Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocino” Johnson & Johnny Manziel react to Georgia’s stunning loss to Alabama, James Franklin & Penn State can’t win big game vs Oregon, is Texas A&M a real CFB Playoff contender?
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BYU is currently beating the number twenty five cougars BYU
currently ahead of Colorado twenty four to twenty one. We'll
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see where brain holl We'll talk to you about that
game as soon as it's over. It was a great
day for college football today. Every game was closed, Oh
Miss LSU was decided by less than a touchdown. Alabama,
Georgia less than a touchdown, Texas A and M and
Auburn less than a touchdown, Indiana less than a touchdown.
All the games that we were expecting to be close
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they were close. Oregon and Penn State went in the
two overtimes and again, as usual, Penn State will find
a way to lose a game, and you want James
Franklin to find a way to win, but they didn't.
The number seven we're gonna start with this game, guys.
The number seventeen Alabama Crimson Tide upsets number five Georgia
in Athens between the hedges. Crimson Tide have now won
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three straight over the Bulldogs, ten of the last eleven.
Hindsight twenty twenty do you agree with Kirby Smart not
kicking the field goal?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Johnny?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Going forward on fourth and one at the ten yard
line early in the fourth They got stopped and really
never got back in positioned again. Drop the touchdown? Guy
had a wide open touchdown. He dropped it. Replay repaid
Ryan Williams debt because he dropped one early in the
ball game. What do you think, Johnny? What's your uh?
(04:11):
Kirby Smart had done given that situation.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
It's out of their character to rush to go hurry up.
That's not what they do. The play was close on
third down to where maybe it could get reviewed. Why
not take your time? Let them see if they're gonna
send it to the booth, get a good play that
you want in.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Why are you rushing to go do what we did
at A and M and.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Go hurry up? You don't do that. That's not your
bread and butter. You don't have the right personnel on
the field. But you think it's just a yard and
you're gonna sneak this little inside zone, play outside, don't
play in and it's gonna be it's it's all cool,
We'll be fine. We'll man it up, hat on hat
and get it in. What are we doing? It's so
it's such a big part of the game to think
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you're just gonna slip slide one in and game against Alabama.
So to me, I'm furious. I'm sitting there before the game,
I'm like, who do I like in this game? Georgia
Alabama has shown me nothing?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Nothing, mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Second half they're down. I'll take them at plus seven
five thousand on the dogs again.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Yeah, Ay and Johnny, I think, especially from from a
coaching standpoint, in the situation like that, even though it's
not something that you normally do, because of the circumstance
in the situation in the team that you're playing.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You want you want to.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Do everything you can, you know, to believe in your
team and hope and they can do get that, get that,
get that fourth and one to give yourself some type
of advantage. If anything, I would have got the points.
You take the points in the situation.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
On the play sheet during the week, during your practice,
you got a section there that says third and fourth
and one.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
You got plays that you like in there. You know,
let's call one of those plays.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Maybe a roll out the flat ask if you're gonna
do something, but you don't speed up your offense and
do something that's.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Completely speed up to run, to run, run the ball
and then and then right.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Man, my dog did give him a little stiff arm
and kind of tried to make something shake. He tried,
He gave everything he got. But where's our five star
running back? Why you hurry up the duds in there?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
The block? And it's not his fault. This is coaching.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You got a guy who ran the ball twelve times
for one hundred and nineteen yards and a touchdown. You
had another guy had the ball one care for forty
three yards. So that's not an excuse me. What we're
gonna do. We're gonna be smart. You know what we're
gonna do. We're gonna out smart ourselves. We're gonna run
harry up with our backup to the backup running back
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and see if we can catch Alabama off guard. Because see,
that's when you try to like want to pretend how
smart you are, because what you do ain't. No man, Kirby,
what made you decide to go hurry up in that situation?
Now they're asking the same thing, guys in the in
the press room, Kirby, why would you go hurry up
in that situation?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
If you why not call the time out? You ever
had the lead? Why not take the car? Get it?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Why not your five start running back? There are a
million things you could have done.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You took them.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You took the million than one, so a million things
that we could have done. O Joe, let's take the
one thing we shouldn't do.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Tada.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And you wonder why Alabama has lost more than they won.
Excuse me, Georgia has lost more to Alabama than they've won.
And a lot of times they've had the better of
the teams, they've had the better of the teams. They
should have beat Georgia. They should have beat the Alabama
several times in the SEC Championships. One time they have
Mark Rick. I don't know why they throw the ball
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to the flat when they know they don't have any timeouts.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
If there's less than ten seconds on the clock.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
We see them lose when they got this superior team,
they got all this talent. Now, they did turn around
and beat Alabama in the National Championship game, but Jamison
Williams blew out his knee in that game. Metchi had
blew out his knee and knee in the SEC Championship game.
But a lot of times this has been un inexcusable
for Georgia to lose as many times as they lost
(08:23):
to Alabama.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And it really doesn't matter where they are.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It could be in Tuscaloosa, it can be between the
Hedges and Athens. It could be at the Georgia Dome,
now the Mercedes Benz.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Don't It does not matter. I just don't understand that.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
This drop is inexcusable on the d ball.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
That is an unbelievable, dialed up in the dirt play,
unbelievable throw. It's picture perfect all the way down to
catching the.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Football well Yeah, he took his eyes.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
What do you think Williams would, right, Willives Ryan Williams
had one.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Just just.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
He's struggling this year. He's struggling this year. Yeah, he's
dropped a lot. He's dropped a lot of plays. Remember
Florida State, how many he dropped Ocho, Yes, sir, he
dropped a touchdown against Wisconsin. I don't know, maybe the
celebrity of the fact, but I don't know if it's
lack of concentration. But he's not He doesn't look like
the guy that we saw the first seven eight games
(09:20):
last year.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
This year, yeah, oh, Joe, I got a question for
you both.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
You guys go into games, you go through spells as
a receiver where.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
You maybe have some drops you're not seeing. What is
what is the process for you guys?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I see guys go out to practice drug machine wake.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Out there, Yes, get your field, get your flow back.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
But for you guys, I want to hear, I'm curious
that's doing that situation.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Yeah, and for me when I got the yips like that,
especially in the game where I dropped two maybe three balls,
it doesn't matter how much jug Machine I do. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
it's nothing like in game. In games that you I
need to touch the ball. I need to feel the
ball early in the game. And my coaches already know
that ahead of time. Don't give me a route, don't
(10:08):
give me a slant or a curl. Throw me a
smoke screen, throw me a bubble, throw me something quick
so I can get my confidence back. Once your confidence
is shot after dropping two or three balls, it sticks
with you, Johnny, it sticks with you, UNKI, you know
how that feeling is. Just let me touch it real quick,
just to get myself activated.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
In back.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
For me, I wanted the passes that I dropped, I
go through the same route. So if I was dropping
an out route, I would go through that motion and
have the court and catch it on the jugs. I'm
not just standing there like this, so I'm going through
the motion or I'm gonna have the quarterback to throw
me the ball that I struggle with in the game.
So if it was a slant and must of the time,
(10:51):
I struggled on the left hand side, So I'm lining
up on the left and catching a slant like this,
so I struggle with that. So that's what I would
work with. If I struggled with the basic cross. If
I wasn't catching. Even if I caught the ball Ojo
and Johnny and I didn't catch it clean, I consider
that a job because now I'm bottling it. Had a
guy been there, I would have dropped it because he
(11:13):
hit me. Not the ball could have get popped up,
could have gotten popped up in the air, or it
could have hit the dirt. So any time I didn't
catch it clean, I worked on that. But a spell
might be on a game.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
No, I wasn't going no struggling this game, struggling that
game clean for two more games, struggle.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
He wasn't nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
So I just think the thing is, Ojo.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
He when you have a lot of success, and he
had a lot of success last year, I think yes.
And sometimes we start to read the press clippings and
we start to believe and we don't. I don't know
if we were putting the work the same work in
but you can't drop the that's routine because on the
road against the number three team in the country, that
is a ginormous play, Ojo.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
We've taken the crowd completely out of it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Now they did go down and score, but you want
to hush a crowd of our style crowd.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Big play plays, and man, we've seen him do it
last year.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
We've seen him do it last year.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Most against big teams in big games, so we know
he's capable of doing it all.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They got to do George the last year. Yeah, he
caught the one and he stopped.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
S s pereauight and came back. Yes, yes, they said,
oh Ryan got to do just locked back in, lock
back in, remember, remember you remember how you That's a
good thing.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Though, too, because he can't come out this year, no
matter what. So he gets a year no matter what.
So that's okay. Let him develop, let him go through this,
let him have his He canna struggle to get to
a thousand yards, he guess he got. You gotta struggle
unless he really pops off in the back half of
the season for a thousand. For him to come out
this year after the season he had last year and
had seven eight hundred yards will be a disappointment.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
That's a hungry dude in the offseason.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah yeah, but those other guys kind of stepped up
in his in his absence. But I was surprised. I
like Horton Brooks had a big play, had some big plays.
But I was surprised that Georgia. How how poorly Georgia
started the game. You know they turn I think they
had a turnover early the filings. They got the ball,
(13:14):
they turned it over. Georgia normally comes out. Look, this
is not the same Georgia teams that was winning national
championships with all those five star defensive linemen that would go.
You know, they had five guys go in the first round,
and they got an offensive lineman going in the first round,
and you got a James Cook and you got this
one in that one. They don't have that level of talent.
(13:35):
They talented now, don't get wrong. So I don't want
people to say.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I don't know right now if I'm picking anybody over
Hio skill they feel, do we think they got enough offensively?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You like stocked in, You like stocking that.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Much that that's good throat some times? Third down thirty nine,
where he stepped up and ripped some balls. And that's
what I look for throughout the night. And in a
game big plays, you need something. You're backed up and
you step up with confidence and you really let one
come out of your hand and let it spind. You
called it kind of got banged around on third and nine. Like,
(14:18):
that's a good throw, a confident throw. That's one that
gets a good defense, a good team you build on.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
So when you see stuff like that, is it consistent enough?
That's why you're making that face? Is it consistent enough?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Right?
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Not?
Speaker 5 (14:32):
That's but you grow as the season goes on. You
learn from this. You go back and watch the tape.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Look, they got their work cut out for them.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, Vanderbilt, this is not your father's and grandfather's Vanderbilt.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I went to dinner with Diego Pavia the night they hungry.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Guess what I'm going to tuscle loose Alabama on Saturday
and I'm on the Vandy sideline.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Oh yeah, because Alabama.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Alabama said, we owe y'all after what y'all did does
last year. We owe y'all.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Big on is what the boys are saying.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Vanderbilt.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Uh so, Georgia, Alabama's uh slate Vanderbilt, Missouri and Tennessee.
You remember Tennessee beat them last year. If Vanderbilt beat
them last year, it was those type of games that
ended up keeping them out.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Although they were playing well at the end. That ended
up keeping them.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Out of the college football playoff as they extended, you know,
added more teams to the playoffs, so it's gonna be interested.
I don't know, guys, I don't know. Let me know
what you think, Johnny Man that Kaitlyn the board lost
this game. Boy, they already calling for his head. Yeah,
they're already calling for his head. Game like this some time,
(15:48):
I believe buying some time.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Yeah, two weeks ago, we ago, using lottery money.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, yeah, they still might. They got another lot of right.
I don't know if anybody wasn't mega millions, but they
still they still, they still with it, and people like
well Alabama, Look, I think Texas A and M just
for for for sake, Texas A and M has twenty
point four billion in endowment money.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Alabama has two point six billion. Huh. Florida, Florida. That's
what we was talking about, Florida. Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And what's the guy's name, Billy Napier buying him out
versus what Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
A and M did with Jimbo Jimbo.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
You see the difference, twenty point four billion in endowment
and two point six billion in endowment so this notion
at Florida.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, no, no, no, no. Texas money is different, different Florida money.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
You gotta look under the couch, cushes and shit.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
But hey, hey, joe a think about it.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
They gave that man eighty billion. They say, you know
whatty two eight eighty two eighty.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
We'd give you eighty two to go away and you
go get another job.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You still get to keep the eighty two. Yeah, Like,
just think again.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
A lot of times, a lot of like NFL, what
they'll do. They'll like, if you get another job, or
you become a coordinator, you become an analyst. They deduct that, right,
Jason and Mson, No, we don't even care.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Jim Offisher wake up every day and look out on
the porch and smoke a joint, like damn, thank you, Aggy.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, that's a nice questions from Maggie department.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
But we'll get there one day somehow.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
The number six Oregon Ducks goes in to Beaver Stadium,
shocks the number three Penn State and nit in the
lines by the score of thirty to twenty four.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
In double overtime.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
James Franklin coaching in the twelfth season at Penn State
is now four and twenty one against top ten opponents,
four and twenty he won. I tweeted, is he ever
gonna win a big, meaningful game when he went to
the college football players? All I know is that he's
four and twenty one. Now, y'all think is that acceptable?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Now? Is that now?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
All I know is when I grew up, grew up,
Penn State was a big thing.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
They they Joe Pop rested soul. They won.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, and more time than not, he won games like that.
Go back and look at that eighty seven National championship
game against Miami. They had no business winning that game.
You look at what Miami had as far as is
Tusta Verde and Jerome Brown and Danny Stubbs and all
those guys. Yeah, Penn State had no business whatsoever winning
that game. And Penn State was known to win games
(18:46):
like that. I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think
they beat Georgia one year for the National championship, or
they kept Georgia from winning the national championship.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I'm just shocked that it.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Somehow he will find a way to lose to Ohio State.
He'll find a way somehow, Johnny to lose a game,
You're like, Okay, they're at home, they're gonna win this way. Oh,
they got this one in the bag and he'll if
it up.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
I mean they were. They were close all games, Johnny
and Uncle. It was a very good game, a very
defensive game. Obviously, I don't I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
As to we're all the stars.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
There's always every every team always, especially like Penn State
is a star. Nobody stood out. Nobody stood out. I
think everyone's somewhat even. And that's what I was looking for.
I was looking for one player, one or two players
that stand out and make a difference in that game.
And nobody stood out to me. So at that point,
it all comes down to the coaching. It all comes
down to the decision make it in an important situation
(19:47):
on who makes the fewest mistakes that was gonna win
that game.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I think I think impressed that quarter.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Look exactly, you look at number one five, one seven,
two touchdowns and the pick you go to their running back,
the rush game leading rusher twelve carries fifty four yards.
You got their leading receiver four catches forty eight yards.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Enough on that side of the ball that ain't going
to get you a win.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
It really isn't We're talking about fifteen being a guy.
Can he go to the league? Is he the best
quarterback in his class? Is the guy Joe flashes last year?
You don't want to step up and be that guy
in that situation? Man, one, ain't it? You're supposed to
have that in a quarter in college?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
A whole game and double overtime, thank you?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
So you get extra possessions and overtime that you played
a game in two extra possessions and you had one
hundred and thirty seven yards passing.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So you're at.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Home against Oregon and I'm supposed to believe that you're
a top pick.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I don't know. I don't think I'll do.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Here's what I'm thinking about it as well, though, Let's
look back to the last year Oregon played Ohio State
early on, great game, comes down, and then you look
what happens in the playoffs. Completely different thing. So I
respect James Franklin. I like him as a coach, as
a human being, as a program leader. I understand in
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big situations four in twenty one, there's something going on
there where you get nervous, or you tighten up or
get a little what whatever it is? Bourn twenty one
in big games? Come on, it darts to the wall blindfolded,
hit more four than twenty one? What are we talking about?
(21:37):
But at the end of the day, you can look
at this as we played the number six team in
the country really tough, and if we see him again,
come on, it's all about perspective. And I didn't have
handled this loss.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
But here's the thing you had agreed. See, I didn't think.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I didn't think Orgon was gonna beat Ohio State. They
lost on a two one conversion of Ohio State at Oregon.
What the hell you think were you? That was gonna
happen if you meet on a neutral site.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
What happened? Yeah, the doors blowed off.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
If Oregon meet Penn State on the neutral site again,
if that's fortunate enough to happen, doors blown off because
they still got Penn State.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I'm excuse me.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
They still got Ohio State, they still got Michigan on schedule.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So are we sure they already got one loss early
in the season? Are we sure?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Are we sure Penn State when it's all saying that
it's gonna be there, Johnny.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
You look next week, you say l a bo bo
Northwestern b Iowa.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Easy, Okay, maybe I'll give you.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Oh they lose when they're gonna lose one of them, Johnny,
that's Penn State, that jant.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Frankly, you're gonna lose one of them.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
And for me, I ain't as confident as you sound
in Ohio State's quarterback play. They're good as a team.
As a unit, you rely on your d you got
the receivers, you got the pieces.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I ain't. I ain't as uh.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I ain't as confident in them as uh as most
people are. And then look you got Indiana, Michigan State, Nebraska, Rutgers, Nebraska.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I mean, what do they play Nebraska at home?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, they probably went down.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
So I mean, you go through it.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
You have a loss of Ohio State, you run the
rest of the table, you have two losses, and you're
Penn State.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
You're at three right now, you end up in the
top twelve, for sure, for sure, you.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Might be right.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
The question is what does what does Ohio State look
like when it's all said and done? How many losses
does Oregon have when it's all said and done.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Let's just say, for the sake of argument Oregon runs
the table. Uh does Oregon play Ohio State in the
regular season or they can only playing the championship game.
They're getting ready to do away with champion game. Okay,
let's just say everybody is undefeated. I don't believe they take.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Illinois.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Whoa Illinois not a cake wall. Okay, that's gonna be
a good game.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Give you that. That's a good game.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Minnesota, Wisconsin, penn State, Purdue, U C l A, Rutgers, Michigan.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
The end the season, they don't lose more than two,
they're in.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
True right, that game, that Michigan game is gonna be tough.
I don't know what it is, Michigan, Michigan, I don't
It doesn't matter. They find a way to play the
scratch claw and dig out a win against Ohio State.
No matter how talented Ohio State is, Michigan somehow finds
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a way to win.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
When that's it's been there. We see it every year.
It happens.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, but I'm just surprised that Jane Franklin, think about
all the time, Johnny and Ojo that we've seen mission
Pennon State have a superior.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Team, only took lose Drew Aller.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Look, he might turn out to be one of the
greatest Penn State quarterback in the NFL, and that ain't
saying much because Fenn State, they had a whole lot
of great quarterbacks in the NFL. You go back to
Chuck Pasona, and you go back to Todd black Leg
and a Carry Collins, no difference. Carry Collins might be
the best, but he does not impress me. As my
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grandmother used to say, he doesn't ras my berry. I
get I get nothing. I get nothing, I get nothing.
I get nothing out of that. I really don't. I'm
looking at him, BROB like, bro what are we doing?
And people have him rated really high? Johnny, am I
missing something?
Speaker 6 (25:54):
I mean that when it comes to the quarterback position,
the quarterbacks are rated when there's not much else out there.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
We've been talking about the quarterback play, even our boy Castlelanas,
who we were so hype about last week.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
I put some money on Florida State on Friday night.
That ain't at I was tough. They're sick.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
At the drawing board, yeah they I think Florida State
might have been feeling themselves a little too much.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
But you see what happens. What happened on Joe when
expectations come. You see, when they played Atlabama, they didn't
have no expectations, right nobody. Now all of a sudden,
they're undefeated there on the road, and now you have
some expectations. Could Florida State make the you know, the
college football playoffs? Now you start to have expectations. No
one had expectations from Florida State until they did what
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they did to Alabama, and they now all of a sudden,
damn to that, right man. Look, I don't get it,
Like I said, Penn State four and twenty one twenty
with Penn State is four and twenty one against top
ten opponents.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And it's not like they haven't been ranked in the
top ten. Their damn cell.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
So it's not like all of a sudden that that's
a top ten opponent and we're unranked or we're in
you know, we're twenty, we're twenty five.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Penn State a lot of time is ranked in the
top ten. Of them, damn their damn cell.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Look, maybe they're afraid they can't fight anybody else in
Jane Franklin, but I'm not so sure that he would
have been able to be at any other institution, this loan,
with the pedigree that an institution has as long as
Penn State. I'm shocked. I am absolutely shocked that he's
been able to be there this loan. You're not gonna
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be at Alabama, You're not gonna be at Georgia, You're
not gonna be at any of the Ohio State with that,
No sir, no way, no way. Know how four and
twenty one and you lose it the Ohio State, damn
every basically every year. How many times to be the
Ohio State since he's been there once.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I think you get it.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
You get a little bit, a little bit more leency
with understanding that you are playing in superior school, you
get you get a little bit if you can soap
somehow get a win.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yes, you understand that Ohio State has the better players.
Here's a thing.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
You get into the playoffs. They get into the playoffs
and go look good and be competitive with it.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
That's the thing they keep getting wiggling their way in
just good enough, bare minimum type stuff. So when you
do that and you look back at the season as
somebody who's overseeing that whole program, you're like, you know what,
you don't forget about that loss or at Ohio State,
you don't forget about you forget about that.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Like, oh we went to the playoff.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
A couple of players go here, our way, here and
there like we're good. You look at that perspective, but
in reality, when you lay it out, you lay it
for what it is. If you're a top program.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, oh how many times? I think the biggest thing
is this is where you measure a coach. How many
times does he win a game he's not supposed to win?
See you look at Nick Saban and all the times
he beat Georgia when he wasn't supposed to, or he
beat in LSU when he wasn't supposed to.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Or he beat no or he beat these teams.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
How many times will we going to a game and
we say, man, Penn State ain't got no chance of
winning this game, and.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
They win it. They do. Why don't you If it's
a fifty to fifty ball game, they lose.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So if we're looking at it and we're saying, okay,
this is a game, I want to see somebody with
Coach Belichick. Coach Belichick, a lot of times he's winning
games like he wasn't supposed to beat the Greatest Show Turf.
He wasn't supposed to beat the Legion the Boom. He
was not supposed to go on the road, and and
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and and beat Patrick Mahomes. You have to win in
order to put to get the credit that you deserve.
You're gonna have to win games.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
You know, Atlanta, That's how you became Johnny.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
If you go to Alabama. If you go into Alabama
and you lose, you're not Johnny Football.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
You won a game that you weren't supposed to win.
Nobody gave you a chance, y'all was what two three?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But Uncle Johnny.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
The funny thing about it is, obviously sometimes coach is
supposed to win games that they shouldn't win. You get
the recognition, but it's hard to win games. You don't
have the personnel. It's hard if they take you the
baker cake, but you ain't got no goddamn no, no mix.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
You gotta understand what I'm saying, make something, make something palatable.
You know what I mean? But I get I'll jo
you're right, But that's the main it is winning.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Let me ask your question, who had the most talent
the Greatest show on turf coach Belichick's Patriots. Yes, a
game you're not supposed to win, your undermantter, what there
ain't no excuses Giants versus the Patriots. One team is
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eighteen and oh one team got some argue. The greatest
receiver ever, the greatest quarterback ever, the greatest head coach ever.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah tu the Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
So sometimes you win games when you're undermand that's oh joe,
If all I do is win when I got the best.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Team, how good a damn coach? Ever? Yeah? Right, Jaye Franklin.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
At some point in times, you're gonna have to win,
to win games that nobody doesn't expect you. And now
you're at home, you're the number three ceeds. People were
expecting you to beat the organ because you're the high
ranked team, and you home and somehow you find more
more times than not. It so based on this, in
twenty five games against the top ten opponent, more times
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than not, triple the times, quadruple the times he found
ways to win lose as opposed to winning.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
And that's a problem. That is a problem.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
As we got number nine Texas A and M Johnny's Albamada.
Number nine Texas A and M holds off the Auburn Tigers.
I don't know how you get two names. You get
a war Eagle and your Tiger. But anyway, improved to
four and oh since the first time since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Auburn finished the game.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
All of thirteen on third down conversion and had just
one hundred and seventy seven total yards against A and M.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
A and M had four hundred and fourteen.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Marcel Reid not turned the ball over against Texas, alling
them had had committed thirteen penalties, the final score would
have been a lot worse.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Johnny, that's your team. What'd you like about what you
saw from listen?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I talked to him every night after the games.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
And as you're going into games like this, and you're
getting into SEC play and you're playing a good team
like Auburn, you have to find ways throughout the season
to go out and get a win, whether it's pretty,
whether it's ugly, whether you have some penalties.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
But look at it as a whole.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Fifteen to twenty two at seven incompletions, doesn't throw a
Tuddy two hundred and seven yards passing, and for him,
he rushed for minus twenty three yards for a guy
who uses his legs.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
That's an off night for him.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Look, Le'Veon Moss twenty one carries one hundred and thirty nine.
I've talked to him every week. What I've told him
is listen, as good as that feels, ass much as
you want to go out and celebrate, learn for me, man,
learn from me, and buckle down.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
We were in a place that we ain't been in
in ten years, nine years.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, grind it.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Go back this week, go harder, take this, run with
it and go get better. Use the film, use the stuff,
go to practice, take everything you can. The party gonna
be there, and the party gonna be better whenever you
get to the SEC championship game, whenever you keep winning,
whenever you keep stacking good days, good weeks. So I'm
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in his ear every week in the most positive of ways.
We're going to enjoy this for a couple of seconds
right now because it feels good, and you should enjoy
it because it is a good team win. But at
the end of the day, everybody in the country is
waiting on A and M to be A and M
of the past. The way you stick out and be
legendary is to go and do what hasn't been done.
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He wants to go be up there with me at Texas.
A and M.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Keep winning, keep doing your thing, keep being a leader.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
That's how you get a stay, That's how you get
a statue, that's how you get your name on the building.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
That's what you want. So right now, so far, so good.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Everybody's waiting on the aggies to aggie and there's a
couple of people they can keep that in perspective and
keep it rolling.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Look A and M. Defense was coming.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I mean, twenty four rushes fifty two yards eighteen of
thirty three, you had thirty three pass attempts and you
only had one hundred and twenty five yards less. That's
Suppo're supposed to have one hundred twenty five yard passes
and three drives.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Them boys playing good defense, that real good defense. Most
of the time you think about college football too on Johnny.
Defense is the part where they really don't play very well.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
It's hard because all these spread offenses and all this motion,
this zone read stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
If you see, if it's infiltrated.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
The NFL, NFL sit their personnel down there to study Baylor,
to study these la to study these open offenses. You
see a lot more of that now college offense into
the NFL as opposed to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
In college, ain't nobody dot in the eye. You find
very few backs.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Everyone basically the only team that really gets in the
eye if you got uh, Derrick Henry and Jonathan Taylor, Damn,
everybody else is on the offset because very few, very
few quarterbacks are under center. Now, Johnny, a lot of
these guys getting to college ojo and they have never
ever taken a snap under center the center. Yeah, some
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guys get to the NFL and they ain't taking a
snap under center center. Yeah, the first time they take
a snap on the center that THEYMNT pro date look
at Johnny.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Johnny raised his head like, we have maybe.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Six snaps in two years where we went under center.
I got to the NFL, I'm like, what the fuck
is this?
Speaker 2 (36:46):
You feeling good about your aging? You think they can
make it all the way down to Georgia.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
They have the pieces they need, they got if they can,
if they can come together as a band of brothers
and they can look at it and say, you.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Know this defense, we stout offense.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
What we did versus Notre Dame, we can do versus
anybody in the country, but it takes a special unit.
Not ones buying into the hype, not ones getting lackadaisical,
not ones taking a week off in practice.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Like Yo, we play somebody that we should beat this week.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Somebody can come up and catch you, and that one
game changes your whole trajectory. So are the pieces there
for A and M Are they a contender without a doubt?
They played well enough against teams that are solid to
prove that. But it takes consistency and it takes them
coming every week with your lunch failed. You got to
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come and bring in. That's just what it comes down to.
So if you want it, it's there. You got the
pieces now or whatever?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Sure, but they got the do you got do you
guys got Texas or Oklahoma on your schedule on the road.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
There's no love laws between you. And last year was
a brutal one. Last year was tough in our own
house bringing the rivalry back. We ain't sniff a chance
to win that game last year.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, y'all tried to block Texas from coming to the SEC.
What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
It was all good when we wanted to go, But
when they want to go where we had about it.
There's the thing, there's some things that go on at
A and M that you got to look at and
kind of be like, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
But yeah, that just is what it is.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Everybody wants their cake and to eat it too, and
to keep them out of something that's been really great
for us. But like listen, if twenty twelve didn't go
the way that it went for us, our SEC trajectory
could be way, way different. When we were coming into
the SEC, all we heard was you boys need to
get ready. You're gonna get smacked. This is different than
what you're used to. This ain't Iowa State, This ain't
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Kansas State. Now, we set ourselves on a good path
with twenty twelve and twenty thirteen, but then there's a
big role there for eight nine years where we really
haven't had a lot of success out kind of nineteen
or twenty twenty. Kellen Monds last year and it was
the COVID year and we went to the Orange Bowl,
lost one game. We haven't really had a lot of success.
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So for us, this team has the chance to do
what hasn't been done at Texas A and M in
a long time, and for us in the type of
program we are, if you're being honest, double digit wins
for us are something that are truly programmed changing. But
we're in the second year of ELKO. We go through
the buyout, we go through the jokes. We are the
butt of the joke for years. Oh you pay Jimbo this,
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he has to go, you pay him off.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
You have success.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
In the second year at ELKO, you really start to
build on something where that money now makes it worth it.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
When you paid Jimbo that kind of money, you got
to get to an SEC championship game, you got to
get into the college football player.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
It's just the way life, wo Joe. And you know, Johnny,
you understand this.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
You played there, know how devout and loyal that fan
base is, and you know how those big boosters are.
They gempted the well, they found some money in their
cushions to give Jimbo that that kind of money. I
ain't said the empty their pocket because they got deep pocket.
Their pockets go down to that. So yeah, they didn't
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have to dig too deep to find that. And so
the expectations, like you said, you keep winning these games,
and like you said, okay, you win double digits. But
at some point in time they look over there and
it's like, nah, were in the Big Boy Conference.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
We want to play thirteen years and you don't go
once unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
I couldn't get it done, can't get it done for
the nine years after thirteen years in at a conference
and you don't sniff it.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
So they're gonna have to They're gonna have to figure
this thing out. You believe they have the type of
team that can get there. It's I mean, this thing
is gonna really be tough. I mean, tax Us and
Oklahoma say they got something to say about it. Georgia
has an SEC law, but hey, they're like, hey, we
got something to say about it. Bama didn't have an
SEC loss yet, but they're they're probably they're probably six
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to seventeen. Tennessee Van the built they're six and seventeen.
That says, you know what, we think we got a
realistic chance of being down in acad.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Schedule though next week Mississippi State, then we played Florida.
We've already harped on Florida enough where they don't deserve
no air of time. Arkansas okay, but they got the
doors blowed up there, all right, LSU late and end
of the ten twenty five, all right, that's gonna be
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a good game.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Goole man Brian Kelly. You know Brian Kelly threw up
on him sel.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Okay, that's the one that sticks out.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Outside of that, then you got Missouri, and you got
South Carolina and you got Stamford, and then the end
of season you got you got Texas. So like four,
it looks as a schedule what the SEC could be right,
what your schedule could look like. I would say overall
that's pretty favorable. Yes, you have to go win some
good games against good teams.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
That's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
You're not playing in the Big Ten, you're not playing
in the Big twelve, you're not playing in the ACC.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Not Kat and Cake walks in conference.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
But if you look at who you can play versus
who you have on your schedule, I would say it
lines up really nice.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Where you guys got the game cartoon? Are they coming
to y'all? Are y'all going to them? Okay?
Speaker 5 (42:26):
And they beat us last year in the game that
we felt like we should win and they beat us bad.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, so that'd be that'd be a very interesting game.
Just we'll see what Johnny believes his team could be.
I know you're gonna be on board. Lord have mercy.
I could just imagine, I could just imagine take all.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
Give the whole thing away.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
But South Carolina weekend, those boys in that locker room,
from what I have coming in that game are going
to be more motivated than any team, any game in
the last fifteen years of text saying that I got
a real special freak coming for the Aggies November fifteen,
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fire program changing for us in my.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Opinion, you got Drake coming in.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Huh If you're working on the album? What're on? All
many Bahamas work on the album?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm just checking this checking guys.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Remember last week when Brian Kelly went on this rant
about reporters asking about his offense. Well, in the twenty
four to nineteen lost to Old Miss, the Tigers mustard
two of eleven on third downs and lack an effective
running game. They trudged sixty five yards on twenty one
non sack carries with a long of ten. Garrett nussmar
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once again had a bare mediocre game against top competition.
Nussmier managed less than two hundred yards on thirty four
pass attempts six yards and average per throw. Well, you
know what a let's not ask Brian Kelly about this
run game because you won you so now can we
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ask you about your run game now? Mister Kelly, Hey,
like you said, it was one game, okay, I would act,
but see, oho, what what's the what's the what's the model?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Ohoe? We never accept anything in a win.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Loss.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
We wasn't in a loss. So I'm to ask you now, yeah,
if this running game, is it acceptable?
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Coach Kelly? Because you know you you were celebrating. You
wanted to celebrate we won the game. The guys asked
you to say we won the game. Guys, we won
the game. Okay, Now now that you didn't win the game,
do I have your undivided attention now, Coach Kelly, I'd
like to ask you about your running game because last
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week you didn't want to talk about it, because you
want can we talk about it now?
Speaker 2 (44:56):
What would you like to say about your running game?
Speaker 5 (44:57):
What?
Speaker 4 (44:58):
What?
Speaker 5 (44:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
What? What's what's happening with your run game? Rank? Coach Kelly?
Speaker 6 (45:01):
I want I wanted to do that report to ask
any questions after.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
The game because I was like coach kelle I remember
last week, you know, you said you had won the
game and you didn't want to talk about it. You
want to talk about the win now that you didn't win,
can you ask you about your run game?
Speaker 5 (45:18):
This game went over win Keffin's daughter and the LSU
dude when that came out, he said, but.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
This game was was over, Johnny? What am I missing
about nus Mayer? What am I missing?
Speaker 5 (45:32):
Listen?
Speaker 4 (45:32):
There were times last year in games that I watched
with him where I came away really really impressed. I
don't see it a lot, but for whatever reason, this
year we are seeing regression from guys who played well
last year club Nick alar I Smier taking steps backwards.
Speaker 5 (45:50):
And that's really really rare. Is the game goes on
in college football?
Speaker 4 (45:56):
At least for me because I can only speak on
my perspective, the game got slow, came more detailed, It
came more guys being in positions. You see so much
of the same coverage. You don't see a ton of
Nickel dime package random blitz come in. You don't see
a lot of different fronts, and you see the same
base over under the same conditions, a lot of cover,
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three teams to play quarters. So for guys who have
now played not some matter has played twenty games, these
guys have played enough games live bullets firing to where
you got to come out.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
And this should be toying with people. So it is
weird and it is like really like something's going on
to where they're not getting coached in the right way.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Because I was fortunate to be coached by guys who
pushed me, who he learned the game to where things
felt slow for me and I the next year was better.
It kept getting better and better and easier and slower
to the point where you can do it with your
eyes closed type of thing. A lot of it comes
with confidence too. Sometimes you get a little rattle. But
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what we're seeing right now, he's a better player than
what he's showing. And that's what I'm gonna leave you that.
I'm not gonna dog on him. He's better than what
he's showing.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
I think the thing is, if there's a chance, and
this would always tell guy Johnny, if there's a chance
for you to come out, gonna come out right, because.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
The only thing, the only place you can go is down.
You can go down.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
It goes back to I don't I know, you don't
probably remember this. Oh, Joe Georgia take out of safety.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
His name was Ken. His name was Ken Swillings. He's
gonna be a top ten pick.
Speaker 5 (47:34):
He came back.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
He ended up getting drafted like the seventh round because
he went to a bowl game and he had to
cover and it didn't work out so well for him.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
He got exposed. So that's my thing.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
I tell guys, well, you know, no, bro, the only
thing you can do is get exposed, and deficiencies can
be exposed, and now all of a sudden boom, if
you can go out and be a first round pick.
Man gone to get money, get close, go ahead because
now with the money that it is, youk you could
be a three hundred million dollars quarterback and you'll be
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twenty five years twenty five years of age. You could
be a two hundred million dollar defensive player, especially lineman,
d line or line edge rusher at twenty five years
of age. Gone to get close, gone to get three.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
You need only go to the playoffs one time out
of your first four years of year.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Deal.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, So when I'm looking at when I look at
when I look at the guys that you mentioned nus Meyer,
I look at Club Mickey, I look at Aler, I
look at I'm like, and these are the three games
guys that everybody have had, like top quarterbacks. I'm like, well,
damn should do it? Probably thinking, man, I should have
stayed my ass in school, I could have came back.
I'd have definitely been a top ten pick with this class.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (48:51):
Yeah, I mean when I say literally, nobody stands.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Out, nobody, nobody.
Speaker 5 (48:56):
Weak out like what you normally say, Nah, nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
I mean, none of the it's been a wild guy.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
It's been a while that we could honestly turn the
TV on and say, you know what, I don't see
no quarterbacks to get excited about.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
We wake up on Saturday and you're like, damn, I'm
excited to go watch right now, I have to watch
that game.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
None.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
None, Well, I mean I don't even know, Johnny, are
they even gonna give the Heisman out this year?
Speaker 2 (49:26):
I mean, you you got the ward, so you would know.
Are they gonna give the Ward out this year?
Speaker 4 (49:30):
They just go hold up of guys out there that
are floating doing enough, like Diego Pavia has a real chance.
Speaker 5 (49:36):
He got a chance if he goes and continues to
play six.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Buddies today, five passing, one rushing, big games on the
schedule coming up for them. You play Tennessee, you play Alabama,
you're at Andy. You in the season, ten and one
in the playoffs. You keep doing what you're doing. You
play the way you play Arcel Reid. You guys run
the table, go undefeed.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
H Come on, man, I'm looking at some of these guys.
I'm like, damn. I like, the committee is gonna be like, nah,
we're good. We holding off onto it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we're gonna.
Speaker 5 (50:12):
Have a go. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (50:17):
I'm sitting there trying to think about that question you
just asked. When it comes to college football, what team
do you sit there? Even even a player. Most of
the time, we've always gotten one player on one team
that yeah the watch. I mean maybe Ohio State and
Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
That may be the only one. You're the one that
you get excited about.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, and then you get frustrated when they don't throw
him the damn ball, and then I turn the TV
from him.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, because maybe I.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Like maybe, and you know, I'll be thinking in my head, well,
maybe I'm bringing the band. Look, maybe because I'm watching
and he know I'm watching, and they will throwing the ball.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
So maybe.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
We need to give him a little more time. Maybe
they're a little rust Maybe it's one of them years
where taking a little time.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Johnny, you weren't like that when you after you won
the houseman, you came back, You picked right back up.
That's what guys do. Go back and look at the guy.
Look at Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence. When Trevor Lawrence stepped
on when he stepped on campus, Trevor Lawrence ended up
taking the guy's job. When's the national championship, He's like,
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that guy's gonna be the number one pick, and I've
been damn he played like he was gonna be the
number one Jamos, Yes, Baker, Kyler, Mariota.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
I mean, come on, man, what what what do we do?
What are we doing here? Look?
Speaker 1 (51:40):
And I understand maybe that that's unfair. It's not unfair
to have these expectations when I'm just going by the
projection and everybody, look at these guys. These guys can
spend it. Bro I'm looking at these guys and I
am unimpressed. I think all of I think of the
guys that we mentioned, leaves leaves a lot.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
To be desired. And it's not they got they got
players around him.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
It's making It's not like the covers are bear and
I understand it's this college football. These guys are eighteen, nineteen,
twenty years of age. But I mean we should have expectations.
I mean, and I'm and these are the top guys.
Allen was everybody, you know, he come back, You're gonna
improve upon what he did at Penn State. And Nut Smyer.
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I think his daddy was an offensive coordinator, wasn't he
Johnny and the dad an offensive coordinator? And you know,
and you so all the guys that were mentioned, and
I'm like, well damn, I'm just like I said, I
haven't been really impressed with a whole lot of quarterbacks
spinning the football this year. Yeah, maybe I need Maybe
I need to go out. Maybe I just need to
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watch some random because.
Speaker 4 (52:51):
I didn't get access today to I've been talking with
Jake Spavatol, who's the OC A Baylor. They're back right now.
He's playing at a very very high level. He texted
me today. You know, we had another one of those
days where our QB is playing high level football. And
for the people who haven't tuned into a Baylor game,
and you probably haven't because they're not really ranked. Their
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offense and what he's doing at the quarterback position is
something to go and watch. But he give me access to.
Speaker 5 (53:18):
Be able to go watch the All twenty four film
and to be able to go.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
See all the version. So during the weeks now, I'm
really gonna start looking and seeing some of these guys.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
I'm gonna come back with some.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
Good feedback on Saturday nights and some guys and be
able to have some stuff to be able to show.
Because it's out there, you just gotta look hard enough
to go find it. It's not the stuff you're gonna
see on the highlights and this and this, and because
it may be for different teams, But right now, especially
going into this next week, Diego Pavia has a chance
to really go into Tuscaloosa and do something this weekn Really,
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this is the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
I mean, Carson Beck, could Carson Beck, I mean the
guy from Arizona State live it. He played really well
at the tail end of last year, playing well right now,
I mean we like him. I mean, I mean I
might have to start watching him.
Speaker 5 (54:04):
I agree, he's fun to watch.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
He's made some plays where I've seen five six highlights
clips this year, go back into last year a little
bit where you're like, okay, white boy, let's see it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
The Division two transfer Trinidad Chamblis passed for three hundred
and fourteen yards and a touchdown, his third straight game,
his third straight three hundred yard game since taking over
injured quarterback Austin Simmons. I mean, look, you can say
what you want to say about Lane Kiffy that mo
folk can call hick coach.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Oh yeah, man, that play that he called, wait which one?
Speaker 5 (54:45):
Which one?
Speaker 2 (54:45):
Which one? Which one? Oh for or to get that
first down?
Speaker 4 (54:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Man? Hell, I still don't know where the guy came from.
Speaker 5 (54:53):
Hill.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
I think he came off the sideline. I said, how
did this big dude gets so wide open and he
got the first down? Nah, I ain't going no further.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Let me go down here. Were good here, And I
love laying because he shows emotion.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
I love coaching. You know, the the coaches they be
having a little pas. Oh they're not excited that. That's
what I do not laying like.
Speaker 4 (55:13):
Yeah, yeah, I like that, laying me into You gotta
look back in the days, even when he was at Alabama,
And I love this because I would see it with
Kyle Shannonhan at times.
Speaker 5 (55:25):
I'm seeing it with Kingsbury at times.
Speaker 4 (55:28):
The elite A plus coaches when they haven't play dialed
up against the coverage, they're no, they're going to get
in situational football.
Speaker 5 (55:34):
And you'll see it Alabama. The ball snap and his
hands go up and he already.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
Said, I'm already quarters got the basic We're gonna throw
the post over the top. Safety's coming down, because that's
what he does. He's greedy, going for the pick and
launch it. All you gotta do is step back, close
your eyes and throw it. So when you get coaches
like that who know what they're gonna get because they
sit there and grind enough, takee and have done it enough,
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it's in the depressive thing.
Speaker 5 (56:01):
And guess what, you don't see it all across the land,
but you see it with the good ones.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yep, and they know what they got. They got some
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game as soon as it's over. It was a great
day for college football today. Every game was closed, Oh
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Auburn less than a touchdown, Indiana less than a touchdown.
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The number seven we're gonna start with this game, guys.
The number seventeen Alabama Crimson Tide upsets number five Georgia
in Athens between the hedges. Crimson Tide have now won
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three straight over the Bulldogs, ten of the last eleven.
Hindsight twenty twenty do you agree with Kirby Smart not
kicking the field goal?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Johnny?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Going forward on fourth and one at the ten yard
line early in the fourth They got stopped and really
never got back in positioned again. Drop the touchdown? Guy
had a wide open touchdown. He dropped it. Replay repaid
Ryan Williams debt because he dropped one early in the
ball game. What do you think, Johnny? What's your uh?
(04:11):
Kirby Smart had done given that situation.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
It's out of their character to rush to go hurry up.
That's not what they do. The play was close on
third down to where maybe it could get reviewed. Why
not take your time? Let them see if they're gonna
send it to the booth, get a good play that
you want in.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Why are you rushing to go do what we did
at A and M and.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Go hurry up? You don't do that. That's not your
bread and butter. You don't have the right personnel on
the field. But you think it's just a yard and
you're gonna sneak this little inside zone, play outside, don't
play in and it's gonna be it's it's all cool,
We'll be fine. We'll man it up, hat on hat
and get it in. What are we doing? It's so
it's such a big part of the game to think
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you're just gonna slip slide one in and game against Alabama.
So to me, I'm furious. I'm sitting there before the game,
I'm like, who do I like in this game? Georgia
Alabama has shown me nothing?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Nothing, mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Second half they're down. I'll take them at plus seven
five thousand on the dogs again.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Yeah, Ay and Johnny, I think, especially from from a
coaching standpoint, in the situation like that, even though it's
not something that you normally do, because of the circumstance
in the situation in the team that you're playing.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You want you want to.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Do everything you can, you know, to believe in your
team and hope and they can do get that, get that,
get that fourth and one to give yourself some type
of advantage. If anything, I would have got the points.
You take the points in the situation.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
On the play sheet during the week, during your practice,
you got a section there that says third and fourth
and one.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
You got plays that you like in there. You know,
let's call one of those plays.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Maybe a roll out the flat ask if you're gonna
do something, but you don't speed up your offense and
do something that's.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Completely speed up to run, to run, run the ball
and then and then right.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Man, my dog did give him a little stiff arm
and kind of tried to make something shake. He tried,
He gave everything he got. But where's our five star
running back? Why you hurry up the duds in there?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
The block? And it's not his fault. This is coaching.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You got a guy who ran the ball twelve times
for one hundred and nineteen yards and a touchdown. You
had another guy had the ball one care for forty
three yards. So that's not an excuse me. What we're
gonna do. We're gonna be smart. You know what we're
gonna do. We're gonna out smart ourselves. We're gonna run
harry up with our backup to the backup running back
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and see if we can catch Alabama off guard. Because see,
that's when you try to like want to pretend how
smart you are, because what you do ain't. No man, Kirby,
what made you decide to go hurry up in that situation?
Now they're asking the same thing, guys in the in
the press room, Kirby, why would you go hurry up
in that situation?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
If you why not call the time out? You ever
had the lead? Why not take the car? Get it?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Why not your five start running back? There are a
million things you could have done.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You took them.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You took the million than one, so a million things
that we could have done. O Joe, let's take the
one thing we shouldn't do.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Tada.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And you wonder why Alabama has lost more than they won.
Excuse me, Georgia has lost more to Alabama than they've won.
And a lot of times they've had the better of
the teams, they've had the better of the teams. They
should have beat Georgia. They should have beat the Alabama
several times in the SEC Championships. One time they have
Mark Rick. I don't know why they throw the ball
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to the flat when they know they don't have any timeouts.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
If there's less than ten seconds on the clock.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
We see them lose when they got this superior team,
they got all this talent. Now, they did turn around
and beat Alabama in the National Championship game, but Jamison
Williams blew out his knee in that game. Metchi had
blew out his knee and knee in the SEC Championship game.
But a lot of times this has been un inexcusable
for Georgia to lose as many times as they lost
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to Alabama.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And it really doesn't matter where they are.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It could be in Tuscaloosa, it can be between the
Hedges and Athens. It could be at the Georgia Dome,
now the Mercedes Benz.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Don't It does not matter. I just don't understand that.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
This drop is inexcusable on the d ball.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
That is an unbelievable, dialed up in the dirt play,
unbelievable throw. It's picture perfect all the way down to
catching the.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Football well Yeah, he took his eyes.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
What do you think Williams would, right, Willives Ryan Williams
had one.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Just just.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
He's struggling this year. He's struggling this year. Yeah, he's
dropped a lot. He's dropped a lot of plays. Remember
Florida State, how many he dropped Ocho, Yes, sir, he
dropped a touchdown against Wisconsin. I don't know, maybe the
celebrity of the fact, but I don't know if it's
lack of concentration. But he's not He doesn't look like
the guy that we saw the first seven eight games
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last year.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
This year, yeah, oh, Joe, I got a question for
you both.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
You guys go into games, you go through spells as
a receiver where.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
You maybe have some drops you're not seeing. What is
what is the process for you guys?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I see guys go out to practice drug machine wake.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Out there, Yes, get your field, get your flow back.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
But for you guys, I want to hear, I'm curious
that's doing that situation.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Yeah, and for me when I got the yips like that,
especially in the game where I dropped two maybe three balls,
it doesn't matter how much jug Machine I do. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
it's nothing like in game. In games that you I
need to touch the ball. I need to feel the
ball early in the game. And my coaches already know
that ahead of time. Don't give me a route, don't
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give me a slant or a curl. Throw me a
smoke screen, throw me a bubble, throw me something quick
so I can get my confidence back. Once your confidence
is shot after dropping two or three balls, it sticks
with you, Johnny, it sticks with you, UNKI, you know
how that feeling is. Just let me touch it real quick,
just to get myself activated.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
In back.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
For me, I wanted the passes that I dropped, I
go through the same route. So if I was dropping
an out route, I would go through that motion and
have the court and catch it on the jugs. I'm
not just standing there like this, so I'm going through
the motion or I'm gonna have the quarterback to throw
me the ball that I struggle with in the game.
So if it was a slant and must of the time,
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I struggled on the left hand side, So I'm lining
up on the left and catching a slant like this,
so I struggle with that. So that's what I would
work with. If I struggled with the basic cross. If
I wasn't catching. Even if I caught the ball Ojo
and Johnny and I didn't catch it clean, I consider
that a job because now I'm bottling it. Had a
guy been there, I would have dropped it because he
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hit me. Not the ball could have get popped up,
could have gotten popped up in the air, or it
could have hit the dirt. So any time I didn't
catch it clean, I worked on that. But a spell
might be on a game.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
No, I wasn't going no struggling this game, struggling that
game clean for two more games, struggle.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
He wasn't nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
So I just think the thing is, Ojo.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
He when you have a lot of success, and he
had a lot of success last year, I think yes.
And sometimes we start to read the press clippings and
we start to believe and we don't. I don't know
if we were putting the work the same work in
but you can't drop the that's routine because on the
road against the number three team in the country, that
is a ginormous play, Ojo.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
We've taken the crowd completely out of it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Now they did go down and score, but you want
to hush a crowd of our style crowd.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Big play plays, and man, we've seen him do it
last year.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
We've seen him do it last year.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Most against big teams in big games, so we know
he's capable of doing it all.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They got to do George the last year. Yeah, he
caught the one and he stopped.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
S s pereauight and came back. Yes, yes, they said,
oh Ryan got to do just locked back in, lock
back in, remember, remember you remember how you That's a
good thing.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Though, too, because he can't come out this year, no
matter what. So he gets a year no matter what.
So that's okay. Let him develop, let him go through this,
let him have his He canna struggle to get to
a thousand yards, he guess he got. You gotta struggle
unless he really pops off in the back half of
the season for a thousand. For him to come out
this year after the season he had last year and
had seven eight hundred yards will be a disappointment.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
That's a hungry dude in the offseason.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah yeah, but those other guys kind of stepped up
in his in his absence. But I was surprised. I
like Horton Brooks had a big play, had some big plays.
But I was surprised that Georgia. How how poorly Georgia
started the game. You know they turn I think they
had a turnover early the filings. They got the ball,
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they turned it over. Georgia normally comes out. Look, this
is not the same Georgia teams that was winning national
championships with all those five star defensive linemen that would go.
You know, they had five guys go in the first round,
and they got an offensive lineman going in the first round,
and you got a James Cook and you got this
one in that one. They don't have that level of talent.
(13:35):
They talented now, don't get wrong. So I don't want
people to say.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I don't know right now if I'm picking anybody over
Hio skill they feel, do we think they got enough offensively?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You like stocked in, You like stocking that.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Much that that's good throat some times? Third down thirty nine,
where he stepped up and ripped some balls. And that's
what I look for throughout the night. And in a
game big plays, you need something. You're backed up and
you step up with confidence and you really let one
come out of your hand and let it spind. You
called it kind of got banged around on third and nine. Like,
(14:18):
that's a good throw, a confident throw. That's one that
gets a good defense, a good team you build on.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
So when you see stuff like that, is it consistent enough?
That's why you're making that face? Is it consistent enough?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Right?
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Not?
Speaker 5 (14:32):
That's but you grow as the season goes on. You
learn from this. You go back and watch the tape.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Look, they got their work cut out for them.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, Vanderbilt, this is not your father's and grandfather's Vanderbilt.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I went to dinner with Diego Pavia the night they hungry.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Guess what I'm going to tuscle loose Alabama on Saturday
and I'm on the Vandy sideline.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Oh yeah, because Alabama.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Alabama said, we owe y'all after what y'all did does
last year. We owe y'all.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Big on is what the boys are saying.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Vanderbilt.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Uh so, Georgia, Alabama's uh slate Vanderbilt, Missouri and Tennessee.
You remember Tennessee beat them last year. If Vanderbilt beat
them last year, it was those type of games that
ended up keeping them out.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Although they were playing well at the end. That ended
up keeping them.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Out of the college football playoff as they extended, you know,
added more teams to the playoffs, so it's gonna be interested.
I don't know, guys, I don't know. Let me know
what you think, Johnny Man that Kaitlyn the board lost
this game. Boy, they already calling for his head. Yeah,
they're already calling for his head. Game like this some time,
(15:48):
I believe buying some time.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Yeah, two weeks ago, we ago, using lottery money.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, yeah, they still might. They got another lot of right.
I don't know if anybody wasn't mega millions, but they
still they still, they still with it, and people like
well Alabama, Look, I think Texas A and M just
for for for sake, Texas A and M has twenty
point four billion in endowment money.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Alabama has two point six billion. Huh. Florida, Florida. That's
what we was talking about, Florida. Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And what's the guy's name, Billy Napier buying him out
versus what Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
A and M did with Jimbo Jimbo.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
You see the difference, twenty point four billion in endowment
and two point six billion in endowment so this notion
at Florida.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, no, no, no, no. Texas money is different, different Florida money.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
You gotta look under the couch, cushes and shit.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
But hey, hey, joe a think about it.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
They gave that man eighty billion. They say, you know
whatty two eight eighty two eighty.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
We'd give you eighty two to go away and you
go get another job.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You still get to keep the eighty two. Yeah, Like,
just think again.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
A lot of times, a lot of like NFL, what
they'll do. They'll like, if you get another job, or
you become a coordinator, you become an analyst. They deduct that, right,
Jason and Mson, No, we don't even care.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Jim Offisher wake up every day and look out on
the porch and smoke a joint, like damn, thank you, Aggy.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, that's a nice questions from Maggie department.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
But we'll get there one day somehow.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
The number six Oregon Ducks goes in to Beaver Stadium,
shocks the number three Penn State and nit in the
lines by the score of thirty to twenty four.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
In double overtime.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
James Franklin coaching in the twelfth season at Penn State
is now four and twenty one against top ten opponents,
four and twenty he won. I tweeted, is he ever
gonna win a big, meaningful game when he went to
the college football players? All I know is that he's
four and twenty one. Now, y'all think is that acceptable?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Now? Is that now?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
All I know is when I grew up, grew up,
Penn State was a big thing.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
They they Joe Pop rested soul. They won.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, and more time than not, he won games like that.
Go back and look at that eighty seven National championship
game against Miami. They had no business winning that game.
You look at what Miami had as far as is
Tusta Verde and Jerome Brown and Danny Stubbs and all
those guys. Yeah, Penn State had no business whatsoever winning
that game. And Penn State was known to win games
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like that. I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think
they beat Georgia one year for the National championship, or
they kept Georgia from winning the national championship.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I'm just shocked that it.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Somehow he will find a way to lose to Ohio State.
He'll find a way somehow, Johnny to lose a game,
You're like, Okay, they're at home, they're gonna win this way. Oh,
they got this one in the bag and he'll if
it up.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
I mean they were. They were close all games, Johnny
and Uncle. It was a very good game, a very
defensive game. Obviously, I don't I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
As to we're all the stars.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
There's always every every team always, especially like Penn State
is a star. Nobody stood out. Nobody stood out. I
think everyone's somewhat even. And that's what I was looking for.
I was looking for one player, one or two players
that stand out and make a difference in that game.
And nobody stood out to me. So at that point,
it all comes down to the coaching. It all comes
down to the decision make it in an important situation
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on who makes the fewest mistakes that was gonna win
that game.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I think I think impressed that quarter.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Look exactly, you look at number one five, one seven,
two touchdowns and the pick you go to their running back,
the rush game leading rusher twelve carries fifty four yards.
You got their leading receiver four catches forty eight yards.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Enough on that side of the ball that ain't going
to get you a win.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
It really isn't We're talking about fifteen being a guy.
Can he go to the league? Is he the best
quarterback in his class? Is the guy Joe flashes last year?
You don't want to step up and be that guy
in that situation? Man, one, ain't it? You're supposed to
have that in a quarter in college?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
A whole game and double overtime, thank you?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
So you get extra possessions and overtime that you played
a game in two extra possessions and you had one
hundred and thirty seven yards passing.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So you're at.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Home against Oregon and I'm supposed to believe that you're
a top pick.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I don't know. I don't think I'll do.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Here's what I'm thinking about it as well, though, Let's
look back to the last year Oregon played Ohio State
early on, great game, comes down, and then you look
what happens in the playoffs. Completely different thing. So I
respect James Franklin. I like him as a coach, as
a human being, as a program leader. I understand in
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big situations four in twenty one, there's something going on
there where you get nervous, or you tighten up or
get a little what whatever it is? Bourn twenty one
in big games? Come on, it darts to the wall blindfolded,
hit more four than twenty one? What are we talking about?
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But at the end of the day, you can look
at this as we played the number six team in
the country really tough, and if we see him again,
come on, it's all about perspective. And I didn't have
handled this loss.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
But here's the thing you had agreed. See, I didn't think.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I didn't think Orgon was gonna beat Ohio State. They
lost on a two one conversion of Ohio State at Oregon.
What the hell you think were you? That was gonna
happen if you meet on a neutral site.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
What happened? Yeah, the doors blowed off.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
If Oregon meet Penn State on the neutral site again,
if that's fortunate enough to happen, doors blown off because
they still got Penn State.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I'm excuse me.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
They still got Ohio State, they still got Michigan on schedule.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So are we sure they already got one loss early
in the season? Are we sure?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Are we sure Penn State when it's all saying that
it's gonna be there, Johnny.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
You look next week, you say l a bo bo
Northwestern b Iowa.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Easy, Okay, maybe I'll give you.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Oh they lose when they're gonna lose one of them, Johnny,
that's Penn State, that jant.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Frankly, you're gonna lose one of them.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
And for me, I ain't as confident as you sound
in Ohio State's quarterback play. They're good as a team.
As a unit, you rely on your d you got
the receivers, you got the pieces.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I ain't. I ain't as uh.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I ain't as confident in them as uh as most
people are. And then look you got Indiana, Michigan State, Nebraska, Rutgers, Nebraska.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I mean, what do they play Nebraska at home?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, they probably went down.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
So I mean, you go through it.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
You have a loss of Ohio State, you run the
rest of the table, you have two losses, and you're
Penn State.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
You're at three right now, you end up in the
top twelve, for sure, for sure, you.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Might be right.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
The question is what does what does Ohio State look
like when it's all said and done? How many losses
does Oregon have when it's all said and done.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Let's just say, for the sake of argument Oregon runs
the table. Uh does Oregon play Ohio State in the
regular season or they can only playing the championship game.
They're getting ready to do away with champion game. Okay,
let's just say everybody is undefeated. I don't believe they take.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Illinois.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Whoa Illinois not a cake wall. Okay, that's gonna be
a good game.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Give you that. That's a good game.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Minnesota, Wisconsin, penn State, Purdue, U C l A, Rutgers, Michigan.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
The end the season, they don't lose more than two,
they're in.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
True right, that game, that Michigan game is gonna be tough.
I don't know what it is, Michigan, Michigan, I don't
It doesn't matter. They find a way to play the
scratch claw and dig out a win against Ohio State.
No matter how talented Ohio State is, Michigan somehow finds
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a way to win.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
When that's it's been there. We see it every year.
It happens.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, but I'm just surprised that Jane Franklin, think about
all the time, Johnny and Ojo that we've seen mission
Pennon State have a superior.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Team, only took lose Drew Aller.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Look, he might turn out to be one of the
greatest Penn State quarterback in the NFL, and that ain't
saying much because Fenn State, they had a whole lot
of great quarterbacks in the NFL. You go back to
Chuck Pasona, and you go back to Todd black Leg
and a Carry Collins, no difference. Carry Collins might be
the best, but he does not impress me. As my
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grandmother used to say, he doesn't ras my berry. I
get I get nothing. I get nothing, I get nothing.
I get nothing out of that. I really don't. I'm
looking at him, BROB like, bro what are we doing?
And people have him rated really high? Johnny, am I
missing something?
Speaker 6 (25:54):
I mean that when it comes to the quarterback position,
the quarterbacks are rated when there's not much else out there.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
We've been talking about the quarterback play, even our boy Castlelanas,
who we were so hype about last week.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
I put some money on Florida State on Friday night.
That ain't at I was tough. They're sick.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
At the drawing board, yeah they I think Florida State
might have been feeling themselves a little too much.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
But you see what happens. What happened on Joe when
expectations come. You see, when they played Atlabama, they didn't
have no expectations, right nobody. Now all of a sudden,
they're undefeated there on the road, and now you have
some expectations. Could Florida State make the you know, the
college football playoffs? Now you start to have expectations. No
one had expectations from Florida State until they did what
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they did to Alabama, and they now all of a sudden,
damn to that, right man. Look, I don't get it,
Like I said, Penn State four and twenty one twenty
with Penn State is four and twenty one against top
ten opponents.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And it's not like they haven't been ranked in the
top ten. Their damn cell.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
So it's not like all of a sudden that that's
a top ten opponent and we're unranked or we're in
you know, we're twenty, we're twenty five.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Penn State a lot of time is ranked in the
top ten. Of them, damn their damn cell.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Look, maybe they're afraid they can't fight anybody else in
Jane Franklin, but I'm not so sure that he would
have been able to be at any other institution, this loan,
with the pedigree that an institution has as long as
Penn State. I'm shocked. I am absolutely shocked that he's
been able to be there this loan. You're not gonna
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be at Alabama, You're not gonna be at Georgia, You're
not gonna be at any of the Ohio State with that,
No sir, no way, no way. Know how four and
twenty one and you lose it the Ohio State, damn
every basically every year. How many times to be the
Ohio State since he's been there once.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I think you get it.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
You get a little bit, a little bit more leency
with understanding that you are playing in superior school, you
get you get a little bit if you can soap
somehow get a win.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yes, you understand that Ohio State has the better players.
Here's a thing.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
You get into the playoffs. They get into the playoffs
and go look good and be competitive with it.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
That's the thing they keep getting wiggling their way in
just good enough, bare minimum type stuff. So when you
do that and you look back at the season as
somebody who's overseeing that whole program, you're like, you know what,
you don't forget about that loss or at Ohio State,
you don't forget about you forget about that.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Like, oh we went to the playoff.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
A couple of players go here, our way, here and
there like we're good. You look at that perspective, but
in reality, when you lay it out, you lay it
for what it is. If you're a top program.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, oh how many times? I think the biggest thing
is this is where you measure a coach. How many
times does he win a game he's not supposed to win?
See you look at Nick Saban and all the times
he beat Georgia when he wasn't supposed to, or he
beat in LSU when he wasn't supposed to.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Or he beat no or he beat these teams.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
How many times will we going to a game and
we say, man, Penn State ain't got no chance of
winning this game, and.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
They win it. They do. Why don't you If it's
a fifty to fifty ball game, they lose.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So if we're looking at it and we're saying, okay,
this is a game, I want to see somebody with
Coach Belichick. Coach Belichick, a lot of times he's winning
games like he wasn't supposed to beat the Greatest Show Turf.
He wasn't supposed to beat the Legion the Boom. He
was not supposed to go on the road, and and
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and and beat Patrick Mahomes. You have to win in
order to put to get the credit that you deserve.
You're gonna have to win games.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
You know, Atlanta, That's how you became Johnny.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
If you go to Alabama. If you go into Alabama
and you lose, you're not Johnny Football.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
You won a game that you weren't supposed to win.
Nobody gave you a chance, y'all was what two three?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But Uncle Johnny.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
The funny thing about it is, obviously sometimes coach is
supposed to win games that they shouldn't win. You get
the recognition, but it's hard to win games. You don't
have the personnel. It's hard if they take you the
baker cake, but you ain't got no goddamn no, no mix.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
You gotta understand what I'm saying, make something, make something palatable.
You know what I mean? But I get I'll jo
you're right, But that's the main it is winning.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Let me ask your question, who had the most talent
the Greatest show on turf coach Belichick's Patriots. Yes, a
game you're not supposed to win, your undermantter, what there
ain't no excuses Giants versus the Patriots. One team is
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eighteen and oh one team got some argue. The greatest
receiver ever, the greatest quarterback ever, the greatest head coach ever.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah tu the Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
So sometimes you win games when you're undermand that's oh joe,
If all I do is win when I got the best.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Team, how good a damn coach? Ever? Yeah? Right, Jaye Franklin.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
At some point in times, you're gonna have to win,
to win games that nobody doesn't expect you. And now
you're at home, you're the number three ceeds. People were
expecting you to beat the organ because you're the high
ranked team, and you home and somehow you find more
more times than not. It so based on this, in
twenty five games against the top ten opponent, more times
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than not, triple the times, quadruple the times he found
ways to win lose as opposed to winning.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
And that's a problem. That is a problem.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
As we got number nine Texas A and M Johnny's Albamada.
Number nine Texas A and M holds off the Auburn Tigers.
I don't know how you get two names. You get
a war Eagle and your Tiger. But anyway, improved to
four and oh since the first time since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Auburn finished the game.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
All of thirteen on third down conversion and had just
one hundred and seventy seven total yards against A and M.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
A and M had four hundred and fourteen.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Marcel Reid not turned the ball over against Texas, alling
them had had committed thirteen penalties, the final score would
have been a lot worse.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Johnny, that's your team. What'd you like about what you
saw from listen?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I talked to him every night after the games.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
And as you're going into games like this, and you're
getting into SEC play and you're playing a good team
like Auburn, you have to find ways throughout the season
to go out and get a win, whether it's pretty,
whether it's ugly, whether you have some penalties.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
But look at it as a whole.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Fifteen to twenty two at seven incompletions, doesn't throw a
Tuddy two hundred and seven yards passing, and for him,
he rushed for minus twenty three yards for a guy
who uses his legs.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
That's an off night for him.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Look, Le'Veon Moss twenty one carries one hundred and thirty nine.
I've talked to him every week. What I've told him
is listen, as good as that feels, ass much as
you want to go out and celebrate, learn for me, man,
learn from me, and buckle down.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
We were in a place that we ain't been in
in ten years, nine years.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, grind it.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Go back this week, go harder, take this, run with
it and go get better. Use the film, use the stuff,
go to practice, take everything you can. The party gonna
be there, and the party gonna be better whenever you
get to the SEC championship game, whenever you keep winning,
whenever you keep stacking good days, good weeks. So I'm
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in his ear every week in the most positive of ways.
We're going to enjoy this for a couple of seconds
right now because it feels good, and you should enjoy
it because it is a good team win. But at
the end of the day, everybody in the country is
waiting on A and M to be A and M
of the past. The way you stick out and be
legendary is to go and do what hasn't been done.
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He wants to go be up there with me at Texas.
A and M.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Keep winning, keep doing your thing, keep being a leader.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
That's how you get a stay, That's how you get
a statue, that's how you get your name on the building.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
That's what you want. So right now, so far, so good.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Everybody's waiting on the aggies to aggie and there's a
couple of people they can keep that in perspective and
keep it rolling.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Look A and M. Defense was coming.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I mean, twenty four rushes fifty two yards eighteen of
thirty three, you had thirty three pass attempts and you
only had one hundred and twenty five yards less. That's
Suppo're supposed to have one hundred twenty five yard passes
and three drives.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Them boys playing good defense, that real good defense. Most
of the time you think about college football too on Johnny.
Defense is the part where they really don't play very well.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
It's hard because all these spread offenses and all this motion,
this zone read stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
If you see, if it's infiltrated.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
The NFL, NFL sit their personnel down there to study Baylor,
to study these la to study these open offenses. You
see a lot more of that now college offense into
the NFL as opposed to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
In college, ain't nobody dot in the eye. You find
very few backs.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Everyone basically the only team that really gets in the
eye if you got uh, Derrick Henry and Jonathan Taylor, Damn,
everybody else is on the offset because very few, very
few quarterbacks are under center. Now, Johnny, a lot of
these guys getting to college ojo and they have never
ever taken a snap under center the center. Yeah, some
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guys get to the NFL and they ain't taking a
snap under center center. Yeah, the first time they take
a snap on the center that THEYMNT pro date look
at Johnny.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Johnny raised his head like, we have maybe.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Six snaps in two years where we went under center.
I got to the NFL, I'm like, what the fuck
is this?
Speaker 2 (36:46):
You feeling good about your aging? You think they can
make it all the way down to Georgia.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
They have the pieces they need, they got if they can,
if they can come together as a band of brothers
and they can look at it and say, you.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Know this defense, we stout offense.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
What we did versus Notre Dame, we can do versus
anybody in the country, but it takes a special unit.
Not ones buying into the hype, not ones getting lackadaisical,
not ones taking a week off in practice.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Like Yo, we play somebody that we should beat this week.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Somebody can come up and catch you, and that one
game changes your whole trajectory. So are the pieces there
for A and M Are they a contender without a doubt?
They played well enough against teams that are solid to
prove that. But it takes consistency and it takes them
coming every week with your lunch failed. You got to
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come and bring in. That's just what it comes down to.
So if you want it, it's there. You got the
pieces now or whatever?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Sure, but they got the do you got do you
guys got Texas or Oklahoma on your schedule on the road.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
There's no love laws between you. And last year was
a brutal one. Last year was tough in our own
house bringing the rivalry back. We ain't sniff a chance
to win that game last year.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, y'all tried to block Texas from coming to the SEC.
What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
It was all good when we wanted to go, But
when they want to go where we had about it.
There's the thing, there's some things that go on at
A and M that you got to look at and
kind of be like, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
But yeah, that just is what it is.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Everybody wants their cake and to eat it too, and
to keep them out of something that's been really great
for us. But like listen, if twenty twelve didn't go
the way that it went for us, our SEC trajectory
could be way, way different. When we were coming into
the SEC, all we heard was you boys need to
get ready. You're gonna get smacked. This is different than
what you're used to. This ain't Iowa State, This ain't
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Kansas State. Now, we set ourselves on a good path
with twenty twelve and twenty thirteen, but then there's a
big role there for eight nine years where we really
haven't had a lot of success out kind of nineteen
or twenty twenty. Kellen Monds last year and it was
the COVID year and we went to the Orange Bowl,
lost one game. We haven't really had a lot of success.
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So for us, this team has the chance to do
what hasn't been done at Texas A and M in
a long time, and for us in the type of
program we are, if you're being honest, double digit wins
for us are something that are truly programmed changing. But
we're in the second year of ELKO. We go through
the buyout, we go through the jokes. We are the
butt of the joke for years. Oh you pay Jimbo this,
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he has to go, you pay him off.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
You have success.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
In the second year at ELKO, you really start to
build on something where that money now makes it worth it.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
When you paid Jimbo that kind of money, you got
to get to an SEC championship game, you got to
get into the college football player.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
It's just the way life, wo Joe. And you know, Johnny,
you understand this.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
You played there, know how devout and loyal that fan
base is, and you know how those big boosters are.
They gempted the well, they found some money in their
cushions to give Jimbo that that kind of money. I
ain't said the empty their pocket because they got deep pocket.
Their pockets go down to that. So yeah, they didn't
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have to dig too deep to find that. And so
the expectations, like you said, you keep winning these games,
and like you said, okay, you win double digits. But
at some point in time they look over there and
it's like, nah, were in the Big Boy Conference.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
We want to play thirteen years and you don't go
once unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
I couldn't get it done, can't get it done for
the nine years after thirteen years in at a conference
and you don't sniff it.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
So they're gonna have to They're gonna have to figure
this thing out. You believe they have the type of
team that can get there. It's I mean, this thing
is gonna really be tough. I mean, tax Us and
Oklahoma say they got something to say about it. Georgia
has an SEC law, but hey, they're like, hey, we
got something to say about it. Bama didn't have an
SEC loss yet, but they're they're probably they're probably six
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to seventeen. Tennessee Van the built they're six and seventeen.
That says, you know what, we think we got a
realistic chance of being down in acad.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Schedule though next week Mississippi State, then we played Florida.
We've already harped on Florida enough where they don't deserve
no air of time. Arkansas okay, but they got the
doors blowed up there, all right, LSU late and end
of the ten twenty five, all right, that's gonna be
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a good game.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Goole man Brian Kelly. You know Brian Kelly threw up
on him sel.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Okay, that's the one that sticks out.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Outside of that, then you got Missouri, and you got
South Carolina and you got Stamford, and then the end
of season you got you got Texas. So like four,
it looks as a schedule what the SEC could be right,
what your schedule could look like. I would say overall
that's pretty favorable. Yes, you have to go win some
good games against good teams.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
That's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
You're not playing in the Big Ten, you're not playing
in the Big twelve, you're not playing in the ACC.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Not Kat and Cake walks in conference.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
But if you look at who you can play versus
who you have on your schedule, I would say it
lines up really nice.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Where you guys got the game cartoon? Are they coming
to y'all? Are y'all going to them? Okay?
Speaker 5 (42:26):
And they beat us last year in the game that
we felt like we should win and they beat us bad.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, so that'd be that'd be a very interesting game.
Just we'll see what Johnny believes his team could be.
I know you're gonna be on board. Lord have mercy.
I could just imagine, I could just imagine take all.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
Give the whole thing away.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
But South Carolina weekend, those boys in that locker room,
from what I have coming in that game are going
to be more motivated than any team, any game in
the last fifteen years of text saying that I got
a real special freak coming for the Aggies November fifteen,
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fire program changing for us in my.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Opinion, you got Drake coming in.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Huh If you're working on the album? What're on? All
many Bahamas work on the album?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm just checking this checking guys.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Remember last week when Brian Kelly went on this rant
about reporters asking about his offense. Well, in the twenty
four to nineteen lost to Old Miss, the Tigers mustard
two of eleven on third downs and lack an effective
running game. They trudged sixty five yards on twenty one
non sack carries with a long of ten. Garrett nussmar
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once again had a bare mediocre game against top competition.
Nussmier managed less than two hundred yards on thirty four
pass attempts six yards and average per throw. Well, you
know what a let's not ask Brian Kelly about this
run game because you won you so now can we
(44:10):
ask you about your run game now? Mister Kelly, Hey,
like you said, it was one game, okay, I would act,
but see, oho, what what's the what's the what's the model?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Ohoe? We never accept anything in a win.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Loss.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
We wasn't in a loss. So I'm to ask you now, yeah,
if this running game, is it acceptable?
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Coach Kelly? Because you know you you were celebrating. You
wanted to celebrate we won the game. The guys asked
you to say we won the game. Guys, we won
the game. Okay, Now now that you didn't win the game,
do I have your undivided attention now, Coach Kelly, I'd
like to ask you about your running game because last
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week you didn't want to talk about it, because you
want can we talk about it now?
Speaker 2 (44:56):
What would you like to say about your running game?
Speaker 5 (44:57):
What?
Speaker 4 (44:58):
What?
Speaker 5 (44:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
What? What's what's happening with your run game? Rank? Coach Kelly?
Speaker 6 (45:01):
I want I wanted to do that report to ask
any questions after.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
The game because I was like coach kelle I remember
last week, you know, you said you had won the
game and you didn't want to talk about it. You
want to talk about the win now that you didn't win,
can you ask you about your run game?
Speaker 5 (45:18):
This game went over win Keffin's daughter and the LSU
dude when that came out, he said, but.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
This game was was over, Johnny? What am I missing
about nus Mayer? What am I missing?
Speaker 5 (45:32):
Listen?
Speaker 4 (45:32):
There were times last year in games that I watched
with him where I came away really really impressed. I
don't see it a lot, but for whatever reason, this
year we are seeing regression from guys who played well
last year club Nick alar I Smier taking steps backwards.
Speaker 5 (45:50):
And that's really really rare. Is the game goes on
in college football?
Speaker 4 (45:56):
At least for me because I can only speak on
my perspective, the game got slow, came more detailed, It
came more guys being in positions. You see so much
of the same coverage. You don't see a ton of
Nickel dime package random blitz come in. You don't see
a lot of different fronts, and you see the same
base over under the same conditions, a lot of cover,
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three teams to play quarters. So for guys who have
now played not some matter has played twenty games, these
guys have played enough games live bullets firing to where
you got to come out.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
And this should be toying with people. So it is
weird and it is like really like something's going on
to where they're not getting coached in the right way.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Because I was fortunate to be coached by guys who
pushed me, who he learned the game to where things
felt slow for me and I the next year was better.
It kept getting better and better and easier and slower
to the point where you can do it with your
eyes closed type of thing. A lot of it comes
with confidence too. Sometimes you get a little rattle. But
(47:04):
what we're seeing right now, he's a better player than
what he's showing. And that's what I'm gonna leave you that.
I'm not gonna dog on him. He's better than what
he's showing.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
I think the thing is, if there's a chance, and
this would always tell guy Johnny, if there's a chance
for you to come out, gonna come out right, because.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
The only thing, the only place you can go is down.
You can go down.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
It goes back to I don't I know, you don't
probably remember this. Oh, Joe Georgia take out of safety.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
His name was Ken. His name was Ken Swillings. He's
gonna be a top ten pick.
Speaker 5 (47:34):
He came back.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
He ended up getting drafted like the seventh round because
he went to a bowl game and he had to
cover and it didn't work out so well for him.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
He got exposed. So that's my thing.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
I tell guys, well, you know, no, bro, the only
thing you can do is get exposed, and deficiencies can
be exposed, and now all of a sudden boom, if
you can go out and be a first round pick.
Man gone to get money, get close, go ahead because
now with the money that it is, youk you could
be a three hundred million dollars quarterback and you'll be
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twenty five years twenty five years of age. You could
be a two hundred million dollar defensive player, especially lineman,
d line or line edge rusher at twenty five years
of age. Gone to get close, gone to get three.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
You need only go to the playoffs one time out
of your first four years of year.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Deal.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, So when I'm looking at when I look at
when I look at the guys that you mentioned nus Meyer,
I look at Club Mickey, I look at Aler, I
look at I'm like, and these are the three games
guys that everybody have had, like top quarterbacks. I'm like, well,
damn should do it? Probably thinking, man, I should have
stayed my ass in school, I could have came back.
I'd have definitely been a top ten pick with this class.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (48:51):
Yeah, I mean when I say literally, nobody stands.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Out, nobody, nobody.
Speaker 5 (48:56):
Weak out like what you normally say, Nah, nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
I mean, none of the it's been a wild guy.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
It's been a while that we could honestly turn the
TV on and say, you know what, I don't see
no quarterbacks to get excited about.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
We wake up on Saturday and you're like, damn, I'm
excited to go watch right now, I have to watch
that game.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
None.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
None, Well, I mean I don't even know, Johnny, are
they even gonna give the Heisman out this year?
Speaker 2 (49:26):
I mean, you you got the ward, so you would know.
Are they gonna give the Ward out this year?
Speaker 4 (49:30):
They just go hold up of guys out there that
are floating doing enough, like Diego Pavia has a real chance.
Speaker 5 (49:36):
He got a chance if he goes and continues to
play six.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Buddies today, five passing, one rushing, big games on the
schedule coming up for them. You play Tennessee, you play Alabama,
you're at Andy. You in the season, ten and one
in the playoffs. You keep doing what you're doing. You
play the way you play Arcel Reid. You guys run
the table, go undefeed.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
H Come on, man, I'm looking at some of these guys.
I'm like, damn. I like, the committee is gonna be like, nah,
we're good. We holding off onto it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we're gonna.
Speaker 5 (50:12):
Have a go. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (50:17):
I'm sitting there trying to think about that question you
just asked. When it comes to college football, what team
do you sit there? Even even a player. Most of
the time, we've always gotten one player on one team
that yeah the watch. I mean maybe Ohio State and
Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
That may be the only one. You're the one that
you get excited about.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, and then you get frustrated when they don't throw
him the damn ball, and then I turn the TV
from him.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, because maybe I.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Like maybe, and you know, I'll be thinking in my head, well,
maybe I'm bringing the band. Look, maybe because I'm watching
and he know I'm watching, and they will throwing the ball.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
So maybe.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
We need to give him a little more time. Maybe
they're a little rust Maybe it's one of them years
where taking a little time.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Johnny, you weren't like that when you after you won
the houseman, you came back, You picked right back up.
That's what guys do. Go back and look at the guy.
Look at Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence. When Trevor Lawrence stepped
on when he stepped on campus, Trevor Lawrence ended up
taking the guy's job. When's the national championship, He's like,
(51:22):
that guy's gonna be the number one pick, and I've
been damn he played like he was gonna be the
number one Jamos, Yes, Baker, Kyler, Mariota.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
I mean, come on, man, what what what do we do?
What are we doing here? Look?
Speaker 1 (51:40):
And I understand maybe that that's unfair. It's not unfair
to have these expectations when I'm just going by the
projection and everybody, look at these guys. These guys can
spend it. Bro I'm looking at these guys and I
am unimpressed. I think all of I think of the
guys that we mentioned, leaves leaves a lot.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
To be desired. And it's not they got they got
players around him.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
It's making It's not like the covers are bear and
I understand it's this college football. These guys are eighteen, nineteen,
twenty years of age. But I mean we should have expectations.
I mean, and I'm and these are the top guys.
Allen was everybody, you know, he come back, You're gonna
improve upon what he did at Penn State. And Nut Smyer.
(52:28):
I think his daddy was an offensive coordinator, wasn't he
Johnny and the dad an offensive coordinator? And you know,
and you so all the guys that were mentioned, and
I'm like, well damn, I'm just like I said, I
haven't been really impressed with a whole lot of quarterbacks
spinning the football this year. Yeah, maybe I need Maybe
I need to go out. Maybe I just need to
(52:49):
watch some random because.
Speaker 4 (52:51):
I didn't get access today to I've been talking with
Jake Spavatol, who's the OC A Baylor. They're back right now.
He's playing at a very very high level. He texted
me today. You know, we had another one of those
days where our QB is playing high level football. And
for the people who haven't tuned into a Baylor game,
and you probably haven't because they're not really ranked. Their
(53:13):
offense and what he's doing at the quarterback position is
something to go and watch. But he give me access to.
Speaker 5 (53:18):
Be able to go watch the All twenty four film
and to be able to go.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
See all the version. So during the weeks now, I'm
really gonna start looking and seeing some of these guys.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
I'm gonna come back with some.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
Good feedback on Saturday nights and some guys and be
able to have some stuff to be able to show.
Because it's out there, you just gotta look hard enough
to go find it. It's not the stuff you're gonna
see on the highlights and this and this, and because
it may be for different teams, But right now, especially
going into this next week, Diego Pavia has a chance
to really go into Tuscaloosa and do something this weekn Really,
(53:49):
this is the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
I mean, Carson Beck, could Carson Beck, I mean the
guy from Arizona State live it. He played really well
at the tail end of last year, playing well right now,
I mean we like him. I mean, I mean I
might have to start watching him.
Speaker 5 (54:04):
I agree, he's fun to watch.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
He's made some plays where I've seen five six highlights
clips this year, go back into last year a little
bit where you're like, okay, white boy, let's see it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
The Division two transfer Trinidad Chamblis passed for three hundred
and fourteen yards and a touchdown, his third straight game,
his third straight three hundred yard game since taking over
injured quarterback Austin Simmons. I mean, look, you can say
what you want to say about Lane Kiffy that mo
folk can call hick coach.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Oh yeah, man, that play that he called, wait which one?
Speaker 5 (54:45):
Which one?
Speaker 2 (54:45):
Which one? Which one? Oh for or to get that
first down?
Speaker 4 (54:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Man? Hell, I still don't know where the guy came from.
Speaker 5 (54:53):
Hill.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
I think he came off the sideline. I said, how
did this big dude gets so wide open and he
got the first down? Nah, I ain't going no further.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Let me go down here. Were good here, And I
love laying because he shows emotion.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
I love coaching. You know, the the coaches they be
having a little pas. Oh they're not excited that. That's
what I do not laying like.
Speaker 4 (55:13):
Yeah, yeah, I like that, laying me into You gotta
look back in the days, even when he was at Alabama,
And I love this because I would see it with
Kyle Shannonhan at times.
Speaker 5 (55:25):
I'm seeing it with Kingsbury at times.
Speaker 4 (55:28):
The elite A plus coaches when they haven't play dialed
up against the coverage, they're no, they're going to get
in situational football.
Speaker 5 (55:34):
And you'll see it Alabama. The ball snap and his
hands go up and he already.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
Said, I'm already quarters got the basic We're gonna throw
the post over the top. Safety's coming down, because that's
what he does. He's greedy, going for the pick and
launch it. All you gotta do is step back, close
your eyes and throw it. So when you get coaches
like that who know what they're gonna get because they
sit there and grind enough, takee and have done it enough,
(55:59):
it's in the depressive thing.
Speaker 5 (56:01):
And guess what, you don't see it all across the land,
but you see it with the good ones.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yep, and they know what they got. They got some
good cooked up
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