June 1, 2025 • 43 mins
Recap the best NFL topics of the week as Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Browns QB Joe Flacco commenting on his role, or lack there of, as a mentor to Shedeur Sanders, Dolphins WR Tyreek Hill walking back his trade request, and much more!
01:41 - Joe Flacco on mentoring rookie QBs
17:35 - Will Justin Fields have a breakout season?
26:31 - Tyreek Hill on off-season feud with Dolphins
33:30 - Playing football with off the field issues
37:00 - Reminiscing on Randy Moss
38:10 - Travis Kielce to retire after this year?
42:20 - Julio Jones hasn’t rewatched his Super Bowl loss to Patriots
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Joe Facco had a long answer when ask about mentoring
Shore during Dylan Gabriel. It's a good question to abate
somebody into answering, and no matter how they answer it,
it kind of looks like the guys answering look bad.
If I say I don't want to be a mentor,
I look bad if I say I don't want to
if I don't if I say I do want to mentor,
then I look like an idiot that doesn't care about
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being good at playing football. So one of those questions
that no matter what I say, you guys can write
what you want to write about it. And there's a
lot of questions like that. That's why I end up
having to try to avoid them. I tend to try
to be honest, and I've said I'm not a mentor.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I play football.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I have a lot of experience that I can talk
on things and hopefully they listen, but it's not necessarily
my job to make sure they listen to me. Hopefully
you have a really good relationship with the guys that
they're in the room, and you naturally want to do that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh Joe, what do you make of what Joe Blackels.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Saying, and that man is nothing there to be no
goddamn mentor. Man, these dudes behind me trying to take
food off my plate. They're trying to take money out
of my pocket. They here to take my goddamn job.
What are we talking about? I mean, I don't know
why we even asked that question. No, I'm not mentoring shit.
I'm trying to keep my job as what are we talking?
What are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I hate?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I mean, let's let's be real, let's be bo. Yeah,
I ain't about to be a self respecseed the NFL. Man.
Were we here to make money? And you sitting behind
me and me trying to mentor you? Why the hell
I'm gonna allow you to take food off my plate.
That's what you're here for. You here to take my job.
That's what it is. This is a business, here to
(01:45):
mentor you you get your own ship together. We ain't
in college no more. Ah.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
He's absolutely right. If you say I don't want to mentor,
I mean I mean something. Look, that's got to be natural.
It's just like you going on the job, o Joe,
and some guy takes you under their wing and says
a young fellow, a let me hit you to the game.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Let me tell you how I.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Was able to stay here twenty five years. Let me
tell you how I was able to he stay here
thirty years. That's a choice that he or she makes,
just says, you know what, I see something in this.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I see something in this young man, this.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Young woman that I want to partake in them, and
hopefully it's beneficial. But you're absolutely right, they're under no obligation.
I was the opposite. Young guys come in, I'm I'm
gonna try to say, make sure you study. I would
quiz them, Okay, this right here, what do you know?
Ask ask me a question? Why did I do Why
did I run the route like this? Why did I
(02:40):
do it like that? X, Y and Z? Okay, I'm
asking you, okay, did you not see that safety down?
The safety down told you the guy was coming, So
why was would he be down if he's in courage?
Why would he be down here like this unless somebody's
covering and he got to cover you because he knows
you're gonna be the heart receiver.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So it's little things like that. I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
One thousand percent on Joe's not It's not someone's job
to mentor you, because you know you get that on
a lot of jobs they bring bring somebody else saying, hey,
you know, teach him the roads and you know, teach
him how to do this.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, this is the NFL. The people sitting behind you
that they tell you to teach or there to take
your job. I mean, you come on, man, this isn't busy.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Absolutely, and you make means of dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
And you understand every time someone in drafted, every time
somebody in the board that room is to take your
damn job.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yep. So Joe Flackoh is what how Joe hold is
Joe nine?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Joe gotta be damn near forty because he's sixteen seasons
in the league.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
He had to come in. I don't think he came
out early.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, well, so he had put it like now, if
he at least thirty eight thirty nine, I don't know
if he's forty, but he's thirty eight thirty nine at least.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, how how old he is?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Joe trying to keep him job as long as he can.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, because you know what it's like, Oh your remember
they came and got him off his couch.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, he ain't tried to go back there anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
What you have to understand is the faster he mentors
whoever needs.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
To be whether it's Dylan Gabriel, whether.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Whether it's uh Is woman who's up. He turned forty,
Oh Joe, he turned forty in January. Hey, the fast
Heed mentors them, the better, the better they're prepared to
go and play with Jeff, Joe Flacko going home, Joe
going home, He going back to the couch. I'm sure
that's not what he wants. He wants to be in
there as long as he can. And for me anything,
(04:24):
I think Joe Flaham needs to start the season, regardless
that if there's a quarterback competition or not, Joe needs
to play as long as he can until the number
two or number twelve.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I'm gonna say it like that, until number twelve is
ready to go.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
That's it. I agree.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It's hard for me to steal a scenario in which
Dylan Gabriel or should Doure beats Flaco out and like, Okay, yeah,
this is the direction that we're going in to start
the season. I'm not sure he has a very long leash.
I'm not saying they're gonna let him go eight nine games,
then they only won one. Picket might have something to
(05:03):
say by that. I don't know, man, Like I said,
out of look, they got a lot of First of all,
you got a lot of quarterbacks in that room. You
bring flat go back, Yeah, who's a sixteen seventeen year vet.
(05:24):
You bring Kenny Pickett in from the Eagles, who's four
or five year vet? And you draft two quarterbacks. You're
not keeping four quarterbacks on your roster unless somebody goes
to the practice squad. Well, hell, you might have two
guys go to the practice squad because most times teams
don't have three quarterbacks raft dressed normally going to the
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game with two quarterbacks that you have an emergency quarterback
that's normally a receiver. And when you get that situation,
you just handed the damn ball off. So I don't
know me personally, Joe, I don't know what. I don't
know what the Browns were thinking in that situation. You
know what I'm saying, I know what they were thinking.
Tell me what you think.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
We need a security blanket, our security blanket, Joe Flacco,
We Jo could do when Deshaun went down and Joe
had to step in.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
We saw him have a six to seven game stretch
where he played phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Now, obviously weren't able to do it consistently because we
saw what happened when he took a nose dive statistically
and they started losing.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
But hey, let's bring Joe in because he knows the offense,
he knows the receivers, BINGO. We're gonna see what we
can do with Joe until we get these young bulls ready.
That's that's as simple as it gets.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Why bring Kenny Picky back? Then? Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You know Kenny Pickett in, who's Kenny Picky gonna beat out?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And I mean, no disrespect.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We've already we've seen a small samside what Kenny Pickett
doing when he was with the Steelers. What are we
talking about. He's not He's no threat. He's no threat
to anybody over there. I mean, let's be realistic. Well,
and I don't mean that in.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
You said, I disagree.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
If he was, he was, he would still be restarted.
Excuse me, it's very very early in Kenny's career. Great dude,
I love it. I love him to death. But if
you are whom you thought you were who we thought
you were, you would still be in Pittsburgh. True, that's all,
And I mean no disrespect. I'm saying in the in
(07:24):
the best way I can.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And that's my thing. Oh, Joe, That's what I don't get.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I don't know why you bring you know, you bring
two veterans in, you bring your draft two rookies. Obviously,
I don't believe Deshaun is going to be able to play.
I mean, he seems to think that he might be
able to play or I don't know. I don't see that,
but a maybe he went to a great orthopedic that
(07:52):
would repaired it. I don't know if he went to Elatroge.
I don't know he went to the guy in New York,
James Andrews, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I don't know Watkins. I don't know who he went to.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
But it's just hard for me to see Deshaun playing
this year when he tore down Achilles and he retoreed
Yack goals? Was I saying, now, Joe flaccoh we know
what Joe Flack oh is. It's been a long time
since Joey has started the season fourteen.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's been a backup guys don't perform well. He comes in.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
The question is with what they have offensively, do you
believe Joe can take them to the playoffs because right
now they start the season, they're behind.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
They're behind.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Since me, I would have them behind Cincinnati, I wouldn't
have them behind Baltimore. Not sure I would have them
in front of us. Not sure I would have them
in front of the Steeler. Now we don't know who
the Steeler from them, Yeah, exactly. We don't know who
the Stellers. I mean, who the Steelers quarterback is.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
That is why I put the Browns in front of them,
based on flack Os resume in general.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
And then what we we know we can do.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
He can, he can bypass and steal some games based
on experience alone. You got Judy over there and and Joke,
who's over there. I'm not sure who's at the running
back position.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I'm not sure who the other receiver on the other
side may be. But I think I think Joe's gonna
be fine. He's gonna be fine until until he's not,
until they feel they have to make a change, and
the fans will let you know what it's time to
make a.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Change, true, true, man. That's a tough situation. That's a
very tough situation.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
And then every day they posting the quarterback stat uh
Wednesday ot A the twenty eight Flacco had nine completions
on fourteen attempts, one touchdown, no interceptions, sixty four percent completion.
Dylan Gabriel he was eleven of sixteen, two touchdowns, one
an exception sixty nine percent. Your door was seven to nine,
(10:15):
three touchdowns, no interceptions seventy eight percent. And Kenny Pickett
was nine of sixteen, no touchdowns, no picks fifty six percent.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, I'll take you.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I'll take all those stats in practice with a grain
of salt. Mean you and no t You ain't got
no shoulder paths, rush shoulder paths. You got short song jersey.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I ain't trying to run through no dps and break
the pass up. That don't mean nothing. Holler at me.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Let me see how you look preseason when we were
playing against somebody that don't know what's coming. When it's
love in the bullzz are flying, it's live action. You
got pressure coming, you got eyes, you got hands in
your face. You got three you got two and a half,
maybe three seconds. You got people trying to make a team,
trying to make a squad, trying to make sure they
(11:01):
don't get.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Cut, make it off.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You come on now, talk talk to me then, let
me know, let me know what the numbers look like.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Then when it actually counts.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
That's your how far we come on? Yoe? This this
is what they do now. They charge stuff like this
and me absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
And you know, I hate some of the some of
the some of the pages on Twitter and the routes
on air.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Oh my goodness, look at that beautiful deep ball.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
But nigga, sorry, ain't no pressure beautiful?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Of course it's a perfect pass. Like Yeah, but that's
where we are, o Joe.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Everything, everything get charted and everything, I mean, they look,
the teams always charted these stuff. They always kept with
you know, how many rocks you ran, how many times
you won, blah blah, lot of defense did they win,
how many how many routes did he cover, how many
paths did he break up pick blah blah blah. At
the time, you get me, The teams have always kept
stuff like this, that's how they evaluated. Yeah, but we
(12:12):
don't normally have publications Twitter, whoever, did you know whether
it's a YouTube or whomever that charted stuff like this
and keep a tallly of.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It means nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I mean, you're supposed to get up it on the air,
You're supposed to catch it on there, You're supposed to
complete it on there. It's supposed to look perfect. Yeah,
it's not supposed to look chaotic. So look, Chadur knows
what he's up against. He knows he's not a first
three round pick, so there's no assurances that he's going
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to be on the team. He understands that. I'm sure
his dad has told him that. I'm sure his agent
has told you. I don't know if I don't know
if it's it's dad, I don't know if his agent,
who his agent is. But I'm saying I'm sure they
told him, made him aware. There are no guarantees. The
Browns probably made well. The matter of fact, where you
(13:14):
was drafted less, you know there are no guarantees. Come
on now.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
But if your door is what he believes he is,
I don't see the problem.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So Joe Flacco, Dylan Gabers, Shador Sanders, Kenny Pickett all
fighting for I believe two spots, two spots and the
other guy's gonna probably beat uh practice squad, practice squad.
(13:55):
I mean you guys, I mean, like you said, don't
tell me ish, I need to see some preseects now.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Probably Joe black Old probably is gonna play in the preseason,
So that means Dylan Gabris, Shador and Penny Kenny Pickett's
gonna get all the snaps and.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
In preas all of them all right, I mean, listen,
Flaco might get a series if that.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, if that.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I get, I agree, I agree, I agree. But these
other guys, oh, y'all play it and playing.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Lots a lot, a lot despite it not even start
to his career.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Jess quarterback Justin Fields, believe he's on the cuspop of
a breakout season. He thinks it's the right team, the
right time, in the right team, I think I can
be great. That's been the goal of my whole life,
my whole career. I think this guy's the limit for
this team, for this offense. But we have a long
way to go. Our offense and defense are new, so
guys are really tuned in, locked in, trying to get
everything down. But I think once we do, I think
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the sky's the lim it. I mean, we have all
the guys we need, We have all the talent, so
it's really just just going to come down to discipline
and execution.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
And listen, everybody has all the talent. It always is
always come down to discipline, execution, but also come down
to the coaches. You know, it's nothing but a chess match.
I always say this all the time when it comes
to playing the game of football, understanding your strengths and
understanding your players' weaknesses, putting your players in the right
places to make the plays, understanding who they're playing against,
understanding what their weaknesses are, and putting them in the
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best position to make plays against said individual players that
also get paid millions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
That's what it all comes down to.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Having an office of coordinator or a deepensive coordinator that doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
A an ego.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
An ego, Well, this is my system, and I want
you to run my system my way, despite whether you
can do what I like called will or not. That's
what There's so many different barriers that come into it.
Justin field is supposed to feel that way. He's fold
to feel like this is the great system of great scheme,
break whatever it is. But everybody looks good and shorts
(16:05):
and shirts we all do. Now it's a different game.
When we talk we talked about the Jets. We know
what happened when the goddamn lights come on Sunday at
one o'clock. There's always been a different story. Now for
for Justin, for his sake, this is to make a
break break a year for him. You know, you have
you have a stellar you have a phenomenal suit. This year,
you get you a nice big paid eight boy. What
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you what you are deserving of? You know now you're
getting a fair shot. You getting another fair shot. You
know obvious Chicago didn't go so well. Now you have
a first start. Most of the time, sometimes quarterbacks aren't
given a second chance.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I keep.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Now, you got to make the most of it. Get
that ball, the number five. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
That might be five. You're gonna be all right, you definitely, Uh,
I agree with you, with you.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I think this is a year that he's gonna have
to You know, Chicago, He's like, look, man, what he
had offensive coordinator didn't do much. They didn't put him
in the right situation. That didn't protect him well enough,
X Y and Z goes to Pittsburgh. I thought he
played well. I was surprised with Mike Tomlin made the
move and asserted Russ after Russ had missed it the
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games with the calf injury.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
But hey, it is what itils.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I thought he had some nice talent arounding Pickens, he
had some guys that can make players around. In Firemoth,
they ran the ball okay with Nigie Harrison, Jalen Warren.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But now new coach.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
What seems to be a competent offensive coordinator, decent offensive
line and weapons arounding. They've tried to remove the hedge,
which is the excuse that you would have if things
don't go well.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I'm room for the young man thirteen oho in three years.
Situation matters. Now you can't go to five, ten sixty
situations and say, well, that situation wasn't right for me,
that situation wasn't right for me, that situation wasn't right
(18:12):
for me, O Joe. At some point in time, you
got to accept a responsibility.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And you gotta look at that mirror. Mica Jackson said,
you gotta start with the man in the mirror.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, I do believe ag how the great group of guys,
offensive coordinator, quarterback, coach surrounding them with the talent. Now
it's just time for m letus. God give an ability
to go out there and take over. Don't overthink it. Prepare,
be prepped, be ready to go. Know whathere you're supposed
to go, Know where you're supposed to go with the ball,
Go with it. Yeah, don't be afraid to use your legs.
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You know sometimes people like, well, I'm gonna shore, I
can throw the ball. Okay, what makes what makes these
guys dangerous is their legs. Nobody's not fearing their arm.
I don't want you to run.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I don't want you to escape because I know, I
know what type of speed you got. I know you
can hit your head on the gold post. So he's
played well last last twelve Stars. He has an eight
and foarter record on chow seventeen passing in Russian touchdowns,
only seven interceptions.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Like I said, we talked about it last year. I
was surprised that they made.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
The change because I thought he played well, could have
won the game and uh and ended they lost that game.
Fields will make us the debut with the Jets September seventh,
against the Steelers team that traded for him last year,
then benched him in favor of Russell Wilson after four
and to start, Fields offered no insight intok the matchup,
Oh that's what was late week won.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Really it really wasn't a thought any extra motivation, no.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
No playball, just playball, No motivation needed. Hey, it's already
be there regardless. I don't care what happened in the past.
I don't care what happened in the past.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Boy, they wanted him back, but he's like, nah, after
the way y'all did me. Had I been playing back,
had I been zero and six, had I been two
and four, I can understand you going in a different direction.
But that was two games over five hundred and I
don't think. Maybe I'm trying to think, what was that
game that Russ came back and they won.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I would have to I would have to look back.
I can't remember off the top of my head. But
I don't think the Steelers won any games that they
probably wouldn't have won if Russ. If Russ wasn't in there.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, but you also have to understand Mike Tomlin gave
his word to Russ. Mike Tomlin gave his word to Russ,
so he had to stick by his word because I
think everyone, including Russe Wilson, would have been looking at
Tomlin funny after already voicing who was going to be
the starter publicly to everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So whenever Russ was helped, situations changed. Jojo, you can't
go back on that. I can't go back on that.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Ooe hope everybody gonna be looking at him funny.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
That's why he looked at me funny. I mean, I
like look at it. Oh yo. I like sweets.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But if the doctor told me I got died beaties,
I can't be eating no sweets, right, he said, shall
you got hot blood pressure? I can't be eating no pork.
I got a change thing. You go six and oh
you five and one? You four and two?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Your like, Hey, Russ, I understand, I know what I said.
But so if that's the case, when they lost four
games in the land of the season, why did they
go back to why did they go back to justin fields?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Then? Because you did him like that?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Hey, all the coature, all the man has is his
word on man.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That don't work, and that's not working. In coaching, you know,
you go with the hot land whoa, whoa. Oh okay, okay,
that's because here this is why I look.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Oh wait a minute, wait wait, wait, wait a minute.
The hand stayed hot now for what three four games
in a row? Now the hand that the hand stayed.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Hot justin field for four and two O YOA, you
didn't hear what I just said. You made the change.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
The hand still stayed hot, yes, three or four games
in a row. And then you shouldn't change because my
hand was hot. You tried to pour water on me
to cool my hand off. Yeah, I got cool standing
on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
All I know is Mike Tomlin had to stay and
kept promised his word that he said before the season started.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Russ was our starter.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
So whenever he was healthy, he would get back in
the lineup as said started like I said before the
season started.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's all right, Love, That's one thing I can honestly
say I loved about Mike. But Mike Shanahan, Mike Shannon said,
look here, you might be the starter, right, but if
that guy comes in and he's playing better than you,
then when you were starting, he the starter.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Hey, Hey, who's the who the who's a quarterback that
was in Denver?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Right, had the big ass, the big old beard talking
about the beer was huge, sticking up out to helmet
like Fitzpatrick. It wasn't Fitzpatrick, but hey, it was kyl Looyd.
H he could slank that ball man had the big
old lumberjack beard.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I think I think he.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Was throwing to the random Lloyd. Randon Lloyd.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That's who had some hands. People talking about everybody else
they be mentioning got hands. People don't realize how good
are hands that joker had.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
When b Lloyd was catching all a achromatic catches, boy.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Go back, I mean before the technology and the tactified
gloves he was doing that with.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
There was no tax, Yeah there was, show, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Show was go back and look at go back and
look at Brandon Lloyd when he was with the Broncos
and with the forty nine ers. Forty nine ers. Yeah,
be lord was nice with it. Tyreek Hill spoke with
local media for the first time since suggesting a trade
request after Miami's season ending loss to the Jets in January,
making himself unavailable in the second half.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
He walked. He walked.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
His comments back this week and publicly apologized for them.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It was tough, man. Obviously emotions were high there.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But at the end of the day, I'm just looking
to move forward from that, hoping that I can prove
myself and prove to my teammates that I'm still one
of them ones. Man who's chasing two k receiving, still
one of those ones chasing the playoff dreams and all
that great stuff. I've got to prove to myself. I
got to show up different. The mindset's got to be different,
he said. He attended church and therapy over the past month,
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and he says it's helped him reflect on his decision making,
namely why it's been so difficult for him to stay
out of the headlines that aren't football related.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
It's tough.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
The only thing I'm gonna say, man, is money is
crazy thing for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I love what he said, and I said this old Joe,
you can't take yourself out of that game. He got
that captaincy on his shirt, That Joe that carry a
little that carry a lot of weight. Yeah, that carries
a lot of weight.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And for him and they're asking him, you hurt if
he was hurt. Oh cho, I ain't got no problem
with it. I don't, I don't me. I'm gonna try
to cut gutting up as long as I possibly can.
And when I can't go, I can't go. But to
just take yourself out of the game because you're not
catching any passes or the ball not being thrown to you.
You and some of the stuff that he said. Look,
and when emotional high, I get it. When emotion is high,
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logic is move.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And sometimes we let our emotions get the best of us,
and we say things and we do things that we
wish we can take back. But I love I love
a man that's reflective. I love a man that can
stand there and says, you know, I was wrong, And
I'm gonna try to be I'm not only gonna try
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to be a better football player, but I'm gonna try
to be a better man.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And he's right. Money money, boy, Look here, money changes.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Not only can money change you, it can change the
way people see you, the way they knew you, how
they treat you, how they behave around you.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So all we figures because I've always liked Tyree. Here's
a guy, o Jo that had immense speeding. We know
the man's named Cheetah, so we know he can run.
But O Joe, he taught himself to run routes. He
wasn't just a gadget guy. They run into him, some
jet sweeps, you know, the punt kickoff return, O Joe,
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they just did. But he all of a sudden, he
started running the smoke. He can run the speed, I
can run the comeback. He can run the dig. He
can run the over, he can run the slant. Now,
a guy with that kind of speed that can close
that cushion.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
He turned himself into a Hall of Famer. Yeah, yep,
he gonna be all right. Yes, he has to be.
He has to be. He needs to be in there.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
He understands, ojo. He you want to knew you want
a contract extension. Well, I got to pay you on
what I believe you can be moving forward, not on
what you've done. I know about that eighteen hundred nineteen
hundre yard season that you had, unbelievable. You were sensational.
I paid you for that made you want the highest
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payd receivers in football. You were the highest paid until
all these other guys started getting that contract. Now if
I were to extend you or give you a new contract,
O Joe, I got to base it on what do
I think Tyreek Hill? Am I gonna be able to
count on Tyreek Hill the next two three years? Because
that's what I gotta pay, That's what I'm paying for.
And you see whether the wide receiver money is going ohoey,
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that thing is north to thirty five chases in the forties.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, listen, But I love a man that can look
and say, you know, hey, it's me. Yeah, even right.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
We all get big up calls. We all get calls
in different forms. Sometimes some of them. Sometimes God, they
gotta shake you real hard.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, you get your attention. He's all nothing to see.
But no, when you shake your real heart, he wants
your undivided attention. Sometimes he'll do something you just falled like, okay,
I heard you.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, hey, he right, be right.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Because it's something that some things that can happen that
can sit you down real quick. Yes, and it hit home.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
It hit home.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
He's focused going to therapy, and the fact that he
has to prove himself, the fact that he even feels
he has to prove himself is to me and well,
you know who you are, We know what you can do.
We know why your numbers weren't where they were last year.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
But anyway, but having to prove yourself again if your
quarterback can stay up right and healthy.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But you know, if you think about that nineteen yard season,
But think.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
About it, how did the season start controversy and it
ended the same way. You see, remember how we say,
oh Joe, you limp it to the season, you limp
out of it.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, you're right, you come in, you come in the
bull jive bullgyvee, follow you out of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So, like I said, he learned, he going through a
lot of you a lot of stuff going off, going
on off the field. Uh that's not football related. Maybe
maybe that was weighing on his mind. Oh tell people
don't understand man. Sometimes boy, you have stuff going on
and you have to be able to come partmentalize. And
some people come mindalize better than others. Some people can
stay tonal focus. When I'm on this football field, the
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most important thing is this football me catching it me
and accepted in me sac of the quarterback or whatever
running the football, whatever game can it be. And then
once I'm off this football field, I got to deal
with day to day of life. Yeah, family, friends, loved ones, kids,
and you know what, that's that's why I like, that's
why I loved when I was playing. Obviously I didn't
have I didn't have many issues off the field until
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obviously on the back end. But I'm saying during that
during that early time, that first decade, you know, I
ain't had no issues.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
You did not what I was able to do.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
If I did have anything, linger.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Which was very, very very small, I.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Knew once I walked in that locker room, Oh man,
that's that's my that's my safe space, that's my heaven.
Going to practice, going to meetings, I ain't had to
worry about nothing. So life, everything was at ease. Once
I entered that stadium, once I touched that gras, once
I could smell that grass, I was at peace.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Now I understood.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Once we got out of meetings and we watched field
after practice.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Okay, now back to reality. Now back of cares. Oh yo,
they like, I'm glad it's him not me. I don't care.
He got him right.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
So at the end of the day, a lot of
the problems if they're not family oriented. I mean, your
family they're really only want they care.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Bro, you're playing football, you making thirty million dollars a year,
you make it X amount of money. I wish I
made that kind of money because the people think money
solves everything.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
It don't.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
It don't.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Because I promise you there's there's disappointment, there's heartbreak that
even no amount of money can absolve you from.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That can shield you from. And so you know, look,
Tyrek is human and all humans have emotions.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Now, it takes different stimuli to trigger emotions, but the
right stimulus will trimble that will elicit sadness, disappointment, joy, heartbreak,
just the way that we are. We are who we are,
even the toughest. So I hope I really do because
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I thought. I mean, look, he I still believe he's
a Hall of Famer, but I want to see him
bounce back because I think he's one of the most
tality receivers that ever played a game.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
He's special. Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I'm glad he's not six foot tall. Can you imagine
him six foot tall with that speed, with his mindset?
Speaker 4 (32:04):
O yo, if he was six years tall, he wouldn't
be able to do the things he's doing now.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
At the height he is. But hell, look at Randy Balls.
God bade Randy balls fixed ball. He gave him that speed.
Randy Moss couldn't run routes he ran. He got one
hundred fifty three touchdowns. He did something I don't know what.
He did a lot.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, he caught a lot of junk balls and he
caught a lot of gold balls. But no, I mean,
Randy wuldn't try to run those speed outs. He wouldn't
try to. I mean he run the hook, he run
the smoke route. Catching me with a guy like Randy
put the ball in his hands. All of us put
the ball in his hands. I'm gonna make you make
a decision. How you gonna get him on the ground,
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because I got in the ball?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Hey and man, every time, every time I think about
seeing Randy aung the dB off normally you know, the
dB seven yards three step, read the quarterback after three step,
get your ass back on the receiver. Mm hmm, Man, Randy,
the dude is seven yards Olf, Randy take three steps,
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he don't close the cushion and then threw his hand up.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Hey, the dB ceiling is damn backpedal. Man, What the.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Fuck you do? Hey? And then you know the fame
was coming on the goal line inside the five, you
know the.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Famous you could do, Yeah, none, you could do.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
But uh but Ty could get it figured out. Yeah,
he get it figured out. Patrick Mahomes said, Travis Kelsey
doesn't seem like the player. Seemed like a player on
his last ride. If it's his last ride, you would
never know. The way he's talking about football, the way
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he's talking about working, trying to be even better than
he was last year, it doesn't seem like a guy
that's on his last ride or he's tired of the job.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
He's in here, he's working. I know his body feels good.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
He feels better than even last year before going into
last season, just.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Because he's motivated to have an even better year.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, I think, look, you know, new relationship, Oh show
new relationship.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You know he's out. You know she imna support my lady.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And I think the thing I think he deep down
and so he knows he didn't put that He didn't
put the time in that he needed to. He didn't
put that work in, putting that work in. Now look
like it. I guess he looks like his body has changed.
He's lost some weight.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Uh me, you have to realize they're comparing Traft to
a younger Traft.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
They're not comparing him to Laporter and all these other guys.
They compared him to his younger self and what they
saw him do. We used to him being the premiure
tight end and all the football and no question who best?
Travis Kelsey. Yeah, now you got other guys. Now you
got Laporta said, hey, what about me? You got McBride
and Arizona say what about me? You got Bowers in Oakland?
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What about me? I mean, excuse me, Las Vegas? What
about me? Kittle? So you got other guys. That's like,
hold on, it's not a Fourgonne conclusion anymore. Now, Traves, Hey,
I want to stay attached to that. That that best
tidy end conversation, and uh it'll humble you man.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, yeah, you got put that work in, but also
put is one thing. Putting in the work.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
But also he ain't gonna need help as well.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I think Rahid writes, being back, you saw a uh Worthy,
You see him get better and better and better. Now
if Trave comes back eighty five percent of what he was,
byty percent of what he was at his absolute best.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
You got Hollywood brown back.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
The question is, O, yoe, that's nice offensive offensive the
offensive line.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
What they're gonna look like? Which office is like a
look like?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
You know, they drafted off asive tackle out of Ohio
State in the first round to be a left tackle. Uh,
you got Trey Smith, you got Humphrey. You got one
of the best centers in football, one of the best
right guards in football. But they were lacking at the
other position. And the rareed it raared his head in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It did.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
But uh, I'm glad Travis is putting that time in.
You know, But at this point in time, Oh Joe,
you know, you don't, You don't. I mean sometimes you know.
But at the end of the day, you take it
one year at a time. Now, he done got past ten,
this one at a time. It ain't no more. Man,
that got me five more. I'm taking one at a time.
If I get five, thank you Jesus. If I get one,
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if I get two, hell I got two more of
them than the original number that I set for myself.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
At that point, you just pray for you, pray you
get in the extra years.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, because I mean I wanted five. I was like
man if I can just get if I can get
me one. Once I got the one, I was like,
man if I get the five on sho five years.
Once I got the five, I was like a ten
to the gold. I gotta get ten. Let me get
the ten. Yeah, once I got a ten, okay, let
me try to get lever. Let me try to get twelve.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
I'm trying to steal the year after year.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, I showed one to steal me one. I don't
think I was able to steal one, but I was
gonna steal me one. I don't know if it's gonna
be fifteen to sixteen, but I was gonna steal one.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Year. Like damn, Sharp show don't look the same. I'm
not but them jacks to.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Say, I don't don't. Sep can still a run, but
y'all just can't get over like you were. Searp ain't
got the wigged like you was had. Julio Jones says
he's not rewatched his Super Bowl fifty one loss to
the Patriots. I had four opportunities the whole game. That's insane,
that's ridiculous. Four targets the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Also, Julio got to understand who you plan. What does
Bill Belichick do best? Take away your team's best officer weapon.
It's what he's knowing. That's what he always he's always
has done regards to you line up, regards to you
line up. The defensive play call is that is made
based on you line up. So he gonna boom number one,
he taking that out.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yep, take you out.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
So I mean Julio, I mean sure Julio understands that now.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
And anybody that's gonna play it against the Bill Belichick
defense understands that as well. Hell, when I knew I
was playing against the Patriots, I didn't get I didn't
get my hopes up.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Curse. I already knew what time was, already.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Knew who's just gonna eat whoever the third receiver was,
they're gonna eat.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
He just understand that going to those games.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
I just didn't get when they got that lead, why
they wouldn't run the football. But people say, well, you
do what you did when you got what got you there.
But you gotta be smart. You gotta be smart, oh Joe, Yeah,
and then and and and and and and Kyle would smart.
And it falls on DQ two because he's the head
coach all right, run it, hey, don't be afraid to
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run it here, just to keep to keep throwing the ball,
stopping the clock.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Why that? Yeah, they're not getting over that.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
And bluss Rewatching it does not change the outcome.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
You probably don't want to You probably don't want to
relive that. Well, no, I want to relive that. Don't
want to rehash it. Then you're watching it. You only
have four targets. I mean, there's really nothing to see.
You had a great sideline though, phenomenal catch. I'm sure
you've seen every play over and over and over. But
losing a game like that, being up twenty three and
still losing, I mean, nobody wants to rehash or read it.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Because oh yoe.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
But at that point where Julio made that spectacular catch,
then field goal range, Yeah, the ball?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Why would you throw it? Why run the ball? Kick
the field goal? Walk it off? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Hey, why did Russell Wilson not change the play? Call
to god damn, run play and run. I'm I'm I'm
betting on Marshawn Lincon. Okay, they stopped him the first time.
I'm betting make him stop him again, make him stop
him again. I'm betting you're you're gonna have to listen.
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You're gonna have to show me for sure. I ain't
putting the ball.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
And if I didn't get him in, I don't deserve
to win the ball game.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
But if you if you go back and think about it, though, Joe,
they emper the backfield so so Marshwan is not even
a threat to run the football. Yeah, at least you
got to have him back there so he's a threat.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
And give him something to think about.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Coach Brian Schottenheimer said they are making changes to the cadence.
Sounds like there will be no more here we go.
There it went, they changed it. Hey, that was dope, man.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
But outside of the defense being able to time it,
I mean that would be the only oh man, uh no,
here we go, and I think that's that would be
the only no.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Just say said hut. Everybody trying to try to do
some things you just get. It's like you know what
everybody trying to get. Everybody trying to get, like a
recording contract or a new recording contract. Singing the national anthem.
It's the national Anantha sing it and sit your bass,
sit you ass down. Everybody want to go up there
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and try to sing, but make it draw it out
two or three two minutes, three minutes. Come on, if
you're saying that. For the most part, if you say
a national anthem, you probably already got a contract, especially
if it's a big, a big, you know, a big event,
you know, super Bowl, All Star Game, World Series and playoffs.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Y'all, y'alla, y'alla. Come on that. Everybody tried to dread
dress it up.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Uh. The the Cadence Blue nineteen Blue nineteen said, hut.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Or you are audible? Uh we had a.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Uh Blue fifty nine razor Blue fifty nine Razor, but
they did they't do it too much.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah. I couldn't even need it. Hey, I couldn't even
hit it, damn king. I just watched the ball.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
I had to hear ka because there sometimes that I
would be a guy and I had to run. I
had to run the adjust ride, I had to run
the seven route right, so I needed I needed it here.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
But for the most part, like when I'm in expecting
without the tight end.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Now, OBUs, you know, they changed the player and I
already knew I was hot, So I'm just I'm seeing
what what they got. Joshing around. Okay, they brought two
to my side. They brought one to my side. TV's
and TV's figure them up. They got to bring two
to make me hot. Hey, they bring something backside that
doesn't that doesn't pack me. But there are sometimes we
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go into a game that hey, if you get hey, pete.
They bring they might bring they might only bring one
one side.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
But if they bring the
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Guy backside, just if you see him coming, just just
turn around, except you give him a look.
Joe Facco had a long answer when ask about mentoring
Shore during Dylan Gabriel. It's a good question to abate
somebody into answering, and no matter how they answer it,
it kind of looks like the guys answering look bad.
If I say I don't want to be a mentor,
I look bad if I say I don't want to
if I don't if I say I do want to mentor,
then I look like an idiot that doesn't care about
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being good at playing football. So one of those questions
that no matter what I say, you guys can write
what you want to write about it. And there's a
lot of questions like that. That's why I end up
having to try to avoid them. I tend to try
to be honest, and I've said I'm not a mentor.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I play football.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I have a lot of experience that I can talk
on things and hopefully they listen, but it's not necessarily
my job to make sure they listen to me. Hopefully
you have a really good relationship with the guys that
they're in the room, and you naturally want to do that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh Joe, what do you make of what Joe Blackels.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Saying, and that man is nothing there to be no
goddamn mentor. Man, these dudes behind me trying to take
food off my plate. They're trying to take money out
of my pocket. They here to take my goddamn job.
What are we talking about? I mean, I don't know
why we even asked that question. No, I'm not mentoring shit.
I'm trying to keep my job as what are we talking?
What are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I hate?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I mean, let's let's be real, let's be bo. Yeah,
I ain't about to be a self respecseed the NFL. Man.
Were we here to make money? And you sitting behind
me and me trying to mentor you? Why the hell
I'm gonna allow you to take food off my plate.
That's what you're here for. You here to take my job.
That's what it is. This is a business, here to
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mentor you you get your own ship together. We ain't
in college no more. Ah.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
He's absolutely right. If you say I don't want to mentor,
I mean I mean something. Look, that's got to be natural.
It's just like you going on the job, o Joe,
and some guy takes you under their wing and says
a young fellow, a let me hit you to the game.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Let me tell you how I.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Was able to stay here twenty five years. Let me
tell you how I was able to he stay here
thirty years. That's a choice that he or she makes,
just says, you know what, I see something in this.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I see something in this young man, this.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Young woman that I want to partake in them, and
hopefully it's beneficial. But you're absolutely right, they're under no obligation.
I was the opposite. Young guys come in, I'm I'm
gonna try to say, make sure you study. I would
quiz them, Okay, this right here, what do you know?
Ask ask me a question? Why did I do Why
did I run the route like this? Why did I
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do it like that? X, Y and Z? Okay, I'm
asking you, okay, did you not see that safety down?
The safety down told you the guy was coming, So
why was would he be down if he's in courage?
Why would he be down here like this unless somebody's
covering and he got to cover you because he knows
you're gonna be the heart receiver.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So it's little things like that. I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
One thousand percent on Joe's not It's not someone's job
to mentor you, because you know you get that on
a lot of jobs they bring bring somebody else saying, hey,
you know, teach him the roads and you know, teach
him how to do this.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, this is the NFL. The people sitting behind you
that they tell you to teach or there to take
your job. I mean, you come on, man, this isn't busy.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Absolutely, and you make means of dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
And you understand every time someone in drafted, every time
somebody in the board that room is to take your
damn job.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yep. So Joe Flackoh is what how Joe hold is
Joe nine?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Joe gotta be damn near forty because he's sixteen seasons
in the league.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
He had to come in. I don't think he came
out early.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, well, so he had put it like now, if
he at least thirty eight thirty nine, I don't know
if he's forty, but he's thirty eight thirty nine at least.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, how how old he is?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Joe trying to keep him job as long as he can.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, because you know what it's like, Oh your remember
they came and got him off his couch.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, he ain't tried to go back there anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
What you have to understand is the faster he mentors
whoever needs.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
To be whether it's Dylan Gabriel, whether.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Whether it's uh Is woman who's up. He turned forty,
Oh Joe, he turned forty in January. Hey, the fast
Heed mentors them, the better, the better they're prepared to
go and play with Jeff, Joe Flacko going home, Joe
going home, He going back to the couch. I'm sure
that's not what he wants. He wants to be in
there as long as he can. And for me anything,
(04:24):
I think Joe Flaham needs to start the season, regardless
that if there's a quarterback competition or not, Joe needs
to play as long as he can until the number
two or number twelve.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I'm gonna say it like that, until number twelve is
ready to go.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
That's it. I agree.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It's hard for me to steal a scenario in which
Dylan Gabriel or should Doure beats Flaco out and like, Okay, yeah,
this is the direction that we're going in to start
the season. I'm not sure he has a very long leash.
I'm not saying they're gonna let him go eight nine games,
then they only won one. Picket might have something to
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say by that. I don't know, man, Like I said,
out of look, they got a lot of First of all,
you got a lot of quarterbacks in that room. You
bring flat go back, Yeah, who's a sixteen seventeen year vet.
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You bring Kenny Pickett in from the Eagles, who's four
or five year vet? And you draft two quarterbacks. You're
not keeping four quarterbacks on your roster unless somebody goes
to the practice squad. Well, hell, you might have two
guys go to the practice squad because most times teams
don't have three quarterbacks raft dressed normally going to the
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game with two quarterbacks that you have an emergency quarterback
that's normally a receiver. And when you get that situation,
you just handed the damn ball off. So I don't
know me personally, Joe, I don't know what. I don't
know what the Browns were thinking in that situation. You
know what I'm saying, I know what they were thinking.
Tell me what you think.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
We need a security blanket, our security blanket, Joe Flacco,
We Jo could do when Deshaun went down and Joe
had to step in.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
We saw him have a six to seven game stretch
where he played phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Now, obviously weren't able to do it consistently because we
saw what happened when he took a nose dive statistically
and they started losing.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
But hey, let's bring Joe in because he knows the offense,
he knows the receivers, BINGO. We're gonna see what we
can do with Joe until we get these young bulls ready.
That's that's as simple as it gets.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Why bring Kenny Picky back? Then? Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You know Kenny Pickett in, who's Kenny Picky gonna beat out?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And I mean, no disrespect.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We've already we've seen a small samside what Kenny Pickett
doing when he was with the Steelers. What are we
talking about. He's not He's no threat. He's no threat
to anybody over there. I mean, let's be realistic. Well,
and I don't mean that in.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
You said, I disagree.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
If he was, he was, he would still be restarted.
Excuse me, it's very very early in Kenny's career. Great dude,
I love it. I love him to death. But if
you are whom you thought you were who we thought
you were, you would still be in Pittsburgh. True, that's all,
And I mean no disrespect. I'm saying in the in
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the best way I can.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And that's my thing. Oh, Joe, That's what I don't get.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I don't know why you bring you know, you bring
two veterans in, you bring your draft two rookies. Obviously,
I don't believe Deshaun is going to be able to play.
I mean, he seems to think that he might be
able to play or I don't know. I don't see that,
but a maybe he went to a great orthopedic that
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would repaired it. I don't know if he went to Elatroge.
I don't know he went to the guy in New York,
James Andrews, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I don't know Watkins. I don't know who he went to.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
But it's just hard for me to see Deshaun playing
this year when he tore down Achilles and he retoreed
Yack goals? Was I saying, now, Joe flaccoh we know
what Joe Flack oh is. It's been a long time
since Joey has started the season fourteen.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's been a backup guys don't perform well. He comes in.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
The question is with what they have offensively, do you
believe Joe can take them to the playoffs because right
now they start the season, they're behind.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
They're behind.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Since me, I would have them behind Cincinnati, I wouldn't
have them behind Baltimore. Not sure I would have them
in front of us. Not sure I would have them
in front of the Steeler. Now we don't know who
the Steeler from them, Yeah, exactly. We don't know who
the Stellers. I mean, who the Steelers quarterback is.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
That is why I put the Browns in front of them,
based on flack Os resume in general.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
And then what we we know we can do.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
He can, he can bypass and steal some games based
on experience alone. You got Judy over there and and Joke,
who's over there. I'm not sure who's at the running
back position.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I'm not sure who the other receiver on the other
side may be. But I think I think Joe's gonna
be fine. He's gonna be fine until until he's not,
until they feel they have to make a change, and
the fans will let you know what it's time to
make a.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Change, true, true, man. That's a tough situation. That's a
very tough situation.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
And then every day they posting the quarterback stat uh
Wednesday ot A the twenty eight Flacco had nine completions
on fourteen attempts, one touchdown, no interceptions, sixty four percent completion.
Dylan Gabriel he was eleven of sixteen, two touchdowns, one
an exception sixty nine percent. Your door was seven to nine,
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three touchdowns, no interceptions seventy eight percent. And Kenny Pickett
was nine of sixteen, no touchdowns, no picks fifty six percent.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, I'll take you.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I'll take all those stats in practice with a grain
of salt. Mean you and no t You ain't got
no shoulder paths, rush shoulder paths. You got short song jersey.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I ain't trying to run through no dps and break
the pass up. That don't mean nothing. Holler at me.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Let me see how you look preseason when we were
playing against somebody that don't know what's coming. When it's
love in the bullzz are flying, it's live action. You
got pressure coming, you got eyes, you got hands in
your face. You got three you got two and a half,
maybe three seconds. You got people trying to make a team,
trying to make a squad, trying to make sure they
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don't get.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Cut, make it off.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You come on now, talk talk to me then, let
me know, let me know what the numbers look like.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Then when it actually counts.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
That's your how far we come on? Yoe? This this
is what they do now. They charge stuff like this
and me absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
And you know, I hate some of the some of
the some of the pages on Twitter and the routes
on air.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Oh my goodness, look at that beautiful deep ball.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
But nigga, sorry, ain't no pressure beautiful?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Of course it's a perfect pass. Like Yeah, but that's
where we are, o Joe.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Everything, everything get charted and everything, I mean, they look,
the teams always charted these stuff. They always kept with
you know, how many rocks you ran, how many times
you won, blah blah, lot of defense did they win,
how many how many routes did he cover, how many
paths did he break up pick blah blah blah. At
the time, you get me, The teams have always kept
stuff like this, that's how they evaluated. Yeah, but we
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don't normally have publications Twitter, whoever, did you know whether
it's a YouTube or whomever that charted stuff like this
and keep a tallly of.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It means nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I mean, you're supposed to get up it on the air,
You're supposed to catch it on there, You're supposed to
complete it on there. It's supposed to look perfect. Yeah,
it's not supposed to look chaotic. So look, Chadur knows
what he's up against. He knows he's not a first
three round pick, so there's no assurances that he's going
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to be on the team. He understands that. I'm sure
his dad has told him that. I'm sure his agent
has told you. I don't know if I don't know
if it's it's dad, I don't know if his agent,
who his agent is. But I'm saying I'm sure they
told him, made him aware. There are no guarantees. The
Browns probably made well. The matter of fact, where you
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was drafted less, you know there are no guarantees. Come
on now.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
But if your door is what he believes he is,
I don't see the problem.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So Joe Flacco, Dylan Gabers, Shador Sanders, Kenny Pickett all
fighting for I believe two spots, two spots and the
other guy's gonna probably beat uh practice squad, practice squad.
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I mean you guys, I mean, like you said, don't
tell me ish, I need to see some preseects now.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Probably Joe black Old probably is gonna play in the preseason,
So that means Dylan Gabris, Shador and Penny Kenny Pickett's
gonna get all the snaps and.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
In preas all of them all right, I mean, listen,
Flaco might get a series if that.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, if that.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I get, I agree, I agree, I agree. But these
other guys, oh, y'all play it and playing.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Lots a lot, a lot despite it not even start
to his career.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Jess quarterback Justin Fields, believe he's on the cuspop of
a breakout season. He thinks it's the right team, the
right time, in the right team, I think I can
be great. That's been the goal of my whole life,
my whole career. I think this guy's the limit for
this team, for this offense. But we have a long
way to go. Our offense and defense are new, so
guys are really tuned in, locked in, trying to get
everything down. But I think once we do, I think
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the sky's the lim it. I mean, we have all
the guys we need, We have all the talent, so
it's really just just going to come down to discipline
and execution.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
And listen, everybody has all the talent. It always is
always come down to discipline, execution, but also come down
to the coaches. You know, it's nothing but a chess match.
I always say this all the time when it comes
to playing the game of football, understanding your strengths and
understanding your players' weaknesses, putting your players in the right
places to make the plays, understanding who they're playing against,
understanding what their weaknesses are, and putting them in the
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best position to make plays against said individual players that
also get paid millions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
That's what it all comes down to.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Having an office of coordinator or a deepensive coordinator that doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
A an ego.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
An ego, Well, this is my system, and I want
you to run my system my way, despite whether you
can do what I like called will or not. That's
what There's so many different barriers that come into it.
Justin field is supposed to feel that way. He's fold
to feel like this is the great system of great scheme,
break whatever it is. But everybody looks good and shorts
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and shirts we all do. Now it's a different game.
When we talk we talked about the Jets. We know
what happened when the goddamn lights come on Sunday at
one o'clock. There's always been a different story. Now for
for Justin, for his sake, this is to make a
break break a year for him. You know, you have
you have a stellar you have a phenomenal suit. This year,
you get you a nice big paid eight boy. What
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you what you are deserving of? You know now you're
getting a fair shot. You getting another fair shot. You
know obvious Chicago didn't go so well. Now you have
a first start. Most of the time, sometimes quarterbacks aren't
given a second chance.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I keep.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Now, you got to make the most of it. Get
that ball, the number five. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
That might be five. You're gonna be all right, you definitely, Uh,
I agree with you, with you.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I think this is a year that he's gonna have
to You know, Chicago, He's like, look, man, what he
had offensive coordinator didn't do much. They didn't put him
in the right situation. That didn't protect him well enough,
X Y and Z goes to Pittsburgh. I thought he
played well. I was surprised with Mike Tomlin made the
move and asserted Russ after Russ had missed it the
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games with the calf injury.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
But hey, it is what itils.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I thought he had some nice talent arounding Pickens, he
had some guys that can make players around. In Firemoth,
they ran the ball okay with Nigie Harrison, Jalen Warren.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But now new coach.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
What seems to be a competent offensive coordinator, decent offensive
line and weapons arounding. They've tried to remove the hedge,
which is the excuse that you would have if things
don't go well.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I'm room for the young man thirteen oho in three years.
Situation matters. Now you can't go to five, ten sixty
situations and say, well, that situation wasn't right for me,
that situation wasn't right for me, that situation wasn't right
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for me, O Joe. At some point in time, you
got to accept a responsibility.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And you gotta look at that mirror. Mica Jackson said,
you gotta start with the man in the mirror.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, I do believe ag how the great group of guys,
offensive coordinator, quarterback, coach surrounding them with the talent. Now
it's just time for m letus. God give an ability
to go out there and take over. Don't overthink it. Prepare,
be prepped, be ready to go. Know whathere you're supposed
to go, Know where you're supposed to go with the ball,
Go with it. Yeah, don't be afraid to use your legs.
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You know sometimes people like, well, I'm gonna shore, I
can throw the ball. Okay, what makes what makes these
guys dangerous is their legs. Nobody's not fearing their arm.
I don't want you to run.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I don't want you to escape because I know, I
know what type of speed you got. I know you
can hit your head on the gold post. So he's
played well last last twelve Stars. He has an eight
and foarter record on chow seventeen passing in Russian touchdowns,
only seven interceptions.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Like I said, we talked about it last year. I
was surprised that they made.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
The change because I thought he played well, could have
won the game and uh and ended they lost that game.
Fields will make us the debut with the Jets September seventh,
against the Steelers team that traded for him last year,
then benched him in favor of Russell Wilson after four
and to start, Fields offered no insight intok the matchup,
Oh that's what was late week won.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Really it really wasn't a thought any extra motivation, no.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
No playball, just playball, No motivation needed. Hey, it's already
be there regardless. I don't care what happened in the past.
I don't care what happened in the past.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Boy, they wanted him back, but he's like, nah, after
the way y'all did me. Had I been playing back,
had I been zero and six, had I been two
and four, I can understand you going in a different direction.
But that was two games over five hundred and I
don't think. Maybe I'm trying to think, what was that
game that Russ came back and they won.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I would have to I would have to look back.
I can't remember off the top of my head. But
I don't think the Steelers won any games that they
probably wouldn't have won if Russ. If Russ wasn't in there.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, but you also have to understand Mike Tomlin gave
his word to Russ. Mike Tomlin gave his word to Russ,
so he had to stick by his word because I
think everyone, including Russe Wilson, would have been looking at
Tomlin funny after already voicing who was going to be
the starter publicly to everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So whenever Russ was helped, situations changed. Jojo, you can't
go back on that. I can't go back on that.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Ooe hope everybody gonna be looking at him funny.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
That's why he looked at me funny. I mean, I
like look at it. Oh yo. I like sweets.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But if the doctor told me I got died beaties,
I can't be eating no sweets, right, he said, shall
you got hot blood pressure? I can't be eating no pork.
I got a change thing. You go six and oh
you five and one? You four and two?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Your like, Hey, Russ, I understand, I know what I said.
But so if that's the case, when they lost four
games in the land of the season, why did they
go back to why did they go back to justin fields?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Then? Because you did him like that?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Hey, all the coature, all the man has is his
word on man.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That don't work, and that's not working. In coaching, you know,
you go with the hot land whoa, whoa. Oh okay, okay,
that's because here this is why I look.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Oh wait a minute, wait wait, wait, wait a minute.
The hand stayed hot now for what three four games
in a row? Now the hand that the hand stayed.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Hot justin field for four and two O YOA, you
didn't hear what I just said. You made the change.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
The hand still stayed hot, yes, three or four games
in a row. And then you shouldn't change because my
hand was hot. You tried to pour water on me
to cool my hand off. Yeah, I got cool standing
on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
All I know is Mike Tomlin had to stay and
kept promised his word that he said before the season started.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Russ was our starter.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
So whenever he was healthy, he would get back in
the lineup as said started like I said before the
season started.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's all right, Love, That's one thing I can honestly
say I loved about Mike. But Mike Shanahan, Mike Shannon said,
look here, you might be the starter, right, but if
that guy comes in and he's playing better than you,
then when you were starting, he the starter.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Hey, Hey, who's the who the who's a quarterback that
was in Denver?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Right, had the big ass, the big old beard talking
about the beer was huge, sticking up out to helmet
like Fitzpatrick. It wasn't Fitzpatrick, but hey, it was kyl Looyd.
H he could slank that ball man had the big
old lumberjack beard.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I think I think he.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Was throwing to the random Lloyd. Randon Lloyd.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That's who had some hands. People talking about everybody else
they be mentioning got hands. People don't realize how good
are hands that joker had.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
When b Lloyd was catching all a achromatic catches, boy.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Go back, I mean before the technology and the tactified
gloves he was doing that with.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
There was no tax, Yeah there was, show, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Show was go back and look at go back and
look at Brandon Lloyd when he was with the Broncos
and with the forty nine ers. Forty nine ers. Yeah,
be lord was nice with it. Tyreek Hill spoke with
local media for the first time since suggesting a trade
request after Miami's season ending loss to the Jets in January,
making himself unavailable in the second half.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
He walked. He walked.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
His comments back this week and publicly apologized for them.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It was tough, man. Obviously emotions were high there.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But at the end of the day, I'm just looking
to move forward from that, hoping that I can prove
myself and prove to my teammates that I'm still one
of them ones. Man who's chasing two k receiving, still
one of those ones chasing the playoff dreams and all
that great stuff. I've got to prove to myself. I
got to show up different. The mindset's got to be different,
he said. He attended church and therapy over the past month,
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and he says it's helped him reflect on his decision making,
namely why it's been so difficult for him to stay
out of the headlines that aren't football related.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
It's tough.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
The only thing I'm gonna say, man, is money is
crazy thing for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I love what he said, and I said this old Joe,
you can't take yourself out of that game. He got
that captaincy on his shirt, That Joe that carry a
little that carry a lot of weight. Yeah, that carries
a lot of weight.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And for him and they're asking him, you hurt if
he was hurt. Oh cho, I ain't got no problem
with it. I don't, I don't me. I'm gonna try
to cut gutting up as long as I possibly can.
And when I can't go, I can't go. But to
just take yourself out of the game because you're not
catching any passes or the ball not being thrown to you.
You and some of the stuff that he said. Look,
and when emotional high, I get it. When emotion is high,
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logic is move.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And sometimes we let our emotions get the best of us,
and we say things and we do things that we
wish we can take back. But I love I love
a man that's reflective. I love a man that can
stand there and says, you know, I was wrong, And
I'm gonna try to be I'm not only gonna try
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to be a better football player, but I'm gonna try
to be a better man.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And he's right. Money money, boy, Look here, money changes.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Not only can money change you, it can change the
way people see you, the way they knew you, how
they treat you, how they behave around you.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So all we figures because I've always liked Tyree. Here's
a guy, o Jo that had immense speeding. We know
the man's named Cheetah, so we know he can run.
But O Joe, he taught himself to run routes. He
wasn't just a gadget guy. They run into him, some
jet sweeps, you know, the punt kickoff return, O Joe,
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they just did. But he all of a sudden, he
started running the smoke. He can run the speed, I
can run the comeback. He can run the dig. He
can run the over, he can run the slant. Now,
a guy with that kind of speed that can close
that cushion.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
He turned himself into a Hall of Famer. Yeah, yep,
he gonna be all right. Yes, he has to be.
He has to be. He needs to be in there.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
He understands, ojo. He you want to knew you want
a contract extension. Well, I got to pay you on
what I believe you can be moving forward, not on
what you've done. I know about that eighteen hundred nineteen
hundre yard season that you had, unbelievable. You were sensational.
I paid you for that made you want the highest
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payd receivers in football. You were the highest paid until
all these other guys started getting that contract. Now if
I were to extend you or give you a new contract,
O Joe, I got to base it on what do
I think Tyreek Hill? Am I gonna be able to
count on Tyreek Hill the next two three years? Because
that's what I gotta pay, That's what I'm paying for.
And you see whether the wide receiver money is going ohoey,
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that thing is north to thirty five chases in the forties.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, listen, But I love a man that can look
and say, you know, hey, it's me. Yeah, even right.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
We all get big up calls. We all get calls
in different forms. Sometimes some of them. Sometimes God, they
gotta shake you real hard.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, you get your attention. He's all nothing to see.
But no, when you shake your real heart, he wants
your undivided attention. Sometimes he'll do something you just falled like, okay,
I heard you.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, hey, he right, be right.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Because it's something that some things that can happen that
can sit you down real quick. Yes, and it hit home.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
It hit home.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
He's focused going to therapy, and the fact that he
has to prove himself, the fact that he even feels
he has to prove himself is to me and well,
you know who you are, We know what you can do.
We know why your numbers weren't where they were last year.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
But anyway, but having to prove yourself again if your
quarterback can stay up right and healthy.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But you know, if you think about that nineteen yard season,
But think.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
About it, how did the season start controversy and it
ended the same way. You see, remember how we say,
oh Joe, you limp it to the season, you limp
out of it.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, you're right, you come in, you come in the
bull jive bullgyvee, follow you out of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So, like I said, he learned, he going through a
lot of you a lot of stuff going off, going
on off the field. Uh that's not football related. Maybe
maybe that was weighing on his mind. Oh tell people
don't understand man. Sometimes boy, you have stuff going on
and you have to be able to come partmentalize. And
some people come mindalize better than others. Some people can
stay tonal focus. When I'm on this football field, the
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most important thing is this football me catching it me
and accepted in me sac of the quarterback or whatever
running the football, whatever game can it be. And then
once I'm off this football field, I got to deal
with day to day of life. Yeah, family, friends, loved ones, kids,
and you know what, that's that's why I like, that's
why I loved when I was playing. Obviously I didn't
have I didn't have many issues off the field until
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obviously on the back end. But I'm saying during that
during that early time, that first decade, you know, I
ain't had no issues.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
You did not what I was able to do.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
If I did have anything, linger.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Which was very, very very small, I.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Knew once I walked in that locker room, Oh man,
that's that's my that's my safe space, that's my heaven.
Going to practice, going to meetings, I ain't had to
worry about nothing. So life, everything was at ease. Once
I entered that stadium, once I touched that gras, once
I could smell that grass, I was at peace.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Now I understood.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Once we got out of meetings and we watched field
after practice.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Okay, now back to reality. Now back of cares. Oh yo,
they like, I'm glad it's him not me. I don't care.
He got him right.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
So at the end of the day, a lot of
the problems if they're not family oriented. I mean, your
family they're really only want they care.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Bro, you're playing football, you making thirty million dollars a year,
you make it X amount of money. I wish I
made that kind of money because the people think money
solves everything.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
It don't.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
It don't.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Because I promise you there's there's disappointment, there's heartbreak that
even no amount of money can absolve you from.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That can shield you from. And so you know, look,
Tyrek is human and all humans have emotions.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Now, it takes different stimuli to trigger emotions, but the
right stimulus will trimble that will elicit sadness, disappointment, joy, heartbreak,
just the way that we are. We are who we are,
even the toughest. So I hope I really do because
(31:45):
I thought. I mean, look, he I still believe he's
a Hall of Famer, but I want to see him
bounce back because I think he's one of the most
tality receivers that ever played a game.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
He's special. Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I'm glad he's not six foot tall. Can you imagine
him six foot tall with that speed, with his mindset?
Speaker 4 (32:04):
O yo, if he was six years tall, he wouldn't
be able to do the things he's doing now.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
At the height he is. But hell, look at Randy Balls.
God bade Randy balls fixed ball. He gave him that speed.
Randy Moss couldn't run routes he ran. He got one
hundred fifty three touchdowns. He did something I don't know what.
He did a lot.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, he caught a lot of junk balls and he
caught a lot of gold balls. But no, I mean,
Randy wuldn't try to run those speed outs. He wouldn't
try to. I mean he run the hook, he run
the smoke route. Catching me with a guy like Randy
put the ball in his hands. All of us put
the ball in his hands. I'm gonna make you make
a decision. How you gonna get him on the ground,
(32:43):
because I got in the ball?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Hey and man, every time, every time I think about
seeing Randy aung the dB off normally you know, the
dB seven yards three step, read the quarterback after three step,
get your ass back on the receiver. Mm hmm, Man, Randy,
the dude is seven yards Olf, Randy take three steps,
(33:08):
he don't close the cushion and then threw his hand up.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Hey, the dB ceiling is damn backpedal. Man, What the.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Fuck you do? Hey? And then you know the fame
was coming on the goal line inside the five, you
know the.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Famous you could do, Yeah, none, you could do.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
But uh but Ty could get it figured out. Yeah,
he get it figured out. Patrick Mahomes said, Travis Kelsey
doesn't seem like the player. Seemed like a player on
his last ride. If it's his last ride, you would
never know. The way he's talking about football, the way
(33:48):
he's talking about working, trying to be even better than
he was last year, it doesn't seem like a guy
that's on his last ride or he's tired of the job.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
He's in here, he's working. I know his body feels good.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
He feels better than even last year before going into
last season, just.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Because he's motivated to have an even better year.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, I think, look, you know, new relationship, Oh show
new relationship.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You know he's out. You know she imna support my lady.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And I think the thing I think he deep down
and so he knows he didn't put that He didn't
put the time in that he needed to. He didn't
put that work in, putting that work in. Now look
like it. I guess he looks like his body has changed.
He's lost some weight.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Uh me, you have to realize they're comparing Traft to
a younger Traft.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
They're not comparing him to Laporter and all these other guys.
They compared him to his younger self and what they
saw him do. We used to him being the premiure
tight end and all the football and no question who best?
Travis Kelsey. Yeah, now you got other guys. Now you
got Laporta said, hey, what about me? You got McBride
and Arizona say what about me? You got Bowers in Oakland?
(35:02):
What about me? I mean, excuse me, Las Vegas? What
about me? Kittle? So you got other guys. That's like,
hold on, it's not a Fourgonne conclusion anymore. Now, Traves, Hey,
I want to stay attached to that. That that best
tidy end conversation, and uh it'll humble you man.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, yeah, you got put that work in, but also
put is one thing. Putting in the work.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
But also he ain't gonna need help as well.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I think Rahid writes, being back, you saw a uh Worthy,
You see him get better and better and better. Now
if Trave comes back eighty five percent of what he was,
byty percent of what he was at his absolute best.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
You got Hollywood brown back.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
The question is, O, yoe, that's nice offensive offensive the
offensive line.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
What they're gonna look like? Which office is like a
look like?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
You know, they drafted off asive tackle out of Ohio
State in the first round to be a left tackle. Uh,
you got Trey Smith, you got Humphrey. You got one
of the best centers in football, one of the best
right guards in football. But they were lacking at the
other position. And the rareed it raared his head in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It did.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
But uh, I'm glad Travis is putting that time in.
You know, But at this point in time, Oh Joe,
you know, you don't, You don't. I mean sometimes you know.
But at the end of the day, you take it
one year at a time. Now, he done got past ten,
this one at a time. It ain't no more. Man,
that got me five more. I'm taking one at a time.
If I get five, thank you Jesus. If I get one,
(36:54):
if I get two, hell I got two more of
them than the original number that I set for myself.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
At that point, you just pray for you, pray you
get in the extra years.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, because I mean I wanted five. I was like
man if I can just get if I can get
me one. Once I got the one, I was like,
man if I get the five on sho five years.
Once I got the five, I was like a ten
to the gold. I gotta get ten. Let me get
the ten. Yeah, once I got a ten, okay, let
me try to get lever. Let me try to get twelve.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
I'm trying to steal the year after year.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, I showed one to steal me one. I don't
think I was able to steal one, but I was
gonna steal me one. I don't know if it's gonna
be fifteen to sixteen, but I was gonna steal one.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Year. Like damn, Sharp show don't look the same. I'm
not but them jacks to.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Say, I don't don't. Sep can still a run, but
y'all just can't get over like you were. Searp ain't
got the wigged like you was had. Julio Jones says
he's not rewatched his Super Bowl fifty one loss to
the Patriots. I had four opportunities the whole game. That's insane,
that's ridiculous. Four targets the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Also, Julio got to understand who you plan. What does
Bill Belichick do best? Take away your team's best officer weapon.
It's what he's knowing. That's what he always he's always
has done regards to you line up, regards to you
line up. The defensive play call is that is made
based on you line up. So he gonna boom number one,
he taking that out.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yep, take you out.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
So I mean Julio, I mean sure Julio understands that now.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
And anybody that's gonna play it against the Bill Belichick
defense understands that as well. Hell, when I knew I
was playing against the Patriots, I didn't get I didn't
get my hopes up.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Curse. I already knew what time was, already.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Knew who's just gonna eat whoever the third receiver was,
they're gonna eat.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
He just understand that going to those games.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
I just didn't get when they got that lead, why
they wouldn't run the football. But people say, well, you
do what you did when you got what got you there.
But you gotta be smart. You gotta be smart, oh Joe, Yeah,
and then and and and and and and Kyle would smart.
And it falls on DQ two because he's the head
coach all right, run it, hey, don't be afraid to
(39:10):
run it here, just to keep to keep throwing the ball,
stopping the clock.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Why that? Yeah, they're not getting over that.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
And bluss Rewatching it does not change the outcome.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
You probably don't want to You probably don't want to
relive that. Well, no, I want to relive that. Don't
want to rehash it. Then you're watching it. You only
have four targets. I mean, there's really nothing to see.
You had a great sideline though, phenomenal catch. I'm sure
you've seen every play over and over and over. But
losing a game like that, being up twenty three and
still losing, I mean, nobody wants to rehash or read it.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Because oh yoe.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
But at that point where Julio made that spectacular catch,
then field goal range, Yeah, the ball?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Why would you throw it? Why run the ball? Kick
the field goal? Walk it off? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Hey, why did Russell Wilson not change the play? Call
to god damn, run play and run. I'm I'm I'm
betting on Marshawn Lincon. Okay, they stopped him the first time.
I'm betting make him stop him again, make him stop
him again. I'm betting you're you're gonna have to listen.
(40:33):
You're gonna have to show me for sure. I ain't
putting the ball.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
And if I didn't get him in, I don't deserve
to win the ball game.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
But if you if you go back and think about it, though, Joe,
they emper the backfield so so Marshwan is not even
a threat to run the football. Yeah, at least you
got to have him back there so he's a threat.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
And give him something to think about.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Coach Brian Schottenheimer said they are making changes to the cadence.
Sounds like there will be no more here we go.
There it went, they changed it. Hey, that was dope, man.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
But outside of the defense being able to time it,
I mean that would be the only oh man, uh no,
here we go, and I think that's that would be
the only no.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Just say said hut. Everybody trying to try to do
some things you just get. It's like you know what
everybody trying to get. Everybody trying to get, like a
recording contract or a new recording contract. Singing the national anthem.
It's the national Anantha sing it and sit your bass,
sit you ass down. Everybody want to go up there
(41:55):
and try to sing, but make it draw it out
two or three two minutes, three minutes. Come on, if
you're saying that. For the most part, if you say
a national anthem, you probably already got a contract, especially
if it's a big, a big, you know, a big event,
you know, super Bowl, All Star Game, World Series and playoffs.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Y'all, y'alla, y'alla. Come on that. Everybody tried to dread
dress it up.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Uh. The the Cadence Blue nineteen Blue nineteen said, hut.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Or you are audible? Uh we had a.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Uh Blue fifty nine razor Blue fifty nine Razor, but
they did they't do it too much.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah. I couldn't even need it. Hey, I couldn't even
hit it, damn king. I just watched the ball.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
I had to hear ka because there sometimes that I
would be a guy and I had to run. I
had to run the adjust ride, I had to run
the seven route right, so I needed I needed it here.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
But for the most part, like when I'm in expecting
without the tight end.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Now, OBUs, you know, they changed the player and I
already knew I was hot, So I'm just I'm seeing
what what they got. Joshing around. Okay, they brought two
to my side. They brought one to my side. TV's
and TV's figure them up. They got to bring two
to make me hot. Hey, they bring something backside that
doesn't that doesn't pack me. But there are sometimes we
(43:20):
go into a game that hey, if you get hey, pete.
They bring they might bring they might only bring one
one side.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
But if they bring the
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Guy backside, just if you see him coming, just just
turn around, except you give him a look.
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