Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the San Francisco 49ers beating the Carolina Panthers on Monday Night football in a sloppy game, Shedeur Sanders has officially been named starter against the San Francisco 49ers next week, and Antonio Pierce says that the Raiders were ready to draft Shedeur when he was head coach and much more!
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little later. But first, the game that you just witnessed,
the forty nine Ers beat the Panthers twenty to nine.
Krista McCaffrey against the old team that he used to
play for that drafted him as a top ten pick
out of Stamford. CMC had one hundred and forty two
yards from scrimmage. He had eighty nine of those yard
twenty four carries eighty nine yards long of seventeen one touchdown.
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He had seven kedulees for fifty three yards. So he's
on pace oho to do something that only Heed, Roger
Craig and Marshall Fulk has ever done. Rush and received
four thousand yards in a single season. All those guys did.
Those guys did it once. If McCaffrey stays on the
pace that he's on, he'll do it for the second time,
so something very very special if something bears watching. Oh,
(05:11):
here's the forty nine schedule at Brown's times at home,
at Coats, Bear Seahawks at home. Yeah, so they got
they got a pretty nice schedule. They got what what
is that twelve twenty two, so that's a Monday night
They got the Coats on Monday Night football. And then
they follow that up nbc A five to twenty games,
(05:33):
so that's a that's a Sunday night game. So but
this game, oh yo ooh party party was pretty awful.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Listen not only was pretty awful, though he threw into
Sepis in the first half.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
J C.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Horn played out his goddamn mine, the defense played out
they got damn mine, and the Panthers offense it failed
us tonight on the Panthers offense failed us to night.
I'm not sure what was wrong with Bryce Young and
he mc millan and some of the receiving Jimmy Horn,
but they were off their communication. This far into the season.
You shouldn't be having mental errors like that or or mistakes.
(06:09):
Mistakes like that, especially in the passing game because he's
throwing the players that are running one route and the
players are going a completely different way. Yeah, so a
lot of players were missed down on the gold line. Bryce.
There was no need to throw that ball, but you
got you got number of green grass in front of you.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Even if he throws.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
The thing is, you know when you roll out Oho,
you cut half to feel off.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
So now they're flowing.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
They know first of all, down there, o Joe, you're
not finna throw it all the way back pyeline.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
You rolled into your right. You've got to release that ball.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You don't have to take a full roll because the
further you roll, the field get condensed more if more condensed. Yes,
that's why the guy on the front side was able
to fall off, because you brought the bright side tight
end to him.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You gotta throw that ball earlier. Yeah, you run out
of real estate.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Well he didn't. He didn't even have to throw the.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Ball at all. You would go ahead, run it.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Huh's nothing but green grass in front of him, Nothing
but green grass in front him. Obviously his eyes were
locked in on the receiver, you know, in the back
of the end zone. Outside of that. This isn't this isn't.
This wasn't panther football tonight. This is not this is
not the This is not the Carolina Panthers that we've
we've been watching that won the last five of their
last five of this last seven games. They lost one
(07:24):
to Night, but it wasn't good. The defense did what
they needed to do. Offense. Offense left left a lot
of points, a lot of players out there on the field.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, I thought that.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I thought Carolina got away from the running game a
little bit too early. They didn't have the ball a
whole lot. What looked like they had the ball forty
two total plays. That's not a whole lot. But when
you look at it, oh yo, I think the thing
is is that let's let's let's talk to forty nines first.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, Jennings.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
When you run, when you run that that over route,
if you gained ground, you're gonna allow that corner back
to jet it or to cut you. And that's what
he did, the dig route. The dig Oh Joe, you can't.
You can't run that now. If you run that route
like that, if you gain ground, he gonna right up.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Under you, especially somebody like jac Horn, someone that that
that is as sound as him. He has good eyes,
good discipline, and he gonna play hena. He's gonna he
gonna stay on. He's gonna stay on the inside hip
every time.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, don't get it right.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
He rounded by damn near four five years.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I'm like, you.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Gotta keep, you, gotta keep, because once I got him
there with you, I gotta keep him on my hip. Yeah,
because if I let him up underneath on that square
square in, that's what it's called square.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It's a square in, square out square, So on that
square in on you.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I gotta keep him on my hip because if I
give him, if I give him any leeweight, he gonna
undercut it, or he might grab me and sling shot
himself round me by my waist, pull himself forward right
there up underneath the throat.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And and you know what another thing that a lot
of receivers need to get out of doing too, Uncle,
then get to the top them routes they do doing
all that wiggle. They do that wiggle instead of just
getting it getting up to your point and just snapping
that thing off. When you play against a good corner,
I'm talking about the good ones. And when you do
that wiggle, all they do is they stop their feet.
So if they stopping their feet and you sitting there.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Wiggling, they're gonna drive on it. Ask your question.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You can't do that with the good dvs.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Let me ask your question. You run a go ball
like that, you get a ten yards and now you
all of a sudden, you're doing this on the go ball.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
No, everything it's got it's gotta look the same every time.
Everything got to be even if you don't run full speed,
give the illusion. Give the illusion that you are running
full speed. Get the way you got to and snap
that thing. Of all them tricks and all that. It
works on your average corners. But when you go against
the best, the better dv's, the j C Horns, you know,
the passertain the Denzel awards. You not pulling that off,
(09:52):
then get that. Yeah, any indication you give them they
stopping their feet.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Driving, yes, because that's the indicator you. You know, you're
taught to give an indicator to your quarterback, but you're
also giving an indicator to your to the dB. Also, McMillan,
there's a reason why we say you to keep your
arms tight. You see how he got his arms out.
Wasn't that dB do o jo put tugging where he
would have been? He hit twenty seven right in the chest.
(10:18):
That's why they tell you to keep your arms tight
because they grabbing anything.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Go yo.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Always, they're gonna grown and they're not gonna call it
every goddamn time.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
They're not gonna call it. They're not gonna call it.
But this was a really sloppy game. I was surprised
how sloppy the game was. U Perty did not look
good tonight. Uh twenty three or thirty two, one touchdown,
three interceptions.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Uh, that was that was just awful.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
That was just offul His defense biled him out because
they got to turn over and then Bryce Young comes
right back and gives.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It right back to him.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
They got to look, Carolina really has a very small
margin for era. Yes, because they're such a young team
and they're not they're don't they don't have top five
talent at any position on the offensive side of the football.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Okay, So with.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That being said, you can't do what they did tonight.
You can't turn that ball over like that on the road.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Excuse you can't. You can't, especially not with the way
the defense is playing. You can't keep putting the defense
out there on the field, putting them in harm's way.
Obviously when they they're getting stops, you getting the ball,
you had turn them. They got three points off of
three turnovers. They got three points off of three turnovers.
You got, you got, you got. You got to get
more than that, because they give me the ball back
and give you the opportunity to not put the game away,
(11:32):
but at least extendedly enough to have a chance on
the back end.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And they give you and give you short feels. Yeah,
you got to get something. You got to get something
more than Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument,
Oh Joe, you're only gonna get three out of each one. Okay,
that's nine points. But you gotta come away well three turnovers.
You got to come away with more than three points.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Something.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You got to It'll be nice if you cash one
of the one of those guys in for a tug.
But three points and like I said, I just didn't
I thought they I didn't think they ran the ball enough. Yes,
I mean you got Dalbo back there. You got you
a Hubbard run the football. And I know you're probably
thinking about, well, you know they don't have those pass rushers,
they don't have Bosa, you know, warners not in there.
(12:16):
There's some things that we can take advantage of. They
don't have the most outstanding corners. Run the football. Run
the football. That is your friend when you're on the road,
you need to run the football. But the forty nine ers, Look,
the forty nine ers keep there. They got to stay
attached to the Rams and the Seahawks eight and four
(12:37):
right now, So that's when they leap. They leap over
Detroit for the seventh seed. Not Detroit falls back to
the eighth seed. But they haven't had their buy yet.
I think Detroit's had their bye. Haven't Detroit had their
buy because Detroit seventy four, So that means they had
(13:03):
to buy already because the forty nine ers haven't had there.
That's why they're twelve.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, they're like, we might go ahead and run this
thing all the way through.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And yeah, it was. It was a it was a
sloppy game on you.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I expected the forty nine ers to play a lot
would be a lot crisper than what they were. Hell,
I thought Bryce Young, considering what he had came, what
he had done, I mean, what that four for?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Who's that against the Falcons? He had?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
They were down fourteen and came back.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, he had. He had started to play really well.
I really like McMillan's game. McMillan is really good. He
can really really play OJO and he's only gonna get better.
He's doing this in his rookie season, so I can
just imagine in two three years what he's gonna be. Like, Hell,
he might who knows, he might even take a leap
like a JSN did. Now I'm not saying, look that
that's I'm not saying that's gonna happen. But he's on
(13:59):
pace to have over two thousand yards on one hundred
and twenty five catches. So he's he's doing he's and
he's in that zone right now. I just want to
once you don't you know where, You've got a special
season going. Everything just seems to go your way. Every catch,
every deep ball car him you catching, everything just just
it's just zening.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
It's just perfect whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Uh uh McCaffrey, Oh, oh, that's why he was fighting.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Huh at the end of the game.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Oh okay, oh ah Man Jennings, that's why he was
fighting at the end of the game. But dB punched
him into the fire pole.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Oh I missed that I missed that.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's why at the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, I was, I was setting it up.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh that's gonna cost him, that's gonna cost him a fine.
I mean, that's gonna probably cost him like twenty five
fifty thous holder.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
What kind of fight we talked about, like like a little.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Shoven Well he put Jenny's was blocking in and he
boh okay. So at the end of the game they
got into a little tussle. But you know, they got cameras,
so they see all that. The refs might have not
caught it, but them twenty two cameras they.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Got yea, they called it.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So don't even don't even Hey, save your time, don't
hey that Tuesday that you was gonna call in to
appeal that. Yeah, go golf it, don't waste the time. Yeah, yeah,
go golfing because it ain't gonna help. But yeah, this
was this was a game I thought would be a
little better.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Uh. It wasn't clean.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I mean what you get five five total turnovers.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Sloppy game. Sloppy game.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
But the forty nine ers win moved to eight and
four Carolina six and six. Uh, San Free twenty Carolina nine.
Let's get to something that's a little bit more interesting.
Speaking of the Niners Old Show, Shador Sanders was officially
named the starter next week against the San Francisco forty
nine er. Here is Kevin Stefanski making the announcement earlier today.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Shudor will start this week.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Obviously, you know, number one job of quarterback is to win,
so excited to get that first win under his belt.
And then next thing is improvement, and that's what young
players do, certainly young quarterbacks. Do you get one game
better and that's just from from working at it. So
that'll be our focus.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I like listen, I like it.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Obviously that there's a lot of room for improvement. Based
on his first game, there were some things that he
did well, there were some things that he didn't do well,
But obviously the most important thing is he won. He
won the game. But based on what we did see
and the potentials that he will and can have is
the promise, the promise that he can change the dynamic
of that offense. Obviously being able to throw short intermediate balls,
(16:52):
being able to check it out, check the ball down
as well, but being able to have the deep ball
as a weapon, ye as a weapon and just just
to keep defenses honest. So I think that's a great thing.
He's going to have a full week of work with
the ones, which is different for him now, and he
can only improve. He can only get better from this
point on going forward. So I'm excited for him. I'm
(17:14):
excited for the Browns organization. I'm excited for the Browns fans,
you know, because he, I mean, Schuder gives him hope.
I'm not saying Dylan Gabriel didn't. I'm not saying Joe
Flacco didn't. But I think he just gives him hope,
and it's something that everybody wanted to see, including the
players that are inside that locker room, and including the fans.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I don't think he had a choice in this situation.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
You got to realize, Joe, they had lost their last
eleven games on the road. They hadn't had us started
to win a start in seventeen seventeen different quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
They've had forty two different quarterbacks. They've had.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Damn there as many starting quarterbacks as we had us presidents.
And you got to go back down there two hundred
fifty years hell we've only had forty seven presidents.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
O yo.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, they've had forty two starting quarterbacks since ninety nine,
so that's crazy twenty six years versus damn your two
cents over two centuries.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't I don't really know if they had a choice.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Look, I don't know if it was Andrew Berry, if
it was Jimmy and d Haslam, I don't know if
it was Stefanski. But he showed some a different tune
today compared to what last night and what he's been
singing all the way up into this. This is a
different harmony to here I ain't never heard of. I
ain't never heard him sing like this before. This must
be auto tunes.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Hey listen, you gotta do what you gotta do. And
I think, I honestly, honestly, I think that locker room.
I think they were the riot. I think the fans,
the fans were right because enough is enough. I think
that that the fans are fed up. I think the
people inside the organization are fed up. I think the
players inside the locker room this is what they want.
(18:49):
So I think the fancy kind of have kind of
have his hands maybe tied behind his back despite this
might not be wanting the decision that he wants to make,
but he had no choice but to make it at
this point. See what the way they're going. So I'm
hoping for the best for Stefanski, that organization and Shador.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
All I know is I've never seen Miles Garrett with
this happy earlier in this season.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Give me hope.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I think the thing is is that, look, obviously, when
you got a great quarterback, you got the Brady and
the Manning, you got the Stafford. You don't hope, you expect.
There's an expect There's a difference between hoping to win
and expecting to win. Right now is your door gives
them hope. Hopefully, as he improves and get better and better,
he'll give them an expectation of winning.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Now, some quarterbacks you're like, well, look here, if.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
The defense can hold them to under seventeen, if we
can get a big play here there, if we get
a strip sack, if we can get a punt return touchdown,
we get.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
A scooping score. All those.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Now, it's hard to consistently win when so many things
have to come into play for you to win.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Shoulder gives them hope.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Mm hmm, that's what he gives them. I think the
guys believe that they can win the game with him
playing at quarterback. And it's not like I mean, it
would be great if he if he had to score
thirty five, but it's gonna be hard for me to
see a defense of offense getting thirty five on that defense. Now,
it's gonna be a great matchup because Trent Williams going
(20:22):
against Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Hey, that's gonna be nice.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Trent's coming off from he's coming off of major injury
after last year he's and watching him, he's not his
same dominant self. He's gonna have to be on his
best behavior because Miles. Have we talked about js cn
is in that zone?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yes, you hear players.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Talk about baseball players they're in the zone and everything
slows down and the ball looks so big. Basketball players
the who looks so big? Yeah, Miles Garrett in the zone?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And listen, I don't I don't think
anything gonna stop him from getting that record. H I
don't think anything's gonna stop I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I don't want to. I don't want him get twenty three.
I want him to blow it away. I want him
get twenty five twenty six would I want him to
break the record that when they think about it, like, damn,
this man got twenty six sacks.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
That's crazy in a season.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Then that's what I want. That's what that's what that's
what I want. See you say, boy, they break the
record a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
He put it at nine five eight.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Oh yeah, hey it's gonna be. I don't I don't
think anybody gonna have a catch. Oh I don't think
so either, not in our lifetime. No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Unless he got a hurricane blowing behind him. That's the
only way somebody go is like flow Joe's record?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
What what's flow Joe record in one hundred again?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Ten forty nine.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
But that's faster than some men.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, and she did that in eighty eight. That's crazy.
I mean she obliterated, obliterated the record.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I think Evelyn Nashal have Evelyn Ashford had the record
at ten seventy six. I think she, I mean, come
on right, it's like you saying, you saying took the
record from Rosopho pal from nine to seven five to
nine seven two and then went nine seven two to
nine six.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Nine, and then he goes nine to five eight.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Oh, hold on nine five eight and celebrating before you
even cross the goddamnit.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
No, that was no, that was the nine six nine
that he did it.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Debase, Okay, okay, I still.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Believe had he run through that, that's something that we
never gonna see now. I mean, you have to be
on the back of a thoroughbread to beat that time.
But it was special. And that's what I want Miles
Garrett to do. I want Miles Garrett to obliterate this
record because you know Gastanog. You know that Gastano was
complaining about it. People didn't like him. I don't I
don't really know enough about him. That was before my time.
(22:40):
He was a part of the New York Sack Exchange.
It was him, Dan Klecko, Marty Lions and Abduala salar
Rest his soul uh and and Mark Gastanov.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
They would call themselves the New York Sack Exchange.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
And then straight hand got it and they say, well,
Brett Farve gave him that sack. So everybody was being
and moaning about at TJ. Watt tied the record at
twenty two and a half. So Miles Garrett, come on
to get you by twenty five, twenty six and put
this thing to bed. And then A, you can kick
your heels up because A get twenty six sacks, because
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he's on the I mean, thirteen sacks in the last
four games.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
And listen, he's he's on the crazy pace right now.
Like you said, yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Had a five sack. Again, he had a five sack,
a nine or four yeah. Yeah, But look, I don't
think Stefanski really had a choice.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I think Ben going on the road and winning for
the first time and god knows how long playing playing
as well as he did that didn't have three hundred
He didn't need three hundred yards. He needed to play well.
He needed to show that he can lead an offense.
He needed to show that he could push the ball
down the field. He need to have command and give
those other fifty guys hope and a belief that we
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can win with him under center. I think he answered,
I think he checked all the boxes. Yeah, and there's
he can improve on, yes.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And I believe he.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Will, yeah, of course, I mean, but based.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
On what we have seen early in this season, I mean,
he ain't looking to just check the ball down.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, check the ball down. Listen, pushed the ball down
the field.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Listen the check doown. That's your last resort, Yes, last resort.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Obviously.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
What I do like from door and watching him, not
in just in college, but actually watching when he gets
his opportunity to play did in the preseason, is he
will get back there and go through his progression. He
will go through his progression. Obviously, he's not a dual threat,
so therefore he has to be better at everything else
when it comes to playing the quarterback position.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yes, correct, correct, Yeah, he's not a dual threat. He's
a he's a he's a Tom. Look, you and I
we're not saying he's Tom Brady, but he's in that
mold because he doesn't have the athleticism that a lot
of these modern quarterbacks have today.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
He's a prototypical drop back quarterback.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
He's a Byron left Wich as part of the because
normally we think we look at somebody look like us.
Oh man, that's Lamar. No he's not, no, no, no,
he not Lamar. What he is he's an old school
drop He's Warren Moon. Yeah, that's what he is. Not
Randall Cunningham not Mike Vic, not Lamar Jackson, not a
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justin Fields, not Cam Newton. He's not Joshing. He doesn't
have that athleticism. He's a prototypical drop that quarterback can
process information and get the ball out of his hand.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah. Would I like to see him take less sacks? Yes?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Would I like to see him not bubble as much
and give up round Yes, But that's gonna come with time,
and I'm sure the coaches are gonna pound that into
his head.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Son.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
We don't have to make every play sometimes we got
to see the next day. Let's not move out of
field goal range. Let's make let's make sure we stayed
and third and manageable. It's hard to pick up thirty
and eighteen. You might get one of those a game,
but you're not gonna consistently make a living pick it
up that kind of down in distance.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
But I expect him to play.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I expect him to improve on what he did on Sunday,
although he's stepping up in competition.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah. Absolutely, And listen here, I was wrong. I was wrong. Well,
I was definitely wrong because I was I was loud.
I was loud yesterday because I really thought obviously once
Dylan Gabriel clear concussion protocol. I definitely thought they were
going back to him. You know, I was loud and wrong,
and I was only loud and wrong simply because I
understood how they played, and I understood what it is
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they really wanted, whether it was the owner that has them,
whether it was Stefanski. I saw the games that were
being played, you know, so I thought, you know, here,
when when when Buddy, when he clicked and cussion protocol,
ain't no way in hell they allowed to do to
start the follow on game. But head they proved me wrong.
They definitely proved me wrong. So, I mean, I'm happy
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for him. I'm listen, I'm excited. I'm excited. I know
one I'm I know one thing I'm gonna be. I'm
gonna be tuned in. I'm gonna be.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I think everybody's gonna be tuned in.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, I think, oh yo, Look, based on the way
he played yesterday and considering they hadn't won a roll
game and eleven, I mean, so it's been so long
a starting quarterbacks first start with the Browns hadn't won
seventeen or up, seventeen down nothing. Forty two different starting
quarterbacks since ninety nine, so you can understand that any
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rail light. I mean, it's I guess it's like you know,
if you live in a cold weather climate. Oh, Joe,
the first time the sun I'm wearing shortance of the
tak talk. Yeah, and then next thing, you know, Hey,
I ain't seen it?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
What is that barrel? Alaska?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
The sun just set and it won't come out again
until January twenty second or twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
That's real. Yes, Oh wait a minute, hold on, hold on.
It helped me, helped me explain, help me understand something
real quick for anybody that lives in Alaska. Chat, y'all
can help me out now? Now, do people willingly live
in the area? Yes, where you get light six months
and you get dark six months? I mean, what's the gist,
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what's the catch? What's the ketchup? Actually living in that?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Some of them boring there? What? Hey? You mean the
kid to say the same. Yeah, some people, some people
are born.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
There, you dead serious?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah for sure?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I mean some Yeah, sometime they have daylight for twenty
four hours. Hey, but hey, we might need to take
a little you know, we don't need to do that.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
You donna think so?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
No, damn twenty four hours nothing but daylight.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Mm hmmm. I like that. I like that. I'm trying
to fake I went to with the Ottawa. I'm trying
to fake out what.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Canada uh huh uh for a Canadian football game? Okay,
you know I was, I was, you know, I was
walking out at halftime. I flipped you know, flipped the
coin din something.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Auto were red blacks.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Nah, they were green with Winnipeg. That's what it works. Winnipeg.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Winnipeg ain't green. Saskatchewan green.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I would well, maybe I went to Saskatchewan, Chad, Where
did I got the chat?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Supposed to know?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I went somewhere. But anyway, I don't think the sun
went down to day. Up there four o'clock in the morning.
I ain't sleep because I wait for the sun to
go down, and I still see the sun. O choe
at four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
That's crazy work, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, but it I mean I could, I couldn't. I mean,
it's hard to say I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
But it takes gets some use to o joe, because
we used the sun come up, sun go down. Your
body is on the clock. But just imagine you get
darkness for two months. Ain't no sunlight. It's uh, it's new,
how new? And it's midnight.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Hey, I don't want to listen. Honestly, that's where I
met it. By the way, with the Saskatchewan, it was Saskatchewan. Yeah,
I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't understand how
that's possible.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, I think that's where I went. Yeah, put my
name in there and see if I went to the Saskatchewan.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Hey, uncle, who who you know over there in Canada?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Who you know over there in Canadache that's kind of those.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
That know won't tell, those that tail won't know.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Okay, Okay, I'm just I don't mean to be in
your business. But okay, my bad, Yeah, my bad.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I just uh, I mean, I would like to go
to Alaska and look around, you know, go fishing.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Fishing. Boy, they got killer whales out there.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Man, we go out there, Well, give a damn about
no killer Well what I want to go fishing?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Ain't nobody trying to fish? Man, I'm trying to.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Don't you want to catch them big on salmon? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, but I want to. We could put on the
on the West suit and we can get in the
water with with the killer whales, with the orcers.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
No, I don't like being in the water. I would
take number showers.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You can't he you can't swim.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Hgh I can swim. Yeah, I can swim. You can't can.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I'm getting that water man. It's okay. Ain't nobody. You
ain't gotta be shamed.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I ain't shamed. I could go anywhere you go.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Oh no, you can't.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, you go anywhere you go. You can't.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I can free dive. I could be under water, damn
there for five minutes. You cannot do the things I do.
I don't need no snorkel. I don't need no tank.
That's what I do.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I've been swimming a couple of times. There you go,
there you go. You see.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I try to tell you how talking about how I
been swimming in the ocean, and you there you go,
there he go.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Chat. Noah, I'm done.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I'm done, I said, Lord, if you help me, if
you help me get out of Glennville, Georgia, I ain't
gonna be in no tub no more, no bath tub,
no foot tub, no wife tub. I'm done with the tubs.
I ain't tukk it mm hmm. I ain't talking I
ain't talking. I ain't took a bathroom. I don't know
thirty plus years, forty years.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
See, since I got, I put it like this here,
since I got, since I left, since I.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Left my grad.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Well, I got a big guarden tub and it got it,
got the flower the party planet that I got this big. Yeah,
it's more than lily got got my my grandmother flower
in there.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
But I don't take no bad. Like I said, if
I were to take a bath throat yo. Yeah, man,
that tub that ring look like Saturn. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
See you you don't know what you're missing. You know
you Let me let me tell you something. Let me
tell you Something'm gonna give you a small example, right,
I want you to visualize with me. Chat Listen, hot
water you running hot water in the tub. Right, it's quiet.
Get you some candles, you got some can a bad bathroom?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
If it in the bathroom, is it dim?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, it's dim, it's dim. So get you get you
get you buy four candles, right, put your four candles
and the folk in the folk corners of the tub. Okay,
you light them up here.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Get you some music. So that's the only light. The
only light is castle, The only.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Light is the candles.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Get you some music.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Put the old j's on, put the old uh hell
melver and the blue notes. You know something like that
little frank yeah, yeah yeah, had the music playing. Get
you some get you some disatertion, Get you some disaturtion.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
The hell you getting disdterged for I ain't watching no dishes.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
No for the bubbles. For the bubbles, man.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Bat bubble bath.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
But come on, tail the store, Come on, come on,
get you will get some dawn then, because I'm gonna
need something.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Cut through this dirt.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Differ get you, get you some dawn. Your music playing
a long night? Think about it? We on nightcap two
outum thirty minutes. You want to relax, You want to relax,
You want to mental reset. How you want to take
it all in? Soak it all in and prepare yourself
to get ready for the next day. Get you a
nice book. Get you a nice book. Man, get in there,
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getting get in that water. Man, Well you good and
sit back and relax for man by the good hour
two hours.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Man you straight man, I thought you had something that
I thought you had something.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Belts will be playing about Oh I would do all that, man,
I wish I might get in the bathtub with some
candle light and some detergent and a damn book.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Oh you think, Oh well, listen the lady that's that's
on you, that you you can have her. But I
don't want you don't need nobody to disrupt your peace.
This is this is, this is the moment of peace
right now. Most of the time when you allow somebody
in your space, at times, it disrupts your peace. Now,
if you want your peace to be disturbed, you can
bring a woman with you.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Man, you joke talking about take a bath with dishdetergent,
man scratching all day tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Hold on, you, don't you You don't make a bubble
bath with dawn.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
That's what I know. I make a bubble bath with
bubble bath.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Boy. You know how much bubble bad costume? You gonna use?
The goddamn don right out there.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I tell you what you can do.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I tell make some good olds, to make some good soap,
make some good bubbles or the Ivory soap. I know
you ain't talk a band with Ivory soap. For a
long time, Ivory used to be the cheapest soap you
could get. That's all we took a bath where we
ain't have no no, no zass to, no iris spring
or any no dub, none of that good.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Old Ivory Solt're only soap that float the foot, and
it be floating right.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, they still say they don't sell ivory soul.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
No more, I didn't sell ivory soap.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
No they don't, Yeah they do. Yeah, I ain't never.
I ain't never heard no ivory.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I heard it, dumb chat, y'all better tell hi about
Ivory soap.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Ain't nobody ain't nobody have no ain't nobody had no
money to buy, no zest to buy.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
No, what's that other green soap?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Dial dial dum, Ain't nobody had no money to buy
that Irish Irish spring. I remember Irish came and that
guy was saying whistling. Yeah, man, I was whistling because
I hated taking the ball. My grandma usued to tell
me all the time, boy, I believe you got gold
in you. Hey, hey, oh Joe, Hey, I throw the
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water up in there and one up under I'm done.
That was a shower for your boy. My brother telling
Brandy that boy that boy ain't ain't no bad get
your blooker.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Hey, Hey, how come when you was up when you
was assured. Man, you never wanted to get into you
never want to take a shower. Man, I don't know
what that was. And that that's for all kids. That's
for all, including including now, even even with mine. Now,
come on, y'all, y'all go, y'all go get together, right man?
Two minutes they come right back. Wait a minute, you
took a shower that fast? No you didn't.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Come on.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Let me see how your ears? Oh bad, look here girl,
go get go, get in the shower. Please.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Man, anybody want to take no bad because I scrubbed.
I scrubbed, say hey, come in and watch my back.
I go one stroke and said no, I'm good because
I scrubbed off you cause if you ain't get it right, hey,
you gotta take that. You gotta take that rag or
go round that wrist.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Oh yeah, like that right there. Got to go behind
them ears. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Hey, hey, Grandma taught me about the mills.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Boy, get you get to day little toe.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
But yeah, they got they the ivory soake.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Hey chat nobody the ivory soap.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, I ain't never heard of that.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Now. I done took up. I done took a bad
with some tide or some stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Now tired some about washing the detergent? Yeah, what the
hell you get tired from?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
We had to wash clothes. We had a clothes line
and everything. So you had one. Look, we had one
before we get before we you know, we got into summer.
Me and my brother and that was working and stuff.
Pulled the money together. We had that washer that was
on the back, so it had the tub in the
bottom and then you pulled the clothes through to wring
them out. See we had a washing machine like that,
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and we had a clothes line. Yeah, okay, I know
about the clothes line.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
We had a clothes line when it used to be
a Monty house and have to wash clothes and the
Scott projects. Yeah, Auntie Auntie, Auntie Peaches and miss Lisa
you were you wash your clothes. You hang him out
there on the line, you go play.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
But see right, see we had to put we had
to put granted underwear on the fence because you ain't
want nobody to ride by and see them.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
So we had to put the man don't laugh, oh yo,
We had we had to put granted.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
We had to put granny underworld of fence and you know,
that's another that's another story.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
You know any about the.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Knee spanky granted, Papa, Livy Uh, Gladys, Jane, Sherman, Deine,
all them got clothes. Yeah, so can you imagine, man,
we had to have sticks up there to hold the
clothes line because it would wait, the clothes line down,
clothes on the ground.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Now you gotta wash it all over again, gotta wash
them all over again. But that was that was the
old day.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I remember that we have to have the ball of water,
and you washed them in a big old I don't
want to tell you, y'all like you that was back
in the eighties. Wash them in that big ass pot.
If you, if you my age older, you know exactly
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I bet you, I bet you. I bet your Grandma'm
gonna tell you what my grandma had me do. I
bet you ain't had to do this though my white
socks caught walking with white socks outside knowing I ain't
supposed to be outside with him. My grandma had a
little washboard. You know, the little washboard, Yeah, man, I
had I had to get them socks man and rub
and rub the blackout on the washboard.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Then yeah, but yeah, washboard, the wood with the with
the with the chest.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah, it looked like you could peel tomatoes with it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Oh, Jo, you couldn't walk around forget outside. When you
came home. You had to take your suit, You had
to take your socks off. You had school clothes, you
had play clothes, play clothes. Yeah okay, Oh yeah I
had the same. Yeah, you came home, you got under
your school clothes, you got in your play clothes. Well,
and then I was, I was. I was a barefoot king.
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Now my brother he ain't never go barefoot. Now, I
don't walk around. I get up and go to the
bathroom in middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I put on crocks, put on shoes.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, I can't walk around barefoot. I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Some good days.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Hell, if I go to the beach, I'm gonna have
on me some crocks the beach. Noah, but the beach.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
You gotta go barefoot at the be the saying yeah,
uh no you can't. Hey, how you gonna move?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
How you gonna walk with crops on in the sand. Oh,
that's that's like, that's a that's a work that's a
workout in itself.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Oh okay, tell me let me know, O Joe, let
me know.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Man says, had he not been fired, he and ownership
were in sync and wanted to draft your door. Sanders,
He says, your duo wouldn't have fall into the fifth round.
He says, your duel was born to play football. He
was one of our top choices. Mark Davis was on board.
We believed in what we saw. He was born for this.
If I would have stayed there, there's no way he
goes in the fifth round. O Joe, what is your
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reaction to ap saying that had he stayed there, he
and Mark Davis was in locked and step to take
your door, and there's no way he goes in the
fifth round.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I mean, that's dope obviously coming from Antonio Peers. That's
coming from someone with credibility, Uh, someone that's been not
only played the game, but coaching the game for a
very long time. So he would have inside sources in
knowing exactly not only would happened when it comes to
the collusion of him falling to the fifth round, but
understand that if he was still the coach of the
Oakland Raiders, excuse me of the Las Vegas Raiders. He
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would have been the pick. They would have taken it
because he wasn't a fifth round pick based on wood
he showed in college. And I believe him honestly, because
he wouldn't just come out here and make up a
story like that, you know, you know, pull it out
his ass. So I mean, it's dope. It's just unfortunate
that wasn't the case. And he got to get it
the hard way. He got to get it out the mud.
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It wasn't given to him. So when he does reach
that status and get that respect that he deserves, it
will be earned. It won't be given.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Well, I think the Fagians.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Look when when Pete Carroll came in there, Pete Carroll
was very familiar with who Gino Smith.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Geno Smith in Seattle of course, so.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
He says, okay, I want Geno And you know that
happened a lot of time. Normally, when the head coach comes,
he wants his guys, general manager want their guy. Yeah,
So Mark Davis allowed him to get Mark Davis didn't
want to fire John Gruden. NFL didn't really give him, no,
didn't really give him a whole lot of choice in
the matter. But so now they've kind of been on
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the tailsped every since. It's it's uh ap seems to
think there there there are powers at play that had
more to do with this than.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
You know, I'm not here, I'm not here to speak
on that. But Wen, there's certain buttons that are that
are pushed and no matter who you are, Okay, this
is what it's gonna be. All y'all get in line
or it's gonna be a problem. Right, I mean, that's
way above our pay grade. I'm about way above. Yeah,
that you will never we will never allow anyone, no
matter how big they may seem and may think they are.
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Nobody is bigger than our program. Never that, and we're
gonna show you we can we still controlled never mind,
you know, I'm yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Mean, I was surprised that given Brady Brady had worked
with your door. Look, at the end of the day,
this is a business. We understand that friends as friends,
we can sit side, we can set things aside on Joe, Yeah, friends,
his friend.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Business is business.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
But I was surprised that given that he had worked
with your door on numerous occasions before, when your door
always like hey, when he did you know, this a
brady time. This is the time that you know, you
go win plays and you make go make plays and
you win games. I was surprised considering that they needed
a quarterback. Let's just say, for the sake of argument,
you get Geno. Is Geno really the guy that you
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that you think you're gonna keep at quarterback for ten
years old?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Joe, No, he's not Gino.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
I was happy for Geno that he got the opportunity
to revive his career in Seattle, ended up going to
the Pro Bowl, put up some big numbers. Gino played
well because it just didn't work out for him with
the Jets for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
And sometimes it happens like that.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Sometimes we go to the first location, we go to
the first job, it doesn't work there. We go to
another job and we're happy ever after. But for whatever reason,
it didn't work out. But he got a chance to
go to Seattle. Pete gets relieved of his duty, piece
goes to Las Vegas, and you know, he wants Geno,
a quarterback that he's familiar with, a system, that he's
familiar with. But I was surprised that, you know, I
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agree with you based on what I saw just my
eye test. It's hard for me to believe that your
door is a fifth round pick based on what he's
done just those two years.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
If you want a.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Different discount what he did at Jackson State, fine you shouldn't,
but I get it.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Well, that's that level of competition X, Y and Z.
I get all that.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
But based on just what he did in college at
see you, that's probably at the latest the third round pick.
I ain't say you got to take him top five.
I ain't say, okay, you say not. There's some things
that you don't see, the significant upside, the high the
vauarded ceiling. Okay, but it's hard for me to see
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a scenario that he's not at least a third round
pick based on what he had done those two years
at SeeU. But now he gets his opportunity and we'll
see what he what he made the most of the
situation that he had Sunday. Let's see if he can
just improve on that and get better and better and
then hopefully, you know, hey, this offseason he gets an
opportunity to go work.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
And he can.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Better, better, better, batter, more familiar with the system. He
got a whole off season to work. I think he
can do something really really good.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Absolutely. Hey, matter of fact, I just thought about another scenario.
What happened boy, that that boy over there with that
stone his helmet? You know, come on, come on down
there to Cleveland man.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Who started? Oh oh pick?
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, yeah, Hey listen, all you needed one?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
All you needed one? Good dog? Now? Oh yeah? For sure?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Hey, chat what y'all think you know? And I'm a
Bengo fan, but I always want what's best for Pick.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Huh for sure?
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Get exactly what he wrong? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:09):
All right, but anyway, Oh, Joe Jamar Chase to apologize
today for spitting at Steeler's defensive back Jalen spending on
Stealer's defensive back Jalen Ramsey on ig he posted to
my team, fans, the Bengals organization, the Steelers organization, in
the NFL community. Please No, I'm speaking from my heart
when I say I take full responsibility for my actions
(46:31):
last Sunday's game at Pittsburgh. What I did was wrong.
The circumstances don't matter. My passion for the game is
no excuse. There's zero place in the sport or in
life for this level of disrespect. I want to personally
apologize to everyone within the Pittsburgh Steeler organization. I let
my emotions in the moment get the better of me,
and I can only hope and trust you know, you
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know none of it represents who I am, not as
a competitor, not as a teammate or a person. I
want to apologize to my coaches, team in the organization
for not meeting my own standard as a leader of
this team. This has been one tough season with some
incredibly hard losses. We've all been frustrated. But in ten
instead of stepping up with calm, class and leadership, I
(47:13):
let you down. My having to sit out yesterday gave
make my actions even more inexcusable. I won't let it
happen again. Finally, I want to apologize to my fans.
I do not take anyone who wears the jersey for granted.
I take my position as a role model. I do
not take my position as a role model, likely as
someone who strives to lead with character and authenticity. I
(47:34):
should have taken a media accountability for what happened. I
am committed to earning back your respect, not with just words,
but with my actions day after day, on and off
the Field. I promise to keep learning from this and
set higher standards for myself moving forward with respect.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Jamar Chase, I like it. I just wish, Oh Joe,
I like it.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Too, But I wish he'd personally said Jalen Ramsey, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Even if he didn say that, he might not have
said that publicly in that letter. I like that. That
was very tasteful. That was very tasteful what happened in
that situation when totally was totally uncharacteristic of who that
individual is. Emotions got the best of him. Yes, I
guarantee you this. I guarantee you this. I already I
talked to Chase too. Now. I talked to him one
time and I let it go. Listen, young bull, take
(48:22):
your punishment, say say you're sorries, get your policies out
the way, and come back even better. Lock in and
focus and do what you need to do. I guarantee
you he called Jaylen Ramsey. I guarantee you. I guarantee
he called him personally and apologized to him, because if
he did it after this came out, I guarantee you
Ramsey would have said something about it. I guarantee you would.
(48:45):
But I know he did. I know he I know it.
I can feel it. I can feel it.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I just know he did.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Because that's the type of that's the type of duty is.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Oh Joe, But you put all of these other people
in there. Why not put Ramsey in there?
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Because he did it on his own? Man, the man
on the phone, A bro, listen, man.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
It's hard, Oho, when you do it like that. It's
hard because the person that you disrespected the most, you
didn't even mention him publicly. You talked about you talked
about Cincinnati, you talked about the fans, you talk about
the Steelers organization, and the guy that you actually did
that too, he doesn't get them.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
I get what you said, maybe behind the scenes. But oh,
jo he put this in a letter, he put this.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
On a post.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
And I commend you, Chase, I commend you, kudos. It
was a mistake. You let your emotions get the best
of you. When emotions are high, logic is low. And
you said some things and we saw it in real time.
I don't think he thought that that the cameras caught it.
But Chase, it's hard now, Bro, to do anything without
it being teped. The revolution will always be televised moving forward.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
But that's all. That's all.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Look, and I don't want a nitpick because I believe
sincerely and genuinely. But there's a there's an art to
apologize it, Ojo, in order to get the full to
in order to have the full effect of an apology.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Now, change behavior is the greatest apology.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Go on, now, I heard you say, change behavior. Now
what what I do want? And I hope Chase see this.
Still be yourself. Don't change who you're on that field.
Do not lose the fucking edge that makes you you.
I understand the mistake you made. I understand.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Don't over the edge.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Don't don't do that, don't go overboard, but do not
lose the edge and what makes you special. Because now
you think you have to conduct yourself like a goddamn
choir boy, That's not what the fuck we finished. I'm sorry,
that's not what we finish. Do absolutely not. You continue
to remain that same dog, that same edge, that same
same confidence that you carry when that goddamn one, I
(50:46):
know you got that seat on your chest. But don't don't,
don't lose what makes you special. Continue to play with
that same edge. You made a mistake, you apologize for it.
I'm sure you talked to Ramsey and apologize to him,
even though Unk and others might want to to be publicly.
You know that that apology to be public to him.
But this is I.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Said, I said this, and I believe and I believe
that at the time, I said, he's gonna apologize because
he's gonna see what we saw, what the world saw.
Now he can hide a round and say, well, you know,
because I don't think he thought nobody saw it, though
Joe he didn't.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
And I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Like I said, when emotion is I logic is low.
But all I'm saying, look, and I know Chad, I
might be nitpicking, but I just wish he would have
mentioned Rambley, ram Ramp, Jalen and to Jalen, Ramsey and
his family. I would like to personally apologize to you.
And maybe you're right. Maybe he's done that off camera
and I'm cool and after this, after we address this tonight,
(51:43):
I'm done. I'm done with I won't have anything else
to say about it. But I'm just said I just
think I just think for me an apology I got,
at least I gotta at least at least apologize to
the party that I offended.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
I understand organizations.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
I understand it in a fil I understand the Bengals,
I understand the NFL. I understand the Steelers organization. I
understand the fans. But the guy that this act happened too.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
Yeah, but dudes ain't worried about that?
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (52:10):
I mean you're thinking as in your position. We talk,
we talk about players. Players ain't worry about Oh, you
need to apologize to me public not ain't excuse me,
the boys ain't worry about that. Hey, man, ain't bro
I'm telling you. I'm telling you how they think. They
ain't worry about No, no public apology. Man brought hit
my line. He apologized. Hey man, listen, we squashed it.
I'm gonna see you when we played when we play
(52:31):
all in three more weeks. Case close.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Oh, let me ask you this. You do real apology.
It's not for the individual. It's for you.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
That's personal.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
It's not the apology because the actor is already done.
You just need to You need to apologize so you
can move forward. I guarantee, like I said, I'm gonna
take you at your word that he possibly.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
I know he did.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
I know he did. I promise you, I'm telling you did.
But I'm just saying knowing knowing Ramsey hold on, not
knowing Ramsey too, you know, just knowing how, knowing how
these boys think, knowing how they act, and they ain't
worry about oh he apologized me. They don't care nothing
about that. Man, young boy man hit my line.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Hey, bro, listen, I don't know. There are certain things
that I could. I could. I mean, I think there's
certain things that you don't have to do.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
But something as disrespectful as that, and we started to
see an escalation of this, not just at the professional level, but.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
We saw that college the other night too.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
I'm like, when did Like I said, maybe it was
the Maybe this happened a lot when we played and
the cameras wasn't there to catch it.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Maybe that's what happened on Joe. Maybe that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
But they listen, they not. They built different. They ain't
worry about that. You know, if there was an issue,
there's a problem, and they handled they ben it's a
little different. They ain't worry about no, you know, saying
it publicly and all that.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Well, then Why do he apologize then, if he wasn't
worried about noning that, why do you apologize I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
I'm saying you speaking on it, having him not mentioning
Ramsey's name when Ramsey probably didn't worry about no goddamn letter.
When I'm telling you, buddy probably hit him, hit his line.
I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
But I'm just saying, I mean, it's hard to have
a public apology when the party that was offended doesn't
get mentioned.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
We can move on, We're gonna need agriss, We're gonna
agree to disagree on that one.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying, O Joe.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I'm not trying to belabor the point, but I'm saying
the offended party didn't get mentioned. He mentioned the the
party's team that they played for, they mentioned the league
that they played in, he mentioned the team, he mentioned
his fans around the NFL, But the party that was
offended doesn't get mentioned.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
That's the That's the only thing I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
In chance, maybe i'm being maybe maybe maybe I'm being
a little extra.
Speaker 3 (54:44):
Yeah, maybe I'm being a little bit a little bit,
a little bit, a little bit, Hey, when they play again?
When they play again?
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Uh, when did they play again?
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Two weeks? Oh they played thirst, they play Thanksgiving. No,
they played the rain Steelers again. They just played the.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Steelers, right, They're done.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
Oh that's it.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Okay, yeah, yeah, so we go. Hey, Chase, like I said,
I had a few interactions with your bro. Have the
emotional respect. Motion's got the best of you. Hey, just
move forward. Learn from this mistake, don't let it happen again.
Keep your head up, chest out, keep moving forward.
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little later. But first, the game that you just witnessed,
the forty nine Ers beat the Panthers twenty to nine.
Krista McCaffrey against the old team that he used to
play for that drafted him as a top ten pick
out of Stamford. CMC had one hundred and forty two
yards from scrimmage. He had eighty nine of those yard
twenty four carries eighty nine yards long of seventeen one touchdown.
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He had seven kedulees for fifty three yards. So he's
on pace oho to do something that only Heed, Roger
Craig and Marshall Fulk has ever done. Rush and received
four thousand yards in a single season. All those guys did.
Those guys did it once. If McCaffrey stays on the
pace that he's on, he'll do it for the second time,
so something very very special if something bears watching. Oh,
(05:11):
here's the forty nine schedule at Brown's times at home,
at Coats, Bear Seahawks at home. Yeah, so they got
they got a pretty nice schedule. They got what what
is that twelve twenty two, so that's a Monday night
They got the Coats on Monday Night football. And then
they follow that up nbc A five to twenty games,
(05:33):
so that's a that's a Sunday night game. So but
this game, oh yo ooh party party was pretty awful.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Listen not only was pretty awful, though he threw into
Sepis in the first half.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
J C.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Horn played out his goddamn mine, the defense played out
they got damn mine, and the Panthers offense it failed
us tonight on the Panthers offense failed us to night.
I'm not sure what was wrong with Bryce Young and
he mc millan and some of the receiving Jimmy Horn,
but they were off their communication. This far into the season.
You shouldn't be having mental errors like that or or mistakes.
(06:09):
Mistakes like that, especially in the passing game because he's
throwing the players that are running one route and the
players are going a completely different way. Yeah, so a
lot of players were missed down on the gold line. Bryce.
There was no need to throw that ball, but you
got you got number of green grass in front of you.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Even if he throws.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
The thing is, you know when you roll out Oho,
you cut half to feel off.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
So now they're flowing.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
They know first of all, down there, o Joe, you're
not finna throw it all the way back pyeline.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
You rolled into your right. You've got to release that ball.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You don't have to take a full roll because the
further you roll, the field get condensed more if more condensed. Yes,
that's why the guy on the front side was able
to fall off, because you brought the bright side tight
end to him.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You gotta throw that ball earlier. Yeah, you run out
of real estate.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Well he didn't. He didn't even have to throw the.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Ball at all. You would go ahead, run it.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Huh's nothing but green grass in front of him, Nothing
but green grass in front him. Obviously his eyes were
locked in on the receiver, you know, in the back
of the end zone. Outside of that. This isn't this isn't.
This wasn't panther football tonight. This is not this is
not the This is not the Carolina Panthers that we've
we've been watching that won the last five of their
last five of this last seven games. They lost one
(07:24):
to Night, but it wasn't good. The defense did what
they needed to do. Offense. Offense left left a lot
of points, a lot of players out there on the field.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, I thought that.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I thought Carolina got away from the running game a
little bit too early. They didn't have the ball a
whole lot. What looked like they had the ball forty
two total plays. That's not a whole lot. But when
you look at it, oh yo, I think the thing
is is that let's let's let's talk to forty nines first.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, Jennings.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
When you run, when you run that that over route,
if you gained ground, you're gonna allow that corner back
to jet it or to cut you. And that's what
he did, the dig route. The dig Oh Joe, you can't.
You can't run that now. If you run that route
like that, if you gain ground, he gonna right up.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Under you, especially somebody like jac Horn, someone that that
that is as sound as him. He has good eyes,
good discipline, and he gonna play hena. He's gonna he
gonna stay on. He's gonna stay on the inside hip
every time.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, don't get it right.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
He rounded by damn near four five years.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I'm like, you.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Gotta keep, you, gotta keep, because once I got him
there with you, I gotta keep him on my hip. Yeah,
because if I let him up underneath on that square
square in, that's what it's called square.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It's a square in, square out square, So on that
square in on you.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I gotta keep him on my hip because if I
give him, if I give him any leeweight, he gonna
undercut it, or he might grab me and sling shot
himself round me by my waist, pull himself forward right
there up underneath the throat.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And and you know what another thing that a lot
of receivers need to get out of doing too, Uncle,
then get to the top them routes they do doing
all that wiggle. They do that wiggle instead of just
getting it getting up to your point and just snapping
that thing off. When you play against a good corner,
I'm talking about the good ones. And when you do
that wiggle, all they do is they stop their feet.
So if they stopping their feet and you sitting there.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Wiggling, they're gonna drive on it. Ask your question.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You can't do that with the good dvs.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Let me ask your question. You run a go ball
like that, you get a ten yards and now you
all of a sudden, you're doing this on the go ball.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
No, everything it's got it's gotta look the same every time.
Everything got to be even if you don't run full speed,
give the illusion. Give the illusion that you are running
full speed. Get the way you got to and snap
that thing. Of all them tricks and all that. It
works on your average corners. But when you go against
the best, the better dv's, the j C Horns, you know,
the passertain the Denzel awards. You not pulling that off,
(09:52):
then get that. Yeah, any indication you give them they
stopping their feet.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Driving, yes, because that's the indicator you. You know, you're
taught to give an indicator to your quarterback, but you're
also giving an indicator to your to the dB. Also, McMillan,
there's a reason why we say you to keep your
arms tight. You see how he got his arms out.
Wasn't that dB do o jo put tugging where he
would have been? He hit twenty seven right in the chest.
(10:18):
That's why they tell you to keep your arms tight
because they grabbing anything.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Go yo.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Always, they're gonna grown and they're not gonna call it
every goddamn time.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
They're not gonna call it. They're not gonna call it.
But this was a really sloppy game. I was surprised
how sloppy the game was. U Perty did not look
good tonight. Uh twenty three or thirty two, one touchdown,
three interceptions.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Uh, that was that was just awful.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
That was just offul His defense biled him out because
they got to turn over and then Bryce Young comes
right back and gives.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It right back to him.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
They got to look, Carolina really has a very small
margin for era. Yes, because they're such a young team
and they're not they're don't they don't have top five
talent at any position on the offensive side of the football.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Okay, So with.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That being said, you can't do what they did tonight.
You can't turn that ball over like that on the road.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Excuse you can't. You can't, especially not with the way
the defense is playing. You can't keep putting the defense
out there on the field, putting them in harm's way.
Obviously when they they're getting stops, you getting the ball,
you had turn them. They got three points off of
three turnovers. They got three points off of three turnovers.
You got, you got, you got. You got to get
more than that, because they give me the ball back
and give you the opportunity to not put the game away,
(11:32):
but at least extendedly enough to have a chance on
the back end.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And they give you and give you short feels. Yeah,
you got to get something. You got to get something
more than Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument,
Oh Joe, you're only gonna get three out of each one. Okay,
that's nine points. But you gotta come away well three turnovers.
You got to come away with more than three points.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Something.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You got to It'll be nice if you cash one
of the one of those guys in for a tug.
But three points and like I said, I just didn't
I thought they I didn't think they ran the ball enough. Yes,
I mean you got Dalbo back there. You got you
a Hubbard run the football. And I know you're probably
thinking about, well, you know they don't have those pass rushers,
they don't have Bosa, you know, warners not in there.
(12:16):
There's some things that we can take advantage of. They
don't have the most outstanding corners. Run the football. Run
the football. That is your friend when you're on the road,
you need to run the football. But the forty nine ers, Look,
the forty nine ers keep there. They got to stay
attached to the Rams and the Seahawks eight and four
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right now, So that's when they leap. They leap over
Detroit for the seventh seed. Not Detroit falls back to
the eighth seed. But they haven't had their buy yet.
I think Detroit's had their bye. Haven't Detroit had their
buy because Detroit seventy four, So that means they had
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to buy already because the forty nine ers haven't had there.
That's why they're twelve.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, they're like, we might go ahead and run this
thing all the way through.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And yeah, it was. It was a it was a
sloppy game on you.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I expected the forty nine ers to play a lot
would be a lot crisper than what they were. Hell,
I thought Bryce Young, considering what he had came, what
he had done, I mean, what that four for?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Who's that against the Falcons? He had?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
They were down fourteen and came back.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, he had. He had started to play really well.
I really like McMillan's game. McMillan is really good. He
can really really play OJO and he's only gonna get better.
He's doing this in his rookie season, so I can
just imagine in two three years what he's gonna be. Like, Hell,
he might who knows, he might even take a leap
like a JSN did. Now I'm not saying, look that
that's I'm not saying that's gonna happen. But he's on
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pace to have over two thousand yards on one hundred
and twenty five catches. So he's he's doing he's and
he's in that zone right now. I just want to
once you don't you know where, You've got a special
season going. Everything just seems to go your way. Every catch,
every deep ball car him you catching, everything just just
it's just zening.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
It's just perfect whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Uh uh McCaffrey, Oh, oh, that's why he was fighting.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Huh at the end of the game.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Oh okay, oh ah Man Jennings, that's why he was
fighting at the end of the game. But dB punched
him into the fire pole.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Oh I missed that I missed that.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's why at the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, I was, I was setting it up.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh that's gonna cost him, that's gonna cost him a fine.
I mean, that's gonna probably cost him like twenty five
fifty thous holder.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
What kind of fight we talked about, like like a little.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Shoven Well he put Jenny's was blocking in and he
boh okay. So at the end of the game they
got into a little tussle. But you know, they got cameras,
so they see all that. The refs might have not
caught it, but them twenty two cameras they.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Got yea, they called it.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So don't even don't even Hey, save your time, don't
hey that Tuesday that you was gonna call in to
appeal that. Yeah, go golf it, don't waste the time. Yeah, yeah,
go golfing because it ain't gonna help. But yeah, this
was this was a game I thought would be a
little better.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Uh. It wasn't clean.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I mean what you get five five total turnovers.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Sloppy game. Sloppy game.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
But the forty nine ers win moved to eight and
four Carolina six and six. Uh, San Free twenty Carolina nine.
Let's get to something that's a little bit more interesting.
Speaking of the Niners Old Show, Shador Sanders was officially
named the starter next week against the San Francisco forty
nine er. Here is Kevin Stefanski making the announcement earlier today.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Shudor will start this week.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Obviously, you know, number one job of quarterback is to win,
so excited to get that first win under his belt.
And then next thing is improvement, and that's what young
players do, certainly young quarterbacks. Do you get one game
better and that's just from from working at it. So
that'll be our focus.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I like listen, I like it.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Obviously that there's a lot of room for improvement. Based
on his first game, there were some things that he
did well, there were some things that he didn't do well,
But obviously the most important thing is he won. He
won the game. But based on what we did see
and the potentials that he will and can have is
the promise, the promise that he can change the dynamic
of that offense. Obviously being able to throw short intermediate balls,
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being able to check it out, check the ball down
as well, but being able to have the deep ball
as a weapon, ye as a weapon and just just
to keep defenses honest. So I think that's a great thing.
He's going to have a full week of work with
the ones, which is different for him now, and he
can only improve. He can only get better from this
point on going forward. So I'm excited for him. I'm
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excited for the Browns organization. I'm excited for the Browns fans,
you know, because he, I mean, Schuder gives him hope.
I'm not saying Dylan Gabriel didn't. I'm not saying Joe
Flacco didn't. But I think he just gives him hope,
and it's something that everybody wanted to see, including the
players that are inside that locker room, and including the fans.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I don't think he had a choice in this situation.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
You got to realize, Joe, they had lost their last
eleven games on the road. They hadn't had us started
to win a start in seventeen seventeen different quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
They've had forty two different quarterbacks. They've had.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Damn there as many starting quarterbacks as we had us presidents.
And you got to go back down there two hundred
fifty years hell we've only had forty seven presidents.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
O yo.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, they've had forty two starting quarterbacks since ninety nine,
so that's crazy twenty six years versus damn your two
cents over two centuries.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't I don't really know if they had a choice.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Look, I don't know if it was Andrew Berry, if
it was Jimmy and d Haslam, I don't know if
it was Stefanski. But he showed some a different tune
today compared to what last night and what he's been
singing all the way up into this. This is a
different harmony to here I ain't never heard of. I
ain't never heard him sing like this before. This must
be auto tunes.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Hey listen, you gotta do what you gotta do. And
I think, I honestly, honestly, I think that locker room.
I think they were the riot. I think the fans,
the fans were right because enough is enough. I think
that that the fans are fed up. I think the
people inside the organization are fed up. I think the
players inside the locker room this is what they want.
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So I think the fancy kind of have kind of
have his hands maybe tied behind his back despite this
might not be wanting the decision that he wants to make,
but he had no choice but to make it at
this point. See what the way they're going. So I'm
hoping for the best for Stefanski, that organization and Shador.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
All I know is I've never seen Miles Garrett with
this happy earlier in this season.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Give me hope.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I think the thing is is that, look, obviously, when
you got a great quarterback, you got the Brady and
the Manning, you got the Stafford. You don't hope, you expect.
There's an expect There's a difference between hoping to win
and expecting to win. Right now is your door gives
them hope. Hopefully, as he improves and get better and better,
he'll give them an expectation of winning.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Now, some quarterbacks you're like, well, look here, if.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
The defense can hold them to under seventeen, if we
can get a big play here there, if we get
a strip sack, if we can get a punt return touchdown,
we get.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
A scooping score. All those.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Now, it's hard to consistently win when so many things
have to come into play for you to win.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Shoulder gives them hope.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Mm hmm, that's what he gives them. I think the
guys believe that they can win the game with him
playing at quarterback. And it's not like I mean, it
would be great if he if he had to score
thirty five, but it's gonna be hard for me to
see a defense of offense getting thirty five on that defense. Now,
it's gonna be a great matchup because Trent Williams going
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against Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Hey, that's gonna be nice.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Trent's coming off from he's coming off of major injury
after last year he's and watching him, he's not his
same dominant self. He's gonna have to be on his
best behavior because Miles. Have we talked about js cn
is in that zone?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yes, you hear players.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Talk about baseball players they're in the zone and everything
slows down and the ball looks so big. Basketball players
the who looks so big? Yeah, Miles Garrett in the zone?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And listen, I don't I don't think
anything gonna stop him from getting that record. H I
don't think anything's gonna stop I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I don't want to. I don't want him get twenty three.
I want him to blow it away. I want him
get twenty five twenty six would I want him to
break the record that when they think about it, like, damn,
this man got twenty six sacks.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
That's crazy in a season.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Then that's what I want. That's what that's what that's
what I want. See you say, boy, they break the
record a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
He put it at nine five eight.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Oh yeah, hey it's gonna be. I don't I don't
think anybody gonna have a catch. Oh I don't think
so either, not in our lifetime. No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Unless he got a hurricane blowing behind him. That's the
only way somebody go is like flow Joe's record?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
What what's flow Joe record in one hundred again?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Ten forty nine.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
But that's faster than some men.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, and she did that in eighty eight. That's crazy.
I mean she obliterated, obliterated the record.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I think Evelyn Nashal have Evelyn Ashford had the record
at ten seventy six. I think she, I mean, come
on right, it's like you saying, you saying took the
record from Rosopho pal from nine to seven five to
nine seven two and then went nine seven two to
nine six.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Nine, and then he goes nine to five eight.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Oh, hold on nine five eight and celebrating before you
even cross the goddamnit.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
No, that was no, that was the nine six nine
that he did it.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Debase, Okay, okay, I still.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Believe had he run through that, that's something that we
never gonna see now. I mean, you have to be
on the back of a thoroughbread to beat that time.
But it was special. And that's what I want Miles
Garrett to do. I want Miles Garrett to obliterate this
record because you know Gastanog. You know that Gastano was
complaining about it. People didn't like him. I don't I
don't really know enough about him. That was before my time.
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He was a part of the New York Sack Exchange.
It was him, Dan Klecko, Marty Lions and Abduala salar
Rest his soul uh and and Mark Gastanov.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
They would call themselves the New York Sack Exchange.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
And then straight hand got it and they say, well,
Brett Farve gave him that sack. So everybody was being
and moaning about at TJ. Watt tied the record at
twenty two and a half. So Miles Garrett, come on
to get you by twenty five, twenty six and put
this thing to bed. And then A, you can kick
your heels up because A get twenty six sacks, because
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he's on the I mean, thirteen sacks in the last
four games.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
And listen, he's he's on the crazy pace right now.
Like you said, yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Had a five sack. Again, he had a five sack,
a nine or four yeah. Yeah, But look, I don't
think Stefanski really had a choice.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I think Ben going on the road and winning for
the first time and god knows how long playing playing
as well as he did that didn't have three hundred
He didn't need three hundred yards. He needed to play well.
He needed to show that he can lead an offense.
He needed to show that he could push the ball
down the field. He need to have command and give
those other fifty guys hope and a belief that we
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can win with him under center. I think he answered,
I think he checked all the boxes. Yeah, and there's
he can improve on, yes.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And I believe he.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Will, yeah, of course, I mean, but based.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
On what we have seen early in this season, I mean,
he ain't looking to just check the ball down.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, check the ball down. Listen, pushed the ball down
the field.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Listen the check doown. That's your last resort, Yes, last resort.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Obviously.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
What I do like from door and watching him, not
in just in college, but actually watching when he gets
his opportunity to play did in the preseason, is he
will get back there and go through his progression. He
will go through his progression. Obviously, he's not a dual threat,
so therefore he has to be better at everything else
when it comes to playing the quarterback position.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yes, correct, correct, Yeah, he's not a dual threat. He's
a he's a he's a Tom. Look, you and I
we're not saying he's Tom Brady, but he's in that
mold because he doesn't have the athleticism that a lot
of these modern quarterbacks have today.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
He's a prototypical drop back quarterback.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
He's a Byron left Wich as part of the because
normally we think we look at somebody look like us.
Oh man, that's Lamar. No he's not, no, no, no,
he not Lamar. What he is he's an old school
drop He's Warren Moon. Yeah, that's what he is. Not
Randall Cunningham not Mike Vic, not Lamar Jackson, not a
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justin Fields, not Cam Newton. He's not Joshing. He doesn't
have that athleticism. He's a prototypical drop that quarterback can
process information and get the ball out of his hand.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah. Would I like to see him take less sacks? Yes?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Would I like to see him not bubble as much
and give up round Yes, But that's gonna come with time,
and I'm sure the coaches are gonna pound that into
his head.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Son.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
We don't have to make every play sometimes we got
to see the next day. Let's not move out of
field goal range. Let's make let's make sure we stayed
and third and manageable. It's hard to pick up thirty
and eighteen. You might get one of those a game,
but you're not gonna consistently make a living pick it
up that kind of down in distance.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
But I expect him to play.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I expect him to improve on what he did on Sunday,
although he's stepping up in competition.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah. Absolutely, And listen here, I was wrong. I was wrong. Well,
I was definitely wrong because I was I was loud.
I was loud yesterday because I really thought obviously once
Dylan Gabriel clear concussion protocol. I definitely thought they were
going back to him. You know, I was loud and wrong,
and I was only loud and wrong simply because I
understood how they played, and I understood what it is
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they really wanted, whether it was the owner that has them,
whether it was Stefanski. I saw the games that were
being played, you know, so I thought, you know, here,
when when when Buddy, when he clicked and cussion protocol,
ain't no way in hell they allowed to do to
start the follow on game. But head they proved me wrong.
They definitely proved me wrong. So, I mean, I'm happy
(26:44):
for him. I'm listen, I'm excited. I'm excited. I know
one I'm I know one thing I'm gonna be. I'm
gonna be tuned in. I'm gonna be.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I think everybody's gonna be tuned in.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, I think, oh yo, Look, based on the way
he played yesterday and considering they hadn't won a roll
game and eleven, I mean, so it's been so long
a starting quarterbacks first start with the Browns hadn't won
seventeen or up, seventeen down nothing. Forty two different starting
quarterbacks since ninety nine, so you can understand that any
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rail light. I mean, it's I guess it's like you know,
if you live in a cold weather climate. Oh, Joe,
the first time the sun I'm wearing shortance of the
tak talk. Yeah, and then next thing, you know, Hey,
I ain't seen it?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
What is that barrel? Alaska?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
The sun just set and it won't come out again
until January twenty second or twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
That's real. Yes, Oh wait a minute, hold on, hold on.
It helped me, helped me explain, help me understand something
real quick for anybody that lives in Alaska. Chat, y'all
can help me out now? Now, do people willingly live
in the area? Yes, where you get light six months
and you get dark six months? I mean, what's the gist,
(27:56):
what's the catch? What's the ketchup? Actually living in that?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Some of them boring there? What? Hey? You mean the
kid to say the same. Yeah, some people, some people
are born.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
There, you dead serious?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah for sure?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I mean some Yeah, sometime they have daylight for twenty
four hours. Hey, but hey, we might need to take
a little you know, we don't need to do that.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
You donna think so?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
No, damn twenty four hours nothing but daylight.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Mm hmmm. I like that. I like that. I'm trying
to fake I went to with the Ottawa. I'm trying
to fake out what.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Canada uh huh uh for a Canadian football game? Okay,
you know I was, I was, you know, I was
walking out at halftime. I flipped you know, flipped the
coin din something.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Auto were red blacks.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Nah, they were green with Winnipeg. That's what it works. Winnipeg.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Winnipeg ain't green. Saskatchewan green.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I would well, maybe I went to Saskatchewan, Chad, Where
did I got the chat?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Supposed to know?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I went somewhere. But anyway, I don't think the sun
went down to day. Up there four o'clock in the morning.
I ain't sleep because I wait for the sun to
go down, and I still see the sun. O choe
at four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
That's crazy work, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, but it I mean I could, I couldn't. I mean,
it's hard to say I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
But it takes gets some use to o joe, because
we used the sun come up, sun go down. Your
body is on the clock. But just imagine you get
darkness for two months. Ain't no sunlight. It's uh, it's new,
how new? And it's midnight.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Hey, I don't want to listen. Honestly, that's where I
met it. By the way, with the Saskatchewan, it was Saskatchewan. Yeah,
I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't understand how
that's possible.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, I think that's where I went. Yeah, put my
name in there and see if I went to the Saskatchewan.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Hey, uncle, who who you know over there in Canada?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Who you know over there in Canadache that's kind of those.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
That know won't tell, those that tail won't know.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Okay, Okay, I'm just I don't mean to be in
your business. But okay, my bad, Yeah, my bad.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I just uh, I mean, I would like to go
to Alaska and look around, you know, go fishing.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Fishing. Boy, they got killer whales out there.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Man, we go out there, Well, give a damn about
no killer Well what I want to go fishing?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Ain't nobody trying to fish? Man, I'm trying to.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Don't you want to catch them big on salmon? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, but I want to. We could put on the
on the West suit and we can get in the
water with with the killer whales, with the orcers.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
No, I don't like being in the water. I would
take number showers.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You can't he you can't swim.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Hgh I can swim. Yeah, I can swim. You can't can.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I'm getting that water man. It's okay. Ain't nobody. You
ain't gotta be shamed.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I ain't shamed. I could go anywhere you go.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Oh no, you can't.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, you go anywhere you go. You can't.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I can free dive. I could be under water, damn
there for five minutes. You cannot do the things I do.
I don't need no snorkel. I don't need no tank.
That's what I do.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I've been swimming a couple of times. There you go,
there you go. You see.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I try to tell you how talking about how I
been swimming in the ocean, and you there you go,
there he go.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Chat. Noah, I'm done.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I'm done, I said, Lord, if you help me, if
you help me get out of Glennville, Georgia, I ain't
gonna be in no tub no more, no bath tub,
no foot tub, no wife tub. I'm done with the tubs.
I ain't tukk it mm hmm. I ain't talking I
ain't talking. I ain't took a bathroom. I don't know
thirty plus years, forty years.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
See, since I got, I put it like this here,
since I got, since I left, since I.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Left my grad.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Well, I got a big guarden tub and it got it,
got the flower the party planet that I got this big. Yeah,
it's more than lily got got my my grandmother flower
in there.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
But I don't take no bad. Like I said, if
I were to take a bath throat yo. Yeah, man,
that tub that ring look like Saturn. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
See you you don't know what you're missing. You know
you Let me let me tell you something. Let me
tell you Something'm gonna give you a small example, right,
I want you to visualize with me. Chat Listen, hot
water you running hot water in the tub. Right, it's quiet.
Get you some candles, you got some can a bad bathroom?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
If it in the bathroom, is it dim?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, it's dim, it's dim. So get you get you
get you buy four candles, right, put your four candles
and the folk in the folk corners of the tub. Okay,
you light them up here.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Get you some music. So that's the only light. The
only light is castle, The only.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Light is the candles.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Get you some music.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Put the old j's on, put the old uh hell
melver and the blue notes. You know something like that
little frank yeah, yeah yeah, had the music playing. Get
you some get you some disatertion, Get you some disaturtion.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
The hell you getting disdterged for I ain't watching no dishes.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
No for the bubbles. For the bubbles, man.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Bat bubble bath.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
But come on, tail the store, Come on, come on,
get you will get some dawn then, because I'm gonna
need something.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Cut through this dirt.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Differ get you, get you some dawn. Your music playing
a long night? Think about it? We on nightcap two
outum thirty minutes. You want to relax, You want to relax,
You want to mental reset. How you want to take
it all in? Soak it all in and prepare yourself
to get ready for the next day. Get you a
nice book. Get you a nice book. Man, get in there,
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getting get in that water. Man, Well you good and
sit back and relax for man by the good hour
two hours.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Man you straight man, I thought you had something that
I thought you had something.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Belts will be playing about Oh I would do all that, man,
I wish I might get in the bathtub with some
candle light and some detergent and a damn book.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Oh you think, Oh well, listen the lady that's that's
on you, that you you can have her. But I
don't want you don't need nobody to disrupt your peace.
This is this is, this is the moment of peace
right now. Most of the time when you allow somebody
in your space, at times, it disrupts your peace. Now,
if you want your peace to be disturbed, you can
bring a woman with you.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Man, you joke talking about take a bath with dishdetergent,
man scratching all day tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Hold on, you, don't you You don't make a bubble
bath with dawn.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
That's what I know. I make a bubble bath with
bubble bath.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Boy. You know how much bubble bad costume? You gonna use?
The goddamn don right out there.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I tell you what you can do.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I tell make some good olds, to make some good soap,
make some good bubbles or the Ivory soap. I know
you ain't talk a band with Ivory soap. For a
long time, Ivory used to be the cheapest soap you
could get. That's all we took a bath where we
ain't have no no, no zass to, no iris spring
or any no dub, none of that good.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Old Ivory Solt're only soap that float the foot, and
it be floating right.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, they still say they don't sell ivory soul.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
No more, I didn't sell ivory soap.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
No they don't, Yeah they do. Yeah, I ain't never.
I ain't never heard no ivory.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I heard it, dumb chat, y'all better tell hi about
Ivory soap.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Ain't nobody ain't nobody have no ain't nobody had no
money to buy, no zest to buy.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
No, what's that other green soap?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Dial dial dum, Ain't nobody had no money to buy
that Irish Irish spring. I remember Irish came and that
guy was saying whistling. Yeah, man, I was whistling because
I hated taking the ball. My grandma usued to tell
me all the time, boy, I believe you got gold
in you. Hey, hey, oh Joe, Hey, I throw the
(35:48):
water up in there and one up under I'm done.
That was a shower for your boy. My brother telling
Brandy that boy that boy ain't ain't no bad get
your blooker.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Hey, Hey, how come when you was up when you
was assured. Man, you never wanted to get into you
never want to take a shower. Man, I don't know
what that was. And that that's for all kids. That's
for all, including including now, even even with mine. Now,
come on, y'all, y'all go, y'all go get together, right man?
Two minutes they come right back. Wait a minute, you
took a shower that fast? No you didn't.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Come on.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Let me see how your ears? Oh bad, look here girl,
go get go, get in the shower. Please.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Man, anybody want to take no bad because I scrubbed.
I scrubbed, say hey, come in and watch my back.
I go one stroke and said no, I'm good because
I scrubbed off you cause if you ain't get it right, hey,
you gotta take that. You gotta take that rag or
go round that wrist.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Oh yeah, like that right there. Got to go behind
them ears. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Hey, hey, Grandma taught me about the mills.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Boy, get you get to day little toe.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
But yeah, they got they the ivory soake.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Hey chat nobody the ivory soap.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, I ain't never heard of that.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Now. I done took up. I done took a bad
with some tide or some stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Now tired some about washing the detergent? Yeah, what the
hell you get tired from?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
We had to wash clothes. We had a clothes line
and everything. So you had one. Look, we had one
before we get before we you know, we got into summer.
Me and my brother and that was working and stuff.
Pulled the money together. We had that washer that was
on the back, so it had the tub in the
bottom and then you pulled the clothes through to wring
them out. See we had a washing machine like that,
(37:40):
and we had a clothes line. Yeah, okay, I know
about the clothes line.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
We had a clothes line when it used to be
a Monty house and have to wash clothes and the
Scott projects. Yeah, Auntie Auntie, Auntie Peaches and miss Lisa
you were you wash your clothes. You hang him out
there on the line, you go play.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
But see right, see we had to put we had
to put granted underwear on the fence because you ain't
want nobody to ride by and see them.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
So we had to put the man don't laugh, oh yo,
We had we had to put granted.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
We had to put granny underworld of fence and you know,
that's another that's another story.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
You know any about the.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Knee spanky granted, Papa, Livy Uh, Gladys, Jane, Sherman, Deine,
all them got clothes. Yeah, so can you imagine, man,
we had to have sticks up there to hold the
clothes line because it would wait, the clothes line down,
clothes on the ground.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Now you gotta wash it all over again, gotta wash
them all over again. But that was that was the
old day.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I remember that we have to have the ball of water,
and you washed them in a big old I don't
want to tell you, y'all like you that was back
in the eighties. Wash them in that big ass pot.
If you, if you my age older, you know exactly
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I bet you, I bet you. I bet your Grandma'm
gonna tell you what my grandma had me do. I
bet you ain't had to do this though my white
socks caught walking with white socks outside knowing I ain't
supposed to be outside with him. My grandma had a
little washboard. You know, the little washboard, Yeah, man, I
had I had to get them socks man and rub
and rub the blackout on the washboard.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Then yeah, but yeah, washboard, the wood with the with
the with the chest.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah, it looked like you could peel tomatoes with it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Oh, Jo, you couldn't walk around forget outside. When you
came home. You had to take your suit, You had
to take your socks off. You had school clothes, you
had play clothes, play clothes. Yeah okay, Oh yeah I
had the same. Yeah, you came home, you got under
your school clothes, you got in your play clothes. Well,
and then I was, I was. I was a barefoot king.
(39:41):
Now my brother he ain't never go barefoot. Now, I
don't walk around. I get up and go to the
bathroom in middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I put on crocks, put on shoes.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, I can't walk around barefoot. I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Some good days.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Hell, if I go to the beach, I'm gonna have
on me some crocks the beach. Noah, but the beach.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
You gotta go barefoot at the be the saying yeah,
uh no you can't. Hey, how you gonna move?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
How you gonna walk with crops on in the sand. Oh,
that's that's like, that's a that's a work that's a
workout in itself.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Oh okay, tell me let me know, O Joe, let
me know.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Man says, had he not been fired, he and ownership
were in sync and wanted to draft your door. Sanders,
He says, your duo wouldn't have fall into the fifth round.
He says, your duel was born to play football. He
was one of our top choices. Mark Davis was on board.
We believed in what we saw. He was born for this.
If I would have stayed there, there's no way he
goes in the fifth round. O Joe, what is your
(40:40):
reaction to ap saying that had he stayed there, he
and Mark Davis was in locked and step to take
your door, and there's no way he goes in the
fifth round.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I mean, that's dope obviously coming from Antonio Peers. That's
coming from someone with credibility, Uh, someone that's been not
only played the game, but coaching the game for a
very long time. So he would have inside sources in
knowing exactly not only would happened when it comes to
the collusion of him falling to the fifth round, but
understand that if he was still the coach of the
Oakland Raiders, excuse me of the Las Vegas Raiders. He
(41:12):
would have been the pick. They would have taken it
because he wasn't a fifth round pick based on wood
he showed in college. And I believe him honestly, because
he wouldn't just come out here and make up a
story like that, you know, you know, pull it out
his ass. So I mean, it's dope. It's just unfortunate
that wasn't the case. And he got to get it
the hard way. He got to get it out the mud.
(41:33):
It wasn't given to him. So when he does reach
that status and get that respect that he deserves, it
will be earned. It won't be given.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Well, I think the Fagians.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Look when when Pete Carroll came in there, Pete Carroll
was very familiar with who Gino Smith.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Geno Smith in Seattle of course, so.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
He says, okay, I want Geno And you know that
happened a lot of time. Normally, when the head coach comes,
he wants his guys, general manager want their guy. Yeah,
So Mark Davis allowed him to get Mark Davis didn't
want to fire John Gruden. NFL didn't really give him, no,
didn't really give him a whole lot of choice in
the matter. But so now they've kind of been on
(42:16):
the tailsped every since. It's it's uh ap seems to
think there there there are powers at play that had
more to do with this than.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
You know, I'm not here, I'm not here to speak
on that. But Wen, there's certain buttons that are that
are pushed and no matter who you are, Okay, this
is what it's gonna be. All y'all get in line
or it's gonna be a problem. Right, I mean, that's
way above our pay grade. I'm about way above. Yeah,
that you will never we will never allow anyone, no
matter how big they may seem and may think they are.
(42:55):
Nobody is bigger than our program. Never that, and we're
gonna show you we can we still controlled never mind,
you know, I'm yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Mean, I was surprised that given Brady Brady had worked
with your door. Look, at the end of the day,
this is a business. We understand that friends as friends,
we can sit side, we can set things aside on Joe, Yeah, friends,
his friend.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Business is business.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
But I was surprised that given that he had worked
with your door on numerous occasions before, when your door
always like hey, when he did you know, this a
brady time. This is the time that you know, you
go win plays and you make go make plays and
you win games. I was surprised considering that they needed
a quarterback. Let's just say, for the sake of argument,
you get Geno. Is Geno really the guy that you
(43:40):
that you think you're gonna keep at quarterback for ten
years old?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Joe, No, he's not Gino.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
I was happy for Geno that he got the opportunity
to revive his career in Seattle, ended up going to
the Pro Bowl, put up some big numbers. Gino played
well because it just didn't work out for him with
the Jets for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
And sometimes it happens like that.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Sometimes we go to the first location, we go to
the first job, it doesn't work there. We go to
another job and we're happy ever after. But for whatever reason,
it didn't work out. But he got a chance to
go to Seattle. Pete gets relieved of his duty, piece
goes to Las Vegas, and you know, he wants Geno,
a quarterback that he's familiar with, a system, that he's
familiar with. But I was surprised that, you know, I
(44:20):
agree with you based on what I saw just my
eye test. It's hard for me to believe that your
door is a fifth round pick based on what he's
done just those two years.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
If you want a.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Different discount what he did at Jackson State, fine you shouldn't,
but I get it.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Well, that's that level of competition X, Y and Z.
I get all that.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
But based on just what he did in college at
see you, that's probably at the latest the third round pick.
I ain't say you got to take him top five.
I ain't say, okay, you say not. There's some things
that you don't see, the significant upside, the high the
vauarded ceiling. Okay, but it's hard for me to see
(45:01):
a scenario that he's not at least a third round
pick based on what he had done those two years
at SeeU. But now he gets his opportunity and we'll
see what he what he made the most of the
situation that he had Sunday. Let's see if he can
just improve on that and get better and better and
then hopefully, you know, hey, this offseason he gets an
opportunity to go work.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
And he can.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Better, better, better, batter, more familiar with the system. He
got a whole off season to work. I think he
can do something really really good.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Absolutely. Hey, matter of fact, I just thought about another scenario.
What happened boy, that that boy over there with that
stone his helmet? You know, come on, come on down
there to Cleveland man.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Who started? Oh oh pick?
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, yeah, Hey listen, all you needed one?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
All you needed one? Good dog? Now? Oh yeah? For sure?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Hey, chat what y'all think you know? And I'm a
Bengo fan, but I always want what's best for Pick.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Huh for sure?
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Get exactly what he wrong? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:09):
All right, but anyway, Oh, Joe Jamar Chase to apologize
today for spitting at Steeler's defensive back Jalen spending on
Stealer's defensive back Jalen Ramsey on ig he posted to
my team, fans, the Bengals organization, the Steelers organization, in
the NFL community. Please No, I'm speaking from my heart
when I say I take full responsibility for my actions
(46:31):
last Sunday's game at Pittsburgh. What I did was wrong.
The circumstances don't matter. My passion for the game is
no excuse. There's zero place in the sport or in
life for this level of disrespect. I want to personally
apologize to everyone within the Pittsburgh Steeler organization. I let
my emotions in the moment get the better of me,
and I can only hope and trust you know, you
(46:52):
know none of it represents who I am, not as
a competitor, not as a teammate or a person. I
want to apologize to my coaches, team in the organization
for not meeting my own standard as a leader of
this team. This has been one tough season with some
incredibly hard losses. We've all been frustrated. But in ten
instead of stepping up with calm, class and leadership, I
(47:13):
let you down. My having to sit out yesterday gave
make my actions even more inexcusable. I won't let it
happen again. Finally, I want to apologize to my fans.
I do not take anyone who wears the jersey for granted.
I take my position as a role model. I do
not take my position as a role model, likely as
someone who strives to lead with character and authenticity. I
(47:34):
should have taken a media accountability for what happened. I
am committed to earning back your respect, not with just words,
but with my actions day after day, on and off
the Field. I promise to keep learning from this and
set higher standards for myself moving forward with respect.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Jamar Chase, I like it. I just wish, Oh Joe,
I like it.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Too, But I wish he'd personally said Jalen Ramsey, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Even if he didn say that, he might not have
said that publicly in that letter. I like that. That
was very tasteful. That was very tasteful what happened in
that situation when totally was totally uncharacteristic of who that
individual is. Emotions got the best of him. Yes, I
guarantee you this. I guarantee you this. I already I
talked to Chase too. Now. I talked to him one
time and I let it go. Listen, young bull, take
(48:22):
your punishment, say say you're sorries, get your policies out
the way, and come back even better. Lock in and
focus and do what you need to do. I guarantee
you he called Jaylen Ramsey. I guarantee you. I guarantee
he called him personally and apologized to him, because if
he did it after this came out, I guarantee you
Ramsey would have said something about it. I guarantee you would.
(48:45):
But I know he did. I know he I know it.
I can feel it. I can feel it.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I just know he did.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Because that's the type of that's the type of duty is.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Oh Joe, But you put all of these other people
in there. Why not put Ramsey in there?
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Because he did it on his own? Man, the man
on the phone, A bro, listen, man.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
It's hard, Oho, when you do it like that. It's
hard because the person that you disrespected the most, you
didn't even mention him publicly. You talked about you talked
about Cincinnati, you talked about the fans, you talk about
the Steelers organization, and the guy that you actually did
that too, he doesn't get them.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
I get what you said, maybe behind the scenes. But oh,
jo he put this in a letter, he put this.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
On a post.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
And I commend you, Chase, I commend you, kudos. It
was a mistake. You let your emotions get the best
of you. When emotions are high, logic is low. And
you said some things and we saw it in real time.
I don't think he thought that that the cameras caught it.
But Chase, it's hard now, Bro, to do anything without
it being teped. The revolution will always be televised moving forward.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
But that's all. That's all.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Look, and I don't want a nitpick because I believe
sincerely and genuinely. But there's a there's an art to
apologize it, Ojo, in order to get the full to
in order to have the full effect of an apology.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Now, change behavior is the greatest apology.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Go on, now, I heard you say, change behavior. Now
what what I do want? And I hope Chase see this.
Still be yourself. Don't change who you're on that field.
Do not lose the fucking edge that makes you you.
I understand the mistake you made. I understand.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Don't over the edge.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Don't don't do that, don't go overboard, but do not
lose the edge and what makes you special. Because now
you think you have to conduct yourself like a goddamn
choir boy, That's not what the fuck we finished. I'm sorry,
that's not what we finish. Do absolutely not. You continue
to remain that same dog, that same edge, that same
same confidence that you carry when that goddamn one, I
(50:46):
know you got that seat on your chest. But don't don't,
don't lose what makes you special. Continue to play with
that same edge. You made a mistake, you apologize for it.
I'm sure you talked to Ramsey and apologize to him,
even though Unk and others might want to to be publicly.
You know that that apology to be public to him.
But this is I.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Said, I said this, and I believe and I believe
that at the time, I said, he's gonna apologize because
he's gonna see what we saw, what the world saw.
Now he can hide a round and say, well, you know,
because I don't think he thought nobody saw it, though
Joe he didn't.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
And I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Like I said, when emotion is I logic is low.
But all I'm saying, look, and I know Chad, I
might be nitpicking, but I just wish he would have
mentioned Rambley, ram Ramp, Jalen and to Jalen, Ramsey and
his family. I would like to personally apologize to you.
And maybe you're right. Maybe he's done that off camera
and I'm cool and after this, after we address this tonight,
(51:43):
I'm done. I'm done with I won't have anything else
to say about it. But I'm just said I just
think I just think for me an apology I got,
at least I gotta at least at least apologize to
the party that I offended.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
I understand organizations.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
I understand it in a fil I understand the Bengals,
I understand the NFL. I understand the Steelers organization. I
understand the fans. But the guy that this act happened too.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
Yeah, but dudes ain't worried about that?
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (52:10):
I mean you're thinking as in your position. We talk,
we talk about players. Players ain't worry about Oh, you
need to apologize to me public not ain't excuse me,
the boys ain't worry about that. Hey, man, ain't bro
I'm telling you. I'm telling you how they think. They
ain't worry about No, no public apology. Man brought hit
my line. He apologized. Hey man, listen, we squashed it.
I'm gonna see you when we played when we play
(52:31):
all in three more weeks. Case close.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Oh, let me ask you this. You do real apology.
It's not for the individual. It's for you.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
That's personal.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
It's not the apology because the actor is already done.
You just need to You need to apologize so you
can move forward. I guarantee, like I said, I'm gonna
take you at your word that he possibly.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
I know he did.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
I know he did. I promise you, I'm telling you did.
But I'm just saying knowing knowing Ramsey hold on, not
knowing Ramsey too, you know, just knowing how, knowing how
these boys think, knowing how they act, and they ain't
worry about oh he apologized me. They don't care nothing
about that. Man, young boy man hit my line.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Hey, bro, listen, I don't know. There are certain things
that I could. I could. I mean, I think there's
certain things that you don't have to do.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
But something as disrespectful as that, and we started to
see an escalation of this, not just at the professional level, but.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
We saw that college the other night too.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
I'm like, when did Like I said, maybe it was
the Maybe this happened a lot when we played and
the cameras wasn't there to catch it.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Maybe that's what happened on Joe. Maybe that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
But they listen, they not. They built different. They ain't
worry about that. You know, if there was an issue,
there's a problem, and they handled they ben it's a
little different. They ain't worry about no, you know, saying
it publicly and all that.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Well, then Why do he apologize then, if he wasn't
worried about noning that, why do you apologize I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
I'm saying you speaking on it, having him not mentioning
Ramsey's name when Ramsey probably didn't worry about no goddamn letter.
When I'm telling you, buddy probably hit him, hit his line.
I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
But I'm just saying, I mean, it's hard to have
a public apology when the party that was offended doesn't
get mentioned.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
We can move on, We're gonna need agriss, We're gonna
agree to disagree on that one.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying, O Joe.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I'm not trying to belabor the point, but I'm saying
the offended party didn't get mentioned. He mentioned the the
party's team that they played for, they mentioned the league
that they played in, he mentioned the team, he mentioned
his fans around the NFL, But the party that was
offended doesn't get mentioned.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
That's the That's the only thing I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
In chance, maybe i'm being maybe maybe maybe I'm being
a little extra.
Speaker 3 (54:44):
Yeah, maybe I'm being a little bit a little bit,
a little bit, a little bit, Hey, when they play again?
When they play again?
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Uh, when did they play again?
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Two weeks? Oh they played thirst, they play Thanksgiving. No,
they played the rain Steelers again. They just played the.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Steelers, right, They're done.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
Oh that's it.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Okay, yeah, yeah, so we go. Hey, Chase, like I said,
I had a few interactions with your bro. Have the
emotional respect. Motion's got the best of you. Hey, just
move forward. Learn from this mistake, don't let it happen again.
Keep your head up, chest out, keep moving forward.
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