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May 4, 2025 63 mins

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Quentin Richardson react to Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets blowing out Kawhi Leonard and the Los Angeles Clippers in game 7, Oklahoma City faces the Denver Nuggets in the first round, & who is winning the Rockets vs Warriors game 7?!

01:47 - Introduction
03:33 - Clippers v Nuggs
29:06 - Steve Bomber flew out memebers
33:27 - OKC/Nuggs
45:12 - Warriors on the brink of blowing another 3-1 lead

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
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This game wasn't very much of a game. I thought
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(00:43):
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(02:05):
let that nineteen point victory throw you off. It was
worse than that. They put the backups in and the
Nuggets excuse me. The Clippers made a little run there,
but one twenty to one on one and the Nuggets
move on to face the Thunder where a four to
three series win over the Los Angeles Clippers. Tonight, I
don't know what it is with James Harderby's Game seventh

(02:29):
Q and O Joe, but it didn't go well. He's
now lost Game seven with four different teams. Tonight, he
was two of eight for seven points. With Philly he
lost to the Celtics, going three of eleven nine points
in forty one minutes. With Brooklyn he lost to the Bucks,
going five of seventeen twenty nine percent. And with Houston
he lost to the Warriors, going twelve of twenty nine.

(02:51):
He did have thirty two points, but it took him
twenty nine shots to get it. I didn't think he
was nearly aggressive at tonight as he was in Game six, Q,
And it showed what was the two of eight one, four,
two or two from the free throw line. He did
have thirteen assists, but they needed a herculean effort. They
needed him in Kawhi to play like they played in
Game six in order to get them over the hump.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
On the road in Game seven, and that didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
What what did you see that call that said, you
know what, the Clippers just not where I think they
should be right now.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Q Man. For me, I think they just got blitzed tonight.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I think like you pointed out Hard's numbers, but I mean,
he did have thirteen assists, and this could have been
like if this was a competitive game, it could have
his numbers could have gone up. But obviously we know,
like you said, it was a blowout early on, you know,
and like you know, Joker didn't.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Even go crazy. It was like the other guys, the.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Supplemental guys really came out applied the pressure that tempo
was up.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
The Clippers were flat. Surprisingly for a game seven, they
were flat. They it looked like they.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Didn't have it early on, and Denver matched the gash
and literally just they just blow them, blow them out.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
They look good.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
At the first quarter they outscored They had a five
point lead heading into the second, and then Denver goes
on and wins that quarter thirty seven to twenty one.
And then they opened the third on the seventeen to
three run, get it up to seventeen to three, and
then get it up to twenty four to four, and
they never look back from from there. So between the
second quarter and third quarter, the Nuggets outscored them seventy

(04:26):
to to forty from.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Down five to start at the end of the first.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Now you go to the fourth and you're down twenty seven,
and it didn't look it didn't look good. Yeah, I
agree with you, Q. You look at Aaron Gordon played sensational.
He'd been playing sensational because even when Joker, you know Joker,
you know there were one game he had a fourteen
point triple double and they blew the doors out of him.
But you get six six players and double figures. Russ

(04:52):
off the bench again, an excellent night. Yeah, man, he
played well. Brown twenty one points, Jamal Murray sixteen, Yoke sixteen,
ten and eight, Michael Porter junior siding tonight fifteen and
Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon's been doing a great job. He
gets on the glass, he's scoring. He doing a heck

(05:13):
of a job on Kawhi Leonards. He's making Kawhi Kawhi
is hee him some shots? Were you making them? He's
making tough shots? And you live with that. If I
can make them, make them tough shots, them spinning fadeaways
and all that. Hey, coach, he made a great play
on me. But I was right there with him. Oh
til you watched this game from the Nuggets standpoints, What
did you like about what you saw from the Nuggets tonight.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
I mean listen, I watched it from start to finish.
The Nuggets dominated in every aspect of the game. From
the start to finish. The Nuggets that they were shooting
fifty two to fifty two percent from the field. They
out assisted Clippers twenty four to sixteen. They controlled the tempo,
They had much more want to for it to be
a game seven. It seemed like the Clippers was flat,
you know, like like you said, you got to want

(05:54):
to be there, you got to want to play.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Obviously it's a you gotta win and you go home.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
They had no type of no type of reassurance like
they really wanted to be there anyway. Michael Porter Junior
delivered a two way masterpiece out there.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Man.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
He had fifteen sixty eleven shooting and uh six rebounds.
But also the bench. Joker did his thing, Aaron did
his thing. Westbrook bought energy. He only scored nine nine points,
but he bought oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Sixteen Bible nine yeah yeah, sixteen point.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Five and nine was sixteen did the bench?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
The bench did well too, but Westbrook energy though, But
that did that do something?

Speaker 5 (06:29):
That do something for a team?

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Man?

Speaker 5 (06:30):
When he coming in, you know he he he might
have got a tech.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
But man, that was intentional.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah, oh yeah, oh you did it on purpose.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
You you didn't see what I saw? Yeah, he did
it on purpose. Thought I thought.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
I thought he want to let the rim go because
somebody he was gonna land on.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Dude, No, sir, that was you didn't see when he yeah,
give me the tech and I don't care, get him
the up out of here. And yeah, well listen, yeah,
you know this is the emotional dude, the passion.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I loved it. I loved it.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
You look, if Russe is on your team, you got
to ride the roller coaster because you know it's gonna
be up and down qs they're gonna be high, and
they're gonna be load loads and you're just.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Gonna have to ride that way.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Some days he's gonna give you this and then some
days you're gonna be like, damn, Russ, slow okay, can
you slow it down? Like okay, have one dury drink?
Not for and you know, cause he gets out of
control because he plays so hard on both ends of
the core and he's gonna give you. That's one thing
you'll never have to worry about. Russell Westbrook is cheating you.

(07:35):
You gonna get your money's worth now, like I said,
and you gotta ride it tonight.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
He was what they needed.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
What was that that game that they won on the
road and they ended up on What's so boy Aaron
Gordon dunked at home?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Russ provided the energy in that game. I like this.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Look, it's gonna be a very interesting series now with
the Thunder and the Nuggets. Nuggets in there before the
Thunder's been the best team in the Western Conference all year.
Everybody wanted to see what when they play somebody that's
been there with experience, Let's see how they shape up.
But looking at this game the Clippers Q. You know,
when you go on the road, Bro, you got to

(08:15):
take it. They're not gonna give it to you because
it's their fans. You've got to get the crowd out
of it. If you don't get the crowd out of it,
and they mess around and get a lead on you,
all of a sudden, the roof's gonna explode and it's
just an avalanche, boom, Colorado avalanche, and it just swelled.
It just swells on you. And that's like Bro and
Tim Lou tried to get a time out. But I

(08:35):
think what happened Telu did something very interested. In game six,
he inserted Nicholas Betune to start the second half. Now
you're out of tricks. He tried, he put it. He
put a Derrick Jones Jr. In the started line up
Chris doug But at some point in time they're like, Okay,
this is gonna be adjustment when Nicholas Batune is in there,
because he didn't have near the impact that he had

(08:57):
in game six, because they caught him by surprise. They
didn't make that same mistake tonight in game seven because
they know when he comes in, knowing that if it
was opportunity, it probably going to be somebody else other
than Chris Done, because Chris Dunn is more of a
defensive guy than an offensive guy. And they won't space.
They won't space for Kawhi, they won't space for James Harden.
But for whatever reason, James Harden was not kneeling us.

(09:19):
But if you look at these numbers, Q wasn't nobody
really aggressive. Kawhi had thirteen shots in thirty three minutes.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
And that's why I say, that's why I say we
can't be that critical of Harden for having, you know,
only eight shots, but he had, like I say, having
thirteen assists. You cannot be aggressive and have thirteen assists
out there like James was playing, he was making plays
and this is like I say, because like you say,
the lead swelled and it became such a blowout. It
kind of takes away from him his chance to go

(09:47):
out there. Because James Harden is the point guard. So
him happened thirteen assists. He's out there doing his job
because he was out there finding people and making plays
and making things happen. It's not like he's two for
eight and this is doing anything else. He had thirteen
assists and final six rebounds. He was out there playing,
but the blowout robbed him of his chance to accumulate

(10:09):
and go out there and get aggressive later in the game.
Whereas where he come out, people may say he should
have came out being aggressive as opposed to trying to
get guys into the game. But I feel like he
came out playing the past first game, trying to get
his teammates going and fan he can get my game
off whenever. But that I get I can get my
game off whenever. It didn't come because the blowout came
too quick.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Listen, based on what we saw to night for the Nuggets,
I know, and I know the Clippers din't show up,
they didn't play well. But based on what we saw
tonight and them having to play the Yeah in the
seven game series, how damnings do you see the Nuggas team?

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Now that the bench we know what, we know what
the starting five to do.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Now that the bench is contributing the way they are,
what chance do you have against him against the thunder?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
The thing is Russ is mainly the bench, their guy.
They don't get a whole lot. DeAndre Jordan really doesn't
play a lot. He played tonight, Yo got in fouled
trouble in the third quarter and he came in there,
but he doesn't normally play a lot. Every once in
a while they'll insert of Peyton Watson and he mainly plays.
But for the most part, they play five guys.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
That's what they play. They play five guys.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
They run their starters and they play Russ Russell get
extended minute and Peyton Watson to come in somewhere anywhere
between ten and fifteen. If things are going really well,
he might play kick hit a twenty, but for the
most part, they run their starters and that's what you
do with Hey man, we.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Ain't got no deep rotation. What do you mean rotation?

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Guy's gonna be playing Tell them you, guy's gonna be
playing somewhere between thirty eight and forty two minutes on
a nightly basis.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
As you go further, they play more respectfully.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I just felt like moving forward, like whether they want,
whether Denver want or lost this series or whatever happened.
I felt like when they fired Michael Malone that they
weren't serious about competing for a championship.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
We all are former athletes, fellas.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
When have we seen a team that serious about trying
to win a championship fire their coach who also won
them their only championship in franchise history games before the
playoffs begin. Wow, I've never seen that my entire time
in the NBA. I've never heard of that. I mean,
you guys can correct me if it happened in football,

(12:22):
but I've never seen that.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
And some team go on and not.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Now you do have Joker, who is all world, one
of the top two three guys in on the planet
and playing, and he can he can get you so
much and they you've seen these this series, if they've
had guys jump up and play and raise raise to
that level. But I think the buck definitely stops here
with ok see, they like you just said, they play
five six guys and this is.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
A young team.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
This guy they go eight nine, D, eight ninety and
they got they got three and D.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
They got trumps and and what's the best position in
the league? Wings? Right wing? Wing players start three and
D guys.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
They could play both sides, they could shoot threes and
play defense.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
They got trumps in that they got plenty of them.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
They can they can send one in and send another
one out and keep on roll taping. So like, and
then they got they got the ultimate trumpet and SGA
and I don't feel like I feel like he's the equalizer.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I don't know that Denver got no answer for that.
Hold on Q.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
So basically, you and unk y'all y'all on the same page.
So you saying the Thunder's gonna win the series against
the Nuggets.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, I got the Thunder for sure.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Okay, yeah, is gonna take It's gonna take a herculean
effort from Yoke and Murray. Now do you get that
murder that you got the on the road. Yeah, no,
that was home.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
That was that.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
I don't I don't listen. My questions don't even come
with Joker or none of that. I just I just questioned.
I feel like Joker and Ag Aaron Gordon, like, first
of all, AG is a championship player.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
I feel like he's underrated.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
He's one of the one of the best blue guys
to like slash do whatever you need Swiss army knife
type guys in the league that could score thirty or
or score team and if you need him to not
be a guy that's got an attitude, gonna show up
with the work player and go to work every day
and give you everything. But I feel like those have
been like two of the most consistent players for the Dead.
Have any questions about either one of them. But like

(14:13):
you say, if Jamal Murray show up like like superstar
Jamal Murray, that could change the series and it can
make the real contest. And if he does that, but
I think he tips the scales one way or other
whether he played. If he plays really well, this could
be a six to seven game series and anybody could
win it. But if he doesn't really go out there
and play at the all star superstar level.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
The thunder not about to be contested about him.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
They don't got if he's not playing and giving you
twenty to thirty, they don't have enough foul firepower.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, they they need Laker Jamal Murray, the guy that
played against the Lakers and no back to back series
that he game where they was letting it go and
routinely being in the thirty points.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
They need that guy.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Hey, hold, let me say this one time though, because
you just you just brought him up.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
What happened to the Lakers? Lagers are fine. Look I
can't be on here. And I asked that question because listen, Christen, I.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Was one of the people that was early on when
they did what they did. I'm like, man, JJ my man,
fum like they they look it good. Hey, they had
a legitimate chance. But what happened the Q? They needed Q.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
They needed a big You can't I mean, I mean, look, look,
and the Mark Williams kid would have been great because
he can defend and he could score. When you got
Jackson Hayes and Jackson Hayes only playing four minutes and
now you go Ruy and Lebron So whichever ones playing
the four, the others playing the five, that's a small,
small team. And you saw Rudy Gobert look like prime shock.

(15:42):
He looked like a two thousand shock, two thousand and
one shot, nineteen ninety nine shot. So you told me
Rudy Gobert was gonna give me twenty seven and twenty four.
I said, man, get that bleep out of here. That
man ain't never scored twenty seven and twenty four. And
that's what happened. I mean, look, ad Man did his
The role players for the Timberwolves played much better than

(16:04):
the Lakers. You look at nas Red. Every time he
was asked to knock down a big shot, he knocked
it down. H McDaniels, he knocked it down. You get
the consistency of the steadiness.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Of my college.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
The Vincenzo came in and gave him some quality men's
but a man did his thing. But Rudy Gobert did
you have the size? And you can't. You can't.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Normally, what happened.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Rudy Gobbert becomes unplayable in situations like this, especially late
in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Dude out there the whole game. Let stay out here.
Like this, not like I just say out here. He was.
He was the most dimin forts in the league that night.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, we'll be back through. What wait, what did you
think that? What did you think that that man walking
walking from the State Yeah, team my hall boys, he did.
He's wrong for that. He wrong for that. And that
was that was that was That was dope.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
That was dope. That was live.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
You love that right there and walk Yeah, six minute
walk from the I'm sorry that crypto. I'm old school.
You see the Clippers jersey I call it was still
I can't.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Get it out of my head.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
But from the Staples to the rints over there, like
a little six minute walk.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
I think he wanted to go ahead.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
And the whole all the way, ride, the whole, the
whole gut of the building.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Now, listen, there are a few players, there are a
few players in the NBA that are like that, and
he's one of them.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
He's one of them.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
He's accessible, and he's accessible and he's relatable. That's why,
that's why he should be the face of the league,
whether he want to or not.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
And you know what, I think make him so relatable though,
because like is think about it, think about what about
the say fellas, when you think especially about the NBA,
when you think about if you take Alan Irison out
of the equations, because Ai was he one of one.
He did it his way and that was just take
you take Ai out of the equation. Right. If you
think of the last twenty thirty years, every high shot

(18:00):
superstar or about to be the guy rookie that's coming
to the league, they more careful than ant Man. You
know what I'm saying, Like ant Man, like they most
guys won't come out and say, yeah, give me I'm
a dog this dude, I'm a dog that dude. Yeah,
I want to play like like most guys would say
the politically correct thing just because that's the right thing

(18:22):
to do or whatever.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Right like and four it goes any of that.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
He literally says whatever he's thinking at that point, like yeah,
like what you mean. And the part about it is
like that we that I feel like our community relate
to it as the brashness he walking it like he
talk it. Yeah, boy, building up a resume is to go.
Like by the time he get through, I don't know
who gonna beat the do all on that hitting list,

(18:48):
But it's like the way he walking people down and
talking to and he only twenty three years old, and
he like really out here, like because the thing about
it is like when you watch him Jay and the
Last Dance, when he's sitting there saying he got the
bat and he got the cigar, and he's like, yeah,
anybody could talk on their way up. He like, tell
you a real man to say it before. It didn't
help that man out here talking it before.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
During, and after. You tell me like like that. We
loved that.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
But at the end of the day, you it don't
matter if you don't get the rings, You're just gonna
be talking.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Now.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
He got Listen, we all know that he got all
I'm saying that you know, you got to get that
to go trying to go you that's that's that's factual
he got. But what I'm saying is that he building
up for resume on you, luc Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Before all the greats in one a first one. He
only twenty three. So what I'm saying it.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Ain't a lot of people that did well he didn't
did on their way at twenty three.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, he eat it up. Yeah, I think I still
think he needs to. I think he needs another piece though,
I mean, I love you. Jrew Randall was unbelievable. But
you know, give him guy, he gonna bang on you,
bang on you. Uh and you know ant Man gonna
give you what he gave you. But Rudy Gobert I thought, no,
Jay Jaydon McDaniels, I thought his game because there were

(20:09):
a couple of games that that first game he was
sensational at, made all the right plays with the assists total, and.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Then what that game for? They let him go? Hey,
why they let him get what was that game three?

Speaker 2 (20:21):
A game four? He went, hey, Wyan got forty three?
When JJ you know he know, smartest guy in the room.
I'm gonna run these guys. Lebron on forty old legs
forty six minutes, Luca on that body forty six minutes.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, he can't do that. You can't.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
You got you got to steal when they up by ten,
steal your two minutes.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Say I don't care, guy, if you.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Come down and get shot clock violations, Just get me
two minutes off the clock so I can get Lebron
and not get Luca. Two minutes. That's all I need
because le Bron was dead. Tyler the Man took two shots.
One of them was terrible and one of them he
just he blew a smoke.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
The layup.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was,
he was tired. They ain't nowhere around it. Forty your
old legs playing forty six minutes, Q. First of all,
you know it's like to play forty six minutes and
your twints. Now imagine that thirty five forty you right?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
You right? But and JJ's defense man, like we and
I'm not calling any names, but I mean, we all
have examples of veteran championship coaches doing some of these
same things to leave us questioning what was going on
and what was happening and why the decisions they were made.
You know what I'm saying, I feel like, when I

(21:34):
look at the overall body of work, JJ had did
a great job this season, you know what I'm saying,
did they come up short? And I feel like, also
the expectations got kind of blown out of proportion of
the sort at a certain point because they had done
so well. And we got to give JJ and that

(21:55):
staff that credit for coming out of the second half
having a total different look from change from having Anthony
Davis as an anchor to going and getting Luke and
then still coming out and making their team look formidable
in rush and surgeon to the third seed is which
what was made everybody get all of these thoughts like
they could actually win, when in reality they the roster

(22:15):
was never really fit to win and can really compete truly,
but people gotta leave, you know, fans are fans, and
even us as analysts and people that that's.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Been a part of the game.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
We kind of get caught up in a moment sometimes,
but like they when you really look at it, like
you said, they didn't have enough. When that Mark Williams
trade didn't go through, that kind of was hit in
a nutshell, Like I felt like what we saw from
him post trade showed that he could have been formidable
for them if they would have made that trade and
they would allowed it to go through, But for whatever
reason or unbeknownst to us, they didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
And that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
But I felt like from that point they truly weren't
a championship roster. But the greatness of Lebron and Luca
gave us the feeling that maybe they could harry in there.
But when they just couldn't.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
At the end of the day, Look, Clippers got the
richest owner in pro sports, had a healthy Kawhi. It
didn't even matter, you know why because we had buddy
passes and we wasn't going to can cool until our partners.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
So you know, a buddy pan you fly, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
You fly.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
They'll be they'll they'll be coming in shortly. I'm sorry,
we have some technical difficulties. We really don't. But we're
just waiting on the Clippers to join us as can kuon.
Oh y'all thought y'all gonna be celebrated, how you you?
I know you got a little jersey in the back.
You thought y'all gonna be celebrated. Oh yeah, yeah, No
you're not.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
No, you're not.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Man, that's the side sixty. That ain't no little what
you're talking about my little jersey. You know how black
folks do when we get it. You want to, Oh,
I see a little called for them, got the lit
little jersey.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
You know what we do.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I'm not drafted by the Clipper, so we all know
how we the teams and drafted that. We got a
special connection with them. So you know that's why that's
back there. That's what that is.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
A Q.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
You know what we do it You get a job.
Oh you still in that little Joe, You still get
that little job.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Job you said, that's a little bad.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
Gotta be there over Hey. That's that's us. That's our
people every time, y'all.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
I mean, I know you want't go. You were gonna
come over here and gloat to die, you know the clip.
But you know you go get say you know what
I'm saying, You're gonna come over here gloat. But I
had already put that call in the yoke. You know,
normally own Joe putting the call in. But I put
that call in the yoke, and Aaron Gordon said, look
at man, I need y'all to handle this bus now.
Y'all took decided to playoff two years in a row.
I need y'all to do it a favor because y'all

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got a face for the l A teams putting them
out of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
It's like we got you.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
And I was my ability to gloat when I was
because I'm really I'm down here in Orlando. You know,
I'm with the Magic, So I'm riding with the young
boys down here. So don't worry.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
This year.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
We had some injuries and some setbacks, and we're gonna
be We're gonna be barking loud.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
You know what I'm saying. Blay Caro and partner.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
We get Suggs and the brother Mobagner back, Mota, one.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Who chippy, the one who brings the you know, the
physicality and you know little get a little chippy out there.
But once we get back to full strift and I'm
excited to see, you know, what they're gonna do in
the off season and you know, whatever they do their
justice and that.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
But like we got a good young coach, we got
a good young team.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
You know, we got picked still in the draft, and
I think we got flexibility to improve or whatever they're
gonna do, and we're gonna be ready. But I still
I still got Boston, So I wasn't coming here to
brag on. Yeah yeah, I'm rolling with with with with
j T and JB over there.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
They they fully loaded, they're back ready to go.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well, you're definitely gonna have to if y'all gonna talk
about the Cup, do something in the East, y'all definitely
gonna have to get past them because he ain't.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Going nowhere at the time. So's fact. That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Oh ye, Steve Barmber flew out members of the Wall
to Denver for Game seven tonight. Steve Barba covered airfare, tickets,
buses to the game. You think more owners should do
things like this cute O Joe.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
I love you, I love it. I mean not ultimate fan,
so you know, yeah, mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
You not. Not very many owners are open like brother Bomber, though.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Not very many owners get worth one hundred and twenty
b it either. Okay, let's start, but let's start with
that damn open.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
But but listen, even even despite his worth, you can
see he's really invested, not into just the team and
the players and and and the fans as well. He's
he's different, the operation is different as the owner, not
not like most. So I don't see other owners even
taking Can you imagine Jerry.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Doing something like that?

Speaker 2 (26:59):
If you he he's a more app version of Mark Cuban.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
You remember how Mark that's deep.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Step now that now listen, I'm gonna tell you forget it,
like even past the fans standpoint, like when Steve, I
mean when when when Mark Cuban came into the league,
even if players didn't really act on it, like everybody
wanted to play for the mass just because of the
way they was getting treated from from the they had
the they had the planes, they had the new facilities

(27:31):
and everything. That's that's how Bama made it. He's like
everything they do for them is like second. Everything is
top tier second like top nighte situation and everything you
hear about it, and it's like the players love the
way they get treated, like from not just to play,
like you say, the families, the fans, Like when this
dude was flying out that many fans, it's like yo,

(27:53):
and he genuinely excited to do it too. Oh yeah,
And that's I'm like, man, if I could have did
this when I was if I was like, that's the
type of stuff he's He's really gifted to people. It's
like for realer fans dream because he's the biggest thing.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
And that's what I was about to say.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
He's a fan that had a boatload of money and say,
you know what, I want the NBA team, and you
know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna pay four times
the asking price because priud of that the most team
that ever sold for was Sacramento over five hundred million.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
He drops two point two billion.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Col I have a question, not to be I'm not
to be counting nobody pockets, but his wealth.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
Do you how do you attain as well?

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Microsoft? He's the CEO of Microsoft.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Okay, okay, okay, okay okay.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
And so when you do, and so I know the
orders will happen like because we ain't never had, ain't
nobody going down.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
So from that point on, it's three Bisons.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
And you see the Celtics just sold for six six
point one billion.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, he thought I think he pursed him for like
four hundred million. So he's gotten fifteen times. His attorney,
well they call it fifteen x. Now he's just say fifteen.
It's fifteen x his money. But like you said, he's
a fan, not more. Look, a lot of times I
don't know if like Steve Barmer strikes mail that got

(29:14):
Q correct me if I'm wrong. Even if he didn't
own the team, he would go to the game and
be acting just like he does.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
The owner.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
They're not going to the game and behaving like that
they're gonna be. He would sit right down there on
the floor and and behave. In the matter in which
he behaved, you can see the enthusiastic whether people, uh, hey,
he'd be He'd definitely be a guy you love to
play for. I mean, look, hey, don't worry about the
tax failer. I don't want y'all money. I build my

(29:42):
own stadium.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Hey, I want don't don't add no sales, sales tax,
don't bring no hotel tax.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
I got all this and watched this.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Somebody to put more bathrooms, and y'all could believe in
this thing. And I'm gonna be hyped. He say, he
don't want me here, don't want Joe. He don't want
nobody to miss any part of the game. So you
don't want no long lines? Right, gotta love him. I gotta,
I gotta, I got, I gotta go. I gotta check
that a rent out.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Man.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
You've been there, You've been I don't.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Have been there. I haven't been there. They just opened
it this year. The All Star Game? Is that that?
You're right? You?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I think it's yeah, I think so. I got I
gotta get out there too. I ain't been out there neither.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, I want to check it out.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Thunder Nuggets Western Conference semi finals, Thunder, eight days rest,
Nuggets twenty four hours of rest.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
You who do you have winning? And in how many games?
I ain't picking the games and all that I got.
I got the I got the Thunder winning. I guess
I would say I would say about six games. Damn,
that's what I would go take. I would go take
the Thunder and six also.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Would you like it? On Joe Man?

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Listen, I like, damn, that's a good one. Yeah yeah,
I like s c A.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
I like the rest of them. Boy like the bench
for them. Damn nuggetsuk Man. They not too far come
and removed from a championship. They got experience being in
the playoffs. I know they don't have as much depth,
but I got it. I got the nuggas in.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Seven mm hmm. I mean ESJ is a low man.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
And the thing is that, look when you got they
got two bigs, They got Chat and they got Hartenstein.
They can throw at yoke. They got depth, as Q
was talking about earlier. They got wing defenders. You go
lou Dort, you got Caruso, you got Wallace, you got
Isaiah Joe, you got Williams. They got five guys five
so at all time. They're gonna have two to three

(31:44):
premier wing defenders on the court at all times. There
are very few teams that can say that. Yeah, I
mean that as a matter of fact. They no other
team that can say that to have that can have
that many wing defenders on the court at all times
because Lou Dort and Dort Williams, Willis, if the guy
is gonna they'll probably put on Now, they probably probably

(32:05):
put Dort. I think they're gonna put Dort on on
Jamal Williams, Jamal Murray. I think they'll go start with that.
Y'all can make it three?

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
They all can defend, but they all can make it
three too.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yes, I think Kristan Brown is gonna start off on SGA.
I don't think Gordon start on him.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Gordon.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Look, Gordon matches up better against bigger guys, not as
quick guys as Jed's a little bit too. I think
he's a little bit too quick for a g although
that body might wear him down.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Hey, let me just say this about sg a right.
Y'all saw how many times he scored twenty points in
a row? How many times he scored thirty points? Yep,
that means, can't nobody in the NBA stop him, regardless
of siety, regardless.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
I'm talking about it, don't regardless if anything.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Go show the numbers, like look at what he average,
Look at how many times he scored?

Speaker 1 (32:55):
What he scored.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
When you do that in the NBA, that gives you
the right to look, spin me around with my eyes
closed and stop me wherever I look. Nobody can't guard me.
'all direction, they not guard me. That's what he has shown.
And this ain't just one. This has been two three
years running after thirty and putting up thirty this many

(33:17):
times in twenty like bron on efficient thirty mean you
could get thirty and shoot forty five percent? He shooting
over have a guard to get that many points and
to be that efficient.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
There ain't a.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Whole lot of guys that's ever done that in the NBA.
He could say, you can't guard me, and they can
ask you. They can ask him who you talking to?
He said, whoever listening?

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Listen leirty, They can't guard whoever. You know.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
The thing is Q When you're dealing with a player
like that, you're right. But I'm gonna make it this tough.
I'm gonna try to make it. You get that, you
get thirty two, but it's gonna be inefficient. You're gonna
shoot ten of twenty seven what you sposed to do.
That's what I'm not gonna let you. I'm not gonna
let you go night team of twenty six on me
because now all of a sudden, that's gonna be damn
near fifty because I know you're gonna get to the
fire line. You're gonna get to the firelight at least

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ten times. Not the thing I like about the playoffs.
They don't call that tik tak stuff in the playoffs.
You got damn to draw blood to get a fire
in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
And man, you see, he ain't playing about one of
the last things played like ever go Yeah, Like that's
because they were dishing out their work, you know, your
birthday parties. He's chilling doing commercials and stuff like Ready,
the best game for the Nuggets to steal is game one,
because they might be a little rusty with all that

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time off.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
If you know, that's not a real thing. That's not
a thing.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
No, I feel like that's the narrative that we use
after the result of the game comes out if they
come If okayse come out game one and beat them
by twenty, nobody's gonna say nothing about Russ. They're gonna say,
oh no this, They're gonna say the rest was good
for them, but like yeah, clearly if they lose, they'll say,
oh they was nah. We as acutely as know, like, bro,

(35:06):
you could go, you could have a week of rest,
or you could play the next day. If it just
depends on how you feel. It ain't got nothing like
you know what I'm saying. Something was that had some
of my best games on the back to back or
your best games and you dead time, but you didn't
think you was gonna hap But it just you know
what I'm saying, Like to me, that's that's a narrative
that we use, or it's easy to use after the

(35:27):
result of the game comes out. How many times during
the regular season do you get eight days off outside
of the All Star break?

Speaker 1 (35:36):
You don't. That's my point.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
You normally because there's you can't simulate what you actually
do in the game by doing shoot a round and
them scrimmage is five on five or three on three
or whatever you guys do. There's nothing like game situation right,
that game situation if you got there was those guys
haven't had a game situation in a very very long time.

(35:59):
And if you look yet, I thought the Lakers have
it all that time off what you call him, they
was already locked into the three seed, I mean the
sixth seed. They uh once they won that game, and
I think the Warriors lost. But we'll see, We're going
to see.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
S G.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
A Is gonna be interesting because I think, like you said,
I think Christian Brown is gonna start on gonna start
on SGA.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
But I think the thing is people don't realize how
tall s. G. A is.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
He's not a small guard six seven. People looking at
him like he's six three six four.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
He's not.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
He's a tall He's tall as hell. I've seen him
up close. He's he's taller than you think, physical than
people think.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Yeah, Hey, you think you think them having so many
days off going to this next series, you think having
that much time off and do more harm than good
or you think the opposite.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
I think the thing is is that that first game,
because a lot of times, especially at home, you're like
you try to feel your way in, you try to
let the crowd build up and teams race out to
a big.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Lead on you, they get you.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
So that's what he's like, Hey, let's go ahead, try
to get this first game because we know that we're
gonna get their best that first, that best effort.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
And since we hear we might try to its two.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
But yes, I think the best game for them to
try to get is game one.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Because they're not getting gamed.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
So when they come out and smack them game one,
and what if them eight days we're used to like, hey,
we had some guys, they had some little nicknacked dang
little you know son this that they done got healthier
and here day to practice and run back up and
get ready for the games. And we still don't got
healthier too, because like you said, when else doing the season,
then you get eight days the rest you don't. So

(37:45):
whatever nickname you got, we all know you them coming
with you for the rest.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Of the way.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
What about what about rhythm of shooting and doing all
those things that you normally do every day or every
accusing not every day, but every other day or every
two to three days.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Their young team, for all intents and purposes, they shouldn't
have been having those days up this is a young squad.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
They didn't got the NBA. They average twenty four years
old for their team.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
So maybe they take a day or two the first
day off, but even then, y'all should have been in
and out of the gym, getting activated, doing some ways,
doing something, just getting some shot something, not going crazy.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
But they shouldn't have had days where they didn't do anything.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
That'll be dropping the ball if they've actually done that,
they should be all of.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Those These dudes are young boys. They not they they
ain't got.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
No real OJ's or all heads on their team like
that to really be we not doing nothing today every day,
they should have been doing something, even if it's light low.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
They should have been coming in and just.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Getting some free throws, getting some treatment, getting their body activated,
and just staying ready.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, well they should do the ain't nothing to do
in Oklahoma, so yeah, they should have been there anyway.
You absolutely right Oklahoma. Although if you have been to
Oklahoma's oacho but the populo.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
Oh man, you forgot. I went to Langston University.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Oh you I forgot you did with it?

Speaker 2 (39:00):
You know?

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah I know about steel water coil. Yeah yeah, I
stop the round, so.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
You know ain't nothing jumping off. So you're right, that's
that's why they're so good. Imagine that young team in
Miami Atlanta, LA. Lots lots guys can get focused sometimes
that's the best thing. Go to destination and a lot
popping off. You can focus on what you need to
get focused on. You can get done what you need

(39:26):
to get done. And but SGA was gonna be. SGA
was gonna be what he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Be in l A. You see that maturation.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
You see a year after year that dude got better
and better, better and better, better and better. He masked
a he got stepped back either three level score, he
can get all the way to the rim.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
He got a MIDI, he got a three game. He
got to snatch.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
He going to the free throw line eight to ten
times a game, and you mess around, he might go fifteen.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
He needs to understand out there the way he got
this swagged out the way he got this cocky, this.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Car for the repetitions.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yes it is a gym bred. This don't happen by
mistake every move. Then just named it that him doing it.
That's move and making it look that nice. That don't
happen by surprise, that don't happen because he rolled out
of bed and he no, that's Reps. That's going to
the gym constantly and putting in that work to where

(40:24):
it ain't even a question when he go out here,
he already know what moves he could call on and
he set him up and lay him down because he
didne did it a million times.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
At this point, the Warriors on the brink of blowing
another three one lead. Throughout in their history, there have
been two hundred and ninety instances in which the team
is going uh three to one in the playoffs the series.
Only thirteen times had the team come back to win.

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The Warriors know all too well of outdoor a three
to one lead if they're one of the thirteen teams
to do so.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Q who you got tomorrow night?

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Oh man, this is a tough one for me because
you know game seven is you throw everything out the window.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Book. But I can'tnot roll out.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
With with with with with the light skinned Assassin and Jimmy,
Bucky and dre mind just with the experience they got,
man Like, if I'm wrong, I take that to the ten.
But I just with the just with the inconsistent inconsistencies
of the young boys over there in Houston.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I gotta I gotta inconsistent of Jalen Green. Go ahead
and say that everybody else. Hey, Fred van Fleet, the
last five games have been on one. Hey, that's the listen.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
I feel like we don't even respect, Like Fred van
Vliet is a champion, a dog, you know what I'm saying,
Like he gotta get proper respect.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
He doing what I expect to do.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
He over there and like win, lose a drug, Houston
Rockets is gonna be back, wind lose a draw, they
gonna be right back. They forgot something they got. He
may got them boys growing. I love what I love,
you know what I'm saying, Like we're talking about Van
Vliet being a veteran o G I mess people to
get it done and impact the game and be able
to show them and say what he's saying and it

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means something because he out there.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
So I like what they got going on.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
But even still with that being said, I don't know
you got when you got when you got that little
dude number thirty, All it take is if he hit one,
it's now we in the matrix. He turned to Neo
and everything else, it don't matter. We didn't all see
it happen. The game could could comminge on that right there.

(42:39):
If he come out and make one shot and start
looking funny, if he give you a little shindy, it's curtains.
It's not to be a long night if it's like
I don't know, like you say with the with the
to me when I say inconsistencies with Houston, it's like
they don't know where they gonna where they gonna get
they scoring from from night to night. It's like it's nice,

(42:59):
like you know who Meston is going and you know
who you would expect to do it, but like it's
not it's not concrete. You can't hang your hat on it,
like all right, we gonna such and such from from
this player or that player. It's like it might be anybody.
And when you got something like that, it's hard for
me to roll the dice with that.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, look, shing Goon has been some sensational. He's been
doing a great job. He leaves him in points, rebounds,
assist and steal. I thought I may inserting Steven Adams.
He was a difference maker last day. Other night he
gave him rebounding. He gave him toughness. Uh, he did.
He did all the right plays. You know that he

(43:37):
went to Hacker Adams. He may not of sixteen. And
sometimes I think that takes the team out of their
rhythm because now you don't get a flow, you stop,
you don't get to go up and down. But I
don't know what fred van Fleet did from games three
through six, I mean four through six.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
But he been on one. Yeah, I mean he's been
on one.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
I mean he's I'm talking about he's coming down on
the break and he like, now you're under the basket.
I don't want the too, I want this pull up.
I want this twenty six foot pull up. And it's
been it's been money. I like what they're doing when
it comes to Steph because and he tried to come
off that pick, they double him, make him get the
ball up because I don't believe.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Look, Draymond, I'm not worried about Draymond.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
You know that Draymond always take the first shot because
you why they ass open, they're gonna leave moing too.
You You not finna make eight of tholds. Steph Curry
can so you shoot as many of them as here
want Draymond. We're not gonna worry. We're not gonna worry
ourselves with that. But what we will wearry ourselves with
is to make sure Steph don't get a rich, don't
catch fiuners, keep Jimmy Butler off the free throw line

(44:39):
because you know he's gonna attack the basket. It's gonna
be interesting to see Steve Curle. How does he play
this thing? Because remember the other night he started Gary
Payton a second. He went away from his normal line
up with Potzimski. So does he go back to that
queue or does he still does he ride? Does he
ride with Gary Payton in the second again? Or is

(45:02):
is Moody inserted into the starting lineup? What's he what's
he gonna do?

Speaker 3 (45:06):
I might start Moody and bring bring up, bring bring
gp off because he's a pace changer to me, you
know what I'm saying. He comes in and supposed to
break bras and energy and things like that. If it's
not right, try and get some energy, defensive energy going.
I would start Moody to see. I mean, I like
what Moody's been doing. He presents a lot of length defensively.
You know what I'm saying, and I wouldn't. I would

(45:29):
start him. He's been shooting the ball, I mean, not
not as as well as he makes a big shore.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, he's hit.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
He's telling that he had knocked down the shot, and
he'll make some plays drive to the basket, and like
I say, most importantly, he got that. He got a
lot of lean defensively, and that's you know, that's always
big in these games.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Ojoe, what you thinking the War's gonna blow another three
one lead?

Speaker 4 (45:51):
Absolutely not, you know, Curry not having another bad game
like that. Listen, even with even what they try to do,
trapping him, you know, making making all shots content, it's
not happening. Listen, the Warriors have a championship pedigree and
there's no way in hell they lose a game seven,
not like this. It's definitely not gonna happen. I think Draymond,

(46:13):
Draymond and can do what Draymond does. Jimmy Butler, like
you say, he gonna get to the basket whether they
try to stop it or not. He's gonna be aggressive,
he's gonna be playoff Jimmy like we used to seeing
him when he was.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
With Miami and and Curry.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
He gonna cook.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
He gonna cook, especially after after that last game. He's
not gonna have another performance like that.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
I think Draymond need to make sure he stayed within
himself because I think sometimes he gets going too early
and he kind of gets himself. He gets himself out
of out of river. He gets early files, he gets
text and now he knows in a game like Game seven,
big gonna probably gonna take early because you know, they're
not gonna throw him out.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
They don't want to impact the game like that.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
So he he have a very good understanding cause most
players to do with Draymond does, oh they'll be gone.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
They be teed up when you say, who take that
on the way? Yeah, bro, Yeah, but they wouldn't do.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
They wouldn't do. They wouldn't do him do that to
him in the playoffs though.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
No, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
He knows that. I think sometimes it gets it gets
somebody of his get now. Sometimes he robs himself up.
It gets the team going. But it had the opposite
effect the other night. It got the Rockets going. Yeah,
Ken Goon, there was there was a problem on the glass.
I mean they crushed them. They crushed them. On the glass.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
They had twenty five offensive rebounds. That's part of draymond superpower.
Though he gotta play with that edge. He gotta play
with the you know, with the way he played, that's
that's part of what makes him him. If he doesn't
play like that, he's not as impactful as it or
as effective as he can be. Now, I agree with you,
he got to toe that line and tuck it in
when he needs to. But like he absolutely gotta play
like that to be the most impactful and the best

(47:49):
version of Draymond Green. Like you say, you can't step
over that line, but he gotta tow it. And and
plus that big line up that Houston go out there
with with with Sam and with else Sam matter, with
Steven Adams and uh Shingoon.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
The Warriors can't match up with that.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
That's why Adams and Shangoon was killing him on the
glass cause you really you don't want to play looney,
you really don't, because he don't really give you a
whole lot offense. But he said pigs and he could rebound,
but Shin Gools gonna put it whoever on the on
the offensive end. And so now you got big Adams
They're like, okay, now you take a shoot off the floor.
We want you to play. You know, they try to.

(48:26):
They try to put posts out there. Who's a big
that can stretch the floor and shoot that? But he's
a little bit too inconsistent. So if I may, I'm
gonna keep missen Curry. I'm gonna try to get the
ball out of his head as much as I possibly can.
I'm gonna trap it every chance I get. He goes
to that corner. Hey, let the big guy roll. We
can come. We come from We give your help backside.
But hold on, We're not let Curry get no easy shots.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Listen, we talked about Curry, we talked about Jimmy, we
talked about Dremond. We ain't talk about the elephant in
the room. What is Kerry gonna do about Kaminga. Obviously,
you're mostly one of your most athletic players.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Against the Rockets and the game's Durning the regular season
against the Rockets, he averaged the most points for the
Warriors against.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Them, So it only makes sense the game seven to
put him in there.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
John going to be Steve Kurse said Jonathan. Kamingo returns
to the rotation of one hundred percent on the table.
For in game seven, one hundred percent Kaminga is on
the table. We kind of found a formula head in
the latter part of the season. We've stayed with that
for him to start this series up three to one.
Things are going well, and obviously the last few games
are gone very poorly. We have to assess everything. The

(49:34):
lineup combination started, all of that we have to assess.
I don't know why he fell out of favor and
what happened with that. But did y'all see him the
last time he got in the games? He didn't look
like he was like, he didn't look like then and
looked like he would be. I hope the young fellow
doude get out there and ball out, But on the.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Lists of everything that he did last time, it don't
look likely. None looks like he's mentally there, know, like
when you were a young fellow like that. I don't
know how easy it is for you to get back into.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Us, right a Q when when you have a coach
that that is not playing you and you don't know
what's going on or what happened. Obviously we don't know
from the outside looking at what happened internally for you
to be one of the best players on that team
that can contribute on both on both ends of the court,
and then not getting me playing time. It has to
be it has to be something. It has to be

(50:25):
something that we don't know publicly, but I mean, I
hope it's confidence.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Is there?

Speaker 5 (50:32):
You know, if you after not playing.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
For so long some sometime something like that can do
something to you mentalor obviously when he does get in
the game, or is he gonna be gunshot, is gonna
be scared to pull a trigger?

Speaker 5 (50:41):
Is he gonna be hesitant?

Speaker 3 (50:43):
I mean, if it was me, my boy, I'd be like, listen,
I can't take it personal.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
He benched Jason Tatum. Who am I to be mad
at here?

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Okay, just take it like a champ and keep it moving.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Figure.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
I mean, we'll talk about like, yeah, I don't I
don't know what Kaminga's done, but he's definitely been out
of the rotation and he's one of the more athletic guys.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
He can defend, he can get to he can get
all the way to the rim, he can casual knocked
down to three. That's not his strong suit. But for whatever.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
He don't even get no more up minutes, Like damn,
let me hey, look, let me break a sweat so
I don't have to get on the bike after the game.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
He can't get no cardio here.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
He gotta get on the bike after the game after city,
like I'm all steal and I gotta get thirty minutes
on the station everybody.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
And then he's.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Saying he was getting shot up after one of the
games and anything like that's a that's a little bad signal.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Like I'm like, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah, he probably said get me a hey, y'all, y'all
not gonna play, but get me out of here. Let
me go somewhere, A let me go somewhere at least
I can get driven, I can play. I ain't say, hey, look,
I'm not saying I'm SGA. I ain't saying I'm one
of the five ten best playt in the NBA. But damn,
I see guys that I know I'm better there and
they getting ten fifteen minutes a night.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I can't get that.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Yeah, I know a perfect place for him moving around.
I know the perfect place for him too.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Man, ain't nobody coming there?

Speaker 5 (52:12):
Know the perfect place. Bro right right here, he thinks.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Somebody, I always want to go to the You want
to go to the Miami Heat.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
With with them? Nineteen with them nineteen fifty five rules.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Hey, hey, listen, it ain't it ain't. It ain't Avens
bad as you think it is. Man, people may listen.
When you look at the look at the guys that
go there, they have some of the best years in
their careers when they look.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
At the guys leave. I saw Dwayne Wade leave. I
saw Jimmy Butler leave. I saw Lebron James leave. Now
that's three of the best players that you had in
the last fifteen years. Now tell me what I don't know.
Q again, hold on, hold on, let me finish up.
You can chime in at MQ.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
We all got family, right, Yeah, Sometimes sometimes you get
mad at trying to toll your uncle or your cousin or
even your mom, boy, your brother or sister.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Right. I like that. I like where you're going. They
they look he didn't lean for good.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
He left one over his auntie house, and then he
came back over here and back then on.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
House he came back. Jimmy coming back. I just say,
Jimmy came back.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
I was talking about d Wade when we said that,
when we okay, what about Lebron Lebron going back to Miami.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
No, I said family, But I'm saying the mere fact
that family left. If I if I leave a house,
yeah I might come back with.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
The Wade was a different type of family, Like d
Wade was drafted, home grown there, that's Dade County. And
he left and you can't say the same for Lebron
or Jimmy. So it wasn't that same type of thing.
He left and came back, and they both admitted that
it was some wrongdoings and reasons why they left, and
they came together and pieced up and it's all love.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, this ain't all Look but see, d Wade is
part owner in the Utah Jazz. He's seeing courtse Oude
of the Utah Jazz. Why is it he seeing courtside
in Miami? It's family turn out? Tell him out, d Wade,
do be sitting courtside in Miami.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
He got a statue in Miami and here the smart businessman.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
And deservedly so.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
But we can't we can't pretend like people do not
aren't fed up with Pat Riley in those arcadic waves.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
That's that's not being truth. You hear, but you work.
It can't can go two ways though, you gotta understand it.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Some of those same ways that people being critical of
are the reasons for some of the most brilliant careers
that you talk about, that version of Lebron James that
you know was right under those.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Are Tell me I'm wrong. I still like Lebron when
he went back to Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
No, you asked anybody in the league that Lebron jack
two years back to back?

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Please please? That was that was?

Speaker 3 (55:01):
That was hell on Wills boy, You and me like please,
you talking about okay, okay, both sides, okay, that he
had his best years and then what made Lebron leave?

Speaker 1 (55:17):
You go to twenty seven games winning street? What happened?

Speaker 3 (55:19):
You?

Speaker 1 (55:20):
I don't know. I heard, you know what happened.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
I heard about cookies being taken away. I didn't heard
about all type of stuff. But I also heard that
some of the same things that he ran from that
he tried to take with him and bring it bestow
on these other organizations when he went there. So it
wasn't all better.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
You already listened, You already know Rich Mavis gonna be
there every day, Mavis my chief of staff, not mad
excuse me, Uh, what's the other one that Randy? Randy's
gonna be there. Have you ever seen Lebron James anywhere
without Randy? I have not, whether it's out in Vegas,
whether whatever the case may be, ready is gonna be there.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
You do so pas should have let him be there. Oh,
he gonna be there. You want it, He's gonna be that.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Don't want it? But you have on You already know
what you when you sign up.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
If you get, if you get y'arnis what you see,
what the yay brother is where Yet.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
You ain't time out time out though you just said
you already knew what you get when you sign up. Right, Yes,
you can't say that and then say that Lebron came
to Miami as a free agent knowing, knowing that the
Godfather was the Godfather, and the Godfather do what the
Godfather does, and he always had You signed up for that.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I did, but not for the deep petty and take
some damn cookies away.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
I ain't you listen.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
It could have been the head then, it could have
been anything, but the cookies is we said it up,
but like this, this is what.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
You signed up for when you signed up. I ain't
signed up for this. I signed I'm not here to
get structure. I wanted to play with d Wade, Chris
Bosh and okay, got.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
You two championships and it showed you how to go
on the rest of the way and be a champion.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yeah, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
We talked about we talked about the heat of the
old Let's talk about the new heat.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Let's talk about the new heat. It doesn't matter. It's
still pat running. It about to get somebody, you know, Yeah,
I'm been talking to tebody already already.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Know that's what you, That's what you.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
That's that's what people always understood and knew. Pat Riley
the Godfather is always won't move away. He ain't got
Kevin Durant. And then they want a championship like he
always willing to swing for the fences and do what
needs to be good.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
But you don't have the draft capital to do it.
What are you gonna do? I think about it. He
couldn't get Kevin Durant, he couldn't get Dave Lillard. So
in order to get well, let's just say, for the
sake of argument, Kevin Durant, what do you think if
it's gonna take for him to get Kevin Durant, he
gonna have to give up the hero and bam, then
what who get again?

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Y'all? I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
I told you, I told you who were going to
get I told you already, told you already, I told
I think a Q. I sat down with Pat pat
Riley and Mickeyerrison. I then told Robert Lorrie, I have
talked the ice old Joe. I done told Joe already
and I'm telling you. I'm telling you too. I talked
to Pat, I sat down with Micky Irrison, and we're
gonna get you, honest, We're gonna get John Moron.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
I'm trying to figure out what are you? But see
her at the thing.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
The team to have the pieces that they want assets,
because they gave up all those assets to get said players. Q.
You know how this thing worked a lot of time, Like, man,
I want to go over there, and when you.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Get there, they had to they had to gut it
to get you. And so now you they're in the
same situation you were in where you left from. They're
not gonna be able to I don't see how they
get to Kevin Durant in Miami and keep Bam and
Tyler Hero.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Oh you talking about I want Duncan Robinson and how
at hospital and you be surprised what what these deals
shake out?

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Once these players step out and say that they want
to be moved.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
We've seen like guys ain't been like been yielding.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
What you thought, like when you look at what Rudy
Gobert got in his trade and then.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
It four first rounders?

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Yeah? What? What?

Speaker 1 (59:20):
What? What started happening after he did that?

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Nobody was getting all of these first rounders and it
was looking how like how did Rudy get?

Speaker 1 (59:27):
You hit Rudy fall of this?

Speaker 3 (59:29):
And you hit such and such fall of that that
it wasn't going the same way. They're not giving as
much up, especially when these teams, like when you get
putting that pigeonhole, like a player come out and say, hey,
I want like you done, You're done, Like we ain't
gotta we ain't gotta be in your backing car because
we are basically helping you at this point because your

(59:50):
dude just said he won't out. So no matter what
happens you gotta get out or your situation is blown up.
So at that point, all if they exhausted to a
certain point, it'll get bad.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
See I told you all, why didn't get that bad?

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Why didn't get that bad? They could make pull the
trigger for Dame Lillard?

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
That question? I mean, I don't know the answer to that.
I thought that I thought that was a done deal.
Like everybody didn't want to give up Tyler Hero.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
I don't. I don't see.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
I don't see the scenario where a team doesn't get
Tyler Hero back as a piece.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Do you see that scenario?

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
You never know, man, You know I didn't see it.
I didn't see. I didn't see a scenario on the
planet where Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Was trading Luca. But look what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Yeah, so I didn't learn my lesson, like I didn't
see Shaq get traded.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
MJ left the boys like anything happened in the right circumstances.
They'll do whatever they feel is the best. That's just
how I go. And then they gonna tell you that's
good business. You know what I'm saying, This was best
for the organization. That's why I don't be mad when
players go do what they gotta do. M I don't
see it. People been talk been pat Rodin's supposed to

(01:01:05):
have done.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Had Kevin Durant when Kevin Durant was a free agent,
When Kevin duran got traded, when Kevin Durant was a
free agent and Golden State, he didn't go. He didn't
Well Lebron that was there, so we couldn't go there. Okay,
when he became when he goes to the Dicks, I
mean the Nets. Then what no, pat Riley, he gets
traded in Phoenix. Still no Miami heat at some point time,

(01:01:27):
won't you you didn't give up?

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm I'm letting y'all go back and
forth about it, hypotheticals.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
Already know what's gonna happen. I told you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, We're gonna were gonna work on the bench.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
What this when you get Jannison John is he rowing? Bam?
Still there?

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
I ain't get to that part yet. I didn't even
want to ask.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
For the record.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Let me just let both of y'all know, Bam, not
going nowhere. No, the new Alonzo and U d Rank.
You don't know where that's like that. That's how they
keep this thing going because they find that one pillar
and they pass it on to the next one and
bestow it onto him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
He'd be he all right, there it is. And I
don't see scenario your work team. They gonna want Tyler Hero.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
You know that. I know that. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Maybe Phoenix said, well, we got Devin Booker, we really
don't need Tyler Hero because they basically played the same position.
They both basically tools. Phoenix need a point guard. That's
what Phoenix need. Phoenix was at their best when they
had Chris Paul. Let's be all the way with q.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
E two guard. I didn't like when they got rid
of CP.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
I thought they would have been better even when they
got Brad Bill, Devin Brook and Katie. I thought that
they had Brad Bil that I mean, c p A
would have been better off with that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
I agree. I agree,
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