Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Shedeur Sanders making his first NFL start this upcoming Sunday, Joe Burrow makes a major step in returning and is back at practice, and Keon Coleman is inactive for Thursday Night football and much more!
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Speaker 4 (04:33):
The chat first topic.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Joe Burrow made huge steps in his recovery journey on
Wednesday by being named a full participant in Bengals team practice.
Excuse me, this is the first time that he's gotten
the designation since he suffered a turf toe injury in
Week two.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Joe would need to.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Be activated by December first from the injury reserve to
have any chance to play again this season. Oh, Joe,
your Bengals are three and sent, Yes, sir, three and seven. Yeah,
only seven games to go.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
If there are scenario which you see if the if
the Bengals were to lose Sunday, Yes, sir, if there's
a scenario where you see Joe being activated, because if
he's not activated by junior me December, per Yes, that
means he can't I mean basically, he can't come off
and he'd be on there for the rest of the season.
Do you see a scenario where you guys lose this
game and him come off injury reserve.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, honestly, I think regardless there is really no scenario
in this matter or in.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
This case, whether we win or whether we lose.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Joe Burrow being the competitor that he is, he would
probably override any suggestions that he gets some doctors, uh,
anyone that sits in positions of power in that uh,
in that in that front office, and he's coming back
to playing whether we lose it or not. I just
knowing Joe Burrow, the type of player he is, the
type of competitor is whether we have a chance to
(05:56):
to get to the playoffs or he could have want
to finish the season off wrong and and and and
make some of with a statement to show that he
can still stay upright. He can, he can still be healthy,
you know, regardless of circumstances, whether we're going to the
playoffs or not.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
So you just you're just looking forward to them getting
back out there on the field. You don't, you ain't
really you don't really think y'all gonna make no playoffs?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Hey, Joe, Joe, Honestly, right now, I haven't really really
thought of the scenarios or the possibility of us making
the playoffs at three or seven. I think it's very
very difficult Joe. Honestly, I think it's very difficult. But
for me, I would love for Joe to come back,
not even playoff scenario, but just the finish the season
off strong. Finish the season off strong, getting you know,
(06:45):
get in there and do what you can.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Strong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, from hold on, let
me finish.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm not talking about I'm not talking about from a
team standpoint of this point, when you're three and seven.
I'm just saying individually, all players need to finish the
season off strong from an individual standpoint, so they feel
a little bitter about themselves going into next year, regardless
of whether we we did well or we whether we
did well or we didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
As a teamage well, ain't no regardless, ain't no area right, regardless,
you have to use regardless, regardless.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I said, I said, or regardless. Yeah, y'all were terrible
this year.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah, we were terrible. Finish out on no
good note.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Okay, I said.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
That's why I said individually, That's why the first thing
I said, even if even if we lose.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
What we won't, which we probably won't.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You gone to lose, Take the ill f out, Take
the illf out. First of all, y'all was losing with Chase.
Y'all losing with Chase. Yeah, he gone, Okay, now let's
try again.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Like I said, someone someone who has a little optimism, Joe,
I'm talking, Joe, I'm gonna talk to you. I got
I'm a little optimistic. Ain't no telling what's gonna happen.
I know Chase is not playing this game.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
We got eleven weeks. You know what's gonna happen, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I Hey Joe, I don't I don't like I don't
like the way uncle's treat my bank.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Hey O, Joe, I think y'all just need to let
you know what. I just want to take my last bike.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Take the last bike, take the las, take your time talking.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I want to go ahead. Finished against some food on
my stuff because I've been hungry. I had a couple
of events I had to go to that I will
get my laugh, my laugh.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Right now, taking time me and Joe, got me and
Joe anyway, Joe, like I was saying, listen from individ
from an individual standpoint, Joe, knowing how Burrow is, knowing
the competitor that he is, he's a liar, Hey, Joe,
he's coming back to play, Joe regard regards to how
(08:56):
we're doing that.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
But sometimes you know we can get now on way.
Now you know the man been bogged down with and
you know that tod On Lingo Bro.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I know that, Joe. I know I Joe. I know
one thing.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
If Joe, if Burrow ain't feeling one hundred percent, he
not taking his ass out there on that field.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Well then he ain't gonna play it. It ain't no
way here that toad gonna be one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Man.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
You listen, Yeah, let the man, Let the man heal up,
and then y'all get another crank at the next year.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
If it don't happen next year with you, you gotta
blow that thing up.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Okay, Okay, I mean I like that, Joe, but I
me me honestly, if Joe feels good and knowing knowing
how he is, he's sitting on that sideline, Joe, if
if he can go and then think about it, eighty
eighty five, eighty seven, even in ninety percent, Joe Burrow
it is better than half the goddamn league.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
It's better than half the league out there, even horble.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So I would like to see I would like to
see him go, honestly, just to finish it off strongest,
just so you feel good about yourself in your head.
And when in the back of your head it's like, well, god, damn,
I haven't been hurt three out of six seasons, you know,
and it ain't ain't been able to contribute to help
my team out, man ship knowing him.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Man, I'm finishing this, I'm finishing off.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Hey, look, I'm sure he probably does want to get
back up. I mean he's making a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, oh yeah, okay, but uh Ojo.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Sometimes man, you know you gotta get in guys, wait
man and just tell him, Hey, look, we understand. Yeah,
we know you want to play. Yeah, but you probably
need to situateated this season. Now we can get you
right going in the next season. Hey, man, you just
playing football just to be finishing the season and they
main't get hurt again.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Now come on now, Yeah, I mean, you're right, I'm
trying to help y'all, trying to Joe Joe, you right,
But I'm telling you how the individual is. He's an animal,
but he an animal, right, animal? I just I just
don't see any scenario where he can go sit down.
Especially he was a full participant in practice today. He
was a full participant in practice.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
See that thing feel like tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Unless Joe Burrow will come back of the combination of Miles,
Garrett and Taylor, y'all ain't going nowhere. I don't give
damn buddy, come back here.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
And we understand that part Joe, Miles.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Garrett, and Lawrence Taylor a little big. The deon Sanders
array lewis in there. So one of them he's gonna.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Be right, I mean, neither one, neither one.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
But that day you have to understand that. That's not
the part we talk about. You got to understand the
type of individual Joe is. You got to understand, Okay,
you don't.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Become the number one overall pick without being a competitor
and that's but you also don't become somebody without being realistic.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, man, I understand that, Joe. I mean, have you
seen your defense.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, that man ain't thinking about none of that. That
man ain't thinking about none of that. That man is
thinking about getting on that field, getting back healthy and
trying to contribute and finish the season off on a
high note for him in the village, so he feels
better about himself going into the off season. I'm telling
you how you think, and I know it because if
he wasn't, it wouldn't be no.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
No goddamn reason to be a god damn price of today.
He Joe, he was, Joe. We got something showing for you.
What's that? What they bringing the man? Look at? Look
at they're bringing him back? Joe? Is that bubble rup
got y'all? Why y'all disrespect him a quarterback? Now, don't know?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Hold on, hold on, well you over there laughing, he
bet he better than h BO next down there in
Denver right now.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
And he ain't even and and Joe ain't even not
debating his skill set.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
We're not debating how good he actually because excuse me,
we know he's great.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
We're not debating that. I know, I know, But but
hold on. The jokes just.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Flying and he here and the ha ha and like
like he ain't that boy?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Don't you don't think that fit? You just said the
man been hurt three of the six years.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I'm just speaking facts on his first year, he got hurt.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
The next year he went through then he went to
the DIN, he went to a Super Bowl, then he
got his wrist hurt.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Now he done missed.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
He missed the entire rest of that season, which was
probably about eight nine games. Now this is week twelve,
so he's gonna miss that bare minimum, a bare minimum
another ten games.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
What the hell happened to my camera? You had like
you had like we put this around Brett Farr Peyton.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Come on that You talking about a guy that's been
He missed ten games his rookie season, if not more.
He's gonna miss ten games this season with his wrist injury.
He missed the probably another ten games. So he's missed
probably thirty games since he's been in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Right, I did. I didn't need you to detail all that,
O Joe. You know this. They gotta be available. Yeah, yeah, listen,
you're right, you are available? What good? What good is that? Man?
I had the best feet, man, I had the best
feet in the NFL. Yeah. But you played every other year? Yeah? Yeah,
(14:00):
you ready, You're right? But what you played every Sunday?
I did? I did? I did? Hey Joe, Hey, Joe,
you should have seen my feet Joey's thing right here, Joe. Ah, yeah,
I seen you cut a round too, the thing right here,
Joe Yeah. Hey them boy got a mind of the on?
Boy is it?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
We already know what gonna happen, though Joe Man had
one hundred and fifty yards two touchdown but they lost.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, that's a line. That's a line. Now, don't do that.
Don't do that. Long as you're saying, long at osho
got he is? He was cool? Noah, Noah, I ain't Joe.
I'm not saying that I did every.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
No, he wasn't happy about it. He just knew he was, Hey,
you hot. He knew I'm gonna get mine. Unfortunately, I'm
not in a situation where as a team we're good
enough to win more than we lose.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Joe, So I gotta do I gotta do my part, Joe.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
My grandma always told me baby, in life, you can
only do one thing. You can control what you can control,
and do your part. So Joe, I did my part. Actually,
as a team, I can't control the other ten people.
I can't control the eleven people that's on defense. But
I know what I can't control. I control me. I
(15:11):
can control them feet. They had a mine of their own. Hey, Joe,
I'm the only receiver. I'm the only receiver in the
history of the game. They didn't pay me to play receiver, Joe.
They paid me for my feet alone. I'm just saying.
I'm just being honest to you. It's in my contract.
If you look, I show you a copy of contract.
It states we are paying him individually on what he's
(15:34):
able to do with his feet.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
That's what they pay me.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
So you said. So, you're saying when the dB lined
up in front of you, he had no chance.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Let prefer who you man. The devil is a lot, Joe.
I ain't play that up there.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
You get a don't ever get too close to me
when we would have a conversation because I'm gonna talk
to you all the way.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Through the route. Huh. Yeah, Man, I ain't, Joe. I
ain't playing no game. Joe.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Hey, word age, Joe. He was he was in this
he was in this band. O. Joe can saying really
really good. But they ain't have no number one hits
because they wouldn't let him sing lead. So if they
let him saying lead, or they had more people like
oh Joe in the band, they would have been really,
really good. So in other words, he really needed to
(16:17):
play an individual sport where he just allowed himself, because
when you play football, you really gotta rely on the
ten guys on offense, the eleven guys on defense, and
the eleven on guy that they tried out there every
time on special team. Oh Joe did his thing, but
like he said, he can only do. He couldn't tackle nobody.
He couldn't get no picks, couldn't sack the quarterback. Hey, Joe,
(16:39):
we had we had then they didn't get They got
really good once they got they got caught.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Well, Kitna wasn't bad.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Kidner threw for four thousand, Kiddam wasn't no bad quarterback,
but they was bad enough that they got the They
gotta ended up getting Carson Palmer with the number one
overall pick, and then once Carson got in there, they
kind of took off from there.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, hey, Joey were good man. We listen, we had
we had some. We had some up some down.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Hold on let that look, I don't get I'm pat
you on the back now, Yeah I was pat you
on the back. I wasn't trying to be dust at
your clothes. You know what I'm saying, Joe, he wanted
me to be dust out of clothes. Now, damn, I
appreciate it. Just leave it at that, man O, Joe
was really good. Oh Joe did.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
All what nice? Now? You know I was a little
something now, a little something to watch that?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, hey Joe saying, you know, he Joe, I could
fill up a stadium by myself.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Joe, I was like, you you gonna put on his
shoulder now, Oh yeah, you're gonna get that.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You're gonna get that when I was playing home a way,
I'm gonna for your stadium up.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
See that's where I need to see. I need to be.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I need to be a couple of years, a couple
of years younger, because he'd been talking to him on
the sideline, talked it right out of the game.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
How you gonna take my script and try to use
it on me? Oh Joe, you do realize I was
talking for you was born? But do you know where
I'm from? Do you know where I'm from?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Do you understand we start in pee wee pee wee optimists?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
That talking started at four years old.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You wasn't doing that when you was fo you, when
you was in four, you was out there in the country,
you know, picking watermelon.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
You weren't talking like this. I came out to womb talking. Yea,
this is what I do.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Hey, Joe, I'm telling Joe the right environment, boy, I said,
talking right out of his game.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Joe, I'm saying you ain't never played against each other.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, hey Joe, Joe, he was younger than me. Hey,
don't matter, Joe. I spanked him when we played him.
Every time Joe I showed up to the party, brock
again that I was on Joe, you was on, you
was on the team.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
What you're talking about, Joe, we already say you had
thirty something yards, Ojoe.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
That's all. That's what you mean, That's all? Yeah, I mean,
because I I'm definitely saying I'm really not a thirty
yard receiving the.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Fact that I was a thirty when you and when
you scored against the Broncos, Joe, I mean, oh, Joe,
I was already out the game, the game was over.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
WHOA, do you know you're not finna do that?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh no, the devil is alive because you've been out
the game now for twenty some years and every time
the Broncon play.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
At I was when the game that you played when
I was with the Broncos and the game you scored on,
you scored with like twenty seconds the game was over.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I was on the bellis well.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Hold on, wait a minute, Joe, A un, Joe, I
think UNK might God amnesia, because if I if I
recall in two thousand and five against the Denver Broncos
Monday Night football, but I went crazy. If I'm not mistaken,
I retired.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I was in the boot. I was in I was
sitting at a desk.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
What does that have to do. You just said I
only scored against the Broncos decades. You just said I
only scored in the Broncos in the last thirty seconds.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
That's not what I recall. No, no, no, I said when
I was playing Shannon.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Okay, okay, with Shannon, I don't know what what you
did after I left. Yeah, but I'm saying I do
know you scored with like thirty five forty seconds left
in the ball game.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I done got my shoes off. I got on flip flops.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay, okay, it sounds I got on saund I got
on shower shoes on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I done cut my tape off and everything, and you
still in there.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Playing when you scored it. At the end, you were
still look it up, Hey, Joe looking up. I think
it was either two thousand and two, two thousand and three.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Joe. Look, Joe, I ain't gonna lie tell you.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I remember, like yesterday, he's calling, we don't beat the
were beating the brakes.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Off them, and then he got he's gonna try to celebrate.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I never a Joe. One thing I never do. I
was always self aware. I was always pull it up.
You heard me, Joe, you.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Were self aware with that one, because I don't know
why why I'm telling you know why you scored a
touchdown and want to celebrate.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I'm telling you how it was.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I never do that a Joe unless we unless we're
scoring first or I'm scoring to tie. I never celebrate
if it was scoring we were losing. Never never get that.
That's to me, that's a lack of self awareness. And
to me and myself, I look crazy because why the
hell am I celebrating? Is none to celebrate for, and
we're not winning the game or actually tying the game.
So that's something always kept.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
You wuldn't win the game with me. But you said, well,
whether oh three oh two. I'm trying to think it
might have been oh two.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Nah oh two. I gave y'all that work. That's all
I know. Oh three oh oh oh? Get it right, ass,
pull up the receipts?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Ass, when did all up? When did he score that touchdown? Did?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
When did he score that touchdown?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, Hey, hey Joe, you see you see ass put
out the receipt Joe boy, that business.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
But see what Hollo, this care was thirty to ten.
He o, this call was thirty to three. Kill the calories.
He did all that hard work. He got some cardio
in the first four and a half, three and a
half points.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I didn't you just heard say I would give you
y'all that work. You just heard ask give y'all that work.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You caught a twenty three yard touchdown. The score was
thirty to three. We just took our starts out. We
ain't getting nobody.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
No, the starts run out of the game. They weren't out
the game because which you're not gonna do. You're not
gonna put no backups on me, not no, no, you're
not no you're not I think the person, if I'm
not mistaken, that was coming me.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
He wore twenty four. He wore twenty four. That would
be the whole game. Who del to O'Neill? Nah no, no.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Champ wasn't there when I was there, old choke, Okay
him after I was gone?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Oh who was it? Who was it? It was Delta O'Neill.
Well he got that work too. Who ended up playing
with you in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
For and he got that work. Anybody with a two
and they number got that work for years.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Straight, except Revous, except Reeves.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I'm gona give this credit, I think if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Who who you giving credit to? Oh Reves? That's it.
That's it. And then listen, hey, Joe, No, no, no, no, no, no,
we didn't have Reavers. No I no, no, I'm just
saying I was telling Joe.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Anybody with a two as their first number got that
work for eleven twelve years straight.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Joe, I seen Revers.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Oh man, it was like a bad relationship that never
turned out right, you hear me?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
And how you get the Reavers out and couldn't get
off there? Huh?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Let me find out you was Gilligan I Hey, Joe,
I got Joe coming to rescue Gilligan.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Joe, I got stuff, Joe. I ain't have a passport
here in defense like that, Joe got me. Listen, hey Joe.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
He was nice. Joe, he was he was he was nice,
he were nice. He was nice.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I'm not gonna see him like I taugh. I talked,
I talked Cray, I talked cash ship. But one thing
I'm gonna do well when it comes defense, I'm gonna
get up with it.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Give him his credit. And every time I see him,
I give him fly. That year he had a year.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Man, Oh Joe. Everybody got it Joe. That two thousand
and nine seasons Joe.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That was.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
That was an historic run that will never be repeated,
never be Every week he traveled with number one. I
don't care a coach. I got it. Don't even worry
about this. And nobody, nobody will getting a hunted a
hunt shut down, shut down everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Johnson, Steve Smith, Andre Johns, nobody got over with fifty boy.
There's one person. There's one person who consistently was able
to give reasons that give Reeves that business and give
him problems. And that was Stevie Johnson, STEVEE. Johnson, Yeah,
played played in Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Hey, Joe.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Stevie was about six four and moved like he was
five feet tall.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I mean as far his ladder movement and is quick.
You had to be quick to give him problems.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You couldn't be a big receiver and be physical with
him because his then you had to be you had
to be twitchy.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
If you weren't twitchy, right, you got you had hell
on your hands if you weren't twitchy. The Browns quarterbacks, Wow,
the Browns quarterbacks are and seventeen and their first career
starts since the team rejoined the NFL. It just goes
back to nineteen ninety nine. Let that sink in. A
quarterback has never won their first NFL start in Cleveland
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going back to nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
So basically that's twenty seven years and that's that's crazy work.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Look at look at the names from Tim Couch to
Spurgeon Win, Tom Brady still mad about that, Spurson Win,
Luke McCown, Charlie Fried, Derek Anderson, Brady, Quinn, Cope, McCoy, Brandon, Whedon,
fad Lewis, Johnny Manzaiah Connorshaw, Cody Kessler, Deshaun Kaiser, Kevin Hogan,
Baker Mayfield, Drrian Thompson, Robinson, and Gabriel.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Hey, that's crazy ooe.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I think that's why maybe just maybe they just have
bad luck in general, maybe in just organizational bad luck
because to not have had a quarterback and to have
I mean, they've had some success.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
But it was short lived.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
It would short lived that they're still in search of
one that they can call their franchise quarterback. And that's
why they were so so eager to do what they
did with Deshaun Watson because look at what they had
to deal with for so long.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
This is what they had to deal with for so long.
That's why they were willing to throw whatever it.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Was at Deshaun Watson because you understood the success that
he had before. You know, those issues of roles, and
even after their roles, we still got a problems. We
know what we're getting.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
You see the problem with Ojo and O Joe. Look
at look at the years ninety nine they had. They
had had a starter two thousand, they had a different starter, four,
a different starter, five, a different starter, six, a different
start oh eight, a different.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
You see a real current theme. Moo, Joe. Yeah, man, Joe,
you see the real current theme. Yeah, no, continuity, you ain't.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You finna keep trotting quarterbacks out there year after year
and thank you gonna win.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Think about a twelve different quarterback, fourteen different quarterback, fourteen
different quarterback I mean somebody in the same season. Cody
Cassel seventeen, Deshaun Casser seventeen, Kevin Hogan eighteen, Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Also not crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And you know what else too, Joe and uncle, not
only different quarterbacks, different head coaches, different officer coordinators, different plays,
having to continue to learn something new with learning new
system and not getting like Ung said, any continuity.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
You know, as an offense, this is what happens. This
is what happens.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
It's always something new, so no one's ever to get acclimated.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
And comfortable to one thing. And this is what it
will always look like. Turmoil.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Hey, hey, I agree. You can't cheet chemistry continuity, man,
you can't cheat that. You know what I mean if
you're coming in every year with a different quarterback or
a different oc, a different head coach, I.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Mean, different system.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah, it's it's it's a different system, so it's hard
to catch rhythm and time and you know that that
stuff takes a while. But I can see why it
ain't no, ain't no quarterback, wan no won no game one.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, well, I know one thing, Schauder, he gets a
chance to start.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
This is the opportunity he's been waiting on. You know,
there's no there's no more the better team to start against.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Listen, you have a chance to make history. You have
a chance to make history and and and change the narrative,
you know. And if things go well, yeah, it's gonna
be good. If things don't go well, we're gonna let
it be known. We're gonna especially me. I've gotten really
good at this, Uncle Joe. I've gotten really good at being.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Critical when things, when people, when people aren't playing.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, yeah, you gotta, we gotta, we gotta talk about
what we see.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Yeah, I'm not sugar coat ship.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Well, if you go out there, if you go out
there and shut it up, you know, all excuses are
out the window. You had a week to prepare, you
had a week to get acclimated with the.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Offense, and you got and you're playing against the Raiders.
Damn yeah, just block ninety eight. If y'all make a mistake,
block ninety eight.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Hey, matter of fact, you can. You can double shit.
You can scheme him all game.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
You can scheme away to stop ninety eight all game,
chipp him, double him. Do whatever you need to do,
the gifts you do your time to be able to
do what he does best.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Throw the ball. Shouldn't be no goddamn excuses.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Because boy, they threw him in against him, the Raiders them,
boy fighting for their lives over there. Well, I think
the thing is then, plus he gets an opportunity. I
think the biggest thing joean O Joe. He gives an
opportunity to work with those guys, so he'll understand how
they get in and out of breaks. He'll understand, you know,
the tempo and the speed in which they run their rots,
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because that's something that you can't You need to be
in there to see. Because one guy he might take
a while, he might not get his head around. Ocho
was a guy that got his head around real quick.
So you know, a, I could put this ball out
before he come out of his break. I know it
soon Ocho snapping his head around.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Other guy.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
He's like, bro, the ball will hit you inside your
damn head and you don't get your head around. Now,
you gotta get in and out of those breaks. And
I thought he did threw the ball with some time.
And yeah, he missed some throws. There's a couple of
shallow crosses that he probably should have took. But he's
a guy that wants to push the ball down the field.
Their problem was they were unwilling to take chances. Gabriel
was unwilling to take chances and push the ball down
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the field. It's hard for you to methodically three yards here,
two yards there, five yards here, five yards, one yard.
It's hard to methodically go down the field and win
games without at some point in time, taking a chance
to put the ball down the field. It's just hard
to just do that every single down in and down out.
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They got to have some consistency. Obviously, they can't fall
behind and take the new and take the running game
completely away. But as long as they can keep the game,
I'm able to run some I can play action off
of that Ojo. Give him some stuff where I get
down flat. Hey, I get a flat route, I get
an over route. I get a comeback. You'll give him
stuff like that. Stuff that is gonna allow him to
get the ball out of out of his hands real
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quick at times.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
And there are other times that you're gonna have.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
To call plays specifically so he can push the ball
down the field right, And I think they'll they'll have
some success. Look what's it called, might might have another
four or five sack game. Miles Miles Garrett, Miles Garrett.
That offensive line and you see the offensive line, you
see what the Cowboys do. The Cowboys ain't got two
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players combined that as good as Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Let alone one. Yeah, you're right, and he.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Ate so I mean, uh, Quinny Williams had a sack
of the half.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Oh, Diggie Zooa had two. I meanbody getting it on
the action the magic Hey, you know what, And if
you think about it, as good as the defense is,
this just might be the game.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Just be the game where that where that that uh
oh and seventeen losing street for quarterbacks starting and the
first time it might be snapped. There's a good chance
to be if he protects the ball and knowing knowing
the defense, the defense gonna get the ball back for
him many of times on Sunday, it's a good chance.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Hey, hey, defense, the defense should create some great field
position for it. Yes, because Geno is primed Geno. Lately,
Geno's really high up on turning the ball over. And
I don't know if he's leading the league in intercession,
but he damn close.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Put it like this.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I don't know if he's leading the room about Joe,
but he at the table where the guy that's leading
an interception, Gino at the table having a conversation with it.
You know I'm right behind you. I'm probably gonna tie
you up this week. So don't get too comfortable hell
in that lead. Yeah, should George Schaudor just needs to
beat your door. Like I said, get the ball out
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of your hands and don't take listen, shudure. I understand,
like you know, you're looking to make the big play,
but it's okay to throw the ball out of bounds.
You're not gonna outrun. You weren't blessed with your dad's speed,
and he weren't, so that bellying back. You're not gonna
outrun these d ends. You're not. You're not all you're
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gonna do if you're a field goal range. You're gonna
take your team out of field goal range. Make it manageable.
Let it if you take a sack, take a sack
on second down, don't, Joe, Now you put yourself further
behind the sticks on third downs.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
They need to stay in front of the sticks.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And that's the thing that you want like young quarterbacks, Joe,
you want them to stay in front of the sticks.
You wanted second and five, second and six, you wanted
third and one to three, thirdy at the bare maximum,
third and five, you start getting third, eight to ten,
twelve thirteen.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
You asking for trouble, Yeah, asking for tru I believe
in man. I think he's gonna do.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
I think he's gonna do pretty well this weekend, considering,
you know, with him having a week with the ones, right,
the number ones, and he hadn't done that all. Yeah,
And I think he just he just a young confident dude.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I feel like he knows this is his moment, and
I feel like you're gonna step up and shine.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, he waited, Uh, he waited a long time, what
twelve weeks to get his opportunity. It didn't seem like
it was gonna come. Yeah, but you know, hey, now
the opportunity is here.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
My brother said, hey, man, I ain't get no run man,
I ain't get it. Hey, Johnnyl We're gonna call your
number now. Yeah, just make sure what he called your number?
You picked the phone up?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
You ready, you go? You ready? You go?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Okay. It took him twelve weeks for him to call
his line, call his number. She door, answer the phone. Yeah,
answer the phone.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
That's gonna be a good one. Uh. The door spoke
about getting first team reps.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I'm truly excited for that, knowing that I have a
piece of the offense to say so, and how things
fit my eye in place, and the players exactly where
they need to be, seeing how that come in and
out of route, seeing the structure of the old lineman,
seeing their set, just having a feeling. I'm more of
a field type of a person. So that's how I learned.
That's how I do everything. I'm not just a I'm
gonna watch it, it's just going to happen. No, I
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gotta be out there feeling. I gotta move around. I
like so many details that it takes for me to
feel my best and play my best. I'm doing everything
in my power, and this team's doing everything in their
power to help me get prepared. Yeah, oh yo, yeah,
what you think the stands, what you think is stant's
gonna be.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
You know what, I don't want to say. I don't
want to jinx it. I don't want to drink it.
I just don't want to Yeah, I don't want to
jink it.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I just know that Sisfanski understands what your door strengths
are gonna be. He's gonna he's gonna understand what Shador
does well. So the game plan going to that game
is going to be dedicated and geared towards what he's
able to do well. For one, that's getting the ball
out of the goddamn field, having a healthy balance of
being able to run the ball, so play action works
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as well when they do want to throw, and make
sure they do. They cannot, under any circumstances, be one dimensional.
They can't be one dimensional. So a healthy balance of
the run and healthy balance of the past, and once
that young bull get in the rhythm and get any
kind of confidence.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Joe Man, I think I think that comes with the
prep you know, throughout the week, you know, especially with
the ones getting that getting that under your belt. That's
gonna create a lot of confidence for the young boy man,
you know, going into the game. And I think that's
gonna help them unk Ojo.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
And the play call, the play call is gonna look
completely different because you got a quarterback that can do
something different than ye look completely different.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Yeah. Oh Joe, you remember, Joe, you remember your first start?
Oh Joe, what you remember about your first start?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
San Diego Chargers, Uh, San Diego Chargers in in San
Diego obviously when they had the baseball field, Rodney had
Roger Yeah, yep, Rodney Harrison junior se Ryan McNeill who
went to the w went to U M played defensive back.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
The YEP score.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I scored my first touchdown on Ryan McNeill in the
corner of the end zone and the scar is still
there because I landed on the on I don't I
don't know if it was third base a home plate, and.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Skinned up the infield.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, the infield and skinned up my whole My whole
arm is still there. It's still that's that's how deep.
That's how deep that cherry was. Yeah, that was that
was dope. That was my first That was my first start.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Joe, you remember your first start.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Yeah, my first start was obviously it was my rookie year.
It was second game of the season. I was playing
behind Eric Williams, who was the small four for the
Boss themselves at the time. Well, he had he entered
his knee in the first game. So second game of the season,
coaches like, we're gonna start you at the two. It
was against the Milwaukee Bucks with Ray Allen, Sam Cassell,
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big dog. Oh man, I came out there ahead of time. Man,
I put up about twenty three Okay, yeah, young rookie.
I wasn't but twenty years old out there.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
After they getting to it, you're man, you dropped little
twenty for the little little either twenty piece on them.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
What hey, look see are you need, especially when you're
young like that, is to see those type of performances
just to let you know, Okay, oh yeah, I'm right here.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
I can do this. Oh yeah. And next thing, you know, boy,
you be putting on the show for real. I like it. Man.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I just kept saying, man, man, they need to put
me in. They need to put me. I just say, oh, Joe, man,
he put me in. I can make some plays. I
can make some plays. Yeah, lord, bah, you're getting ready
to play the Chiefs. We get ready to play the Chiefs.
You Hey, the Chiefs got Aba Lewis, they got Kevin Ross,
they got Darn Cherry, they got Martin Baylor's. They got
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Neil Smith, Derrick Thomas, Damn Big Joe Phillips. Oh man,
they got Pursy Snow, Dann Salamore, Oh Joe. I say,
I said, put me in, not against them.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Back, that ain't them.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
They got a number one, they got like the number one,
number two defensive. So I'm like, yeah, we're gonna we're
gonna put you. We're gonna we're gonna start you, and
we're gonna put you in. I said, okay, I said,
so you know. I'm like, so what I'm gonna do?
So they say, hey, I want you to line up
outside and we get into the we get into the
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like five of in inside, the five of the inside,
We're gonna throw you a fade. I'm like, Adam Lewis
went to the Pro Bowl, Kevin Ross went to the
Pro Bowl. So you mean to tell me, y'all gonna
put a rookie in and say go run a fade?
Speaker 4 (39:53):
On one of them.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, just jump up on the top of it. Y'all
said that, like that's easy, Like, yeah, hold on, I
ain't no better. I was like, oh, oh, Joe, so
I hey, I told her brother, but you boy gonna
get the game.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
They gotta play for you. Boy.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Hey, they say jump ball, drop jump ball. You know
what I'm saying, Joe. Yeah, okay, Joe, I get out there.
They call it rock because he he was compact, but
he was strong. He got his hands on you. You
call him getting nothing. But anyway, they didn't They didn't
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expect me to shake him like I did. Yeah, because
they thought it was gonna be physical, and so just
throw a jump ball, Joe, how about I beat him
off the ball clean?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I said, Okay, he gonna live on the top. I
would cared that that I got him.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, he back showed it. Oh Joe, So I really
had to jump up over the top of up to
get it. I said, you get it, I got it it.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
I caught it here.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Hey, Hey, I walk into the Oh Joe, Joe, I'm
walk into the line. I said, Lord, if you help
me catch this ball, you ain't gonna let me catch
no more.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
My whole career. I don't make problem. Hey he listen, hey, hey,
because ain't nothing.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I caught it on.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I caught it on. I caught it on, yoe.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
And from that that gave me the confidence because I
beat the pro bowler for my very first touchdown. So
that gave me the confidence that I belonged. And I'm like,
and I remember getting back and I remember going to
the side because everybody, everybody came and like, man, make good.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Job good, that's what it makes a play and seven
John Toba said, see, that's like you you can do that.
I can do that. Yeah, I can do that. Yeah,
that thing out. I don't know why y'all surprised. I
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tried to play. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Oh yo, hey, I was so good as hey, get
in there for they throw me a short cross, got
hit me in the back.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
I fumbled it. I don't. I know, I can't have
no prosperity. I don't.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
But then they put me back here. They put me
back here and say, you just got to hold on
to the ball. They uh, it's gonna happen quick. Oh yo,
I run now, I run a gold ball against cover two.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I'm talking about like soon as the ball hit my hands,
hit me in the back. I held on to it though, Okay,
I held on to it though Joe had the ball
and through it. Yeah. That was That was like, man,
I really, I really And come to find out, I
go back and listen to the the TV version of
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it and they and uh, the the announcments said coach Rees,
is really how this kid think?
Speaker 4 (43:00):
This kid has a lot of potential. Yeah, oh I
got potential. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
One thing, hey, Joe, I mean Joe and uncle and
those in the chat that have played sports. One thing
about it, when you're not sure yourself, you know, and
even if you are confident, and you go out there
and you perform well and whatever it is that you do, whatever,
whatever your respective craft may be, and you you make
a play or you do something good, and then you
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you do it again and you start to build that confidence.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Once you got confidence, it's a rap.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
It's a rap in that point on, and you just
stack them one on top of another, and as some
at some point it just becomes it becomes natural, it
becomes consistent.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Oh yeah, hey, look as a rookie, man, you play
so hard, bro, I'm talking about it so hard. Because listen,
I just remember being out there on the court thinking like, man,
I'm out here with playing against Michael You and Tracy
McGrady and start I'm playing with Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce.
Like I remember being in so much of awe that
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I was like, I'm telling y'all, bro, I couldn't really
sleep as a rookie, like I used to be so
geek for the moment, like I couldn't wait.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
I couldn't wait.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
So you just wanted to play hardest crap because I
never wanted coach to have a reason to take me
out the game.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
I don't care what it was.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
I was out there playing hard as I don't know it,
trying to get as many deflections as I can't hands.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
Anyway, that's funny, hey.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
It's just like when you see man. I remember the
first time we played in Denver was a preseason game.
We played the forty nine ers O Montana, Steve Young.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Jerr Rice Oh, Roger, Craig John, all them. Just I
was like, damn, I'm really on the field. I really
be Damn, Jerry, I'm looking at Jared like, yeah, yo,
that's right A lot.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, I caught a touchdown on in the preseason, oh Joe,
and then hit the ham on them.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah, hold on, you were dancing in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
And the boy look here, I'm from an AGBCU. I
just call a touchdown on the depending Super Bowl chair.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
Man I was. I would Floyd crazy, Yeah, man, I was, Man,
I was.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
And it was televised. It was a Monday night game.
It was televised, old joke. Oh they saw me. Everybody
in Savannah State, they why know they watching my hometown
gun Mill.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
They watching a man. I told y'all, id no sharp, man,
I told y'all sharp like that.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Man, I bet.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
I was so happy, man I call it.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I bet my my cell phone bill probably seven hundred dollars,
cause you know, back then cell phone bill they charged
you by the minute.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
It was like a minute jokes. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
it was like three fold all of a minute. I
mean a phone bill.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
He quick high that I had that big old brick too.
I don't know why I had a brick, bro. I
was a seventh round draft pick, Nigga sixty four thousand.
I got a cell phone.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Ba oh yeah, the Motorola, the Motorola ate something about.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, that had that big brick. Yeah, it had to
be brick. They had the one that you had to
you had to pouch, you had to carry, you had
to carry with it.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
Yeah that getting on your person, you could get hit it. Yeah.
And then they came with the portable. What Joe, what
was it was? It was it free on the weekends.
I came later. At first it wasn't like that you
had to pay, and it was all like, if you
go out of the area, it was Roman Roman charging. Yeah, man,
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the Roman charging. Man, that thing be about be crazy.
I ain't know. Let me tell you, I didn't know
nothing about the Roman charge.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
I just ate he's plaining it to you back then,
Oh Joe, they don't explain it to you now that
this is what you get and if you go over
your out of you gotta pay.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
They didn't explain it the phone. This is what it calls.
Blah blah blah. I ain't know nothing about Roman. I
ain't know.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
If you go out of the thing roaming with extra
like six dollars, or you get a call, I'm big balling,
Oh Joe, I take it my phone on the road.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
You got got money? What hey, listen, I forgot I forgot.
I forgot, uh what service provide money? Yeah, I forgot
what service provider? I was with Joe and uncle, but
I understood that what I was with you. I had
him explain to me about the minutes, and they said,
if if you was a certain amount of minutes and
you hold on to it and don't use your phone
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that much this month, the minute's gonna.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
Roll over, and they roll over, roll over to the
next month.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
I say, yeah, yeah, so I'm gonna make sure I
don't go over a certain amount of minutes. So I
got a little bit extra going to the next month. Joe,
but hey, there was some days back then.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Boy, it don't work like that. Birth through the minutes
so quick? Quick?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Man? What you birth through the minutes so quick? And
then what if they brought that week ind uh? After
after seven o'clock and weekend free? Hey, I called a
I call y'all to sell more five. You't get no
call during today.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
On the on the phone, on the phone all night,
I call you, what is free? And then the weekend
you burn that thing up? Hey, Hey, to that thing
get hot on the side of your Yeah you got
oh yeah, hold on and Joe, Hey, Joe, and he
don't have no girlfriend. Though.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
On the weekend, y'all be on the phone. You be
on the phone all day, all night. Hold on you
wake up the phone sitting on your chest. Hello, are
you you're still there?
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Yeah? The whole a boy and it was some day. Hey, Joe,
I know you did that. You ain't gonna lie. Come
on now, hey, on the phone all night long. Ain't
don't be talking about nothing. Ain't talking about nothing, six
seven hours straight.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
They made the phone this phones got smaller and they
had a little clip that you have on your on
your side like that Star Tech.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Yeah, in the Sidekick too. Yeah, man, yeah, some good memory.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Let me ask you this, Joe Ojo, which game do
you think will have the most views? Brown's Raiders or Eagles, Cowboys?
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Brown Raiders? Probably Browns Raiders. I mean, listen, a lot
of people, man, it's a lot of people looking forward
to seeing you do play. They are.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
It's in the early window, so they're not going head
to they're not really going head to head because of
the Fox, the Fox game, the Cowboys Eagles. I think
if I'm not mistaking twenty five right, and so what
is in that first that one O five window, so
all of all the cowboys. Man, Hey, did you see
all those cowboy fans Monday night at that stadium?
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Oh? Jo Yo, yeah I did. Did you see all
those cowboy fans?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
I flew out, We flew out, Jordan, I flew out
on Tuesday morning, Joe, Oh, Joe. I was like, hold on,
they fans weren't going to Dallas. They flying to Atlanta.
So I can just imagine the people going back to Dallas.
I can imagine the people going elsewhere because there were
so many cowboy fans in that in that airport, so
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many cowboy fans. I'm talking about cowboy hats, cowboy boots,
that Jersey CD Jersey. I'm like, oh my goodness, yeah,
people traveling, man travel the still Cowboys. They're both in
the lake. Oh, actually they're both. They moved them. The
coach Chief is in the early window. So the coach
(50:35):
Chief is the one o'clock game. And now the are
the Browns, Raiders and the Cowboys Eagle are both in
the same in the same four to twenty five with them.
It's gonna be interested.
Speaker 4 (50:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (50:46):
I still, I still think the Browns and Raiders gonna
have the most views and the way they do that.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
See, you can't get what you call them like like
sometimes you can have their have Okay, you can watch
this game, this game, this game, this game. They're not
finna do it with these two games you got. Hey,
look why it is so hard to what's the game?
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Now? Man? You got to download eight apps? You shouldn't do.
Guess what, Joe, guess what with that new contract? Come up?
Speaker 2 (51:13):
You have a dinload some more? Yeah, Netflix, but now
net Flix go don't want a package. That's how they
get it. That that's how these French you see all
these franchises, how they skyrocketing prices.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
I mean Broncos only just he just bought the Broncos
for four and a half million.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Now they worked six point eight billion five six years,
they've increased two point three billion dollars. The Cowboys worked
what level twelve thirteen billion? Jerry Bardy for one hundred
and thirty five hundred and forty million. Hey, that's why
because the revenue there's nothing. Look, there are a lot
of sports, there's baseball, there's basketball, but don't nothing move
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the needle in North America, like like NFL football.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
Man for love from football.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
And that's two reasons fantasy in sports betty h because
you watching intently, are they gonna cover O?
Speaker 4 (52:11):
Joe?
Speaker 2 (52:11):
And then now the prop bet man, Sometimes you don't
even care about the game, and I just want to
see a CD get six catches.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
I didn't want to see get set by. I want
to see what chase.
Speaker 5 (52:25):
Hey, that's what I had. That's what I care about.
I don't I try to get these props. Hey, look, Ojoe.
That's why I have to stop betting. I can't watch
the game in peace because I got I got my
I'm trying to hit.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
I'm like man, and looks like when you watching it
intensively like that, you ain't never gonna hit. But boy,
let you mess around, make a bet and end up
falling asleep or something. Be right on the number. Every
time I had to stop watching. That's how they do
when you played.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
When you play the cast three of the cast, Hey,
I know you happy, happy about what? I know you happy.
I know you know your birthday came. I said, what
what birthday that was? My sister called me, tell me, yeah,
I know you had probably had it. I said, had
what your birthday? I said, huh my birthday hit at
(53:14):
O six two six cash fok, I have you know
what I'm saying, don't you had it straight and straight box? Yeah,
a little cool, A little cool, twelve fives and five
hundred full twelve out of five hundred.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
I hear.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
Then the cast through my aunt's birthday seven eleven. Yeah,
I played it. I had it ten times straight it came.
That's five thousand.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
They tried to run it back past me, Joe the
next day, because I played it that evening on Sunday
and I played again, Brooke, and I said, you know what,
y'all mak y'all, slip y'all gonna try to run it
back again. Hey, guess what they came It brought it
right back, brought it right back, Joe. And guess what
I was sitting on it again? Another five thousand, Yeah, Joe,
they can't get on about it.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
Hey, matter of fact, you know what I'm gonna do
that now. You just gave me an idea.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
You know, I'm play my grandma and my mama birthdays. Yeah,
Grandma and my mama birthdays probably played you know, maybe dude,
dude the year they were born.
Speaker 4 (54:09):
Yeah, I'm gonna go play out.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
I don't that's that's normally what it. Yes, that's normally
what I do. You play your birth If you played it,
you could play it straight, combo straight box, I played
I played it. I played it straight. I had it
two times straight at one time. Combo combo back combo
probably cost you two dollars because it's extra because now
anywhere it comes, those numbers come. It could come six six,
two zero, it can come six six oh to any
(54:32):
combination and you'll get you know, half of what you
normally would get. So oh yeah, I will, I'll hit it.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
I hit a lick on it. Oh.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Joe Bill's wide receiver Keon Coleman, is reportedly likely to
be inactive for the second consecutive game. Keon is expected
to sit Tomorrow's against Texans, according to Eric Turner of
Cover One. Earlier in the week, ko Shan McDermott said
he needs to see Keon show growth to get back
on the field on Thursday night against the Texans, the
(55:00):
Bills are likely to go with Joshua Palmer, Elijah Moore,
Tyrell Shavers, Khalil Shakir and Gabe Davis as active.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
Hey, listen, they going with the veterans. They're going with
the veterans and listen.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Obviously, as a rookie, you know you want to come
in and make your impact, but they have players that
are a little bit more impactful, a little bit more
impactful than you are, and bring a little a little
bit more to the table than you do. So you know, obviously,
I mean, at this point we're going in the week twelve,
week thirteen, whatever it may be. I mean, it's already
(55:33):
set in stone. I mean, anything that you could have
shown or proved that you could do, you haven't done
it today, which is why they're comfortable making you inactive,
showing you that we can get the job done without you,
especially as productive as they were offensively last week without you.
Speaker 4 (55:48):
Hell, you know that we don't need to be have
a great story, old, I got a great story to
tell you.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
And Joe, oh yeah, we had what five six touchdowns
and you didn't play, so whatever.
Speaker 4 (55:58):
But what's the point at this point? Six seventeen yards? Yeah? Hey,
so hey, you know what that means to me? All
it says is Keon Coleman, young boy, I know you're
gonna see this.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
You know how I love you to death. We talk
all the time. Come on down, here with me in
the off season. Come on down here with me the
off seaton. I guarantee you they'll never sit you down again, even.
Speaker 4 (56:19):
If you do miss a meeting.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
He'll be too valuable for them and what you bring
to the table on a Sunday for the to sit
you down. Come on down here, work with your boy now.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
I remember my rookie season, Dennis Smith, number forty nine,
Oh Joe.
Speaker 4 (56:36):
We call him Kahunah.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
And Kahuna I mean he's one of the guys that
from the time I got there, he always I don't
know what it was, but the veteran players, a lot
of the veteran players that were really good took a
liking to me him h L Way. I mean, I
mean veteran players. Huna got there in eighty one, John
got there officely in eighty three with the trade through Baltimore.
But they the best took a liking to me, and
(57:00):
I remember him saying, sharp, never let them see they
can win without you, Ojo. That's why I shot up
a lot of times because I didn't want my backup
to get in. And then all of a sudden he
played well, and then all of a sudden they figured
they can move on from me. So that was also
another reason that I shot up. But I'll never forget
him saying that. He said sharp, never let them see
(57:22):
that they can win without you. If you notice who
adopts that quarterbacks, Brady take every rep. Peyton Manning took
every rep, Brett Fahr took every rep, Drew Brees took
every rep. You not fin to see if that guy
can play or he can't play, because I'm never gonna
give you an opportunity to let you see if he
can play. You just got to go on your instinct
because I ain't coming out of there. See what Keon
(57:44):
Coleman did. He allowed them to let Terrell Shavers get
on the field show we can win without him. Now,
once they find out they can win without you, guess
what they'll do, Ojo win without you and they'll move on. Now,
the coach says, I need to see growth. We having
a conversation about a guy in the second year that
shows growth. Now, I'm gonna tell you got a great personality. Hey,
(58:09):
but after a while you were gonna start they were
gonna be laughing at you. You're talking about Guess what
the jacket guess why I got the jacket pro I'm
gonna go back against It's funny, kiki ki, But at
the end of the day, you better be putting some
points on the board. You better be get some yards,
You better be get some catches, you better get some
some sacks of interceptions. You better do something other than
make them laugh, because they're gonna say you need to
(58:30):
go to the mprov. You need to be at the
laugh factory because the football fiel ain't where you need
to be. Right at the end of the day, as
my good friend Glow said, that, they gonna end, and
when it ends, you better have catches, yards and touchdowns.
If you play on the officers side of football as
a skill position player and they're not playing, they ay, Ojo,
(58:51):
it's too much money involved, because before you know it,
they're gonna have to make an investment twenty twenty five
thirty thirty five forty million dollars and said, hold on,
you doing this and you're on your rookie contract. What's
gonna happen? We give you thirty million, O Joe.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
You got to be special. They got to be something
about you, Joe. They got to be something about you
as a receiver that separates you. Everybody play receiver, everybody
can run, everybody can catch. What is it about you
that makes you that much more valuable and better than
the next man. It got to be one thing. He
ain't got to be a bunch. You got to be
one thing that separates you from everybody else.
Speaker 4 (59:29):
Hey, uncle Joe.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
You know on every on every NFL team, there's a
number one receiver and there's a number two receiver.
Speaker 4 (59:36):
There's something about that number one receiver that the number
two can't do. Whatever it may be.
Speaker 1 (59:40):
They both play the same position, but one is a
little better than the other. You have to find that
one niche It got just just one, Joe, that's it.
That's all it takes, and they got to find it.
His personality is so big, it's so big if we
can get his game on the field to match his personality.
Speaker 4 (59:58):
Though, Oh my god, hey Joe, I'm talking about it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
It's two players I want to work with so bad, Joe,
so bad, because I know if I can get them
anywhere close to how their personality is in front of
that camera.
Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Off the field, they we talk about all world. We
talk about all world.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
They can be in a conversation of top five based
on if they can get their skill set up the
part of the mess they personality.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Coleman is one.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
The other one is Exavier Legged. Hey listen them boys,
elect them boys electric when that cameras in front of them. Bro,
if I if I can get that game to match
their personality?
Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
Man, okay Ocho. I like Kean Coleman, and uh, this
could be a wake up call for him, you know,
for for him to be a healthy scratch again, like
you know, you know what could potentially be coming next
down the pipe. Man, This should this should make him
really look at himself in the mirror and get the
work and be like, man, when I get back out there,
(01:00:51):
I got to get them boys.
Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Hell, you know what I mean. So yeah, I'm hoping.
Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
I'm hoping he takes some good from this, bro, because
I seen him over there dancing and all that when
he knew he was out.
Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
But hey, look that hurt me. Man.
Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
I tell my son who in college? I say, Bro,
they watching you even when you don't think they're watching you. Boy,
they watching you. Yeah, they watching you. So you sit
over there in more power and do all that watching man.
Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
We've all been here.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
The longer you go without something, the easier it is
to be without something. The longer they play without Kean
in that lineup, the easy it becomes to them to
play without him in the lineup. Give you prime example.
You saw they say CD and and and and pick
went out. Now, if that's the third, fourth, and fifth receiver,
they're not even playing right. But that's the one and
(01:01:46):
two receiver. They missed a series. You see the difference.
Jimmy Johnson say, Jimmy Johnson cut a guy for sleeping
in the meeting. The reporter said, with Jimmy, if that
was Troy and he was sleeping the meeting, what would
you have done? He said, howa woke his ass up?
One guy get cut, the other guy get the other
guy get get woken up the ass Mike, what back?
Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
You? You say you lead the players if they're not there, Well,
what if it's a what if it's TV, what if
it's sharp, what if it's a way? Well, that's the
one thing about charging the flight.
Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
They'll wait on you. We're gonna wait.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
But you you understand the level of importance by some
of the things that you can get away with. But
I'm gonna be on time because I need to be
on the back of the plane to make sure when
everybody else get on, I see what they're wearing so
I can cut their ass up when they got on
the bullet jove, And that's what my job was on Joe,
get to the plane early so I can see what
you got on. You know, if you got on bus too,
(01:02:41):
that's what shark was. That's what them, That's where them jonings,
them Joners work. It was coming out if you got
on some bull hive. Don't you get on bus too.
We had coaches getting on our bus. Man, I just
want to see what eighty folk are gonna say about
what such and such got on up to the right place.
Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
His ass up.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
But key on, don't you don't don't you don't you
let us cutch you don't you give us a reason
to cutch you. Yeah, they will, or you understand. There's
a guy in college right now, won't key on coban spot.
There's a guy in high school want to be a
starting receiver, want to be a receiver on the Buffalo
Bills at high school. Bro ain't got his head down
(01:03:22):
working d y'all this ain't no this ain't no doctor,
no lawyer. You don't get no thirty your career in
the NFL. They replaced every year to turnover. That's why
the average NFL career is two point three years. Even
when you get a guy like Aaron Rodgers, they got
twenty seasons. Even you got a guy like Marcedes Lewis,
they got twenty seasons in fifteen and eighteen.
Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
The average NFL career is two point three years. That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
So how many guys in order for that twenty and
eighteen and fifteen ojo to drag it down to two
point three That means a lot of guys playing one
year or not even play it at all at all.
Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
Absolutely, Hey, look at it. Look look look at the NBA.
It's four hundred and fifty guys every year, now just
this year, not last year, every year. So if they
got fifty new guys coming in every year, guess what
they gotta have at least fifty going out. Fifty guys
gotta go. It's four hundred and fifty guys. It's only
four hundred and fifty guys every year.
Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Hey, that's why you gotta stay on top of your game.
That's why you gotta continuously train. That's it, and don't
give them a reason to gotta get better.
Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Yeah,
Stetts.
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Speaker 4 (04:33):
The chat first topic.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Joe Burrow made huge steps in his recovery journey on
Wednesday by being named a full participant in Bengals team practice.
Excuse me, this is the first time that he's gotten
the designation since he suffered a turf toe injury in
Week two.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Joe would need to.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Be activated by December first from the injury reserve to
have any chance to play again this season. Oh, Joe,
your Bengals are three and sent, Yes, sir, three and seven. Yeah,
only seven games to go.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
If there are scenario which you see if the if
the Bengals were to lose Sunday, Yes, sir, if there's
a scenario where you see Joe being activated, because if
he's not activated by junior me December, per Yes, that
means he can't I mean basically, he can't come off
and he'd be on there for the rest of the season.
Do you see a scenario where you guys lose this
game and him come off injury reserve.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, honestly, I think regardless there is really no scenario
in this matter or in.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
This case, whether we win or whether we lose.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Joe Burrow being the competitor that he is, he would
probably override any suggestions that he gets some doctors, uh,
anyone that sits in positions of power in that uh,
in that in that front office, and he's coming back
to playing whether we lose it or not. I just
knowing Joe Burrow, the type of player he is, the
type of competitor is whether we have a chance to
(05:56):
to get to the playoffs or he could have want
to finish the season off wrong and and and and
make some of with a statement to show that he
can still stay upright. He can, he can still be healthy,
you know, regardless of circumstances, whether we're going to the
playoffs or not.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
So you just you're just looking forward to them getting
back out there on the field. You don't, you ain't
really you don't really think y'all gonna make no playoffs?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Hey, Joe, Joe, Honestly, right now, I haven't really really
thought of the scenarios or the possibility of us making
the playoffs at three or seven. I think it's very
very difficult Joe. Honestly, I think it's very difficult. But
for me, I would love for Joe to come back,
not even playoff scenario, but just the finish the season
off strong. Finish the season off strong, getting you know,
(06:45):
get in there and do what you can.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Strong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, from hold on, let
me finish.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm not talking about I'm not talking about from a
team standpoint of this point, when you're three and seven.
I'm just saying individually, all players need to finish the
season off strong from an individual standpoint, so they feel
a little bitter about themselves going into next year, regardless
of whether we we did well or we whether we
did well or we didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
As a teamage well, ain't no regardless, ain't no area right, regardless,
you have to use regardless, regardless.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I said, I said, or regardless. Yeah, y'all were terrible
this year.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah, we were terrible. Finish out on no
good note.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Okay, I said.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
That's why I said individually, That's why the first thing
I said, even if even if we lose.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
What we won't, which we probably won't.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You gone to lose, Take the ill f out, Take
the illf out. First of all, y'all was losing with Chase.
Y'all losing with Chase. Yeah, he gone, Okay, now let's
try again.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Like I said, someone someone who has a little optimism, Joe,
I'm talking, Joe, I'm gonna talk to you. I got
I'm a little optimistic. Ain't no telling what's gonna happen.
I know Chase is not playing this game.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
We got eleven weeks. You know what's gonna happen, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I Hey Joe, I don't I don't like I don't
like the way uncle's treat my bank.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Hey O, Joe, I think y'all just need to let
you know what. I just want to take my last bike.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Take the last bike, take the las, take your time talking.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I want to go ahead. Finished against some food on
my stuff because I've been hungry. I had a couple
of events I had to go to that I will
get my laugh, my laugh.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Right now, taking time me and Joe, got me and
Joe anyway, Joe, like I was saying, listen from individ
from an individual standpoint, Joe, knowing how Burrow is, knowing
the competitor that he is, he's a liar, Hey, Joe,
he's coming back to play, Joe regard regards to how
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we're doing that.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
But sometimes you know we can get now on way.
Now you know the man been bogged down with and
you know that tod On Lingo Bro.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I know that, Joe. I know I Joe. I know
one thing.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
If Joe, if Burrow ain't feeling one hundred percent, he
not taking his ass out there on that field.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Well then he ain't gonna play it. It ain't no
way here that toad gonna be one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Man.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
You listen, Yeah, let the man, Let the man heal up,
and then y'all get another crank at the next year.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
If it don't happen next year with you, you gotta
blow that thing up.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Okay, Okay, I mean I like that, Joe, but I
me me honestly, if Joe feels good and knowing knowing
how he is, he's sitting on that sideline, Joe, if
if he can go and then think about it, eighty
eighty five, eighty seven, even in ninety percent, Joe Burrow
it is better than half the goddamn league.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
It's better than half the league out there, even horble.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So I would like to see I would like to
see him go, honestly, just to finish it off strongest,
just so you feel good about yourself in your head.
And when in the back of your head it's like, well, god, damn,
I haven't been hurt three out of six seasons, you know,
and it ain't ain't been able to contribute to help
my team out, man ship knowing him.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Man, I'm finishing this, I'm finishing off.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Hey, look, I'm sure he probably does want to get
back up. I mean he's making a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, oh yeah, okay, but uh Ojo.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Sometimes man, you know you gotta get in guys, wait
man and just tell him, Hey, look, we understand. Yeah,
we know you want to play. Yeah, but you probably
need to situateated this season. Now we can get you
right going in the next season. Hey, man, you just
playing football just to be finishing the season and they
main't get hurt again.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Now come on now, Yeah, I mean, you're right, I'm
trying to help y'all, trying to Joe Joe, you right,
But I'm telling you how the individual is. He's an animal,
but he an animal, right, animal? I just I just
don't see any scenario where he can go sit down.
Especially he was a full participant in practice today. He
was a full participant in practice.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
See that thing feel like tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Unless Joe Burrow will come back of the combination of Miles,
Garrett and Taylor, y'all ain't going nowhere. I don't give
damn buddy, come back here.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
And we understand that part Joe, Miles.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Garrett, and Lawrence Taylor a little big. The deon Sanders
array lewis in there. So one of them he's gonna.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Be right, I mean, neither one, neither one.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
But that day you have to understand that. That's not
the part we talk about. You got to understand the
type of individual Joe is. You got to understand, Okay,
you don't.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Become the number one overall pick without being a competitor
and that's but you also don't become somebody without being realistic.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, man, I understand that, Joe. I mean, have you
seen your defense.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, that man ain't thinking about none of that. That
man ain't thinking about none of that. That man is
thinking about getting on that field, getting back healthy and
trying to contribute and finish the season off on a
high note for him in the village, so he feels
better about himself going into the off season. I'm telling
you how you think, and I know it because if
he wasn't, it wouldn't be no.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
No goddamn reason to be a god damn price of today.
He Joe, he was, Joe. We got something showing for you.
What's that? What they bringing the man? Look at? Look
at they're bringing him back? Joe? Is that bubble rup
got y'all? Why y'all disrespect him a quarterback? Now, don't know?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Hold on, hold on, well you over there laughing, he
bet he better than h BO next down there in
Denver right now.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
And he ain't even and and Joe ain't even not
debating his skill set.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
We're not debating how good he actually because excuse me,
we know he's great.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
We're not debating that. I know, I know, But but
hold on. The jokes just.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Flying and he here and the ha ha and like
like he ain't that boy?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Don't you don't think that fit? You just said the
man been hurt three of the six years.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I'm just speaking facts on his first year, he got hurt.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
The next year he went through then he went to
the DIN, he went to a Super Bowl, then he
got his wrist hurt.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Now he done missed.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
He missed the entire rest of that season, which was
probably about eight nine games. Now this is week twelve,
so he's gonna miss that bare minimum, a bare minimum
another ten games.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
What the hell happened to my camera? You had like
you had like we put this around Brett Farr Peyton.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Come on that You talking about a guy that's been
He missed ten games his rookie season, if not more.
He's gonna miss ten games this season with his wrist injury.
He missed the probably another ten games. So he's missed
probably thirty games since he's been in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Right, I did. I didn't need you to detail all that,
O Joe. You know this. They gotta be available. Yeah, yeah, listen,
you're right, you are available? What good? What good is that? Man?
I had the best feet, man, I had the best
feet in the NFL. Yeah. But you played every other year? Yeah? Yeah,
(14:00):
you ready, You're right? But what you played every Sunday?
I did? I did? I did? Hey Joe, Hey, Joe,
you should have seen my feet Joey's thing right here, Joe. Ah, yeah,
I seen you cut a round too, the thing right here,
Joe Yeah. Hey them boy got a mind of the on?
Boy is it?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
We already know what gonna happen, though Joe Man had
one hundred and fifty yards two touchdown but they lost.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, that's a line. That's a line. Now, don't do that.
Don't do that. Long as you're saying, long at osho
got he is? He was cool? Noah, Noah, I ain't Joe.
I'm not saying that I did every.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
No, he wasn't happy about it. He just knew he was, Hey,
you hot. He knew I'm gonna get mine. Unfortunately, I'm
not in a situation where as a team we're good
enough to win more than we lose.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Joe, So I gotta do I gotta do my part, Joe.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
My grandma always told me baby, in life, you can
only do one thing. You can control what you can control,
and do your part. So Joe, I did my part. Actually,
as a team, I can't control the other ten people.
I can't control the eleven people that's on defense. But
I know what I can't control. I control me. I
(15:11):
can control them feet. They had a mine of their own. Hey, Joe,
I'm the only receiver. I'm the only receiver in the
history of the game. They didn't pay me to play receiver, Joe.
They paid me for my feet alone. I'm just saying.
I'm just being honest to you. It's in my contract.
If you look, I show you a copy of contract.
It states we are paying him individually on what he's
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able to do with his feet.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
That's what they pay me.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
So you said. So, you're saying when the dB lined
up in front of you, he had no chance.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Let prefer who you man. The devil is a lot, Joe.
I ain't play that up there.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
You get a don't ever get too close to me
when we would have a conversation because I'm gonna talk
to you all the way.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Through the route. Huh. Yeah, Man, I ain't, Joe. I
ain't playing no game. Joe.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Hey, word age, Joe. He was he was in this
he was in this band. O. Joe can saying really
really good. But they ain't have no number one hits
because they wouldn't let him sing lead. So if they
let him saying lead, or they had more people like
oh Joe in the band, they would have been really,
really good. So in other words, he really needed to
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play an individual sport where he just allowed himself, because
when you play football, you really gotta rely on the
ten guys on offense, the eleven guys on defense, and
the eleven on guy that they tried out there every
time on special team. Oh Joe did his thing, but
like he said, he can only do. He couldn't tackle nobody.
He couldn't get no picks, couldn't sack the quarterback. Hey, Joe,
(16:39):
we had we had then they didn't get They got
really good once they got they got caught.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Well, Kitna wasn't bad.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Kidner threw for four thousand, Kiddam wasn't no bad quarterback,
but they was bad enough that they got the They
gotta ended up getting Carson Palmer with the number one
overall pick, and then once Carson got in there, they
kind of took off from there.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, hey, Joey were good man. We listen, we had
we had some. We had some up some down.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Hold on let that look, I don't get I'm pat
you on the back now, Yeah I was pat you
on the back. I wasn't trying to be dust at
your clothes. You know what I'm saying, Joe, he wanted
me to be dust out of clothes. Now, damn, I
appreciate it. Just leave it at that, man O, Joe
was really good. Oh Joe did.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
All what nice? Now? You know I was a little
something now, a little something to watch that?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, hey Joe saying, you know, he Joe, I could
fill up a stadium by myself.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Joe, I was like, you you gonna put on his
shoulder now, Oh yeah, you're gonna get that.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You're gonna get that when I was playing home a way,
I'm gonna for your stadium up.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
See that's where I need to see. I need to be.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I need to be a couple of years, a couple
of years younger, because he'd been talking to him on
the sideline, talked it right out of the game.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
How you gonna take my script and try to use
it on me? Oh Joe, you do realize I was
talking for you was born? But do you know where
I'm from? Do you know where I'm from?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Do you understand we start in pee wee pee wee optimists?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
That talking started at four years old.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You wasn't doing that when you was fo you, when
you was in four, you was out there in the country,
you know, picking watermelon.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
You weren't talking like this. I came out to womb talking. Yea,
this is what I do.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Hey, Joe, I'm telling Joe the right environment, boy, I said,
talking right out of his game.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Joe, I'm saying you ain't never played against each other.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, hey Joe, Joe, he was younger than me. Hey,
don't matter, Joe. I spanked him when we played him.
Every time Joe I showed up to the party, brock
again that I was on Joe, you was on, you
was on the team.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
What you're talking about, Joe, we already say you had
thirty something yards, Ojoe.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
That's all. That's what you mean, That's all? Yeah, I mean,
because I I'm definitely saying I'm really not a thirty
yard receiving the.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Fact that I was a thirty when you and when
you scored against the Broncos, Joe, I mean, oh, Joe,
I was already out the game, the game was over.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
WHOA, do you know you're not finna do that?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh no, the devil is alive because you've been out
the game now for twenty some years and every time
the Broncon play.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
At I was when the game that you played when
I was with the Broncos and the game you scored on,
you scored with like twenty seconds the game was over.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I was on the bellis well.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Hold on, wait a minute, Joe, A un, Joe, I
think UNK might God amnesia, because if I if I
recall in two thousand and five against the Denver Broncos
Monday Night football, but I went crazy. If I'm not mistaken,
I retired.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I was in the boot. I was in I was
sitting at a desk.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
What does that have to do. You just said I
only scored against the Broncos decades. You just said I
only scored in the Broncos in the last thirty seconds.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
That's not what I recall. No, no, no, I said when
I was playing Shannon.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Okay, okay, with Shannon, I don't know what what you
did after I left. Yeah, but I'm saying I do
know you scored with like thirty five forty seconds left
in the ball game.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I done got my shoes off. I got on flip flops.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay, okay, it sounds I got on saund I got
on shower shoes on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I done cut my tape off and everything, and you
still in there.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Playing when you scored it. At the end, you were
still look it up, Hey, Joe looking up. I think
it was either two thousand and two, two thousand and three.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Joe. Look, Joe, I ain't gonna lie tell you.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I remember, like yesterday, he's calling, we don't beat the
were beating the brakes.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Off them, and then he got he's gonna try to celebrate.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I never a Joe. One thing I never do. I
was always self aware. I was always pull it up.
You heard me, Joe, you.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Were self aware with that one, because I don't know
why why I'm telling you know why you scored a
touchdown and want to celebrate.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I'm telling you how it was.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I never do that a Joe unless we unless we're
scoring first or I'm scoring to tie. I never celebrate
if it was scoring we were losing. Never never get that.
That's to me, that's a lack of self awareness. And
to me and myself, I look crazy because why the
hell am I celebrating? Is none to celebrate for, and
we're not winning the game or actually tying the game.
So that's something always kept.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
You wuldn't win the game with me. But you said, well,
whether oh three oh two. I'm trying to think it
might have been oh two.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Nah oh two. I gave y'all that work. That's all
I know. Oh three oh oh oh? Get it right, ass,
pull up the receipts?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Ass, when did all up? When did he score that touchdown? Did?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
When did he score that touchdown?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, Hey, hey Joe, you see you see ass put
out the receipt Joe boy, that business.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
But see what Hollo, this care was thirty to ten.
He o, this call was thirty to three. Kill the calories.
He did all that hard work. He got some cardio
in the first four and a half, three and a
half points.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I didn't you just heard say I would give you
y'all that work. You just heard ask give y'all that work.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You caught a twenty three yard touchdown. The score was
thirty to three. We just took our starts out. We
ain't getting nobody.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
No, the starts run out of the game. They weren't out
the game because which you're not gonna do. You're not
gonna put no backups on me, not no, no, you're
not no you're not I think the person, if I'm
not mistaken, that was coming me.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
He wore twenty four. He wore twenty four. That would
be the whole game. Who del to O'Neill? Nah no, no.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Champ wasn't there when I was there, old choke, Okay
him after I was gone?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Oh who was it? Who was it? It was Delta O'Neill.
Well he got that work too. Who ended up playing
with you in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
For and he got that work. Anybody with a two
and they number got that work for years.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Straight, except Revous, except Reeves.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I'm gona give this credit, I think if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Who who you giving credit to? Oh Reves? That's it.
That's it. And then listen, hey, Joe, No, no, no, no, no, no,
we didn't have Reavers. No I no, no, I'm just
saying I was telling Joe.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Anybody with a two as their first number got that
work for eleven twelve years straight.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Joe, I seen Revers.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Oh man, it was like a bad relationship that never
turned out right, you hear me?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
And how you get the Reavers out and couldn't get
off there? Huh?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Let me find out you was Gilligan I Hey, Joe,
I got Joe coming to rescue Gilligan.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Joe, I got stuff, Joe. I ain't have a passport
here in defense like that, Joe got me. Listen, hey Joe.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
He was nice. Joe, he was he was he was nice,
he were nice. He was nice.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I'm not gonna see him like I taugh. I talked,
I talked Cray, I talked cash ship. But one thing
I'm gonna do well when it comes defense, I'm gonna
get up with it.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Give him his credit. And every time I see him,
I give him fly. That year he had a year.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Man, Oh Joe. Everybody got it Joe. That two thousand
and nine seasons Joe.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That was.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
That was an historic run that will never be repeated,
never be Every week he traveled with number one. I
don't care a coach. I got it. Don't even worry
about this. And nobody, nobody will getting a hunted a
hunt shut down, shut down everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Johnson, Steve Smith, Andre Johns, nobody got over with fifty boy.
There's one person. There's one person who consistently was able
to give reasons that give Reeves that business and give
him problems. And that was Stevie Johnson, STEVEE. Johnson, Yeah,
played played in Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Hey, Joe.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Stevie was about six four and moved like he was
five feet tall.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I mean as far his ladder movement and is quick.
You had to be quick to give him problems.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You couldn't be a big receiver and be physical with
him because his then you had to be you had
to be twitchy.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
If you weren't twitchy, right, you got you had hell
on your hands if you weren't twitchy. The Browns quarterbacks, Wow,
the Browns quarterbacks are and seventeen and their first career
starts since the team rejoined the NFL. It just goes
back to nineteen ninety nine. Let that sink in. A
quarterback has never won their first NFL start in Cleveland
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going back to nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
So basically that's twenty seven years and that's that's crazy work.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Look at look at the names from Tim Couch to
Spurgeon Win, Tom Brady still mad about that, Spurson Win,
Luke McCown, Charlie Fried, Derek Anderson, Brady, Quinn, Cope, McCoy, Brandon, Whedon,
fad Lewis, Johnny Manzaiah Connorshaw, Cody Kessler, Deshaun Kaiser, Kevin Hogan,
Baker Mayfield, Drrian Thompson, Robinson, and Gabriel.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Hey, that's crazy ooe.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I think that's why maybe just maybe they just have
bad luck in general, maybe in just organizational bad luck
because to not have had a quarterback and to have
I mean, they've had some success.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
But it was short lived.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
It would short lived that they're still in search of
one that they can call their franchise quarterback. And that's
why they were so so eager to do what they
did with Deshaun Watson because look at what they had
to deal with for so long.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
This is what they had to deal with for so long.
That's why they were willing to throw whatever it.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Was at Deshaun Watson because you understood the success that
he had before. You know, those issues of roles, and
even after their roles, we still got a problems. We
know what we're getting.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
You see the problem with Ojo and O Joe. Look
at look at the years ninety nine they had. They
had had a starter two thousand, they had a different starter, four,
a different starter, five, a different starter, six, a different
start oh eight, a different.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
You see a real current theme. Moo, Joe. Yeah, man, Joe,
you see the real current theme. Yeah, no, continuity, you ain't.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You finna keep trotting quarterbacks out there year after year
and thank you gonna win.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Think about a twelve different quarterback, fourteen different quarterback, fourteen
different quarterback I mean somebody in the same season. Cody
Cassel seventeen, Deshaun Casser seventeen, Kevin Hogan eighteen, Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Also not crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And you know what else too, Joe and uncle, not
only different quarterbacks, different head coaches, different officer coordinators, different plays,
having to continue to learn something new with learning new
system and not getting like Ung said, any continuity.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
You know, as an offense, this is what happens. This
is what happens.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
It's always something new, so no one's ever to get acclimated.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
And comfortable to one thing. And this is what it
will always look like. Turmoil.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Hey, hey, I agree. You can't cheet chemistry continuity, man,
you can't cheat that. You know what I mean if
you're coming in every year with a different quarterback or
a different oc, a different head coach, I.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Mean, different system.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah, it's it's it's a different system, so it's hard
to catch rhythm and time and you know that that
stuff takes a while. But I can see why it
ain't no, ain't no quarterback, wan no won no game one.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, well, I know one thing, Schauder, he gets a
chance to start.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
This is the opportunity he's been waiting on. You know,
there's no there's no more the better team to start against.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Listen, you have a chance to make history. You have
a chance to make history and and and change the narrative,
you know. And if things go well, yeah, it's gonna
be good. If things don't go well, we're gonna let
it be known. We're gonna especially me. I've gotten really
good at this, Uncle Joe. I've gotten really good at being.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Critical when things, when people, when people aren't playing.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, yeah, you gotta, we gotta, we gotta talk about
what we see.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Yeah, I'm not sugar coat ship.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Well, if you go out there, if you go out
there and shut it up, you know, all excuses are
out the window. You had a week to prepare, you
had a week to get acclimated with the.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Offense, and you got and you're playing against the Raiders.
Damn yeah, just block ninety eight. If y'all make a mistake,
block ninety eight.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Hey, matter of fact, you can. You can double shit.
You can scheme him all game.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
You can scheme away to stop ninety eight all game,
chipp him, double him. Do whatever you need to do,
the gifts you do your time to be able to
do what he does best.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Throw the ball. Shouldn't be no goddamn excuses.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Because boy, they threw him in against him, the Raiders them,
boy fighting for their lives over there. Well, I think
the thing is then, plus he gets an opportunity. I
think the biggest thing joean O Joe. He gives an
opportunity to work with those guys, so he'll understand how
they get in and out of breaks. He'll understand, you know,
the tempo and the speed in which they run their rots,
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because that's something that you can't You need to be
in there to see. Because one guy he might take
a while, he might not get his head around. Ocho
was a guy that got his head around real quick.
So you know, a, I could put this ball out
before he come out of his break. I know it
soon Ocho snapping his head around.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Other guy.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
He's like, bro, the ball will hit you inside your
damn head and you don't get your head around. Now,
you gotta get in and out of those breaks. And
I thought he did threw the ball with some time.
And yeah, he missed some throws. There's a couple of
shallow crosses that he probably should have took. But he's
a guy that wants to push the ball down the field.
Their problem was they were unwilling to take chances. Gabriel
was unwilling to take chances and push the ball down
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the field. It's hard for you to methodically three yards here,
two yards there, five yards here, five yards, one yard.
It's hard to methodically go down the field and win
games without at some point in time, taking a chance
to put the ball down the field. It's just hard
to just do that every single down in and down out.
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They got to have some consistency. Obviously, they can't fall
behind and take the new and take the running game
completely away. But as long as they can keep the game,
I'm able to run some I can play action off
of that Ojo. Give him some stuff where I get
down flat. Hey, I get a flat route, I get
an over route. I get a comeback. You'll give him
stuff like that. Stuff that is gonna allow him to
get the ball out of out of his hands real
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quick at times.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
And there are other times that you're gonna have.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
To call plays specifically so he can push the ball
down the field right, And I think they'll they'll have
some success. Look what's it called, might might have another
four or five sack game. Miles Miles Garrett, Miles Garrett.
That offensive line and you see the offensive line, you
see what the Cowboys do. The Cowboys ain't got two
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players combined that as good as Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Let alone one. Yeah, you're right, and he.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Ate so I mean, uh, Quinny Williams had a sack
of the half.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Oh, Diggie Zooa had two. I meanbody getting it on
the action the magic Hey, you know what, And if
you think about it, as good as the defense is,
this just might be the game.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Just be the game where that where that that uh
oh and seventeen losing street for quarterbacks starting and the
first time it might be snapped. There's a good chance
to be if he protects the ball and knowing knowing
the defense, the defense gonna get the ball back for
him many of times on Sunday, it's a good chance.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Hey, hey, defense, the defense should create some great field
position for it. Yes, because Geno is primed Geno. Lately,
Geno's really high up on turning the ball over. And
I don't know if he's leading the league in intercession,
but he damn close.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Put it like this.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I don't know if he's leading the room about Joe,
but he at the table where the guy that's leading
an interception, Gino at the table having a conversation with it.
You know I'm right behind you. I'm probably gonna tie
you up this week. So don't get too comfortable hell
in that lead. Yeah, should George Schaudor just needs to
beat your door. Like I said, get the ball out
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of your hands and don't take listen, shudure. I understand,
like you know, you're looking to make the big play,
but it's okay to throw the ball out of bounds.
You're not gonna outrun. You weren't blessed with your dad's speed,
and he weren't, so that bellying back. You're not gonna
outrun these d ends. You're not. You're not all you're
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gonna do if you're a field goal range. You're gonna
take your team out of field goal range. Make it manageable.
Let it if you take a sack, take a sack
on second down, don't, Joe, Now you put yourself further
behind the sticks on third downs.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
They need to stay in front of the sticks.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And that's the thing that you want like young quarterbacks, Joe,
you want them to stay in front of the sticks.
You wanted second and five, second and six, you wanted
third and one to three, thirdy at the bare maximum,
third and five, you start getting third, eight to ten,
twelve thirteen.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
You asking for trouble, Yeah, asking for tru I believe
in man. I think he's gonna do.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
I think he's gonna do pretty well this weekend, considering,
you know, with him having a week with the ones, right,
the number ones, and he hadn't done that all. Yeah,
And I think he just he just a young confident dude.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I feel like he knows this is his moment, and
I feel like you're gonna step up and shine.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, he waited, Uh, he waited a long time, what
twelve weeks to get his opportunity. It didn't seem like
it was gonna come. Yeah, but you know, hey, now
the opportunity is here.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
My brother said, hey, man, I ain't get no run man,
I ain't get it. Hey, Johnnyl We're gonna call your
number now. Yeah, just make sure what he called your number?
You picked the phone up?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
You ready, you go? You ready? You go?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Okay. It took him twelve weeks for him to call
his line, call his number. She door, answer the phone. Yeah,
answer the phone.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
That's gonna be a good one. Uh. The door spoke
about getting first team reps.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I'm truly excited for that, knowing that I have a
piece of the offense to say so, and how things
fit my eye in place, and the players exactly where
they need to be, seeing how that come in and
out of route, seeing the structure of the old lineman,
seeing their set, just having a feeling. I'm more of
a field type of a person. So that's how I learned.
That's how I do everything. I'm not just a I'm
gonna watch it, it's just going to happen. No, I
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gotta be out there feeling. I gotta move around. I
like so many details that it takes for me to
feel my best and play my best. I'm doing everything
in my power, and this team's doing everything in their
power to help me get prepared. Yeah, oh yo, yeah,
what you think the stands, what you think is stant's
gonna be.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
You know what, I don't want to say. I don't
want to jinx it. I don't want to drink it.
I just don't want to Yeah, I don't want to
jink it.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I just know that Sisfanski understands what your door strengths
are gonna be. He's gonna he's gonna understand what Shador
does well. So the game plan going to that game
is going to be dedicated and geared towards what he's
able to do well. For one, that's getting the ball
out of the goddamn field, having a healthy balance of
being able to run the ball, so play action works
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as well when they do want to throw, and make
sure they do. They cannot, under any circumstances, be one dimensional.
They can't be one dimensional. So a healthy balance of
the run and healthy balance of the past, and once
that young bull get in the rhythm and get any
kind of confidence.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Joe Man, I think I think that comes with the
prep you know, throughout the week, you know, especially with
the ones getting that getting that under your belt. That's
gonna create a lot of confidence for the young boy man,
you know, going into the game. And I think that's
gonna help them unk Ojo.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
And the play call, the play call is gonna look
completely different because you got a quarterback that can do
something different than ye look completely different.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Yeah. Oh Joe, you remember, Joe, you remember your first start?
Oh Joe, what you remember about your first start?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
San Diego Chargers, Uh, San Diego Chargers in in San
Diego obviously when they had the baseball field, Rodney had
Roger Yeah, yep, Rodney Harrison junior se Ryan McNeill who
went to the w went to U M played defensive back.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
The YEP score.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I scored my first touchdown on Ryan McNeill in the
corner of the end zone and the scar is still
there because I landed on the on I don't I
don't know if it was third base a home plate, and.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Skinned up the infield.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, the infield and skinned up my whole My whole
arm is still there. It's still that's that's how deep.
That's how deep that cherry was. Yeah, that was that
was dope. That was my first That was my first start.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Joe, you remember your first start.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Yeah, my first start was obviously it was my rookie year.
It was second game of the season. I was playing
behind Eric Williams, who was the small four for the
Boss themselves at the time. Well, he had he entered
his knee in the first game. So second game of the season,
coaches like, we're gonna start you at the two. It
was against the Milwaukee Bucks with Ray Allen, Sam Cassell,
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big dog. Oh man, I came out there ahead of time. Man,
I put up about twenty three Okay, yeah, young rookie.
I wasn't but twenty years old out there.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
After they getting to it, you're man, you dropped little
twenty for the little little either twenty piece on them.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
What hey, look see are you need, especially when you're
young like that, is to see those type of performances
just to let you know, Okay, oh yeah, I'm right here.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
I can do this. Oh yeah. And next thing, you know, boy,
you be putting on the show for real. I like it. Man.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I just kept saying, man, man, they need to put
me in. They need to put me. I just say, oh, Joe, man,
he put me in. I can make some plays. I
can make some plays. Yeah, lord, bah, you're getting ready
to play the Chiefs. We get ready to play the Chiefs.
You Hey, the Chiefs got Aba Lewis, they got Kevin Ross,
they got Darn Cherry, they got Martin Baylor's. They got
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Neil Smith, Derrick Thomas, Damn Big Joe Phillips. Oh man,
they got Pursy Snow, Dann Salamore, Oh Joe. I say,
I said, put me in, not against them.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Back, that ain't them.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
They got a number one, they got like the number one,
number two defensive. So I'm like, yeah, we're gonna we're
gonna put you. We're gonna we're gonna start you, and
we're gonna put you in. I said, okay, I said,
so you know. I'm like, so what I'm gonna do?
So they say, hey, I want you to line up
outside and we get into the we get into the
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like five of in inside, the five of the inside,
We're gonna throw you a fade. I'm like, Adam Lewis
went to the Pro Bowl, Kevin Ross went to the
Pro Bowl. So you mean to tell me, y'all gonna
put a rookie in and say go run a fade?
Speaker 4 (39:53):
On one of them.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, just jump up on the top of it. Y'all
said that, like that's easy, Like, yeah, hold on, I
ain't no better. I was like, oh, oh, Joe, so
I hey, I told her brother, but you boy gonna
get the game.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
They gotta play for you. Boy.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Hey, they say jump ball, drop jump ball. You know
what I'm saying, Joe. Yeah, okay, Joe, I get out there.
They call it rock because he he was compact, but
he was strong. He got his hands on you. You
call him getting nothing. But anyway, they didn't They didn't
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expect me to shake him like I did. Yeah, because
they thought it was gonna be physical, and so just
throw a jump ball, Joe, how about I beat him
off the ball clean?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I said, Okay, he gonna live on the top. I
would cared that that I got him.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, he back showed it. Oh Joe, So I really
had to jump up over the top of up to
get it. I said, you get it, I got it it.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
I caught it here.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Hey, Hey, I walk into the Oh Joe, Joe, I'm
walk into the line. I said, Lord, if you help
me catch this ball, you ain't gonna let me catch
no more.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
My whole career. I don't make problem. Hey he listen, hey, hey,
because ain't nothing.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I caught it on.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I caught it on. I caught it on, yoe.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
And from that that gave me the confidence because I
beat the pro bowler for my very first touchdown. So
that gave me the confidence that I belonged. And I'm like,
and I remember getting back and I remember going to
the side because everybody, everybody came and like, man, make good.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Job good, that's what it makes a play and seven
John Toba said, see, that's like you you can do that.
I can do that. Yeah, I can do that. Yeah,
that thing out. I don't know why y'all surprised. I
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tried to play. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Oh yo, hey, I was so good as hey, get
in there for they throw me a short cross, got
hit me in the back.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
I fumbled it. I don't. I know, I can't have
no prosperity. I don't.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
But then they put me back here. They put me
back here and say, you just got to hold on
to the ball. They uh, it's gonna happen quick. Oh yo,
I run now, I run a gold ball against cover two.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I'm talking about like soon as the ball hit my hands,
hit me in the back. I held on to it though, Okay,
I held on to it though Joe had the ball
and through it. Yeah. That was That was like, man,
I really, I really And come to find out, I
go back and listen to the the TV version of
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it and they and uh, the the announcments said coach Rees,
is really how this kid think?
Speaker 4 (43:00):
This kid has a lot of potential. Yeah, oh I
got potential. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
One thing, hey, Joe, I mean Joe and uncle and
those in the chat that have played sports. One thing
about it, when you're not sure yourself, you know, and
even if you are confident, and you go out there
and you perform well and whatever it is that you do, whatever,
whatever your respective craft may be, and you you make
a play or you do something good, and then you
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you do it again and you start to build that confidence.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Once you got confidence, it's a rap.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
It's a rap in that point on, and you just
stack them one on top of another, and as some
at some point it just becomes it becomes natural, it
becomes consistent.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Oh yeah, hey, look as a rookie, man, you play
so hard, bro, I'm talking about it so hard. Because listen,
I just remember being out there on the court thinking like, man,
I'm out here with playing against Michael You and Tracy
McGrady and start I'm playing with Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce.
Like I remember being in so much of awe that
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I was like, I'm telling y'all, bro, I couldn't really
sleep as a rookie, like I used to be so
geek for the moment, like I couldn't wait.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
I couldn't wait.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
So you just wanted to play hardest crap because I
never wanted coach to have a reason to take me
out the game.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
I don't care what it was.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
I was out there playing hard as I don't know it,
trying to get as many deflections as I can't hands.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
Anyway, that's funny, hey.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
It's just like when you see man. I remember the
first time we played in Denver was a preseason game.
We played the forty nine ers O Montana, Steve Young.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Jerr Rice Oh, Roger, Craig John, all them. Just I
was like, damn, I'm really on the field. I really
be Damn, Jerry, I'm looking at Jared like, yeah, yo,
that's right A lot.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, I caught a touchdown on in the preseason, oh Joe,
and then hit the ham on them.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah, hold on, you were dancing in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
And the boy look here, I'm from an AGBCU. I
just call a touchdown on the depending Super Bowl chair.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
Man I was. I would Floyd crazy, Yeah, man, I was, Man,
I was.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
And it was televised. It was a Monday night game.
It was televised, old joke. Oh they saw me. Everybody
in Savannah State, they why know they watching my hometown
gun Mill.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
They watching a man. I told y'all, id no sharp, man,
I told y'all sharp like that.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Man, I bet.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
I was so happy, man I call it.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I bet my my cell phone bill probably seven hundred dollars,
cause you know, back then cell phone bill they charged
you by the minute.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
It was like a minute jokes. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
it was like three fold all of a minute. I
mean a phone bill.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
He quick high that I had that big old brick too.
I don't know why I had a brick, bro. I
was a seventh round draft pick, Nigga sixty four thousand.
I got a cell phone.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Ba oh yeah, the Motorola, the Motorola ate something about.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, that had that big brick. Yeah, it had to
be brick. They had the one that you had to
you had to pouch, you had to carry, you had
to carry with it.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
Yeah that getting on your person, you could get hit it. Yeah.
And then they came with the portable. What Joe, what
was it was? It was it free on the weekends.
I came later. At first it wasn't like that you
had to pay, and it was all like, if you
go out of the area, it was Roman Roman charging. Yeah, man,
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the Roman charging. Man, that thing be about be crazy.
I ain't know. Let me tell you, I didn't know
nothing about the Roman charge.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
I just ate he's plaining it to you back then,
Oh Joe, they don't explain it to you now that
this is what you get and if you go over
your out of you gotta pay.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
They didn't explain it the phone. This is what it calls.
Blah blah blah. I ain't know nothing about Roman. I
ain't know.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
If you go out of the thing roaming with extra
like six dollars, or you get a call, I'm big balling,
Oh Joe, I take it my phone on the road.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
You got got money? What hey, listen, I forgot I forgot.
I forgot, uh what service provide money? Yeah, I forgot
what service provider? I was with Joe and uncle, but
I understood that what I was with you. I had
him explain to me about the minutes, and they said,
if if you was a certain amount of minutes and
you hold on to it and don't use your phone
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that much this month, the minute's gonna.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
Roll over, and they roll over, roll over to the
next month.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
I say, yeah, yeah, so I'm gonna make sure I
don't go over a certain amount of minutes. So I
got a little bit extra going to the next month. Joe,
but hey, there was some days back then.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Boy, it don't work like that. Birth through the minutes
so quick? Quick?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Man? What you birth through the minutes so quick? And
then what if they brought that week ind uh? After
after seven o'clock and weekend free? Hey, I called a
I call y'all to sell more five. You't get no
call during today.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
On the on the phone, on the phone all night,
I call you, what is free? And then the weekend
you burn that thing up? Hey, Hey, to that thing
get hot on the side of your Yeah you got
oh yeah, hold on and Joe, Hey, Joe, and he
don't have no girlfriend. Though.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
On the weekend, y'all be on the phone. You be
on the phone all day, all night. Hold on you
wake up the phone sitting on your chest. Hello, are
you you're still there?
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Yeah? The whole a boy and it was some day. Hey, Joe,
I know you did that. You ain't gonna lie. Come
on now, hey, on the phone all night long. Ain't
don't be talking about nothing. Ain't talking about nothing, six
seven hours straight.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
They made the phone this phones got smaller and they
had a little clip that you have on your on
your side like that Star Tech.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Yeah, in the Sidekick too. Yeah, man, yeah, some good memory.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Let me ask you this, Joe Ojo, which game do
you think will have the most views? Brown's Raiders or Eagles, Cowboys?
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Brown Raiders? Probably Browns Raiders. I mean, listen, a lot
of people, man, it's a lot of people looking forward
to seeing you do play. They are.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
It's in the early window, so they're not going head
to they're not really going head to head because of
the Fox, the Fox game, the Cowboys Eagles. I think
if I'm not mistaking twenty five right, and so what
is in that first that one O five window, so
all of all the cowboys. Man, Hey, did you see
all those cowboy fans Monday night at that stadium?
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Oh? Jo Yo, yeah I did. Did you see all
those cowboy fans?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
I flew out, We flew out, Jordan, I flew out
on Tuesday morning, Joe, Oh, Joe. I was like, hold on,
they fans weren't going to Dallas. They flying to Atlanta.
So I can just imagine the people going back to Dallas.
I can imagine the people going elsewhere because there were
so many cowboy fans in that in that airport, so
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many cowboy fans. I'm talking about cowboy hats, cowboy boots,
that Jersey CD Jersey. I'm like, oh my goodness, yeah,
people traveling, man travel the still Cowboys. They're both in
the lake. Oh, actually they're both. They moved them. The
coach Chief is in the early window. So the coach
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Chief is the one o'clock game. And now the are
the Browns, Raiders and the Cowboys Eagle are both in
the same in the same four to twenty five with them.
It's gonna be interested.
Speaker 4 (50:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (50:46):
I still, I still think the Browns and Raiders gonna
have the most views and the way they do that.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
See, you can't get what you call them like like
sometimes you can have their have Okay, you can watch
this game, this game, this game, this game. They're not
finna do it with these two games you got. Hey,
look why it is so hard to what's the game?
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Now? Man? You got to download eight apps? You shouldn't do.
Guess what, Joe, guess what with that new contract? Come up?
Speaker 2 (51:13):
You have a dinload some more? Yeah, Netflix, but now
net Flix go don't want a package. That's how they
get it. That that's how these French you see all
these franchises, how they skyrocketing prices.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
I mean Broncos only just he just bought the Broncos
for four and a half million.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Now they worked six point eight billion five six years,
they've increased two point three billion dollars. The Cowboys worked
what level twelve thirteen billion? Jerry Bardy for one hundred
and thirty five hundred and forty million. Hey, that's why
because the revenue there's nothing. Look, there are a lot
of sports, there's baseball, there's basketball, but don't nothing move
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the needle in North America, like like NFL football.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
Man for love from football.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
And that's two reasons fantasy in sports betty h because
you watching intently, are they gonna cover O?
Speaker 4 (52:11):
Joe?
Speaker 2 (52:11):
And then now the prop bet man, Sometimes you don't
even care about the game, and I just want to
see a CD get six catches.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
I didn't want to see get set by. I want
to see what chase.
Speaker 5 (52:25):
Hey, that's what I had. That's what I care about.
I don't I try to get these props. Hey, look, Ojoe.
That's why I have to stop betting. I can't watch
the game in peace because I got I got my
I'm trying to hit.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
I'm like man, and looks like when you watching it
intensively like that, you ain't never gonna hit. But boy,
let you mess around, make a bet and end up
falling asleep or something. Be right on the number. Every
time I had to stop watching. That's how they do
when you played.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
When you play the cast three of the cast, Hey,
I know you happy, happy about what? I know you happy.
I know you know your birthday came. I said, what
what birthday that was? My sister called me, tell me, yeah,
I know you had probably had it. I said, had
what your birthday? I said, huh my birthday hit at
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O six two six cash fok, I have you know
what I'm saying, don't you had it straight and straight box? Yeah,
a little cool, A little cool, twelve fives and five
hundred full twelve out of five hundred.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
I hear.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
Then the cast through my aunt's birthday seven eleven. Yeah,
I played it. I had it ten times straight it came.
That's five thousand.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
They tried to run it back past me, Joe the
next day, because I played it that evening on Sunday
and I played again, Brooke, and I said, you know what,
y'all mak y'all, slip y'all gonna try to run it
back again. Hey, guess what they came It brought it
right back, brought it right back, Joe. And guess what
I was sitting on it again? Another five thousand, Yeah, Joe,
they can't get on about it.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
Hey, matter of fact, you know what I'm gonna do
that now. You just gave me an idea.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
You know, I'm play my grandma and my mama birthdays. Yeah,
Grandma and my mama birthdays probably played you know, maybe dude,
dude the year they were born.
Speaker 4 (54:09):
Yeah, I'm gonna go play out.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
I don't that's that's normally what it. Yes, that's normally
what I do. You play your birth If you played it,
you could play it straight, combo straight box, I played
I played it. I played it straight. I had it
two times straight at one time. Combo combo back combo
probably cost you two dollars because it's extra because now
anywhere it comes, those numbers come. It could come six six,
two zero, it can come six six oh to any
(54:32):
combination and you'll get you know, half of what you
normally would get. So oh yeah, I will, I'll hit it.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
I hit a lick on it. Oh.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Joe Bill's wide receiver Keon Coleman, is reportedly likely to
be inactive for the second consecutive game. Keon is expected
to sit Tomorrow's against Texans, according to Eric Turner of
Cover One. Earlier in the week, ko Shan McDermott said
he needs to see Keon show growth to get back
on the field on Thursday night against the Texans, the
(55:00):
Bills are likely to go with Joshua Palmer, Elijah Moore,
Tyrell Shavers, Khalil Shakir and Gabe Davis as active.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
Hey, listen, they going with the veterans. They're going with
the veterans and listen.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Obviously, as a rookie, you know you want to come
in and make your impact, but they have players that
are a little bit more impactful, a little bit more
impactful than you are, and bring a little a little
bit more to the table than you do. So you know, obviously,
I mean, at this point we're going in the week twelve,
week thirteen, whatever it may be. I mean, it's already
(55:33):
set in stone. I mean, anything that you could have
shown or proved that you could do, you haven't done
it today, which is why they're comfortable making you inactive,
showing you that we can get the job done without you,
especially as productive as they were offensively last week without you.
Speaker 4 (55:48):
Hell, you know that we don't need to be have
a great story, old, I got a great story to
tell you.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
And Joe, oh yeah, we had what five six touchdowns
and you didn't play, so whatever.
Speaker 4 (55:58):
But what's the point at this point? Six seventeen yards? Yeah? Hey,
so hey, you know what that means to me? All
it says is Keon Coleman, young boy, I know you're
gonna see this.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
You know how I love you to death. We talk
all the time. Come on down, here with me in
the off season. Come on down here with me the
off seaton. I guarantee you they'll never sit you down again, even.
Speaker 4 (56:19):
If you do miss a meeting.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
He'll be too valuable for them and what you bring
to the table on a Sunday for the to sit
you down. Come on down here, work with your boy now.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
I remember my rookie season, Dennis Smith, number forty nine,
Oh Joe.
Speaker 4 (56:36):
We call him Kahunah.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
And Kahuna I mean he's one of the guys that
from the time I got there, he always I don't
know what it was, but the veteran players, a lot
of the veteran players that were really good took a
liking to me him h L Way. I mean, I
mean veteran players. Huna got there in eighty one, John
got there officely in eighty three with the trade through Baltimore.
But they the best took a liking to me, and
(57:00):
I remember him saying, sharp, never let them see they
can win without you, Ojo. That's why I shot up
a lot of times because I didn't want my backup
to get in. And then all of a sudden he
played well, and then all of a sudden they figured
they can move on from me. So that was also
another reason that I shot up. But I'll never forget
him saying that. He said sharp, never let them see
(57:22):
that they can win without you. If you notice who
adopts that quarterbacks, Brady take every rep. Peyton Manning took
every rep, Brett Fahr took every rep, Drew Brees took
every rep. You not fin to see if that guy
can play or he can't play, because I'm never gonna
give you an opportunity to let you see if he
can play. You just got to go on your instinct
because I ain't coming out of there. See what Keon
(57:44):
Coleman did. He allowed them to let Terrell Shavers get
on the field show we can win without him. Now,
once they find out they can win without you, guess
what they'll do, Ojo win without you and they'll move on. Now,
the coach says, I need to see growth. We having
a conversation about a guy in the second year that
shows growth. Now, I'm gonna tell you got a great personality. Hey,
(58:09):
but after a while you were gonna start they were
gonna be laughing at you. You're talking about Guess what
the jacket guess why I got the jacket pro I'm
gonna go back against It's funny, kiki ki, But at
the end of the day, you better be putting some
points on the board. You better be get some yards,
You better be get some catches, you better get some
some sacks of interceptions. You better do something other than
make them laugh, because they're gonna say you need to
(58:30):
go to the mprov. You need to be at the
laugh factory because the football fiel ain't where you need
to be. Right at the end of the day, as
my good friend Glow said, that, they gonna end, and
when it ends, you better have catches, yards and touchdowns.
If you play on the officers side of football as
a skill position player and they're not playing, they ay, Ojo,
(58:51):
it's too much money involved, because before you know it,
they're gonna have to make an investment twenty twenty five
thirty thirty five forty million dollars and said, hold on,
you doing this and you're on your rookie contract. What's
gonna happen? We give you thirty million, O Joe.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
You got to be special. They got to be something
about you, Joe. They got to be something about you
as a receiver that separates you. Everybody play receiver, everybody
can run, everybody can catch. What is it about you
that makes you that much more valuable and better than
the next man. It got to be one thing. He
ain't got to be a bunch. You got to be
one thing that separates you from everybody else.
Speaker 4 (59:29):
Hey, uncle Joe.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
You know on every on every NFL team, there's a
number one receiver and there's a number two receiver.
Speaker 4 (59:36):
There's something about that number one receiver that the number
two can't do. Whatever it may be.
Speaker 1 (59:40):
They both play the same position, but one is a
little better than the other. You have to find that
one niche It got just just one, Joe, that's it.
That's all it takes, and they got to find it.
His personality is so big, it's so big if we
can get his game on the field to match his personality.
Speaker 4 (59:58):
Though, Oh my god, hey Joe, I'm talking about it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
It's two players I want to work with so bad, Joe,
so bad, because I know if I can get them
anywhere close to how their personality is in front of
that camera.
Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Off the field, they we talk about all world. We
talk about all world.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
They can be in a conversation of top five based
on if they can get their skill set up the
part of the mess they personality.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Coleman is one.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
The other one is Exavier Legged. Hey listen them boys,
elect them boys electric when that cameras in front of them. Bro,
if I if I can get that game to match
their personality?
Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
Man, okay Ocho. I like Kean Coleman, and uh, this
could be a wake up call for him, you know,
for for him to be a healthy scratch again, like
you know, you know what could potentially be coming next
down the pipe. Man, This should this should make him
really look at himself in the mirror and get the
work and be like, man, when I get back out there,
(01:00:51):
I got to get them boys.
Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Hell, you know what I mean. So yeah, I'm hoping.
Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
I'm hoping he takes some good from this, bro, because
I seen him over there dancing and all that when
he knew he was out.
Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
But hey, look that hurt me. Man.
Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
I tell my son who in college? I say, Bro,
they watching you even when you don't think they're watching you. Boy,
they watching you. Yeah, they watching you. So you sit
over there in more power and do all that watching man.
Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
We've all been here.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
The longer you go without something, the easier it is
to be without something. The longer they play without Kean
in that lineup, the easy it becomes to them to
play without him in the lineup. Give you prime example.
You saw they say CD and and and and pick
went out. Now, if that's the third, fourth, and fifth receiver,
they're not even playing right. But that's the one and
(01:01:46):
two receiver. They missed a series. You see the difference.
Jimmy Johnson say, Jimmy Johnson cut a guy for sleeping
in the meeting. The reporter said, with Jimmy, if that
was Troy and he was sleeping the meeting, what would
you have done? He said, howa woke his ass up?
One guy get cut, the other guy get the other
guy get get woken up the ass Mike, what back?
Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
You? You say you lead the players if they're not there, Well,
what if it's a what if it's TV, what if
it's sharp, what if it's a way? Well, that's the
one thing about charging the flight.
Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
They'll wait on you. We're gonna wait.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
But you you understand the level of importance by some
of the things that you can get away with. But
I'm gonna be on time because I need to be
on the back of the plane to make sure when
everybody else get on, I see what they're wearing so
I can cut their ass up when they got on
the bullet jove, And that's what my job was on Joe,
get to the plane early so I can see what
you got on. You know, if you got on bus too,
(01:02:41):
that's what shark was. That's what them, That's where them jonings,
them Joners work. It was coming out if you got
on some bull hive. Don't you get on bus too.
We had coaches getting on our bus. Man, I just
want to see what eighty folk are gonna say about
what such and such got on up to the right place.
Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
His ass up.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
But key on, don't you don't don't you don't you
let us cutch you don't you give us a reason
to cutch you. Yeah, they will, or you understand. There's
a guy in college right now, won't key on coban spot.
There's a guy in high school want to be a
starting receiver, want to be a receiver on the Buffalo
Bills at high school. Bro ain't got his head down
(01:03:22):
working d y'all this ain't no this ain't no doctor,
no lawyer. You don't get no thirty your career in
the NFL. They replaced every year to turnover. That's why
the average NFL career is two point three years. Even
when you get a guy like Aaron Rodgers, they got
twenty seasons. Even you got a guy like Marcedes Lewis,
they got twenty seasons in fifteen and eighteen.
Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
The average NFL career is two point three years. That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
So how many guys in order for that twenty and
eighteen and fifteen ojo to drag it down to two
point three That means a lot of guys playing one
year or not even play it at all at all.
Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
Absolutely, Hey, look at it. Look look look at the NBA.
It's four hundred and fifty guys every year, now just
this year, not last year, every year. So if they
got fifty new guys coming in every year, guess what
they gotta have at least fifty going out. Fifty guys
gotta go. It's four hundred and fifty guys. It's only
four hundred and fifty guys every year.
Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Hey, that's why you gotta stay on top of your game.
That's why you gotta continuously train. That's it, and don't
give them a reason to gotta get better.
Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Yeah,
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