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June 26, 2025 32 mins

TJ Houshmandzadeh & James Harrison react to Jim Jones challenging Shannon Sharpe to a workout, George Pickens cancels his youth camp in Pittsburgh, and much more!

01:47 - Introduction
04:00 - Working Out
11:55 - Jim Jones challenges Shannon to workout competition
16:47 - Deebo’s bearded dragon Mango
23:44 - TJ’s Deebo story
27:25 - George Pickens

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Man. Welcome to night Cap. This is day two of
Takeover Week.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
TJ was outa that's my.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Dog, James Harrison goes by debo. So, y'all, now before
we get started, y'all make sure y'all like, y'all hit
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a nice little show for you. Playing NBA Draft going on.

(00:46):
We'll get into a little James, you're a big basketball fan.
You watch a little bit. I can't say I'm a
big basketball fan. You know, I usually start watching, you know,
around the finals, you know, catch some stuff here and there,
but I can't.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
You're probably throwing about you shooting over a backward jumper?
Is with now jumpers? With now all your jumpers?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah okay, So so as y'all see, did he just
finished his third workout of the day. He in the
tank top, so he wanted to show off all these
muscles he got.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Chad. When Chad saw you what was coming on?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
He texted me and say, typical James Harrison, he gonna
come on the show when I ain't on.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
He's really scared. Start playing. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
That's what he didn't give me on the show anytime, anytime,
Like all they got to do is call. Yeah, he said,
you're avoiding. He was like, oh typical. He wanted to
come on the show when I ain't on. Man, listen,
ain't nothing about Chad words something to me? Period. Did

(01:52):
you see the video with Shannon and Jim Jones going
at it about working out?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean I didn't catch it. I didn't so that
that's okay. That's okay.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
So what we're gonna do is, hopefully Shannon, hopefully if
he agree to this, this is what we're gonna do,
we gonna sub him out. We just gonna let you
go ahead and uh put yourself in. So Jim Jones
James Harrison about to be subbed in for Shannon work
out at your place, his place, y'all go ahead and
posted it.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
You'll do that. I'll work out with anybody, man. I mean,
it's a workout. You know, it's a challenge. It's something
that you know, I love doing. Yeah, I don't have
no problem with that answer this where did how long
you been retiring? Now?

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Man, like seven years and it's been that long. Yeah,
two thousand and I'm saying it's been that long if
I'm longer than you. I thought, Okay, where did this
love for working out? Bro? Where did this come from?
Like you've always been this way? Uh?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Nah, not really. I can't say that I was that way.
Like high school, I wasn't that way. I really didn't
get that way until I probably got into a college.
I started, you know, working out more because you know,
I realized the better to shake your hand, the stronger
you get, the faster you get, the better to be
able to go out there and play. So my goal

(03:17):
was never to play NFL football. It was just an
opportunity for me to play more football because I love
to play the game. I didn't love the things that
came along with it, But over time I realized that
the things that come along with it are the things
that it's going to allow you to be able to
play the game longer. And you know, from that it
became you know, high school was like, yo, we want

(03:39):
you to go to college.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Play college.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm like, you know, all right, I get to go
to college to play football. You know, it wasn't the
educational part, which it should have been. But and then
after you know I got through my college career was yo,
you got opportunity now to actually, you know, playing playing
the pros. And I'm like, oh cool, And you know
I'll never forget it, dude, I'm made to squad, got

(04:01):
cut you know, picked me up again, cut me again,
went to NFL Europe, came back Baltimore, cut me and
and you know, I'm just sitting around there waiting and
h Clark Hagen's you know, he breaks his hand and
I get picked up from there, and you know, basically
the rest is history. But the thing that really changed
my approach to everything, especially like you know how I

(04:23):
took care of my body, you know, how I changed
my eating and everything else is a guy ended up
showing me his check in two thousand.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Or five.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Dude, Yeah, how much was it? It was more than
I made in the year.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
They did the same. I promised you my rookie year.
What was your league minimum? Your rookie in twenty five,
So your rookie year musn't been in two thousand and two,
two thousand and three of those, right, Yeah, okay, so
my rookie year league minimum was too old.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Nine And I'll never forget somebody showed me they check
and we get paid.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Every Monday. Somebody showed me they check and the check
was like five hundred and some thousands. Oh he had
a sign up moments in there too. He just didn't
tell you that.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Nah, he didn't back then cut down. Now, now let
me say this.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
It was before they took the taxes out, so he
probably was bringing he's probably bringing home about three.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
But when I said this, dude is making more in
one week than I'm making the whole season. That is motivation.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
When you see that, you like, whoa So like every Monday, yeah,
I saw a shut man. He showed me a shut
and this check was more than I made all year,
you know, in those two weeks. And I was like,
you know what, man, I got to stop doing everything,
or at least cut down on what I was doing
at that point in time, and start doing things necessary

(05:58):
to take care of my body. So, you know, I
started adding you know, different you know, uh, massage therapists,
different therapies period into my regiment. And each year, you know,
you end up finding somebody new and you're like, oh
this works better. And you find somebody else knew and
you're like, oh this massage is better. So you can't
go to massage everything no more and be like giving
me a good mistake. You can't just can't do it.

(06:20):
So now everybody I use, you know, I fly in
and I'm like, you know what, I'm going to cut out.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
The first thing I did was I'm like, all right,
I'm going to cut out like drinking like during the week.
So I did that, and then the next was like, okay,
I'm going to cut out drinking, you know on the Sundays.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
You know, are you talking about drinking alcohol? Yeah, yeahthing
like that. Yeah, oh dude, I started. The first thing
I did was cut drinking, and well, the first thing
I did was changed before that. How how often would
you drink during the week? How often? Man?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
You got to realize my old g's my old G was,
you know, Joey Porter. So you know what I'm saying that,
and like, you know, it was, it was, it was
a little it was a little different back then.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
So you get it in.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, my boy peasy, he would get it in.
But also on that note, you know he doesn't stop
drinking all together, too, so you know that's something that's something.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
That he's done, you know, after his career was over.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
It.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
But to go back, you know to what we were
talking about.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
You know, I started eating right, I stopped going you know,
I was going out to eat, you know, two three
times a day. You know, I had somebody coming in
and they were cooking, you know, making my meals for me.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
So I was eating clean.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
After that, I started doing like, you know, vitamins, you know,
trying to get I got my blood work done to
see you know what, I was actulutely long and deficient,
and so I wasn't taking unnecessary vitamins and just you know,
pissing out what I what I mean, or taking things
out I didn't need at all.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
And you know you still do that. I still do that. Yeah,
I got I got my vitamin pacts that I take
two to three times a day. I want to taking morning.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I'm gonna usually work out fasted so it's easier on
my stomach those pills, so I can take them, you know,
on an empty stomach, and it doesn't you know, make
the nauseous or anything. And from there, you know, I
cut out drinking during the week, and then you know,
I cut out drinking in the off season and you know,
I cut out drinking in the season period. You know,
I would drink once during our rookie you know, our

(08:24):
rookie dinner. I would drink then, and then I cut
out drinking then and I would just shoot expressos.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
So it was just a progression of whatever I could
do to you know, make my career longer, and the
thing that I was using the courses of my box,
and the better I could take care of my body,
the better in health that I was, the longer I
could play the game. Now that you retired, how many
days per week are you working out? I'm at five

(08:53):
days a week now. I take two days off in
some way shape or for him. I used to do six.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
I'm just getting older, man, you know, I'm forty seven
years old, man, and I just can't. I can't keep
up with it.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
And I'm not actually doing the same amount of you know,
bodywork and care that I was doing when I was playing.
You know, I had some sort of therapy, you know,
every day, except for I think it might've been like
a Friday, I had, you know, something that wasn't you know, therapy,
but like you know, I saw I had my chiropractor

(09:27):
come in twice a week. I had my natural pathic
come in twice a week. I had my acpunctures come
in twice a week. I have my trainer come in,
you know, once a week. I had a lady that
did coming on me. I had her come in once
a week. And I had another guy that came in
that was like a massage chiropractor combination that that came
in once a week.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
So to keep up with that.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
You know, at that time you're talking, you know, three
three hundred thousand dollars or more, and you know right now,
I'm not doing what's necessary you know, to actually need
that sort of therapy. But I still see, you know,
I may see the chiropractical you know once a month,
you know, every other month or something like that. I
still see my accurate puncturists once a week. I still

(10:12):
do things with my natural path you know, anywhere from
once or twice you know a month, something like that.
And you know, I'm just doing what's necessary so I
can continue to you know, you know, try and feel better.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
And not well.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
If Jim Jones is listening to this, I don't even
know if he gonna want you to, uh, I'm not
trying to go.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Out there to destroy nobody, to do nothing.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
It's basically like a workout from what I take, but
it's a workout competition like pull ups push ups. He
ain't he ain't trying to get into the Oh I'm
stronger than you. It's a let's see who can knock
these pull ups out. Let's he can do these push
ups type of thing he should be able to do.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
Did you work out today?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Let me heal and all that shit.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Weekends of worrior sense these pull us with resistant dands.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
B can you either lift your own body weight? We
go on with for a bunch of weights. We can't
you lift your own body weight? Big fella.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
The world wants to know when you want to get
this in the gym. Huh, that's what the world wants
to know. Please tell me that.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Because we really do this.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Remember this weekend work No, they see this in the
heat the water for an hour. That he dropping me
off in the desert in case they got to put
me with the Marines on a special mission.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
You ready for that happens? Let me know any challenges?
H h oh he really doing Okay, I see mh
like that? No more?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Man?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, I like you.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
So you that's the type of workout here talking about, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
they're gonna put that together. They're gonna have to fail that.
And let's see. I mean you're working out Fridays a week.
I don't know how often he working out. I want
to get in that, but I'm a probably I embarrassing
my embarrassed myself. You gotta start somewhere, competition with nobody

(12:52):
but yourself, man, like Friday, Let you know, catch I
can lift more than you on storting a good job
for you. Probably let me get embarrassed. I'm gonna compete now,
that's my thing. I compete it in the game so
long later to be honest, and I got I got
two kids, you know, I got a fifteen and seventeen
year old son, and you know, everything to them is

(13:13):
a competition. And for me right now, man, I did
that for sixteen years, and you know I did it
at the level that you know they're they're trying to
aspire to, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
and I got to leave, you know the game, you
know when I wanted to. So I don't like my
competitive edge of actually having to like physically dominate somebody.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's just it's just no longer there now if you
pissed me off or nothing. Yeah, we're gonna get into that,
pissing you up. I can't wait to tell this story.
You probably don't even remember this, but I've remember it.
We're gonna get We're gonna get into that as soon
as I get to bro. Anybody are following you on Instagram? Hm,

(14:00):
he has this bearded dragon and I and if you
go through a disaground page, like I just thought he
was messing around like a little orange orange he looking
up bearded dragon. He calling Mango because I guess it's
Bengos girl. Okay she Yeah, And.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
The fascination of it, like it's a wild animal. You
really getting mango with Bath? You talking to Mango and
it's down there like she's listening like Mangos making crazy, Mango.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Start making crazy a little bit, right, Damn, it's not
it's not coming off that easy.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's coming off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is
all right, let's talk, let me get it. Come on,
almost got it?

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Come on, Well it's so much more so where did
this come from?

Speaker 5 (15:32):
Like the.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Taking care of a bearded dragon. That's the first question,
number two. How many times she did you? She has
never bitten me? She is never She has never bitten me.
She's puffed the beard up at me. It's not even
my dragon, man that the lizard has. You haven't been
bitten one time? Not for her?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
No, now looks wow, I have.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Not been bitten by her. She's puffed her beard up,
you know. But she hasn't bit me. And it's not
my dragon. It's actually my son's dragon, James. It's my
oldest And somehow it turned it to mind because he
don't care for her no more. So you like, I'm
gonna take care of it. And I'm like, I'm gonna
give her away. And I'm like, dude, I'm not about
to give her away, Like what if they don't take
care of her?

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Like I do?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
You know what I'm saying, Like I can't give her away,
So you know, I gotta I got a dragon on
my own.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
His name was ron Dale. Uh wait, wait, wait, wait
y'all all, Rondale listen to me. Let me tell you
how you come up with the name Randale bro for
a beer and dragon.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
His name was ron Dale Quindilius dussel Berry Harrison, right,
And when I got him he was cool, but a
little while later he started getting aggressively. So he would
do the puff and the beer, so I'm like, I
thought he was playing, and then he jumped at me.
I'm like, oh, he's trying to bite me. So I
put on the glove and I'm like, I'm gonna see
if he go bite me.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Dude, he bit me.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
He bit well, he bit the glove. So I'm doing
everything to try and figure out what's going on. So,
you know, I'm calling it like yo, he's like try this,
try that. I'm you know, I'm trying everything. I'm like,
he ain't. It ain't working, right, gotta go, Rodell, gotta go.
I'm like, Rondell, gotta go because I don't want to
hurt him. You know, I don't know why I got
such a soft spot for animals. I man, I could

(17:19):
I could break somebody's neck and keep it moving, but
these damn animals.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Angler So I ended up getting me back, getting it
to the guy that I got him from, because I
know he's going to take care of him and all that.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Right, man, he sends me the video.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Rondelle was letting me Patty pick him up all that,
so Rondell I couldn't find out he was a racist.
Oh so the person got it from he wasn't black,
and then I gave him that and he was acting white.
So I came to the conclusion that Hydell was racist.

(17:56):
I had a dog like that once. You know what
I'm saying. His name was brit He was little plug
picking these mixed right, And I didn't know Brike was
racist until I started bringing white friends over and he
would he would try and bite him when they would
reached down to Petty. So I tell my friends, I'm like, listen,
you go to my house. Man, that's a little plug
picking these dog.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
You know he cute.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
He a little cute dog. You go go on a petty,
I said, But whatever you do, he's gonna walk up
to you. Don't reach down to Petty. All he's doing
is trying to get your hand close enough so he
could bite you. Because he's not gonna jump up to
bite you. He just wants you to put your hand
down there so he could bite you. And you know
how white people is, man, they want to.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Old love on the dog. Oh, such a cute dog.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't
do it. Don't do it.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
They every time go to reach down there and he
try and bite the dog shit out of him. I'm like, dude, listen,
my dog, they dog. I'm like, listen, I think my
dog racist. Like he soon soon as somebody trying to
reach down there, and it said white, hey he go,
he go after it.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
I didn't know that. I mean, I found that out later.
But you know, I don't know if animal racist, but.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Joe animals at least you believe Listen, he let me
petty and pick him up. All that ship Brandale was.
He was tripping like he two of you up to
the cage and opened it. He puffed up started.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
You know what it was.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
He ain't like that. You ain't even Rondelle, That's what
it was. He ain't like his name. He ain't like
that name you gave my other son. He got. He
got a banana striped uh no, a banana striped ball python,
which is now mine again. And he.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Is sort of well, he's nice. He's just it's just
a ball python. They ball up, they ball up into
a ball. But that now has become mine too, So
I'm taking care of that, feeding in all the other stuff.
And I had to I had to up his intake
of what he was eating because for a while he
wouldn't eat nothing, like I tried to feed him frozen,

(19:59):
you know, all this other stuff. And I finally got
you know, I had to go to live, you know.
And once I went to live, you know, after three months,
he finally you know, started eating. And now he done
got so big though, to where just just eating like
three or four at a time. So I'm like, you
know what, I gotta move to like a you know,
a rat or something, you know, because I'm going to

(20:20):
the store, you know, like every two weeks getting three
four mice. So I ended up happening to getting his
first rat. I ain't gonna lie, dude, it was. It
was a fight, you know, and he scratched. He scratched
my dude up real good. But you know, he made
it through it and he got it down. But that's
another one that's it done became my animal. Now, well

(20:45):
they they lucky, they lucky that you the allner, you
the friend taking care of him because giving him a bath,
Mango relaxed, mango. I ain't doing none of that. So
they look and now we're gonna get into this football.
I gotta tell this story. I know if you remember this,
he played with the Steelers, as y'all know, I was
playing with the Bengles, be playing twice a year. We

(21:07):
is playing, y'all, you probably not remember this. He used
to just walk around with his helmet on, obviously, and
he would just look at everybody, just real crazy. Didn't
say anything, didn't smile at you. And so one day
he was I don't look. He was talking shit to
was during the time out was playing, and I just

(21:27):
walked by him. I said, fuck you always looking like
you tough nigga. You ain't tough, That's what I said
to him. He didn't say no word to me. He
just looked at me real crazy. And so then I said, oh,
you think you scared me? Huh, Ain't nobody scared of you, boy?
And he bruh when I say, you looked at me
so crazy. So then I go back to the huddle.

(21:49):
Willie Anderson like we about to get the plague going here?
Will you leave him alone? You ain't gotta blocking, So
I catch you. I catch a little out loud and
you spared me in my back, and you're gonna look
at me, he said, said another motherfucking word to me.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Punk. I was like, what this doing? It?

Speaker 5 (22:10):
You?

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Just the rest of the game, every time I looked
at you, you was just looking at me like when
I see you. I'm so Then when I met you
off the field, I'm like, oh, buddy, coolest hair did
it on that hill?

Speaker 3 (22:25):
For sure? This look that you.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I think everybody across the league was like bru James
Harrison like for real killer, like in real life, for real?

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, I get that. I ain't gonna lie.
I get that all the time. Like guys that are
on my teammates they end up, you know, getting to
know me and all that.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
But like on the field, in between those lines, dude,
my dad told me when I was ten, he was
like the coach had told him he didn't feel like
I was practicing hard or whatever, and I wasn't, you know,
I was.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I wasn't going hard. And my dad told me then
he was like, you know, when you step on this field,
you ain't got no friends. He said, there's practice or
a game you go out there and you're trying to
tear whoever's head office in front of it. So from
that point then when I got on the field, I
don't care, you know, if it was practice or a game.

(23:12):
I'm trying to do everything I can and I probably
destroy you. I don't want you to finish that game.
I don't want you to be injured. Like you know
we we we we got that we Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
I just every game.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, you can play next week. I just don't want
you to finish this week. I want you to know
you was in a football game. Well, so I guarantee though,
when you would meet people that you played against, you
got the same stories.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
And then they meet you.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
One dude was like, dude, you broke my nose. I'm like, dude,
it was a lineman from something. He's like, he did
it twice, dude. He was like, I'm like, I don't.
I don't recall that. How you don't recall him? Like,
because I don't like you say something to me. I'm
I'm just it up. I'm sitting there and running it
through my head the whole time, just to beat me

(24:03):
up more and more. And when I get that chairs
to hit you, I ain't trying to lord or bloom. Yeah,
and he was doing it and the facial expressions, the
body language made it even worse.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Now, let's talk about George Pickins. You know what's going
on with that?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, I heard something about Okay, so I'm gonna kind
of give you the backstory. Obviously, George Pickins gets drafted
to the Steelers. Then they just traded him about a
month and a half from though Dallas Cowboys. So George
Pickens is supposed to do a camp in Pittsburgh. So
he was traded May seven, so just about six weeks ago,

(24:47):
he gets traded to Dallas. But he still commits I'm
still gonna do the camp. That's what he's telling the
people that's organizing and running the football camp. I'm gonna
still cut back to Pittsburgh and do the camp. Well,
all the kids registered, George said, Nah, I ain't coming back.
I'm not doing the camp. I don't care what y'all do.
I'm not doing the camp. So Pat Farr moved the

(25:10):
tight end. He said, you know what, I'll step in
and I'll do the camp for George. What do you
think George should have done? And what would you have done.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
For me.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
If I get my word, my word is my word,
and I'm gonna go through with it. It doesn't matter
how I feel afterwards. Once I get that word, I'm
going to do it. If that was something that he really,
you know, just didn't want to do, I think, you know,
he should have made that decision initially to be like,
you know what, I don't want to do it because

(25:49):
I done got traded or whatever it may be. And
then again, you know you're talking about representatives. I don't
know if this is something they directly heard from him.
So you got a lot of people that speak for you,
especially when you know you're in that position, you got
people that are like, no, you you know, he's still
going to do it, and sometimes they're hoping that they

(26:09):
can convince you to actually, you know, still do it.
So was that something where his team was like, yo,
he's still going to do it. And it may have
been something that as soon as he got traded, he
was like, you know, I'm not going to do that,
and maybe over time they were trying to talk him
into it and they just couldn't get him to do it.
So unless that was the direct words from him, you know,

(26:33):
it's kind of six and one a half.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Dozen in the other. Although that is who represented. They
do speak for you.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Sometimes they try and speak in your best interest, hoping
they can convince you to still do it. Me personally,
I feel like I'm like you, once you say you,
once you commit to something, just go ahead and do it.
Because it's a lot of kids, man like, they ain't
getting caught up in the he's with the Steelers now
with the Cowboys. They just want to see George Piketts

(27:01):
and so disappointing a lot of kids. And I'm sure
he don't care about that. But once you say you're
gonna do some whether you play for the Steelers, you
play for the Cowboys, it's a day out of your time,
one day out of your time, just go ahead and
knock it out. Matter of fact, don't surprise them and

(27:25):
continue to keep them people in, those young kids and
those families as fans because obviously they signed up for
your count because they liked you as a steer, even
to go to the Cowboys, they still gonna be a fan.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
So now he's lost fans. But all off.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
You know, George, I've been around him a little bit.
He just don't give it down. Bro, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
His representatives were like, hey, you need to do this.
He probably was like, nah, I ain't doing it. I
don't care. I ain't doing it. I don't care what
you say. I'm not doing this.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I think it's unfortunate because he's probably gonna take it
hitting his reputation. I don't think he gives it down.
But those kids, that's the part of it. They just
gonna be disappointed. Now, when you left Pittsburgh, where'd you go?

Speaker 3 (28:06):
I was Cincinnati?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I thought you did, and that's why I was. I
didn't know if it was New England, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, New England.
How was it leaving Pittsburgh going to Cincinnati?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Like?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
The difference is the dynamic. I know you couldn't wait
to play Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
That first game, but what how was it playing because
they Pittsburgh is historically a much better organization. Obviously they
won a lot more to Cincinnati, but when we played
each other, every game was always close for the most part.
What was the difference is between organizations that you felt like, Okay,

(28:45):
this is why the Steelers are winning more.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Than the Bengals. They take they take, they take better
care of the players.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
They're like to be the biggest thing that I noticed
when I got there was the food, man, Like, you're
eating You're eating the same food that's you know, the
stadium cooks. You know, that's you know, your game day
fan food.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
It's the same company that's that's making the food that's
it's brought in, you know, buffet style. You got you know,
you had sandwiches that were already made up with you know,
cheese and maonates on them, and you know all the
other stuff.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
The best thing they add was you could you know,
possibly get an omelet, you know, made for you on site.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Everything else was was pre made. It was not it
was not.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Something that you're supposed to feed to, you know, a
team or a professional team. You know, you don't go
and use you know, F one formula cars and put
in you know, not to do our tang. They use
race casts and you're feeding you know, these high performance
athletes trash and you're wondering why you know they're not
you know, giving you the put up that you want. Dude,

(29:57):
I was bringing in my own food, you know, I
was I was playing food from home, you know it.
It just got to the point like they were just
serving these things that was just loaded, you know, Greece,
and it was not very it was not very good. Man,
calm the facility.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
So we got better at that. I was just saying,
that's when it was like that when I was there.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
They right now, I will say, much much much better comparison,
Like when I went there, I was shocked. Everything was
made to order. Only thing that was buffet style was
the fruit. Okay, that's it. And so to me, it's
gotten much better. Not bringing that up because you know
how they do the NFLPA report cards and you kind

(30:39):
of rank, you know how after a game. And this
is news to me because when I was playing, all
the families were indoors. As soon as you walked off
the locker room, take about ten to fifteen steps, they
all to the right. It's indoors and they got an
f because it's it's cold, it's outside, it's bad. Like,

(31:04):
I don't know when they changed that. When you were
there were the family members outside waiting for you after
the game. Honestly, dude, I really couldn't remember. You know,
I didn't have a lot of games that you know
my people could be there. So from what I remember,
I kind of kind of met them like in the

(31:25):
like parking lot area and we just got in the car.
We took off. So you know, you walk out and
it's the parking lot. But just before you walk out
into the parking lot, the families used to be in
that area in the out there and the thing. Right, Yeah,
but that's indoors. Maybe they've changed it, but yeah, I
just want you to get to realize, like like with

(31:47):
the Stellers, it's an actual area. It's a whole sitting area.
Like you go in, you go into that area, you
pick up your family, then y'all come out, y'all walk
through the tunnel and then you go to your car.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Oh okay, it ain't like that. No, Okay, I got no.
Oh okay, it's different.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Okay, Yeah, like it was like for me like when
I got to New England, like they actually feed you
and everything before you get out of there. Yes, brouh,
whole whole brought in buffet style. You know they'd be
having mistake and all that. Bro your family come and
eat all that then y'all, you know, y'all shoot out through.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Really in New England.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
See, I ain't never had that on any team.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, well Stiller used to do it, but they would
like it would be one of the players of coaches,
and they do like you know in the parking lot
and the players parking lot, they'd have somebody come in
and cook, like some barbecue spot or whatever, and everybody
would hang out, you know, out there after they put
they people up from the family room.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
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