Nightcap - Hour 1: LeBron & Bronny in Cleveland, Unc’s shocking confession, Pat Bev goes off

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and NBA champion J.R. Smith discuss Los Angeles Lakers’ LeBron and Bronny James return to Cleveland in a 134-110 loss to the Cavs. Later, Ocho and J.R. are in shock as Unc says he wouldn’t hesitate to fire his own kids if necessary, Patrick Beverly saying JJ Reddick would have been fired  if the Lakers would've started off 0-3 and much more!

03:13 - Show start
03:35 - Intro
07:30 - Lakers v Cavs
39:20 - Pat Bev on JJ Reddick
51:00 - D-Wade on Statues
58:30 - Joe Mazulla wants fighting back

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Speaker 1 (04:51):
Let's give JR. Smell swish around of applau what's handy,
let's handed man. I appreciate you, bro, We appreciate this.
We really appreciate you. Played for a long time. Obviously
you understand the game.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
You are very integral part on teams that went to
the championship, that won a championship. So it's nice to
have somebody. When we talked basketball, we had Gil last year.
Gil did an unbelievable job. Uh and Gil from time
to time he says we ever need him, he's available.
And so Gil, we really thank you for your contribution
and your service last year.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Jr. Is your turn up. It's your turn under fire.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
So we look forward to getting your expertise on a
lot of different subjects with it. It involves basketball, and hey,
we're gonna talk football. We're gonna talk a whole lot
of other things. I know you're a football fan, so
at a golf I want to talk football.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I want to tech football. Child.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I tain't looking man, we look at stink right now.
I don't want to talk football right now.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
All right, all right, let's get right into it.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
The Cavaliers blow out the Lakers one as Brownie James
scored this first NBA point and his dad watches from
the bench. Jared Allen scored twenty points, had seventeen rebounds,
Evan Mobley had five points, and Donovan Mitchell had twenty
four points. The Lakers were led by Lebron James, who
played only twenty nine minutes because the game got out

(06:12):
of hand. Anthony Davis continued his great play, having twenty
two points and thirteen rebounds. The Lakers were unable to
cut the Cleveland lead after falling behind by twenty three
in the first half. In the final minutes, Bronni grew
up in this arena. He made a fourteen foot jumper
with two minutes and three seconds to play for his
first NBA points. He's only a little over forty thousand

(06:33):
from catching his dad.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Switch.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
When you watch this game and considering how well the
Lakers had played, even though they lost the other night,
I think it was last night. I think last night
they lost by four to Phoenix, but they won the
previous three. When you look at them, the first three games,
last night and tonight. What didn't you like about what
you saw from the Lakers?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
I mean, for me, it's a lot about ball movement.
Uh you know. For one, I mean, bron is what forty,
you're about to be forty Yeah. Yeah, So for me,
it's like, at the end of the day, like seeing
him lead the charge is concerning and it's alarming because obviously,

(07:20):
you know, you need a you need an extra guy,
you need an extra guy or two. But to be
doing it at his age is it's incredible. But at
the same time, he shouldn't have to be carrying a
load like that. And for me, what's alarming that that
is when you look at the guys who've been working
out all season long, all off season long, been in

(07:41):
the gym, and is like, this is the time, especially
earlier on in the season, this is the time where
you you know, you start displaying so further on down
the line, down the road, middle of the year, end
of the year, they're like, Okay, we can trust this guy.
This is this is where he's been, you know, this
is where he's been excelling. For me, being being in
those situations, I don't see that from their role players,

(08:04):
the guys they brought back, Like where are you getting
better at? Like what part of their game were you
evolving to?

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Where?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Okay, we was lacking this part of this year last year.
I'm gonna be a knockdown shooter. I'm gonna be a
lockdown defender. I'm gonna be somebody who getting in the
pick and roll and you know, it makes plays. I
don't see that from this team so far. So that
for me, that's the most alarming part about it. But
it is still early. Yeah, I'm watching them and the turnovers.

(08:30):
When you look at it, Ad had the most shot
He had nineteen. He was nine of seventeen, Ruey was
four six, Lebron was nine to thirteen. D Low was
two of seven, and Austin Reeve was two a six.
Now that's two a six and two a seven is
not great percentage. But they only got six shots. Swish
they only got seven shots. Ad only had nineteen because
you had twenty turnovers.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
So now you don't even give yourself an opportunity to
get into an offense. You don't even give yourself an
opportunity to knock down shots to get into the pick
and roll or you know, what I'm saying to run
the d drive, to drive a dribble hand off, so
when you turn the ball over, you give them easy
buckets on the other end. And so now they shooting
fifty eight percent from the floor, they shoot forty two

(09:13):
percent from the three. Well, if you allow team to
shoot fifty eight percent from the floor, swish you know this,
and you allowed team to shoot forty two percent from
the three, you losing that game.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
You're gonna get smoke a lot. Yeah, I'm about to
say you're gonna get smoked. You ain't gonna lose, you
gonna get It's gonna be embarrassing. But when I heard
out for me, it's like, you know, obviously a guy
like Austin Reize is something Knights, you're gonna have off
nights and stuff like that. But you gotta figure out
a way for him to get more than six to
eight shots. Like, if he's gonna be that one of those,

(09:42):
the third guy to brown the eighty, he's got to
figure out a way to get eight more at least
ten to twelve shots. D'Angelo Russell to ten to twelve shots,
I mean twenty four minutes, five assists at the point
guard with the players you're playing with no disrespect to
d LO.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
But I'm gonna need more out of that.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
And on the top of the on top of that,
you're not you're not my primary defender on the ball,
so you got to give me something. So for me,
it's a lot of that. And on top of that,
and when I sit here and look at it, they
had thirty seven assists to their twenty one.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
You ain't gonna win many games like that. You know what,
I got a question. You talk about some of the
players that need to take more shots. How do you
know when it's okay to take those shots? Do you
have the green light from the head coach? You have
the green light from the other players to override passing
the ball and be have the willingness to shoot.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
How much he make? How Delo bake about Delo bake about?
What about seventeen to twenty one? Offing about shots? But
you're talking about shots?

Speaker 6 (10:46):
Let it go so you can shoot that wheel based
on your salary.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
One hundred percent. Here what they're gonna.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
Say, Okay, okay, okay o.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
What they gonna say? Hey, look, when they ain't throw
you the ball? You were it was by yourself. It
is just man on man what you was looking. Hey, bro,
ain't no man over the top. Ain't nobody over the top?

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Help it? Give me the ball. This is prime time.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
So for me, when I look at it honestly, like
when I look at guys like d lo Reeves and
you're going in that third fourth option, Ruy Ruy, I
mean Ruy for sure.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I think Ruy's a lot.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
He's underrated for me because what he does is disguised
by how.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Good Lebron is.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Because when you look at his size, he can guard
all positions, he can shoot the ball, he can put
the ball on the floor, create a play, he can defend,
obviously rebound like he's he's in a tough situation because
he's playing with a guy like Lebron. So that's the
same thing, like kind of like Jeff Green fell in
that error with us when he was a Cleveland. He's
in the same similar situation. So Lebron is gonna they're

(11:48):
gonna cater to Lebron when he's on the floor, so
it doesn't really do him justice when they play them together.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, you know a D and Lebron's gonna get the
low bocal the shots. You know that.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Now, let's what do you guys are feel again, we
saw early in the season Oustar reeves feeling it. So
he's gonna get fifteen to eighteen shots d lo he
gets hot one night. Okay, now that might creep up
the twenty shots in a given night, but you know, La,
Lebron and ad are gonna get the bulk of the shots.
But I think a lot of this had to do
it because they were getting blowed out Swish. They only

(12:18):
played twenty eight, twenty four, twenty nine, thirty one minutes.
It's hard to get those kind of shots, and that's
find that small amount of time. Now, if they played
their normal minutes, maybe they can get up a few
more shots. But when you turn the ball over, everybody's
shots for coming down because you don't even get an
opportunity to put the ball up because you've turned it over.

(12:39):
And as you mentioned, they had thirty seven assists, So
that's telling me great ball movement. It's also telling me,
y'all turn the ball over. They get some cheap assists after.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
That one hundred percent, and you look at the rebounds
thirty seven and thirty six. The Lakers actually win the
rebound game. Yeah, they still get smoked. So for me,
it's obviously it's the turnof it's turnovers. Sure, because I
was a big fan of especially in transition. People hate
the transition three early threes. I'm taking the early good
look opposed to me swinging around the horn and we

(13:10):
turn this joint over and now I got to turn
into track start going on the other end.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I'm gonna put this up.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I felt like I got a better percentage of making
this opposed to us turning the ball over, and then
we got to get a stop on the other side.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
What about a situation like this wish where guys are
trying early on, trying to say I'm so unselfish, and
you overpassed the ball and you end up turning it
over like you said, You're like, okay, I got a
good look in transition, I'm gonna let it rip as opposer. Oh,
hot potato, Hot potato. Next thing, you know, the ball's
going out of bound. You're like, come on, man, go
ahead take that shot.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, it's you know, it's tough when when you come
into situations like when I first got to Cleveland, we
used to run into that a lot because it got
Kyrie at the point, me at the two. We got
bron K love and obviously trusting setting Springs and Rose
and Mazi. But we look around the horn, it's like
we got like, listen, I got a good shy, but
he got a great shot, so let me kick it

(14:02):
to him. And you know, guys just operating so fast.
You want to be unselfish, by at the same time,
it's like, if I don't take this shot, then he's
not gonna be open when we needed to be open.
So for me a lot of those times, it's like,
I want to be unselfish, but at the same time,
I got to be selfish for the team because it's
going to help us out in the long run.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Twitch you watched Bronnie grow up, spend a lot of
years with lebron in Cleveland and see Bronni go from
a seven eight nine year old tone here he is
in the NBA. What do you what is what is
this moment? What do you think this moment means for lebron.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Man, I mean I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
I can only imagine like to be able to I
just had my first son, he seve weeks, So for
me thinking about man appreciate.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
You appreciate y'all. Man, But you know we saw that, right,
I mean, I'm sure you did. We're gonna leave that switch.
We're gonna leave that alone. But I'm just saying, I
just walk you to the we saw that. Hey, hey,
you know what I heard you. I ain't seen you,
but I heard you. Okay, there you go. Good switch.
It's too soon switching. You know what.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
As a matter of fact, we thought on the same timeline.
It's about Phelim weeks, so you know what. That's why
that's why I left the headline so quick, because you
pushed me out. You like, get your ass out of
your headlines.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Hey, I got the seventy two hour rule out. It's
over straight up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
But you're saying this moment for Lebron and even the
city of Cleveland to see Lebron come back and brain
Junior with it.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, man, I mean, honestly, Bronnie is such a you know,
you hear about so many different kids in so many
different situations who were like, you know, their parents are stars,
and they arrogant and they cocky, and they feel like
they just you know, the world is supposed to be
their oyster and Brownie is the complete opposite.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Man.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
It's like it's a very humbling feeling to see him
in the situation he's in, and he's very he's very
it's very grateful for the opportunity, you know, to live
out your dreams as a kid. That's that's one of
the very very rare, you know, few things that unfortunately
us three have been able to do. But like to

(16:18):
actually live it out and have your pops there with
you to show you, to really show you the ropes,
it's very it's inspiring, man, Like I really look at
it and think of, like, this is something I would
definitely want to give my kid one day. If I
can give them the keys to if you can get
the keys to the chevy to your son, Like what's
different than giving them the keys to the business or

(16:39):
give them the keys to the game, like just and
just letting them take it for, you know, what they
wanted to be and regardless of the shoes that we
feel because obviously Bron is Bron and goes down as
the goat and everything else in comparison is going to
be there, be there or whatever. But to actually be
able to live out your dream is something that very
few people get to do, so I just hope he's
in a a place to where he can actually absorb

(17:03):
it and be happy and be satisfied with it.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Now.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
I don't Hey and Jay, I don't think people understand
how dope this situation is, this scenario as a father,
as a father myself, and I'm just imagining being able
to play long enough in the NFL, which is hypothetically
it's damn there impossible, and to be able to play
long enough for your son to join you, just that

(17:27):
feeling and knowing all the work you know, Briny and
Brown have put it over the years, and how it's
paid off.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
Not only he's paid off.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
But he's now he has opportunity to share the court
and the sport in which they love and have grown
up playing all their life, and then to share it
on the same team, And that that is is dope
in itself. And I really can't really put it into
words how awesome it is. A lot of people have
been critical of it, obviously, saying, you know, the whole
favoritism and he only got he's only there because of

(17:56):
his father. Well hell, god, damn yeah, well shit, you're
supposed to take it manage those opportunities when you have,
you know, the cachet and you have the power that
Lebron does to be able to bring your son on
with you and allow him to live out a dream,
you know, to play at the highest level. To me,
it's damn it's unreal. It's unreal, and it's dope. It's motive,

(18:19):
it is motivating, it's inspiring, and I just wish, I
wish I could have done something like that. Obviously I can't,
So I'm going to live my carestery to them and
that that that's ship. That's pretty much it.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Man.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
That that's really really dope.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Man.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
You ain't saying that in football. You ain't gonna see
that in football. Jay Or let somebody have a kid
while they're in high school and they can play with
and they.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Can play because I mean, you guys, think about it.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Tom Brady played twenty three seasons, right, his son is
probably a sophomore junior high school. Yeah, so he would
have had to have that kid at fifteen sixteen. So therefore,
by the time he's thirty two, Tom got another eleven years.
So by the time now, all of a sudden, that's
a realistic possibility. Now you know, there might be somebody

(19:07):
that the plot like to drop this one right here,
you know, because that's what it's gonna take. O Joe,
you can't.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I mean, Lebron had a kid at twenty, got.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
A kid at twenty.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Even if you have a kid at twenty in the
in the NFL, bro, what's the likelihood you play in
another twenty seasons?

Speaker 5 (19:35):
Not good unless you're a quarterback and you really really
really really really damn good.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
And now your son because the difference is.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
NFL players don't have the kind of leverage that an
NBA player have, right especially a superstar like a Lebron,
because the positions are so valuable. So it's gonna like
I said, I think Gordy Howe, I think he might
have played with his sons back in the you know,
but the likelihood of you seeing that in the NFL,
but it's an unbelievable I agree with you, O Joe.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
It is. It is.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I mean, if my kids wanted to do this, they
could have an opportunity, but they don't cut it up
a fire ass.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Time.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
Come on, man, time out, time I time about your kids?

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Would I no?

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Like serious all Jose's side, would you fire your kids.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah. Wait, so would you fire or like reposition them
in I will.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Reposition them and getting them another job with another company. Yeah,
but I think the thing is with But here's the thing.
I wouldn't have to fire my kids because the job
that they're gonna do, I know they'll be able to
do it. I'm not gonna ask them to do CJ job.
Who's the EP at club. I'm not going to ask

(20:50):
them to do Ash's job or something like that. An
editor or graphics. That's not where the good at. I
can find a job where they can be good at that.
But if you know, I'm a demanding boss and they're
my kid asked the sick, they don't do that, but

(21:12):
we I mean, look, I think I owe them that
to give them an opportunity if they wanted to do this.
But my son didn't want to play football. He's like
it was too much because he dropped a pass and
they tell him where your dad would have caught that.
I know your uncle would have caught it. Well, you
ain't got speed like your dad. He didn't even want
to hear that. Man, let the make roll he thirteen

(21:33):
twelve eleven.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
What you mean, it's crazy to me because like we
like again and it happens to us a lot in
our community where you know, we throw shade on stuff
like that. But when I really look back at it,
look back on it, like my owner in Denver for
the Denver Nuggets, like our owner standing cronky at the time,
like he couldn't own a certain amount of sports team,

(21:58):
so he gave it to a son, right, Josh, Josh
run the team. Josh own the team now and everything
else is staying running owns the Rams.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
And it's like.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Nothing avalanche, like, uh, you got yeah, yeah, he gotta
got a soccer team.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, like nobody but nobody said nothing.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Nobody was like it wasn't like he gave it, like
his son isn't qualified this, and it was just like,
oh no, hold on.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
And they've been passing businesses down for hundreds of years,
j R. And they don't and they don't batter I
it's us somehow feel that we shouldn't do that.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Oh it's nepotism.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
If that's the whole part of being in position I
can do something for It's the first time that I'm
in position that I can actually hired. Is mofo that's mine.
He gonna get hired. Well, what can he do whatever
I want, whatever I wanted to do, if he just
come in and just loaf and he don't have to
do that till news. Whatever he wants to do or
she wants to do, they can do that because guess what,

(23:00):
this is my issue. So I've always wanted I didn't
know if I've ever would be in a position to
do that, but they they, Oh, he's gonna take over.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Look at okay, look at Jerry Jones, his sons, his son.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
And his daughters, Jerry Jerry Jr. And what's the what's
the other name that look just like Jerry Stephen Stephen
the Steinbrenders hainting hal mm hmm. What what what do
they do besides me hit the lottery? Oh, my dadd
is mister George Steinbrener. My dadd is Jerry Jones, X,

(23:36):
Y and Z. So my kids should have the same thing.
They hit the lottery last day, they daddy Shannon Sharp.
So if my kids want to come, well, my daughter's
gonna come in January. I'm telling y'all, my daughter's putting
in her two month notice. She put in a two
month notice so she comingy, she gonna be an employee.

(23:57):
Now I don't know if she's gonna relocate because she
loves the A. But yeah, that's the whole point. I mean,
we shouldn't feel bad somehow we've been made to feel
bad if we help someone, a family member or someone
in our community.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
I ain't feeling bad about ish, nothing, nothing.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
So let me ask you this, how does that feel
being able to like being a parent and being able
to put your child in a situation to where they
can excel, not only excel, but learn on their own time,
and like really take it, you know, take it as
far as they want to take it.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
But plus, I want to see I want to see JR.
If this is something that they want to own or
am I gonna have to get off of it because
I don't want them to feel obligated because this is
Daddy's business. They feel this is not their passion. It's
just like my son, My passion was to go play
in the NFL. That wasn't his, so I wasn't going
to force my passion on him. I still won't force

(24:52):
my passion on my kids. Gots, this is something that
you want to do, do you feel you have the
wherewithal do you want to put the time, energy, and
effort in it to do this for the next twenty
thirty years. And they say, Daddy, you know, we appreciate it,
but this is not what we that's not what I
want to do. So I don't want them to feel

(25:13):
obligated to do it. But jay'all, to answer your question,
it feels great. It feels great that I can really
help my kids. I can help my family and to
give my my daddy. That's like with Daddy, how much
I'm gonna make? I said, well, how much you think
you're gonna be worth? I said, don't be hey, don't
be coming here and talking about no quarter of a
million dollars at an entry level job. I said, but

(25:34):
I'll make it worth your while. I want you to
feel that you can. You can earn a decent money,
you can put some money away, but you don't have
to look because I don't want you to cry and
pull my oufter me talking about what Daddy, you ain't
paying me enough. So I'm gonna pay you enough where
you can earn a decent salth and you earn a
decent salary, but you can still live yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
I read an article on the Minnesota Twins where there
was you know, the family ended up just selling it.
But it's like their great grandfather had passed it down
throughout time and you know the great great grandkids or grandkids,
they don't want to run it or run a team
or sports team or whatever, but you just inherited, like
you know, a couple billion.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
For me, it's just like, you know, it's all in
obviously if they're around it, and if they if this
is something they graduate too, Like my son, like I
want them to Like as much as I love football
and I grew up playing football, I don't want him
to play golf more and I want him to play
football as me personally, Like I like, that's just something
I hope he just graduates too and takes two Now

(26:36):
that not necessarily say.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
He does, but just at least give him the tools.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
So that's why I look at it, Like in business,
when they passing it down to their kids and whatever else,
it's like it's not only just that business, is this life.
They teaching them life skills, like look, this is how
you flip something, this is how you make X, Y
and Z or quantify your dollar ten, next year dollar
by doing X Y and work regardless of you on
the sell baseball cards, whether you want to sell seats

(27:03):
at the arena or whatever, you're selling wine, whatever it is.
But I feel like it's just something that just goes
unsold and untold in.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Our and our you know, in our culture.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, because I was talking to they'll have the conversation
with Mark Cuban and he said that's one of the
reasons that he sold his team. He's like, you know,
my kids, do I want the burden? Do I want
to burden them if they don't want to do this
and just feel out an obligation. They got to run
a team. That's what I want to do. I want
to own a professional franchise. That's not Maybe that's not

(27:35):
what they want to do, and I don't want to
feel like they're obligated to have to do it.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Now.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
You know Jerry's kids, that's what they want to do.
All of them jumped into the family business. And long
after Jerry's gone, hopefully that's no time soon. Steven, Jerry Junior,
and Charlotte they're gonna run it and the grandkids they're
in the business. They're probably gonna run it, but everybody doesn't,
doesn't look at it like that on your and swish

(28:01):
and they're like, you know what, And if you don't,
if you don't have the passion to do it, let
it go before it starts to dwindle down and not
be what your your your grandfather or your father, your
great great grandfather passed down to you.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Just let it go before it starts to dissipate. M Hey,
you're gonna let one of the kids run one of
the McDonald's.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
Yeah, yeah, it depends that, you know what. McDonald's might
not be their passion. My kids a boogie, So I
don't think that's something that they would want to do.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
It's okay, now, not not work it. I'm saying, run it.
Just manage to make sure the money coming in, had
a couple of.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
Meetings take just to be honest, they wouldn't even do it.
They wouldn't even do it. That's that's that's not even
a passion of it is and probably something that they
wouldn't even want to do or take the responsibility on.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
See, that's the thing is the responsibility of every single
day you got to you know, at some point in
time I'm talking to ASK about something. I'm talking to
CJ about something and constantly thinking, Okay, how do I
get the better?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Okay? Ask what can we do? Okay? What graphics can
we run?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
What? What segments can we what can't segments? Can we build? Okay? CJ?
How do we make club Shahay? How do we be
cutting edge? You know a couple of situations where we
had a performer, somebody that would come in and singing,
and then we have a guess, and so that's we're
always we're always thinking about. But like I said, that's

(29:29):
not where that's not where my kids are. My kids
like my kids like collecting the check. They like being talent. No, no,
there's nothing wrong with that. Some people like that no responsibility.
I know I'm gonna make X, Y and Z, and
then I'm cool with that. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
I might make.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Something one week, I might make something totally different, but
I'm willing to bank on me. A lot of people
are not willing to bank on themselves. Some people will
work their ass off make somebody else rich, but won't
work their ass off to make themselves rich. Now explain that,
O Joe. Somebody will go sit their ass on somebody

(30:08):
else's job for twenty thirty years and make that person
and pay off their Airbnb and their time share and
help them get a lot and a lost in a
private jet.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
But you won't do that for you.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Yeah, but you have to understand, you think about, you
have to have a fucking passion for whatever it is
that you're doing to actually want to run it, the
discipline to actually want to run it, the discipline to
actually want to take on the responsibilities that come with
actually owning something. It ain't it ain't easy. It's very hard.
You think about all these entrepreneurs, Huh. All these entrepreneurs
have all these great ideas, and they always they always

(30:44):
crash out and burn because they expect instant's success.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
Nothing happens overnight.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
It long.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
It is a long, tedious process that many people don't
have the discipline for it, which is why they go
work for somebody else because it's instant check.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
But you had the discipline to get your ass up
every day for twenty years and thirty years then go
on that man job. Yeah, Yeah, discipline is disciplined. If
you got to get up knowing that I got to
be on this man on mister Charlie job at seven
thirty eight, thirty nine o'clock Monday to the winter Thursday Friday.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
You can't do that for you. Yeah, but it's also fear.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's fear of failure, that's fear accountability on yourself because
at the end of the day, you like, well, you're
putting and people don't realize this, like when you're trying
to make it, you putting everything into that. You got
to like very like you know, we know as athletes
because we put everything into it when we're trying to

(31:41):
like do family go by the side, the clothes, women
like everything dropped dropped by the wayside, because this one
goal gotta be achieved. And a lot of people don't
understand that because they didn't for one, didn't play team sports. Yeah,
a selfish individual and unless like calling for what it

(32:02):
is a lot of negative people out there, who negative
towards themselves, let alone other people. So they don't have
that belief system in themselves that they can even do it,
let alone that somebody else who looked like me, who
live next door, that can make it.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah, because that because a lot of times people will
project well if I can't do it, I'm would tell
Ocho he can't do it.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I'm gonna just wish that. Man, you no good will.
You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
No, you can't do it, right, don't don't, don't project,
don't be talking about what I can't do. And then
sometimes when you have start to have success, people sometimes
Ocho swish the only success people will take taste if
they take a bite out of you.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, man, I had a coach in Denver. I want
to cut you off.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I had a coach in Denver told me I will
never be a championship I will never start on a championship.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Ain't nobody told you that? But the ball here, George car.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
I swear ain't no, we will never start on a
championship team. I'm sitting here like damn like like am
I that selfish?

Speaker 6 (32:59):
Like?

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Am I that like? That?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Is it always all about me? And I'm sitting there,
look at a picture of your red man. I should
have sent them too, because I got two of them.
Times them for real.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
But let me ask you a question, Jail, when when
he's said that, because think about jay LR, you playing
for this man, how can I go invest put everything
I got into it? Get up in the morning and
deny my family and be where I'm supposed to be
lift these weights. And here I got a man that
I'm supposed to be playing for and he's telling me

(33:32):
what I can't do.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Hey, before you answer, Jay, the whole thought process anyway,
even once you get to the highest level of uncle,
you ain't playing for him, no way.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
What what if that? What if your coach? What if hello,
Mike Hember?

Speaker 2 (33:46):
What if Mike zim and marvel lewis telling you, oh, Jo,
we ain't gonna never win with you at start receiver?

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Hey listen, hey, listen, you know what. I ain't paying
that No mind who writing that check? What name is
on the back of that jersey?

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Uh hey, fifty eleven kids for need.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
I'm going to do what I need to do. I
am not playing for you. I'm just saying I need
my mentality on. It might be a little different. Yes,
George Carr was his coach, but hell, I'm playing for
the goddamn for one. That money I'm making to keep
it coming because if I don't play up the part
of the way I should be playing, I'm gonna be
out the door anywhere.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
I'm gonna wanna.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I'm gonna want to leave because at the end of
the day, you say that I'm not playing, but that's
the head coach and I am playing for him because
he coached.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
So I'm gonna want to go play. I want to
go play for somebody else. Okay, I want to I
want to go for a play for somebody that believed
that we can win.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
And I'm a bit and I'm an asset to that winning.
For you to tell me that, look, we're not gonna
we're not gonna be a championship team because you own it,
because you're starting, Oh Joe. They're telling you, man, we
can't win no championship with you, Oh Joe, not with
yourselfish ass. And remember remember what Tua said, how Brian
Floyd's told him he ain't playing for Brian Floyd. But

(35:04):
every day you suck. I didn't want you beat you down,
just like a parent, a parent that we've heard stories
of parents tell their kid, you never gonna mount it.
You saw the movie Precious, you saw it. Every day
you ain't ish, you ain't never be ish. You just
like this one. You just like your daddy, you just

(35:25):
like your mama. After a while, it does have an
impact on you. It takes a very very very few
people have been able to overcome back to hear that
negativity on a daily basis, on a constant and like,
you know what, I would be able to push through
it because it's just like you said, Oh Joe, you
got eighty thousand fans, only one thousand of them for

(35:48):
the opposing team. But you hear those boozs, don't you
for sure they a thousand booths can drown out.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Of eighty thousand applause, cheering.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I don't know what it is about the negativity that
rings so true in our ear and in a circle.
Think about the comments, Oh Joe, you get fifty thousand
comments if somebody say old penal ahead, O yo yo yo,
mama penal head.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
That's just the way we watched with check this out.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Pat Bell said JJ Reddick would have been fired if
they started oh and three.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Patrick Beverley said, if the Lakers would have started or in.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Three, everybody would have been yelling fire JJ Reddick now
top four seed in the west Market market it now.
I don't think they fired him after O three.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Come on, man, they ain't doing that. Ain't that.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Year deal It's funny because that fire fuck Championship coach
go O three all the show.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, but you just signed out. They ain't fired.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Now they gonna get They're gonna get. Well, hey, uh
he signed four years.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Well they got Adrian Griffin asked up out of the
after twenty three and nights after twenty nine and thirteen,
after forty two game the Man twenty nine and thirteen swish. Yeah,
that's a different situation though Jannis ain't signed off for that.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yep, Yan Yanni's had to sign up The Man go
without Gianni's Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah, you know, I'm saying that they hired them without
Jannis's permission. Oh okay, okay, he.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Was on the Yeah, he wasn't like you know what
I'm saying, Like, Nah was over there quickly now And.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
When I think about it, even if they did start
on three help start O five, O six, Hey, I
think Lebron would have to sign off on him letting
JJ ready go anyway, No.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
He' JJ Redick ain't going.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
I'm just saying, hyper hypothetically speaking what past said, man
that that ain't happened.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Regardless, they gotta go, the gotta go across his desk
I'll tell you that. I tell you that, I bet
you won't make a food without it could go across
two three deaths.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
I bet you that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
It's a but I like you, you know what swish
And like I said, I saw the first game.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Who did play?

Speaker 2 (38:07):
They played the Suns the second game and they fell
down by twenty two. That was a game last year
they down twenty two. The start is gonna be out
like midway through the third because the GI's gonna be
forty two.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yeah, and I'm not.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Look, it just seems like to me, even though they
lost tonight, notwithstanding, it seems like there's a lot less
looking around, like who's supposed to be where, who's supposed
to be doing what? It seemed like there's a lot
more accountability and maybe maybe they just need to hear
a new voice in their ear. Sometimes wish that's what
you need. But it just seems like the atmosphere, the

(38:40):
ambiance around this team is different. Do you see that
as a as a former NBA player from the outside
looking in? Or am I are we reading too much
into it?

Speaker 1 (38:49):
N You could definitely, I mean you could definitely tell
as a player and as a I mean we had
the number one team in the East, and we fired
our head coach and then t LU took over, and
even just the chemistry and like the atmosphere and the
vibe just changed.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
And I love David Black.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
David Black was amazing to me, Like he was one
of the few coaches that I had who really gave
me an opportunity to go rock as long as I
play defense. He said, you can shoot any shot you want,
you could do whatever crazy play you want or whatever,
but as long as you play defense to lock in,
you can do whatever. So I rock with Black. But
when he left, just because of like the chemistry around

(39:26):
the team wasn't where it needed to be.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
And I give.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
David Griffin a lot of credit for this because he's
seen that and he made the change right before, like
right it was right after All Star, I think, yeah,
and we was again first team in the East. Like,
but you can tell when certain things is off, and
it's literally just that fast. It's a switch like that,
and the vibration is completely different. Everybody, like you're saying,

(39:53):
everybody know where they're supposed to be. There's very little confusion.
If something does mess up, you know exactly where it
was at. It'd be so crisp to where fans can
literally pick it out and they can be right. I've
been I've been to a lot of been around a
lot of fans and they think they know the game,
and it just be like, nah, bro we was actually
in drop coverage and it looked like this was stunting.

(40:16):
But when you all are on one court and then
that one string is out of place, you know exactly
where it was at. So even when you watch film,
it's just it's so easy to where your accountability goes
higher as a player because your team, you know where
you're supposed to be at. And for a team like that,
especially for the for the Lakers, because even when I

(40:38):
watched the Minnesota game, and I didn't think Minnesota was
going to be the same with the trade, but you
can see the movement and the cohesionness other team and
the obviously it's the first game of seasons and it's
cutting and every everybody got energy.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
But you can.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Tell a team who has chemistry and tell a team
who doesn't like the Knicks. Even when the next got
blown out by Boston. Granted, Boston's a championship team and
they look really good but the chemistry is just people
are just in the right spots at the right times,
on on key and on on point, and it's hard
to gain that. But with the Lakers or the guy

(41:15):
who's played, guy who knows the game, I think I
think JJ is going to be a good situation. The
only part for me, what I will what I will say,
I kind of got pissed at the hiring situation because
he's never coached before and he made Chauncey Phillips, who's
now a Hall of Famer go coach for some years
before he just gave him a head coaching job. Yeah so,

(41:36):
but from that standpoint, but obviously I feel like JJ
know the game, got great basketball pedigree, but it's just
it's I think they. I think they. I think they
could be in the run for the West though, honestly
they could. They could be top three teams in the West,
for sure.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I agree. But they're gonna need a consistent Look. I
already know what I'm gonna get from Braun. I know
what I'm gonna get from a D who's gonna be
out consistent. Third guy either gonna be RUI, either gonna
be AAR, either gonna be d Low.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I'm teaming.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I tend to lean towards Ar because I've seen him
over the course of last year. He was the most
consistent of those of the three. But when you talk
about Ruy, d Low, and and R who you like
who you think is the best third option? I think, honestly,
I think Ruy is the best third option.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
But when you look at for me, when I look
at third option, I don't necessarily look at third options
as necessarily a score. I think a lot of times,
even in our rotations, like double T was easily the
fourth I was the fifth option. Double T was the
fourth option on hitting him on rods, libs and stuff
like that. So for me, and on on top of

(42:42):
that what he brought on the defensive side. So for me,
I think Ruy could be that glue guy like like
an l O was for you know, the past Lakers,
to where he can guard multiple positions, multiple positions. It's
almost like a plus minus game. He's going to happen
to me, he'll had a higher plus minus than the
majority of the du is because when he's out there,

(43:02):
he's covering so much space.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Okay, so you don't look at a guy that necessarily say, okay,
the third option, he needs to be a score probably
the third guy needs to be able to do a
lot of different things.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Score, a rebound, assist. He got to be a Swiss
army knife.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
That's that's that's what I feel like a lot of
the teams are missing because when you necessarily go to
like a quote unquote third option has to be like
a sixth man, like of me, lou Will Jamal Crawford.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Teams playing around that.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
But when you, when you were six eight sixty seven,
can start the offense, can drop make passes, hit an
open shot, get stops, you know, dive on the loose ball,
get a couple of extra possessions out of there, offensive
rebound here or there.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
That changes the game more than anything.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Switch when you when you when you first got to Cleveland,
what was your what were your initial thoughts? Obviously you
knew Lebron, you had played against Lebron before you knew
what he was. Uh so how did you how did
you find a way to fit in immediately? Did he
say hey, hey, I will hit you, you know? Did

(44:12):
you talk about I like to pass here, I like
aball their X, Y and Z. So how did y'all.
How did y'all get that thing together? Because that was
a mid season trade that and you guys took off.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
It was crazy because we got traded. We was Mmphis,
Me and Semp. I remember like something was in the
locker room. This is the first time he was he
got traded, and he was kind of like the struck
and at first like it kind of I'm not gonna
lie to mess me up because Mellow was my dude,
like that's my like, that's my guy. And when the

(44:43):
initial happened, I'm like, damn bro, like like you know,
I higher at you like on like that type of bars.
But then I started thinking about it, and I started
walking out to the arena and I was pissed, like
damn my family was you know, I'm from Jersey. Everybody
with the Knicks. And I started looking at him like
damn we with the Cleveland. I started thinking like Kyrie
broun keV.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Ship were about to win a chip Man.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Look, I swear, I swear to the right hand to
the mail, all five of them are. I was sitting
we were sitting in the hotel lobby right there. It's
like the Hilton right there, right across the street from
the arena, sending the hotel lobby drinking. We had a
private flight to go to Cleveland. The next day, I'm
sitting there with Shump, and Shump's over there like, damn Joe,
he got that Chicago talk.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Damn Joe. They they don't believe it. It's Joe. They
don't believe it.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
And say it Shump. Man, listen, I don't know what
you're talking about. Brother, pipe that ship down. We about
to go in the ship up. He looked at me, like, man,
what you're saying, shorty? I said, Bro, we about to
go win a chip. Just relaxed, just be cool, and
just just let it happen. Man.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
We get there.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
First game we play, uh, we played in Cleveland. The
next game we put we go on the road. We
play like go to State, Sacramento or whatever. And bron
comes back like the third game. The first couple of games,
well him and Kai wasn't back. I wasn't back yet
when we first get there. But like the fourth fifth
game they get back. Were on the road one night,
we are drinking and shit and just grab you by

(46:15):
my shoulder, like, Bro, you was right, we're doing this.
We're doing that. I'm telling you we out of here.
We went for the last place to the first place.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Man, you get your act together, bro, let's go.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
After the unfailing of his own statue, dway, Wade didn't
shy away from suggesting that current stars deserves the hoor next.
D Wade believes next players to be immortalized with statues
Lebron Stephan k D. When you saw d Wade's statue swish, well,
the first thing that went through your mind.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Who signed off? Who signed off for this?

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Like for real, man, because we've been seeing Ronald though,
we've been seeing so many different statues, Like I'm at
this point, I want to know who's signing off on this.
I don't even disrespect the Cove joint, but like Coved
don't even look like cold to me. I'm sitting here
looking at these joints like who's doing these? But I
mean it's it's a tremendous honor. It'd be interesting where

(47:28):
they to see where they put Kd's at.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
But yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
I don't think it looks like well he can't be
anywhere but k but but a golden state of OKC.
I think doing that no as what I'm saying, so
it's got to be Golden State.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yeah, don't say it though, Well, damn way they gonna
put a statue at I.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Don't think he gets one though, to be honest with you,
no disrespecting him because he's a hellifive player, but like
you gotta look like in the same thing that goes
for Mellow, like you look at it like he played
with He's in Golden State four years?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yes, how many years has he been in the league? No,
he's been there three years? He won the championship twice
and then he tore the key leads and he left
three years.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
How many years he's been in the league? This is what,
sixteen seventy eight, eighteen eighteen. How can he get a
statue in three years? They better put a Scottie Pippot
statue out there in Chicago. I know that if they're
gonna do that.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Hey.

Speaker 5 (48:27):
Matter of fact, speaking speaking of Scotty Pippot, I'm glad
you mentioned that. I mean, he's not underrated, but I'm thinking,
you know, when I ask you, who are some underrated
players that you think don't get the credit they deserve
but should actually have a statue based on their contribution.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Brandon Roy for sure, I think, yeah, T Mac and Houston.

Speaker 6 (48:51):
That's a good one. That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
That's Mac gotta have one. Ai or Ai got one? Well,
y'all is gonna have wanted Milwaukee?

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:02):
He for well, if he got one, then they need
to put one for my man Kareem too.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
What Yeah, that's I mean, but Kareem ain't underrated.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Though he not underrated, but but he should have a statue.
Got three MVP win the two finals and one finals MVP.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
I mean he's the most winningest player of all time. Yeah,
I ain't nobody close that. Ain't nobody gonna do what
he did.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Lost two games of high school, one game in college.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
I mean, ain't nobody went it like that?

Speaker 2 (49:29):
No more NBA Finals, sixth MVPs, see chips. Nobody winning
like Kareem. I would like to say a pe statute
in New York.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Honestly, Patrick, you think yeah, okay, yeah, big Pat. Oh,
by the way, if we're gonna say, uh my bad,
it's just totally disrespectful and I'm so sorry. I take
my take my head off. If we're gonna give him
ta one, we got to give a key one. Oh yeah,

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if you gonna get what he's bad in the age too,
my bad, my bad dream that was on me.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Oh timmy d gotta have one?

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Oh yeah, well absolutely who Tim dum dunky? Oh okay,
Tim duncan KG? That's givens. I think Chauncey gets one.
And do you gonna put You're gonna put what you
put in KG in Minnesota? Minnesota, for sure, I don't canser.
I mean he won a championship in Boston. I don't
consider KG a Celtic. Yeah, no, disrespect. I don't consider

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him a Celtic. When I played against the Minnesota Ticket
that that was.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
In two thousand and four, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
I never I've never been intimidated of another man on
the court until I played against him.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Bro. I was just literally like, yo is he always?
Like this is he really?

Speaker 1 (50:59):
And I the teammate lead Nylon man, my man, Lee
is real deal. He was like, man, that's fake man,
he ain't he ain't on none of that. And I
literally like see him get into it and did I
see how Lee did it? I was like, okay, okay,
I see I see what's going on. Okay, I see
you had me though, you had me food. You had

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me food for sure. I was buying the Wolf tickets show.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
But y'all, I mean now you can't fight like they
used to fight in the NBA before you got this
wish back in that y.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
When I was there, they fought man man Rodney Rogers
swung on me a couple of times in practice. Brother
was dodging them, just like a matrix in the game.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
They don't fight practice no more like they used to.
Just wish.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
No no way, no way. They not fighting like no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Bro, with no line.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Like when I came into training camp my rookie year,
I seen like four fights the first week, and I
was just like, it's grown men. I'm eighteen, thirty four,
thirty five, thirty six years old throwing haymakers like real
live throwing them. I'm sitting there like, what the fuck
is going on?

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Damn? What is Yeah, either it was either buy money
or women. No no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
This is this is playing in practice and practice.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
This is list is practice. What damn is that physical? Oh? Yeah,
for sure?

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Especially, I mean I say I say that because I
mean I say and I sound. I sound like when
I'm hating as dudes, but like an old four O
six oh seven, like bro, like this is like back
in the day with like niggas really knocking your shoulder
off like forearm shipping. You walk across that lane like
I played against Oak, Like you run across the lane

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and you just like on some lolly gag and cutting
through you get your teeth knocked out, like oh no, no,
but that for real, those swish oh was like that
for no, he's to this day, not was to this day.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Yeah, I don't, I don't know. Okay. I used to
hang so I know he bought that for real? Right now.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
I was man, okay, I was in the Bahamash right now,
I'm like man chill like like he killed a little bit.
I tried to look like, oh come on now, you
and that boat we just got old. Now look here,
somebody had their weight with us.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Now, I mean they should have got what were back
twenty years ago.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Then we could have held our own three of them.
But not now.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Man ship, I'm taking y'all two and it gets three. Hey, y'all,
he needed was you in the guarden? I'm telling you, y'all,
would have the house. Yeah, I would. I would have
let I wouldn't let him jail.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
My board up like that. Now, come on, now, you say,
ask him to leave, y'all, y'all gotta have like y'all
gotta grab my bad up there like that. You know
you don't like people touching him.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Come on, hell now, and don't walk up behind him,
because if he gonna swing on me, you know, for real,
surprize he didn't swing on him because but he hadn't
been in the guard, he.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Would have no percent, one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Joe Missoula made an appearance on the Boston Radio and
was asked what he would change about the NBA. Missoula
elaborated on why the NBA should institute power plays after
file forcing the offending team to play a man down
for the length of the time as an hockey or.
He also wants to bring back fighting. The biggest thing
that we rob people of, his entertainment standpoint, is that

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you can't fight anymore. I wish we'd bring back fighting.
What's a little entertaining? What's more entertaining than a little scuffle?
How come in baseball they're allowed to clear the benches?
How come in hockey, they're allowed to fight. I don't understand.
I just don't get why some sports are allowed to
clear the benches have basting weapons in the base at baseball,
but we don't have we don't have a ball the
other sport. Hockey is one of the hardest playing surfaces

(54:50):
in the puck and the stick, and you know yet
you're not allowed to throw down.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Throw down a little bit.

Speaker 6 (54:56):
Come on, Joe, I like you don't like it? I
like it?

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Yeah, because he'll coach.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
Make basketball, make basketball great again.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
You know.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
No, I want to see the coaches and you.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
Listen, you think twice before you're coming through the lane
trying to be all pretty.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
No, make it like you know what a switch like
in hockey, Like the goalies go bump. Okay, coaching, y'all
got the bump too.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Let's see. I like that. See if he liked fighting,
really like the pump.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Yeah, Oh for sure, I want to see it.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
I that's my only thing. Man, you're talking about it.
You better be about that action.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Somebody over there getting lumped up and you just start
playing over there, sitting over there.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
That's the thing. One. You can't play the second half.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Until somebody put a patch over Jason Tatum and Jaylen
Brown out and say closed for the weekend.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
And now you're talk about, well you see what happened.
What happened? You say you wanted to see fighting?

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, as long as it's the twelfth or thirteenth, got
getting lumped out.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
What if it's one of your first five? Right?

Speaker 1 (55:56):
What if I put it in one of one of
those headers? Who just that's what it's playing this? Yeah? Yeah,
he can a big perk out there, set one of
the screens. Then you try and run up on it.
What you're gonna do because you know in hockey they
had enforcers. All they do is they're looking for some stuff.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
To pop off and set set the tone.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
You hit, you hit Messy, or you hit Gretzky, or
you hit lemiute, Oh you had to deal with nforcer? Yeah,
so imagine somebody rough house. But see, hold on, I'm
trying to think out you got somebody because somebody cheat
you shot of Lebron and you.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Who you catch with? I mean you got it good too.
I been crowded Jay.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yeah, you got suspended though for that though, Yeah, I
got I got suspended for a few of them. I
don't like that ship, like for real, like especially if
you roll. That's what that's probably my my biggest fault.
Like I'm I'm I'm gifted. I'm like I'm to the
funk because like, regardless, if you would do it for me,
I just do.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
That's just the way I move.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
If I'm with you and some ship go down, I'm
rying with you all the way.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
You cheap shot my man. I'm not going cheap shot you.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
I'm gonna get you while you're looking, and then if
you want to do something after that, then we can
do that too. But all that you're not about, you're
not getting over on nobody.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
I'm with.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
I'm not with that. I'm c Jr's I'm the same way.
Oh you cheap shot my quarterback or I see hey
man such as such.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
Who Yeah, we're gonna get We might not get him now,
but we're gonna get him later.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
We're gonna get him, and I'm gonna make it look
like a play.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Hey come on, hey, no, no, no, no, no, you ain't
have no problem. Cheap shot my guy. Now you got
a problem.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
M No, you're not.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
You're nothing to get my guy and then think you're
gonna walk your ass up out of here, just free.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Oh no, I.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Want to make it blatant. I want to make it
disrespectful because it is like I don't want you to
jump back, because that's what it's on you to get
some money.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Yeah, I mean, I feel I lost a lot of bread.
I ain't gonna lie. I gotta make it look like
I gotta make it look like what you come. I
gotta make it look like a plate. You're gonna lost
a lot of bread. Get suspended on these dudes, man,
Jason Terry Jay. I got a couple of them, but
it was worth it was a few of them was
worth it, though, I ain't gonna lie like again, if

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you're playing dirty, then that's the type of game you played,
then that's what you're gonna get.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Gg Jackson say players around the league have told him
to stop meet riding after he claimed victim Women Yama
would end up as the goat. I'm looking ten twelve
years from now, when he's got an extra thirty pounds
and a nice go team with a muffstang, I think
women will be the goat.

Speaker 5 (58:52):
What extra thirty pounds? He can't put those thirty pounds
in that frame.

Speaker 6 (58:57):
I mean, I think, I think he's gonna be good.
He's gonna be very very good at what he does.
I mean, but he's not gonna be Lebron. He's not
gonna be Michael Jordan.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
You know, He's gonna be up there, you know, in
the top tier, but not the elite of the elite.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
What you thinks, wish you like what you see?

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I mean a seven foot four guy, seven four and
a half half a tall the years, I mean, he's
way he's towering over Rudy Go Bart and they say
Rudy go where Bear is seven to one. So he's
at least seven three and a half seven four, I
almost say seven four. He mad, he might be seventy five.
But we've never seen a guy his height be this athletic.
Normally they're cumbersome guys. We see the New Bowl, we

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see Morrison, we see Bradley, you know, but normally guys
that height, they can't move like him.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Yeah, we see what's the guy.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Uh uh bo.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Bo Bo boll can move pretty good. What's the other guy?
Uh Boban? We see Boban. We see how how how
cumbersome he moves. But Wemby is fluid for a man
his size. He's athletic, he's ranging and go up and
down the court. Now MI new ball can shoot three.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
But his ability to put the ball on the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
We've never seen a man that size be able to
put the ball on the floor and be able to
do what he can do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Yeah, Like, I'm I like watching him play. Honestly, I'm
happy he got it. He actually got a point guard
like CP to actually teach him, you know, how to
be in certain areas, in certain positions at the right time.
Because he has a game to where it's very easily
he could I think, especially in today's game, thirty five

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to thirty eight a game is very obtainable for him hold.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
On average thirty five to thirty eight points.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Yeah, yeah, he's He's very I mean he has the fluidity.
He has the fluidity offensively so to even in double teams,
like he could literally shoot over Rudy Gilbert, which is
one of the tallest players in the league and other
dude coming over to double. If he can get his

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game to be somewhere to be as efficient as a
KD smaller level, let's say, check he could be. He
could be very very dangerous, very dangerous. And he's hunt
and he's like he has a demeanor almost like a
Yannis where he wants it. He wants you can see

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he wants to get better. He consistently you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
I agree. I mean, I like the young man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
He'll block shot And I think the thing is the
biggest thing for if you're a shop blocker, you can't
be afraid to get dunked on. Because if you're afraid
to get dunked on, you can't be a great shot
blocker because this gonna happen. I don't care. All the
great shop blockers. You look at all the great shop
blockers from Will Russell, Keen, artist Gilmore, Marvin Webster, you
look at any great shot blocker.

Speaker 6 (01:01:53):
Everybody got pop.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Heybody got it? Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Chi used to tell me, he say, Man, they may
get me, but I bet you I can get them
more than they give me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Absolutely, It's just like a DV. Somebody gonna get you,
get a touchdown on you, somebody even sometimes even a
routine guy. It's gonna make an acrobatic catch. You're like,
hold on, bro, I just saw you shut down Megatron
how you let this dude get one on you. Oh
they get you. Oh they gonna catch you. The kim
resting soul, the ken bait. Think about how many times

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you don't see the kimbay on somebody highlight reel.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
He caught you with elbow split ship. I was in
stitches they gave I went to back there. I don't
like needles.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
They gave me a needle about this long and my
eye dog like right under my eye socket.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Man, I thought I was about to die. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Them sharp has elbows. The Kimba had them sharp elbows.
Lebron said. He broke lebron nose.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
He He caught a lot of people though, Yeah, straight up.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
And I don't want you to think it wasn't intentionally either.
I love God. Resais sours my band. He tell you like, no, no,
you get in my wood. I get it. Your bread
was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
The volume