Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to LSU and Florida eyeing Lane Kiffin, Arch Manning and Diego Pavia’s career nights, Notre Dame hangs 70 on Syracuse and looking forward to the CFP landscape!
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Joining us in a little bit, will Johnny will be
joining us. Also, running back Kevin Riley joins us a
little later. If I'm not mistaken, I think he scored
a couple of touchdowns today, So looking forward to hear
him talk about the number ten Alabama Crimson tie. Excuse me,
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the number twenty Tennessee Volunteers dominate the Florida Gators. They
go into the Swamp win for the very first time
since two thousand and three, when retired coach Urban Myral
was watching from this Florida sideline. The ball scored touchdowns
on their first four possessions and led thirty one nothing
at halftime, easily the most dominant thirty minutes of the
football against Florida since the nineteen ninety They outgained the
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Gators three twenty three to one ten in the opening half,
had nineteen first downs. Oh y'all, yeah, I mean, look,
we know Florida, they've already fired the coach. They're going
to have a new head coach. Yes, LSU is going
to have a new head coach. Yes, now you know
you hear.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Rumors saying like Lane Kiffin is kind of leaning towards LSU.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
We don't know. They threw out ninety million dollars plus
another twenty twenty five million roster.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Does the Florida.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Gator hopes Penn whether or not Lane Kiffins takes this job,
or there's someone else can come in and do and
make Florida what we know Florida to be what they've
been for a very very long time. Can it get them?
Can somebody who can come in and get them back
to respectability? You know what?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I have no idea. I think Lane Kiffin would have
been been a great coach. He could have got recruits
in there, some five stars, some actual players. But I
think the offer that we've seen I saw it on
Twitter as well, with ninety million being offered to Lane
Kiffin with twenty five million for the roster. As far
as being able to bring bring kids in, I think
that I think he's already locked up now. As far
as the coach that that can be also attracted, does
(05:59):
that just not the Gators, but also UH players coming in,
high school players that are that hit the portal of
the come yeah, that want to come to Florida and play.
I'm not sure who that coach is. I'm not sure
who it is at all. I think Florida right now,
They're they're in a tough spot. They didn't they didn't
play well to forget to forget to day. They had
some some some some good games throughout the season, but
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they're nothing like the Florida Gavors Gators of old, where
they would always be able to compete against the best
of the best weekend and week out. I think that
Florida Gator team or teams like that are long gone.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Three SEC schools have their site set on Lane Kipping,
obviously the school that he's currently at, the old mess
Florida Gators, and the LSU Tigers. Kiffin's former boss, Nick Saban,
spoke past Lyleb on universes competing for Kiffin's services before
the season is even over. Coach Saban said, we need
to take a better approach to the business aspect of
what we do in college athletics. In the NFL, you
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cannot leave your team until the season is finished playing.
You can't talk to another coach in the regular season,
and there are defined times in which you can talk
to them if they're in the playoffs. That's the way
it should be, so it's not a Lane kiff in conundrum.
This is a college football conundrum that we need some
leadership to step up and change the rules on how
it gets done in terms of coaching searches and opportunities
(07:17):
for people to leave. That's where it should be, regardless
of what Lane decides to do. Unless you was reported
to offer Kiff in ninety million dollar contract, which would
tie him as the highest paid coach in the sport,
alongside promising twenty five million in related roster investments exceeding
twenty five million.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Kiffin is expected to announce his future after next week's
rivalry game against the Mississippi State Bulldogs, which we currently
know as.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
The Egg Bowl. O Jo, You agree with coach Saban.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
There needs to be some uniformity about when these coaches,
when other universities can talk to coaches, and when coaches
can actually leave because as he mentioned, we've seen it before,
that's done it before. It's Brian Kelly saw him leave
Cincinnati and go to know to day you see him
and so we see this. It's not the first time
(08:09):
that it's happened. And as coach Saban says, you know
a lot of times if a player gets hurt, it
whether it decides whether or not they get to go
to a bowl game or the type of bowl game
that they go to. We saw this happen with Florida
State last year. They got the breaks beat off them.
But lane Kiffin leaving before Old Miss, they might be very,
very reluctant to have them play in the college football playoff. Oho,
(08:32):
if your head coach leaving and you have an interm
head coach, so what were you on this?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I don't I don't think. I don't think it really
affects him coach, whether whether lane Kiffin leaves or not.
But let's let's go back to protocol and the way bness,
the way bunness should be handled when it comes to
other other organizations or entities talking to coaches, especially in
this in this situation lane Kiffin, while he's still an
Old Miss, if a coach is if a coach is
playing bad and his team is losing, right, is it
business in protocol or what's that word? Yeah, that's new
(09:01):
for me. I'm right that with down in my notes.
Conundju that conundrum before he gets fired, then he get
fired right on the spot, or do they do they
handle the business and wait till the season over to
let him go.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
They fired during the season.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Okay, there we go, there we go.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So you believe you should be able you should be
able to like obviously the coaches are not leaving during
the season, but you believe like once the season is over,
not be able to coach in the bowl game because
it's like an NFL. The NFL, they can fire you,
but you can't talk to a coach. Another coach can't
leave and say, you know what, my season is over,
let me go because they changed that rule. Remember Lane
(09:34):
Keffy was the offensive coordinator at the Rams. The Rams
were out of the playoffs. He ends up going back
coaching for the Patriots. So they changed that rule now,
so once everybody's season is over, you can't have a
coach go help with the offensive defense or bill special
assistant if he had another job. With that being said,
the NFL O, YO, you know if a coach we
(09:54):
saw this, what ag Aaron Glenn, We saw Ben Johnson.
We saw a lot of different get head coaching jobs
that was OC or DC's, but they weren't able to
leave those jobs until their team season was finished. They
ken't like, oh, well, I'm a head coach of a
new team. Now, damn y'all the playoffs, I'll be damn.
I got to go get ready for my new team.
(10:16):
So you believe, well, if they fired coach during the season,
that once the season is over, that coach should be
able to leave his post. We a head coach of
offensive coordinator and go coach at another school.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Listen, when you get fired, you gotta leave asaf, don't you.
You got to pack your things, you got to get
your u houl, and you got to get up out
of there. Now. I think with Lane kipen situation at
Old Miss, I think he's going to finish the season. Now,
conversations can be had with whatever program you want to
so you understand what the forceee of your future is
going to look like and where you want to go.
(10:47):
So you can get a head start in preparing on
where you're going to go and still be able to
finish your season at Old Miss. Do the Egg Bowl,
and if just so happened, if you guys make make
the playoffs, if it does happen, then still be able
to coach yourself through that and then obviously the next
season when it follows through. Hell, you got six goddamn
months you got six months to prepare for that, do
(11:08):
all the contractual stuff that needs to be done, and
it's over with. And it also lets players know that
might have been coming to Old Miss now you have
an opportunity to transfer, getting the portal and come on
down there, uls you if that is just this destination place.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, I definitely think they need some uniformity.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I think they need to have a window in which
a guy at which you know, collegiate teams, the coaches
can talk to other players about entering the portal, have
an opportunity once the portal open and be done with it.
I think eventually, oh Jo, they're gonna start doing They're
gonna do away with uh spring games because well, I'm
not gonna let you. I'm not gonna let you get
a look at out my players, so that you you
(11:45):
open up the window, the window opens up, and the
player wants to leave, he wants to leave, and we'll
move on from there. It's just tough because for the
longest time n C A A hass has monopolized the situation.
And once they did a way, once he kind of
got this nil program, it became the kind of the
wild wild West.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Don't yo.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And so there are really no rules and regulations, and
I think you gotta have some rules of regulation. You
just can't have arbitrary and it's got to be a situation.
Oh Joe, you can't have a guy when you know what,
I got a million dollars to go to Florida, Man,
Florida ain't doing right, hey, Arkansas, Georgia. Somebody's what y'all
got believe there? He goes there, man, y'all some bull
job over here too, and just jump jump jump jump.
(12:27):
I don't think I don't think a player should be
able to do that way.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
No, that's not fair. Don't do that. Don't regulate us
now now that we have the opportunity and the rabbit
got the gun, that's not fair. Listen, there were no
rules and regulations when we need schools were monopolizing and
making all this money off these players likeness. Now all
of a sudden, the players have opportunity to cut the
middleman out, and now we get to get some money,
you know, for our likes and to be able to
hop from school to school, and coaches being able to
(12:51):
hop from school to school when they want to. Now,
all of a sudden, you want to regulate regulation.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Jump it every year.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oho, coaches, they jumping every year.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I mean even if even that he listen, this.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Is not to the point now, Ojo. It's just hard
these guys, the players have gotten so sensitive.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
O yo. If I coach you hard, I got a
worry about you jumping in the portal.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Hey, but listen, matter of fact, let me tell you something.
The ones that's like that, the one that jumping in
the portal, back and forth, back and forth, and it
can't be coach hard. They really ain't like that anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
But it ain't go get money somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Why wouldn't they really not the one? For one, those
are not the ones that's gonna make it to the
next level anyway. If you hopping from portal to the
portal for for for whatever the issues may be, Oh
my coaching coaching me hard, or I'm not getting the
opportunity to play unless you that guy, it doesn't matter anyway.
They're not gonna impact your team whether they stay or go.
Think about it. Just think about all the good all
the really really really good players they hop in the
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portal for an opportunity to actually start and showcase their talent.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Okay, So now I get there, I get some money,
and things don't go as well as I hope to.
Now you just up and go go leave again, because
you know, it's just like a player, oyo. You get
drafted in the first round. Even if you some slough,
you're gonna get opportunities because that was not the only
team that had you graded in the first round. So
somebody else is gonna give you an opportunity. You know,
(14:08):
the how you drafted, the more opportunities you're gonna get. Yes,
So a guy comes out and he's a five star,
even if he goes to a university and they give him,
let's just say a half a million dollars. We don't
got to talk about anything astronomical. Let's just say he
gets a half a million dollars, oh joe. Even if
it doesn't work out there, somebody's gonna give him some
money to jump into the portal because he was a
five star. And they're not a five star that just
(14:31):
has one offer you a five star. You got multiple offers.
And there are a lot of times. There're probably ten
fifteen big time schools Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Tennessee,
so forth and so on, So those opportunities will present themselves.
I just think we've got there used to be no
speed limit, but at some point in time we have
(14:52):
to have rules and regulations. And no matter what the
case is, there used to be no rules or regulations
on banking or mining or anything like that. Your thing.
You're asking for trouble as long as you don't have
rules and regulations.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I think how to put rules and regulations in.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
But there's no trouble in that. If a player wants
to leave, he should be able to leave. You shouldn't
be able to regulate that that that that that that
that doesn't make any sense. It's like if you if
you're in school. Let's say no money is involved and
you're in school. Hell, I go to FAM. You you
know what I want to leave Fam? You? I want
to go to Patum Cookman.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I don't like it here? You know what I want
to go to Howard. You should be able to hop
and bounce as you see fit. Now, how about this
about you just got to pay my money back?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Bingo?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Why don't that just get ready? Say that you want
to have foods and regulations? Hey, if I choose to
leave a percentage of that money, a percentage of that
in al money has to go back. Okay, okay, how
about that. Now that makes a.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Little bit more sense.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
But restricting that.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
To lead because I ain't tried to get you.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I ain't tried to get you, no refund, right, right, Yeah,
you're right, because it's.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Kind of it's kind of like rent.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Well, if I stay past the do date, you gonna
have to pro so you're gonna have to pro rate
it with amount of time wa won.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
But I'm leaving on the tent.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You mean to tell me I got to pay a
four month's rent and I ain't there for ten days? Yep,
because you didn't get your ass out of the first
So it's it's excuse me. It's gonna be tough because,
like you said, once we get accustomed to something, it's
hard to get us uncustomed to that because for the
(16:26):
most part, once the nil hit, it was just like
a free fraud. Now all of a sudden, you're gonna
put some camps on. They're like, what on m Yeah,
I don't think. I don't think I'm gonna be able
to ride along with that. So it's gonna be very
interesting because you know, you know, I know it's coming.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
They're not gonna just let just.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Let guys just arbitrary just get five six, seven million dollars.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
And you might.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
It's only a few of them. It's only about two
or three of them. So it's not like all of
them are getting that. Now, you know the players that's
getting that kind of Jeremiah smissed the arch mannings. We
took about the best of the best. Everybody ain't eating
like that.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
No, But I'm saying they're gonna, they're gonna they're gonna
put a cab because the here's the thing. Oh, you
do realize, like once a guys start getting paid, I
get to treat him as such. You show up late
for meeting, I find you, you miss Waite, I find you.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
You know you late for Burt, you curfew study Hall.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I find you because theoretically, although you're a collegial athlete,
I d amateur athlete, you're getting paid, so now you're
a professional. So I have to treat you as such,
because that's what would happen if you're in the NFL.
If you're late for a meeting, you miss a meeting,
you're late to practice, you miss practice or a team
schedule function, you miss that, or you're late to that,
you get fined. You have to be under the same
(17:43):
guidelines because for the longest time, oh yo, we've forgiven
it's like, oh man, he's a kid.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
There's a college kid. I mean they make a little money.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh you know, they make a little hush on the side,
but it wasn't like what it is now, these guys
making fifteen hundred thousand, two hundred five three four five million.
So I think the thing is is that we've kind
of taken we're kind of taking the reins off o
Jo and we we we we we judged these kids
a little harsher now than what we did, say when
we were in school or the last they last ten years. Now,
(18:13):
we don't look at these kids like, bro, he're making money.
Jeremi Smith making four million dollars a Year's some receivers
in the NFL that don't make four million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And those receivers that don't make fourty million dollars in NFL,
they ain't Jeremiah Smith either. He makes listen for a reason.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Normally, you would expect the professional to make more than
an amateur.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I mean you would would you call the whole if that?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Who want to be a pro? Why not just stay
on amateur?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Let me let me tell you something. There's a reason
he makes the four million dollars he makes. Even those
that are already in the NFL, they don't look like him.
It all.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Let me say he don't make four million, he makes
a million. How he looking?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Hold?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Oh, he's looking real good right now. He's looking real good.
And it's also about timing, it's all. It's also about timing,
you know when in Il happened. So it's kind of it's.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Kind of different. Did you not see him in the
Rose Bowl? Did you not see Jaxon Smith?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
But hey, I'm sure he got something.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
It would that might have been the greatest receiving performance.
I saw this guy. He was at Louisiana. I forget
he ended up going to the Steelers. He ended up
having four hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
The short, the short, the short guy.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It didn't work out for him in the NFL, but
he had him a day against Nebraska. It's just it's
just tough, o yo. It's uh, you know, I think
the thing is that because we look at free agency
and we look at baseball, we look at basketball, we say, okay,
that's free agency.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
A picture can.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Make fifty million, seventy million dollars a year, A first
basement can.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Work, make whatever it's not slotted.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
What quarterbacks make this, running backs make this, and wide
receivers make that, and then you got a cap.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Well that's theoretically that's not free agency.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
If the market should bear, should set what a player
can make. In college, the market sets it. It ain't no.
You can't say, well, Jeremiah Man, you only receiver. You
can't get no for me.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I don't think it's the market. The market doesn't set it.
The actual player sets it.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
In the NFL, we don't have we don't have a
market because there's no free agency. So Creacy, I got
to be totally free with no restrictions, no salary cap
over here, no this or that. You can't franchise me.
You don't have no right of first refusal. Hey, my
time is up. Oh tell you work a regular job.
Your contract in. I'm free to go. If I'm at Google,
(20:37):
I'm free to go work for Apple. I got free
to go work for Microsoft. That's in my estimation. That's
how it should be. I ain't got no problem. It's
free market. Hey, I got a product to sell. You
know what, Oh Joe, I got this phone to sell.
You shouldn't be able to say, well, I can only
sell this phone for five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That ain't free. That is no free market.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I should be able if I want to sell this
phone for ten thousand dollars, I should be able to
do it if the market would bear that, if there
are people out there to pay it, Yeah, so be it.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, I mean I got you, I got you. I
kind of I kind of like how it is where
it's free flowing. You know, players can actually choose and
do what they want to do. Because for so many years,
wasn't nobody saying that when all these universities were making
googlebs billions off these players like this, And now they
now that they get opportunity to take advantage, you know,
(21:29):
not not really take advantage, but get what they're old
based off their life and their skill set. I think
I think they should have free reign to do so.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, I mean, look at all all the great players
that came before, and yeah, oh cho, they got a
little couple of bucks.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
On the side here or there.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Oh, it ain't nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
They got a little car here, they got some jewelry there,
but they ain't getting no money like what the kid
is making now. Yeah, they ain't even mad at him.
You look at a guy like Archie Manning. Arch Manny
gonna be in a hand, He's gonna be on stashed
about twelve million dollars by the time he get to
the NFA.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And the funny thing about it, look at all the story,
look at all the horror stories you've heard of collegiate
athletes getting in trouble because they're hungry, taking clothes, stealing
ste Yeah, yeah, I just just food, not be able
to eat, like like it's been too much, too many
of gotten in trouble. So now they have an opportunity
to be able to offend for themselves, take care of
their families a little earlier than than normal, not having
(22:19):
to wait on the NFL check. I think, just just
let let it be.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Let it be.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
No, they're gonna put some rules.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
They gonna put some rules in place, because right now
there's not a whole lot of rules, even the NCAA,
even with the Congress and try to say, look, we
got we got to have something about it. We gotta
And I agree with coach Saber. The coach is once
your season is officially open, I don't believe you should not.
So now, guy Lane Kip, let's just say he gets
to supposed to coach. He takes this job after the
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Egg Bowl, he's supposed to coach in the SEC Championship.
He's like, nah, I ain't gonna coach. I'm gonna going
down here to my team. Or he gets an opportunity
to go play in the college football Nah. But knowing no,
hold on, I give you prime example coach him Beckler.
You remember who was the guy that left. They were
in the national they would go in the n c
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DOAA tournament, and the guy had accepted another job, and
both shimp Beckers said, nah, he ain't gonna stay. We
want a Michigan man. I think it was Fisher that
ended up getting the end them job and coaching, and
they end up winning the national championship in nineteen eighty nine.
But both shim Beckers said, nah, nah, you go ahead
and go where you're gonna go. I don't need you
to wear here because I want a Michigan man to
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coach a Michigan team, not somebody that's at Michigan right now.
But he's already accepted the job. He's gonna be somewhere
the moment I seen. I don't think they end up
winning a championship.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, I don't think Lane will do that. I think
he's gonna finish the task at hand. He's gonna finish
the assignment. You know, he started the season and.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Hoping, uh oh, missus hoping that he does that because
he can thank you about it.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I say he finished, he gonna finish. I didn't say
he was saying.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
No, no, no, I'm saying they're hoping that he does. Yeah,
he does what you said he's gonna do. If they
get an opportunity they're fortunate enough to play in the
SEC title or if they get a college football playoffs first,
hopefully they because old Miss. I mean when you think
of Old Miss and you think of like, okay, when
the next time they're gonna get an opportunity play in
the college football playoffs. Yeah, I mean since Lane, they've
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gotten guys that go into the NFL and guy played
playing at a high level. So you know, sometimes it's
a once in a lifetime opportunity. Hopefully you're right that
he gets this, because I believe he's gone. It's just
that these other programs can offer what Old Miss can.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yes, yeah, you're right, you're right. I mean, shoot, I mean,
who who will stay? Who would stay?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
With the numbers that money? Oh Joe, that's a lot
of money. That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
That's a lot of money, and maybe Old Miss could
you know, give him I don't know how many what
is it? Nine? What an eight year deal? How many?
How many years is the deal? Yeah, there's ninety millionaire
the ten years, that's nine million a year?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Eight years?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Eleven and a half a year? I mean, what's the deal?
I think Kirby makes like thirteen seven years? Wow, So
so that's about that's that's Kirby.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
That's that's right, thirteen.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That's that's Kirby's number.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Hey, it's just it's just hard, oh Joe, it's gonna
it's just hard to.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Turn that kind of money down. Yeah, and it's not
because all those programs and he's done a great job
of building. Oh it's fourteen, oh Joe, So it's ninety
eight million, oh, seven years, ninety eight million. Oh yeah, yeah,
because it's Oh Joe, it's hard. Now, if that's a
pre emit of program, let's just say that's Ohio State, right,
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that's Notre Dame, that's Alabama, that's Michigan, that's USC. We
get it, him staying if they match it. Oh Miss
is not the same tier as Florida in the same conference.
But it's not the same tier as Ohio. Georgia is
not Alabama, it's not Florida, it's not LSU, it's not Texas,
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it's not Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's just not Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I mean so, man, it'd be hard to turn that
kind of money down.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Man, turn that down. Man, Please listen, Lane kid, he
get there. You understand the type of players he can get,
he can attract. You know, those people jumping in the portal,
there's a good chance they might look like they did
back in twenty nineteen. I'm not saying they're gonna have
a Joe Burrow. I'm not saying they're gonna have a
Jamar Chase to Justin Jefferson. But they can get back
to that. And if he can turn Old Miss around
the way he did, he can damn show turner LSU around.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
We saw what he did at Alabama. Yeah, when he
had Amari Cooper and he had those guys. So just
imagine him getting a tier, a little notch, more more
five stars, bigger guy from the portal. But the way
he can call plays on visibly, Yeah, because you could
say what you want to say. You can say is
arrogant and all that other stuff. But there ain't no
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denying that he can call. He's one of the great
mind in college football. And I don't know he he
He's been to Tennessee, he's been the Old Miss. Now
he's coached at Alabama. Now he's about to be at LSU.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Seemingly that's all eras are porting in those in that direction.
So fourteen million, Oh Joe, I don't know, yo, what's up?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Oh? So you think about coaching now, huh? You see
you see what I told you? Think about it, think
about it on the road. But listen, listen, head coach,
head coach, sharp what you can't be on the road
because what BA bad? Okay, But listen, you just coach
the home games, no problem, ain't no problem. You just
coach the home games. I'll be your assistant head coach
and I take over the games on the road.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Boom problem the road.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Huh hey you know he can I tell you? Can
I tell you something that I just heard?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Right?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
A little birden. Now, I'm not sure thinks when you
see stuff like this most of the time, if there's smoked,
there's a fire somewhere that the head coach, the head
coat coaching job is going to be available down there.
Fam you now, I mean what you think about me
and you going down to FAM? You moving moving to Tallahassee.
You can coach all the games at home, all the
games on the road, I take over. Think about all
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the players we can get in the portal to come
on down there to Tallahassee.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Why would I go catch?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Why would I go coach coach another HBC U school
and my agebcus.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Because your ABC don't got the kind of money we
got down there.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Well, it wouldn't be about the money for me.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
The hell that hell, it don't state to do well.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
If it's orange team, any team that got orange in
their uniform, Adam HBC you do well, it's damn sure're gonna.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Be now you heard that lie you just told It's
a good thing. It ain't Sunday talked about it ain't
about the money. The hell it ain't. If it wasn't
about the money, Lane Kiffy be staying right and goddamn old.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Miss o Jo, I'm saying, it's not about the money
for me, o Jo. You going to an o Jo,
You going to an HBC You they not finna pay
you no fourteen million?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You don't so that, So slim it down, slimming down,
swim it down. You don't know what we got. We
we don't know what You don't know what we got?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Ye, probably the high paid HBCU coach probably makes three
to four hundred thousands.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Hey, let me tell you something, man, I listen hunt.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, Michael Beach, the high paid he made four hundred k.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
So what you're trying to do, you're trying to get
his money that I give you a we Hey listen,
I talked, I talked to the program. We give you
five hundred, we give you five hundred five five million,
nfl U n I l ros no, and you can
and you can bring the dog with you. No Teddy
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say no go it's all and uh listen, I'm I.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Think our gators in Florida and they be trying to
get me.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
He'll be all right, He'll be all right. They gonna
speed him right back out. I'm just listen. I'm just
trying to diversify.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
They they well, they definitely get Teddy be cause Teddy
k run. At least Thos Panatos might be Fatos might
be able to get away.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Can you get away?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
All you gotta do is zig zag gun. You know,
Gator's only fast in the straight line.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Hey, they run, They run fast enough. Oh, Joe arch Manning.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Arch Manning probably had his best performance in his career
at Texas.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
He threw for a career high three hundred and eighty
nine yards a count of for six total touchdowns and
a fifty two to thirty seven win over the Razorbacks.
Manning did something not even Vince Young, any other Texas
quarterback had ever done at the university. He became the
first player in school history to catch a touchdown, throw
a touchdown, and rush for a touchdown. Look, I don't
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want to get I don't want to get too far
over my skis. Yeah, because it was Arkansas, But yeah,
when you do something that university, that's one hundred and
twenty five hundred and fifty years old and no other
quarterback had ever done that in a history. We gotta
give it kudos. Even though it was against Arkansas, right,
it's still he still had himself to day eighteen thirty
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three eight nine four TDW four interceptions. They still can't
run it down football, so you had to throw it
like that. Yeah, but Livingston had two for one to
oh four and a touchdown most of the field, four
for eighty one, Ringo six for eighty one more three
for seventy four, so they had they they he had
a day throwing the football. Yeah, he just But I
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think in order for them to be what they really
want to be. Oo, yeah, they got to have some
resemblance of a run game.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Well you know, you know what, they got to have
a run game. But I like this for arch I
liked it for ours because you're going to get into
games where you can't run the ball and the fact
that your run game has been your keys hill all
season longer. You haven't been able to run and teams
are making you one dimensional. I know they played Arkansas,
but the fact that you were one dimension and you're
able to be successful, you know, doing what you struggle with,
you know, throughout damn did the whole season, you know,
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as far as the passing game is concerned, and for
us to go out there and have a game like
he like he had to day four tds for three
eight nine. I will like some of the other receivers
that played for Texas to step up. I would like
some of those for those other receivers to step up
because I think of Texas, I think of one of
the schools that should be somewhat equivalent to the L
S U s in the Ohio States as far as
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pumping out you know, top tier receivers that that should
be going into the first round, and I just haven't
seen that yet this year. Ringo, who's who I thought
was was supposed to be that guy, he hasn't just
he hasn't shown me enough this year.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Outside of that arch Man, I'm glad to see him
playing well again. Even though they played we want to
you want to steer caution to win because they were
playing Arkansas. Yeah, we'll see what happened.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Who's fired their coach during the season.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Thinking about we got Arkansas that fired their coach, Florida
that fired this Florida so we got three coaches in
the SEC that got fired in the middle of the season.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I have one question, do the do Does Texas have
another test before the season ends?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah? A and M O shoot next week?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Hey, now see now that's gonna be Please tell me
they're playing in Texas A and M so so I can.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Go to the game they playing in Texas.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Damn it. I don't know. No, I don't know nobody
at Texas and.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
So that's now. He puts a performance like this against
A and M. Let's talk, let's talk. We can talk, Yes, sir, yes, sir,
And listen with.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
The confidence, with the confidence he's built in this game
and you know, the San Jose even though those games
don't count, being able to put up performance like this
regards to who you're playing. You go into Texas A
and M next week that with that confidence already built up. Listen,
he might he might throw for five hundred. You never know,
Star said Vince Young.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
K was at the game and came up to him
after saying, man, I wish I could have had to
play like that.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Oh you're talking about like the Philly the Philly Special.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah that thing.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, Yeah, that was nice. That was nice.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Well, Vince, you did everything else.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Damn you want to single Handley won the national championship, Dude,
I mean you put on you put on one of
the greatest performances.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, championship in history. Yeah, I mean, and then.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
The year before you did a number on Michigan. Yeah.
And I think he almost threw for two hundred and
ran for two hundred. So he had he put together
a year and then to do what he did against
against USC that was doing for a third straight national championship.
When they had all those guys, Matthew Landon, Reggie Bush,
Lyndall White, you know, they had cushions, they had Clay
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Matthews junior, they had a boy, and Ben Young said, nah,
they had a squad.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Stars were shining on Texas that night.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Diego Pavia threw four career high four hundred and eighty
four yards Old Joe five touchdowns as the number four
team Vanderbilt Commodores beat the Kentucky wild Cats by the
score of forty five seventeen. The Commodores kept their hosts
for College Football Playoff birth alive going into the regular
season finale. Fabia who struck he had another heisman Poles
celebrating with his teammates set the program record topic four
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hundred and sixty four passing yards, by which Taylor had
against Tennessee in nineteen eighty one. Pavia ran for another
forty eight yards and a sixth score. Vandy coach Clark
lel said he's the best player in the country and
deserves to be in the Heisman conversation. He tips the
field when he steps on it. There are only a
few players in the world that when the balls in
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their hand, you can't that can take over a game,
and he's done that repeatedly here. According to Vegas, Fernando
Mendoza still holds the highest Heisman Trophy odds at minus
one twenty. Meanwhile, Jordan's Saying holds the second best at
three sixty. Diego Pavia improved his odds to plus six fifty.
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O Joe ye, he was thirty three or thirty nine
eight four five touchdowns, the one in receptions. He was
their leading rusher. And again here's a team that really
couldn't run the football today. O Joe, twenty five carries
sixty five yards, not even you know, three yards of carry,
but he was able to do it. Had two receivers
over one hundred yards. Richardson had six for buck fifty nine,
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three tubs. Cheryl had eight pril fifty one fifteen and
a tub. He did a little bit of everything. Like
I said, he ran for a touchdown and he threw
for five or six total touchdown.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
That's crazy. I mean even that interception, you know it
kind of it is what it is. It didn't it
didn't affect the outcome of the game. But this is
another game, though. This is another game, just like the
Texas game. You're playing Arkansas. They playing Kentucky. On they
playing Kentucky. Kentucky not very good offensively and defensively. I'm
sorry to all those Wildcats out there, including my daughter
who goes to University Kentucky. But Pabia did what you
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were supposed to do against an inferior opponent. You're supposed
to throw for forty four. You're supposed to look like this.
The receivers supposed to go off the way they did.
So this is a great game for him. As far
as Heisman hopes, I would have loved him to have
a game like this against some of the bigger schools.
Some of the bigger schools.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Like we played when he played Alabama.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Bingo, like when you you play Alabama's now you have
but they keel as you he had a book game.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I mean, I said, Jordan's saying if Julian saying so yeah, yeah,
but the Ohio State quarterback. But look, Mendoza's played really,
really well and uh, we'll see what he looks like
when they play Ohio State in the Big twelfth Championship.
That seems to be that's gonna be a matchup. Uh,
and we'll see that's not no no, no no no no no.
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Next week it's Ohio State Michigan. That's probably the following week.
So we'll get a we'll get a better we'll get
a better sense Mendoza, we'll get a better sense about
about saying because those are to the you know, the
one and two teams in the country and uh, deservedly so,
both unbeaten, untied. So it's gonna be very very interested
to see how this thing shapes up. But saying, look,
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he's throwing the two top receivers we know he has
Jeremiles Smith. I mean, a guy from Vanderbilt winning the
Heisman Trophy. Be crazy to think that would a school
mainly known for academics, and nobody really thought about ben
Belt until this kid Pabia got there because Vanderbilt used
to be everybody's oncoming, but they put everybody on notice
last year. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
If I'm not mistaken any he isn't he trying to
get another year?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah? No, Pabia, I think I saw he was like
a part of a lawsuit because he went to ju
COO and he's trying to say jue Co is not
a part of it.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Something to that.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, he said, I'm trying to I'm trying to get
some more of these old bandit bucks.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Oh listen, he's staying another yea, he go, he gonna.
He's gonna get itself up up that draft board now.
But going in the next year.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Is that what? Oh he's trying?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah? Oh Joe Oregon tenth wind of the season forty
two seven victory over USC. Dan Lanning had a lot
to say in his postgame news conference, landing fire shots
at the SEC said, we didn't play Chattanooga State today,
right like some of the other places we competed. It's
tough playing nine conference game is tough playing in this league.
I think proofs in the pudding. We can beat you
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in a multiple ways. Right, we can outscore you at times. Right,
we can hold you the eighteen sixteen points type of
game winning, tough environments, any weather, put the ball down,
let's go play football. That's the kind of team that
we have. Landing also took issue with how teams win
are sometimes viewed by the committee. A lot of times
we play really good team and they become unranked all
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of a sudden. That's not our fault. Maybe it is
our fault. The Dust currently tending one seventh in the
CFP rankings, behind three and one loss teams three other
one loss teams Georgia, Texas, Tech Ole miss as of
the last week's ranking.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
You like what coach Landing had to say, Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I like coaches talking shit like oh she man, I
like coaches talking like that. I like them talking them.
I like them talking jazzy because it's the reason the
teams are playing the way they play now. When you
think of Organ of the past, you think of for next,
speed all over the place Organ right now. The game
winning went up front and then everything else takes over
from there. They running the ball, they dominated, they dominated
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the front, they throwing the ball the quarterback more more
had the day to day he was twenty twenty two
for thirty for two TVs. Two fifty seven. They whitting
and had one hundred and four in the ground and
the TV. Hey, they're not the same, Oregon are old
where you call them a for nets team. Oh, they
ain't gonna hit nobody. They weak up front. Man, they
got the meat and potatoes up there, battling, battling the trenches,
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and the skilled position is taken over from there. So
I like I like it.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Talking a little trash though, I like that.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
I mean if USC game a game for a while
and then a little bit and then you know, they
kind of pulled away. I mean it was what twenty
eight fourteen, twenty eight fourteen at the half, both scored
a touchdown, then USC scored six. But look, Oregon's got
a good team. I think if they hold sir, they're
gonna be. They gonna They're gonna be in the college
football playoffs. It's hard. That's the number seventeen seven team
in the country. Yeah, what they got Oregon State probably
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next week, Yeah, we got eleven to one. It's gonna
be hard to leave a team that's in the top
ten out of the college football. It's just it's just
gonna be hard.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I mean, hold on, they might lose the Oregon State
next week.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
That don't do nobody losing the Oregon State.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Don't sleep State, don't sleep on us.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah we slept, were sleeping, don't.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
As Civil War, you never know what might happen never,
you never know.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Well, they the North generally SA rendered the dipomatic courthouse.
So that's why that's where I met on y'all. Look,
I think the SEC is going to nine conference games
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also because yeah, I mean you're playing Mercer, and you
playing Chattanooga and you playing all these teams. Yeah, boy,
that's why I think the thing is is that you know,
you go unscathed in the SEC when you got Alabama
and l s U, and you got you know, you
got Oklahoma and Texas, you got all those teams, you
got all those teams Georgia. But it's gonna be hard
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for you to go unscathed and play all and play
a conference championship game. So it's gonna be hard for
you to be unscathed in these conferences. Moving Yeah, it
just steals it just steals. And I know you know
people like, well a, this is an X, Y and Z,
but it's gonna get harder and harder for you to
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go unscathed.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Well, listen, that's that's that's a good thing. That's a
that's a good thing obviously, because for for us, for
US fans of the collegiate game, that's a good thing
for us. Now, maybe for the committee it might be
a little difficult. It might be a little difficult. Then
maybe they will take an account that. Listen, it's gonna
be difficult for us for teams to go undefeated. So
maybe you have to have some of a little a
little curve when it comes to your judgment and who
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you letting the college football playoffs because it's so difficult.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, I think, I think when you look at I mean,
you got Penn State really down this year, you got Illinois,
you Northwestern, you got some of these teams like Michigan
State is right right, So it's gonna be interested. You know,
I don't I don't envy being in and you know,
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their play, their their position, because you're gonna have to
make some tough decisions. Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna
don't have to make some very very tough decisions. And
if you're not careful her, Old Joe, it's gonna be
the SEC versus the big team. That's who's gonna make
the College football Playoff. Yeah yeah, o Jo. The difference
a little fight as College Football Playoff Kate, the number
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nine ranked No. To Dame Fighting Irish left little doubt
today or the record seven seventy to seven route of Syracuse.
The Irish scored twenty one points before taking the first
damn offensive snape nineteen straight regular season games when facing
elimination from the College Football Playoff discussion many and blow
out fashion. If there's a lingering, lingering, lingering question about
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why the committee ranked No. To Dame as the second
highst of the two lost teams this week, there's answered.
In South Bear, Jeremiah Love boasted his Heisman Trophy Candecy
with one hundred and eight rushing yards and three touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
O yo, oh, hey, what is Syracuse doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Don't look like nothing.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Hey, after the game, after the game, they need to
be out there doing tackling drills.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Well, you remember early in the year, oh Jo, they
had them running wind springs when they lost the game.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Oh that's right, Oh that coach did have. See now,
right now, after the game is over. They shouldn't even
be able to shower everybody outside, and we're doing they
got to.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Be seventy to seven. You ain't doing nothing. You ain't mussy.
You know what I'm saying. They the correct way is musty.
We see mussy man, Get your musky ass out of Listen.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
They played in South Bend, right, yes, yeah, listen.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
I'm not well.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
I can't remember the head coach's name for Syracuse, but
I would have had the plane. We're not going nowhere.
Wait till the stadium clear out. Everybody, come back out here,
put your pass on. We're doing tackling drills. We're not
even getting on the plane. We're not even going home.
We don't even deserve to get on the flight.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
They need to do some offensive drills too, because they
only passed for ninety five yards. They had one hundred
and twelve yard. They only had one hundred and twelve
yards rushing. There are one hundred and twelve yards rushing
on fifty carries. Hold on, no, the Dame had no
chat not the Dame had three hundred and twenty nine
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yards rushing six touchdowns on twenty four carries.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Hold on, let me tell you what's even worse, though.
Think about this, Think about if Syracuse could tackle right.
Think if Syracuse did have defense, was able to stop
the run. Please tell the chat how many yards car
had thrown today?
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Forty nine d had sixty seven to the yards There
were nine of fifteen for sixty seven yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
See if you was able to stop the run. If
you was able to stop the run. Now you're allowing
people to run. If you're able to run on a team,
if you're able to impose your will and move a
man off a spot against his will and freedom, this
is the kind of day you're gonna have. And once
you could do that, it's a rap.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
It's a rap.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
There's no need to throw the ball, there's no need.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
They had less than four because here's the problem that
you run into, is that every time they touch the ball,
they going to hit the head on the goal post post.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yeah, jeorde love, because.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Think about it, you had twenty four rush attempts and
basically a fourth of those ended in a touchdown touchdown.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
I'm curious, I'm curiez. I mean at some point pride
has to set in. You got the one to hit somebody.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Nothing in the first quarter, forty nine nothing at the
have fifty six nothing at the end of three.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Is that disrespectful A mister Franklin running the.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Score up like that, He didn't run his card. I
empty my bitch. Hell. I called a couple of kids
out the stands here, come here, play football, son, No sir,
he'll get in the game. Maybe they can tackle you,
cause they can't tackle me. They can't tackle these kids
that actually played before.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Hey, what you say you put a couple of kids
out the.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Sand, got a couple of kids out of the stand? Hey,
you up played football before? Son, No, sir, he'll get
it here. We're gonna hand you the ball up. Hey,
But that's a that's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
That's funny. That's funny. That's a good I mean twenty
fourth rushes, bro, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I've damn there fifteen yards to carry.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yeah, them boy laid down out there, man, they hold on.
They laid down early. They laid down early. Thirty five
zero in the in the first first quarter. That means
you ain't want you ain't want no smoke. You ain't
trying to play no football. Seventy y'all going through They
going through the motions. Man, come on, man, at least
play for the s on your helmet. If you ain't
gonna play for the ass on your helmet, play for
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your head coach. If you ain't gona play for your
head coach, play for your teammates. If you ain't gonna
play for your teammates, at least play for the name
on the back of the jersey.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Because people that would have to know how what you
call them gonna do. I already know my home was
gonna kill me when I go back home. The breaks off,
y'all shop, What the hell y'all was doing nothing.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Anybody, anybody that played with Syracuse and you got a girlfriend,
she should dump you. She got to leave you, shet,
she got to leave you.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I ain't taking no call. She ain't taking no calls to.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Block, block, block everybody.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
She might be in the deal. She might be in
a George love he love.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Listen, listen if if you have her. If you're in
a relationship, ladies, and you're dating someone on the Syracuse
football team, I suggest you break up with them, because
that's that's uncalled for. There should be no reward. There
should be no reward for being in a relationship after
that bullshit they pulled a day.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Yeah, that's bad.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Oh Joe, You ever scored seventy points on somebody?
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, Madden.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
The optoty is the act of football in your life?
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Oh no, not real life? Hell no, hell nah. You
know any any game I've played in, it's always been
a game of like. But I like to call quality
on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
No, it was they was thought to be a quality.
Now we I beat We beat more House when you're
for home coming, seventy to thirteen. We beat Clark like
sixty to twenty. Oh.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
We usually put points on people. Ohach other we put Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
Mean that's not fair on y'all. Wasn't playing nobody.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
We played them. I mean we made it look like nobody.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Okay, I see, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
You know what I'm saying. They was somebody before we
got older.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
They ass right, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
See that. What you gotta do, See, you gotta beat them. See,
if you get into a fight with somebody, you don't
beat them into turn them loose. You beat them to
their break loose. I don't see animals fight. Yeah, and
when he break loose to go, he never got to
worry about him again.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Okay, I see what you mean. I see what you mean.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I see we made more house break loose. They took
a foss the schedule for a couple of years and
at least until I left. Now they about have played.
They might have came back, and it's fun the block
after I was left. But they ain't want no parts
of number to mm hmmm, because we cut everybody ass
clark All being in state, it didn't matter, didn't matter,
(50:03):
Moe Brown, they got it too.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yeah you know that. You notice you ain't called fam huh.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
But listen, oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Now, I don't know what Faan would have done before
Number two got there or after, but they would have
selled now they.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
Or this, You don't think so, no, sir, reach Okay, I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Getting just what I know. I'm getting off the bus
getting one hundred.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Now, your best bet is to try to keep me
from getting one fifty two hundred in a couple of tubs.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
I don't know. It's a different ball game down there.
But the boy down there in Tallahshee especially back in
them days. What year was at Savannah State eighty six
to eighty nine? Oh head, old boy, this boy wasn't
playing back then. Boy, them boy wasn't playing back then.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Them boys? Were you doing back THEO? You know I
call a touchdown in twenty one straight games? Huh?
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Yeah, yeah, you ain't hear what I just said now, huh?
What th think about the level of competition obviously HBCU
great talent, Yeah, elite talent, sometimes not getting opportunities they
want to do, want to have the b at p
W I s right, but fam you in the eighties
you didn't want none of that. I'm telling you that, Oh.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Joe, you do realize I was one of them guys.
They was supposed to be at a PWI, right.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
Yeah, I understand that.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
And it was a whole lot of them too. Yes,
but they couldn't see me, Oh Joe. If I did
what I did in the NFL, can you imagine me
what I was doing in the HBCU. Yeah, So just
think about said, damn, damn what to the whole from
hb I can just imagine he will yes, Yeah, all right,
(51:34):
all right, oh.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Y'all, I averaged twenty yards a catch for a career.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Uh, but a career.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Can I ask you something? Yes, I want you to
remember this name, joh Quay Noneley. Okay, he averaged twenty
twenty yards to catch for his career too. A fam
you Yeah, well, he's he's a he's an Edison red
rated legend.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah. Come on now, hey, guess what. Yes, you have
had two hundred. I'd have had three hundred. Nah.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
But if the boys back then, that defense back then,
that defense, that that Ratler defense in the eighties were
especially eighty six to eighty nine. At of matter of fact,
eighty six to ninety two.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Oo, you would have heard it would have been No,
you wouldn't heard nothing. All you had heard it? Little
tell movie just a little bit. Nah, Nah, listen, Cook
the better out of Cook.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
No, I'm telling you, man, I'm telling you, you do realize.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Georgia Southing. We played Georgia Southern. Georgia Southern.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
They ended up winning the one double A national championship
the year we played them, I said, I said, a
stadium record on them nine for two oh two. Cook
elon the year before they were in the NIA National Championship.
Sam for two twenty one. Oh the bigger the school
Elon not elon uh uh Wofford cooked them, leave them
(53:00):
for two and two. If you if you were really
really good coase of a you know, uh, you know
there's gonna be some scouts here because they got some
good That's all I need to hear.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
Just did just say scouts.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
They could have been boy scouts, girl scouts selling damn
cookies on the sireline.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
I was cutting ass.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Yeah, listen, it sound good, it sound good. But them
boy down here in Florida, listen, hey, listen, don't listen.
Let me let me finish nine them boys coming out
of day Daden Brower County. That was down there in Tallahassee.
That made up that that that that Florida and m
Rather football team. Boy, you wouldn't have got nothing, you
hear me? And that and that's what hey, listen, that's
(53:35):
with all due respect to what you did to get
some teams you played when you played you know that's
Savannah State man, and boy down here ain't playing that. Man, Hey,
you ain't getting they than you. I'm just telling I'm
telling you. I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm
telling you what I know.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
I'm a double edged sword. I was cutting ass left
and right. You don't say you dot some sword. They're
just sharp on one side. I'm double edged. I'm cutting
ass on the left side of names on the right side.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
I said, it's different, you know that. You notice all
the schools you just named, none of them had to
do none with Florida. Ain't had nothing to do number
with Florida. It's a different it's a different type of breed.
Down here, man, you hit me.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Oh we played played we played one year? Who Central Florida?
Who is that Central Florida?
Speaker 3 (54:21):
I don't know nothing about that school there?
Speaker 2 (54:24):
What stop it?
Speaker 3 (54:24):
I know, I don't know that you t why you see? Yes, yeah,
they must have just started that year. Done, Yeah, they
must have just started that year.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Cook them, go look at it. Cook them.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
They had a guy to end up, if I'm not mistaken,
got drafted by the Cowboys in the third round.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
They came down, and they came down. I think his
name was Ford Bernard.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
For look he who won the game? Oh?
Speaker 1 (54:49):
They won, they beat us, but I beat them.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
You know what I'm saying. They was talking about.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Man, who is that number? Two?
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Yo? You use that and use that there cutting Oh
for sure, okay anywhere.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Look we went to uh my sophomore year, I made
a Black college All America. Sure, I was the only
Sochebore to make the team. UH coach uh Gramley's head coach,
coach Eddie Robertson, Eddie robb uh coach W. C. Gordon Such,
I mean all the coaches, Moe Forte, they had Willie Jeffers,
(55:22):
and they was talking about all these guys. Howard Valor
was at the game, Vincent Vince Carnor, Howard Reed, all
these guys. My coach said, I got the baddest in here.
Mm hmm, all them guys, y'all talking about my guy
gonna play on Sundays. And he a sophomore. He the
baddest in here.
Speaker 3 (55:42):
He like he was talking about you.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
He had he had the baddest in there, a true sophomore.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
All right, right about you?
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Yeah, hey, hey, speaking the sentence of me on the
topic of eighthbcus, I just want to congratulate but through
cooking the Wildcats winning the Florida Classic today, salute the
y'all boys, all the Wildcats out there, ratless. We're gonna
be all right, We're gonna be all right. We're gonna
be back next year. We got one more game. We
got Mississippi Valley State, uh next weekend. We need to
finish the season all strong with the win. I'm not
(56:13):
sure it's gonna happen with the coaching vacancy, but whatever
coach comes in the play, we're gonna have success next year.
But I guarantee you one thing. I guarantee we won
the halftime show, ratless. I guarantee we want a halftime show.
And if we didn't win the half Thorne show halftime show,
I guarantee you we won the fifth quarter. Yeah, oh Joe, Yeah, y'all.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Bad with it?
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Hey, I'll bad. Have been playing. I bad been playing?
Speaker 1 (56:35):
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't do that?
Speaker 3 (56:45):
Hey, Hey, that's the that's the best thing about ADCU
football games. When that crank up and when the band
crank up, or they playing in the in the middle.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
Oh man, you talking about you're not supposed to be
playing when the opposing team got the ball.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
To get all that.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
That's the window out the window out the window. But
it ain't We're gonna be playing because I would give
them something to play for. Yeah, goa be playing. What's
the what's the what I mean? You got to beat
the budget in Cincinnati? We got beat by uh oh hey, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
That wasn't necessary. You take a ticket shot set.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
The big the most I got, like thirty seven. I
lost thirty seven nothing to the Eagles. No, ain't nobody
to dropped, No forty fifty.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Hell no, I mean thirty seven nothing to fifty.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
I mean the same thing.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
You ain't too far off.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Oh oh, jo, we dropped seventy, No, said Bud. You
start getting it, you start getting the fifties.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Touchdown? Oh Joe, you know how many touchdowns?
Speaker 1 (57:47):
Hold on?
Speaker 3 (57:47):
We had a we had a game. We played the
Cleveland Browns. We didn't lose. What I'm saying it got
in the fifties. I think the score was fifty seven forty.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
Five or something like that.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, yeah, were you there?
Speaker 3 (57:58):
Yeah? I was there.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (57:59):
No, I think that they were going back and forth
there like hey we was scoring hella touchdown yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah I remember that. So now you got that in
my head.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
Now, oh George, you.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
Had to guess, right, now, just looking at through the
first eleven weeks, ten eleven weeks of the twelve weeks
of the college football season, who do you see on
the landscape that could actually beat Ohio State?
Speaker 3 (58:29):
Shit, actually beat them convincingly. Nobody gonna beat him convincingly.
A team that can give him a hard time.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
Maybe Georgia, Indiana.
Speaker 3 (58:43):
Georgia, Indiana, Georgia, Indiana as great. I mean, I would
say Texas if they were a little bit more consistent offensively,
but they've been consistent offensively against somewhat inferior opponents. He's
played good. But I need to see just a quarterback
play great decision making to say, you know what, you
(59:05):
can go in there and beat Ohio State. Great defense,
but you still got to put up points.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah, the game Ohio State is gonna be at home,
so the likelihood of somebody going in there beating them,
they're probably not likely. You're gonna probably have to get
him on the neutral field, Ojo. I don't think get
him on the neutral field.
Speaker 3 (59:21):
But Indiana good, that defense on't that defense?
Speaker 1 (59:25):
And then we find a lot because you know, Michigan
play them tough no matter what, No matter what Michigan
might look might what you might think may or may
not think of Michigan. Michigan play them tough. Michigan is physical.
They're a physical team. They're gonna run the football and
they're gonna try to shut your water off and stop
you from running the football. So it's gonna be a
very interesting matchup. And you know, Michigan has a true
(59:46):
freshman at quarterback. How much pressure can they they put
on him and to coax him into a few mistakes
Because I'm not mistaken. I think this game is in Michigan, ojo,
it is. Yeah, I think this game is at the
big House. M hm.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
You know normally we grow up the big house. You
ain't want to go to the big house.
Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Nah, I mean not that a big house, no show, don't.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
So it's uh, it's gonna be it's gonna be tough.
They got Look, we got some good teams. You've got Georgia, Uh,
you got h A and M doesn't have a loss.
Excuse me, A and M has no losses. Indiana has
no loss. Uh. You got a few teams out there
to have one loss. So it's gonna be interesting to see.
But they'll got those two outstanding receivers, they can run
(01:00:32):
the ball. The quarterback is really really good. Uh, you're
gonna have to work cut out. You're gonna have to play.
Ohio State's gonna have to get outside of themselves. You're
gonna have They're gonna have to turn the ball over.
They gonna have to be sloppy. You're gonna have to
make them and and and you know, you gonna have
to create some turnovers. You're gonna have to get create
some big play for yourself because I just don't know
if you can just some methodically just go down to
(01:00:53):
the field athodically ten drive to get there. You're gonna
have to get a couple of splash plays, yeah, and
flip field position. But it's gonna be It's gonna be
very very interesting to see how this thing shapes out.
Who makes the college football playoffs? What brackets are they in?
How soon If Georgia gonna be on the same side
(01:01:14):
as Ohio State, Uh, you know something something along Texas
saying them where the seeding.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
So that's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
That's gonna be very very interesting to see how this
thing shapes out. Oh yeah, but I'm anxious. I'm ready now.
Uh is it clear? No, huh huh is it clear?
(01:01:45):
I can hear what you said?
Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Is it clear?
Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
What clear?
Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Or you can see it?
Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Huh yeah a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
I think the camera trying to focus by itself. Hey,
if I am, he can And Jordan, if I if
I put my camera on auto with it focus.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
On it, he said, if he put his camera auto
with it focus, no, he said, no, no, damn, Oh Joe,
you see can you see what they got up talking
about the best fifty.
Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Someone dropped the top fifty running backs ever in college?
Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
In college? Who number one?
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
They got? Jonathan Taylor number.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
At number one?
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Who made that look? Kid?
Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Oh? Okay since two thousand? Okay, since now Reggie Reggie's
number one since two thousand. Reggie Bush is number one
since two thousand. I'm not putting Jonathan Taylor over Reggie
or Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Well?
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Who number three.
Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
They got? Can you see it as your sending to you?
Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Oh, hold on, hold on me, let me look at
that thing I got. I got to chat up on
my phone. Okay, here we go. Oh, that's a good list. Hey,
Derren McFadden was that boy boy?
Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Since two thousand? Oh ho I was like all time.
Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
I was like, oh hell no, a oh Monty ball,
I old just bring back memories.
Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Had some running backs now they did?
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Yeah, I mean Jonathan Taylor has been the best one
in the NFL from the Melvin Gordon. Melvin Gordon had
had a nice career, but when you go look at
Ron Daane and and some of those other guys that
came into the league, they didn't. They didn't have nearly
the career like a Melvin Gordon, like a Jonathan Taylor.
So John, clearly Jonathan Taylor has had the best NFL career.
Melvin Gore was was a solid ball player as well.
Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Hey, speaking of didn't Michael Bennett go to Wisconsin too?
That went to Minnesota right on my tripping.
Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
I think so he might did?
Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
He was real fast. If I'm not mistaken, I might,
I might might. I might have the wrong school. Michael
James at Oregon. Yes, it's must Sy TV, Mark Musty TV,
Christian McCaffrey, Breese Hall.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
That list chat.
Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Hell yeah they like it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
No, No, ain't nobody.
Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Reggie Bush was the most electrified running back since two thousands,
and it ain't even close. No, nobody was close to
Reggie mm hmm as oh Joe running back and he
was a returner. Yeah, Reggie was the most electrified.
Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Hey, hey, who is twenty five? I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Who that is. Kadem Carry with the Arizona he had
an okay career, not nothing in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
He was good at college player r.
Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
SPROS spros.
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Was a utility night.
Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
I mean he ran.
Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
At the Chargers New Orleans, Philly, Philly.
Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Yeah, I like I like that list. I mean seeing
some of these names. I haven't seen some of these
names in a long time. They bring back good mirror
memories watching watching college football.
Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yes, they ain't like Zeke. They ain't put Zeke up
there at Ohio.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Yeah, he had a good He had a good career
at Ohio.
Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
State, oh Man Man.
Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
The first year to college the football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
I mean that number that he had over two hundred
yards and three games Oregon, Alabama, and I think it
was whether Penn State or who wasn't in the Big
Ten championship game he went over two hundred and then
he goes to twenty against Bama, and then he goes
like two forty two fifty against Oregon.
Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Let's see Reggie Reggie was nice. They God, damn uh
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Joining us in a little bit, will Johnny will be
joining us. Also, running back Kevin Riley joins us a
little later. If I'm not mistaken, I think he scored
a couple of touchdowns today, So looking forward to hear
him talk about the number ten Alabama Crimson tie. Excuse me,
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the number twenty Tennessee Volunteers dominate the Florida Gators. They
go into the Swamp win for the very first time
since two thousand and three, when retired coach Urban Myral
was watching from this Florida sideline. The ball scored touchdowns
on their first four possessions and led thirty one nothing
at halftime, easily the most dominant thirty minutes of the
football against Florida since the nineteen ninety They outgained the
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Gators three twenty three to one ten in the opening half,
had nineteen first downs. Oh y'all, yeah, I mean, look,
we know Florida, they've already fired the coach. They're going
to have a new head coach. Yes, LSU is going
to have a new head coach. Yes, now you know
you hear.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Rumors saying like Lane Kiffin is kind of leaning towards LSU.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
We don't know. They threw out ninety million dollars plus
another twenty twenty five million roster.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Does the Florida.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Gator hopes Penn whether or not Lane Kiffins takes this job,
or there's someone else can come in and do and
make Florida what we know Florida to be what they've
been for a very very long time. Can it get them?
Can somebody who can come in and get them back
to respectability? You know what?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I have no idea. I think Lane Kiffin would have
been been a great coach. He could have got recruits
in there, some five stars, some actual players. But I
think the offer that we've seen I saw it on
Twitter as well, with ninety million being offered to Lane
Kiffin with twenty five million for the roster. As far
as being able to bring bring kids in, I think
that I think he's already locked up now. As far
as the coach that that can be also attracted, does
(05:59):
that just not the Gators, but also UH players coming in,
high school players that are that hit the portal of
the come yeah, that want to come to Florida and play.
I'm not sure who that coach is. I'm not sure
who it is at all. I think Florida right now,
They're they're in a tough spot. They didn't they didn't
play well to forget to forget to day. They had
some some some some good games throughout the season, but
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they're nothing like the Florida Gavors Gators of old, where
they would always be able to compete against the best
of the best weekend and week out. I think that
Florida Gator team or teams like that are long gone.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Three SEC schools have their site set on Lane Kipping,
obviously the school that he's currently at, the old mess
Florida Gators, and the LSU Tigers. Kiffin's former boss, Nick Saban,
spoke past Lyleb on universes competing for Kiffin's services before
the season is even over. Coach Saban said, we need
to take a better approach to the business aspect of
what we do in college athletics. In the NFL, you
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cannot leave your team until the season is finished playing.
You can't talk to another coach in the regular season,
and there are defined times in which you can talk
to them if they're in the playoffs. That's the way
it should be, so it's not a Lane kiff in conundrum.
This is a college football conundrum that we need some
leadership to step up and change the rules on how
it gets done in terms of coaching searches and opportunities
(07:17):
for people to leave. That's where it should be, regardless
of what Lane decides to do. Unless you was reported
to offer Kiff in ninety million dollar contract, which would
tie him as the highest paid coach in the sport,
alongside promising twenty five million in related roster investments exceeding
twenty five million.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Kiffin is expected to announce his future after next week's
rivalry game against the Mississippi State Bulldogs, which we currently
know as.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
The Egg Bowl. O Jo, You agree with coach Saban.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
There needs to be some uniformity about when these coaches,
when other universities can talk to coaches, and when coaches
can actually leave because as he mentioned, we've seen it before,
that's done it before. It's Brian Kelly saw him leave
Cincinnati and go to know to day you see him
and so we see this. It's not the first time
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that it's happened. And as coach Saban says, you know
a lot of times if a player gets hurt, it
whether it decides whether or not they get to go
to a bowl game or the type of bowl game
that they go to. We saw this happen with Florida
State last year. They got the breaks beat off them.
But lane Kiffin leaving before Old Miss, they might be very,
very reluctant to have them play in the college football playoff. Oho,
(08:32):
if your head coach leaving and you have an interm
head coach, so what were you on this?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I don't I don't think. I don't think it really
affects him coach, whether whether lane Kiffin leaves or not.
But let's let's go back to protocol and the way bness,
the way bunness should be handled when it comes to
other other organizations or entities talking to coaches, especially in
this in this situation lane Kiffin, while he's still an
Old Miss, if a coach is if a coach is
playing bad and his team is losing, right, is it
business in protocol or what's that word? Yeah, that's new
(09:01):
for me. I'm right that with down in my notes.
Conundju that conundrum before he gets fired, then he get
fired right on the spot, or do they do they
handle the business and wait till the season over to
let him go.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
They fired during the season.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Okay, there we go, there we go.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So you believe you should be able you should be
able to like obviously the coaches are not leaving during
the season, but you believe like once the season is over,
not be able to coach in the bowl game because
it's like an NFL. The NFL, they can fire you,
but you can't talk to a coach. Another coach can't
leave and say, you know what, my season is over,
let me go because they changed that rule. Remember Lane
(09:34):
Keffy was the offensive coordinator at the Rams. The Rams
were out of the playoffs. He ends up going back
coaching for the Patriots. So they changed that rule now,
so once everybody's season is over, you can't have a
coach go help with the offensive defense or bill special
assistant if he had another job. With that being said,
the NFL O, YO, you know if a coach we
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saw this, what ag Aaron Glenn, We saw Ben Johnson.
We saw a lot of different get head coaching jobs
that was OC or DC's, but they weren't able to
leave those jobs until their team season was finished. They
ken't like, oh, well, I'm a head coach of a
new team. Now, damn y'all the playoffs, I'll be damn.
I got to go get ready for my new team.
(10:16):
So you believe, well, if they fired coach during the season,
that once the season is over, that coach should be
able to leave his post. We a head coach of
offensive coordinator and go coach at another school.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Listen, when you get fired, you gotta leave asaf, don't you.
You got to pack your things, you got to get
your u houl, and you got to get up out
of there. Now. I think with Lane kipen situation at
Old Miss, I think he's going to finish the season. Now,
conversations can be had with whatever program you want to
so you understand what the forceee of your future is
going to look like and where you want to go.
(10:47):
So you can get a head start in preparing on
where you're going to go and still be able to
finish your season at Old Miss. Do the Egg Bowl,
and if just so happened, if you guys make make
the playoffs, if it does happen, then still be able
to coach yourself through that and then obviously the next
season when it follows through. Hell, you got six goddamn
months you got six months to prepare for that, do
(11:08):
all the contractual stuff that needs to be done, and
it's over with. And it also lets players know that
might have been coming to Old Miss now you have
an opportunity to transfer, getting the portal and come on
down there, uls you if that is just this destination place.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, I definitely think they need some uniformity.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I think they need to have a window in which
a guy at which you know, collegiate teams, the coaches
can talk to other players about entering the portal, have
an opportunity once the portal open and be done with it.
I think eventually, oh Jo, they're gonna start doing They're
gonna do away with uh spring games because well, I'm
not gonna let you. I'm not gonna let you get
a look at out my players, so that you you
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open up the window, the window opens up, and the
player wants to leave, he wants to leave, and we'll
move on from there. It's just tough because for the
longest time n C A A hass has monopolized the situation.
And once they did a way, once he kind of
got this nil program, it became the kind of the
wild wild West.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Don't yo.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And so there are really no rules and regulations, and
I think you gotta have some rules of regulation. You
just can't have arbitrary and it's got to be a situation.
Oh Joe, you can't have a guy when you know what,
I got a million dollars to go to Florida, Man,
Florida ain't doing right, hey, Arkansas, Georgia. Somebody's what y'all
got believe there? He goes there, man, y'all some bull
job over here too, and just jump jump jump jump.
(12:27):
I don't think I don't think a player should be
able to do that way.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
No, that's not fair. Don't do that. Don't regulate us
now now that we have the opportunity and the rabbit
got the gun, that's not fair. Listen, there were no
rules and regulations when we need schools were monopolizing and
making all this money off these players likeness. Now all
of a sudden, the players have opportunity to cut the
middleman out, and now we get to get some money,
you know, for our likes and to be able to
hop from school to school, and coaches being able to
(12:51):
hop from school to school when they want to. Now,
all of a sudden, you want to regulate regulation.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Jump it every year.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oho, coaches, they jumping every year.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I mean even if even that he listen, this.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Is not to the point now, Ojo. It's just hard
these guys, the players have gotten so sensitive.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
O yo. If I coach you hard, I got a
worry about you jumping in the portal.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Hey, but listen, matter of fact, let me tell you something.
The ones that's like that, the one that jumping in
the portal, back and forth, back and forth, and it
can't be coach hard. They really ain't like that anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
But it ain't go get money somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Why wouldn't they really not the one? For one, those
are not the ones that's gonna make it to the
next level anyway. If you hopping from portal to the
portal for for for whatever the issues may be, Oh
my coaching coaching me hard, or I'm not getting the
opportunity to play unless you that guy, it doesn't matter anyway.
They're not gonna impact your team whether they stay or go.
Think about it. Just think about all the good all
the really really really good players they hop in the
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portal for an opportunity to actually start and showcase their talent.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Okay, So now I get there, I get some money,
and things don't go as well as I hope to.
Now you just up and go go leave again, because
you know, it's just like a player, oyo. You get
drafted in the first round. Even if you some slough,
you're gonna get opportunities because that was not the only
team that had you graded in the first round. So
somebody else is gonna give you an opportunity. You know,
(14:08):
the how you drafted, the more opportunities you're gonna get. Yes,
So a guy comes out and he's a five star,
even if he goes to a university and they give him,
let's just say a half a million dollars. We don't
got to talk about anything astronomical. Let's just say he
gets a half a million dollars, oh joe. Even if
it doesn't work out there, somebody's gonna give him some
money to jump into the portal because he was a
five star. And they're not a five star that just
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has one offer you a five star. You got multiple offers.
And there are a lot of times. There're probably ten
fifteen big time schools Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Tennessee,
so forth and so on, So those opportunities will present themselves.
I just think we've got there used to be no
speed limit, but at some point in time we have
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to have rules and regulations. And no matter what the
case is, there used to be no rules or regulations
on banking or mining or anything like that. Your thing.
You're asking for trouble as long as you don't have
rules and regulations.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I think how to put rules and regulations in.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
But there's no trouble in that. If a player wants
to leave, he should be able to leave. You shouldn't
be able to regulate that that that that that that
that doesn't make any sense. It's like if you if
you're in school. Let's say no money is involved and
you're in school. Hell, I go to FAM. You you
know what I want to leave Fam? You? I want
to go to Patum Cookman.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I don't like it here? You know what I want
to go to Howard. You should be able to hop
and bounce as you see fit. Now, how about this
about you just got to pay my money back?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Bingo?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Why don't that just get ready? Say that you want
to have foods and regulations? Hey, if I choose to
leave a percentage of that money, a percentage of that
in al money has to go back. Okay, okay, how
about that. Now that makes a.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Little bit more sense.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
But restricting that.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
To lead because I ain't tried to get you.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I ain't tried to get you, no refund, right, right, Yeah,
you're right, because it's.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Kind of it's kind of like rent.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Well, if I stay past the do date, you gonna
have to pro so you're gonna have to pro rate
it with amount of time wa won.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
But I'm leaving on the tent.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You mean to tell me I got to pay a
four month's rent and I ain't there for ten days? Yep,
because you didn't get your ass out of the first
So it's it's excuse me. It's gonna be tough because,
like you said, once we get accustomed to something, it's
hard to get us uncustomed to that because for the
(16:26):
most part, once the nil hit, it was just like
a free fraud. Now all of a sudden, you're gonna
put some camps on. They're like, what on m Yeah,
I don't think. I don't think I'm gonna be able
to ride along with that. So it's gonna be very
interesting because you know, you know, I know it's coming.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
They're not gonna just let just.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Let guys just arbitrary just get five six, seven million dollars.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
And you might.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
It's only a few of them. It's only about two
or three of them. So it's not like all of
them are getting that. Now, you know the players that's
getting that kind of Jeremiah smissed the arch mannings. We
took about the best of the best. Everybody ain't eating
like that.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
No, But I'm saying they're gonna, they're gonna they're gonna
put a cab because the here's the thing. Oh, you
do realize, like once a guys start getting paid, I
get to treat him as such. You show up late
for meeting, I find you, you miss Waite, I find you.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
You know you late for Burt, you curfew study Hall.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I find you because theoretically, although you're a collegial athlete,
I d amateur athlete, you're getting paid, so now you're
a professional. So I have to treat you as such,
because that's what would happen if you're in the NFL.
If you're late for a meeting, you miss a meeting,
you're late to practice, you miss practice or a team
schedule function, you miss that, or you're late to that,
you get fined. You have to be under the same
(17:43):
guidelines because for the longest time, oh yo, we've forgiven
it's like, oh man, he's a kid.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
There's a college kid. I mean they make a little money.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh you know, they make a little hush on the side,
but it wasn't like what it is now, these guys
making fifteen hundred thousand, two hundred five three four five million.
So I think the thing is is that we've kind
of taken we're kind of taking the reins off o
Jo and we we we we we judged these kids
a little harsher now than what we did, say when
we were in school or the last they last ten years. Now,
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we don't look at these kids like, bro, he're making money.
Jeremi Smith making four million dollars a Year's some receivers
in the NFL that don't make four million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And those receivers that don't make fourty million dollars in NFL,
they ain't Jeremiah Smith either. He makes listen for a reason.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Normally, you would expect the professional to make more than
an amateur.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I mean you would would you call the whole if that?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Who want to be a pro? Why not just stay
on amateur?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Let me let me tell you something. There's a reason
he makes the four million dollars he makes. Even those
that are already in the NFL, they don't look like him.
It all.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Let me say he don't make four million, he makes
a million. How he looking?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Hold?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Oh, he's looking real good right now. He's looking real good.
And it's also about timing, it's all. It's also about timing,
you know when in Il happened. So it's kind of it's.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Kind of different. Did you not see him in the
Rose Bowl? Did you not see Jaxon Smith?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
But hey, I'm sure he got something.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
It would that might have been the greatest receiving performance.
I saw this guy. He was at Louisiana. I forget
he ended up going to the Steelers. He ended up
having four hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
The short, the short, the short guy.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It didn't work out for him in the NFL, but
he had him a day against Nebraska. It's just it's
just tough, o yo. It's uh, you know, I think
the thing is that because we look at free agency
and we look at baseball, we look at basketball, we say, okay,
that's free agency.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
A picture can.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Make fifty million, seventy million dollars a year, A first
basement can.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Work, make whatever it's not slotted.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
What quarterbacks make this, running backs make this, and wide
receivers make that, and then you got a cap.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Well that's theoretically that's not free agency.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
If the market should bear, should set what a player
can make. In college, the market sets it. It ain't no.
You can't say, well, Jeremiah Man, you only receiver. You
can't get no for me.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I don't think it's the market. The market doesn't set it.
The actual player sets it.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
In the NFL, we don't have we don't have a
market because there's no free agency. So Creacy, I got
to be totally free with no restrictions, no salary cap
over here, no this or that. You can't franchise me.
You don't have no right of first refusal. Hey, my
time is up. Oh tell you work a regular job.
Your contract in. I'm free to go. If I'm at Google,
(20:37):
I'm free to go work for Apple. I got free
to go work for Microsoft. That's in my estimation. That's
how it should be. I ain't got no problem. It's
free market. Hey, I got a product to sell. You
know what, Oh Joe, I got this phone to sell.
You shouldn't be able to say, well, I can only
sell this phone for five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That ain't free. That is no free market.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I should be able if I want to sell this
phone for ten thousand dollars, I should be able to
do it if the market would bear that, if there
are people out there to pay it, Yeah, so be it.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, I mean I got you, I got you. I
kind of I kind of like how it is where
it's free flowing. You know, players can actually choose and
do what they want to do. Because for so many years,
wasn't nobody saying that when all these universities were making
googlebs billions off these players like this, And now they
now that they get opportunity to take advantage, you know,
(21:29):
not not really take advantage, but get what they're old
based off their life and their skill set. I think
I think they should have free reign to do so.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, I mean, look at all all the great players
that came before, and yeah, oh cho, they got a
little couple of bucks.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
On the side here or there.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Oh, it ain't nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
They got a little car here, they got some jewelry there,
but they ain't getting no money like what the kid
is making now. Yeah, they ain't even mad at him.
You look at a guy like Archie Manning. Arch Manny
gonna be in a hand, He's gonna be on stashed
about twelve million dollars by the time he get to
the NFA.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And the funny thing about it, look at all the story,
look at all the horror stories you've heard of collegiate
athletes getting in trouble because they're hungry, taking clothes, stealing
ste Yeah, yeah, I just just food, not be able
to eat, like like it's been too much, too many
of gotten in trouble. So now they have an opportunity
to be able to offend for themselves, take care of
their families a little earlier than than normal, not having
(22:19):
to wait on the NFL check. I think, just just
let let it be.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Let it be.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
No, they're gonna put some rules.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
They gonna put some rules in place, because right now
there's not a whole lot of rules, even the NCAA,
even with the Congress and try to say, look, we
got we got to have something about it. We gotta
And I agree with coach Saber. The coach is once
your season is officially open, I don't believe you should not.
So now, guy Lane Kip, let's just say he gets
to supposed to coach. He takes this job after the
(22:48):
Egg Bowl, he's supposed to coach in the SEC Championship.
He's like, nah, I ain't gonna coach. I'm gonna going
down here to my team. Or he gets an opportunity
to go play in the college football Nah. But knowing no,
hold on, I give you prime example coach him Beckler.
You remember who was the guy that left. They were
in the national they would go in the n c
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DOAA tournament, and the guy had accepted another job, and
both shimp Beckers said, nah, he ain't gonna stay. We
want a Michigan man. I think it was Fisher that
ended up getting the end them job and coaching, and
they end up winning the national championship in nineteen eighty nine.
But both shim Beckers said, nah, nah, you go ahead
and go where you're gonna go. I don't need you
to wear here because I want a Michigan man to
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coach a Michigan team, not somebody that's at Michigan right now.
But he's already accepted the job. He's gonna be somewhere
the moment I seen. I don't think they end up
winning a championship.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, I don't think Lane will do that. I think
he's gonna finish the task at hand. He's gonna finish
the assignment. You know, he started the season and.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Hoping, uh oh, missus hoping that he does that because
he can thank you about it.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I say he finished, he gonna finish. I didn't say
he was saying.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
No, no, no, I'm saying they're hoping that he does. Yeah,
he does what you said he's gonna do. If they
get an opportunity they're fortunate enough to play in the
SEC title or if they get a college football playoffs first,
hopefully they because old Miss. I mean when you think
of Old Miss and you think of like, okay, when
the next time they're gonna get an opportunity play in
the college football playoffs. Yeah, I mean since Lane, they've
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gotten guys that go into the NFL and guy played
playing at a high level. So you know, sometimes it's
a once in a lifetime opportunity. Hopefully you're right that
he gets this, because I believe he's gone. It's just
that these other programs can offer what Old Miss can.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yes, yeah, you're right, you're right. I mean, shoot, I mean,
who who will stay? Who would stay?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
With the numbers that money? Oh Joe, that's a lot
of money. That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
That's a lot of money, and maybe Old Miss could
you know, give him I don't know how many what
is it? Nine? What an eight year deal? How many?
How many years is the deal? Yeah, there's ninety millionaire
the ten years, that's nine million a year?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Eight years?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Eleven and a half a year? I mean, what's the deal?
I think Kirby makes like thirteen seven years? Wow, So
so that's about that's that's Kirby.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
That's that's right, thirteen.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That's that's Kirby's number.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Hey, it's just it's just hard, oh Joe, it's gonna
it's just hard to.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Turn that kind of money down. Yeah, and it's not
because all those programs and he's done a great job
of building. Oh it's fourteen, oh Joe, So it's ninety
eight million, oh, seven years, ninety eight million. Oh yeah, yeah,
because it's Oh Joe, it's hard. Now, if that's a
pre emit of program, let's just say that's Ohio State, right,
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that's Notre Dame, that's Alabama, that's Michigan, that's USC. We
get it, him staying if they match it. Oh Miss
is not the same tier as Florida in the same conference.
But it's not the same tier as Ohio. Georgia is
not Alabama, it's not Florida, it's not LSU, it's not Texas,
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it's not Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's just not Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I mean so, man, it'd be hard to turn that
kind of money down.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Man, turn that down. Man, Please listen, Lane kid, he
get there. You understand the type of players he can get,
he can attract. You know, those people jumping in the portal,
there's a good chance they might look like they did
back in twenty nineteen. I'm not saying they're gonna have
a Joe Burrow. I'm not saying they're gonna have a
Jamar Chase to Justin Jefferson. But they can get back
to that. And if he can turn Old Miss around
the way he did, he can damn show turner LSU around.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
We saw what he did at Alabama. Yeah, when he
had Amari Cooper and he had those guys. So just
imagine him getting a tier, a little notch, more more
five stars, bigger guy from the portal. But the way
he can call plays on visibly, Yeah, because you could
say what you want to say. You can say is
arrogant and all that other stuff. But there ain't no
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denying that he can call. He's one of the great
mind in college football. And I don't know he he
He's been to Tennessee, he's been the Old Miss. Now
he's coached at Alabama. Now he's about to be at LSU.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Seemingly that's all eras are porting in those in that direction.
So fourteen million, Oh Joe, I don't know, yo, what's up?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Oh? So you think about coaching now, huh? You see
you see what I told you? Think about it, think
about it on the road. But listen, listen, head coach,
head coach, sharp what you can't be on the road
because what BA bad? Okay, But listen, you just coach
the home games, no problem, ain't no problem. You just
coach the home games. I'll be your assistant head coach
and I take over the games on the road.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Boom problem the road.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Huh hey you know he can I tell you? Can
I tell you something that I just heard?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Right?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
A little birden. Now, I'm not sure thinks when you
see stuff like this most of the time, if there's smoked,
there's a fire somewhere that the head coach, the head
coat coaching job is going to be available down there.
Fam you now, I mean what you think about me
and you going down to FAM? You moving moving to Tallahassee.
You can coach all the games at home, all the
games on the road, I take over. Think about all
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the players we can get in the portal to come
on down there to Tallahassee.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Why would I go catch?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Why would I go coach coach another HBC U school
and my agebcus.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Because your ABC don't got the kind of money we
got down there.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Well, it wouldn't be about the money for me.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
The hell that hell, it don't state to do well.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
If it's orange team, any team that got orange in
their uniform, Adam HBC you do well, it's damn sure're gonna.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Be now you heard that lie you just told It's
a good thing. It ain't Sunday talked about it ain't
about the money. The hell it ain't. If it wasn't
about the money, Lane Kiffy be staying right and goddamn old.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Miss o Jo, I'm saying, it's not about the money
for me, o Jo. You going to an o Jo,
You going to an HBC You they not finna pay
you no fourteen million?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You don't so that, So slim it down, slimming down,
swim it down. You don't know what we got. We
we don't know what You don't know what we got?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Ye, probably the high paid HBCU coach probably makes three
to four hundred thousands.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Hey, let me tell you something, man, I listen hunt.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, Michael Beach, the high paid he made four hundred k.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
So what you're trying to do, you're trying to get
his money that I give you a we Hey listen,
I talked, I talked to the program. We give you
five hundred, we give you five hundred five five million,
nfl U n I l ros no, and you can
and you can bring the dog with you. No Teddy
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say no go it's all and uh listen, I'm I.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Think our gators in Florida and they be trying to
get me.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
He'll be all right, He'll be all right. They gonna
speed him right back out. I'm just listen. I'm just
trying to diversify.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
They they well, they definitely get Teddy be cause Teddy
k run. At least Thos Panatos might be Fatos might
be able to get away.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Can you get away?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
All you gotta do is zig zag gun. You know,
Gator's only fast in the straight line.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Hey, they run, They run fast enough. Oh, Joe arch Manning.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Arch Manning probably had his best performance in his career
at Texas.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
He threw for a career high three hundred and eighty
nine yards a count of for six total touchdowns and
a fifty two to thirty seven win over the Razorbacks.
Manning did something not even Vince Young, any other Texas
quarterback had ever done at the university. He became the
first player in school history to catch a touchdown, throw
a touchdown, and rush for a touchdown. Look, I don't
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want to get I don't want to get too far
over my skis. Yeah, because it was Arkansas, But yeah,
when you do something that university, that's one hundred and
twenty five hundred and fifty years old and no other
quarterback had ever done that in a history. We gotta
give it kudos. Even though it was against Arkansas, right,
it's still he still had himself to day eighteen thirty
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three eight nine four TDW four interceptions. They still can't
run it down football, so you had to throw it
like that. Yeah, but Livingston had two for one to
oh four and a touchdown most of the field, four
for eighty one, Ringo six for eighty one more three
for seventy four, so they had they they he had
a day throwing the football. Yeah, he just But I
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think in order for them to be what they really
want to be. Oo, yeah, they got to have some
resemblance of a run game.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Well you know, you know what, they got to have
a run game. But I like this for arch I
liked it for ours because you're going to get into
games where you can't run the ball and the fact
that your run game has been your keys hill all
season longer. You haven't been able to run and teams
are making you one dimensional. I know they played Arkansas,
but the fact that you were one dimension and you're
able to be successful, you know, doing what you struggle with,
you know, throughout damn did the whole season, you know,
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as far as the passing game is concerned, and for
us to go out there and have a game like
he like he had to day four tds for three
eight nine. I will like some of the other receivers
that played for Texas to step up. I would like
some of those for those other receivers to step up
because I think of Texas, I think of one of
the schools that should be somewhat equivalent to the L
S U s in the Ohio States as far as
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pumping out you know, top tier receivers that that should
be going into the first round, and I just haven't
seen that yet this year. Ringo, who's who I thought
was was supposed to be that guy, he hasn't just
he hasn't shown me enough this year.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Outside of that arch Man, I'm glad to see him
playing well again. Even though they played we want to
you want to steer caution to win because they were
playing Arkansas. Yeah, we'll see what happened.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Who's fired their coach during the season.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Thinking about we got Arkansas that fired their coach, Florida
that fired this Florida so we got three coaches in
the SEC that got fired in the middle of the season.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I have one question, do the do Does Texas have
another test before the season ends?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah? A and M O shoot next week?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Hey, now see now that's gonna be Please tell me
they're playing in Texas A and M so so I can.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Go to the game they playing in Texas.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Damn it. I don't know. No, I don't know nobody
at Texas and.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
So that's now. He puts a performance like this against
A and M. Let's talk, let's talk. We can talk, Yes, sir, yes, sir,
And listen with.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
The confidence, with the confidence he's built in this game
and you know, the San Jose even though those games
don't count, being able to put up performance like this
regards to who you're playing. You go into Texas A
and M next week that with that confidence already built up. Listen,
he might he might throw for five hundred. You never know,
Star said Vince Young.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
K was at the game and came up to him
after saying, man, I wish I could have had to
play like that.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Oh you're talking about like the Philly the Philly Special.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah that thing.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, Yeah, that was nice. That was nice.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Well, Vince, you did everything else.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Damn you want to single Handley won the national championship, Dude,
I mean you put on you put on one of
the greatest performances.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, championship in history. Yeah, I mean, and then.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
The year before you did a number on Michigan. Yeah.
And I think he almost threw for two hundred and
ran for two hundred. So he had he put together
a year and then to do what he did against
against USC that was doing for a third straight national championship.
When they had all those guys, Matthew Landon, Reggie Bush,
Lyndall White, you know, they had cushions, they had Clay
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Matthews junior, they had a boy, and Ben Young said, nah,
they had a squad.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Stars were shining on Texas that night.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Diego Pavia threw four career high four hundred and eighty
four yards Old Joe five touchdowns as the number four
team Vanderbilt Commodores beat the Kentucky wild Cats by the
score of forty five seventeen. The Commodores kept their hosts
for College Football Playoff birth alive going into the regular
season finale. Fabia who struck he had another heisman Poles
celebrating with his teammates set the program record topic four
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hundred and sixty four passing yards, by which Taylor had
against Tennessee in nineteen eighty one. Pavia ran for another
forty eight yards and a sixth score. Vandy coach Clark
lel said he's the best player in the country and
deserves to be in the Heisman conversation. He tips the
field when he steps on it. There are only a
few players in the world that when the balls in
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their hand, you can't that can take over a game,
and he's done that repeatedly here. According to Vegas, Fernando
Mendoza still holds the highest Heisman Trophy odds at minus
one twenty. Meanwhile, Jordan's Saying holds the second best at
three sixty. Diego Pavia improved his odds to plus six fifty.
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O Joe ye, he was thirty three or thirty nine
eight four five touchdowns, the one in receptions. He was
their leading rusher. And again here's a team that really
couldn't run the football today. O Joe, twenty five carries
sixty five yards, not even you know, three yards of carry,
but he was able to do it. Had two receivers
over one hundred yards. Richardson had six for buck fifty nine,
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three tubs. Cheryl had eight pril fifty one fifteen and
a tub. He did a little bit of everything. Like
I said, he ran for a touchdown and he threw
for five or six total touchdown.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
That's crazy. I mean even that interception, you know it
kind of it is what it is. It didn't it
didn't affect the outcome of the game. But this is
another game, though. This is another game, just like the
Texas game. You're playing Arkansas. They playing Kentucky. On they
playing Kentucky. Kentucky not very good offensively and defensively. I'm
sorry to all those Wildcats out there, including my daughter
who goes to University Kentucky. But Pabia did what you
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were supposed to do against an inferior opponent. You're supposed
to throw for forty four. You're supposed to look like this.
The receivers supposed to go off the way they did.
So this is a great game for him. As far
as Heisman hopes, I would have loved him to have
a game like this against some of the bigger schools.
Some of the bigger schools.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Like we played when he played Alabama.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Bingo, like when you you play Alabama's now you have
but they keel as you he had a book game.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I mean, I said, Jordan's saying if Julian saying so yeah, yeah,
but the Ohio State quarterback. But look, Mendoza's played really,
really well and uh, we'll see what he looks like
when they play Ohio State in the Big twelfth Championship.
That seems to be that's gonna be a matchup. Uh,
and we'll see that's not no no, no no no no no.
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Next week it's Ohio State Michigan. That's probably the following week.
So we'll get a we'll get a better we'll get
a better sense Mendoza, we'll get a better sense about
about saying because those are to the you know, the
one and two teams in the country and uh, deservedly so,
both unbeaten, untied. So it's gonna be very very interested
to see how this thing shapes up. But saying, look,
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he's throwing the two top receivers we know he has
Jeremiles Smith. I mean, a guy from Vanderbilt winning the
Heisman Trophy. Be crazy to think that would a school
mainly known for academics, and nobody really thought about ben
Belt until this kid Pabia got there because Vanderbilt used
to be everybody's oncoming, but they put everybody on notice
last year. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
If I'm not mistaken any he isn't he trying to
get another year?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah? No, Pabia, I think I saw he was like
a part of a lawsuit because he went to ju
COO and he's trying to say jue Co is not
a part of it.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Something to that.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, he said, I'm trying to I'm trying to get
some more of these old bandit bucks.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Oh listen, he's staying another yea, he go, he gonna.
He's gonna get itself up up that draft board now.
But going in the next year.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Is that what? Oh he's trying?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah? Oh Joe Oregon tenth wind of the season forty
two seven victory over USC. Dan Lanning had a lot
to say in his postgame news conference, landing fire shots
at the SEC said, we didn't play Chattanooga State today,
right like some of the other places we competed. It's
tough playing nine conference game is tough playing in this league.
I think proofs in the pudding. We can beat you
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in a multiple ways. Right, we can outscore you at times. Right,
we can hold you the eighteen sixteen points type of
game winning, tough environments, any weather, put the ball down,
let's go play football. That's the kind of team that
we have. Landing also took issue with how teams win
are sometimes viewed by the committee. A lot of times
we play really good team and they become unranked all
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of a sudden. That's not our fault. Maybe it is
our fault. The Dust currently tending one seventh in the
CFP rankings, behind three and one loss teams three other
one loss teams Georgia, Texas, Tech Ole miss as of
the last week's ranking.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
You like what coach Landing had to say, Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I like coaches talking shit like oh she man, I
like coaches talking like that. I like them talking them.
I like them talking jazzy because it's the reason the
teams are playing the way they play now. When you
think of Organ of the past, you think of for next,
speed all over the place Organ right now. The game
winning went up front and then everything else takes over
from there. They running the ball, they dominated, they dominated
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the front, they throwing the ball the quarterback more more
had the day to day he was twenty twenty two
for thirty for two TVs. Two fifty seven. They whitting
and had one hundred and four in the ground and
the TV. Hey, they're not the same, Oregon are old
where you call them a for nets team. Oh, they
ain't gonna hit nobody. They weak up front. Man, they
got the meat and potatoes up there, battling, battling the trenches,
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and the skilled position is taken over from there. So
I like I like it.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Talking a little trash though, I like that.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
I mean if USC game a game for a while
and then a little bit and then you know, they
kind of pulled away. I mean it was what twenty
eight fourteen, twenty eight fourteen at the half, both scored
a touchdown, then USC scored six. But look, Oregon's got
a good team. I think if they hold sir, they're
gonna be. They gonna They're gonna be in the college
football playoffs. It's hard. That's the number seventeen seven team
in the country. Yeah, what they got Oregon State probably
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next week, Yeah, we got eleven to one. It's gonna
be hard to leave a team that's in the top
ten out of the college football. It's just it's just
gonna be hard.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I mean, hold on, they might lose the Oregon State
next week.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
That don't do nobody losing the Oregon State.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Don't sleep State, don't sleep on us.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah we slept, were sleeping, don't.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
As Civil War, you never know what might happen never,
you never know.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Well, they the North generally SA rendered the dipomatic courthouse.
So that's why that's where I met on y'all. Look,
I think the SEC is going to nine conference games
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also because yeah, I mean you're playing Mercer, and you
playing Chattanooga and you playing all these teams. Yeah, boy,
that's why I think the thing is is that you know,
you go unscathed in the SEC when you got Alabama
and l s U, and you got you know, you
got Oklahoma and Texas, you got all those teams, you
got all those teams Georgia. But it's gonna be hard
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for you to go unscathed and play all and play
a conference championship game. So it's gonna be hard for
you to be unscathed in these conferences. Moving Yeah, it
just steals it just steals. And I know you know
people like, well a, this is an X, Y and Z,
but it's gonna get harder and harder for you to
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go unscathed.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Well, listen, that's that's that's a good thing. That's a
that's a good thing obviously, because for for us, for
US fans of the collegiate game, that's a good thing
for us. Now, maybe for the committee it might be
a little difficult. It might be a little difficult. Then
maybe they will take an account that. Listen, it's gonna
be difficult for us for teams to go undefeated. So
maybe you have to have some of a little a
little curve when it comes to your judgment and who
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you letting the college football playoffs because it's so difficult.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, I think, I think when you look at I mean,
you got Penn State really down this year, you got Illinois,
you Northwestern, you got some of these teams like Michigan
State is right right, So it's gonna be interested. You know,
I don't I don't envy being in and you know,
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their play, their their position, because you're gonna have to
make some tough decisions. Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna
don't have to make some very very tough decisions. And
if you're not careful her, Old Joe, it's gonna be
the SEC versus the big team. That's who's gonna make
the College football Playoff. Yeah yeah, o Jo. The difference
a little fight as College Football Playoff Kate, the number
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nine ranked No. To Dame Fighting Irish left little doubt
today or the record seven seventy to seven route of Syracuse.
The Irish scored twenty one points before taking the first
damn offensive snape nineteen straight regular season games when facing
elimination from the College Football Playoff discussion many and blow
out fashion. If there's a lingering, lingering, lingering question about
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why the committee ranked No. To Dame as the second
highst of the two lost teams this week, there's answered.
In South Bear, Jeremiah Love boasted his Heisman Trophy Candecy
with one hundred and eight rushing yards and three touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
O yo, oh, hey, what is Syracuse doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Don't look like nothing.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Hey, after the game, after the game, they need to
be out there doing tackling drills.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Well, you remember early in the year, oh Jo, they
had them running wind springs when they lost the game.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Oh that's right, Oh that coach did have. See now,
right now, after the game is over. They shouldn't even
be able to shower everybody outside, and we're doing they
got to.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Be seventy to seven. You ain't doing nothing. You ain't mussy.
You know what I'm saying. They the correct way is musty.
We see mussy man, Get your musky ass out of Listen.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
They played in South Bend, right, yes, yeah, listen.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
I'm not well.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
I can't remember the head coach's name for Syracuse, but
I would have had the plane. We're not going nowhere.
Wait till the stadium clear out. Everybody, come back out here,
put your pass on. We're doing tackling drills. We're not
even getting on the plane. We're not even going home.
We don't even deserve to get on the flight.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
They need to do some offensive drills too, because they
only passed for ninety five yards. They had one hundred
and twelve yard. They only had one hundred and twelve
yards rushing. There are one hundred and twelve yards rushing
on fifty carries. Hold on, no, the Dame had no
chat not the Dame had three hundred and twenty nine
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yards rushing six touchdowns on twenty four carries.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Hold on, let me tell you what's even worse, though.
Think about this, Think about if Syracuse could tackle right.
Think if Syracuse did have defense, was able to stop
the run. Please tell the chat how many yards car
had thrown today?
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Forty nine d had sixty seven to the yards There
were nine of fifteen for sixty seven yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
See if you was able to stop the run. If
you was able to stop the run. Now you're allowing
people to run. If you're able to run on a team,
if you're able to impose your will and move a
man off a spot against his will and freedom, this
is the kind of day you're gonna have. And once
you could do that, it's a rap.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
It's a rap.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
There's no need to throw the ball, there's no need.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
They had less than four because here's the problem that
you run into, is that every time they touch the ball,
they going to hit the head on the goal post post.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yeah, jeorde love, because.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Think about it, you had twenty four rush attempts and
basically a fourth of those ended in a touchdown touchdown.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
I'm curious, I'm curiez. I mean at some point pride
has to set in. You got the one to hit somebody.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Nothing in the first quarter, forty nine nothing at the
have fifty six nothing at the end of three.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Is that disrespectful A mister Franklin running the.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Score up like that, He didn't run his card. I
empty my bitch. Hell. I called a couple of kids
out the stands here, come here, play football, son, No sir,
he'll get in the game. Maybe they can tackle you,
cause they can't tackle me. They can't tackle these kids
that actually played before.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Hey, what you say you put a couple of kids
out the.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Sand, got a couple of kids out of the stand? Hey,
you up played football before? Son, No, sir, he'll get
it here. We're gonna hand you the ball up. Hey,
But that's a that's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
That's funny. That's funny. That's a good I mean twenty
fourth rushes, bro, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I've damn there fifteen yards to carry.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yeah, them boy laid down out there, man, they hold on.
They laid down early. They laid down early. Thirty five
zero in the in the first first quarter. That means
you ain't want you ain't want no smoke. You ain't
trying to play no football. Seventy y'all going through They
going through the motions. Man, come on, man, at least
play for the s on your helmet. If you ain't
gonna play for the ass on your helmet, play for
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your head coach. If you ain't gona play for your
head coach, play for your teammates. If you ain't gonna
play for your teammates, at least play for the name
on the back of the jersey.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Because people that would have to know how what you
call them gonna do. I already know my home was
gonna kill me when I go back home. The breaks off,
y'all shop, What the hell y'all was doing nothing.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Anybody, anybody that played with Syracuse and you got a girlfriend,
she should dump you. She got to leave you, shet,
she got to leave you.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I ain't taking no call. She ain't taking no calls to.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Block, block, block everybody.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
She might be in the deal. She might be in
a George love he love.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Listen, listen if if you have her. If you're in
a relationship, ladies, and you're dating someone on the Syracuse
football team, I suggest you break up with them, because
that's that's uncalled for. There should be no reward. There
should be no reward for being in a relationship after
that bullshit they pulled a day.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Yeah, that's bad.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Oh Joe, You ever scored seventy points on somebody?
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, Madden.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
The optoty is the act of football in your life?
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Oh no, not real life? Hell no, hell nah. You
know any any game I've played in, it's always been
a game of like. But I like to call quality
on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
No, it was they was thought to be a quality.
Now we I beat We beat more House when you're
for home coming, seventy to thirteen. We beat Clark like
sixty to twenty. Oh.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
We usually put points on people. Ohach other we put Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
Mean that's not fair on y'all. Wasn't playing nobody.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
We played them. I mean we made it look like nobody.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Okay, I see, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
You know what I'm saying. They was somebody before we
got older.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
They ass right, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
See that. What you gotta do, See, you gotta beat them. See,
if you get into a fight with somebody, you don't
beat them into turn them loose. You beat them to
their break loose. I don't see animals fight. Yeah, and
when he break loose to go, he never got to
worry about him again.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Okay, I see what you mean. I see what you mean.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I see we made more house break loose. They took
a foss the schedule for a couple of years and
at least until I left. Now they about have played.
They might have came back, and it's fun the block
after I was left. But they ain't want no parts
of number to mm hmmm, because we cut everybody ass
clark All being in state, it didn't matter, didn't matter,
(50:03):
Moe Brown, they got it too.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yeah you know that. You notice you ain't called fam huh.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
But listen, oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Now, I don't know what Faan would have done before
Number two got there or after, but they would have
selled now they.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
Or this, You don't think so, no, sir, reach Okay, I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Getting just what I know. I'm getting off the bus
getting one hundred.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Now, your best bet is to try to keep me
from getting one fifty two hundred in a couple of tubs.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
I don't know. It's a different ball game down there.
But the boy down there in Tallahshee especially back in
them days. What year was at Savannah State eighty six
to eighty nine? Oh head, old boy, this boy wasn't
playing back then. Boy, them boy wasn't playing back then.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Them boys? Were you doing back THEO? You know I
call a touchdown in twenty one straight games? Huh?
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Yeah, yeah, you ain't hear what I just said now, huh?
What th think about the level of competition obviously HBCU
great talent, Yeah, elite talent, sometimes not getting opportunities they
want to do, want to have the b at p
W I s right, but fam you in the eighties
you didn't want none of that. I'm telling you that, Oh.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Joe, you do realize I was one of them guys.
They was supposed to be at a PWI, right.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
Yeah, I understand that.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
And it was a whole lot of them too. Yes,
but they couldn't see me, Oh Joe. If I did
what I did in the NFL, can you imagine me
what I was doing in the HBCU. Yeah, So just
think about said, damn, damn what to the whole from
hb I can just imagine he will yes, Yeah, all right,
(51:34):
all right, oh.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Y'all, I averaged twenty yards a catch for a career.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Uh, but a career.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Can I ask you something? Yes, I want you to
remember this name, joh Quay Noneley. Okay, he averaged twenty
twenty yards to catch for his career too. A fam
you Yeah, well, he's he's a he's an Edison red
rated legend.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah. Come on now, hey, guess what. Yes, you have
had two hundred. I'd have had three hundred. Nah.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
But if the boys back then, that defense back then,
that defense, that that Ratler defense in the eighties were
especially eighty six to eighty nine. At of matter of fact,
eighty six to ninety two.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Oo, you would have heard it would have been No,
you wouldn't heard nothing. All you had heard it? Little
tell movie just a little bit. Nah, Nah, listen, Cook
the better out of Cook.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
No, I'm telling you, man, I'm telling you, you do realize.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Georgia Southing. We played Georgia Southern. Georgia Southern.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
They ended up winning the one double A national championship
the year we played them, I said, I said, a
stadium record on them nine for two oh two. Cook
elon the year before they were in the NIA National Championship.
Sam for two twenty one. Oh the bigger the school
Elon not elon uh uh Wofford cooked them, leave them
(53:00):
for two and two. If you if you were really
really good coase of a you know, uh, you know
there's gonna be some scouts here because they got some
good That's all I need to hear.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
Just did just say scouts.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
They could have been boy scouts, girl scouts selling damn
cookies on the sireline.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
I was cutting ass.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Yeah, listen, it sound good, it sound good. But them
boy down here in Florida, listen, hey, listen, don't listen.
Let me let me finish nine them boys coming out
of day Daden Brower County. That was down there in Tallahassee.
That made up that that that that Florida and m
Rather football team. Boy, you wouldn't have got nothing, you
hear me? And that and that's what hey, listen, that's
(53:35):
with all due respect to what you did to get
some teams you played when you played you know that's
Savannah State man, and boy down here ain't playing that. Man, Hey,
you ain't getting they than you. I'm just telling I'm
telling you. I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm
telling you what I know.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
I'm a double edged sword. I was cutting ass left
and right. You don't say you dot some sword. They're
just sharp on one side. I'm double edged. I'm cutting
ass on the left side of names on the right side.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
I said, it's different, you know that. You notice all
the schools you just named, none of them had to
do none with Florida. Ain't had nothing to do number
with Florida. It's a different it's a different type of breed.
Down here, man, you hit me.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Oh we played played we played one year? Who Central Florida?
Who is that Central Florida?
Speaker 3 (54:21):
I don't know nothing about that school there?
Speaker 2 (54:24):
What stop it?
Speaker 3 (54:24):
I know, I don't know that you t why you see? Yes, yeah,
they must have just started that year. Done, Yeah, they
must have just started that year.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Cook them, go look at it. Cook them.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
They had a guy to end up, if I'm not mistaken,
got drafted by the Cowboys in the third round.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
They came down, and they came down. I think his
name was Ford Bernard.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
For look he who won the game? Oh?
Speaker 1 (54:49):
They won, they beat us, but I beat them.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
You know what I'm saying. They was talking about.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Man, who is that number? Two?
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Yo? You use that and use that there cutting Oh
for sure, okay anywhere.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Look we went to uh my sophomore year, I made
a Black college All America. Sure, I was the only
Sochebore to make the team. UH coach uh Gramley's head coach,
coach Eddie Robertson, Eddie robb uh coach W. C. Gordon Such,
I mean all the coaches, Moe Forte, they had Willie Jeffers,
(55:22):
and they was talking about all these guys. Howard Valor
was at the game, Vincent Vince Carnor, Howard Reed, all
these guys. My coach said, I got the baddest in here.
Mm hmm, all them guys, y'all talking about my guy
gonna play on Sundays. And he a sophomore. He the
baddest in here.
Speaker 3 (55:42):
He like he was talking about you.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
He had he had the baddest in there, a true sophomore.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
All right, right about you?
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Yeah, hey, hey, speaking the sentence of me on the
topic of eighthbcus, I just want to congratulate but through
cooking the Wildcats winning the Florida Classic today, salute the
y'all boys, all the Wildcats out there, ratless. We're gonna
be all right, We're gonna be all right. We're gonna
be back next year. We got one more game. We
got Mississippi Valley State, uh next weekend. We need to
finish the season all strong with the win. I'm not
(56:13):
sure it's gonna happen with the coaching vacancy, but whatever
coach comes in the play, we're gonna have success next year.
But I guarantee you one thing. I guarantee we won
the halftime show, ratless. I guarantee we want a halftime show.
And if we didn't win the half Thorne show halftime show,
I guarantee you we won the fifth quarter. Yeah, oh Joe, Yeah, y'all.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Bad with it?
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Hey, I'll bad. Have been playing. I bad been playing?
Speaker 1 (56:35):
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't do that?
Speaker 3 (56:45):
Hey, Hey, that's the that's the best thing about ADCU
football games. When that crank up and when the band
crank up, or they playing in the in the middle.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
Oh man, you talking about you're not supposed to be
playing when the opposing team got the ball.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
To get all that.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
That's the window out the window out the window. But
it ain't We're gonna be playing because I would give
them something to play for. Yeah, goa be playing. What's
the what's the what I mean? You got to beat
the budget in Cincinnati? We got beat by uh oh hey, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
That wasn't necessary. You take a ticket shot set.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
The big the most I got, like thirty seven. I
lost thirty seven nothing to the Eagles. No, ain't nobody
to dropped, No forty fifty.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Hell no, I mean thirty seven nothing to fifty.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
I mean the same thing.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
You ain't too far off.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Oh oh, jo, we dropped seventy, No, said Bud. You
start getting it, you start getting the fifties.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Touchdown? Oh Joe, you know how many touchdowns?
Speaker 1 (57:47):
Hold on?
Speaker 3 (57:47):
We had a we had a game. We played the
Cleveland Browns. We didn't lose. What I'm saying it got
in the fifties. I think the score was fifty seven forty.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
Five or something like that.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, yeah, were you there?
Speaker 3 (57:58):
Yeah? I was there.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (57:59):
No, I think that they were going back and forth
there like hey we was scoring hella touchdown yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah I remember that. So now you got that in
my head.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
Now, oh George, you.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
Had to guess, right, now, just looking at through the
first eleven weeks, ten eleven weeks of the twelve weeks
of the college football season, who do you see on
the landscape that could actually beat Ohio State?
Speaker 3 (58:29):
Shit, actually beat them convincingly. Nobody gonna beat him convincingly.
A team that can give him a hard time.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
Maybe Georgia, Indiana.
Speaker 3 (58:43):
Georgia, Indiana, Georgia, Indiana as great. I mean, I would
say Texas if they were a little bit more consistent offensively,
but they've been consistent offensively against somewhat inferior opponents. He's
played good. But I need to see just a quarterback
play great decision making to say, you know what, you
(59:05):
can go in there and beat Ohio State. Great defense,
but you still got to put up points.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah, the game Ohio State is gonna be at home,
so the likelihood of somebody going in there beating them,
they're probably not likely. You're gonna probably have to get
him on the neutral field, Ojo. I don't think get
him on the neutral field.
Speaker 3 (59:21):
But Indiana good, that defense on't that defense?
Speaker 1 (59:25):
And then we find a lot because you know, Michigan
play them tough no matter what, No matter what Michigan
might look might what you might think may or may
not think of Michigan. Michigan play them tough. Michigan is physical.
They're a physical team. They're gonna run the football and
they're gonna try to shut your water off and stop
you from running the football. So it's gonna be a
very interesting matchup. And you know, Michigan has a true
(59:46):
freshman at quarterback. How much pressure can they they put
on him and to coax him into a few mistakes
Because I'm not mistaken. I think this game is in Michigan, ojo,
it is. Yeah, I think this game is at the
big House. M hm.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
You know normally we grow up the big house. You
ain't want to go to the big house.
Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Nah, I mean not that a big house, no show, don't.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
So it's uh, it's gonna be it's gonna be tough.
They got Look, we got some good teams. You've got Georgia, Uh,
you got h A and M doesn't have a loss.
Excuse me, A and M has no losses. Indiana has
no loss. Uh. You got a few teams out there
to have one loss. So it's gonna be interesting to see.
But they'll got those two outstanding receivers, they can run
(01:00:32):
the ball. The quarterback is really really good. Uh, you're
gonna have to work cut out. You're gonna have to play.
Ohio State's gonna have to get outside of themselves. You're
gonna have They're gonna have to turn the ball over.
They gonna have to be sloppy. You're gonna have to
make them and and and you know, you gonna have
to create some turnovers. You're gonna have to get create
some big play for yourself because I just don't know
if you can just some methodically just go down to
(01:00:53):
the field athodically ten drive to get there. You're gonna
have to get a couple of splash plays, yeah, and
flip field position. But it's gonna be It's gonna be
very very interesting to see how this thing shapes out.
Who makes the college football playoffs? What brackets are they in?
How soon If Georgia gonna be on the same side
(01:01:14):
as Ohio State, Uh, you know something something along Texas
saying them where the seeding.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
So that's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
That's gonna be very very interesting to see how this
thing shapes out. Oh yeah, but I'm anxious. I'm ready now.
Uh is it clear? No, huh huh is it clear?
(01:01:45):
I can hear what you said?
Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Is it clear?
Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
What clear?
Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Or you can see it?
Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Huh yeah a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
I think the camera trying to focus by itself. Hey,
if I am, he can And Jordan, if I if
I put my camera on auto with it focus.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
On it, he said, if he put his camera auto
with it focus, no, he said, no, no, damn, Oh Joe,
you see can you see what they got up talking
about the best fifty.
Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Someone dropped the top fifty running backs ever in college?
Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
In college? Who number one?
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
They got? Jonathan Taylor number.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
At number one?
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Who made that look? Kid?
Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Oh? Okay since two thousand? Okay, since now Reggie Reggie's
number one since two thousand. Reggie Bush is number one
since two thousand. I'm not putting Jonathan Taylor over Reggie
or Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Well?
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Who number three.
Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
They got? Can you see it as your sending to you?
Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Oh, hold on, hold on me, let me look at
that thing I got. I got to chat up on
my phone. Okay, here we go. Oh, that's a good list. Hey,
Derren McFadden was that boy boy?
Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Since two thousand? Oh ho I was like all time.
Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
I was like, oh hell no, a oh Monty ball,
I old just bring back memories.
Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Had some running backs now they did?
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Yeah, I mean Jonathan Taylor has been the best one
in the NFL from the Melvin Gordon. Melvin Gordon had
had a nice career, but when you go look at
Ron Daane and and some of those other guys that
came into the league, they didn't. They didn't have nearly
the career like a Melvin Gordon, like a Jonathan Taylor.
So John, clearly Jonathan Taylor has had the best NFL career.
Melvin Gore was was a solid ball player as well.
Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Hey, speaking of didn't Michael Bennett go to Wisconsin too?
That went to Minnesota right on my tripping.
Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
I think so he might did?
Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
He was real fast. If I'm not mistaken, I might,
I might might. I might have the wrong school. Michael
James at Oregon. Yes, it's must Sy TV, Mark Musty TV,
Christian McCaffrey, Breese Hall.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
That list chat.
Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Hell yeah they like it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
No, No, ain't nobody.
Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Reggie Bush was the most electrified running back since two thousands,
and it ain't even close. No, nobody was close to
Reggie mm hmm as oh Joe running back and he
was a returner. Yeah, Reggie was the most electrified.
Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Hey, hey, who is twenty five? I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Who that is. Kadem Carry with the Arizona he had
an okay career, not nothing in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
He was good at college player r.
Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
SPROS spros.
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Was a utility night.
Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
I mean he ran.
Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
At the Chargers New Orleans, Philly, Philly.
Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Yeah, I like I like that list. I mean seeing
some of these names. I haven't seen some of these
names in a long time. They bring back good mirror
memories watching watching college football.
Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yes, they ain't like Zeke. They ain't put Zeke up
there at Ohio.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Yeah, he had a good He had a good career
at Ohio.
Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
State, oh Man Man.
Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
The first year to college the football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
I mean that number that he had over two hundred
yards and three games Oregon, Alabama, and I think it
was whether Penn State or who wasn't in the Big
Ten championship game he went over two hundred and then
he goes to twenty against Bama, and then he goes
like two forty two fifty against Oregon.
Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Let's see Reggie Reggie was nice. They God, damn uh
okay okay
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