Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Shai Gilegeous Alexander and the Oklahoma City Thunder beat the Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets to go up 3-2, the Indiana Pacers beat the Cleveland Cavaliers to advance to the Eastern Conference Finals & Stephen Curry is officially out for game 5 vs the Timberwolves & much more!
01:47 - Introduction
03:53 - Nuggets v Thunder
21:00 - Pacers v Cavs
40:43 - Steph officially out for game 5
45:39 - Mavs wont trade number 1 pick according to ESPN
56:20 - Anonymous source on the Nuggs says Russ is immature
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it out and are going to the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
The other team is on the cusp.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
The Oklahoma City Thunder outscore the Denver Nuggets by fifteen
in the fourth quarter to erase an eight point deficit.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
To win by seven, one twelve to one oh five.
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your tickets now, boy, it took everything, the grit that
they showed. Oklahoma City weren't normally involved in a whole
lot of games like this because they won.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
They were the best team in the NBA all year.
But to see them.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Execute the last two games in clutch situation, the last
five minutes of the ball game, the game within five points,
they've been sensational. The Thunder beat the Nuggets to take
a three to two series lead. Okay, see double digit
score in game five. Shape thirty one, Jub eighteen, Hartenstein fifteen,
Chet fourteen, Caruso thirteen, and Lou Dort had twelve. This
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was a total team effort. Yo Kischen came out. He
was very, very aggressive. He wasn't looking to get everybody
else involved. He was looking to dominate this game, and
he did, but he didn't get enough help. Forty four points,
fifteen rebounds, five assists, two steals, and he did it
on seventeen of twenty five, shooting five of seven from
the three point line, five to five from the free
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throw line. As I mentioned, fifteen points, five assists, two steals.
He only had two turnovers and he carried a heavy
workload forty four minutes all the starters Christian Brown forty
three minutes, Jamal Murray forty two minutes, Yoke forty four minutes,
Michael Porter Junior, who gave them nothing in the second
half along with Christian Brown. They scored zero points between
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the two of them. Mojo and they missed. They were
six I think in the third. In the second half,
Aaron Gordon had thirty seventh played thirty seven minutes, had
thirteen points. Matter you watched this game and going into
the fourth quarter, I know the Nuggets were very comfortable
because normally the last time they were here in the
second game they got blown out. And it's like, here
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we are. We got an a point lead heading into
the fourth quarter. We're playing extremely well. But the thunder
got a gear that they can get to it. I
don't know if the if the Nuggets are not hitting
on all cylinders, they can get to that level. What
do what impressed you the most about what you saw
from OKAC tonight?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Well, you know, okay see, I always had them winning.
I definitely had SGAs MVP. I do like the joker.
I mean, when you win sixty eight games and the
next team is in a fifties, I don't even know
how many games you know, different one you know, and
the MVPs are usually on that team, and they have
a really balanced singe.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
They all play defense.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And I think Joker is probably going to be kicking
himself in the butt, meaning he should be doing a
little bit more sprints, right like, because if he's gonna
play forty four minutes in the playoffs, and sometimes if
you look at the game, it's too easy.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So sometimes it was too easy.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
They're not doing those extra sprints because you're already getting
forty and twenty any way, right And these are those
games where you need to close out the extra defensive
slide to extra drive. And I think if Joker was
in a little bit better shape, he.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Pulls out this game by himself. But he did a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Then, Oh, Joe, you watching this game and you see
the Nuggets. They played extremely well for three quarters, they
played really well. Then they get out scored thirty four
to nineteen in the fourth quarter. Yo, kid was doing
all he could. Murray had twenty eight, but it was
a very inefficient twenty eight. He had twenty seven shots
to get it. He was three or thirteen from the
three point line. Christian Brown forty three minutes, three of
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twelve from the field, two of eight from the three
point line. Michael Porter Junior had played twenty nine minutes.
He was one of seven from the field. He was
all five from the three point line. You can't play
that many minutes and the only half two points. Christian
Brown had eight points in the first half. None of
the second half. They got no contribution. And when you
get that kind of contribution, they had six guys in
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double figures, ok C did.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
When you watch this game and you see late in the.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Game the two big guns Shay Gilgers and Jalen Williams
take this game over.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
What impressed you most about what you saw from OKC? Ojo?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Hey, honestly, I really think it came down to fatigue. Huh.
Both teams lean very heavy, very heavy on their starters.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Obviously obviously sold because of the playoffs and the severity
and the meaning of the importance of this game. Okay,
see rotated they players and short spurts where they only
had really one player over twenty twenty four minutes. You
look at Denver, they had full players that played over
thirty seven minutes. And obviously, when it came to those
last five minutes of the game, you know when it
was time to you know, to close out or they
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were switching late.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It showed.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Listen, Joker did what he could do. He just he
just looked tired. But even when he is tired, he
still show up to the party.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
You work. May he still give that work. Man. I
don't know what but the Michael Porter Junior, I don't know.
I don't know what Porter is. Michael Porter Junior. Right, yeah, man,
what young bull like that?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Doing?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Man nothing getting Cardio in He has a frame left
ac joint, if we know, that's very painful.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But if they can't get the job matter.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
At some point in time, If you can't get the
job done, you say, coach, I just can't get it
done because you not being a threat.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Now you allow them to load up on Yo.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You allow them to load up on Murray because they
don't view you as a scoring threat. So now if
you're not a threat, you're no good to your team
because now they can.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Go two on two, two on one, two on one,
they can load up on Yo.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And you see that's what happened later in the ball game,
because yeah, he hit a fadeaway three that I don't
know how that ball.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Went in, but it did go in.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
But Porter and Brown are gonna have to give them
more if they want to get back.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And come back to OKC for Game seven.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
What do you think they need to do in order
to win on Thursday night in and Denver to make
sure they have a game seven?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I think Saturday or Sunday probably a lot more body movement.
You know, then Joker have five or says, that's not normal.
I think he needs to have ten or sis, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
For them to they can't make shots matter that, you know,
in order to give those hiss the guy gotta put
the ball in the basket.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And that's the flip side. They gotta put the ball
in the basket. That's true. You know his Joker probably
took it on you know, took it upon himself.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
But you know, I feel like he's not in the
tennis sis range, and I think that's gonna be difficult.
Like like you said, it's gonna fall on the players.
They're gonna have to step it up because I'm looking
at Jamal Murray. Think about it, he had twenty eight points.
It took him twenty seven shots.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, that's not Christian Brown had eight points, but he
had twelve shots. Michael Porter Junior had two points. He
had seven shots, so and he was all five. So
Christin Brown and Michael Porter Junior, they were two of
thirteen from the three and so look, the thing is
that you have to have if I'm playing the different Nuggets,
what am I gonna do? Am I gonna make you'll
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get your score? Or I'm gonna let him be a facilitator.
But I can't let him do both because if he's
doing both, it's gonna be hard for you to beat him. Now,
Like you said, if he had forty four points and
ten twelve assists, where they win this game. But that
means players are making shots because it'd be interesting to
see how many potential assists he could have had had
guys made those shots. And that's the difference in this
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ball game. Because late in the fourth quarter when it
got time, they made their shots. Okay, see he made
their shots. And that's why you got six guys and
double figures. And you look at the rotation. The Nuggets
are playing eight guys, okay, see of playing ten guys.
You see the difference in eighteen minutes eleven minutes, even
Isaiah Joe only played five. Caruso gave you twenty four minutes,
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Jalen Williams gave you ten minutes, Lou Dort gave you
twenty eight, gave you twenty eight minutes, and then your
big guns. Gil just had thirty nine, thirty three for
Hard and Stegn, Jayalen Williams had thirty eight and chet
Hongan had thirty four. But that's what you have to
have in the situation like this, Oh Joe, you gotta
have your big guns to go.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Hey, Hey, but the god damn lou Dort when he
hit them three three's back to back.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Think of that, Jayson Williams, Hey, everybody collectively as a group,
they played very well offensively in transition on both ends
of the floor defensively, I think honestly met it. And
I really want to ask you, based on the way
they perform to night, the way the Thunder perform the night,
what are the chances you have them winning a chip
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this year?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Even though they young?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Can we get this series first to get out of
the West the conference?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Really listen, I don't mean no disrespect, but I really
think this series is over.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I think this is it's over. I think it's going seven.
What I think it's going seven?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
You think.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I could see it going seven with A because you know,
the Jokers are different here, a different beast.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
You know, you got two games away. That's how you're
looking at it. And now I didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I didn't necessarily think the Pacers was going to be
like a number one seed or beating a number one seed.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It's going to be good.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
But you know all the other teams in stat Jiannis
sg A, right, and so you know, I think the
Paces are coming out to the east, and so I
did have s J. I did have Okay, see right now,
I didn't have them favorite to win this year. So
I'm just gonna be honest. I did have them favorite
to win. But they if they go up against Indiana
and you know how that go.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'm facing down. I totally get that. I think that.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Look, Peyton Wathson, I mean, guys were bad. I mean
the reserves came in, they hit three shots. They're three
or fifteen. Peyton Watson was one of four, Russ was
one of seven, Strather was straight. Strather was one or two.
I mean yeah, one of two. So that's three or
thirteen shots. That's not good enough. That's that's not nearly
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good enough. When you look at what they got, what
they got out of their bench, they got fifteen eighteen,
they got twenty two. You gave them ten, they got
twenty two. So the thing is is that it's hard
for you. Yeah, And that's the thing about the playoffs.
It's really hard for your big guys to get a
rest because the game get away from you.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Just like that.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
They take Yoke out of they take Murray out and gone, Now, okay,
see goes.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
On a run.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
And that's really that's really hard.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
But you know, Yo knows he's gonna have to probably
play another forty four, forty five. He might have to
play forty six minutes get order for them to have
a chance. But they're gonna have to shoot the ball better.
Thirteen to forty six won't get it done. You shoot
another thirty percent and from the three, are you taking
that many?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Now they need to be in the third.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
They need to be somewhere between thirty five and thirty
eight percent if they're gonna shoot that many threes.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
And they got to help too, You got you got
to have something from the bench on something from the bench,
got to have. And the thing about it is, you
know Russell Westbrook at times, you know, he's up and down.
So he had a he had a somewhat of a
bad game tonight. I doubt he has a repeat performance
of that. You know, come come next game, because obviously
you're back against the wall. You don't have a choice
but to win this next game. Yeah, I think he's
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gonna show up. He gonna deliver yogurt. Joker's gonna be
Joker no matter what. And the NPJ gotta show up.
Michael Michael Port whether they got to drop the ball too.
Sometimes that's shot in that fall and you gotta If
you look at the Pacer game when they won, it
was down seven and Hallenburg had that lay up. It
was down seven to forty five seconds to what.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
The haller Burger start doing.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
He started driving and actually even in the first quarter
they were actually down that game. And then when a
young fellow McConnell got in the game, he started driving
the ball to the basket. Once he started driving the
ball to the basket changed the whole game.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And I think sometimes guys is afraid to use that
extra energy to, you know, to get to the teeth
of the defense.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
If that makes sense, Yeah, it does. But you look.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
At that's not Michael Porter Junior. He's basically who he's
a wing player. He's using to catch and shoot things
like that. He's not looking to put the ball on
the floor. Obviously, Murray put the ball on the floor.
Christen Brown can drive the ball, Gordon can drive the ball,
Yoke can do some of everything. But that's I mean,
other than Russ. But we talked about this at the
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beginning of the series. You've got to ride the Russ
roller coaster. I mean, you're gonna get a game where
you give you seventeen points and six rebounds and five assists,
but you're also gonna have a game where he plays
like this and he's not efficient and he's gonna turn
the ball over. That's you have to accept everything that
comes along, the good, the bad, the ugly, and the indifferent.
That's who Russell Westbrook is. That's basically what he had
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been in his entire career. Yeah, he can give you thirty,
but he can have a double. He can have a
trip dove, but he probably don't have seven to eight
assists that comes along with it. We okay, we're understanding that.
Now we know where we are, we know what we hope,
we know what we're gonna get from russ this. But
the other guys, I need Murray to be a little
bit more efficient. I need Christan Brown to give me
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more than what he gave me tonight. Michael Porter Junior,
two points won't get it. You cannot play twenty nine
minutes and give the team to two points. That will
not cut it. Two points, four rebounds, two assists not
nearly enough. That's not nearly enough against this team. Maybe
a maybe against the Clippers that was good. And if
you go back and look out how he played in
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Game three, he was great. Yeah he was. He was
great in Game three. He was one of the reasons
that they won. But this effort that they get that
uh go ahead, go ahead, Bell, I was.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Gonna say thanks for having me on a nightcap. I
got to catch this Connecting flight. I mean, I'm over here,
I'm in Dubai Dubai. I just left Sodi now I'm
in Connecting Dubai coming back to La. You know they
told me about being a night cap. I was like, man,
I got to give them a nightcap. But I want
to say the honor to be on a nightcap. I
love everything you do in the media. Chat you already know,
(15:30):
so good to see, sir, have me again. I would
love to come back on a nightcap.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Absolutely appreciate you stopping by for a few, a few
mumvels metal, Thank you, man, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Gil, catch that fly, Thank you all right? Bro?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, oh Joe, look yeah, thirty four to nineteen. They
got outscored. They were up by eight, they lose by seven,
and you think about it, they scored twenty eight, twenty eight,
thirty and then they dipped to nineteen. That was not
the quarter that you wanted to have your low scoring output.
You give OKAC credit. They're a great defensive team.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Uh. They can they switch everything. They can guard.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You know, you got Jalen Williams that can guard, Lou
Dort that can guard even when they come in. You know,
Caruso can guard, Wig, I can guard, Wallace can guard,
Joke and guard.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
They do a great job.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Chat Holgan and Isaiah Hartenstein doing a great job of
protecting the paint. Uh, Shay, it's great at at deflecting,
deflect getting deflection and stealing the ball.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So they're they're a very good defensive team.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I don't want to take anything away from them, but
I do think that Michael Porter he and Christian brod
a is gonna have to play better if they want
to force a Game seven and come back to Okay.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Do you make a coaching change? I mean, does a
coach make a change? And with Michael Porter Jr. Really
not give me anything, do you have somebody else play well?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Remember I said, and Joe said you And Joe said,
you don't want to mess up that and take the
production that Russ gives you off the bench. I made
that recommendation a couple of days ago. Remember, I mean,
at this point you you definitely got to do it.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I just just the wall.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
You're gonna go home one or the other.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
If he's that he's that injured. Hell, you can have
Russell and Russ can give you what two points?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I mean gave you four. Russ gave you four in
twenty minutes. But guys just got to be better. Guys
gotta be better. I mean the bench for the Nuggets
worth two of eight from the three that ain't good enough.
That's not good enough, but ok See is one win
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away from advancing to the Western Conference Finals, and thanks
to a one twelve one oh five victory over Denver,
Game Game six is back in Denver on Thursday. Great
balance scoring from the thunder six players and double figures
led by what we presume will.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Be the MVP Shake Gilges.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
He has thirty one points, six rebounds, seven assists, two steals,
two blocks, and they win one twelve to one oh five.
Tyrese Halliburton leaves the Pacers to the second straight Eastern
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Conference Finals thirty one points, eight assists, six rebounds, ten
or fifteen from the floor, six to ten from the
three points.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I think in the second quarter that's what did it.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
They were down by many in nineteen and then Halle
his like four or five threes, flipped the bonmetum, He
drove the basketball, He was sensationally.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He won this game for him and everybody.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I don't want to take anything away from anybody because
I thought Nie Smith played wellnim Hard played well. Siakam
again o Joe Jakham twenty one points, Nie Smith thirteen points,
thirteen rebounds, Myles Turner ten points, seven rebounds, nim Hard
eighteen points. Halle was sensational plus twenty seven, the highest
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plus minus. Shot fifty percent from the floor, they shot
forty three percent from the three.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Point line, and they win this game.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
They go on the road three games, all three games
in the number one seeded building.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
They won the ball game, and they.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Won it in clutch situations, playing great, and they was
putting the ball on the floor getting to the basket,
or he was shooting that rainbow three that was splashing
nothing but net. Every Mobley played great again tonight. He
was eight or twelve, twenty four points, eleven rebounds. He
got eleven points. Darius Garland, he's still nicked up four,
sixteen or six from the three.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
He had eleven parts, eleven point. Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Donovan Mitchell played thirty eight minutes, eight of twenty five
from the floor, four to thirteen, from three, fifteen to
twenty one from the free throw line, thirty five points.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I thought.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
What really hurt them, yeah, is that Donovan got fired
on a three point shot and he missed all three
of them. Oh y'all, yeah, he missed all three of them.
Matt Screws got great cardio and he didn't give you
no points. Tonight or six those three throws, uh fast, Yeah,
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it was a point at some point time. Now we
gotta start holding Donald Mitchell accountable. Now we say he's
a superstar and he has yet to get past the
second round. Now he was, They won sixty four games
this year. You hear a similar situation in Utah. At
what point in time do we say, all right, Donovan, Yeah,
all these all these acrobatics and seventy points and fifty
(20:29):
seven points in the playoff game and fifty points in
the playoff game.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
At some point in.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Time, we need to see that progress and you move
on to the next round.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Go ahead, okay, I mean, hell, Cleveland, Cleveland just shot
thirty percent man from the field of ninth, even twenty
five percent from three he had They had twenty three
eleven tone of us. I mean it took it, took
it took God damn Donald Mitchell. Shit, he had thirty
five point twenty five here. He took twenty five shots
to get it. Took a lot of shots. Did he
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even get it? And obviously the inconsistencies were scoring in
poor shooting from the perimeter. It can kill any momentum
for them or a chance of to come back regardless.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
The goddamn paces. But the goddamn paces everybody in double figures.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's how committee.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Everybody in double figures and everybody contributing.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
So I mean, you know, no, no, no disrespect to
the brother to brother's Donovan Michige.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
But he can on.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
He can only do sooner. He can do so much.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
And obviously Darius Darius Garland is hurt. You know, it's
it's evident, you can tell. But now without without without
a four ross, there's really no way they're gonna play.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I called it.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I called him the four about one team because that's
what they do. They run up and down the court
like damn four bout one hunh.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
They looking to push the ball, make or miss that
take it out the net or take it out of bounds,
but they're looking to push the tempo. And they were
doing a great job because they want to keep the
ball out of Halliburn's hand because he's the point guard.
I mean, he's the guy that's looking to push the tempo.
But they did a great job. But he got it
going in the second quarter, and I think he had
like fifteen fifteen, maybe fifteen seventeen points in the second
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quarter alone, I think it was fifteen. I think he
had fifteen to second quarter, and I think they were
all made threes and he was he was sensational. He
got it going, and then once he got it going,
they settled in. It's like and I think the thing
was is that once Cleveland couldn't blow them out, they
couldn't get any more separation on Joe, He's like, man,
we were up by at nineteen. We had the crowd
(22:26):
into the building, and here they are, They're still standing.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
We just hit him with our best.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
We hit them with a flurry that lasted about ten
minutes and they're still standing. Oh oh oh. Lebron James
tweeted halle f and hooping. Where's the Lames who said
he was overrated?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Quiet as hell?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
That boy nice even more, someone everyone would love to
play with.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Mind the game, Pard Tyree's Halliburn was voted most overrated
player most overrated by the players, and now he's on
his way to his second straight conference finals. I think,
if I'm not mistaken, they're the first four or lower
seed to make back to back conference finals. Ever, right,
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what is what do you think it is the reason
why he's received so much hate.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Now, I don't even think honestly when it comes to this,
if you ask all the players in the NBA, I
guarantee you none of them voted.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I guarantee you none of them actually voted for this.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
And it's something that that that that's construed us.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
If the players pos ojo, that's like saying for the
Let me ask your question. So in the NFL, when
they say they're ratings hundred players, you think they voteld On.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
We ain't talking about NFL. I'm talking about as play
a player. So if they don't vote for this, they're
not voting in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Correct. Or when the baseball have a pole, who's the
best player?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
They voted? I don't remember ever voting. Did you vote
because you.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Didn't have that pole? Did they have that? Did they
have that when you voted when you played? I have
no idea. How about how far to the top one
hundred go back? I think it goes back probably like
twenty twelve, twenty thirteen career?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yeah, I just actually I just because if if you added,
if you ask the NBA players about this Bowlt stuff,
he asked me if they voted all the cost they
don't attest their name to it because they smiling in
the man face.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Oh okay, I see yeah. You think I'm gonna say, yeah,
I voted hit most overrated. I just doubt it, man.
I just think it's something. I think it's something that
that that let me ask you a question, Well, how
do they come up with his name? Of all the players?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
There are four hundred and fifty players in the NBA
thirty teen fifteen players for the only Listen. You notice
they picked the top dogs, right, They picked the top dogs,
So he's the top dog.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
I think it's just his game is not pretty. It's
not aesthetically pleasing to most.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Okay, we'll say that. That's why they say.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
But let's not be disingenuous to say that the players
didn't vote.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
They voted, they did. I'm just being honest with you.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
He can't be as good as he's been all season long,
and all of a sudden, some players in the NBA
that respect each other unless it's a personal issue, are
gonna say, oh, he's over rated.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
It's the Oh my bad, it's the NBA.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
It's the NBA for one, and you respect the player
that's as good as he is and it's done what
he's done.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
But the problem that you have run into, Ojo.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
A lot of players are comparing them to who point
guard Steph Curry, who's another point guard, Shay Gilgers, who's
another point guard, Luca Donte.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
So okay, I like, I like it.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
You just said that comparison, like I always say, is
the thief of joy. Right when you're comparison them to
Stef and the Aga and all these other point guards,
where you wouldn't you wouldn't say he's overrated. You're just
saying he's not as good as them. Everybody just naming
aesthetically pleasing. Look at Shay's game and she a gange, smoothest,
goddamn butter got all the little kids, little infants can't
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even walk in they shooting threes. Yeah, so it's different
Haller Burd, you know his shot looked like Sean Marion.
You know, it's not pretty, look like Horrast Grant when
he shoot. I mean, it's just what it is. But
he gets the job done, yes, in not a beautiful way.
It's like if like you see a woman, right, you
see a nice woman, Shay, you know she's cute.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
And know what I'm since she turned around.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
It's like I not just thought it was right, but
it gets the job done right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I don't you be Yeah, yeah, but I but I
think what I think the thing is for me?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I do believe.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Look, oh Joe, Yeah, there's a reason why when you vote,
you go into a boost so nobody else knows what
you're doing.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I don't like that. We need to get rid of that.
Oh my bad, I keep cursing.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Look at that big guy.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I mean, Tyre's Halliburton, got, Rudy Gobert, Trey Young, Jimmy Butler,
Bradley Beal, Draymond Jah, Jude Randam, embiid Janni's, Dylan Brooks,
Paul George, Tyler, Hero, all these guys were on there.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
That's that's man.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I don't know one who reached the NBA is overrated? True,
because what what are you basically house? I mean, if
you're in the league, obviously there's levels of everything. Everybody
that works at a Fortune five hundred company.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Isn't the CEO.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
There's not the CFO, they're not the COO. So obviously
there's levels to it. And I think that's the thing
is that you're thinking like I said, but every one
of the players that's on this list has the ability
to make players that didn't make this list look foolish.
In the NFL, the worst player on his best day
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can make the best player on his worst day look bad. Absolutely,
that's the NFL, that's the N'S that's that's a NBA,
that's MLB. The best pitcher can go out there and
pitch six, seven, eight shutout innings, but then the best picture,
excuse me, the worst picture can pitch seven eight shutout innings.
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The best picture can go out there and pitch a
third of it in it and gave up eight hit,
gave up eight hit, five runs, and you've got pulled.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So when you look at it, they're all professionals.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, and any and any profession professional can make another
professional insand profession look foolish.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
And you know what I think, especially when it comes
to the one percent, NBA, NHL, UH, NFL, I think
the thing that separates all of the players is consistency.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Young.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Whoever can do it at a consistent level for a
very long period of time, some some people are inconsistent
with it. They can do it all night, but can't
do it on the other Chris, but consistently just really
really good and really never fall up underneath that that
meetingum of god. Damn, what the hell was at It's
just always good. And then sometimes it's.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Great, yes, but you do realize, like, to be great
is boring because you're doing the same.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Thing over and over over and over and.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I mean, what do you think, what do you think
you think Steph Curry going to the gym and kicking
the ball in the hoop? No, he's shooting threes over
and over and over and over again, and he's warming
up the same way over and over and over again.
And Lebron James is doing the same thing over and
over and over again. And Tiger did the same thing,
and people like that's boring. Greatness is bad monotonous.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, yeah, and now you.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Go in and doing it over and over.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's the repetition, and so you don't do it so
you can get it right. You do it until you
can't get it wrong. And that's what great, that's what great.
Tom Brady did the same thing for twenty plus years,
any probably saying, I mean, he enjoyed doing it, but
it was boring because he's watching film. He's going out there,
he's getting his band, he's getting his body loose, and
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he's throwing outs, and he's throwing sticks, and he's throwing
gold balls, and he's throwing over and he's throwing flat routes,
and he's throwing post routes.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
He's doing that every single day.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
And the funny thing about it, too is you talk
about people that are great and great at what they
do and.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
It's not even just sports.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's not even just sports.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
It it's things that people can apply to their everyday life.
But the hard part about it is nobody wants to
continue to do the same thing over and over.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Let alone have.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
The discipline to do it consistently until they become great
at something, whatever it be.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
And that's what may be. Everybody shortcuts. How can I
get to my end goal faster? How can I get
to my end goal faster?
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Never really wanting to put the work in, but wanting
the end result right away.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Because we can get a back away from Hey, it
never lasts. Huh. We're in the.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Microwave society, oh Joe, Because what I can do, I
can stick it in the microwave for a minute and
it's done. I ain't got to put it on the stove.
I ain't got to watch it. It ain't got a simmer,
I ain't got to go back and check it. I
just put a Hey, but listen.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because anything has ancient gratification.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
It's not sustainable at all.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
It's like a one hit wonder. It's like it's like
a one hit wonder.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I mean I wish, you know what, I wish we
could like have a like a Beyonce, somebody that's been
great for an extended period of time. And to Beyonce,
what I mean, what did you do? Because all you
hear is about how hard she worked, She knows what
she wants. She goes in the studio and she said, Okay,
I got it, and she does this over and over
over and over over and over over and over all
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the grace did it is? And people like, man, how
you eat the same thing? Because I want the same
result expect I don't expect anything different. You think lebron
j ain't expected anything different than than the greatness that
he's displayed for twenty two years. You think Tom Brady
expected something different from the greatness that he displayed throughout
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his NFL career once he got Once he got in there,
of course not that's why he did what he did,
and he try you try to find ways to improve
upon that. Tom didn't always do the TV twelve method.
He found some, but it's like, okay, I'll try it.
He had success, he never left it. Lebron got Mike Massias,
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Jordani at Tim Grover, Kobe had Grover boom.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
And so it is.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
It is a is A greatness requires it not a commitment,
but a singular focus, a singular focus. Jordan didn't have
no race car team, he didn't have all this stuff
while he played. Kobe didn't have all these Kobe was
not trying to win no oscar while he played. He
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had a singular focus. The greats have a singular focus now.
They've branched off now and when you see guys trying
to build their brand, and that's fine, but you have to,
like I think you get to a certain point you're like,
well and I don't really know how much of they're
doing is at because like, like let's take Lebron for example,
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he made it Savannah like I've always wanted to be
a host wife. I want to support my husband. I
want him to be the best at what he can do. Dude,
does I got this at home? Don't you worry about Bronnie.
Don't you worry about Bryce? Don't you worry about Surrey?
I got this. You handle that, Okay, Now he has
other endeavors. Maverick, you handle that. Rich Paul, you handle this. Randy,
(33:20):
you run the day to day. You make sure I
get from point A to point B wherever we need
to be. Boom mm hmm. He focuses on what he
focuses on. See everything is from Lebron. All Lebron do
is come down and eat may some battle might hand
him his jacket or something. He got to do it
until he got a driver here driving. I told him
(33:43):
what type? Hey, I saw him driving.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I hear him up.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I said, bro, hell, I ain't even know you have
driver likes. I ain't never seen you drive before. He
hippy the bowl you back, laughing. I'm like, damn, bro,
you can drive. You got driver's license. He's like, yeah, yeah,
I can drive. But but greatness it requires all encompassing. Yeah,
and that's why most people think people that are great
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that there you know what.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
They got a total vision.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
But if you notice you ever seen ping with them,
pigeons hanging, birds of a feather flock together.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You don't see ping with them, pigeons hanging. Ping was
hanging with penguins.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Pigeons hang with pigeons, Eagles hang with eagles, Hawks hang
with hawks. That's why you see people of a certain status,
because you know why. Brian Billy once told me, he said, Shay,
you know why movie stars married other movie stars, like
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I don't know, maybe don'nder sand that, he said, because
the other know what it's like to live in that world.
They know what it's like to jump in and out
of character, what they have to go lock in for
six months and be something and then all of a sudden.
So now when I'm irritable and I'm moody, guess what,
my partner did the same thing just last year.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
So I know what he's going through. She knows what
I'm going through. I can relate to it.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, I can relate. Relatability makes sense, It makes sense.
But Hally Burton Holley put on a show tonight. He
was sensational, and they won this game, clutch situation.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
They've been great all game long.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I mean, you look at two games, Cleveland probably kicking
themselves in the butt, had it, had it won, and
they came back and lost, and Indiana came back and
took both games. Couldn't we get a rematch of the
semifinals of last year in the Eastern Conference?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Nick Pacers.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Pacers go into the New MSG win a game seven,
It's gonna be very interested.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I think.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Brunston got Nick last year, but he's full go now.
This is gonna be a great.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Look.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I don't want to put the card before the horse,
but I do believe at some point in time, the
New York Knicks are gonna advance to the Eastern Conference Finals,
where they'll face the Indiana Pacers. That's what I do believe,
and I think it's gonna be a great It's gonna
be a great series. Steph Curry is officially out for
(36:15):
Game five in Minnesota's That means Golden State, treading in
the series three to one, will face elimination without their
best without their best player.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Does Golden State win this game tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (36:27):
I think they weive the white flag. Honestly, I just
honestly think that. I mean, I think they weaive the
white flag. I don't think they have a chance of
winning the game without Steph. If they do have a chance,
we're gonna need Jimmy Butler to be Jimmy Butler. We
need him to be playoff Jimmy. We need Buddy Hill
to be Buddy Hill that we saw score thirty I
(36:47):
forgot what knight that was. He got to come out.
He gotta have him out of body experience, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
No, you gotta have that game, that game seven in
Houston where he scored thirty three, and then he came
back the first game and I think the first game
the series, and Steph got hurt, he.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Dropped twenty two.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, he gonna he's gonna have to add something like that.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
So if anything muster, it's gonna be a two headed
muster from Jimmy and Buddy. If they're even gonna continue
and make it a game in general. If not, you
know what, the fat lady might have well start singing.
I don't know what song she gonna sing, but she
might well start singing.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I think the thing is, though, Man ant man, he
gets you down, bro, he don't let you up. He
from the South here, he knows that old saying killing
that with a sledge hammer. Oh yeah, don't wave at
him and shoe him and hope he don't come back.
When you see him right there, you get your sledge
hammer and you hammer his ass.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
You make sure, bro, that's overkilled. No it ain't. And
that's how ant man is.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
He got He had an opportunity to dispatch Book and
KD and he did it. He had an opportunity to
dispatch Yok and Murray and he did it. He had
an opportunity to dispatch Luke and Lebron and he did it.
Now he's gonna do I believe he. I believe they're
gonna win. Steph got hurt, but it's gonna be a nice,
a nice on his on his wall. Yeah, I mean
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he got head. If you know anything about hunting, I'm
not a hunter anymore, but hey, they like trophies and
so they go, you know, they try to go into
Africa and they try to try to get the big seven, Kate, buffalo,
a lion or leopard, yeah, and whatever the case may be,
and they put it on his wall.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
That's what he's going for.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
He a big game hunter and normally, hey, when he
says his target on something.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
When he says his sight on something, I like it,
you don't miss I like it, you don't miss It's
it's very.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Unfortunate, and you see what's happened, or it's a war
of platricia. That's when it comes down to injury. You
see Steph get injured, Donovan Mitchell got nicked, Jay, Jason Tatum,
it's out.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Ain't nobody feeling sorry for you?
Speaker 3 (38:55):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Hey, it's unfortunate, fortunate, And sometimes when it gets down
to this, it's a war patrician on Joe. Who who
is the health is? Who can stay the health is
the longest.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
That's what it comes down to.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Actually in any sport on Nomber, you ain't even talking
on basketball, whether it be football, NHL, no baseball, especially
especially your most important players, your Steph courage, Natum's.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
You know, they give you a chance. Just having it
makes you makes your job easy. Not do that part.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
And when you mentioned you said playoff Jimminy to show up.
Even if he shows up, he go needs one more
person to come along with him.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Yeah, that's why I said it gotta be buddy, it
gotta be buttery. Ohthough I forgot about COMMENTA, he didn't
have two games, two big games back to back.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
The guy wasted.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Because you know a ju Randall an ant man, you
know that what they're gonna give you.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, so one gym came out. Cannot do with both
of them.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
So somebody buddy commingle somebody positive poses due for a game.
Brazim skid. He hadn't played. Hey, he hadn't played well.
I'm not breaking news. I'm not interrupting your normally scheduled
programming to tell you this. He hasn't played well. He's
gonna have to play better if they're going to have
a chance to win this ball game. Yeah, so they
got their work cut out for him tomorrow. I mean,
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they would love to be in a situation, but at
this point in time, even if they win Game five,
I ain't bring his stuff back.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
I'm not finna run the risk of hurting that man.
That's why, that's that's why I said they way the
white flag. It's no need. There's no need, especially being
down three one.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
There's no need to bring him back and put him
through that and making him exert that kind of energy
to even get us back in this series.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Just get healthy, get ready, to enjoy your off season.
Step take you about two weeks, two weeks a month off,
go on vacation. You and Iisha take the kids on
going vacation somewhere. Relax, don't even worry it. Check back
in when you get back in and uh at in
the first of July.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
According to ESPN Teams McMahon, the Math won't trade the
number one pick. The Math planned this select dupe forward
Cooper flag and will not entertain the possibility of trading
away to pick for a proven superstar.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Mm hm, yes, there's no need. There's no need, especially
not them. You want to piss the fans off?
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Groogle Moore?
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Do you want to piss them off more? I'm not
I'm not sure they're a superstar that you would trade
him for. But I mean, honestly, uh Jo honest is
a good one.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
But I see I will do it. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
I like that that the fact of having Kyrie coming
back healthy.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
You got a d got Cooper flag.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Let's let's let's see what they could become before we
think about going to get Giannis.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Now, just told Yanni is going to Miami. But let's
get to hear know there.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Rich Paul also says Cooper flag going number one overall
to Dallas will allow him to develop on a reasonable
timeline as a rookie.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I agree. I think the thing is.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
It would be it would be more reasonable had Kyrie
not gotten nicked.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
But if Kyrie hadn't got nicked, they wouldn't be in
this situation to select it.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
So that's not here nor there.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
But I think he might have to pick up that
a little sooner because Kyrie's probably not gonna come back
until January of twenty sixth because he's coming stuff with.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
That knee injury. So him, ad we got something.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I mean, when you're the number one pick, oh Joe,
expectations are there.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I don't care how you could say.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Okay, a year, two years, three years, but the expectations
are you're the number one pick, excuse me. And when
you're the number one pick, the expectation you're supposed to
be franchise altering, You're supposed to be generation, you're supposed
to be Damnar transcendent.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I don't know, but I'm saying right.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
I mean, when you think about it, ain't nobody say,
oh Lebron gonna get be able to develop on his
own timeline. Shack will be able to develop on his
own timeline, Kareem will be able to Magic will be.
That is not what they said. Allen ivers is gonna
be able to develop on his own timeline. Ad will
be able to develop on his own timeline. That's not
what they say it. So it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
No, I think he can play. I think he's sensational. Yeah, yeah,
I mean he's a big kid. Can shoot the ball,
can put the ball on the floor. He gave the
US team all they can handle when when they were
getting ready to gear it up for the Olympics. So
he's going against NBA talent. He's played at an elite program.
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He knows the expectations. When you play that program, you
number one overall, So nothing is gonna surprise him. Like, man,
I ain't know they expected that from me. Yeah, you
number one overall pick. And when you're knowing overall pick,
they have lofty, lofty, lofty expectations. Yeah, and uh, and
I believe he can. I believe he can reach them.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I do.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Yeah. I think he's gonna be all right. He's gonna
be all right. Shoot, he's always he's always been that
guy for a very.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Long time, and just obviously his childhood dream is making
it to the NBA being the number one overall pick.
I don't think there's any pressure on him. At the
end of the day, it's still basketball and he's been playing.
You've been doing it real well for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
So this is what you wanted. Now you got.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, you got to show why you know one overall.
It's just like in any sport, you gotta show. I
need to see why you nombre pick. I got to
see why you're the first round draft pick. I gotta
see why you won the throw up a Ward, the
Player of the Year, of the Heidstmot Trophy, whatever the
ward is, don't you We need to see it now.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Yeah, Okay, I see why you wanted to ward ball. Okay,
you got that.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
You like that?
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Okay? We good.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Cause you know the coach go, hey, what do you
think about the draft pick?
Speaker 3 (44:47):
He canna play. He's gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
I mean once he figured out right now you can
see processing it, but once he get.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
It down, yeah, yeah, yeah, he could be. He go be.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
You won't have to worry about it.
Speaker 5 (44:59):
Yeah, I mean, how many how many times can you
think you could probably count on two hands or has
it been more than two hands where a player is
going number one and it's been absolutely.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Atrocious in football or basketball basketball?
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Anthony Bennett. No, I said absolutely like Anthony Bennett. He
was out of the league in a year? Is that atrocious?
Speaker 3 (45:23):
One?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Well, goddamn is were you asking? What year was this?
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Like? What do year?
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Lebron live? Twenty thirteen? Oh, he's got to be old.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Huh, twenty thirteen. There's been a lot of guys, o Jo.
He went number one, number one. He was that good,
good and terrible. He's good enough to go to number
one and bad enough to be god in the league.
It must must have been uphill though, but had to
be some mental I don't know what it was.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Who else, Michae, Oliver Candy, Kwame, Greg greg Olden was injured?
Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, Greg, o'dneeds I remember that.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Look Kwame. I don't think Kwame was bad. He just
for whatever reason, he went to the wrong situation. He
went to a situation where Jordan wanted a vet and
Jordan like thought you he should know. And there are
things that Kwame didn't know, and there was no one
there willing to teach it right, and so he didn't get.
He didn't get like if he went somewhere now that
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had that that had a let's just say Kame had
gone to the Spurs. Yes, where they'll give guys, they'll
work with a guy and give you an opportunity to grow.
I mean sometimes you go on the team, Ojo, like
you go to the Patriots. The Patriots ain't getting nobody
no time to grow. You come into the first round pick,
just issu up and be ready to play, right, That's it.
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And so I think that was the thing with Kwame.
I think he went to the wrong place. He needed
to go somewhere where they were going to give a
give the rookie giver at first round pick or a
high draft pick an opportunity to mature, to grow. That
ain't what Jordan Jordan like, now, I ain't got that
kind of time, bro, and every and think about he
went where then he goes to Kobe, you know Kobe,
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and you know what Kobe ow he on the same
stuff Jordan on.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
Man, that's what's that's too back to back Okay, Markev's faults.
Oh no, but he bounced back though false.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Right, Yeah, oh, Joe, you do realize, like when you're
number one overall pick, they expect you to be ah,
they expect you to be an All NBA, an All Star. Right,
Oh yeah, purpose he grew up there, I mean, I
know per personally. Uh, he's from Savannah, went to Louisville,
led him to the national championship as a freshman, beat
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Duke Damn Never Well they call him never nervous. But
then he stayed hurt so much. They say out of service.
Purpose man, you know, how didn't do bad? You know
they didn't be giving you a deep day. Hey. Uh
but yeah, that it's just expectations, Oh Joe, with anything
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when you go first overall because Ojo amber one.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah, he the first, the number one. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Uh. Baseball, you look at a guy like Josh Hamilton
had talent out the yan yank I watched him in
the home run derby at at the old Yankee Stadium,
hit it out the stadium, uh huh.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
But the demons got a hold of him, Ojo.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
And you know even though he early on he got
selected number one overall from the rais, he got got
tangled up, he got cleaned, came back, hit three point
fifty one, the one the won the MVP.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
They got him again.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
O Jo.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Yeah now he you know, hey, bro, Yeah, once to
get a hold of young man.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
It's on every day, Ojo, every day thinking about Ojo.
You can be sober for ten years straight. M one time.
You have to drive by a bar a package store
every day for the rest of your life. Yeah, not
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turn around, not put the blinker on and go inside.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Every day. You can't be around it.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah, if you would, if.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
You were at that, Oh Joe, you can't. Man, you
can't go hang on the corner with your boys if
you know what they do, right. My grandfather's always tell me,
I'm my brother boys. Association bringing on some association, brings
on assimilation. You hang around people long enough that doing
stuff you would start to do it. Also, it's hard
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to run in that circle. It's hard to run in
that circle where people are doing things that you know
aren't right, and then you just walk because eventually, like, man,
this is just one time and that's the time to
get you. It's just that one time that you decide.
So birds of a feather do flock together, ping with
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the pigeons, don't hang that's where not here. So you
know a lot of you know you with your bought man. Man,
I've been knowing bad, being old, your bad.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
We grew up in the sand box. I've been knowing
O your man, hold you on one six, one sixty.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Third and fielth damn man, I thought I throw a
grandpa growing up, my grandma throw the change together. So
as that tie man man, oh yo, cool man, own
your good people. Yeah, that's why associated with someone long enough.
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Mm that association brings on assimilation.
Speaker 5 (50:34):
No, I'm just I'm just thinking and just just hearing
examples just throughout life in general.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
You know, just I'm not even speaking hypotheticals.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
I'm just saying, well, you see certain people hanging with
certain individuals and them knowing.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Well, that ain't your company.
Speaker 5 (50:48):
That's not the kind of company you need to be
keeping because you know that you don't even rock like that.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
So why are you even associated with that? But oh,
oh Jo, I don't want to turn my back on you,
Oh you. I've been knowing you, man, y'all be knowing
you all my life. Oh Joe, we went to church together.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
I still go. You don't go no more, but I
still go. Andy Andy.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
So that's that's the that's the problem that people were
what are you hear, oh Joe, Yeah, he started hanging
with that wrong that crowd.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
Yeah yeah mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Ed got it called up in some some foolishness, some
bull dybe that it shouldn't have been in. And all
it takes is one oh ja, All it takes is
one time, one time.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
That's how it always happened.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
That's it because oh your you know, as an athlete,
we don't think anything's gonna happen to us. We think
we're invincible. We see stuff that happened out there in
the real world and say, ain't no way it.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Can never happen to me. I'm proof. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
An anonymous player on The Nugget says Russell Westbrook is immature,
Herbal Ramona Shelburne. According according to Ramona's article, she reported
minutes after the Nuggets lost Game two in the first
round series against the Clippers, Edelman had a problem. While
he had been at postgame lecture and there had been
a heated discussion between Westbrook and Gordon in the locker room.
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Multiple sources told ESPN Gordon that challenged Westbrook about his
attitude outside the locker room. One player laid why Gordon
might have done so. He's so immature, he said of Westbrook. First,
Russ's wife, Nina came to the defense on ig Why
the Nuggets title hopes might hand you on a volatile
player in the NBA. You should be a shamed of
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volatle You should be a shamed for so many reasons.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
I'll let you decipher them. Jay Williams doesn't one of
his excuses for NICOLEA. Jokic. That's h.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Who said, oh this what she wrote at Ramona Shevard
espn dirty work with Ramona? How could you share and
spread so many lives randomly for no reason and with
such conviction. You're using his name for clickbait during the playoffs,
which is ridiculous. Trust me, I know the facts about
every about literally everything. Normally, I let you guys tell
(53:04):
your silly lies in peace. Enough for already, stop with
the lies.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Go Nuggets. Hey, all right? You know players do get
into it all the time. You know that.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
I'm not sure why.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
Why is this even? Why is this even news? Okay,
that's a disagreement. Okay, I don't.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (53:25):
I don't like the way you act sometimes that's just
that's line.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
That's the sort for people that have never.
Speaker 5 (53:32):
Been a part of a locker room or any type
of organized activity.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
This happens all the goddamn time.
Speaker 5 (53:37):
Yeahs uh, hell Ship, I'm sure with some time.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
Carson didn't like some of the stuff I did. I'm
sure Coach Lewis didn't like some of the stuff I did.
What did they tell me? Hey, well, I don't like that,
but I needed to chill a little bit.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
Ship, big Willy, Big Willy told me stop talking to
the d He was alignement and TV timeouts.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
You don't have to deal with them a big Really,
she could be that big with you. I'm just talking, Ship.
He said, Yeah, you're talking trash, but we got a
block them.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Yeah, you're talking to trash the people you ain't got
a block.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
So I mean, okay, okay, I get it. There was
something that I mean, it happens. You have to have
you know, little riff rafts and okay, they got into it.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
So what mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
Yeah, I've been very fortunate to be in locker rooms
with stuff didn't get out. I think now, you know,
I don't know if people pill a talk.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Everybody chatty patty boy. Yeah, they can't wait.
Speaker 5 (54:46):
And it's a certain player that knows all the goddamn reporters,
and they always want to leave some stuff.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
Oh, it always comes from about somebody inside that inside
the house.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yeah, because I was Look, that's one thing.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
How was work? It was work.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
I don't I mean what we practiced, we met, we practiced, Oh,
such and such, such and such, call and says I say,
I don't know nothing about that, And I don't go
no further. I know somebody called you and said this,
But don't you call somebody else and say that, right,
because I don't want that is coming up. Because because
at the end of the day, you are a representation
of me. Keep your mind closed. What somebody else got
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going on that ain't got ished to do with you. You
worry about this house, all that other stuff that's going
on out there that ain't got nothing to do with you.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Well, did you?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
I don't know about nothing. It ain't my business to know.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
It's my business to know Shannon's business and what goes
on here. What you're doing, that's my business. All that
other stuff, what they're doing. I let them worry about
that because I can't control their house. I ain't in
the house, so I don't know what you're talking about.
What he said, Well, she, I don't see that. That's
the problem right there, he said, And now you repeating it.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
I don't get down like that.
Speaker 1 (56:05):
I don't want to hear nothing about what's going on
in somebody else house if it's not football related.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
Mm hmm. I ain't got any to do with A. Yeah, No,
I'm a.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
I'm like, hey, bro, all I'm saying, I ain't gonna
go a. You need you need to toe your screws
down a little bit. You're a little loose out here. Man, Sharp,
what you mean?
Speaker 3 (56:25):
What you mean? Hey, Sharp? Don't go out? But if
Sharp know, how did he know? Okay?
Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah, So I'm just gonna okay, okay, you're right, you're right,
you're right, you're right. Okay, that's all I'm saying because
I'm telling you, you know, d I don't know how
you do it wherever you were.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
But Mike can't gonna play that. Michael get rid of ass, yeah, quick, quick, quick.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
Quick.
Speaker 1 (56:59):
So anything that's gonna that's gonna take your focus away
from from from from winning ball games, right, not being attentive.
You know, look here, that's what they ate. You came
to work it. Hey, when you went to dub Valley,
Bronco Parkway, Ark, you went to work all that, all that,
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all that other stuff. And because I see, I try
to I try to warn them because we had to see.
We wanted the first teams that had cameras throughout the
whole building. Yeah, in meeting rooms, big meeting rooms.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
Training.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
I said, y'all do no, y'all run out of here,
y'all get on the phone. Y'all run out of here,
and you get on your cell phone. Man, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
Hey, you know what I'm saying. Hey, hey, listen, I'm laying.
I'm laying. I'm laughing because I'm guilty. Boy.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
Hey, hey, you have the ball. The ball people like, okay, yeah,
that's what I grab. Yes, so nod uh.
Speaker 3 (58:08):
Hey anyway, hey are you boy? You brought back some memories?
Boy you oh Joe, Yeah for that time, yes, huh, well,
I didn't have to be.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
I wasn't on special teams.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
But on Friday, so Friday they're like hey and and uh,
special teams. Coach would always say, Hey, we're gonna do
hands teams, So don't worry about it. We'll go over it.
Just be out there on field. Blah blah blah. So
I didn't really have to get to meetings till you know,
nine o'clock. But anyway, okay, we got a break. So
you know, we got the big meeting, Mike, we got
the big thing, and then we're gonna break up in
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the defense. Gon go in the area, offense stays here.
And then after the offense we're gonna be Okay, we
got a ten minute brea because we're gonna break up
an individual. We got the tight ends, the running back
to wide receivers.
Speaker 7 (59:00):
Man, sharp, Man, you ain't man, you ain't never on
the phone, man, you would what I mean?
Speaker 3 (59:08):
Damn?
Speaker 1 (59:11):
I said, let me ask you a question. Where do
you think my girl think I'm at? Mm hm, where
do you think I think she's at? Because see y'all
calling to check up? If I got to do that,
I got to get me a new girl.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (59:35):
I can't call him check up on you. You don't
call him check up on As a matter of fact,
my phone was off. Now if something like that, Look,
my phone was off. My nephew passed. They called her.
My sister called the broncos my phone was off. They said,
shouting up such and such, Mike, need to see you.
(59:55):
Damn became when I said, Yo, what's up? Like say, uh,
your nephew passed. Oh, say, your sister says she's been
trying to get in touch with you. I said, okay,
I call her.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Called her.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
She says, shouting my baby gone. It's like, all right,
I'll be there. Well, I said, Mike, I gotta go.
Say all right, just letting me know when you're coming back.
I went home, took care of my sister, got that situated. Yeah,
I came back with like a Saturday. I got back back.
(01:00:30):
Think that Wednesday. Right, I'm all business, bro. When I'm
at work. I'm at work. I ain't talking to nobody
on the phone. I ain't doing all that stuff. I
do all that study and now I'll talk. You know,
because it was two hours different in time, So I'm
going to work. I might call my sister or once
I got done with work before it got too late,
because you know it's already, you know, seven o'clock, my
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grandma going to bed. If I wanted to talk to
my grandy, I was like, hey, lib it put Greanty
on the phone right quick. But other than that, no,
I ain't about that, all that talking and and right
I'm at work.
Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
O yo, what am I doing at work? Yeah? Wait, boy,
you you better than me. Boy, we got two different approaches.
Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
But hey, listen when we hit when we leave that
big team meeting, and we got that like that ten
minute break before we go to to the office of meeting. Yeah,
I'm on that phone, boy, I I mean, I'm I'm
I'm being honest.
Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Job.
Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
Hey, I'm scrolling Twitter. I'm scrolling you know, cause this this,
this toward towards the end. I got twittered by that
by that time, two thousand down in the two thousand
and nine ten. Man, I'm all on that. Man, I'm
having a good time, you know, sending my tweets out
and boom, I'm going to a meeting.
Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Now.
Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
I was taking my phone with me to the meetings,
but once I hit that meeting room, well, I'm strictly business.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Yeah yeah, I never took I never took a phone
in the meeting.
Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Yeah, hey, boy, when when we got that break.
Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
Oh you know how black folks by when we get
a break, well we break Oh yeah, hey.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I ain't.
Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
I ain't play boy. You give me a break.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
I'm going to Joan, I'm on somebody. That's what I'm
going to do.
Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Okay, okay, game, that what we're going to do.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Then Austar Revers.
Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Austin Rivers said, cut to bes and name your source
when speaking on another player's character.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Let's take a listen to what he had to say
with Joe.
Speaker 8 (01:02:13):
Hey, listen, man, y'all kill me with this anonymous seriously, no,
no more of that. I don't want any more people
talking about, uh they heard such and such about a player, uh,
due to an anonymous source, or I heard uh some
you know this guy wants out, or he wants to
be traded, he wants to be signed here, he's unhappy,
(01:02:34):
or I heard that guy's not you know, a pleasure
to work around, says an anonymous source.
Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Another of the anonymous.
Speaker 8 (01:02:39):
If you're gonna speak on a player's character, if y'all
gonna come out here and talk about a player's personal
you know, life and certain things about him, either say
it with your chest and say that you feel this way,
or if.
Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
You're gonna quote somebody else, say their damn name. I'm
tired of the anonymous.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
That's never gonna happen because if you did that, you
would never get any information.
Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
Well how about how about not having to get information
and the people that have something to say actually come
out and say it. If you don't like something, just
come out and say it. If you if you it's
it's It's pretty simple, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
I think. I think it's like Keyboard Warriors.
Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
You know, people on Twitter talking trash and you know,
you know you can't get to them, so they say
whatever they want to because they.
Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Know it's the Internet.
Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
I think you know from media or analysts or punnits
that have issued with players or players having an issue
with with analysts or players having a big issue with players.
I think we need to be like I told young,
we need to start just telling the truth.
Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Just being honest, just being upfront.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
One of the biggest I think.
Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
I think it would make the world a better place.
Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Do you know one of the biggest stories in American
history with an anonymous source? Have you ever heard of Watergate?
Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Watergate? Watergate Gate?
Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
You know that started with anonymous source, right? Can you
imagine had that anonymous source hadn't stepped up what would
have happened. Can you imagine can you possibly fable mm hmm,
what the CIA was doing with those taps to doctor King?
Can you imagine? Yeah, I ran contract? I mean, did
that ring a bell anything? M Did you realize if
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it not were for whistleblowers and anonymous sores, you would
have never known nicotine was addictive and they was putting
it in your tobacco and cigarettes and chewing tobacco for
the longest time if it wasn't from an anonymous source.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
And the Tuskegee study.
Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
So be careful when you tell people to shut up, because, oh,
can you imagine if people never said a word, what
kind of predictably we would be in?
Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Are we sure? I get it? I get it, you
speaking this? I get it? But are you sure that's
what you want? Yeah? I mean they listen.
Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
They would never be quiet anyway, because you know, people
can't hold water on people can people can't hold water.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
It just can't. I think in certain situations they shouldn't. Look.
Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Look, I get it, but this has been going They
make it seem like it's like an anonymous source just
happened in the last five years, right, do they understand
first of all. It used to be a situation where
the reporters would never tell what the player was doing
and they saw.
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
It used to be you know what, I saw that, hey,
and you see me. I see you.
Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
Keep it moving.
Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
And it's not like that anymore. Oh, Joe, it's not
because everybody see the thing is now it's not about
being right.
Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
It's about being first.
Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
I gotta be first to get this story. Oh it's competition, Yeah,
just in case I am right.
Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Do you understand how much money these networks play for
these insiders. Yeah, that's why they can't turn their phone off.
Even Chef are doing an interview, poon going up there.
I gotta take this call and gotta step away. See
people see you mad at the monomous you You mad
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at the person that's delivering the information.
Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
You not mad at the person that told y'all.
Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Think how many times the battle Chef have been wrong
When you say a trade is gonna happen, a coach
is about to be fired, or somebody's about to do this.
Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
You're right.
Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
We need we need basketball reporters.
Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
And they talk about a Lebron James gonna gonna leave
Cleveland and Lebron James gonna leave Miami, and Lebron James
gonna leave Cleveland, and Kevin Durant's leaving you leaving the
Oka C.
Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Yeah, hey, how many time to think about it? Everything
I've said? How many times I've been wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
At this point in time? For me?
Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Oh, tr I just don't say anything.
Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Yeah, I just I just I just say it and
just walk away because if I face something, they gonna know.
Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
I let them discredit me.
Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Well, you don't know, you're not in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
People might say I talk a lot, but they don't
say I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 8 (01:07:22):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
But that's not my job. My job is not to
break news. I don't get paid for that. I don't
get paid. I'm not an insider. I don't get paid
for that. But I do like to get information. So
when I go on air and I talk about something,
or I come over here and talk about something, I
feel very very confident that people are not gonna recruit
repute what I say.
Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
Hey, it pays, it pays to know it, It pays
to know the right people. It does never never never burn,
no bridges off. You never know your knee.
Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
I would never give. I would never give.
Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
I don't give that if they got me in a quarterlaw,
I ain't telling it right that person, that person gave
me that information.
Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
It's going to my grave.
Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
A on the a off the record, off the record,
off the record, bro.
Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Put it in your words, got you.
Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Done? Deal?
Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
But the anonymous sources are not going to go away. No,
it never will.
Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Because people want to Joe, what people want to know? Yeah,
people want to know. Man, I wonder what Yan is
gonna do now the Yannis watches on. Who's gonna make
a deal. Who's interested in Yannis? Where does want to go?
That might be the case I told you, But the
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people people gonna want note and not when he's not. Oh, Joe,
I don't want to know. Hell, I don't want to
know what old sinners to drop it tomorrow. No, I
need some previews. I need somebody talking about it, like
a week of months of the dance. And let me
get a little trailer too. Yes, that's how it works.
But I get looked. I get it often that you
(01:09:23):
know they're talking about russ look for me. I don't
think this. This is not the first time that people
have have said stuff about Russ. Russe is used to
it now and his wife Nina has every right to
defend her husband.
Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
Way. The funny thing about Russ, but Rush don't give
to to you know what?
Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Shouldn't you don't care? Should you respond to you when
you get ready? Though? Let you he don't give to
you know what?
Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Yeah, exactly, So, Look, I mean that's not like earth
shadowing news. Look, Russ has a you know, his personalities,
you know, sometimes comes off as a bracst. But that
doesn't take away from the fact he's one of the
seventy five greatest players that woul play in the NBA. Y'all,
everybody want everybody to get along every they're different. I mean,
(01:10:10):
people have different personalities, and when you bring I don't care.
Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Hell, you don't even get along with everybody don't get
along with their own family.
Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
You think I'm gonna get along with somebody that that
I don't know that from a different background, different state,
different social and economics or or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
That's just the way it is, Oyo. That's why so
hard to.
Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Win, because no matter what Ojo Baptist Presbyterian Catholic of
Jehovah Witness, Muslim, whatever the case, Judaism, whatever the case
may be.
Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Right, we got a common goal.
Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
So I got to take all these different religions, all
these socio economic backgrounds.
Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
I gotta take all these different personalities.
Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
I got to take all these you know, orientations or
whatever the case may be, and I gotta have one
common goal.
Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
Yeah one. It ain't easy.
Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Now, because think about you, get your family, you got
a family of five, get everybody to agree to what
y'all want to eat tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Man, good luck with that.
Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
And you think you about to get fifty three players,
or you about to get fifteen players or your baseball
twenty nine players to agree and everybody get along.
Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
No, it ain't gonna happen, not even realistic.
Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Common goal. All I want you want to win. That's
all I care about. All that other stuff about yo,
I don't care about nothing. I don't care about none
of that until it starts to impact winning.
Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Yeah, bro, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
That's your life. You live it, you good within it.
If you like it, I love it. All I want
to do is all I want to know is that
you want to win.
Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (01:11:51):
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your tickets now, boy, it took everything, the grit that
they showed. Oklahoma City weren't normally involved in a whole
lot of games like this because they won.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
They were the best team in the NBA all year.
But to see them.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Execute the last two games in clutch situation, the last
five minutes of the ball game, the game within five points,
they've been sensational. The Thunder beat the Nuggets to take
a three to two series lead. Okay, see double digit
score in game five. Shape thirty one, Jub eighteen, Hartenstein fifteen,
Chet fourteen, Caruso thirteen, and Lou Dort had twelve. This
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was a total team effort. Yo Kischen came out. He
was very, very aggressive. He wasn't looking to get everybody
else involved. He was looking to dominate this game, and
he did, but he didn't get enough help. Forty four points,
fifteen rebounds, five assists, two steals, and he did it
on seventeen of twenty five, shooting five of seven from
the three point line, five to five from the free
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throw line. As I mentioned, fifteen points, five assists, two steals.
He only had two turnovers and he carried a heavy
workload forty four minutes all the starters Christian Brown forty
three minutes, Jamal Murray forty two minutes, Yoke forty four minutes,
Michael Porter Junior, who gave them nothing in the second
half along with Christian Brown. They scored zero points between
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the two of them. Mojo and they missed. They were
six I think in the third. In the second half,
Aaron Gordon had thirty seventh played thirty seven minutes, had
thirteen points. Matter you watched this game and going into
the fourth quarter, I know the Nuggets were very comfortable
because normally the last time they were here in the
second game they got blown out. And it's like, here
(04:01):
we are. We got an a point lead heading into
the fourth quarter. We're playing extremely well. But the thunder
got a gear that they can get to it. I
don't know if the if the Nuggets are not hitting
on all cylinders, they can get to that level. What
do what impressed you the most about what you saw
from OKAC tonight?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Well, you know, okay see, I always had them winning.
I definitely had SGAs MVP. I do like the joker.
I mean, when you win sixty eight games and the
next team is in a fifties, I don't even know
how many games you know, different one you know, and
the MVPs are usually on that team, and they have
a really balanced singe.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
They all play defense.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And I think Joker is probably going to be kicking
himself in the butt, meaning he should be doing a
little bit more sprints, right like, because if he's gonna
play forty four minutes in the playoffs, and sometimes if
you look at the game, it's too easy.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So sometimes it was too easy.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
They're not doing those extra sprints because you're already getting
forty and twenty any way, right And these are those
games where you need to close out the extra defensive
slide to extra drive. And I think if Joker was
in a little bit better shape, he.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Pulls out this game by himself. But he did a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Then, Oh, Joe, you watching this game and you see
the Nuggets. They played extremely well for three quarters, they
played really well. Then they get out scored thirty four
to nineteen in the fourth quarter. Yo, kid was doing
all he could. Murray had twenty eight, but it was
a very inefficient twenty eight. He had twenty seven shots
to get it. He was three or thirteen from the
three point line. Christian Brown forty three minutes, three of
(05:35):
twelve from the field, two of eight from the three
point line. Michael Porter Junior had played twenty nine minutes.
He was one of seven from the field. He was
all five from the three point line. You can't play
that many minutes and the only half two points. Christian
Brown had eight points in the first half. None of
the second half. They got no contribution. And when you
get that kind of contribution, they had six guys in
(05:55):
double figures, ok C did.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
When you watch this game and you see late in the.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Game the two big guns Shay Gilgers and Jalen Williams
take this game over.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
What impressed you most about what you saw from OKC? Ojo?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Hey, honestly, I really think it came down to fatigue. Huh.
Both teams lean very heavy, very heavy on their starters.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Obviously obviously sold because of the playoffs and the severity
and the meaning of the importance of this game. Okay,
see rotated they players and short spurts where they only
had really one player over twenty twenty four minutes. You
look at Denver, they had full players that played over
thirty seven minutes. And obviously, when it came to those
last five minutes of the game, you know when it
was time to you know, to close out or they
(06:37):
were switching late.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It showed.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Listen, Joker did what he could do. He just he
just looked tired. But even when he is tired, he
still show up to the party.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
You work. May he still give that work. Man. I
don't know what but the Michael Porter Junior, I don't know.
I don't know what Porter is. Michael Porter Junior. Right, yeah, man,
what young bull like that?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Doing?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Man nothing getting Cardio in He has a frame left
ac joint, if we know, that's very painful.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But if they can't get the job matter.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
At some point in time, If you can't get the
job done, you say, coach, I just can't get it
done because you not being a threat.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Now you allow them to load up on Yo.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You allow them to load up on Murray because they
don't view you as a scoring threat. So now if
you're not a threat, you're no good to your team
because now they can.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Go two on two, two on one, two on one,
they can load up on Yo.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And you see that's what happened later in the ball game,
because yeah, he hit a fadeaway three that I don't
know how that ball.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Went in, but it did go in.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
But Porter and Brown are gonna have to give them
more if they want to get back.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And come back to OKC for Game seven.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
What do you think they need to do in order
to win on Thursday night in and Denver to make
sure they have a game seven?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I think Saturday or Sunday probably a lot more body movement.
You know, then Joker have five or says, that's not normal.
I think he needs to have ten or sis, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
For them to they can't make shots matter that, you know,
in order to give those hiss the guy gotta put
the ball in the basket.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And that's the flip side. They gotta put the ball
in the basket. That's true. You know his Joker probably
took it on you know, took it upon himself.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
But you know, I feel like he's not in the
tennis sis range, and I think that's gonna be difficult.
Like like you said, it's gonna fall on the players.
They're gonna have to step it up because I'm looking
at Jamal Murray. Think about it, he had twenty eight points.
It took him twenty seven shots.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, that's not Christian Brown had eight points, but he
had twelve shots. Michael Porter Junior had two points. He
had seven shots, so and he was all five. So
Christin Brown and Michael Porter Junior, they were two of
thirteen from the three and so look, the thing is
that you have to have if I'm playing the different Nuggets,
what am I gonna do? Am I gonna make you'll
(08:46):
get your score? Or I'm gonna let him be a facilitator.
But I can't let him do both because if he's
doing both, it's gonna be hard for you to beat him. Now,
Like you said, if he had forty four points and
ten twelve assists, where they win this game. But that
means players are making shots because it'd be interesting to
see how many potential assists he could have had had
guys made those shots. And that's the difference in this
(09:08):
ball game. Because late in the fourth quarter when it
got time, they made their shots. Okay, see he made
their shots. And that's why you got six guys and
double figures. And you look at the rotation. The Nuggets
are playing eight guys, okay, see of playing ten guys.
You see the difference in eighteen minutes eleven minutes, even
Isaiah Joe only played five. Caruso gave you twenty four minutes,
(09:31):
Jalen Williams gave you ten minutes, Lou Dort gave you
twenty eight, gave you twenty eight minutes, and then your
big guns. Gil just had thirty nine, thirty three for
Hard and Stegn, Jayalen Williams had thirty eight and chet
Hongan had thirty four. But that's what you have to
have in the situation like this, Oh Joe, you gotta
have your big guns to go.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Hey, Hey, but the god damn lou Dort when he
hit them three three's back to back.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Think of that, Jayson Williams, Hey, everybody collectively as a group,
they played very well offensively in transition on both ends
of the floor defensively, I think honestly met it. And
I really want to ask you, based on the way
they perform to night, the way the Thunder perform the night,
what are the chances you have them winning a chip
(10:17):
this year?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Even though they young?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Can we get this series first to get out of
the West the conference?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Really listen, I don't mean no disrespect, but I really
think this series is over.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I think this is it's over. I think it's going seven.
What I think it's going seven?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
You think.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I could see it going seven with A because you know,
the Jokers are different here, a different beast.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
You know, you got two games away. That's how you're
looking at it. And now I didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I didn't necessarily think the Pacers was going to be
like a number one seed or beating a number one seed.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It's going to be good.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
But you know all the other teams in stat Jiannis
sg A, right, and so you know, I think the
Paces are coming out to the east, and so I
did have s J. I did have Okay, see right now,
I didn't have them favorite to win this year. So
I'm just gonna be honest. I did have them favorite
to win. But they if they go up against Indiana
and you know how that go.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'm facing down. I totally get that. I think that.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Look, Peyton Wathson, I mean, guys were bad. I mean
the reserves came in, they hit three shots. They're three
or fifteen. Peyton Watson was one of four, Russ was
one of seven, Strather was straight. Strather was one or two.
I mean yeah, one of two. So that's three or
thirteen shots. That's not good enough. That's that's not nearly
(11:40):
good enough. When you look at what they got, what
they got out of their bench, they got fifteen eighteen,
they got twenty two. You gave them ten, they got
twenty two. So the thing is is that it's hard
for you. Yeah, And that's the thing about the playoffs.
It's really hard for your big guys to get a
rest because the game get away from you.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Just like that.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
They take Yoke out of they take Murray out and gone, Now, okay,
see goes.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
On a run.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
And that's really that's really hard.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
But you know, Yo knows he's gonna have to probably
play another forty four, forty five. He might have to
play forty six minutes get order for them to have
a chance. But they're gonna have to shoot the ball better.
Thirteen to forty six won't get it done. You shoot
another thirty percent and from the three, are you taking
that many?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Now they need to be in the third.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
They need to be somewhere between thirty five and thirty
eight percent if they're gonna shoot that many threes.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
And they got to help too, You got you got
to have something from the bench on something from the bench,
got to have. And the thing about it is, you
know Russell Westbrook at times, you know, he's up and down.
So he had a he had a somewhat of a
bad game tonight. I doubt he has a repeat performance
of that. You know, come come next game, because obviously
you're back against the wall. You don't have a choice
but to win this next game. Yeah, I think he's
(12:49):
gonna show up. He gonna deliver yogurt. Joker's gonna be
Joker no matter what. And the NPJ gotta show up.
Michael Michael Port whether they got to drop the ball too.
Sometimes that's shot in that fall and you gotta If
you look at the Pacer game when they won, it
was down seven and Hallenburg had that lay up. It
was down seven to forty five seconds to what.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
The haller Burger start doing.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
He started driving and actually even in the first quarter
they were actually down that game. And then when a
young fellow McConnell got in the game, he started driving
the ball to the basket. Once he started driving the
ball to the basket changed the whole game.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And I think sometimes guys is afraid to use that
extra energy to, you know, to get to the teeth
of the defense.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
If that makes sense, Yeah, it does. But you look.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
At that's not Michael Porter Junior. He's basically who he's
a wing player. He's using to catch and shoot things
like that. He's not looking to put the ball on
the floor. Obviously, Murray put the ball on the floor.
Christen Brown can drive the ball, Gordon can drive the ball,
Yoke can do some of everything. But that's I mean,
other than Russ. But we talked about this at the
(13:53):
beginning of the series. You've got to ride the Russ
roller coaster. I mean, you're gonna get a game where
you give you seventeen points and six rebounds and five assists,
but you're also gonna have a game where he plays
like this and he's not efficient and he's gonna turn
the ball over. That's you have to accept everything that
comes along, the good, the bad, the ugly, and the indifferent.
That's who Russell Westbrook is. That's basically what he had
(14:15):
been in his entire career. Yeah, he can give you thirty,
but he can have a double. He can have a
trip dove, but he probably don't have seven to eight
assists that comes along with it. We okay, we're understanding that.
Now we know where we are, we know what we hope,
we know what we're gonna get from russ this. But
the other guys, I need Murray to be a little
bit more efficient. I need Christan Brown to give me
(14:37):
more than what he gave me tonight. Michael Porter Junior,
two points won't get it. You cannot play twenty nine
minutes and give the team to two points. That will
not cut it. Two points, four rebounds, two assists not
nearly enough. That's not nearly enough against this team. Maybe
a maybe against the Clippers that was good. And if
you go back and look out how he played in
(14:57):
Game three, he was great. Yeah he was. He was
great in Game three. He was one of the reasons
that they won. But this effort that they get that
uh go ahead, go ahead, Bell, I was.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Gonna say thanks for having me on a nightcap. I
got to catch this Connecting flight. I mean, I'm over here,
I'm in Dubai Dubai. I just left Sodi now I'm
in Connecting Dubai coming back to La. You know they
told me about being a night cap. I was like, man,
I got to give them a nightcap. But I want
to say the honor to be on a nightcap. I
love everything you do in the media. Chat you already know,
(15:30):
so good to see, sir, have me again. I would
love to come back on a nightcap.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Absolutely appreciate you stopping by for a few, a few
mumvels metal, Thank you, man, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Gil, catch that fly, Thank you all right? Bro?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, oh Joe, look yeah, thirty four to nineteen. They
got outscored. They were up by eight, they lose by seven,
and you think about it, they scored twenty eight, twenty eight,
thirty and then they dipped to nineteen. That was not
the quarter that you wanted to have your low scoring output.
You give OKAC credit. They're a great defensive team.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Uh. They can they switch everything. They can guard.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You know, you got Jalen Williams that can guard, Lou
Dort that can guard even when they come in. You know,
Caruso can guard, Wig, I can guard, Wallace can guard,
Joke and guard.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
They do a great job.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Chat Holgan and Isaiah Hartenstein doing a great job of
protecting the paint. Uh, Shay, it's great at at deflecting,
deflect getting deflection and stealing the ball.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So they're they're a very good defensive team.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I don't want to take anything away from them, but
I do think that Michael Porter he and Christian brod
a is gonna have to play better if they want
to force a Game seven and come back to Okay.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Do you make a coaching change? I mean, does a
coach make a change? And with Michael Porter Jr. Really
not give me anything, do you have somebody else play well?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Remember I said, and Joe said you And Joe said,
you don't want to mess up that and take the
production that Russ gives you off the bench. I made
that recommendation a couple of days ago. Remember, I mean,
at this point you you definitely got to do it.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I just just the wall.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
You're gonna go home one or the other.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
If he's that he's that injured. Hell, you can have
Russell and Russ can give you what two points?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I mean gave you four. Russ gave you four in
twenty minutes. But guys just got to be better. Guys
gotta be better. I mean the bench for the Nuggets
worth two of eight from the three that ain't good enough.
That's not good enough, but ok See is one win
(17:29):
away from advancing to the Western Conference Finals, and thanks
to a one twelve one oh five victory over Denver,
Game Game six is back in Denver on Thursday. Great
balance scoring from the thunder six players and double figures
led by what we presume will.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Be the MVP Shake Gilges.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
He has thirty one points, six rebounds, seven assists, two steals,
two blocks, and they win one twelve to one oh five.
Tyrese Halliburton leaves the Pacers to the second straight Eastern
(18:09):
Conference Finals thirty one points, eight assists, six rebounds, ten
or fifteen from the floor, six to ten from the
three points.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I think in the second quarter that's what did it.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
They were down by many in nineteen and then Halle
his like four or five threes, flipped the bonmetum, He
drove the basketball, He was sensationally.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He won this game for him and everybody.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I don't want to take anything away from anybody because
I thought Nie Smith played wellnim Hard played well. Siakam
again o Joe Jakham twenty one points, Nie Smith thirteen points,
thirteen rebounds, Myles Turner ten points, seven rebounds, nim Hard
eighteen points. Halle was sensational plus twenty seven, the highest
(18:58):
plus minus. Shot fifty percent from the floor, they shot
forty three percent from the three.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Point line, and they win this game.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
They go on the road three games, all three games
in the number one seeded building.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
They won the ball game, and they.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Won it in clutch situations, playing great, and they was
putting the ball on the floor getting to the basket,
or he was shooting that rainbow three that was splashing
nothing but net. Every Mobley played great again tonight. He
was eight or twelve, twenty four points, eleven rebounds. He
got eleven points. Darius Garland, he's still nicked up four,
sixteen or six from the three.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
He had eleven parts, eleven point. Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Donovan Mitchell played thirty eight minutes, eight of twenty five
from the floor, four to thirteen, from three, fifteen to
twenty one from the free throw line, thirty five points.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I thought.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
What really hurt them, yeah, is that Donovan got fired
on a three point shot and he missed all three
of them. Oh y'all, yeah, he missed all three of them.
Matt Screws got great cardio and he didn't give you
no points. Tonight or six those three throws, uh fast, Yeah,
(20:07):
it was a point at some point time. Now we
gotta start holding Donald Mitchell accountable. Now we say he's
a superstar and he has yet to get past the
second round. Now he was, They won sixty four games
this year. You hear a similar situation in Utah. At
what point in time do we say, all right, Donovan, Yeah,
all these all these acrobatics and seventy points and fifty
(20:29):
seven points in the playoff game and fifty points in
the playoff game.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
At some point in.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Time, we need to see that progress and you move
on to the next round.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Go ahead, okay, I mean, hell, Cleveland, Cleveland just shot
thirty percent man from the field of ninth, even twenty
five percent from three he had They had twenty three
eleven tone of us. I mean it took it, took
it took God damn Donald Mitchell. Shit, he had thirty
five point twenty five here. He took twenty five shots
to get it. Took a lot of shots. Did he
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even get it? And obviously the inconsistencies were scoring in
poor shooting from the perimeter. It can kill any momentum
for them or a chance of to come back regardless.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
The goddamn paces. But the goddamn paces everybody in double figures.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's how committee.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Everybody in double figures and everybody contributing.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
So I mean, you know, no, no, no disrespect to
the brother to brother's Donovan Michige.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
But he can on.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
He can only do sooner. He can do so much.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
And obviously Darius Darius Garland is hurt. You know, it's
it's evident, you can tell. But now without without without
a four ross, there's really no way they're gonna play.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I called it.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I called him the four about one team because that's
what they do. They run up and down the court
like damn four bout one hunh.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
They looking to push the ball, make or miss that
take it out the net or take it out of bounds,
but they're looking to push the tempo. And they were
doing a great job because they want to keep the
ball out of Halliburn's hand because he's the point guard.
I mean, he's the guy that's looking to push the tempo.
But they did a great job. But he got it
going in the second quarter, and I think he had
like fifteen fifteen, maybe fifteen seventeen points in the second
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quarter alone, I think it was fifteen. I think he
had fifteen to second quarter, and I think they were
all made threes and he was he was sensational. He
got it going, and then once he got it going,
they settled in. It's like and I think the thing
was is that once Cleveland couldn't blow them out, they
couldn't get any more separation on Joe, He's like, man,
we were up by at nineteen. We had the crowd
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into the building, and here they are, They're still standing.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
We just hit him with our best.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
We hit them with a flurry that lasted about ten
minutes and they're still standing. Oh oh oh. Lebron James
tweeted halle f and hooping. Where's the Lames who said
he was overrated?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Quiet as hell?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
That boy nice even more, someone everyone would love to
play with.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Mind the game, Pard Tyree's Halliburn was voted most overrated
player most overrated by the players, and now he's on
his way to his second straight conference finals. I think,
if I'm not mistaken, they're the first four or lower
seed to make back to back conference finals. Ever, right,
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what is what do you think it is the reason
why he's received so much hate.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Now, I don't even think honestly when it comes to this,
if you ask all the players in the NBA, I
guarantee you none of them voted.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I guarantee you none of them actually voted for this.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
And it's something that that that that's construed us.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
If the players pos ojo, that's like saying for the
Let me ask your question. So in the NFL, when
they say they're ratings hundred players, you think they voteld On.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
We ain't talking about NFL. I'm talking about as play
a player. So if they don't vote for this, they're
not voting in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Correct. Or when the baseball have a pole, who's the
best player?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
They voted? I don't remember ever voting. Did you vote
because you.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Didn't have that pole? Did they have that? Did they
have that when you voted when you played? I have
no idea. How about how far to the top one
hundred go back? I think it goes back probably like
twenty twelve, twenty thirteen career?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yeah, I just actually I just because if if you added,
if you ask the NBA players about this Bowlt stuff,
he asked me if they voted all the cost they
don't attest their name to it because they smiling in
the man face.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Oh okay, I see yeah. You think I'm gonna say, yeah,
I voted hit most overrated. I just doubt it, man.
I just think it's something. I think it's something that
that that let me ask you a question, Well, how
do they come up with his name? Of all the players?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
There are four hundred and fifty players in the NBA
thirty teen fifteen players for the only Listen. You notice
they picked the top dogs, right, They picked the top dogs,
So he's the top dog.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
I think it's just his game is not pretty. It's
not aesthetically pleasing to most.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Okay, we'll say that. That's why they say.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
But let's not be disingenuous to say that the players
didn't vote.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
They voted, they did. I'm just being honest with you.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
He can't be as good as he's been all season long,
and all of a sudden, some players in the NBA
that respect each other unless it's a personal issue, are
gonna say, oh, he's over rated.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
It's the Oh my bad, it's the NBA.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
It's the NBA for one, and you respect the player
that's as good as he is and it's done what
he's done.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
But the problem that you have run into, Ojo.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
A lot of players are comparing them to who point
guard Steph Curry, who's another point guard, Shay Gilgers, who's
another point guard, Luca Donte.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
So okay, I like, I like it.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
You just said that comparison, like I always say, is
the thief of joy. Right when you're comparison them to
Stef and the Aga and all these other point guards,
where you wouldn't you wouldn't say he's overrated. You're just
saying he's not as good as them. Everybody just naming
aesthetically pleasing. Look at Shay's game and she a gange, smoothest,
goddamn butter got all the little kids, little infants can't
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even walk in they shooting threes. Yeah, so it's different
Haller Burd, you know his shot looked like Sean Marion.
You know, it's not pretty, look like Horrast Grant when
he shoot. I mean, it's just what it is. But
he gets the job done, yes, in not a beautiful way.
It's like if like you see a woman, right, you
see a nice woman, Shay, you know she's cute.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
And know what I'm since she turned around.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
It's like I not just thought it was right, but
it gets the job done right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I don't you be Yeah, yeah, but I but I
think what I think the thing is for me?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I do believe.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Look, oh Joe, Yeah, there's a reason why when you vote,
you go into a boost so nobody else knows what
you're doing.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I don't like that. We need to get rid of that.
Oh my bad, I keep cursing.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Look at that big guy.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I mean, Tyre's Halliburton, got, Rudy Gobert, Trey Young, Jimmy Butler,
Bradley Beal, Draymond Jah, Jude Randam, embiid Janni's, Dylan Brooks,
Paul George, Tyler, Hero, all these guys were on there.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
That's that's man.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I don't know one who reached the NBA is overrated? True,
because what what are you basically house? I mean, if
you're in the league, obviously there's levels of everything. Everybody
that works at a Fortune five hundred company.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Isn't the CEO.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
There's not the CFO, they're not the COO. So obviously
there's levels to it. And I think that's the thing
is that you're thinking like I said, but every one
of the players that's on this list has the ability
to make players that didn't make this list look foolish.
In the NFL, the worst player on his best day
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can make the best player on his worst day look bad. Absolutely,
that's the NFL, that's the N'S that's that's a NBA,
that's MLB. The best pitcher can go out there and
pitch six, seven, eight shutout innings, but then the best picture,
excuse me, the worst picture can pitch seven eight shutout innings.
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The best picture can go out there and pitch a
third of it in it and gave up eight hit,
gave up eight hit, five runs, and you've got pulled.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So when you look at it, they're all professionals.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, and any and any profession professional can make another
professional insand profession look foolish.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
And you know what I think, especially when it comes
to the one percent, NBA, NHL, UH, NFL, I think
the thing that separates all of the players is consistency.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Young.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Whoever can do it at a consistent level for a
very long period of time, some some people are inconsistent
with it. They can do it all night, but can't
do it on the other Chris, but consistently just really
really good and really never fall up underneath that that
meetingum of god. Damn, what the hell was at It's
just always good. And then sometimes it's.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Great, yes, but you do realize, like, to be great
is boring because you're doing the same.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Thing over and over over and over and.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I mean, what do you think, what do you think
you think Steph Curry going to the gym and kicking
the ball in the hoop? No, he's shooting threes over
and over and over and over again, and he's warming
up the same way over and over and over again.
And Lebron James is doing the same thing over and
over and over again. And Tiger did the same thing,
and people like that's boring. Greatness is bad monotonous.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, yeah, and now you.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Go in and doing it over and over.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's the repetition, and so you don't do it so
you can get it right. You do it until you
can't get it wrong. And that's what great, that's what great.
Tom Brady did the same thing for twenty plus years,
any probably saying, I mean, he enjoyed doing it, but
it was boring because he's watching film. He's going out there,
he's getting his band, he's getting his body loose, and
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he's throwing outs, and he's throwing sticks, and he's throwing
gold balls, and he's throwing over and he's throwing flat routes,
and he's throwing post routes.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
He's doing that every single day.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
And the funny thing about it, too is you talk
about people that are great and great at what they
do and.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
It's not even just sports.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's not even just sports.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
It it's things that people can apply to their everyday life.
But the hard part about it is nobody wants to
continue to do the same thing over and over.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Let alone have.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
The discipline to do it consistently until they become great
at something, whatever it be.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
And that's what may be. Everybody shortcuts. How can I
get to my end goal faster? How can I get
to my end goal faster?
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Never really wanting to put the work in, but wanting
the end result right away.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Because we can get a back away from Hey, it
never lasts. Huh. We're in the.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Microwave society, oh Joe, Because what I can do, I
can stick it in the microwave for a minute and
it's done. I ain't got to put it on the stove.
I ain't got to watch it. It ain't got a simmer,
I ain't got to go back and check it. I
just put a Hey, but listen.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because anything has ancient gratification.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
It's not sustainable at all.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
It's like a one hit wonder. It's like it's like
a one hit wonder.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I mean I wish, you know what, I wish we
could like have a like a Beyonce, somebody that's been
great for an extended period of time. And to Beyonce,
what I mean, what did you do? Because all you
hear is about how hard she worked, She knows what
she wants. She goes in the studio and she said, Okay,
I got it, and she does this over and over
over and over over and over over and over all
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the grace did it is? And people like, man, how
you eat the same thing? Because I want the same
result expect I don't expect anything different. You think lebron
j ain't expected anything different than than the greatness that
he's displayed for twenty two years. You think Tom Brady
expected something different from the greatness that he displayed throughout
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his NFL career once he got Once he got in there,
of course not that's why he did what he did,
and he try you try to find ways to improve
upon that. Tom didn't always do the TV twelve method.
He found some, but it's like, okay, I'll try it.
He had success, he never left it. Lebron got Mike Massias,
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Jordani at Tim Grover, Kobe had Grover boom.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
And so it is.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
It is a is A greatness requires it not a commitment,
but a singular focus, a singular focus. Jordan didn't have
no race car team, he didn't have all this stuff
while he played. Kobe didn't have all these Kobe was
not trying to win no oscar while he played. He
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had a singular focus. The greats have a singular focus now.
They've branched off now and when you see guys trying
to build their brand, and that's fine, but you have to,
like I think you get to a certain point you're like,
well and I don't really know how much of they're
doing is at because like, like let's take Lebron for example,
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he made it Savannah like I've always wanted to be
a host wife. I want to support my husband. I
want him to be the best at what he can do. Dude,
does I got this at home? Don't you worry about Bronnie.
Don't you worry about Bryce? Don't you worry about Surrey?
I got this. You handle that, Okay, Now he has
other endeavors. Maverick, you handle that. Rich Paul, you handle this. Randy,
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you run the day to day. You make sure I
get from point A to point B wherever we need
to be. Boom mm hmm. He focuses on what he
focuses on. See everything is from Lebron. All Lebron do
is come down and eat may some battle might hand
him his jacket or something. He got to do it
until he got a driver here driving. I told him
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what type? Hey, I saw him driving.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I hear him up.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I said, bro, hell, I ain't even know you have
driver likes. I ain't never seen you drive before. He
hippy the bowl you back, laughing. I'm like, damn, bro,
you can drive. You got driver's license. He's like, yeah, yeah,
I can drive. But but greatness it requires all encompassing. Yeah,
and that's why most people think people that are great
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that there you know what.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
They got a total vision.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
But if you notice you ever seen ping with them,
pigeons hanging, birds of a feather flock together.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You don't see ping with them, pigeons hanging. Ping was
hanging with penguins.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Pigeons hang with pigeons, Eagles hang with eagles, Hawks hang
with hawks. That's why you see people of a certain status,
because you know why. Brian Billy once told me, he said, Shay,
you know why movie stars married other movie stars, like
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I don't know, maybe don'nder sand that, he said, because
the other know what it's like to live in that world.
They know what it's like to jump in and out
of character, what they have to go lock in for
six months and be something and then all of a sudden.
So now when I'm irritable and I'm moody, guess what,
my partner did the same thing just last year.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
So I know what he's going through. She knows what
I'm going through. I can relate to it.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, I can relate. Relatability makes sense, It makes sense.
But Hally Burton Holley put on a show tonight. He
was sensational, and they won this game, clutch situation.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
They've been great all game long.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I mean, you look at two games, Cleveland probably kicking
themselves in the butt, had it, had it won, and
they came back and lost, and Indiana came back and
took both games. Couldn't we get a rematch of the
semifinals of last year in the Eastern Conference?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Nick Pacers.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Pacers go into the New MSG win a game seven,
It's gonna be very interested.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I think.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Brunston got Nick last year, but he's full go now.
This is gonna be a great.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Look.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I don't want to put the card before the horse,
but I do believe at some point in time, the
New York Knicks are gonna advance to the Eastern Conference Finals,
where they'll face the Indiana Pacers. That's what I do believe,
and I think it's gonna be a great It's gonna
be a great series. Steph Curry is officially out for
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Game five in Minnesota's That means Golden State, treading in
the series three to one, will face elimination without their
best without their best player.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Does Golden State win this game tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (36:27):
I think they weive the white flag. Honestly, I just
honestly think that. I mean, I think they weaive the
white flag. I don't think they have a chance of
winning the game without Steph. If they do have a chance,
we're gonna need Jimmy Butler to be Jimmy Butler. We
need him to be playoff Jimmy. We need Buddy Hill
to be Buddy Hill that we saw score thirty I
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forgot what knight that was. He got to come out.
He gotta have him out of body experience, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
No, you gotta have that game, that game seven in
Houston where he scored thirty three, and then he came
back the first game and I think the first game
the series, and Steph got hurt, he.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Dropped twenty two.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, he gonna he's gonna have to add something like that.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
So if anything muster, it's gonna be a two headed
muster from Jimmy and Buddy. If they're even gonna continue
and make it a game in general. If not, you
know what, the fat lady might have well start singing.
I don't know what song she gonna sing, but she
might well start singing.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I think the thing is, though, Man ant man, he
gets you down, bro, he don't let you up. He
from the South here, he knows that old saying killing
that with a sledge hammer. Oh yeah, don't wave at
him and shoe him and hope he don't come back.
When you see him right there, you get your sledge
hammer and you hammer his ass.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
You make sure, bro, that's overkilled. No it ain't. And
that's how ant man is.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
He got He had an opportunity to dispatch Book and
KD and he did it. He had an opportunity to
dispatch Yok and Murray and he did it. He had
an opportunity to dispatch Luke and Lebron and he did it.
Now he's gonna do I believe he. I believe they're
gonna win. Steph got hurt, but it's gonna be a nice,
a nice on his on his wall. Yeah, I mean
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he got head. If you know anything about hunting, I'm
not a hunter anymore, but hey, they like trophies and
so they go, you know, they try to go into
Africa and they try to try to get the big seven, Kate, buffalo,
a lion or leopard, yeah, and whatever the case may be,
and they put it on his wall.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
That's what he's going for.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
He a big game hunter and normally, hey, when he
says his target on something.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
When he says his sight on something, I like it,
you don't miss I like it, you don't miss It's
it's very.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Unfortunate, and you see what's happened, or it's a war
of platricia. That's when it comes down to injury. You
see Steph get injured, Donovan Mitchell got nicked, Jay, Jason Tatum,
it's out.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Ain't nobody feeling sorry for you?
Speaker 3 (38:55):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Hey, it's unfortunate, fortunate, And sometimes when it gets down
to this, it's a war patrician on Joe. Who who
is the health is? Who can stay the health is
the longest.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
That's what it comes down to.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Actually in any sport on Nomber, you ain't even talking
on basketball, whether it be football, NHL, no baseball, especially
especially your most important players, your Steph courage, Natum's.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
You know, they give you a chance. Just having it
makes you makes your job easy. Not do that part.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
And when you mentioned you said playoff Jimminy to show up.
Even if he shows up, he go needs one more
person to come along with him.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Yeah, that's why I said it gotta be buddy, it
gotta be buttery. Ohthough I forgot about COMMENTA, he didn't
have two games, two big games back to back.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
The guy wasted.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Because you know a ju Randall an ant man, you
know that what they're gonna give you.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, so one gym came out. Cannot do with both
of them.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
So somebody buddy commingle somebody positive poses due for a game.
Brazim skid. He hadn't played. Hey, he hadn't played well.
I'm not breaking news. I'm not interrupting your normally scheduled
programming to tell you this. He hasn't played well. He's
gonna have to play better if they're going to have
a chance to win this ball game. Yeah, so they
got their work cut out for him tomorrow. I mean,
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they would love to be in a situation, but at
this point in time, even if they win Game five,
I ain't bring his stuff back.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
I'm not finna run the risk of hurting that man.
That's why, that's that's why I said they way the
white flag. It's no need. There's no need, especially being
down three one.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
There's no need to bring him back and put him
through that and making him exert that kind of energy
to even get us back in this series.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Just get healthy, get ready, to enjoy your off season.
Step take you about two weeks, two weeks a month off,
go on vacation. You and Iisha take the kids on
going vacation somewhere. Relax, don't even worry it. Check back
in when you get back in and uh at in
the first of July.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
According to ESPN Teams McMahon, the Math won't trade the
number one pick. The Math planned this select dupe forward
Cooper flag and will not entertain the possibility of trading
away to pick for a proven superstar.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Mm hm, yes, there's no need. There's no need, especially
not them. You want to piss the fans off?
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Groogle Moore?
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Do you want to piss them off more? I'm not
I'm not sure they're a superstar that you would trade
him for. But I mean, honestly, uh Jo honest is
a good one.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
But I see I will do it. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
I like that that the fact of having Kyrie coming
back healthy.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
You got a d got Cooper flag.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Let's let's let's see what they could become before we
think about going to get Giannis.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Now, just told Yanni is going to Miami. But let's
get to hear know there.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Rich Paul also says Cooper flag going number one overall
to Dallas will allow him to develop on a reasonable
timeline as a rookie.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I agree. I think the thing is.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
It would be it would be more reasonable had Kyrie
not gotten nicked.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
But if Kyrie hadn't got nicked, they wouldn't be in
this situation to select it.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
So that's not here nor there.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
But I think he might have to pick up that
a little sooner because Kyrie's probably not gonna come back
until January of twenty sixth because he's coming stuff with.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
That knee injury. So him, ad we got something.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I mean, when you're the number one pick, oh Joe,
expectations are there.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I don't care how you could say.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Okay, a year, two years, three years, but the expectations
are you're the number one pick, excuse me. And when
you're the number one pick, the expectation you're supposed to
be franchise altering, You're supposed to be generation, you're supposed
to be Damnar transcendent.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I don't know, but I'm saying right.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
I mean, when you think about it, ain't nobody say,
oh Lebron gonna get be able to develop on his
own timeline. Shack will be able to develop on his
own timeline, Kareem will be able to Magic will be.
That is not what they said. Allen ivers is gonna
be able to develop on his own timeline. Ad will
be able to develop on his own timeline. That's not
what they say it. So it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
No, I think he can play. I think he's sensational. Yeah, yeah,
I mean he's a big kid. Can shoot the ball,
can put the ball on the floor. He gave the
US team all they can handle when when they were
getting ready to gear it up for the Olympics. So
he's going against NBA talent. He's played at an elite program.
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He knows the expectations. When you play that program, you
number one overall, So nothing is gonna surprise him. Like, man,
I ain't know they expected that from me. Yeah, you
number one overall pick. And when you're knowing overall pick,
they have lofty, lofty, lofty expectations. Yeah, and uh, and
I believe he can. I believe he can reach them.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I do.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Yeah. I think he's gonna be all right. He's gonna
be all right. Shoot, he's always he's always been that
guy for a very.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Long time, and just obviously his childhood dream is making
it to the NBA being the number one overall pick.
I don't think there's any pressure on him. At the
end of the day, it's still basketball and he's been playing.
You've been doing it real well for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
So this is what you wanted. Now you got.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, you got to show why you know one overall.
It's just like in any sport, you gotta show. I
need to see why you nombre pick. I got to
see why you're the first round draft pick. I gotta
see why you won the throw up a Ward, the
Player of the Year, of the Heidstmot Trophy, whatever the
ward is, don't you We need to see it now.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Yeah, Okay, I see why you wanted to ward ball. Okay,
you got that.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
You like that?
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Okay? We good.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Cause you know the coach go, hey, what do you
think about the draft pick?
Speaker 3 (44:47):
He canna play. He's gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
I mean once he figured out right now you can
see processing it, but once he get.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
It down, yeah, yeah, yeah, he could be. He go be.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
You won't have to worry about it.
Speaker 5 (44:59):
Yeah, I mean, how many how many times can you
think you could probably count on two hands or has
it been more than two hands where a player is
going number one and it's been absolutely.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Atrocious in football or basketball basketball?
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Anthony Bennett. No, I said absolutely like Anthony Bennett. He
was out of the league in a year? Is that atrocious?
Speaker 3 (45:23):
One?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Well, goddamn is were you asking? What year was this?
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Like? What do year?
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Lebron live? Twenty thirteen? Oh, he's got to be old.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Huh, twenty thirteen. There's been a lot of guys, o Jo.
He went number one, number one. He was that good,
good and terrible. He's good enough to go to number
one and bad enough to be god in the league.
It must must have been uphill though, but had to
be some mental I don't know what it was.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Who else, Michae, Oliver Candy, Kwame, Greg greg Olden was injured?
Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, Greg, o'dneeds I remember that.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Look Kwame. I don't think Kwame was bad. He just
for whatever reason, he went to the wrong situation. He
went to a situation where Jordan wanted a vet and
Jordan like thought you he should know. And there are
things that Kwame didn't know, and there was no one
there willing to teach it right, and so he didn't get.
He didn't get like if he went somewhere now that
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had that that had a let's just say Kame had
gone to the Spurs. Yes, where they'll give guys, they'll
work with a guy and give you an opportunity to grow.
I mean sometimes you go on the team, Ojo, like
you go to the Patriots. The Patriots ain't getting nobody
no time to grow. You come into the first round pick,
just issu up and be ready to play, right, That's it.
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And so I think that was the thing with Kwame.
I think he went to the wrong place. He needed
to go somewhere where they were going to give a
give the rookie giver at first round pick or a
high draft pick an opportunity to mature, to grow. That
ain't what Jordan Jordan like, now, I ain't got that
kind of time, bro, and every and think about he
went where then he goes to Kobe, you know Kobe,
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and you know what Kobe ow he on the same
stuff Jordan on.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
Man, that's what's that's too back to back Okay, Markev's faults.
Oh no, but he bounced back though false.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Right, Yeah, oh, Joe, you do realize, like when you're
number one overall pick, they expect you to be ah,
they expect you to be an All NBA, an All Star. Right,
Oh yeah, purpose he grew up there, I mean, I
know per personally. Uh, he's from Savannah, went to Louisville,
led him to the national championship as a freshman, beat
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Duke Damn Never Well they call him never nervous. But
then he stayed hurt so much. They say out of service.
Purpose man, you know, how didn't do bad? You know
they didn't be giving you a deep day. Hey. Uh
but yeah, that it's just expectations, Oh Joe, with anything
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when you go first overall because Ojo amber one.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah, he the first, the number one. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Uh. Baseball, you look at a guy like Josh Hamilton
had talent out the yan yank I watched him in
the home run derby at at the old Yankee Stadium,
hit it out the stadium, uh huh.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
But the demons got a hold of him, Ojo.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
And you know even though he early on he got
selected number one overall from the rais, he got got
tangled up, he got cleaned, came back, hit three point
fifty one, the one the won the MVP.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
They got him again.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
O Jo.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Yeah now he you know, hey, bro, Yeah, once to
get a hold of young man.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
It's on every day, Ojo, every day thinking about Ojo.
You can be sober for ten years straight. M one time.
You have to drive by a bar a package store
every day for the rest of your life. Yeah, not
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turn around, not put the blinker on and go inside.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Every day. You can't be around it.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah, if you would, if.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
You were at that, Oh Joe, you can't. Man, you
can't go hang on the corner with your boys if
you know what they do, right. My grandfather's always tell me,
I'm my brother boys. Association bringing on some association, brings
on assimilation. You hang around people long enough that doing
stuff you would start to do it. Also, it's hard
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to run in that circle. It's hard to run in
that circle where people are doing things that you know
aren't right, and then you just walk because eventually, like, man,
this is just one time and that's the time to
get you. It's just that one time that you decide.
So birds of a feather do flock together, ping with
(49:58):
the pigeons, don't hang that's where not here. So you
know a lot of you know you with your bought man. Man,
I've been knowing bad, being old, your bad.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
We grew up in the sand box. I've been knowing
O your man, hold you on one six, one sixty.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Third and fielth damn man, I thought I throw a
grandpa growing up, my grandma throw the change together. So
as that tie man man, oh yo, cool man, own
your good people. Yeah, that's why associated with someone long enough.
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Mm that association brings on assimilation.
Speaker 5 (50:34):
No, I'm just I'm just thinking and just just hearing
examples just throughout life in general.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
You know, just I'm not even speaking hypotheticals.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
I'm just saying, well, you see certain people hanging with
certain individuals and them knowing.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Well, that ain't your company.
Speaker 5 (50:48):
That's not the kind of company you need to be
keeping because you know that you don't even rock like that.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
So why are you even associated with that? But oh,
oh Jo, I don't want to turn my back on you,
Oh you. I've been knowing you, man, y'all be knowing
you all my life. Oh Joe, we went to church together.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
I still go. You don't go no more, but I
still go. Andy Andy.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
So that's that's the that's the problem that people were
what are you hear, oh Joe, Yeah, he started hanging
with that wrong that crowd.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
Yeah yeah mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Ed got it called up in some some foolishness, some
bull dybe that it shouldn't have been in. And all
it takes is one oh ja, All it takes is
one time, one time.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
That's how it always happened.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
That's it because oh your you know, as an athlete,
we don't think anything's gonna happen to us. We think
we're invincible. We see stuff that happened out there in
the real world and say, ain't no way it.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Can never happen to me. I'm proof. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
An anonymous player on The Nugget says Russell Westbrook is immature,
Herbal Ramona Shelburne. According according to Ramona's article, she reported
minutes after the Nuggets lost Game two in the first
round series against the Clippers, Edelman had a problem. While
he had been at postgame lecture and there had been
a heated discussion between Westbrook and Gordon in the locker room.
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Multiple sources told ESPN Gordon that challenged Westbrook about his
attitude outside the locker room. One player laid why Gordon
might have done so. He's so immature, he said of Westbrook. First,
Russ's wife, Nina came to the defense on ig Why
the Nuggets title hopes might hand you on a volatile
player in the NBA. You should be a shamed of
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volatle You should be a shamed for so many reasons.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
I'll let you decipher them. Jay Williams doesn't one of
his excuses for NICOLEA. Jokic. That's h.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Who said, oh this what she wrote at Ramona Shevard
espn dirty work with Ramona? How could you share and
spread so many lives randomly for no reason and with
such conviction. You're using his name for clickbait during the playoffs,
which is ridiculous. Trust me, I know the facts about
every about literally everything. Normally, I let you guys tell
(53:04):
your silly lies in peace. Enough for already, stop with
the lies.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Go Nuggets. Hey, all right? You know players do get
into it all the time. You know that.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
I'm not sure why.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
Why is this even? Why is this even news? Okay,
that's a disagreement. Okay, I don't.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (53:25):
I don't like the way you act sometimes that's just
that's line.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
That's the sort for people that have never.
Speaker 5 (53:32):
Been a part of a locker room or any type
of organized activity.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
This happens all the goddamn time.
Speaker 5 (53:37):
Yeahs uh, hell Ship, I'm sure with some time.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
Carson didn't like some of the stuff I did. I'm
sure Coach Lewis didn't like some of the stuff I did.
What did they tell me? Hey, well, I don't like that,
but I needed to chill a little bit.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
Ship, big Willy, Big Willy told me stop talking to
the d He was alignement and TV timeouts.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
You don't have to deal with them a big Really,
she could be that big with you. I'm just talking, Ship.
He said, Yeah, you're talking trash, but we got a
block them.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Yeah, you're talking to trash the people you ain't got
a block.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
So I mean, okay, okay, I get it. There was
something that I mean, it happens. You have to have
you know, little riff rafts and okay, they got into it.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
So what mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
Yeah, I've been very fortunate to be in locker rooms
with stuff didn't get out. I think now, you know,
I don't know if people pill a talk.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Everybody chatty patty boy. Yeah, they can't wait.
Speaker 5 (54:46):
And it's a certain player that knows all the goddamn reporters,
and they always want to leave some stuff.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
Oh, it always comes from about somebody inside that inside
the house.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yeah, because I was Look, that's one thing.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
How was work? It was work.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
I don't I mean what we practiced, we met, we practiced, Oh,
such and such, such and such, call and says I say,
I don't know nothing about that, And I don't go
no further. I know somebody called you and said this,
But don't you call somebody else and say that, right,
because I don't want that is coming up. Because because
at the end of the day, you are a representation
of me. Keep your mind closed. What somebody else got
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going on that ain't got ished to do with you. You
worry about this house, all that other stuff that's going
on out there that ain't got nothing to do with you.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Well, did you?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
I don't know about nothing. It ain't my business to know.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
It's my business to know Shannon's business and what goes
on here. What you're doing, that's my business. All that
other stuff, what they're doing. I let them worry about
that because I can't control their house. I ain't in
the house, so I don't know what you're talking about.
What he said, Well, she, I don't see that. That's
the problem right there, he said, And now you repeating it.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
I don't get down like that.
Speaker 1 (56:05):
I don't want to hear nothing about what's going on
in somebody else house if it's not football related.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
Mm hmm. I ain't got any to do with A. Yeah, No,
I'm a.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
I'm like, hey, bro, all I'm saying, I ain't gonna
go a. You need you need to toe your screws
down a little bit. You're a little loose out here. Man, Sharp,
what you mean?
Speaker 3 (56:25):
What you mean? Hey, Sharp? Don't go out? But if
Sharp know, how did he know? Okay?
Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah, So I'm just gonna okay, okay, you're right, you're right,
you're right, you're right. Okay, that's all I'm saying because
I'm telling you, you know, d I don't know how
you do it wherever you were.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
But Mike can't gonna play that. Michael get rid of ass, yeah, quick, quick, quick.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
Quick.
Speaker 1 (56:59):
So anything that's gonna that's gonna take your focus away
from from from from winning ball games, right, not being attentive.
You know, look here, that's what they ate. You came
to work it. Hey, when you went to dub Valley,
Bronco Parkway, Ark, you went to work all that, all that,
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all that other stuff. And because I see, I try
to I try to warn them because we had to see.
We wanted the first teams that had cameras throughout the
whole building. Yeah, in meeting rooms, big meeting rooms.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
Training.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
I said, y'all do no, y'all run out of here,
y'all get on the phone. Y'all run out of here,
and you get on your cell phone. Man, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
Hey, you know what I'm saying. Hey, hey, listen, I'm laying.
I'm laying. I'm laughing because I'm guilty. Boy.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
Hey, hey, you have the ball. The ball people like, okay, yeah,
that's what I grab. Yes, so nod uh.
Speaker 3 (58:08):
Hey anyway, hey are you boy? You brought back some memories?
Boy you oh Joe, Yeah for that time, yes, huh, well,
I didn't have to be.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
I wasn't on special teams.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
But on Friday, so Friday they're like hey and and uh,
special teams. Coach would always say, Hey, we're gonna do
hands teams, So don't worry about it. We'll go over it.
Just be out there on field. Blah blah blah. So
I didn't really have to get to meetings till you know,
nine o'clock. But anyway, okay, we got a break. So
you know, we got the big meeting, Mike, we got
the big thing, and then we're gonna break up in
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the defense. Gon go in the area, offense stays here.
And then after the offense we're gonna be Okay, we
got a ten minute brea because we're gonna break up
an individual. We got the tight ends, the running back
to wide receivers.
Speaker 7 (59:00):
Man, sharp, Man, you ain't man, you ain't never on
the phone, man, you would what I mean?
Speaker 3 (59:08):
Damn?
Speaker 1 (59:11):
I said, let me ask you a question. Where do
you think my girl think I'm at? Mm hm, where
do you think I think she's at? Because see y'all
calling to check up? If I got to do that,
I got to get me a new girl.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (59:35):
I can't call him check up on you. You don't
call him check up on As a matter of fact,
my phone was off. Now if something like that, Look,
my phone was off. My nephew passed. They called her.
My sister called the broncos my phone was off. They said,
shouting up such and such, Mike, need to see you.
(59:55):
Damn became when I said, Yo, what's up? Like say, uh,
your nephew passed. Oh, say, your sister says she's been
trying to get in touch with you. I said, okay,
I call her.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Called her.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
She says, shouting my baby gone. It's like, all right,
I'll be there. Well, I said, Mike, I gotta go.
Say all right, just letting me know when you're coming back.
I went home, took care of my sister, got that situated. Yeah,
I came back with like a Saturday. I got back back.
(01:00:30):
Think that Wednesday. Right, I'm all business, bro. When I'm
at work. I'm at work. I ain't talking to nobody
on the phone. I ain't doing all that stuff. I
do all that study and now I'll talk. You know,
because it was two hours different in time, So I'm
going to work. I might call my sister or once
I got done with work before it got too late,
because you know it's already, you know, seven o'clock, my
(01:00:52):
grandma going to bed. If I wanted to talk to
my grandy, I was like, hey, lib it put Greanty
on the phone right quick. But other than that, no,
I ain't about that, all that talking and and right
I'm at work.
Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
O yo, what am I doing at work? Yeah? Wait, boy,
you you better than me. Boy, we got two different approaches.
Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
But hey, listen when we hit when we leave that
big team meeting, and we got that like that ten
minute break before we go to to the office of meeting. Yeah,
I'm on that phone, boy, I I mean, I'm I'm
I'm being honest.
Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Job.
Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
Hey, I'm scrolling Twitter. I'm scrolling you know, cause this this,
this toward towards the end. I got twittered by that
by that time, two thousand down in the two thousand
and nine ten. Man, I'm all on that. Man, I'm
having a good time, you know, sending my tweets out
and boom, I'm going to a meeting.
Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Now.
Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
I was taking my phone with me to the meetings,
but once I hit that meeting room, well, I'm strictly business.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Yeah yeah, I never took I never took a phone
in the meeting.
Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Yeah, hey, boy, when when we got that break.
Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
Oh you know how black folks by when we get
a break, well we break Oh yeah, hey.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I ain't.
Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
I ain't play boy. You give me a break.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
I'm going to Joan, I'm on somebody. That's what I'm
going to do.
Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Okay, okay, game, that what we're going to do.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Then Austar Revers.
Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Austin Rivers said, cut to bes and name your source
when speaking on another player's character.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Let's take a listen to what he had to say
with Joe.
Speaker 8 (01:02:13):
Hey, listen, man, y'all kill me with this anonymous seriously, no,
no more of that. I don't want any more people
talking about, uh they heard such and such about a player, uh,
due to an anonymous source, or I heard uh some
you know this guy wants out, or he wants to
be traded, he wants to be signed here, he's unhappy,
(01:02:34):
or I heard that guy's not you know, a pleasure
to work around, says an anonymous source.
Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Another of the anonymous.
Speaker 8 (01:02:39):
If you're gonna speak on a player's character, if y'all
gonna come out here and talk about a player's personal
you know, life and certain things about him, either say
it with your chest and say that you feel this way,
or if.
Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
You're gonna quote somebody else, say their damn name. I'm
tired of the anonymous.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
That's never gonna happen because if you did that, you
would never get any information.
Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
Well how about how about not having to get information
and the people that have something to say actually come
out and say it. If you don't like something, just
come out and say it. If you if you it's
it's It's pretty simple, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
I think. I think it's like Keyboard Warriors.
Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
You know, people on Twitter talking trash and you know,
you know you can't get to them, so they say
whatever they want to because they.
Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Know it's the Internet.
Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
I think you know from media or analysts or punnits
that have issued with players or players having an issue
with with analysts or players having a big issue with players.
I think we need to be like I told young,
we need to start just telling the truth.
Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Just being honest, just being upfront.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
One of the biggest I think.
Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
I think it would make the world a better place.
Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Do you know one of the biggest stories in American
history with an anonymous source? Have you ever heard of Watergate?
Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Watergate? Watergate Gate?
Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
You know that started with anonymous source, right? Can you
imagine had that anonymous source hadn't stepped up what would
have happened. Can you imagine can you possibly fable mm hmm,
what the CIA was doing with those taps to doctor King?
Can you imagine? Yeah, I ran contract? I mean, did
that ring a bell anything? M Did you realize if
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it not were for whistleblowers and anonymous sores, you would
have never known nicotine was addictive and they was putting
it in your tobacco and cigarettes and chewing tobacco for
the longest time if it wasn't from an anonymous source.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
And the Tuskegee study.
Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
So be careful when you tell people to shut up, because, oh,
can you imagine if people never said a word, what
kind of predictably we would be in?
Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Are we sure? I get it? I get it, you
speaking this? I get it? But are you sure that's
what you want? Yeah? I mean they listen.
Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
They would never be quiet anyway, because you know, people
can't hold water on people can people can't hold water.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
It just can't. I think in certain situations they shouldn't. Look.
Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Look, I get it, but this has been going They
make it seem like it's like an anonymous source just
happened in the last five years, right, do they understand
first of all. It used to be a situation where
the reporters would never tell what the player was doing
and they saw.
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
It used to be you know what, I saw that, hey,
and you see me. I see you.
Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
Keep it moving.
Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
And it's not like that anymore. Oh, Joe, it's not
because everybody see the thing is now it's not about
being right.
Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
It's about being first.
Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
I gotta be first to get this story. Oh it's competition, Yeah,
just in case I am right.
Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Do you understand how much money these networks play for
these insiders. Yeah, that's why they can't turn their phone off.
Even Chef are doing an interview, poon going up there.
I gotta take this call and gotta step away. See
people see you mad at the monomous you You mad
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at the person that's delivering the information.
Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
You not mad at the person that told y'all.
Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Think how many times the battle Chef have been wrong
When you say a trade is gonna happen, a coach
is about to be fired, or somebody's about to do this.
Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
You're right.
Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
We need we need basketball reporters.
Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
And they talk about a Lebron James gonna gonna leave
Cleveland and Lebron James gonna leave Miami, and Lebron James
gonna leave Cleveland, and Kevin Durant's leaving you leaving the
Oka C.
Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Yeah, hey, how many time to think about it? Everything
I've said? How many times I've been wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
At this point in time? For me?
Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Oh, tr I just don't say anything.
Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Yeah, I just I just I just say it and
just walk away because if I face something, they gonna know.
Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
I let them discredit me.
Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Well, you don't know, you're not in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
People might say I talk a lot, but they don't
say I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 8 (01:07:22):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
But that's not my job. My job is not to
break news. I don't get paid for that. I don't
get paid. I'm not an insider. I don't get paid
for that. But I do like to get information. So
when I go on air and I talk about something,
or I come over here and talk about something, I
feel very very confident that people are not gonna recruit
repute what I say.
Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
Hey, it pays, it pays to know it, It pays
to know the right people. It does never never never burn,
no bridges off. You never know your knee.
Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
I would never give. I would never give.
Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
I don't give that if they got me in a quarterlaw,
I ain't telling it right that person, that person gave
me that information.
Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
It's going to my grave.
Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
A on the a off the record, off the record,
off the record, bro.
Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Put it in your words, got you.
Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Done? Deal?
Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
But the anonymous sources are not going to go away. No,
it never will.
Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Because people want to Joe, what people want to know? Yeah,
people want to know. Man, I wonder what Yan is
gonna do now the Yannis watches on. Who's gonna make
a deal. Who's interested in Yannis? Where does want to go?
That might be the case I told you, But the
(01:08:58):
people people gonna want note and not when he's not. Oh, Joe,
I don't want to know. Hell, I don't want to
know what old sinners to drop it tomorrow. No, I
need some previews. I need somebody talking about it, like
a week of months of the dance. And let me
get a little trailer too. Yes, that's how it works.
But I get looked. I get it often that you
(01:09:23):
know they're talking about russ look for me. I don't
think this. This is not the first time that people
have have said stuff about Russ. Russe is used to
it now and his wife Nina has every right to
defend her husband.
Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
Way. The funny thing about Russ, but Rush don't give
to to you know what?
Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Shouldn't you don't care? Should you respond to you when
you get ready? Though? Let you he don't give to
you know what?
Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Yeah, exactly, So, Look, I mean that's not like earth
shadowing news. Look, Russ has a you know, his personalities,
you know, sometimes comes off as a bracst. But that
doesn't take away from the fact he's one of the
seventy five greatest players that woul play in the NBA. Y'all,
everybody want everybody to get along every they're different. I mean,
(01:10:10):
people have different personalities, and when you bring I don't care.
Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Hell, you don't even get along with everybody don't get
along with their own family.
Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
You think I'm gonna get along with somebody that that
I don't know that from a different background, different state,
different social and economics or or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
That's just the way it is, Oyo. That's why so
hard to.
Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Win, because no matter what Ojo Baptist Presbyterian Catholic of
Jehovah Witness, Muslim, whatever the case, Judaism, whatever the case
may be.
Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Right, we got a common goal.
Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
So I got to take all these different religions, all
these socio economic backgrounds.
Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
I gotta take all these different personalities.
Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
I got to take all these you know, orientations or
whatever the case may be, and I gotta have one
common goal.
Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
Yeah one. It ain't easy.
Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Now, because think about you, get your family, you got
a family of five, get everybody to agree to what
y'all want to eat tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Man, good luck with that.
Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
And you think you about to get fifty three players,
or you about to get fifteen players or your baseball
twenty nine players to agree and everybody get along.
Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
No, it ain't gonna happen, not even realistic.
Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Common goal. All I want you want to win. That's
all I care about. All that other stuff about yo,
I don't care about nothing. I don't care about none
of that until it starts to impact winning.
Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Yeah, bro, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
That's your life. You live it, you good within it.
If you like it, I love it. All I want
to do is all I want to know is that
you want to win.
Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (01:11:51):
The volume
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