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April 14, 2025 36 mins

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top NFL stories of the week, including Bruce Arians questioning Anthony Richardson’s readiness for NFL, Caleb Williams saying Eberflus “annoyed” the Bears with mishandling of the Hail Mary loss, & much more!

04:10 - Matt Eberfluse and Bears drama
10:17 - Deshaun Watson believes he’ll be back better than ever
13:38 - Omarion Hampton joins the show
29:00 - Bruce Arians on Anthony Richardson readiness

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(02:42):
Eberflus handling up the infamous Hail Mary's loss Alloyd Blake
Bears players. Caleb william revealed how Ebraflu's handled it all
at the time for that game was I think one
of the things that throughout the locker room people talked
about and were annoyed by. Ebraflus had a hold on.
What about the dB that was joshing around with the fans,

(03:06):
what what about the cup? What about the what about
the accountability of the players if he was where he
was supposed to be. See, that's what annoys me about
this the millennial the gen z is that they want
to absolve themselves of responsibility, accountability. Now we see the guy,

(03:29):
he's over there doing this, the players going on, he's
making fun of the people and the fans who have
no impact on the game. And then the quarterback blames
the head coach.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Listen, you know how it is in situations like that,
we go of all that on Fridays. Yes, we go
over every scenario possible on Friday, just in case it happens.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
So let me ask you this, do hey, do what
you do? What you're doing. And the one thing that
we did do is that when we run those flows
and we practice, the guys of a defensive side, they're
not messing with the people in the sands. So, Caleb,
you don't mind me asking, So what responsibility? What was
that was his last name? Stevenson? Who's that DV number
twenty nine? So I just want to know. I just

(04:21):
want to hear him say what Tyreek Stevenson, Caleb Williams
as a guy to guys that played in the NFL,
what responsibility? What role did Tyreek Stevenson play in that?
I know you said there were things periorating throughout the
locker room that Ebon flews when you lost that game.
I just want to hear you say what role you

(04:43):
believe he played in that? Right?

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Now?

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Was this said recently by Caleb Williams or we not
mis killed? Were not misquoting anything he said?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
How Ebra Flues handled it at the time for that game,
I think was one of the things that throughout the
locker room people talked about and were annoyed by.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Okay, okay, I mean and listen, I'm not sure how
that's on the on the coach at all, because I'm
sure when it's done in Fridays and Friday's practice, whether
it be walked through or whether it be full speed,
I'm sure you're not messing with.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
If he's where he's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
It might the outcome might be different there.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
The outcome might be different.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Now, there have been times where people have done the
right way and it just so happened. They got lucky
and they caught it.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
You can live with it, but I can't live with this. No,
And that's what I'm say. And see what I tell people,
hard work doesn't guarantee you anything, but I believe it.
When I believe without it, you don't have a chance.
See o jo. If I go by something and I
work as hard as I possibly can and it doesn't happen.
It didn't happen. But when people have regret, if I

(05:59):
did and stay out so late, if I didn't drink,
had I taken it more serious?

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Come on that.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
You can have lifetime. You can have a lifetime of discipline.
You can have a lifetime of regret. Choose wisely. Hold
on that. Now, don't do that. Don't do that. I can't,
I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Say give me, give me, come on, listen, give me
that one more time.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
You can have a life discipline or a lifetime of regret.
For you to blame the coach when this guy, when
you see the guy joshing around the play is going on,
and then he's running as hard as he possibly can
to try, and then he's late. He's the woman tempt
the ball and let Brown catch it. Nor Brown catch it.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, he's supposed knock the ball down. Whatever you do,
rule umber one knock the ball down.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Dang damn. Yeah, I just that's that's what I don't.
I don't get I just he look it's over with.
Just just move on. He came out better, saying, hey,
look guys, that was that was last year. Hopefully we're
better in those situations this year. We got a new

(07:21):
coaching staff. Guys are excited. I get that's my rookie year.
I had some ups, had some downs. There's some things
I can do better. We will get better. We've improved
in a lot of areas. We've revapped the offensive line.
Guys understand me. I understand them. Hey, I'm very excited
about this season. But to talk about that play without

(07:42):
mentioning layer that should have been, I don't. I don't
get down position.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
No, yeah, most definitely. Hey, and one thing about them Bears, Uh,
I could tell you this now, I would just just
to finish on something positive. That God damn Cayler Williams
and Ben Johnson. Boy, the magic that they're finna have
and the chemistry they have.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
They got wrong. They got Roma Doomsay, they got Dj Moore.
They improved that offensive line by leaps and Browns, that
Joe Tooney. They signed a couple of guys, they got
three guys in free agency.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Listen, the offensive creativity alone itself. The Bear is gonna
be must watched. They're gonna be must watched. I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I'm excited for him. But they don't have a choice.
Excited because the choice in that division. The Packers are
in that division, Minnesota's in that division. What choice do
you have if you don't get better against what you'll
finish the last again like you finished for the last
several years.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Mm hmm. Hold on, let me use the back real
quick on.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Hold on, Oh show, oh Joe, Deshaun Watson say he
will come back better than he ever was. Everyone don't
think I can get back to where I was. I
believe the work that I put in that I believe
in myself. I know I'm gonna be way better than before.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Hey, that's where it all started. Huh, that's that's that's
where it all started. That one of the problems with
Deshaun Watson in previous years, based on how you look,
is it looked like it's confidence was shot. It looked
like a confidence was shot. I even asked you before.
Why does it seem like other quarterbacks that come into
the game that play in the exact same system look
that much better than he does. Why would Joe Flacco

(09:26):
coming in and leading them to clean the Brown to
a first round playoff? Berth Why does the offense look
completely different every time somebody else is at the helm.
For one, I think Shawn might might might not have
been all the way fully healthy, you know. Outside of that,
I think it's confidence for Shot, and you could tell
by his decision making when he was playing. I don't know, listen.

(09:47):
I hope he gets back to the older Seawan that
we used to see in and make that AFC North
that much more interesting, whereas A it's a it's a
four quarterback battle, you know for the top.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I mean, well, you know, three quarterback because talk called
Kmar and tell him to go ahead and send me
those cigars who k Mark?

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Oh I forgot k k O listen now, I don't
want to listen. I don't play by my cigars now,
no one thing about it. I ain't heard from him since.
I ain't heard from Kmar since, and I would hey, listen,
I would hate it. I would hate it. I would
hate I would hate to have to jump on him.

(10:26):
I would hate I would hate to have to do
a twin.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I'm gonna calling themorrow. I'm gonna say, k Mar, just
go and send that to me.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Hey, don't do that.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Seventy games lunatics and them. Daniel Marshall's They.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Listen, he's seeing my cigars. I probably had too. I
have I probably had to whoop.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I'm just between you and m But I'm gonna get
them cigars. Cigar. You know my brother loves cigars. Now
he don't. He don't.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
He don't smoke them, kind though you don't smoke them kind.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, he don't. He don't smoke them, but he will.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Hey, hey, chat, y'all tell Kenya Martin man, make sure
I need he got three days? He got three days?
Because if he got three days to get my cigars
to Miami, or I'm gonna come on Gill's arena, I'll
fight l A. I whoop Keny Martin. Matter of fact,
I whooped everybody on Gills podcast.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Why you want to whoop everybody? But you don't want
to pay.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Me because it's guilty by association? So Gil gonna get it?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Can you? I guess what? Whoever? I gotta whip you
all the kids, Chauncey, everybody guilty by associations?

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Hey, my kid, my kids all jump you boy?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
What I'm looking for my kids?

Speaker 4 (11:29):
You don't want no smoking the boys?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Hey? All that said? Hey, this for your daddy. Hey, daddy,
pay this man. Hey, Hey, you remember how they call
what you call him? They called little man out there,
Saint Louis. How he did it? Hey, with Saint Louis
caught it and they put it, put his head the
car and then put that note, put the cigarette out

(11:55):
on his nose, and he with that told dollar Bill. Oh,
he said, man, you need to pay this man for
somebody to get hurt. No, you won't get hurt. Ain't no,
somebody you And that's funny hambling and all that he's
been injured.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Hmmm, that's tough.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
We could continue this. We'll come back after this old
show actually connecting now. Draft pick Amrion Hampton. He's a
second team of AP All American First Team All acc
running back finalist for the Dope Walker Award. Led the
team with fifteen rushing touchdowns, ranked third in the FBF
with sixteen hundred and sixty rushing yards. A former Gatorade

(12:37):
in North Carolina Mister Football Player of the Year and
winner of the States Mister Football. Where your Eyes set
on unc or? Oh no, a Marion, I'm about to read.
I'm about to read everything for you. Bro.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
How you doing, Bro?

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I'm doing good of us.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Roll.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I see you repp in c AA. So that's the
agency that you signed with.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just recently enjoyed them.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
Uh, they've been with me through the past season, so
I felt pretty good about them.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Congratulations. Let me ask you this your gator Rade, mister
North Carolina. You're arguably you're obviously so you win that award.
That means you're the state's best football player. Why did
you choose you UNC? Did you want to stay at home?
Did you did you go to Georgia? Did you Alabama
or anybody else? What was it about UNC that says,
you know what home is where I want to be?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (13:34):
Yeah, I I took the official to Florida. I took
the official to Auburn, Penn State, and then UNC, and
then I kind of narrowed it down the Penn State
in UNC, and then I kind of was just always
up in UNC. It's like fifty minutes from my crib.
So it's like I got another teammates, I got another coaches.
I feel like it. I feel like the playing style

(13:56):
they had at the time, the offense they had at
the time fit me well. So that was a big
part of it too, So I feel like all of
that put it in together.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
So hey, I want I want to ask you about
your combine experience. My combine experience being very nervous, uh,
the unfamiliarity having to be in front of scouts, being
in front of you know, that many people, and the
pressures that came with it. How did it was your
apperience as combine and how do you feel you did?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, I feel like it was definitely different.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
It was something I had to just to just being
in like meeting at the meeting, at the meeting, just
going into that and then having to like run your
forty and do like all the competitive stuff on the
last day. But I feel like I feel like I
did good on it. I feel like I was prepared
for it. I feel like Brent the guy was training
with Brent Callaway h did a good job with all

(14:47):
his players and stuff like that. I feel like he'd
been helping us prepare for it well. So I feel
like I feel like I did well. So it was
it was a good experience just to get to talk
to all the head coaches and stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
It was really cool.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
If you had to take a guess on the coaches
that you talk and you know how you can get
a feel. You can get a feel on who likes you,
and you kind of get a feel on who based
on the type of questions they asked you, based on
how in depth they get with the personal questions outside
of the game of football. If you had to take
a guess, who do you think is leaning towards the
drafting you on draft.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
A Yeah, I mean, I mean, whoever picked me off
be happy with it. But I mean there's a lot
of teams to need to run back, so I mean,
whoever pick me gonna get the best of me. Really,
I feel like I kind of don't look at all
the draft my jazz and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Because that's why I'm gonna take it. Because a lot
of the mock draft, the latest mock draft have you
go into the Broncos Now if you need to hook up,
you know, I know some people. If you look at Mario,
if you look at it, you see what sat Kwan
was able to do. You see what jamiir gives, and

(16:01):
you see what Josh Jacobs, and you see what King
Henry we see. You see the researchers. There was a
stretch for about a decade, the running back was not
as not a decade, probably say six seven years, the
running back was not as valued as it seems to
be currently is and coming back, Why do you think
that is? And what can you add if a team

(16:23):
I'm drafted, I draft tomorrow, y'all tell me what type
of player? What type of person am I getting?

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Well, I mean it's just for me. I feel like
I love to see it, just.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Like that Derrick Henry Takuan is just them doing their
thing out there. I feel like it's putting more value
in the position itself. I feel like if the team
drafts me, they're gonna get a three down back, They're
gonna get a guy that plays special teams.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
They gotta go.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
Everybody can run in this league. So I feel like
passing section is a big thing I can on. I
feel like catch not the batfield is another thing that
I can on. Just learning the defense, learning like where
the stations are, learning with how the linebackers move like that,
Just different things like all the and depth stuff like that.
So just different stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Unless you run back punts a kickoff and I don't
know if they're gonna put you out there on special team.
You might your last special team college.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Matter of fact. Matter of fact, I'm glad you just
said that. You said you were three that back, and
then you said what you can do protection. Then you
brought up being able to catch the ball out the backfield.
So that makes you that much more valuable than other
running backs that can do all those things, right, I
telling you, it does that. It makes you special. So

(17:40):
in hindsight, when you think about the type of running
back you are and what you bring to the table
depends on who drafts you. Who would your NFL comparison be,
right now, as far as your playing style goes.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Yeah, yeah, for me, I like tot to like a
lot of guys, like take tips off a lot of guys.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
I feel like, uh, Jim, it's kind of like a
running start.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
I feel like I try to watch like I like
Gibbs running style, Like I feel like Jon is gonna be.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Crazy in the future.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
I feel like I feel like all those guys really
just like I feel like everybody.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
UNC has a great running I mean, now we.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Just saying I like the Joe Maxon repairs and that's
a good one. That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I'm looking at some of the I'm looking at some
of the running backs just come out of you and
see Todd Chandler, Michael Carter, Javonte Williams, and now yourself.
Have you talked to any of those guys. Have they
given you some in some tips about how to prepare
for the NFL? What is like once you get there
in order to give you because you know, you kind
of got a little GPS. You got guys that went
to your school that can partake information that a lot

(18:55):
of people don't have.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like, uh, Javontay, Mike Carter, Todd Chandler,
I was like, even the sun means I feel like
these are all my gods. I can talk to him
when if I need talk to He's the dog. Yeah,
I can't talk to him whenever I need to. They
help me out with stuff I need to. I take
tests off them too, So I feel like, yeah, they're
always a connection for me.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
I feel like.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
North Carolina used to have some great running backs. I
don't know if you're probably a little young, but Derek Finner,
famous Amos Lawrence went to North Carolina. Oh but Derek,
they ended up moving to tight end once he got
to the NFL, but he was an outstanding running back
at u n C. Let me ask you. I want
to ask you, this bro you named after Marion will
be too K.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I don't think so, Caunse.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I've been proud of him. I don't know if I
ever seen somebody would have made like tomorrow y'an is
so tamp I'm like, oh no, let me ask this
man your mom about it? Like beat two K back
of the day.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
They definitely they used to just listen to him, But
I don't know if I was named of him.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
I got one.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
So you and see responsored by Jordan Brand, right if
I'm not mistake? Yeah, yeah, going into the NFL, Going
to the NFL, who would be your dream partnership to
be a part of going into the NFL? Would would
you like to continue with Jordan Brand? Would you like
to be with Obviously that would be Nike as well,
but you know, Jordan Brand had the own select players

(20:23):
that are part of you know that that are part
of Jordan would like to be with Nike Adidas?

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I mean yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
Yeah, right now, right now I'm with Nike, but uh yeah,
right now, like yeah, I like it.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Bro, It don't matter cleats on feet, I mean people eat.
So that's what you're trying to do right now. It
don't matter. If they could be pony, they could be soccery,
they could be poor. Hey on feet, people eat.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Hold on, Remember you had pony cleats too, I did?

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yes, what point ponles my freshman year had converse? Had
converse to converse?

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Okay, okay, okay. When you're not grinded, right, when you're
not grinding, what's what's your go to chier move while
you're a gamer? You like music, you like movies. What
you be on outside of the game of.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Football, outside of the game for all?

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Uh, I probably would to bill the boys playing basketball,
I'll be hooping on We're going over like to the
Yeah yeah, we'll be over at the rec center hooping
over there.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Okay, so you're not a game, no game, no mad
no FEFA, no, no call of dude.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
No, yeah, I'll be on call of duty, like all right?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Married?

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, I got a girl, but I ain't married.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I ain't married. Keep making stay focused. Yeah, let me
ask you, let me ask you something. Give me your
top five running backs. If I said, okay, you get
any any five running backs? That you want from any era.
I mean, yeah, give me your top five running backs.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Uh, I'm saying you gotta put ready Reggie Bush in there.
I feel like you gotta put him in there. I
feel like, uh, I feel like growing up, I was
to be Marshal Lynch. Okay, I feel like Marshon Lynce
is in there too.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah yeah. And then let's see, I gotta put Saquon
in there.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Okay, I like this.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Quon. Now I'm gonna do. Uh, I'm gonna put Derrick
Henry in there.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Put Derrick Henry and then, uh, I'm probably missing I'm
missing a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, you missed a lot of people because you ain't
putting nobody that came before two thousands. You do, Hey, No,
they didn't play football before two thousand, bro, I just
wanted to. I just that's your list. Hey, hey, I
want you to take off all your lists. But they
did play the gable football before two thousand.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah. I go out a lot in this school now.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Capping up, But you said you like Joe Mixing, So
are you more like? You more run for power? You
run more for like? Are you shifty? I mean your combination?

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah? Yeah, I try to add everything to my game.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Really, it's always room to grow, trying to grow to
do different things, and feel like trying to make them,
make them just and duke and space, make them do
different things, learn learn off different people. So I feel
like as a hall as them to go to do
different things. I try to be versatile, versatile as much
as I can.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Right, well, bro, we want to miss thank you for
joining us.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
I got one more question.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Go ahead, I got one more question.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Football didn't exist now, obviously we all need to have
a plan B. You just never stand for not for long.
I'm not wishing nothing bad. It's just a question in life,
if you're playing me if football didn't exist. Let's say it,
what would your dream career be if you wasn't playing football.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
I feel like even what I'm doing now, I feel
like if I wan't like personal training with football, I
feel like I would do personal training with like just
fitting and stuff. So I feel like, uh, going around
doing personal training training with like kids who didn't have
like the opportunities that I had, and like smaller neighborhoods
and stuff like that. I feel like that's something I
wanted to do in the long run, just reaching out

(24:28):
to those kids, giving them opportunities that I had.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
So I feel like that's one of the things I'll definitely.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Look into that. That's dope.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well, oh, thanks for giving some of your time. We
wish you the best of luck. Wherever you go, bro A,
it's not where, it's not how high you go, it
is where you go. And once you get there, the
journey really starts. Your journey doesn't start just getting to
the NFL. The journey starts once you arrive in the NFL. So, oh,
you and I want to wish you best of luck.
The Nightcap family want to wish you the best of
luck and check back any when it's down the road.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
All right. Appreciate yeah, appreciate you trying.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
You don't forget Donald.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
And that's what Marion Hampton, the University of North Carolina
running back, projected to be a first round pick. Mark
had him going to the Broncos, but we'll see. Since
there has been a resurgence. We saw what Saquan did
for the Eagles. We saw what Derrick Henry did for
the Ravens offense, Josh Jacobs for the Packers, Jamiir Gibbs

(25:27):
for the for the Lions. We saw Joe mixing what
he added to the Houston Texans and so, uh, the
running back is kind of like a coming back. We
saw the year before what c Mac did for the
forty nine ers. Yeah, so the running back is definitely
coming back. Guys that can run can catch it, but

(25:48):
you gotta be able to pass block, because once they
found that you can't pass block, they're gonna bless you.
They're gonna make you stay in the time they go.
They gonna make you stay. They gonna make you stay
in Ojo. So we wish the young man the best
of luck. O Joe Bruce, arian regarded as the quarterback risker,
spoke about Anthony Richardson. He said, Anthony, I think needed

(26:09):
two more years in college as a passer. I didn't
see him as being able to beat anybody in two
minutes and third down. If you can't do that in
the NFL, you're just an average guy.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Like he's right, he's right.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Have you got it? You got third?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
O Jo.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
You make your money on third down.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Every time you listen, you hope, you hope to make
your hair on first to make second and third a
little easier. Yes, if you don't the better the passer
you are, the more easy it is convert those third downs. Now,
obviously I think the repetitions. Obviously being in college would
help him tremendously if you look at the numbers. I
don't have the numbers in front of me, so I
don't want to stay and be and be and be

(26:45):
wrong statistically. But he didn't play that many games in college.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
That's why he said he should and he wasn't. He
wasn't a high completion percentage guy in college. So with
not playing a whole lot, and I get why he
came out. O yo. Yeah, the guy's a top five pick.
Oh yeah, he got twenty five million dollars probably fully guaranteed.
They ain't paying that in nil and collective. So I
get why. I get why, you get why. His family

(27:14):
gets why because at the end of the day, why
we're doing this, Sojo, were trying to set our family up.
That's how. That's how I'm not saying, Oh, let me
take that back here, Ojo. There's no such thing as
all of every but a lot of us. What we
do this for is for our family. We're trying to
get to the bag as soon as we possibly can
because everybody didn't grow up like a grand Hill that

(27:38):
had a two parent or the Mannings or the Watts.
So we grew up in a situation. A lot of
times it's grandma, a lot of times his mom, and
we trying to get there to get them out of
that situation. So I get why he did it right.
But what Bruce has said, and I totally agree, he
could have gotten a lot more by staying in getting

(28:00):
better at his craft. But at the end of the day,
and the two minute drill and on third down is
as a quarterback where you make your money.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
You got to have it. You got to have it.
But but who's to say there are a lot of quarterbacks
in the NFL that have made it, that have stayed
for four years, that have been there for a long
time in those same situations and convert third downs.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
So just what his big messages, Ojo, two minute drill,
third down. If you can't do that, your average. So
he's not saying that he believed that he would have
been better. Look at Ba's record, Peyton Manning, Andrew Love. Uh,
he worked with a big Ben Roethlisberger had all those

(28:46):
guys in the early stages. Uh, he worked with he
had Carson. If I'm not I think he had Carson.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
And Arizona in Arizona.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, okay, so he knows of something about the quarterback position.
I like, B A B A gonna tell you like
it ain't no sugarcoat with BA. Now hey, if it
comes up, it's coming out.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yes. It was also one of the issues over the
in Tampa. Now remember, yeah, absolutely, that's why they sent
his ass upstairs.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Absolutely, so I believe, because here's the thing on Joe.
He's a fifty. He was a fifty maybe a fifty
percent completion guy in college. If you're fifty percent in college, fifty,
he's forty six. Put it like this here, he had
a worse completion percentage than t Bow in the NFL.

(29:38):
And you know t Bow was forty seven percent. It
was worse than t bows. So you're not going to
be successful forty oh Joe, with the way to fill
his space. Now, the way they protect the quarterback, the
way they protect the receivers, everybody should be completing sixty percent.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah yeah, actually you should speacause to me, I'm not
saying the game is, but they made the offensive game
much easier. Yes, and so That's why that's the defenders
and defensive handicap.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
So now it used to be if you completed in
the high fifties or you had a hell of a season,
oh yeah, lot a hell of it. Nineties when I
got to the league, and even before Ojo, if you
threw for three thousand yards was the standard. If you
threw for three thousand yards because everybody ran the football.
That's why many believe Dan Marino still has the greatest

(30:30):
statistical passing season. Even though they passed him for yards,
they passed him for touchdowns. He threw for forty for
five thousand yards and forty eight touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
In that era, the running area, yeah yeah, duper, duper
and Clayton was eating boy.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Boy, did you know what they did? Look, I came in.
When they knocked you, they knocked your ass off. There
was no part of the quarterback that was off limits.
The only thing you couldn't hit him at the bottom
of his feet, and that's because he was standing on him.
Other than that, from the top of the head to
the top of your feet. You remember I sent you

(31:09):
that clip what Charles Martin did to a Jim McMahon.
He was just standing there and he looked around like, oh,
I got you what? Oh that was commonplace? Go back
and look, Bruce Smith jumps out sides. That's what they
call unovated to the quarterback, Bruce up the slides, knocked
Boomer sounds and out the game for like weeks, not

(31:32):
just the game for weeks, it was it was anything
goes anything, and so they made it easier. So for
a quarterback to be in the forties, right lord, that's it,

(31:52):
El Joe, he's got to get up to the mid fifties.
He's got to get it up to the mid fifties.
Oh Joe, I have a question.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yes, single quarterback struggling to have a high percentage or
a high complete percentage? Do you think that's because of
his supporting? The cast around him is not good enough?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Man? He got some he you see what he got,
the receivers he got. He got Jonathan Taylor in the back.
We had forgotten mentioned Jonathan Taylor. We didn't mention him.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
And honestly, having Jonathan Taylor back there, it should make
anything having to do with the passing game that much
eff and easier. Yes, because I know they got I
know they got to say, I know they got a
safety in the box.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Absolutely absolutely, And you got Pittman. They got they got
another that's really good. They got I forget his name.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Though, number ten, number ten, Yes, yeah, a Chad who Oh. Hey,
I apologize. I apologize for the disrespect for young Bull
whoever wears number ten I forgot. I forget your name. Boy,
I'm telling you here out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Boy.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
You is the real deal. Boy, you the real deal.
And I apologize if I remember your name, boy, young
but you're a real deal. Oh yeah, what's his last name?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I can't, I can't. Oh, they got Michael Pittman Jr.
What's that? What's that? What's the other receiver? Alex Peers,
Alex Peers? That number ten downs? They got that, Josh Downs,
Alec Pears, Michael Pittman Jr. I think the tight end
is more Alex Cox. And they got Jonathan Taylor, and

(33:23):
they had Braden Smith. Took some time away, he was
dealing with some dealing with some things. They got a
nice offensive line. Yeah, there's there's no reason, there's none
right for him to be completed less than fifty percent
of his passes because he missed a lot of throws
on Joe, and I said, Bro, you don't have to
throw everything through the hurricane.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Gotta touch, you gotta touch. You gotta have some finesse
to your game. You gotta have some finesse. I'm trying
to think what quarterback is labeled of having a.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Very Mitchell Mitchell Mitchell is number ten.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
O Joe Mitchell A what do you donna know? His
first name?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Ad Mitchell? Yeah, whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
He could cook, Hey, he'd be cooking. Hey, brother Mitchell,
I apologize, I will never forget your name again. But
I'm gonna tell you one thing.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
You got nice receivers over there, Oh Joe.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
I'm talking about nice nice. And that was no reason
for Mitchell has a bigger role coming the season.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
There's no reason for him to be completing forty six
percent of his passes. With that tiving corps, that offensive line,
and with Jonathan Taylor in your backfield.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Well, listen, he might be better this year.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
You never know.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
You have a whole off season to work on things,
work on the things you need to work on, going
into having another mini camp, another training camp up under
your belt. You know, familiarity with the system you're in.
I think, I think and hoping, hoping this year, he pi, Yeah,
you got to. I hope hoping he plays with a
lot more confidence and he'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
You gotta put it. You gotta put the time in.
You gotta put the time in. And if he does
that case, remember we had we had Pittman on, Yeah,
who else we We talked to the people like, bro,
he can't be the first. You can't be the last
one in and the first one to leave. It's got
to be the first. It's got to be first verse,

(35:27):
the first one in, the last one, the last, not
the last, first, first, last. But hopefully, hopefully he gets
it figured out, because like I said, I think they
got it. Look, that's a very competitive division. You got
you got Houston, Houston, you got Lawrence, You're about to
have cam Ward in that division because look, if you

(35:50):
go back and study it, Oh, y'all, look at it.
It's a quarterback league. Look at the NFC East, Look
at the look at the MC look at the MC West.
What they have in the West. Look, he's the vision.
I'll tell you who's winning it. Yeah. Yeah, quarterbacks, because
that's what you got to compete against. I know they're
not on the field at the same time, but you
have to match him. You can't like, oh, our defense

(36:14):
gonna hold him if I throw for one hundred and
seventy yards, we're gonna No. You might win one or
two games like that, yeah, but you're gonna have to
match that production every time. So hopefully, hopefully ar gets
this thing figured out and get this thing turned around.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
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