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a blowout early turned into a very very interesting game.
The Falcons hold on and win twenty seven to twenty four.
Three Matthew Stafford interceptions was the big reason why Vjon
Robinson had himself a night Tonight. Twenty two carries a
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he had a touchdown rushing and a touchdown receiving, and
that was enough as they take those three turnovers, turn
them into points and they win twenty seven to twenty four.
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Speaker 1 (03:17):
Guys, the night the game that you watched, the night
that Atlanta Falcons pulls off a Shoka with a twenty
four to twenty one victory over.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
The Los Angeles Ram.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
But it was Bjon Robinson that had himself a Knight,
and he showed you why he's going to the Pro Bowl.
There's a great chance he's gonna be a first team
All Pro because the way he can start stop on
a dime.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Hell O, yo, I thought he was four to four.
That ain't.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
No four to four could do? Wint got it? Can
he should have had two ninety y'all?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
And then before you before you go talking about the game,
I want to talk about Bejon real quick and how
specially and when I look at in NFL history all
the running backs that had the agility, the quickness, the
ability to the jump cut, jump start, come to balance
and reaccelerate again, I can only think of four who
who looked like Bijon Robinson. I think of Barry Sanders
(04:04):
for one. I'm not saying any Barry Sanders. I'm talking
about his style the way I'm not seeing Barry Sanders.
We got Lashawn McCoy. Yes, we got Marshall Faulk and
we got Bjon. Now, for those in the chat that
watch football understand what I'm talking about. I'm not saying,
I'm not comparing these players at all. I'm saying the
styling play in which they run the ball and the
(04:24):
abilities that they have but they had the ball in
their hands are damn they're similar.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
He definitely reminds me more of Leshan McCoy. Barry was
more of a two foot jump stop guy and keep going.
I mean, if you look at bad, I mean, I've
never I've never seen a guy and you'll probably never
see another guy that can do with Barry.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I mean his joints.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I'm surprised he ain't got hit replacement and double knee
and double hip replacement, Joe, because you've never seen a
guy that can start and stop. I'm talking about he hopped,
stopped with both feet, shimmy, and then take off running again.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
He was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But Bjon Robinson, boy boy, boy boy, you beast shot.
I mean, but he reminds you. Let me tell you
why he looks like Barry, because Barry can take a
five yard loss and you forget that it was a loss.
You like, man, he shook six people, Yeah, but he
lost five yard.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Don't worry about that. Don't he worry about that. It's
second to fifteen.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I know, but you see all those guys laying on
the ground, he shook them. And that's what bijon, bijon,
I mean that thirty one yard run on Joe. Three
guys had him Dann right what verse I think actually
had him pulling him down.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And how he get out of that, I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
But they didn't win this ball game tonight, twenty seven
to twenty four. B Jon Robinson twenty two carres above
ninety five to one score and he also had a
receiving touchdown in the first quarter of the ball game.
And they took an early twenty one to nothing lead,
built that lead to twenty four to three. But the
Rams come all the way back. They get a touchdown
past to Ferguson, they get a block kick, they scored
(06:00):
a field goal, well they scored the field goal first,
and then they get the touchdown to Ferguson. Then they
get the block kick, and then they get the jet
screen to a Pooka who gets the ball into the
end zone. But the Falcons go down the field bleed
the clock almost been.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
A great catch by Pooker that was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Because it looked like a oh joey really until they
when the ball actually came a loose from it looked
like a catch.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
It did it did? Poo poo poo. Man. Listen, he's
been making some unbelievable plays.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
He been making some catches and that would have been
a dope catch for him to come up with that one.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
But I mean, the ram did this to the cell phone. Now,
listen to the.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Offense that we've seen play all year long, putting up
thirty damn there, thirty thirty five game every They just
weren't clicking on. They just weren't clicking tonight offensively, and
Matt didn't make it any easy he did making eensier
throwing Helly had what uh what three picks? He had
five interceptions all season long, and he comes in tonight
and he has.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Three those three.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And look the he overshot, he overshot and base the
third got him runs it backboard pick. But the three
by two, Oh joe, he passed off three and jumps too.
We just talked about that last week. The guy jumped,
passed off too, and jump one. So we see that
that is a very common thing. They're like, bro, they're
not throwing you ball they looking to throw the ball.
(07:22):
They're trying to get me up out of there so
they can throw in behind me. I'm gonna pass that off.
Let the safety worry about that, and he did. Thirty
one made a great play. He had two picks tonight
which were outstanding. Yeah, but you said that, o Jo.
The Rams don't have anybody to blame but themselves. And
it's kind of hard to like, no matter what, we're
the fifth or the sixth seed. You know what I'm saying, Ocho,
(07:45):
is not like we can't we can't win the division.
We can't get a home game. So oh well, it
is what it is. But you never know. I mean, hey,
the seventh seed might make it, and there so the fifth,
the fifth or sixth seed, and you do get a
home game, so you never know what could happen. But
the Falcons and I told you, I said, oh yo,
the Falcons defense better than your Fagan, They better you.
(08:06):
I say, they can gay Floyd and Pierce. They can
get after you. Ellis, I like that linebacker. I said,
they can get after people. Remember how they made Josh Allen. Look,
didn't they beat the Buffalo Bills thirty to nothing?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Absolutely Hey and that the back in the backing is
really good too.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Aj Terrell Ajterrell played really well. You got base the third,
uh Xavier Watts had an outstanding game. They played. They
played really well today, Uh, oh jo. They called holding.
That wasn't look I think they ended up scoring anyway,
But that wasn't no holding. The linel was going down
the left tackle go ahead and throws him down the
(08:41):
nickel because Pooker made a great you know, that was
a long touchdown pass day.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I think they ended up scoring on that drive anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
But this was a game and Zaying Gonzales made a
fifty one yard field goal with twenty five seconds left,
which turned out to beat the game winner. The Rams
will get the number five seed in the NFC if
they win against which is a home game, and the
forty nine Ers lose to the Seahawks. If the Rams
lose to the Cardinals or the forty nine Ers beat
(09:09):
the Seahawks, the Rams would get the six seed. That
might not be a bad idea because you get an
opportunity to play the Uh the Eagles. The Eagles are
not as not as vaunted as they were last year.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
They're not clicking on all similar seventeen total yards in
the second half. I think Jalen Hurts had two yards
in the second I don't think he completed the pass
in the second half.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Looked at him. I don't think he completed the pass
in the second half. O't Joe.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I think I think that would be a good matchup,
especially in favor of the Rams, the Rams being able
to score it. Well for the back it would be
a good thing because the Eagles defense, the Eagle will
show Yes, now what what portion of what part of
the Eagles offense?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So we're going to get that game?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Are they going to give us a portion of their
office that we just saw this previous weekend?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Then they going home, They going home early.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Well, Devonte will be back. You forgot Davante being gone
the last two games, and he looked good. I mean
he was warming up on the field. That kept him down. Yeah,
so there's a chance that they keep him. They keep
him out one more time and give him another week.
So I'm assuming that when he gets back. Now, the
thing is, oh, jo, you know, hamstrings, they like warm weather.
(10:19):
They don't really like the cold. You're going outside in
Philly's and maybe that storm that hit the Northeast, hit
New York and Philly and upstairs, you know all that area.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Maybe that's blown over.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
By that time, by the time they get there, it
wasn't two in two weeks. Maybe that storm is gone
and another one won't blow back in. But uh yeah,
I thought the Falcons played really good, that they Cousins
didn't have to do a whole lot. He was thirteen
to twenty one, twenty six, one touchdown but b Jon Robinson.
They had thirty three carries to nineteen and a touchdown
(10:50):
and the one touchdown to b Jon Robinson. But Bijeon
was sensational to day that. I mean, what can you saying.
I'm glad people get an opportunity to see him. He's been
a couple of national televised games, but you get an
opportunity to see one of the better backs in the league,
and you see how he can catch the ball, he
can run it, and TV you know if I'm teams,
(11:13):
but I'm scary, I'm afraid don't show that he might
slip because I really want to blitz him and make
him stay and blocked.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
But just my look, I bless him and he slip
out the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah, it's one of the few players you don't want
to see in space.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Nov So.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Obviously Karen Williams ran the ball. He had thirteen carries
for ninety two yards. Didn't have nearly enough. They had
twenty rushes one to fifteen. But because they fell behind
by so much, it kind of neutralized the running game.
They went back to it, but not nearly as enough
as Sean McVay would like to call the running game
because he likes to do a lot of play action
(11:55):
off of the running game All Lah Kyle Shanahan in
the San Francisco forty nine, and they do a lot
even when they go in motion and they insert the
wide receivers. A lot of times those wide receivers looking
to run cross the routes or they're looking to run
the sail routes. And because you see most times when
people motion the wide receiver in and he leads up.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Inside it like oh, here come the run block.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
But they'll fake it and then all of a sudden
he'll go to the far across or he'll go to
the seven. Yeah, but they didn't get an opportunity to
do a lot of that to night because they fell
behind by so much. They turned them all over Atlanta
Capital lives on it. But uh, this get I am
so glad to fire because one because this thing would
have been real a mister Blank would have been very
disappointed with Ryan.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Absolutely, it's it's it's unfortunate obviously that the head coach
is responsible for losses like that, when when the onus
is on the players. You know, all the coach you
can do is they can coach, they can go through
the exit and o's they can get a game plan,
they can get the scheme. They can tell you what
we need to do.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
You know, and and it's up to you. It's up
to you to execute it.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And when mistakes are made on the field, it's sad
that you know, the responsibility is on the coach when
it's actually the player that makes that makes those mistakes.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
That that's the part that sucks.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
They get they get they get a lot of credit
when things go well, far maybe far too much credit,
and when things go bad, they get too much of
the blame. But at the end of the day, I
try to put you in the best position that I
possibly can. Now it's left up left up to you
to go execute those but you know they're foul because
they're still fighting hard. Now you look at them, like, bro,
(13:34):
the way y'all play, it ain't no way y'all should
be under five hundred.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Y'all should have been so the last weekend should have
come down to you guys and and and Carolina and
Tampa for the division, not just now. You guys are player.
You know A want to finish out strong B eighty nine. Nah,
y'all too. They got they got too much talent on
show you. I mean when you look at them, look
at b Jon Robinson. Now year you look at the
receivers of Mooney and Robinson and County Drake London, David Sills,
(14:02):
the fifth uh stepped up tonight. They got too much
talent on the offensive side of football. And that defense
isn't bad. There is a bad they can get after
the quarterback. I lo like Lennon Floyd. I always thought
he was good. I like Piers Ellis, the linebacker's really good.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
They got a J. Terrell, they got good player.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
If if I misster Blank, if I'm mister blank, I'm
giving Raheem an ultimatum, make the playoffs, say you got
to go.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's really that simplow Joe, damn.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah, yeah, on which when you're right on which, when
you're right, this is this is right? He third year? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Uh, it's his second year in it?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Is it third or second? Because didn't they take it?
Might be a third year old, j if I'm not mistaken,
this is the second year, because I remember they took
they took Pennick Jr. Last year, which was his first year, right, right,
(15:03):
But you look at what they got. They got aj Terrell,
they got Jesse Based third, Lennard Floyd Piris Junior. They
got some guys. Those interior guys are really good. They're
not in the names like a Jeffrey Simmons. They're not
a name like a Chris Jones. They're not a name
like that. But they're solid players.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah in that division, oh Joe, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You gotta make the playoffs in that division because they
ain't No, ain't no hell Raisers in that division. There's
some solid teams, but they're not. There are no there
are no Rams in that division. There are no Seahawks
in that division. There are no forty nine ers in
that division. There are no Eagles in that division. There's
no Chicago or the Green Bays.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
In that division.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Nah, that's that's one of the week of divisions in football.
And I expect better than what I got this year.
At some point in time, Ojoe, we can't keep kicking
this thing down the road and say next year and
next year and next year.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
You got enough. He's given you enough now to go
make it thay happen.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Definitely have enough to compete and compete. Definitely got another.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So it's gonna be very interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
The forty nine ers, the forty nine ers, if they
beat Seattle, they're the number one seed. Seattle wins, Seattle's
the one seed. Those are the only scenarios. Those are SiO.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Good thing about those scenarios. Either way or go. I'm
in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Well, if the Bears hold on, if the Eagles win
and the Bears lose, the Eagles will go to the
two slot, the Bears will fall down to the three slot,
and the winner of the NFC South will be in
the four slot.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So there's still very much there's still a lot to play.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
For, There's still a lot on the line, and it's
gonna be very very interesting to see what transpires. Who
the Eagles got the Commanders. Eagles got the command the
Cowboys got.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
The should be easy out. I don't mean to be
respectful who the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It should be easy.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Out, you know now?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I remember they ran the score up on them. They
say we got something for y'all. We see y'all a
couple of weeks. Now what they say on y'all, I.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Don't know that.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Listen. I know one thing.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
We can have the bottom of the offense fall out
like it did last week.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
We can't have that.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
We can't have we can't buy week. But anyway, you
can't go into a second half of seventeen yards of offense.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
You're not gonna win that game. You can't do it.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, cause you definitely want to be playing your best
football going towards the playoff momentum.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
You need that momentum going into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, yes, I agree. I definitely agree with you.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
But the Falcons win, Uh, they get an opportunity to
close out the season on a positive note, if they
can go, if they can beat.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
They got New Orleans, right, Yeah, they got New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
They hate New Orleans, hate them, and they hate New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
The fans hate each other.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
He O Joe, you would think that this is Baltimore, Pittsburgh,
or this is uh the Cowboys commanders. It used to
be uh, you know, the derogatory term the Eagles Giant.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You would think it was one of those O.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yo, it's bad. Got understand, and I'm just finding out
about it.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
I'm just finding out about it, you know, trying to
try to trying to have everybody come together and have
a kom by y'all moment, you know, a great game,
having the Saints fans and Falcons fans sit together and
enjoy the game as one man. They told me, fuck, wait.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
A minute, and they wasn't. They weren't very hospitable when
when hurricane control to.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Get either, they wasn't. They wasn't.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
That's what they like. Don't break your hands up here,
go down to Houston, to go to gow, go somewhere.
They come here.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I said, come on, bad, we can y'all can resume
that of a later day time. No, it's always it's
been that, it's always gonna be.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I would love to know.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I would love to know the backstory on why the
hatred is the way it is. I understand if it's
you know, it's a division game. You have you you
have your teams that you love, but it's a it's
a it's a real hate. When I talk to all
Saints faces like there's don't like not damn what happened?
I need, I need the backstory on why it really
(19:21):
is like that.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh Joe, do you think they could have called that?
Because to me it wasn't arm bar offered.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
You can't do that now when you're hand fighting's okay,
but you behind, if you're hide your start even in
your hand fighting, that's one thing that's that's fair. You
have an opportunity to make a play for the ball,
but knowing that you're behind, and the only way what
you can do is it's almost it's almost a betteran
move too, uncle. You grab it is you hold one
hand down the best way, the best way you can.
(19:55):
But it's hard for the rep who's it's hard.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
For the rep whose body is being blocked by the
receiver to see it that But guess who's not blocked.
That back judge, the side judge might not can see it,
but there's a back judge up under the gold post.
That's far enough fact that he can see it, or
you can see it.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Hell, yeah, you can see.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I think he blocked. I think he blocked off on.
I think because you got a thing where to with
the way to.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Was going on the deep ball, the ball was over
his over uh of.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
His inside outside I know it was over outside shoulder.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
It was like, I mean, the ref K, the ref
K see what's going on on the other side.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Think about it.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
If I'm going like this, I'm coming towards you and
I reached. He's got my left R opinion. So theoretically,
if the if the side judge is blocked, there's the
bat judge.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Right there, and you know what the side judge is
he all the way down the field too. Can't you
even see that? I don't even think the side judge
got a visual.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
He should because they'd be throwing flags out of nowhere
from somewhere some of somebody be having yellow flags let'st
in the stands.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But it was great And I'm not so sure, Ojo
had he caught it, because there was ten seconds on
the clock. I'm not so sure, Ojo. They could have
got everybody to the line and killed it to get
a chance to get a ball.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Get out the timeouse already. Yeah, it was out of time.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I don't know, Joe, if they could have got down
there in ten seconds them lineman, hold on.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
That's another thing the NFL might need to go back.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Why don't you allow people to at least get themselves
set before you start?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And now they ain't got nothing to do with me.
I'm let that clock run, TI.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
You said, at least give a team opportunity to get
to the ball once the referee says the ball, and
then let the clock go.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
The clocks going regardless. See, you try to get the
old college rules.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
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(22:22):
and everybody saw it. And Matthew Stafford everybody saw the
three interceptions, so a less something. And I'm trying to think,
who did the Jets play the Dolphins just played No,
I mean, I mean the Patriots play the Dolphins played Itdolphin. Yeah,
(22:46):
the Bills got a bye week.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
You know what I did too yesterday.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I don't know what you do yesterday when we asked
about who would be the MVP, and I chose, I
chose to Stafford.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
But what Matt Stafford is doing, he's supposed to be
doing that. We've seen him that before.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
I want to make I want to change my pick,
and not because it's a nice performance, because I look
at the body of work that Drake May has put
over throughout the entirety of this season and how he's
put the Patriots on his back. And the reason, I mean, honestly,
the sole reason why they're in continent this year and
having a chance of going to the playoffs and playing
for Lombardi Trophy in absence of Tom Brady is because
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of him, Not because jos not because of Josh mcdame,
not because of Mike Vrabel, but Drake May. Because he's
the one has to make those decisions with the ball,
and he's done extremely well at protecting the ball and
making the most of all his opportunities.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, Yeah, he's played extremely well, but I think we can't.
We can't say enough about what Josh has done and
Josh ability to get on that wave length. He under
the quarterback, He understands the quarterback. He always plays to
his quarterback strength. We saw this where he had Tom Brady.
But and then you saw I think, I think, no,
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that's Bill O'Brien there because of what you coll him
had already left, Uh, Charlie Weiss, And I think Bill
O'Brien was there then. Wasn't Bill O'Brien the OC in
two thousand and eight when Matt Castle came in.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
After after Tom towards knee?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, I think Bill O'Brien was there. Yeah, he was,
because remember when they went to the Super Bowl and lost. Yeah, yeah,
Bill O'Brien was the head coach, wasn't he? I mean
the OC? Yeah, but you look at what he's been
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able to do with the quarter when he had Mac Jones.
Mac Jones looked really, really well, went to the Pro Bowl,
they went to the playoffs. Then all of a sudden, No,
it wasn't all of a sudden. Josh McDaniel's got the
head coaching job first Oakland and still instead of coach
Belichick hiring somebody because look, coach Belichick always keeps, he
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rarely goes outside. Normally, the people that he hires he
hires from the end. If you go back and study
his history, Bill O'Brien was already on the staff and
everybody that normally that he hires is already on his staff.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Rarely, rarely does he go outside.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
And that's why he had Matt Patricia and Joe Judge
take over the oc OC job when he should have
gone outside. If you didn't trust somebody that was already
on your staff, you can't hire. You can't hire a
special teams coach and a defensive coordinator all of a
sudden to be co offensive coordinators and being a young
players there, you just can't do that. But Matthew Stafford, Yeah,
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he definitely hurt himself tonight. It reminds me of the
situation that Patrick Mahomes was was leading in the MVP
race and and they played the Atlanta Falcons and they won,
but Patrick Mahons did not play well and and Aaron
Rodgers through like three touchdowns and took over the lead
and he ended up winning the MVP. So we might
have a very very similar situation on our hands. Sixty
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three percent of the chat is taking Drake May for
the MVP, thirty percent is taking Matthew Stafford. O Jo,
an NFL agent, say the biggest story of the off
season could be the Ravens trading Lamar Jackson. The biggest
story in the off season is going to be Lamar.
That's going to be crazy. According to The Athletic, the
agent loved Minnesota as an under the radar destination.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The Vikings would send jj McCarthy, don't you do that?
We don't want They don't want him.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
As part of the deal, giving both quarterbacks a fresh start,
Jackson on artificial turf and.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
A dome lookout.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
McCarthy would Harbaugh work well, No, send him to San Diego.
If if Minnesota said, okay, if y'all want to trade it,
we'll send him, send him to his old court.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's that's John, That's not Jill.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
But anyway, Ojo, McCarthy with a Harball worked well in Michigan,
whereas the coach is gim not John.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
No ish.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Lamar being traded could be similar to the Mavericks trading
Luca Donget. The agent said, the Mavericks are were complaining
about Luca's toughness, taking care of his body work. At
Luca gets moved, he loses all that weight, he gets
in shape, and now he has a new lease on life.
Lamar might be the same. The key difference from Baltimore's
standpoint is that the Ravens, unlike the Mavericks, would be
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getting strong value in return.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
No, that not strong value. What struck man?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Y'all need to stop. At least Anthony Davis on Joe.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
At least Anthony Davis was an All NBA selection, an
All Defensive selection. He is a top seventy five player,
and he even won a championship. What the hell has
JJ McCarthy done in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I see you're going with that, Listen. I like the
move anytime.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I'll say this, I'll say this anytime their their rumblings,
their rumblings when it comes to a player of this magnitude,
that there's always a little truth to it. Yeah, you know,
where there's smoke, there's fire, you know. And if he's
gonna get traded, I mean, I like the destination of
Lamar actually coming home and and and the Dolphins being
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able to rebuild and doing what they need to do. Uh, Minnesota,
that's a nice destination as well. You pair your pear
god damn Lamar Jackson with one of the better receivers
in the league and in Justin Jefferson and Addison and Hockinson,
that would be oh hell no, that would almost be
unfair either way.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
But I don't want but I don't want J J.
McCarthy that people talk about, Oh that's great value.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That ain't no great value.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Who said it was a great value.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I guess the agent that's doing all this.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Talking don't know. He probably he probably needs his iron check.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
That's all. He needs iron check. But I don't I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But what I don't get, O Joe.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
He also said, and he finished up with this, if
Lamar were put on the block, even quietly, you are
to that that that that is not established at the quarterback,
you do whatever it takes to get him.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh Joe, they had an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Now there's no there, there's This is not to say
the Ravens wouldn't have matched, but he had a non exclusive.
You could have had Lamar Jackson for two first round
draft picks. You could have had him. Now again, that's
not to say the Ravens wouldn't have matched nobody. No,
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think about how many people needed quarterbacks three years ago.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
All these teams that have drafted.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Quarterbacks, whether it's Atlanta, whether it's Carolina, whether it's Houston,
whether it's the Saints, Uh, the Giants. I mean it's
a half of it's more than a half. The league
needed a quarterback and nobody took him. And he was
an League MVP at the time, So I'm comfused.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Regardless, Hu, he wasn't going to regardless, even if the
Ravens had the match, which is what they would have done.
He was Lamar Jackson was their identity. Lamar Jackson was
their team. He was the face of that franchise. There
was nowhere else they can go that would make a difference.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Can you imagine him in Atlanta on that turn in
that city? Oho, I.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Had to take my glasses off. Man. Listen, Hey, Breake London.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
With Jon Huh, with Kyle Pitts, with that, with that defense.
I'm not saying that the Eagle defense. I'm not saying
that the Bronco defense. But they're they're good enough.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I don't know, I don't know if they get Lamar,
they're gonna be able to get Bejon because they're probably
not going to be that bad to be able to ok.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
That age.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
So that would have been boy. Can you imagine him
in the backfield Lamar and b.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
John they think about them to run a RP O
Man stopped playing.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
But you know what I like Jon? I like Jean
is an eye back. If you notice most of his
stuff happened to die. If you go back and look
at if you look at Oho, you look at Saturday
the game, what formation did they have a king Henry?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
You were back there seven yards?
Speaker 5 (31:17):
He is on the line straight down hill with Pritchard,
with Pretcher right in front of him. Most of the time.
He like a Pretchell looking like looking like Lorenz O'Neill.
My bad, I said it wrong. Yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Hell, people don't realize he's three hundred pounds moving like that,
the four back ways three hundred.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Yes, hey don't hey he got Patrick. Yes, that's that's
a well put together three hundred. Because he don't look
nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I don't he don't.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
For sure he is here.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
They're throwing they don't really throw it to him.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
See, they don't use him like they use Caleus and
Sam Frank, Sam Frank. Hey, they'll throw They'll throw him
a screen, They'll throw him the ball down the field.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
He go down the field and catches like hold on,
how you get your you know.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
It's called count to a similar play we used to
call f to split where you know, to pull back,
fake it, get up the field and they throw it
to him behind the once the linebacker step up. But
they throw it the coleustchick going down the field. But look,
this is this might be.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
A lot of talk.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Like you said, oh Jo, there's a little truth even
in a lie, and maybe we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
We just know this. They're gonna have to do something.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
They're not going to let him play on that seventy
plus million dollar cap hit next year. They're going to
do something. This team is going to look different next
year than it does now. They've got to They've got it.
Is an absolute must. Other than getting Lamar Jackson contract
under control, whether you extend him or whatever, the games means.
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You've got to get past rushers. All you have to
do is look at last night's game, when they couldn't
get to the quarterback. You end up having a score
of forty two to three.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I got I got a question for you too.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
What if to be able to get the pass rushers,
what if you want to get the pieces that you
need to do and you you you end up letting
Lamar go somewhere else to have the cap.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Room to do just that.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
That defeat the purpose.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
But then that puts you further behind because then offensively,
where you go from there, exactly where you go from there,
because you're not going to get a quarter You're not
going to get another Lamar Jack.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Now, you're not gonna get an equal quarterback to.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Lamars because the ones that would be equal to that
are the league number one quarterbacks on other teams.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
They're dug in, They're not going anywhere. My problem is
is that the problem that I've had with this this
year's team is that Deck Henry should have had damn
near nineteen hundred yards.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Again, Yeah, he ain't that fault.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Look at when they give him the football twenty to twenty.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
The man carried it thirty six times and he wasn't tired.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
No, you do real oh, Joe, you do realize he's
like thirty plus yards away from fifteen hundred. Yeah, and
people like, oh, he had a quiet think about it.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
He was.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
He was like seventy yards away, almost eighty yards away
from two k. He's already gotten a two thousand yard
season on his belt. Then he comes Then he gets
a nineteen twenty one the first time there. Now he
comes back, he's at always fourteen hundred. Now we know
the Steelers are style against the run. They're gonna do
everything they can to try to take that away. But
I don't care take it away.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
I meant to say that yesterday too, especially when you
but you had to be so upset about your your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Sorry, honey, I forgot to say.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
I'm like, wait a minute, where you can give him
the ball thirty times a game, you know, and do
what you did last week, but you also playing the
goddamn steal his defense that you not for the just
impose your will on and run up and down the
field like.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
You want to.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I think he had.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I think he had he had about seventy yards last
time they played Ojo.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Yeah, them boy, them boys coming down here and they
coming to the party now.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
But the problem is is that it's just hard. Oh Joe,
you know, it's hard when you pay a quarterback that
kind of money to turn it to say, okay, well
we just hand the ball off. When you got a
Joe Burrow, when you got those guys like that, it's
just hard because I paid you all this money to
do what ojo for the football. But see, and I
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think the problem that we're running into that you run into.
Do we think any less of John L. Wade because
he had Terrell Davis?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
We don't. He won the Bowl.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Everybody says John Elway won two Super Bowls. He was
the MVP in his last one. Let that's ink end.
So if Lamar has to hand the ball, if Derrick
Henry has to run him to a championship, or if
James Cook run Josh Allen to a championship, so we're
gonna hold out.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
We don't hold out against Troy Aman. We don't hold
against Tad Bradshaw because he had Emmitt Smith and Terry
had Franco Harris.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
We don't hold that against him.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
But now, all of a sudden, now if a quarterback
and elite quarterback has a nice running back, well he
got carried. Do you realize I be looking up go
back and look at the Steelers and look at what
they had defensively and offensively. A Pro Bowl center, an
excuse me, a Hall of Fame center, a Hall of
Fame running back, two Hall of Fame receivers, five Hall
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of famers on defense, and a Hall of Fame owner,
and a Hall of Fame coach.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
But don't nobody say he got carried. Look at what
emmittt had.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Michael Learvins is in the Hall of Fame, Larry Allen
is in the Hall of Fame. Emmitt Smith is in
the Hall of Fame. Charles Haley is in the Hall
of Fame. Deon Sanders is in the Hall of Fame.
Darren Woodson is on the ballot to be in the
Hall of Fame. Nobody said, as these guys got carried.
John Elway, Shannon Sharks in the Hall of Fame. Gary
Zimmerman is in the Hall of Fame. To Real Davis
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is in the Hall of Fame. Steve Atward is in
the Hall of Fame. Nobody says seven got carried. It
depends on but we want to put because we want
to devalue the guy, because we want to problem. We
want to keep our guy up here. We'll devalue that
the hell with y'all.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Making up a reason on why, right, ain't nobody ain't
nobody look ah.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
There ain't nobody. Judge jayleen Hurst did that he threw.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, it's nice to have a running game, But ain't
nobody talking about no carried man.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Y'all, y'all gotta stop this.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Go back and look at the game, the Super Bowl
that Peyton won, and see how many yards they rush for.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Go back a look at it.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Damn I forgot who that was. That was who was
running edge? Was a running back?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
No, dad trading Joseph and Die and what's the other
guy name? They had almost two hundred yards rushing against
the Bears. But we gotta stop this. It's okay. At
the end of the day, I'm trying to win. I
don't care who's getting the credit. They're like, man, you
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ain't doing nothing in the Super Bowl. I got a ring,
and they got just as many diamonds as John's got it,
got just as many diamonds as TV's got. My ring
got just as many diamonds, and all three of those
guys with the MVPs my ring just as big as bears.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Well you got your ring in that with you?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Uh, uh, they had a safety deposit box and and uh,
and I want to.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
See you know, I ain't never seen no Super Bowl ring.
I want a few of them on mad.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
But Dominique roads roads.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Remember Dominique. And I ain't never seen no super Bowl
ring up closed. I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
But at them things and got mad. Them things so
big now, old Joe, Oh you're small. Yeah yeah, they
like normal size. I don't know, I don't know when
they got you remember those those ring those three finger rings.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Yeah, yeah, back.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I don't know when they started making super Bowl rings
that big, but that's what they are now. And I
think each year because somebody's like, oh, man, man, you
see the Patriots man, the Patriots ring this big, Well,
I gotta be bigger than there. And they said, man,
you saw the Patriots man, you saw the chiefe the
Chiefs like, I've got to be bigger than the Patriots.
And then you get, uh, you get the Rams saying
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I gotta be bigger than the Chiefs, and you get
the Eagle said I've got to be bigger than So
I mean pretty soon, o't joke. Pretty soon, I was
they're gonna get them medallion. They're gonna be looking at flavor.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
I'm I'm gonna get me a ring maid on.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Well you go to you go to jameson.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
John what I think there's only like that I can
call off the top of my head. Jostin's bow for
because Johstin and Balfor used to do class. Now most
everybody when they go to get rings b n B
A w n B A NHL Hill.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Yeah, Jada playing, he made a couple of pieces for me.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, I got a couple of pews from Jay's good
do man.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I like it, Uh, John Arbrod now is today it
would be if it's to beat to be determined whether
Lamar Jackson can play Sunday Night against the Steelers with
your crowd the AFC North Champ. Harboy said he's coming
off a very serious injury and he's working at it.
I think we'll know a lot more Wednesday, James Harrison
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and Uh James Harrison had some interesting thoughts on lamar
snoop hunting debate. Let's take a listen to what Deebo
had to say on he De Boy and Joe early
this morning.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
Right now, I hope Lamar comes back, bro because I
wouldn't right, you right want him him because the Hunt
League can get a gear right now that Lamar Jackson
can't get to or is afraid to get to because
he's gonna pull something. And I also think that with
Lamar in there, we gonna have a better chance of
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winning simply because the Ravens, I feel, would be stupid
enough not to give Derrick Henry the ball thirty five
to forty two.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Ah, I like what he said. I like what he said.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Oh, you like what he said. But when I said
that last thought you.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
I like what he said, but that's not gonna happen.
What's the first thing I said, Lamar? If Lamar is healthy,
he's gonna play.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Matter of fact, nobody's healthy this time of the season, right,
Lamar has a back in tusion with that need that
went to his back, right, So whatever he's to do,
he's playing his last game. Who gives him the best
chance to win having Lamar Jackson a quarterback. If Lamar
Jackson plays right, and then you have to worry about
the threat of Derrick Henry as well, and you have
to worry about the threat of Lamar Jackson and his legs,
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even if it's Lamar Jackson as seventy percent. He still
can be efficient and do things that other quarterbacks can't do.
I think it's it's okay use that for him, because
you know Lamar is hurt.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
What do you do?
Speaker 5 (42:13):
We're going to put the onus of the offense on
Derrek Henry's shoulders instead of Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
I mean as but if that's the case, why not
go with it? Why not go with a healthy guy?
Give me, give me Lamar. Since he's been back his
rush totals because he's he's running for a career low.
He was averaging fifty plus yards a game.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
You do have to understand Lamar. Lamar is a throw
a throw first quarterback. Now he's not just dropping back.
Oh my first read or my first reading out there.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
I'm not worried. I'm not worried about it. I'm not
I wanted a digression and lame mess your question. As
the defensive coordinator, you're more concerned about his arms or
his legs.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Both because it improved Hell as a passer. He just
threw for forty one five last year. What are we
talking about?
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I'm just ocho. I'm just saying I'm more concerned about
his legs.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Because he's a threat there as well. But this is
the same quarterback that just threw for forty one touchdowns
and five as Yes, he had Aaron Rodgers and Prive numbers.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Okay, in twelve Stars this year, Lamar Jackson is six
and six. He's thrown for less than one hundred and
ninety three yards per game, which ranks twenty fourth among
quarterbacks with at least ten games played. His three hundred
and forty yards rushing is a career low. And filling
in for Jackson, Huntley has won both of his starts,
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beating the playoffs Chicago Bears and the Green Bay Packers.
In those starts, Huntley has completed seventy nine percent of
his passes, two hundred and ninety three yards, two touchdowns,
no interceptions. He's also run four hundred and thirteen yards
and two starts.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Now, one guy in twelve starts have a three hundred
and forty yards rushing, another guy in two starts have
one hundred and thirteen yards rushing, and he ain't beat
no pushovers. Because I know what you want to say
in chat. I know y'all want to say, are the
Chicago Bears any good?
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Are they good? They are great?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
No, I'm just.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
They are great this year.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
So I'm just it's a it's a rhetorded question, though, Joe,
he ain't for you to answer them. So, hey, Chad,
are the Bears any good? Or do we think the
Green bat packers?
Speaker 2 (44:34):
An? That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
O Joe, I'm looking at it like since he's been back,
I don't know if he's afraid. And I think he's
afraid to run on Joe because he knows that hamstring
is not one hundred percent. And the last Oh, Joe,
you know, when you got a hamstring, you ain't finna
open up. I don't give damn what nobody say. Anybody
say you're gonna open up when you got some tweak
has never had anything to ye because if you had
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a tweet, ah nah Son, hey son, you got to
get it.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Bro, this is all I got. Ain't no getting Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
So it's gonna be Look, it's gonna be very interesting
to see. And I think the thing is the biggest thing. Look,
sometimes you have to save us for ourselves, Goto, because
like you say, we play football, we want to play.
We want to play that's in us. I want to
be there for my guys. But I think Lamar's gonna
have to be honest with himself. Can I I if
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the rubber needs to meet the road and I need
and I need to open up, will I be able
to open it up?
Speaker 2 (45:45):
See?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Oh joe, But they used to have the thing chat
anybody that's my age. You're a little older, you know,
they used to have a stock like in your car.
Oh yo, you can only master the pedal down so
far before it was Yeah, you do you want all
the now so far before? Stop on, Joe. But you
know we got slick. We take it out. Hey, So
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that's the question. Because they only wanted the car to
go so fast. That's also why they got that little
mechanism right there, oh joe, where the car hit that
far as it goes as far as it goes right there?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
But see, then guess what they say. You know what?
Speaker 1 (46:26):
They want to go faster. I want something to run
out of numbers. I don't know where it stop, go
back right, go back round the team.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Be t uh, Hey, I all that. Oh that's a
tough way. That's tough.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
But that's why you that's why you're the head coach.
That's why you make the decisions. You're gonna have to
assess this in practice. You have to look at him
in practice on Joe and see. And it's hard because
I don't.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Want to wait.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
When I go to the Jim Mojo, I don't really
be doing no warming up them reps count. I go
in the gym and get right up onto something and
start lifting. Jordan take by forty five minutes to warm up.
I said, Man, them reps they count. I got like
sixty reps in me. If I warm up a twinty,
I got forty reps. I ain't doing all the No,
I'm good to go. I get in there, Hey, I'm good.
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Get you paid. So that's the thing is, O Joe,
I don't want them to do anything that that a
jeopardizer or aggravated or irritate. Aggravate means to work, make worse,
irritate means to bother. I just don't like a gnat
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like a fly, O Joe, that bothers them fly. They
don't make things worth. Ain't nothing gonna be?
Speaker 4 (47:52):
Yeah, I just don't.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
I don't like the discourses with Lamar having it down here,
having injuries to deal with and now we help stay
out of you know, the facility in the organization and
about trading and just stuff like that. It just it
just shouldn't come about because you would never hear anything
like that about Patrick Mahomes. You never hear anything like
that about Joe Burrow, Josh any of these other top
top tier quarterbacks like La Jackson.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, when you see Josh, what didn't Josh get that money?
Speaker 1 (48:17):
You see, Josh got his money because remember they said
they was gonna take care of this Lamar don't need
to worry about anything. So I don't know if that
was in the back of his mind or Joe he
saw what Josh Allen got. Josh Allen got paid, got
two hundred and sixty five million, fully guaranteed three hundred
and three you know, guarante, whatever the case may be.
With Joe, And I don't know if that maybe that
was in the back of his mind, maybe like, oh, bro,
(48:39):
y'all told me, y'all gonna take care of me.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
I wasn't gonna be in this situation. But yet ye.
Speaker 5 (48:44):
And it's the thing about it, if you don't want
to take care of him, go ahead and let him go.
Somebody else will play play Clay, play stupid games, win
stupid prizes.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Absolutely, absolutely, So we're going to find out. We'll we'll
know more. Tomorrow is an off day, nobody really doing
anything then. But as Wednesday and Thursday, we'll see how
he's progressing. They'll start saying Lamark. You know, they're probably
not gonna have Lamar do a whole lot while practice
(49:16):
is open, the media is there. They normally come the
first fifteen minutes of an open practice and then they
have to get out of there, so they won't The
media will not have a really good indication of what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
But we'll see Friday and as the week.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
As it wanes down later in the week, as it
moves closer to Sunday, we'll see what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Damn Man.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Adam Schefter estimate the Steelers Ravens upcoming NFL season finale
will have a border a broader implication on John Harbar
and Mike Tomlin's job security. Schefter said today, somebody's going
to lose that game, and somebody's going to lose. And
when somebody loses that game, we heard the Steeler fans
channing fire Mike Tomas Earlier this year, we've heard Ravens
(50:01):
fans saying they could should be a conversation about John
Harbaugh after the season. One of those fan bases is
going to be unhappy. Sheefter says in the realm of
possibility that Mike Tomlin leaves the Stealer where they lost
on Sunday and goals does TV next season or coaching
somewhere else in twenty twenty six, Oh, Joe me, I
don't see a scenario in which Mike Tomlin leaves and
(50:24):
goes into TV. But what do you think is gonna happen?
What like, like you said, somebody gotta.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
Lose, somebody has to lose. Honestly, on I don't see
Mike Tomlin. One thing the Seedlers have never done. The
Steelers have never fired anybody. They've never fired anybody, if I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Not well, not anybody since nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 5 (50:43):
And I don't think it's gonna happen now. It's never
been a part of what they do. I just now
Harball on the other instance, I mean, are the are
the Ravens closer to winning with Harball at the helm?
Do they need another voice? You always say in that
building may maybe so, I'm not sure how they feel
(51:04):
about them. There's so many different things that need to
go go right for the Ravens now for them to
get back in contention and be able to compete, you know,
for the Lombardi no year in a year out the
one they gotta.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
You gotta get your quarterback situation right.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
I don't think either. I don't think either is close.
Speaker 5 (51:26):
But listen, well, changing coaches put you further behind the ball.
It don't put you no closer. You take, tear it
down and build it back up.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
That makes your question, did it uh move Chicago closer?
For other way?
Speaker 4 (51:43):
What do they have in place? What's the one important
piece of every team?
Speaker 2 (51:47):
You say they got Lamar Jackson, you say they got
it what they need?
Speaker 4 (51:51):
What? Damn?
Speaker 2 (51:52):
I need you to make up your mind. Either Lamar
is that or he is Yes, he is that.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Okay, So the quarterback is going to do what we're
talking about. Coaching, we don't move, okay.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
Okay, okay, change and changing the coaching well hell coaching.
Speaker 5 (52:08):
Harvard don't play defense, he don't play dB and he
definitely ain't no defense in.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Y'all. You know what?
Speaker 4 (52:17):
You know what pieces your team need to be able
to compete, and they don't have it right now. They
just don't.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
I don't think either team is close, And I don't
think either team is close with the coaches that they have.
Speaker 4 (52:30):
How about this, What do you think about Brian Floyd
is coming up coming to Baltimore?
Speaker 2 (52:37):
Who is gonna be as oc do I think? I? Look?
Speaker 1 (52:41):
I me personally, they need personnel. They need better personnel
on defense. They need they need a right guard, but
they need defense at the end. Yang could they use
another receiver?
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Yeah? They need big.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
I mean, I don't know what what what happened with
Rashad Bateman this year? He is a bigger receiver. Uh,
but they need they need a big receiver. Watch Kansas
City gonna go get a big receiver.
Speaker 4 (53:15):
God damn Candy City got a slew of them boys
over there.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
I mean we I mean we talked about she Rice
last year like he was the second coming.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
Ain't got a huge catch radius? When you got guys
five eight, five, nine, five ten on your how big
is the catch radios?
Speaker 4 (53:32):
Right? He tall?
Speaker 6 (53:33):
Ain't he?
Speaker 4 (53:33):
I thought he was like six four six five.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Please?
Speaker 4 (53:37):
Oh, I'm but you know on TV, I ain't never
seen him in person?
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Boy, how tall? Right? Six foot?
Speaker 4 (53:45):
He looked tall as hell on TV.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
No, he doesn't look tall to me. They said he's
sixty one.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
Okay, so he uh he?
Speaker 2 (53:54):
But how tall is Hollywood? Okay?
Speaker 4 (53:56):
Hollywood short?
Speaker 2 (53:57):
They short?
Speaker 4 (53:58):
I mean I see them all the time. They from
the crib.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Mm hmm how tall? How tall is h Yuju? Is Juju?
Six foot tall?
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Juju not tall either?
Speaker 2 (54:11):
The Juju six one?
Speaker 4 (54:13):
Shoot, I'm six four. They could bring me back.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
I think I might be able to run Juju though.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
Juju never a burner unt burner.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
So if he wasn't a burner eight years ago, how
fast is he now?
Speaker 4 (54:31):
A little bit slower, a tad bit. He might not
know it?
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Oh he knows it.
Speaker 5 (54:39):
You know, Hey, a A these team need a weapon. Man,
I'm always available. I'm always available.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
I look at it like this here, Oh Joe, If
a team can five Bill Belachack with six Super Bowls
and ten Super Bowl appearances, guy, dang, they can five
Mike Tomlin and John that.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
When listen, when you when you use that analogy.
Speaker 5 (55:05):
Perspective, you know, for for better context, that's that's that's
a possibility.
Speaker 4 (55:11):
But you gonna understand.
Speaker 5 (55:14):
What message are you sending your team, your players, and
your fans when you say, you know what, we're letting
Harball go, We're letting Mike Tomin go, We're starting all
of it from scratch.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Let me ask you this when you throw, we throw
furniture and putting new furniture in, and what messages you sinding?
Speaker 4 (55:33):
Well, you ain't got the good you ain't got the
furniture to bring in. How about that got what you
mean what furniture're gonna bring in?
Speaker 2 (55:42):
A new coach's furniture?
Speaker 4 (55:45):
Damn you you got new furniture. We still got the
same people sitting on it. What's ship?
Speaker 2 (55:51):
What's gonna be the difference?
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yeah? You the same people when your grandma got new,
got a new catch it got the old count your stack, yo,
You and Chouncey was still had your ass hold the couch.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
Hey, hey, hey, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (56:11):
Like all Jesus side, the Ravens organization, the Steelers organization,
they have some tough decisions to make.
Speaker 4 (56:19):
I'm very very very tough ones.
Speaker 5 (56:22):
And and and honestly, for me, the fact that the
way Lamar is being done because he's had this one
injury see this one injury prone season and the stuff
coming out about him that we knew nothing about, and
all of a sudden, people that are not in that building,
they all of a sudden know about It means just
coming from inside the house, you know.
Speaker 4 (56:42):
So you know at that point, I I would much.
Speaker 5 (56:45):
Rather him have new scenery, go somewhere else, and and
and and start and start over.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
I give a prime example, look at Andy Reid.
Speaker 4 (56:58):
They fired Andy.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
He went to Kansas City. Now he's the Hall of Fame.
Now you can make a case that he's a top
five coaching in the game. Jeffrey Lourie had to say,
you know what, you was taking us as.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Far as we can go.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
Maybe Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh is taking these teems
as far as they can take them. Maybe it's somebody
else need to navigate.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
And that's okay.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
I'm not saying they're bad coaches, but maybe it's just
time for a different voice to be heard in the
locker room.
Speaker 4 (57:43):
Damn, hey, ye, that time for a new voice.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
Outlier.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
Everybody's outlined. So what what was Tom Brady? Tom Brady
with he's an outlier. Let me get this right. Peyton
Manning he's an outlier. Of course they're outliers.
Speaker 4 (58:04):
Well, I'm just saying, so what you just hold so.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
You just hold on to him.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
I guess it sounds good. Though Mike Tomlin has never
had a losing season. I thought the job was the win.
I thought the job was to win and win championships.
So in the last decade, how close have the Steelers
come to winning a championship?
Speaker 2 (58:27):
Realistically?
Speaker 1 (58:28):
Let's be honest, making the playoffs just because you make
the player come on, because they've been They've lost the
first round every time in the last decade. So realistically,
how close have they been? I'm waiting on you Steeler fans.
(58:51):
I know y'all black and yellow and all that, the
terrible towels. How close Stealer fans? Realistically in the last
decade have you been to winning a championship?
Speaker 4 (59:09):
You know you got affiliation over there in Baltimore? Huh
you played that you want to ring there? You know
what that?
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah, But I'm realistic.
Speaker 5 (59:17):
I was realistic with the prom I don't even see
why I'm going with it though. That opportunity for you know,
a head, can you imagine that?
Speaker 4 (59:25):
Coach shark, no coach shark.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
I don't want to I don't want no part I
like talking about football. I don't want to look at
those tape. I don't want to look at tape and
try to evaluate players and bring players in and none
of that.
Speaker 2 (59:39):
You know that, you know, I got my time.
Speaker 4 (59:41):
Exactly what you're looking for?
Speaker 2 (59:42):
You know what you do.
Speaker 4 (59:45):
You don't be the perfect person for the job. And
that's that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
God, is what I looking for? You something about five
five seven five?
Speaker 4 (59:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (59:57):
I mean that's what I'm trying to evaluate. I mean,
see see you saying I know what I'm looking for.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Hey, hey, goody.
Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Okay, okay? How many? How many do they?
Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
How long before your approbation? You know, I gotturday thirty?
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Are you good?
Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
You good?
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
You good?
Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
You good?
Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
But I listen, I'm first one on board, Lamar. I
know shit, Lamar might be watching honestly, all hey, it's
so funny. All them all them boys be tuned in.
Uh and they don't even but they don't. They don't
type nothing in the in the chat. They be tuned in.
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Oh yo, insane. Statord Steelers are winners O four and
one of the last.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Five games versus teams entering with eight plus games below
five hundred times, the longest streak in NFL history, and
twenty two they lost.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
In twenty twenty, they lost to the Bengals, who were
two ten and one. In twenty one, they tied the
o and eight Lions. In twenty twenty three, they lost
to the two and ten Cardinals. In twenty three, they
lost to the two in ten Patriots. In twenty five,
they lost to the three and twelve Browns.
Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
Hey you think Sterling want to coach? What?
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
No, bro, I can't get it to come on once
a month, he tell my coach.
Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
I'm just saying, Hey, you're a brilliant mind when it
comes to the game, and I'm telling you are probably
what not only the NFL needs, but the players in
today's game need. Even the players it's a different era,
but you coming in with those your old ways and
mixing that and balancing it in moderation, allowing them to
have a little structural discipline.
Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
You keep denying, You keep denying God's calling, and that's
the problem. Yeah, I come be your assistant.
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Now. I'm good. Mm hmm. I don't watch enough tape
as it is. I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I ain't got time for guys to come and be
coming in late. Because I don't, I don't do the
excuse thing.
Speaker 7 (01:02:18):
They were not gonna come in late with you. That's
what I'm trying to make. I fake the figure because
I had to learn. I had to learn with Club
Shay Shay. Because you know, I'm thinking the interview. They
say one o'clock, they say twelve o'clock. Okay, twelve o'clock
we're starting. We're starting twelve fifteen, twelve thirty one, one thirty.
Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
You know two olock famous people. They famous people will
be on their own time. They ain't got no regard
for nobody else time.
Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
They're the one that set the time up. Yeah, they
how you set the time up in.
Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
Late head make up and all that. You notice when
we did our club Cha Shae, You notice I was
there thirty forty minutes early. I wouldn't go quite thirty
forty minute early, but you were, you were, You were thirty.
Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Forty minutes early because I was outside smoking a cigar.
I beat you there.
Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Yeah, I said it was gonna be at one o'clock.
I got there twelve forty five, and I
Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
Got there twelve ten because I knew I wanted to
smoke and drink my coffee outside and see, I'll be
on I be on time, like my God on time.
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Guys, the night the game that you watched, the night
that Atlanta Falcons pulls off a Shoka with a twenty
four to twenty one victory over.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
The Los Angeles Ram.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
But it was Bjon Robinson that had himself a Knight,
and he showed you why he's going to the Pro Bowl.
There's a great chance he's gonna be a first team
All Pro because the way he can start stop on
a dime.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Hell O, yo, I thought he was four to four.
That ain't.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
No four to four could do? Wint got it? Can
he should have had two ninety y'all?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
And then before you before you go talking about the game,
I want to talk about Bejon real quick and how
specially and when I look at in NFL history all
the running backs that had the agility, the quickness, the
ability to the jump cut, jump start, come to balance
and reaccelerate again, I can only think of four who
who looked like Bijon Robinson. I think of Barry Sanders
(04:04):
for one. I'm not saying any Barry Sanders. I'm talking
about his style the way I'm not seeing Barry Sanders.
We got Lashawn McCoy. Yes, we got Marshall Faulk and
we got Bjon. Now, for those in the chat that
watch football understand what I'm talking about. I'm not saying,
I'm not comparing these players at all. I'm saying the
styling play in which they run the ball and the
(04:24):
abilities that they have but they had the ball in
their hands are damn they're similar.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
He definitely reminds me more of Leshan McCoy. Barry was
more of a two foot jump stop guy and keep going.
I mean, if you look at bad, I mean, I've
never I've never seen a guy and you'll probably never
see another guy that can do with Barry.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I mean his joints.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I'm surprised he ain't got hit replacement and double knee
and double hip replacement, Joe, because you've never seen a
guy that can start and stop. I'm talking about he hopped,
stopped with both feet, shimmy, and then take off running again.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
He was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But Bjon Robinson, boy boy, boy boy, you beast shot.
I mean, but he reminds you. Let me tell you
why he looks like Barry, because Barry can take a
five yard loss and you forget that it was a loss.
You like, man, he shook six people, Yeah, but he
lost five yard.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Don't worry about that. Don't he worry about that. It's
second to fifteen.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I know, but you see all those guys laying on
the ground, he shook them. And that's what bijon, bijon,
I mean that thirty one yard run on Joe. Three
guys had him Dann right what verse I think actually
had him pulling him down.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And how he get out of that, I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
But they didn't win this ball game tonight, twenty seven
to twenty four. B Jon Robinson twenty two carres above
ninety five to one score and he also had a
receiving touchdown in the first quarter of the ball game.
And they took an early twenty one to nothing lead,
built that lead to twenty four to three. But the
Rams come all the way back. They get a touchdown
past to Ferguson, they get a block kick, they scored
(06:00):
a field goal, well they scored the field goal first,
and then they get the touchdown to Ferguson. Then they
get the block kick, and then they get the jet
screen to a Pooka who gets the ball into the
end zone. But the Falcons go down the field bleed
the clock almost been.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
A great catch by Pooker that was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Because it looked like a oh joey really until they
when the ball actually came a loose from it looked
like a catch.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
It did it did? Poo poo poo. Man. Listen, he's
been making some unbelievable plays.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
He been making some catches and that would have been
a dope catch for him to come up with that one.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
But I mean, the ram did this to the cell phone. Now,
listen to the.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Offense that we've seen play all year long, putting up
thirty damn there, thirty thirty five game every They just
weren't clicking on. They just weren't clicking tonight offensively, and
Matt didn't make it any easy he did making eensier
throwing Helly had what uh what three picks? He had
five interceptions all season long, and he comes in tonight
and he has.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Three those three.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And look the he overshot, he overshot and base the
third got him runs it backboard pick. But the three
by two, Oh joe, he passed off three and jumps too.
We just talked about that last week. The guy jumped,
passed off too, and jump one. So we see that
that is a very common thing. They're like, bro, they're
not throwing you ball they looking to throw the ball.
(07:22):
They're trying to get me up out of there so
they can throw in behind me. I'm gonna pass that off.
Let the safety worry about that, and he did. Thirty
one made a great play. He had two picks tonight
which were outstanding. Yeah, but you said that, o Jo.
The Rams don't have anybody to blame but themselves. And
it's kind of hard to like, no matter what, we're
the fifth or the sixth seed. You know what I'm saying, Ocho,
(07:45):
is not like we can't we can't win the division.
We can't get a home game. So oh well, it
is what it is. But you never know. I mean, hey,
the seventh seed might make it, and there so the fifth,
the fifth or sixth seed, and you do get a
home game, so you never know what could happen. But
the Falcons and I told you, I said, oh yo,
the Falcons defense better than your Fagan, They better you.
(08:06):
I say, they can gay Floyd and Pierce. They can
get after you. Ellis, I like that linebacker. I said,
they can get after people. Remember how they made Josh Allen. Look,
didn't they beat the Buffalo Bills thirty to nothing?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Absolutely Hey and that the back in the backing is
really good too.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Aj Terrell Ajterrell played really well. You got base the third,
uh Xavier Watts had an outstanding game. They played. They
played really well today, Uh, oh jo. They called holding.
That wasn't look I think they ended up scoring anyway,
But that wasn't no holding. The linel was going down
the left tackle go ahead and throws him down the
(08:41):
nickel because Pooker made a great you know, that was
a long touchdown pass day.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I think they ended up scoring on that drive anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
But this was a game and Zaying Gonzales made a
fifty one yard field goal with twenty five seconds left,
which turned out to beat the game winner. The Rams
will get the number five seed in the NFC if
they win against which is a home game, and the
forty nine Ers lose to the Seahawks. If the Rams
lose to the Cardinals or the forty nine Ers beat
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the Seahawks, the Rams would get the six seed. That
might not be a bad idea because you get an
opportunity to play the Uh the Eagles. The Eagles are
not as not as vaunted as they were last year.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
They're not clicking on all similar seventeen total yards in
the second half. I think Jalen Hurts had two yards
in the second I don't think he completed the pass
in the second half.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Looked at him. I don't think he completed the pass
in the second half. O't Joe.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I think I think that would be a good matchup,
especially in favor of the Rams, the Rams being able
to score it. Well for the back it would be
a good thing because the Eagles defense, the Eagle will
show Yes, now what what portion of what part of
the Eagles offense?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So we're going to get that game?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Are they going to give us a portion of their
office that we just saw this previous weekend?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Then they going home, They going home early.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Well, Devonte will be back. You forgot Davante being gone
the last two games, and he looked good. I mean
he was warming up on the field. That kept him down. Yeah,
so there's a chance that they keep him. They keep
him out one more time and give him another week.
So I'm assuming that when he gets back. Now, the
thing is, oh, jo, you know, hamstrings, they like warm weather.
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They don't really like the cold. You're going outside in
Philly's and maybe that storm that hit the Northeast, hit
New York and Philly and upstairs, you know all that area.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Maybe that's blown over.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
By that time, by the time they get there, it
wasn't two in two weeks. Maybe that storm is gone
and another one won't blow back in. But uh yeah,
I thought the Falcons played really good, that they Cousins
didn't have to do a whole lot. He was thirteen
to twenty one, twenty six, one touchdown but b Jon Robinson.
They had thirty three carries to nineteen and a touchdown
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and the one touchdown to b Jon Robinson. But Bijeon
was sensational to day that. I mean, what can you saying.
I'm glad people get an opportunity to see him. He's been
a couple of national televised games, but you get an
opportunity to see one of the better backs in the league,
and you see how he can catch the ball, he
can run it, and TV you know if I'm teams,
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but I'm scary, I'm afraid don't show that he might
slip because I really want to blitz him and make
him stay and blocked.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
But just my look, I bless him and he slip
out the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah, it's one of the few players you don't want
to see in space.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Nov So.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Obviously Karen Williams ran the ball. He had thirteen carries
for ninety two yards. Didn't have nearly enough. They had
twenty rushes one to fifteen. But because they fell behind
by so much, it kind of neutralized the running game.
They went back to it, but not nearly as enough
as Sean McVay would like to call the running game
because he likes to do a lot of play action
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off of the running game All Lah Kyle Shanahan in
the San Francisco forty nine, and they do a lot
even when they go in motion and they insert the
wide receivers. A lot of times those wide receivers looking
to run cross the routes or they're looking to run
the sail routes. And because you see most times when
people motion the wide receiver in and he leads up.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Inside it like oh, here come the run block.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
But they'll fake it and then all of a sudden
he'll go to the far across or he'll go to
the seven. Yeah, but they didn't get an opportunity to
do a lot of that to night because they fell
behind by so much. They turned them all over Atlanta
Capital lives on it. But uh, this get I am
so glad to fire because one because this thing would
have been real a mister Blank would have been very
disappointed with Ryan.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Absolutely, it's it's it's unfortunate obviously that the head coach
is responsible for losses like that, when when the onus
is on the players. You know, all the coach you
can do is they can coach, they can go through
the exit and o's they can get a game plan,
they can get the scheme. They can tell you what
we need to do.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
You know, and and it's up to you. It's up
to you to execute it.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And when mistakes are made on the field, it's sad
that you know, the responsibility is on the coach when
it's actually the player that makes that makes those mistakes.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
That that's the part that sucks.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
They get they get they get a lot of credit
when things go well, far maybe far too much credit,
and when things go bad, they get too much of
the blame. But at the end of the day, I
try to put you in the best position that I
possibly can. Now it's left up left up to you
to go execute those but you know they're foul because
they're still fighting hard. Now you look at them, like, bro,
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the way y'all play, it ain't no way y'all should
be under five hundred.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Y'all should have been so the last weekend should have
come down to you guys and and and Carolina and
Tampa for the division, not just now. You guys are player.
You know A want to finish out strong B eighty nine. Nah,
y'all too. They got they got too much talent on
show you. I mean when you look at them, look
at b Jon Robinson. Now year you look at the
receivers of Mooney and Robinson and County Drake London, David Sills,
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the fifth uh stepped up tonight. They got too much
talent on the offensive side of football. And that defense
isn't bad. There is a bad they can get after
the quarterback. I lo like Lennon Floyd. I always thought
he was good. I like Piers Ellis, the linebacker's really good.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
They got a J. Terrell, they got good player.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
If if I misster Blank, if I'm mister blank, I'm
giving Raheem an ultimatum, make the playoffs, say you got
to go.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's really that simplow Joe, damn.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah, yeah, on which when you're right on which, when
you're right, this is this is right? He third year? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Uh, it's his second year in it?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Is it third or second? Because didn't they take it?
Might be a third year old, j if I'm not mistaken,
this is the second year, because I remember they took
they took Pennick Jr. Last year, which was his first year, right, right,
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But you look at what they got. They got aj Terrell,
they got Jesse Based third, Lennard Floyd Piris Junior. They
got some guys. Those interior guys are really good. They're
not in the names like a Jeffrey Simmons. They're not
a name like a Chris Jones. They're not a name
like that. But they're solid players.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah in that division, oh Joe, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You gotta make the playoffs in that division because they
ain't No, ain't no hell Raisers in that division. There's
some solid teams, but they're not. There are no there
are no Rams in that division. There are no Seahawks
in that division. There are no forty nine ers in
that division. There are no Eagles in that division. There's
no Chicago or the Green Bays.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
In that division.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Nah, that's that's one of the week of divisions in football.
And I expect better than what I got this year.
At some point in time, Ojoe, we can't keep kicking
this thing down the road and say next year and
next year and next year.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
You got enough. He's given you enough now to go
make it thay happen.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Definitely have enough to compete and compete. Definitely got another.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So it's gonna be very interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
The forty nine ers, the forty nine ers, if they
beat Seattle, they're the number one seed. Seattle wins, Seattle's
the one seed. Those are the only scenarios. Those are SiO.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Good thing about those scenarios. Either way or go. I'm
in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Well, if the Bears hold on, if the Eagles win
and the Bears lose, the Eagles will go to the
two slot, the Bears will fall down to the three slot,
and the winner of the NFC South will be in
the four slot.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So there's still very much there's still a lot to play.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
For, There's still a lot on the line, and it's
gonna be very very interesting to see what transpires. Who
the Eagles got the Commanders. Eagles got the command the
Cowboys got.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
The should be easy out. I don't mean to be
respectful who the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It should be easy.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Out, you know now?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I remember they ran the score up on them. They
say we got something for y'all. We see y'all a
couple of weeks. Now what they say on y'all, I.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Don't know that.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Listen. I know one thing.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
We can have the bottom of the offense fall out
like it did last week.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
We can't have that.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
We can't have we can't buy week. But anyway, you
can't go into a second half of seventeen yards of offense.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
You're not gonna win that game. You can't do it.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, cause you definitely want to be playing your best
football going towards the playoff momentum.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
You need that momentum going into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, yes, I agree. I definitely agree with you.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
But the Falcons win, Uh, they get an opportunity to
close out the season on a positive note, if they
can go, if they can beat.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
They got New Orleans, right, Yeah, they got New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
They hate New Orleans, hate them, and they hate New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
The fans hate each other.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
He O Joe, you would think that this is Baltimore, Pittsburgh,
or this is uh the Cowboys commanders. It used to
be uh, you know, the derogatory term the Eagles Giant.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You would think it was one of those O.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yo, it's bad. Got understand, and I'm just finding out
about it.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
I'm just finding out about it, you know, trying to
try to trying to have everybody come together and have
a kom by y'all moment, you know, a great game,
having the Saints fans and Falcons fans sit together and
enjoy the game as one man. They told me, fuck, wait.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
A minute, and they wasn't. They weren't very hospitable when
when hurricane control to.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Get either, they wasn't. They wasn't.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
That's what they like. Don't break your hands up here,
go down to Houston, to go to gow, go somewhere.
They come here.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I said, come on, bad, we can y'all can resume
that of a later day time. No, it's always it's
been that, it's always gonna be.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I would love to know.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I would love to know the backstory on why the
hatred is the way it is. I understand if it's
you know, it's a division game. You have you you
have your teams that you love, but it's a it's
a it's a real hate. When I talk to all
Saints faces like there's don't like not damn what happened?
I need, I need the backstory on why it really
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is like that.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh Joe, do you think they could have called that?
Because to me it wasn't arm bar offered.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
You can't do that now when you're hand fighting's okay,
but you behind, if you're hide your start even in
your hand fighting, that's one thing that's that's fair. You
have an opportunity to make a play for the ball,
but knowing that you're behind, and the only way what
you can do is it's almost it's almost a betteran
move too, uncle. You grab it is you hold one
hand down the best way, the best way you can.
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But it's hard for the rep who's it's hard.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
For the rep whose body is being blocked by the
receiver to see it that But guess who's not blocked.
That back judge, the side judge might not can see it,
but there's a back judge up under the gold post.
That's far enough fact that he can see it, or
you can see it.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Hell, yeah, you can see.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I think he blocked. I think he blocked off on.
I think because you got a thing where to with
the way to.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Was going on the deep ball, the ball was over
his over uh of.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
His inside outside I know it was over outside shoulder.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
It was like, I mean, the ref K, the ref
K see what's going on on the other side.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Think about it.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
If I'm going like this, I'm coming towards you and
I reached. He's got my left R opinion. So theoretically,
if the if the side judge is blocked, there's the
bat judge.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Right there, and you know what the side judge is
he all the way down the field too. Can't you
even see that? I don't even think the side judge
got a visual.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
He should because they'd be throwing flags out of nowhere
from somewhere some of somebody be having yellow flags let'st
in the stands.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But it was great And I'm not so sure, Ojo
had he caught it, because there was ten seconds on
the clock. I'm not so sure, Ojo. They could have
got everybody to the line and killed it to get
a chance to get a ball.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Get out the timeouse already. Yeah, it was out of time.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I don't know, Joe, if they could have got down
there in ten seconds them lineman, hold on.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
That's another thing the NFL might need to go back.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Why don't you allow people to at least get themselves
set before you start?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And now they ain't got nothing to do with me.
I'm let that clock run, TI.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
You said, at least give a team opportunity to get
to the ball once the referee says the ball, and
then let the clock go.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
The clocks going regardless. See, you try to get the
old college rules.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah. Just Drake Maye just took a.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Big lead in the MVP updated odds across all sports book.
Drake may have a total of two incompletions in week seventeen. Meanwhile,
Matthew Stafford threw three interceptions. Matthew Stafford now has updated
he has forty two touchdowns, eight interceptions. Drake may has
thirty four touchdowns eight interceptions. But he was exquisite yesterday
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and everybody saw it. And Matthew Stafford everybody saw the
three interceptions, so a less something. And I'm trying to think,
who did the Jets play the Dolphins just played No,
I mean, I mean the Patriots play the Dolphins played Itdolphin. Yeah,
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the Bills got a bye week.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
You know what I did too yesterday.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I don't know what you do yesterday when we asked
about who would be the MVP, and I chose, I
chose to Stafford.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
But what Matt Stafford is doing, he's supposed to be
doing that. We've seen him that before.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
I want to make I want to change my pick,
and not because it's a nice performance, because I look
at the body of work that Drake May has put
over throughout the entirety of this season and how he's
put the Patriots on his back. And the reason, I mean, honestly,
the sole reason why they're in continent this year and
having a chance of going to the playoffs and playing
for Lombardi Trophy in absence of Tom Brady is because
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of him, Not because jos not because of Josh mcdame,
not because of Mike Vrabel, but Drake May. Because he's
the one has to make those decisions with the ball,
and he's done extremely well at protecting the ball and
making the most of all his opportunities.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, Yeah, he's played extremely well, but I think we can't.
We can't say enough about what Josh has done and
Josh ability to get on that wave length. He under
the quarterback, He understands the quarterback. He always plays to
his quarterback strength. We saw this where he had Tom Brady.
But and then you saw I think, I think, no,
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that's Bill O'Brien there because of what you coll him
had already left, Uh, Charlie Weiss, And I think Bill
O'Brien was there then. Wasn't Bill O'Brien the OC in
two thousand and eight when Matt Castle came in.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
After after Tom towards knee?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, I think Bill O'Brien was there. Yeah, he was,
because remember when they went to the Super Bowl and lost. Yeah, yeah,
Bill O'Brien was the head coach, wasn't he? I mean
the OC? Yeah, but you look at what he's been
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able to do with the quarter when he had Mac Jones.
Mac Jones looked really, really well, went to the Pro Bowl,
they went to the playoffs. Then all of a sudden, No,
it wasn't all of a sudden. Josh McDaniel's got the
head coaching job first Oakland and still instead of coach
Belichick hiring somebody because look, coach Belichick always keeps, he
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rarely goes outside. Normally, the people that he hires he
hires from the end. If you go back and study
his history, Bill O'Brien was already on the staff and
everybody that normally that he hires is already on his staff.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Rarely, rarely does he go outside.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
And that's why he had Matt Patricia and Joe Judge
take over the oc OC job when he should have
gone outside. If you didn't trust somebody that was already
on your staff, you can't hire. You can't hire a
special teams coach and a defensive coordinator all of a
sudden to be co offensive coordinators and being a young
players there, you just can't do that. But Matthew Stafford, Yeah,
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he definitely hurt himself tonight. It reminds me of the
situation that Patrick Mahomes was was leading in the MVP
race and and they played the Atlanta Falcons and they won,
but Patrick Mahons did not play well and and Aaron
Rodgers through like three touchdowns and took over the lead
and he ended up winning the MVP. So we might
have a very very similar situation on our hands. Sixty
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three percent of the chat is taking Drake May for
the MVP, thirty percent is taking Matthew Stafford. O Jo,
an NFL agent, say the biggest story of the off
season could be the Ravens trading Lamar Jackson. The biggest
story in the off season is going to be Lamar.
That's going to be crazy. According to The Athletic, the
agent loved Minnesota as an under the radar destination.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The Vikings would send jj McCarthy, don't you do that?
We don't want They don't want him.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
As part of the deal, giving both quarterbacks a fresh start,
Jackson on artificial turf and.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
A dome lookout.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
McCarthy would Harbaugh work well, No, send him to San Diego.
If if Minnesota said, okay, if y'all want to trade it,
we'll send him, send him to his old court.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's that's John, That's not Jill.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
But anyway, Ojo, McCarthy with a Harball worked well in Michigan,
whereas the coach is gim not John.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
No ish.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Lamar being traded could be similar to the Mavericks trading
Luca Donget. The agent said, the Mavericks are were complaining
about Luca's toughness, taking care of his body work. At
Luca gets moved, he loses all that weight, he gets
in shape, and now he has a new lease on life.
Lamar might be the same. The key difference from Baltimore's
standpoint is that the Ravens, unlike the Mavericks, would be
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getting strong value in return.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
No, that not strong value. What struck man?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Y'all need to stop. At least Anthony Davis on Joe.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
At least Anthony Davis was an All NBA selection, an
All Defensive selection. He is a top seventy five player,
and he even won a championship. What the hell has
JJ McCarthy done in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I see you're going with that, Listen. I like the
move anytime.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I'll say this, I'll say this anytime their their rumblings,
their rumblings when it comes to a player of this magnitude,
that there's always a little truth to it. Yeah, you know,
where there's smoke, there's fire, you know. And if he's
gonna get traded, I mean, I like the destination of
Lamar actually coming home and and and the Dolphins being
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able to rebuild and doing what they need to do. Uh, Minnesota,
that's a nice destination as well. You pair your pear
god damn Lamar Jackson with one of the better receivers
in the league and in Justin Jefferson and Addison and Hockinson,
that would be oh hell no, that would almost be
unfair either way.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
But I don't want but I don't want J J.
McCarthy that people talk about, Oh that's great value.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That ain't no great value.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Who said it was a great value.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I guess the agent that's doing all this.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Talking don't know. He probably he probably needs his iron check.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
That's all. He needs iron check. But I don't I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But what I don't get, O Joe.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
He also said, and he finished up with this, if
Lamar were put on the block, even quietly, you are
to that that that that is not established at the quarterback,
you do whatever it takes to get him.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh Joe, they had an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Now there's no there, there's This is not to say
the Ravens wouldn't have matched, but he had a non exclusive.
You could have had Lamar Jackson for two first round
draft picks. You could have had him. Now again, that's
not to say the Ravens wouldn't have matched nobody. No,
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think about how many people needed quarterbacks three years ago.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
All these teams that have drafted.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Quarterbacks, whether it's Atlanta, whether it's Carolina, whether it's Houston,
whether it's the Saints, Uh, the Giants. I mean it's
a half of it's more than a half. The league
needed a quarterback and nobody took him. And he was
an League MVP at the time, So I'm comfused.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Regardless, Hu, he wasn't going to regardless, even if the
Ravens had the match, which is what they would have done.
He was Lamar Jackson was their identity. Lamar Jackson was
their team. He was the face of that franchise. There
was nowhere else they can go that would make a difference.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Can you imagine him in Atlanta on that turn in
that city? Oho, I.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Had to take my glasses off. Man. Listen, Hey, Breake London.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
With Jon Huh, with Kyle Pitts, with that, with that defense.
I'm not saying that the Eagle defense. I'm not saying
that the Bronco defense. But they're they're good enough.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I don't know, I don't know if they get Lamar,
they're gonna be able to get Bejon because they're probably
not going to be that bad to be able to ok.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
That age.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
So that would have been boy. Can you imagine him
in the backfield Lamar and b.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
John they think about them to run a RP O
Man stopped playing.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
But you know what I like Jon? I like Jean
is an eye back. If you notice most of his
stuff happened to die. If you go back and look
at if you look at Oho, you look at Saturday
the game, what formation did they have a king Henry?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
You were back there seven yards?
Speaker 5 (31:17):
He is on the line straight down hill with Pritchard,
with Pretcher right in front of him. Most of the time.
He like a Pretchell looking like looking like Lorenz O'Neill.
My bad, I said it wrong. Yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Hell, people don't realize he's three hundred pounds moving like that,
the four back ways three hundred.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Yes, hey don't hey he got Patrick. Yes, that's that's
a well put together three hundred. Because he don't look
nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I don't he don't.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
For sure he is here.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
They're throwing they don't really throw it to him.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
See, they don't use him like they use Caleus and
Sam Frank, Sam Frank. Hey, they'll throw They'll throw him
a screen, They'll throw him the ball down the field.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
He go down the field and catches like hold on,
how you get your you know.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
It's called count to a similar play we used to
call f to split where you know, to pull back,
fake it, get up the field and they throw it
to him behind the once the linebacker step up. But
they throw it the coleustchick going down the field. But look,
this is this might be.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
A lot of talk.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Like you said, oh Jo, there's a little truth even
in a lie, and maybe we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
We just know this. They're gonna have to do something.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
They're not going to let him play on that seventy
plus million dollar cap hit next year. They're going to
do something. This team is going to look different next
year than it does now. They've got to They've got it.
Is an absolute must. Other than getting Lamar Jackson contract
under control, whether you extend him or whatever, the games means.
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You've got to get past rushers. All you have to
do is look at last night's game, when they couldn't
get to the quarterback. You end up having a score
of forty two to three.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I got I got a question for you too.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
What if to be able to get the pass rushers,
what if you want to get the pieces that you
need to do and you you you end up letting
Lamar go somewhere else to have the cap.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Room to do just that.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
That defeat the purpose.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
But then that puts you further behind because then offensively,
where you go from there, exactly where you go from there,
because you're not going to get a quarter You're not
going to get another Lamar Jack.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Now, you're not gonna get an equal quarterback to.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Lamars because the ones that would be equal to that
are the league number one quarterbacks on other teams.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
They're dug in, They're not going anywhere. My problem is
is that the problem that I've had with this this
year's team is that Deck Henry should have had damn
near nineteen hundred yards.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Again, Yeah, he ain't that fault.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Look at when they give him the football twenty to twenty.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
The man carried it thirty six times and he wasn't tired.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
No, you do real oh, Joe, you do realize he's
like thirty plus yards away from fifteen hundred. Yeah, and
people like, oh, he had a quiet think about it.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
He was.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
He was like seventy yards away, almost eighty yards away
from two k. He's already gotten a two thousand yard
season on his belt. Then he comes Then he gets
a nineteen twenty one the first time there. Now he
comes back, he's at always fourteen hundred. Now we know
the Steelers are style against the run. They're gonna do
everything they can to try to take that away. But
I don't care take it away.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
I meant to say that yesterday too, especially when you
but you had to be so upset about your your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Sorry, honey, I forgot to say.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
I'm like, wait a minute, where you can give him
the ball thirty times a game, you know, and do
what you did last week, but you also playing the
goddamn steal his defense that you not for the just
impose your will on and run up and down the
field like.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
You want to.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I think he had.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I think he had he had about seventy yards last
time they played Ojo.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Yeah, them boy, them boys coming down here and they
coming to the party now.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
But the problem is is that it's just hard. Oh Joe,
you know, it's hard when you pay a quarterback that
kind of money to turn it to say, okay, well
we just hand the ball off. When you got a
Joe Burrow, when you got those guys like that, it's
just hard because I paid you all this money to
do what ojo for the football. But see, and I
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think the problem that we're running into that you run into.
Do we think any less of John L. Wade because
he had Terrell Davis?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
We don't. He won the Bowl.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Everybody says John Elway won two Super Bowls. He was
the MVP in his last one. Let that's ink end.
So if Lamar has to hand the ball, if Derrick
Henry has to run him to a championship, or if
James Cook run Josh Allen to a championship, so we're
gonna hold out.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
We don't hold out against Troy Aman. We don't hold
against Tad Bradshaw because he had Emmitt Smith and Terry
had Franco Harris.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
We don't hold that against him.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
But now, all of a sudden, now if a quarterback
and elite quarterback has a nice running back, well he
got carried. Do you realize I be looking up go
back and look at the Steelers and look at what
they had defensively and offensively. A Pro Bowl center, an
excuse me, a Hall of Fame center, a Hall of
Fame running back, two Hall of Fame receivers, five Hall
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of famers on defense, and a Hall of Fame owner,
and a Hall of Fame coach.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
But don't nobody say he got carried. Look at what
emmittt had.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Michael Learvins is in the Hall of Fame, Larry Allen
is in the Hall of Fame. Emmitt Smith is in
the Hall of Fame. Charles Haley is in the Hall
of Fame. Deon Sanders is in the Hall of Fame.
Darren Woodson is on the ballot to be in the
Hall of Fame. Nobody said, as these guys got carried.
John Elway, Shannon Sharks in the Hall of Fame. Gary
Zimmerman is in the Hall of Fame. To Real Davis
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is in the Hall of Fame. Steve Atward is in
the Hall of Fame. Nobody says seven got carried. It
depends on but we want to put because we want
to devalue the guy, because we want to problem. We
want to keep our guy up here. We'll devalue that
the hell with y'all.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Making up a reason on why, right, ain't nobody ain't
nobody look ah.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
There ain't nobody. Judge jayleen Hurst did that he threw.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, it's nice to have a running game, But ain't
nobody talking about no carried man.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Y'all, y'all gotta stop this.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Go back and look at the game, the Super Bowl
that Peyton won, and see how many yards they rush for.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Go back a look at it.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Damn I forgot who that was. That was who was
running edge? Was a running back?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
No, dad trading Joseph and Die and what's the other
guy name? They had almost two hundred yards rushing against
the Bears. But we gotta stop this. It's okay. At
the end of the day, I'm trying to win. I
don't care who's getting the credit. They're like, man, you
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ain't doing nothing in the Super Bowl. I got a ring,
and they got just as many diamonds as John's got it,
got just as many diamonds as TV's got. My ring
got just as many diamonds, and all three of those
guys with the MVPs my ring just as big as bears.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Well you got your ring in that with you?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Uh, uh, they had a safety deposit box and and uh,
and I want to.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
See you know, I ain't never seen no Super Bowl ring.
I want a few of them on mad.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
But Dominique roads roads.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Remember Dominique. And I ain't never seen no super Bowl
ring up closed. I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
But at them things and got mad. Them things so
big now, old Joe, Oh you're small. Yeah yeah, they
like normal size. I don't know, I don't know when
they got you remember those those ring those three finger rings.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Yeah, yeah, back.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I don't know when they started making super Bowl rings
that big, but that's what they are now. And I
think each year because somebody's like, oh, man, man, you
see the Patriots man, the Patriots ring this big, Well,
I gotta be bigger than there. And they said, man,
you saw the Patriots man, you saw the chiefe the
Chiefs like, I've got to be bigger than the Patriots.
And then you get, uh, you get the Rams saying
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I gotta be bigger than the Chiefs, and you get
the Eagle said I've got to be bigger than So
I mean pretty soon, o't joke. Pretty soon, I was
they're gonna get them medallion. They're gonna be looking at flavor.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
I'm I'm gonna get me a ring maid on.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Well you go to you go to jameson.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
John what I think there's only like that I can
call off the top of my head. Jostin's bow for
because Johstin and Balfor used to do class. Now most
everybody when they go to get rings b n B
A w n B A NHL Hill.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Yeah, Jada playing, he made a couple of pieces for me.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, I got a couple of pews from Jay's good
do man.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I like it, Uh, John Arbrod now is today it
would be if it's to beat to be determined whether
Lamar Jackson can play Sunday Night against the Steelers with
your crowd the AFC North Champ. Harboy said he's coming
off a very serious injury and he's working at it.
I think we'll know a lot more Wednesday, James Harrison
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and Uh James Harrison had some interesting thoughts on lamar
snoop hunting debate. Let's take a listen to what Deebo
had to say on he De Boy and Joe early
this morning.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
Right now, I hope Lamar comes back, bro because I
wouldn't right, you right want him him because the Hunt
League can get a gear right now that Lamar Jackson
can't get to or is afraid to get to because
he's gonna pull something. And I also think that with
Lamar in there, we gonna have a better chance of
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winning simply because the Ravens, I feel, would be stupid
enough not to give Derrick Henry the ball thirty five
to forty two.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Ah, I like what he said. I like what he said.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Oh, you like what he said. But when I said
that last thought you.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
I like what he said, but that's not gonna happen.
What's the first thing I said, Lamar? If Lamar is healthy,
he's gonna play.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Matter of fact, nobody's healthy this time of the season, right,
Lamar has a back in tusion with that need that
went to his back, right, So whatever he's to do,
he's playing his last game. Who gives him the best
chance to win having Lamar Jackson a quarterback. If Lamar
Jackson plays right, and then you have to worry about
the threat of Derrick Henry as well, and you have
to worry about the threat of Lamar Jackson and his legs,
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even if it's Lamar Jackson as seventy percent. He still
can be efficient and do things that other quarterbacks can't do.
I think it's it's okay use that for him, because
you know Lamar is hurt.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
What do you do?
Speaker 5 (42:13):
We're going to put the onus of the offense on
Derrek Henry's shoulders instead of Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
I mean as but if that's the case, why not
go with it? Why not go with a healthy guy?
Give me, give me Lamar. Since he's been back his
rush totals because he's he's running for a career low.
He was averaging fifty plus yards a game.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
You do have to understand Lamar. Lamar is a throw
a throw first quarterback. Now he's not just dropping back.
Oh my first read or my first reading out there.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
I'm not worried. I'm not worried about it. I'm not
I wanted a digression and lame mess your question. As
the defensive coordinator, you're more concerned about his arms or
his legs.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Both because it improved Hell as a passer. He just
threw for forty one five last year. What are we
talking about?
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I'm just ocho. I'm just saying I'm more concerned about
his legs.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Because he's a threat there as well. But this is
the same quarterback that just threw for forty one touchdowns
and five as Yes, he had Aaron Rodgers and Prive numbers.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Okay, in twelve Stars this year, Lamar Jackson is six
and six. He's thrown for less than one hundred and
ninety three yards per game, which ranks twenty fourth among
quarterbacks with at least ten games played. His three hundred
and forty yards rushing is a career low. And filling
in for Jackson, Huntley has won both of his starts,
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beating the playoffs Chicago Bears and the Green Bay Packers.
In those starts, Huntley has completed seventy nine percent of
his passes, two hundred and ninety three yards, two touchdowns,
no interceptions. He's also run four hundred and thirteen yards
and two starts.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Now, one guy in twelve starts have a three hundred
and forty yards rushing, another guy in two starts have
one hundred and thirteen yards rushing, and he ain't beat
no pushovers. Because I know what you want to say
in chat. I know y'all want to say, are the
Chicago Bears any good?
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Are they good? They are great?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
No, I'm just.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
They are great this year.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
So I'm just it's a it's a rhetorded question, though, Joe,
he ain't for you to answer them. So, hey, Chad,
are the Bears any good? Or do we think the
Green bat packers?
Speaker 2 (44:34):
An? That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
O Joe, I'm looking at it like since he's been back,
I don't know if he's afraid. And I think he's
afraid to run on Joe because he knows that hamstring
is not one hundred percent. And the last Oh, Joe,
you know, when you got a hamstring, you ain't finna
open up. I don't give damn what nobody say. Anybody
say you're gonna open up when you got some tweak
has never had anything to ye because if you had
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a tweet, ah nah Son, hey son, you got to
get it.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Bro, this is all I got. Ain't no getting Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
So it's gonna be Look, it's gonna be very interesting
to see. And I think the thing is the biggest thing. Look,
sometimes you have to save us for ourselves, Goto, because
like you say, we play football, we want to play.
We want to play that's in us. I want to
be there for my guys. But I think Lamar's gonna
have to be honest with himself. Can I I if
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the rubber needs to meet the road and I need
and I need to open up, will I be able
to open it up?
Speaker 2 (45:45):
See?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Oh joe, But they used to have the thing chat
anybody that's my age. You're a little older, you know,
they used to have a stock like in your car.
Oh yo, you can only master the pedal down so
far before it was Yeah, you do you want all
the now so far before? Stop on, Joe. But you
know we got slick. We take it out. Hey, So
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that's the question. Because they only wanted the car to
go so fast. That's also why they got that little
mechanism right there, oh joe, where the car hit that
far as it goes as far as it goes right there?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
But see, then guess what they say. You know what?
Speaker 1 (46:26):
They want to go faster. I want something to run
out of numbers. I don't know where it stop, go
back right, go back round the team.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Be t uh, Hey, I all that. Oh that's a
tough way. That's tough.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
But that's why you that's why you're the head coach.
That's why you make the decisions. You're gonna have to
assess this in practice. You have to look at him
in practice on Joe and see. And it's hard because
I don't.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Want to wait.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
When I go to the Jim Mojo, I don't really
be doing no warming up them reps count. I go
in the gym and get right up onto something and
start lifting. Jordan take by forty five minutes to warm up.
I said, Man, them reps they count. I got like
sixty reps in me. If I warm up a twinty,
I got forty reps. I ain't doing all the No,
I'm good to go. I get in there, Hey, I'm good.
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Get you paid. So that's the thing is, O Joe,
I don't want them to do anything that that a
jeopardizer or aggravated or irritate. Aggravate means to work, make worse,
irritate means to bother. I just don't like a gnat
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like a fly, O Joe, that bothers them fly. They
don't make things worth. Ain't nothing gonna be?
Speaker 4 (47:52):
Yeah, I just don't.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
I don't like the discourses with Lamar having it down here,
having injuries to deal with and now we help stay
out of you know, the facility in the organization and
about trading and just stuff like that. It just it
just shouldn't come about because you would never hear anything
like that about Patrick Mahomes. You never hear anything like
that about Joe Burrow, Josh any of these other top
top tier quarterbacks like La Jackson.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, when you see Josh, what didn't Josh get that money?
Speaker 1 (48:17):
You see, Josh got his money because remember they said
they was gonna take care of this Lamar don't need
to worry about anything. So I don't know if that
was in the back of his mind or Joe he
saw what Josh Allen got. Josh Allen got paid, got
two hundred and sixty five million, fully guaranteed three hundred
and three you know, guarante, whatever the case may be.
With Joe, And I don't know if that maybe that
was in the back of his mind, maybe like, oh, bro,
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y'all told me, y'all gonna take care of me.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
I wasn't gonna be in this situation. But yet ye.
Speaker 5 (48:44):
And it's the thing about it, if you don't want
to take care of him, go ahead and let him go.
Somebody else will play play Clay, play stupid games, win
stupid prizes.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Absolutely, absolutely, So we're going to find out. We'll we'll
know more. Tomorrow is an off day, nobody really doing
anything then. But as Wednesday and Thursday, we'll see how
he's progressing. They'll start saying Lamark. You know, they're probably
not gonna have Lamar do a whole lot while practice
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is open, the media is there. They normally come the
first fifteen minutes of an open practice and then they
have to get out of there, so they won't The
media will not have a really good indication of what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
But we'll see Friday and as the week.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
As it wanes down later in the week, as it
moves closer to Sunday, we'll see what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Damn Man.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Adam Schefter estimate the Steelers Ravens upcoming NFL season finale
will have a border a broader implication on John Harbar
and Mike Tomlin's job security. Schefter said today, somebody's going
to lose that game, and somebody's going to lose. And
when somebody loses that game, we heard the Steeler fans
channing fire Mike Tomas Earlier this year, we've heard Ravens
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fans saying they could should be a conversation about John
Harbaugh after the season. One of those fan bases is
going to be unhappy. Sheefter says in the realm of
possibility that Mike Tomlin leaves the Stealer where they lost
on Sunday and goals does TV next season or coaching
somewhere else in twenty twenty six, Oh, Joe me, I
don't see a scenario in which Mike Tomlin leaves and
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goes into TV. But what do you think is gonna happen?
What like, like you said, somebody gotta.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
Lose, somebody has to lose. Honestly, on I don't see
Mike Tomlin. One thing the Seedlers have never done. The
Steelers have never fired anybody. They've never fired anybody, if I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Not well, not anybody since nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 5 (50:43):
And I don't think it's gonna happen now. It's never
been a part of what they do. I just now
Harball on the other instance, I mean, are the are
the Ravens closer to winning with Harball at the helm?
Do they need another voice? You always say in that
building may maybe so, I'm not sure how they feel
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about them. There's so many different things that need to
go go right for the Ravens now for them to
get back in contention and be able to compete, you know,
for the Lombardi no year in a year out the
one they gotta.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
You gotta get your quarterback situation right.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
I don't think either. I don't think either is close.
Speaker 5 (51:26):
But listen, well, changing coaches put you further behind the ball.
It don't put you no closer. You take, tear it
down and build it back up.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
That makes your question, did it uh move Chicago closer?
For other way?
Speaker 4 (51:43):
What do they have in place? What's the one important
piece of every team?
Speaker 2 (51:47):
You say they got Lamar Jackson, you say they got
it what they need?
Speaker 4 (51:51):
What? Damn?
Speaker 2 (51:52):
I need you to make up your mind. Either Lamar
is that or he is Yes, he is that.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Okay, So the quarterback is going to do what we're
talking about. Coaching, we don't move, okay.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
Okay, okay, change and changing the coaching well hell coaching.
Speaker 5 (52:08):
Harvard don't play defense, he don't play dB and he
definitely ain't no defense in.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Y'all. You know what?
Speaker 4 (52:17):
You know what pieces your team need to be able
to compete, and they don't have it right now. They
just don't.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
I don't think either team is close, And I don't
think either team is close with the coaches that they have.
Speaker 4 (52:30):
How about this, What do you think about Brian Floyd
is coming up coming to Baltimore?
Speaker 2 (52:37):
Who is gonna be as oc do I think? I? Look?
Speaker 1 (52:41):
I me personally, they need personnel. They need better personnel
on defense. They need they need a right guard, but
they need defense at the end. Yang could they use
another receiver?
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Yeah? They need big.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
I mean, I don't know what what what happened with
Rashad Bateman this year? He is a bigger receiver. Uh,
but they need they need a big receiver. Watch Kansas
City gonna go get a big receiver.
Speaker 4 (53:15):
God damn Candy City got a slew of them boys
over there.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
I mean we I mean we talked about she Rice
last year like he was the second coming.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
Ain't got a huge catch radius? When you got guys
five eight, five, nine, five ten on your how big
is the catch radios?
Speaker 4 (53:32):
Right? He tall?
Speaker 6 (53:33):
Ain't he?
Speaker 4 (53:33):
I thought he was like six four six five.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Please?
Speaker 4 (53:37):
Oh, I'm but you know on TV, I ain't never
seen him in person?
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Boy, how tall? Right? Six foot?
Speaker 4 (53:45):
He looked tall as hell on TV.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
No, he doesn't look tall to me. They said he's
sixty one.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
Okay, so he uh he?
Speaker 2 (53:54):
But how tall is Hollywood? Okay?
Speaker 4 (53:56):
Hollywood short?
Speaker 2 (53:57):
They short?
Speaker 4 (53:58):
I mean I see them all the time. They from
the crib.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Mm hmm how tall? How tall is h Yuju? Is Juju?
Six foot tall?
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Juju not tall either?
Speaker 2 (54:11):
The Juju six one?
Speaker 4 (54:13):
Shoot, I'm six four. They could bring me back.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
I think I might be able to run Juju though.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
Juju never a burner unt burner.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
So if he wasn't a burner eight years ago, how
fast is he now?
Speaker 4 (54:31):
A little bit slower, a tad bit. He might not
know it?
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Oh he knows it.
Speaker 5 (54:39):
You know, Hey, a A these team need a weapon. Man,
I'm always available. I'm always available.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
I look at it like this here, Oh Joe, If
a team can five Bill Belachack with six Super Bowls
and ten Super Bowl appearances, guy, dang, they can five
Mike Tomlin and John that.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
When listen, when you when you use that analogy.
Speaker 5 (55:05):
Perspective, you know, for for better context, that's that's that's
a possibility.
Speaker 4 (55:11):
But you gonna understand.
Speaker 5 (55:14):
What message are you sending your team, your players, and
your fans when you say, you know what, we're letting
Harball go, We're letting Mike Tomin go, We're starting all
of it from scratch.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Let me ask you this when you throw, we throw
furniture and putting new furniture in, and what messages you sinding?
Speaker 4 (55:33):
Well, you ain't got the good you ain't got the
furniture to bring in. How about that got what you
mean what furniture're gonna bring in?
Speaker 2 (55:42):
A new coach's furniture?
Speaker 4 (55:45):
Damn you you got new furniture. We still got the
same people sitting on it. What's ship?
Speaker 2 (55:51):
What's gonna be the difference?
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yeah? You the same people when your grandma got new,
got a new catch it got the old count your stack, yo,
You and Chouncey was still had your ass hold the couch.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
Hey, hey, hey, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (56:11):
Like all Jesus side, the Ravens organization, the Steelers organization,
they have some tough decisions to make.
Speaker 4 (56:19):
I'm very very very tough ones.
Speaker 5 (56:22):
And and and honestly, for me, the fact that the
way Lamar is being done because he's had this one
injury see this one injury prone season and the stuff
coming out about him that we knew nothing about, and
all of a sudden, people that are not in that building,
they all of a sudden know about It means just
coming from inside the house, you know.
Speaker 4 (56:42):
So you know at that point, I I would much.
Speaker 5 (56:45):
Rather him have new scenery, go somewhere else, and and
and and start and start over.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
I give a prime example, look at Andy Reid.
Speaker 4 (56:58):
They fired Andy.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
He went to Kansas City. Now he's the Hall of Fame.
Now you can make a case that he's a top
five coaching in the game. Jeffrey Lourie had to say,
you know what, you was taking us as.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Far as we can go.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
Maybe Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh is taking these teems
as far as they can take them. Maybe it's somebody
else need to navigate.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
And that's okay.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
I'm not saying they're bad coaches, but maybe it's just
time for a different voice to be heard in the
locker room.
Speaker 4 (57:43):
Damn, hey, ye, that time for a new voice.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
Outlier.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
Everybody's outlined. So what what was Tom Brady? Tom Brady
with he's an outlier. Let me get this right. Peyton
Manning he's an outlier. Of course they're outliers.
Speaker 4 (58:04):
Well, I'm just saying, so what you just hold so.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
You just hold on to him.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
I guess it sounds good. Though Mike Tomlin has never
had a losing season. I thought the job was the win.
I thought the job was to win and win championships.
So in the last decade, how close have the Steelers
come to winning a championship?
Speaker 2 (58:27):
Realistically?
Speaker 1 (58:28):
Let's be honest, making the playoffs just because you make
the player come on, because they've been They've lost the
first round every time in the last decade. So realistically,
how close have they been? I'm waiting on you Steeler fans.
(58:51):
I know y'all black and yellow and all that, the
terrible towels. How close Stealer fans? Realistically in the last
decade have you been to winning a championship?
Speaker 4 (59:09):
You know you got affiliation over there in Baltimore? Huh
you played that you want to ring there? You know
what that?
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah, But I'm realistic.
Speaker 5 (59:17):
I was realistic with the prom I don't even see
why I'm going with it though. That opportunity for you know,
a head, can you imagine that?
Speaker 4 (59:25):
Coach shark, no coach shark.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
I don't want to I don't want no part I
like talking about football. I don't want to look at
those tape. I don't want to look at tape and
try to evaluate players and bring players in and none
of that.
Speaker 2 (59:39):
You know that, you know, I got my time.
Speaker 4 (59:41):
Exactly what you're looking for?
Speaker 2 (59:42):
You know what you do.
Speaker 4 (59:45):
You don't be the perfect person for the job. And
that's that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
God, is what I looking for? You something about five
five seven five?
Speaker 4 (59:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (59:57):
I mean that's what I'm trying to evaluate. I mean,
see see you saying I know what I'm looking for.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Hey, hey, goody.
Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Okay, okay? How many? How many do they?
Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
How long before your approbation? You know, I gotturday thirty?
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Are you good?
Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
You good?
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
You good?
Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
You good?
Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
But I listen, I'm first one on board, Lamar. I
know shit, Lamar might be watching honestly, all hey, it's
so funny. All them all them boys be tuned in.
Uh and they don't even but they don't. They don't
type nothing in the in the chat. They be tuned in.
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Oh yo, insane. Statord Steelers are winners O four and
one of the last.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Five games versus teams entering with eight plus games below
five hundred times, the longest streak in NFL history, and
twenty two they lost.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
In twenty twenty, they lost to the Bengals, who were
two ten and one. In twenty one, they tied the
o and eight Lions. In twenty twenty three, they lost
to the two and ten Cardinals. In twenty three, they
lost to the two in ten Patriots. In twenty five,
they lost to the three and twelve Browns.
Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
Hey you think Sterling want to coach? What?
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
No, bro, I can't get it to come on once
a month, he tell my coach.
Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
I'm just saying, Hey, you're a brilliant mind when it
comes to the game, and I'm telling you are probably
what not only the NFL needs, but the players in
today's game need. Even the players it's a different era,
but you coming in with those your old ways and
mixing that and balancing it in moderation, allowing them to
have a little structural discipline.
Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
You keep denying, You keep denying God's calling, and that's
the problem. Yeah, I come be your assistant.
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Now. I'm good. Mm hmm. I don't watch enough tape
as it is. I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I ain't got time for guys to come and be
coming in late. Because I don't, I don't do the
excuse thing.
Speaker 7 (01:02:18):
They were not gonna come in late with you. That's
what I'm trying to make. I fake the figure because
I had to learn. I had to learn with Club
Shay Shay. Because you know, I'm thinking the interview. They
say one o'clock, they say twelve o'clock. Okay, twelve o'clock
we're starting. We're starting twelve fifteen, twelve thirty one, one thirty.
Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
You know two olock famous people. They famous people will
be on their own time. They ain't got no regard
for nobody else time.
Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
They're the one that set the time up. Yeah, they
how you set the time up in.
Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
Late head make up and all that. You notice when
we did our club Cha Shae, You notice I was
there thirty forty minutes early. I wouldn't go quite thirty
forty minute early, but you were, you were, You were thirty.
Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Forty minutes early because I was outside smoking a cigar.
I beat you there.
Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Yeah, I said it was gonna be at one o'clock.
I got there twelve forty five, and I
Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
Got there twelve ten because I knew I wanted to
smoke and drink my coffee outside and see, I'll be
on I be on time, like my God on time.
Host
Shannon Sharpe
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