Nightcap: Lakers beat Nuggets, Vikings are making McCarthy QB1, & Cam Heyward recruiting pitch to Aaron Rodgers

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Nuggets one eight, win their first straight game. During the
five game homestand yoke. Jamal Murray was out, Lebron Ruin
was out. Luca thirty one points, nine rebounds, seven assents. Uh, Luca,
is this two hundred and thirty point game? Uh? He
had a twenty point quarter and a twenty point half,

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so he had it going early. Austin Reeves had it
going early, Oh Joe. I mean for them, like the
first quarter, they could not miss a three. They had
forty five points. Yeah, in the first quarter. Stepped off
the gas a little bit in the second quarter, let
them get back into the ball game, stepped on the
gas again on the third quarter, blew the game open.
I think the Nuggets scored thirty one to thirty two

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points in the third fourth quarter, but it wasn't nearly enough.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yo, excuse me.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Luca thirty one points, nine rebound, seven assists his two
hundred and thirty point game. Auster Reeves had twenty two
point eight assists. But I thought the Lakers played really
good well. They set the temple early. They didn't play
down til the level of competition, know it. Two of
their best players with that, and sometimes you get that,
O Joe.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
The Warriors made that mistake the other night.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
They looked at it like, oh Murray not playing, Oh
Yolk not playing, and the next thing you know, you'll
find yourself with an amung on you. But watching the game, Ojoe,
what you thought about the Lakers and how they looked to.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Night, I mean, it was impressive, It was very impressive.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Not only did Luca come out and set the tone
in the first quarter or twenty two in the first quarter.
Actually he said, stay, Luca set the tone for the
game with what he did in the first quarter, coming
out with twenty one points in the first half, in
the first quarter, and everybody, everybody played well most of
the time. On what happens is when you play a

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team that doesn't have a player like Murray playing, and
the other joke, what's your name, joker okay Yoki Jokich.
I don't know why I keep calling him joker jokich
playing you play down to your competition, most of the
time you end up losing, similar to how the how
the Warrior did the other night. But obviously the Lakers

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didn't do that. They did slow down at some point,
but it wasn't enough for another to get back in
the game, and they eventually ended up winning the game.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
So, I mean it was a good game. Obviously the
superstars are out.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
You would have liked to have seen Joker's playing and
Murray Lebron healthy Luca played, just to see a team
at full strength, to see what the game would have
been like.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, I thought the Lakers. I thought JJ had a
good game plan. But when the shots are playing, damn
the game plan. I thought they moved the ball early.
I think sometimes the Lakers get careless their time. Look,
you just have to accept Luca is gonna try some things.
I mean he's going out of biles and he tried
to throw a pass behind his back turnover. Uh and
that allowed That's what allowed the Nuggets to make this run.

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They started turning the ball over the second quarter. What
you going out of the bounds and try to throw
the ball behind his back to a guy right there
front of the basket. I was like, Lord, have mercy, Luca.
But that's Luca.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
You have to accept the good with the band because
that's his game, that's what that's how he plays.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
And with that, you gotta think about it when it
comes to him. Now, you do some things you don't
like you have, you got to accept the good with
the bat. But it's more good than bad when it
comes to him.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
But he's playing. Yeah, for sure, aar man A has
been great. I like this game.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
But you could tell, and you look at him from
the time he got there to the way he is now,
he's immensely better. You could tell he's a student of
the game. You can tell he put time in on
his game. You can tell that it's important to him.
And that's what I like to see. Regardless of the
sport you play, it needs to mean something to you.
You gotta want to get better. You can't rest on

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your laws. Yeah, he got a three year contract, probably
played him like thirteen to fourteen million dollars. He said, nah,
I want want of them big daddies. I want one
of them two hundre's And he gonna get it. And
he would have earned it. He would have earned it.
And you see why the Lakers were so unwilling to
part ways with him. Everybody in every trade always tried
to include him, and a lot of trades broke down

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because the Lakers were unwilling to part ways with him.
They saw the improvement, they saw the maturation getting better
from the three, getting better at finishing at the rim.
Nile's handles, he's putting the ball on the floor, got
the nice snatch pull. He's really he's turned himself into
an all Star caliber player. And I understand that there

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are a lot of great guards, and you know, you
got to get back Steph and you got Job and
you got Shay Gilgers, and you got hardened, you got
some Kyrie. You got some really good guards in the
in the Western Conference. But man, the way he's playing,
he's an all star caliber. You know, he's an all
star caliber player and he can handle the ball. Lebron

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is trusting him for a very very long time. If
you go back and look at that uh, that Memphis
Grizzly series, he actually won them a game. Lebron's like, no,
don't give the ball to me, you take it, go
win the game for us.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
And he's done that.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So I just love the way he's improved, how he's
gotten better in this Laker team.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I think if they get healthy, I think they can
be dangerous.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I still think they're big short, but hey, we'll see
what We'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
When the rubber needed to meet the roads.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, well, listen, you know the game of basketball very well,
so does everybody else. Everyone else with the knowledge of
the game of basketball has said the same thing about
the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
They don't have a big. In order to compete, in
order to go as far.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
As you need to go, you're gonna have to have
a big and they just don't have it. But we
can we can see, we're gonna we don't see what
they can do with that two headed monthy. Once Lebron
comes back, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well, because they're gonna be small once Jackson Hayes goes
out of the line up.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
That's small.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
I mean, Coco, Uh, it's okay, a little small height, okay, height, spine,
but he just don't have enough breaks in his back pocket.
And so they you know, people can just uproot him
and just move him off, move him off the spot.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
The spot.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah yeah, but uh, you know, I mean, and there's
gonna be some times that probably Lebron's gonna have to
slide to the fire. And you know, I mean, because really,
if you really think about it, there's not a whole
lot of guys that have you know, Rudy Gobert is
not gonna cause you any damage basically, you know, they
got hard and standing, they got chat Hogan. But when

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you look at Memphis Zach Edie, he's just a big body.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
He just sets screams and stuff like that down into
the basket. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, So you look at the teams. Now some goon,
some goon. Now he canna be a problem for the Rockets. Yes, yeah,
he's an All Star. He's an All Star for a reason.
But like I said, I like the Lakers. Lebron gets healthy,
Luca is Luca. Come playoff time, he has the third
highest scoring No, he has the second highest scoring average

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in playoff history. With that being said, Lebron healthy Lebron
is the top five in playoff history as far as scoring.
They can do some damage, but I just wish they
had another big I don't know why they signed alex Linn.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Hey, he ain't been too high on Brother Lynn?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, what was what's wrong with Brother Lynn?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
He's about he's probably about thirty five days away from
being the tallest coach in history. That's his next profession
and it ain't gonna be in the NBA. It's gonna
be coaching basketball somewhere, maybe high school. The Vikings are
set to roll with JJ McCarthy, Thank you, not pursue

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Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Vikers have rejected multiple trade calls for JJ McCarthy, telling
other teams they're moving forward with him as their quarterback.
The team plans to add a veteran, but they're not
pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time. McCarthy. Now, it is
the off season as QB one. That's that's a good thing.
That's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
And listen, I don't like the way Aaron Rodgers is
using the leverage, using his past, his accolades, his resume,
and what he's done in the past. The whole team
steadily at hostage. Now some of the reports might hold
him hostage.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Move on.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
They're allowing him, just like Green Bay allowed him to
do all the things that he did. They're the Jets
allowed being they allowed it. The Jets allowed it.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Just move on, and.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
That's that's exactly what they should do. Now, this is
what I like about Minnesota. The reports came up, and
the reports came out about Minnesota obviously being in the
hunt for trading for him, and what they did right
away it ain't even been two days. Oh, we're gonna
mix that real quick. We don't have time to play
them games with you. So obviously you haven't learned your
lesson with the last two places you've been to, because
not here you go tell the other teams you're not

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sure on what you want to do, yet having them
wait using the leverage that you do have, the little
bit of leverage you still have to play games.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I'm glad that Minnesota Biakan came out and said what
they said.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
They're going forward with JJ McCarthy because you drafted him
for a reason and you understand what he can do,
especially with the supporting casts he has around him, because
you saw what Sam Donald was able to do.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
He wasn't able to do it with the Jets, weren't
able to do with the Panther.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
But all of a sudden he comes to Minnesota and
he has a career year, and that's this time that
JJ McCarthy step up and do the same damn thing.
And that's what he's probably going to do because what
he has around him is very very special.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, well, you got to find out what if the
guy can play him out? O Joe, Well, I mean,
you keep kicking.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
The can, You keep kicking the can down the road.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, but listen, even if he couldn't play, we didn't
think Sam Donald would play anyone with the Jets.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
We didn't think he was speak of plagments with the Panthers.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
But all of a sudden, magically he turned into God
damn Houdini over there in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
But we saw what he looked like the last two
games of the season with that. Because see, there's this
thing called expectation. You tell me, because think about what
you just said. You didn't think Sam Donald's gonna do that.
Nobody thought Sam Donald was gonna do that until expectations
came along. And then expectations came along, Oh we got
to get the number one seed, and then what happened,
Oh we're in the playoffs. Then what happened? He turned

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back into Sam Donald. You see, expectations is the number
one killer of goals and dreams because the moment somewhat
expects something up. See, that's the only way you can
hurt me, ojo, Hey, you got if I don't expect anything,
If I'm in a relationship and I'm just casually, I
don't expect nothing that you do, you, I'm gonna do me.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
It's the moment. We have expectations in each other. See
that it.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Bothers me, that it hurts me if you do something
that I don't agree with. So the vacuums started to
have expectations. We started to have expectations for Sam Donald.
And you see what happened.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Now, you you you was preaching a little too fast. Now,
I'm not sure that people in the chat. I'm not
sure that people in the chat didn't catch that.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
But that was a moment.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
That was a moment a lot of people might have
missed because we're talking about football, but that's something that
could apply to life. And I think a lot of
people are missed. But I miss it because as soon
as I heard it, you know, I keep.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
That thing on it.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, you keep it on you expectation. Now bring that
to me again, and I got to write it down.
Now when we get to the end of the year,
what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take all these
quotes out of wrote down and I'm gonna make a
nightcap booklet called the Quotes so the people can apply
it to life expert But expectations just.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Get you one more Yeah, yeah, it's the number. One
is the number one killer of dreams and goals. Because
here's the thing, Oh Joe, Sam Donald, nobody because they're like, man,
he was terrible with the Jets.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, well he was terrible with Carolina.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Well, we didn't get an opportunity to see him really
at Sam Friend, So everybody would expect to remember the
last two stops that they saw him that he wasn't
that good. Okay, So now he doesn't have any expectations.
The more you win, the more expectations come along with that.
So now the last couple of games of the season, Oh,

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jo we got the opportunity to get the number one seed.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Boom.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Oh we're the playoffs now, don't matter blah blah blah boom.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah, and you know that the playoff atmosphere is different.
Now that's a whole ball game, and playing than playing
in the regular season. Regular season, he looks phenomenal. Is
a different type of pressure. Again, the one, the one
word expectation that comes there comes with being the quarterback,
especially especially in that type of situation. So I kind

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of I kind of understand and the team you are
playing or had to play, eh, yeah, but that's what
it is.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
What happened when you have expectations.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Oh, Joe, Like I said, and I like to quate
things the relationships because most of the people, specially not
chatter's been a relation, relate to it. Yeah, it's the
moment you have expectations. You see when a couple's in
a relation. At marriage, there's an expectation. You're gonna be faithful.
I'm gonna be faithful. Oh, I'm gonna protect you. You're
gonna protect me. Come on, man, I'm gonna honor the
vows that we stood before God and we swore to

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each other. Now I have that expectation. Hey, if you say, hey,
what you're doing tonight? Uh, I ain't gonna be able
to see you tonight. And everybody there's like, there's no expectations.
I have no obligation. You have no obligation to me.
I see you when I see you, Ye hollow?

Speaker 2 (19:41):
What a holler?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
And you know what I don't like.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
You know what I don't like about the analogy and
you get me right now is the marriage one normally
doesn't work.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
But the woman with had no expectations. Here, you be friends,
you be, you be, you be sneaky links or whatever
you want to call it. For years and years and
years and years all.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
The way down the line, because there are no expectations,
so there's no failure or reason for anything to ever end.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
All but hair is the hair, the sniaky part. The
ought your were to get you.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
You see the number one, the number one cause that
call will cause a relationship to end. It's uncommunicated expectations.
You see, Oh, Cho, she expected you to get up
flowers and you didn't get them. Why didn't you tell
me you wanted flowers? You expected she expected you, oh Joe,
to plan this vacation. You didn't know she wanted to

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go on a vacation. Uncommunicated expectations like.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
That, Oh your thought? Did you know what?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
He?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
She gonna do this thing for Father's Day? We're gonna
do it.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh blah blah blah. She didn't do it. You see,
uncommunicated expectations. But again uncommunicated. But what's the end part expectations?

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I like that I.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Haven't heard I haven't even heard that word before. Not used,
not using this context and actually use together. Uncommunicated expectations.
Yeah like that.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
She has an expectations, but she didn't communicate them with you.
You have an expectations, but you didn't communicate them with her.
So those uncommunicating expectations and what happens a lot of
times people have what we call implosive personalities. They hold things,
whole things, whole things. There's only so much you can

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hold before it explodes. You term, oh you went postal
a boom and so now instead of just saying, well,
you know, Chad, I thought that we were going to
do this. No. One month, go by, two months, go by,
three months, go by, go by, and it's building.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
You don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
It's not been communicated, so you don't know it's building.
It's building, it's building. Boom that it blows. Yeah, you've
been with me all this time. You should have known
how many time you heard that old joke all the time,
you know what I like.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah, all the time, all the time, because you've been
with him a certain mind, you've been with someone for
a certain amount of time, and you know women all
the time. Oh, I know you're real well, I know
you real well. I knew it was gonna say. You
could say something, yeah, he can finish the sentence for you.
But all of a sudden, when they come to certain stuff, Oh,
you didn't want to let me.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I know you wanted that you wanted.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Oh you can't read my mind. I threw you.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Hence I gave you a sign a few I gave
you a sign a few weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
A sign.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah what Yeah in the commercials I mentioned it when
it came on TV.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, I missed the sign that God gave me to.
You should have told you'd say I missed the signed
that God gave me. You left your ask long about
six months ago. I missed that sign. But that's and
that's the thing. I just think, you know, sometimes we
we we take for granted, and you've been in a relationship,
just tell me, yeah, I I'm very I'm one of

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these guys, O Joe. Just tell me if you want
to do something, tell me. I don't have time. I
got too much ish on my plate to try to
try to figure.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Out what you want.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
You can just open your mouth and say if you
want to go here, say that, you want to eat that,
say that, if you want this, say that.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
But the guy me, you know what to talk about,
you know what to talk about? On them shows?

Speaker 1 (23:27):
What they got to do with this? What that got
to do with you telling me what you would like
to do. And so I think the thing here for
the Vikings, they have an expectation. Now they see their offense,
they realize that, hey, Jedda's gonna be Jedda Hawkinson's been

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a Pro Bowl player. Addison, Hey, well, the more opportunities
we give him, the better he can be.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Offensive line.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Maybe they adces to the offensive line, But other than that,
I think you you always. I mean, you draft the
kid when you drafted it, and now you keep kicking
the kN down the road. And then and he's like,
hold on, what I got to do? You took me
and you told me of the guy, and now I
get hurt. Okay, I get that. I understand that I

(24:15):
got hurt. There's nothing I can do about that.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
O yo.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
But then I come back and y'all got another guy.
You tell me got it. I got to wait another year. Yeah, yeah,
that was That would bother. That would bother anybody, especially
a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
That guy drafted where he got drafted, expected to start,
but due to injury, he had a small setback. And
now you've done all the work you need to do
during the season last year to get yourself back, not
only in playing shape, physically and mentally. But now you
talk about bringing somebody else in another veteran presidence and
telling me I got to take a back seat. A
get wait, wait a minute, what are we talking about here?

(24:51):
So I'm happy for him. I'm glad that the organization
decided to hurry up and mix the rumors that were
out there about Aaron Rodgers coming in and let JJ
McCarthy give him that sense of security mentally so he
can go forward and know he's quarterback one and doesn't
have to look over his shoulder.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I agree, Well, this is what Cam Heyward, the great
defensive tackle for the Pittsburgh Steelers, was asked if he'll
be doing any recruiting to help bring Rogers to Pittsburgh.
I ain't doing none of that darkness retreat. I don't

(25:28):
need any of that crap. If you want to be
a Pittsburgh steel or you don't, that's simple. That's the pitch.
If you want me to recruit, that's recruiting. Pitch Pittsburgh Steelers.
If you want to be a part of it, so
be it. If you don't, no skin off my back.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Hey, there are certain teams. You look at the logo
and the helmet. They don't need no help, they don't
need no recruiting pitch.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
The product sells itself. Again, I always use that, I
use it. I always use that example of Blue Magic
in the movie American Gangster with Denzel Washington.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
The product sells itself. The Steelers historic franchise.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Them stars on the side of the helmet. It sells itself.
The other franchise things are bigger in Texas. The product
sells itself.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
You don't need to do anything for it. You don't
have to recruit nobody.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
You would have to.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
You have to sell nobody nothing because it self.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
That wouldn't be a recruitment. Oh Joe, that would be begging,
and that's what he wants.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I like what did like? Did the Jets do? The
Jets got on a private plane and flew to him. Yes, sir,
I mean, oh, I don't know if you saw this,
but I had Young Miami on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Hey, and Hey, I saw you shooting. Hey, listen, let
me tell you something.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Boy.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
You were you were shooting seventy that night.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
I see you, blessing.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Baby, I was.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
I'm just having I'm just having a great conversation.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
You know when you you know, when you conversation, that's
called shooting that depending on what you say, it ain't
what you say, it is how you say it.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
It's all about your delivery. Maybe you was on point you.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
But I was shooting that cash doll. I was shooting
at Amber Rose. No. No, I was shooting that key key.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I was shoot.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
A conversation. Well this was a little different. Now, you
didn't shoot that cash doll. You didn't shoot at nobody else. Now,
this it's just the conversation and the energy and the
aura and the chemistry in which you can't see. You
can't see it because you actually in the room. See
I'm not in the room with you. I can see
I can see the heap coming off the couch. I
can see the connection in the chemistry. Now I'm not

(27:40):
I'm talking about the type of chemistry when you play twister,
that kind of chemistry where they say red and you
got to cross over you and me.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, I seen it.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Now you can't see it.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
So it's it's it's my dude, just listen.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
I know you're in the room. That's why you can't
see them. So I'm trying to tell you what I
saw your wife.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I was on point.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
I'm telling about every every bar was there. It was there,
It was a connect, there was chemistry. You can't see it.
So you doing that which you will and.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
What you doing? Nothing with it. I'm not doing anything.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I'm one thousand okay for me, right, I couldn't in
good conscience. It's almost it would be almost like I'm
a therapist and some lady comes and talk about a
problem and then I end up fleeping with her.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Or if I'm a I'm a lawyer and I.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Have a client and I know she's she's uh, he's vulnerable, right.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Just having a conversation. I love the fact.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Let me see, let me see what you know. It's
the problem. It's the problem with this is what happens
when it comes to us. When it comes to us
are people. We overthink things. We overthink things, and we
try to analyze them and we put things in our
head with a scenario like you just did. Now you
just said a scenario. You gave a narrative that fit
the way you thought. This individual is based on the

(28:57):
situation that you created. Now see, God always has a
plan for us, and he puts people in our life
in certain situations, and you're missing your blessing that could
be now Young Miami chose to come through Club Shay
and sat down with you.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yes that I'm grateful for every guest.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Yeah, now listen, that could have been a sign from God.
You never know now what I saw when I watched
the interview. I say, what's more than just a talk?
This is more than just a conversation. Now I can
see the energy. I can see the or I can
I can see the chemistry on camera. Now you can't
see it. And I'm telling you again, now listen to
me when I talk to you, because I wouldn't tell
you and I wouldn't stay you wrong, because this will

(29:37):
the wheel over here.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Jesus got this one.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Okay, I'm not telling you.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
I'm not telling to make no moves. I'm just telling
you I can see it, and I'm not I know,
I know, I know we got people watching. You really
don't want to say nothing.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Because people watch it.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
It's just like you heard what she said, mano guy.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Showing up with.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Yeah that Now you just talked about I want somebody.
You talked about waves just the other night. Now you
talked about Berkins and g Wagon. Now this is about
what you were just what you were talking about.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Oh Joe, Oh Joe. That's a build up, she said.
Burkins now is a starter pack, right, I think it
l B. I'm thinking Gucci. Why is sale? I'm thinking
d Or Right, she say, Burkins, Croc Burkins.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
That's a starter pack. Died by jeep man. Come on, man, y'all,
y'all know many.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
First of all, you say you want him young, Huh?
Didn't I tell you didn't? I tell you got to evolved.
This is what you gotta deal with.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
You want when you want him young? Huh.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Not only that, there's certain other areas you're gonna have
to You're gonna have to listen.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
You're gonna have to update your resume. Well, I'm gonna
have to go. I'm gonna have to. Let me tell
you what I'm gonna have to do.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I'm gonna have to start going to church and get
me somebody with a hat sitting in they sitting in
the dcon s corner.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
You got me bad. I ain't got the bread.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Like hey, I tell you, I tell you what, I
tell you what I tell you.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
What Now if you if you do me a solid
and you do me a favor. Young Miami.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Know that's my sist, now you know she from mimed me. Okay,
I'm just making sure you know. That's why I'm bounching for,
just why I'm vounching for, sister. I know you're trying
to keep a professional no, but but I like the fact.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I like the fact that they come in and they
open up and we have a conversation and we just
be talking. I mean, look, I mean I had a
great conversation because, like I said, I had no I
didn't never think I would even meet any of these people.
So for me, I'm like, like, man, I can't believe
you sitting across from me. That's how I look at it.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I don't. I don't like.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Okay, let me, let me, let me, let me, let
me try to throw a question in here and try
to get slick with it.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Now, I ain't.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
You've got see you've got to do that.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
You got to say the things you're saying right now,
I'm saying the things I'm saying that you can't say
that you might be thinking. See that's what me, being
your other half is supposed to do. I'm supposed to
be able to see things that you can't see and
then relate what I see that you should do, but
you don't want to do it because you keep but

(32:14):
you're keeping a certain level of professionalism.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Now you knowing that that's in your face at all time.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Now, let me tell you what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Now you talk about you understand the prerequences when it
comes to dealing with her. Now, if you want to
lead up with one of them karc burkers, I've seen
your fifty two hundred to speed up the process.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
No, send me that car.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
That's what you owe me, not cout that gonna be
a down paper on the dail bag, seepy that because
that's what the hell you owe me.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
This bag nobody.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh, if you're gonna get a croc burket, I see
you fifty two hundred on it. How you gonna fit
me money? How you gonna talk about you gonna fit
me something on it?

Speaker 2 (32:52):
What you owe me that? Hey?

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Hey, hold on, let me give your prime example before
we move on to the next topic. Before we move
on to the next topic, understand the professionalism and once
you carry yourself destruction and discipline and everything that you do.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
That's what I level about you.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
That's why we work so well, because I'm the complete opposite.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
So yeah, I'm gonna give you a small example. Okay,
there was a movie that came out not too long ago,
when ah, what's the lady's name? Jennifer asking Jennifer Anderson
was dating Brad Pitt. They were a couple, were together,
and all of a sudden, Brad Pitt Smith.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, Brad Pitt went off to do a movie with.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Angeline missus Smith.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Okay, Okay, here you see where I'm going with this.
So it don't matter what you got going on life.
Sometimes God puts you in situations. In this case, happened
to be Club Cha Shade with a sit down with
brother Shenny Sharp and Karisha and the situation to me,
it was to me from the outside looking in, regardless

(33:57):
of the professionalism that you're trying to instilled in carry
because you have to.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I saw a situation like.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
That, Brad Pitt, Angeline and Jolie. The chemistry it was
just undeniable. And that's what I can see from far
where I was at. Now you do it that again.
Now you doing that what you will and what you may.
I'm just speaking my piece and if I didn't tell
you as your other have, I wouldn't be your friend.

(34:24):
But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
We can go.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
We can go into the next time.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Speaking of Pittsburgh, Nigie Harris says, there is a lack
of leadership with the Steelers. We just didn't know anything
on the offense. Really, we didn't have any identity. We
had a young guy coming in at coming in at QB.
I really didn't have nobody to almost learn from on
the offensive side. You like that he's saying that on Joe.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
I mean at the runner, at the running back position,
and saying that you don't have anybody to learn, you know,
at that pacific position.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
I don't really like that.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
I personally don't because there's so many resources once you're
in that atmosphere that you can learn from where it
doesn't have to actually be a person right there outside
of your head coach teaching you, because there's so much
you can learn on your own. They have film, they
have bults, they have may Goo, gods of footage and stuff.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
You can learn right, you know. Yeah, And then to say.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Something like and to say something like that with a
tutelage that you're getting at the organization you're at.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
How could you even say something like that. Look at
all the backs that have come through there.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, but they weren't the veteran leadership wasn't there when
he got there.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
That's the thing that I'm very appreciative of.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I had a guy, even though he was a year
older than me, Steve Atwater, like how to be professional.
I had Dennis Smith, who had been there since nineteen
eighty one, who said, this is how you do things.
This is how you be professional. You be punctual, you
be on time, you practice hard. I saw John, I
saw all those guys, the veteran guys, and how they
do things. Yeah, okay me now, Ojoe, I got the

(36:02):
younger guys coming in. That's my job for Burns, Foots,
Rod Smith, the other guys, TD Chalk Eye House. Now
I go to Baltimore. Now the other younger guys, some
of the younger guys, the Rays, and think, Todd Heat,
that's what you do.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
That's I think that's what he's talking about.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I think, now, I don't want to put words in
his mouth, guys, but I think that's what he's talking about,
like how to be professional, how to make sure I
practice doing everything that I possibly can to make sure
that I'm maximizing my time here. And I'm very I'm
very grateful that I got to Denver. I had guys. Look,
they're guys that wanted to party. I know that's not

(36:42):
why I was there. Maybe Ojoe, had I been a
first or second round pick, maybe I would have partake.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Probably not because that's never been my emoll.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
But knowing that I'm on thin ice and I see
at Ward, and I see Dennis Smith, and I see
those other guys John, and I see the way they do,
say you know what, Yeah, I got them. I need
to be I need to be in that group.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Listen, I understand it.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
And I truly don't understand where he's coming from in
a sense because obviously you understand what it took you
to get here. Right, it's the NFL J You've been
dreaming about this since she was a little shorty, since
your a little kid.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
This is a dream of mine.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
You will finally reached that pinnacle of reaching what you've
always dreamed of. Then you not only that you're part
of historic franchise, the Pittsburgh Stealers. I'm not getting somewhere
and worried about betteran leadership when I understand the worker
took me to get here, I'm already aligned with the
end goal. All my goals reset themselves once I make it.

(37:45):
I'm not worried about no veteran leadership. I know what
I need to do based on the goals, and except
for myself personally, it don't matter who's in the room.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
It don't matter who was that before me.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, this shit, I need to get done, and I
got to focus, and everything I do has to align
with my end goal, regardless whether I have a veteran
presence or not. At my Pacific position, I want to
be one of the best to play this game. Ever
you said about no better leadership, look at the players
that came here for you, that played the exact position
the drone better, says the Willie Parker's I mean, I'm

(38:21):
sure you didn't, James.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, but I need them better, O Joe. Pro.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
A pro is the occupation in which you do it
that's a professional. A pro is how you go about that.
You see it out and you see the difference between
college and pros. What do they do? They get your
ass up. They make sure you go to study hall.
They make sure you do X, Y and Z. They
make sure you in the weight room. Who does that?
When you go to the NFL, you and it helps.

(38:49):
It helps when you see somebody that that's a pro
because once you get there with all professionals, but to
be a pro, it's something to be said for me,
just me. Now, Hey, everything is on, but there's something
to be said for me to have veteran I remember
Mark Jackson would take me up on his wing and say, hey, hey,
you know, I see you ran that route, but I'm

(39:11):
not so sure how to run it like that because
blah blah blah X y Z. I said, Okay, I
appreciate that man. Yeah, he pulled me to the side. Hey, hey,
threaten that guy a little bit more. Hey, you got
your head around a look too far stuff. It's little
stuff like that, oh Joe, but you I mean stuff
that you can see. Yeah, but y'all you used to
get a O Joe. We used to use use and
God give it the ability getting open. It takes more

(39:32):
than that in the NFL. Yeah, because all them jokes
got gonre. Hey, God touched all them.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, I got you. I understand it.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Now.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
I wish I could told it not there to get
get better contacts and get a little bit more depth
on what he means by it. And maybe I'm thinking
a little different because of my approach, I wouldn't work
for Vetter leadership.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
I understood. Okay, I finally got here.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
I know if my goals are and to make sure
everything I do going to the line they and go
to make sure I become at some point one of
the best that play, not just for the Bengals, but
to play in the history of this game in general.
I'm gonna leave my AirPrint, whether people like me or not.
Then I think about also hell for the people in
the chat. No better leadership. Where did I stay the

(40:14):
first two years in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Where I lived at? Yeah, and I'm locked in. I
don't care who's there. I know what I got to do.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
I know what it takes to make sure I'm able
to be consistent this as a rookie.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, you know what.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
I might not have better in presents, but I'm gonna
do the things I think I need to do to
make sure I give them the best of me, giving
you the best of me.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
You know, it's a part of me.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
I think I think Nigee doesn't feel like the stealers
really appreciated him.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, because a guy.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
That's just barely rushing for a thousand yards is not
going to get their appreciation like a sake one like
Derrick Henry, like these guys rushing for fourteen fifty hundred yards.
He's never had less than a thousand yards Russian, Oh Joe,
But he's not spectacular.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
You don't look at it like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
You don't think that when he gets the ball, see
at least like Sa Kuan gets the ball, you think, man,
he might hit his head on the gold pole. Or
Derrick Henry going end the game with one hundred and
fifty maybe two hundred yards. That's not what you get
from him. I thought he's a good back. I don't
think I don't think he changes live. No, he's not
a guy that's gonna change your life for me now.

(41:29):
In college, he was sensational.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Yeah, hell hell Bill, I like Hi a Bell cow
three at three down back.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I like, oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Jamar was not Jamar Chase signed this deal, Key Higgins
signed this deal. They had their press conference. Jamar was
not happy with the reporter calling t receivering number two.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Let's take a listen to what he had to say
where the lead he would have probably been a wide
secret one. But you see it put out there that
you're the highest wide receiver. How does that one?

Speaker 3 (42:03):
You're saying?

Speaker 5 (42:04):
Fixing it one egg? That's sir, you know, bro, I
don't even look at it like that, you know what
I mean. I kind of wish they wouldn't have put
it out there like that. So because now it's that's
what everybody is saying on the highest paid too, Let's
just say I'm at a place where you know they
value me and you know they respect me, and.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
I just I'm a good player.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
So let's just say that that's not the highest receiver
too or anything like that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
So let's just say he's.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
Another great receiver, Bengals receiver that you know that puts
in the work and got his head down and just grinds.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
So, I mean, I've been saying it for a very
long time. I've been saying it for a very every
very long time. Every time I talk about the Bengals duo,
I say it all the time, and I've been saying
it for a very long time. You and I even
went back and forth about it, you know, continuously on here.
I said, he's a wide receiver, one that just happened

(43:02):
to be on the team with another number one. There
are a few instances, a few a few other teams
that also benefit benefit from this situation.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I'm not sure what the reporter is doing.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
And the reporter who understands the game of football and
is being able to watch team and Chase together should
know that no better than he's a one. If he
were to lead there, he would have been paid as
a number one, because that's exactly what he is. It
just so happens he have Tamar Chase on the other
side of him.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
But anyway, well we look at, we look at let
me ask you a question.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, when Pascertain lined up, who pascertain going to?

Speaker 2 (43:40):
He going to Chase or he going to t Higgins.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
If he's following, he's going to Chase, Okay, saulz Gardner Stingley.
If he's following, he's going He's going to Chase.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
So why would they I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
We got that. That's that's the thing that Joe call.
It didn't used to be no QB one. It was
the start of quarterback. It was no QB, it was
no wide receiver one. It was it was wide receiver.
It was Michael Lorsterning Chart, Jared Right, Randy blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Kill.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Now they got that, got all these fay wide receiver.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Hold on, hold on, ain't ain't no all. Now they
are only a few teams like that. Uh the Eagle
that's wide receiver one A and one B. The Bengals
that's wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
One A and one B.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
What they did over there with Cooper Cup and poop
in the cour that was wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
One A and one B.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Now what they will do is they will take some
of your production, the opportunities away from you and make
it look like it's something wrong with you and make
it look like wide receiver two when there's really nothing
wrong with you, if you understand the business and how
they work.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Here as a pout of there.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
But this is why I look at it. O Joe,
talk to me.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Why didn't they give if if Jalen Wallall was the
equivalent of Tyreek, why didn't they give him the same
type of money that he gave Tyree? If Davonte Smith
was the same was the equivalent receiver. So why did
they give t Higgins forty million?

Speaker 3 (45:03):
You know, you know, you can't worry. You can't work
like that.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Now going on, he wide receiver one, wide receiver one.
Get why received one money?

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Right?

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah, listen, we can, we can, we can argue it.
We can, we can, we can argue to it. But listen, normally,
normally when we talk about wide receiver.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
One and we talk about wide receiver two, there is
an enormous drop off and skill and talent enormous. Now
you got too, receivers that get it done totally two
totally different ways.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
There would make a drop off.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
I said, enormous, extravagant, extravagant drop off from your one
and your two. There's a reason the person is a
one and there's a reason the other person is the two.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Now you got to let me finish. You got too,
receivers that.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
Are really really good at what they do, high points, short, intermediate,
long balls. Now both of them do all them really well.
That I think that one of the few things that
Chase might have on h Yeah, is that guy damn
run after the catch.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
My god.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
That's also because Chase's background his background and playing running back,
and he was younger. That's why he looked like that.
Every time he get the ball, he like you like
a damn running back. He bouncing off people playing ping pong.
I mean, listen, you touch me, I'm going down. He
touched him going down. I'm making a business decision.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
So I got paid. I think I think he earned
the right.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
I mean the way he played, he had been exemplary
the whole while there. They made him play under the tag.
He played under the tag. He caught, NATed, but he
still had double digit touchdown. He was gonna be well
over a thousand yards, and so they compensated him. I love,
I love when teams reward their players for work. Put
in now, o Jo, I've already paid you for what

(46:55):
you've done. Now for me to give you this money,
they're not paying. They're not paying Chase for the triple
Crown because they paid him back. They're paying him for
moving forward. We believe you're gonna put up numbers equivalent
to that, if not better.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I can't pay.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
How do I paid you? It wasn't like he didn't
get a salary. Oh Joe, And now we got to
make up for what we didn't give him.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
He got paid. Right with that being said, I believe Chase.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
They believe Chase is gonna put up numbers equivalent to,
if not better than, what he put up last year.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
So I'm going to pay you accordingly.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah. And and he's earned it. Yeah, absolutely, Gee.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
He's earned it. I'm glad he didn't have to go.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
I'm glad he didn't have to go to get something
because so many times we see guys put oh, put
the work in, put the work in, and then they
got to go somewhere else to get get rewarded, get
to get the appreciation that I should have got from
the club that drafted me.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
You thought enough for drafting me.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
You know, I want to tell people a lot of
times what I love about Dad reeves he was smart
enough to draft me, but somehow forgot to cut me.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
The Bengals.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Oh, you you really loved he, you did your homework,
you took him in the second round. But now he
gives you all those great years and you want to
let him. You gonna let him move on.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
And you're gonna let him because he end his prime.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Yet, so now the next four years, it's really gonna
be you know, it's prime, and you're gonna let somebody
else reap that benefit because you keep Yeah, so I
was glad they think.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
You know, the funny thing I think a lot of
people haven't talked about they really don't know, is the
person that's pulling their strings behind closed doors, the person
with the power, the person who runs the show and
is making the calls, is really nine.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah. You know a lot of.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
People ain't talking about that.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
We talk about t going here, no matter what I've said,
no matter what people on ESPN, no matter what people
have said on X or Twitter for that matter. The
person behind the clause the closed doors who went up
the management and probably said, listen, I don't know what
you need to do, what you need to do with
the numbers on my contract, or what you need to restructure,
but uno and five I need that back come hell

(49:10):
of high water. If you understand Joe Brow and how
he conducts his business and the way he goes about it,
maybe that man, young young bull ain't playing not by
them too.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
You know what I love o Joe The fact that
he was outspoken about it.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
A lot of quarterbacks like, yeah, we love to have him.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Back, But that's not my call, right, it's definitely he
say they've earned They've earned the right, he said.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
And he said the same thing about Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
It seems like they're a little bit more open to
trading trade than potentially bringing him back.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
But that's something we'll discuss in the later day and time.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
But he came on first take and he was, Hey,
I want them to pay Chase.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Chase has earned that. I want them to pay tee.
He's a valuable piece to what we do and I
want him back.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
None of that. Hey, yeah, we love to have him back,
but you know I don't make that decision. I'm just
a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
No, no.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Oh, and so I love I love that that part
about him. Oh, Joe a key factor in the Jamar
Chase t HI in negotiation with Joe Burrow's influence. Beyond
the public comments, Burrow applied private pressure, making it clear
deals must get done for both. If since it failed,
it could have gotten very very interesting. Hey listen, I listen.

(50:23):
I'm glad that we just brought that up, and I
just said it ahead of time.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
Obviously I would have said it when all this stuff
was going on. But if you understand. I've watched Joe
now for a few years. I've seen him up in person.
I've heard the stories about the way he conducts himself
and goes on, goes on about his business and his
approach to the game and how serious he takes it.
In order to continue, in order to continue playing at
an elite level, you have to have elite talent around you.

(50:49):
And you understand that, especially offensively, in order to keep
that going and continue to give us a chance offensively
to get where we want to go.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
We already know what the end goal is.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Every time you can and Pete and you play on
a Sunday in order to get there, especially San Francisco.
I need my I need my two, I need my own,
I need my five. I don't know what we need
to do.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I don't know what we need to do upstairs, but
we need to make it happen.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I think something I think sometimes that quarterbacks be like,
I got my money, to hell with the rest of
this stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I ain't got nothing to do with me, and they
and they take that's a cop out on Joe.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah, it's a cop out to say, well, I don't
get to make that decision.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yeah, I've heard I heard that before, and you hear.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
It a lot.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
I mean, and you know Joe making fifty five millions,
like y'all feeling for yourself, but he knows a part
of him getting that fifty five million was, what's one
in five?

Speaker 3 (51:41):
There it is, you said it right there. Now you're come.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
In there playing around and bring somebody else in. They
can't do it one in five. He'd understand, you understand
you're gonna be upset.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
I mean he's been.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
I mean he's pretty much been throwing a chase for
what five years in college. One year missed him, yeah,
and then picked him right back back up.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
So with that being said, I'm glad these guys got
it done. Congratulations, guys, well deserved. The Lions have proposed
significant change to the NFL playoff seeding that would largely
use regular season record as the guiding principal rather than
division championships. Under the proposal, the division winner with the
conference best record will will still receive the number one

(52:23):
overall seed, but after that, teams would be stacked by
their records, regardless whether they won the division or received
wild card berths. That approach could significantly impact the NFC North,
which fielded three playoff teams last season, the Lions fifteen
and two, Vikings fourteen and three, Green Bay eleven and six.

(52:43):
The Lions received the number one seed, but the Vikings
were seated number five and the Packers number seven. Based
purely on the record, the Vikings would have been the
number three seed, the Packers would have been the number
five seed. Oh, Joe, do you understand this is an
anomaly season? Yeah, it doesn't happen like this. We've never

(53:04):
seen a team, two teams in the same division have
this kind of record.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Yeah, And what are the chances that would happened again?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
What do you think? It's not likely.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
It's not like maybe another decade, twenty years, thirty years.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Yeah, listen, one thing about it. But it was great
to see. It was entertaining. It was a very entertaining
all that that NFC. But a chance of it actually
happened again where you need to have this format even
be put in place, It's not likely and she played
unless you're playing a video game.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
I hate the fact that we take of anomaly and
try to make wholesale changes, right, because you're trying to
make a wholesale change. So what's the importance of winning
of winning winning winning your division? If there's no value
o your So I can't help it that you're in

(53:55):
that division. So if I win my division, now you're
gonna put it it's me because I won my division
with ten wins and you happen to have thirteen wins
in another division that somebody won fifteen games.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
So why even have divisions.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Let's just say, okay, y'all, the NFC, y'all, the ALC,
just play and then whoever have the best record will
stack it. You didn't need a division because cause now
you're telling me the divisions not important. So we're gonna
basing on record the best overall record. You get to
buy the next best record. You the two seed, next
best record. We don't need the vision. Stop trying to

(54:35):
stop trying to take isolated incident and make wholesale changes. Bro,
Now you make it the see like, well, if we
weren't the five seed, would bro, You're bad, you played bad.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
It's okay, that's just me.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Ojoe Farmer Bucks off of the Coordinated by Leftwich is
joining Colorado's coaching staff. Coach Bryant introduced Leftwick to the
team with the retired quarterback brings yet more pro experience
to the Boat of Colorado. The Buffs had Hall of
Fame running back Marshall Falk in February to coach the
running backs. Hall of Fame defensive tackle is a senior

(55:19):
quality control analyst for the defensive side of the football
as well worked with the D line. I don't know
what happened. I really don't know what happened in Tampa
because he went from a guy that had an opportunity
to get a head coaching job to being out of
the league.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
Yeah, well out of the league. Listen, I'm not gonna
go there Byron Leftwick was a good quarterback during this time.
What he was able to do in Tampa with Brady
what's phenomenal. Obviously being able to coach one of the
greatest of all time, if not the Rights.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
And he I thought they were the guys that call.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Yeah, but if you notice every other quarter, every other
every of the offensive coordinator that has ever coached Tom Brady,
what has he got in the NFL? Oh Joe head
coaching job, Charlie Weiss, Bill O'Brien, Josh McDaniel, three play

(56:27):
callers got job. One guy Bill O'Brien never won a
super Bowl with him. He lost, he was he was,
he lost. This guy won a super Bowl calling plays.
But you know how they would look at it.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
They would look at it like Tom Brady, regardless of
who is called him play for you?

Speaker 1 (56:47):
He was?

Speaker 3 (56:47):
You called him play for Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
So regardless was he not? Was he not the quarterback
for Charlie Rice?

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Was he not the quarterback for Bill O'Brien, Was he
not the quarterback for Josh McDonald? He ain't got so bad.
Josh McDaniel got three, got another job. Hell, he got
the job holdo on, o jo. He got the job
at Denver. We know what he did. We don't need
to bring that up. Got the job at Endy and said,
you know what, be a fax and said nine, gonna
take the job. I'm gonna stay here and then win

(57:14):
got another job. Right, But there's a there's a difference.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
You understand what you know what I'm not making I'm
not making a show about this. I mean the writings
on the wall. The proof is in the pudding. You
can see it for yourself. This saying the first time
this has happened it's happened continuously over and over and over.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
I don't need to say it.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Open your eyes.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Okay. So I'm happy.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
I'm happy.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
I'm happy for him.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
I'm happy for him getting the position there, Marshall Faulk
is there, obviously, Warren Sappa is there. The environment that there,
that Prime is constructing for the players, and the young
men that are there are obviously preparing them to be
able to play at the level at the next level
if they get a chance an opportunity to make it
and have them obviously the two lest from players that

(58:01):
played at the highest level that that that somewhere immensely
great like Prime and Warren Sapp And you have some
that had good careers, you know, and your Briery left
wages and he can help the quarterbacks being that not
only did he play the position, but he also coached
some at the best at the best position. And also
want to ring if I'm not mistaken who Yeah, but

(58:25):
they lost that year with the Bucks.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
No, well he coached what you call Brady. Yeah, that's
what they beat. They beat, they beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta ring, Okay, Yeah, I'm right, I'm right.
I staying corrected.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Okay, no, no, no, Look, guys want to get they
want to get pro ready quarterback coach uh uh Bat
Shermer in the old C. Marshall running back. Yeah, hall
of fame, sap, Hall of fame D line. He can

(59:00):
get to the quarterback. He's put together a great staff.
Guys that if you have the ability now just because
you go to Colorado, if you ain't got the ability
to play the NFL, I don't give it.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Damn. I don't give them who coaching right.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
If you can do it or you can now, they
might help you with some technique and some little stuff,
but you got to have the ability to go get it.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Who's house? Prime's house? Prime shows off his backyard. Oh
you check this out.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Let me see it, let me see, let me see it.
What Oh that's that's the one in Texas.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Huh yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Yeah, oh yoh, yoh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Be doing too much. If it wasn't, if it wasn't
the lady it was, I will call him. I will
call him to borrow. You do it too much?

Speaker 3 (59:54):
That's nice or that's nice, And I.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Would tell him I was gonna fish it wann't a
positive before you realize I had the face fried up
on the bank. Because you make you throw the fish
back on, yo, I'm a fried book.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
You do you make you put them back? Yeah, yeah,
make you put them back. He let you keep And
that's a good one. That's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
At some point the fish gott to understand what's going
on and stopped biting on the goddamn line.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
They're not gonna be able to do that, especially if
you're catching while they're bedding, because hey they bedding.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Hey that's free food.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Or they try to sometimes they try to take that
and get that out of their bed. Yeah, Jayalen mill
rolls officially. Mill Row officially runs unofficially four three seven
in the forty yard dash of Alabama pro da oyo.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Check out this video. Hey, putting them down on Joe,
you're putting them up. Put them down one foot in
front of the other.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
I don't care nothing about that. And for a quarterback,
I don't care nothing. I saw. I saw the greatest
quarterback currently run five two five.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Yeah, five to five. It don't mean nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
But also being able to run four three seven it
means something, especially in today's game with all the dual
threat quarterbacks that we do have that our elite Alla
Josh Allen, Allah, Jamar Jackson players.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
The fastest kill me, the fastest quarterback they ever won
a Super Bowl, and the fastest quarterback in the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
I'll wait, go ahead, No, No, I mean you right
by that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
You're right by that. But I'm just I'm just telling you.
I'm giving you a different perspective.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
I'm giving you a different perspective on how it's helped
immensely being able to do two things and just not
be one dimension. It's okay to be able to have
a quarterback that can use his legs. Look at the group,
Look at the growth of Lamar Jackson. Look where he
is now, Look how far he's come. It ain't even
about running no more. I'm running only if I have to,

(01:02:16):
because I become now I'm a pass. I'm a pass
to the ball. You know so, so, Brother mil Milroe.
Being able to run that fast as all is great.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
It's a good thing. But had you seen what he
could do with his arm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Not nearly consistent enough?

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Yeah, I'll listen. At some point, at some point you will.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Be tell me who the fastest guy to ever win
the Super Bowl and the fastest guy in the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
That's all I'm waiting for.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
There's a lot of fastest in the Hall of for
you fast now, no at quarterback?

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Quarterback? Mm hmm, let me think. Hold on, Johnny Knight,
it's in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Maybe he is.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Yeah, Johnny ran four four in the twenty that's my consistency.
I mean, that's that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Oh, at the end of the day, Oh, Joey gotta
throw it h all right, Oh joe it's time for
our last segment.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Who were getting off for ready?

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Yeah? Shot them?

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Pope?

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Oh, no time for Q and A. Give us, come on,
give us our graphics.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
We just we just got home. I done, took a
five hour nap. Yeah, I got energy and you leaving.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Shot them? Pope said, Oh, you enjoyed playing Chi and Roulette?

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
I did, I did, say say say I did.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
It's a good game. It's a good game. I can
see how that game can get your ass in trouble.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
Yeah, especially you, babe.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
A group of y'all around you know, ohr y'all, your
you gold, you and your buddy and and y'all and
women and some bag and begas. So y'all can coon
or Jamaica. Yeah, some freaky ish about the Bappa dark
Barnes said, got a question for Ojo and his opinion
who was better being a receiver due or Jamar and

(01:04:34):
T or him and TJ. O.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
That's a good one. That's a good one. And obviously
we didn't throw we were are. Yeah, it's a good one.
We didn't throw the ball. Throw the ball not like that.
That stopped playing. Now you know, we ain't throw the
ball like that. Now you see what the boys doing today.
They run one hundred plays in ninety eight of them throwing.
You know, but listen you, I love I love myself

(01:04:56):
and TJ. Man, I love us to death, and I
as much those too, Yeah, as much as I love
Jamar and t and praise them like like I'm a preacher.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
I will always take me and TJ over there no
matter what. And that's what I all do.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Respect what them boys doing, and they're gonna continue to
do for that franchise, But it always be me and TJ.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Boy ain't ain't ain't nothing like that. Ain't nothing like it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
And people wouldn't understand it, especially the younger generation unless
you were there. You had to be there and it
would have had to see it live and in person
to understand.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Doctor Frank al Bellaman said, uh, speak of church. Oh,
the way you were citing job on first take was awesome.
You sure you don't want to be a preacher? The
pull pill would be rocket o Choko could be your deacon.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
Yeah, yeah, pay hey hey, I had to put me
in the pool pit now yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
I Uh. When I was a little boy, Uh, the
pastor of the church told my grandmother, say, Marry, that
boy had.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
The way words.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
He said, a lot of people can talk, Mary, he said,
but very few people can speak. That boy can speak.
And uh, you know I'm saying yah, I'm a kid.
I probably was like ten eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
But uh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Uh to like like, there's nothing like hearing a great speaker.
To hear uh, to go back and listen to doctor
doctor King. Just hear him speak, to hear Churchill, to
hear him speak, to hear jfk. And to hear him
speak and Takashi coats to hear him speak. There's some
there's some people that have a voice. And because there's

(01:06:44):
in order to be a a great orator. You must
have a cadence. There's a sequence that your voice can
elevate and ride, I mean rise and then fall. If
you hear if you hear doctor King, just listen for
the cadence, Yeah, in which he speaks.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
That's everything you know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
You know who else you can hear it in recently
and that cadence Obama? Yeah, if you live, if you
listen to Obama, you can hear that kings as well
with him when he goes high and goes low and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
He's able to the ability to command the heir. He
got it. It's a gift. Yeah, it's a gift.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Mm hmm. Malcolm X.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Yeah, no, Rush seventy five, no jibe, I'm alive, Jay
two or three? Hey hno, yoe? Who is one person
dead or live? You want to sit down and have
a conversation with excluding family?

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Oh, Frank Sinatra, Frank Sinatra, I mean, if you know
me and my.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Love for for for the music, the arts and dance
and theater and all the things that I like Sinatra
for what he stood for, you know, in a time
when you really shouldn't be standing for it. If you
know what I mean, you don't, Yeah, And man the
opportunities that he gave people of color during his time.

(01:08:17):
Man Sinatra, I would love and still to this day,
I have an appreciation for him, his music and everything
he's done, not only as an artist, but away from
you know, music as well. Some of the things he
fought for the opportunities he gave others, refusing to play
in certain places unless you know who was also affording

(01:08:40):
the same opportunities in those rooms. Oh, Man Sinatra. Now
there's so many other great ones. I'm just telling you
about mine, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
And yeah, yeah, I mean for me, probably doctor King
Malcolm X. Yeah. I've always been drawn to people that
could that could speak great orators h and Prince Prince

(01:09:08):
Prince Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
It's reazy. Who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
One?

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Two? If Joe's gonna get hurt? Cut?

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
The Bengals had to uh get pe teachers in Jim
Brows for the old line and the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
When do you know we got for our whole line again?

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Uh pe Teachers and Jim Rows? Uh old Joe?

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Do the Broncos have the most stacked roster in the
AFC West?

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
After free agency? Who do you think the Denver is
going to want at pick twenty. Well you got your quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Yes, they're going, They're going receiver.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
You think so? Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Absolutely, okay, okay, absolutely they're gonna they gonna get them
playing make on that board. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
I can tell you because I like Sutton. Yeah, I
like something too. I like something, but they need they
need let me get.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
With them tight ends. Mm hmm yeah, got it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
I mean, uh, Omaron Hampton running back North Carolina. Is
what Mark drafts say because they let Javonte Davis go.
Uh William Javonte Williams. Another Carolina kid, Brody Burton. I'm

(01:10:37):
saying this the old cho no lincoing, no sucking toes,
no farting around me. Blake of the five Jeredi Williams say,
h oldho. My birthday was yesterday. I'm forty five, but
I don't look a day over thirty eight. Jerediah, thank you.
Happy birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
By Happy birthday, Happy birthday.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
We're in the same boat too. Sure, I don't look
at that. I don't look at day over twenty five.
People tell me that all the time in person.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Boy you look so young. Boy, what's what's your skincare routine?
So I told him I ain't really got nothing. I
just eat right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
I don't know what this is save for tomorrow. Frid
Brown makes his player say forty.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Okay. I was gonna say, what what is this?

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Oh okay, okay, Oh yes, sir, I didn't see they
say same for tomorrow. God that concludes this an a
oh Joe, I haven't been a long day for you, boy,
because I was in I was in Savannah. We just
got back, watched the game. I'm up on the plane
again tomorrow morning. Car pick him up at five thirty.
I'm headed to I'm headed to Charleston.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Okay, okay, what you're doing?

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
You got to so you got a liquor signing. Yeah,
I'm back.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
I'll get I'll get back tomorrow night and I'll be
better because I ain't got anything to do Saturday, I
mean a Friday, So your boy be ready to go.
But I gotta get I gotta get at least three
hours of sleep.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
Well, listen, you are now, don't be surprised if I
pop up on your one of them signings.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Man, and I'm in Miami, you ain't pop up on nothing.
I wasn't here. I wasn't here.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Then, I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
You know, on your little tour, if I pop up,
you know, I in a whole a portier outfit, like
a costume.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Hey, I'm coming to Charleston.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
I hope they got some good break Hey, somebody leave
me something in the chat. Tell me in Charleston way
they got a good breakfast. Because I want some good
old Southern style grits. I want some baker. I want bacon,
crispy scrambled eggs. You know, hey, just like that. I mean,
I mean, I like pancakes, but I ain't gotta have
them grits, eggs, sausage, your baker. Let your boy know

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where I need to go. McDonald's ain't got no damn grits.
No got no damn grits at the McDonald's back. Conclude
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Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
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