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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, to thank you for Jordan's for
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Bears take down the Green Bay Packers in overtime by
the score of twenty two to six. Caleb Williams through
a dot to DJ Moore. He held on to it
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unbelievable game.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
They get the field goal, they get the field goal,
they get the on sidekick, Romeo Dobs misplays it, they
get the ball, they go down the field and score.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I thought believe Willis played really well. But give the.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Chicago Bears a lot of credit. They won the ball game,
and I think they what They won eleven games. Now
they're eleven and four, look like they're gonna be the
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they got a chance. Still, I believe I have an
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win in overtime by the score of twenty two to sixteen.
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(04:55):
it off. They won the toss. They elected the green
Bay to have the ball. They wanted to see what
they needed. Green Bay was driving down the field, fumbled
a snap and the rest is as they say history.
They had got a There was third and twenty and
the guy grabbed Caleb Williams face mask mask gave hip
life when he really didn't have to do that. But hey,
(05:16):
you're you're grabbing so right when those things happened. But
Caleb Williams nineteen or thirty four two fifty two touchdowns,
He wasn't sacked and he didn't turn the football over.
DeAndre Swift ran the ball thirteen times for fifty eight yards.
College mat mana.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Guy Managuy Monoguy.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Managuy Marnaguy had nine for fifty. KYLEB. Williams ran the
ball three times for thirty yards.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
They had twenty sixth rush one hundred and fifty yards,
with DJ Moore five for ninety seven and a big touchdown,
they win this ball game. They looked like they're gonna
win this division. Who would have based on what they
had last year? Oho, But we thought with Ben Johnson
coming in, you picked them to be one of your
surprise teams, them in the Carolina Panthers to be one
of your surprise teams. And I think they surprised a lot.
(06:06):
I think they're a lot better than people they thought
they would improve. But I don't think anybody thought given
that division, with Green Bay and Detroit stealing that division, OHO,
I don't think anybody had Chicago pick.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
To win that division. Just go to show you what
the coaching staff.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
They brought in some addition, they revamped the offensive line
in center in Dalbn new left guard and Thooney new
right tackle. So they revamped that offensive and they got
Lovelace lovedlyan excuse me. Loveland is the tight end, the
first round draft pick, and he's been phenomenal. So give
the Chicago Bears credit.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Oho.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Jordan Love leaves the game, but Malik Willis did not disappoint.
He played extremely well eleven and twenty one yards, threw
a touchdown pass the Romeo Dobbs, but it was not enough.
Because this was all about the Chicago Bears. When they
needed to get a stop, they got a stop. They've
been but they didn't break. They made them settle for
a field goal. And because Dick kicks or touch down
the games over. Yes, but they made him kick a
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field goal. They go down the field getting field goal range,
kick the field goal, go for the own side.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Romeo Doms misplayed it.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Uh and and given his concussion history, O Joe, I'm
not so sure you want him there with those kind
of collisions because that think they're coming, and they're coming
with bad intentions. And remember that you ain't no help
in the help on the own side.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Now that's a car.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
That is a for real car crash.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, but you also you want you want your players
with your best hands and the ones that you trust
the most in those such important situations like that, you
want them on your hands team.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Also, Josh Jacobs going in for a touchdown, he fumbled
the football. That has been his history. He's had a history.
He's had a propensity to put the ball on the ground.
So Jo as we start getting closer and closer, and
we start in December, and we moved towards January. Yes,
you got to hold onto the football. You cannot turn
it over. The ball is a premium and it cost them.
(08:01):
And guess what, we didn't see him anymore. Yeah, yeah,
we didn't see him anymore. Listen, and Manuel Wilson took
over from there. Yeah, Josh Jacobs, you got to do
a better job of holding on to the football. They know,
they know you'll give it up at some point in time,
and they're gonna keep hammering at it. You're good, back,
but you gotta hold on to the football. Oh, Joe,
what did you like about what you saw from Chicago?
Because Green Bay really controlled this game.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Listen until Yeah, they controlled the game. That really, they
controlled the game in its entirety throughout the game. I really, honestly,
I'm gonna tell you, I thought the Bears are gonna lose.
And going into the fourth quarter, five minutes left into
the fourth quarter, the game is sixteen to six. Yeah,
I'm like, hey, that's a two score game with only
five minutes left on the clock. So many different things
(08:44):
have to go right for the Bears to even have
a chance to come back. And those goddamn things that
needed to go right unk, they went right. Those things
absolutely went right. The center exchanged the mess up between
Malik Willison the center this hey, listen, you can't have
that with the starting center and the backup quarterback. How
many snaps do they get?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Think about it, Ojo, You got to realize Malie Willis
has been in the game, so they had taken a
lot of them.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
They had to think about.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
When Jordan Love went out, right, Malik Willis comes in,
he comes yes, because I didn't see I didn't me
and I want you to go o Joe. I didn't
see Jordan Love until they replayed it where he got
help and to Helvet yes, I did. I didn't see
it in real time. Informed down, I said, why did
Why did they bring Malik Willis right? And then and
then when they went back they showed it. I said, okay,
that's why they were Belie Willison go ahead on to
(09:32):
finish a point.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
But also I think that might have been a problem.
I'm like, you know, you can't you can't blame the weather.
You can't blame the weather. I would I would just
say the fact that even though even though he wasn't
there for a few snaps, once Jordan Love went out,
I mean that center and quarterback exchange and the fact
that they haven't had any type of continuity together that
might have played a part in it. Maybe Malik Willison
closed his hands fast enough. I mean, I don't know.
(09:54):
I don't know, because Jordan Love is tooking a thousand
god damn snaps and it hasn't been one center exchange
where there's been an issue, and all of a sudden,
there's one tonight. And obviously certain things that have to
go right, and that was one of them. They had
to go right in the Bear's favor for them to
even have an opportunity and a chance to win this game,
including the goddamn on sidekick.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
When you fall behind, Ojoe, you have to if as
the behind team, you have to do everything right because
if they messing up Ojo, we how many times we said, oh,
the game was right there for the taken such and
such did did such and such and such did that,
but you didn't take advantage of the opportunity. So if
you're the behind team, from the time you're behind, you
(10:35):
have to do everything right. Now as the team that's
in the lead, you need because all they needed to
look in the momentum because realize you're on the road.
So what happens, Ohoe, Now of a sudden, the crowd
gets back in the game. The game's had the crowd
at Bay for the entirety of the game quiet. Now
all of a sudden, you got seventy thousand fans. They're
into it, and then they stop your own third don't.
(10:59):
I don't like the call. I didn't like to call
him third down. I think you give the ball. I
think you give the ball to a Manuel Wilson and
you go ahead and get the first down.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And I look and.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'm I just hate that offset. I just hate But anyway,
that's not to hear another. But with that being said,
oh Joe, I think Emanuel Wilson, you're giving the ball
both times, and you say, offensive line, we need one yard,
we need one yard. Now we get a new set
of downs. They it didn't happen. I think the Bears,
the Bears Bears give deserves a lot of credit. But
(11:31):
Malik Willis showed me something because when I'm looking at
him in Tennessee, we didn't see this Malie Willis, so
it might be something. In Tennessee, Mike Rable was his coach.
They didn't want him. He looked like a very, very
competent quarterback. He looks like he can be a starter.
I can look around the league and he's better than
some people starters. That be the system, It might be
(11:53):
Green Bay and what they have to offer. But oh Joe,
he looks very competent.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Right now now, And you heard what you just said.
It might be the system, or it might be what
Green Bay has to offer. You gotta look what he
has around him. Look at what he has surrounding him,
Look at the personnel, look at the offensive line, look
at the running back, look at the receiver, the receiving corps.
So you're gonna look like a competent quarterback when you're
playing for a team from top to bottom that understands
how to build a team where you can compete week
(12:18):
in and week out. Of course, I mean, when's the
last Tennessee. When is the last time Tennessee has a
team that's been structurally built from the top to bottom,
you know, to be able to compete week the week.
There's a reason it was picking number one in the
draft last year. There's a reason why. So they're not
gonna look the same. And unless you're a superman. You
can't go to a team that's not structurally built the
right way. You gotta be superman to make them look good,
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if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Bears take control of the NFC North Ojoe, Yeah, eleven
and four, their game behind the Seattle Seahawks that are
twelve and three. But there are two games in front
of the green Bay Packers. Now, well, they're game and
a half because green Bay has a tie. Actually yeah,
well theoretically that's two games because you know, they only
have four in the lost column and you got one
got five in the lost column and one in the
(13:04):
tie column. So there are two games ahead of green
Bay and there three games uh uh, and the win
column ahead of Detroit. We'll see what Detroit does tomorrow.
But if they win one of these last two games,
one of their last two ball games, they're gonna win
the nf They're gonna win the NFC North, and they'll
be the number they have. They'll be the number two seed.
(13:25):
Oh yeah, Can can the Eagles be the two seed?
No yet, I guess they theoretically they could, but yeah,
I'm talking about Chicago because Chicago's gonna win that division.
The question is do they'll do. Do the Eagles own
(13:47):
any tie breakers over them? And like if they went
out and and and the Bears lose one of their
last two ball games, does that give them the Eagles
enough to jump them. That'll be very interesting. But oh yeah,
well yeah, oh so that's that's a mood point. So
all they have to do is win one of their
last two games, and they're the number two seed, but
they're eyeing they're eyeing potentially that number one seed, so
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which is gonna be very very interesting if they have enough,
if theyre on the tiebreakers over Seattle or the Rams.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But we'll see how that turns out.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
But I was very impressed with Chicago because it seemed
like they were meandering, going through the motion, going through
the motion, and then all of a sudden, Caleb Williams.
This is why they selected them number one overall because
he can just make plays.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
He has the ability to make plays.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
On the move. He can fit the ball in the
tight window. He can throw from the pocket, but he
can throw off his back foot, he can throw rolling left,
he can throw rolling right. And they've done a great
job of giving him that. You know, DJ Moore, Roman dudes,
they didn't play the Kills coach, the Lovelin cole Comet.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
They have guys.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yes, Green Bay messed this up in the down there
oho and went when they went for on what was
that fourth down brought the brown blitz. Look like on
the left the right side, like I'm facing to the
right side. It looks like they was gonna pass this off.
If he comes in, I'm gonna take him. You stay outside. Yeah,
but it seemed like the outside guy said, oh damn.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I'm a jumping you got it? Yeah. If any if anything,
they shouldn't. They should have passed it off because the
person the person listen, the person going from out the end.
I mean, once you pass it off, you're already in position,
in position, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So you don't have to worry about you don't have
to worry about anything.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You got everything covered because the guy goes in, he
goes in to a guy that's already inside and out.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And if the guy coming out.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Your position to make that play, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Some of the frustration with somebody like how do how
do we how do we see this? Is why I
can't coach, because if you're supposed to pass it off
on your how we gonna practice that now you you
don't think they practiced that formation against that?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
He absolutely and getting the game and with the pressure.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
That's what say, press pipes?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It does it does?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You know?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Lack of lack of communication, that's all. Lack of communication
in the ball.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I don't need to communicate. We don't rehearse this. What
do I do?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Oh Joe, I don't need to tell you the O Joe,
you got an out rock. We don't really render where
You've been running the out rope the whole the whole
practice all week long.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
O Joe.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You've been hitting ten, roll to twelve. Now all of
a sudden, come to the game. Time to rubber, need
to read the road, you run the in cut?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
What you know?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Just miscommunication, no miscommunication. That's the most important time. That
is the difference between good and great, because the great
in that moment, they don't succumb to the pressure. First quarter,
he probably all over it, but he understands what's at stake,
O Joe.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Now all of a sudden, what was this big all
of a sudden?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Oh yeah, very very tight.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Now he hadn't got now he ate a bag of limbas.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, you're right, and that pression that, especially a situation
like that, that that's what happens.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's look, Green Bay gonna be kicking themselves because we
had him dead the right and we had him out
and we had an opportunity, we had an opportunity to
set ourselves in great, great positions, and we let him
off the hook.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yep. And you can't you know what, you can't blame
the quarterback situation. You can't blame Jordan Love going out,
because Malik Willis came out and they were able to
call exact same plays, run the exact same offense, and
had the exact same efficiency efficiency as if Jordan Love
was still in.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So no, no, no, no, no, this is not This
is not a quarterback where we like yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. This is not a quarterback issue. This is
a situation where you squadned too many opportunities. You fumbled
the ball going in. You're gonna get points out of
that at worst case scenario, Oh Joe, you're gonna get three.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And then you had a situation on third.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Down, I don't know what the play you call, and
you call something and Green and the Bears had it covered.
Elie Willis scrambles and he gets back to their line
of scrimmage, and then on fourth down, the center quarterback
exchange out of don't know if I don't know if
he took it out because wasn't it wasn't they in
the gun?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
He wasn't under center. Wasn't he was in the gun? Yeah,
I forget Yeah, and another can you.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Pull that and see if they were in the gun.
If he's under center, he might have been under centered.
I don't because all I know is that the back
reached down and picked it up and tried to get back,
but there was too much penetration.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
You know. Another thing who deserves credit the Bears kicker.
I can't remember what his last name was, but he
had a fifty four or fifty one, and fifty four
in those conditions. Listen, in those conditions with the wind
blowing like that, and the fact that I was able,
I was, I was watching him, and if the wind
was blowing to the right, he kicked the ball just
to smidge far left so the wind would take do
the rest of the work for him.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
He was under center. Malie Wis was under center. He
was okay.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, And that's the thing we're gonna talk about the
Miami kicker because I thought in that situation on Jo,
I thought they was gonna say, hey, if you get
the first down, go down and let us walk it off.
But because the kicker had missed, and people like, well
you try kicking in that conditions, Oh Joe. The reason
why we go out there and warm up is that
we can take advantage. We want to see what our
(19:07):
cleats are like. We want to see what our gloves
are like. The kickers go out there before us to
see what the elements are.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
They cook it each hash. They start at like twenty
five yards.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
They go left, hash middle, right, hash X, Y, and
z and they back out go ahead oo.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And the funny thing about it as a kicker, and
I can say this somebody, I'm not even joking around.
As a kicker, you see the kicker during the game
when you flip sides of the field, you take the grass,
You take the grass, you hold it up or whatever
you need to do. No, lick your finger. Put your
finger so you can see which way the wind is blowing.
Because the weather in the way, and then in the
(19:43):
direction of which the wind is blowing, it changes. As
the game is going on it changes. So you as
a kicker, you're supposed to know that. I don't understand
what Miami kicker was doing today. I don't notice you
you adjust to the climate. It's it's okay.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And what do kickers and punters do? The kick on
both ends of the field field? You have to, I
mean you kick it on one end there the opposing
team is kicking on one end and then you guys
flip yes. So therefore you know what it's like kicking
in that direction. You know the kicking like in this direction.
So now the elements and you get a field. We
go out there before we want to test our shoes.
(20:19):
Do we need the motive bottom is good knock? Or
do we need studs?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The gloves?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
What type of gloves do you need? All that, that's
why you go out there to feel it. Your quarterbacks
go out there to throw because they need to know
the conditions. So we don't just you know, hey and
and and text it and them kicking. So that's that's
that's what that. We weren't talk about that game a
little a little later, but Caleb Williams walks it off
with DJ Moore back hey throwing off his back foot.
(20:49):
But go back and look at though he is calm.
I mean he throws the ball and puts his hands
in his warmers.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
That's what hey hold on. That just wasn't any throw. No,
that retreated. That was a dot in the in the
bread basket. He didn't have to break stride, he didn't
have to do nothing except put his hands up and
make sure he secured the catch. That was it. That
was a beautiful throw.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
And that was the heck of a catch because the
guy was all over it. He was all over him.
He did a hell he did a hell of a
job holding on to that football. But Kayla Wibbs, that
was a great throw. That was a tremendous win by
the Chicago Bears. They did an unbelievable job of remaining poise,
keeping the coup and and finding a way to win
this ball game. That is the that's coaching. That's coaching,
(21:33):
and that's the belief that we're never out of.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
A ball game. Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
But you know, turnovers, get your beat, o yoe, get
your beat every time. And that was you know, that
was the different really the difference in the ball game
because you took points off the board, and but uh,
Chicago man, Caleb. They hey, they're young team, they're gonna
they're gonna ask some more. They're gonna ask some more peace.
(22:00):
I mean, they got a quarterback. They got a quarterback
that they're gonna have for the.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
So all you got to do or you got.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Like I said, you got the kias, you got loveling
a uh walker cole comment DeAndre Swift. You can run
the ball the number one rushing team, and when you
can run the football, your playoffs should be.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Exemplary, beautiful. It makes everything that much easier. Anytime you
get run, it makes everything else you want to do
offensively easier. You're running the ball, the playbook opens up exponentially.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Absolutely well, Chicago A they might not have a place
to play.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
They might be looking for a venues to play. They
talked about going to.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Gary, and they talking about Gary, Indiana city everywhere. But hey,
all I know you're gonna have wherever you go right now.
You got a great team to go into that building.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And I saw I saw those reports
about them going to Gary, Indiana. Uncle, it ain't nothing
but a thirty minute drive from from down from Chicago,
from downtown.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
You know what, O Joe, It's just that you have
to think about how long you've been at Soldier Field, right,
I mean, you know you're just something about the monsters
of the Midway.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
But hey, teams are moving working you see, Uh, there's
a Kansas City they're thinking about moving out moving there.
You know, these these lawmakers talk about, hey we got
a billion dollars, come on out here go where?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Uh they're trying to move to Missouri? Right? Oh?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
St whoa Kansas city?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Okay, hold on, you know you listen, my geography is
kind of off. Now, how far is Kandasity away from Missouri?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Don't start me to line? Aren't they trying to move?
Aren't they trying to move them out of Missouri to
Kansas City or the other way around? So yeah, they're
moving them out of Missouri to Kansas.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Okay, yeah, uh.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So but you could see Kansas right.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
So look, and the thing is what we're what we're
seeing is that these owners, although they're billionaires, they're trying
to spend as little as possible on the U stadium.
Uh maybe you do you think like, okay, somebody's gonna
give us a sweetheart deal, blah blah blah, because everybody
ain't got money like stan Kronk stan Kronkay, say I'm
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leaving Saint Louis, I'm gonna have a bill. I got
a billion dollars of that scrow. Because it costs money
to move. You have to play the league to move
to relocate. O, Joe.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Absolutely, I understand it. I understand it. You know, economically,
you know, financially, I mean what it does when they
have to move, what owners need to be able to move. Yes,
and Standard is in a different situation than everybody else.
Do you understand do you understand how many franchises staying
owns outside of justin goddamn Rams man. Listen yeah, Arsenal,
(25:02):
Yeah you know what Arsenal? Yeah, yeah, listen. I would
if if, hypothetically speaking as much as I love the
game of soccer, you know who would have been the
first person to play for the Rams and for the
for Arsenal?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Who?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Who?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Okay, yeah, I don't know, Joe.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
It's I've never seen nobody play two sports, and and
that was sports. I mean we see baseball, basketball, baseball, football, football, basketball, football, baseball,
but that cross over there.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I would have I would have been for I would
have been the first one. I would have been. I
would have been a gunner, would have been a ram Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
But see all he does is kick. See Ojo used
to do it with hands. So they're gonna kick that ball,
you're gonna catch it unless he's gonna be a goalie.
But I thought Brandon, as we mentioned Brandon Aubrey, I
watched him in the and and the u f L,
and he he had a leg. He was booming it.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
He'd been doing that, boy, he been doing it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
But the Bears still top of the NFC nor thanks
to a twenty two to sixteen overtime victory over the
Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
The Eagles beat the Commanders by the score of twenty
nine to eighteen. Nick s around and said this team
wasn't trying to run his score up against Washington with
a two point conversion late to give him a seventeen
point lead, but as the play ended, a fight broke
out on the field, resulting in three players being ejected,
line with Tyler Steen and the Commander's defensive end Javon
Kenilong and Kwan Martin. O Joe, did you like the
moves by the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, yeah, damn there. You know what I like about
the Eagles that you know, they were able to do
to they own that they haven't been able to do
all year successfully consistently. They were able to run the ball.
They were able to run the ball. Sae Quan had
twenty one carries, He had a TV he had one
hundred and thirty two yards jenning Hurst through the area,
I mean was he was okay, twenty two for thirty
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two tens for one sixty five, one five. But my
eyes so bad. Damn, my eyes so bad. Oh yeah, yeah,
one eighty five. I mean it was cool. They did
what needed to be done to get the job done today.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
To drop past it too.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Dropped a couple of day, Yeah, Davante dropped a couple
of yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And so his stats probably I don't think they weren't
like huge yardage, but he could have had a couple
more touchdowns to that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
A few more. And you know what, there was really
no threat at no point in the game where the
command is a threat to the Eagles at all. The
Eagles were really able to have their way and do
everything they wanted to do, whether it was through the air,
whether it's through the ground, and I mean it was,
it was, it was. It was a winnable game in
the game they should have won, and they did just that.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
The Eagles need to get their kicking situation resolved. I'm
right here, Elliott, Elliott. Elliott is not automatic like he
once was, Oh Joe. And you know in the playoffs
it comes down it. These games are a one possession
game and lo times it's a field goal.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Is that the different in that possession?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yes? And hey, hey, I'm telling you you got somebody
right here with a fresh leg. You know, I'm good
from seventy. I'm not just good from seventy. I'm good
from seventy consistently. I'm good from sixty to fifty forty
thirty after field goals p A T. I mean, that's
what I do, Sirihanni. If you need someone, if you
need someone like me, if you need some what's up baby,
(28:24):
a vacuum? Who spilled something? Stop eating? Go pick the
pringers up and don't take no more food in that room. Yeah,
go ahead, I mean no, I mean, I mean just
I mean, there's there's no way you can get a
kicker right now, not this time, because anyone that's available
is a reason why they're available.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You well, hey, what do you call him available? I
don't know if they're looking at him. I mean he
had two try outs, justin Tucker.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Oh, I forgot I forgot Tuck.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
You know, hell and you, Hey, you're gonna have to
block You're gonna have to block out the noise. Yeah,
I mean, and you know what comes along. He had
a couple of seat he had a couple of tryouts.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
We'll see, you know, when one of our favorite kicks
is available, young ho Coup.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, when I think, no, I think I think after
your way, after he missed the whole ball, it's gonna
be tough for him to get back.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah you think that. Yeah, Yeah, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
But the Eagles, the Eagles are twenty six first downs.
They uh, they got three first downs. They were only
for they were four to nine. Uh from on third down.
I mean they possessed the ball thirty four minutes, like
you said. Uh and then uh Marcus Marioda looked like
he dislocated a finger or something, and they brought they
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bought Johnson. Then on Yoa, he's been on there's been
thirty two teams in the NFL. He's been on damn
near twenty of them. Yeah, I mean at that point
in time, you know, all there was no chance right
that the commanders were gonna mound anything as far as
the comeback. There's a reason why a guy and I
thought Josh McCown had been on a bunch of teams. Hey,
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he ain't got no room for nobody else's jerseys. He
got all his jerseys on his wall in the basement.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
How many teams that he's been on, ash, he's gotta
been on like thirteen to fourteen.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Oh, Joe, so he's he's in the same boat with God,
damn it, damn who Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh, he's been on way more teams. He doubled, he
done double, Fitzpatrick. Josh McCown has been on a bunch
of teams. He doesn't got he don't pay. He way
past Josh McCown. Okay, he's done been on like thirteen
fourteen teams.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Okay, damn, I'm trying to think. He says I could
have swong.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
He've been We've been on Washington twice, eight total different
teams and how many years only well, he had two
stints with Washington. How many have Josh McCown and Fitzpatrick's
been on Because I know Fitzpatrick's with the Jets, he's
with Buffalo, He's with Miami.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
He think with Cincinnati. I think he's with the.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Texans and everywhere. Physical boy, he'd be dealing that thing.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Boy, just know you ain't going to the playoffs. He's
gonna be fancy, but you ain't going to the playoffs, right.
Josh McCown has been on eleven teams. But he played
like twenty years, didn't he. I think he played like
twenty years, don't Joe. Yeah, he's a he's somewhere. He's
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coaching now. He's a quarterback coach in Minnesota. I just
saw him real recently. I think he's a quarterback coach
in Minnesota. Don't be surprised because remember he got interviewed
for a job. Don't be surprised if he get a job.
I mean, how can you Can you still be the
Chicago Bears if you play it, if you play if
(32:06):
you play in another state mm hmm, if you're in Indiana,
can you still be called the Chicago Bears?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Because it's not that far you you still, you still
and Gary Indian Yeah, that's you know what, that's a
good question. That's hey, listen, that's a great question, even
though it's so close.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Well, I guess they say, well, theoretically the Giants they
don't play in New York.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
They're playing Jersey in Jersey. Yeah, so, and they still
call them the New York Giants. It makes sense. Do
you think they were trying You had a problem with
them going for two? No, you, I don't.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I don't know what the purpose was. I mean, whatever,
play that you I'll save it for a rady day.
I'm damn sure not breaking it out now after I'm
already beating the team by the score up, which we beating.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Them, and probably they just want to try something. They
probably worked on it. They you heard what up?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
What you call them saying? Though he said we see him,
we'll see him in two weeks now, I'm telling you, now,
you're gonna get guys going out there. You hey, oh,
you want to run this score up? Okay, they're gonna
cheap shots here, They're gonna do all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Hey, stop it if you don't like it, stop it.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Uh, it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be a lot
of fights. I mean, you got for you saw the
fight happen when you went for two. Oh yeah, so
you so you.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Know what's coming when you when we go to Philly.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Oh yeah, hold.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
On extra to it now.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
They played, they play again and what two weeks? Oh yeah, Well,
it ain't gonna be no different. It ain't gonna be
no different. You don't have enough horse power. I love
I love the Commanders. You don't have enough horsepower to
compete with the Eagles right now, even even as up
and down and it's inconsistent as they've been all year long.
You don't have enough horsepower.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
They would have to, they would have to just lay down.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Nah, they're not gonna lay down because they got to play,
because they're trying to get You know that. You know
you tried to Obviously you wanted the vision, so you're
gonna get the home playoff ge yeah yah yeah yeah yeah,
but okay, I may have a little sauce to it.
So y'all want to be out here, y'all want to
go for two, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
We got something for that.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Hey, you saw earning
the game.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
How they stole on DJ Moore?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Ah, you noticed that?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, I noticed it.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I had nothing to do with the play.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yeah, I thought you would have missed that.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Nah, hell Na, I saw it. I got something for y'all,
did you say, See what you'll get. That's what y'all
get for trying the.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Cheap shot me. Let me let me send y'all home.
Let me send y'all home the right way.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
But the Eagles, this is the first time in a
long time we were The last time we had back
to back champs in the NFC East hadn't have been
like twenty years.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's been different, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
It's been the Giants, the Cowboys, the Eagles, the Eagles
down bars. But now we finally have a back to
back the NFC champ and the Cowboys are officially eliminated
from the postseason.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Ad damn, damn.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
It's been two decades since we've had a back to
back division champion in the NFC East.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
As long as long twenty years.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Right, last time was two thousand and four. Oh, Joe SR.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
And I said, we did what we thought was the
best interest to go one more point in my mind,
is not running up the score. Eagles right tackle Fred
Jones says, I guess they were upset we went for two,
But I don't give a f It's football. You can't
control what the next person does. Absolutely right, Sirianni job
as the coach fifteen. Let Dan Quinn coach the commanders.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
That's it. I mean, they're gonna start complaining about everything.
First touch push, they want to get the touch push playing.
Next thing, you know, they're gonna start complaining about people
going for two point. They're gonna try to get the
goddamn two point convergent bands. Listen, they don't matter what
the other team is running. Your job is to call
and play defensively, and the job for the players is
to stop the goddamn play. That's it, right, running up
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the goddamn score.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Man, Come on, now, you see they call you see
they calling them guards for false starting that to push.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, yeah, they called it.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
I'm like they've been doing it, yeah, been jumping the snap.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah they got an eye on it.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
That absolutely m oh joe.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Three of the sloppiest wins quarters in recent football college history,
followed by an incredible dramatic fourth quarter it looked like
taxas say, and then was going to force overtime or
score and potentially go for two like we saw with
the Seattle Seahawks due on Thursday night. Yes, but bright
Fitzgerald picked off Marcel Reid and the ends on with
twenty three seconds left of Miami's defensive linement. Ruben Bain
(36:55):
Junior put together performance for the age. Bane had four
tackles for losses three SAT and they blocked field goal. Uh,
you know, just getting he's the best college for He's
the best D lineman that I've seen this. Yes, but hey,
maybe there's there's some other guys out there. Oh, you're
the only thing with Marshall role that you cannot throw.
You gotta throw that guy open. There was a window
(37:17):
you would lay.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, super late, super late, Hey, super l trying to
aim it and obviously when you're that close, when you're
that when you're that close to the end zone, but
you gotta let that ball go early because you're running
out of god damn real estate. Not only not only
not early, you throwing the ball behind him anyway, So
it make it that it make it that easier for
the for the young freshman who had a second pick
(37:38):
of the day to send you home in the game,
it was. It was a defensive game today, Unk. It
was a defensive game with plays being made and sprinkled out.
Malakai Tony, Well, he's special, Unk. They called him down
here at the crib.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Unk.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
We call him baby Jesus. We call him Baby Jesus
for a reason. Man, listen, he was special. I was
kind of up. I was kind of sad for him
when he fumbled the ball. He fumbled the ball, then
went to the sideline, had his head down and seeing
his teammates Mark Mark Fletcher, Man Mark Fletcher was toting
that rock today. Yunk was toting that rock today. Year
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seventeen carried for one seventy two, and I had a
lot of people say, well, hell, if the Hurricanes were
running the ball like that, why didn't you just do
that the entirety of the game, just keep running the
ball until they stop it.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Man Carson back, Hey.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
He had he ain't had that kind of he had
that kind of year, that kind of game was. It
was bad.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Uh, he did the right thing getting up out of Georgia.
You're gonna be on the bench behind Stoptor.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
You think so.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Hell yeah, hell yeah. Those two interceptions really really killed him.
I mean texting them. They really couldn't run the football.
They had thirty five rushes on you for eighty nine yards.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah yeah, uh me.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
But it was a defensive game. Yeah, you're sprinkling some drops,
just you know, fumble here. Miami came to play in
a hostile environment. You know, I think Miami's office is
kind of challenged because of the quarterback play. I think
they got some skill position players that can play uh
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ten to three. But they got it right, They got
it right. I think Miami deserved to be there, Yes,
they got Who does Miami? Miami play Ohio State?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Ohio State. Listen, they're gonna have to come to the party.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Man, Okay, we're gonna talk about this a little later.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
O Yo.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Oregon beat James beat James Madison, beat the breaks off them.
That wasn't even interesting. So Oregon is at plays Texas Tech.
Alabama plays Indiana, Old Miss plays Georgia. This was a
game that went down to the wire earlier this year.
Old Mess was in control of this game and Georgia
came back and won. And do you play Ohio State?
Speaker 3 (40:06):
So, uh hey, are you and you can't play like this,
uh against Ohio State, they can't play like this offensively,
not gonna happen. Carson, Carson back, where you got a
you got.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Because Ohio State got a defense. Boy, they get appier,
they got they got some guys gonna go hide in
the draft. They get appier. They can get after Carson
Banks will have to have to play the game of
his life because I don't know. I don't know. And
Miami has a great defense. You don't don't. Yeah, they play,
They're here for a reason. We're not selling them short,
but they Ohio State has an offense. The question is
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Carson Beckett quarterback. Can he crack Ohio State's defense?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I mean, you know what you know? For Carson beck honestly,
it makes it easy because he has a receiving cause
to do that. He has a supporting cast. I mean
you you know the comparison people say Carnell Taitan and
Jeremiah Smith. There's nothing like that there over there at
m But youim they got some homegrown boys that's straight
here from Dade County. Yeah, that can play some ball.
(41:14):
They can protective, but that that too because.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
I don't come up about your receivers.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Your offensive line can't hold up because the Ohio State
got some guys get can get out of the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Absolutely, absolutely, it's gonna be a good one. It's gonna
I just know offensively, them boys gonna have to show up,
all of them.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, but this game, I mean Texas A and them.
I mean they let the they let the they let
they lose the Texas, you know, last game of the
season and now miss an opportunity to go to the
SEC championship game and then they lose. Look, there's a
lot to be proud of, but there's a lot there's
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some disappointment because you never want to lose your last
last two games, and they didn't play their best football.
Marcel Reeves got to do a better job of throwing
the football. I don't know what he's gonna do. I
don't know if he's coming back. He probably could use
another year in college if he has it. Ocho, Yeah,
he got to do a better job. You got to
have better anticipation because, as Ocho said, when the feeling
is condensed, you got to realize where do you think
(42:12):
the guy's going?
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Everything, everything snees up for.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I'm just saying that window was open.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
You got to throw him, throw him and let him
go get to the ball, because if you even if
even if you're not that far behind him, you're gonna
give the dB a chance because he can't backpedal out
of the end zone.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
What do you think he's going?
Speaker 3 (42:30):
And I can't. I can't remember to say. He's name
the young freshman. And he played it so well too,
just just the rout in general, how he said his
feet in the ground, He didn't back up anywhere. He
held his ground and broke right on it.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
He broke.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
He can't because if I if I stand right where
I am, you're gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Run over me or go behind me, one or the other.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
If I backpedal, I'm gonna be out the end zone
and you cut across my face. So I ain't. I'm
already eight yards deep in the ends. One. Where do
I need to go?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
It's not a field play where you have to get
some depth. Company might throw them all over your head.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
You have no choice. Yeah, all over your head.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
They're gonna be in love it.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah, he played it. He played it really well.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
He played he played it. He played it perfect. He
played it perfect. But the U moves on take on
Ohio State. Uh old Miss beat to Lane forty one ten.
Oh Joe, I know Tulane, but a Old Miss team
looked very good today. Lane Kiffin made two hundred and
(43:38):
fifty thousand dollars even though he's not coaching. Uh Look,
I thought Lane allowing some of the coaches that he
took with him to go back there and coach to
help Pete Golden, who's the defensive coordinator. The question is
(44:00):
before we talk about this game, if they win the
national championship, does Lane get a national championship ring on you?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Absolutely? Absolutely, because he was he was a party of Ysten,
heyy listen, he was, he was a part. He was
he's a reason and he was a part of that
team just before leaving. It was a huge part of
their success, huge part of their success. And and I
mean you remember, you got to remember who they playing today.
On you got you got to remember who they were
(44:27):
playing to say nothing, to clap about nothing, to be
to who you know, be be excited about. I call
it that would be a tune up game for what's
real and for what's to come. That ain't about nothing.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Ah, try to dad Chamblers two one touchdown. Austin Simmons
came in, played well, he plumbled the ball right before
the half, but they about to get points out of that.
That ran the ball thirty four times for a buck
fifty one t one Lacy fifteen.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Here's eighty seven yards.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
I mean, oh joe, they scored with like if it's
like three plays with fifty seconds.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah, game was over.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
It wasn't even I mean, look, you could just see
the difference. You know, my grandfaces always say, boy, just
because you got the fastest dunky, that don't mean you
deserve an invite to Kentucky Derby. Now got a fast
ass donkey. Yeah, Tulaine got a good teach, but ain't
need to play. Tulane should have been playing James Madison
in the boat.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Now that's a that's a good match. That would have
been a good game because at.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
No point in time did anybody think Tulane was gonna
beat it in this ball game. Nobody thought that the
same thing with James Madison. It's called the thirty four
to six. At the half game was over and we
were gonna look at it.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Man, that game was it? You know it wasn't. No,
it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
That wasn't even closed. They gotta come up to the system.
They gotta come up with Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt Texas would have
been better in this. You know, the same mens know
the name till they get in the conversation. They did
the right They stay y'all ass on crying, we ain't
going to a bowl game, and ain't nobody missing you?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
But uh, forty one to ten.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Forty one.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Oh Joe, you knew that was gonna happen, though, anybody
that understands what.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Everybody knew that was happening, except the committee. Okay, if
they're top ten, okay, oh Joe, we put them in.
But come on, now, come on there, y'all know, y'all
know this is not the same. Now, y'all know James
Madison in Tulane doesn't have the same caliber player.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
It's old missing the Oregon So what did you expect
to happen?
Speaker 3 (46:36):
I mean, listen, they understood what was gonna happen. They
understood what's gonna happen. But they were deserving based on
what they did throughout the season.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Oh Joe, you got to look at who they're playing. Okay,
if you put Tulane in the SEC, you think they're
gonna have this record, well they're gonna be overh okay,
you put them into Big ten, they're.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Gonna have this record.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
They might go find honey.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Propable opponents you playing.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Come on now, yeah, I'm listening. I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
When you're right.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna hug
at the point I'm witching when you're right.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
And it's a great story. It is.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Hey, we went to the college football playoffs one year
and you can still recruits that. But after this ass
whipping y'all took, it's gonna be hard for y'all to
get back in there again. You're gonna need to be
You're gonna probably need to be uh thirty. Can you
want lost three games? So the lost fister one today.
So you came in eleven to two. You're gonna need
to be thirteen to know you're gonna have to be
in the top ten. We can't be putting teams in like,
come on, now, come on, we got to be real
(47:34):
about this. There's a there there and y'all are okay,
if Tulane if y'all schedule one of these SEC teams,
because I think they played the Old Miss. Didn't they
play the Old Miss this year? I think it was
the second time they played Old Miss them forty five
(48:00):
ten in the regular season. Yeah, okay, now they beat
them forty one to ten.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Hey, so they beat you. They beat you eighty six
to twenty two times.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Hey, that's like it's like you get beat up, You
go home and you tell your momy you had to fight.
You got beat up, and she sent you back at
the house. Go back and fight me.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Do you whip you ass again?
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Whoop you ass again? Nah?
Speaker 1 (48:22):
You the a?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
He beat you so bad, saying you don't go out
there and you fight him. You don't fight him, You're
gonna have to fight me. Well, Mama, I'm gonna have
to whip you though that did you told me up?
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Mama? You got to take it? Hey?
Speaker 3 (48:37):
That's hell boy?
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Yeah, I mean, what come, I get it? Like you know,
there's like, okay, we gotta find ways for this for
the I guess like a mid major. They're not a
mid major, O Joe. But I'm saying they're not a part.
There's there's levels to this. There's levels.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah it is, and listen, oh yo, just because look
the committee knows that. They know that, so I'm not listen.
I'm not sure how the voting goes. I'm not sure
who those are that control the voting. But they saw
fit to allow two Lane to be in. They saw
fit to allow James Madison to be in.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Well, rolled the hell out that wave. You know, they
rolled the hell out that wave. I mean they that
supposed to be that wave, and the old miss that
you know, they ain't got nowhere to be riding no
waves in no Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
I get getting the dirty as the Mississippi River. But anyway,
Old Miss rolled the hell out that green wave. Look,
you got some nice gifts. I wonder what the gift
bag was. You probably got some headphones and nice and
some nice gear and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
You got a little check, got a little check too, right, Yeah, huh.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
I guess they. I'm sure they do. I'm sure they
got a little money. They probably get fit. They probably
got a fousand dollars fifteen hundred. And you have the
local barbers, the local barbers in Mississippi come cut the
teams here and everything like that. That's what they normally do. Ojo.
That's it. Yeah. I mean you can get your nice
get your nice temper fade or whatever you want to do.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
You got I guess you got braids. They'll have people
come braid your hair. But this, come on, man, and
I listen. I'm not saying that couldn't happen to a
Power five team. I'm not saying I guess the Power
four is not. But anyway, I'm not saying that that
can't happen. But when you look at but look at
(50:36):
the Power five and people, I know everybody's gonna say, well,
look what Georgia did.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
The TCU. TCU kicked Michigan ass to get there.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yeah, if Taulane had to beat Alabama or Vanderbilt or
Texas or Texas Tech, you know somebody, Ohio State, sign.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Me up, you got your boy?
Speaker 3 (50:56):
It may it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah, man, you can't be beating the teams like that. Man.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
But uh, and that's the thing I'm it'd be interesting
to see. I didn't I didn't hear it because well,
coach Sable was on it. They had been interested. What
did coach Saban have to say? Did you hear what
he had to say, oh, Joe, because I'm sure he was,
because he wasn't. He wasn't too pleased to begin with.
He's like, because the level of competition that you played
and to get this invite, I think he compared I
(51:27):
think I read he compared it to a minor league team,
a Triple A team winning a bunch of games and
getting the opportunity to play for the World Series, getting
the opportunity to go to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
And you know, the big guy.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
But weight classes, there's a reason why we have all
these things. There's a difference, and just because you're good,
that doesn't mean you're the best at it. So oh man,
they're eleven and two, okay. And in regardless, you think
that you think Tulane is better than than than Vanderbilt,
you think you think Delane is better than Tennessee Texas.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
No, absolutely no, Listen, there's a reason they have way classes.
Like you said, also, in college football, there's there's levels,
there's levels. There's levels to it, and you see the
discrepancy and the difference in levels when you have some
of the smaller schools playing some of the bigger schools
regards to what your record shows the play is different,
(52:25):
the skill gap is different, the quality of players you
get is different.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah, and it showed there's a reason why the SEC
and the Big Ten put more players in the NFL
than any other conference.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
Yeah, there's a reason why. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
If you just take the Big.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Ten and you take the SCC, and you take all
the other conferences, you take the ACC, you take the
Big Twelve, you take the Sunbelt, you take the A, A, C,
you take whatever, they still don't because when you look
at it, I mean they putting forty guys. They're putting
forty guys, the instance putting forty guys, the big team
(53:07):
putting thirty five forty guys.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
That's crazy a year. Come on, man, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
In Texas, I'm sure Sark is like, man, these jokers
got an opportunity to get their ass kicked. Texas was
playing good at the right time, Vanderbilt playing good at.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
The right time. Time.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Timing is everything.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Oregon Blast James madisonbody scored fifty one to thirty four.
James Madison Duke's making their playoff debut, played well, played
well on offense the game five hundred nine yards and
scored thirty four points despite leaving a couple of points
on the board.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
This game wasn't even close.
Speaker 3 (53:50):
No, not at all. And listen, don't don't don't let
the end the end game or the end score for
you now was.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
Thirty four to six at the half yep I said that, like, well,
how much more of this game do I need to watch?
They talking about? Man, go watch go go watch the Bears, Packers, Lebrono,
the Laker game by the cop right, I mean, at.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
One point, wasn't it forty eight?
Speaker 2 (54:15):
It was forty eight to something, forty eight though twenty three,
forty eight to twenty something.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. I mean, there's
no there's no way, there's no way that James Madison,
they don't they don't. They ain't got enough rocks in
their back pocket. Even even heat with organ on. It's
not even fair. But one, as you know, games have
won and lost right up front. Yeah, that alone right there.
You don't have a chance. You don't have a chance.
(54:44):
That's that's all that was was a tune up game.
You know, I box boxes have two enough fights and
most of the time you have a tune up fight.
Is somebody that they know you are better than and
all you're doing, you're trying, You're just working on your stuff.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
That's all it was.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
I mean you look at that, what fifty one to
thirty five? So people look at that like man, and
they had five hundred yards of offense. Man, I think
so out today's like, look, let's not get anybody hurt, right,
got we got a game next week or in two
weeks or.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Whenever they play. But it's a I don't know.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
Committee, y'all gott to rethink how y'all do things. And
I understand, take the twelve best teams. Take the twelve
best teams, not necessarily twelve highest ranked team you think so, committee,
can you honestly say that James Madison and Tulane are better,
are better than Texas Vanderbilt and know to Dame, I
(55:50):
ain't got no love lost for no today?
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Do it?
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Do you actually believe that James Madison and Tulane are
better than the three teams I just mentioned?
Speaker 3 (56:01):
No, absolutely not. And the people that the people that
are part of the committee, they know that. But the
criteria that they judge on that they base everything off
of on who gets in and who doesn't. I mean
the criterias was messed up because the ain't no where
in hell, ain't nowhere in hell. James Madison, organ like,
(56:21):
come on now, come on now, old Lane, I mean Tulane, old,
come on now. You had better team that could have
been in regards to what it regards to whether they
had two or three losses or not. You know, that
would have given us better games to watch. It would
have been better competition.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
And Texas is a bigger draw than James Madison or
Tulane Van the Bilt would have been bigger. A draw
not to Dame would have been a bigger draw. Because
you said it's about money.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
This is this was this was. They missed on this, Joe, Yeah,
they did. They missed on this one. They definitely need
to do a better job because this was a oh
my goodness. I don't really know what to say. I mean, oh, Joe,
(57:17):
I can't, I can't.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
I mean, how many people do you think turn the
game at halftime thirty four to six? What about watching?
Speaker 1 (57:25):
What about?
Speaker 3 (57:26):
What?
Speaker 1 (57:26):
What do I hope this is gonna happen?
Speaker 3 (57:31):
I mean, people, man, that this the only people that
are watching.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Honestly, Yeah, they put them there's a reason why ESPN
passed those games of T and T.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
It ain't no accident. It is not an accident. It's
I don't know, chat, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
I'm sorry guys that you had to watch James Madison
and and congratulations to those schools. Hey, it's a hell
of an accomplishment. It's a hell of an accomplishment. But
it's just like, Oh Joe, with the HBC used and
you win your tournament and you get guess who they
give you. They give you Duke digging your North Carolina,
they give you Kansas, they give you Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (58:25):
Mm hm, hey bet it, bet it. Better put your
big boy bridges on. That's goodball, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
Adam Schefter just giving us an update on T J.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
Watt After missing two games due to a partially collapsed lung,
wats return to play remains murky and uncertain. Wat's focus
has been getting on getting healthy from his partially collapsed
lung returning to play as secondary and he's not, and
that's not been its focus. Darkness will assess how he
feels next to see if there's even a chance to
play in week seventeen, but ideally what gets more time
(59:05):
to recover from his lung injury that resulted in him
being ruled out Sunday game versus Detroit. Pittsburgh has got
their fingers cross saying I hope he don't see.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Us, and knowing knowing him, I don't really see.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
Plus they got they gave him money. They ga him
a hundred and what one hundred and eight hundred and
nine million dollars fully guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
He's straight good.
Speaker 3 (59:26):
He's good because it's.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
The same thing that happened to remember Taylor the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
The Chargers had some some rib issues in the preseason.
He got it, got a thing and jack Dad and
they approached his lung. He sued him. If I'm not mistaking,
I think he won. Don't quote well that I believe
it is by what I've read that you know he
had he did file a suit. Can we look that
up to make sure, because I did think he filed
a suit.
Speaker 3 (59:52):
Hey, just a just thinking about that needle going through
the skin now, that don't bother me. That don't bother
me at all. Because I had to get shot up
at halftime because I was cramping in my calf. The
only thing that bothers me and is cringey. Is the
fact that them going in the ribs and then actually
puncturing the lung. That's the part that doesn't sit well
(01:00:13):
with me. Cause you got you uncle, what you say
when you do dry kneedling, they got to move it around.
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
What dry kneeling is that they're trying to you know,
they're trying to get blood flow in there. And then
you know it's kind of like, I mean, you see
you seen James Harrison get all those acupunctures where he's
looking like pin head, He's got his whole back, his legs, ass,
calves everything.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I wouldn't know. I wasn't no, I wasn't no big
fan of acupuncture. I did it one time.
Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Man, that thing hurt worse than the needles then getting injected.
I was like, noah, no more of this for me.
I'm good cuz is that bad for me?
Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
For me? Now?
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Some people say it didn't bother them, but and I
was like I did. I like, I'm good, Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
But I want to see what that's like.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Uh. I think it's gonna be very hard. I think
more probably more probable than not that all things being equal,
o Joe. If the Pittsburgh Steelers make the playoffs, I
think that's probably when we'll see JJ because that Lung's
gonna have to inflate back up.
Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Yeah, I just don't like the way that sound. Yeah, okay, okay,
Hong shit long.
Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
So well, I guess they're saying that he got his salary. Yeah,
so that's why you know it's going to trial. But
he said, well, I had him sent this too. I
could have I could have reached because that's when they
had drafted Justin Herbert and he was gonna be the starter.
But he gets hurt. Justin Herbert plays out of his
(01:01:58):
mind's rookie of the Year because Herbert and and and
Chase came in the same year. Yeah, so he's like,
I could have played and potentially got more, uh as
a starter somewhere else he should have suited for more.
Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
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win this division. Who would have based on what they
had last year? Oho, But we thought with Ben Johnson
coming in, you picked them to be one of your
surprise teams, them in the Carolina Panthers to be one
of your surprise teams. And I think they surprised a lot.
(06:06):
I think they're a lot better than people they thought
they would improve. But I don't think anybody thought given
that division, with Green Bay and Detroit stealing that division, OHO,
I don't think anybody had Chicago pick.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
To win that division. Just go to show you what
the coaching staff.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
They brought in some addition, they revamped the offensive line
in center in Dalbn new left guard and Thooney new
right tackle. So they revamped that offensive and they got
Lovelace lovedlyan excuse me. Loveland is the tight end, the
first round draft pick, and he's been phenomenal. So give
the Chicago Bears credit.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Oho.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Jordan Love leaves the game, but Malik Willis did not disappoint.
He played extremely well eleven and twenty one yards, threw
a touchdown pass the Romeo Dobbs, but it was not enough.
Because this was all about the Chicago Bears. When they
needed to get a stop, they got a stop. They've
been but they didn't break. They made them settle for
a field goal. And because Dick kicks or touch down
the games over. Yes, but they made him kick a
(07:02):
field goal. They go down the field getting field goal range,
kick the field goal, go for the own side.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Romeo Doms misplayed it.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Uh and and given his concussion history, O Joe, I'm
not so sure you want him there with those kind
of collisions because that think they're coming, and they're coming
with bad intentions. And remember that you ain't no help
in the help on the own side.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Now that's a car.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
That is a for real car crash.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, but you also you want you want your players
with your best hands and the ones that you trust
the most in those such important situations like that, you
want them on your hands team.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Also, Josh Jacobs going in for a touchdown, he fumbled
the football. That has been his history. He's had a history.
He's had a propensity to put the ball on the ground.
So Jo as we start getting closer and closer, and
we start in December, and we moved towards January. Yes,
you got to hold onto the football. You cannot turn
it over. The ball is a premium and it cost them.
(08:01):
And guess what, we didn't see him anymore. Yeah, yeah,
we didn't see him anymore. Listen, and Manuel Wilson took
over from there. Yeah, Josh Jacobs, you got to do
a better job of holding on to the football. They know,
they know you'll give it up at some point in time,
and they're gonna keep hammering at it. You're good, back,
but you gotta hold on to the football. Oh, Joe,
what did you like about what you saw from Chicago?
Because Green Bay really controlled this game.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Listen until Yeah, they controlled the game. That really, they
controlled the game in its entirety throughout the game. I really, honestly,
I'm gonna tell you, I thought the Bears are gonna lose.
And going into the fourth quarter, five minutes left into
the fourth quarter, the game is sixteen to six. Yeah,
I'm like, hey, that's a two score game with only
five minutes left on the clock. So many different things
(08:44):
have to go right for the Bears to even have
a chance to come back. And those goddamn things that
needed to go right unk, they went right. Those things
absolutely went right. The center exchanged the mess up between
Malik Willison the center this hey, listen, you can't have
that with the starting center and the backup quarterback. How
many snaps do they get?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Think about it, Ojo, You got to realize Malie Willis
has been in the game, so they had taken a
lot of them.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
They had to think about.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
When Jordan Love went out, right, Malik Willis comes in,
he comes yes, because I didn't see I didn't me
and I want you to go o Joe. I didn't
see Jordan Love until they replayed it where he got
help and to Helvet yes, I did. I didn't see
it in real time. Informed down, I said, why did
Why did they bring Malik Willis right? And then and
then when they went back they showed it. I said, okay,
that's why they were Belie Willison go ahead on to
(09:32):
finish a point.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
But also I think that might have been a problem.
I'm like, you know, you can't you can't blame the weather.
You can't blame the weather. I would I would just
say the fact that even though even though he wasn't
there for a few snaps, once Jordan Love went out,
I mean that center and quarterback exchange and the fact
that they haven't had any type of continuity together that
might have played a part in it. Maybe Malik Willison
closed his hands fast enough. I mean, I don't know.
(09:54):
I don't know, because Jordan Love is tooking a thousand
god damn snaps and it hasn't been one center exchange
where there's been an issue, and all of a sudden,
there's one tonight. And obviously certain things that have to
go right, and that was one of them. They had
to go right in the Bear's favor for them to
even have an opportunity and a chance to win this game,
including the goddamn on sidekick.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
When you fall behind, Ojoe, you have to if as
the behind team, you have to do everything right because
if they messing up Ojo, we how many times we said, oh,
the game was right there for the taken such and
such did did such and such and such did that,
but you didn't take advantage of the opportunity. So if
you're the behind team, from the time you're behind, you
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have to do everything right. Now as the team that's
in the lead, you need because all they needed to
look in the momentum because realize you're on the road.
So what happens, Ohoe, Now of a sudden, the crowd
gets back in the game. The game's had the crowd
at Bay for the entirety of the game quiet. Now
all of a sudden, you got seventy thousand fans. They're
into it, and then they stop your own third don't.
(10:59):
I don't like the call. I didn't like to call
him third down. I think you give the ball. I
think you give the ball to a Manuel Wilson and
you go ahead and get the first down.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And I look and.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'm I just hate that offset. I just hate But anyway,
that's not to hear another. But with that being said,
oh Joe, I think Emanuel Wilson, you're giving the ball
both times, and you say, offensive line, we need one yard,
we need one yard. Now we get a new set
of downs. They it didn't happen. I think the Bears,
the Bears Bears give deserves a lot of credit. But
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Malik Willis showed me something because when I'm looking at
him in Tennessee, we didn't see this Malie Willis, so
it might be something. In Tennessee, Mike Rable was his coach.
They didn't want him. He looked like a very, very
competent quarterback. He looks like he can be a starter.
I can look around the league and he's better than
some people starters. That be the system, It might be
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Green Bay and what they have to offer. But oh Joe,
he looks very competent.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Right now now, And you heard what you just said.
It might be the system, or it might be what
Green Bay has to offer. You gotta look what he
has around him. Look at what he has surrounding him,
Look at the personnel, look at the offensive line, look
at the running back, look at the receiver, the receiving corps.
So you're gonna look like a competent quarterback when you're
playing for a team from top to bottom that understands
how to build a team where you can compete week
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in and week out. Of course, I mean, when's the
last Tennessee. When is the last time Tennessee has a
team that's been structurally built from the top to bottom,
you know, to be able to compete week the week.
There's a reason it was picking number one in the
draft last year. There's a reason why. So they're not
gonna look the same. And unless you're a superman. You
can't go to a team that's not structurally built the
right way. You gotta be superman to make them look good,
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if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Bears take control of the NFC North Ojoe, Yeah, eleven
and four, their game behind the Seattle Seahawks that are
twelve and three. But there are two games in front
of the green Bay Packers. Now, well, they're game and
a half because green Bay has a tie. Actually yeah,
well theoretically that's two games because you know, they only
have four in the lost column and you got one
got five in the lost column and one in the
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tie column. So there are two games ahead of green
Bay and there three games uh uh, and the win
column ahead of Detroit. We'll see what Detroit does tomorrow.
But if they win one of these last two games,
one of their last two ball games, they're gonna win
the nf They're gonna win the NFC North, and they'll
be the number they have. They'll be the number two seed.
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Oh yeah, Can can the Eagles be the two seed?
No yet, I guess they theoretically they could, but yeah,
I'm talking about Chicago because Chicago's gonna win that division.
The question is do they'll do. Do the Eagles own
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any tie breakers over them? And like if they went
out and and and the Bears lose one of their
last two ball games, does that give them the Eagles
enough to jump them. That'll be very interesting. But oh yeah,
well yeah, oh so that's that's a mood point. So
all they have to do is win one of their
last two games, and they're the number two seed, but
they're eyeing they're eyeing potentially that number one seed, so
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which is gonna be very very interesting if they have enough,
if theyre on the tiebreakers over Seattle or the Rams.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But we'll see how that turns out.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
But I was very impressed with Chicago because it seemed
like they were meandering, going through the motion, going through
the motion, and then all of a sudden, Caleb Williams.
This is why they selected them number one overall because
he can just make plays.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
He has the ability to make plays.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
On the move. He can fit the ball in the
tight window. He can throw from the pocket, but he
can throw off his back foot, he can throw rolling left,
he can throw rolling right. And they've done a great
job of giving him that. You know, DJ Moore, Roman dudes,
they didn't play the Kills coach, the Lovelin cole Comet.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
They have guys.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yes, Green Bay messed this up in the down there
oho and went when they went for on what was
that fourth down brought the brown blitz. Look like on
the left the right side, like I'm facing to the
right side. It looks like they was gonna pass this off.
If he comes in, I'm gonna take him. You stay outside. Yeah,
but it seemed like the outside guy said, oh damn.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I'm a jumping you got it? Yeah. If any if anything,
they shouldn't. They should have passed it off because the
person the person listen, the person going from out the end.
I mean, once you pass it off, you're already in position,
in position, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So you don't have to worry about you don't have
to worry about anything.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You got everything covered because the guy goes in, he
goes in to a guy that's already inside and out.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And if the guy coming out.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Your position to make that play, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Some of the frustration with somebody like how do how
do we how do we see this? Is why I
can't coach, because if you're supposed to pass it off
on your how we gonna practice that now you you
don't think they practiced that formation against that?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
He absolutely and getting the game and with the pressure.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
That's what say, press pipes?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It does it does?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You know?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Lack of lack of communication, that's all. Lack of communication
in the ball.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I don't need to communicate. We don't rehearse this. What
do I do?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Oh Joe, I don't need to tell you the O Joe,
you got an out rock. We don't really render where
You've been running the out rope the whole the whole
practice all week long.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
O Joe.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You've been hitting ten, roll to twelve. Now all of
a sudden, come to the game. Time to rubber, need
to read the road, you run the in cut?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
What you know?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Just miscommunication, no miscommunication. That's the most important time. That
is the difference between good and great, because the great
in that moment, they don't succumb to the pressure. First quarter,
he probably all over it, but he understands what's at stake,
O Joe.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Now all of a sudden, what was this big all
of a sudden?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Oh yeah, very very tight.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Now he hadn't got now he ate a bag of limbas.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, you're right, and that pression that, especially a situation
like that, that that's what happens.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's look, Green Bay gonna be kicking themselves because we
had him dead the right and we had him out
and we had an opportunity, we had an opportunity to
set ourselves in great, great positions, and we let him
off the hook.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yep. And you can't you know what, you can't blame
the quarterback situation. You can't blame Jordan Love going out,
because Malik Willis came out and they were able to
call exact same plays, run the exact same offense, and
had the exact same efficiency efficiency as if Jordan Love
was still in.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So no, no, no, no, no, this is not This
is not a quarterback where we like yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. This is not a quarterback issue. This is
a situation where you squadned too many opportunities. You fumbled
the ball going in. You're gonna get points out of
that at worst case scenario, Oh Joe, you're gonna get three.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And then you had a situation on third.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Down, I don't know what the play you call, and
you call something and Green and the Bears had it covered.
Elie Willis scrambles and he gets back to their line
of scrimmage, and then on fourth down, the center quarterback
exchange out of don't know if I don't know if
he took it out because wasn't it wasn't they in
the gun?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
He wasn't under center. Wasn't he was in the gun? Yeah,
I forget Yeah, and another can you.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Pull that and see if they were in the gun.
If he's under center, he might have been under centered.
I don't because all I know is that the back
reached down and picked it up and tried to get back,
but there was too much penetration.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
You know. Another thing who deserves credit the Bears kicker.
I can't remember what his last name was, but he
had a fifty four or fifty one, and fifty four
in those conditions. Listen, in those conditions with the wind
blowing like that, and the fact that I was able,
I was, I was watching him, and if the wind
was blowing to the right, he kicked the ball just
to smidge far left so the wind would take do
the rest of the work for him.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
He was under center. Malie Wis was under center. He
was okay.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, And that's the thing we're gonna talk about the
Miami kicker because I thought in that situation on Jo,
I thought they was gonna say, hey, if you get
the first down, go down and let us walk it off.
But because the kicker had missed, and people like, well
you try kicking in that conditions, Oh Joe. The reason
why we go out there and warm up is that
we can take advantage. We want to see what our
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cleats are like. We want to see what our gloves
are like. The kickers go out there before us to
see what the elements are.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
They cook it each hash. They start at like twenty
five yards.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
They go left, hash middle, right, hash X, Y, and
z and they back out go ahead oo.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And the funny thing about it as a kicker, and
I can say this somebody, I'm not even joking around.
As a kicker, you see the kicker during the game
when you flip sides of the field, you take the grass,
You take the grass, you hold it up or whatever
you need to do. No, lick your finger. Put your
finger so you can see which way the wind is blowing.
Because the weather in the way, and then in the
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direction of which the wind is blowing, it changes. As
the game is going on it changes. So you as
a kicker, you're supposed to know that. I don't understand
what Miami kicker was doing today. I don't notice you
you adjust to the climate. It's it's okay.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And what do kickers and punters do? The kick on
both ends of the field field? You have to, I
mean you kick it on one end there the opposing
team is kicking on one end and then you guys
flip yes. So therefore you know what it's like kicking
in that direction. You know the kicking like in this direction.
So now the elements and you get a field. We
go out there before we want to test our shoes.
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Do we need the motive bottom is good knock? Or
do we need studs?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The gloves?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
What type of gloves do you need? All that, that's
why you go out there to feel it. Your quarterbacks
go out there to throw because they need to know
the conditions. So we don't just you know, hey and
and and text it and them kicking. So that's that's
that's what that. We weren't talk about that game a
little a little later, but Caleb Williams walks it off
with DJ Moore back hey throwing off his back foot.
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But go back and look at though he is calm.
I mean he throws the ball and puts his hands
in his warmers.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
That's what hey hold on. That just wasn't any throw. No,
that retreated. That was a dot in the in the
bread basket. He didn't have to break stride, he didn't
have to do nothing except put his hands up and
make sure he secured the catch. That was it. That
was a beautiful throw.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
And that was the heck of a catch because the
guy was all over it. He was all over him.
He did a hell he did a hell of a
job holding on to that football. But Kayla Wibbs, that
was a great throw. That was a tremendous win by
the Chicago Bears. They did an unbelievable job of remaining poise,
keeping the coup and and finding a way to win
this ball game. That is the that's coaching. That's coaching,
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and that's the belief that we're never out of.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
A ball game. Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
But you know, turnovers, get your beat, o yoe, get
your beat every time. And that was you know, that
was the different really the difference in the ball game
because you took points off the board, and but uh,
Chicago man, Caleb. They hey, they're young team, they're gonna
they're gonna ask some more. They're gonna ask some more peace.
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I mean, they got a quarterback. They got a quarterback
that they're gonna have for the.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
So all you got to do or you got.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Like I said, you got the kias, you got loveling
a uh walker cole comment DeAndre Swift. You can run
the ball the number one rushing team, and when you
can run the football, your playoffs should be.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Exemplary, beautiful. It makes everything that much easier. Anytime you
get run, it makes everything else you want to do
offensively easier. You're running the ball, the playbook opens up exponentially.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Absolutely well, Chicago A they might not have a place
to play.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
They might be looking for a venues to play. They
talked about going to.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Gary, and they talking about Gary, Indiana city everywhere. But hey,
all I know you're gonna have wherever you go right now.
You got a great team to go into that building.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And I saw I saw those reports
about them going to Gary, Indiana. Uncle, it ain't nothing
but a thirty minute drive from from down from Chicago,
from downtown.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
You know what, O Joe, It's just that you have
to think about how long you've been at Soldier Field, right,
I mean, you know you're just something about the monsters
of the Midway.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
But hey, teams are moving working you see, Uh, there's
a Kansas City they're thinking about moving out moving there.
You know, these these lawmakers talk about, hey we got
a billion dollars, come on out here go where?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Uh they're trying to move to Missouri? Right? Oh?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
St whoa Kansas city?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Okay, hold on, you know you listen, my geography is
kind of off. Now, how far is Kandasity away from Missouri?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Don't start me to line? Aren't they trying to move?
Aren't they trying to move them out of Missouri to
Kansas City or the other way around? So yeah, they're
moving them out of Missouri to Kansas.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Okay, yeah, uh.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So but you could see Kansas right.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
So look, and the thing is what we're what we're
seeing is that these owners, although they're billionaires, they're trying
to spend as little as possible on the U stadium.
Uh maybe you do you think like, okay, somebody's gonna
give us a sweetheart deal, blah blah blah, because everybody
ain't got money like stan Kronk stan Kronkay, say I'm
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leaving Saint Louis, I'm gonna have a bill. I got
a billion dollars of that scrow. Because it costs money
to move. You have to play the league to move
to relocate. O, Joe.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Absolutely, I understand it. I understand it. You know, economically,
you know, financially, I mean what it does when they
have to move, what owners need to be able to move. Yes,
and Standard is in a different situation than everybody else.
Do you understand do you understand how many franchises staying
owns outside of justin goddamn Rams man. Listen yeah, Arsenal,
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Yeah you know what Arsenal? Yeah, yeah, listen. I would
if if, hypothetically speaking as much as I love the
game of soccer, you know who would have been the
first person to play for the Rams and for the
for Arsenal?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Who?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Who?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Okay, yeah, I don't know, Joe.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
It's I've never seen nobody play two sports, and and
that was sports. I mean we see baseball, basketball, baseball, football, football, basketball, football, baseball,
but that cross over there.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I would have I would have been for I would
have been the first one. I would have been. I
would have been a gunner, would have been a ram Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
But see all he does is kick. See Ojo used
to do it with hands. So they're gonna kick that ball,
you're gonna catch it unless he's gonna be a goalie.
But I thought Brandon, as we mentioned Brandon Aubrey, I
watched him in the and and the u f L,
and he he had a leg. He was booming it.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
He'd been doing that, boy, he been doing it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
But the Bears still top of the NFC nor thanks
to a twenty two to sixteen overtime victory over the
Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
The Eagles beat the Commanders by the score of twenty
nine to eighteen. Nick s around and said this team
wasn't trying to run his score up against Washington with
a two point conversion late to give him a seventeen
point lead, but as the play ended, a fight broke
out on the field, resulting in three players being ejected,
line with Tyler Steen and the Commander's defensive end Javon
Kenilong and Kwan Martin. O Joe, did you like the
moves by the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, yeah, damn there. You know what I like about
the Eagles that you know, they were able to do
to they own that they haven't been able to do
all year successfully consistently. They were able to run the ball.
They were able to run the ball. Sae Quan had
twenty one carries, He had a TV he had one
hundred and thirty two yards jenning Hurst through the area,
I mean was he was okay, twenty two for thirty
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two tens for one sixty five, one five. But my
eyes so bad. Damn, my eyes so bad. Oh yeah, yeah,
one eighty five. I mean it was cool. They did
what needed to be done to get the job done today.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
To drop past it too.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Dropped a couple of day, Yeah, Davante dropped a couple
of yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And so his stats probably I don't think they weren't
like huge yardage, but he could have had a couple
more touchdowns to that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
A few more. And you know what, there was really
no threat at no point in the game where the
command is a threat to the Eagles at all. The
Eagles were really able to have their way and do
everything they wanted to do, whether it was through the air,
whether it's through the ground, and I mean it was,
it was, it was. It was a winnable game in
the game they should have won, and they did just that.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
The Eagles need to get their kicking situation resolved. I'm
right here, Elliott, Elliott. Elliott is not automatic like he
once was, Oh Joe. And you know in the playoffs
it comes down it. These games are a one possession
game and lo times it's a field goal.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Is that the different in that possession?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yes? And hey, hey, I'm telling you you got somebody
right here with a fresh leg. You know, I'm good
from seventy. I'm not just good from seventy. I'm good
from seventy consistently. I'm good from sixty to fifty forty
thirty after field goals p A T. I mean, that's
what I do, Sirihanni. If you need someone, if you
need someone like me, if you need some what's up baby,
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a vacuum? Who spilled something? Stop eating? Go pick the
pringers up and don't take no more food in that room. Yeah,
go ahead, I mean no, I mean, I mean just
I mean, there's there's no way you can get a
kicker right now, not this time, because anyone that's available
is a reason why they're available.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You well, hey, what do you call him available? I
don't know if they're looking at him. I mean he
had two try outs, justin Tucker.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Oh, I forgot I forgot Tuck.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
You know, hell and you, Hey, you're gonna have to
block You're gonna have to block out the noise. Yeah,
I mean, and you know what comes along. He had
a couple of seat he had a couple of tryouts.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
We'll see, you know, when one of our favorite kicks
is available, young ho Coup.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, when I think, no, I think I think after
your way, after he missed the whole ball, it's gonna
be tough for him to get back.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah you think that. Yeah, Yeah, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
But the Eagles, the Eagles are twenty six first downs.
They uh, they got three first downs. They were only
for they were four to nine. Uh from on third down.
I mean they possessed the ball thirty four minutes, like
you said. Uh and then uh Marcus Marioda looked like
he dislocated a finger or something, and they brought they
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bought Johnson. Then on Yoa, he's been on there's been
thirty two teams in the NFL. He's been on damn
near twenty of them. Yeah, I mean at that point
in time, you know, all there was no chance right
that the commanders were gonna mound anything as far as
the comeback. There's a reason why a guy and I
thought Josh McCown had been on a bunch of teams. Hey,
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he ain't got no room for nobody else's jerseys. He
got all his jerseys on his wall in the basement.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
How many teams that he's been on, ash, he's gotta
been on like thirteen to fourteen.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Oh, Joe, so he's he's in the same boat with God,
damn it, damn who Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh, he's been on way more teams. He doubled, he
done double, Fitzpatrick. Josh McCown has been on a bunch
of teams. He doesn't got he don't pay. He way
past Josh McCown. Okay, he's done been on like thirteen
fourteen teams.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Okay, damn, I'm trying to think. He says I could
have swong.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
He've been We've been on Washington twice, eight total different
teams and how many years only well, he had two
stints with Washington. How many have Josh McCown and Fitzpatrick's
been on Because I know Fitzpatrick's with the Jets, he's
with Buffalo, He's with Miami.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
He think with Cincinnati. I think he's with the.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Texans and everywhere. Physical boy, he'd be dealing that thing.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Boy, just know you ain't going to the playoffs. He's
gonna be fancy, but you ain't going to the playoffs, right.
Josh McCown has been on eleven teams. But he played
like twenty years, didn't he. I think he played like
twenty years, don't Joe. Yeah, he's a he's somewhere. He's
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coaching now. He's a quarterback coach in Minnesota. I just
saw him real recently. I think he's a quarterback coach
in Minnesota. Don't be surprised because remember he got interviewed
for a job. Don't be surprised if he get a job.
I mean, how can you Can you still be the
Chicago Bears if you play it, if you play if
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you play in another state mm hmm, if you're in Indiana,
can you still be called the Chicago Bears?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Because it's not that far you you still, you still
and Gary Indian Yeah, that's you know what, that's a
good question. That's hey, listen, that's a great question, even
though it's so close.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Well, I guess they say, well, theoretically the Giants they
don't play in New York.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
They're playing Jersey in Jersey. Yeah, so, and they still
call them the New York Giants. It makes sense. Do
you think they were trying You had a problem with
them going for two? No, you, I don't.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I don't know what the purpose was. I mean, whatever,
play that you I'll save it for a rady day.
I'm damn sure not breaking it out now after I'm
already beating the team by the score up, which we beating.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Them, and probably they just want to try something. They
probably worked on it. They you heard what up?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
What you call them saying? Though he said we see him,
we'll see him in two weeks now, I'm telling you, now,
you're gonna get guys going out there. You hey, oh,
you want to run this score up? Okay, they're gonna
cheap shots here, They're gonna do all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Hey, stop it if you don't like it, stop it.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Uh, it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be a lot
of fights. I mean, you got for you saw the
fight happen when you went for two. Oh yeah, so
you so you.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Know what's coming when you when we go to Philly.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Oh yeah, hold.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
On extra to it now.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
They played, they play again and what two weeks? Oh yeah, Well,
it ain't gonna be no different. It ain't gonna be
no different. You don't have enough horse power. I love
I love the Commanders. You don't have enough horsepower to
compete with the Eagles right now, even even as up
and down and it's inconsistent as they've been all year long.
You don't have enough horsepower.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
They would have to, they would have to just lay down.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Nah, they're not gonna lay down because they got to play,
because they're trying to get You know that. You know
you tried to Obviously you wanted the vision, so you're
gonna get the home playoff ge yeah yah yeah yeah yeah,
but okay, I may have a little sauce to it.
So y'all want to be out here, y'all want to
go for two, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
We got something for that.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Hey, you saw earning
the game.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
How they stole on DJ Moore?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Ah, you noticed that?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, I noticed it.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I had nothing to do with the play.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yeah, I thought you would have missed that.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Nah, hell Na, I saw it. I got something for y'all,
did you say, See what you'll get. That's what y'all
get for trying the.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Cheap shot me. Let me let me send y'all home.
Let me send y'all home the right way.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
But the Eagles, this is the first time in a
long time we were The last time we had back
to back champs in the NFC East hadn't have been
like twenty years.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's been different, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
It's been the Giants, the Cowboys, the Eagles, the Eagles
down bars. But now we finally have a back to
back the NFC champ and the Cowboys are officially eliminated
from the postseason.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Ad damn, damn.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
It's been two decades since we've had a back to
back division champion in the NFC East.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
As long as long twenty years.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Right, last time was two thousand and four. Oh, Joe SR.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
And I said, we did what we thought was the
best interest to go one more point in my mind,
is not running up the score. Eagles right tackle Fred
Jones says, I guess they were upset we went for two,
But I don't give a f It's football. You can't
control what the next person does. Absolutely right, Sirianni job
as the coach fifteen. Let Dan Quinn coach the commanders.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
That's it. I mean, they're gonna start complaining about everything.
First touch push, they want to get the touch push playing.
Next thing, you know, they're gonna start complaining about people
going for two point. They're gonna try to get the
goddamn two point convergent bands. Listen, they don't matter what
the other team is running. Your job is to call
and play defensively, and the job for the players is
to stop the goddamn play. That's it, right, running up
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the goddamn score.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Man, Come on, now, you see they call you see
they calling them guards for false starting that to push.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, yeah, they called it.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
I'm like they've been doing it, yeah, been jumping the snap.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah they got an eye on it.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
That absolutely m oh joe.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Three of the sloppiest wins quarters in recent football college history,
followed by an incredible dramatic fourth quarter it looked like
taxas say, and then was going to force overtime or
score and potentially go for two like we saw with
the Seattle Seahawks due on Thursday night. Yes, but bright
Fitzgerald picked off Marcel Reid and the ends on with
twenty three seconds left of Miami's defensive linement. Ruben Bain
(36:55):
Junior put together performance for the age. Bane had four
tackles for losses three SAT and they blocked field goal. Uh,
you know, just getting he's the best college for He's
the best D lineman that I've seen this. Yes, but hey,
maybe there's there's some other guys out there. Oh, you're
the only thing with Marshall role that you cannot throw.
You gotta throw that guy open. There was a window
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you would lay.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, super late, super late, Hey, super l trying to
aim it and obviously when you're that close, when you're
that when you're that close to the end zone, but
you gotta let that ball go early because you're running
out of god damn real estate. Not only not only
not early, you throwing the ball behind him anyway, So
it make it that it make it that easier for
the for the young freshman who had a second pick
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of the day to send you home in the game,
it was. It was a defensive game today, Unk. It
was a defensive game with plays being made and sprinkled out.
Malakai Tony, Well, he's special, Unk. They called him down
here at the crib.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Unk.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
We call him baby Jesus. We call him Baby Jesus
for a reason. Man, listen, he was special. I was
kind of up. I was kind of sad for him
when he fumbled the ball. He fumbled the ball, then
went to the sideline, had his head down and seeing
his teammates Mark Mark Fletcher, Man Mark Fletcher was toting
that rock today. Yunk was toting that rock today. Year
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seventeen carried for one seventy two, and I had a
lot of people say, well, hell, if the Hurricanes were
running the ball like that, why didn't you just do
that the entirety of the game, just keep running the
ball until they stop it.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Man Carson back, Hey.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
He had he ain't had that kind of he had
that kind of year, that kind of game was. It
was bad.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Uh, he did the right thing getting up out of Georgia.
You're gonna be on the bench behind Stoptor.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
You think so.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Hell yeah, hell yeah. Those two interceptions really really killed him.
I mean texting them. They really couldn't run the football.
They had thirty five rushes on you for eighty nine yards.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah yeah, uh me.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
But it was a defensive game. Yeah, you're sprinkling some drops,
just you know, fumble here. Miami came to play in
a hostile environment. You know, I think Miami's office is
kind of challenged because of the quarterback play. I think
they got some skill position players that can play uh
(39:25):
ten to three. But they got it right, They got
it right. I think Miami deserved to be there, Yes,
they got Who does Miami? Miami play Ohio State?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Ohio State. Listen, they're gonna have to come to the party.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Man, Okay, we're gonna talk about this a little later.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
O Yo.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Oregon beat James beat James Madison, beat the breaks off them.
That wasn't even interesting. So Oregon is at plays Texas Tech.
Alabama plays Indiana, Old Miss plays Georgia. This was a
game that went down to the wire earlier this year.
Old Mess was in control of this game and Georgia
came back and won. And do you play Ohio State?
Speaker 3 (40:06):
So, uh hey, are you and you can't play like this,
uh against Ohio State, they can't play like this offensively,
not gonna happen. Carson, Carson back, where you got a
you got.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Because Ohio State got a defense. Boy, they get appier,
they got they got some guys gonna go hide in
the draft. They get appier. They can get after Carson
Banks will have to have to play the game of
his life because I don't know. I don't know. And
Miami has a great defense. You don't don't. Yeah, they play,
They're here for a reason. We're not selling them short,
but they Ohio State has an offense. The question is
(40:48):
Carson Beckett quarterback. Can he crack Ohio State's defense?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I mean, you know what you know? For Carson beck honestly,
it makes it easy because he has a receiving cause
to do that. He has a supporting cast. I mean
you you know the comparison people say Carnell Taitan and
Jeremiah Smith. There's nothing like that there over there at
m But youim they got some homegrown boys that's straight
here from Dade County. Yeah, that can play some ball.
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They can protective, but that that too because.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
I don't come up about your receivers.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Your offensive line can't hold up because the Ohio State
got some guys get can get out of the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Absolutely, absolutely, it's gonna be a good one. It's gonna
I just know offensively, them boys gonna have to show up,
all of them.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, but this game, I mean Texas A and them.
I mean they let the they let the they let
they lose the Texas, you know, last game of the
season and now miss an opportunity to go to the
SEC championship game and then they lose. Look, there's a
lot to be proud of, but there's a lot there's
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some disappointment because you never want to lose your last
last two games, and they didn't play their best football.
Marcel Reeves got to do a better job of throwing
the football. I don't know what he's gonna do. I
don't know if he's coming back. He probably could use
another year in college if he has it. Ocho, Yeah,
he got to do a better job. You got to
have better anticipation because, as Ocho said, when the feeling
is condensed, you got to realize where do you think
(42:12):
the guy's going?
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Everything, everything snees up for.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I'm just saying that window was open.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
You got to throw him, throw him and let him
go get to the ball, because if you even if
even if you're not that far behind him, you're gonna
give the dB a chance because he can't backpedal out
of the end zone.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
What do you think he's going?
Speaker 3 (42:30):
And I can't. I can't remember to say. He's name
the young freshman. And he played it so well too,
just just the rout in general, how he said his
feet in the ground, He didn't back up anywhere. He
held his ground and broke right on it.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
He broke.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
He can't because if I if I stand right where
I am, you're gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Run over me or go behind me, one or the other.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
If I backpedal, I'm gonna be out the end zone
and you cut across my face. So I ain't. I'm
already eight yards deep in the ends. One. Where do
I need to go?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
It's not a field play where you have to get
some depth. Company might throw them all over your head.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
You have no choice. Yeah, all over your head.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
They're gonna be in love it.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah, he played it. He played it really well.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
He played he played it. He played it perfect. He
played it perfect. But the U moves on take on
Ohio State. Uh old Miss beat to Lane forty one ten.
Oh Joe, I know Tulane, but a Old Miss team
looked very good today. Lane Kiffin made two hundred and
(43:38):
fifty thousand dollars even though he's not coaching. Uh Look,
I thought Lane allowing some of the coaches that he
took with him to go back there and coach to
help Pete Golden, who's the defensive coordinator. The question is
(44:00):
before we talk about this game, if they win the
national championship, does Lane get a national championship ring on you?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Absolutely? Absolutely, because he was he was a party of Ysten,
heyy listen, he was, he was a part. He was
he's a reason and he was a part of that
team just before leaving. It was a huge part of
their success, huge part of their success. And and I
mean you remember, you got to remember who they playing today.
On you got you got to remember who they were
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playing to say nothing, to clap about nothing, to be
to who you know, be be excited about. I call
it that would be a tune up game for what's
real and for what's to come. That ain't about nothing.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Ah, try to dad Chamblers two one touchdown. Austin Simmons
came in, played well, he plumbled the ball right before
the half, but they about to get points out of that.
That ran the ball thirty four times for a buck
fifty one t one Lacy fifteen.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Here's eighty seven yards.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
I mean, oh joe, they scored with like if it's
like three plays with fifty seconds.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah, game was over.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
It wasn't even I mean, look, you could just see
the difference. You know, my grandfaces always say, boy, just
because you got the fastest dunky, that don't mean you
deserve an invite to Kentucky Derby. Now got a fast
ass donkey. Yeah, Tulaine got a good teach, but ain't
need to play. Tulane should have been playing James Madison
in the boat.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Now that's a that's a good match. That would have
been a good game because at.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
No point in time did anybody think Tulane was gonna
beat it in this ball game. Nobody thought that the
same thing with James Madison. It's called the thirty four
to six. At the half game was over and we
were gonna look at it.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Man, that game was it? You know it wasn't. No,
it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
That wasn't even closed. They gotta come up to the system.
They gotta come up with Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt Texas would have
been better in this. You know, the same mens know
the name till they get in the conversation. They did
the right They stay y'all ass on crying, we ain't
going to a bowl game, and ain't nobody missing you?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
But uh, forty one to ten.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Forty one.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Oh Joe, you knew that was gonna happen, though, anybody
that understands what.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Everybody knew that was happening, except the committee. Okay, if
they're top ten, okay, oh Joe, we put them in.
But come on, now, come on there, y'all know, y'all
know this is not the same. Now, y'all know James
Madison in Tulane doesn't have the same caliber player.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
It's old missing the Oregon So what did you expect
to happen?
Speaker 3 (46:36):
I mean, listen, they understood what was gonna happen. They
understood what's gonna happen. But they were deserving based on
what they did throughout the season.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Oh Joe, you got to look at who they're playing. Okay,
if you put Tulane in the SEC, you think they're
gonna have this record, well they're gonna be overh okay,
you put them into Big ten, they're.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Gonna have this record.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
They might go find honey.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Propable opponents you playing.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Come on now, yeah, I'm listening. I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
When you're right.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna hug
at the point I'm witching when you're right.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
And it's a great story. It is.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Hey, we went to the college football playoffs one year
and you can still recruits that. But after this ass
whipping y'all took, it's gonna be hard for y'all to
get back in there again. You're gonna need to be
You're gonna probably need to be uh thirty. Can you
want lost three games? So the lost fister one today.
So you came in eleven to two. You're gonna need
to be thirteen to know you're gonna have to be
in the top ten. We can't be putting teams in like,
come on, now, come on, we got to be real
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about this. There's a there there and y'all are okay,
if Tulane if y'all schedule one of these SEC teams,
because I think they played the Old Miss. Didn't they
play the Old Miss this year? I think it was
the second time they played Old Miss them forty five
(48:00):
ten in the regular season. Yeah, okay, now they beat
them forty one to ten.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Hey, so they beat you. They beat you eighty six
to twenty two times.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Hey, that's like it's like you get beat up, You
go home and you tell your momy you had to fight.
You got beat up, and she sent you back at
the house. Go back and fight me.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Do you whip you ass again?
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Whoop you ass again? Nah?
Speaker 1 (48:22):
You the a?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
He beat you so bad, saying you don't go out
there and you fight him. You don't fight him, You're
gonna have to fight me. Well, Mama, I'm gonna have
to whip you though that did you told me up?
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Mama? You got to take it? Hey?
Speaker 3 (48:37):
That's hell boy?
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Yeah, I mean, what come, I get it? Like you know,
there's like, okay, we gotta find ways for this for
the I guess like a mid major. They're not a
mid major, O Joe. But I'm saying they're not a part.
There's there's levels to this. There's levels.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah it is, and listen, oh yo, just because look
the committee knows that. They know that, so I'm not listen.
I'm not sure how the voting goes. I'm not sure
who those are that control the voting. But they saw
fit to allow two Lane to be in. They saw
fit to allow James Madison to be in.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Well, rolled the hell out that wave. You know, they
rolled the hell out that wave. I mean they that
supposed to be that wave, and the old miss that
you know, they ain't got nowhere to be riding no
waves in no Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
I get getting the dirty as the Mississippi River. But anyway,
Old Miss rolled the hell out that green wave. Look,
you got some nice gifts. I wonder what the gift
bag was. You probably got some headphones and nice and
some nice gear and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
You got a little check, got a little check too, right, Yeah, huh.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
I guess they. I'm sure they do. I'm sure they
got a little money. They probably get fit. They probably
got a fousand dollars fifteen hundred. And you have the
local barbers, the local barbers in Mississippi come cut the
teams here and everything like that. That's what they normally do. Ojo.
That's it. Yeah. I mean you can get your nice
get your nice temper fade or whatever you want to do.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
You got I guess you got braids. They'll have people
come braid your hair. But this, come on, man, and
I listen. I'm not saying that couldn't happen to a
Power five team. I'm not saying I guess the Power
four is not. But anyway, I'm not saying that that
can't happen. But when you look at but look at
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the Power five and people, I know everybody's gonna say, well,
look what Georgia did.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
The TCU. TCU kicked Michigan ass to get there.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yeah, if Taulane had to beat Alabama or Vanderbilt or
Texas or Texas Tech, you know somebody, Ohio State, sign.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Me up, you got your boy?
Speaker 3 (50:56):
It may it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah, man, you can't be beating the teams like that. Man.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
But uh, and that's the thing I'm it'd be interesting
to see. I didn't I didn't hear it because well,
coach Sable was on it. They had been interested. What
did coach Saban have to say? Did you hear what
he had to say, oh, Joe, because I'm sure he was,
because he wasn't. He wasn't too pleased to begin with.
He's like, because the level of competition that you played
and to get this invite, I think he compared I
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think I read he compared it to a minor league team,
a Triple A team winning a bunch of games and
getting the opportunity to play for the World Series, getting
the opportunity to go to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
And you know, the big guy.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
But weight classes, there's a reason why we have all
these things. There's a difference, and just because you're good,
that doesn't mean you're the best at it. So oh man,
they're eleven and two, okay. And in regardless, you think
that you think Tulane is better than than than Vanderbilt,
you think you think Delane is better than Tennessee Texas.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
No, absolutely no, Listen, there's a reason they have way classes.
Like you said, also, in college football, there's there's levels,
there's levels. There's levels to it, and you see the
discrepancy and the difference in levels when you have some
of the smaller schools playing some of the bigger schools
regards to what your record shows the play is different,
(52:25):
the skill gap is different, the quality of players you
get is different.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah, and it showed there's a reason why the SEC
and the Big Ten put more players in the NFL
than any other conference.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
Yeah, there's a reason why. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
If you just take the Big.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Ten and you take the SCC, and you take all
the other conferences, you take the ACC, you take the
Big Twelve, you take the Sunbelt, you take the A, A, C,
you take whatever, they still don't because when you look
at it, I mean they putting forty guys. They're putting
forty guys, the instance putting forty guys, the big team
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putting thirty five forty guys.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
That's crazy a year. Come on, man, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
In Texas, I'm sure Sark is like, man, these jokers
got an opportunity to get their ass kicked. Texas was
playing good at the right time, Vanderbilt playing good at.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
The right time. Time.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Timing is everything.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Oregon Blast James madisonbody scored fifty one to thirty four.
James Madison Duke's making their playoff debut, played well, played
well on offense the game five hundred nine yards and
scored thirty four points despite leaving a couple of points
on the board.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
This game wasn't even close.
Speaker 3 (53:50):
No, not at all. And listen, don't don't don't let
the end the end game or the end score for
you now was.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
Thirty four to six at the half yep I said that, like, well,
how much more of this game do I need to watch?
They talking about? Man, go watch go go watch the Bears, Packers, Lebrono,
the Laker game by the cop right, I mean, at.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
One point, wasn't it forty eight?
Speaker 2 (54:15):
It was forty eight to something, forty eight though twenty three,
forty eight to twenty something.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. I mean, there's
no there's no way, there's no way that James Madison,
they don't they don't. They ain't got enough rocks in
their back pocket. Even even heat with organ on. It's
not even fair. But one, as you know, games have
won and lost right up front. Yeah, that alone right there.
You don't have a chance. You don't have a chance.
(54:44):
That's that's all that was was a tune up game.
You know, I box boxes have two enough fights and
most of the time you have a tune up fight.
Is somebody that they know you are better than and
all you're doing, you're trying, You're just working on your stuff.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
That's all it was.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
I mean you look at that, what fifty one to
thirty five? So people look at that like man, and
they had five hundred yards of offense. Man, I think
so out today's like, look, let's not get anybody hurt, right,
got we got a game next week or in two
weeks or.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Whenever they play. But it's a I don't know.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
Committee, y'all gott to rethink how y'all do things. And
I understand, take the twelve best teams. Take the twelve
best teams, not necessarily twelve highest ranked team you think so, committee,
can you honestly say that James Madison and Tulane are better,
are better than Texas Vanderbilt and know to Dame, I
(55:50):
ain't got no love lost for no today?
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Do it?
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Do you actually believe that James Madison and Tulane are
better than the three teams I just mentioned?
Speaker 3 (56:01):
No, absolutely not. And the people that the people that
are part of the committee, they know that. But the
criteria that they judge on that they base everything off
of on who gets in and who doesn't. I mean
the criterias was messed up because the ain't no where
in hell, ain't nowhere in hell. James Madison, organ like,
(56:21):
come on now, come on now, old Lane, I mean Tulane, old,
come on now. You had better team that could have
been in regards to what it regards to whether they
had two or three losses or not. You know, that
would have given us better games to watch. It would
have been better competition.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
And Texas is a bigger draw than James Madison or
Tulane Van the Bilt would have been bigger. A draw
not to Dame would have been a bigger draw. Because
you said it's about money.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
This is this was this was. They missed on this, Joe, Yeah,
they did. They missed on this one. They definitely need
to do a better job because this was a oh
my goodness. I don't really know what to say. I mean, oh, Joe,
(57:17):
I can't, I can't.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
I mean, how many people do you think turn the
game at halftime thirty four to six? What about watching?
Speaker 1 (57:25):
What about?
Speaker 3 (57:26):
What?
Speaker 1 (57:26):
What do I hope this is gonna happen?
Speaker 3 (57:31):
I mean, people, man, that this the only people that
are watching.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Honestly, Yeah, they put them there's a reason why ESPN
passed those games of T and T.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
It ain't no accident. It is not an accident. It's
I don't know, chat, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
I'm sorry guys that you had to watch James Madison
and and congratulations to those schools. Hey, it's a hell
of an accomplishment. It's a hell of an accomplishment. But
it's just like, Oh Joe, with the HBC used and
you win your tournament and you get guess who they
give you. They give you Duke digging your North Carolina,
they give you Kansas, they give you Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (58:25):
Mm hm, hey bet it, bet it. Better put your
big boy bridges on. That's goodball, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
Adam Schefter just giving us an update on T J.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
Watt After missing two games due to a partially collapsed lung,
wats return to play remains murky and uncertain. Wat's focus
has been getting on getting healthy from his partially collapsed
lung returning to play as secondary and he's not, and
that's not been its focus. Darkness will assess how he
feels next to see if there's even a chance to
play in week seventeen, but ideally what gets more time
(59:05):
to recover from his lung injury that resulted in him
being ruled out Sunday game versus Detroit. Pittsburgh has got
their fingers cross saying I hope he don't see.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Us, and knowing knowing him, I don't really see.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
Plus they got they gave him money. They ga him
a hundred and what one hundred and eight hundred and
nine million dollars fully guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
He's straight good.
Speaker 3 (59:26):
He's good because it's.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
The same thing that happened to remember Taylor the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
The Chargers had some some rib issues in the preseason.
He got it, got a thing and jack Dad and
they approached his lung. He sued him. If I'm not mistaking,
I think he won. Don't quote well that I believe
it is by what I've read that you know he
had he did file a suit. Can we look that
up to make sure, because I did think he filed
a suit.
Speaker 3 (59:52):
Hey, just a just thinking about that needle going through
the skin now, that don't bother me. That don't bother
me at all. Because I had to get shot up
at halftime because I was cramping in my calf. The
only thing that bothers me and is cringey. Is the
fact that them going in the ribs and then actually
puncturing the lung. That's the part that doesn't sit well
(01:00:13):
with me. Cause you got you uncle, what you say
when you do dry kneedling, they got to move it around.
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
What dry kneeling is that they're trying to you know,
they're trying to get blood flow in there. And then
you know it's kind of like, I mean, you see
you seen James Harrison get all those acupunctures where he's
looking like pin head, He's got his whole back, his legs, ass,
calves everything.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I wouldn't know. I wasn't no, I wasn't no big
fan of acupuncture. I did it one time.
Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Man, that thing hurt worse than the needles then getting injected.
I was like, noah, no more of this for me.
I'm good cuz is that bad for me?
Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
For me? Now?
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Some people say it didn't bother them, but and I
was like I did. I like, I'm good, Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
But I want to see what that's like.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Uh. I think it's gonna be very hard. I think
more probably more probable than not that all things being equal,
o Joe. If the Pittsburgh Steelers make the playoffs, I
think that's probably when we'll see JJ because that Lung's
gonna have to inflate back up.
Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Yeah, I just don't like the way that sound. Yeah, okay, okay,
Hong shit long.
Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
So well, I guess they're saying that he got his salary. Yeah,
so that's why you know it's going to trial. But
he said, well, I had him sent this too. I
could have I could have reached because that's when they
had drafted Justin Herbert and he was gonna be the starter.
But he gets hurt. Justin Herbert plays out of his
(01:01:58):
mind's rookie of the Year because Herbert and and and
Chase came in the same year. Yeah, so he's like,
I could have played and potentially got more, uh as
a starter somewhere else he should have suited for more.
Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
But hey, they'll figure it out.
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