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Seahawks are the number one seed and they win the NFCED.
(02:46):
They give two birds with one stone. They go on
the road and take down a very red hot San
Francisco forty nine er team by the score of thirteen
to three. Their defense's outstanding. We can't reiterate that enough.
There's not enough adjective to describe what this defense did
tonight to a very hot and a very good forty
(03:08):
nine offense. They made brock brother I mean he threw
four hundred and twenty seven yards. They had less than
they had one hundred and eighty yards of total offense
in their own building. Christian McCaffery had twenty three rush
yards and thirty four receiving yards. Sam Darnald was twenty
of twenty six, one ninety eight, zero touchdown, zero interceptions.
(03:30):
They ran the ball extremely well, thirty nine rush attempts
one hundred and eighty yards and a touchdown. Jackson Smith
and jigbut six ketches one hundred and eighty four yards.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I think he would well, he's over eighteen hundred, O joe.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
He should might be over nineteen hunty by now, Yeah,
you should be.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And only three guys in the history of the NFL
have ever had at least nineteen hundred yards receiving He's
one of them, Cooper Cup and obviously Calvin Johnson who
has the record. But Seattle was impressive tonight, o' joe.
What did you like about? What did you like most
about what you saw?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
From?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
What I like most about what I saw from the
Seahawks is for one, Sam Donald, he didn't do what
it has always harmed him, especially last year in the playoffs,
in important games and important situations, he turned the ball over.
He'd been turnover prone towards the end of the season
this year as well.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
But this game. He was clean.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
But I want to give Mike McDonald, I don't know
what kind of speech he had before the game for
that defense to play that way they played the night,
but they did. They They had every answer for everything.
The forty nine ers wanted to run offensively. I've never
seen It's happened very few times where he's seen a
forty nine Ers offense get shut out like this Christian McCaffrey,
who's able to do so much offensive for them because
(04:40):
they can put him in so many positions to make
plays and find the mismatches for him.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
They played it extremely well all night long. Obviously, brock
Perty turned the ball over one time.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Christom McCaffrey, who's always had your hands, he let one
get away from him and turn the ball over.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
He the guy tip.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
They kind of threw it off ballots, but it looked
like semac wanted to do something like he wanted to.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
But other than that, man, this was a beautiful game.
Very low scoring.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Obviously, if you offered the type of guy like myself,
you want to see more points scored and you want
to see the Seahawks take advantage of some of those
some of those outings that they had, including the one
where they got an interception, but they weren't able to
do anything with it.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Forty nine and defense.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Played well as well, but they couldn't get anything going
offensively at all.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Well, I thought the difference in the ball game look
from a sea out of perspective. You mentioned Sam Donald
did not put the ball in harm's way. Yeah, he's
thrown twenty six touchdowns, but he has twenty turnovers, and
if you go back and look at them, the games
that they lost turnovers was heavily involved.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Now, they did win a game.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I think they won a game against who with the
rams where they turned the ball over a bunch and
they still was able to win the ball game. But
if you look at his history, when he turns the
ball over, there's a great chance that his team's gonna
lose the game. But this defense is playing so well.
They played a lot of coming to tonight because they
believe they can stop. They believe that they can stop
their running game with that front four. Say we got seven,
(06:13):
we don't need to do anything special, and then you
know they were thrown you know, and they got after
him with that front four. I thought d laudnem I
thought those guys played really, really well the receiving, the
dB stuck to the receiver, Low Show and Ernie Jones,
the fourth and the rest of the crew. They did
a great job of neutralizing the run, putting enough pressure
on brock Perty where he couldn't get comfortable. And then
the longest completion the night, O Joe, George Kittle. The
(06:38):
longest completion the night was twenty yards. They only had
one hundred and twenty seven yards, O twenty seven.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Past was the Kittle right on the Kittle?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yes, yes, yes, watching Seattle, you know obviously you know
watching them. I probably watched them probably about four or
five times this year, O Joe. Their defense is better
than advertising. And if you remember, O Yo, the last
time the Ravens defense been good, he coordinated it. The
head coach of the Seahawks coordinated. Remember they lost the
(07:08):
championship game. I think they lost to what fourteen thirteen,
fourteen ten, something like that, and then he ends up
getting out of there and he gets the head coaching
job at Seattle. That was the last time the Ravens
defense looked competent. Yeah, if they played Ocho. Based on
what I've seen on every team in the AFC. Now,
you know, any given Sunday, anything, any given Sunday, any
(07:29):
given satdaything could happen. But if the Seahawks play like this,
there ain't a team in NF he could beat them,
Not the Eagles, not the Rams, not the forty nine ers,
not Carolina, Tampa. Now, if I'm Sam frand I'm not
that disappointed, whoever, the Five Seas should be jumping over
joy because you're gonna get Tampa, you're gonna get Carolina,
and you avoid, You're gonna avoid properly, You're gonna avoid.
(07:51):
I'm not so sure anybody's really afraid of the Eagles
as much as the maybe last year, but they haven't
been clicking on anything. They hadn't looked really this year.
But if the Seahawks play like this, you're gonna catch
hell going to Seattle with the twelfth Man. Like I said, now,
I'm saying they play like this. That means Sam Donald
(08:12):
doesn't turn the ball over. He turns the ball over
offense off because you can end up somebody getting the
school and score on a pick six, or you sit
them up on a short field. Excuse me, Chad, but
if you have to drive the ball on this with
those two corners and those balls, I don't see it.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I don't not happen at all with I don't see
And we were talked about, we talked about that front four,
the first level. They got damn back in playing well too.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
They got wall, they got.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Uh Tom look uh uh Josh, Joe, Look, they got
guys that look it's it's hard to explain, o Joe,
but just looking at them, the fundamental sound whatever. Wherever
you catch the ball at they normally get you down
there and they come in to hurry. They do a
lot of game tackling. There ain't no a lot of
one on one he the D line A they see
(09:04):
the ball throwing, they turning and go yep. This was
impressive tonight to go on the road and beat a
team that's been as hot as the forty nine ers
has been. Hold on, let me put up some stats
on your right quick. Let me see what this thing.
Because they did a job.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
The forty nine ers had nine first downs on yo
as it, there were two or nine on third down.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
They were down yeah downs.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
They had one hundred and seventy three total yards time
of possession thirty seven almost thirty eight minutes to.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Twenty two minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's crazy, uh had and this game really shouldn't have
been close. No, they was all three in the red zone.
They missed the field goal, and and and they had
the center for field goals. But I they were down,
then they should have could have got points oute of
those give the forty. But I was surprised. What I
was really surprised by. One of the things that I
(10:07):
that let me know what you think, is that how
well Seattle ran the ball against the forty nine ers. Oh,
your thirty seventeen and you run a hand off and
you can get up in.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Nineteen Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Kenneth walking up because you know, you know what, it's
third down, right, thirty seventeen. Most of the time you
want to play it safe. I'm sure in that situation
they should have known it was gonna be a run.
That should have it was gonna be a draw, some
type of handoff.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
In general, I.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Mean, yes, they backed up.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Why are you backed up?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Why are you playing the past, especially in that situation,
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
And Kenneth, and but you got Seattle backed up, so
you know, and and it's not like they totally trust it,
because like, okay, let's say let's just run the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Hey do something, you do something EASi, yes, yes, yes, I.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Mean listen, I don't I don't understand how that even worked.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Brock Perty did not have his finest hour tonight. He
had been playing extremely well. And I'm not, you know,
like I said, this one game. Based on the body
of work, I think he's shown that he's more than capable,
more than a competent. He went to an NFC championship game,
he took a team to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
He kind of got it.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Been beat up a little bit since then, But I
don't I don't really have any major concerns about him.
It was just that this was a total This was
more so what Seattle did do, not so much of
what the forty nine ers didn't do. I think sometimes Ocha,
we get caught up like, oh my goodness, I can't
believe they did that. Where they weren't going seven on seven,
they weren't going against themselves, they weren't going against air.
(11:42):
They was going against a very competent defense, a team
that can get after you what they're front for. They're
really solid on the back ends. Ernest Jones Junior, excuse me, junior.
The fourth is a tackling machine. They got. They fly
around to the football. This is a very good team,
a very well coached team that's put together. John Snyder
probably doesn't get enough credit, but you look at what
(12:04):
they have a lot of these guys are they drafted
these guys. Now, they did sign d Law, They did
make the trade for big Leonard Williams.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
They got Erniet Jones basically for little or nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Ah, but he's been that make the trade for Shaheed
that really broke the game over. He was the guy
that flipped the flipped the script when they was playing
at home against the Rams, because he's the one that
got them started with that punt return and then he
catches a big a jail break screen and get going
out the house, out of the house. But I was shocked.
(12:36):
I was shocked how how Seattle made the forty nine
ers look, because I think the forty nine ers I've
never seen. It was like Kyle was like just going
up and down that call. She's trying to find something.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
To work actually, and it seemed like everything he calls
McDonald and that defense they had answer for it.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Every God answer for it. So what you're thinking, who you?
Who do you? Who do you?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I mean, look the Rams, forty nine ers, Seahawks, we
know they're in. It's gonna be either Carolina or it's
gonna be uh Tampa. And then you look at the
NFC East, it's uh the Eagles, and it's.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Gonna be Green Bay Chicago.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
H I just it's just hard for me to see
a scenario with someone like I said, now you turn
the ball over the playoffs all best off. I don't
give it down who you are, but just looking at
the teams and the way they played thus far, Seattle's.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Defenses outstanding, amazing, and.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You're gonna have to go there to beat them.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
You're gonna have to go there. It's gonna be a
tough task.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
They're gonna be a tall tag, especially not only forget
the defense, forget the offense.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Having to deal with that crowd. You can't hear nothing
in that stadium, right, and.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They got uh and jig Ba, Who's a matchup nightmare.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I don't care who your corners are, So don't get
Mitchell and John. They're not seeing this dude, one on one.
They don't like to play a whole lot of one
of them. They believe they can stop your run with
their front floor forward. They like to play that. They will,
they will play coverage, they will play cover one, they
will play there go man. But just man, Joe cat quick.
(14:25):
He is, I mean, he is super duper quick, and
you bet you better get both hands on him because
if you don't.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
It's a rap. And the funny thing about it is he.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Got your wallet and gone.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
He's not a speed burner. He's not a speed burner,
but he's joke fast and not that he's quick, and
then he knows. He's an elite route runner, elite route
runner and very very good to manipulate whatever is in
front of him. Make sure he creates separation.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, he's and he's he's unbelievable. That that it's gonna be.
It's gonna be interesting to see because if you think
about it, the Eagles really haven't running the ball all year.
Chicago has one of the best rushing attacks. We'll see
what they can do with that. But the question is, uh,
we know Seattle has home. Uh, So that means Chicago
(15:22):
will be the two seed, the Eagles will be the
three seed.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
So that means so right now, who's who's who? Who's
the three? What's five? Six?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So that means the Rams go go to a Philly.
That means the Niners get the winner of Tampa and
uh Carolina. I mean, if if Atlanta wins, Carolina's in
the playoffs, If New Orleans wins, Tampa's in the playoffs,
(15:55):
So that means Green Bays and seventh seeds. So they
go to the two seed, which will be the Bears. Okay,
so now I mean the Bears are gonna play because
look they about that.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I think.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Caleb Williams and he throws for like two hundred and
something yards, he'll be the first four thousand yard passer
in Bear's history. Now you're talking about the team that
you talk about, the team that's damn near undred over
one hundred years old, and they've never had a four
thousand yard pass They're the only team, I think, if
I'm not mistaken, in NFL history that's never had a
four thousand yard passer.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So you see what you see how this thing is headed.
Rams going to Philly. Forty nine ers are gonna be
on the road to either Carolina or Tampa, and Green
Bay is gonna be on the road again against Green Bay.
I mean, excuse me, gonna be on the road against
Chicago and see Seattle be at home with the heels
kicked up saying we get who we get, it don't matter.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I don't we get.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Do you think you think about teams that get the
Bible getting NFL and you look at the team in
college football that have gotten to buy Do you think
that the same effect and having rushed as opposed to
the teams that get a Bible from college or you
don't think that really affects NFL.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You know, it all depends turnovers. They're so weighted, so
heavy come postseason time. Oh Joe, that momentum swings. I'm
talking about that momentum swings quick and before you know it,
where you're normally down seven, you're probably down fourteen, seventeen,
(17:33):
and especially if you're at home, because now every third down,
you don't get your crowd get antsy, they get real quiet,
they start to boot, the opposing team start to feel.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Bigger life.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
But we've seen I mean we've seen Kansas City going
the road. It all depends how well can your quarterback
hamlet adversity that's the key.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's the key. Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And for the most part, Hurts and Party are the
only ones that's that's been in this situation. Sam Donald
is probably has never had to win a playoff game
on the road. He's never done it. Remember how bad
he he went to Detroit last year and looked off.
This is uh, this will be Caleb Williams first time
in the postseason. Jeorde Love has had some success in
(18:28):
the postseason. He did go to Dallas and drop forty
eight on them. So Matt Stafford is, you know, has
one has gone on the road and and and and
and and beat Tampa with Tom Brady and went on
to win a Super Bowl. So you look at the
quarterbacks that's been in these situations before and you try
to give you probably give them a slight nod. But
(18:49):
Seattle's defense is a is a neutralizer. It's the end
as an equalizer.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
It's gonna it's gonna be the difference.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
It's gonna be the difference if Sam Donald plays the
way he does in the off season, without turning the
ball over, without putting the ball in Harm's way, with
that defense that Seattle's playing right now, now.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
I'm not saying they not the leasing the boom.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
They not that, They not that, but they damn show
is good where it can be the reason they can
hold that goddamn trophy up. Because I don't see I
don't see the offense in the AFC that's that high
powered that can create that many mismatches where they can
have success going up and down the field on that defense.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, I don't. I don't either. I don't either.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I mean, all things being equal, AFC, I would probably
give the nod to Josh Allen because he's been in
the playoffs in these situations more times than not.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
He's a guy that that legs and.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And the moment, and he does a great job come
playoff time with taking care of the football. Now, his
buggaboo was early in his career in the regular season
turning it over and get that's what got them in
harm's way. But he's done a fairly good job come
post season time of taking care of the football. He's
played really well in some games that he happened to
be opposite of Patrick Mahomes, who's kind of one uped it.
(20:06):
But I agree, I mean, but you know, I think
that's the thing that fans love most about the NFL
O Joe is one game. I ain't gotta beat you
four times. I just gotta beat you one. I gotta
beat you one Saturday, one Sunday.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That's it. That's it, that's all I gotta do.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Kennth Walker sixteen carries ninety seven yards, Zach Sharpernett seventeen
carries seventy four yards. I thought Sam Donald made some
great plays with his legs on your bind time. He
bought some time, fine Cooper Cup bought some time. Fall
Jackson Jssen, I thought he did a great job of
buying time with his legs, getting letting the guys work
(20:52):
their way, finding find a way to get open and
then and doing a great job. Look, he's not much
of a scramble. Nobody expected him to be. He doesn't
have to be. When you got a running game like that,
they can run the football, but jsaying and you still
got to burn it. Even though Shaheed he did do
a whole lot in the passing game tonight. He's more
than he's more than capable of having this.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
They got to put him in position to do it.
That's all.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
That's all it comes down to he you know how
you said the running back name shab Can you remind
me of Robert Smith from the Vikings A shirt shirt
are long strider shirt tucked in looking look exactly like
Robert Smith the where you run.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
But it's gonna be It's gonna be a let the
fun begin.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
But the Seattle Seahawks get the number one seed and
they win the NFC West thanks to a thirteen to
three victory on the road against the San Francisco forty
nine Ers. They finished the regular season with a fourteen
and three record, uh forty nine close out the year.
Considering all the injuries that they've undergone for them to
be twelve and the number five seed in the playoffs,
(22:03):
I think that's a pretty good job. I thought Kylee
Shanahan did a great job of keeping this team together.
I thought Mac Jones did a great job of when
he came in, playing at an extremely high level to
keep these keep this teabe because you.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Know they've had injuries. They've had.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Williams to be out, they had Big Trent, he was out,
Kittle mis time, pretty myths time, They've had a lot
of they've had an influx. Obviously, Boss done was done
for the season early on. But for them to maintain
an extremely high level of play and still make the
playoffs given the injuries, I think that's a pretty good
(22:40):
I think that's a pretty good accomplishment. And they don't
feel that way right now, considering they had home they
were on their own home turf, and they got out
played tonight and all phases offense, defense, and special teams.
But twelve and five and to have and to get
into the playoffs, I think that speaks volume to what
type of team they're playing. But congratulations to the Seattle Seahawk.
(23:00):
They win thirteen three on the road against the forty nine.
Has finished the regular season fourteen and three, and they
will be the number one seed in the NFC. Jackson
Smith and Jigba. He finishes the season, oh y'all one
hundred and nineteen catches, which ties in for the lead
(23:20):
right now. Pooka Nicole has one nineteen and McBride has
one nineteen, so he's not gonna win that. But he
finished it with seventeen hundred and ninety three yards.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Not quite eighteen eighty, not quite a season.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
They've only been a handful of guys that's ever had
eighteen or nineteen hundred yards.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Julio did it. I think.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Reverend Isaac Bruce did it. Obviously, Jerry did it. Cooper
Cup had nineteen a little like nineteen forty seven, Calvin had,
Megatron had nineteen sixty four, Ab had after Ab had
eighteen hundred two. They've only been a handful of guys.
They're probably less than ten guys that's had eighteen or
(24:04):
nineteen hundred yards receiving in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
At iiink.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Bruce never had eighteen What do you have seventeen? Okay,
seventeen eighty one? Only two with nineteen Jedda had, Jerry
had eighteen forty eight, right, Okay, so yeah, Tyreek had
(24:32):
seventeen ninety nine. Hey, but he also had another seventeen
hundred yard catch season.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But okay.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
The Bucks beat the Panthers by the score of sixteen fourteen.
Now the Panthers need the Facults to beat the Saints
to force a three way tied with them and eighty
nine that would give the division to Carolina be a tiebreaker.
The Buccaneers need the Saint playing without Chris Olave he
has blood clots. Alvin Kamara near an ankle to get
the get a win or tied to claim that fifth
(25:00):
straight NFC Type NC South title despite winning only two
their final three games. Bryce Young says, it'll be a
tough one might not even watch. To be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Man, listen, I'm never one to really complain, right, I'm
never wanted to really complain. But yeah, with the officiating. Now,
if I'm not mistaken, the refs they all get graded,
you know. So if the refs get graded on their performance,
on how they did on officiating a game and calling
the game fair, you know, I mean the rest would
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have got a d or fter night. They would have
got a d or fter night. I think they they
they are the reason I can I can call multiple plays. Uh,
we had or McMillan passing appearance that wasn't a passing appearance.
That wasn't no guy that that we got there in PI.
I'm not sure what they are watching. Then there was
a PI called on on the defense on.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
The guy tripped himself. And even if even if the
DV had tripped, that's incidental. You don't call that fortant
to be tripping.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
It happens to be exactly so I was getting ready
to say, yeah, the one on Kut and I mean
that that's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I'm like, what are we watching? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
And we always talk about you know what people think,
you know, games are rigged, and when you see stuff
like this, and this is coming from for a former player,
I understand this. It's one thing to call call the
game fair if something is egregious, you know, throwing the
flag for it.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
But actually it looks as if the refs.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Don't even know the game. They don't even know the
rules that they're in favor of the Bucks. Now listen,
the Bucks won the game. I'm not complaining about that,
but let's let's like, come on now, call call the
game fair. Like what I what I saw tonight from
the officiating. I hope I don't get fine, but that
was ridiculous. I mean, they should be ashamed of themselves.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
It was it was uh.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And the thing, if we haven't learned anything, ric o'dond
you saw what just happened in two three weeks ago.
It was a lateral passed. The guy picked it up.
He was in the end zone, so there's really nothing
him to do. Why didn't you just pick it up?
And just take off running, make them, make them.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I get it. That was the lateral, do you know?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I guess because he didn't realize where the ball had
come from.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
But that was a lateral. I knew.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
I was like, that's a lateral.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I agree with you. Oh Joe, you can't that that
that PI. Come on, now, come on the fishing. What
are we doing? Come on now?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Really k do ot and tripped himself. He tripped himself.
That man didn't touch it, and you call p I.
And even if he had, it's incidental. How many times
don't Joe have you gotten tripped? I've gotten tripped? And
I was like, man, he tripped me, that's incidental. Legs
got tangled. Yeah, I mean and I agree O Yoe
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and you know you and I played the game, and
like I hate when people say that, but man, some
of them fail, like bront I don't know what what
y'all saw on that one.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I really don't know what y'all saw on that. I
don't That was not p I.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
That was not that was not that was not defensive
p I on Carolina, Kate don't tripped him, damnself, I tweeted.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Ot yo, look.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
The flicker I get it. It was a horrible time
you backed up to call that. But oyo, what do
I always say? Do not make a bad worse If
it is a bad call, just jump on the football.
Why are you those condemn.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Thing?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Listen?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
You already with them little last hands he got he
may it seem like he Mockael Georgie.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Why trying to pick the ball up with one hand? Bro,
you five nine so I know you got small lass hands.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I don't listen, I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Just jump on it. What happened?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I don't know if he if he don't nothing to
remember Drew Brees try to dive in into a pilem
fumble and it all went around like, yeah, you get
your you get your shoulder dis located, You get your
shoulder separated. Bro, just jump on the football. Be smart,
don't make a back. Coach that said this many years ago.
Shoe got ran the wrong route, the quarterback tried to
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throw it to him, got him picked. He said, son,
why would you make a bad situation words He had
already run the wrong route.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Don't you exacerbate it by throwing him in the ball
and got it picked. It was a horrible call.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
We all agree It was a horrible call, which was
made worse by him trying to pick the ball up
with one hand when it's raining. I guess he ain't never.
He's from California, so I know he ain't never chase
no grease pig, so he ain't been to the counterfare nothing.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Damn man, I was.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I don't know, but stuff, oh Joe's stuff like that
that gets you frustrated. Bryce Young is playing. Bryce Young
has never played any old position. It's hard for me
to believe that he played any other position other than
the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Some things.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Is QB one on one, it's basically open. Okay, just
dive as a loss. Now, if it's far.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Down, I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I gotta try to make a back because it's going
to end anyway. But in that situation, no, you dive
on the football. You dive on the football. I agree.
Why would you call? Why would you call in clement Weather?
Why would you have more than another one?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Look?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
First of all, the center quarterback exchange is hard enough.
You had seen Baker trip almost a farm of the ball.
You'll see him trip the guy, and you guys are
tripping over each other. So you want to hand it
to the running back. Okay, take it from the center,
handed to the running back. Have the running back Rico
donad will slipp it all over the place. I don't
know why he I don't know why they go out
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there in that situation.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
You need seven stuff? What are y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
And then you spat it?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Oh hey, it may it may it makes.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
The bottoms and then you're gonna put on a spat
and you wonder why you slipping. First of all, you're
on your heels. You really, I don't give it that.
What kind of clicks you got? They only got four
spikes in the back. There's a reason why they got
all these spikes in the front, because they want you
to put your weight on the front of your balls
on your feet. I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I shouldn't have to tell you that.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Hell, you've been playing long and you've been playing football
for ten and fifteen years at least, But I I
don't I don't get it. I just don't get the
simple stuff. Bryce Young, I just want to know. I
would like to hear what Bryce tell me what you
was thinking on that.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
It's raining. It's raining. I get it.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
It is a horrible call. Chat It's a terrible call
under those conditions. Yeah, you trying to pick the ball
up with them little teeny tiny ass hands in the rain?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, that that's that was a horrible play call. And listen,
if I was Brice, if I was Bryce, I would
have overturned it. I would overruled it. I would have
called something else.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
He can He don't got that. He don't got that.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
You backed up in you backed up in your own area.
Why would you call the trick play knowing that they've
been they've been able to get pressure all god damn
game long, and you call something like that back?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Come on, man, come on.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
That that's that's that's not that's not good football, especially
with the conditions and the elements that we're playing in.
It's already difficult to run an offense as it is.
It's already difficult to run the ball. It's already difficult
to keep you balanced, it's already difficult to throw the ball.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
But hey, come on, let's let's try some trickery.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It's like, if you speeding, okay, you speed, you already
dared the wrong. What can I do to make the
situation worse?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Argue with them?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I've already I'm already wrong. I've already created it's already
a bad situation. Now you realize he's everything. He's a judge,
he's a lawyer, he's everything. Because he got the bad
and he got the gun, he got the maze, he
got the tayor, he got all that issue, the knight stick,
all that. Why would you make why would you make
a bad situation? Go ahead and take go ahead and
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take the ticket and argue all this in front of
a judge. It you've already created. It's already a horrible play.
Oh Joe, Just take the loss of eight six yards,
move on to the next play. That's my only point. Again,
it's a horrible call, But don't make it worse. Carolina,
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suppose that already won this division. You got a seventeen
to three lead, and you blow that against New Orleans.
You keep dowling around you and you blow that. So
if you don't, if you don't win the division.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh y'all.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I watched this game and I was looking at a
Carolina coach. I said, damn wind the cost of parvo
start calling play. I said, oh, mat, that man.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Looked like cars I thought that was a little bit
you do I said, I.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Said, Oh, I guess, Oh, you're about to get a
job down here, find go Carolina, would.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Go if if, if the opportunity to present itself, especially
in Carolina, how let your boy.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
You know I ain't coaching. I ain't coaching, no way.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Oh, I'm so glad you just mentioned that. Now let
me tell you how Let me tell you how God works.
Now it's twenty twenty six. Let me tell you how
convenient it is. There's an opening for a head coach
vacancy that is soon to come. I guess where it's at.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
On the street from you?
Speaker 5 (35:03):
He won and done?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Oh people, what you I mean?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
What you're trying to do? A show? Cause you know
it ain't nothing. It ain't nothing. It ain't nothing for
me to put a call to the Mark Davis.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Now, o Joe, have you seen that team play?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Do you understand what you can do for that team?
Despite what you've seen?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I can't do nothing.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I need I won't need. I won't need how many picks?
So if you if I get a pick every round,
that's seven picks. So I need three picks per round.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Damn, just to turn the program around. Yes, that's that's
messed up.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Oh joe, they're not good, good players.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
They just need the right know. They don't write tutelage.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
And and and if Max Crosby gonna probably be gone
because he he ticked off, he ticked off.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I'm sending him to the hospital. I'm sending him to
the hospital.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Oh Joe, you got to You got a building from
the ground, from the ground up to for a tutor.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, you got to. It's it's a it's it is
what it is. It is what.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
You just gotta start. You gotta start from scratch. You
gotta start from scratch.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I mean they need a quarterback. Uh, they got Rock Bowers,
they got asked in genty. The offensive line is not good.
They need a receiver. They traded the best receiver. Well,
brock Boles is the best receiver, but he's a tight end.
But I'm talking about best receiver outside or slot outside.
Jakobe Miles with the best receiver. They traded him. Okay,
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they're gonna get a third or fourth round pick. Let's
see what they can do with it. Defensively, those corners,
the safeties.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
They got one. They got one player. I take off
the defense.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
You're right, You're right.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I let it go.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
I let it go.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
You're right.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Damn man. They hey, so and you're letting Geno go
to I need a quarterback to work with outside of Brook.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Hey all, I know, Hey what did uh what did
uh Sam Donald do with the same players he had?
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Oh yeah, so hey hey, now now.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Maybe Jackson, maybe j C. It wasn't there last year.
Maybe maybe Kenn's welcome. Maybe they weren't there DK.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
You were with DK and uh my young boy the preacher.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
So you mean to tell me how Smith and JAK
and d K and Sharbono and Ken.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
What's what's my young boy choir boy.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Locket? Yeah? Yeah, I like I like. So you mean
to tell me he had all that and couldn't do nothing?
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, js N J s N. When
when he like that? Because most of the targets were
going to DK and he wasn't feeding him like that. Hey,
you see you see that, you see that.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
You want something to grow. I've never seen anything that
wouldn't grow that you wouldn't feed. Ah, you've never been
not so you know when did grow on the farm.
But when they want to when they want to see
a pig, they put him up, they put him in
a pinion, and they just feed it. He thinks he's
eating good. He's like, yeah, y'all, ain't getting.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
This little flocked like me.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, it's okay. There's a reason why you're getting it.
He getting fat and don't even know it. In the
chicken house, they leave the lights on chicken to eat
long as he light hey for eating. That's why they
turn it around so quick.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, I ain't know that. Okay, I just learned something.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
But see, that's the thing. So he had to feed them.
Look Gino Gino. For for Gino to lead New York
and to become a pro bowler and throw for four
thousand yards, it's a miracle. So it just goes to
show you that the Jets systematically, organizationally, it's not really
good for developing his players, especially quarterback because we've seen
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quarterbacks lead there and look competent. But with that being said,
I'm getting that. I'm getting everything I need everything. What
can I get from Max Trovet? I know for certain
I can get a first and the third at the
bare of middle.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
You can get a lot from Uh how is.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
How is he he can't be thirty. He probably like
twenty eight. Yes, he twenty eighth.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
My, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, I get a first, and I get a first
in the third this year, and I'm gonna need a
second next year. You talk about the guy that's been
the he's been to three four straight Pro Bowls. He's
been a second team all he's been an All Pro.
I think he's been like a second team. I don't
think he's been first team.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Hey boy, if Jerry Jones make a move for goddamn
for Max hold On, ain't.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
But see, here's the thing this and guess what, o Joe,
Jerry won't he everybody else want two? So what did that?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Do?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
You get into a bending war? You get there, you see,
keep going all.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
The way up, but hold on, and you know, you
know it'll be a nice move that could really shock
the world. Hey, Jerry, are you really serious about turning
this thing around? Go ahead and get go ahead and
get ninety five from Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
He ain't got that kind of draft capital because it's
gonna take all those two first round picks. Well, well
he had to get one of them up, but he
still has two because he got one from Michael this
year and one next year.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
So you wouldn't do it? What would you do?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Oh, it's gonna take. It'll take it. It'll take at
least at least three and some other two ones and
the three we talked about.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
You talk about the best defensive player in football, and
he's not three.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
I need three. I need three for one, I need
three ones?
Speaker 5 (40:56):
Yeah a damn yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Okay, Now you're being greedy, oh Joe, because I see
think about what you trade. Think about what the forty
nineers traded to get an unknown. I'm talking about a
guy that's never not had more than ten think about it,
he's been he's been in the league less than twelve
ten years, and he has one hundred and twenty five sacks.
Man giving you thirteen sacks of season. He's on the
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cuff of going twenty three, breaking the record. Yes, that's
what I'm.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Gonna do, and you I ain't. I don't want to
get rid of him.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
You won't.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
It not make me saving, But listen to me, or
trade him out?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
What people because or you're talking about? You see you
see how you talking Uncle Ocho talking about.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
But I'm just saying, if he did bad with him,
That mean you can do bad without him. So you
understand you're in a rebuilding stage. You can get so
much value for him right now. Cleveland gets so much
value for him right now. And then also in turn,
give him a chance and what he really wants.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
He wants to win.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
He wants the opportunity and a chance to win and
go to a winning team. Now I'm not saying, I mean,
you know what, you.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Don't want to give me three at Chicago, A Miles
Garrett is availing. Okay, Now, since you don't want to
get a Seattle, Miles Garrett is available. Since you want
to be greedy, you want to try to hold on
all your picks, I'm putting him up to the highest
bill A chat. Guess what teams that got the least,
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they'll trade the most.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Chat Talk to me, would you like to see Miles go?
I'm just saying hypothetic speaking if if the opportunity presented itself,
Cowboys Seattle, what.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Can you imagine him Seattle on that turf with that
twelfth Man?
Speaker 5 (42:38):
That that wouldn't be fair with h put him in Chicago.
That's not that's not fair either.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Man.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
How they gonna get the ball off.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
And plus guess what the Eagles already tried to put
a bed on him. What if he goes to the
Eagles the Eagle. See, the Eagles got the most to
offer because they got young player and they got and
they got picks.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
Hey, listen, you know, you know, Loie, I might.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Be I might be be tempted for two first rounders
and if I could get you know, one of the
most de tackles from you, and you know, hey, maybe
if you're willing to throw in Cooper Dejon.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
I mean, I'm just saying. I'm just saying young players
or I need picks. So who you want?
Speaker 4 (43:21):
You Miles Garrett to the Eagles, you get to first round,
two first rounds and Jordan Davis.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I think they'll do that. I think they be willing
to do that. There we go, There we go.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
I think they'd be willing to do that. But somebody's
gonna somebody's gonna put up. Look, philber Tho is gonna
be available. He's a premium pass rushing He's the guy
that's had double nit your sacks. Now he's been nicked.
But I don't see a scenario where he turned returns
to the to the Giants because they drafted up Dual
Carter h third in the draft, and they got Brian Burns,
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who's going to the pro bo who has like.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
So, I don't see a scenario where Thibodo comes back
on Joe.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Hey, we might, we might get Thibido down in Uh
you old Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
It's not gonna be cheap.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
Jodn put the word out on. Jodn.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
Put the word out man, Joe not playing one thing.
You don't want. You know, management does not want their
franchise quarterback upset. The message was loud and clear. Now
he said it in a way where it's goddamn cryptic.
But those who understand, if you know, you know, if
you know you know, it doesn't need to be explained.
And hey, I said Jeffrey Simmons a message on Instagrams.
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He didn't respond.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
I don't like to be ignored. I know I know
he saw it, or maybe he didn't see it. Yeah,
Jeffrey Simmons, if you see this, I know, I know
you watched the show, because all y'all watch the show.
I see you in Cincinnati next year. All right, well
maybe sometime this off season.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah, oh, Joe, I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
And I'm looking like, you know, when they say it
was it was a lateral, and the official say the
ball went out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Rick Coadalad picked the ball up. What do you mean
it went out of bounds? It didn't, but that's what
the official said.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
And I'm looking at I'm like, hold on, don't I
best my whole TV up trying to go back. I
went back to the dawn start of the game.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
I had.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
I had to go down to I don't know how
it worked on Joe. You know how you could? I
guess you could, like live TV, you could rewind it
just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Man. I tried to do that.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I went all the way back to the front of
the game. I had to come downstairs. I had to
go downstairs to watch TV. Oh yeah, because I look out,
what does they mean it went out about?
Speaker 2 (45:41):
The ball was really dead?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
First of all, the official was right there, he ruled
it complete. I saw I saw the side judge looking
right there. He's like incomplete. I'm like, that's a lateral.
And then he came on and say the ball went
out of bounds.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
It didn't go out of I don't know what they
were looking at, but I know one thing. I'm not
one to criticize referees.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
But come on nine, Come on nine.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
If they were greater tonight, they got to have a
DF ain't no explanation. I guarantee you watch the NFL
or Mike Pirero or watch him come out and say
there was some calls that we missed and we apologize.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
I guarantee you. I guarantee you that happened. Watch Monday morning.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Yes, I'm looking at the guy.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I'm looking at Alan, who's an official, and I'm like,
what do you mean the ball went out of bounds.
I'm looking go back and look at it. You can
see it playing this day. If I'm not gonna saying
I think it was a black guy he's doing. He's like, yeah, complete.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
I'm like, but that's a literal. It's like I was
almost as if they don't know the game. Damn there.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Oh y'all.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
This is what Alan said and was asking after the
game whether erroneous whistle was blown, which should have given
the path of the choice to replay the down. What
was reported to me was the ruling on the field
was he backwards passed, and once it was possessed the
receiver or gave himself up with the by rule caused
the player to become dead. Because of the erroneous whistle,
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the panther could have had a choice of a replay
but down. Well but see, ojo, that's why you see
guys always they get the ball to take off running,
blowing with a you can, I can come back.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
But see that's what I'm saying. He should have just
picked it up, but he but see, no it didn't.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
He routed it incomplete as soon as the ball hit
the ground, the officially incomplete.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
But that's not what you said.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
They listen, they're not even on the same page. That's
how you know something, right, But he did, o.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Joe, because when when he picked the ball up in
the door anything, it's like giving yourself up. So right, yeah, absolutely, yeah,
I don't want no second in sixteen okay, yeah, right
right right? He said what was relayed to him? Well
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who relayed that? I say, y'all get calls from secacas
all the time. Why didn't why why did you get
that call? Because if given a choice to replay it
on your you were first and ten or second and
sixteen ten?
Speaker 5 (48:16):
Hold on, let me get some of this liquor real quick.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, this was it made.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Anytime a game is this close, uh you know, you
know it's a fort it's a what a fourteen sixteen
ball game?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
And the call, the the.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
The egreeciousness of the calls that and the people that
will see this is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
And I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
When when you're in it, when you playing, those thoughts
never come across your mind.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
I promise you. I never.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I never thought like damn. I was like, man, that
was a bad call. But now when I just see
this stuff, just like bro, what what?
Speaker 2 (49:02):
What the hell?
Speaker 1 (49:06):
When you say the man tripped and the man tripped
over his own damn feet and you.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Call that p I.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
But that's that's but congratulates to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
I'm not hating, you know, I'm not hating.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
I mean, even as a fan, if you're a Bucks
fan and you see what you saw, what you're saying,
I know you want to go, you want to roof
for your team, But if you agree with some of
those calls you saw tonight, and like come on, now,
come on now.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
No, And like I said, there are three or four calls,
and they was so obvious you got to give them
a down the ball who relayed that the ball would
have okay, who relaid that clearly it was a lateral,
and you said incomplete? Hmm, give them an opportunity to
(49:53):
play the down over. I'm sure they would have taken
first and ten as opposed to second and sixteen. Yeah,
that I mean, those are times that I wish Selcacas
would end a bean. Give them an opportunity to replay
blah blah blah, so furth and soul and let them
(50:13):
replay the down because what happened it was a lateral.
It was ruled and complete. It was the same thing
that happened in Seattle in the rams. The only difference
here is o Joe Charbono picked them all up in
the end zone. So you didn't have no choice but
to give him the two point play even though they
had ruled it. They had ruled it dead, and see
(50:35):
they go back and review it. Why did y'all go
back and review that?
Speaker 5 (50:38):
You know? Why? Damn shame.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Ohto even I Brice Young leads the Panther to the playoffs,
the organization might not be ready to commit long term.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
The Pathers have a decision to make on the young
fifth year option.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
Es N Jeremy Fowler reported Sunday that the exit the
expectation is that the Panthers will pick up the option,
but for now they're not considering a long term deal.
Absolutely not. A long term deal is somewhere between fifty
and sixty five million dollars. I'm not giving him that.
Speaker 5 (51:12):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure I'm.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Gonna pick up that option for twenty six.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
The Panthers will pick up Brice Young's fifty year option
for twenty six point five million, which is a serious
bargain for a quarterback in the market. That would put
him under contract until twenty twenty seven, but would then
most likely want to see more. The brain trucks will
get together this offseason, look at the full body of
work over the last two years and fill it out
where he could what he could do. They're open to
the long term, but I don't expect the fifth year deal,
(51:39):
a five year deal to come in the next couple
of months.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
I don't either, you know, honestly, honestly, when you thinking
about it, on. I understand him, not one give him
fifty to fifty five million, but he can have a
team friendly contract similar to that of Sam Donald. You know,
depending on how he looks next year, if you pick
up that fifth year option. I think if you can
continue to build and put pieces around Bryce Young, I
think he can be competent. And he's showing he he's
(52:04):
shown he can be the guy for that team. I mean,
he's not Josh Allen, he's not Lamar Jackson, not Joe Burrow.
But for the Carolina Panthers, Bryce Young is the answer.
All you have to do is continue to put pieces
around him and he will be fine. When he was
at Alabama, he was just fine. Why was he find
Alabama because look at it, but he had around him
just continued just continue to be That's yeah.
Speaker 5 (52:25):
I mean, he's never.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Going to be just so damn small. O.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Joe, tell me the guy, tell me the guy that
you've seen that size, that height, that size that Oh Joe,
he ain't a hundred, he might be one hundred.
Speaker 5 (52:39):
Fred height, Fred Markington, Fred.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Fred Targan was tall.
Speaker 5 (52:45):
Fred Tarkin like sixty one Bright Bryce Young six.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
To one, Bryce Young five to nine five nine five
to nine five on the Arizona Cardinals. Didn't have no
problem paying Cayler Murray.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
How that worked out for I want you chat, you see,
I'll do it chat.
Speaker 5 (53:09):
He's earned that. He's earned that, especially especially since he's
been benched and the way he's been playing. Who else
could have came in? Listen they nine and seven? Well,
after the ninth game they nine and eighty.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
I don't I don't see another quarterback out there that
could have come on this team and he's done.
Speaker 5 (53:27):
I don't see anybody in the draft.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
I agree that that's that promising that can come in
and change the face of the organization and take Bryce
Young Spock and Bryce Young spot and do that much better.
I think Young Bully has earned the right to be
to get a long term deal. It doesn't have to
be Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson numbers.
Speaker 5 (53:46):
It could be.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
But see if that's not what his agent is thinking.
Because what you're trying to do, you're not trying to
stop stop the market. You tried to explod it.
Speaker 4 (53:55):
So what can you do now that that that now
that no, no, now see don't don't don't be like that.
The agent should not be trying to reset the market.
You know, you don't have to reset the market type quarterback.
He's not in a reset the market type position.
Speaker 5 (54:09):
You're not.
Speaker 4 (54:10):
Let's let's let's let's play fair. Let's let's let's be realistic.
I want I want him to get his money.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
You know, But come on, nine, they list Bryce Young
at five ten, if they list you at five ten
on Joe hot.
Speaker 5 (54:26):
Tall, are you actually probably five five nine?
Speaker 2 (54:32):
Boy? Look here two of five? Oh yo, you think that? Man?
I weigh you.
Speaker 5 (54:37):
No, I'm too ten right now.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
I doubt that. So you think he five pounds less
than you at five to nine?
Speaker 5 (54:43):
How much do you think he is by what I mean?
Speaker 2 (54:45):
I'm asking you.
Speaker 5 (54:46):
I think honestly, he probably about maybe one night, probably one.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Five one night.
Speaker 5 (54:55):
You know, you know he's good. He's good at that size.
He was that size of Alabama, you know.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
And yes, and there are a lot of quarterbacks that
played well in college that didn't do well in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
I like that. Uh, what's the dude.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Sam Bradford, he won a Heisman trophy, Jason White won
a Heisman trophy, Eric Crouch won a Heisman trophy. Tim
Tebow won a Heisman Trophy. There are a lot of
guys that wan't that that that played really really well
in college. Just because you played well in college doesn't
mean it's gonna translate. What about Tavon Ousta did his translate?
(55:33):
He was He's electric in the in college? Yea must
see TV.
Speaker 5 (55:43):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
I wanted.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
I really would like to know. I really would like
to put a scale. I would like to see him.
I mean, oh, Joe, he is a thing theme and
he I mean, oh, look at it.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
I'm trying to think and in chat, y'all, y'all forgive
me chat. Maybe y'all can help me out. I'm trying
to think of quarterbacks that have been in the NFL
that have been similar to Bryce's young size.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
Dove fluted Bingo, there we go. What you mean, bing go?
Speaker 5 (56:17):
Doug?
Speaker 6 (56:18):
You putting your homes on dog fluting that that flooty
with nice uh dove fluty has some.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Moments.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Now, Oh Joe, I'm not paying you no damn sixty
million dollars for no damn moments.
Speaker 5 (56:31):
See you see you going to sixty I told you,
I say he can be somewhere between.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
I'm okay, So how much should I how much? What's
the going rate?
Speaker 4 (56:38):
Listen for Bryce Young thirty five year, thirty five year.
That's team friendly. Yeah, that ain't bad, that's good.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
That good money? Now yeah what you think? No, I
don't know if you take it, but it sounds like
good money.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
How much?
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Looking see Drew Reeves, how much did you breeze way?
Drew Brees was was was sturdy.
Speaker 5 (57:03):
Brees big bone down't count he big bone?
Speaker 2 (57:11):
So so y'all?
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Now, of all the quarterbacks, Drew Brees is gonna be
the smallest quarterback ever to end into the Hall of
Fame and the one hundred plus year history. Drews about
Drew probably about five eleven.
Speaker 5 (57:23):
Yeah, tall all hell, he didn't look tall. Tried to
throw it looked like he was looking over the line
to make the past.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
He would say. His help was sitting on top of
his head like that right there. So he's seeing the
funded his face mask.
Speaker 5 (57:43):
Ah, man, I mean Briceton put the work in man.
He he deserves his day. He deserves his day.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
They talk about Warren Moon, tall as hell.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
Yeah, I played I played with war when played against
him with the Pro Bowls with him. War Moons like
six three like two twenty five. I don't know why
y'all thought Warren was small, Yeah, Russell, But y'all see
how Stocky run Rush rus Russe rustbild like a s Yes,
(58:27):
do y'all see how y'all looking at Russ. Y'all see
Brce Young. They not comparable as far as size. They
might be comparable as far as height, but size, That's
what I'm saying when I look as hot as what
he is.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
But he need to gain some weight.
Speaker 5 (58:46):
No, he can't gave rus He can't gain.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
No weight un I mean, I mean his frame, his
frame is really not conducing.
Speaker 5 (58:54):
For frame, his frame and him actually putting on weight
that might do more harm than good. It might do
more harm than good. I think.
Speaker 4 (59:01):
For for Bryce, he's a sides He's going to be
the way his frame is. You can only put on
so much muscle, if anything. He just needs to be
able to lift and get as strong as possible to
prevent himself from getting hurt and to be able to
withstand and last hold on. He's been available, He's been
available at his side.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
I'm looking at look at Russ from waist down, look
at look at Bryce Young from waist down.
Speaker 5 (59:28):
Now you tell me to come completely different, completely different.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
Completely different body types. Russ and Drew Brees are more similar.
Speaker 5 (59:39):
Mm hmm, hold on, look at I agree, I agree
with you, but I got one to tell you.
Speaker 4 (59:46):
Lamar Jackson is thinned. He's just a little taller, and
obviously he's much faster than Bryce Young.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
You do realize Lamar played at two twenty five one
year and he dropped back down to two fifteen.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
Right then, Lamar with that big Yes, remember he lost
all that way.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
You remember how Lamar came out there almost like you're like, damn, hey,
hold on two as Mar had got him like two
twenty five thirty.
Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
That two twenty five is to size. Come on, now,
I'm telling you, go back, go back, chat.
Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
Somebody got somebody got to show me a picture of
that two twenty five.
Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
But also, look how tall Lamar is Lamar, how much
of Lamar Jackson waiting? Now? He probably two fifteen right now,
But Lamar was like two twenty five, two thirty a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
Damn, man, hey, bamn, I don't remember that, Yes, yeah,
I don't remember that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
He listened at two or five? What was a couple
of years we won't be able to find that out.
What's that, Joe? I mean Lamar's oh.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Week, absolutely absolutely, I mean, I'm just I'm I'm just
I'm just speaking body tighter.
Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
And twenty twenty two, Oh Shoe, he was two thirty
two fifteen and twenty three he dropped down to two
o five. I told you, yes, man, you don't remember
when when he can't he showed back up for Oka
and Lamar had had it.
Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Yes, I thought it was just in the weight room.
I ain't, you know, I ain't.
Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
But when you but when you when you have height,
you can put some weight on.
Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Pat Ryder was telling the story that when they traded
for Shaq, when Shaq showed hup, he put him on
the scale.
Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Shock was three eighty three oh three eighty three.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Man, do you know you've seen shock?
Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
But three is shocked. Not the biggest man you've ever
seen the person?
Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
Yes, how much did Desmond watching Wade?
Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
Okay, okay, four, I have tot but he tall and
he's six five.
Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Oh seven to one. That's why basketball players don't, Joe,
they can put on weight like that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
You see, big.
Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Baby, Yeah, yeah he he looks short on the court though, man,
big baby like six four six five short to you?
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
You do realize Miles guarant like six four yeah, but six.
Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
Fold that's short. And for NBA, NBA were talking about
we talking about NBA though shire Steph Curry sixty.
Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Three, Hey Chad, y'all to go to the Ravens dot
com and look it up. No, but Shaq said one
time he was four hundred shack if Oh Joe, do
you realize I mean, look at the big show.
Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
Okay, now that's a big boy.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Okay, so get tall taller than him. So magine Andre
the Giant.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
I mean, I wish I could have seen Andrea Giant
to really because when you were a kid and you
see somebody, that's all.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Everybody looked big.
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
But Andrea Jihant was seven, was seven four or five
hundred five twenty five?
Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
Andreda giant, remember andredda Giant who Koku had that wrestling match?
Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Yeah, I was, I was a classic.
Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
That's I mean you.
Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I mean, like I said, I wish I could see
him now to really get a true sense of just
how big he was, because when you like five six
years old, everybody looked big.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
O' yoe. So you don't really you don't really get.
Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
A sense of just how big andred the giant is,
how tall League lists Big Baby at They said Big
Baby like six seven O yo, damn. They got Big
Baby listed at sixty nine O joe, damn.
Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Hey, unc, so that means he really six.
Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
But think about it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
But see when Big Baby came out even at like nineteen,
look out solid he wore big boy.
Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Yes damn.
Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Hey, you know, I man, and I almost said the
N word. But them boys be so tall in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Boy, yes, so you can like the only guy ain't
got to worrybout nothing is Kevin Durant, Karen Ran, Kevin Durant.
He ain't gonna never be doing Kevin duran is gonna
be like green you know what, he'd be sixty seventy
eighty years old.
Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Gonna be like that too.
Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Wimby, who huh, yes, the same boy. Can you imagine
if women game could games away? Women be five.
Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Hundred, you know, when I think about it, Yanna's came
in and Yannis looked like Kevin Durant and Wimby at
one point, and he put on muscle.
Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah, because because Janni's wasn't gonna be able to shoot
the ball like Kevin Durant, so he had to be
able to get down here. Kevin Durant said, I ain't
trying to bang with you guys. I'm gonna stand right
out here, shoot the threes, take it down to the block.
I should get to the MIDI if I need to
get to the rim, I will, But I don't need
to do all that.
Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Again.
Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
Look at Zion, hey boy, if he could lose, he
hurt again. Still, huh.
Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
I think he's back now. I think I think he's back.
I think he got back. He got nicked again, but
I think he's back.
Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
He needs They need to let him come on down
here to Miami.
Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
No, they don't
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There's not enough adjective to describe what this defense did
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nine offense. They made brock brother I mean he threw
four hundred and twenty seven yards. They had less than
they had one hundred and eighty yards of total offense
in their own building. Christian McCaffery had twenty three rush
yards and thirty four receiving yards. Sam Darnald was twenty
of twenty six, one ninety eight, zero touchdown, zero interceptions.
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They ran the ball extremely well, thirty nine rush attempts
one hundred and eighty yards and a touchdown. Jackson Smith
and jigbut six ketches one hundred and eighty four yards.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I think he would well, he's over eighteen hundred, O joe.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
He should might be over nineteen hunty by now, Yeah,
you should be.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And only three guys in the history of the NFL
have ever had at least nineteen hundred yards receiving He's
one of them, Cooper Cup and obviously Calvin Johnson who
has the record. But Seattle was impressive tonight, o' joe.
What did you like about? What did you like most
about what you saw?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
From?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
What I like most about what I saw from the
Seahawks is for one, Sam Donald, he didn't do what
it has always harmed him, especially last year in the playoffs,
in important games and important situations, he turned the ball over.
He'd been turnover prone towards the end of the season
this year as well.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
But this game. He was clean.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
But I want to give Mike McDonald, I don't know
what kind of speech he had before the game for
that defense to play that way they played the night,
but they did. They They had every answer for everything.
The forty nine ers wanted to run offensively. I've never
seen It's happened very few times where he's seen a
forty nine Ers offense get shut out like this Christian McCaffrey,
who's able to do so much offensive for them because
(04:40):
they can put him in so many positions to make
plays and find the mismatches for him.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
They played it extremely well all night long. Obviously, brock
Perty turned the ball over one time.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Christom McCaffrey, who's always had your hands, he let one
get away from him and turn the ball over.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
He the guy tip.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
They kind of threw it off ballots, but it looked
like semac wanted to do something like he wanted to.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
But other than that, man, this was a beautiful game.
Very low scoring.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Obviously, if you offered the type of guy like myself,
you want to see more points scored and you want
to see the Seahawks take advantage of some of those
some of those outings that they had, including the one
where they got an interception, but they weren't able to
do anything with it.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Forty nine and defense.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Played well as well, but they couldn't get anything going
offensively at all.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Well, I thought the difference in the ball game look
from a sea out of perspective. You mentioned Sam Donald
did not put the ball in harm's way. Yeah, he's
thrown twenty six touchdowns, but he has twenty turnovers, and
if you go back and look at them, the games
that they lost turnovers was heavily involved.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Now, they did win a game.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I think they won a game against who with the
rams where they turned the ball over a bunch and
they still was able to win the ball game. But
if you look at his history, when he turns the
ball over, there's a great chance that his team's gonna
lose the game. But this defense is playing so well.
They played a lot of coming to tonight because they
believe they can stop. They believe that they can stop
their running game with that front four. Say we got seven,
(06:13):
we don't need to do anything special, and then you
know they were thrown you know, and they got after
him with that front four. I thought d laudnem I
thought those guys played really, really well the receiving, the
dB stuck to the receiver, Low Show and Ernie Jones,
the fourth and the rest of the crew. They did
a great job of neutralizing the run, putting enough pressure
on brock Perty where he couldn't get comfortable. And then
the longest completion the night, O Joe, George Kittle. The
(06:38):
longest completion the night was twenty yards. They only had
one hundred and twenty seven yards, O twenty seven.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Past was the Kittle right on the Kittle?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yes, yes, yes, watching Seattle, you know obviously you know
watching them. I probably watched them probably about four or
five times this year, O Joe. Their defense is better
than advertising. And if you remember, O Yo, the last
time the Ravens defense been good, he coordinated it. The
head coach of the Seahawks coordinated. Remember they lost the
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championship game. I think they lost to what fourteen thirteen,
fourteen ten, something like that, and then he ends up
getting out of there and he gets the head coaching
job at Seattle. That was the last time the Ravens
defense looked competent. Yeah, if they played Ocho. Based on
what I've seen on every team in the AFC. Now,
you know, any given Sunday, anything, any given Sunday, any
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given satdaything could happen. But if the Seahawks play like this,
there ain't a team in NF he could beat them,
Not the Eagles, not the Rams, not the forty nine ers,
not Carolina, Tampa. Now, if I'm Sam frand I'm not
that disappointed, whoever, the Five Seas should be jumping over
joy because you're gonna get Tampa, you're gonna get Carolina,
and you avoid, You're gonna avoid properly, You're gonna avoid.
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I'm not so sure anybody's really afraid of the Eagles
as much as the maybe last year, but they haven't
been clicking on anything. They hadn't looked really this year.
But if the Seahawks play like this, you're gonna catch
hell going to Seattle with the twelfth Man. Like I said, now,
I'm saying they play like this. That means Sam Donald
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doesn't turn the ball over. He turns the ball over
offense off because you can end up somebody getting the
school and score on a pick six, or you sit
them up on a short field. Excuse me, Chad, but
if you have to drive the ball on this with
those two corners and those balls, I don't see it.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I don't not happen at all with I don't see
And we were talked about, we talked about that front four,
the first level. They got damn back in playing well too.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
They got wall, they got.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Uh Tom look uh uh Josh, Joe, Look, they got
guys that look it's it's hard to explain, o Joe,
but just looking at them, the fundamental sound whatever. Wherever
you catch the ball at they normally get you down
there and they come in to hurry. They do a
lot of game tackling. There ain't no a lot of
one on one he the D line A they see
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the ball throwing, they turning and go yep. This was
impressive tonight to go on the road and beat a
team that's been as hot as the forty nine ers
has been. Hold on, let me put up some stats
on your right quick. Let me see what this thing.
Because they did a job.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
The forty nine ers had nine first downs on yo
as it, there were two or nine on third down.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
They were down yeah downs.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
They had one hundred and seventy three total yards time
of possession thirty seven almost thirty eight minutes to.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Twenty two minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's crazy, uh had and this game really shouldn't have
been close. No, they was all three in the red zone.
They missed the field goal, and and and they had
the center for field goals. But I they were down,
then they should have could have got points oute of
those give the forty. But I was surprised. What I
was really surprised by. One of the things that I
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that let me know what you think, is that how
well Seattle ran the ball against the forty nine ers. Oh,
your thirty seventeen and you run a hand off and
you can get up in.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Nineteen Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Kenneth walking up because you know, you know what, it's
third down, right, thirty seventeen. Most of the time you
want to play it safe. I'm sure in that situation
they should have known it was gonna be a run.
That should have it was gonna be a draw, some
type of handoff.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
In general, I.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Mean, yes, they backed up.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Why are you backed up?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Why are you playing the past, especially in that situation,
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
And Kenneth, and but you got Seattle backed up, so
you know, and and it's not like they totally trust it,
because like, okay, let's say let's just run the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Hey do something, you do something EASi, yes, yes, yes, I.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Mean listen, I don't I don't understand how that even worked.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Brock Perty did not have his finest hour tonight. He
had been playing extremely well. And I'm not, you know,
like I said, this one game. Based on the body
of work, I think he's shown that he's more than capable,
more than a competent. He went to an NFC championship game,
he took a team to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
He kind of got it.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Been beat up a little bit since then, But I
don't I don't really have any major concerns about him.
It was just that this was a total This was
more so what Seattle did do, not so much of
what the forty nine ers didn't do. I think sometimes Ocha,
we get caught up like, oh my goodness, I can't
believe they did that. Where they weren't going seven on seven,
they weren't going against themselves, they weren't going against air.
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They was going against a very competent defense, a team
that can get after you what they're front for. They're
really solid on the back ends. Ernest Jones Junior, excuse me, junior.
The fourth is a tackling machine. They got. They fly
around to the football. This is a very good team,
a very well coached team that's put together. John Snyder
probably doesn't get enough credit, but you look at what
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they have a lot of these guys are they drafted
these guys. Now, they did sign d Law, They did
make the trade for big Leonard Williams.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
They got Erniet Jones basically for little or nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Ah, but he's been that make the trade for Shaheed
that really broke the game over. He was the guy
that flipped the flipped the script when they was playing
at home against the Rams, because he's the one that
got them started with that punt return and then he
catches a big a jail break screen and get going
out the house, out of the house. But I was shocked.
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I was shocked how how Seattle made the forty nine
ers look, because I think the forty nine ers I've
never seen. It was like Kyle was like just going
up and down that call. She's trying to find something.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
To work actually, and it seemed like everything he calls
McDonald and that defense they had answer for it.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Every God answer for it. So what you're thinking, who you?
Who do you? Who do you?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I mean, look the Rams, forty nine ers, Seahawks, we
know they're in. It's gonna be either Carolina or it's
gonna be uh Tampa. And then you look at the
NFC East, it's uh the Eagles, and it's.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Gonna be Green Bay Chicago.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
H I just it's just hard for me to see
a scenario with someone like I said, now you turn
the ball over the playoffs all best off. I don't
give it down who you are, but just looking at
the teams and the way they played thus far, Seattle's.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Defenses outstanding, amazing, and.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You're gonna have to go there to beat them.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
You're gonna have to go there. It's gonna be a
tough task.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
They're gonna be a tall tag, especially not only forget
the defense, forget the offense.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Having to deal with that crowd. You can't hear nothing
in that stadium, right, and.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They got uh and jig Ba, Who's a matchup nightmare.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I don't care who your corners are, So don't get
Mitchell and John. They're not seeing this dude, one on one.
They don't like to play a whole lot of one
of them. They believe they can stop your run with
their front floor forward. They like to play that. They will,
they will play coverage, they will play cover one, they
will play there go man. But just man, Joe cat quick.
(14:25):
He is, I mean, he is super duper quick, and
you bet you better get both hands on him because
if you don't.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
It's a rap. And the funny thing about it is he.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Got your wallet and gone.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
He's not a speed burner. He's not a speed burner,
but he's joke fast and not that he's quick, and
then he knows. He's an elite route runner, elite route
runner and very very good to manipulate whatever is in
front of him. Make sure he creates separation.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, he's and he's he's unbelievable. That that it's gonna be.
It's gonna be interesting to see because if you think
about it, the Eagles really haven't running the ball all year.
Chicago has one of the best rushing attacks. We'll see
what they can do with that. But the question is, uh,
we know Seattle has home. Uh, So that means Chicago
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will be the two seed, the Eagles will be the
three seed.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
So that means so right now, who's who's who? Who's
the three? What's five? Six?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So that means the Rams go go to a Philly.
That means the Niners get the winner of Tampa and
uh Carolina. I mean, if if Atlanta wins, Carolina's in
the playoffs, If New Orleans wins, Tampa's in the playoffs,
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So that means Green Bays and seventh seeds. So they
go to the two seed, which will be the Bears. Okay,
so now I mean the Bears are gonna play because
look they about that.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I think.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Caleb Williams and he throws for like two hundred and
something yards, he'll be the first four thousand yard passer
in Bear's history. Now you're talking about the team that
you talk about, the team that's damn near undred over
one hundred years old, and they've never had a four
thousand yard pass They're the only team, I think, if
I'm not mistaken, in NFL history that's never had a
four thousand yard passer.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So you see what you see how this thing is headed.
Rams going to Philly. Forty nine ers are gonna be
on the road to either Carolina or Tampa, and Green
Bay is gonna be on the road again against Green Bay.
I mean, excuse me, gonna be on the road against
Chicago and see Seattle be at home with the heels
kicked up saying we get who we get, it don't matter.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I don't we get.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Do you think you think about teams that get the
Bible getting NFL and you look at the team in
college football that have gotten to buy Do you think
that the same effect and having rushed as opposed to
the teams that get a Bible from college or you
don't think that really affects NFL.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You know, it all depends turnovers. They're so weighted, so
heavy come postseason time. Oh Joe, that momentum swings. I'm
talking about that momentum swings quick and before you know it,
where you're normally down seven, you're probably down fourteen, seventeen,
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and especially if you're at home, because now every third down,
you don't get your crowd get antsy, they get real quiet,
they start to boot, the opposing team start to feel.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Bigger life.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
But we've seen I mean we've seen Kansas City going
the road. It all depends how well can your quarterback
hamlet adversity that's the key.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's the key. Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And for the most part, Hurts and Party are the
only ones that's that's been in this situation. Sam Donald
is probably has never had to win a playoff game
on the road. He's never done it. Remember how bad
he he went to Detroit last year and looked off.
This is uh, this will be Caleb Williams first time
in the postseason. Jeorde Love has had some success in
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the postseason. He did go to Dallas and drop forty
eight on them. So Matt Stafford is, you know, has
one has gone on the road and and and and
and and beat Tampa with Tom Brady and went on
to win a Super Bowl. So you look at the
quarterbacks that's been in these situations before and you try
to give you probably give them a slight nod. But
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Seattle's defense is a is a neutralizer. It's the end
as an equalizer.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
It's gonna it's gonna be the difference.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
It's gonna be the difference if Sam Donald plays the
way he does in the off season, without turning the
ball over, without putting the ball in Harm's way, with
that defense that Seattle's playing right now, now.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
I'm not saying they not the leasing the boom.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
They not that, They not that, but they damn show
is good where it can be the reason they can
hold that goddamn trophy up. Because I don't see I
don't see the offense in the AFC that's that high
powered that can create that many mismatches where they can
have success going up and down the field on that defense.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, I don't. I don't either. I don't either.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I mean, all things being equal, AFC, I would probably
give the nod to Josh Allen because he's been in
the playoffs in these situations more times than not.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
He's a guy that that legs and.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And the moment, and he does a great job come
playoff time with taking care of the football. Now, his
buggaboo was early in his career in the regular season
turning it over and get that's what got them in
harm's way. But he's done a fairly good job come
post season time of taking care of the football. He's
played really well in some games that he happened to
be opposite of Patrick Mahomes, who's kind of one uped it.
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But I agree, I mean, but you know, I think
that's the thing that fans love most about the NFL
O Joe is one game. I ain't gotta beat you
four times. I just gotta beat you one. I gotta
beat you one Saturday, one Sunday.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That's it. That's it, that's all I gotta do.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Kennth Walker sixteen carries ninety seven yards, Zach Sharpernett seventeen
carries seventy four yards. I thought Sam Donald made some
great plays with his legs on your bind time. He
bought some time, fine Cooper Cup bought some time. Fall
Jackson Jssen, I thought he did a great job of
buying time with his legs, getting letting the guys work
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their way, finding find a way to get open and
then and doing a great job. Look, he's not much
of a scramble. Nobody expected him to be. He doesn't
have to be. When you got a running game like that,
they can run the football, but jsaying and you still
got to burn it. Even though Shaheed he did do
a whole lot in the passing game tonight. He's more
than he's more than capable of having this.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
They got to put him in position to do it.
That's all.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
That's all it comes down to he you know how
you said the running back name shab Can you remind
me of Robert Smith from the Vikings A shirt shirt
are long strider shirt tucked in looking look exactly like
Robert Smith the where you run.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
But it's gonna be It's gonna be a let the
fun begin.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
But the Seattle Seahawks get the number one seed and
they win the NFC West thanks to a thirteen to
three victory on the road against the San Francisco forty
nine Ers. They finished the regular season with a fourteen
and three record, uh forty nine close out the year.
Considering all the injuries that they've undergone for them to
be twelve and the number five seed in the playoffs,
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I think that's a pretty good job. I thought Kylee
Shanahan did a great job of keeping this team together.
I thought Mac Jones did a great job of when
he came in, playing at an extremely high level to
keep these keep this teabe because you.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Know they've had injuries. They've had.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Williams to be out, they had Big Trent, he was out,
Kittle mis time, pretty myths time, They've had a lot
of they've had an influx. Obviously, Boss done was done
for the season early on. But for them to maintain
an extremely high level of play and still make the
playoffs given the injuries, I think that's a pretty good
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I think that's a pretty good accomplishment. And they don't
feel that way right now, considering they had home they
were on their own home turf, and they got out
played tonight and all phases offense, defense, and special teams.
But twelve and five and to have and to get
into the playoffs, I think that speaks volume to what
type of team they're playing. But congratulations to the Seattle Seahawk.
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They win thirteen three on the road against the forty nine.
Has finished the regular season fourteen and three, and they
will be the number one seed in the NFC. Jackson
Smith and Jigba. He finishes the season, oh y'all one
hundred and nineteen catches, which ties in for the lead
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right now. Pooka Nicole has one nineteen and McBride has
one nineteen, so he's not gonna win that. But he
finished it with seventeen hundred and ninety three yards.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Not quite eighteen eighty, not quite a season.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
They've only been a handful of guys that's ever had
eighteen or nineteen hundred yards.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Julio did it. I think.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Reverend Isaac Bruce did it. Obviously, Jerry did it. Cooper
Cup had nineteen a little like nineteen forty seven, Calvin had,
Megatron had nineteen sixty four, Ab had after Ab had
eighteen hundred two. They've only been a handful of guys.
They're probably less than ten guys that's had eighteen or
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nineteen hundred yards receiving in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
At iiink.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Bruce never had eighteen What do you have seventeen? Okay,
seventeen eighty one? Only two with nineteen Jedda had, Jerry
had eighteen forty eight, right, Okay, so yeah, Tyreek had
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seventeen ninety nine. Hey, but he also had another seventeen
hundred yard catch season.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But okay.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
The Bucks beat the Panthers by the score of sixteen fourteen.
Now the Panthers need the Facults to beat the Saints
to force a three way tied with them and eighty
nine that would give the division to Carolina be a tiebreaker.
The Buccaneers need the Saint playing without Chris Olave he
has blood clots. Alvin Kamara near an ankle to get
the get a win or tied to claim that fifth
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straight NFC Type NC South title despite winning only two
their final three games. Bryce Young says, it'll be a
tough one might not even watch. To be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Man, listen, I'm never one to really complain, right, I'm
never wanted to really complain. But yeah, with the officiating. Now,
if I'm not mistaken, the refs they all get graded,
you know. So if the refs get graded on their performance,
on how they did on officiating a game and calling
the game fair, you know, I mean the rest would
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have got a d or fter night. They would have
got a d or fter night. I think they they
they are the reason I can I can call multiple plays. Uh,
we had or McMillan passing appearance that wasn't a passing appearance.
That wasn't no guy that that we got there in PI.
I'm not sure what they are watching. Then there was
a PI called on on the defense on.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
The guy tripped himself. And even if even if the
DV had tripped, that's incidental. You don't call that fortant
to be tripping.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
It happens to be exactly so I was getting ready
to say, yeah, the one on Kut and I mean
that that's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I'm like, what are we watching? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
And we always talk about you know what people think,
you know, games are rigged, and when you see stuff
like this, and this is coming from for a former player,
I understand this. It's one thing to call call the
game fair if something is egregious, you know, throwing the
flag for it.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
But actually it looks as if the refs.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Don't even know the game. They don't even know the
rules that they're in favor of the Bucks. Now listen,
the Bucks won the game. I'm not complaining about that,
but let's let's like, come on now, call call the
game fair. Like what I what I saw tonight from
the officiating. I hope I don't get fine, but that
was ridiculous. I mean, they should be ashamed of themselves.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
It was it was uh.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And the thing, if we haven't learned anything, ric o'dond
you saw what just happened in two three weeks ago.
It was a lateral passed. The guy picked it up.
He was in the end zone, so there's really nothing
him to do. Why didn't you just pick it up?
And just take off running, make them, make them.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I get it. That was the lateral, do you know?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I guess because he didn't realize where the ball had
come from.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
But that was a lateral. I knew.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
I was like, that's a lateral.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I agree with you. Oh Joe, you can't that that
that PI. Come on, now, come on the fishing. What
are we doing? Come on now?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Really k do ot and tripped himself. He tripped himself.
That man didn't touch it, and you call p I.
And even if he had, it's incidental. How many times
don't Joe have you gotten tripped? I've gotten tripped? And
I was like, man, he tripped me, that's incidental. Legs
got tangled. Yeah, I mean and I agree O Yoe
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and you know you and I played the game, and
like I hate when people say that, but man, some
of them fail, like bront I don't know what what
y'all saw on that one.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I really don't know what y'all saw on that. I
don't That was not p I.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
That was not that was not that was not defensive
p I on Carolina, Kate don't tripped him, damnself, I tweeted.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Ot yo, look.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
The flicker I get it. It was a horrible time
you backed up to call that. But oyo, what do
I always say? Do not make a bad worse If
it is a bad call, just jump on the football.
Why are you those condemn.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Thing?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Listen?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
You already with them little last hands he got he
may it seem like he Mockael Georgie.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Why trying to pick the ball up with one hand? Bro,
you five nine so I know you got small lass hands.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I don't listen, I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Just jump on it. What happened?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I don't know if he if he don't nothing to
remember Drew Brees try to dive in into a pilem
fumble and it all went around like, yeah, you get
your you get your shoulder dis located, You get your
shoulder separated. Bro, just jump on the football. Be smart,
don't make a back. Coach that said this many years ago.
Shoe got ran the wrong route, the quarterback tried to
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throw it to him, got him picked. He said, son,
why would you make a bad situation words He had
already run the wrong route.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Don't you exacerbate it by throwing him in the ball
and got it picked. It was a horrible call.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
We all agree It was a horrible call, which was
made worse by him trying to pick the ball up
with one hand when it's raining. I guess he ain't never.
He's from California, so I know he ain't never chase
no grease pig, so he ain't been to the counterfare nothing.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Damn man, I was.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I don't know, but stuff, oh Joe's stuff like that
that gets you frustrated. Bryce Young is playing. Bryce Young
has never played any old position. It's hard for me
to believe that he played any other position other than
the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Some things.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Is QB one on one, it's basically open. Okay, just
dive as a loss. Now, if it's far.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Down, I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I gotta try to make a back because it's going
to end anyway. But in that situation, no, you dive
on the football. You dive on the football. I agree.
Why would you call? Why would you call in clement Weather?
Why would you have more than another one?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Look?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
First of all, the center quarterback exchange is hard enough.
You had seen Baker trip almost a farm of the ball.
You'll see him trip the guy, and you guys are
tripping over each other. So you want to hand it
to the running back. Okay, take it from the center,
handed to the running back. Have the running back Rico
donad will slipp it all over the place. I don't
know why he I don't know why they go out
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there in that situation.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
You need seven stuff? What are y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
And then you spat it?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Oh hey, it may it may it makes.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
The bottoms and then you're gonna put on a spat
and you wonder why you slipping. First of all, you're
on your heels. You really, I don't give it that.
What kind of clicks you got? They only got four
spikes in the back. There's a reason why they got
all these spikes in the front, because they want you
to put your weight on the front of your balls
on your feet. I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I shouldn't have to tell you that.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Hell, you've been playing long and you've been playing football
for ten and fifteen years at least, But I I
don't I don't get it. I just don't get the
simple stuff. Bryce Young, I just want to know. I
would like to hear what Bryce tell me what you
was thinking on that.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
It's raining. It's raining. I get it.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
It is a horrible call. Chat It's a terrible call
under those conditions. Yeah, you trying to pick the ball
up with them little teeny tiny ass hands in the rain?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, that that's that was a horrible play call. And listen,
if I was Brice, if I was Bryce, I would
have overturned it. I would overruled it. I would have
called something else.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
He can He don't got that. He don't got that.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
You backed up in you backed up in your own area.
Why would you call the trick play knowing that they've
been they've been able to get pressure all god damn
game long, and you call something like that back?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Come on, man, come on.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
That that's that's that's not that's not good football, especially
with the conditions and the elements that we're playing in.
It's already difficult to run an offense as it is.
It's already difficult to run the ball. It's already difficult
to keep you balanced, it's already difficult to throw the ball.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
But hey, come on, let's let's try some trickery.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It's like, if you speeding, okay, you speed, you already
dared the wrong. What can I do to make the
situation worse?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Argue with them?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I've already I'm already wrong. I've already created it's already
a bad situation. Now you realize he's everything. He's a judge,
he's a lawyer, he's everything. Because he got the bad
and he got the gun, he got the maze, he
got the tayor, he got all that issue, the knight stick,
all that. Why would you make why would you make
a bad situation? Go ahead and take go ahead and
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take the ticket and argue all this in front of
a judge. It you've already created. It's already a horrible play.
Oh Joe, Just take the loss of eight six yards,
move on to the next play. That's my only point. Again,
it's a horrible call, But don't make it worse. Carolina,
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suppose that already won this division. You got a seventeen
to three lead, and you blow that against New Orleans.
You keep dowling around you and you blow that. So
if you don't, if you don't win the division.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh y'all.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I watched this game and I was looking at a
Carolina coach. I said, damn wind the cost of parvo
start calling play. I said, oh, mat, that man.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Looked like cars I thought that was a little bit
you do I said, I.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Said, Oh, I guess, Oh, you're about to get a
job down here, find go Carolina, would.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Go if if, if the opportunity to present itself, especially
in Carolina, how let your boy.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
You know I ain't coaching. I ain't coaching, no way.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Oh, I'm so glad you just mentioned that. Now let
me tell you how Let me tell you how God works.
Now it's twenty twenty six. Let me tell you how
convenient it is. There's an opening for a head coach
vacancy that is soon to come. I guess where it's at.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
On the street from you?
Speaker 5 (35:03):
He won and done?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Oh people, what you I mean?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
What you're trying to do? A show? Cause you know
it ain't nothing. It ain't nothing. It ain't nothing for
me to put a call to the Mark Davis.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Now, o Joe, have you seen that team play?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Do you understand what you can do for that team?
Despite what you've seen?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I can't do nothing.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I need I won't need. I won't need how many picks?
So if you if I get a pick every round,
that's seven picks. So I need three picks per round.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Damn, just to turn the program around. Yes, that's that's
messed up.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Oh joe, they're not good, good players.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
They just need the right know. They don't write tutelage.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
And and and if Max Crosby gonna probably be gone
because he he ticked off, he ticked off.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I'm sending him to the hospital. I'm sending him to
the hospital.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Oh Joe, you got to You got a building from
the ground, from the ground up to for a tutor.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, you got to. It's it's a it's it is
what it is. It is what.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
You just gotta start. You gotta start from scratch. You
gotta start from scratch.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I mean they need a quarterback. Uh, they got Rock Bowers,
they got asked in genty. The offensive line is not good.
They need a receiver. They traded the best receiver. Well,
brock Boles is the best receiver, but he's a tight end.
But I'm talking about best receiver outside or slot outside.
Jakobe Miles with the best receiver. They traded him. Okay,
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they're gonna get a third or fourth round pick. Let's
see what they can do with it. Defensively, those corners,
the safeties.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
They got one. They got one player. I take off
the defense.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
You're right, You're right.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I let it go.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
I let it go.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
You're right.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Damn man. They hey, so and you're letting Geno go
to I need a quarterback to work with outside of Brook.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Hey all, I know, Hey what did uh what did
uh Sam Donald do with the same players he had?
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Oh yeah, so hey hey, now now.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Maybe Jackson, maybe j C. It wasn't there last year.
Maybe maybe Kenn's welcome. Maybe they weren't there DK.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
You were with DK and uh my young boy the preacher.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
So you mean to tell me how Smith and JAK
and d K and Sharbono and Ken.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
What's what's my young boy choir boy.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Locket? Yeah? Yeah, I like I like. So you mean
to tell me he had all that and couldn't do nothing?
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, js N J s N. When
when he like that? Because most of the targets were
going to DK and he wasn't feeding him like that. Hey,
you see you see that, you see that.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
You want something to grow. I've never seen anything that
wouldn't grow that you wouldn't feed. Ah, you've never been
not so you know when did grow on the farm.
But when they want to when they want to see
a pig, they put him up, they put him in
a pinion, and they just feed it. He thinks he's
eating good. He's like, yeah, y'all, ain't getting.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
This little flocked like me.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, it's okay. There's a reason why you're getting it.
He getting fat and don't even know it. In the
chicken house, they leave the lights on chicken to eat
long as he light hey for eating. That's why they
turn it around so quick.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, I ain't know that. Okay, I just learned something.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
But see, that's the thing. So he had to feed them.
Look Gino Gino. For for Gino to lead New York
and to become a pro bowler and throw for four
thousand yards, it's a miracle. So it just goes to
show you that the Jets systematically, organizationally, it's not really
good for developing his players, especially quarterback because we've seen
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quarterbacks lead there and look competent. But with that being said,
I'm getting that. I'm getting everything I need everything. What
can I get from Max Trovet? I know for certain
I can get a first and the third at the
bare of middle.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
You can get a lot from Uh how is.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
How is he he can't be thirty. He probably like
twenty eight. Yes, he twenty eighth.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
My, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, I get a first, and I get a first
in the third this year, and I'm gonna need a
second next year. You talk about the guy that's been
the he's been to three four straight Pro Bowls. He's
been a second team all he's been an All Pro.
I think he's been like a second team. I don't
think he's been first team.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Hey boy, if Jerry Jones make a move for goddamn
for Max hold On, ain't.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
But see, here's the thing this and guess what, o Joe,
Jerry won't he everybody else want two? So what did that?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Do?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
You get into a bending war? You get there, you see,
keep going all.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
The way up, but hold on, and you know, you
know it'll be a nice move that could really shock
the world. Hey, Jerry, are you really serious about turning
this thing around? Go ahead and get go ahead and
get ninety five from Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
He ain't got that kind of draft capital because it's
gonna take all those two first round picks. Well, well
he had to get one of them up, but he
still has two because he got one from Michael this
year and one next year.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
So you wouldn't do it? What would you do?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Oh, it's gonna take. It'll take it. It'll take at
least at least three and some other two ones and
the three we talked about.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
You talk about the best defensive player in football, and
he's not three.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
I need three. I need three for one, I need
three ones?
Speaker 5 (40:56):
Yeah a damn yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Okay, Now you're being greedy, oh Joe, because I see
think about what you trade. Think about what the forty
nineers traded to get an unknown. I'm talking about a
guy that's never not had more than ten think about it,
he's been he's been in the league less than twelve
ten years, and he has one hundred and twenty five sacks.
Man giving you thirteen sacks of season. He's on the
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cuff of going twenty three, breaking the record. Yes, that's
what I'm.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Gonna do, and you I ain't. I don't want to
get rid of him.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
You won't.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
It not make me saving, But listen to me, or
trade him out?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
What people because or you're talking about? You see you
see how you talking Uncle Ocho talking about.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
But I'm just saying, if he did bad with him,
That mean you can do bad without him. So you
understand you're in a rebuilding stage. You can get so
much value for him right now. Cleveland gets so much
value for him right now. And then also in turn,
give him a chance and what he really wants.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
He wants to win.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
He wants the opportunity and a chance to win and
go to a winning team. Now I'm not saying, I mean,
you know what, you.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Don't want to give me three at Chicago, A Miles
Garrett is availing. Okay, Now, since you don't want to
get a Seattle, Miles Garrett is available. Since you want
to be greedy, you want to try to hold on
all your picks, I'm putting him up to the highest
bill A chat. Guess what teams that got the least,
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they'll trade the most.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Chat Talk to me, would you like to see Miles go?
I'm just saying hypothetic speaking if if the opportunity presented itself,
Cowboys Seattle, what.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Can you imagine him Seattle on that turf with that
twelfth Man?
Speaker 5 (42:38):
That that wouldn't be fair with h put him in Chicago.
That's not that's not fair either.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Man.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
How they gonna get the ball off.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
And plus guess what the Eagles already tried to put
a bed on him. What if he goes to the
Eagles the Eagle. See, the Eagles got the most to
offer because they got young player and they got and
they got picks.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
Hey, listen, you know, you know, Loie, I might.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Be I might be be tempted for two first rounders
and if I could get you know, one of the
most de tackles from you, and you know, hey, maybe
if you're willing to throw in Cooper Dejon.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
I mean, I'm just saying. I'm just saying young players
or I need picks. So who you want?
Speaker 4 (43:21):
You Miles Garrett to the Eagles, you get to first round,
two first rounds and Jordan Davis.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I think they'll do that. I think they be willing
to do that. There we go, There we go.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
I think they'd be willing to do that. But somebody's
gonna somebody's gonna put up. Look, philber Tho is gonna
be available. He's a premium pass rushing He's the guy
that's had double nit your sacks. Now he's been nicked.
But I don't see a scenario where he turned returns
to the to the Giants because they drafted up Dual
Carter h third in the draft, and they got Brian Burns,
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who's going to the pro bo who has like.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
So, I don't see a scenario where Thibodo comes back
on Joe.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Hey, we might, we might get Thibido down in Uh
you old Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
It's not gonna be cheap.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
Jodn put the word out on. Jodn.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
Put the word out man, Joe not playing one thing.
You don't want. You know, management does not want their
franchise quarterback upset. The message was loud and clear. Now
he said it in a way where it's goddamn cryptic.
But those who understand, if you know, you know, if
you know you know, it doesn't need to be explained.
And hey, I said Jeffrey Simmons a message on Instagrams.
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He didn't respond.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
I don't like to be ignored. I know I know
he saw it, or maybe he didn't see it. Yeah,
Jeffrey Simmons, if you see this, I know, I know
you watched the show, because all y'all watch the show.
I see you in Cincinnati next year. All right, well
maybe sometime this off season.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah, oh, Joe, I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
And I'm looking like, you know, when they say it
was it was a lateral, and the official say the
ball went out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Rick Coadalad picked the ball up. What do you mean
it went out of bounds? It didn't, but that's what
the official said.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
And I'm looking at I'm like, hold on, don't I
best my whole TV up trying to go back. I
went back to the dawn start of the game.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
I had.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
I had to go down to I don't know how
it worked on Joe. You know how you could? I
guess you could, like live TV, you could rewind it
just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Man. I tried to do that.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I went all the way back to the front of
the game. I had to come downstairs. I had to
go downstairs to watch TV. Oh yeah, because I look out,
what does they mean it went out about?
Speaker 2 (45:41):
The ball was really dead?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
First of all, the official was right there, he ruled
it complete. I saw I saw the side judge looking
right there. He's like incomplete. I'm like, that's a lateral.
And then he came on and say the ball went
out of bounds.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
It didn't go out of I don't know what they
were looking at, but I know one thing. I'm not
one to criticize referees.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
But come on nine, Come on nine.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
If they were greater tonight, they got to have a
DF ain't no explanation. I guarantee you watch the NFL
or Mike Pirero or watch him come out and say
there was some calls that we missed and we apologize.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
I guarantee you. I guarantee you that happened. Watch Monday morning.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Yes, I'm looking at the guy.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I'm looking at Alan, who's an official, and I'm like,
what do you mean the ball went out of bounds.
I'm looking go back and look at it. You can
see it playing this day. If I'm not gonna saying
I think it was a black guy he's doing. He's like, yeah, complete.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
I'm like, but that's a literal. It's like I was
almost as if they don't know the game. Damn there.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Oh y'all.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
This is what Alan said and was asking after the
game whether erroneous whistle was blown, which should have given
the path of the choice to replay the down. What
was reported to me was the ruling on the field
was he backwards passed, and once it was possessed the
receiver or gave himself up with the by rule caused
the player to become dead. Because of the erroneous whistle,
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the panther could have had a choice of a replay
but down. Well but see, ojo, that's why you see
guys always they get the ball to take off running,
blowing with a you can, I can come back.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
But see that's what I'm saying. He should have just
picked it up, but he but see, no it didn't.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
He routed it incomplete as soon as the ball hit
the ground, the officially incomplete.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
But that's not what you said.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
They listen, they're not even on the same page. That's
how you know something, right, But he did, o.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Joe, because when when he picked the ball up in
the door anything, it's like giving yourself up. So right, yeah, absolutely, yeah,
I don't want no second in sixteen okay, yeah, right
right right? He said what was relayed to him? Well
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who relayed that? I say, y'all get calls from secacas
all the time. Why didn't why why did you get
that call? Because if given a choice to replay it
on your you were first and ten or second and
sixteen ten?
Speaker 5 (48:16):
Hold on, let me get some of this liquor real quick.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, this was it made.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Anytime a game is this close, uh you know, you
know it's a fort it's a what a fourteen sixteen
ball game?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
And the call, the the.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
The egreeciousness of the calls that and the people that
will see this is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
And I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
When when you're in it, when you playing, those thoughts
never come across your mind.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
I promise you. I never.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I never thought like damn. I was like, man, that
was a bad call. But now when I just see
this stuff, just like bro, what what?
Speaker 2 (49:02):
What the hell?
Speaker 1 (49:06):
When you say the man tripped and the man tripped
over his own damn feet and you.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Call that p I.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
But that's that's but congratulates to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
I'm not hating, you know, I'm not hating.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
I mean, even as a fan, if you're a Bucks
fan and you see what you saw, what you're saying,
I know you want to go, you want to roof
for your team, But if you agree with some of
those calls you saw tonight, and like come on, now,
come on now.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
No, And like I said, there are three or four calls,
and they was so obvious you got to give them
a down the ball who relayed that the ball would
have okay, who relaid that clearly it was a lateral,
and you said incomplete? Hmm, give them an opportunity to
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play the down over. I'm sure they would have taken
first and ten as opposed to second and sixteen. Yeah,
that I mean, those are times that I wish Selcacas
would end a bean. Give them an opportunity to replay
blah blah blah, so furth and soul and let them
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replay the down because what happened it was a lateral.
It was ruled and complete. It was the same thing
that happened in Seattle in the rams. The only difference
here is o Joe Charbono picked them all up in
the end zone. So you didn't have no choice but
to give him the two point play even though they
had ruled it. They had ruled it dead, and see
(50:35):
they go back and review it. Why did y'all go
back and review that?
Speaker 5 (50:38):
You know? Why? Damn shame.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Ohto even I Brice Young leads the Panther to the playoffs,
the organization might not be ready to commit long term.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
The Pathers have a decision to make on the young
fifth year option.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
Es N Jeremy Fowler reported Sunday that the exit the
expectation is that the Panthers will pick up the option,
but for now they're not considering a long term deal.
Absolutely not. A long term deal is somewhere between fifty
and sixty five million dollars. I'm not giving him that.
Speaker 5 (51:12):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure I'm.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Gonna pick up that option for twenty six.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
The Panthers will pick up Brice Young's fifty year option
for twenty six point five million, which is a serious
bargain for a quarterback in the market. That would put
him under contract until twenty twenty seven, but would then
most likely want to see more. The brain trucks will
get together this offseason, look at the full body of
work over the last two years and fill it out
where he could what he could do. They're open to
the long term, but I don't expect the fifth year deal,
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a five year deal to come in the next couple
of months.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
I don't either, you know, honestly, honestly, when you thinking
about it, on. I understand him, not one give him
fifty to fifty five million, but he can have a
team friendly contract similar to that of Sam Donald. You know,
depending on how he looks next year, if you pick
up that fifth year option. I think if you can
continue to build and put pieces around Bryce Young, I
think he can be competent. And he's showing he he's
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shown he can be the guy for that team. I mean,
he's not Josh Allen, he's not Lamar Jackson, not Joe Burrow.
But for the Carolina Panthers, Bryce Young is the answer.
All you have to do is continue to put pieces
around him and he will be fine. When he was
at Alabama, he was just fine. Why was he find
Alabama because look at it, but he had around him
just continued just continue to be That's yeah.
Speaker 5 (52:25):
I mean, he's never.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Going to be just so damn small. O.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Joe, tell me the guy, tell me the guy that
you've seen that size, that height, that size that Oh Joe,
he ain't a hundred, he might be one hundred.
Speaker 5 (52:39):
Fred height, Fred Markington, Fred.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Fred Targan was tall.
Speaker 5 (52:45):
Fred Tarkin like sixty one Bright Bryce Young six.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
To one, Bryce Young five to nine five nine five
to nine five on the Arizona Cardinals. Didn't have no
problem paying Cayler Murray.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
How that worked out for I want you chat, you see,
I'll do it chat.
Speaker 5 (53:09):
He's earned that. He's earned that, especially especially since he's
been benched and the way he's been playing. Who else
could have came in? Listen they nine and seven? Well,
after the ninth game they nine and eighty.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
I don't I don't see another quarterback out there that
could have come on this team and he's done.
Speaker 5 (53:27):
I don't see anybody in the draft.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
I agree that that's that promising that can come in
and change the face of the organization and take Bryce
Young Spock and Bryce Young spot and do that much better.
I think Young Bully has earned the right to be
to get a long term deal. It doesn't have to
be Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson numbers.
Speaker 5 (53:46):
It could be.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
But see if that's not what his agent is thinking.
Because what you're trying to do, you're not trying to
stop stop the market. You tried to explod it.
Speaker 4 (53:55):
So what can you do now that that that now
that no, no, now see don't don't don't be like that.
The agent should not be trying to reset the market.
You know, you don't have to reset the market type quarterback.
He's not in a reset the market type position.
Speaker 5 (54:09):
You're not.
Speaker 4 (54:10):
Let's let's let's let's play fair. Let's let's let's be realistic.
I want I want him to get his money.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
You know, But come on, nine, they list Bryce Young
at five ten, if they list you at five ten
on Joe hot.
Speaker 5 (54:26):
Tall, are you actually probably five five nine?
Speaker 2 (54:32):
Boy? Look here two of five? Oh yo, you think that? Man?
I weigh you.
Speaker 5 (54:37):
No, I'm too ten right now.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
I doubt that. So you think he five pounds less
than you at five to nine?
Speaker 5 (54:43):
How much do you think he is by what I mean?
Speaker 2 (54:45):
I'm asking you.
Speaker 5 (54:46):
I think honestly, he probably about maybe one night, probably one.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Five one night.
Speaker 5 (54:55):
You know, you know he's good. He's good at that size.
He was that size of Alabama, you know.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
And yes, and there are a lot of quarterbacks that
played well in college that didn't do well in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
I like that. Uh, what's the dude.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Sam Bradford, he won a Heisman trophy, Jason White won
a Heisman trophy, Eric Crouch won a Heisman trophy. Tim
Tebow won a Heisman Trophy. There are a lot of
guys that wan't that that that played really really well
in college. Just because you played well in college doesn't
mean it's gonna translate. What about Tavon Ousta did his translate?
(55:33):
He was He's electric in the in college? Yea must
see TV.
Speaker 5 (55:43):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
I wanted.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
I really would like to know. I really would like
to put a scale. I would like to see him.
I mean, oh, Joe, he is a thing theme and
he I mean, oh, look at it.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
I'm trying to think and in chat, y'all, y'all forgive
me chat. Maybe y'all can help me out. I'm trying
to think of quarterbacks that have been in the NFL
that have been similar to Bryce's young size.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
Dove fluted Bingo, there we go. What you mean, bing go?
Speaker 5 (56:17):
Doug?
Speaker 6 (56:18):
You putting your homes on dog fluting that that flooty
with nice uh dove fluty has some.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Moments.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Now, Oh Joe, I'm not paying you no damn sixty
million dollars for no damn moments.
Speaker 5 (56:31):
See you see you going to sixty I told you,
I say he can be somewhere between.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
I'm okay, So how much should I how much? What's
the going rate?
Speaker 4 (56:38):
Listen for Bryce Young thirty five year, thirty five year.
That's team friendly. Yeah, that ain't bad, that's good.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
That good money? Now yeah what you think? No, I
don't know if you take it, but it sounds like
good money.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
How much?
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Looking see Drew Reeves, how much did you breeze way?
Drew Brees was was was sturdy.
Speaker 5 (57:03):
Brees big bone down't count he big bone?
Speaker 2 (57:11):
So so y'all?
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Now, of all the quarterbacks, Drew Brees is gonna be
the smallest quarterback ever to end into the Hall of
Fame and the one hundred plus year history. Drews about
Drew probably about five eleven.
Speaker 5 (57:23):
Yeah, tall all hell, he didn't look tall. Tried to
throw it looked like he was looking over the line
to make the past.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
He would say. His help was sitting on top of
his head like that right there. So he's seeing the
funded his face mask.
Speaker 5 (57:43):
Ah, man, I mean Briceton put the work in man.
He he deserves his day. He deserves his day.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
They talk about Warren Moon, tall as hell.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
Yeah, I played I played with war when played against
him with the Pro Bowls with him. War Moons like
six three like two twenty five. I don't know why
y'all thought Warren was small, Yeah, Russell, But y'all see
how Stocky run Rush rus Russe rustbild like a s Yes,
(58:27):
do y'all see how y'all looking at Russ. Y'all see
Brce Young. They not comparable as far as size. They
might be comparable as far as height, but size, That's
what I'm saying when I look as hot as what
he is.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
But he need to gain some weight.
Speaker 5 (58:46):
No, he can't gave rus He can't gain.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
No weight un I mean, I mean his frame, his
frame is really not conducing.
Speaker 5 (58:54):
For frame, his frame and him actually putting on weight
that might do more harm than good. It might do
more harm than good. I think.
Speaker 4 (59:01):
For for Bryce, he's a sides He's going to be
the way his frame is. You can only put on
so much muscle, if anything. He just needs to be
able to lift and get as strong as possible to
prevent himself from getting hurt and to be able to
withstand and last hold on. He's been available, He's been
available at his side.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
I'm looking at look at Russ from waist down, look
at look at Bryce Young from waist down.
Speaker 5 (59:28):
Now you tell me to come completely different, completely different.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
Completely different body types. Russ and Drew Brees are more similar.
Speaker 5 (59:39):
Mm hmm, hold on, look at I agree, I agree
with you, but I got one to tell you.
Speaker 4 (59:46):
Lamar Jackson is thinned. He's just a little taller, and
obviously he's much faster than Bryce Young.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
You do realize Lamar played at two twenty five one
year and he dropped back down to two fifteen.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
Right then, Lamar with that big Yes, remember he lost
all that way.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
You remember how Lamar came out there almost like you're like, damn, hey,
hold on two as Mar had got him like two
twenty five thirty.
Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
That two twenty five is to size. Come on, now,
I'm telling you, go back, go back, chat.
Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
Somebody got somebody got to show me a picture of
that two twenty five.
Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
But also, look how tall Lamar is Lamar, how much
of Lamar Jackson waiting? Now? He probably two fifteen right now,
But Lamar was like two twenty five, two thirty a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
Damn, man, hey, bamn, I don't remember that, Yes, yeah,
I don't remember that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
He listened at two or five? What was a couple
of years we won't be able to find that out.
What's that, Joe? I mean Lamar's oh.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Week, absolutely absolutely, I mean, I'm just I'm I'm just
I'm just speaking body tighter.
Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
And twenty twenty two, Oh Shoe, he was two thirty
two fifteen and twenty three he dropped down to two
o five. I told you, yes, man, you don't remember
when when he can't he showed back up for Oka
and Lamar had had it.
Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Yes, I thought it was just in the weight room.
I ain't, you know, I ain't.
Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
But when you but when you when you have height,
you can put some weight on.
Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Pat Ryder was telling the story that when they traded
for Shaq, when Shaq showed hup, he put him on
the scale.
Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Shock was three eighty three oh three eighty three.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Man, do you know you've seen shock?
Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
But three is shocked. Not the biggest man you've ever
seen the person?
Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
Yes, how much did Desmond watching Wade?
Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
Okay, okay, four, I have tot but he tall and
he's six five.
Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Oh seven to one. That's why basketball players don't, Joe,
they can put on weight like that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
You see, big.
Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Baby, Yeah, yeah he he looks short on the court though, man,
big baby like six four six five short to you?
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
You do realize Miles guarant like six four yeah, but six.
Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
Fold that's short. And for NBA, NBA were talking about
we talking about NBA though shire Steph Curry sixty.
Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Three, Hey Chad, y'all to go to the Ravens dot
com and look it up. No, but Shaq said one
time he was four hundred shack if Oh Joe, do
you realize I mean, look at the big show.
Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
Okay, now that's a big boy.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Okay, so get tall taller than him. So magine Andre
the Giant.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
I mean, I wish I could have seen Andrea Giant
to really because when you were a kid and you
see somebody, that's all.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Everybody looked big.
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
But Andrea Jihant was seven, was seven four or five
hundred five twenty five?
Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
Andreda giant, remember andredda Giant who Koku had that wrestling match?
Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Yeah, I was, I was a classic.
Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
That's I mean you.
Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I mean, like I said, I wish I could see
him now to really get a true sense of just
how big he was, because when you like five six
years old, everybody looked big.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
O' yoe. So you don't really you don't really get.
Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
A sense of just how big andred the giant is,
how tall League lists Big Baby at They said Big
Baby like six seven O yo, damn. They got Big
Baby listed at sixty nine O joe, damn.
Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Hey, unc, so that means he really six.
Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
But think about it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
But see when Big Baby came out even at like nineteen,
look out solid he wore big boy.
Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Yes damn.
Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Hey, you know, I man, and I almost said the
N word. But them boys be so tall in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Boy, yes, so you can like the only guy ain't
got to worrybout nothing is Kevin Durant, Karen Ran, Kevin Durant.
He ain't gonna never be doing Kevin duran is gonna
be like green you know what, he'd be sixty seventy
eighty years old.
Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Gonna be like that too.
Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Wimby, who huh, yes, the same boy. Can you imagine
if women game could games away? Women be five.
Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Hundred, you know, when I think about it, Yanna's came
in and Yannis looked like Kevin Durant and Wimby at
one point, and he put on muscle.
Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah, because because Janni's wasn't gonna be able to shoot
the ball like Kevin Durant, so he had to be
able to get down here. Kevin Durant said, I ain't
trying to bang with you guys. I'm gonna stand right
out here, shoot the threes, take it down to the block.
I should get to the MIDI if I need to
get to the rim, I will, But I don't need
to do all that.
Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Again.
Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
Look at Zion, hey boy, if he could lose, he
hurt again. Still, huh.
Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
I think he's back now. I think I think he's back.
I think he got back. He got nicked again, but
I think he's back.
Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
He needs They need to let him come on down
here to Miami.
Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
No, they don't
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