Nightcap Hour 1: OLD MAN Joe Flacco SHOCKS the Steelers + Micah COMPLAINS about the refs AGAIN + Dak Prescott TAKING PAYCUT?

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Joe Flacco and the Cincinnati Bengals beating Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers in a thriller, Micah Parsons sounds off about how he’s been officiated, and CeeDee Lamb says he is 100% and is ready to play this Sunday and much more!

5:20 - Steelers at Bengals
34:30 - Micah Parsons on the Refs
46:10 - CeeDee Lamb is back to 100%
50:25 - Dak wants to talk to Jerry about keeping Pickens

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It wasn't a whole lot of defense played. If you
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You all have a lot to say about this game,
but Debo gonna crash out because who Joe flak over
thirty one to forty seven, three forty two, three touchdowns,

(03:52):
no sacks. They ran the ball twenty three times for
a buck forty two. Jamar Chase sixteen catches a buck,
sixty one in the touchdown, Higgins six for ninety six
and a touchdown. Noah found had four for forty four
and a touchdown. There wasn't a whole lot of defense
being played, but here we go, oh Jo. The Bengals
beat the Steelers and thirty three thirty one and what

(04:13):
many called the Icy Hot Bowl, This was not the
Uncle Bowl.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
This was the uncles.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Uncles.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
No, no, no, no, no, they can't. They ain't no un
they uncles, that's what uncle. So oh, you're watching this
game I mean, look, Steelers jumped out to a ten
to nothing lead, like damn Bengals, and then all of
a sudden started the fourth quarter. The Bengals have a
ten to have a ten point, have a ten point lead,
and then the Bengals have a ten point lead to
start the fourth quarter, and the next thing you know,

(04:40):
the Steelers go down in the field. Rogers hit friar mouth,
he takes off and they have a one point lead.
But if you're a Steelers fan, based on what you
had seen up until that point, you could not have
felt comfortable with the way your defense was playing. Every
defensive back from the Steelers, Chase gave it to everybody,
gave it rams in the first half. He said, you

(05:01):
know what I think Slay and Porter feeling left out.
I'm gonna make sure y'all ass get it the second half,
so so don't nobody feel like, oh he was picking on,
pick on somebody's side. I picked on everybody and gave
it to everybody. And Tiggin said, hold on, did they
forget about me? He give me that shot down to
give me that real shot. Let me end this thing,
and it did something smart. He said, Nah, I could
score I could split it, but now let me go

(05:22):
on down because I don't want y'all to get a
chance to do nothing crazy, because I know Aaron Rodgers
known to throw here, Mary here or there, but you
won't get a chance to. Oh, Joe watching this game,
what did you like about what you saw from your
Bengals tonight?

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Well, first off, we know what Flacko did, we know
what Chase did, we know what Tigan did. But I
don't want to give credit to the officer line. I
want to give credits to the officer line. I want
to give credit to Zach Taylor, not worrying about all
the nooids on the outside. Oh he needs to be fired,
or it's to play calling. It wasn't none of that.
That was never the problem winning games like this against

(05:54):
a DIVISIT opponent. It starts up front. The officers line
played extremely well tonight. They kept Flacco clean for most
of the game. Obviously uh t J. Watt and then
Hayward got a sacked towards the end. I don't want
to call it garbage time because it was very important
that we're able to get down the field. But outside
of that, they kept Flacco clean all goddamn they Oh
that god damn third down and they ran the goddamn

(06:17):
read option with Joe Flacco.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
They never expected it.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Read option with Joe Flacco does that with a quarterback
that's not a dual threat. Beautiful play call.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
That's why it worked, because you're not expected it.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
At all at all. Beautiful play call. Obviously, the Steelers,
they didn't really really play good defense. They had some
some blown the sims Is on defense. Allowed Chase to
Chase to get.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Off on that shallow crosse laying the ball again. Oh Joe,
that man got fifteen catches. How the hell you let
him get free for sixteen on the shallow croft and
ain't nobody guarded?

Speaker 4 (06:50):
And there was confusion. There was a confusion at the
second level once the motion went Once the motion went,
Patrick Queen, they was confused on who's who was supposed
to pick up who? And obviously Chase chased freedom.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, I'm picking up I'm picking up Chase. If somebody
else getting the ball, I'm good with that. I can
live with that. O Joe, I'm picking up Chase. Man,
that is your guy. Don't worry about it. He got
fifteen catches. I'm just trying to make sure you don't
get sixteen.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
But listen, man, it's amazing, right, it's amazing what happens
when you get a quarterback with a veteran, veteran presence
that's used to willing and dealing, and you put him
in a situation, you put him in an atmosphere with
two elite receivers like that, A good quarterback, a good
number three, a nice tight end. You saw north Fan
got integrated into the office a little bit more tonight. Yeah,

(07:35):
it looked great. It look gret this is one of
the best games, and it got so good to the
point I didn't even care who won the game. I
didn't even care who won the game because it was
so exciting on both sides of on both sides of
the ball, you know, not really much defense. But Aaron
Rodgers was dealing, he was Joe Flacko was dealing.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
So one band play, he had one band play. The
dB made an excellent play on a DK metcalf that
ball out. Yeah that's not on Rogers, Oh yeah, it
definitely was. That was a good turn a DJ turner on. Yeah,
he's quarterback number one. He's quarterback number one. I don't
know what happened. I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
I cam Taylor Brick where they where the healthy scratch tonight?
I wasn't sure, but after watching tonight how they played,
the DB's played, especially DJ Turner or I salute you, well,
excuse you cause you show Joe you know what the
night Why but that guy, damn officer line, that officer line,
he's all the credit for the night on because we
already know what Chase could do. We already know what
t Higgin could do. We know what Chase Brown would do.

(08:33):
That we were able to establish the run before tonight's game.
Chase Brown was avaging two yards to carry on two
two yards a carry. He finished with one hundred and six.
I think maybe had hundred carries. Man, that's beautiful. Anytime
you can run the ball like that, it makes everything
else you want to do easy. It opens up the playbook. Man,

(08:54):
it was a beautiful thing. And the fact that we
as a team now we can compete. Why can we
compete because we got a quarterback, a quarterback that's only
been here for twenty four hours. He's been him for
twenty four hours. And I heard I heard some some
of the some of the stuff they gave. They gave me.
He had thirty plays. They gave him thirty plays last week.

(09:16):
That's all they had on his plate was thirty plays.
And obviously, playing in the Green Bay game, it's only
so much you could do. But he looked good in
that second half when I saw that, when I saw
that driving the second half of like, wait a minute,
I think we're gonna be all right. And tonight I'm
sure they added more to his play and this is
what you get. This is what you get. So next week,
I'm not sure who we plan. We're gonna keeping better offensively, defense,

(09:40):
Just meet us halfway, meet us halfway, and by the
time December gets here, showing that we can compete regards
to who we play. Because the offense is now back,
because we have a competent quarterback that can make all
the throws.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Were gonna be all right, Jets.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
I'm happy.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Oh, Joe, now you understand why Tomlin made those comments.
Oh oh, now you understand he said, you have a
quarterback that were good enough to be your opening day starter. Yes,
you trade him to a team that needs a quarterback. Yes,
either Andrew Berry is smarter than either of us.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
But yeah, Yeah, most definitely. And then the funny thing
about it is Tomlin understood, is you take a quarterback
like Joe Flacco that's been in different different situations, different offenses,
and you put him in an offense with that kind
of talent, yep, with the kind of talent that can
raise your level of play. Flaco ain't got to do much.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
He's not on a.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Team where he has to raise his level of play
because the lack of talent around him. It's the opposite
way when you come here.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Him opposite Wayne O Joe. The thing is you say
he gave thirty plays, he don't need a two plays.
If changes one on one, throw it to Higgins. They
got changed double throw the t Higgins. It's not really
that complicated. And he dropped. He dropped one. He had
a shallo across the quad and oh god, that was
the eavent path you played that you've made tonight and

(11:08):
you dropped that one.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
So he probably should have seventeen to eighteen.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, i'mna start calling Chase mister Thursday Night because we
know what he does on Thursday night. You know last
year he had them for sixty sixty four three touchdown.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
As matter of fact in the first half. This I know.
And we talked about it too. While I talked about
how Carson and I had that that that sense of
if we see a certain plate, he had he had
checking and change it. Man, why Blacken goddamn Chase did
that in the first half, flat On saw the coverage,
he tapped it, he tapped his helmet, checked out of
the run, and they must have.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Knew what it was.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
He threw it right to Chase threw it right. I said, no,
we're gonna We're gonna be all I have. I have
one thing I want to say too. Also with that,
for all the Bengals fans that have probably watched the
night in the chat, this is why, this is why,
despite some of the things you were saying, is it's
not about Zach Taylor. It's not about the play call it.
It's all about those that on the field as executing

(12:03):
the plays that are called. And when you have a quarterback,
this is why they're paying the big bucks. Yep, we
have a quarterback. Anything is possible. Anything is possible. I
know one thing. They better not let Flack art that
goddamn room. I don't care even when Joe Burrow come back.
Do not let number sixteen get out that goddamn room.
He had it all back up from now on.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh yeah, for sure, for sure, that's why they went
and got it. They got a guy and have a
big time arm. He can throw, he can make throws,
he understands. Look, he doesn't have mobility, so you gotta
protect him. You got to do a better job of
protecting because he has limited mobility. Now, especially from the pocket.
Now you saw him run that naked on the zone,

(12:43):
read that naked. I'm not a ain't nobody, I mean
hot smell crashed down because I'm not anticipating him pulling
the ball that Joe tackle. Yeah a Fields or Lamar
Jackson or Josh Allen.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, I'm gonna be justin Herbert.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I'll be a little nervous, y'all fly, Yeah, y'all know
they ain't gonna never damn they did it stealing DB's
just go ahead and chalk this up. Don't watch it,
don't don't watch it, don't worry about don't even worry
about it. Because he gave it to everybody, everybody, and
it wasn't close. It wasn't like there was some some

(13:20):
some throws like there he threaded a needle and you
guys were right there, y'all wasn't close. Y'all wasn't close,
And just go ahead and chalk this one up a
a it happens. But for him, for for for chase,
for them. I've never seen somebody hunt the number one
dB like they hunted tonight.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, most definitely, definitely.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't get you're not even with even with with
Satan or the top corners.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
You're not supposed to hunt like that.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah. Well, actually I wouldn't even call a hunting. I
would say, most of the time during our time, during
our time when you had a great DV, most of
the time the quarterback, for some reason, they would never
go his way.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
No, he don't even take a chance.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
You don't even challenge him. For some reason. And I'm
telling you based on experience, is when we're playing against
top corners, you know, the offense, it goes away from
that individual and it almost it almost make you upset.
It almost makes you upset. But tonight, boy Flacco didn't care.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
He did not care. He did not care. I mean
he gave it to a look. Ram had a had
an off night slay. They put slay on him. They
slay you take him in the second half, slay couldn't
do anything with him. Uh, Junior Joey Porter Jr. You
have to learn how to play better without his hands.
He too touching feeling. He gets a lot, He get

(14:40):
a lot of p i s.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, you're gonna get a lot of p.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I's and you're gonna have to learn to do a
better job locate the ball.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Let the guy go. Uh, he got two p i's.
He got one on T.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Higgins, he got one on Chase and he's looking like, man,
what bro. You can't tug the guy's jersey because the
back judge is standing right there.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
He can see in the middle of the field.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, you can see all of that. And as a
defensive back, obviously, you know, playing against a T. Higgains,
playing against the Jamar Chase, some of the stuff that
you're able to get away with because of your skill
set with lesser caliber receivers, it'll work. But when you
play against your elite receivers, na, Oh, your whole game
plan has to change. Your whole game plan and the

(15:24):
way the way you play them, it has to change.
It just has to.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
The thing is Ojo, like when you play a great
receiver what you normally would get away with with a
lesser receiver, like not holding that clutching and grabbing. They're
gonna call it every time because normally Chase has probably
already gone to the officials. Now, you know they can't
guard me one or one right, so they're gonna play
a little extra attention.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
He's he's so good in space.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
You can put him outside the numbers, you can put
him in the slote, you can put him in motion.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
He's tremendous run after the catch. He's not that big,
but he he he.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Runs behind his pads, so when you run behind your pads,
you've got to tackle him. He's not gonna go down
with arm tackles or he's not afraid of contact, so
he'll run through contact.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
He reminds me he runs a lot.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Because he's his his side that he's not as big
as my brother, but he runs like my brother. He
runs like a kwam Bolden. He runs like TiO. Now
they were bigger receivers. T O is a much bigger receiver.
You know, when you see how they run, they run
like when they get the ball on it's almost like
they're running back.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Matter of fact, you know what. You know who's a
great comparison of Jamar Chase when he has a ball
in his hands as far as running behind his pass.
That damn Steve Smith who refused to go down. Yeah,
the exact same way, exact same They very strong and
because he has that running back pedigree that he played
when he was younger. Yeah, he's so good run after

(16:52):
catch ya, same with Steve Smith. They played, they played
angry with the ball. They ran angry with the ball man.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
That was.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
That was the hell of a game.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Like that was the hell of it. It was. It
was a great game really both teams.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
After look the defenses, neither defense came to play outside
of that outside oh, outside of that one sack.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I didn't even know. I thought t J. Watt was hurt.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yeah, well obviously he had, listen, ma'am, did a hell
of a job. Yeah, he had help. No offense with
the chips Chase Brown or some of the chips you
know before they went out for they went out in
the in the in the past coverage, so they did
help him a little bit. But in that fourth quarter
where t. J. Watton and Hey were were able to
get that sack on Flaco. It was one on one.
It was one on one, so that that's why he did.

(17:35):
He had, he had help. But outside of that, they
kept Flacco clean all goddamn game.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
And but you're allowed to make other players other than
sacks he had one time.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
He had he had a tackle. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Uh, his imprint has got to be on this game.
You know, if you, first of all, a non mobile quarterback,
if you don't disrupt this time, and he'll pick you apart.
That's the same things will happen with Cousins if you don't,
if you don't put pressure on Cousins, what will happen.
We've seen him throw for four hundred We've seen him
throw for five hundred yards. If you do, if you
don't disrupt, a mobile a statue a prototypical drop back quarterback,

(18:13):
and that's what flack OHI is. He's a prototypical eighties
seventies old school drop back quarterback Ojoe. He wants to
drop back, he wants to win his back foot hit.
He's gonna let it go. He wants to let it go.
He's not a guy that wants to try to buy
time and wait for guys to get open. That's not
what he's good at. He's a guy one two three,
ball's gone. One two, three, four five, ball's gone. Now,

(18:36):
most guys don't do a seven step drop because most
guys are in the shotgun.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
So they'll take a they'll.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Take a three on a hitch and throw the ball,
all four or five in the hitch and throw the ball.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
But I was I was surprised.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
I'm not surprised that Cincinnati's defense played like this because
I don't think Cincinnati's defense is very good, especially since
the best pass rusher Hendrickson without tonight jo Joe. That
being said, Steelers, I thought the Steelers were better than this.
I think they have the second most sacks coming into
the game. I think there were ten behind the Broncos.
The Broncos had thirty. I think the Steelers had twenty.

(19:09):
They got two, they got two sacks. And outside of
those sacks, Flyaco really didn't get pressure. If you don't
get pressure on a drop back quarterback with those weapons
at his disposable, at his disposal, Yeah, what do you
think is gonna happen? I just want to know what
do you think is gonna happen? You got the best
receiver in the game, and you got a guy that
if you don't disrupt him, he can pick you apart.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Well, that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
And then up to exacerbate it, Ojo, you couldn't stop
the run, so now you're at the mercy.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
You can't stop the run. They run it at will.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
I mean Jalen Warren had what Jayla Warren had, excuse me,
Chris Brown eleven carres for a Buckewey p Ryan had seven.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
For thirty one. But if you can't stop it.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
If Flacco had thirty one and forty seven three forty two,
three tubs, no turnovers, that was the difference in the
ball game. I thought the Steelers. Look, I thought the
Steelers might be going to give a death blow. That
had it fourth through one. O Joe to jumped outside
trying to do the touch push that got it. Hey,
it's funny how y'all see the Steelers move, But y'all
never see the damn Eagles move.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Set a for a field goal.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Next thing you know, they come down the field, they
get a touchdown, and now they've gotten life.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Oh Joe, you look at Oyo. What did you make
of Aaron Rodgers going off.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
When Jalen Warren, who ran a fleet flicker by accident,
lip readers think Aaron Rodgers shouted at him, what are
you doing?

Speaker 3 (20:31):
It wasn't a fleet flicker?

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yeah? Hey U. He has to he has to do that.
He has to hold the players accountable.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
What you what?

Speaker 4 (20:40):
You lost? Your your thing? I say, listen, he Aaron
has to hold the players accountable. Yes, Aaron Rodgers understands
that every play counts. Are you He he has a
standard that he that he has to buy by. He
understands everything has to be right because we're in a
close game. We need every play every player has to count.
And make that mistake you can't. You can't. And I'm

(21:03):
not saying that that that mistake cost him the game,
but that's the play that they would have needed.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
I said Chris Brown. I met Chase Brown.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Ojo, here's the thing, Ojo, when you're in a game
like this, every play matters because, okay, our defense is
not customary tonight. They're not getting off the field, they're
not getting three and outs, they're driving the ball, they're
getting points on these possessions. So every play becomes magnified,
and so you can't have a mishap like that. I'm
trying to figure out what made him think it was

(21:31):
a fleet flicker. Now, I don't know that's that's seemingly
what that's what you know, lip realers think he was uttering.
But I'm like, of all the things you could run,
I've heard people Okay, I run the wrong ride, Ojo,
I ran, I went the wrong way, but damn a
fleet flicker when no fleet flicker.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Was called little miscommunication. It happens the same way. On defense.
Both teams had had busts in the defensive coverages. The
Bengals had one, hell that the Steelers had one, And
just listen, those plays make a difference. And it's only one, two,

(22:10):
maybe three plays in an entire game that changed the
trajectory of the play. And the team that makes a
few of mistakes normally wins. And it just happened to
be yesternight true. Why who they think they're gonna get
you guys?

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Like I said, offensively, you guys are gonna be able
to put pressure on people if you jump.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Out to a lead.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Now you can play like I said, I don't think
your back end is very good, Ojo. They made some
big time plays. They made plays tonight. The guy made
a heck of a play, the one he took out
a DK hand.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Yeah, his name is DJ Turner. Say say it with me,
DJ Turner.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
DJ Turner.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
That being said, if you go look at the first interception,
it was like I don't know if Roger was trying
to throw the seven route and he overshot the seven
route or he missed the DK on the go route,
because it was like in between, you know what I'm saying,
Like the seven ran the angle in DK, but the
ball was inside, so I don't I don't know. Maybe

(23:12):
maybe the ball got away from Aaron. But this was
like offensive. If you like offensive football, lo show this
was your game tonight. This was this was your game tonight.
I mean seven combined touchdowns, almost almost six hundred yards
of passing yards, only two sacks, but the two turnovers

(23:32):
like well, like I said, one of them Rogers, it
was a bad throw.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
The other one, you know, the guy made a heck
of a play.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Aaron Rodgers passed Big Ben Roethlisberger for six most passing
yards in NFL history. Is this just regular season? That
this regular season and postseason? Okay, Tom Brady's at the
top at eighty nine two fourteen, Drew Brees his next

(23:59):
eighty thousand, three eight, Peyton Manning is third seventy one
thousand and nine forty, Brett Farvis fourth seventy one thousand,
eight thirty eight, and Aaron Rodgers now is fifth all
time with sixty four thousand, eighty nine yards with eleven
what yeah, eleven games to play. So there's a good

(24:20):
chance that he's gonna probably go could Could he get
sixty six sixty seven thousand, that's a possibility.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Could he throw for three?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I don't know if he's gonna throw for like that,
because I mean twenty three or thirty four for two
forty nine.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
So I think he'd probably be right there, because.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I think he'd be a little about probably sixty six thousand,
five hundred sixty six thousand, seven fifty something like that.
How much longer does he want to play? Look, he's
not catching Tom. He's not gonna play longer than to
catch Tom. He would have to play another another five years.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Yeah, you know, you know, he not retiring no time soon.
He's in a perfect situation. He's in a perfect situation,
And I'm not sure what would happen this year with them?
But there's no reason why you would want to leave
you in the perfect situation, Joe Flacco, I mean Joe Flacco.
Aaron Rodgers is in the perfect situation.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Is it's a great situation.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Now you got to you got a head coach that
that doesn't get in your way.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
I think he likes Arthur Smith.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Arthur Smith is gonna run the football is It's gonna
give you a lot of different formation. He likes a
lot of two tight end stuff with Briar Muth and
John new Smith who he had John new Smith when
he was in Tennessee. He did a great job as
the OC for the Tennessee Titans. You know you have DK.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
They might be in the market for another receiver.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Austin was out tonight, Ojoe, So they might be in
the market for another receiver. Uh, you know we keep
hearing rumlin that our receivers might be available. We'll see that.
No room before deadline?

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Hey, can I say something real quick? Yeah, and listen,
I'm not not trying to boaster that they're still as offense,
but if if anything continues to happen or things don't
go well with number number eleven over there, and yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well you definitely would want to get him out of
the NFC. I'm not saying they're going to trade him,
but you definitely you definitely. It ain't be no situation
where you're gonna trade him and you try to get
him out of the conference. You definitely not trade him
to anybody in the division. But if all things, I'm
gonna try to get him out of the conference. Now,
if somebody in the conference blows me away, oh yo,
I ain't got.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
No choice right right right, you know, I don't want
to sell you.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Look, it's like my neighbor, Oh yo, I don't want
to save you the car because I don't want to
come by and see my damn car every day your
drive with even though it's your car, you bought it.
But if you make me an off I can't refuse.
I'll drive right by it every day.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, but I don't think they'll do that. But I'm
just saying making their offense better. Aaron Rodgers, DK Metcalf
AJ Brown. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just
throwing out there because they've already been talking about trades,
and where there's smoke, there's fire for sure. Where the
smoke there's so the fact that it was even mentioned.
If things don't turn around for the Philadelphia Eagles, even

(27:04):
though they are winning, I think that. I think that's
something that could happen.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, oh yo, I'm gonna tell you something else I
think can happen. I think Matthew Stafford is Okay, you
got Tom Brady at one, Breeze at two, Manning at three,
Farb at four, Rogers is nine to five, big Ben
is at six, Philip Rivers at seven, Matt Ryan is
at eight, Matthew Stafford is at nine.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Dan retired.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
When he left he had all the records, most passing yards,
most attempts, most touchdowns. Matthew Stafford could be six by
the end of the year. He's at sixty one thousand
and four to thirty nine. Big Ben has sixty four
thousand and eighty eight. I think there's a great chance
when it's all said that he what year is this
for Matt Ryan, Matt Ryan, I mean Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford,

(27:49):
Matthew Stafford. I don't think he can catch Brady, but
I think I definitely think he can get the top.
I think he can get the top you're seventeen. I
can see him playing another three years. The money's too
good for him, not too.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
And not Not only is the money too good for him, and.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
He's healthy, he's in a great system.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
You got Sean mcvaigh, you got Pookah, you got Davonte,
you got Higbee, Kyrie Williams can run the football.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
And they throw the ball like crazy over there too. Yeah,
throw the ball like crazy over there, especially with Pooler
and Davonte the way they're playing right now, he can
definitely get it. And he's not he's not.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I definitely think he's at sixty one thousand. I think
he's gonna have to stay healthy, play another three years,
but I definitely think he can get in.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
The top five.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Absolutely, I definitely think you can get in the top
five because he's gonna be sixty four thousand by the
end of the year, which you can put him in
sixth places.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Now.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
I don't think he's gonna throw for enough yard to
pass Rogers because Rogers at sixty four thousand, So I'm
gonna put tack on another twenty five hundred to twenty
eight hundred for Rogers, which will put him at sixty
six thousand. Yeah, so he not gonna catch him this year.
But when it's all said and done, could I see
him getting top five?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yes? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Hey, hey, hey, I'm so happy inside, like I want
to I can tell you happy. Listen. I don't want
to talk too loud. I don't want to scream too loud.
I'm trying to keep it, you know, my voice a
little low because I'm in the hotel. I don't want
to have security knocking on my dough. But we have
a great chance. We have a great chance offensively. Now, defense,
we don't need to be top five. I say this

(29:28):
all the time. Please find a way to meet this halfway.
Find a way to me this halfway be maybe sixteen
or fifteen, or or ranked seventeen some somewhere around there.
And allow the offense to cook, allow us to put
up points. We score thirty to night. If we can
get back where we're going, thirty to thirty points a game.
And defense, you just just show up, Just give us something,
give us a stop here or stop there. We will

(29:50):
be okay.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Oh the broadcast tonight, Oh Jo, They said Joe Burrow
is on track to return from turf toe in mid December.
Question is can Flack or keep the Bengals afloat until
he returns? Okay, they get the Jets at home, they
get the Bears at home. Then they're at the Steelers,
Patriots at home at Ravens, at Bill's Ravens home at Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Hey we go. We can run the gauntlet. We could
run the garnlet the only, the only, the only game
where it's gonna be really good. I really can't tell
you who's gonna win when we play the Patriots. But
the Patriots nice. Yeah, the Patriots are nice. They not Bills.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Will be tough for you guys in in uh in Buffalo.
They'll be tough. Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah, that's another game where we have to play the
Steelers again.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
That's the question is before you go ahead it for
other is Lamar gonna be back when he played these games?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
All right?

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Even if Lamar is back, the backend is horrible, the
defense is horrible. So he's going to have to match
us offensively.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
And we seen him do that last year.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Remember, yeah, this this is not this is not last year.
This is not that. This is a new year.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
You're talking, check y'all, you talking do y'all. See, I
owe your talking. He get real reckless. He can't real
recklessly with one game.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
I'm being nice. I'm being nice.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Now you being nice?

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, this is this is one game. But look at
how look at the look at them.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
In the You know Chicago is gonna be no easy win?

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Now why Chicago can't do nothing else?

Speaker 3 (31:23):
On d oh Chicago e win?

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Now? Hold on stop, hey, hold on, stay stay right there,
stay stay with me real quick. Chicago's defense could not
do anything with us offensively. They can't do nothing with else.
And I mean that with all due respect. Now, like
what Kayler Williams has done. I love the creativity.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Have been on the team.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
U huh.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
And they got some nice receivers. They got Dj Moore,
they got Roma dooms that they got burned.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know, but
but let's let's slim it down a little bit. Hey,
it's about It's about who the nation right now?

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Hey, jack boy, he boy, he he oh. Was look
at it.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Hey, we got the Jets. When we play the Jets,
when we play the.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Jets a week from Sunday, the twenty sixth.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, but we're gonna listen. They just gonna be on
but on.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Uh and y'all got guess what y'all got him at home?
Y'all got y'all got three games in the row at home.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Matter of fact, I'm gonna come back. I'm coming back
that one because I think I was a good luck
charm tonight. I'm coming back next week.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Oh you're the good luck charm.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
I was a good luck charm. I'm coming back next week.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
But look, they got a very favorable schedule. Like you said,
the Patriots is not gonna be easy. When Lamark's supposed
to be back, well, he'll definitely be back. That's the
twenty seventh. That's a that's a five twenty, So that
gotta be a Sunday game. That's a Sunday night game,
five twenty.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yeah, yes, sir, Who they? Who they?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Who?

Speaker 4 (32:50):
They think they're gonna beat them bangles.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
The Oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Earlier today, Michael sounded off on how he's how he's
a fewitiated in refs in general, Let's take a listen
to what Micah had to say.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
You know, five years is not getting call. You'll eventually
start worrying about it, you know. But you know, I
think I just gotta keep going. That's just that's the hunt. Yeah,
like that's part of the challenges, Like you.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
Just gotta keep going, and that's bothersome that that worries them.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
They know that, like that's the part of being one
of the best.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
You know that comes with uh some territory where the
parts that you hate and the parts that the league
let's go.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Like they know, Like I mean, you can tell how
they call the games.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
They don't call outsides for offense, but they'll call on defense.
They'll they won't call offensive passing offerens, but they'll call
defensive passing offerens. I mean, like we know what you're
trying to do. They want to load the points up
so fans can be happy, and you know what I mean,
they'll call defensive holding, but they won't call off into holding,
like like let's just wake up. Like it's just one
of those things that we know what the higher ups

(33:59):
is trying to do. Like the rough would say, I
know that's a whole, but what like you're not gonna
call it, like come on, Like it's just one of
those things that like I'm over and I would just
have to keep going.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Push to.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Ojo he knows.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
He's like, you know what, I should stop that, I
shouldn't say anymore. But he can't help himself. Now, chat,
you tell me the great defensive player, the great defensive player.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I don't if you're my age.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Let's just say you between between the ages of sixty
and twenty five. Tell me the great defensive player. And
we believe Michael Parsons is a great defensive player. That
you've heard them complain about being held. The Lts, the
Reggie Wife, the Bruce Smith of the Derek Thomas rest
Is Soul, the Von Miller's, the Aaron Donalds, the JJ Watts.

(34:54):
Tell me the great defensive player that you've heard have
a microphone get up on the platform and complain that
they're not getting calls.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah, you can't do that. You can't do that as
a player. I mean, I'm thinking about I'm thinking about
myself as a receiver. I ain't complaining about no holding
because I'm getting Hell, that's my fault, that's my pluck.
Michael Parsons is too good, he's too great at his position.
He's too grated what he does. And obviously, on the
on the other thing, on the other on the flip
side of things. Referees are graded. Those referees want to

(35:25):
be able to call that super Bowl, so the.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Better layoff super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Absolutely listen, that's a check. That's money for them. So
they want to make as many calls as possible based
on what they can see with the naked eye. Do
they miss some calls some time, of course, it's human error.
It happens. But they want to grade as high as
possible so they can be in those playoff games. So
they can so their team as a unit can be

(35:48):
in the super Bowl. They're graded so they're not just
missing calls on purpose, but also as a player. A
player of your magnitude, now you should worry about that.
If you get in hell, that's on you.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I don't think I ever, I don't think i've ever
and I could be wrong, but and my memory is
pretty good. I think I can have great recall. I
don't think I've ever publicly complained. Man, they was holding
all game and they ain't call it. May they been
hauling me all year. I'm gonna play through that. You
call it, you call it. That ain't my job because

(36:20):
to see if I'm because what's gonna happen, I'm all
of a sudden start worring about the calls. They're gonna
throw the ball and go beat me up, hit me
all in the chants, all upside the head. And then
what then people gonna be like, was he holding on
that one? Or did you or did you just drop it?
Don't complain? Bro, Michael, you too good, way too good.
You're way too good for this, and it's not so.

(36:42):
Guess what now, o Joe. I'm gonna keep Hey, I'm
gonna keep my pocket sold in my pocket not I
hate for to pull it out. You trying to put
us on blast. Michael, you you, Michael, you too good?
If you want to be thought of, it's one of
these greats. I mean, let's just take your error. Miles Garrett,
ain't call it. Ain't complaining in TJ. Why they ain't complaining?

(37:04):
These guys ain't complaining. Michael, you're too good. Who cares
about what they're doing with the touch push? You're not
there when you have to defend it, then you worry
about that you don't have to defend it.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
They don't listen. They don't.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
First of all, they're not listening to players. First of all,
you're not a quarterback. They listen to nothing. You gotta say,
they only listening to quarterbacks. That's why they change the rules.
That's why they let them have the balls. It used
to you get one day, Now to get the balls
for the whole week. Now you can't hit the quarterback
in the head. Now you can't hit the quarterback in
the need. You can't tackle them in below the waves
in the pocket. They listen to quarterbacks. They don't listen
to other players. Because they did, they wouldn't have the rules,

(37:39):
but they have. That's weighted against the defense. Well, come on,
Michael Man, you gotta stop this, bro.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
And the funny thing about it is the game now
in this error is changed. It's handicap, its handicapped for
is handicapped, and the way in favor of the offense.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
You already know that it's the deepest player. Just continue
to play, play through contact, play through the holes. Those
calls are gonna come. They're gonna they're gonna come. Don't
even don't even worry about it. Just continue to play
as well as you always do.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Play to what we know you can do being one
of the best at your position. There's the reason why
you paid as much as you are.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Oh Joe, what you do is that you have your coat,
you have your your video department, cut it up, the
holding calls hand, your head coach to send it in.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
That's what you do.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Hey, I'm gonna take it out of my hands, but
half the video department. That's what everybody else does. I
guarantee you, that's what the Steelers does. That's what the
Cleveland Browns does. Anybody that has their pass rusher, this
is what they do.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Okay. If I got a good if I got a
good receiver.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
And I believe he's getting hell, I'll go to I'll
cut it up and I'll send it to the official.
Here are the plays that we believe he was held
in this game. These are the plays that we believe
the guy got outside. These are the plays. That's what
you do. But you because people gonna look at you.
It's like you complain it like the reason why because
now I think he got one sack, maybe two sacks,

(39:04):
And people are like, oh, you're making forty seven million
dollars a year and here we are six games in
and you got one sack, you got two sacks. Yeah,
it's gonna look like you're complaining. And I don't think
Michael is a complainer. I know he's frustrated because when
you get that kind of big money, Oh Joe, you
know you've gotten paid. The one thing you want to do,
you want to go show the world why they paid
you the big dollars. And I ain't tried. I ain't

(39:27):
tried it. Like, hey, the moment I get that money,
oh man, o Jo got paid.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, let me go.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Let me go out here and drop me by the
one fifty and two to the oh quick, let him
know why they paid me.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Hey, quicken than hurt and don't hit, and don't care
who out there, and don't care who holding. If I
get here, it's my phone.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
I ain't doing it right, yep uh. And that's how
that's how Mike is gonna have to look at it.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
But I think the thing is that when you do
it something like this, people are gonna look at you.
It is like man, Michael wine and he's complaining the
other and the other team's like, hey, hold it, make
them call it, make them call it God. And then
all he's gonna do is get He's gonna get more
and more frustrated. So just play through at Michael, you
you're you're too good of a player to let stuff

(40:10):
like this. I get it. I know you're frustrated. First
of all, I don't believe, Michael, I don't believe. This
is what This is how you This is why you
gotta be careful with what you say. Because when things
weren't going his way where he said, he tweeted he
wanted to he wanted to get traded. He put on
X he wanted to get traded.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
I no longer want.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
To be a cowboy, he said. He said that on
Joe a lot of time. We said all the time, Mojoe,
with emotion, this is our logic is low, be careful.
There's power in the tongue. Yeah, yeah, he said he wanted.
That's not what he really wanted. He wanted to put
the pressure on the cowboys. But you had already backed
Jerry in the corner. Jerry wasn't backing down. You had

(40:49):
already you already you already had backed the man in
the corner.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
He felt he had a handshake deal. And now you
come in and this is I'm just telling you what
Jerry felt. Jerry is a man. First of all, you
know how people empower, people in position of power, people
to have money.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
They backing down.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
Then hold on, you're not Finna bully. You're not Finna bully.
Not many owners, oh nothing, not many owners. Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
No, no, So that's where that's where they that's that's
that's what happened. But Michael, just keep playing, there'll come.
You understand. Sacks are like sacks are like bananas and
great they come in bunches. Oh yeah, Hey, you might go,
oh Joe, you might go a game or two and
not get any and then you'll go three games where
you half six yep.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
And the next day, you know, you're like, you look
up like, damn, Mike, I.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Got seven sacks that fast. And that's just how it happened.
It always happens like that. Yes, it happens like that. Hell,
sometimes you're going to get your Hey, un, I go
two for thirty five, I go four for sixty damn man,
man in one game, man shoot eleven two sixty six

(41:58):
for one? What God? Then what happened?

Speaker 3 (42:01):
There? You go?

Speaker 6 (42:02):
And it matter of fact, look at Chase two weeks ago,
forty yards yep, look at the past two weeks.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
It's the nature of the business. It's the nature of
the game. It always happened like that. You're not gonna
go crazy every week, no matter how great you are.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
No no, no, no, no, no no no, but it gonna
you know, I mean, but here is the thing, Chase
Chase crazy sixteen he's uh his his good sense.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
He gets nine. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
You look at him again the Green Bay he had nine,
Like damn, we slowed it down. Now you pop off
with sixteen. He got twenty five catches in two games.
So where he was You're like, damn, hey, Chase, say
winning no troop of crowd this year? You sure about that?
Are you sure?

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Because popped?

Speaker 4 (42:55):
I forgive It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. What had weapons.
When you get a quarterback forty years old, fifty years old,
if you can throw and sling the ball and they
can keep up right so you can deliver said ball,
this is what you get. And it's not easy because
we had Jake Browning, but think what hell he should

(43:18):
be able to do it. No, now you take Joe
Flacco who got vinsed in Cleveland, and you put him
here at the Bengals offense with elite talent around him
at the receiver position, a decent running back, an officer
line that everybody been talking trash about, and they play.
They play their part.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
We are gonna win.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Everything starts up front. Everything.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Look, do your job, whatever your job is, whatever your job,
whatever is required you to do. To do your job,
that's what you gotta do. Don't worry. I'm not working.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
I'm not worried about the offensive line because that ain't
my job right now. When it comes my time, I
got a pass block, now, I got a worry about it. Okay,
what we got? Who am I Gilligan? I'm on an island?
Where am I? Where am I protected?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
At? Sharpy?

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I got you inside so I can sit heavy outside
knowing I got help inside. If I ain't got no
help inside, I gotta sit down inside and then hopefully
I can run his ass by the quarterback the quarterback
and step up. But you just got to do your job.
I can't worry about it. I can't worry about what
the safety doing, and what the linebacker doing, and what
the DN doing on Joe. I gotta worry about what
aight foe doing because at the end of the day,

(44:28):
I'm getting graded. I'm getting graded on what I'm doing,
not whether or not worried about what somebody else is doing.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Ceede.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Lamb sat out the past three games with a high
ankle spray. Today, he said he could have played last
week against the Panthers, but he sat another week so
he could be fully healthy without limitations. He will not
be on a pitch count against the Commanders. I feel
like I'm moving around, running around, being me happy as
I can be. Obviously, just believing in my ankle. Obviously,
I feel like it's back to where I need it

(44:57):
to be.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
O Joe, what you think? Talk to me.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
I'm excited. I'm excited the fact that he said and
him knowing his body. I could have came back last week,
but I want to wait one more week to make
sure I don't have to worry about nothing. I don't
have to worry about nothing. So for me, that makes
that offense in Dallas even that much more scarier. And
you know what's gonna happen is hell. Chase got how

(45:21):
many targets you got to night?

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Chase? Eighteen targets?

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Eighteen targets? Now, don't he got.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
His hands on all eighteen of them? It would last
without a bus or he have no chance. He literally
got his hand on all eighteen. People don't realize how
hard that is to have that many targets and to
actually put your hands on all eighteen eighteen.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Yeah, most definitely. I wouldn't be surprised if the getting
back on track after missing three games. I won't be
surprised if if goddamn CD had fifteen targets next week,
I won't be surprised at all. I won't be surprised
at all at all. And listen, and honestly, I told
I told Cee. I didn't even when he got her.
I said, listen, I can have you back in the week, right,

(46:05):
I can have you back in the week.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
But he would look looking at the like when he
did that, looking at it, I said, man, that's three weeks.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, Hey.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
That thing, Oh let me take that back. Chase had
twenty three targets.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Oh, Yoe, twenty three.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Twenty three targets. I think the most I've ever had
Ojoe was like fifteen.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Hey, I don't I can't even tell you that.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
But I don't think we track targets like they do now.
I don't think I'm just saying. You know, you go
back and look at the films, and you know they
throw the ball over your head, that's a target. He
throw the ball fifteen feet over my damn head and
out of bounds. That's a target. I mean, if you
was a sniper and I was your target and you

(46:51):
shot like that, people go like, nah, that wasn't No,
you off target.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
And that's another thing I like about Flag O two
is he makes every ball count, makes every ball count
because every ball he throws, he gonna give you a
chance to get it. Yeah, you're gonna give you a
chance to get it.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
I guess they count targets when they throw the ball
at these p I so anything that comes your way, yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
They count that too. Okay, okay, of course mag Oho.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Can you imagine what you could have done with twenty
plus targets.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Right man? Is impossible? I mean I'm just thinking, I'm
thinking it would only be possible in this era.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it would only.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Be possible in this era.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I wonder when when t O caught twenty passes. I
wonder how many targets he had. Yeah, Marshall has the record,
he has twenty one. So if you catch twenty balls, oho,
you gotta have you got at least twenty three, twenty four,
maybe even twenty five targets.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
Hey, matter of fact, you know how many yards I
would have? You got to think I average maybe maybe
six yards a game, six maybe seven catches a game
if that, but mine were always.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Now, you ain't gonna have that many catches cause you
ever had one hundred catch season. No, hell no, that's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
So if you average six six catches a game in
sixteen games, that's ninety six catches.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
What's the most catcher you had in the season?

Speaker 4 (48:11):
About right there by ninety six? Okay, but I was
I was a yardage monster because everything I caught was
ten fifteen.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Yeah, that's how it was.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Oh y'all yeah yeah, I mean I have eleven hundred
yards and three touchdown and then somebody else got four
hundred yards and they got six. I'm like, man, thron't
we something? But we got close to the gold line.
TV gonna run that end. We're not throwing the ball
unless it's thirty something. But other than that, man, he
get that pay TV running that in.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
It's amazing, man, Just the era of the era of
football that we're in now, and they rowed the ball
so much. Damn I can only wish.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Oh Joe Dak Prescott said he plays to speak with
Jared Jones about the importance of keeping George Pickens with
the Cowboys beyond this season. I've been a little busy,
but I will when I run into him and that
time of privacy, I'll make sure. But here's the thing, though,
Jack running in, Okay, you want to keep him, are
you willing to take less than your sixty million? Because okay,

(49:13):
you got sixty. George Pickens is gonna want max dollars.
He's like, because this is his first body of the apple,
He's gonna say that You've had three bites at the apple.
I've never had a big body of the apple. And
I'm gonna take as bigger bite as I possibly. As
a matter of fact, I might be a horse. I
might eat the whole damn apple. Now a bite. I
want to hold damn apple. So that's the question. You know,

(49:36):
you want all these great players. That's what Brady did,
usually what Mahomes is doing. The question is are you
willing to take a little haircut. I'm not saying you
gotta give him twenty million. But I'm saying, are you
willing to take say, if you can get sixty three
sixty four million, are you willing to take fifty fifty
seven so George Pickens can get his thirty because he's

(49:57):
gonna want somewhere between thirty.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Two and thirty six million dollars.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
That's what George Picking's gonna want because he's see what
DK got, He's seen what all He's see what Terry
McLaurin got. And I guarantee you George Pickens believe he's
every bit as good as DK Medcalf and Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
He is, he is. And I'm not sure Dak is
de pinning depinning. I'm not sure Dak has already got
his money already.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Oh he Uh, Dak got one more year on that
contract or the up. But I think he had a
monster cap number. He think he got like something like
eighty million in cap.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Yeah, Dak didn't got fake. I don't, I don't. I
don't see him doing that. I would like I would
like him to allow to allow pick.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
What's his what's his cap number? Next year?

Speaker 4 (50:44):
Dak?

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, they got to do something with that his cap
here to seventy four million. Know, Joe, you got to
redo that deal. Damn you got to redo that in
sixty eight, Bro, you got to do Oh you definitely,
they definitely, they definitely, they're definitely going to.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Redo that deal. They're not gonna let that man play.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
But what do you think, though, do you think that
will take less to be able to keep pick?

Speaker 1 (51:17):
That's what that's Jerry. That's what Jarry's gonna ask him.
You mean, excuse me, yes, that that's what Jarry's gonna
ask that. Are you willing to take less so we
can ensure we can put better players around you? If
Patrick Mahomes doesn't do what he does, You're not able
to keep Chris Jones.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
You're not able.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
You're not You're not able to keep the Travis Kelsey
and keep it together Coloftus, Hey, they're gonna have to
do something with Trip McDuffie.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Oh ay, Trent nice On.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Yes, So you're able to keep all these pieces together.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Because you got Creed Humphrey on a big deal, You
got your want your right tackle. Now you hit it
out the park because your left side looks really good.
The left tackle. Simmons even the guy that came the
backup did an extremely great job the other night. But
you have to you have to, uh, you got to

(52:16):
give up something on Joe. It's really it's really that simple.
The question is when we had growing up, financially we struggle.
My grandma said, boy, what's gonna be this month?

Speaker 4 (52:27):
The phone, the light of the gas?

Speaker 3 (52:31):
I can't pay them all? Son. I mean, it's really
that simple.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Hey, you need the phone in case, we got to
call somebody, the lights so you can do your homework,
or you and your brother gonna have to go down
there and chart and chop wood. We pulled that, we
pulled our heat away from the fireplace. Ay, and we
go cut down a tree.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
We pay. It's really that simple.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
So that what you want, you want to be the
highest paid, want to back, or you want to be
sixth or seventh and have have talent around you to
help you because guess what, o Joe, you need some
defensive help too.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. But I think me honestly allowed
Pick to go get his thing, allowed allowed Pick to
go get what he deserving of. And I don't think
Jerry's is gonna open up his pocketbook like that. And
cut the check that he in deserving of getting.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Oh you his agent is the same guy that represented
uh Michael Parsons.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Oh yeah, David mu Legata.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Yeah, we're gonna, were gonna, were gonna let pick going.
We need we need to go and get his money
over there in Las Vegas. Over there, Las Vegas, they'll pay.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Now, the question is, you know, Ojo, Normally, when you
go in free agency, everybody don't have the luxury like.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
A AJ Brown.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
AJ went from tennis See to Philly, so a team
that was perennial in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
You know, he went there. Normally, in free.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Agency to go get big bucks, you generally have to
go somewhere and oyo this they they they ain't on
the come.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
Yeah, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
But the question is, Ojo?

Speaker 1 (54:20):
The question again, hmmm, thirty five, thirty six million, probably
seventy five eighty millions guaranteed.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
I see you in the Vegas. Hey, I see you.
I see you in Vegas. Everybody got theirs. It's my
turn I do.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
But this is what I do. Hope, Ojo. I'm hoping
they don't do this tagging, correct. I just oh yo,
I just got I've tried to prepare you for everything
because I already know you're gonna flip out. So I'm
just going to prepare you. What's today, The day is
the sixteen, Thursday, the sixteen. I'm just prepared that oo dada.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Hey listen, I hear you. I understand you preparing. But
let's not play that game. Let's not play that game
because if you tagging me, let me know, you don't
value me, you don't think I'm worth what I can
get on the open market. Don't tag me, don't do that.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
That's what I ay. I'm a firm believer in that. Oyo,
hold on, let's see what I'm worth. You don't think
I'm worth I'm asking for let me go.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
And you know, and Jerry has had that conversation with
a lot of players here. We're gonna let you go.
We're gonna let you explore the open market and come
back and tell us what they think of.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Very a few times when you let a guy because
the team's gonna overbe it for him because they already
know what I gotta do. Now, first of all, it
might be a little easier because it's gonna be harder
for them Dallas to if they let him test the
open market, it's gonna be harder because Pick doesn't have
an attachment to Dallas. He's only there for a year,

(55:54):
so he might be viewing it as a rental ojo
and I'm staying in this rental property. I'm gonna still
getting a house. They got these they got these apartments
that's already.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Furnished, furnished.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Yeah, hey, listen.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
So he's not entrenched in the community. He hasn't been
there for four or five years. I don't know if
he's married or have a fiance or girlfriend or whatever
the case may be. But he doesn't. I don't know
if he has that there. I don't know if he
has kids there. So he's not entrenched like somebody that's
been there six or seven years.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
So it's easier.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
It's a it's the least with the option to buy.
It's the least with the option to buy. And I
prefer in that lease and going somewhere where you can
get what you deserve, like every other receiver at your
position has everybody Oh yeah, for sure, and you deserve
to be paid like a number one. Now that the
Cowboys already have a number of receiver and The one

(56:50):
thing that they're gonna say upstairs over there with in
Jerry's world, is well, we already paid ceedee lamb x
amount of dollars. We don't view you as such because
we already have a number one. We're already have a
number one. You already the game.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
But it would be hard oo because of what they
gave it.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
What they give him a third round pick for a
pick or fourth to get to give that up for
him and then and and just basically keep him as
a rental for a year. So that's why I think
Jerry might be more apt to sign him. Jerry loves offense.
So if if if, if, if a player was to

(57:27):
get some money, they gave a third in the fifth,
and that's the next year's draft, because he was signed,
they traded for him after the draft, so he gave
a third in the fifth in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Okay, then you got to think, then you have to
think it all comes to Dak as well. What is
Dak willing to do? How much less is Dak willing
to that's the thing not to take so they can
sign pick and then defense you need defensive players.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
You do.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
The question is oah, if you got in friends and
you know you got to overpay. Do you believe you
can hit it in the Do you believe you can
hit it in the draft market? You believe you can
draft the guy? Or because you got your first rounders.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
You're not fin the draft though, But who you gonna
draft it gonna make it make a difference. You need
a statement piece on that defense. Listen, when you put
your clothes on, When you put your clothes on, this
for everybody in the chat. When you put your clothes on.
I know, I know it's some women and now I
know some fellas in here too. When you put your
clothes on, you got to have one thing that stands
out that's a statement piece. How does Cowboys defense needs

(58:33):
a statement piece?

Speaker 3 (58:34):
I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
It could be a d tackle, it could be a corn,
it could be a safety. But you got you needed
your statement piece. Gone over there to drink.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
I an't know about you, O Joe, and I put
my clothes on. I'm a statement.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Yeah, I mean, I mean if you ain't, I feel
I'm saying, yes, I got nice jewelry, I got access.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
Right right, right right. But listen, when a woman, when
a woman gets dressed right, Yes, woman gets pressed. There
are two things that make that that that for her,
that is the statement piece. Is either your bag or
is she or your heels one of the other. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
what you're wearing that you're right?

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Oh yo you oh Joe, you ain't wrong when you're right.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
Yeah, talk to me now.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
I'm just saying I can't talk to you like I
wan to twenty six. I'm gonna talk to you in
twenty six right now about probation. I'm still on probation, Joe,
twenty six. Y'all up, back up, back, I Hey, my
probation officer, he'd be checking in. He'd be watching this showy,
you know, every time to time he like, okay, you
know I'm gonna have to write you up.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
Yeah, okay, you're good.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeah, twenty six. You know I had to do you
I got to do it. Had to do like like
twelve months, right, twelve Yeah, I had to do twelve
months probation.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
All right, Well how long we got what we got?
What were in October?

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Yeah, yeah, probly round probably like April May twenty six.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Like a scout, I'm out like a scout on a
new route.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
But hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You
ain't got to wait that long though. You know why
you ain't gotta wait that long. While we listen when
New Years, when that ball drop on New Year's ball drop,
when the ball drop, you good to go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
You know why they left what it said?

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
Oh listen, they letting you off for good time serves a.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Good time, Yeah, they say, they say, they'll give me
three days for every.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Good day I've been good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
It's like the fans got the fab give you like
fifty four days for every.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Year, for every year you serve.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Hey, just say so, Hey, hey, Jerry twenty six January first, Man,
you're good to go. Man, We're back to normal.