're gonna lock you out. Now,
let me tell you who wants Who wants a programming
and they playing a premium because we see what Netflix
play Jake Paul every time he gets on that network,
and we see what Amazon's doing. So don't be surprised
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in the next round. You watch it on Amazon, you
watching it on Netflix. I'm talking about the Sunday stuff.
Because they got more money than NBC. They got more
money than Fox, they got more money than CBS. Now,
I ain't telling what somebody telling you. They got more
money than ESPN.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Oh they coming.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
So I'm gonna tell you what they're gonna do. They're
gonna lock you out.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Because he said when he took the job, he said,
in twenty years, they want to be doing twenty five
billion in revenue per year. I think they're about nineteen twenty.
That's why you see they done added another game O Joe.
Not only did that, guess what, they added another playoffs
boy too. You see how they did that game. Everybody, yea, yeah,
that money. Gotta tell you that money gotta come from somewhere. Now,
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come on, now, got to come. Okay, we added a
playoff game. Guess, so that's what we did on Joe.
We added another game that's seventeen, so we got an
extra team with the playoffs and we got an extra game. Now,
what what does commission keep throwing out there?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Eighteen eighteen eighteen?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Oh yeahen, he gonna tease it. He gonna tease it
every time. But what's the one thing everybody talk about?
They keep throwing flags all over the place? Player safety
player say Joe, Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Joe, listening to nothing you say, because all I see
is the ratings going up every game.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Every year, the ratings keep going up.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
So fans keep talking about, oh this is flag football,
y'all keep watching. I don't know if y'all notice, did
you see how many people watched the Super Bowl last year?
Did you see how many people watch the playoff games
last year? So why am I listening to you?
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, you're not.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
They were always watching.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
No matter what anybody says.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You see, we don't get invited nowhere, O yo, they can't.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
But I gotta get I gotta tell the people's truth.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah, I mean, listen, listen.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I've always I've always been, always been the villain. I
always been the bad one. I'm always been the one
not to follow the rules, so I'm I'm used to that.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Now, y'all know why I've never been invited to a
rookie symposium and oh cho and now we don't get
the perks of being able to go to certain places
and do certain things. But that's all good. But at
the end of the day, I'm gonna be honest with you.
I'm gonna tell you the truth. I'm gonna tell you
what I know because I've talk to people that was.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
In that room that was negotiating.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, So I if whoever the next head of the
Players Association, please tell these guys to start saving them money.
I'm tell you got to put a war chest together, guys,
in order for us to get we won't guaranteed money
and we want lifetime health benefits. We want to do
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away with that franchise tag the only way because they
know how much money you got.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
They know.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Everything that happened in Dallas. There's nothing that Jerry Jones
doesn't know about. There's nothing that happens in Miami that
Stephen Ross doesn't know about. There's nothing in an NFL
town that those owners doesn't know about.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, it's so funny. Literally know everything, literally know everything
I'm not I'm not sure what I'm not sure what
I'm not service. I don't know what service the NFL uses.
I'm not sure what service uh the owners use. But
being able to tell me what I know, being able
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to tell me I'm riding four wheelers in the off
season with my homeboys down Twelfth Avenue.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
How do you know that?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
You all the way in Cincinnati? How you know that?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
How you call my grandma? Tell my grandma a tail
chat of stealth and four whellers during the off season?
Please tell him start riding up and down? Wait a minute, huh, man,
I'm a witness to it.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
They know everything, they know.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Hey, why you not? Why are you not in the
bay asleep?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
What's Yeah? What's up? Teddy?
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I don't know what one that is?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
That's Teddy Bear.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Hey, Teddy Bear, you got to bring both them boys on,
and you got to bring both them on.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
And I was like, man, and the thing is o'd you? Like?
I said? They know?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
They know how much you paid, how much your home
loan is, they know how many kids you got, how
many going to private school? If you got a divorce,
they know what you paid.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Brown's Kenny Pickett predicted to enter training camp as QB one.
Cleveland's quarterback battle is about to begin with the start
of the twenty twenty five training camp. Rookies and vets
have officially reported to Brea and to kick things off.
Mary Kay Cabot predicts that Kenny Pickett will have the
upper hand early in camp. Kenny Pickett still has a
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slight edge in terms of being number one on the
depth chart heading in the training camp, but that could
quickly change. Mary Kay Cabot is the gospel when it
comes to the Cleveland Browns. She's the gospel.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
She is, Yes, he is. Listen, She's the Pavarotti.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
When there's some reporters that when they speak about because
they've covered it for so long, Yes, that's her. Jane
Slater when she starts talking about the cowboys take it
to the bank, to take it, take it, take go
on and take it to the bank.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
It used to be that way with the air Bouchette
when he was in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I don't know if he's still still there, but when
he talks going and like, yeah, that's yeah. Mary Kay
Cabot did it go ahead on Yo Yogo say.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
No, no, I'm gonna say the quarterback battle. I like
what they're doing. I like I like what they're doing.
I like the fact that they put certain things out
and most of the time it's all smoking mirrors. It's
all smoking mirrors. I talk to the people that played
on that team. I hear is being said, I slipped
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up a little bit a few shows to go and
says some things that I shouldn't have said, but it
was okay with that individual that I did say it.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I know what it looks like they're telling me.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You know so.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I love what she says, And she says, Kenny Picktt
had the chance to be quarterback number one. I know
whos gonna be quarterback number one week one when they
step on that field.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I know who's gonna be. I can tell you that.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
You know it's gonna be Joe Flaham. That's neither here
nor there. The person that has the front running experience,
the front running experience based on what he's done, is
familiarity with the team.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
And the offense. It could be Joe Flaham.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Now who's gonna be behind him if anything goes wrong
or when things start to go wrong, my guest is
gonna be the best person, most polished, with the most
success behind him, and that would be that would be twelve.
And that's brother Sanders. No disrespect to Dyln Gabriel or
Kenny Pickett, but if they were the answer, they've already
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had their time, they already had their chances.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We started quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
You sing, is something going to miraculously change for Kenny Pickett?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
No, I don't. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Okay, yeah, so don't. I don't understand quarterback number one
a change. I don't listen to any of that. That's
all I call that smoke and mirrors. No disrespect to
Kenny Pickett, love him, love him, But this opportunity with
the Steelers you hadn't.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
So you mean you.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Come to a team like the Cleveland Browns that's in
dire need of quarterback one and all of a sudden,
I you need the answer if something has changed miraculously
at the quarter of acquisition with you in your play, No,
it hasn't.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I agree, Ojo. I just didn't understand.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
If you know, you bring in all these quarterbacks, you
bring in a veteran eighteen years and Joe Flacco. You
bring in another veteran player in Kenny Pickett, and you
teach take two rookies.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I don't I don't get that because I see a
very similar situation with the RG three situation in Washington.
You take RG three with the number two pick, and
then you end up get taking Cousins, and we see
how that played out. We see how that played out.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Mike didn't want RG three because back then Ojo, they
were in salary cap hell. They had tried to put
all that money in an uncapped year. The League five
punished them, and so they had a lot of debt.
They had a lot, They really didn't have any cap space.
Now Mike's looking at Daniel Snyder said, Dan, if we
give up this to get this young man, how do
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we build a team. We can't sign free agencies, and
we give an up draft capital for the fulfillable future.
And his style leads to injury because now if he's
gonna be Lamar, and you see Lamar gradually runs less
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and less, he throws more and more from the pocket.
He's done a better job of getting down, He's done
a better job of getting out of bounds. That wasn't
RG three, and plus the fact RG three wanted to
be something that he couldn't be immediately, that was Peyton
Manning and Tom Brady pocket being able to They were
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that because they were not athletic. They couldn't take off,
run and run away from a defense like RG three could.
He didn't understand that was his blessing. O Joe, you noticed, Ojoe.
Quarterbacks that are not mobile never says the man, I
wish I was mobile. Tom Brady never said I wish
I could do this. Peyton Manning never said I do that.
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Because you have to understand the defense looks that you
once you start running. They see Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
No matter what jersey number you win, I see a
running back. That's it.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And I'm trying to and I'm trying to split his
dome legally. I'm trying to hit you as hard as
God will let me. Now, I'm not concerned about next week.
But if I hit you clean legally and you don't
come back into the game, I wish you the best
for next week. But oh well, because I look at
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it like this, Oh Joe, my job as a defender
is not to protect the offensive player. That's his coordinator's job,
that's his quarterback job. So if the coordinator calls a
play and the quarterback takes off running, you told me
you don't care about him, so why should I?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, but also you know what, you know what?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Also the off coordinator, he knows the player of strengths
is at the quarterback position, so he puts the quarterback,
and he puts the quarterback in advantageous positions to make
those plays for the team. And just so happens, what
the quarterback does best is the exact thing the defense
hopes he does.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And that's because all I need is one clean shot.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
As is it? That's it, and.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I just I just hope you do it gets a
fair chance.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
It's hard, speaking personally, Oh Joe, going into a situation
where you're not a high draft pick and you're behind
so many guys. Hell, I'm like the sixth or seventh receiver.
Mm hmm, I'm only gonna get one or two players
on yo, How do I get.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Your make the most?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I don't even think it. I don't even think it's
it's not even hard. It's not even hard.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I hate I hate going back, but this was just
a lesson being taught. We already know he's a top
three pick and should have been, should have been now
for for for for for conversational purposes, this is a
great conversation piece. I know how the outcome is going
to be based on what he can do when he
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touches the tam He's been a winner all his life.
Everywhere he's winning, and that same attitude and discipline and
the way of playing the game of football is going
to carry over in Cleveland as well. And this is
no disrespect to the other competitors on that team in
that specific position. It's going to carry over. He's already
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been through adversity, He's already faced these same obstacles every time.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's just another one he's going to overcome. And I'm
happy for the organization.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Hell, I'm happy for Browns fans because finally, what you've
always needed for so long is right there in your building.
All they doing is just prolong the situation.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
That's all they do.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
They don't need to prolong it anymore. They need to
find a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
They need to find one bad And you know, if
you go back and look at it, they really only
had two. I mean you got to go back to
Otto Graham An Graham, I think win like ten championships.
But that was that was that was like before your
before your mom and your grandmama.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
I seen auto ground play, I've seen I've seen the
black and white footage.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
And then you got you got yeah, and then you
got Bernie Baker.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Baker could have been good, but they have the pieces
around Baker. You see, Baker found a home. You know,
look in Tampa because you look at what Baker had
it at Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Hold on, do you forget to receive us Baker had
in Cleveland? You don't remember home?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Who we have.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Odell? If I'm not mistaken, right, Jarvis Landry, if I'm
not mistaken?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
And was it Donovan, Peter Jones or my tripping and
my off chat chat remind me, remind me of.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Right? Yeah, but that a that's something to work.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
But think about it. Yo.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Odell came out a broken leg. Oh they have a
torn a c L. We know Odell was not the
same player that he was in New York. He had
hurt and broke his leg in the Giants.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
He did Okay, okay, okay, thank you for getting me right.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Okay, Jarvis was a slot receiver, had great hands, durable.
But that's not that's not Mike Everys and Chris Godwin, Yo.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, Mike Mike Miah.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Now Godwin has gotten hurt a lot over the last
several years. But the one thing you can, hey, you
can send your clock by Mike Evans is gonna get
a thousand yards receiving. Mike ga was gonna get a
thousand yards receiving. He went somewhere. Carolina was not a
good fit for him. The Rams, we know he wasn't
gonna stick there. Uh uh. Stafford had gotten hurt. Stafford
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was their guy. He was never going to beat Stafford out.
But he goes to Tampa plays on a one year
deal in Boom. The rest is as they say, it's history,
and he's found a home because of Oklahoma. One look
at the receiver they had, Ceedee Lamb, who else? Who
else was the other receiver? I think Joe Mixon was
his running back. So he used to being around talented talent,
(36:11):
talent talent. Now they give him back, so now he
can shine, he can flourish. Yeah, we're gonna find out.
They're in a very very tough division. The Steelers got better,
The Ravens got better. The Bengals believe they've gotten better.
They've resigned their two offensive weapons. Joe Burrow has another
year in that system. The question is can they hold
(36:34):
up defensively because they put when when Ojo, it puts
a lot of pressure on your offense to have to
be perfect, to have to I mean, they have to
be perfect. Joe Burrow can turn them all over one time,
and sometimes that's enough to cause him to lose one turnover.
It's hard to play perfect, but that's what the Bengals
(36:57):
have to be because their defense, they score thirty eight,
they give up forty one. They scored thirty five, they
give up thirty eight, they scored thirty one, they give
up thirty four. Yeah, and Joe just has to, like damn,
who can't turn it over the day because our defense
ain't stopping no one. It's hard to play like that.
It really is, all right, O Joe. This is the
(37:19):
subject that you.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Also, there's something mainstream media hasn't reported much on in
the wake up June twenty third gas explosion that sparked
the fire at ravaged several units in the Rainbow Terrace
section of Garden Valley Apartments. Shador gave back to the community.
Over the course of four hours last Wednesday evening, nearly
one thousand residents of the Garden Valley Apartments gathered for
a family friendly, charitable event sponsored by Shador. The festivities
(37:49):
features and eleven year old DJ Lion dancing, free haircuts,
food truck grill food, and complimentary T shirts. In addition
to never turning down on selfie requests, should door join
residents in corn hold and makes your football game and
even blowing bubble with children props to your door.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
While hitting the ground running.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
When it comes to ingratiating himself into the Cleveland community.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I love it. I love it. I love it. I
love it. What's the one thing you get?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
You get?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Remember the movie Gradiator. Remember what he told Maximus when
the crowd you when you was your freedom, when the
crowd and the rest will take care of itself. He's
doing exactly Listen, he's doing exactly what you're supposed to do.
(38:44):
And bed and bed yourself in the community. Let them
see as a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I'm here.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I don't think. I don't think things went the way
they should have gone. But I'm here. That's that's gonna
take him far.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
With those on the outside of the stadium.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Far that means a lot.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
When's the last time you've seen a clean the Brown
quarterback do something like that?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
All of them done stuff in the community.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
I'm sure they all do. Every team, every team has
players that done. I mean to that, to that mame who.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Normally that's the first round pick, high draft choice, not
seventh round picks. It definitely not this time of the year.
Now maybe once the season starts. I've made the team.
I do things in the community. A blood drive, a
food bank close to the whatever the case may be,
Christmas gift turkeys for Thanksgiving, hams, whatever the case may be.
Oh Joe, Yeah, I get that I'm saying, but not
(39:44):
like this. But this is who he is.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Different, Yeah, this is who he is.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
So kudos to Shador for getting out of the community,
ingratiating himself and hey, good things.
Host
Shannon Sharpe
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