Nightcap - Hour 1: Teddy Bridgewater SUSPENDED for helping kids + Garrett Wilson GETS PAID!

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Garrett Wilson signing a huge extension with the New York Jets, Teddy Bridgewater gets suspended for impermissible benefits, and much more!

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03:55 Teddy Bridgewater Suspended
20:56 Garrett Wilson
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right into it. Teddy Bridgewater has been suspended as the
head football coach at his alma matera Miami Northwestern High School,
for reportedly giving el impermissible benefits to its players. The

(01:31):
suspensions comes less than a week after Bridgewater detail in
a Facebook post in which he was asking for the
nushis for the program that which he personally covered fourteen
thousand for training camp, ninety five hundred for teen pride sets,
twenty two hundred a week for pregame meals, thirteen hundred
week for recovery, seven hundred dollars a week for ubers,

(01:53):
and more. He's being penalized for that. So, Teddy a volunteer,
not even in school employee, it's being suspended for helping
kids and doing good in the community. Teddy alleged the
administrators at Northwestern want me gone. Apparently, Oh Joe, this
is down your neck of the wards. You're very familiar
with all things, uh South Florida what's going on.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's unfortunate from from my understanding. Obviously, Miami Northwestern, uh,
very good, very good program, very good program. Obviously, they
just want to stay. You know, last year Teddy did
a hell of a job coming in and changing that
program around in less than a year. I think the
previous season, I think they hadn't really won that many games. Obviously,

(02:38):
inner City School and the fact that out of his
own money, out of his own pockets, being able to
feed some of those kids. Obviously, this is I hate.
I hate seeing a poverty stricken area. I hate saying it,
I hate using that type of word. But these are
kids that needed rides transportation to and from practice. Obviously

(02:59):
ted taking to put himself to feed the kids as well,
because preparing them for the next level, because this is
the type of treatment you're gonna get at the next level,
you know, giving them that type of exposure, that type
of atmosphere, and what it's like to be at the
next level. Some of the things he was doing to
help the kids is unfortunate. I've heard both sides. I think,

(03:22):
if I'm not mistaken from what I've heard. Obviously, being
down here in Miami, Teddy Bridgewater in that athletic director
at Miami Northwestern. They don't see eye to eye. They're
not on the same page that where they should be.
What Teddy has brought, you know, to that to that school,
and what it's done for that school, and some of
the things he has been doing, there should be no
reason why they don't see eye to eye based on
what Teddy's trying to do for these kids and giving

(03:44):
back in every way he.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Can out of his pocket.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think also on the flip side of things, I
think it can also be a liability for the school
in a sense if anything is to happen to these kids,
you know, God forsaken that that that it wouldn't I
think the school has to protect themselves as well. So
I kind of see both sides of it. But what
Teddy's doing, Man, listen, I salute you. It's really unfortunately.

(04:08):
If it was the private school, this is something that
they do, this is something that is normal, it's a
norm for them, but the public school is frowned upon,
and the fact that he was suspended for it is ridiculous.
On it's ridiculous because he's been a huge help for
those kids, huge help for that program and what he's

(04:30):
been able to do.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Is it because he personally took the money out of
his own pocket, or if they're like you said, if
it was a big enough school and they could raise
the money and this happened with because it seems like
I think they're getting into it. Oho is that you're like,
you're paying these players, You're giving them things that other
kids don't get.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
If they went to another school.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
They had nothing to do with nothing. I think the problem,
I think the problem is on. I think the problem
is I think everything would have been good if Teddy
had the posted what he had done. I think nobody,
nobody would have known, you know, he wanted he posted
what he had done for the kids in them in
the Mountain, which he had spent to that point, and

(05:17):
then asked for donations, which he probably would have done.
I think it would have been safe if he asked
for the donations instead.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
For everybody, will you get done?

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Listen one thing about MIMA Northwestern alumni or them bulls
gonna band together? Ye and me them bull them them
bulls gonna band together and raise whatever money needs to
be raised for those kids to make sure that they
have and they don't go without.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, I mean I see some of the you know,
I see some of these schools in Texas and California
and Georgia where they a building these fifteen twenty thirty
forty fifty million dollar facilities for high school program. Obviously,
in the South, football is king. Obviously in the West
California football is king as well. But in the South Georgia, Florida,
South Carolina, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Texas football is.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Clant king, and they will close Friday nights.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
They close everything down early because they want to make
sure the fans get out there and cheer on their
local team. With that being said, I'm like I said
ninety five, I don't know what a team pride set is.
If somebody gonna need to explain to me what's a
team pride set. The pregame meals twenty two hundred dollars
a week for pregame meal.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
I guess, oh yo, that's not a lot.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
If you're feeding a hundred kids, If you're feeding one
hundred kids, oh yo, that's not a lot of money.
That's basically twenty dollars a plate. And you're talking about
a high school kid. Hell, I know, I remember when
I was of high school, I eat like three both
plates me. You know they would obviously they wouldn't let
you eat that much. They didn't want you to be
out there rolling over can But you know, hey, Ojo,

(06:56):
you get your what's spaghetti? You got spaghetti? Or we
got like Stayking baked potatoes or something like that. I
can't once now that ain't no, that ain't no weekly.
We ain't getting no weekly. Pregame it.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
But it's different.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
But when you think about it, you think of the
way he set the tone for that program, the way
he set the tone.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
For the players.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
They get them acclimated to a certain lifestyle in which
it would be like once you reach that next level,
this is what it's like. These are the ways you're
supposed to be treated. These are life lessons long far
beyond football. If you think about it, what he's teaching
these young men and what did he and how did

(07:37):
those young men repay him by winning the state championship,
winning a state champion.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
That's why everything shouldn't be posted. You see.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
They used his post against it, just like hey, you know,
we're on a little hard times right now. We appreciate
or appreciate any donations, uh that we can get to
make sure these kids have the you know, like recover.
Oh you know, we ain't getting no coup. We ain't
know no cold tub. Was hey, I ain't know nothing
about no damn cold tub till I got to the NFL.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Ain't cold tub.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
And plus you young, you ain't even got born, You
got gristle, ain't nothing wrong with you.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Get you get out of the dirt on it, get
out there.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Now these kids getting weakly recovery, they're getting cold tubbs and.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
All this stuff, the whole nine yards and whole.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
And I guess you know it's because Miami is so
spread out on you like, everybody's not like close facility.
You know, ain't like close proximity. So in order to
get the kids to and from practice.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Glad you just said that too. I glad you just
said that. Now right across the street from Miami Northwestern
was it, uh was the porking Bean projects.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
The porking Bean projects.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Is now going uncle.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Everything has been gentrile, is God.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
But listen, you know what, boy, it's a it's a
goddamn duncan donuts across the street from where the Scott
I mean Scott Project were the porker beans, wood Duncan.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Donuts, okay in the hood.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Come on, man, So those kids have to travel from
somewhere else. Now they've been, they've been, they've been uprooted.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
They have no choice. So ain't no telling them where
they had to come from.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
And Teddy made sure they was able to get from
point A to point B. Be on time for practice,
be on time for school. There's so much that he's
done that we don't know the game, be on time
for games.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I mean, and listen. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
But I also see the other side with the school
having to protect themselves as well. In case anything happened
to those kids. The first thing parents gonna do is
they gonna shoe on.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
They gonna sue.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
They're gonna sue the school, and the school is live.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Like when you when you played high school football, did
your coach take the drop the guys off? I mean,
because we we practiced, we was already at school, so
it wasn't like we went home and then came back
to practice. It was already at school. So you just
had practice right after school. So we ended school at
three thirty. At three o'clock, we have practice for me.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
For me, it was a little different.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
You have to understand my grandmother, Miss Bessie May Flowers.
Bessie May Flowers taught right at Nautilus Middle School was
just right around the corner off of forty first Street
on the Beach. I was already at Beach High right,
So I ain't really reading. I ain't need no ride
to go nowhere because I was already. I was already there. Yeah,
I was over there. So the last time for me
getting rides of school, I'll never forget when I played

(10:23):
for Miama Lake's Optimists nineteen eighty eight for coach Bud
rest Is Soul Coach Bud Coach Smithy used to pick
me up all the way from Liberty City on forty
fourth Street, eleventh Avenue, take me all the way out
to Miama Lake's Optimist which is way on sixty seventh Avenue,
and take me to practice and drop me home every
day every day.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, if you wanted the best player to play, you had.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
My Grandy had already told him, well you wanted to play,
you gotta take you got a brain, that boy, that simple,
Because I mean what how was I once I got
once I got home to rot four box threety five,
ain't nobody bringing me back to town. So if you
wanted him, you got to come pick him up and

(11:09):
you got to drink him or you got to drop
him off.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
And so you know what, I'm going to this This
lets me know, this is another example on how far
we have to go on how far we have to go,
Teddy listen, making some of the less fortunate kids out
of Liberty City that have been uprooted based on wherever
they're living right now, allowing them to play a sport

(11:32):
now that they love, and he wants them to excel
without being held back by any family financial issues.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
So I'm gonna cover that.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
I'm gonna make sure you ain't got no problem getting
to school, getting the practice I'm getting. I'm giving you gear,
I'm getting you outfits, you know, so we all look
like a team when we go places.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I mean, it's it's.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Ridiculous, man, it's ridiculous. It's unfortunate. I wonder how long
the suspension is.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
It might be for the year.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Pride sets or workout gear and travel suits and shoes.
So basically oho, so we don't look like an all
tournament team. We got some guys in shirtain ties. We
got some guys in sweatsuits, some guys in jeans, some
guys wearing the cleats, some guys wear you know, sneakers.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
So just so we all look uniformity.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Okay, you know what, guys, Hey, we're gonna say we're
gonna have sweatsuits. So we all gonna wear Miami Northwestern sweatsuits,
or we all gonna wear you know, kakis and a
blue blazer and a white collar shirt. Whatever the case
may be. So now better understand it. This is what
Teddy posted this afternoon. Ohoe, damn, people don't cause all
this confusion. Got a phone call last night and it's

(12:40):
no real investigation going on. I told you I have
to be an employee to be investigated. Now the paperwork
thing still stands, but there's no investigation. We self reported
Burne and his administration homeboys want me gone, apparently, and
tried to hire one of my dogs, like bro wasn't
gonna laced me up. The suspicion came from Miami Northwestern,

(13:04):
and it's impossible to suspend someone who doesn't work for you.
So if I'm suspended from Miami North Miami Northwestern. Am
I free to go to another school of my choice,
But I'm not going anywhere, And if it comes down
to it, I'll volunteer from the bleachers like I used
to in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen when there was no
one had a problem. This is my last post about this.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I'm not sure how true that Facebook post is, but
again where I stated earlier, I've heard the remlins from
other coaches at Noyland, at Carol City, at some of
the other inner city schools as Central at Jackson. That
the ad I'm not sure who it is. I forgot
his name. He's been there for a very long time.
He's been there for a very long time. Even though
the ad right now at Miami Northwestern he's a Carol

(13:51):
City chief, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
But they don't get along.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
I'm not sure why they don't, based on what Teddy
has done for that program and what he's doing down
It's it's unfortunate, man, And sometimes we get in our
own way. We getting our own way because Teddy got
a great thing going on there. He got a great
thing going on there.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, yeah, And it's not like you at Saint Thomas Aquinas,
or you at Heritage or you at America, you at IMG,
you have healing, you have you that don't program about Joe.
I'm sure Teddy wouldn't have the mere of fact that
Teddy had the means to dig.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
In his pocket.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I get you, like you said, O, Joe, I really
do see both sides, because you're you're going down a
slippery slope if coaches can come out of their pocket
and do all of these things for the kids, even
though the kids deserve these I get, I don't. I
totally understand what the administration is saying.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Man, man, this is a this.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Is an unprecedented game, and this is a very very
slippery slope, Teddy that we're trick that we're treading on
because the president here because what should say, another NFL
or somebody a prominence becomes a coach and and they
fund everything and now so and I get what they're saying,

(15:05):
But Teddy is just trying to give these kids an opportunity.
He knows everybody's not going to get a scholarship, but
he's trying to give those guys that maybe want a
scholarship or have the potential or the ability to get
one that they have the best resources.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
And the best means to be the absolute best. What
in the hell is wrong?

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Now?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I think I got a shortage hold on?

Speaker 1 (15:52):
See chat, he got that big ol' house, got all
that white furniture and piano and all that stuff, and
look at him.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Now, ain't nobody heard the word you saying?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Okay, it's a little shortag it's a little shortage in
the wire, and it's causing everything just to go out
real quick.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, I mean you pay all that money for the house.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Look at that dogor no, no, no, no, that's just
because I got I got, I got so many things
plug up the one one little. I forgot to call
this a little USB thing. But hey, hey man, it's
oh man, that's that's that's sad.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
That's sad.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
That's that I feel bad for the kids, feel for kids,
because now who's gonna be able to do it? You?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Sup?

Speaker 3 (16:28):
You spend you suspend Teddy for I'm not sure how long.
You have a great team, You have a great program
with some elite athletes over that Miami Northwestern. Now what
happens the meals disappear, the outfits to looking like it's
a business trip when it's time to go play a game.
Mm hmmm, the therapy, the cold tub, the hot tub,

(16:51):
the I mean, like everything is out the window now
mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I agree, I agree, and I understand. I understand.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
What Teddy was trying to do, but I also understand
the school and the admin trying to protect themselves. Hopefully
they come to some sort of some sort of resolution,
because the only loser here are the kids. You know,
there are no there are no there are no winners.
The admin doesn't win, Teddy doesn't bread win.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
The kids lose, but you know, you know how the
admin looks at it. They look at it as a
win for them, even though the kids are gonna have
to suffer because they're not liable for anything. We're not liable. Okay, well,
they can't do this no more. So we don't have
to worry about anything happening to the kids. And it's
falling back on us.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Right and they're not in a position if if if,
if I'm listening to you what you said. This is
aner city school and they don't have the resources, oh Joe,
to do the stuff that Teddy was able to do
coming out of their pocket. I don't know if they
they can't sell enough, but catfish and spaghetti plates. I mean,
you know, we used to have ra sell stuff and raffles.
We used to sell on candles and all kinds of
stuff to try to raise money to get uniform, to

(18:04):
get this and that.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
And it's so funny and that we talked about Miami
north Western.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
A quick story.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Talk about my grandma. Bessie made flowers. Obviously, she taught
in the Dade County public school system forty one years,
forty one forty two years, right, And I was the
ball boy from from when I was in from I
think maybe fifth grade, fifth grade, all the way Intick
got the high school I was. I was a ball
boy at Miami Northwestern. I was a little shorty. I'll

(18:30):
never forget. The head coach at the time was Coach Goldsmith.
The receiver coach at the time was Coach Hardwick. And
I remember I remember playing names and all man and
growing up all I could think about was blue and
gold and when it's my time to go to high school, well,
I'm finn be a bull.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
That's all that. That's all I remember.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I swear for God. One of the funniest conversations. You
know how Prime told you talk to my grandma. She
had some crazy stories. Yeah, man, I'm graduated eighth grade.
It's time me to go to high school. Well, Coach
Goldsmith and Coach Hallwick, they come to my grandma house.
They drive on down, they sit on down, and I'm hype.
I gotta smile on my face. I'm fin to go

(19:09):
to the West. I'm you know, I'm gonna be balling
with all my homeboys in.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
The hood, right mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Coach Goldsmith came in there. My grandma came out. She
went and put a wig on, and she sat down, said,
y'all want some coffee?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Like coffee? What man?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Coach Coach Hallwick, he said, he said his piece. Coach
Goldsmith said his piece about wanting me to come be
the West. He's been the ball with us for a
very long time. He's a part of the family. And
we want to know miss ms Bessie's Miss Flowers, what
you think about him coming on down here, you know,
to the West. And man, she hit that long.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
That's gonna be a good idea. I need to be
able to keep an eye on him.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
You know, he's a little wild.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
He's a little he's a little bad and and I
need to be able to get to him fast. So
I wanted to be over there on the beach where
I get that phone call. I can get to him
right away and Coach Goldes with the hard way. They know,
Miss Flowers, we got him. We're gonna make sure he's good.
He ain't gonna have no problem, He's gonna have no issues.
Uh you see, I went to beach Oi right. I

(20:19):
would never I would never forget that conversation. Man, I
never get those the bus rides. Man, I still remember
the players. Remember you remember Magic Ben Man, Magic Ben,
the magic Ben Teleylockett freight over the quarterback back then.
I remember all them boys. Man, there was some good days,
hunk Man. So so technically I was a bull. I

(20:42):
was a bull at one point that.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
You was supposed to be anyway. So hopefully they get
this and can get back out there, because you know,
let's do what's in the best of the kids.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
And uh yes.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Gary Wilson signs of four year extension worth a one
hundred and thirty million dollars, which makes him one of
the highest paid wide receivers in the NFL the number
ten overall pick in the twenty twenty two NFL draft.
Wilson is entering his fourth season in the NFL. He's
had at least one thousand yards every year and posted
a career high one hundred and one catches and seven

(21:17):
touchdowns last year.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Hey, I love it. I like the deal. I like
the deal.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh Jo, they get one of the better players, they
get him locked up, they drafted him.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
He's homegrown.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
You know what he is, you, Hey, you watch this
guy for the last three years, come in and out
of your building. You watch him work, show up every
Sunday and Thursday or whenever the guys play, So you
know what you have.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
There is no speculation.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well, I wonder what we're gonna get when we get
Garrett Wilson and our building. Well, you've had it in
your building for the better part of three years, so
you know exactly who and what this young man is.
I like this deal. I like ain't no haggling. Well,
I want to be the highest paid, look bro.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Piment of Oh yeah, I could work, I could work.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah one I can't refuse. Yeah, absolutely absolute. Because the
funny thing he gonna hit him cross the head again.
He's gonna he gonna hit him cross the head again.
And we know what Garret Wilson can be with consistent
quarterback plays, coul We saw him do it as rookie year.
I understand how specially is. I understand what he can do,
and I'm glad he had justin fields. I just need

(22:21):
for the offer of the coordinator to continue to put.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
His college his college college quarterback. They have chemistry. We
just need him to put.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
I need them to continue to put Garret Wilson in
position to continue to make plays and make justin field
job easier. But it's it's gonna be easy because you
got that young You got that young bell cow in
the backfield that can hit his head off the gold
post from anywhere on the field. So I think things
are gonna be a little easy for him. I'm glad
he got his money. But what it does do not
to go off topic, but it raises the price tag

(22:50):
for my young bull down there over there with the
commanders who they need to go hit it.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Scary.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Terry deserve to get paid now. He's done everything. He's
been a battod citizen. He wears that seat on his
chest for a reason, there's no need every time. Every
time UK, unless you're a quarterback, you gotta fight tooth
and nail for your money every time, no matter how
you carry yourself, you do everything the right way, you're
a perfect teammate, you say all the right things. Yeah,

(23:18):
but when it comes time for that money, it's time
to pay your players. They do with any and everybody,
no matter how you conduct yourself.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
And my thing is, like I said, Ojo, where you know,
our privy to the conversation behind the scene, what is
he asking? Is he asking for Chase and Jefferson's money
or does he want to, you know, be one of
the HIGs paid somewhere in that twenty eight to thirty
two thirty three million, though.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
He belongs in the conversation.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
I'm not saying justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase money. But
we ain't dropping too far below that.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Now, that's not what we're I think the thing is, Okay,
we look at we look at gart Garrett Wilson.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Basically thirty what thirty what is that? Thirty two, thirty
three thirty.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
For one of the three and then you got one ten,
so you got about thirty two million a year.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
So that's what I said. So I put it.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
I put it like that record a little bit more
than that because you look at the body at work.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Just look at the body.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
At work in what McLaurin has done. I think he
deserves a little bit more than that. Now, this is
no disrespect what Garrett Wilson has done in this three years.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
But McLaurin and what he's.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Meant for that team, what he's meant for that city,
what he's meant for that organization, what he's meant for
that team as a captain and doing all the right
things even when things were bad.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Now, so you're looking at it about thirty two five
a year. What did DK get? DK got something around
that that seems to be a lesser Chase, a lesser Jefferson.
That seems to be uh. He's the fifth highest paid
by annual value, so that seems to be a CD.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
CD is a tick below.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I think a Jella got thirty five year CD slotted
up under that. He got thirty four year Chase pull vaulted.
He did a monseau to Blantess. He pulled vault over everybody.
It broke the world record with over forty basically over
forty million a year. So now I guess everybody else
that comes along you're gonna be slotted somewhere between thirty

(25:15):
and thirty.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Press fair, Are you okay with that?

Speaker 3 (25:18):
He got to be He got to be.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
I'm sure someone like mclauren, knowing him and understanding him
the way you carry himself, the way he conducts himself,
just in journal the type of person is. He ain't
trying to take all the goddamn bank. He's not trying
to take all the goddamn bag. You want to get
as much as you can of value, But don't.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Let him disrespect you with the numbers. Don't let him
disrespect you with the numbers.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I think sometimes don't your people get carried away. They
start basing their value on what somebody else got. Maybe
Washington doesn't view you like Cincinnati abuse Chase, or like
Minnesota views Jetta, and so okay, Oh, I'm just saying,
so I can't I can't own you, I can't work
I can't work it.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Let's just say, for the sake of argument.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I can't work at Dollar General and then get mad
say well, they pay the people over there Walmart more
when I work over there, I work right here now
unless they're gonna make a trade and put you in
a situation. So right now, he's behind Chase, Jella, CD,
and DK. Like I said, okay, that's the fifth highest paid.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
So who's the next receiver, Pookah.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I think Pookah's gonna probably be due to be somewhere
slotted in that he's gonna be looking at, you know,
thirty two to thirty three, thirty four million, Cause I
think when you talk about who's the best receiver, I
think for the most part, people say either Jeila or Chase.
Those are normally the first two names that roll off
everybody's lips. So Joe and look were not trying to

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slot nobody. But I'm just saying when you ask people,
you ask DB's they say Jetta, Yeah, they say Chase,
so forth and so on, And that's not trying to
diminish anybody else because obviously CD's done what he's done.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
DK's had unbeliev season.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
We know what Tyreek is and when Tyreek healthy and
they got decent quarterback plays, so we know what Tyreek is.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
But at the end of the day, give me a
good number give me a good number.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
I can feel that, I can feel, I can feel
comfortable with I can I don't feel disrespected. And because
I look at the end of the at the end
of the day, O Joe, I like a negotiation like this.
Everybody needs to feel like they've been had because let
me tell you what happens a lot of time in
negotiation and the bill up resentment. I would wrap Oho

(27:32):
and I I and this is why I hows always
done business.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I would rather.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I would rather take a few dollars less because when
you look at it, Oho, you tell me, Ojo, what
can't you do with thirty three million that you got
to have thirty four? Because I guarantee you if you
if you blow thirty four, you if you blow thirty three,
you blow for thirty four.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I would rather you.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Okay, hey here, Shannon, this is what we're going to
give you. Then you regrudgingly give me more, and then
it ru And we've seen that, o Yo. We've seen
teams that begrudgingly give a player more and at the
first chance they get, they upset the offset player.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yep, that's how it works. And it's almost getting to
that point. I'm not sure how negotiations are going going
right now when it comes to the commanders and and
Brother McLaurin. But I do know is when it was
time for chasing T. When it's time for chasing T,
we talk about easily top Duo and Jamar Chase the

(28:35):
best right now in the game. Obviously that's a conversation
that could be had depending on your preference and who
you like.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, given Chase a hard time. So they given Chase
a hard time. Jenna was the only one that didn't
have a hard time. Given Chase a hard time.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
What you think they're doing down there in DC?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
For sure? Man?

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Please, Jenna was mindy. Jenna was mny his own business.
He got a phone called Hey, yea man, we just
gave you thirty five a year.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Really, I wasn't expected to do the one thing. You
bet you better lock them up. There's some players when
they plays it's like it's common sense, it's common sense.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
It's like you know what O Yo's like, go ahead
and do it earlier than late, because the earlier you
do it, because by that second year he looks like
a bargain. That's what the Patriots are that's what the
Patriot's so good at. Oh, they gave him a botload
of money. Two years into the deal. They're like, damn,
they stole him. They stole Richard Seymore, they stole Tom Brady,

(29:39):
they stole Rob Gronkowski, they stole Logan Mankins, they stole
long enough.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I'm glad you just said that. Talk about stealing, talk
about paying players early, having a method to your manness.
Let's talk about Howie Roseman, Jeffrey Lewis, Yes, what they doing?
How do you think they have all those players accumulating
not only drafting smart, but paying them ahead the time.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
On purpose the time. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant business men.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
It is because guess what, O Joe, Now we'd bought
big coin early. It was Ay, think about it now,
you could we could have bought it when it was
fifty dollars a coin.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Or you we try to get it nine when it's
one hundred and twenty one thousand.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Got a question, what do you you understand digital currency?

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I don't. I don't understand digital anything.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
See a lot of I see a lot of tweets
and stuff about.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
You know, guys took their money.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
We saw Odell took his money and and and some
of it in crypto. Trevor Lawrence took some of his
signing bone with some of the other guys are taking money,
uh in crypto. I don't, I don't, and you can't
have it. You got to write the number down. I
just saw one guy had like two hundred and seventy
million dollars and if what they call it his pocket
book yep, and they only give you so many tracks

(31:00):
to get it before it's what.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
So No, I don't know, I don't, I don't. I
don't know anything about it, though, Joe.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
It's kind of like it's kind of like gambling, Like
you go to the casino and they try to get
you to play these games. I say, well, you got
some coin you're gonna let me play with because I play,
I'll learn how to play it.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
With your money.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
But I learned I play it with mine. I'm not
learning how to invest with my money. I'm gonna go
with somebody that he the understands it a lot better
than Shannon. That can help Shannon understand it. But no,
I don't understand digital currency. I don't understand the computer
I can put it on That's that's about all I
got for I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I don't know anything about the computer.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
If they can't, if they can't just like like on
my phone, they got Google, I can hear ESPN, I
can hit Google News.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
That's about all I got.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Or let me type in something I think, like on
a computer, you gotta type in like WW something right, Oh.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, yeah, you know you don't even have to type
in the WW. You just type in what they be
looking for dot com on the computer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
lot's short cut.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Let's s cut. I learned. I learned that in high school.
Oh no, I don't know nothing about the computer, So
I stay off the computer. I got. I got a
couple of in my house. I ain't been on him.
I can't. I can honestly tell you. I can't interpret
you the last time.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I mean even like walking on zoom Jordan come over here,
set that thing up for me, and he take off
and leave a lot of tag. But hey, it was
right and hung up. You be stuck, I called back
on my phone. I was talking to him on my phone. Joe, Oh, Joe,
I tried, I could get a I said, don't worry
A I said, I'm sorry, Hey, well try this. I say,

(32:38):
y'all doing all this talking, y'all waste the time. We
could be talking right now. So I just called back
on my phone. But hopefully, like you said, congratulations, Gary
Wilson four years, one hundred and thirty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
He earned every dime of it.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Rookie of the Year, had a career year last year,
one hundred and one catches, seven touchdowns. He's had one
thousand yards every year he's been in the NFL. Kudos
all right, o jo.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Exacts.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Coaching scouts ranked the top ten quarterbacks entering twenty twenty five.
No surprise at the top. Mahone Boy number two, Josh
Allen number three, Joe Burrow number four, Lamar Jackson number five,
Jaydon Daniels number six, Matthew Stafford number seven, Justin Herbert

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number eight, Jerry Goff number nine, Jalen Hurts number ten,
Baker Mayfield, Ojo, what did the act? What did the
execs get right? What did they get obviously?

Speaker 2 (33:38):
These are the execs.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
These are the people that sit up top, that watch
the game, that understand the game, that know the game
sometimes better than calsal fans.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Sometimes they don't.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
But now when it comes to two to three, two
three four, two three and four, that's interchangeable.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
They can eat, but four is interchangeable, and it's based
on preference.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Like number one is number one, number one is gonna
be who number one is for a very long time.
What he've been able to do in his NFL career
in such a short amount of time going down is
one of the greatest. And he's still got damn playing.
But two, three and four is interchanger for me. You know,
I'm putting Burrow, I'm putting Burrow second. I'm putting Borrow
second for me personally, after Burrow, I'm going Lamar. As

(34:24):
much as I love Josh Allen, love Josh Allen to death,
I love him, I love him to death, But obviously
after after after Josh, I mean, you can go Jaydon days.
You go see they see I'm surprised, See the shroud
is not there.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I'm surprised shrouded because if that it took this list
after his rookie year, I'm not so sure he's not then.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
And and and one of the things I do have
in probably is how do we have the Super Bowl
winning quarterback not in the top five. How do we
not have the Super Bowl winning quarterback not in the
top five?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Are what are you?

Speaker 3 (34:57):
What are you looking at?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Who out?

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Okay, if we take if we put Jalen Hurst in
the top five, who are you taking out the top five?

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Well, one, two, three, No, I would I wouldn't say
I wouldn't have to would be five.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
No. But okay, so that means you kick Jane Daniels.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, simply because Hurst is coming off a
super Bowl winning season.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I mean that That's how I would have put it.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
So when it comes to execs and making that decision,
I'm not sure what they're basing that off of. Because
James Dais had a hell of a year last year,
going to the NC Championship. Well, hell, Cy Stroud made
the playoffs his rookie year and turn that damn program program,
turn that damn franchise around his first year.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, people really love Justin Herbert.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah, Hey, I don't see how Justin I mean, seas,
I understand he's your arm talent OHO is undeniable, But
how'd Jalen Hurts take a step back when he has
the he still has the best offensive line in football.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
He has the best running back in football all. He
has a receiving cord his he might have a top
what he might have. He does have a top three
receiving duo. So how is he not like ranked? I'm
not so sure that I have. I wouldn't put album
put Joe. I get it. If you just looking at
somebody saying, Okay, we're gonna just go have y'all go

(36:19):
out there and throw the ball. Oh oh, he's gonna watch.
He can throw the ball probably sixty yards, gonna die.
He can throw. He can throw from one hash all
the way.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Up to the other. He can throw, he can make
all the throws. We're not denying that. Yeah, but are
we sure? Are we sure he's like that?

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I mean, I'm just I'm just saying he's he's like
that based on watching him.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
He was.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Hey when when Mike Williams and Keenan Allen were there.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
Herbert was a quarterback, right yeah, yeah yeah, man, Oh yeah,
we're not, Oh, Joe, We're not going to deny that
he can't spend the ball.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
He can't, Man, he can he can flat out he
can flat out throw it. And Miami's situation might be
a lot different had they had him at quarterback and
he's throwing the wattle in Tyreek and John new Smith
and some of the other guys that.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
He that had the opportunity. But here we are. I
agree with you, Ojo.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
The thing that what Josh does is that Josh has
he throws like thirty touchdowns and he might rush for
ten fifteen touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
That's what That's what.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
You're like, bro, how do we defend this guy because
if he's thirty one, he normally gonna get it, except
that that what that fourth dive when they wear party
they say they changed the rule.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
You notice, Buffalo, y'all ain't got a lot of rule change.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Y'all got the overtime rule changed because my homeboy got
the ball and y'all didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
And so they say, now we want everybody to touch
the ball, nobody to get the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, hey, and now you got Now they got instruments
that's gonna measure the first down whenever it having the
yard market one hundred years since they've had football, they
had the yard marker now.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
But this is a good thing.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
When you bring technology, technology into the game, technology is
gonna get it right every time. Because human error is inevitable,
human area is inevitable. When it comes to technology, they're
not going to get it wrong. A lot of people
that love the game of soccer, they don't like.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
VR technology, don't get it wrong.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
How many times we don't see the man that man
fumbled the ball and they said he didn't fumble, or
that wasn't no funning, They said he did fumble, or
that was an incomplete past, and it wasn't. And it
wasn't an incomplete past, right because they still got a call.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
They still got a call up, Oh New Jersey. Yeah,
most definitely.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Hey, speaking of quarterbacks, now that we're on that, on
that situation, a chat and I'm sure the chat would
probably agree with me as well. One player where we're
gonna have to have to have a conversation about him
because he was a number one pick. He has all
the tools and now he had the talent around him
to where he should look and be in the same

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conversation with the upper echelon of quarterbacks, especially the top
ten that was just named. And that's my young bull
down there in Jacksonville. There are no more excuses.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
There are Now you.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Got Travis at you got Travis Hunter. Now you got
Brian Toman Jr. I'm not sure who they have in
the slot. But this is the year, this is the
year you give.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Come on now, come on Sunshine.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not never Oh Joe, and I
think they got a running back. I don't know the
running back. Well they he kind of had a t
M on the back burner.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Oh oh I can't. I can't remember the name right now,
you see I can find him right quick.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Hey man, God damn man, I mean oh this is
I'm I'm.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Tank big at that rock what Yes, yes, he was
totaling that thing.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
So it's gonna be interested. You're right on your question
is can they protect? How good is the defense gonna
because look that division and that division got Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Tennessee is going with a rookie, all right? C J.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Stroud, Uh, we love what they do. What they do
in Houston, Indy. Indy is kind of unknown. They went
with it seems like they're gonna be they leaning toward
Daniel Jones. That's what it looks like to me. Oh,
now you can whatever. I don't think you bring a
guy give a got fourteen million for him to be
a backup.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
That's you know what, that's I can't say what I
want to say because those conversations that I had were
in just for me not to be repeated on here.
But what you just said is is what it's looking like.
I mean I'm to say, I'm I'm just gonna tell
you like that. Yeah, yeah, it's it's unfortunate, it's unfortunate.

(40:57):
And this is coming from in there, reliable sauce. I'm
not Adam Sheffond, but I'm I'm I'm let me take
my glass sauce, so you know I'm bullshit.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Reliable sauce. Come on, man, Yeah, come on man, oh Joe,
How they're gonna pay, How they're gonna pay.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
How they're gonna come in and pay somebody that works
up under you more than they pay you. If they're
not bringing that person in there to take your job.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
You know what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
They knew what they was doing because they were.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Absolutely But again, is he the answer? Is he the answer?
Because he wasn't answer in New York the question you.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Ask some changes because you come over here.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Okay, tell me the question you're asking, and then I
tell you if he to answer or not, you're talking
about as I need a question.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I know one thing.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
They got goddamn Jonathan Taylor back there, Alec Pearce, Michael
Pittman Jr.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
And God damn, it's one mode ship. I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
They got a Night of the Squad. Now, they got
nice of the squad. And the defense ain't too shabby. Now,
the defense ain't too shabby. Hey, Zia Franklin. But he
might be one of the best in the NFL. I'm
not saying he's not Fred Warner.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
They got Hunt. They got a nice little d line.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah, Hey, who's the Who's the d N for the
d N that's real good? In in in in indeed,
it's the d N he makes.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
He make a whole lot of noise.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Man, No, I think he was ninety nine. I could
be wrong, That's what Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Okay, Oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
They got Alan Pears, they got Josh Downs, they got
Michael Pittman.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Alex Pears is the one that went number ten. Huh Hey,
boy that he Alex Pearce. Boy, you could go. Boy,
you hear me, you could, boy, you can go every time,
every listen, every time I turn around. God damn Alex
Seers making the play deep.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
He behind somebody Ojo, you'd be cutting damn oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
After Herbert came in at number seven, Jeremy Fowler spoke
to an AFC executive who praised his study play, but
made an interesting observation about how he's perceived around the league.
He's always been a top five, top AQB accurate to
all levels athletics, sound decision maker the exact said, it's
almost like he's underrated now in my opinion, he's taken

(43:28):
for granted.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
All I know is that man have a twenty seven
point lead and they lost that underrated quarterback that we're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Yeah, and you know what games like that, if you
got a twenty seven point lead, you know what the
number one thing you need to have with a twenty
seven point lead being a game manager. The one word
that quarterbacks don't want to be called that they that
they think it's so bad. You manage the game game manager.
I'm not saying it's simple, it's easier said than done,

(44:04):
but your decision making, the way you process information, what
a twenty seven point.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Lead, it becomes different.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
You don't put the ball in harm's way, You don't
want three and outs. You want to you want long drives,
kill the goddamn clock.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeh.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
The greatest game manager or and the greatest quarterback and
the greatest quarterback, they're the same player, Tom Brady. Look
at Tom Brady and that in that that Super Bowl
against the Rams, he realized that it was gonna be
ay Man, look here, ten, ten, thirteen points might win
this game. Then he said, if you go, you go,

(44:41):
look at Caroline. They say, man, we'll shoot out. We
got a we got to score. How many times you
see Tom Brady blow up twenty one point lead, a
fourteen point lead because he understood. The one thing that
I admire most about him, and there's a lot of
things that you can mile by Tom Brady, is that
he understood in the first driver to what type of

(45:02):
game was gonna be in, what type of game he
was gonna need to play. Bro, I'm gonna need to
throw for three to fifty four hundred this game. Nah,
one forty five and no turnover was gonna win it
for us. Sometimes you get so caught up into who
we are. I'm great, I'm great. Let me show everybody
I'm great in all situations. When that's not needed. Tom
understood that even as even like in the beginning, he

(45:25):
was purely a game manager, they played to their defense.
But even after he became Tom Brady, Tom Brady, the
TV twelve, the historically and transcendent figure that he that
he is, he still understood his role.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Man, I can't turn the ball over, simple, And a
lot of.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Quarterbacks don't understand that because they get to a certain
level they feel, excuse me, I gotta play at this level.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Sometimes it doesn't require you to throw three hundred sometimes
one fifty one touchdowns and no turnovers. Or you could
throw for three fifty but you have three p lose
the game. The choice is yours you and Tom has
done a great job of that.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
There have been.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Few and far between games and with you like, well, hey, yeah, Tom,
you know turn over there that hurt us. He under
he understood, and sometimes don't yo, you have to he
fell behind and you have to like throw throw well
hell if I know, there ain't no threat of no
running game. Hey, But it was hard because he knew,

(46:32):
he knew where he was weak, he knew where you
were weak. He stayed to his strength and played to
your weakness. Oh yeah, yeah, I don't think me personally,
I don't think Justin Herbert is underrated. I think he's
rated about where he's supposed to be. I think he's
a very good quarterback. I think he has some great

(46:55):
talent around in. But I don't know underrated. Where where you?
I mean where you who you're putting him in front
of You're five to eight?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Okay you.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
And I know people say, well you gave if you
gave him that uh situation with Jalen.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Hurts saying, hey, honestly, I think you.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
I got you gotta be you gotta with the situation.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
That you got it and you can't all the comparison
and hypotheticals.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
It makes no sense. It makes no sense at all.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
I think you put any of you put you put
any of the top quarterbacks and Jailen hurt situation.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I think they went in the super Bowl. Yeah you know, yeah,
I mean look at off his mind.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
He got the if you said, okay, get the ten
top offensive alignment, he probably got four of them.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Four literally, no question.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Are definitely gonna be in the top ten. You can
make a case that Lane Johnson is the.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Best Wait, Lane Johnson is the best right tackle.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
No I'm saying when you say I'm just tackle now,
when Big Trent, when Big Trent held the.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Best left, we can't. We can't forget that. Deon Dawkins,
Deon Dalkins played left tack or right or left guard.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
He played left. He played left.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
But you look at Jordan my Alatta, you look at
Land and Dixon, you look at the center, I think
it's Jurgens. They lose an all Pro, a Pro Bowl center,
guy that's going to the Hall of Fame, and they
get another one kick right off, And then we talk
about lane.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Lane is what is lane? Is? Lane? He got the
right name, his mom name.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
When they name it, they name the right thing because
you run to that side, it's a damn lane. Best
believe it. So he he got he got the right name.
But me personally evaluating looking at all these quarterbacks and
see what their rank, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
I don't think Justin Herbert is. I'm not taking Justin
Herbert over any of these guys that's in front of it.
I'm not. I'm not taking them on through Stafford. I'm
not taking the over with Jayalen Hurts.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah, I listen, I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
I don't understand what the execs did or what they
were looking at, or how they made the assessment where
they had Jayden Damions at fifth in the Super Bowl
winning quarterback at eighth or seventh.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Or whatever it might have been.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
I don't have it happened he at ninth, at ninth
at that I don't. I don't understand that. Are they
are they using the talent around him against him and
seeing that James Damiens at five because he did more
with less, not more. Obviously he didn't win that that
that Pacific game, but still, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Teach his own but even the Super Bowl that they lost,
he played extremely well. He had those two gofts of
the turnovers, but if you look at it, he played
extremely well, and you know, you can't turn the ball
over the stays like that, and he had the one turnover,
but they overcame it and they forced Mahomes and that
team and the more turnovers and they won the game
going away.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
The game wasn't even close.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
It wasn't even interested after the first couple of drives. Yeah,
but I don't me personally, I don't think justin Herbert
it'll be interested to see what the chat thinks. But
I don't think just Herbert is under is underrated. Speaking
of Hurts, Nick Sirianni, what off on critics who say
Jalen Hurst was carried to the super Bowl by his team?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, that's bs.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Any time I hear that, it's cool, it's like it's
a nice debate thing that people like to have. And
I get it. There are a lot of hours on
TV show and radio station that have to feel and
to be able to debate. I understand that. But we're
talking about the ultimate team game. There it is, and
he does whatever he needs to do in order to
win each and every game. Oh Joe, is the criticism

(50:31):
of jailing Hurts?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Is it wory? You know?

Speaker 3 (50:35):
I don't think because the game is not pretty. He's
not throwing for three four hundred yards every game. You know,
they don't drop back and throw the ball a hundred
million times. You know they don't have to. I like
the quarterback that Jalen Hurts plays. I like the way
he plays the game. The game of football is not complicated, hunk,
It's really simple. I'm gonna take what you give me.

(50:56):
I'm not gonna make any mistakes. I have Saquon Barkley.
I'm gonna handed off to him. He gonna make things happen.
And when it's time to play the ball, when it's
time to throw the ball, And we had plays for
AJ Brown, we have played for Devonte Smith.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Some games AJ Brown.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Gonna be mad, why because they w But Devonte Smith
is going off.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Then you would have some games with.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Hell AJ Brown gonna go crazy and Devontae Smith is
not gonna get the ball. That's the way the game
is played. It's simple. At times, we tend to complicate
it because it doesn't look pretty and it's not esthetically pleasing.
The way Josh Allen does or the way Joe Burrow
throw for four hundred yards.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
That's not the game.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
That's not the game that they play over there in Philly,
which is probably why they're gonna be back again in
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Look, let me tell oh yo.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Look, it's if I like y'all making a case for you.
They held it against Terry Bradshaw. Nobody's ever said Terry
Bradshaw was the best, because why he had the best
offensive line, he had a Hall of Fame in the center,
he had two Hall of Fame receivers. He had a
Hall of Fame running back and he had five six
Hall of famers on the defense side of football, so
he never and he called his own place, so he
never got the credit.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
They didn't hold it against Joe. Joe just happened.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
I can make a case when people talk about the
best players to ever play, your three names that always
come up, Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, and Lawrence Taylor sprinkled
Jim Brown in there. They never held that. They never
held that against Joe. Now, I think a lot of
that had to do because Joe won two Super Bowls
before Jerry ever set foot in San Francisco. They said,

(52:29):
so with Joe, with Joe before he got there. But
they yeah, I get it. He had Offensive Player of
the Year in sae Quan the best running back in football. Okay,
he got the best offensive lineman football. He has two
quality He has two very good receivers. AJ Brown is
a three time Pro Bowler. Davontae Smith is a probably

(52:50):
the best number two receiver. That's what you know.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
One A one, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Peyton.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
They didn't hold that against Peyton. Hall of Fame, Marvin Harrison,
Hall of Fame, Marshall fault, Reggie Wayne, Jeff Saturday to
the Hall of Fame, Dallas Clark was a Pro Bowl
tight Endstoe. Yeah, a lot of times the people where

(53:23):
people gave the nod to Peyton, I mean to Tom
Is because Tom didn't have any of that until he
got Randy. You look at Wes Welcome undrafted free ager
Julian Edelman was a seventh round quarterback out of Kent State. Uh,
you look at Damon at Dan Avindla. I think he
was an undrafted branch. Troy Brown, Yeah, yeah, yeah, all

(53:44):
those all those guys, Uh, what the what was the
number eighty?

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Troy Brown?

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Yeah, So it was like he didn't have these big
name receivers that You're like, oh, I got to have him.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
I would take him. He's choosing up squads.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
You're like, oh, okay, I take him.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Look, I can't punish the man.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
They did a great job of Look they had a
quarterback in the second round. How we had the forethought
the foresight to see, yeah, we gave this guy a
lot of money. And you hear a lot of things
coming out of that coming out of of Philly, and
you heard some of the stuff that's coming out and
I don't know what to believe, but allegedly, you know,

(54:25):
you know, Carson Wentz was not the easiest to deal with,
and you you know, you couldn't tell them anything, and
Jayalen sluck right on in there. So you say, you
know what, we got this I like this guy. Let's
build around him. Now, that offensive line was already intact.
Lane was already there, that had Jason Kelsey already there, Dixon,

(54:49):
because Dixon got there the same time. Dixon was the
first round pick and Jalen Hurst was the second round pick.
So they just filled in the spots. They got Davonte
and next thing you know, they try to make a
trade for a J.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Brown.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
I don't know what the hell Tennessee was thinking to
get rid of AJ Brown. And it's like, well, we
got to our younger AJ Brown and trailing Burns.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
What listen? Some some say listen he.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
I don't know who idea that was. In fifteen regular
season games last season, hurt through for twenty nine hundred
and three yards, eighteen touchdowns, five intercession, His passing touchdowns
rate twenty his passing yards ranked twenty six.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Oh Joe, that's what they're not even throwing.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
To you said, they're really said simple football. They don't
complicate anything. We're gonna take what you give.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Us, so I did.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
So what we're gonna do is that we're gonna prove
to you that our quarterback and throw the football. So
we're gonna mess up this dynamic that we got just
to prove something to you.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
The object, the object to get the object win. That's
exactly why they won.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
If we gotta run it fifty times, we're gonna run
it fifty times. If we gotta throw it fifty times,
we'll throw it fifty times. We're gonna do whatever it
takes for us to win the game. That's the objective. Hello,
you play to win. Look at games. No, is he

(56:24):
gonna be with those with those numbers in that system.
Is not predicated for him to be an MVP. It's
not he's not gonna throw four enough touchdowns. He's not
gonna have enough passing yards. Not when guys are tipping
five thousand every year, guys are in the mid for
in the high thirties or the mid forties. As far
as passing touchdowns, it's not conducive. What it is conducive

(56:45):
for is him to be playing a lot on the last,
the last Sunday or the second Sunday in February. Yep,
it's conducive for that. And so you have to wait,
what are you looking for? What are you trying to
accomplish here?

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Hey, they win him, They win him ugly. They win
him ugly. Like I say all the time.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
The way they do win is not esthetically pleasing to others,
which is why they don't why they rank him how
they rank him.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Yes, yeah, I mean if you got into a passing
contest because he throw the ball like some of the guys.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
No, that's not what he does.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Not what he does, he win, Yeah,