Nightcap Best of Unc & Ocho Clap Backs: Cris Carter Hating, Katt Williams Criticism

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson clap back at some of their biggest critics including: NFL Hall of Famer, Cris Carter, Cam Newton and more!

 

7:55 - Ocho claps back at Cris Carter

17:42 - Uncle claps back at Ravens fans

29:51 - Ocho responds to Cam Newton 

45:00 - Uncle responds to criticism of Katt Williams Interview 

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
O Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
While we'll wait, there's some people that have some words
for you, for me. Chris Carter had some words for
Ojoe last week. He said there were points, Oh yep,
he said there were points in Chad's career that you
had to go out there and tell him what to
do because he couldn't get over to save his life.
He couldn't get open against average guys. Chad Johnson scored
double digit touchdowns one time, and it's eleven years. I

(00:23):
think I scored double digit touchdowns six times. Scored the football.
Is the number one player as the receiver. No, I
was not a burner. I read four to six four
six five. But he can do it every single day,
can do it for four quarters and the consistent at it.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Ojo.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
You know what that gets?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Child?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Please don't.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
I don't. I'm just trying to take out.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I have a question before you even go What the
hell does that matter? What does it matter?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (00:59):
You scored touchdowns? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Cool?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
You want a cookie?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Right? Okay? Have you had a conversation? Have you?

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Have you?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Have you had a conversation with CC?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
No? I don't, ain't, No, I don't need to have
a question.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
So right.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
I heard Also he said, well, he only had double
digit touchdowns one season, so he's not a Hall of Famer.
But does that mean Julio Jones not a Hall of
Famer either? Because Julio Jones only had double d touchdowns
one season?

Speaker 1 (01:28):
You have you have dumb?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
You had dumbn That sounds yeah. Sometimes I listen to
things and.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
And and everyone's situation is different, you know, everyone's situation different.
I mean, so stuff like that, I paid no mind
because everything is predicated off numbers and based on what
they did, based on other people's.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Situations were different.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Obviously where I was, I did the best I could,
but the cards I was dealt, and I did one
hell of a goddamn job.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I don't care about what you did. I don't care
not about your numbers. It don't make it, don't make
me none. Why is my name even being brought up?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's what I was. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I don't know why it was brought up. I don't cause,
like I said, O yo me, I don't really listen
to anybody else's podcast. I got enough thing to try to,
you know, to try to make our podcast better than
what it is, and I got so I'm trying to
get guessed and I'm going with the books like Okay,
who do you think we should get? Blah blah blah.

(02:24):
So I don't really have time to pay attention. But
it just kept popping up, not only on it kept
popping up on Twitter, and then I saw it on
the Internet and I'm like, okay, what brought this about?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I said, did O Choe say something about him? Or what?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
What?

Speaker 6 (02:41):
For?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
One? You know, I don't talk about people.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, we definitely don't talk about people that do what
we do never and you know, I don't talk about nobody,
you know.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
But you know, congratulations and everything he said, Happy, Happy.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
For you Chris Card and your double Diggit touchdowns and
your Hall of Fame and all that other good stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I love you.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
I wish you con continue success and whatever it is
you got going on.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Baby, I know what we're doing over here, though.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
I know, I know, I know, I know where I'm going.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I'm going back. Maybe he wanted you to respond, and.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I did respond. I just said I love him.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
No, but I'm saying I thought, I mean, I think
maybe he wanted you to respond in a different way
and got the row I got first of all. You
got kids, I got kids, I got grand kids. I'm
not finna go look what we did we did.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
He can't go back and score no more touchdowns. You
can't go back and score no more touchdowns. I can't
scoring over touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
We're right here.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Hey, hold on, I'm still scoring touchdowns right now.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh man, Yes you're doing that. No great job, o, man.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I'm still scoring touchdowns in life.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
He said we played.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I don't care about that. I'm scoring double double digit
touchdowns right now.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Sure, come on.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Now, you're not seeing You're not You're not hearing where
I'm coming from.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I hear what you said. I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
But that's my thing is that sometimes we get caught
up and talk about what we used to do.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
What you're doing.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Now, talk to me what you're doing now.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
We were all great at once upon a time in
our own right.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Okay, you know you did what you did. I think
CC played sixteen seasons?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Wait, how many? How many played?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Sixteen?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
How many I played?

Speaker 1 (04:32):
I don't know you played. I think you played level
to twelve?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Did you level how many? Ay? I played eleven? He
played sixteen.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
How many how many yars you got?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Man? Look here, I'm just I'm just asking. I'm just trying.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
I'm trying to get a better understand how many y
alls you got?

Speaker 2 (04:50):
I don't ask ask ask how many yards does the
CC have? But okay, the chance said CC snapped because
he was pissed at Ocho for saying that he could
beat Travis in a one on matchup ten out of
ten times.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Why is he worrying about?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Bro, we just be joking when we say stuff, man,
it ain't that sad.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Oh he knew that. He knew that because I do
the same thing with everybody.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
He just you do you just say?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
As some said, Ojo, can you thought challenge everybody that
come on here?

Speaker 5 (05:23):
You everybody that come on here can get that work?
He hit me and Travis.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Kick below fourteen thousand yards. He had thirteen thousand, eight
hundred and ninety nine yards.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
So he played fifteen season sixteen I think sixteen, and
he got well thirteen thousand.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yards almost fourteen thousand.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Okay, so he plays fifteen sixteen, he only got three
thousand more yards than me and played five more season.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I had eleven.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I guess yeah, Okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
I'm just trying to get a better understanding on why. Okay,
cool anyway, But like I was saying, anybody that come
on this show, uh, I had the utmost confidence in
my ability and being able to do any and everything.
That's something that a lot of people in this world lack.
Even if you feel you can't do it, you have
to fear you can. Because everything starts up here in
the mind. So everybody that comes up here regards to

(06:13):
what's sports, they player, whatever it is that they do,
I feel I can beat them. And if you feel,
if you fear you can beat me doing at what
you do best, whatever it may be, you're gonna have
to show me.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
You're gonna have to show me. Matter of fact, Chris Carter,
I'll lock Chris Carter ass up right now about what
he did.

Speaker 7 (06:34):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
He's sixty. What that means?

Speaker 3 (06:38):
He talking like he still got it? Get out here,
get on the field, line it up. I'll lock your
ass up too.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
We got a pose, That's what we got. So we
breathe it.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
We walk in, We get up out of bed with
God our right mind, blood running warm about bins.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait, a minute, Wait
a minute on. See, this is the thing about it.
One thing about the wide receiver camp, the workshop that
I just had is I'm not just talking. I'm not
just saying what it should looked like. Uncle, I'm not
there with McLees and my shoes on out there running
full speed. I still got it.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
You hit me.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
So it's one thing.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Once you go back in that structuring environment, you know,
with the exit and those, and you have a receiver
coach that actually never played, never really played the game.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
They just know the game based on paper and.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
What it should look like.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah, Like I'm not there running them routs with you.
I'm not only just I'm not telling you what it
should look like. I can actually display it and show you. Boy,
this is this is Picasso.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, I'll say this, love. I've known CC a long time.
His brother and I used to hang to the Super
Bowls and stuff. I would just say this, CC. No,
when the man joke it, it wasn't that serious.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Now, CC, I love you, baby. But putting them clease on,
put them, please on. I'm gonna show you double digit touchdown.
I put these two hands in your chest.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Why you won't catch it?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
But mar Jackson is the MVP of the league. The
numbers don't tell the whole story. Several times the night
he himself to be the Zach Nobody we said this.
No quarterback is asked to carry a load like Lamar Jackson.
He's for the most part, we already know he's the quarterback,
so we know he's there the passing game, but he's

(08:16):
also the engine of the running game. And even though
what he had to night he only had forty five yards,
they only had, I mean, it was I mean, you
look at the old shoe they only had twenty six
carries they had they had twenty six carries for basically
one hundred and two yards, and a lot of that
was a scrabb but you remember he had that long
yard right before the half the ended up getting them

(08:37):
a field goal range.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
And so but yeah, we understand what's asked of Lamar.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
On a on a on a on a weekly basis
very few because no other quarterback, i mean can run
like of the top quarterback obviously justin fields, but justin fields,
you know, that situation is what it is. But of
the top quarterback, the Boroughs, the Mahomes, the Herberts, the
uh that tour, none of them is asked to shoulder

(09:07):
a load.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
The funny thing that I really like what they've done
for Lamar and they can even they can even improve
it more is the supporting cast that they put around
them to take the owners and the load off of
his shoulders on not having the run, which is why
I like the fact that he's now becoming what I
like to consider more of a complete pastor.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
Because you have receivers that can get.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Open, actually get open in one D one situations. You
ain't got to scheme everybody because you ain't be able
to scheme people open all the damn time.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
You guys say, and we're gonna talk about this a
little later with the other team that we talked about the.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Chief.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Listen, did you see all sides today? I'm just asking you.
Did you see all sides offenses to day?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (09:48):
One more question? Did you see a drop ball today?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (09:52):
Oh yeah, yes, okay, okay, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
But a you know the NFL.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Is that all the teams started sending the off side
plays in oh Jo. They've called most more off sides
on opposite wide receivers this year. Then I can recall
I don't remember that many calls in my fourteen year
playing career.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
I don't do you remember, honestly no, And the fact
that it was both to our attention when the Chiefs
had Canarius lining up off sides, not everybody. They opened
the floodgates for it to be called every single time.
And you know what I like to you know, you
know what I like to do, and I can say
it not because I'm not playing no more. I like
to cheat the ball a little bit. I like all

(10:31):
a little bit, just just a tab it because I
know the rest not gonna call it. It's not like
egregious completely off.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Side, right.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I like to get a little head just a little bit,
just a little bit, but maybe maybe my face man.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Can go the ball.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna block it. I'm not gonna
block if you you just get if you his face mask,
he's still the ball, yes, and held up red hood.
You disappointed me thinking rock party if it's good Lamar
Jackson and thinking he's elite in pre man.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
I don't like it, you know, before you even answer that,
before you even asked him. I hate the comparison to quarterbacks.
I hate the comparison quarterbacks for the simple fact everything
is stat based for one rightfully so as you always
tell me, because numbers don't lie. But the skill sets
are complete. The skill sets between Rock Purty and Lamar
Jackson are completely different, completely different.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Oh Joe, Remember when they was having this early on,
when he beat the Cowboys. I was one of the
only analysts that said, Brock Party he was.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
Too.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yes, yes, but here's the thing. They got him next
seet See. They don't want to listen to what I
have to say. They just want to take snippets of
he said this over here, he said that over there.
I never said Rock Party was elite. As a matter
of fact, I was one of the few that.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Said he was an elite.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Second of all, just because someone is playing good, that
make them better. You can have a better year than
a quarterback and not be a better player.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
What it's so hard to understand about that, Oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
There are a lot of people that won MVP during
Michael Jordan tenure.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Does that mean they were better players or they had
a better year? That's okay.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Same thing with Lebron, same thing with Kobe y'all gotta
stop this. See y'all trying to paint this picture.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Now.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
None of y'all jumped and said, Shannon, thanks for supporting Lamar,
because when everybody else was telling him the switch positions
and go play wide receiver, I.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Was the one that said.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I saw the man win the Heisman Trophy throwing the
ball in believe at the quarterback position. I believe he
can do that in the NFL when he was going
for the MVP. I remember his first with his first
playoff game against the US the Chargers. They were still
in San Diego then and they lost and he didn't
play well. I said, the guy's a rookie and he's

(12:54):
not right now able to throw the ball well enough
in order to win. And what did he do? He
came back and from starting to finish, he was the MVP.
Thirty six and six, thirty six touchdown, six interceptions.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I roll with him, but.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
They disregard all that. But see what y'all want, bartle Man,
I'm gonna go ahead and say it. See y'all got
a problem with me. Y'all don't want me to critique
black players as long as I'm critiquing the white players.
Because when I was at Baker Mayfield and Tony Romo
and all those white guys.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Neck y'all did say eight high tea.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
But now, if Lamar Jackson plays good, I got no problem.
If Dak plays good, I got no problem. But I cannot,
in good conscience know the game like I know it,
played it fourteen years and now study.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
It as if I'm a coach. See something that's going on.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I told y'all from day one, the cowboy concerned it
because the red zone offense and what happened when the
defense don't get picked sixes. Oh now, all of a sudden,
man all't's right. But that's not what you said at
the time. You said I was a hater when I
told you from day one about the Chiefs offense, the
skill position, and the offensive line.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Oh shut up.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
And what did I say? Ohjo, remember man if vavedav
Scanty had to hold that ball? I said, Oh, Joe,
you gotta be careful because to see if you base
somebody's offense on one play, look at it at its totality.
Look how many times they dropped the ball. Look how
many times Patrick Mahomes had to run for his life
just to find somebody that was open, or take off
running man, y'all stop this. I ain't got no agenda

(14:27):
again against Lamar. Yes, I played for the Ravens. This
is how it works. I played for the Ravens. I
played my ass off for the Ravens. I was fortunate
enough helped them win a Super Bowl. Now I'm an analyst.
What it's so hard to understand about that?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Just like I.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Critique the Broncos played twelve years from them. I'm not
gonna stop, guys. I don't care what y'all say. How
many times y'all said I hate Lamar. I got an agenda.
I do have an agenda to be the best at
what I do. And none of y'all, nobody that's in
this chat no more football and can break it down

(15:03):
and analyze the game like y'all can. So y'all use
y'all criteria, how y'all creature critique and grave players, and
I'm gonna use mind take off Yoe.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
Well, it's hard to fallow up behind a sermon like that.
It's hard to fall up behind a sermon like that.
But listen, I understand where people are coming from. I
see I'm on both sides of both sides of the coin.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Obviously.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
I think people think more emotion as if they think
more with emotion and being a fan.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Fact though, with.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Emotions and being a fan of obviously the team and
the player, So they want it to be one way.
They want your views to be aligned with theirs, and
when they don't align with theirs, then there's a problem,
or you don't like this person, or you're hating on
this person. But again, you have a job to do.
The criteria in which you judge and critique people is
much different than those who are actually fans of the

(15:54):
player and fans of the team, and people have to understand.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
That, Yes, Marcus hosted Calm Down US Raven Fan, you've
you've been fair with your critique.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Appreciate that, Marcus. I like to think I'm always.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Fair, But I just gotta call it like I see
it is. And I know it's hard to understand. I
was the first one to say about the Eagles. Y'all
didn't want to hear me. Y'all call me a fans,
call me a hater. I say, you don't run the ball.
Jayln Hurst is turning the ball over too much, and
your defense don't get to the quarterback, and you don't
take the wall away.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
So if you give it away and you don't take
it away and.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
You can't possess the ball to keep your defense off
the field, you're gonna be in trouble and you're not
gonna look as powerful.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
And it's boken last year. Last year.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Uh, we're the best team in the NFL, but never
fully helped it. Jk's been gone, Marcus gone, Stately is
part time left tackle, and we still find ways you
have that's because of Harball. That's because the Ravens don't
make excuses. I mean when I went there in two thousand,
you play like a Raven. It doesn't matter who's in
the ball game. You play hard, and that's what That's

(16:58):
what John Harbaugh. I can honest say those guys are
gonna play hard regard I think about the great players
that's come and gone from Jonathan Ogden, Ray Lewis Suggs,
Ed Reid. Doesn't matter, it doesn't matter who's in the lineup.
It's what you have. The uniform that you have on.
You have on that purple and black, Oh you have

(17:18):
on that white and purple. Well, we know who we are,
we know what we represent. The standard is the standard.
You play to a level no matter who's in the game,
no matter who you play, and that's why the Ravens
have been able to find success no matter who's in
the ball game. They don't always win. You're not gonna
win them all. But if you play hard and you

(17:38):
play for the man next to you, you're.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Not gonna have a problem. We gotta let Elcho have
his moment. O Yo City won his moment.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Cam find some shots at Ojo in his sixty second job.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Let's take a listen to what Cam had to say.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Press pause, press pause. Who gives Chad o Chosenko the
right to give Madden rankings?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
He's been doing it for years now.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
I know he's not good at Madden.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Okay, here we go? Is this a way one?

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Has anybody seen Chad ochocinco play Madden?

Speaker 6 (18:25):
I know he's an avid gamer.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
I know he plays soccer. I don't get it, man, listen, man,
he plays FIFA.

Speaker 8 (18:33):
Man.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
I ain't never seen Chad oh to Sinko play.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
So is this is this all?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Don't want to be one like? I don't even want
to play here? Who's played like bro? I'm a big browser.
You know what I'm saying, shout out to Mario.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
See that, folks head like, Bro, you just can't start
and just play me.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
No, I'm looking down at y'all, suckers, I'm looking down.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
You don't just get the right to play the great one?
Are you serious? Do you know what these thumbs will do?
Go to thumb production, Golden thumb production?

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Are you serious?

Speaker 4 (19:01):
I've never seen Chad play in the field for real.
He's not. He's just that analytical.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Guy so highly disrespected.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
That EA hasn't reached out to me to really.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
Give rains because you're in the field for real, for real, Okay,
for real, and we're talking and and trust and believe.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Man, we could put whatever on it.

Speaker 9 (19:29):
Oh y'all, where you're at, bro pick up the phone bay, Hey,
oh flow.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yallers, that ain't nothing but nonsense.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Man. He talk about he in the field, so basically
based on his logic, I can't get radon because I'm
not good at Madden. So let's say I'm great at
football in general when I played it.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
You hear me, y'all hearing one of the best all time.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
That's what that for gives me the credibility to give
ratings Now I don't know nothing about Cam Newton, no
field when it comes no stick work.

Speaker 8 (20:03):
I've been gaming since nineteen eighty.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Four a game.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
And this stick work is the kind of stick work
that Cam don't do it. I ain't know he was
a gamer. I didn't even know he played Madden.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I didn't know.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
So obviously is whoever he think he is on the game.
I don't know about it. I never seen him at
a competition. Now you know about everybody? Yeah, everybody know
I play the game. Everybody know I do that. See Cam,
This this is just the thing with Cam Newton. You
see Cam Newton plays Madden recreational. He plays games in

(20:34):
general for recreational purposes, like our game is.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
A way of life to pay my fucking bills.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
See that's different, Yeah, yeah, big difference.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Almost some other shit. But if he want to play,
and we could put whatever on it. He talking spicy,
we could put whatever you're talking about on it.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Okay, that's what's up and make it light on yourself. Cam,
You looking at each type of problems.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Man, Cam don't want no smoke. Man, Hey, Cam can't
beat me in nothing. Matter of fact, if I was
the backup of Carolina, I would have took.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
The motherfucking job.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Let me ask you, you didn't know. You didn't know
Cam was a gamer. You didn't know Cam was good
at Madden or other video games. I don't know nobody.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I know Cam ain't good at You know who good
at Madden.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
You know who I know about.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
I know about Daz. Brian I know is good at Madden.
I know that you know his his his prowess on
the game.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
And listen, I've heard about it. So I ain't hurting
nothing about Cam.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
I ain't heard him.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Brian know how to play.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Because I remember Cam was challenging Lebron because I got
thank Lebron's having like a top thousand or top five hundred,
top something ranking.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
So I guess you get ranked.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Listen now now you're talking about somebody don't know the
issue about Madden. But I guess you get you get ranked,
you get I mean, you play long enough and you
get good, you get ranked.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Don't yo if that how it works?

Speaker 8 (22:00):
Hey, listen, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Man, the man, listen, the man he talking spicy, right,
He could have picked up the phone to call me.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
He got my number. Matter of fact, I'm from the
block him now.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Blocking?

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Now you like you coming out? Are you coming at
a true game?

Speaker 8 (22:16):
You know?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
I really do you do it for fun? I do
it as a way of life.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
We we we different, We ain't even the same lane.
When we talked about gaming, Man, did Jack you game?

Speaker 9 (22:27):
I messed around a little bit, but I heard Cam
new like that though. I ain't gonna lie to you,
you know who. I really don't like that though. Durren
James like that too.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
Yeah, dirt, Okay, that's another one.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Irwin is Durwin is that boy on them sticks?

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Man?

Speaker 3 (22:40):
I ain't heard noth about no Cam being like that
on those sticks.

Speaker 9 (22:43):
Man, can't Cam just probably man? He wants to rate,
he want to rank them dudes. Man, he's just really
coming at you.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
Man, God, dang, listen, listen, listen, Cam, if you you
want to come over there with with me? Man, hollers pot, Man,
I got it, I got it, I got got you Cam,
come on over there.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
May y'all be Hey, y'all be taking that stuff serious
for real though? Hunh and hey, that's.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
Serious game in that game, hey, Jack Jack, All my
relationships ended behind gaming.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Huh. I can see that.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Hey, I'm serious.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
I'm telling you alf the time you on here.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Okay, you get off the game and get ready to
get suited up exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
One thing about it, Chack. You gotta understand, Jack, you
got to understand. Listen, gaming is forever.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Real talk temporary.

Speaker 8 (23:30):
Game.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Before too, I heard you say.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Hey, your game ain't gonna never wake up one morning
and be like, you know what you're tripping?

Speaker 3 (23:37):
You know, I don't want to do this no more.
The game would never do that.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Always be the same every time, and it always bring
out this happy side of you.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Always been at this happy side of you.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
No matter what. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
I came. I hope you watching. Boy, you got the
right one.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Boy playing with me? Man, stop playing on my top.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Man, you know what I think I'm gonna start playing.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I won't get good to beat the breaks off you, Ojo.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
I get my fifty nine hundred back like that. Then
I told I'm gonna give your money.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Man, I'm gonna give your money.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I can tell you not. Yeah, hey I will. I'm
you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna start gaming.
I'm gonna get good, and I'm gonna stream live when
I beat you like forty two to seven.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Seven and what Madden?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
You can't even come on now you can't, im.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I ain't ever played before, but I would get good.

Speaker 8 (24:35):
You don't know how to work technology, so you definitely.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Hey, can I do voice command? Can I do voice commands?

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Ain't?

Speaker 8 (24:43):
No voice command?

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Were not that we're not that far advanced yet.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I would go. I would go talk to zucker Bird.
I said, looking, man, you got this AI, this metal.
I want to be able to do my gaming. I
want to be able to talk to it. I would would.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
I would get good. Ato, No, I'm.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Not because I I don't have.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
That kind of time. I don't have that kind of time. Hey,
let me ask you. Let me let me ask you
about another thing, d Jack.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
The Steelers run random ball the fourth most last year,
while Aaron Rodgers attempted the second most passes, and Arthur
Smith spoke about marrying the run a heavy offense to
the past happy quarterback. We didn't bring Aaron here to
sign DK for all that money to go run the wishbone,
d Jack. Now that they have you, look, the Steelers
have always had a defense that could get out of

(25:27):
the quarterback. Uh, they kind of slacked off a little
bit of that when they had Ben and ab and
and and Le'Veon. They were more of a pass happy
offense and the defense kind of struggle.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Seemilarly. They gotten back. They got TJ.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Now and they got high Smith, and they got Menca
and they got Porter Junior on one side, so they
got a really nice camp Hayward they got him, so
they got really a really nice defense. Now they got
Aaron Rodgers. They signed DK solid offensive line. I don't
think it's great, but it's okay. Friar mooth. They got
the Calvin Austin the third, They got some decent receivers.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
What is your expects of the Steelers this year? What? What?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
What's the ceiling for the Steelers? Can they win the division?
Can they make a deep run in the playoffs? Can
they get to the super Bowl?

Speaker 9 (26:09):
I mean, obviously, Aaron Rodgers in my eyes, man, he's
I'll put him as a top ten fifteen quarterback of
all time in my in my books, So I think
I think he's a guy. Obviously coming off the injury
last year or was that the year before? Whenever the
was the year before, right, and then obviously last year
really didn't have.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
The success we thought he would have. I think it's
gonna be tough.

Speaker 9 (26:33):
Like you said, the offensive line is really not the
strength of that team, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
And obviously Aaron Rodgers he's older. Now what is he
thirty nine?

Speaker 7 (26:40):
Forty? He's forty years old.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Forty one started the season.

Speaker 9 (26:43):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So I think obviously
he can't be touched. He's not the younger a right,
he can't move like he used to move. So I
just don't see why would you go get rid of
what's now the receiver.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Oh you're talking about, oh pick picking is George Pickens? Yeah, understand,
why would you get rid of George.

Speaker 9 (27:03):
Pickens if you had any hopes that you was gonna
sign the Aaron Rodgers. So for me, I know you
got DK Metcalf over there. I just don't honestly, I'm
gonna be real. So I don't see them winning this
division right now now with my boy L Jack, now,
with my twin L Jack over there in Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
And I ain't gonna lie, man.

Speaker 9 (27:18):
I think I think my boys shador gonna get in
that starting for job over there. I think I think
Cleveland gonna be a little sum this year too. So
in that division, you got Cincinnati, got Burrow, you got
you know, my boy Oho team over there, you got
Jamar Chase, you got T Higgins. I mean, it's some
copp in that division over there. Man, I don't think
it's gonna be that sweet for them dudes to win that.
I can't write that off and say they gonna win
it this year.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Oh, Joe, what you're thinking. They ran the ball the
fourth most last year. Obviously, Rogers wants to throw the football.
He's always had success throwing the football. Obviously, like d
Jack said, not the success that probably he thought he
would have, or everybody had the expectations because he was
supposed to be the missing ingredient for the Jets to
take that next step. Obviously it didn't pan out. They
moved on after two years. What is your expectations for

(28:02):
the Steelers.

Speaker 8 (28:02):
Well, listen, my expectations are for them to compete.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
They're going to compete not only the division, but whatever
their schedule may look like, because they do have Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers is not that Aaron Rodgers of old, but
Aaron Rodgers is better than what you had on your
team before he signed right before Mini camp. He gives
him a chance to compete weekend and week out. As
far as win a division, that's that's not likely. The
division winners will probably be either the Bengals or the Ravens.

(28:27):
I'm gonna be realistic here, based on the record between
between us.

Speaker 8 (28:32):
I'm a piggyback on what Lashawn said.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Two.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
At some point Joe Flacco will probably lose that starting
job to Shadure and his tenure in Cleveland will also start.

Speaker 8 (28:40):
So outside of that, as.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
Many people that may hate Aaron Rodgers for the way
he acts and for all the stuff he does off
the field, some of the things he says on camera
and some of the things he says on TV, he
does give you a chance, and he does give Stealer
fans and that organization hope to compete weekend and week out.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
All right, d Jack, thanks for joining us head coach
of the Delaware State.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
D Jack. Tell people how they can find you on
social media.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
If you got a YouTube page, you got ig, you
got Twitter, Facebook, Let our fans know how they can
find you.

Speaker 9 (29:10):
Yes, sir man, I appreciate it, though, obviously one on
one is my Instagram. Shawn Jackson ten at Twitter. Delaware
State underscore football as well too. We're gonna plub Delaware
State in here.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
Man.

Speaker 9 (29:22):
Everybody need to go out to man support that cause. Man, August,
I mean October thirtieth, Man at the link. Man, come through.
We had Lincoln Financial, got my brother Michael Vig. We're
gonna be first time. Obviously you've seen us a lot catching, throwing, catching, touchdowns.
Now we're going head to head versus sideline, the sideline
in our old stumber grounds. Man, So come out October thirtieth,
Markie calendars. Man, were going at that thing. Man, let's

(29:45):
get it.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yep, that's the Sean Jackson D jack I appreciate that.
Best of luck, man, stop back by when you have
some time. Bro o Jo, I know we've been talking
about this.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
O jo.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Oh what happened my cat Cat William interview? It's still
a viral? Oh yeah, it twenty seven million views.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
What did I tell you it was gonna be at
by the time you come on here Saturday? I said
twenty I said twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
From what what I've been able to deduce, it's the
third most viewed conversation, interview, whatever you want to call it.
I call myself a conversationalist. I have I like to
have conversations. Some people say it's an interview. Thirty second
is the second place, So I'm really I'm really hoping
I get Joe Rogan has too. Joe Rogan, if I'm

(30:31):
not mistaken, has a fifty seven million bill.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Lazar Bill. I think Lessel Lazaar.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
He's a guy that came out about us the US
A new knows about UFOs and he had a thirty
two million view episode.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
With Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Okay, okay, So I definitely think in the first I mean,
but we had twenty seven with three days.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
Yeah, so you're gonna surpass this thirty two.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I definitely believe we're going to surpasses.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
So you're the second most watch.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
The fifty seven with over a four years. So there's
an outside chance you have people gonna go back.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
You might. You might catch that too.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
If you if you on day three, if you on
day three and we had twenty twenty.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
Seven, yeah well you might.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
You might still doing about it's still doing about about
five about five to seven million of views a day.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
Yeah, that's that's the thing with when it comes to
somebody like like like a Cat Williams who is a comedian,
and when you speak, you know, you know, you know us,
you know, we love things that are that are messy
at times, you know, and it creates traction. It creates traction,
and and then the truths or the truths or the
lives behind it. You know, people can can make the

(31:49):
assessments on their own and do their own homework. It gets,
it gets it, It gets everybody churning, It gets it
gets the noise, it gets, it gets to going and
everybody chirping, everybody want to watch And you got every
talking about that interview.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
I mean I have a lot of people that have
reached out, people that don't really that don't really listen
to or subscribe to club or know anything about that,
but they I mean, because it was on every news network,
it was on ET. People are talking about it, and
the basketball locker rooms and the NFL and every circle

(32:25):
people have talked about it. And what's disappointing to me,
but because there are people that that do what you
and I do, that had so much to say and
and it's only because of jealousy, because I guarantee you
if if Kat was on their podcast and did exactly
what he did on my podcast, they would have never
said what they're saying. Oh he let know. That was

(32:49):
the decision that I had to make him a split second,
o Ho. And what I always try to do is
not talk over against they come on. Okay, tell your
tell your story, tell it without me interrupted. And then
if there's a point that I think I need to
add or I need to refrint question, okay, we'll go there.
But in that situation, Ojo, I've got to make a

(33:11):
split second. I know I got card, Okay, I want
to start at this place. But he said, I want
to tell you why I came. You offer a safe place,
a safe space for people to say and to get things. Okay, fine,
and then he went, now I'm teed up the ready

(33:32):
to go in the direction that I think because at
the end of the day, Ojo, even though he went
the direction that he went for thirty minutes, I still
had to have structure. I still had to get the
train back on the track, even though I don't think
he was off the track.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
He wanted to get.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
That office chest now he got that office chest. Okay,
now let's get to where you come from. How did
you come to be? How did you leave Ohio? Why
did you leave Ohio? How did you end up in Florida?
Has a thirteen year old with a rock waller puppy
in the back of an eighteen wheeler? How did that
come about? What was the thought process? When did you
know this was gonna happen? Okay? What made you leave

(34:09):
Florida and go to OKC, Oklahoma? But man, it's just
everybody got something to say. Man, bro that it's like everybody,
but they never said anything. When I let Steve say
what he said, when I said what he say what
he said?

Speaker 1 (34:25):
When I let.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Everybody say what they said, nobody said anything.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah. Now, all of a sudden, because it goes viral.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I guarantee you, Ojoe, if this video had a done
two point seven million views, nobody would have said a damn.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Thing, not at all, not at all.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Because Steve Harvey, go ahead, go ahead, ojo.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
They just upset that. I'm assuming you you got the interview.
I need you got the interview. I don't think there's
a space or a person out there that I think
he would have he would have felt comfortable with where
he would have been as opening, truthful, right with he
was literally open to because when when you're talking to you,
there's a certain level of comfort, there's a certain or

(35:05):
there's a certain energy that you have, you know, obviously
being in locker rooms, being.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Able to to to talk to people.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
And it's just it provides a certain type of I
don't even know how to explain it.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
It's a comfort level that they have that they're gonna
be able to tell their side of this, They're gonna
be able to tell their story without any judgment from me.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
There we go, There we go.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
At the end of the day, there are very few
people like that, very very few people like that.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
I'm not people. I'm not I'm not here to judge.
I've asked you to. I mean, there have been times
that people have reached out to me to come home.
But most of the time I reach out and I'm asking,
you know, if you're free, you know, hey, get back
to me. Sometimes I have to go through a manager.
Sometimes they have to go through a publicist. Sometimes I
deal directly with the individual, doesn't matter, it's okay, and
then I or I'll pass it off to CJ. And

(35:53):
then CJ's like, you know, he and I huddle up
and says, okay, what day works best for you? These
are the times he came in. You know, I'm like, say, Joky,
did he give your time? What's his time limit? Sometimes
they say, hey, I got as much time as you need.
Sometimes they say I only got an hour, I only
got seventy five minutes, I only got ninety minutes. Normally,
I said, I need at least I need at least

(36:15):
seventy five minutes.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
That's normally what I got.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I said, normally needed at least seventy five minutes, CEJ,
Is there anything that they say that.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
We can't ask? When I got?

Speaker 2 (36:23):
When I had Steve Harvey, I had no intentions of
asking him anything about his wife, asking him nothing about
his daughters. He volunteered that Chenna, why didn't you push
back and say, well, Steve, you said this is about
your first wife. Steve, you did this, this, and this.
Nobody said the damn thing? When when?

Speaker 1 (36:44):
When? When? When? When?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
And he even asked me if cant even asked, what'll
say when when? Cedric said when? I said, said, there
are reports that Kat said that there was a joke
that he told that that you stole from him. Sad said,
I didn't steal no joke. I said, he said, you know,
it don't even sound the same. I said, Okay. Nobody said, Shannon,

(37:10):
you should have pulled out the video and showed him
cat joke and his joke. Nobody said anything right now,
all of a sudden, Cat well, cat hold on, And
I said, it was tough hearing some of the things
he said about people that I've interviewed and have I'm
not saying we boys. If somebody bucket or burns. Yes,

(37:34):
I know Steve, I speak to Steve. I know quake.
I talked the quake all the time. Yes, I have
said number when they came on. I didn't cut anybody off.
When with the time that I've cut somebody off. Now
you want me to cut him off? Man, But he
going in, Okay.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
Hey, that's the point of having that space where you
can tell your truth.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yes, the whole point.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
And I know a guy that he got so much,
he always had something to say. Right now, this is
the same guy. You know what, I ain't gonna even know.
Look here, you're gonna let it go. I'm gonna let
it go because this is what I told you. And
I get on Stephen as this all the time. I say,
stop giving people, stop giving people. Your audience is here,

(38:21):
stop giving it. Your platform bigger than theirs.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Sometimes people sometimes success the only success they get the
taste is taking a bite out of you.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Leave him alone, Leave him alone. I'm doing what I'm.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Doing, obviously, obviously of twenty seven million people. Yeah, thought
enough of this, thought enough like, oh he sitting down
with cat word them out. Maybe they saw a snippet
or something. Man, I need to sit down and watch this.
It's two hours, forty six minutes and five seconds.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
Yeah, will the last time good? Two hours in forty minutes.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Tell me the last time somebody sat down for a
non sporting event two hours, forty six minutes and five
seconds and watched and listened. Remember that's why they say
linear television is dying with the exception of live events, right,

(39:22):
because people's attention span.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Everybody is shot.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Everybody is getting their info the from their smartphone, they're
watching on their phone, they're streaming their phone, ipass, computer, whatever.
Two hours, forty six minutes and five seconds. Think about that.
That's a Cowboy game. That twenty seven million people. There
are some sporting events that don't get watched by twenty
seven million. That's what you're mad about. You're not mad

(39:47):
about it. I didn't cut this man off. You're not mad
about that. Oh, those are your boys, and you let
them talk about your boys. That's not what y'all mad about.
That's not what you're mad about. Oh you not even
a journalist. He could have got so much meat up.
You're not mad about that. You're mad that twenty seven
million people to the right now, my part, my subscribers

(40:08):
on Club Chayshaye jumped up five hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
That's what you're mad about.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
You mad about now all of a sudden, my ig,
I'm over three million, and that.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
That's what you're mad about.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
The potential man, y'all know what's gonna happen now, Man,
somebody might come throw a boat load or that's what
you mad about. But when you were, when you was
biting the apple, I never said anything negative about y'all.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I gave you. I gave you y'all credit.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I never criticize anybody because I look the way I
look at it. O Yo, everything I saw my brother do.
I said, I can do it. You know why because
he lived in the same house I lived in. He
got rained on just like I did. He had to
go outside to the woods to go to the bathroom,
just like I did. So hell if he went the college,
why can't I. If he go to the NFL, why
can't I. So if I see you guys do something,

(40:59):
you do it. You're damn right. I believe I can
do it.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah you wanna?

Speaker 6 (41:03):
You want to tell me who who has something to say?

Speaker 3 (41:05):
So I can snap real quick.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Nah, you ain't got to snap all about your show
because I be rappy.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
But he see Ojo just like everybody, Like I said,
everybody thes and that. I don't know why he go
into this. I'm going there been because they reached out
and said, you know what, we would love to have
your part of our network.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah like that.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I only I can only judge a man through the
experiences that I've had with said man. I can only
judge an individual through the experience that I've experienced, which
said individual, How can I How can I judge Ojo
if I've never been around Ocho man o yo man
oh yo?

Speaker 1 (41:39):
On that fuck stuff that ain't what. That's not my
experience with him. So I'm sorry, that's your experience with him.
O Joe.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
You know what, I get asked a lot, and I
know you get asked this also, Man, what's such and such?
Like I say, I can only tell you what he's
like with me. So for me to be able to
speak to tell you what he's gonna be like with you,
that would be a lot because I don't know. I
can only speak to how he t me and how
he's treated me or how she has treated me. So

(42:06):
but all this notion, y'all need to stop this and
you gonna catch it. You know who I'm talking about? Oh,
they know who I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
Oh they do, Yes, Old let me look at the chat.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
But but but but I but that's what I.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Y I talk about chat.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
Oh Okay, I see it now. I see it now,
I see it now. Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
But that's but that's what it's about. It's about twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
I mean, they make it seem like I've never had
like Steve Harvey is almost at ten million, you almost
at six million, six million?

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Uh DC young flies at four million?

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yeah, said the in the time I mean, I got
not only do the whole episode, but I got breakout
clips that's done a million views, that's done two million views,
that's done three million views. They make it seem like
I was peeling around. Oh my part can have forty
five thousand views. No, I've had an episode. I've had
episodes that do three hundred thousand downloads. Yeah, man, y'all

(43:11):
need and you wonder why, you wonder why you only
have limited success? You think you having success, but think
about how much more success you could have if you
got that envy, that jealousy, and that hate at your heart.
But y'all quick, y'all right, all these little catchy phrases
on your little page and it's you.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
You're right you, All you doing is right in a
memoir to yourself.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Come on, man, come on, you think.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
You think, hey, look at this, I got this out
the mud. I came from the trenches.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Now you got more hate in your heart with all
that you've got, that you've been blessed with so much,
and all you do is hate on the man that
you think better. How about get better, create better content.
I'm gonna tell you this, and I'm gonna leave it alone.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
O Joe.

Speaker 6 (43:56):
Yes, and this man said, you preach, you preaching right now.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Just because you're first to do something, that don't mean
you the best at it. Listen to me again, Chat.
Just because you're first, that doesn't mean you're the best.
So a lot of time people think, well I was first,
that don't mean you the best. So Roger Bannister was
the first man to break the four minute mile, Is
he the best mile of all time?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 6 (44:25):
I like where you're going, so, if.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I'm not mistaken, Jim's Hines was the best with the
first man to run a subtense second one hundred meters?

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Was he the best hundred meetings all the time?

Speaker 5 (44:36):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:36):
So just because you guys were the first or you
what the part of the first to do it? Go ahead,
O Joe, that don't mean you the best at it.
So I'm sorry chat to getting on my on my
soapbox tonight. But sometimes I get frustrated when people when
some people what they try to do, they smile and hey, hey,
I'm all for you, I'm all about this, I'm all

(44:56):
about that. All the while y'all hate me, oh till
you remember a couple of days ago. I think it
was like Saturday or Sunday. I said, I just shot down,
I have an interview.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Yeah, and I.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Said it's gonna be the interview of twenty four. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
I said, he's gonna break the internet. And we were like, well,
who is it that's trying to who is it gonna be?
Is it gonna be Lebron? Is it gonna be President Obama?
I said, but this guy and what he said. I said,
it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna surprise a lot of people.
And the and the interview that I'm talking about is
everybody's talking about it is the Cat Williams. I've been

(45:30):
trying to line this interview up since about the end
of twenty twenty two. Yes, sir, And he's like, I
don't know what I'm gonna be on your side of town,
but I'll keep that.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
I'll keep that in mind.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Wait, had you had this bruin? You had this bruin.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
I've been trying to set it up so all the twitch,
so basically all the twenty I ended up getting this
interview at the fairy tale end of night of twenty three.
So I'm sitting on that man and uh and I'm
and I'm telling CJ. CJ and I was talking. He's like,
what do you think. He's like, it's gonna happen. I
was like, I don't know. I said, all I can
do is reach out. I can ask, and he hit

(46:12):
me back, let's do it. And I remember telling I said, CJ.
Cat Williams, people hit me up and say they want
to do it. He's like, for real. I was like, yeah,
for real. I said, whatever we got, so, whatever we
have playing, I don't like them. I said, let's just
clear it out because I don't know what day. It
might be a Tuesday, it might be a Wednesday, it

(46:33):
might be a Thursday, it might be a Friday. But
clear it out because whenever the guest is available, let's
do it. I did Chris Brown's interview at about eight o'clock,
nine o'clock at night at his place, So there's not
a time that in which if I'm not working at first,
take that I'm not available. So if you want to
do it at midnight, we'll have a team there to

(46:53):
shoot that. Shoot that footage at midnight. So he comes
in so I get that. I try to get there
a little bit before the guests.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
CJ.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Might have we might have some last minute okay, CJ Okay,
I kind of got a feeling, a kind of how
I want to go. I've moved some things around from
the question and the questions that you came up with
and I came up with. But I've moved some of
the stuff around because I think it just feels better.
When I was going over this last night, it just
felt better to go in this sequence. He's like, Okay, hey,
I trust you, you trust me. Just go with your feel.

(47:25):
So I get there, I'm getting miked up and I'm
just talking and he comes in, so he's already on one.
He's and he says, I've been waiting a whole year
right to say my.

Speaker 6 (47:38):
Piece, the right space and platform to say.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
He's yes, yes, yes. Now.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
A lot of people have said, oh, Shannon lifts so
much on the table. Shannon is not a journalist. I've
never said I was a journalist. If you listen in
my intro, I said, I normally would I say the
person that's coming by for a conversation and a drink.
I'm a conversationalist, not an interviewer. It's a different space.

(48:08):
He said, you've allowed other people a very safe place.

Speaker 6 (48:13):
That's why we like coming keyword safe, safe place, safe place.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
I've also said on numerous occasions, if you want sixty minutes,
if you won't dateline, if you want forty eight hours,
I'm not the place for you.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Go to those places and get those type of interviews.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Go to Left to Hop, go to Nora o'donald, go
to I'm not Mike Wallace, rest his soul. I'm not
Ed Bradley rest his soul, or Dan Rada or Walter
Konkake rest their soul, Tom Brocov.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
That's not who I am.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
So if you want those type of interviews, you need
to go to places that have those.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Type of interviews.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
The problem is Cat Williams was my one hundred and
second interview conversation on Club sha Shape. He was the
one hundred and second Nobody said anything, Oh, by Shannon,
you left this on the bone. I've had Magic Johnson,
I've had Steve Harvey, I've had Michael Blaxon, I've had

(49:14):
Cedria Entertainer, I've had a DC Young Fly, I've had
a lot of people. Nobody said anything about pushback and
follow up questions until I got Kat Williams on and
this thing went take off like wildfire. And the people
that's commenting is like, you got two hundred followers. You
can't be a journalist with two hundred followers, because even

(49:37):
people that don't know the journalists, they got at least
four or five thousand. You're upset that he said everything
that he said, and he said it on my platform,
and now it's bringing attention to my platform. Just like
I've had Ricky Smiley on, I've had Steve Harvey. You
didn't say anything. I didn't push back about Steve when
he said things about wearing his marriage. You didn't say

(49:58):
a word. When he spoke about his daughter. You didn't
say a word. I asked Cedric about did he steal
Cat Williams Joe. You didn't say, Shannon, you didn't follow
it up. I've asked. Ricky Smiley volunteered. He said I
didn't ask him. He said that he was originally supposed
to play Money Mike and Kat was supposed to play
Santa Claus. He said that you never said a word

(50:22):
about follow up questions, and I left so much on
the bone. It wasn't until this video, which is almost
at about eleven million views in less than forty eight Yes,
who now mind you?

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Now mind you?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
O Joe, Steve Harvey's done nine million views?

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Who else? DC?

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Young Flies at four million, Ricky Smiley over three million,
Magic Johnson over two million. I mean a lot of
these videos have gone has gone viral and had viral moments.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Nothing is caught fire like this, right right, right.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
This is what's upsetting them because had First of all,
he wasn't gonna go on it because they don't know
what he doesn't want to be. He wants to have
a conversation. He says, You've allowed everybody else to come
up here and save their peace.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
The hardest thing for me, O Jo, as the interviewer
was the way he started. My thing was do I
interrupt him and get this thing back on track or
do I let him go.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
See, when you're interviewing somebody like that, and with the
safe place that you do, call it, the fact that
it's Kat Williams or say the entertainer, any of these polarizing,
iconic figures, you have to let them get their peace
and say what they need to say. That's the whole
point of you have on the platform and him willing
to come on your platform to be able to do

(51:42):
an interview and tell his truth is you got to
let him go.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah, got that.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
You can't steer it, you can't steal this.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
And so he did.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
He did thirty minutes before I ask anything where you're from,
how this your dad, your mom, brother, than sisters.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
But he wanted to get that off his chest. And
people say.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
No, no, he says, the truth doesn't need motivation.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Oh no, that's what he said. He said, the truth
doesn't need motivation.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
And there's God's way, and there's that and if it's
not God, it's the wrong way. So while all you
guys said, well, Shannon, you needed to follow up question
with what I said, I asked no follow up question
when said said he didn't steal the joke. That's not
for me to decide. You decide. You decide who do

(52:33):
you agree with. That's not my decision to make. I
told you when I first started this, my very first
interview was my brother. I said, my job, I'm gonna
try you to try to bring you some of the
biggest celebs, entertainers and athletes that I can possibly bring,
and I'm gonna allow them to have a conversation and
maybe tell you something or share something with you, O Joe,

(52:54):
that they've never said, or they've said it such a
long time ago you don't remember it. But I want
that entertainer, that's the level of that athlete, to share
some things with you and give you a different glimpse
of who or she or who they are, he or she.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
I never said I was a journalist. I never professed
to be a journalist. I'm an entertainer. I have entertainers.
And again, if you won't hard hitting questions, Yeah, sixty
minutes is the platform from your dateline forty eight hours,
go to left the whole go to somebody that done that.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
You gotta understand. Those aren't safe places. Those aren't places
where you can get what you want to say off right.
They dictate, They dictate everything.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Yes, so you go that route. Oh Joe, you make
a great point. So let me ask you this. You
think Kat Williams was going to open up as much
as he did on any other platform.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
If you go back to what's the longest I mean,
when we look at it, what's the longest the longest
interview he had done?

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Kat?

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Now, mind you I haven't seen anything he posted on
his social media page since twenty twenty. Since twenty twenty,
that's four years ago, no post.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Yeah, nobody, nobody else. I mean, the whole point is
it's almost like barbershop talk. Being able to sit down
with you. Listen, I sat down with you and we talked.
You had to kick me. You had to kick me out. Yeah,
you had to kick me out when I did Club
Shake Shade because I was in such a.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Yeah, You're like, we're done.

Speaker 6 (54:30):
Yeah, I mean I was ready to go. Now, Joe,
I had you on.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Ain't nobody saying, well, why aren't you ask him about
that situation that happened in Miami?

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Why did you ask him about this? Ain't nobody said anything?

Speaker 2 (54:44):
You almost said six million with coach Prime, Well, you've
been married this many times. Nobody said a word. It
wasn't until I got Cat William. It wasn't until this
thing took off like wildfire. It's all across the internet, and.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
It is more so about not only the traction, but
it's what he said in the controversy that has stirred up.
So now everybody has questions their truth, their facts, that.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
That ship was awesome. That that sh was awesome. I
enjoyed it.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
I enjoyed it obviously me knowing I know Cedric, I
know Steve. I knew Bernie Mac back you know when,
back when Mac was alive. God damn, I got some
stories about kat. I'm gonna tell you that a lot
of people in the chat watching a lot of stuff
that you probably didn't even know yourself. But we'll get
to that later on when we when we get into it.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
And it's look, I'm not saying we the best of friends,
but I talked to Steve Harvey right right right. I
got Steve Harvey number in my phone. I got Cedric
number in my phone. I got Kevin Hart's number in
my phone. Earthquake and I we talked the most I
can look. I'm friendly, cordial. I've been to Kevin Hart's house,

(55:56):
been through his house, met his wife. Just saw the
other night at another function, show me his cars, had him.
I had conversation with him. Yeah, we're friendly. Earthquake and I.
I met Earthquake about six seven years ago. We've been
cool every since. He caught sometimes earthquakeer just text me brother.
I just called and say I love you. Keep doing
your things. Shine Shine King, Shine Shine black Man, stuff

(56:20):
like that. Hey, I got this thing, I got this,
I got I'm at this comedy. Hey, swing through if
you get a chance to write. So he and I
have a different type of relationship than the other guys.
But do I talk to Steve Harvey? Absolutely? Has he
invited me to his farm in Atlanta? Yes, he invited
me to it. I think it's the Dubai. He has
a golf tournament Thanksgiving. Hey, I want you to come,

(56:43):
so I'll have a great relationship. So it's hard on me.

Speaker 5 (56:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, listen, I understand. I totally understand
where you're coming from. But obviously, when truth is being told,
you just the moderator in between, giving the individual the
space to tell their truth.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
That's it. It's no hard.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
Feeling towards those that you already know, whether you know
him personally or you just know him as associates.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
And I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
And the fact that you give us a space to
be able to tell our truth on your platform. It's
not a bad thing. It's a good thing. And there
was no space for us to be able to do that.
And the fact that now we do have one, and
this is going to be a trickle effect. Not only
did you have Cat Williams, but it's gonna be somebody
else after that. It's gonna be somebody else that, and

(57:30):
it's going to continue to have that effect where you
know what, I have things I need to get off
my chest. What better, what better place to do it
than on clubs? Chase says, platform, Who's not gonna judge you, Nona.
He's gonna ask the questions he needs to ask and
allow you to say what you need to say.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Mess it.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
And the thing was and Cat asked me. He's like, well,
why didn't you ask Why didn't you ask Ricky this?

Speaker 1 (57:53):
I say Cat.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Normally, when people are giving you information that you've never
heard or no one else has ever spoken, you feel
that he was in that situation. He's giving you pertinent information.
I have no reason to believe Richie Smiley is lying
to me, just like when you say something when you're
telling me this, this and this. Now I knew that
he was homeless because I talked to Terry Crews. I've

(58:16):
known teded Crews. Ted Cruz was on the team with
my brother in nineteen when back at ninety one. So
I know T Creuse and he was on the movie.
He was a feeling in training day. His actual ASTU
role was if I'm not mistaken, it was next Friday.
So I have a relationship with him. I have a
relationship with T Creuse, And so for me, that was

(58:40):
the hardest part is to hear things.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
But I say, you know what, I didn't expect.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
You know what, I knew it was a good and
I knew I kind of knew, but I didn't listen.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
Now that's Kat Williams. Now there's certain people that you
can get that gonna move the needle. Now, o Joe people,
you can.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
Get that gonna move the needle and move.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
It, dig ojo. This thing is doing about five hundred
thousand views an hour. I knew it. I thought it.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
I thought we CJ told me it's gonna be bigger
than Steve Harvey. At the time, Steve Harvey was about
eight eight point eight million.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Where was I at?

Speaker 2 (59:16):
You? Are you behind time? You in time of time
at five point eight million?

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Okay, I'm coming back. I'm coming back on clubs. I
got some conversy to talk about.

Speaker 6 (59:26):
Yeah, I'm an out dude, cat fuck.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
This unless you unless you show up but naked.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
I all though, if you can do that, I don't
know if you could beat Cat because Cats are almost
had eleven million. And we're not even forty eight hours in.
And so I remember wrapping the interview. Uh huh, now
mind you, o Joe, I still got twenty to thirty
minutes worth.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Of questions left.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Right, the interview is two hours, forty six minutes and
five seconds. And we didn't cut anything right, and and
I remember finishing up and I look back. CJ's always
sitting behind it, and I remember looking at CJ and
he's shaking his head and he and I'm like what.

(01:00:07):
He's like, Shannon, this is gonna break the internet. I said,
you think so he's likenon. He's like Shannon, yeah, So
Jordan's like, Jordan's shaking his head. He's looking at me,
like everybody the makeup, everybody's looking like. I was like, man, okay,
they say it's gonna is that good? Okay, I'm gonna
take you because when you ed it, Oh Joe, you

(01:00:28):
in it? You don't, I mean, and so bro and
so he it we dry says okay, when we're gonna
say c J. We're gonna drop it in the new Year.
That's why I start. So I say, okay, I'm gonna
tease it. I'm gonna say I'm dropping one on Club
Shay Shape. I promise you it's gonna for someone to

(01:00:49):
be better than this and to be bigger than this.
President Obama's gonna have to come on your come on
your podcast and says I'm running for a third turn.
That's the only thing that's possibly bigger. And he gonna
come on mine and say that. So that's that's that's
that right. Yeah, when we dropped it, we got one
hundred and twenty one thousand people watching it live in

(01:01:13):
the chat.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Oh Jo.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
So I'm like, okay, this thing might do a million,
might do I say it's gonna be And I told
I remember calling CJ. I say it's gonna probably do
two point five, right, o Jo, I wake up this morning,
We're at five point two.

Speaker 6 (01:01:31):
Come on now, I was like, what the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I so, I, oh say, Now I gotta refigure. I say, okay,
it's gonna lose some steam.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
No no, no, no no no no no no no.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
O Jo.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
We probably gotta make it around the block first, gotta
make it around first.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Now I'm thinking this thing might do about next Wednesday.
This thing might do twenty million views. Yeah, most definitely,
it might do twenty million views. There was a lot
going on today s sm SHA Shape Media. We add
an addition under our umbrella, we're going to produce and

(01:02:10):
distribute Humble Baddies, and a lot of speculation is going on.
To tell Ocho about this situation, I didn't know I
was supposed to tell were running a business here, and no,
I did not tell Oho. I didn't feel I didn't
feel I needed to tell Ochoe. We're running a business,
and when you run a business, you do what's in
the best interest of the business, Ocho, not really.

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
In the best interest in business. We are a partnership,
you and I. We start we started Nightcap? If we did, yeah,
if we are partners anything that has to do with
something that was a part of my life, which is
including her, and she leaves my life, that means she's
no longer a part of what I have going on,
that's including Nightcap.

Speaker 7 (01:02:51):
So just because you and I from a.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
Relationship, from a football relationship to a busy relationship, if
she decides to.

Speaker 7 (01:02:58):
Leave me in my life. That means she's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
So you my dog. So that means I didn't say that.
What I remember saying that? Oh I remember I had
that conversation.

Speaker 7 (01:03:08):
Said that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
So you're not even standing on business about what you
said and how.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
You live based on your your your morals and the way.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
You operate, right, I lied a little bit, Oh Joe,
this business were trying to make I'm trying to make money.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Don't you want to make money?

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
Yeah, I want to make money. But listen, all money
ain't good money. All money ain't good money. You that's
that's something that you didn't have to do. As a matter
of fact, if you were going to do something like that,
something like that, you know how I felt about the
situation already.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
She left.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
She left, So if she decided to leave me to
sign her and not even running by me and let
me know something, give me your heads up, give me
give me some type of warning, let me know.

Speaker 7 (01:03:43):
Hey, listen, I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
About Oh Joe, I signed rail and I side railing
her girls to a contract.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
I'm letting you know.

Speaker 7 (01:03:50):
He here you go with the bullshit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Oh Joe, I did hold on, hold on, no, no, no, no, no,
you told me well you leave you done.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
That's one less expense.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
So I figured I was like, well, oh Joe, don't
really care, so let me go ahead and make this happen.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Yeah, I'm saying, you got to understand. You got to
understand where I'm coming from. It's about it's about principle.
You know, you you supported to the dog. I mean,
if you my dog, that you gotta play that different.
You gotta gotta play that different.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
So, all things being equal, how should I have played
this out?

Speaker 7 (01:04:24):
Boom hit my line? Ring ring ring ring ring.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Okay, oh Joe, check this out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
You remember back in Atlanta, Uhrail and I had a conversation.
She had a podcast and she was wondering if I
would be interesting in having my company produce it and
distribute the podcast. She said, she talked to you. She
said it was okay. I said, sure, Rail, let's talk.
Let's reconvene. Uh you and I asked to jump on
a call on Monday, which we did, and we has

(01:04:52):
we discussed it and we finally got everything. You know,
we got them what they needed. We're gonna produce the show,
We're gonna discribute the show, and uh you know they're
gonna do it you a couple of times a week
instead of the one time a week, They're gonna go
twice a week. And she was really excited about this,
she said, you were excited about this. Now once, once
we start down in agreement, I got to be a

(01:05:14):
man of my work. I say, yes, whoa whoa time out,
time out, time out.

Speaker 5 (01:05:19):
When you guys had that talk, when I was excited
about the opportunity for her to join under the media,
you know, doing the thing. Listen, I'm happy for But
once she decides to leave me, when she decides to
leave me, she leaves us.

Speaker 7 (01:05:34):
She leaves anything that has to do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
With night she left you, she was still with she
shep media.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
So see see what I'm talking about, principal alone, If
she leave me, then you should be like, listen, I
can't work with your mother.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
I have already given her the money.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Oh you did?

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:05:54):
How much?

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Was it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
Much money that would I'll tell you what I would get.
Whatever that advance was, I'll give it back to you.
But I just thought, I really don't think that's a
good look, because now you know, we we're in a
rough patch right now, right and we.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Huh we oh you and her, I thought you talking
about you, and I would a rough pastor.

Speaker 7 (01:06:20):
You would have got pack were good, were good?

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Were good?

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
I mean if I was in front of you, we
would have had a tussle today. Though we would have
had a tussle, we.

Speaker 7 (01:06:28):
Would have all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
First of all, I would be here at you because
you already over fifty two hundred dollars and you try
to take more money in my pocket with rail.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Matter of fact, the fact you definitely ain't getting no
money now. You definitely gonna have to get blood that
you ain't running that by me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
You okay, So you said I gotta take it in blood.

Speaker 7 (01:06:45):
That's the only way you're gonna get it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Don't mind if I do. I don't mind it. You so.

Speaker 7 (01:06:53):
Rap Tarlie.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
Make sure y'all go subscribe to Humble Batties podcast.

Speaker 7 (01:07:07):
Thank you your up. We love y'all. Thank y'all for
the support. And he is our number one supporter. He
was the first one to subscribe to Humble Batties. Hey
but listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
People in the chat, I was trolling a little bit
early today.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Listen.

Speaker 7 (01:07:25):
This is all business. I understand business.

Speaker 5 (01:07:27):
It's all about putting your people on, you know, allowing
them to allow them to the flourish and whatever endeavors
that they have.

Speaker 7 (01:07:35):
I was a supporter of this. But this does not
change things. No, this is not change.

Speaker 8 (01:07:43):
Things at home.

Speaker 7 (01:07:45):
The foundation, the forefront still need some.

Speaker 8 (01:07:47):
Work, you know, it still needs some work.

Speaker 7 (01:07:49):
But I am you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
But anyway, I have colleagues, I'm excited for their show.

Speaker 7 (01:07:57):
I'm going to be producing and doing the editing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
That's what we're not gonna allow to do. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
You're welcome, you welcome to join it and be a
guess have you a little guest bottle there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
We are not gonna let you edit, let you produce, because.

Speaker 7 (01:08:14):
I'm here to be a supporter. I'm here to be
a supporter, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
And if at any point she wants to, you know,
reconvene and and uh and reconcile our differences and I
sit down and we'll we'll talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
But that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
I mean, you have been Reel's biggest supporter because you
brought it to us that Rail wanted to be a
part of Shays Media. And when she mentioned it in Atlanta, Uh,
I was like, let's reconvene on Monday. We actually had
this conversation, Uh, you mentioned it to me. Real had
you know she had us doing her thing, and she

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wanted to put it on somebody that have the infrastructure
that can make the thing be what she believes it
can be with her and her partners. And I said, okay,
let's talk to Reil. Real had a conversation with me.
I said, well, let's talk you and I and I
ask you get on the phone on Monday and we'll
have a conversation and if we can see if this
is something that could work.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
But Real, this is a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
I mean, this is not something that you do if
you really wanted to be successful when you found out
o Jo, this takes a lot of work if you want.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
It to be successful.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Now, if you want to do something as a hobby
and says okay, I got a little mike, got a camera,
and I want to do something twenty thirty minutes a day,
that's fine. But if you really want this thing to
be successful and to want it to grow, you have
to devote a certain amount of time to it. And
knowing Real her background, how she turned her real estate
thing into a big deal. She has a show on

(01:09:41):
Netflix that's coming out, I think in a week or two. Oho,
So I know she's going to work to make it possible.
But what I but the thing is, but you see, Ojo,
what you get an opportunity to see? You get an
opportunity to see how people want to tell you apart
real quick, don't they?

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Oh yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
See how they jump you see how they jumped on
that so far it's so quick. Rip you in our partner.
So now you see everybody tell me, oh, I love
night Cap know they don't know, they don't. And hey,
guys all, y'all that got that thing or there might
be trouble brewing in Nightcamp and Unk and Ocho. We
appreciate that pub because there are certain guys out there

(01:10:16):
could y'all spend a lot of time talking about Shannon Shark,
talking about what Shannon doing on the York Fan, what
he's doing here, what O chos doing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
We really appreciate that. Now, how y'all looking, Yeah, how
y'all looking right? Now?

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
It's all love. It's all love. It's all love for
all our competitors out there. You know how I feel
about y'all. Still love you anyway, there's a big plate
and there's enough for all of us.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Seed the seed.

Speaker 7 (01:10:39):
You know, you need to understand that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
And something about before Nightcap, before night Camp, before it
was ever came about, Shannon Sharp was a friend of mine.

Speaker 7 (01:10:46):
Shannon Sharp will always be a friend of mine.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
You know, business, I would never allow bunness some money
to get in the way of that. Never, I've never
been wanting to fall out about stuff like that. There
was an opportunity that presented itself. Obviously, missus and I,
you know, we we we're going through some rough time
right now, you know, you know, but when it comes
to business, when it comes to continue to elevate her
in her career, what she has going on, all for it,

(01:11:09):
even though we might not be seeing eye to eye
right now, you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Know, before Shan before I got here, and and Shaye
Shape Media Club, Sha Shape Nightcap took off. How many
of those people that had podcasts mentioned Shannon Shark.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Before this thing took off? With you and I o Cho?

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
How many of the things how many people mentioned o
Cho and Shannon Shark?

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Right, it seems to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Me that the only content that they can create itself
made is you and I. You and I have a
disagreement by you coming late. You and I disagreement about
the players or something. You disagree, I disagree.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Great, I have a question.

Speaker 7 (01:11:47):
Can I say something?

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Yeah, it's in the chat.

Speaker 5 (01:11:50):
People in the chat, and this is for you and
our team, you know, collectively.

Speaker 7 (01:11:55):
I'm never late. Actually, to damn Beryland.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
That's the problem.

Speaker 7 (01:12:03):
I ain't never late. You know, you just saw you God,
damn Earyland.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
We kind of have a floating time. We kind of
like ware to start between these.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Times, but sometimes oh your float past that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
But this is a great opportunity for real. There's gonna
be more.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
That's gonna be more, uh people that's gonna join Shade
Shape Media. We got meetings with a lot of other people,
uh coming down the pipeline. So in the near future
we're gonna add probably one, two, maybe even three. By June,
we'll have three more up front of the umbrella that
we'll produce, we'll distribute and go ahead, O jump.

Speaker 7 (01:12:39):
I have one more thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
I understand this is business, right, and I'm all for business,
and I'm all for making money, you know, and sometimes
they say all all money and good money the hell
it is in this economy?

Speaker 7 (01:12:50):
Well, if I can get is there anything. Is there
anything we.

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
Can structure in her contract where I can get certain
percent and it's based on a finders feed.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
That's miguele, what railed you to give you out of
her out of their cut.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
That's between you and Rail.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
We're gonna, we're gonna what we're gonna, doral go get
her checked every month. That's all I got for you.
That's between you and Rail. I ain't got nothing to
do with that. No, I don't play.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
The one thing I don't do is I don't play.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Look, I'm not the government now unless we get something
from the government, from an agency that say.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
We need to guarnish rails wages, right, I ain't touched that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
But let's let's let's pretend my name is let's pretend
my my My last name is Sam.

Speaker 7 (01:13:37):
And my first name is Uncle.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
So a guard.

Speaker 5 (01:13:40):
It's a small percentage of a finder's fee and whatever
she gets monthly, and just send it to me if
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
I ain't mess with rail money like that. What Rail said,
come cap? What you say real?

Speaker 7 (01:13:58):
I saw I said that check ain't going to Sharrerisotto
is going to I.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Said that L L C.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Reil Reil Rail as a LLC. So, in other words,
Rail as a business, so Reil Rail will get all
of the money. Rail will then be responsible for the
taxes on said money.

Speaker 7 (01:14:22):
You know, I know how to get around taxes and
all that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
That between you and reil How y'all get right of that.
Ain't got nothing to do with my company. I am
not fit to have them take lock my issue up
if it with you. Hell no, that's between that's between
you and Rail. But we are excited about having the
Humble Baddies podcasts up under the she Sheep media umbrella.
We're very excited about Rail of her team.

Speaker 7 (01:14:47):
Whoa whoa, whoa whoa time out time.

Speaker 5 (01:14:51):
Now, if you're batty, you can't be humble, So we
might have to we might have to change the name.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Now they're saying they baddies, but they humble.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
They don't be out of there, you know, talk about yeah,
I'm a bad be and all that other stuff. Y'all
know what y'all See the way we walk, y'all, see
the way we carry y'all, y'all know what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:15:11):
This one here like the way she the way she
talked to me. You know, at some time, I don't
think God would like that. I don't know, especially now,
especially not because a little different. You know, you know
she sees me and she view me in a different
lens right now, so you know she she got the
mouth to saying sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
You look, you understand what you deal with.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Look, when you deal with a stepper, when you know
that there are other that that she's a looker. That
no matter where you go, whether she's with you or
she's a loone, people are gonna look. Men and women.
You accept that, and you wouldn't want her if they
weren't looking.

Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
I'm a steper two exactly. Hold on, man, let's let's
not forget. Let's not man made me come up at
this shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Hey, oh y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
But when they in a high on the in the
pent house, if it costs the minute has gotta be great, right,
you got marble, you got hardwood, Okay, yeah, if you
a pen house, your accessory piece gotta be up the park.

Speaker 7 (01:16:17):
And you know, you know what they saying, what they say,
you know, they saying they can.

Speaker 5 (01:16:22):
Tell how much money a man got based on what
he got on his hip for sure. Yeah, on his
here on his hill. See I'm talking about like you said,
I'm telling her what I just said a little Fred.

(01:16:44):
You know, you can tell how much money dude got
based on what we got on you know who you
got on your heip.

Speaker 7 (01:16:48):
She's about ain't number of bones on that hip.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
So guys, please go subscribe to Humble Batties YouTube page.
The lincol is pinned at the top of the chat
right now, so again there it is right there you
can congratulations.

Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
Congratulations Reil, Congratulations to the rest of the ladies. Congratulations
Ash and what's what's his name? Alexis? Yeah, Alexis and
Ash congratulations. You know I could be let me be against,
let me be against because I I got something to
get off my chest.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
No banning, all right, Joe, let's get into the game.
But again, congratulations Humble Batties for their their podcast. Reil,
Ash and Uh Alexis. Those three have a podcast that's
gonna be twice a week up under the Chacha Media brand.
We'll produce it, we'll distribute it, but they have they

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have creative control over it. So uh, that's the way
they wanted it. We were glad we could be a part.
Glad we can come to an agreement. So we're very
very excited to have them up under the chachap Media umbrella.