Nightcap - Hour 1: Mavs lied about Luka, KD says cancel ASG, Ant not face of NBA

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to The Athletic dropping an article today about the Mavs wanting Luka to use injury time off to improve conditioning. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Phoenix Suns Kevin Durant suggesting to “cancel All-Star weekend” and give the players a break during that time, Minnesota Timberwolves Anthony Edwards doesn’t consider himself a top contender for being the face of the NBA and much more!

05:30 - Show start
05:46 - Intro
07:10 - Mavericks wanted Luka to Use Injury Time for Conditioning
26:10 - Wemby’s upcoming pay day
29:00 - Kevin Durant on All-Star Break
36:00 - Oscar Robertson on Draymond Green
40:45 - Anthony Edwards on being the face of the league
56:00 - Caitlin Clark’s getting paid her worth
1:05:35 - Trevor Lawerence doesn’t want to go to the Steelers

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they're gone. Oh choll, let's get right into it. The
Athletic dropped an article today about the math The Maths
wanted Luca to use the injury time off to improve conditioning.
According to the article, in November, Luca missed five games
with what the Mavericks announced was a right a right
wrist brain That injury was classification was not entirely true

(05:57):
being reported. In reality, Luca was supposed to use the
time off to improve his conditioning. Team sources said it
was the one of the straws that broke the proverbial
camel's back.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Wait a minute, because he decided not to use the
time off for conditioning.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
That was the straw that broke the camel's back. That's
what really reported. This will be Luca's first season playing
fewer than sixty games. Now here's the kicker where everybody's like, well,
hold on, wait a minute. On the other side, Ad
is six years older and has failed to compete in
sixty games four of the last six seasons.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Right, Well, something ain't making no sense. Huh. Something is?
Something is not making any sense because you traded for somebody.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
You trade you're better player that's played over sixty games
for most of his career outside of correct and you're
bringing somebody that hasn't played in over sixty games four
to five of the last season. So something may make this.
That's why I think, and I still think today. Whatever
the true reason is is that they traded Luca and

(07:02):
hasn't been said yet.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I believe two things can be true.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I believe they had grown frustration with trying to tell
Luke about his conditioning. I also believe they didn't want
to pay him four hundred and fifty fifty million dollars.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Hey, Hey, even though I just started watching basketball. When
you name the top three players in the NBA right now,
is Luca one of one.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Of the three when he's at his best. Yes, I
don't need to hear no more. But let me ask
you a question. Let's let's just say, for the sake
of argument. Let me ask you a question. Let's just say,
for the sake of argument, coach Belichick, he resigns. Tom

(07:47):
Brady is in year year five. He's already won three
Super Bowls, but he resigned. Uh Andy reason after the
last ye say yeah, I'm good. You don't think People
go like, well, hold on, why you still got a
guy that is pride? What's really going on? And I

(08:08):
think the thing for me, my attention, I got like,
hold on, you mean to Rick? Tell me Rick Carlyle
has a guy that's twenty three years of age and
he don't want to contract extension.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
He'd rather go coach Indiana. I don't know about that.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Don't make no sense, even for Rick Carlyle, because even
if you do go to Indiana, even if you do
go to Indiana, you still don't have a player like
what you got over here in Dallas, a special So
as a coach, as a coach, you notice, whether it
be football. For Andy Reid, he had don Donovan mcnahb.
He never had we never had a Patrick Mahomeso. Players

(08:48):
like this come around every so often, especially one is
special as Luca. You don't leave and go somewhere else
because of problems with conditioning, things that can actually be fixed,
especially when the product itself, when it touches the court,
it gives you that kind of got dam production.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
But they don't. But see you said it can be fixed.
They were wanting him to fix it and he wasn't
fixing it. And ask question, that's the thing, O, Joe.
What happens if the team, If the team says, oh, Joe,
we want you to be here on camp, we want
you a at some point in time that they gonna
get tired of telling you. Now, if we let's just
fast forward right quick to Aaron Rodgers. What did Aaron

(09:27):
Rodgers say this year? He said at the beginning of season,
if we don't get this thing right, we're all going
to be out of here. Joe Douglas is gone, Robert
Salad is gone. They thank your hacket is gone. Aaron
Rodgers is gone. They're looking at it like, hold on,
if we don't get this thing right with Luca, we
all gonna be a body.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Question. Yes, when it comes to the game of basketball,
you know, yes, When when it comes to the any sport,
it's all about what superstars superstars, and they have to
do what consistently, our update your resume.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
You have to perform. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, at any point in Lucas's career, have this number decrease?

Speaker 1 (10:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
What we arguing? What what? What? What? What are we
talking about?

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Coo too fat, too slow? The number the same, and
he's been consistent.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I get that. But everybody, see, everybody keep saying do this,
do this.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
That's easy to say when it's not your four hundred
and fifty million.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
See, it's easy to say.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I would do this. It's not your money.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
People leave a restaurant and don't go back when they
don't get good service on a sixty dollars time. What
you're gonna do when you got four hundred million and
that money is full of garantation Because a lot of times,
if you could have banned me, oh Joe, they'll say,
you know what, mister, mister Johnson, we're gonna take this off.
This was on us when you signed a four hundred
million dollar contract. Players ain't giving you as ish back.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
But the one thing players are. Players are played based
on performance on the hardwood. On the hardwood, his performance
has always been the heat. It's always I've always been
top of the list in almost every statistical category. So
you're not gonna, Okay, you can say it because they

(11:22):
actually did it. You're not gonna tell me me. That's
why I'm not in GM. That's why I'm not in
that position. That's not why I'm sitting in that seat
in the high seat making making judgment calls on who
I should keep and who I should play, because the
ain't no way in hell I'm trade Luca and nothing.
When it comes to producing on the court, he's going wrong,
whether he's fat, whether he's skinny, whether he's out of shape,

(11:43):
because like, if you're doing what you're doing while you're
out of shape, imagine if I can get the right
people with you or convince you to get in shape.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Man, he had the right people.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
That you do realize that when they hire a superstar,
when you get a superstar, they bring your people on.
They let you bring your people on, right. Oh, so
you do realize that it ain't like football.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Tom Brady had a very circumstance where he got had
this guy right there with him.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
But most football teams don't do that. NBA teams allow
you to do that.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
You know what, I can't say, Mike macill Mike macill's
travel with Lebron. He always has. Randy Mimes travel with Lebron,
always has. So you said the right people, Kelly got
the people that he wanted to know.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
He's in the right place now, he is in the
right place.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Well, I hope, I hope he looks at and puts
something Lebron like, we know this man player, like.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
This is your twin Johnny.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Ain't. Ain't gonna let him take no shortcuts.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Not over there, absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Not only are you able to watch, but you're able
to see someone that's done it for twenty something odd
years at the highest level and is actually the NBA's
all time leading scorer. Lucas looking at that, Lebron is
talking to him, you know they gonna have that talk.
I know he had that talk before because all the
rumblings through the media. I love I would love that conversation.

(13:01):
I would love insight on how you've been able to
do it this goddamn long. How about I do you
know what, how about I change him my routine? How
about I tighten up on a discipline and mostructure the
way I do things and my approach to the game. Well,
if I'm already great, and I'm somewhat lazy in the
sense in my approach to preparing for the game, and
I'm playing extremely well.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
What happens if I tighten up the mother almost curse?

Speaker 4 (13:26):
What happened if I tighten up the bolts and approach
the game of basketball the way Lebron does.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
And know telling him what I can can achieve. And
I'm already great right now.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
But everybody doesn't have that mindset. Oh Jo, I think
Lebron came in. I think he had a couple of goals.
He wanted to be considered the best player to ever
play the game. He wanted to play as long as
he possibly could, so he took the steps very early on.
If you hear people talk about when Lebron was in
high school, you hear people.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Talk about Lebron when he first got there.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
How everything is so routine, it's so regimented, from his
rest time to his now to his scratching getting to
the arena, so many guy hours early, getting his work,
getting his left in, getting.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
His shots up, everything for twenty two years.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Structure, structure, structure, Also discipline.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Discipline. Discipline is another one. Everybody doesn't want that, just
another one. Lebron didn't have a goddamn choice, understand, coming
out of high school.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
The authors stacked against him. All the pressure was on.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Him, the expectations were off the roof, so he had
no choice but the pros the game of basketball being
the chosen one coming out of high school.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Hell, ten, Grady, I think.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
You said it yourself. Ten great, he could have came
and play in the NBA right then and now.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
I think I think a situation on trouble. You look
at Luca Luke had been a professional since he was sixteen.
He had a lot of He had a lot of
expectations placed on him.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
People thought he was gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I didn't think he was gonna be this good because
everybody said, no, he could play.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I was like, bro, he played, he played it. He said.
When he said it's easier to score in the NBA
than it.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Is in Europe, I say, this kid out of his
damn mind, and lo and behold, he ain't making me
out to be allied. He never averaged a point amount
of points he's averaged over Europe as he's doing here.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
He neverage twenty nine points a game in his career.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
He's averaged had the second highest playoffs scoring average behind Jordan.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I think you think it.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Over in Europe where he was playing, I can't. I
can't remember where. I don't remember exactly where. Do you
think they played better defense? You think that's what it is?
Are the are the dimensions of the court a little smaller?
There has to be some type of difference.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I think the thing is Ojoe is that the game
is not as free flowing as it is here. Every time,
I mean, you run plays, they don't let you do
a whole lot of ice over there. So you know,
it's kind of like coach Smith, Dean Smith or coach
Smith when he's at North Carolina. The only guy that
can keep Michael Jordan on the twenty points a game
with Coach Smith because of his offense didn't allied and
to get look at you, nobody saw Michael being able

(16:03):
to do what he did in the NBA do based
on what he did in college. Same thing with Anthony Davis.
Anthon Davis was a defensive player at Kentucky. I didn't
see that. I didn't see this kind of offense from him. Now,
he was a sensational defensive player. I'm surprised he doesn't
have a defensive Player of the Year already, considering the
way he can slide, the way he can challenge at

(16:24):
multiple position, guard, multip position, tremendous in the picket roll,
weak side help, I'm surprised he doesn't have one already.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
But it's his offense that's been most suppressive.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
He went to Major mainly a putback dunk law player,
so now he has a mid range.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Now he can take it all the way out to three. Luca.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
You look at that, Luke, You're like, well, yeah, he
getting some points. He getting eighteen nineteen boys a game.
But look at it he played against. Will he come
up here and play against Ron Min? He every thirty
four game?

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Hey, when I watched Luga play all this, damn moves
look like it's in slow motion?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Or am I tripping? Not only do the moves look
like it's a slow motion.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
They work every guy damn time. Yeah, he didn't have
quick twitch fibers like a Kyrie Nope, or I'm trying
to think or who else is really explosive?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Russell Westbrook obvious season, he's a bigger.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Man John Moran, No, he don't have that explosive like
that look like that.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
And the moves that he does have they work every time.
And I swear maybe it's because I'm watching from TV.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
It looks like it's a slow motion. Yeah, yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
And that's why you can't tie him up because while
you don't jump, he ain't left the ground yet.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
And when you're on your way out, who you on
your way down? On his way up?

Speaker 1 (17:43):
So now he gonna get an A and one or
you're gonna get your violent So he could.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
He plays his pace.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
He's not going to allow you to speed him up
and make him play at your pace. He's really good.
He can get off any shot. He's a lot bigger
than you think. He has a lot bigger body than
you think, and it's stronger than you think. Because you're
looking at him and you're like, I don't see not
one definition. The only definition I see is that if
you got a dictionary in your hand, definition is been there.

(18:10):
That's the only definition I see. But it's the same
thing with Yok. When you look at yo kicks, you
don't see no definition. But he give me a thirty
twenty two or eighteen. And why every time I watch Yoke,
Every time I watched him and play. Why he always
looked tired the whole game. It looks like he's breathing
heart the whole game. But every time it's going in movie,

(18:32):
it's working.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
But look, I think the thing is that's a lot.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I mean, look, we're gonna see when I'm trying to
think the next guy that's available, that's really good, that
can get this kind of money.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
It might be Ant made.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
You said, you said Shade shit, but Shade.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Can't get a super Max like this because he got traded,
remember right, that's right. See a man got ant Man
has been with drafted to Timberwolves and man on Wimby.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Oh let me winmy definitely finna get it. He definitely
FINNI ye, Man, it ain't no reason he should get
it too. I know the wars ain't gonna pull no
no slick stuff over there. They ain't got no choice
but to give it to him. Yeah, so that's gonna
be very interesting.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
So uh yeah, four hundred and fifty million for five years.
And so guess what if you pay it back. Guess
what he gone back to the table in five years,
don't you Now you got to pay him five hundred million.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Now, so man has a possibility to get five year,
four hundred and fifty million.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yes, yes, oh boy, what maybe man man please, yep,
he does. He has that opportunity. He'll win.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Bey, those are the guys that can get that Supermax. Hey,
do you understand you not? You didn't hear what I
just said. You're not listening to me. I don't I
don't understand.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Maybe the people in the chat can't hear me five years,
four hundred and fifty million. That cannot even talk about
Anita's contracts, other contracts, other endorsements that you get on
the side.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Damn, stop playing man and go hit the table again.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yes, and man is twenty three. Hey, hey, I don't know,
I speak. I still might got it.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
No, so I think, Look he's Lucas and I'm sure
he I mean, it caught him by surprise because obviously
there's a lot of pride in situations like that, because
a lot of time, when you get to that level,
you think you're untradeable. Oh you're untouchable, and so boom
and like he didn't know. He didn't know because you

(20:45):
know how he didn't know how nobody knew. It didn't
get out Two people knew obviously know four people knew,
because obviously Rob got to ask to go run this
by Genie and and Nico Harrison got to go run
it by.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I would do both. So four people knew, four people
not there not that.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
And you hear New Kase say hey, right before it happened,
we told people cause you know it's gonna get a
trade is big on Joe. If the normal coach, if
the normal agents and the players know it is getting
is getting out.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
This two big the fact that Niko and Rob were
able to keep it just between themselves and really not
let anybody else know, because if they did let anybody
else know, when they got out, they know exactly where
it came from.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Exactly three fifty my bad, I said, four fifty three
fifty three fifty five years, three fifty.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
So about seventy million.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
So by the time what you call them come by
the time what you call them come out, and man,
it probably be about three fifty five three sixty it
don't listen three.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Fifty oh, because here's the thing on Yoe.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Next year that new CB ain't going to it exist
US eleven years seventy six, eleven year seventy seven billion.
So by the time win become it might it might
be five years, four hundred million, because this is only
Winby's second year, and they normally do to what three year,
four year?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Hey, and Winby's only what twenty I think Womeny's twenty. Hey,
that's someth That's something we're gonna get there.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Now, you hear, men, come to me, Hung if you can, Hung,
you can hear. We gonna see that. We're gonna see
that kind of money too. And I'm gonna i'ma I'm
gonna tell you how. I'm not even gonna tell you
how we're gonna see it, but we gonna see that
kind of money year me. We on the we on
the right path. We're on the right direction. Now we
might man, but we're gonna see a hundred men, we
might see two hundred. And I'm gonna tell you how

(22:40):
because I had a dream. I'm not talking I'm not
talking about like Martin Luther King. I had a dream.
I saw the vision. I've already seen it, so I
understand what's going to happen later on in the future.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Well, I appreciate that. I see it too. When I
read forms and I see all those billion dollars. I say, yep, okay,
Wimbi Yama becomes a super Max eligible player, meaning his
rookie extension based salary will be thirty percent of the

(23:14):
salary cap instead of twenty five. When he enters his
eighth year, he will be thirty five percent Max eligible
as opposed to the traditional thirty percent. So whatever the
cap is, he's entitled to thirty five percent of that. Damn.
So he's available for twenty thirty percent of it of

(23:34):
his rookie extension. Hey, hey, that's what. So he's gonna
be worth thirty five percent of that? No, he's worth
thirty percent of.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Hey, listen, he worth every penny? Hey, well, can be
is everything advertised? Every yeah, man, every bit of it.
So whatever penny he gets, he's earning every bit of it.
Watching ad Man player, every penny he's gonna get, he's
worth every bit.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, Weenby is definitely going to be the first four
hundred million dollar player.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
And speaking of remember, I told you I was gonna
start investing in going to the basketball game, so I
can I can be better suited.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Jason Tatum about to hit that. He just think about it.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Looking what you Jason Tatum just got he just got
three what three twenty?

Speaker 2 (24:20):
He's twenty six.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
But that's what But what what about those next four years?
It's four fifty five, he'll be thirty one, So thirty
So what's his next contract gonna be? His next contract
might be, Hey, he might hit that four hundred. He
just got three twenty. It's hard to see a scenario.

(24:50):
He's gonna be thirty one, Oh Joe, for him not
to get another Superman.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
That's nasty. But that's nasty work. Then brin that that
nasty work. It's it's it's good. It's great money if.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
You can get it, absolutely, but you got you got
to understand you. You want you. You wanted the best
in the world. You wanted a one percenters now and
you know that's what I meant to tell you right
before we go home.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I just I just got court side tickets.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
The tim Awolves played the Heat March seventh, Yeah, March
seventh or March six, something like that, whatever it was.
I'm sitting right next to the bench where I'm sitting
right next to Bam right, I'm I'm a church at
Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
The whole game, the whole game me do.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
And I want to make sure I'm better suited to
talk about basketball, so I could sound like Tim Legger,
so I could sound like Doris Burke or George so Donald.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
And when I come on here and you and you
wonder what the hell happened to me?

Speaker 4 (25:46):
And why I'm talking about the game the way I
am as if I played it all my life.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
You know why? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Okay, oh Joe, So you know the discourse about the
NBA wouldn't be complete what I kd chiming in kad.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
This is what he tweeted.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
I think it's more fun to complain about the NBA
that actually watch it. Crazy, cancel All Star weekend. Let's
just give everybody breaks since we're so miserable around this time,
Oh Joe, what you got?

Speaker 4 (26:15):
I understand Katie's frustrations. I wouldn't even call it frustration.
I think he's more so listen, it's All Star break.
We ain't trying to hurt ourselves. We've tried to create
different formats to appease you as fans, to appease the viewers,
and it's not working. You know what, how about we
just cancel all this because no matter what we do,
we can't make y'all happy. We failed at it, Adam

(26:36):
Silver Hit has failed. The players have failed. We don't
want to play because I think, for one, as much
as the players make in anything that you do, whether
it be in the corporate world, whether it be in sports,
anytime money's involved and it's incentivized, it makes you want
to do whatever it is a little bit harder, even
though they make so much. That's why that was my
suggestion yesterday. Have some type of format where it's incentivized,

(26:59):
where they can make a huge chunk of change, even
though they made millions during the regular season, because outside
of that, they already have a few money. So trying
to get him to play at the All Star Game
ain't gonna happen. That's why they're shooting one hundred threes
and throwing two hundred alleys. That's what you're gonna get.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
He obviously, Kad was being sarcastic.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
He's tired of hearing the criticism about the All Star
Game and the All Star Game format and and about
not playing hard and things of that nature. Kad is
one of the ones. He hear what people saying and
it's his product and he's proud of the type of
game that he plays, but everybody is not proud of
the type of performance that a lot of the guys

(27:43):
give at the All Star Game, and and you know,
big voice their displeasure. It had been interesting. I would
have loved to have seen had Twitter been around in
the nineties, early two thousands, what would.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Have been said.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
I think now, because you have social media show and
we don't have to wait, we don't have to just
get our information because we can go on lie if
we got a problem with something, how could I if
I didn't like something, how could I say it?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
O Joe?

Speaker 1 (28:11):
I couldn't say about at the Bomber Show. Now I
can get on line. I give the playoffs. I give
them playoff profile his timeline. Man, you talk from trash
and honestly, honestly, I think it's a great thing. I
think it's a great thing. I think it's a great
thing for fans.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
It gives everybody a voice, gives it everybody reason whether
whether right or wrong, whether right or wrong. And for
those for players, especially athletes, elite athletes like a KD.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Lebron as well, sometimes they engage back.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
I think for people that are fans of certain players
are just fans of whatever sports you played. Just knowing
that you can even if they don't respond, knowing that
you can act someone that you like or dislike and
send message whether they see it or not. I think
that's one of the greatest feelings in the world. I
think it is. I really think it is.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I mean, obviously, no, I'm saying I agree with you.
You know some guys, some guys don't pay any attention.
Kadi is one of those guys that he's gonna respond
if he thinks you've been a dis I mean, he
don't respond to all things, but he responds to enough
of him. He's one of the guys that probably respond

(29:24):
more than anybody like that, maybe any professional athlete that
I that I know, and.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Not just not just any athlete. We talk about one
of the best to ever play the game. You got
one of the best to ever play the game. That's
great right now that takes his time out to engage
with people, whether it's negative or positive. That's a good thing.
That's a great thing, and I wish more players would
like that. Most of them that have accounts, they have
other people running their account. You know, all they do

(29:51):
is post, you know, stuff that is promoting things that
they are doing, you those sponsors and endorsements and stuff
like that or whatever, clothing, hair, you know, whatever it
may be. But people like Katie and Lebron at times
he actually the churked back and forth.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Lebron don't really do.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I mean, it's got to be something really, really egregious
for Lebron to respond. He normally just like he's heard
so much of it. I mean, he's almost damnar to sensitized.
I mean, that's why people were really surprised that when
he responded to Chuck, because he's like he's been dealing
with it from day one. Nobody has been talked about

(30:28):
as much, nobody's been as criticized as much. He understands
now that comes along with the territory. Uh, there haven't
been a guy that's been more polarizing the gamut of emotions.
I like it, I dislike it, I love him, I
hate it. No player, Hey, in modern sports, you probably

(30:48):
have to go no.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
In between two. It ain't nothing, ain't no on the fence.
It's one side of the other. Lebron responded to something.
I guess what's the guy name? He won who finally
won two games with the guy there? Yeah, listen, brob

(31:09):
brob Wade. Why did did Doug say something about him
in the past, Because that's the only reason why he
would do something.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Always, always, always, always, So here's so that's but see
a lot of a lot of times you gotta be
smart enough, and a lot of these players are smart enough.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Why am I going to lend my audience your ear? So?
Oh he went hard on Brownie? Okay, Okay, I knew
it had to be. Oh, but here's the thing. How many?
How many? How many? Look, there are a lot of people.

(31:47):
Go back and look at the jobs.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I think eighty percent of the jobs are feeled that
never advertised. Hey man, he they hired her in my job.
You got to put in an application. They didn't list
the job, but somebody told you they were hired, but
you got in. Or you got somebody that works there
that knows somebody and my buddy looking for a job.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Oh timer, come on in.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
I love it, love to sit down and talk to it.
But now it's cool when they do it. It's a
problem when we do it.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
So, now, when you just told me that they saying
he was talking about Brony. Now it makes sense for
the context and wh Lebron tweeted.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
So let me ask you a question. How many of
these coaches sons just get put on the staff? Oh?

Speaker 2 (32:27):
All of that a problem happens all the time.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Huh, it happens all the time. All yeah, not a
people not a sound about it, not a people out
of sound. Now, obviously Lebron being in a special position
that he that he's in, and if anybody else will
reported the opportunity to be one of the best to
ever play the game and have an opportunity to get
his son to play alongside him. You think I wouldn't

(32:50):
do that?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Of course, stop man, stopped playing? Please?

Speaker 1 (32:55):
You try to put your kids in the best situation
was possible. Always, that's what you strive for.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Speaking of critiquing the NBA, Oscar Robinson has some issh
to say about Draymond saying the NBA is born. Let's
take and listen to what the big ol'd had to say.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
Well, a lot of Draymond says so much. You know,
who cares what Draymond says? He doesn't mean anything, you know,
you know, people.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
This is what I mean?

Speaker 6 (33:18):
You know, I mean, if one guy can say this
and one guy can say that the game is the
game is what it is. People either like the game
of the doubt, and I think people enjoy the game,
especially if the team can win. And if you look
at the basketball, it might be boring him because if
he's not past the ball to carrier, what is he.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Doing are great?

Speaker 6 (33:38):
I'll not to single that out because I think he
knows how to play basketball, but he's passed his ball
to carry more than anyone I've ever seen in basketball,
and so mean and I so, you know, it might
be boring to him at times because what he's doing,
maybe it is born. When he's out there, he's not
getting you're not shooting, he's not shooting a lot, he's
not guarding a lot.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
So it's boring. Man, the big old, big old Ye listen,
he gonna tell it like it is. Huh.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
That's one that's oh yeah, he's oh gz, you know
the old the older folks gonna do, especially when you
criticize the game of basketball today, they're gonna they gonna
find every everything, every critique wrong with your game, why
you're playing right now, and why you find it boring
based on what you say now, is it right? Yes,

(34:23):
in some sense, and he could also be wrong. So
especially him, agree to disagree because that Draymond feels exactly
how it feels for a reason.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
But if you know anything about the Big Old this
is who he is. He's always he's always spoken up.
He's always said exactly what was on his mind. Now,
a lot of guys like, hey, you know, hey, blah
blah blah, But that's not how he is. He's gonna
get right to the point and says, okay, well, let
me tell you why it's boring. Because you don't get

(34:56):
to shoot, you passing the ball. You sit and screamed.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
That ain't no.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
I mean even listen that that's that's the player he is.
That's not what he does. Obviously, shooting is not his game.
You know, setting screens, passing, being an enforcer, that's what
Draymond does.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, that's what he does.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
So obviously that part of his game it has to
be enjoyable, just when it comes to certain certain aspects
of it, especially now at All Star Game, it's boring.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Well when you look at it, I look at it
like this, what am I good at If I'm doing
what I'm good at I'm happy if I IF I
if I'm a score, but I'm not scoring, it ain't
no fun. Draymond is a defensive player. Pat ball defensive players.
You look at defensive guys that are limited or challenged offensively,

(35:44):
they get excitement or the defendant an offensive player gets
get gets satisfaction out of scoring. Well, if I'm not scoring,
what's my use again? Because everybody can't play both sides
of the ball.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
That's a fair.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
There are very very, very very few players that at
an elite level could both put the ball in the
basket and limit somebody on the all the end. You're
talking about an Elijah Wand you're talking about a Jordan.
You're talking about Tobe, You talking about Tim Duncan you
talk about David Robinson? You talk about Lebron when he
was in his prime. There are very few guys that

(36:20):
could give you thirty on one end. And if a
guy's averaging thirty, hold him money that They ain't a
whole lot of guys like that, O Joe, most guys right,
You're right, because that's how you make your money. Now
with Joe putting the ball in the basket.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
And if if you have no office of prowess or
office of skill set on the defense end.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
You got to be elite. You got the d And
I think when it comes to Draymond and.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
His role with the Warriors, obviously being an enforcer, but
what he's been able to do for them, he's very
valuable in the way.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
That he does some everything. I mean, he's a jack
of all trades. He doesn't master anything limited scoring. Ok
Reebinder can run the offense. A lot of times they
run the offense through him. He does a great job
of sitting picks and he'll fake it like he's gonna
pass it, and he'll drive to the whole. He's carved

(37:16):
out a nice niche and he's probably gonna end up
in the Hall of Fame with four championships, a Defensive
Player of the Year, two gold medals, He's probably gonna
be in.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
In in uh in Springfield. Just it's just the reality
of it. O Chuck, I like it. I like it.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
And one thing by Dre, you know he's gonna fire
back man, Hey, he gonna fire respect the.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Bigger Nah, he probably gonna say he I mean the
really really like the old guys like that. They let
them fly. Now, maybe if Chuck had said something, he
might have came back to Chuck. Anthony Edwards would ask
if he considers himself to be a top candidate, candidate
to be the face of the league going forward. This
is what he said. He said, not really, that's what
they got win before. O Joe, do you have a

(37:57):
problem with what ant Man see?

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Because I can see ant Man is one that doesn't
really want or need to be the face of the
league at Man and one of them just want to
play basketball at Man. They kind of dude in high school,
he got his book bag on and he got his
got damn basketball shoes tied to his book bag. He
had the bus stop with his basketball shoes tied his
book bag. After school, he on the park shooting everybody

(38:20):
else going home. That's the type of dude. A man
is all I want to do is play basketball. I
don't want to pressure and what comes with being the
face of the league. I want to have my fun.
I'm going to go out here and school. I want
to dunk on people and want to talk my trash
in the media. Now, a face of the league is
a wimby, doesn't really have the personality to do so, though,

(38:44):
And man.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Does I think they want they want to face the
league to be a little bit more.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Butter Man, that's boring. Okay, Jordan was boring. Kobe lebron boy,
Keeth Curry's boy, Jordan was born. I'm just telling you.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
You said it. You said, you saying being buttoned up
is boring. I said Jordan was blown up. You said
he's boring.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Jodan wasn't buttoned up on on the court, he did.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
You see the way Jeordan.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Let me ask you a question, how many times do
you see Jordan give an interview without Okay.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
That's different.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Now off the court, he was straight bitten.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Oh, Joe, that's what I'm talking about. Your game.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
You can't even be the face of the NBA if
your game doesn't speak on the court. We're talking about
off the court. And see, I caught a lot of
flat what I said. They kind of want the guy
to be a little bit more. Second, Jordan married Kobe,
I'm married, Braun married, Steph married.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Oh oh oh. But just go correct.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
You're correct, you're correct, you are correct, you are correct,
you are correct in that sense. But for me, you
know I am you know I'm I like the entertainment value.
I like the exciting side. I like the person and
the people that are gonna put butts in the sea.
I like the John Moran be in the face of
the league. They would never let that happen. I like
Anthony Edwards be in the face of the league. They

(40:10):
would never let that happen. You you get what I'm saying.
I like it.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
I like the Alan Iison of the world to be
the face of the league. But it would never happen.
He would he buy it on five T shirts. But
I'm just saying I'm thinking about and think about, think
about my way of playing the game of football. I
could never be the face of anything ever because of

(40:37):
the way my style in which I played got on
the field.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
I was the exact same way off the field. Hell
I'm still the same way now.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
So I stay in my lane and I do what
works for me because I do it extremely well.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
You look at the quarterback, but there's one quarterback that
that is refused to change.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
And if your Maine is authentic self, he died there
in Baltimore. He was he from Pompino. Ain't changed one bit, right,
Who's the face of the league right now? Mahome, Yeah, okay,
and before and before he and before he left who
that twelve? See, it's all about an image, whether you

(41:25):
lived that life or not. What do people because here's
the thing. You remember Tiger. Tiger was the face of golf.
He got married, he had a family, he was wholesome.
It was the all American dream. Why did people get
upset because that's not really who he was.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
I'm so glad you just said that because I was
just getting ready to go there.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
When we talk about Peyton Manning, when we talk about
Tom Brady, and I talked to Tom when I was
in New England after seeing him interacting and see how
he is when the cameras aren't rolling, and I asked him,
are you truly happy not being able to be exactly
who you authentically are? How are you how you have

(42:06):
to mask us for all these years? This same't even
Peyton Manning. I've seen paid the real Payton Manning at
the Pro Bowl to an interviews.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
But the thing is, O Joe, is that they've done
it for so long because your quarterback is like when
you're one of those guys, they've been quarterback all their
life and so they get to understand you've got to
be positive in all situations. When you when somebody plays bad,
you take the blade. I need to do better of
putting my guys in a position to make plays. They say,

(42:44):
they get so and so it's it's like you said,
it is robotic, it's methodical. You're like, man, why we
I understand why we got to interview the quarterback?

Speaker 4 (42:53):
But he ain't gonna never get in them never ever?
So what are we doing with a team over there
in Kansas City the same way? It's like they went
to training. It's like they went to training for this.
Give me something different. Matter of fact, we just we
just talked about this the other night. I mean you
you got on me. You got on me about people
telling the truth. Remember, yeah, they just can't.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
And I don't like that. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
I mean, it's just the way it's the nature of
the business, is the way it will always be.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
And look at the quarterbacks. What did that? What did
that get married? Jalen Hurst? What is he getting married?
Josh Allen? What is he getting married?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Oh? You think it's a is though not at all?

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Okay, then okay, longer we here longer we here.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Well, listen. It's a funny thing about it too. As
they are finding wives, you know, because in the Bible
say what a man finds a good When a man
finds a wife, he's finding a good thing. You notice
how things after they get married then continue to elevate
to go great. They continue to So guess who else
couldna get married?

Speaker 5 (44:02):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, oh hey, why are you gonna guess what? Oh?

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Shay too, I'm coming it out the right. You know
what they say? You know what they say. Now when
one out of the group getting married, it causes a
trickle effect and everybody start walking down the aisle.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I'm gonna jump the room. Wait, I'm a ceremony. Hell
if I get married. If that's the wrong one, I
jumped across we divorced? Uh, yeah, you gotta come in

(44:43):
on that. You gotta come in on that right on, Joe?

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Hey, Oh, would you say everything wrong when you're gonna
jump right across the room? I jo across the room
right crossing me?

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Divorce? Hey? All that?

Speaker 1 (45:05):
But and another thing on Joe. They say the bigger,
the bigger diamond that you buy, the more likely it
is to get you get the boys. That's what that's what.
That's what. Studies show that.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I was going to ask you where that came from?

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Is that real?

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Hey, because do you think about our grandparents. They ain't
have no diamonds. They had a gold band. Everybody had
a band back then. Yeah, I had My grandma had
a gold man.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Grab.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
My Childie had a gold band. Granted had a gold band.
I guess these diamonds came along in the fifties of
sixties or something. I don't know, because my granted, my granted,
my grandma got married in in the forties. Uh yeah,
forty grab, I think Granty got married in like forty two,
forty three. Grandma Childie got married like thirty nine, thirty

(45:56):
eight something like that. Uh, I get it, I get it.
You know you're like any women like I won't do
you know, I won't at least six casts.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
I want at least ten carrots. I want this.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
I mean, what kind of carrots? You tell you about
the kind of bugs bunny bus be? Hey, Hey, what
the prices are? Diamonds are coming down the beers.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
You see, they got these lab grown diamonds, and it's
really really hard to tell. And so everybody starts flocking
to that. But oh Joe, I look at some point
in time, Oh Joe, you know I got to come
in nobody this rain you.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
Got coming see see see want to listen to me?
Now you hear me, You start to listen to me.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Now I know.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
I know. You got your team of people. They keep
they keep everything, they keep everything together for you.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
You hear me.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
You know you got you gotta you got a good
squad over there. You know you got got this spend.
You got things running, you know, consistently in a good way.
But when you find a woman and she laid hands
on you, well you ain't gonna know where hit you. You
have me, you ain't gonna know it. You because I
don't want you. I don't want you getting older, and
y'all don't want you. I don't want to see you

(47:05):
in the home. I want I believe with my daughter.
How are you gonna invade her space like that?

Speaker 1 (47:13):
He already told you, already told my boyfriend my daddy,
get old, he go, he gonna stay with me, all right?

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (47:20):
I was like, nah, you too much like me. You
be yelling and screaming. I can't I can't tell you
that you know what you making joke? Now, I want
you to think about something now that what you want
to think about it. Statistically, you're fifty seven, right, I'll
be fifty seventh June. Well, we're gonna do something special.

(47:41):
I'm forty seven right. You got to think.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, we've already lived the better half of our life.
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm going I tell myself something.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Listen to me now, stay with me, chat. We've lived
the better half of our life. Now we still have
a good amount of life to live. But at this point,
we ain't got no time to be playing no games.
If we ain't found nobody in our twenties, we ain't
found nobody in our thirties. You know you ain't found
nobody in your forties. You know I'm finna be. I'm

(48:13):
finna be fifty.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
Man.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
For me, I ain't got time to be playing no more.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
You hear me?

Speaker 4 (48:21):
What would I tell you? What I tell you? Man, Man,
it's my time and I deserve I'm perfect. I ain't
ever been perfect, but I deserve. I know my my
time in ticket maclock is. My clock is ticking. Don't
forget what I deserved. But I ain't got time't got
time to play. Oh, I just I wanted to show
you that CARDI crash too. I forgot to.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I got to show you that, you know, spend all that, buddy,
spend all that buddy.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
Listen, Hey, thank thanks, thanks the night cap. You know
I'm moving different all twenty twenty five and I'm taking
in chat if if you pay attention, I got one
quote that will be science. Anytime you see me moving
and acting different than out of character.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
This, oh we saw.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Yeah, your fault. It's your fault. It's your fault because
I never do things like this were able to happen
if I want catching the football and scoring touchouts. When
they tell you God's good boy, you ain't been nothing
but a blessing. You hear me, I'm here the first one.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
To thank you. They're talking about Jesus, got this will ship,
got the will.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
No, it was just it's the bad look like I
told you that man, when we're gonna get you know,
you had I have a conversation offline.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I said, no, Joe, We're gonna.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Be so good. They got they got to come. Hey, listen,
they coming. They gotta come see the movie Feeling Dreams. Right,
you know what they said in the movie. In the movie,
they said building, if you build it, they will come.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
That's for us.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
People have to also understand when it comes to us,
stay saying look, look, look, use your ass now. When
it comes to us, things come a little bit more difficult,
and we got to work a little harder to get
we want to go.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Well, we just we keep doing what we do it
They're gonna have to come since because they see like
our fan base, Look, we're gonna have We're gonna have dollars,
and they sales haters, whatever you want to call them.
But all I know is that twenty five fifty eighty
ninety thousand, they watched.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
They listen, and they like our content.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
A lot of times people quote come back and they
quote our content.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
So advertise a sponsors see that. Trust me.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
I'm sitting in the meetings with them. I'm talking to them.
I know what they're saying. So all that other stuff
that people be talking about, oh they ain't talking about nothing, Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Talking about nothing.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Wait, well, you better tune in for two hours, especially
on the night like the while I'm feeling good. You
can tell I'm feeling good because I'm talking real God,
damn fast, and I ain't even cursed. I ain't even
cursing tonight. I'm feeling good. Why im feeling good Caause
I took me in that I slept for two I
slept for three four hours a day.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
This is what you get.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
It.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
It's only gonna get better, Oh Joe, It's gonna get better.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Can Clark agent faild She won't ever be paid what
she's worth to the league. Will Cave and Clark ever
be paid by the w NBA what she's really worth
to that league. I don't think that's possible. She's a
part of a larger player player body. They all need
to be paid more. She should be recognized for what
she had done and what she's brought to the league.
From an economic standpoint, it's as simple as that.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Yeah, I mean, it is what it is. The product
is a part of the money and revenue that they
bring in. It is what it is. So there's only
so much you can make now, Catenin' Clark, her money
gonna come off the court.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
That's you.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Of course she's gonna make her Hey, that's for her.
Asian Wilson, Kelsey Plumb, Oh you know what's by you?
Barbie by you, Barbie Anduryes. That's where it's gonna come
from and along with the other players. But as things increase,
they're gonna be fine. They're gonna be fine. As time
goes on, things are gonna get better for all those

(52:22):
women in the w n b A because the game
is exciting. I know a lot of people, they talk
about it, they trash on it because they're not dunking
and doing all this stuff. But the game is very
exciting and it's it's an environment that you can enjoy.
If you just go watch a game, you'll understand absolutely.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
But I think the thing is O Joe, is that
there are certain players Michael Jordan has never played. Its
value to the NBA Kobe Lebron step that you can't
unless you'renn play, unless're gonna play the one hundred and
fifty two hundred million dollars. That's the only way you
can't think about what the league was with Magic Now,

(53:03):
Magic and Bird they got TV to be a live
event all of a sudden. Now the finals weren't take delayed.
Jordan took it to a throw a whole new stratosphere.
Jordan making five six million dollars. How the hell, you
playing Michael Jordan five to six million dollars, Yeah, Coby
lebron So and women like not say women her in particular,

(53:25):
let's deal with her.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
You can't pay her work.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
You can't unless you player fifteen twenty million dollars and.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Then that that would probably be her worst right now,
yes reaction.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Clark's salary is expected to be just over seventy eight
thousand dollars for the twenty twenty five season, and economists
for IU and the Owl of University recently calculated that
Clark was responsible for thirty six million in economic impact
to the city of Indianapolis, are at almost twenty seven
percent of the league's economy activity in twenty twenty four,

(54:03):
including attendance, merchandise, sell, and television. When Stevie Day we
were secured, we were wrecked across the coast.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
When we said what we said, everybody, did you just
say how salary was for twenty twenty five, seventy eight thousand,
this year seventy eight thousand.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
All we did was try to tell all Trump said, Look,
she's the biggest thing in the WNBA, in WNBA history.
Oh what about I said, guys, that's not the minimize
O the Jordan was the biggest thing to hit. You
can't what will Oscar and all those guys, But Jordan
was a different level. It's okay to say that, Yes,

(54:50):
there were great players, be it Cythia Cooper, be at
LSA Leslie, be at Sheriff Swoops, all of those, whoever
you want to name. The biggest thing to ever hit
the w NBA is Caitlyn Clark.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Hey, Listen, Timing is everything. Timing is everything.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
The timing in which she started doing what she did
at Iowa, the timing in which she entered the NBA
along with Andrew Reese, the feud between them, not really
a few, but I'm just saying from a competitive standpoint
with LSU playing Iowa that the timing which they came
to the NBA, I mean it was perfect, especially in
this social media era era, to my area social media era,

(55:31):
it was perfect.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
So don't get mad. I mean I would embrace it.
I'll be trying to push your hey, man, put on
the living team.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Man.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
You made me know all the joy said, we're gonna
sayd they little girl's gonna be put brother, put on there,
all star game. Let her be all start. Hey, even
if she ain't a starter, let her be all start.
If you don't mad if she injured, vote I asked
like they did Magic Johnson in ninety two.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
And understand, understand, have the long term vision, have the
long term vision to understand what happen her in positions
does for everybody else?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yep, I mean, look she does.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
I mean Michael made all his money off the court
because he is making.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Yeah, oh yeah demns.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
But I'm saying the man and then you know, like
I said, he made a couple of flat lebron stepped man,
Come on, bro, how you gonna.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Pay them what they're worth? Possible? And seventy eight thousand man?
That come on? Man? Who well, hopefully she can make
two hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
It jumps all the way up to two hundred thousand,
which is you know, twou there thousands a lot of money.
So I don't want people to say, can't I talk
about he either lost touch reality?

Speaker 2 (56:47):
I understand, guys, when.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
We look at stuff and sports term, we understand that
the average person is not going to be making two
hundred thousand dollars a year. Once you get to once
you get the six figures, you get that one hundred
thousand of mark. That's the money. Then you go to
one fifty, you go to two hundred, you go to
three hundred. Yeah, we understand that. When we're speaking in
sports turns. Sports turns, and all I know is she's

(57:12):
worth more than seventy eight thousand dollars dollars.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
That's what I know. I don't know anything.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Look, I ain't no economists, but I know I know
when I saw her at the at the Ace's game,
I know they had like nineteen thousand fans up in there.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
Yeah, and listen and to speak on it, not to
leave anyone else out. She's worth more than that. Asia
Wilson is worth more than that. All the young ladies
in the WNBA, especially those that are stars on the
Pacific teams, are worth.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
More than what they're being paid right now. Oh cho,
I don't think you heard me.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
They estimate that she's almost twenty seven percent responsible for
the economic activity in the league, attenders, merchandise, well and television.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
One person that people.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Swore up and down and called me everything but a
child of God when I said this, and I didn't
even need numbers to buy me up, because I saw
the buzzers.

Speaker 7 (58:15):
I saw the buzz from which she was in college, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Jesus, yeah got it. I got a question.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Yes, if you played Caitlin Clark one on one till
you level right now, you think you can score?

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Man? Look here, man my knees. Y'all have to roll
me around the wheel. Man, I ain't ran or did anything.
Hell no, man, when I squad, I have to come
home with ice my knee and you talking about running
bound up and down to that hard ass court.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Hell no, I can't beat Katelyn Clark.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
No, hell, I could barely beat Roy Clark and he
been dad forty years.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Please could I score?

Speaker 4 (59:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Just with my physical side, just overpowered? But I ain't baking, Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Cause after about after about we get about five minutes here,
my back got tightened up. Yeah yeah, man, that's all
I need. I jump one time. Now, I don't pulled
a quad. I'm gonna pull the hamster. Nah calf No,
I'm good, she got it. That's funny. No, I be hey,

(59:49):
I ain't be none of them with now. Hey, now,
if you asked me when I was in.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
My twenties, yeah yeah, you can score then? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
go score. I beat all the ass.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
I can't fifty seven every every lady in the NBA
right now, I guarantee you I I'm older than that parent.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Yeah, or close. We might be the same age. They
might have graduated eighty five. I graduated eighty six, but
it ain't much different.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Oh man, I thought you you know when you're gonna
put up a love fight, but you got it. No, no, no,
I'm really I'm really okay, okay, okay, probably fifty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
I haven't dribbled a basketball in like thirty years. I
haven't run since two thousand and nine. And you think
I'm about to just go out there and play somebody
that does this port.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Mean, you know jog you don't do no cardio at all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
I do cardio, but it's on it's not low impact
to no impact row machiney stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Right. I've tried to bro I got artificial helps I need.
I need a knee replacement probably in the next three years.
I've tried to post push that down the road on shoe. Nah.
I'm good, No, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Maybe next time I get her baby the next life.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Trevor Lawrence does not want to go to the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
I was like I wouldn't say your heart drops, but
you're kind of like what And then I'm thinking about
how can I even get I have a no trade
clause in my contract, so I would know about it,
and if I was getting traded or there's something that
was going to happen, you know, I'd have to be
on board with it, which I'm not. I'm happy hearing Jacksonville.

(01:01:29):
I play, I plan on. You know, we want to
win the super Bowl here and I think, well, we
can do that, and I don't want to leave Jacksonville.
So I'm happy here, so obviously not going to Pittsburgh. Well, listen,
you could be as happy as you want, or something
like this comes out. It's coming. The call is coming
from inside the house. The call is coming from inside
the house. The rumors they coming from inside the house

(01:01:51):
because they're not happy with you playing. They just paid
your whole lot of money. You missed the back half
for the season because of the injury. You know that's understandable,
but you play.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
It's benefitsmal which is why the calls are coming from
inside the house. Stuff like this starts from somewhere. Stuff
like it, Stuff like this gets leaked purposely to the media.
But this is a good wake up call for Trevor
Lawrence to get you know, to to tighten up, to
get it done, because they will move on from you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
But they will.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Oh Joe, he has no trade so any trade cannot
happen unless he signed off.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
You don't have no choice but to sign off on
it if they if they tell you they don't want you,
then they gonna ben That's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Guess what this is my house? I mean, it ain't
for sale. I want to buy it. It ain't for say.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
I know the answer to his problems, and it's very simple.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Was that the answer to the Jacksonville Jaguars problems and
anything dealing with Trevor Lawrence, there's one simple answer. Throw
the ball the Brian Tom and Jr. Every player, I
guarantee you and be all right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
I Jr. Every time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Oh joh, I know you don't keep up with this.
But Bradley Bill got a no trade clause. They did everything.
They putting the man that had got the man coming
off the bench. He's like, I ain't waiting for no
trade claws. Guess where Bradley Bill lives still in Phoenix?

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Hey, I thought, Hey, I thought them three was gonna
be special boy, even though they in some way or
really the same players all at the same time outside
of KD him and Booker. You know what's the difference
between Bradley, Bill and Booker from a skill set standpoint?
I'm not talking about being a fishing and shooting. I'm
just skinning. You know, can both handle the ball, then

(01:03:42):
both shoot. The three got a ned rag and put
the ball on the floor. You know, can play off
the ball if need be. Yeah, for me, I think
Booker is a little bitter. But Booker is a better
player than Bill.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
But Hey and Plugs go to Pittsburgh where they got
state tax. I mean, I'm in Florida. They ain't got
no standing income tax.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Oh yeah, I know. To listen, all the players see
this too.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
But when I did the band advance, everybody, everybody, all
the players talk about Nightcap.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Jake.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Oh yeah, I went to the Fanatics party. They gave
that guy got love. I saw Jetta.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Saw uh huh, Chase.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
I saw a lot of the guys. Oh, they watched it.
So Trevor Lawrence, I know you're gonna see this. I'm
gonna solve your problems. I just solve your problems right here, man,
it's one answer number seven. He was there les you
throwing the ball. Every player, I don't care what play
they call.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
You see. You see uh two high safety running.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
You see one high safety throwing the seven boom case close.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Matter of fact, when he scoes stream, do ball,