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thirty three in the fourth quarter. What I say, Hey,
I want you all to let them get out there,
everybody because everybody, okay, gonna be able to say for
them all. Now what y'all saying?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
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nine and moved to five and two as they take
down the Atlanta Falcons twenty to ten. Atlanta falls to
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those guys out. O Joe. As we mentioned the night,
Mac Jones fielding again for brock Purty did a great job.
He was seventeen or twenty six one fifty two won
an exception, But it was a combination of ce mac
let him in rushing twenty four carries a buck, twenty
nine two tubs. He also led him in receiving seven
catches seventy two yards, along as seventeen on eight targets.
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He was mister everything, and they relied heavily on him,
and that's what you're supposed to do. And the defense
got out the pennis. They didn't really sack him a
whole bunch, but they pressured him, they hurried him up,
They made it rushing throws and they win a ball game.
They're now moved to five and two as the Falcons
fall to three and three. Oh, Joe W. Washington game,
What did you like about what you saw from the
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forty nine ers? Who you know, we've they've lost the
best defensive player of Bosa, the best defensive player and
Fred Warner. Do you know they they they've been banged up,
their quarterback, starting quarterback, fifty million dollars quarterback. He's out,
are you he's out? Kittle just came back today. But
somehow Kyle Shanahan is pieced it together, kept this team
(05:23):
together and they're five and two.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Hey, listen, mac Jones has been done a hell of
a job. He's done a hell of a job and
filling in for Rock Purtty after Rock Purtty went down.
It seems like they haven't missed the beat offensively despite
the injuries on obviously on both sides of the ball.
Kitt'll come back today. I don't really like the way
they used Kittle tonight. They used him as if he's
a blocking tight end, didn't really give him anything on
the officer side, off side of the.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Ball, you know, through the air.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
But Christop McCaffrey leading the way not only on the
ground but also also in the air. They had Juwan Jennings,
who I expected to be more of a contributor after
just you know, just paying him, allowing him to to
to get a feel for the offense and get some passes.
Kendrick Bourne, who just went crazy last week, if I'm
not mistaken, just went crazy week and he wasn't as
(06:08):
effective as he was from off from the standpoint for them,
but they still won the game. On the other side.
On the other side, of the ball the Falcons. It
was obviously a snooze fest. If you watch the game,
I'm not sure. If you watch you might have watched
it with the sound off. If you watch it with
the sound off, you might have been sleeping. It wasn't
exciting at all. It wasn't excited at all. They kept
trying to do the same plays over and over, outside zone,
(06:28):
outside zone, outside zone, but they couldn't really get Bjon free.
He couldn't bust one, bust one open tonight, Kyle Pitts.
They had some some plays, but they got on the ball.
Drake London, that's what.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, I thought he was involved.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
He had ten targets, but it just it just it
just wasn't enough.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Look the teams, Look, they're gonna have to beat teams
throwing the football. Teams are not gonna let be John Robinson.
We know what b Jon Robinson can do. We're not
gonna let him have the type of game that he
that Christian. You remember the other night, Joe again, we
saw ran the ball and.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
He was sweeping.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
We're not letting him do that. If Drake, if Michael
Pennix Jr. Can drop back and throw the ball and
beat him, so be it. But we're not gonna let
We're not gonna let that running back beat us because
he's special. We understand just how special he is. You're
gonna have to beat up your quarterbacks. Is gonna have
to beat us from the pocket. And you look, actually,
I want to put him on the move because he's
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not nearly as accurate on the move as he is
from the pocket. And you notice they brought some pressure
to get him on the move, and he was inaccurate
one thirty eight two forty one touchdowns, was sacked twice,
hurried a bunch, but they steined in him running the football.
Oh your twenty carries sixty two yards. That's not good enough.
That's that is not nearly good enough for this team
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in order to win, because they have to have some time.
And that's when they're at their best. When they can
get Alzire running the football, when they can get b
John Robinson running the football, that's when they're absolutely that's
when they're the Falcons are at their best. And tonight
they couldn't get the running game, and so they became
so reliant on the passing game. And I don't think
Pennix Jr. Is there yet. Drake London had ten targets
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on the four catchers. As you mentioned, Kyle Pince had
ten targets. He did have seven catches for sixty two yards,
which was probably one of its better games thus far
this year. But in order for the Falcons to be
what they think they can be, especially with this offense
in firepower, it starts with that running back. It starts
with him. He he is the look. He might not
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be he's the he's the boom story now, he might
not be the sugar. He might not necessarily be the
t But if you just dumped sugar and TN then
and puts water in there and ay, all the things
is gonna go. He stirs it. He makes every he
makes everything swirld. He makes everything back.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
If he makes everything better, and he makes everything go
offensively when you have a night like tonight, when the
forty nine er says, obviously the second level did one
hell of a job. With Fred Wanner being gone, Nick
posing me going the second level did the hell of
a job and stopping b John Robinson to the next
thing you have to go to you have to go
through your arm, you have to go through your pass
the game. Drake London, Mooney, Kyle Pitts, all those guys
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have to be able to to to contribute to the offensive,
offensive game plan and allowing Michael Pennix Junior to flourish
through the air.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I'm not sure. I'm not sure what happened. It hurt
whit whit? Why you took your hammet off?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Unk? Hey?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Any any anyway? Chat?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I think for Michael penningx Jr. If the run game
is not working with b John Robinson, he has to
be able to get back there and throw the ball.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
He has to. And then they throwing smoke screens.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
They throwing smoke screens the Kyle Pitts they throw You
heard me, they throw smoke screens to Kyle Pits That
that that that does nothing for him. That's nothing, that
does nothing for him. That he's not that kind of player,
and he's not that tweet and face.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Somebody have to make moves. That's not what he does.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You put him in positions like you did out there,
you know, and you put him out receiver and you
have complete mismatches. Use them that way, but I mean, listen,
I think they misuse them a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Outside of that, I.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Mean, look, oo, I would have liked to play in
today's game and catch because I'm gonna have a bunch
of catches because they throw so many screens and shovel
passes to the to the tight ends and all that stuff.
But putting me down the field, I'm trying to go
down the field. I ain't got to worry about nobody.
I ain't got to worry about the receiver kicking out somebody,
or kicking out somebody, or the running back blocking somebody.
(10:31):
Send me down the damn field. I know what coverage
you this, and so I know why vulnerable. So but look,
this is a big win for the forty nine ers,
and this is what you like when you sign a
backup quarterback. You want your backup quarterback to be able
to hold a court down until your starter comes back.
I still believe, I firmly believe they should have stayed
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exactly where they were. Tuck Matt Jones, you don't have
to give up anything. Now that those picks, those first
round picks and those second round picks that you had
to give up, think about what you're could have done.
Because they do a good job of drafting. They do
a great job of identifying a player and developing set player.
They do a great job of that. But Brock Purty
(11:15):
saved them. But going to get Mac Jones has really
helped them out this year because I'm not so sure
Mac Jones has been a starter. He's been a pro
Bowl player. He understands he's perfect for this system. He
doesn't have a big arm, he has great anticipatory skills.
He can throw on time. He understands. He's a smart guy.
He's not mobile, he's not, but he can do what
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Kyle Shanahan needs him to do in order to win
ball games. And that's all I need you to do. Son,
keep us afloat. I just a you got this life
for ja. Them lights do they have on? They stay
for twenty four hours. I need you to keep us.
I need you to keep us a float for twenty
four days. It's been longer because this is the fifth
game starting, O Joe. But I thought he played really well.
(11:59):
He got a uh you know, a couple of drops
in there, had a deep ball and number five, I
don't know what his name is.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Like Brodn Return.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
That's that's what you gotta have it, O Joe, because look,
we're playing with our backup quarterback. We got to help
him out, you know, Joe, Now you got to step
in and place. We gotta have everything we got. We
gotta make those tough coaches, excuse me, those tough catchers,
and that's what that's what they needed to do. So
uh oh oh, we gotta get this game. Everybody know
(12:35):
what happened. Pretty excited. What game you talking about? Don't
worry about it. You gonna find out in just a second.
Do what? Oh Joe, why you tweeting me? Man? You
ain't never tweeted me before, but all of a sudden today,
all of a sudden to day, you want to tweet
I ain't heard you.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
You most of the time. Most of the time, you
tweeting during the game.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You tweeting during the game, you though about, you know,
certain players, of how team is doing.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And it just it just dawned at me.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Somebody tweeted me and said, well, go check on own,
let's do a wellness check to make sure he's okay,
because he hadn't tweeted about the Broncos all day. That's
when I tweeted you. That's when I tweeted your I
just want to make sure you was good. I was okay,
it was.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
The Bronco scored thirty three in the fourth quarter. How
about this for I Ronnick, excuse me, how about this.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Before you say that you're not a conspiracy theorist? Are
you you long? But go ahead? All right?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
The Marrius Thomas wenting to the Ring of Honor. Today
the Marrius Thomas passed. He was thirty three years of age.
How many points did they score in the fourth quarter?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
On thirty three?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That ain't hey listen, that ain't number God for those
that for those that are conspiracy theorists, I.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Buy that one. I buy that one. I buy that one.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
The Broncos scored thirty three points in the fourth quarter
to come back and beat the Giants thirty three thirty
two three lead changes in the final two minutes. Prior
to the day, teams had lost sixteen hundred and two
games consecutive games when trailing by at least eighteen points
with six minutes to play. Le broncos thirty three fourth
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quarter points were the most points in the fourth quarter
by any team that had been shut out the first
three quarters in NFL history. We did that. We did that.
I did o jo. Before we getting to discuss this game.
Cameras call a very ticked off Brian Burns leaving the field.
Let's try to listen to what he had to say.
(14:43):
I guess we're not gonna be able to try to
hear what.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
He had I know, I not know.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I'm not deaf, but I showed him here nothing. I
can see him. I can see his mouth moving though.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, we didn't get the audio. So both Knicks was
twenty seven to fifty two, seventy nine two touchdown. The
Broncos ran the ball twenty four times for a buck
forty two suck. Courtland Sutton, Big Bill Games six catchers
eighty seven yards, Marvin Mims Junior six catches eighty five yards,
Evan Ingram, everybody was big that final drive. It was huge,
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and the Broncos pull out Jackson Dark. I was like, bro,
are you saying? Look? Man? I just knew it was
over O Joe because when he threw the past Doston middle,
the Broncos guys break it up and had come eighty
four from the Giants, get the ball and turn up
the sideline and go forty one yard. I say, you
know what, it ain't for us today. It ain't for us.
It ain't for us. But you know what, that's one
(15:39):
thing about my High. They got ghost in my High.
They got ghost. And if you're a Bronco fan, if
you've witnessed games, you've seen the Broncos dig themselves out,
whether it was John Elway, whether it was Craig Martin,
whether it was Peyton Manning, Hey, Tim Tebow. You've seen
some unbelievable comebacks in that state. And today was unlike
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any other that I that I've ever that I've ever
seen for the from the Broncos, Oh Joe, what what
did you? Let's take it from Let's take it from
the Let's take it from the Giants perspective, because Jackson
Dark was fifteen to thirty three two eighty three, three
touchdowns one exception. He was sacked four times. They ran
the ball thirty two times for a buck nineteen one.
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Dale Robinson was six for ninety five, Bellinger was three
for eighty eight. Uh scatter Boat ended up catching eleven
thirteen yard touchdown on third and eleven from the Giants.
Where where did the Giants go wrong? What did they do?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I think you know what? Every play counts.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
We always talk about that and how turnover sometime it's
costly and then make you pay double, you know, for
a team to.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Be able to come back. Thirty three in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
H field goals that a miss field goal to miss
that it miss obviously early the cast you on, they
cast you, They cast you in the back end. Outside
of that, Jackson dart, which you want to do. You
want to protect the ball. You want to protect the ball.
You can't throw interceptions. But what you what you see
from him, monk and just giving you a chance, when
giving you a chance offensively, having a nice healthy balance
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of the run and the past, and then him being
able to being able to be a dual threat and
make plays with his legs, extending plays, looking downfield and
and doing some of the things he did towards the
end of the game. Outside of that, you know, defensively, no,
thirty three, thirty three on thirty three point one in
one quarter, in one quarter, not not over a span
(17:39):
of an entire game. But that comes down to listen, Defensively,
we got, we got, we got, we gotta be a
little tight knit, we gotta, we gotta a little tight knit.
And obviously in those situations as well, offensively, you want
to hold the ball.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You want to choose that clock out.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
You want to choose some of that clockout, so they're
not able to come back, you know, from a deficit
like that and just one guy, damn quarter. So I
think this is the learning experience for Jackson dark Within
with it being just a four start.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But I think they're gonna be all right.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
For one thing, even though he lost the game, you
have to feel good at the Giants fan.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
You have to you got something special. Sca scaterboy. Gonna
have to understand, o Joe, you can't run over everybody
or you or you'll have no You'll have no memory
by the time you twenty five. I understand that. You look,
you everybody to play in the NFL. Everybody have a
certain level of toughness. Now, I ain't telling you what
(18:33):
somebody told me. I'm telling what I know. Would you say,
you don't have to prove how tough you are, It's okay?
What you Hey, he ain't gonna be able to remember
his name at twenty five. He kep gonna try to
head hunt people. Uh but I look, they they found
their quarterback. They they've identified their quarterback, and he was phronomenally.
(18:54):
He was really he was really good today. He made
the one mistake and the one thing that you can't
have to happen, even Ojo. Even if you punt the
ball away, you make them drive. You let them get
the ball back and they only have to go twenty
yards for a touchdown. So now you minimize the amount
of time that they that you've used off the clock
if you punt that ball away, Ojo, and they gotta
(19:15):
drive eighty yards, So be it unless you give up,
you know, you say, nothing cheap, nothing deep. As long
as you don't give up a bomb, it's gonna take
them a minute, minute, thirty, maybe even two minutes. That's
what you need. Time is your friend, not a score.
Time Ti Ti. And so that's the thing I thought.
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The Broncos look that was like Sean Pay, what are
you doing? What it is? You're at home? You're at home.
Guys did drop some passes, but I look, JK. Dobbins
needs more than fourteen carries. He had fourteen carries from
eighty one yards. But when you're behind by the margin
that they're behind, Ojo, it kind of takes you out
(19:57):
of running the football. So now I gotta throw. It's
hard to run yourself back into a game. You have
to throw yourself back into the game. But I thought
Sean Payton did a well enough job of still incorporating
a few runs here or there. The Broncos almost blew
this bro Why y'all fighting all out? Let them score?
(20:17):
They missed the pay Hey, let them score. Let them score.
Now you get the ball back with a chance that
because I was I was a fourgone conclusion that I
thought the guy was gonna make the bad So now
we get you know you're getting field goal range. Now
you make a field goal. Now you're going overtime. I
was so glad that they reviewed it and said it
(20:37):
was a touchdown and then gave the Broncos the extra
six seconds because it originally it was scored it with
thirty one seconds. They put an extra six seconds. Remember
when they killed the clock, it was two seconds every
second when you're behind. But I thought they did a
great job. Look at I mean, he looked like he
was throwing the ball. It was like a I don't
(20:57):
know what they did. Because Carbon Mims Jr. Is supposed
to run a scene to clear it. Cortland Sutton is
coming in on the docker for some reasons pulled off
and it looked like something was like and he pulls
his hand back, his memes, Okay, they get up there.
(21:18):
They kill it now from the inside. They love to
run this play. They put a Courtland Sudden in the
slot and they run him on the fade up the rail.
He's a great jump ball guy. He's a bigness. They
switched yes, yes, because guess what. The guy in the slot,
he don't want you to run a shallowcross, so he's
gonna be slighting inside. So it's gonna be an easy release.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
And every time it's.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Gonna be an easy release. So you got the advantage
on him. He ups over the top of him, catches it,
gets oute of bounds, come down, spike it and then
will look.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You know what obviously giants fans uh John and on
it John Marrow, right, yeah, John mar Brian Daveaul.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
John Marris, a Tish, the Tissh and lamorro fl brother t.
But they sold a ten percent minority stake. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I'm not sure they sold it to too.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
But if you haven't trials for Kickers tomorrow, if you
haven't trials for kickers tomorrow, you know who to call
because I'm I'm I'm probably the best kicker in the
NFL history because I've never missed.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And if you want somebody that's consistent that you.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Can count on, where you can win games on their
leg and they have one job to do.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
You have one job. You do one thing for a
two hour practice. You kick the ball. That's it.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
So I'm not too far away. I could be in
New York tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
They are those two miss pats definitely helped the Broncos.
And you look, I don't care what anybody says. It's
the flating. Everybody's high you high fiving on the sideline.
Oh yo, You're like, yeah, we just got a touchdown,
and then all of a sudden, the field then all
the kicker, the kicker. I don't care what anybody says.
(23:00):
It's like, oh, yeah, we're good, we are we No, bro, No,
we worked too hard to get that six points for
you to come out there and Jack, No, that's what point.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
And it's so funny. I was so I was so confident.
I'm watching the game, I'm like, well, god, damn, the
Broncos getting whooped and then somebody treat me, well, shoot,
I ain't heard from unk. Hey, Oto, you might want
to go check on unk Man getting there.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
You know what, whoop?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I see Jackson Dark go down there like a goddamn magician,
and he leaped, he scored.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You know, great effort. I'm like, oh, let me tweet Unk.
It makes sure I'm good over there.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
If I was looking.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Back up, I go to the bathroom and come back.
I'm like, what the hell happened?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I did the same thing. I let the dogs out
o yo, after the Broncos stored, and then I come
back in like a minute later. The Broncos got the ball.
I said, how the hell we get the ball? I
don't know how we got it, but I was glad
we had it. And the next thing, you know, I mean,
think about it. I think I read it stat that
says bo Nix is the first player in NFL history
(24:04):
to score to throw two passing touchdowns and have two
rushing touchdowns in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And that's that's that means defensively, mean.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
This hurt, o Joe. If you're a Giants fan or
you a Giants player, this hurts. This hurts or I'm
telling you I've had. I don't know if I've ever
had a defeat like this where we had such a
big lead, I mean, t loule team to score thirty
three points in the fourth quarter. I don't know if
I've ever had a loss like this, but this one hurts.
I mean I've lost the game, you know, walk off game.
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We lost, lost a couple of times to walk offs.
To lost to Kansas City one year. I think it's
ninety seven, got hit. I think a fifty four to
fifty seven yard field goal to walk it off. But man,
because you played well, you didn't turn the ball. Think
about it. You had one turnover, you had one pick interception.
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But see when did he throw the pick in the quarter.
Remember all tournatives are pretty equal. You turned this over
and you have this pick in the first quarter. Now,
now team just scored. Now you give them an opportunity
to score again. They're right back in the ball game.
Now they're that stadium is rock and I can just imagine.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I know some people had left because I see it,
but hey, I saw a lot of and I saw
the cameras moving. I said, yeah, Bronco, Bronco, they walk
rock in that stadium right now, and man, boy, I
can say football, and you can.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
You can say, hey, listen, you can say it. You
you listen, you worthy, you worthy of it.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
You can say football, you can say pig skin, you
can say Broncos country, let's ride.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
You could. I mean, whatever you want to say, you
can say it. I'm with you. I can't, I can't.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I got to put a foot of the mouth. I
gotta put a foot of the mouth. Hey, you can
put your role one too, you can put your rollbones.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Now. We don't want we don't want football. We want
to see what's in the locker. Oh, Joe, just I beg.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You take take your time. Listen.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I'm with you when you're right. I spoke too soon.
I put my foot of my mouth. Listen, I'm not
I'm not too wrong. Too many times that I was
wrong to night though. So one thing about listen, I
wasn't on the field. I wasn't playing defense. I don't
know where you're playing, even for the Giants.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So when you become a Giants fan, when you become
a Giants man, yeah, I mean stop telling you who
be Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I'm not listening. I'm not a Giants fan. I'm a
fan of Jackson Dark and it's excitement that he brings
to them.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Oh, he played for the Giants, so that means you
root for him, you root for him, you root for them.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I like scatterball. I like scatterball Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Oh yeah, okay, you root for him, you root for them.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I'm reading for the individual, not the team itself. And
I don't have no ill will towards the Giants, but
I like with Jackson Dart and.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I hate eggs, but I love chicken. How you're gonna
love to buy product or something that? How you gonna
you don't? You don't like the animal, but you like
to buy product.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I mean, it happened sometimes, it happened sometime. Listen.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I ain't never said nothing bad about the Broncos. I
never did. That's a different helmet. Oh oh, what's that?
I don't even know where y'all go at this one?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
He a he nice too, though, he nice? Be nice?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You got socks going with the damn socks? Hey? Hey,
you luck at it? Come out here bad enough? Hey,
y'all look at it.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Other fact?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You know what matter of fact? I'm trying to think
when my team play again.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
We play, y'all play Sunday.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Okay, hey, after we beat the Jets, I'm coming in
my full uniform.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
You shuming? Really the Jets? What? Whoa?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Whoa? This is an NFL team.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I can't tell I can't tell you team.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I have nothing. I have nothing to do with how
they're doing.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Did you see them play today?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
That was bad?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
That was bad.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Oh, Joe, we had the conversation and we're gonna get
to it in a minute. About Justin Fields, I said,
oh yo, I don't know how much longer they could
let go.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I didn't know it would be this soon.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Though, if he gonna keep playing like you played. We
saw him last week against the BRONCOSO minus.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Ten yard on that's not fair.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Now, that's against the Broncos defense, one of the best
in the league.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Now he played Carolina, it wasn't much better.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Listen, listen, stay with me real quick. Now, this ain't
the same Carolina of old.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Now the same They have won no games, They've won
no games.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I'm with you, I'm with you right. There's not much
I can say.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
But the Broncos. I don't know how, and I ain't
asking no questions why. But we came back score thirty
three in the fourth. Have you all seen anything like.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That on Madden on the video game?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I mean, we scored thirty three in the four, the
most points they've ever scored in the fourth quarter when
you didn't score any points in the first place.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
That's crazy, ain't it? That's crazy. I'm not sure what did?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
What did?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
What did the Giants? Dude?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Defensively different the first three quarter that they didn't do
in the fourth.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Because the Broncos hurting themselves because they started they started
playing instead of behind the sticks, they started playing in
front of the sticks. It's hard. It's hard to keep
converting thirty ten, third, eleven. It's hard to get that.
It's hard to you know, all of a sudden, you
second in fifteen, you first to twenty. Man, you're not
gonna make it. You're not gonna make a living making
(29:41):
those getting that down in distance. But the Broncos kept
plugging away, uh uh, and the spirits of dt Man
would not let them lose today. So congratulations Broncos, Bronco country.
You know, we're proud, are you?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Are you happy?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
And we ain't cocky, but we ride on your team
like a car with Socker. We ain't bad and we
ain't cocky, but we ride on your team like a god.
I like that. I like that we did. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It's a nice little ryme right there. Okay, yeah, I
like that.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Like Yo, team Bronco, stand up, Broncos, stand up.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I mean, listen, I put my foot in my mouth.
I apologize to you. I apologize to all the Bronco
fans out there. I still love you. I never say
anything about it about you know. It will not nothing
malicious towards y'all. It was just a little fun bathroom
between me and that's all.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah. I was, hey, you know the Broncos. Jackson Dark
got dinged a little bit, and I was like, yeah,
put Russ in there. I had that bird man hand
rub Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Hold on, hold on Rusting rusted the child to God.
Now rust is the child to God. Now you're asked
for one of God's people to come in that field,
then the outcome might not have been.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
What your thought.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yes, hey, well Russ must be a step son and
Jackson Darty's real son, because Jackson Dark got the starting job.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Now, so what is he? I understand what you're saying, but.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
What game. We're going to next. Okay, the Browns beat
the Dolphins. Oh Man thirty one. Mike McDaniel bitch Tour
Lake for quinn ewards. He was twelve of twenty three
one hundred yards, zero touchdowns, three interceptions twenty four. He
had a twenty four passer rating. Tour has the most
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two interception games in the NFL since twenty twenty two. OTO.
This is this is why I tell you quarterbacks, keep
your mouth shut. Now we're gonna have a conversation about
you guy in Tennessee. Now you remember your guy in
tenni say week that's why you keep your mouth shut.
Now back to tour, O yo, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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I will let you the Miami guppies or.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Listen to it. When you when you.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
When you stand tall with your head high, and you
hold other people accountable and tell us about things that
are going on in your house, a house where we
had don't have the key to, so it's no way
for us to know what's going And then to see
on your chest as that captain, you have to always
be front and the center and being the one to
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be playing at your best. You got to be playing
at your very best at all times. So what you're
saying in front of the media and your plate, it
ain't matching up. It ain't matching up. You can't be
talking here but playing down here at the bottom. There
has to be some some some type of even keel
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where everything makes sense. Okay, you know what, he can
get in front of the media and say some of
the things that are going on behind closed door, because
once he touched that guy, damn Field, he's that boy.
He's doing his thing. But when you play like that
and on the opposite in trying to do that, it
ain't It wasn't pretty.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I was upset. I was upset watching I was upset
watching the game. We don't even have a chance.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
We didn't have a chance to compete, let alone you're
already going against one of the better defenses in the league.
So officially, you've got to do that much better. You
have to raise your level of play. Tyreek is gone.
He's not walking back through that dough. He's not walking
back through that dough. And it wasn't like Cleveland did
a whole lot. It was just that you were so pathetic.
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Miami offense was so anemic.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
They didn't really have to do anything because you gave
him short fields. You gave up a pick six. This
is what you do. Call Bill. David used to always
tell us my college coach, they son, you praise in public,
you chant dives behind tools.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Who whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa See
I forget hey, listen, I got I got it with
you today.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I'm prepared. Yeah yeah, he said, you chance, you chance,
you chant stands behind closed doors. You praised in public. Ojo.
We played the game. We played Alabama and m and uh.
Coach called uh. He called a quarterback draw on the
first the first two plays he called a handoff, quarterback
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checked out of it, and then on fourth down he
called the draw it again. We lined up. We lose
the game. We're all around the team. Coach says, I've
been coaching twenty years and I've never said this before.
You cast me the game just like that, he said,
he got that. He got that in front of the media.
You know, we just got to play better. Look the
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plays that we didn't make tonight at the quarterback position.
I trust him, I believe in him. That is not
what he said behind closed doors. That's not what he said,
but in public, he knew he had to put on
a brave face. He had to put on a brave front.
I'm not saying to what you said. You should have
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said behind closed doors to your teammates and keep the
media out of it. See, you can't spend it because
see when you say, when the media does this, you
absolve yourself of accountability. You see, instead of saying you, look, look,
I misspoke. Everything that I said. I could have said
to an individual or individuals that I felt that were
late or not being the best representative of the Miami Dolphins.
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That should have never heard that. The media ears should
have never heard what I had to say. But when
he spent it and say the media try to spend it,
now he's absolving himself of accountability. I thought you were
saying that you were sorry because you was taking the
onus of accountability. But that's not what he did. And
now think about it, Ocho, he said that after throwing
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three picks. He follows that up again with yeah, yeah,
so how do I look at you? How do I
look at you? If I'm a player? Ojo? You got
to see on your jersey you're supposed to be one
of our best players. And a large part of why
we're in effect about visibly is because of you.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I told you, Chat, I'm not sure Chat if any
of you have been in a structured environment and play
the sport and you look up to one individual, the
individual who wears.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
The sea on the chest, not only does he wear
the seal on the chest, but he's a leader.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
He not only is a leaders supposed to be, he's
your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
He's your quarterback.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
So you say some of the things that are going
in house about players that are in a building, how
do you think they look at your next? How do
you think they look at you? And you know, you
know how they gonna look at you. They won't say
it out loud publicly, but you know different, Yes, they
always look at your sideways. Now from now on, even
with a public apology and the top of off, the
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top it off, it makes it even worse when you
come back the following week and you play like that.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
And you stunk it up again. You pull your pants
down two weeks in a row in front of public
and took a dump on the field. Now, first of all,
oh Joe, I'm looking at you sideways, because even before
you open your mouth. I knew you weren't playing well,
and I kept that to myself. Now, I could have
put you on blasts or so when somebody say a
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tour with buns or cheeks, I could have liked it.
But I didn't do none of them. No, no, no,
But what did you do? You come, put us on
blasts and you still you got to the meeting on time.
You did everything right, and you looked like stirf Rid there.
So what was your excuse?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
He Sometimes you could do all the talking in the world.
You can do all the talk in the world. All
the talking in the world don't matter. But what does matter?
I know you want to do everything right before you go,
before before you touch this feel on Sundays. But all
that talking and all that means don't mean nothing. If
you go out there and you stick it up Sunday
at one o'clock, you still got to play.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You still got to exq as the exit nose.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
And the person that has the ball the most, the
person that is able to handle the ball the most,
is responsible most of the time, whether you win or
whether you lose.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yes toa now has two or more interception games, and
most he has the most to intercept two plus interception
games in the NFL since twenty twenty two. He's done
that twelve times. It's hard to overc It's hard to
overcome bad quarterback play because you know why, Ojo. You
know why Chat? Because he has the ball all the
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damn time unless you direct snap it to a running
back or a wide receiver, which is the wildcat. He
touches the ball. If he's playing bad, he gets hit,
the ball comes out, he throws it, it gets picked,
he runs. I always questioned Mojo, the man know he
has a history of concussions. He breaks away last year.
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What does he do? Ojo? He lowers his head on somebody.
I said, You've got to be kidding me here, must
think he must have thought he was.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
I'm confused with where do we go from here?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
As as mister Greer, Stephen Ross, Mike McDaniel, as much
as I as much as I love to you know,
then I have to be critical. I have to be critical.
It puts me aback, It puts my back against the wall.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
And Chat. Y'all know who I am.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I'm the one who really, rarely, very very rarely talks
about people. But this is he's now in a position
where he's doing the Dolphins more harm than good regards
to how much you pay. I know we think he's
making forty five maybe fifty me in a year, but
what we.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
He's not the answer.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
As much as I love and I love him to death,
you know you're putting in harm's way and he want
your quarterback to be the one person you don't have
to worry about. Okay, we don't have to worry about
the quarterback. We can build around here and address all
the other areas where we need to improve. But if
the area is the quarterback position, whether whether where where
the problem is, well, goddamn you really can't go.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
You can't go go goddamn with because.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
That's it starts with him, O Joe. You remember when
they fired Brian Flores and Tua got up there and said,
you know, it was tough coming to work every day
because he was so critical. It was always someone else. Hey,
I don't mind a coach. I listen. My thing is,
I know I wasn't perfect. My position. Coach job was
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to tell me where I'm weak and get me better
in those areas. That was his job. Cool job, says
I need a little bit more out of you, Mike
job A eighty four I needed today. Okay, fine, I
didn't take what they said. Oh they just no, no, no,
Because I know if my play I I'm watching the film,
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hell I see me. I'm like, damn, I show wish
I can go in there and raise that one. But damn,
they gonna see that on tape. And the thing is,
O Joe, when you loaf on a play or you
it's a block. Guess who else see it?
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Your teammates, everybody, Your teammates see that because they're watching
that same tape. So when they see two go through
his progressions and he throw that ball and dumb, or
they see him take a hit and he coughed the
ball up, they see that.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
They got a big issue on the hands. So Stephen
Ross is probably going to you know.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
You know it's funny too if you think about all
the issues that people have with Brian flore Is. It's
funny how everything he said now is coming to life.
Everything is actually true. And obviously I didn't know because
I'm not in the room. You hear the you hear
the issues. But now everything has come to the Forefront
not winning anymore. Now that they're not winning, everything else
is magnified times.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
You know how that is. Everything starts to get treep
out when you start to lose, people start to tell,
people start to pillow talk all of a sudden, reporters
because reporters do have relationship with certain players on certain team.
And you what, just like, how did they know? Uh,
that meeting took place in Philly?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah, it was fun between three people. How the hell
everybody else know exactly?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Me and you go and me and you go somewhere?
Hold on, oh Joe, how they know? How they know
we went to the mall D? We took people to
the mall D?
Speaker 4 (42:24):
How do they know that?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I probably posted something on Twitter?
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah. See that's why ain't going with you. Cause if
I take somebody, I can say, meet me at the
airport where we going. Don't worry about it. We'll buy that.
We'll buy whatever we need. Get that, cause I don't
want nobody to know, like, you know what.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I gotta use that.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
I gotta I gotta use that. Hey, Hey, that's a
that's a nice little game play right there. Un I
know we're talking about football, right, but telling her listen,
don't ask me no questions. Meet me at the airport
at this time. Don't even pack no super case. We're
gonna buy what you need when you get there. But
that's a nice play, Huh. I'm gonna try that. I'm
gonna try that. Hold on, we write that down.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Hey, Hey, back twenty six, back O'shane'll be well again.
You know I ain't well. I ain't well right now,
but in twenty six, it's back on. It's back on. Uh.
The thing is, oh, Joe Quinn yours? I don't know
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if he's the answers. You've got to try something or
you're gonna lose the locker room. I don't know how
you keep tour in the locker room after this season.
I don't know how. I don't know how. I don't
know what you owe him. But I've seen teams eat
a lot of money to move on for a quarterback
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when they don't feel it's beneficial.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
But you got careful too. You gotta be careful with
moving on. Zach Wilson, cut and errors. Viewers.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Are they the answer? Because you know?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Because you know, I think I think they're gonna probably
go into the draft. Ojo at this point. But I
don't know. I don't know who the top quarterback is.
We talked about me. We watched college football every week, Ojo.
I ain't in love with nothing.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
My point exactly, And I don't think.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
I don't think what we're going to get in this
year draft is a franchise altering quarterback.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I don't think we have that. I don't think we
have a Jackson Dart in this draft.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
I don't think we have uh Jadon Daniels or what
we saw was c de Stroud when they came to
Houston and they changed the dynamic and the strectory of
those teams exponentially in just a few months.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I don't think. I don't think. I don't think that's
out there. I don't. I don't think that's out there.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Maybe someone can come in and develop and become that,
but I just I just don't see it right now.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I don't either. But they're gonna have to do something,
Oh Joe, I don't. I think they're starting to see
that he's not the answer. And if you the one
thing you can't be, you can't be, you cannot be
the answer and the problem. Yeh, oh Joe, you can't be.
You can't be both not the answer and the problem.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
So also what you have to say is when you
take away the weapons that he once had when they
were winning, when they when they when they were you know,
when he's having the great seasons you know, in the
air and then throwing the ball in the age hand
and most of we're having having playing really well on
the ground. Once you take all those weapons around you,
that means a quarterback play has to be that much better.
You have to raise your level of play when the
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weapons around you aren't what they used to be.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
But he doesn't. He doesn't. He's not that type of quarterback.
If you go back and look at him even in college,
you look at what he was throwing. My god, okay,
look at in the NFL, look at what he's had.
So he's not a guy. He can't take average players
and elevate them. It take extraordinary players to elevate them.
So when you got Jerry Judy, when you got Henry Ruggs,
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when you got a Devonte Smith, when you got Jalen Wattle,
think about that's for a first round picks. And I
ain't talking about no low first round. That's the boys
look at the running backs that you have, look at
the offensive line that you got. Now he goes to
Miami and he has those weapons around him. So he's
not a quarterback that can elevate you. And you see
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what he just has marginal tallent. You see how he works.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
And that's unfortunate too. That's unfortunate for Dolphins fans. Listen,
we've suffered, yes, I said, we've suffered since Dame Marino's
been gone.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Since Dame Marino has been gone, we've suffered.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
At that position and not find a quarterback that we
don't have to worry about that we can lock in
and build around and say, you know what, you are
a centerpiece for the next decade or so, and we
don't have to worry about nothing because we know, come
hell out, hot water, you're gonna make all the right
decisions with the ball. All we have to do is
just bill around you and you're gonna take it from there.
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If we happen to lose some key players of offense,
we know you can keep the float, keep the boat afloat,
and we can still win games based on your plate
and decision making with the ball. But right now, it's
bad man it's bad. This is coming from a Miami native,
a Dolphins fan.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
It's bad.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
The Dallas Cowboys double up the Washington Commanders forty four
to twenty two. The Cowboys offense is rolling dak twenty
one thirty two sixty four, three touchdowns. Javonte Williams nineteen carries,
abuck sixteen one touchdown, Cede Lamb first game back, five
catches above ten touchdown, long seventy four, George Pickens four
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eighty two long forty four, Jake Ferguson seven catches twenty
nine yards, two tubs. The Cowboys offense looks razy good.
Their defense looked a lot better because they played from
behind and now to get to pen their back. Uh,
they were they they got after. They have four sacks today.
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Kenneth Murray Junior had one, James had one. Uh, Jadavian
Clowney had one. I can't even have only missed his brother,
Uh oh Joe watching the Cowboys. As a matter of fact,
they got guess where they're They're on the road next weekend. There.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Hey, I ain't gonna I'm not even gonna talk no trash.
I'm not gonna talk no trash. But I know one
thing past certain the second he's gonna have his hands
full depending on who he follows, whether it be George
Pickens of where to be cde Lamb. But I know
he's going to He's going to do a hell of
a job. See, I might even talk no trash.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
I ain't he Hey, Dak stay away from two. That's
all I'm saying. Hey, uh, C spends a lot of times. Yeah,
he don't really go so he'll probably deal with probably,
But there Look when the cowboy and you can run
the ball out of the cowboys, it's hard. Javonte Williams
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getting getting four five six carry So you got I
mean you got the single Luve choice, Riley Mass you
gonna have to But bro, Bro, I mean, at some
point in time, o't, Joe, I'm not gonna lie. At
some point in time you got to say, you know what,
every time somebody need.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
A big throat.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I'm talking about at some point in time you said enough. Yeah,
I'm like Reggie and Professor Clump. With Reggie, they came
with a what you call him? What's his name? What
was what was Professor Clumb with Clump? Uh yeah, professor
Club When he was on Reggie at the at the
(49:46):
at the comedy club, and Regis said.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Enough all them jokes.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Yeah, yes, Riley, at some point in time, you've got
to say enough. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
I mean, you got to make them pay. They want
to come at me. They got to make him play.
I remember, I remember Darn Bland since we talked about
the Cowboys, and they chose not to throw Trayvon diggs
Way and they kept throwing over there the Bland and
he kept picking everything off like a booker. Yeah you
got it, got another today. I mean, let's you. Hey,
(50:20):
the Cowboys look good. They look they look so good.
They have they have looked good offensively. Their problem has
been defensively when when they when other teams, when they
when they're playing ahead, that's when the defense look good.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yes, because you you neutralize the threat of the run.
Because if their problem is that when the defense is
bad and the offense dak you know, they he turns
it over, he gets a pick. Uh, they fumbled them all.
If you tell me that they're going to be able
to play with the lead or they're gonna be able
(50:57):
to be nipping, you're gonna have your hands full because
they can run it with Javonte and they got two
guys that can go get it. And then that tied
end that that.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Nice Jake Fergusson.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
He ain't got no great speed, but he got great.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Hey y Ferguson this night.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
And the funny thing about it, Tude, when you see
the Cowboys playing chat chat, y'all, stay with me. When
you see the Cowboys playing the way they playing today,
they can compete with anybody.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
They can compete with anybody.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
I'm talking about the package, I'm talking about the Chiefs,
I'm talking about the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Are all those.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Teams that are high scoring, that can that can score
twenty five thirty points a game, The goddamn Cowboys can
do that every single week, every week. Hey, one thing
I to add I want you to tell Cowboys fans
some I tweeted some earlier today is I was.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Talking about George Pigts, right.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
Obviously George Piggins there, he's on a one year deal
and obviously they have to do something with that at
the end of the season. That yeah, I mean, it's
price points gonna be too high. They're gonna have to restructure.
See the Damazon already got his money, and I'm telling
people it would be good for George Piggins to be
able to go somewhere and get his money, which is
which is well deserving based on the seasons he's having,
being that all the other receivers have gotten the money,
(52:06):
and then everybody's about, Oh O Joe, shut up. Pickings
ain't going now where he's gonna stay here? Well, who
gonna take a discount? Because what is the thing, Ojo?
Speaker 1 (52:16):
They got? Look, they're gonna have money under the camp
for the simple fact they're gonna redo Dak's deal. Let's
just say dak cap number is gonna be third seve
He ain't playing on that number next year, so they'll
probably do get give Dak another you know, say he
has two years left on that deal. We'll add we'll
add four years to it. We'll give him you know what,
(52:37):
We'll give him another sixty million. We'll give him one
hundred and fifty million, two hundred million guaranteed, whatever the
cake may be. To get that cap number down. We
get his cap number thirty. Now we can focus our
attention on George hold on.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
So if you're gonna focus your attention on George Pickings, right,
and the cap is round thirty, what you're.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Giving what you're giving Pickings a year.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
I'll give him somewhere between thirty two and thirty five.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Okay, okay, we're talking business like.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
I like for your mind at I like I like
your for me, for me honestly, based on Wigan did,
based on what he can do and what he showed
you he can do.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
He showed it with the quarterback carousel with the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
He show me to do in a consistent, competent offense
with a good quarterback and deck.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Hey give me thirty five guitar.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Here's the thing. He knows. He knows he has a quarterback.
He can get it the ball. He knows that they
double if they double CD, he's getting one on one coverage.
That's gonna look for it, Dak. Don't give him every opportunity.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
To if he make it every last one and.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
He's making every last play, now that the only problem.
And people and I and the people say with Shannon,
the Bengals were able to keep T. The difference between
George Pickins and T Higgins the Bengals drafted T. T
had been there for three four years. George Pickins is
right now as a rental. Now you can't buy rental cards.
(54:01):
You can go to Hurts and yeah they had them.
They had the mustangs that you can buy. You can
buy a rental card from Avis. You could buy it.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Hey, but this is the problem. I don't like.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
You understand Jerry Jones. You understand how Jerry Jones conduct business.
He understand how he's made all his stars wait and
he drug out the process when it comes time to
pay players.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
That's all he has. David Muga letter, You know, David,
David moved again. But hey, he said one one negotiation
doesn't doesn't represent another negotiation. George Finking is gonna want
somewhere between thirty two and thirty five million. He don't
(54:46):
give a damn who gives it to him? Cowboys, he said,
he don't give it damn what who gives it to it?
Speaker 2 (54:52):
I told y'all, y'all don't listen to me.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Hey, Yojo anything Joe you might like off in the
whole of us. But if they don't got it, I
go to Trader Jones. If they don't got it, I
go to Smiths. If they don't got it, I.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Go on neither.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
People.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
The people try to tell me in the earlier. You
know early on Twitter, he ain't going nowhere, he gonna
take less money. Huh No, do y'all do y'all understand first?
Speaker 1 (55:18):
You know they look. The thing is is that, like
I said, when you look at Dak's number, Dak's number
is seventy four million. He's not playing on a seventy
four million dollar cap. They're gonna get that down in
probably next year's cap probably be somewhere around twenty million,
thirty million. But give him a big signing bonus, probably
one hundred million dollars to sign. Yeah. Yeah, but George
(55:38):
Pickens's gonna want.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
To eat, got to it's first, You're gonna want to eat.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
Now. You got money because you didn't sign Michael. You
got you got money, and you've taken care of You're
taking care of your guards, You've taken care of Duran Bland,
You've taken care of people that you need to take
care of. And pick is a guy. Look, Jerry loves offense.
He loved the way is playing. And when you see offense,
(56:03):
be like, okay, this is when you had Michael Levin
and you had Alan Harper, you double you double Michael
Alvin Harper is gonna make you pay him the backside.
You got a j novcheck and and Jake Perguson shorthanded, reliable,
not the best blocker. But you know what we didn't.
(56:24):
We ain't brought you here for the block. We brought
you here to catch. Catch, get us, keep us the
first down, keep us, keep the chains moving, and touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (56:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
He had a touchdown catching his four straight games. Javonte
had his second one hundred yard rushing game, six rushing
touchdowns on the season. He's healthy. I loved him coming
out of North Carolina and he had he had he
had a good you know, early years with the Broncos,
but he hurt his knee and then he came back
and he wasn't the same. You know, unless you Adrian Peterson.
(56:55):
You know, it normally takes you a year and a
half for that need to get right. Now they got
the guy that's a year and a half removed from
that surgery. And now this is what when the Broncos
selected him in the second round, this is what they
thoughtwoy but the Cowboys look good. Now we got to
talk about Jane Daney's twelve to twenty two touchdown. He
(57:17):
ended up tweaked his hamstring. Uh, we'll see you gonna
get an m I tomorrow. We'll see the extent of that.
I don't know how far they can go without him,
with without without listen Mariota.
Speaker 3 (57:32):
It showed he can play some good ball, he can
string off, he can string off some wins. But he's
too up and down. H you don't know which, You
don't know which agent. Yeah, you don't know which you're
gonna get. But obviously he coming in and starting in
a game where you haven't had many reps with the
Ones and being thrown in the fire.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
You have to catch You have to catch yourself in
the rhythm. You got to get yourself going.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
Obviously you're not You're not acclimated to to to the
speed of the game. You're not acclimated to the tempo
in general. You know the play, you know it's just
supposed to do. But your time is gonna be off
a little bit. Your time is gonna be, you know,
be a little rusty. I think if, obviously, if if
he's not able to go this week, if Jade Dames
is not able to go this week, and he gets
another week under his belt with the Ones and getting
(58:16):
this getting us getting that rhythm going with the ones
and Temple going with the ones.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
I think he'll be fine and played much much better
next week. But it's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
It's hard to come off the bench and make sure
the team doesn't miss a beat and you coming and
just do your thing, especially when you're playing from behind.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
Yeah. Yeah, they just pinted their ears back dak last
four games, won't yo. He had three hundred and nineteen
pass yards, three touchdowns, two hundred and thirty seven yards,
four touchdowns, two hundred and sixty one yards, three touchdowns
two hundred and sixty four yards today, three touchdowns, zero interceptions.
He's got to be who is the leading the league
(58:57):
in touchdown passing Stafford? Because Stafford had less than two
under half five teams today. I think Jackson, I thought Jackson.
I think Jacksonville, you know, ifty their tank against Kansas
City because they little like st the last two games.
But we're gonna talk about it because because y'all, y'all
talk about you and I, we don't talk about the
Jags enough. So we're gonna jump on y'all last today
we're gonna talk about you. We got something for you
(59:18):
be careful what you wish for. I think Mahomes has
fourteen with two picks, dak has sixteen? How many Stafford has? Yeah,
(59:45):
we're all right. They hadn't really said the statu. Matt
Ohen tweeted, I don't care what it costs. Dallas needs
to find a way to sign George Pickens to a
long term deal. This isn't Batman, Robin. The Cowboys have
Batman and Superman at Widers.
Speaker 2 (59:59):
Like that. I like it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Jane Daniel, as I mentioned, exit the game with a
hamstring injury. His mom, Regina, Jane's mom, tweeted after I
wish you would stop manifesting r G three on my son.
Words are powerful, and that's still and that's all that's
talked about. I agree.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
One thing, one thing about the power of the tongue.
It never feels power. I'm moreis cautious than everything I say.
Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
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those guys out. O Joe. As we mentioned the night,
Mac Jones fielding again for brock Purty did a great job.
He was seventeen or twenty six one fifty two won
an exception, But it was a combination of ce mac
let him in rushing twenty four carries a buck, twenty
nine two tubs. He also led him in receiving seven
catches seventy two yards, along as seventeen on eight targets.
(04:40):
He was mister everything, and they relied heavily on him,
and that's what you're supposed to do. And the defense
got out the pennis. They didn't really sack him a
whole bunch, but they pressured him, they hurried him up,
They made it rushing throws and they win a ball game.
They're now moved to five and two as the Falcons
fall to three and three. Oh, Joe W. Washington game,
What did you like about what you saw from the
(05:01):
forty nine ers? Who you know, we've they've lost the
best defensive player of Bosa, the best defensive player and
Fred Warner. Do you know they they they've been banged up,
their quarterback, starting quarterback, fifty million dollars quarterback. He's out,
are you he's out? Kittle just came back today. But
somehow Kyle Shanahan is pieced it together, kept this team
(05:23):
together and they're five and two.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Hey, listen, mac Jones has been done a hell of
a job. He's done a hell of a job and
filling in for Rock Purtty after Rock Purtty went down.
It seems like they haven't missed the beat offensively despite
the injuries on obviously on both sides of the ball.
Kitt'll come back today. I don't really like the way
they used Kittle tonight. They used him as if he's
a blocking tight end, didn't really give him anything on
the officer side, off side of the.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Ball, you know, through the air.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
But Christop McCaffrey leading the way not only on the
ground but also also in the air. They had Juwan Jennings,
who I expected to be more of a contributor after
just you know, just paying him, allowing him to to
to get a feel for the offense and get some passes.
Kendrick Bourne, who just went crazy last week, if I'm
not mistaken, just went crazy week and he wasn't as
(06:08):
effective as he was from off from the standpoint for them,
but they still won the game. On the other side.
On the other side, of the ball the Falcons. It
was obviously a snooze fest. If you watch the game,
I'm not sure. If you watch you might have watched
it with the sound off. If you watch it with
the sound off, you might have been sleeping. It wasn't
exciting at all. It wasn't excited at all. They kept
trying to do the same plays over and over, outside zone,
(06:28):
outside zone, outside zone, but they couldn't really get Bjon free.
He couldn't bust one, bust one open tonight, Kyle Pitts.
They had some some plays, but they got on the ball.
Drake London, that's what.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, I thought he was involved.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
He had ten targets, but it just it just it
just wasn't enough.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Look the teams, Look, they're gonna have to beat teams
throwing the football. Teams are not gonna let be John Robinson.
We know what b Jon Robinson can do. We're not
gonna let him have the type of game that he
that Christian. You remember the other night, Joe again, we
saw ran the ball and.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
He was sweeping.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
We're not letting him do that. If Drake, if Michael
Pennix Jr. Can drop back and throw the ball and
beat him, so be it. But we're not gonna let
We're not gonna let that running back beat us because
he's special. We understand just how special he is. You're
gonna have to beat up your quarterbacks. Is gonna have
to beat us from the pocket. And you look, actually,
I want to put him on the move because he's
(07:22):
not nearly as accurate on the move as he is
from the pocket. And you notice they brought some pressure
to get him on the move, and he was inaccurate
one thirty eight two forty one touchdowns, was sacked twice,
hurried a bunch, but they steined in him running the football.
Oh your twenty carries sixty two yards. That's not good enough.
That's that is not nearly good enough for this team
(07:46):
in order to win, because they have to have some time.
And that's when they're at their best. When they can
get Alzire running the football, when they can get b
John Robinson running the football, that's when they're absolutely that's
when they're the Falcons are at their best. And tonight
they couldn't get the running game, and so they became
so reliant on the passing game. And I don't think
Pennix Jr. Is there yet. Drake London had ten targets
(08:07):
on the four catchers. As you mentioned, Kyle Pince had
ten targets. He did have seven catches for sixty two yards,
which was probably one of its better games thus far
this year. But in order for the Falcons to be
what they think they can be, especially with this offense
in firepower, it starts with that running back. It starts
with him. He he is the look. He might not
(08:29):
be he's the he's the boom story now, he might
not be the sugar. He might not necessarily be the
t But if you just dumped sugar and TN then
and puts water in there and ay, all the things
is gonna go. He stirs it. He makes every he
makes everything swirld. He makes everything back.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
If he makes everything better, and he makes everything go
offensively when you have a night like tonight, when the
forty nine er says, obviously the second level did one
hell of a job. With Fred Wanner being gone, Nick
posing me going the second level did the hell of
a job and stopping b John Robinson to the next
thing you have to go to you have to go
through your arm, you have to go through your pass
the game. Drake London, Mooney, Kyle Pitts, all those guys
(09:08):
have to be able to to to contribute to the offensive,
offensive game plan and allowing Michael Pennix Junior to flourish
through the air.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I'm not sure. I'm not sure what happened. It hurt
whit whit? Why you took your hammet off?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Unk? Hey?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Any any anyway? Chat?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I think for Michael penningx Jr. If the run game
is not working with b John Robinson, he has to
be able to get back there and throw the ball.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
He has to. And then they throwing smoke screens.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
They throwing smoke screens the Kyle Pitts they throw You
heard me, they throw smoke screens to Kyle Pits That
that that that does nothing for him. That's nothing, that
does nothing for him. That he's not that kind of player,
and he's not that tweet and face.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Somebody have to make moves. That's not what he does.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You put him in positions like you did out there,
you know, and you put him out receiver and you
have complete mismatches. Use them that way, but I mean, listen,
I think they misuse them a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Outside of that, I.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Mean, look, oo, I would have liked to play in
today's game and catch because I'm gonna have a bunch
of catches because they throw so many screens and shovel
passes to the to the tight ends and all that stuff.
But putting me down the field, I'm trying to go
down the field. I ain't got to worry about nobody.
I ain't got to worry about the receiver kicking out somebody,
or kicking out somebody, or the running back blocking somebody.
(10:31):
Send me down the damn field. I know what coverage
you this, and so I know why vulnerable. So but look,
this is a big win for the forty nine ers,
and this is what you like when you sign a
backup quarterback. You want your backup quarterback to be able
to hold a court down until your starter comes back.
I still believe, I firmly believe they should have stayed
(10:52):
exactly where they were. Tuck Matt Jones, you don't have
to give up anything. Now that those picks, those first
round picks and those second round picks that you had
to give up, think about what you're could have done.
Because they do a good job of drafting. They do
a great job of identifying a player and developing set player.
They do a great job of that. But Brock Purty
(11:15):
saved them. But going to get Mac Jones has really
helped them out this year because I'm not so sure
Mac Jones has been a starter. He's been a pro
Bowl player. He understands he's perfect for this system. He
doesn't have a big arm, he has great anticipatory skills.
He can throw on time. He understands. He's a smart guy.
He's not mobile, he's not, but he can do what
(11:36):
Kyle Shanahan needs him to do in order to win
ball games. And that's all I need you to do. Son,
keep us afloat. I just a you got this life
for ja. Them lights do they have on? They stay
for twenty four hours. I need you to keep us.
I need you to keep us a float for twenty
four days. It's been longer because this is the fifth
game starting, O Joe. But I thought he played really well.
(11:59):
He got a uh you know, a couple of drops
in there, had a deep ball and number five, I
don't know what his name is.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Like Brodn Return.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
That's that's what you gotta have it, O Joe, because look,
we're playing with our backup quarterback. We got to help
him out, you know, Joe, Now you got to step
in and place. We gotta have everything we got. We
gotta make those tough coaches, excuse me, those tough catchers,
and that's what that's what they needed to do. So
uh oh oh, we gotta get this game. Everybody know
(12:35):
what happened. Pretty excited. What game you talking about? Don't
worry about it. You gonna find out in just a second.
Do what? Oh Joe, why you tweeting me? Man? You
ain't never tweeted me before, but all of a sudden today,
all of a sudden to day, you want to tweet
I ain't heard you.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
You most of the time. Most of the time, you
tweeting during the game.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You tweeting during the game, you though about, you know,
certain players, of how team is doing.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And it just it just dawned at me.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Somebody tweeted me and said, well, go check on own,
let's do a wellness check to make sure he's okay,
because he hadn't tweeted about the Broncos all day. That's
when I tweeted you. That's when I tweeted your I
just want to make sure you was good. I was okay,
it was.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
The Bronco scored thirty three in the fourth quarter. How
about this for I Ronnick, excuse me, how about this.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Before you say that you're not a conspiracy theorist? Are
you you long? But go ahead? All right?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
The Marrius Thomas wenting to the Ring of Honor. Today
the Marrius Thomas passed. He was thirty three years of age.
How many points did they score in the fourth quarter?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
On thirty three?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That ain't hey listen, that ain't number God for those
that for those that are conspiracy theorists, I.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Buy that one. I buy that one. I buy that one.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
The Broncos scored thirty three points in the fourth quarter
to come back and beat the Giants thirty three thirty
two three lead changes in the final two minutes. Prior
to the day, teams had lost sixteen hundred and two
games consecutive games when trailing by at least eighteen points
with six minutes to play. Le broncos thirty three fourth
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quarter points were the most points in the fourth quarter
by any team that had been shut out the first
three quarters in NFL history. We did that. We did that.
I did o jo. Before we getting to discuss this game.
Cameras call a very ticked off Brian Burns leaving the field.
Let's try to listen to what he had to say.
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I guess we're not gonna be able to try to
hear what.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
He had I know, I not know.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I'm not deaf, but I showed him here nothing. I
can see him. I can see his mouth moving though.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, we didn't get the audio. So both Knicks was
twenty seven to fifty two, seventy nine two touchdown. The
Broncos ran the ball twenty four times for a buck
forty two suck. Courtland Sutton, Big Bill Games six catchers
eighty seven yards, Marvin Mims Junior six catches eighty five yards,
Evan Ingram, everybody was big that final drive. It was huge,
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and the Broncos pull out Jackson Dark. I was like, bro,
are you saying? Look? Man? I just knew it was
over O Joe because when he threw the past Doston middle,
the Broncos guys break it up and had come eighty
four from the Giants, get the ball and turn up
the sideline and go forty one yard. I say, you
know what, it ain't for us today. It ain't for us.
It ain't for us. But you know what, that's one
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thing about my High. They got ghost in my High.
They got ghost. And if you're a Bronco fan, if
you've witnessed games, you've seen the Broncos dig themselves out,
whether it was John Elway, whether it was Craig Martin,
whether it was Peyton Manning, Hey, Tim Tebow. You've seen
some unbelievable comebacks in that state. And today was unlike
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any other that I that I've ever that I've ever
seen for the from the Broncos, Oh Joe, what what
did you? Let's take it from Let's take it from
the Let's take it from the Giants perspective, because Jackson
Dark was fifteen to thirty three two eighty three, three
touchdowns one exception. He was sacked four times. They ran
the ball thirty two times for a buck nineteen one.
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Dale Robinson was six for ninety five, Bellinger was three
for eighty eight. Uh scatter Boat ended up catching eleven
thirteen yard touchdown on third and eleven from the Giants.
Where where did the Giants go wrong? What did they do?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I think you know what? Every play counts.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
We always talk about that and how turnover sometime it's
costly and then make you pay double, you know, for
a team to.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Be able to come back. Thirty three in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
H field goals that a miss field goal to miss
that it miss obviously early the cast you on, they
cast you, They cast you in the back end. Outside
of that, Jackson dart, which you want to do. You
want to protect the ball. You want to protect the ball.
You can't throw interceptions. But what you what you see
from him, monk and just giving you a chance, when
giving you a chance offensively, having a nice healthy balance
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of the run and the past, and then him being
able to being able to be a dual threat and
make plays with his legs, extending plays, looking downfield and
and doing some of the things he did towards the
end of the game. Outside of that, you know, defensively, no,
thirty three, thirty three on thirty three point one in
one quarter, in one quarter, not not over a span
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of an entire game. But that comes down to listen, Defensively,
we got, we got, we got, we gotta be a
little tight knit, we gotta, we gotta a little tight knit.
And obviously in those situations as well, offensively, you want
to hold the ball.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You want to choose that clock out.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
You want to choose some of that clockout, so they're
not able to come back, you know, from a deficit
like that and just one guy, damn quarter. So I
think this is the learning experience for Jackson dark Within
with it being just a four start.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But I think they're gonna be all right.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
For one thing, even though he lost the game, you
have to feel good at the Giants fan.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
You have to you got something special. Sca scaterboy. Gonna
have to understand, o Joe, you can't run over everybody
or you or you'll have no You'll have no memory
by the time you twenty five. I understand that. You look,
you everybody to play in the NFL. Everybody have a
certain level of toughness. Now, I ain't telling you what
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somebody told me. I'm telling what I know. Would you say,
you don't have to prove how tough you are, It's okay?
What you Hey, he ain't gonna be able to remember
his name at twenty five. He kep gonna try to
head hunt people. Uh but I look, they they found
their quarterback. They they've identified their quarterback, and he was phronomenally.
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He was really he was really good today. He made
the one mistake and the one thing that you can't
have to happen, even Ojo. Even if you punt the
ball away, you make them drive. You let them get
the ball back and they only have to go twenty
yards for a touchdown. So now you minimize the amount
of time that they that you've used off the clock
if you punt that ball away, Ojo, and they gotta
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drive eighty yards, So be it unless you give up,
you know, you say, nothing cheap, nothing deep. As long
as you don't give up a bomb, it's gonna take
them a minute, minute, thirty, maybe even two minutes. That's
what you need. Time is your friend, not a score.
Time Ti Ti. And so that's the thing I thought.
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The Broncos look that was like Sean Pay, what are
you doing? What it is? You're at home? You're at home.
Guys did drop some passes, but I look, JK. Dobbins
needs more than fourteen carries. He had fourteen carries from
eighty one yards. But when you're behind by the margin
that they're behind, Ojo, it kind of takes you out
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of running the football. So now I gotta throw. It's
hard to run yourself back into a game. You have
to throw yourself back into the game. But I thought
Sean Payton did a well enough job of still incorporating
a few runs here or there. The Broncos almost blew
this bro Why y'all fighting all out? Let them score?
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They missed the pay Hey, let them score. Let them score.
Now you get the ball back with a chance that
because I was I was a fourgone conclusion that I
thought the guy was gonna make the bad So now
we get you know you're getting field goal range. Now
you make a field goal. Now you're going overtime. I
was so glad that they reviewed it and said it
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was a touchdown and then gave the Broncos the extra
six seconds because it originally it was scored it with
thirty one seconds. They put an extra six seconds. Remember
when they killed the clock, it was two seconds every
second when you're behind. But I thought they did a
great job. Look at I mean, he looked like he
was throwing the ball. It was like a I don't
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know what they did. Because Carbon Mims Jr. Is supposed
to run a scene to clear it. Cortland Sutton is
coming in on the docker for some reasons pulled off
and it looked like something was like and he pulls
his hand back, his memes, Okay, they get up there.
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They kill it now from the inside. They love to
run this play. They put a Courtland Sudden in the
slot and they run him on the fade up the rail.
He's a great jump ball guy. He's a bigness. They
switched yes, yes, because guess what. The guy in the slot,
he don't want you to run a shallowcross, so he's
gonna be slighting inside. So it's gonna be an easy release.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
And every time it's.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Gonna be an easy release. So you got the advantage
on him. He ups over the top of him, catches it,
gets oute of bounds, come down, spike it and then
will look.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You know what obviously giants fans uh John and on
it John Marrow, right, yeah, John mar Brian Daveaul.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
John Marris, a Tish, the Tissh and lamorro fl brother t.
But they sold a ten percent minority stake. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I'm not sure they sold it to too.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
But if you haven't trials for Kickers tomorrow, if you
haven't trials for kickers tomorrow, you know who to call
because I'm I'm I'm probably the best kicker in the
NFL history because I've never missed.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And if you want somebody that's consistent that you.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Can count on, where you can win games on their
leg and they have one job to do.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
You have one job. You do one thing for a
two hour practice. You kick the ball. That's it.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
So I'm not too far away. I could be in
New York tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
They are those two miss pats definitely helped the Broncos.
And you look, I don't care what anybody says. It's
the flating. Everybody's high you high fiving on the sideline.
Oh yo, You're like, yeah, we just got a touchdown,
and then all of a sudden, the field then all
the kicker, the kicker. I don't care what anybody says.
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It's like, oh, yeah, we're good, we are we No, bro, No,
we worked too hard to get that six points for
you to come out there and Jack, No, that's what point.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
And it's so funny. I was so I was so confident.
I'm watching the game, I'm like, well, god, damn, the
Broncos getting whooped and then somebody treat me, well, shoot,
I ain't heard from unk. Hey, Oto, you might want
to go check on unk Man getting there.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
You know what, whoop?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I see Jackson Dark go down there like a goddamn magician,
and he leaped, he scored.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You know, great effort. I'm like, oh, let me tweet Unk.
It makes sure I'm good over there.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
If I was looking.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Back up, I go to the bathroom and come back.
I'm like, what the hell happened?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I did the same thing. I let the dogs out
o yo, after the Broncos stored, and then I come
back in like a minute later. The Broncos got the ball.
I said, how the hell we get the ball? I
don't know how we got it, but I was glad
we had it. And the next thing, you know, I mean,
think about it. I think I read it stat that
says bo Nix is the first player in NFL history
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to score to throw two passing touchdowns and have two
rushing touchdowns in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And that's that's that means defensively, mean.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
This hurt, o Joe. If you're a Giants fan or
you a Giants player, this hurts. This hurts or I'm
telling you I've had. I don't know if I've ever
had a defeat like this where we had such a
big lead, I mean, t loule team to score thirty
three points in the fourth quarter. I don't know if
I've ever had a loss like this, but this one hurts.
I mean I've lost the game, you know, walk off game.
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We lost, lost a couple of times to walk offs.
To lost to Kansas City one year. I think it's
ninety seven, got hit. I think a fifty four to
fifty seven yard field goal to walk it off. But man,
because you played well, you didn't turn the ball. Think
about it. You had one turnover, you had one pick interception.
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But see when did he throw the pick in the quarter.
Remember all tournatives are pretty equal. You turned this over
and you have this pick in the first quarter. Now,
now team just scored. Now you give them an opportunity
to score again. They're right back in the ball game.
Now they're that stadium is rock and I can just imagine.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I know some people had left because I see it,
but hey, I saw a lot of and I saw
the cameras moving. I said, yeah, Bronco, Bronco, they walk
rock in that stadium right now, and man, boy, I
can say football, and you can.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
You can say, hey, listen, you can say it. You
you listen, you worthy, you worthy of it.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
You can say football, you can say pig skin, you
can say Broncos country, let's ride.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
You could. I mean, whatever you want to say, you
can say it. I'm with you. I can't, I can't.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I got to put a foot of the mouth. I
gotta put a foot of the mouth. Hey, you can
put your role one too, you can put your rollbones.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Now. We don't want we don't want football. We want
to see what's in the locker. Oh, Joe, just I beg.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You take take your time. Listen.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I'm with you when you're right. I spoke too soon.
I put my foot of my mouth. Listen, I'm not
I'm not too wrong. Too many times that I was
wrong to night though. So one thing about listen, I
wasn't on the field. I wasn't playing defense. I don't
know where you're playing, even for the Giants.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So when you become a Giants fan, when you become
a Giants man, yeah, I mean stop telling you who
be Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I'm not listening. I'm not a Giants fan. I'm a
fan of Jackson Dark and it's excitement that he brings
to them.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Oh, he played for the Giants, so that means you
root for him, you root for him, you root for them.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I like scatterball. I like scatterball Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Oh yeah, okay, you root for him, you root for them.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I'm reading for the individual, not the team itself. And
I don't have no ill will towards the Giants, but
I like with Jackson Dart and.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I hate eggs, but I love chicken. How you're gonna
love to buy product or something that? How you gonna
you don't? You don't like the animal, but you like
to buy product.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I mean, it happened sometimes, it happened sometime. Listen.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I ain't never said nothing bad about the Broncos. I
never did. That's a different helmet. Oh oh, what's that?
I don't even know where y'all go at this one?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
He a he nice too, though, he nice? Be nice?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You got socks going with the damn socks? Hey? Hey,
you luck at it? Come out here bad enough? Hey,
y'all look at it.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Other fact?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You know what matter of fact? I'm trying to think
when my team play again.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
We play, y'all play Sunday.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Okay, hey, after we beat the Jets, I'm coming in
my full uniform.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
You shuming? Really the Jets? What? Whoa?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Whoa? This is an NFL team.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I can't tell I can't tell you team.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I have nothing. I have nothing to do with how
they're doing.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Did you see them play today?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
That was bad?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
That was bad.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Oh, Joe, we had the conversation and we're gonna get
to it in a minute. About Justin Fields, I said,
oh yo, I don't know how much longer they could
let go.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I didn't know it would be this soon.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Though, if he gonna keep playing like you played. We
saw him last week against the BRONCOSO minus.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Ten yard on that's not fair.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Now, that's against the Broncos defense, one of the best
in the league.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Now he played Carolina, it wasn't much better.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Listen, listen, stay with me real quick. Now, this ain't
the same Carolina of old.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Now the same They have won no games, They've won
no games.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I'm with you, I'm with you right. There's not much
I can say.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
But the Broncos. I don't know how, and I ain't
asking no questions why. But we came back score thirty
three in the fourth. Have you all seen anything like.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That on Madden on the video game?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I mean, we scored thirty three in the four, the
most points they've ever scored in the fourth quarter when
you didn't score any points in the first place.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
That's crazy, ain't it? That's crazy. I'm not sure what did?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
What did?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
What did the Giants? Dude?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Defensively different the first three quarter that they didn't do
in the fourth.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Because the Broncos hurting themselves because they started they started
playing instead of behind the sticks, they started playing in
front of the sticks. It's hard. It's hard to keep
converting thirty ten, third, eleven. It's hard to get that.
It's hard to you know, all of a sudden, you
second in fifteen, you first to twenty. Man, you're not
gonna make it. You're not gonna make a living making
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those getting that down in distance. But the Broncos kept
plugging away, uh uh, and the spirits of dt Man
would not let them lose today. So congratulations Broncos, Bronco country.
You know, we're proud, are you?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Are you happy?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
And we ain't cocky, but we ride on your team
like a car with Socker. We ain't bad and we
ain't cocky, but we ride on your team like a god.
I like that. I like that we did. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It's a nice little ryme right there. Okay, yeah, I
like that.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Like Yo, team Bronco, stand up, Broncos, stand up.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I mean, listen, I put my foot in my mouth.
I apologize to you. I apologize to all the Bronco
fans out there. I still love you. I never say
anything about it about you know. It will not nothing
malicious towards y'all. It was just a little fun bathroom
between me and that's all.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah. I was, hey, you know the Broncos. Jackson Dark
got dinged a little bit, and I was like, yeah,
put Russ in there. I had that bird man hand
rub Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Hold on, hold on Rusting rusted the child to God.
Now rust is the child to God. Now you're asked
for one of God's people to come in that field,
then the outcome might not have been.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
What your thought.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yes, hey, well Russ must be a step son and
Jackson Darty's real son, because Jackson Dark got the starting job.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Now, so what is he? I understand what you're saying, but.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
What game. We're going to next. Okay, the Browns beat
the Dolphins. Oh Man thirty one. Mike McDaniel bitch Tour
Lake for quinn ewards. He was twelve of twenty three
one hundred yards, zero touchdowns, three interceptions twenty four. He
had a twenty four passer rating. Tour has the most
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two interception games in the NFL since twenty twenty two. OTO.
This is this is why I tell you quarterbacks, keep
your mouth shut. Now we're gonna have a conversation about
you guy in Tennessee. Now you remember your guy in
tenni say week that's why you keep your mouth shut.
Now back to tour, O yo, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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I will let you the Miami guppies or.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Listen to it. When you when you.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
When you stand tall with your head high, and you
hold other people accountable and tell us about things that
are going on in your house, a house where we
had don't have the key to, so it's no way
for us to know what's going And then to see
on your chest as that captain, you have to always
be front and the center and being the one to
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be playing at your best. You got to be playing
at your very best at all times. So what you're
saying in front of the media and your plate, it
ain't matching up. It ain't matching up. You can't be
talking here but playing down here at the bottom. There
has to be some some some type of even keel
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where everything makes sense. Okay, you know what, he can
get in front of the media and say some of
the things that are going on behind closed door, because
once he touched that guy, damn Field, he's that boy.
He's doing his thing. But when you play like that
and on the opposite in trying to do that, it
ain't It wasn't pretty.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I was upset. I was upset watching I was upset
watching the game. We don't even have a chance.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
We didn't have a chance to compete, let alone you're
already going against one of the better defenses in the league.
So officially, you've got to do that much better. You
have to raise your level of play. Tyreek is gone.
He's not walking back through that dough. He's not walking
back through that dough. And it wasn't like Cleveland did
a whole lot. It was just that you were so pathetic.
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Miami offense was so anemic.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
They didn't really have to do anything because you gave
him short fields. You gave up a pick six. This
is what you do. Call Bill. David used to always
tell us my college coach, they son, you praise in public,
you chant dives behind tools.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Who whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa See
I forget hey, listen, I got I got it with
you today.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I'm prepared. Yeah yeah, he said, you chance, you chance,
you chant stands behind closed doors. You praised in public. Ojo.
We played the game. We played Alabama and m and uh.
Coach called uh. He called a quarterback draw on the
first the first two plays he called a handoff, quarterback
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checked out of it, and then on fourth down he
called the draw it again. We lined up. We lose
the game. We're all around the team. Coach says, I've
been coaching twenty years and I've never said this before.
You cast me the game just like that, he said,
he got that. He got that in front of the media.
You know, we just got to play better. Look the
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plays that we didn't make tonight at the quarterback position.
I trust him, I believe in him. That is not
what he said behind closed doors. That's not what he said,
but in public, he knew he had to put on
a brave face. He had to put on a brave front.
I'm not saying to what you said. You should have
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said behind closed doors to your teammates and keep the
media out of it. See, you can't spend it because
see when you say, when the media does this, you
absolve yourself of accountability. You see, instead of saying you, look, look,
I misspoke. Everything that I said. I could have said
to an individual or individuals that I felt that were
late or not being the best representative of the Miami Dolphins.
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That should have never heard that. The media ears should
have never heard what I had to say. But when
he spent it and say the media try to spend it,
now he's absolving himself of accountability. I thought you were
saying that you were sorry because you was taking the
onus of accountability. But that's not what he did. And
now think about it, Ocho, he said that after throwing
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three picks. He follows that up again with yeah, yeah,
so how do I look at you? How do I
look at you? If I'm a player? Ojo? You got
to see on your jersey you're supposed to be one
of our best players. And a large part of why
we're in effect about visibly is because of you.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I told you, Chat, I'm not sure Chat if any
of you have been in a structured environment and play
the sport and you look up to one individual, the
individual who wears.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
The sea on the chest, not only does he wear
the seal on the chest, but he's a leader.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
He not only is a leaders supposed to be, he's
your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
He's your quarterback.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
So you say some of the things that are going
in house about players that are in a building, how
do you think they look at your next? How do
you think they look at you? And you know, you
know how they gonna look at you. They won't say
it out loud publicly, but you know different, Yes, they
always look at your sideways. Now from now on, even
with a public apology and the top of off, the
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top it off, it makes it even worse when you
come back the following week and you play like that.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
And you stunk it up again. You pull your pants
down two weeks in a row in front of public
and took a dump on the field. Now, first of all,
oh Joe, I'm looking at you sideways, because even before
you open your mouth. I knew you weren't playing well,
and I kept that to myself. Now, I could have
put you on blasts or so when somebody say a
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tour with buns or cheeks, I could have liked it.
But I didn't do none of them. No, no, no,
But what did you do? You come, put us on
blasts and you still you got to the meeting on time.
You did everything right, and you looked like stirf Rid there.
So what was your excuse?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
He Sometimes you could do all the talking in the world.
You can do all the talk in the world. All
the talking in the world don't matter. But what does matter?
I know you want to do everything right before you go,
before before you touch this feel on Sundays. But all
that talking and all that means don't mean nothing. If
you go out there and you stick it up Sunday
at one o'clock, you still got to play.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You still got to exq as the exit nose.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
And the person that has the ball the most, the
person that is able to handle the ball the most,
is responsible most of the time, whether you win or
whether you lose.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yes toa now has two or more interception games, and
most he has the most to intercept two plus interception
games in the NFL since twenty twenty two. He's done
that twelve times. It's hard to overc It's hard to
overcome bad quarterback play because you know why, Ojo. You
know why Chat? Because he has the ball all the
(38:34):
damn time unless you direct snap it to a running
back or a wide receiver, which is the wildcat. He
touches the ball. If he's playing bad, he gets hit,
the ball comes out, he throws it, it gets picked,
he runs. I always questioned Mojo, the man know he
has a history of concussions. He breaks away last year.
(38:56):
What does he do? Ojo? He lowers his head on somebody.
I said, You've got to be kidding me here, must
think he must have thought he was.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
I'm confused with where do we go from here?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
As as mister Greer, Stephen Ross, Mike McDaniel, as much
as I as much as I love to you know,
then I have to be critical. I have to be critical.
It puts me aback, It puts my back against the wall.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
And Chat. Y'all know who I am.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I'm the one who really, rarely, very very rarely talks
about people. But this is he's now in a position
where he's doing the Dolphins more harm than good regards
to how much you pay. I know we think he's
making forty five maybe fifty me in a year, but
what we.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
He's not the answer.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
As much as I love and I love him to death,
you know you're putting in harm's way and he want
your quarterback to be the one person you don't have
to worry about. Okay, we don't have to worry about
the quarterback. We can build around here and address all
the other areas where we need to improve. But if
the area is the quarterback position, whether whether where where
the problem is, well, goddamn you really can't go.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
You can't go go goddamn with because.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
That's it starts with him, O Joe. You remember when
they fired Brian Flores and Tua got up there and said,
you know, it was tough coming to work every day
because he was so critical. It was always someone else. Hey,
I don't mind a coach. I listen. My thing is,
I know I wasn't perfect. My position. Coach job was
(40:28):
to tell me where I'm weak and get me better
in those areas. That was his job. Cool job, says
I need a little bit more out of you, Mike
job A eighty four I needed today. Okay, fine, I
didn't take what they said. Oh they just no, no, no,
Because I know if my play I I'm watching the film,
(40:49):
hell I see me. I'm like, damn, I show wish
I can go in there and raise that one. But damn,
they gonna see that on tape. And the thing is,
O Joe, when you loaf on a play or you
it's a block. Guess who else see it?
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Your teammates, everybody, Your teammates see that because they're watching
that same tape. So when they see two go through
his progressions and he throw that ball and dumb, or
they see him take a hit and he coughed the
ball up, they see that.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
They got a big issue on the hands. So Stephen
Ross is probably going to you know.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
You know it's funny too if you think about all
the issues that people have with Brian flore Is. It's
funny how everything he said now is coming to life.
Everything is actually true. And obviously I didn't know because
I'm not in the room. You hear the you hear
the issues. But now everything has come to the Forefront
not winning anymore. Now that they're not winning, everything else
is magnified times.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
You know how that is. Everything starts to get treep
out when you start to lose, people start to tell,
people start to pillow talk all of a sudden, reporters
because reporters do have relationship with certain players on certain team.
And you what, just like, how did they know? Uh,
that meeting took place in Philly?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah, it was fun between three people. How the hell
everybody else know exactly?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Me and you go and me and you go somewhere?
Hold on, oh Joe, how they know? How they know
we went to the mall D? We took people to
the mall D?
Speaker 4 (42:24):
How do they know that?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I probably posted something on Twitter?
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah. See that's why ain't going with you. Cause if
I take somebody, I can say, meet me at the
airport where we going. Don't worry about it. We'll buy that.
We'll buy whatever we need. Get that, cause I don't
want nobody to know, like, you know what.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I gotta use that.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
I gotta I gotta use that. Hey, Hey, that's a
that's a nice little game play right there. Un I
know we're talking about football, right, but telling her listen,
don't ask me no questions. Meet me at the airport
at this time. Don't even pack no super case. We're
gonna buy what you need when you get there. But
that's a nice play, Huh. I'm gonna try that. I'm
gonna try that. Hold on, we write that down.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Hey, Hey, back twenty six, back O'shane'll be well again.
You know I ain't well. I ain't well right now,
but in twenty six, it's back on. It's back on. Uh.
The thing is, oh, Joe Quinn yours? I don't know
(43:35):
if he's the answers. You've got to try something or
you're gonna lose the locker room. I don't know how
you keep tour in the locker room after this season.
I don't know how. I don't know how. I don't
know what you owe him. But I've seen teams eat
a lot of money to move on for a quarterback
(43:57):
when they don't feel it's beneficial.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
But you got careful too. You gotta be careful with
moving on. Zach Wilson, cut and errors. Viewers.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Are they the answer? Because you know?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Because you know, I think I think they're gonna probably
go into the draft. Ojo at this point. But I
don't know. I don't know who the top quarterback is.
We talked about me. We watched college football every week, Ojo.
I ain't in love with nothing.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
My point exactly, And I don't think.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
I don't think what we're going to get in this
year draft is a franchise altering quarterback.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I don't think we have that. I don't think we
have a Jackson Dart in this draft.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
I don't think we have uh Jadon Daniels or what
we saw was c de Stroud when they came to
Houston and they changed the dynamic and the strectory of
those teams exponentially in just a few months.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I don't think. I don't think. I don't think that's
out there. I don't. I don't think that's out there.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Maybe someone can come in and develop and become that,
but I just I just don't see it right now.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I don't either. But they're gonna have to do something,
Oh Joe, I don't. I think they're starting to see
that he's not the answer. And if you the one
thing you can't be, you can't be, you cannot be
the answer and the problem. Yeh, oh Joe, you can't be.
You can't be both not the answer and the problem.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
So also what you have to say is when you
take away the weapons that he once had when they
were winning, when they when they when they were you know,
when he's having the great seasons you know, in the
air and then throwing the ball in the age hand
and most of we're having having playing really well on
the ground. Once you take all those weapons around you,
that means a quarterback play has to be that much better.
You have to raise your level of play when the
(45:37):
weapons around you aren't what they used to be.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
But he doesn't. He doesn't. He's not that type of quarterback.
If you go back and look at him even in college,
you look at what he was throwing. My god, okay,
look at in the NFL, look at what he's had.
So he's not a guy. He can't take average players
and elevate them. It take extraordinary players to elevate them.
So when you got Jerry Judy, when you got Henry Ruggs,
(46:04):
when you got a Devonte Smith, when you got Jalen Wattle,
think about that's for a first round picks. And I
ain't talking about no low first round. That's the boys
look at the running backs that you have, look at
the offensive line that you got. Now he goes to
Miami and he has those weapons around him. So he's
not a quarterback that can elevate you. And you see
(46:28):
what he just has marginal tallent. You see how he works.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
And that's unfortunate too. That's unfortunate for Dolphins fans. Listen,
we've suffered, yes, I said, we've suffered since Dame Marino's
been gone.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Since Dame Marino has been gone, we've suffered.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
At that position and not find a quarterback that we
don't have to worry about that we can lock in
and build around and say, you know what, you are
a centerpiece for the next decade or so, and we
don't have to worry about nothing because we know, come
hell out, hot water, you're gonna make all the right
decisions with the ball. All we have to do is
just bill around you and you're gonna take it from there.
(47:02):
If we happen to lose some key players of offense,
we know you can keep the float, keep the boat afloat,
and we can still win games based on your plate
and decision making with the ball. But right now, it's
bad man it's bad. This is coming from a Miami native,
a Dolphins fan.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
It's bad.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
The Dallas Cowboys double up the Washington Commanders forty four
to twenty two. The Cowboys offense is rolling dak twenty
one thirty two sixty four, three touchdowns. Javonte Williams nineteen carries,
abuck sixteen one touchdown, Cede Lamb first game back, five
catches above ten touchdown, long seventy four, George Pickens four
(47:47):
eighty two long forty four, Jake Ferguson seven catches twenty
nine yards, two tubs. The Cowboys offense looks razy good.
Their defense looked a lot better because they played from
behind and now to get to pen their back. Uh,
they were they they got after. They have four sacks today.
(48:08):
Kenneth Murray Junior had one, James had one. Uh, Jadavian
Clowney had one. I can't even have only missed his brother,
Uh oh Joe watching the Cowboys. As a matter of fact,
they got guess where they're They're on the road next weekend. There.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Hey, I ain't gonna I'm not even gonna talk no trash.
I'm not gonna talk no trash. But I know one
thing past certain the second he's gonna have his hands
full depending on who he follows, whether it be George
Pickens of where to be cde Lamb. But I know
he's going to He's going to do a hell of
a job. See, I might even talk no trash.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
I ain't he Hey, Dak stay away from two. That's
all I'm saying. Hey, uh, C spends a lot of times. Yeah,
he don't really go so he'll probably deal with probably,
But there Look when the cowboy and you can run
the ball out of the cowboys, it's hard. Javonte Williams
(49:04):
getting getting four five six carry So you got I
mean you got the single Luve choice, Riley Mass you
gonna have to But bro, Bro, I mean, at some
point in time, o't, Joe, I'm not gonna lie. At
some point in time you got to say, you know what,
every time somebody need.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
A big throat.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I'm talking about at some point in time you said enough. Yeah,
I'm like Reggie and Professor Clump. With Reggie, they came
with a what you call him? What's his name? What
was what was Professor Clumb with Clump? Uh yeah, professor
Club When he was on Reggie at the at the
(49:46):
at the comedy club, and Regis said.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Enough all them jokes.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Yeah, yes, Riley, at some point in time, you've got
to say enough. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
I mean, you got to make them pay. They want
to come at me. They got to make him play.
I remember, I remember Darn Bland since we talked about
the Cowboys, and they chose not to throw Trayvon diggs
Way and they kept throwing over there the Bland and
he kept picking everything off like a booker. Yeah you
got it, got another today. I mean, let's you. Hey,
(50:20):
the Cowboys look good. They look they look so good.
They have they have looked good offensively. Their problem has
been defensively when when they when other teams, when they
when they're playing ahead, that's when the defense look good.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yes, because you you neutralize the threat of the run.
Because if their problem is that when the defense is
bad and the offense dak you know, they he turns
it over, he gets a pick. Uh, they fumbled them all.
If you tell me that they're going to be able
to play with the lead or they're gonna be able
(50:57):
to be nipping, you're gonna have your hands full because
they can run it with Javonte and they got two
guys that can go get it. And then that tied
end that that.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Nice Jake Fergusson.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
He ain't got no great speed, but he got great.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Hey y Ferguson this night.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
And the funny thing about it, Tude, when you see
the Cowboys playing chat chat, y'all, stay with me. When
you see the Cowboys playing the way they playing today,
they can compete with anybody.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
They can compete with anybody.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
I'm talking about the package, I'm talking about the Chiefs,
I'm talking about the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Are all those.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Teams that are high scoring, that can that can score
twenty five thirty points a game, The goddamn Cowboys can
do that every single week, every week. Hey, one thing
I to add I want you to tell Cowboys fans
some I tweeted some earlier today is I was.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Talking about George Pigts, right.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
Obviously George Piggins there, he's on a one year deal
and obviously they have to do something with that at
the end of the season. That yeah, I mean, it's
price points gonna be too high. They're gonna have to restructure.
See the Damazon already got his money, and I'm telling
people it would be good for George Piggins to be
able to go somewhere and get his money, which is
which is well deserving based on the seasons he's having,
being that all the other receivers have gotten the money,
(52:06):
and then everybody's about, Oh O Joe, shut up. Pickings
ain't going now where he's gonna stay here? Well, who
gonna take a discount? Because what is the thing, Ojo?
Speaker 1 (52:16):
They got? Look, they're gonna have money under the camp
for the simple fact they're gonna redo Dak's deal. Let's
just say dak cap number is gonna be third seve
He ain't playing on that number next year, so they'll
probably do get give Dak another you know, say he
has two years left on that deal. We'll add we'll
add four years to it. We'll give him you know what,
(52:37):
We'll give him another sixty million. We'll give him one
hundred and fifty million, two hundred million guaranteed, whatever the
cake may be. To get that cap number down. We
get his cap number thirty. Now we can focus our
attention on George hold on.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
So if you're gonna focus your attention on George Pickings, right,
and the cap is round thirty, what you're.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Giving what you're giving Pickings a year.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
I'll give him somewhere between thirty two and thirty five.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Okay, okay, we're talking business like.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
I like for your mind at I like I like
your for me, for me honestly, based on Wigan did,
based on what he can do and what he showed
you he can do.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
He showed it with the quarterback carousel with the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
He show me to do in a consistent, competent offense
with a good quarterback and deck.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Hey give me thirty five guitar.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Here's the thing. He knows. He knows he has a quarterback.
He can get it the ball. He knows that they
double if they double CD, he's getting one on one coverage.
That's gonna look for it, Dak. Don't give him every opportunity.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
To if he make it every last one and.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
He's making every last play, now that the only problem.
And people and I and the people say with Shannon,
the Bengals were able to keep T. The difference between
George Pickins and T Higgins the Bengals drafted T. T
had been there for three four years. George Pickins is
right now as a rental. Now you can't buy rental cards.
(54:01):
You can go to Hurts and yeah they had them.
They had the mustangs that you can buy. You can
buy a rental card from Avis. You could buy it.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Hey, but this is the problem. I don't like.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
You understand Jerry Jones. You understand how Jerry Jones conduct business.
He understand how he's made all his stars wait and
he drug out the process when it comes time to
pay players.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
That's all he has. David Muga letter, You know, David,
David moved again. But hey, he said one one negotiation
doesn't doesn't represent another negotiation. George Finking is gonna want
somewhere between thirty two and thirty five million. He don't
(54:46):
give a damn who gives it to him? Cowboys, he said,
he don't give it damn what who gives it to it?
Speaker 2 (54:52):
I told y'all, y'all don't listen to me.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Hey, Yojo anything Joe you might like off in the
whole of us. But if they don't got it, I
go to Trader Jones. If they don't got it, I
go to Smiths. If they don't got it, I.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Go on neither.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
People.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
The people try to tell me in the earlier. You
know early on Twitter, he ain't going nowhere, he gonna
take less money. Huh No, do y'all do y'all understand first?
Speaker 1 (55:18):
You know they look. The thing is is that, like
I said, when you look at Dak's number, Dak's number
is seventy four million. He's not playing on a seventy
four million dollar cap. They're gonna get that down in
probably next year's cap probably be somewhere around twenty million,
thirty million. But give him a big signing bonus, probably
one hundred million dollars to sign. Yeah. Yeah, but George
(55:38):
Pickens's gonna want.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
To eat, got to it's first, You're gonna want to eat.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
Now. You got money because you didn't sign Michael. You
got you got money, and you've taken care of You're
taking care of your guards, You've taken care of Duran Bland,
You've taken care of people that you need to take
care of. And pick is a guy. Look, Jerry loves offense.
He loved the way is playing. And when you see offense,
(56:03):
be like, okay, this is when you had Michael Levin
and you had Alan Harper, you double you double Michael
Alvin Harper is gonna make you pay him the backside.
You got a j novcheck and and Jake Perguson shorthanded, reliable,
not the best blocker. But you know what we didn't.
(56:24):
We ain't brought you here for the block. We brought
you here to catch. Catch, get us, keep us the
first down, keep us, keep the chains moving, and touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (56:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
He had a touchdown catching his four straight games. Javonte
had his second one hundred yard rushing game, six rushing
touchdowns on the season. He's healthy. I loved him coming
out of North Carolina and he had he had he
had a good you know, early years with the Broncos,
but he hurt his knee and then he came back
and he wasn't the same. You know, unless you Adrian Peterson.
(56:55):
You know, it normally takes you a year and a
half for that need to get right. Now they got
the guy that's a year and a half removed from
that surgery. And now this is what when the Broncos
selected him in the second round, this is what they
thoughtwoy but the Cowboys look good. Now we got to
talk about Jane Daney's twelve to twenty two touchdown. He
(57:17):
ended up tweaked his hamstring. Uh, we'll see you gonna
get an m I tomorrow. We'll see the extent of that.
I don't know how far they can go without him,
with without without listen Mariota.
Speaker 3 (57:32):
It showed he can play some good ball, he can
string off, he can string off some wins. But he's
too up and down. H you don't know which, You
don't know which agent. Yeah, you don't know which you're
gonna get. But obviously he coming in and starting in
a game where you haven't had many reps with the
Ones and being thrown in the fire.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
You have to catch You have to catch yourself in
the rhythm. You got to get yourself going.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
Obviously you're not You're not acclimated to to to the
speed of the game. You're not acclimated to the tempo
in general. You know the play, you know it's just
supposed to do. But your time is gonna be off
a little bit. Your time is gonna be, you know,
be a little rusty. I think if, obviously, if if
he's not able to go this week, if Jade Dames
is not able to go this week, and he gets
another week under his belt with the Ones and getting
(58:16):
this getting us getting that rhythm going with the ones
and Temple going with the ones.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
I think he'll be fine and played much much better
next week. But it's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
It's hard to come off the bench and make sure
the team doesn't miss a beat and you coming and
just do your thing, especially when you're playing from behind.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
Yeah. Yeah, they just pinted their ears back dak last
four games, won't yo. He had three hundred and nineteen
pass yards, three touchdowns, two hundred and thirty seven yards,
four touchdowns, two hundred and sixty one yards, three touchdowns
two hundred and sixty four yards today, three touchdowns, zero interceptions.
He's got to be who is the leading the league
(58:57):
in touchdown passing Stafford? Because Stafford had less than two
under half five teams today. I think Jackson, I thought Jackson.
I think Jacksonville, you know, ifty their tank against Kansas
City because they little like st the last two games.
But we're gonna talk about it because because y'all, y'all
talk about you and I, we don't talk about the
Jags enough. So we're gonna jump on y'all last today
we're gonna talk about you. We got something for you
(59:18):
be careful what you wish for. I think Mahomes has
fourteen with two picks, dak has sixteen? How many Stafford has? Yeah,
(59:45):
we're all right. They hadn't really said the statu. Matt
Ohen tweeted, I don't care what it costs. Dallas needs
to find a way to sign George Pickens to a
long term deal. This isn't Batman, Robin. The Cowboys have
Batman and Superman at Widers.
Speaker 2 (59:59):
Like that. I like it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Jane Daniel, as I mentioned, exit the game with a
hamstring injury. His mom, Regina, Jane's mom, tweeted after I
wish you would stop manifesting r G three on my son.
Words are powerful, and that's still and that's all that's
talked about. I agree.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
One thing, one thing about the power of the tongue.
It never feels power. I'm moreis cautious than everything I say.
Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
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