Nightcap Hour 1: Shedeur Sanders Gets WIN & DOESN’T RECEIVE Game BALL + Raiders FIRE Chip Kelly + Eagles FUMBLE WIN vs Cowboys

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to a wild day of Sunday football! The Los Angeles Rams blow out the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday Night Football, Shedeur Sanders makes his first NFL start for the Cleveland Browns and go to Las Vegas to beat the Raiders, the Dallas Cowboys overcome a 21 point deficit to beat the Philadelphia Eagles and much more!

04:30 - Rams beat Buccaneers
7:34 - Browns beat Raiders
48:38 - Cowboys beat Eagles

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us
as you watch the Los Angeles Rams, the NFC leading
Los Angeles Ram thump the Tampa Bay Buccaneers by the
score of thirty four to seven. I'm not so sure
that's not the best team in all of football, regardless
of conference, but they did make it look relatively easy.
And Matthew Stafford strengthened his hold on the NFL's MVP,

(01:50):
tossing three another three touchdowns with zero interceptions.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oho.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Now he's at thirty touchdowns with two interceptions and he
has the best record in the NFC.

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the Rams beat the Buccaneers by the score of thirty
four to seven, Baker. Mayfield left the game early due
to a left shoulder injury. He did not return. He
was spotted on the sideline were in a sling. Teddy

(03:21):
Bridgewater came in and filled in for him. But the
Rams did a great job. They were clicking on all
syllliners from an offensive standpoint, and then when they fell behind,
they could hunt those two edge rushers and that great
front foward that the Rams normally have going all the
way back to the fearsome forceing with Merlin Olsen, Deacon Jones,
Lamar Lundy and Rode the great Rosie Grier. They got after,

(03:43):
they got after Baker, they got after Teddy Bridgewater, and
they win going away. They scored thirty one points in
the first half and they cruise in the second half.
Only scored three, but that was all they needed because
the Bucks didn't score at all.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Oh Joe watching this game.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Matthew Stafford twenty five or thirty five, two seventy three,
two touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
They didn't run the ball particularly well.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Nineteen carries for seventy yards, Pookah not seven catches ninety
seven yards. Excuse me, Davonte Adams five for sixty two
Tubs Parkinson had four for forty one and a touchdown.
But when you look at this team, they can run
it with Kyen Williams and Blake, or they can we
know they can throw it with Puka and those weapons

(04:24):
that they have and Matthew Stafford at the helm Ojo.
What is it what you like so much about when
you watch the Rams, you watch them play and they
do this every single week. So this is not, you know,
an admiration or anything like that, anomaly. This is who
they are. This is what they do.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Listen. This is importance of having a quarterback. This is
important of having a quarterback obviously considered a gun slinger
at MVP, a Super Bowl winning quarterback, and you can
make a team one dimensional. They couldn't run the ball,
but they threw that motherfucker all over I'm sorry, they
threw the ball all over the place. They did what
they wanted to do. Pooka eaton Davante Listen, I'm not

(05:00):
even what was Tampa Bay doing. Why are they leaving
DeVonta Adams sing it up over there? And man, the
man knowing good will, ain't nobody be able to stick
with him. He's going touchdowns all over the place, and
making it look really easy, especially if you watch it,
if you watch it from TV, like, but god damn,

(05:20):
if you know he.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Hit oh Joe, they know he gon hit it with.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
That pause every time. Hey listen, and once you relax,
once he hitts with that heavy, once you relaxed, he
take off. It's a dune deal. But by outside of that, man,
they look really good. Man, they look really really good,
really really sharp. Matt Stafford is good. The man man
didn't play and he ain't even have he even go

(05:44):
to training camp. No, he didn't even go to training camp.
So to be able to come out here and play
like this all season long. You know, they nine to
two now, right, record in the NFC. They're gonna be
hell to deal with. Bro NFC now.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Because Seattle look good.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I mean that that division you got them, You got
Seattle and you got the forty nine ers. The forty
nine ers have the best record within the division. They're
four and one in the division. Yeah, so they have
the best record. They just don't have the best overall records.
They did get prety back. Christian McCaffrey is healthy. They're
doing a lot with Kettle and I you, uh, it's

(06:24):
gonna be interesting when if when they get Piersol back,
if he's coming back. Defensively, they're trying to, you know,
trying to mix and match. They were out their two
best players, Fred Warner and h and Nick Bosa. But
they're making it for some somehow, some way, they're making
it work. But the Rams make light work of the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers tonight, run their record to nine and
two thanks to a thirty four to seven victory over

(06:47):
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa falls to six and five.
Baker Mayfield was injured in the ball game. Obviously he's
gonna probably get an MRI and see what's going on
with that shoulder. Hopefully it's not something that's long term.
But Tampa, Tampa looked didn't look good tonight. They couldn't
run the football, they didn't throw the ball. They didn't
really do anything well. And that had a lot to

(07:08):
do with the Rams, not so much what they didn't do.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
What a Rams put so much pressure, they're playing so
much pressure out the gate.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah so they can get after you, now.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Oh yeah, absolutely so. They kept making Baking Mayfield uncomfortable,
didn't allow him to sit in the pocket he had
to run and scram before his life. He had to
extend plays. He did the best he could, but at
the end of the day, it was nearly not enough,
not even close.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
That's all we're gonna do with that, because here's the
game that everybody wants to talk about. The Browns beat
the Las Vegas Raiders by the score of twenty four
to ten. Shadorge Sanders became the forty second quarterback to
start a game for the Browns since they came back
into the league in nineteen ninety nine. He also became
the first Browns quarterback to win his first career start
in the NFL since Eric Zire.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Did it back in nineteen ninety five.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
The victory in the seventeen game losing streak for Browns
in games in which their quarterback was making their first
career start.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
That was the longest streak.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
By any franchise since nineteen fifty when quarterback starts were
first recorded. The wins snapped their thirteen game rode losing
streak for the Browns, which was also the longest active
streak in the NFL and their second longest enfranchise history.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Shador was eleven.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Of twenty two hundred and nine yards with one touchdown
and an interception. He was, look, they didn't run the
football with nothing, twenty seven rushes sixty seven yards with
Ojoe his ability and he's looking the thing that you
have to like about him. He's looking to push the
ball down the field. He realized, I don't catch big
fishing around the shore. I need to cast way out there.

(08:47):
You see he rolls out of the pocket, frozen over
the top. He's gonna give those guys an opportunity to
make plays. I was very impressed with him. And I
know what everybody said. It wasn't nobody but the Raiders.
But had they lost, gonna say, well, he can't beat
the Raiders, how is he gonna beat this team? That team, Well,
we won't know how we'll do against this team with
that team because we know the team that he played today.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
He well, listen, I'm a I'm a it was a Raiders,
it was a Raters. But what I saw from doing tonight,
I mean tonight, it looked good. There's there's room for improvement.
There's something that he could do well.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
He would also need his his supporting cast to help
him out. Jerry Judy, I know you want a dead leg, baby,
but just go ahead and get a young boys. Just
go ahead and get out of the bounds, get them
yards that there was some throws I know she would
probably probably want to have back, especially that interception, you know,
staring down, staring down that stick route right at the
snap of the ball outside. Especially when you can't run

(09:49):
the ball. You can't run the ball and make it dimensional.
It's very very difficult. It's very very difficult. But they were,
they were, they were able to pull the win off.
I'm sure Shador is probably not happy. He glad he
got the win, But there's a lot of stuff you
can go back and look at, and he'll watch film
and see where he can improve on, improve in certain areas.
And I like the fact that he not only got

(10:11):
a start, he made his history today. He made here today,
and he gets to build on that going into next week.
I'm not sure what's gonna happen with Theefanski, if Dylan
Gabriel's healthy, if he's going to be the starter or not.
You know how they stuff like that is up in
the air. So I like the way he looked today.
I mean, I mean, I'm excited for him. I'm excited
for him because the offense looked different. It just looked different.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
They had a bounce about him. If you think about it.
They got and the defense did their part. They sacked
Gino Smith ten times. Oh Joe, ten, it was ten.
Ten Miles Garrett had three Miles. Garrett has eighteen sacks
with six games to play. Five more, right, five more
to break your record. If you keep singling, he gonna
get thirty. He's got thirteen sacks in the last four games.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Oh that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, yeah, he gets in that sprint of stance. He
getting down like a track and getting down on.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
The all fours.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
He comeing to hunt a quarterback. But I like the
fact that your door was looking to push the ball
down the field. And I think that's what they needed, guys,
because having been a receiver, Bro, I want to get
down the field. I want to hey, thought about, Hey, look,
I want to catch the ball. But all this shallow
cross and all these bubble screens and all that.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Come on, man, it's hard to.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Methodically go down the field. Oh, Jo, you know, and
we're gonna talk about this. The Chiefs going down the field.
They had thirteen seventeen twelve and they kicking field goals.
But it's hard, especially when you got a young quarterback
and to ask him to be perfect. Tom Brady could
play like that. That's Tom Brady. He's not gonna make
those mistakes. But you're asking a first or second year

(11:51):
got young quarterback to say, okay, we want you to
be Basically we end up being somewhere of twenty five
or thirty three for two hundred seventy five yard three touchdown. Nah,
you're asking him to do too much. Let him take
some chances, and I thought you do it. Did a
great job of getting outside the pocket on the one
day scored on Ojoe, he did a great job. He
goes back, he's holding his safety just like this here

(12:15):
last second he turns, and so by the time that
guy catches and gets up to say, you like, hold on,
if I come downhill, I ain't gonna get there.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
So let me try to get him at a Nah,
I ain't gonna be able to.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Get him because basically when he hit that scene bo Joe,
yeah it was good night Irene.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
It was a rap. Yeah, it was but.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Level of twenty I mean, and he was like, hey,
that's one week of starting. Imagine when I get an
off season, Imagine when that call plays specifically for me. Imagine, yeah,
who's that? John Lennon said, imagine all the people. But
I thought he played really well. I thought he was
really poor poised. I thought, I know, it was great

(12:57):
to see his dad was in attendance at times like well,
I don't know, man, you know, Goodwill. Time wasn't missing
that one for nothing in the world. They could have
been playing if Colorado had a game today, Yeah, Time
would have like, man, you know, hey, I ain't feeling
too well.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
It would have snuckle when snuck out here in Vegas
to watch your son.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
And that was that was great because you know, this
is really the first time that his dad's not coaching it.
His dad's not around. Picking up the phone is one thing,
but being able to have a conversation face to face,
it's something entirely different. But I really really pleased with
the way he played. I thought he threw the ball
really really well. Isaiah Bond did a great job. Samson

(13:37):
what he called that? Yet I long that sixty six yarder,
Like you said, Jared Judy, bro did you think he
was like, I mean, he was.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Just oblivis like, ain't nobody behind me?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Listen. I don't know what Judy was think about. I
don't know how you forget about the goddamn backside so much.
And you know, for Sue, you know they coming, now,
you know they coming? Hey, listen, I'm not sure it
was three defensits in front of him, yes, and he
would getting ready to dead leg somebody. I know the setup,
But you gotta understand, you gotta have self awareness, understandings

(14:09):
surround us. Man, get that thing, get out, make a
bit of decision, or take your ass out of bounds
one of the other.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, yeah, get out of bounds. But look, I know
the receivers are happy. Oh guys, he's giving them opportunity
to make plays over the top all that shallow cross
and bubble screens and all that we talked about earlier, Ojo.
This gives him an opportunity to push the ball down
the field and give them an opportunity to make some
big plays. After the game, Kevin Stefanski was noncamental on

(14:36):
the starting quarterback for next Sunday's home game against the
forty nine ers Ojo. The video is gone viral online.
Here's Stefanski handing out game balls in the locker room
after the game.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Stay resilient together, Like I told you we needed to write,
Stay resilient.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Together, and we fought together.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
How about Gage's big part returnal specialty. How about Corey
every single time out there, pinning those guys doing your job.
Great offense, wasn't perfect, wasn't perfect? How about that big
play by save it at the end. I'd be huge play, Hugh,

(15:19):
huge play, Harold making a big play and then another
rookie making his first start, nice jomp Shador.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well there's that.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Old saying save the best for last. How about that defense?
Holy is what I have to say about that? Ten
sacks by our defense.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Okay, I got one ball in my hand. Okay, I
got a guy he's got to get a cold every week. Okay,
you had a cold this week. Wasn't feel himself.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Three sacks, which gives him eighteen on the season through
eleven games. Through eleven games, which breaks his own Browns record.
Miles Garrett. So I'll see you guys into Hey, y'all see.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
You what.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I age?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
So hold on, Yeah, I'm making his first start. A
yeah that you didn't really want to start? A guy
that you didn't even want your organization, right, right, that's
all he did, great.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Johnson, Yeah, that's you don't get no game ball.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Now, he don't get no game ball. That wasn't his pick.
That's not what they want. They don't want him to succeed.
You know that. That no respect the owner told you.
They only told you to himself. Even the head coach,
the head coach guy, the head coaches guy is Dylan Gabriel.
We all understand that. Listen, didn't you do it? Make
history tonight?

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
First rounds quarterback as a rook at the start and
win after what?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Since what seventeen?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I mean you got to think about o Jo. They've
had forty two starting quarterbacks since nineteen ninety nine, right,
no quarterback making his first start. Yeah, the last seventeen
has said.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
We didn't do it, they didn't get it done. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Well, listen, it's Clear's day. Now, it's Clear's day. Like
I mean, we've been going back and forth about this
over and over and let nit picking here and there.
People people say, oh they hate, they're not hating. Oh,
Dylan Gables, listen all that we know what the play is.
The writing is on the wall. It's always been in
the wall. When the when the owner came out and
said what he said about this not being my pick.

(17:23):
This is brother Drew Barry, Drew Berry, right, is that
he said? Andrew Barry, Andrew Berry. Excuse me, Andrew Barry
was it was? It was his pick, It was his idea.
I mean, we know what it is. You know, the
adds are stacked against you, The odds are stacked against you.
When the opportunity presents itself. He has to go out
there and do what he did. Do what he did.
The odds were stacked against him. He went out there

(17:43):
and had a good game today, much much more room
for improvement. But he gave him the opportunity to win.
He allows him to have a different style of offensive
play calling when he's out there playing, and that's all
he can do.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Oh Joe, I ain't saying you got to get a
man are I ain't say that. I ain't say you
got to pick the man up on it. Hey, I
ain't saying the team need to pick him up on
his shoulders and carry.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Him off the field.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
But that little bit, oh, you talk about big time
catch hold on and this is not a knock on
you have fanning, so don't please don't take it in
this way. He had four catches for forty yards. I
mean he made two big. I mean Shadua played his
ass off level twenty eight, had an interception. I thought

(18:29):
he was very good. I thought he was very good
with his eyes. I thought he was very good with
his feet. Everything was attached. And that's all you got
for the man. Miles Garrett deserved five. All the football
that you brought to clif brought the Vegas, give him
to it. Say so, we're gonna ship ball all four
of these damn football to your house at Cleveland, Miles Garrett. Whatever,

(18:49):
Miles Garrett won't. As a matter of fact, Miles you
under pay. Take your hands back of that getting more caught. Hey,
you need to get fifty million, and he'll get this
record as long as the Browns are able to keep
the game close where teams can't just run front the ball.
Excuse me, excuse me, as long as that as long
you see he got five last week. Why because for

(19:10):
the large part a large portion of the game, they
had to lead. So if the team got the lead
on what you gotta do back in the game where
you see what happened to night They jumped out on
the fourteen another fourteen three.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Now you got the players ball.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
You can't first of all, your run game is not
good enough, and your offensive line but not good enough
to blow people off the ball, so you got to
throw it. And they got a good enough defensive line
that you can't just double. I'm doubling Miles Gart somebody
else might get three sacs, but it ain't gonna be him. Him,
because he's a guy that you game playing. Oh yo,
we going there on Wednesdays. They got him circle, he

(19:43):
got red ink around him. This is the guy that
if we don't block, he gonna tear our ass up.
He will destroy our game plan run or pass. With
that being said, that man couldn't flip you doing football.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
O yo, you know the man wasn't flipping him no football.
You know what man that that is not the individual
that they want at the Helm. They made that clear
long time ago, the game that they've been playing in
training camp. Him not getting reps. We understand that. So
therefore them you actually wanted him to give him credit
after the game, that ain't happening. So to me, it's

(20:19):
it's not surprising to me because okay, we already know,
we already know what it is. We know, we know
you're not our guy. I think Shador even knows that
as well. He's not tripping. I'm gonna prepare myself so
when the opportunity presents itself, the end result looks like today,
the most important stat that w That's all that matters
on listen on the next week. I see you Wednesday, Oh.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Joe, you and I have both been in situation. And
I know y'all probably the last guy that y'all want
to hear dating advice from.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
But we've all had, We've all had the young lady,
Oh Joe. She was gorgeous, drop dead gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, come on, wait, take your time.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
She I wanted her so bad, Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
But when it didn't work out, I realized the other
one she was the best for me, and I needed
to give her credit.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Because the one that I wanted it didn't work out.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I understand Stefansk wont Dylan Gabriel, but you got to
understand the guy now is the best for you, and
it's gonna give you the best opportunity to win because
he is unafraid to push the ball down the bill,
because in this league that's how you win big plays.

(21:39):
I just I don't get it, Oh Joe, Sometimes you gotta,
like coach used to tell us, sometimes, I got a
fool of Sometimes you gotta lie to your team, even
if you don't like your doing, even if you won't,
Dylan Gabriel, you won't commit.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I get all that, and I get the semantics. I
get the.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Scheme of it, Oh Joe, I don't want I want
them to prepare for both knowing damn well, Dylan Gabriel
ain't gonna see that field anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I get all of that, right, But this notion.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
That this thing is even close, this notion that this
was just a whole, I mean, a whole hum performance.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
The guy got no snaps with the guys that he
played with today until.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Wednesday of last week.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, and he.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Does that on the road in a hostile environment, and
all you got for him is that.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, I mean, that's what it is. And the one
thing about it, Listen, you have to understand coaches had
egos too. The owner has an ego too. The owner
and the coach not in caadhoots, but they both wanted
their quarterback. They got their quarterback in the third round. Things,
things happen, things that work out. Dylan Gabriel is hurt
right now. There is no way in hell they gonna

(22:56):
sit on their hands and show the world that they
made a mistake. Ain't no way, ain't nowhere in hell.
That's not happening.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
It Happenso it's not happening.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
All made mistakes. The thing is not making a mistake.
Do you learn from it? Because remember, oh Joe mistakes
with our consequences, there's no lesson to be learned.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
You have to understand. But how many consequences that they
had in the last work forty forty some years? This
is this is the forty fifth start. This is the
forty fifth starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns since nineteen
I don't even.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Know forty different starting quarterback.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
That's forty some quarterback. So obviously they haven't learned their
lesson regards to who the owner is, who grows, who
the head coach is, and that's how they see fit.
We're going to continue to prove that we made the
right pick in the third round by doing goddamn she
do or saying this somewhat of an injustice and what

(23:53):
they're trying to do is likely. The likelihood is probably
going to backfire. It's probably gonna backfire and not working
their favor.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
All I'm saying is this, I believe the young man
played well enough today to earn another start, no matter
what you think about it, whether you like him or
dislike him, whether you like his brashness, his arrogance, or
his cockyess, or whatever the case may be.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I don't know whether you like or dislike his father.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
All I know is he played well enough today and chat, hey,
chat Cleveland Browns fans. At any point in time, did
Dylan Gabriel play in his starts as well as your
door play today? That's all I'm asking. That's what you
have to look at. Why'd you judge the starter, Joe.
I'm not saying a starter can lose They said a
starter can't lose his job due to injury. Mike Shanahan

(24:38):
said a starter can lose his job because if the
guy comes in and he's playing better than you at
the time you got injured, that is our new starter.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
I have a question, Yes, I have a question. Before
Dylan Gabriel had that concussion, he played six games right,
he plays in six.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Games, yes, the best of my knowledge, yes.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Okay, at six games. So I mean it would be
hard to compare com pair of the two based on
real time, real NFL games until we have Shadur play
sick games as well.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
See.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
The point is where Stefanski and that organization allows Shador
to continue to play the games because they don't want
him to prove them wrong. That's what they don't want.
That's why I think the game that them the Fancy's
gonna played is he gonna find out if Dylan Gaber
will he be able to go this week? So we're
not on the wrong, on the on the wrong side

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of being right.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
How about that being wrong, O Joe instead of them,
instead of him, let him play because maybe he proves
you right.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Maybe all of a sudden he flops. I don't believe it.
Will I believe that.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I believe the kid had two months MAXI I believe
that he believes and the way he was brought up
in and what his dad has instilled in him, and
he wants to be great, not because of his father.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
He's like my father did what he did?

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, but he can't throw no passes for me? No,
he can't slide the line. He can't reach anything for me.
Everything that I'm getting now is because it's my own
I'm doing this. Should do it, Sanders, And I love
my father, I love the last name that he bestole,
the pun me.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
But at the end of the day, he can't throw
no passes.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
You do realize him on that owner and that head
coach don't want to be made to look like a
fool by putting this well by there and having twelve
continuoency win you games. You do realize that, right, make me.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Look like a food to help me get to the playoffs,
make me look like a fool, and make me be
a consistent winner, make me look like a damn food,
and maybe potentially get me to the man.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Do you look do you know if that if you're
doing what.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
To get that, get that team into the playoffs, get
to the ABC Championship game.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I'm not talking about this year.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
I'm talking about let's just say in the next five years,
if he were to do that and take that team
to a super Bowl, they'll build a statue. Yeah, I
mean it'll be Jim Brown, Otto Graham.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Should do it, Sanders, You do realize the owner would
look like a fool. You do realize the fancy will
look like a fool. They do not want young bulls
to succeed.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Well, if fans think the damn food now to begin with,
So it don't matter what you look like, they.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Already think you are.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, all you would do by keep keeping this going
because you know, sometimes you got to keep your mind
closed because people will know how big a damn fool
you are. Because I said, boy, keep your mind closed.
Sometimes people might thank you a fool. But if you're
open your mind, you're you'll remove all doubt. So the
Cleveland fans they don't hold mister Haslam and the fans

(27:29):
get in the highest regards. So there's not a whole
lot they can do to change that. Now, if you
want to, if you now, if you really wanted to
go booing and carry it on, take the young man
out of it.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Take the young man. Don't let him start next week.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Hey what now, you know the game these folks play.
You understand you You've been around long enough. So for
him to have the game, he had right to not
only get a game ball, for Stefanski to get in
front of the media and still be noncommitted to who's
gonna be the start the next week? What does that
tell you? We ain't God damn week twelve. We're going

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into week thirteen. There's no need to be playing these
mind games. And if we ain't goddamn training camp, you
don't know who to fucking start. I'm sorry, you don't
know who the start is gonna be. It's a game.
It's a game at this point because that's not who
you actually wanted to help playing quarterback for your franchise,
because you don't want to look like a goddamn fool.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Oh yo. There are very few people.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
They are very very few people with the first person
that rams, they're Bury, Wait who then.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
My grandma say, my grandma.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Say hey, bring that to me, say that to me.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
There are very.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Few people that are that are with the person that
initially ras they're.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Barry, Hey you be driving, Marty.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
See you're like, damn, I ain't never heard that one vote,
you know, don't worry about it.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
But anyway, hold on, hold on, no, no, you don't
skip over with me like that. Give it to me
in English now, o jo right?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Jews yeah, Jews, yeah, yeah, yes, a lot.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
How many people that are married or in a serious relationship,
that person that they're in that relationship, that is the
first person that piqued their curiosity, that is the first
person that they love, that is the first person that
they wanted to be with. Okay, so the third, fourth, fifth,
But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, So in a situation like that, Okay, but you
know what, just for GP, just to endure, to do unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Job, gain ball for you, right, yes, yes, yes, yeah,
you do that when it's actually the person you actually want,
that's a that's a different you understand, that's hold on,
you're using that analogy wrong.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
To no, because my grandma used to say, my grandma
used to.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Say, what you said, Barry, it's it's cherry.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
No raspberry.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
You don't ras my berry, which means he don't excite me,
worry about it, don't jo you'll get it.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Hey, Hey, that that must be some downside I ain't
never heard of. I'm saying down here. It's more like
cherry the first pop my cherry.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
So you yeah, you don't, you don't rasp my berry.
You don't like me.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
I like that. I like that.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
That's different from I.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Get it your door might not might not have excited
them in the beginning. They was more excited about Dylan Gabriel.
But at the end of the day, who makes you wholesome,
who makes you who makes your house feel like a home?
Who when you get excited, when you when when you
need someone to talk to and say, you know what,
I'm gonna love you through all those scars, and I

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know you got a lot of them, but come lay
your head on me, and I'm gonna make it okay.
That's what this young man had the potential of doing.
Give him an opportunity. That's what we because a lot
of times, I get it. We visual men, We are
very visual. H if you exports you a big what
do I see?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Man?

Speaker 1 (30:59):
He could throw the ball all one hundred That's why
they make so many mistakes at the quarterback position on
Joe because what can he do? He can throw them
all eighty yards. I saw him on one knee throw
them all sixty yards and hitting the upright. How many
times he gonna be one knee because if he down
on one knee, that means he down already, So the
ball gonna be incomplete with all that being said. A
lot of times we get in awe about what we see.

(31:21):
Sometimes the esthetic, beauty, long hair, flagship, yet his body,
Oh she got Greek degree stacked.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
On top of the greed. Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
But sometimes it's what's on the inside, is what we
can't see, that's the determining factor.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Tom Brady ain't had no aesthetics. He couldn't run fast,
he couldn't jump high.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yes, sir, he didn't have He didn't have no r
like Mahomes with Josh Allen. But what you couldn't see, yes, sir,
made him deadly. See, sometimes we get we look at
the black mamba. The black mama is not the most
dangerous snake in Africa. It's not even a dangerous as
the bloom slang or the common brown in Australia, or

(32:08):
the western or the coastal taiping. But he has the name.
You see them at the black number. Now he will
attack without provocation. Most snakes that are venomous, they won't
attack without provocation. That's what makes him so deadly because
it is one of the few snakes that will attack
without provocation. May get that man a damn game ball.

(32:30):
It ain't your game ball. Any damn wait, ain't like
you buy no footballs.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
He got me hot up in here.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I see he don't. Don't. Don't let your emotions get
the best say you. Because you think you're mad right now?
You think you mad right now? Wait until Wednesday and
watch the games they play.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh hey, you remember that song Joe if it's making lonely,
now wait until the night. If you think I'm mad now,
like you say, wait until Wednesday, right they talk about
Mary Kay Cabin come out there and says Dylan Gabriel
is take a snap, boy, I'll break up everything.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
I tell you.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I tell you one thing. You might well get the
breaking right now. You might as well get the breaking
right now, because you you understand, you understand the NFL.
You know the games that they play, especially when the
owners come out at the beginning of the season, excuse me,
at the beginning of the season. Matter of fact, in
training camp and saying a certain individual is not his
draft pick. He did say that, Yes, he came out

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and said it. So what does that that lets you
know already what the player is gonna be for the
foresee of your future? As long as twelve is there,
you know what that's like, that's like, you know what,
a father allowing you to marry his daughter and his
daughter always saying, you know what, you is not the
one I really wanted, but my father arranged his marriage.

(33:50):
So I'm here, nigga, I'm here. That's it. That's that's
all it is. It is the same thing. So shador
blocking that out being able to compartment in life. Forget all. Listen,
I'm gonna prepare the same exact way as if you
wanted me, so when my opportunity presents itself, it looks
like it did the day.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Meanwhile, the rest of the locker room seemed to have
a new sense of optimism. Here's Miles Garrett after the
game talking about the fifty two yard bomb that he
that had Miles looking shocked on the sideline because they
had the cameras on him. Let's take a listen to
what Miles Garrett had to say.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
I mean, he put it up and I'm just like,
oh god, who is that even going to even I
wasn't even looking down there the cip and then and
I'm just looking, I'm like, oh god, please, and he
drops it in the bucket and he reaches it out
I'm like, please, just don't fumble into the end zone.
So now he reaches out, he's you know, keeps possession
and I'm just like, wow that There's not many guys

(34:53):
in lead that can make that throw. So that was
a that was a hell of a throw. Now I
hope he can con see to now grow and develop,
you know, for making plays like that, and uh, don't
take it from there.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
All the day I was happy. Yeah, I was saying like.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Dat, Yeah, yeah, Joe, I.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Say, because now somebody else go, they go, they go
to the running back if somebody else gonna get.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
That tug Man. Yeah, I mean it was a beautiful throw, Joe.
I'm talking about it like you said, that's a bucket throw.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah, that was dope, and it's funny. I'm always curious
to when you think about it with him having a
game like today, it's the fancy makes the wrong decision,
which I know he's gonna probably do on Wednesday, is
a chance, even though the season might be gone, him
losing the locker room, him him losing the locker room,

(35:52):
players seeing what's going on, understanding what's going on, and
it's it's blatant. The vetterans will probably say something. They
probably won't say anything publicly, but I mean it can
be bad, it can get, it can.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Get I think the thing the thing is is that
the locker room really runs the football team. We know,
we know who can play and who can't. We do yeah, man,
no secret. We might not ever say it. That's not
our place because we don't want to try. We don't
want to cause friction or called the sension or division within.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
The locker room. But we know who can play. We
see your we see your hands every day, up day,
every day.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
And we see who coaches constantly have to make corrections for.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
We see ah, this mo fo in the game.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Hey, you do realize right, think about this right, take
take the take the names out of it, take the
center's name out of it, take the Gabriel name out
of it. On what team is any owner, any head coach,
or anyone in positions of power that did the drafting
and that mother, I'm sorry, in the war room. Are

(37:06):
they allowing a fifth round pick to outplay a third
round pick in what world? Well, I mean what world
has that ever happened? And have and have us looking
like a.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Fool rock party?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Beat out Trey Lance, mister irrelevant, beat out the third
pick in the draft. But you see the difference. We
made a mistake. We own up to the mistake. This
guy right here, mister irrelevant, the last pick in the draft.
He gives us the best opportunity to win. I understand
that we mortgaged. We gave a count of calf or

(37:45):
what we gave a count of calf arm of the leg.
We gave all that stuff, O Joe to get Trey Lance. Yeah,
but unfortunately they found out that Trey Lance couldn't play
dead in a horror film. So guess what they did.
They say, rock Party, we like what we see, Brock
pretty it is.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
It's okay, Oh Joe, we made a mistake.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
You're not gonna You're not gonna hit as greatest Ozsie
is at drafted. He drafted two players that's on the
the the one hundred anniversary team of the NFL. Jonathan
Ogden No. Three Ogden Lewis ed reed three guys.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Not a whole lot of people can say they drafted
three guys that are on a team like that.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
With that being said, he's missed some too. But the
one thing I know about Ozzy is that if he
a boy a. We drafted him to be what but
the guy came in as a free agent. The guy
came in as a later pick. He outplayed it. He said,
I'll be a fool not to play it. He said,
I ain't got that much pride.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Mm hm, oh, listen, it's a little. It's a little
different now, it's a little it's a little. The pride
is there, the ego is there because you're not gonna
allow it. Says, yes, any fifth round pick. Huh that
that last name carries a little little a little a
little bit of wait now, and it's a little different.
You know, we don't want to look like the fools
that we purposely let him slide all the way to

(39:12):
the fifth on purpose.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
You already food.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
You look like a food when you let Baker Mayfield
go and you tried, you tried.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
To change him. You didn't give him weapons. Look at
Baker when he got weapons. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I don't care your quarterback now unless unless you're like
them exemplary, like you, a Brady that can that can
elevate pick.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
But everybody don't have that ability.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
You gotta stop thinking, oh my quarterback, No, everybody can't
elevate players like the great great I'm talking about even
amongst the great their tears to greatness. Yes, and Brady
and some of those guys sit on that top tier
that you can't even get up.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
You can't even get up there.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
It's different, yes, different.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
But dealing Gabriel in one hundred and eighty four attempts,
Dylan Gabral has one pass that's travels twenty six yards.
His longest player of the season should do a roll
out down field with a fifty three yard completion in
the first quarter, one of the best offensive moments for
the Browns this season. The locker room, I think the
thing is, Oh Joe is that being who he is,
being the son of who he is.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
He's a very confident young man in his own abilities.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
And you got to be everybody that listen, everybody that
play a professional sport. Everybody that's great at something forgets sports.
If you're great at something, you got an ego. Now,
I kept telling people this, and people they want to
believe me. The greater you aren't something, the bigger the
ego is, the greater you.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I don't care whether you're doctor.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Neil la Trosh, one of the foremost orthopedics in the world.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
You have an ego. Thankfully, growing up in the household,
he understands. He's very confident in his own ability abilities.
Let's take a listen to what shau Door had to
say after the game.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
We got that that can, but there's no excuse. You
gotta go out there and perform like there's no choice,
is no question. Nobody cares if this is when we
could prep who cares? You know? So a lot of
people want to see me fall in. It ain't gonna happen.

(41:40):
You know, it ain't gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I like that, Oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
The remaining schedule, they get the forty nine Ers and
the Titans at home, they go on the road to
the Bears, they get the Bills at home, Steelers at home.
They finished the season on the road at the Bengals. Hey,
they gotta tell you, Hey, it ain't get easier.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Now, No, absolutely not. Forty nine is gonna be a
nice test. That's gonna be. That's gonna be a real
nice test. I mean, it all comes down to that
decision that's going to be made on Wednesday by Sefanski.
Whoever's taking those first team reps on Wednesday as you
prepare for that fort nine game. That's your starting your
starting quarterback for the week. And that's that's what that's
what it's gonna be. Bailey Zappi was promoted up to

(42:26):
quarterback number two and knowing them in the games that
they play, knowing them in the games that they play,
probably if Shador is not the starter, he'll probably go
back down to three. That's the type of game that
they will plays. All right, I'm telling you not watch
watch how they play games.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Ocho.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
There's a video of that merge of Geno Smith who
was getting booed by fans that he was leaving the field.
This is what Gino did after leaving the field, after
hearing the fans.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Booth damn, I can't see you know, only got one
them off?

Speaker 1 (43:09):
We did yes the second time. Can remember they went
back to Seattle. He did the exact same thing.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Ya ya, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
He's a repeat offender, Gino. You know how this worked.
When you play good, they applaud when you play bad.
Day boo, y'all been playing like dog Pool?

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Yeah yeah, hey, they need help to uncle over there, boy,
especially off hey on offense. They need some help. I
like I like Genty. Genty showed some flashes. He really
can't get loose like he want to. But the Raiders
need a dog. You hear me, You hear me the
rate the Raiders need a dog I'm talking about. He
need a dog, like a dog I can count on,

(43:46):
like a good one. Matter of fact, he and since
we talked about the Raiders, since we talked about Geno Smith,
right and they need a dog. And there's a good
dog that's gonna be available in the off season right too,
unc Yeah, right now he wears thing as him and
right now, you know, he'll look real good over there,
and he fit with being a Raider is all about
right now. He wearing number three over there in Dallas

(44:07):
right now. But I'm just saying I'm thinking about that.
You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Look here, I ain't fooling with them. I'm gonna go
somewhere else, y'all. You know how hard it would be
for Pick to see what he's getting right now and
to go deal with these jack legs.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Hey, Hey, I'm just I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
I mean, I don't want to go too far ahead.
I just want to throw that ta bit out there
until we get.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Oh yeah to that ass off.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Well we're talking about like it looking like he topped five.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Depth.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
No, well, right now, the best receiver in football is
in Jigba, and we're gonna talk about him a little later.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
He went for a buck sixty seven today. O Joe,
I've seen him.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
I seen him.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
This man got he does set the franchise record with
sick with and in thirteen eleven.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Games, can ash your yeah, Jason, right, yeah, I want
you to think about every receiver. I had a wide
at workshop, right, I had a white at workshop. Every
receiver that came to that workshop. You know what they're
doing this year.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
They're going off.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Man, stop playing with me.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Man, they're going off.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I don't need I don't need much. I don't need
much time. I don't need much time.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
All in, and that was just two days.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
I'm telling you all NFL receivers, I know y'all gonna
see this. Come on down here all let your boy
in July, all your young receivers, one year players, second
year players, rookies, throw year. I'm telling you come on
down here to Miami. Man, I'm gonna get you right, man,
I'm gonna get you right. I don't need much.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Before you go any further, we have breaking news. The
Raiders just relieve Chip Kelly of his duties. Kip Kelly
signed the contract to make him the highest paid offensive
coordinator in football this offseason, but he was just he
was dismissed after just eleven games.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Goddamn, hey, college, listen, somebody somebody gotta take the fall
with this. Somebody can take gotta take the fall. Somebody,
somebody gotta take it on. Obviously, it ain't gonna be Pete.
It ain't gonna be the quarterback. Okay, who we're gonna
blame Offensively? We can't get nothing going offensively? So who's
because of that gadget ass outh fits? What you call it,

(46:17):
that gadget ass out fit. But this, this is the
part I don't like. We're in the middle of the season, right,
you let off the coordinator? Go so what what?

Speaker 2 (46:25):
What?

Speaker 3 (46:25):
What plays we call it now? Or we have somebody
else calling the same exact offense because we can't learn
a brand new offense.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
But you know, sometimes, don't you know, maybe a different
set of eyes. I like that see things differently. I
like that down in distance area of the field, or actually.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Actually understanding the strengths of the goddamn supporting cast you
have and put right places. Why is why is Tucker
out there on the outside? Finds he out there on
the outside as if he's a true no disrespect as
he's the true number one.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
He'll slide it best. He your third, her third, He
a third. He a good third or fourth receiver. He
needs to be in the slot. He don't need to
be outside. First of all, Joe, he only liked well
I tall, he like five seven, five eight.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Hold on, I know he fast as hell, but he
out there lined up two yards outside another running comebacks. Man,
they finished sit on that all day. Yeah, they finished
sit on that all day. Like come on, man, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
It's uh.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Hey, they paid a lot of money. They made him
highest paid offensive coordinating football. All right, try to let
it go. I is that working. Go back to college,
you got to have you can have a great career
in college. Hey, and that worked, But you know, you
go here and try to change guys, guys that have
been doing stuff there in Tyler, cause remember the first
thing he did asked the Jens, and he wanted to

(47:51):
put asking Jen to put his hands on his thighs.
The man been standing up the whole while.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Hey, can I ask you a question? Yes, when you
when you see Jamiir Gibbs in the backfield, how's he stanning?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Damn? Just standing straight up, straight up and down?

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Because that had that that gives you that. It doesn't
comfort nothing.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
I'm comfortable. I want what you need.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Hell, I'll let you play some ugs if you're gonna
tell me you're gonna go out there rush for two fifteen.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
I don't care nothing about what you got on. I
really don't bad.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Please, thank you chat man, ooh chat, y'all doing us
good tonight. Oh Joe, we got fifty K in the
chat tonight. Fifty K in a regular season game in
a long time.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Chat. Thank you so much for the support. Really appreciate it,
oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
The Cowboys fall behind twenty one nothing, score twenty four
unanswered points, and they win on a game of Brandon
Aubrey's forty two yard field goal as time expired. Jalen
Hurst said after the game, we gotta find a way
to finish the game, and we gotta find some consistency
in what we do.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Definitely, the tail of two halves.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
In the end, we didn't play a complete game as
a team, and it got us today.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
We've got to own this one.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
It's let that light of fire in us as a
team and stay together and move forward.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
Ain J.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Brown been trying to tell y'all this Eagle fans. Ain't J.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Brown been trying to tell you what happens when the
defense can't bail us out you cannot run the football.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
You're gonna win games moving forward.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Oh, Jalen Hurst's arm, now he got some pressure that
he doesn't normally get.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Yeah, Lane Johnson is a big out the center.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Jurgis ay, ay, it's Diggi Zua was whipping ass inside today, Yes, sir,
But with the exception of one game, Saquan has not
run the ball this year. Had ten carries for twenty
two yards. Yeah, Jalen Hurst had seven for thirty three.

(49:58):
Bigsby had one for eight. So that's eighteen carries for
sixty three yards.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
They're gonna be this is gonna be like this all
season alone.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Now you had two, you had two, you had two
turnover yet, I mean the defense was balling.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
That's oh.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
I was sitting there and I started the tweet I
started to tweet this, but what they had the ball
second to seventeen. Huh, they just run the ball picked
up four yards? Good gay, how about trying to go
for it and try to get nine to ten? Now
we got something manageable. You run the ball into the
line of scrimmage, and now it's thirty seventeen. I think

(50:39):
AJ Brown or somebody picked up twelve yards. Now if
you have picked up twelve, if you picked up five
six yards before, and now come back and get the twelve,
now you got a first down. They give up on
too many players. Well, our defensive bail inside our defense.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
No, well you know what about not wanting to put
the ball in harm's way, Well mean, but not wanted
to put the ball in harway, but also being able
to trust your quarterback to make the right decisions with them?
They don't.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I don't care what they say. They don't.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
They don't because they're not a whole lot of people
that have a quarterback that's won a Super Bowl MVP
that on second and seventeen, they handing the ball off,
they gonna throw the ball, Let me try to get
half of it back. Oh, Jo, Now I got a
manageable third down. I get all their sayingste fast, get
excuse me, Sirianni's gonna say all this stuff, and I

(51:28):
get all of that, But they don't trust him like
they should trust him as a guy that started damn
near his entire career in the NFL. He came into
the backup, he got the starting job and he hasn't
relinquished it. He's gone to the playoffs, he's been to
two super Bowls, he's won one, and he's won a
league and he won a Super Bowl MVP. They don't
trust him like they should. Yeah, now this loss should

(51:54):
get their undivided attention. Now, AG ain't gonna say this,
but Ed Jesse, I told.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
You, but listen, I told you. But also look at
the game in that fourth quarter. Look at the game now.
I know, I know, I know the Cowboys were able
to come back, but they had about thirty seven eleven
goddamn fumbles in a row in back to back series.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yes, SA fumbling, and they punted.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
The defense did a great job, but there's only so
many times that you can keep putting your defense right
back on the field.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Field.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
They just got off the field. They give them all
a SA quality. He fumbled, the defense hold them. They
punted the ball defense right back on the field. In
the field, there's only Look, I don't care how much
you bill a levee. If it rains enough, it will burst. Yeah,
and that water will come over that levee.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Again. Another thing that happened Eagles. I just want to
know how many penalties that Oh yo, they had fourteen penalties?

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Yeah, they had a lot fourteen.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
No more than a lot, a lot of the parcel
of land they had fourteen. I mean Dallas had four
hundred and seventy three yards of our fifth Uh.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
That was that was. Look, this is when dak is
at his absolute besteh.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Because now he can throw caution to the wind because
guess what, oh Joe, if you lose on well, but
because you know I had when I worked with Dan
Dandy and I Damn Marino and we worked work together
for a decade for decade, and he said he's like, hey,
if I threw three interceptions, Hell, what's the difference between

(53:40):
three and four, what's the different between four and five.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
I'm gonna keep letting it rip, let it go. I mean,
they put it. They should have put this thing where
in the first twenty one nothing.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Listen, uncle, if you're playing mad, you gotta pass the sticks.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
The game is over.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
At twenty one nothing. I thought the game was over obviously.
I had both games going. I'm watching the Raiders. I'm
watching the Raiders in the Browns. I'm watching the Eagles
and the Cowboys. Boom, both TV set up right there.
So I'm thinking, Okay, damn, but the Cowboys out of
twenty one zip in the NFL. If you continue to
keep your foot on the gas, it's no way as
good as their defense is, it's no way the Cowboys

(54:19):
should be able to come back. But long, behold, boy,
they got a young dude out there. They got a
young dude out there, man in Dallas that got a
star on his helmet when he got drafted. He was
standing just like this.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Man.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Listen, when we listen, when we talk about top five again,
we talk about top five receivers and understanding potential and
what they've been able to do, and how there was
a certain team that might have been holding you back
based on what we see in this year. Man stop
man stopped playing.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
First of all, it shouldn't even been twenty one nothing.
O Yo, what CD makes you make her few moving forward?
See he dropping an ass load of passes. O Joe,
you watched it and I've watched it. He dropped like
four or five. Hold on, how many targets?

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Hold on?

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Let me go back, because ojo, he dropped Ojo. He
dropped the flat out touchdown. He dropped it in the
z on hit the best. That would the end of
the game. I'm glad they won the game because that
might have been on CD if.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
They had eleven targets. He called four of them.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Huh, eleven targets he called four. He threw four or
five of them back at da. I mean he was
a he turned into a retriever. You know, a retrieveral
Oo you you hunting quel a pheasant?

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Don't get it, bore.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
He'll pick it up, pick it and bring it back
to you. That's what he was doing. He's picking the
ball up handed to the official. Noah, no, no, no, bro.
I need you to be a receiver. We pay you
thirty four million dollars. And right now, well you know
you see everybody said, we ain't gotta say nothing. Y'all
see it with your own eyes, y'all see picking out playing.
We ain't got to say nothing. Hey, they see it.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Yeah, he being lazy with his hands and eyes. Huh,
that's all it is, being lazy with your being lazy
with your hands and eyes.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
You got to drop, so Joe, he leave, he leading
the league in drops CD CD drops.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Oh man a.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
Damn huh.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
You sure one thousand?

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Damn gotta get that thing right?

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Helly, I mean the last couple of games. Hell I
thought that was Edward s Cisser hands out there. Hey, hey, hey,
we I mean, look, y'all see it. Chat, I mean,
oh Joe, And now we're making a lot of a situation.
But y'all see them drops, and I know cowboy fans,
y'all see it like damn CD talk on CD. You
gotta cach. I'm talking about the ball beating him up.

(56:53):
O Joe, he doesn'et got what happens?

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Oh Joe. You know when you drop a couple you
got with Damn? Do I got my heads right?

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Like it is?

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Do I catch it like this? Now you start trying
to body catch everything and.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Get in your Head's gone you get you get in
your head. Listen, listen, I've been there, Hey, listen, I've
been there. So I kind of what he's going through. Now,
it's just be one game. It don't be multiple, it
don't be back to back to back. And a player
of his caliber, of his caliber, oh absolutely not. The
game was supposed to be over. On that catch where
it went through it and hit his belly and went

(57:29):
through and it looked at and he looked at that
and telling Dak throw it out there a little bit,
most like I can run to it.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Come on, come on now, over the middle.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
He dropped one over the middle, and damn, I mean,
and he like, I'm like, bro, I'm glad you got
some flexibility because when he go down, he all on
his neck, he all breaks that.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
I'm like, what damn?

Speaker 3 (57:49):
He he you know, you know, listen in baseball, some
of the greatest, some of the greatest sluggers, they go
on the slumps. I'm not making no excuses for him,
but somebody like that that with that double eight. He
wear a double eight for a reason. Exactly, you wear
that double eight for a reason. So boom, I had
a bad game. Next week, I don't even know who
the Cowboys got. I don't even know what the Cowboys got,

(58:09):
but I know next week a four man get that
boy back in the rhythm, man to get his confidence back. Man,
put that thing back on him.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
I'll let it work on his confidence.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
I'm gonna go to number three because I know number
three gonna put it in his back pocket for me.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I know what three gonna. I know what three gonna do.

Speaker 6 (58:26):
Did you see I.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Catch that three? May hold on which one? The one
he made over two? He caught one and then twenty
one tried to wipe it.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
But here's the problem the Eagles got because wherever a
at the ball gonna follow him.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Jackson, whoever he got, and the ball following him.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Now, I'm trying to figure out, o yo, adored Jackson
sets up inside, He ass inside leverage. Yeah, hiding the
hell you let are you let pickures cross your damn
phase on the slant on the on the end route.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Oh okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
It was thin. It was like third and it was
like third and twelve.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
He's and the one he had to reach out and
go have fun.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
You got inside, o yo. They put you inside for
a reason. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
If he beats you on the gold ball, you're like, coach,
I mean, what you want me to do? You got
me lined up inside.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
That's on him.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
If I line you, Ojo, if I line you up inside,
you can't let him cross your face, O Jo. I
told what did I tell you? What I've been telling him?
Running back? I say, if a linebacker blips and you
catch him, Yeah, he gonna sit you in the lap
of the quarterback and he gonna sack your quarterback.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
And what na Kobe d do di Javonte? Will you loyo?

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Sat him down back there?

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Oh? Jo, you better close that distance.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
You gotta realize he's coming from distance, so he has
ahead of steam.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
You sitting there catching him. You better closed that distance.
You got to meet him.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
He got to you got to meet him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Hey, the Eagles, I'll tell you what a J. Brown
got the undivided attention.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Yeah, Hey, he had he had a He had a
hell of a game. And they too are they were
he They were feeding that boy early too, but not enough.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
He should have had fit. He should have had one
of them chase games. He should have had twenty three targets.
Davante Davonte cooking both of them, both of the head
chef and sailor chef.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
It's not gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
What it was. Last year, you're throwing on the wide
open guys because Saquon and they dropping that eighth guy
down to stop Saquan.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
That offensive line is not as dominant now. Lane Johnson
is out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
He's probably done for the year because it's reported that
he has a Liz Frank so he's he's probably if
he got Liz Frank, he's probably done.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Yes, you're gonna have to educate me. What the hell
is the Liz Frank.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
It's a ball, it's dancers normally get it. It's a
small brus or what is it? Like the meta Tarzl
like in your in your foot?

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
So this is your foot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
It's like rights gonna play because he got the foot already.
It's his right foot. So you're gonna kick, How you
gonna catch? How you gonna say it? Can't he done?
If if what they're saying is true that he has
a Liz Frank injury, right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
I might be able to do something, do something for
him for that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Well, you might can do something after you have surgery,
but you ain't gonna be a do nothing for it
right now. With that being said, oh, your look, I
think the thing is the Eagles. You just gotta realize
and I and I said, we've been I've been saying this.
If you think you're gonna win the super Bowl how
you won it last year, you fool of yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Now you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
You gotta evolve the way you want it last year
and not gonna be able to do it the same
way the next year. And obviously, you know what, you
know how difficult it is to repeat. Being able to
repeat is very difficult in itself. Therefore, teams have film
on you. Actually, every team you do play you and
get their best shot. Absolutely, So the way you won
games last year, you're gonna have to do things differently.

(01:02:08):
If you can't run the ball, you gotta throw it,
even if it's not the makeup of your team, even
that's not what you guys do. Things are going to
have to change, whether it be the play calling, whether
it be Jayleen Hurts, Jenen Hurt taking the freedom, maybe
taking the freedom and taking the rings out of the
hands of brother Patula if he calls something else, and
Jalalen Hurts being an MVP, being a super Bowl winning quarterback.

(01:02:30):
You know what, you know what I see something that
you can't see from the sideline, or I see something
that you can't see from the booth because I'm an
actually feel side, I'm actually out here being able to
change the play. Hey, Davante, if you get one on one,
keep your eyes on me. AJ Brown, if you get
one on one, keep your eyes on me. I'm changing it,
changing through whatever they do best.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
He mad the man.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Every time you see Aj and somebody bumping around, that
goddamn safety playing around and he anywhere in the middle
of the field, I'm checking it every time, every time
because every time you put it up to him, a
fifty to fifty ball with Aj Brown, the turns in
ninety ten, man stopped playing man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
I mean that was sensational. Twenty three or thirty six,
three fifty four two touchdowns. That was a hell of
an interception. That that blanket ship, the one he picked
on CD.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Hold on you. You ain't see the veteran move.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
You ain't see that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
You ain't see the tug, the slight tug of.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
The jersey the play and then you launched yourself forty hey,
and it was just subtle though it wasn't enough to shot.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Yes man, I'm talking about straight veteran moved.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
That was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
That was beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
It was all.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
But look, the one thing we know about Dak Dak
don't lose division games at home. He had lost a
bunch of them. He might have lost one or two,
but you don't lose a bunch at home. And like
I said, and when he can throw caution to the wind,
he's like, hey, we're down twenty one nothing, So what
if we lose thirty five ten? Nah, Hey, let's go,

(01:03:59):
and they would. They stayed attacked just enough that we
could stick a run in here here and there with
Javonte Williams. And so now we got a second, and three,
we got a second and four. I could do that
just enough. But the Cowboy a here. The Cowboys schedule.
Got the Chiefs on Thanksgiving, Then they got the uh uh.

(01:04:21):
Then they play the following Thursday, they get the Lions.
Then they get the Vikings at home, which is a
Sunday night game. Then they get the Chargers at home, goddamn.
And then they got the Commanders on Christmas, which is
in Washington. And then they got the Giants.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Hey, they got a night. They got a nice little schedule.
They got a nice little schedule. They got Nick.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Foles Super Bowl MVP winning quarterback Nick Foles, who quarterback
the Eagles to their first Super Bowl, critique the Eagle
simplistic route treet and play calling when the route tree
is simplistic. DVS know that, Kevin Petula, it's probably a
great dude, but there's an art to play calling.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Yeah, everybody, I said, I said that last week. I
said it last week.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
I said it. But guess what if everybody saying it
from the outside. Why can't Sirianna that's inside? Why can't
he see it? Why can't Petula see it?

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
And I said it last week? You know it's funny,
and I understand the frustrations that AJ Brown is having.
But if I can watch an Eagles game right and
just and this is I'm just a J. Brown specifically,
if I can tell you exactly where he lines up,
and I could take the route. If I was blindfolded

(01:05:46):
and you told me exactly what A J. Brown was
lined up, I can give you the two route combinations
he gonna run. If it's two by two, if it's
three by one, he's on the single side by hisself.
He got a slam coming. Now, I mean, I mean,
I give it to you, and I get to you
a whole game. I bet I won't be wrong, not once. Yeah,
I won't be wrong that once. It's too it's too easy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
They really don't let him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
They don't let him run, but a handful of damn
routes they'll let him run. They'll let him run the slant,
They'll let him run the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Shallow, the curve, let him run the over curl. They'll
let him run the deep ball.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
If he's on the left hand side, then occasionally they'll
let him run to come back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Yeah, hold on, hold on that little what we call it,
we call it the twelve yard dig, not sixteen eighteen yards?

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you call that?
Pickings called the one that picks called on Jackson?

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Yeah, what do y'all what do y'all call that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Though you call it? We call it dig?

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Yeah, well, I mean our dig is sixteen and eighteen.
I forgot what you call up the short the shorter version.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
No, no, no you can.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
I mean the thing of all the pins, because the
thing is with us. We if we you had the
route was called. So let's just say, for the sake
of argument, you needed fourteen yards if the route say
ten to twelve go to twin the twelve. You couldn't
go deeper because they would mess up the time of
of the quarterback. But you run that you or you

(01:07:09):
call it, we call it. We call it over sometimes,
like I would run what we call a far across.
Ten pushed the twenty two. That's that's a far cross
because I'm trying to catch the ball on the far side,
right over route.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
What you thinking?

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
You're probably think of an over route. Whereas ten roll
the twelve breaking the cross.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
We as a tight end.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
It was a basic cross for us, and I just
they not gonna win the Super Bowl how they won
it last year. You gotta get a deeper a offense
defense been carried it. Now when y'all gonna care when
you're gonna pull y'all weight? Oh yo, the Eagles got

(01:07:55):
Oh this was a the Cowboys play the Chiefs on Thanksgiving?

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Who the Eagles got coming up? That's what That's what
I meant.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
We'll get that in just a second.