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May 6, 2024 49 mins

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” react to Netflix’s Roast of Tom Brady, Donovan Mitchell and the Cleveland Cavaliers pulling off a clutch comeback to steal Game 7 from the Orlando Magic, Willie Colon saying that Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin should be on the hot seat, and J.J. Watt telling DeMeco Ryans he’d be ready to come back to the Houston Texans if needed. Ocho is inspired by Watt and tells the Cincinnati Bengals he’ll be ready if they need him too.

02:50 - Show starts
04:00 - Tom Brady Roast
28:52 - Mike Tomlin on the Hot seat
39:10 - Top 36 QBs
43:20 - JJ Watt Texans
49:30 - F1 Miami

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Speaker 2 (01:19):
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Speaker 4 (02:31):
Oh cho, let's jump right into it. Tom Brady got roasted.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Got it good? You know what I didn't. I didn't
get it. I didn't get a chance to see it.
I saw a few clips on Twitter. I'm sure you
probably saw more than I did. I just have one question, YEP,
I'm sure you're very familiar with the roaster I talked
about earlier when we talked about roast as far as
everything being a green light, especially back in those days
where nothing was really frowned upon and everything, and when

(02:57):
I say everything was a green light, even the jokes
that had a little bit of racist undertone, the watermelon joke,
the chicken jokes.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Was it anything like that or was it? Was it
a PC roast?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Now I wasn't no PC. They told you that, and
I can and midway and probably from the very beginning,
he realized what the hell side up for? Because you
have to understand. Look a roast in and of itself,
like even though we don't have cameras and all that,
when we roast one another. We at the barbershop, we
had the fact we had to get together with the
boys we roasted. We bring them sometimes roast. What did

(03:35):
the roast lead to fight? Because you make it personal? Yeah?
See now, so in that situation, man they bringing up
stuff man ay, and they brought up something by mister Craft.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
He didn't seem to press.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I think some comedians said, hey, uh, I thought I
was gonna get a massage, making reference to mister Kraft
and Tom like, hey, don't you get an You.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Can't do that. Rule number one when it comes to roasting,
you do not interrupt the person roasting at all. You
cannot interrupt the right. That is the whole point of
a roast, especially one of this magnitude, with a with
a polarizing figure like Tom Brady. You got to sit
down and take it. Did they roast the relationship between
Giselle and her trainer? Did anybody? Oh?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
They went there, bros. I'm telling you that's what you've
been around. Situation where God just start joking. We call
it Jon and called it roasting whatever they call to be.
And it gives two. It gets out of hand, It
starts to get personal, it starts to trade into a situation,
Oh your girl, oh your white, oh your kid? And

(04:39):
not what but in this way, this is what you
signed up for. So again you have to be careful me.
Could I roast somebody? Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Up? Could I get roasted?

Speaker 6 (04:53):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Absolutely not. Never.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
You can't. You can't take no roasting.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
No, because here's the thing. The guys that you're gonna
need to roast me, they know everything.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
That's the point.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
You get bucket, you get burns, you get some of
the guys that that's been around me for thirty years,
they know what all the bodies are, right right, dad?
But call o'she down to tell somebody else?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
You let them have it?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Am I the whole the whole guy.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I think obviously because of my personality, because I am
I'm pretty easy going. I could probably I could sit
through a roast because I'm so I'm so used to
jones in or ranking whatever you call it, wherever you're from.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
I would, I would, I.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Would enjoy that.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I would enjoy that if there's anything that you've done
that you're not proud about.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Part of roasting.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
I understand that that's a part of the.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Whole you say.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
You see, it's easy to say that until you under
It's like it's like being in that chair and that
prrogate room.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Man, I ain't gonna tell them nothing.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
And then they come in and they start throwing pictures
and they start talking about such and such. Hold on,
you know about that? And they talking about, well, this
is this is a murder, this is the death Center's case,
this is a capital murder.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Lived in Liberty City. Oh yes, I remember clear as day.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Now.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
They all of a sudden they talk about that's what
the hey, they're gonna put that meal on your arm.
Oh yeah, I know, Mama, not gonna be able to
hook you. Granted, ain't gonna be able to.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
You know what when it when it comes to me, obviously,
I think your life has been a little bit more
private as as as opposed to mine.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Everything I've done, I've always lived, I've always lived.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I've always lived publicly always so, so my good my
goods were public, and my loads were public. You understand
where I'm going. So I would never want to hide
behind uh social media or or a tuck Mattel. When
I made my when I made my mistakes, I made
it with my head Highah. I took responsibility and just

(07:00):
and went on about my day trying to recover and
do all the right things to right my wrongs. If
I might say, so, that's why I say someone like
someone like myself, if it came to a roast, I
can take that because I've had the brunner of the
bad in front of the world, in front of the world,
So I mean, it wouldn't be no issue.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
See for me, like when when my boys it's don't
that's on the body. But see that's the thing. But see,
now you're talking about people that you don't know and
you don't have relationship with relationship with you Jon or
ro or roasting that's what you know. Hey, you and

(07:40):
I we go back and forth with each other, but
you and I have a personal relationship. I wouldn't dare
let somebody say some of the things that what you
be talking how you oh no, mm hmm. But that's
but see that's the whole point of having a roast,
because now you're getting people but in a row a
lot of times they start off. That's what they do

(08:03):
in either comedians, like the first ten fifteen guys that
wrote your ass, They've been doing this ten fifteen, thirty years.
You had the caribl nets, you had the Don rincles,
you had to run the danger fields, you had to
play with Wilson, the Richard prior.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
All those would let you in time.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
And what's what's that girl? What's what? Stuff from Sampan
and sign what's her regular name? Oh? Oh hey, well
she was so funny. And they got damn roast with
Dean Martin. Many Dean Martin that you know, they got tape.
They got tapes with Dean Martin. You can get like
with his tapes of celebrity roads where they like where

(08:43):
they like everybody.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Now I'm and like I said, going to an agbc U.
If you came Jones, I don't know how to make it.
I don't know how you make it. And we used
to have the roases like we just go to each
of the room and we just jooned each other. I'm
talking about Joning. I'm talking about oh yeah uh. As
a matter of fact, my old teammate Red Grant, wait Grant, Yeah,

(09:13):
he was he's on the team at a red plad
pull back.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Where he must have been fat back then red small.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah, he was a full back. Everybody was small thirty
five years.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Man, I said, listen back. I hate to change the subject.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I used to watch Red Grant at the laugh Factory
way back when I was in LA, way back then,
when d Ray Davis used to hold some time.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
That's how long have we been watching Red Grant?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Damn?

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, that's dope.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
We used to have talent shows Red another dude name
or his name was Bernard Mack and they would do comedy. Uh,
this other dude named Eugene Brantley. They would have wrestling matches.
The ladies would come up to yeah, oh yeah, oh
oh jo. We had real life talent.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
The girls.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
I mean they could really really sing. Oh man, it was.
It was unbelievable. But when it came to that different game,
you the whole shape.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Of the chap. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
But like you said, things that you could get away back. Oh,
you're getting canceled today. You getting canceled today because we
were rippling them. But that's where we are not and
you adapt. I still could get them off though, you know,
I can still get the jokes.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
That's my thing.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Uh So Giselle, Bob Kraft, NICKI glazy with some crazy
Aaron Hernandez jokes.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Who knew Drew Bledsoe is funny.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
They booed Kim Kardashian even Coach Belichick, so.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
That that Yeah, Coach Belichick came on that thing.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Was he funny?

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Dressed like an Encyclopedi your salesman, but he was, But
he was there that ah maad. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
But the roast, hey, everybody, everybody, like I said, like
comedians do really well in roast because they know my environment.
That's the environment they used to it. That's that's it.
It's just like a football player. He knows how to
take a hit, wide receiver, running back, they know how
to take a hit. The average person. You put it
back there in some past say okay, take this hit.

(11:29):
You're breaking something something getting broke because you don't know
how to give you don't know how to fall.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
So but everybody, no, everybody.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
I gotta watch that one. I'm obviously I'm not watching
it to night.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
As a matter of fact, I still think they.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
It's still going on. Yeah, okay, I got I'm gona
watching it. I'm watching it in the morning. I actual,
you ain't the night, it ain't ain't happening.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, it's gonna be going on. But it was good.
Like I said, I think Tom he probably like once
that initial burn got over, he's like okay, But you
know he was sitting there like that sounded like a
good idea at the time.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Why you're in because it's too late now once it's
going once it's going to too late. Then you came
back out.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah you are. You have a no only show.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Somebody ask you to do something and you're like yeah, yeah,
and then when it comes time for you to do it,
you're like, man, why the hell I say, yeah, I know,
damn well, I wouldn't want to do this. That happens
all the time. And then you get stuck. But it
is what it is. But uh it's uh he's doing

(12:41):
the best he can with it. I know that Jasell stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
You think.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
So to hear about your old lady was seeing brother you,
Tom Brady, the greater the person, the greater ego. You
know how that worked, and to know somebody potentially it
was with her while you man, stop.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
It on Joson and you listen you've always said it before.
What did you say about expectations? If you learn to
manage your expectations, you won't be you you.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
You don't manage no expectations when I got when I've
been in marriage for ten years and two kids, ain't
no managing no expectations.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
You don't. You didn't been around long enough. Now you
didn't been wrong you, you didn't been around long enough.
You understanding? You're no women. You haven't been allowed to come.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
On now, ring ring on the ring on the finger
of relationship title.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Come on now, So.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Let me ask you a questions.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Let's just say, for the sake of argust, you married,
have a baby, You have a baby, and then you
know baby need blood or something. You ain't a match?
Are you managed expectation? You underde assumption that's your kid.
Ain't gonna manage you no expectations and no marry anymore.
Maybe in a relationship, maybe we dating. I shouldn't manage

(13:57):
my expectations. Oh Joe, I've been.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
The window window.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Hey, that little maury analogy you right now, we don't
see what happened over the years.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Old marquis you modd I'm not the problem man, I'm
gonna tell that hospital lie.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Ye, I'm gonna listen. I'm with you when you're right.
I'm with you when you're right. But there's just been
so many, so many situations. And what I always think
to myself is I try to be realistic even and
in all situations, and and and and and put things
into into logical terms, you know, and understanding that human

(14:44):
error is inevitable.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
We all try to strive for perfection and all that
we do.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
And many of us continue to always fall at times
by the wayside, no matter how perfect we try to be.
And I I always keep.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
That way way way way in the back in my head,
all the way in the back, way back, just just
with with understanding that as great as individuals try to
be as partners, at times, they make mistakes.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
At times they do so.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Even with that ojo, even with that minor, the fact
that you've been in this relationship so long, thinking and right,
and you like, how could it be because she's with me,
or she's at working, but she's found a way to
deceive me, or it appeared even if even if it's

(15:34):
only for thirty minutes, even if it's only for an hour,
Let alone. And here's the thing that gets a man
when the woman steps out on him in the relationship,
because in order for that woman to at least step
out of that man, she feels something. Yeah, you see
a lesser woman, a lesser woman as a prostitute, she
can't distinguish from.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
So there is an.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Attachment guy at yes.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Guy when they say a guy with little snake, if
you hold a head, he'll hit the woodpile that the
snake in if you thought he was in there.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
That's how difference they are, very very much.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
But for a beef or a woman to have a
sexual relationship with a man and she's in a relationship
or she's married, Yeah, oh, and that's what get it
because you know, you know.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
You've been there, think about it.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
And obviously you've been a part of that circle, the elite,
part of the one percent. You've heard the stories, you've heard,
the countless story of these situations happening over and over
and over. And one thing, I mean pertaining one thing
I've never done throughout the years, and anyone I was
dealing with, I never thought I was that big of
a person where it can't happen to me. Ever, Oh ever, ever.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Ever.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
One thing I've never done is I never put anything
past anyone, no matter who it was, no matter how
much I love them, Never put anything past anyone. Human
error is inevitable. Inevitable. Yeah, and that's just that's just
the way I've always lived, and that mindset has always
saved me from being hurt.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Disappointed, yes, disappointment, yes, being hurt.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
No, Because here's the thing. See, women are not impulsive, Yes,
are impulsive. See a woman strategic, strategic, She's gonna call
her girlfriend. Hey, we're at the mall, go buy me
something from Victoria's Secret. Now she's gonna buy what. She's
gonna meet up with a girlfriend, get it. Putting that

(17:41):
on for you with old dude the knock.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I'm talking come. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Now you've found that out because she planned it.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
See, women are not impulsive, god head always because women
like cats. See a cat can sneak up on your
rub on your You can hear a dog, a dog
would come.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
You hear feet on the floor or you're hearing paint.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Can't sneak up on your rub on your left when
you come from so keet.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Them playing that.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, but you know all that.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
And then when you find out, then you find out.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, but but you listen, one thing about it is
and I can be honest, we family chat. When you've
been on the other end of the spectrum, When you've
been on the other end of the spectrum for so
many years and you were a part of the planning,
you get where I'm.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Going, stay stayed with me.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
When you are a part of the planning that's being done,
then you're a little bit more seasoned. You're a little
bit more seasoned to understand when something right. Yeah, I'm trying.
I'm trying to take you there without really going there.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Okay, yeah, are you? Are you what I'm putting down? Okay,
pick it up with me now. But but the chat understands.
I mean, I'm sure the people in the chat. I
mean sometimes you know how guys are Ain't nobody ever
did this to me?

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Ain't you the one?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Somebody probably got up right, Nick.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Swinging from the chandelier while you talk about it happening
you up here talking to oh, Joe and I and
somebody got them Hey hip deep. But hey, that's hey.
If that's the thing with the road, So if people
know that all your indo spring.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Man, So Tom Brady better man than me. Like I said, hey,
one on one in the locker room, we with the boys.
I'm the Rose champ Man live. Oh that thing gonna
be there? Oh ude, mm hmmm, oh show. The Cleveland
Cavaliers one of the first playoff series without Lebron James

(19:52):
since nineteen ninety three one O sixty ninety four.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
And it wasn't easy.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
They came from eighteen points down, the largest come from
behind wind and again Game seven in NBA history. Excuse me,
Donovan Mitchell, after following his fifty points in the Game
six loss would not be denied. He had twenty four
of his thirty nine points in the second half. Cleveland
trail by as many as eighteen in the first half
and by ten at the half. The comeback with the

(20:17):
largest in the game seven, at least since nineteen ninety eight,
not ever since nineteen ninety eight. The Cavaliers will face
the top seed, the Boston Celtics in the Eastern Conference
Semifinals Game one in Boston, TD Garden on two.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
You know, I have a question. Again, your basketball knowledge
is Keon's above mine. So when I think about the
Calves having the face of Celtics. For one, congratulations to
the Calves on winning and what they were able to accomplish. Yeah,
but do they match up well? Like when it comes
to boxing styles wins fights, style of fighters wins fight,
depending on who's fighting. Obviously, it's the playoffs. Do the

(20:50):
Calves even stand a chance even with Donovan Mitchell was
able to do Wagner, Carter and some of those fellas,
I mean.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Not Wagner, Franz. Wagner did not play well.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
He was one of fifteen or five, so Suggs was
two or thirteen, two or ten from three. Really, no
one really played well. But Pablo ban Caro. He was
what he did. He wasn't efficient, but he got to
the fire line thirty five and sixteen. He's the second
youngest player to have a thirty five fifteen game since

(21:24):
Magic Johnson.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Window Carter junior. But dude, the dance your question.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Only having two headed months so they only got Garland
and Mitchell.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yeah, and Garland.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Garland hadn't played particularly well the last he didn't play
particularly well this series. It'll be interesting. Now they're gonna
need more than Donovan Mitchell to go out. It would
help if they had Jared Allen. I don't know if
he's coming back the next series, but him being out,
that's the Twin Towers. He and Evelyn Mobley. They can
block shots, they can after shots, but without him being there,

(21:57):
I don't know if they have I don't could they
win a game, yes? Do I expect him to win
the series? Absolutely not, even with Chris Staph Frazinga's being out.
I just think Boston is.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
They shoot him at the gym, then basically.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Basically basically cut that look.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Struce will probably take a Courou will probably take Tatum,
Stru's probably will deal with Jaylen Brown, and then uh,
Garland will probably take I'm assuming he'll probably go take
Derrick White. And because you want to say, Donovan Mitchell,

(22:41):
he's your best offensive weapon if you don't want to make.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Uh So I'm thinking who's gonna start? Probably big Al
will start in front of and and and and and
said Frazingers is out, uh and never mobileill deal with him.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
But I I just don't see. I just don't. I
just don't see Cleveland having enough to deal with Boston.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Well, hell they you might as well just Boston going
going to the might as little chalk this series up then, basically.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
But here's the thing, though, everybody, you remember what happened
last year. First player of the game, Jason Tatum shoots
the ball in the Game seven against Miami, tweak that ankle, knee,
He wasn't the same boom. So everybody, you're you're a
superstar road ankle tweat me something, and now it changes

(23:37):
the entirety of the series. But I like, I like uh,
I like Boston in the series. But give the Cavaliers
and Donovan Mitchell. We know Donovan is big time. We've
seen him go have more, have fifty point games before.
I think he had fifty seven against the Nuggets.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I think both of those fifty seven point games he lost.
Those fifty point games he lost. Did he lose to
the Nuggets when he dropped fifty seven on them in
the bubble, because I know he lost the other day
game six, But I think both of his fifty fourth
playoff games he's lost.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I like it. I like it.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
But they but they are moving on and they will
face they will face.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
The Tuesday Tuesday, right game one Tuesday. I'm waiting on tomorrow.
I mean, since we're on the topic, of basketball, like
I'm locked in. I'm waiting on tomorrow. I'm trying to
see that young fella man down in Minnesota. Man, man, wait,
they do play it all right, I'm not tripping. Oh

(24:35):
my goodness, man. Matter of fact, I like Young Bull.
I like Young Bull games so much. I'm probably gonna
and you know how I am about money, I'm probably going.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
To take a trip to Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
I'm probably gonna take a trip to Minnesota and sit
courtside just to watch Young Bull play. I got to
see that in person at least once. And I hope
it's one of those fours. I hope it's those thirty
one thirty point game. It's forty three point games.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
So Magic had a great season. They're a very very
young team. Uh, Van Caro is going to be something special.
He's unbelievable. You see why Orlando took him number one overall.
A thirty eight point effort. The second youngest got to
do a thirty eight to fifteen game since Magic Johnson.
That's saying something. Anytime is you you and Magic? Yeah,

(25:28):
you're in pre elite company. So Cavaliers move on. They
face the Celtics on Tuesday, in Game one nine time.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
For new Oh Joe, we got graphics. I'll be panicking.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
We miss graphic one time, but like we got a graphics.
Willie Cologne says Mike Tomlin is on the hot seat.
The Steelers are o N four in the postseason dating
back to twenty seventeen, and the team's former offensive line
Willick Cologne thinks Mike Tomlin should be on the hot
seat given those recent playoff struggles. The issue with Tomlin

(26:06):
right now is he wins games he's supposed to win,
but he loses games he shouldn't lose, and now steal
a Nation is frustrated because they're looking at the organization
right now that is well above average and then they
lose to lose bone head games. I'm saying to myself, well,
who are the Pittsburgh Steelers? Are they the bullies or
are they the dweves? Right now? If you if you

(26:27):
lost to the Patriots and the Cardinals, you look like dweves.
You like what Cologne had to say, You.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Say, the only will the only Willie Cologne. I know
it's a Spanish singer. Let's start there. So I'm trying
to understand mister Willie Cologne. Why his words and how
he feels and what he's saying holes anyway? Why it
holes anyway? Now, Mike Tomlin, the whole point of everything

(26:54):
you want to do as a head coach coming in
is your end goal at the end of the day.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
Is the Lombardi's trow you right?

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
He hasn't had a quarterback who want Let's start there.
Ben Roethlisberger was on the tail end. On the tail end,
you got Mason Rudolph, you have Kenny Pickett. Things haven't
worked out. So until you get a quarterback in house,
you understand how difficult it is to win games and

(27:24):
get back to that historic winning franchise that you're used
to unless you have a quarterback in place. So let's
say they do fire Mike Tomlin. What happens next if
you still if you still don't have your quarterback situation
figured out, you're right back at square one, going through
the same shit, the same same rigamarole as you were before.

(27:48):
Mike Thomlin has been very good for the organization. His
resume and what he's done for them has it speaks
for itself. So why Willie Cologne wants to come out
and say some of the things he's saying. Now, it
matters not, it matters not.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
I think.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
I think the thing is, oh, Joe, when prominent players
play for an organization and they speak negative about the organization,
that cares a little bit more weight than some casual
if you were to say something, if you were to
say something negative about Cincinnati, people are gonna listen.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, but I would. I would never I would.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
But I'm just saying, and.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Ask your question, now, did you just say that?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Just real question?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Now, I would be I would be critical in certain
aspects when things are going well. Have you ever been
critical of the Ravens in general or the Broncos. I'm
just curious. M hmm.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
When you say someone spoke out against the Steelers, who
you're referring to.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
I'm talking about Willie Cologne. He's I don't even know
who that is.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
So what did you see? What I mean? What does
that tell you?

Speaker 4 (28:48):
He's an offensive lineman? He played when you play.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Man, don't got no man, tell tale, really go sit
down somewhere man. Yeah, I know, I know Willy Parker.
I know I know Billy Parker. God damn Willie Cologne. Listen.
He named the whole. No goddamn wait, no disrespect. Listen,
I'm a bango' I'm a Bego fan at heart taking
up for the goddamn steal organization because I don't know
the hell Willie Colone is what this bullshit he talking about?

Speaker 4 (29:16):
You don't think you don't think Mike Thomas should be
on the hot.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Okay, you know, putting him on hot seat is okay,
let's let's let's put him on hot seat. Okay, let's
put him on the hot seat. We have two quarterbacks
in in question. We have justin Fields, and we have
Russell Wilson. We have a great supporting cast offensively Nije Harris,
two receivers and my un you got you got to

(29:40):
excuse me real quick. Is Deontay Johnson still there? Or
is he gone?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
No?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
In Carolina?

Speaker 5 (29:46):
So we got brother George Pickens, who's on the other
side of George.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
See, I don't know. I don't.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I didn't follow the draft, so I don't know if
they drafted somebody or not.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
I really don't. I don't.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
I don't. I don't like because I if I can't
ring off the receivers and supporting cast at Russell Wilson
and Justin fields have to work with. That's not a
good thing. This is a passing league. So you're gonna
need catches of the ball, catches of the ball that
I actually have knowledge about and know about, because it
makes the quarterback job that much easier. Whoever the offensive

(30:19):
coordinator is with the Steelers, it makes his job easier.
The better catches of the past, Oh my god, the
better catches of the ball that you have. I'm just
say receivers. I don't know why I keep saying that.
Damn man, Willie Colonne, Come on, man, now, Willie Cologne.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
He make that head last. That's what happens.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Look me personally, Ojo, I try to I try to
stay away in the off season because there's nothing happening.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
They just had to draft.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
You got Ota, you got training camp once the season starts.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Because a lot of times don't yo.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
A lot of times book in this business, what we're
in a lot of time, people analysts, prognostications, whatever you
want to call them. They want to be first. Damn
being right. They want to be first. And so I'm
going to base it on what I see or a

(31:17):
period of time. Now, the standard is the standard for
the Steelers. They're expecting to compete from Lombardi's and they
haven't been able to do that in a very long
time now. Mike Tomlin is not the only coach that's
been dealing with quarterback issues, and we hold those coaches accountable.

(31:38):
So that's all I'm saying is that we hold other
coaches accountable for the play of the team. And I think,
look that Willy can have his opinion, and I don't
want to speak for Willie, but I'm just saying, like
when I valuate and you know, Kyle Bohler and when
we had t Boy and we had some other other quarterback,
I'm like, bro, and yeah, it probably hurt more because

(32:02):
it came from me. It came from me, and so
I know it probably, but they know at the end
of the day, there's no malicious intent.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
I'm just basically because I got to do that on Joe.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I can't just criticize everybody else and then let the
Ravens and the.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Ball goes gay.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
But coming from you, it means something. It holds weight. Okay,
based on your resume and what you've done, you have
a gold jacket, So coming from you, it hits home.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
It stings a little bit, especially for those players that
are there that play for the Ravens, especially those players
that are there that play for the Broncos. Now, that's
no disrespect to Willy Cologne. I played the game for
a very long time. I played against the Steelers twice
a year for a decade straight. This individual that is
said that he said about Mike Towney and the Stevens organization,
I have no clue or idea who the hell that is.

(32:51):
And I mean that with all due respect, but with him,
with him with great understanding of knowing that you played
the game and you understand this situations that are lacking
in Pittsburgh, why say make Mike Thomlins on the hot seat.
We didn't have the adequate parts that are needed to
compete for those Super Bowl Super Bowl titles like they have, which,

(33:12):
if I'm not mistaken, they have six ls.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Well.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yes, the Steelers organization is unlike any other. They normally
let the head coach leave on his own free will.
That's why they've only had three in the last almost
sixty years. They had Chuck Noll, who left on his
own ninety two. They had coach Kyward who left on
his own and the heck of Mike Tomlin. So here
it is a situation. Normally the coaches leave on their own.

(33:40):
The Steelers, they're not moved by fan the fans booing
and saying fire this, They're not moved by.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
No, they're not gonna let the fans bullet.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
A friend of mine in Pittsburgh air bushitit. People riding
stuff into me. That's not how they That's not how
the Rooneys. That's not how they move. They're very much
they understand. See their football lifers. All they've ever done
is football, with the exception of a year since nineteen
thirty three they've owned the team, had a year off,
got it back.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
But for the most part, this is what they do.
This is who they are.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Now they've had some brothers branch off and do the
casino on the horse, things like that, but this.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Branches of the Rooneyes. This is what they do.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
So they understand that it's not like a normal business
that you have ebbs and flows and then you know, hey,
get a new CEO.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
That's not how the Rooney is. So the Roonies are
not going.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
To react, say, like a lot of other owners would
when the fans become restless, or they print negative or
negative things are being written or said about them in
the paper. So oh, Joe, check us out. Touchdown. Why

(34:57):
ranks the NFL top thirty six quarterbacks? We already know
who number one was, so uh, Josh Allen was two,
Joe Burrow was three. Yeah, Josh was two, Girl was three,
Herbert was four. C. J. Stroud five, Stafford six, Lamar seven,

(35:21):
Jordan Love eight, Aaron Rodgers nine, Trevor Lawrence is ten.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Whoa whoa whoa? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
let me, let me, let me, let me, let me
look at the notes. Let me let me look at
the notes. And and and reworked. Chat, y'all stay with me,
chat and tell me if I'm wrong about re ordering
this list of quarterbacks. Now, Number one is Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Yeah, that's gonna say his name, Number one, that.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Patrick Mahomes, Ray, Charles and Stevie wanted could see that.
Number two to me chat despite the injuries. Number two
in Joe Burrow. Okay, then we can go Josh Allen. Okay.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
Number four should be Lamar Jackson. What are we doing?

Speaker 4 (36:08):
What I mean being saying? I'm not so sure Lamar
should be passed two or three.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Lamar Jackson should be next. Now. Justin Herbert, I love
him to death. He's been in in LA for this year,
four year, five, come.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Out five five. It's fine.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
C J.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Stroud in one season has outplayed Justin Herbert.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Chat. Do you agree with me? Chat?

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Let me know if you agree with Okay, So c J.
Stroud should be four.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Now wherever you want to take it from there with
everybody else that's on you. That just my four picks
based on what I've seen the past couple of seasons
and especially c J. Stroud's freaky season, his historic Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
They got Justin Field ranked in front of Russell Wilson's.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
You see what you see them talk about?

Speaker 4 (37:00):
You to talk about? Hello?

Speaker 2 (37:03):
They got Deshaun Watson ranked behind JJ McCarthy, behind Gardner
Minshew be Hid, Real Levis, behind Jacobrasset, behind Drake May,
behind Caleb Williams.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Really, what are we doing? Why is two all the
way at?

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Fuck it?

Speaker 5 (37:18):
Oh shit, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Why is two all
the way at eighteen?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
So? What are they? What are they basing? What are
they basing? What is touched? I'm not I'm not.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Sure who touched out they put the list together.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
I'm not line, but let's like, come on now like this, this,
this is how touchdown Wire. You can lack credibility when
you have a list like this that is all out
of sorts. Chat. I know you all agree with me,
especially with my first four, as far as everybody else
after four. I'm assuming it's based on preference, but you
you would want to use it based on stats and

(37:52):
what those quarterbacks have done for their team.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yes, I want to know where they're basically it on
because to have Trevor Lawrence in front of h.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Wait a minute, how is Rock Purdy and Jalen Hurts
all the way they got Kirk Cousins, who hasn't won
a playoff game?

Speaker 4 (38:12):
I think you were one one. Okay, he's won one.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Playoff game in front of Jalen Hurts, in front of
tour Dad, Kirk Cousins, Jared Golf. I think golf is
a little too golf is a little too high. He
should be a little lower. Tyler Murray and I listen,
come on now, come on, touchdown Wire, Come on, man,

(38:35):
we got we got to do better. Now, we got
to do better I'm not sure. I'm sure you have
a great knowledge of the game of football, but this
is this is ridiculous. This is ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
I'm gonna create my own goddamn chart.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Go ahead, and we'll put it up. Houston, Texas Revived.
Revival has caught the JA has caught Ja Jo Wats' attention.
The three time NFL Defensive Player the Year hasn't played
since twenty twenty two, but if the Texans head coach
Demiko Ryan gives him a call, he's willing to consider
coming out of retirement. I told Demiko last year, I said,
don't call unless you absolutely need it. But if you

(39:12):
ever do call, I'll be there and he and he knows,
not the call unless it's absolutely necessary.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I like that matter of fact much. I'm gonna try
I'm gonna try that too. I'm gonna try that too.
Since Demiko Ryans and JJ wont had that type of
relationship where if you really need me, and you make
that call, but make sure you really really do need me,
I'm gonna try that with Zach Taylor. I'm gonna try

(39:38):
it with Zach if you really if you listen to
need some fresh legs in training camp. You want to
give tea, You want to give brother burden hanh. You
want to give Chase a little rest? Bring me in
there you want to give You want to give Tyler
board it.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Oh, ain't nothing, you French.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Oh, I have nowhere in tear. I have nowhere in
tear and I played it.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
You got age.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
It is nothing but a number. Number.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Yeah, and your number.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Is I ain't number fifty six, number fifty six. You
can't tell me I can't go play right now? Third downs?
You mean to tell me I can't go in third
and three? You put me in the slot. You think
I can't play Mad right now? Somebody up right now.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
Mad Madden, Madden to our real life.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
No, I'm talking about real life.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
You play even understand about me?

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Is what you don't get to see in the off
season is I trained with these fellas every year in
the off season as a dB with Jamar Chase will
step under I cover them boys, So I know I'm
still able and willing to move and cover transition, stop
start right along with them. So if the opportunity to

(40:51):
present itself, because I'm in such great shape even at
fifty six, I know I can go out there and compete,
and on specially occasions third downs and I'd be I
be an animal right now for the Bangals. Right now.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
The only special you're competing for is a Mother's Day,
Father's Day, all the holidays, those are the special occasions.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
I don't like the fact that I don't like you
believe in me, because you know what you sound like.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
You sound like my teacher in elementary school. She didn't
believe in me either. She told me I would never
mount to anything.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Matter of fact. Mike Brown, Katie Troy Twins, if you
see this, please, if the opportunity to present yourself, please
just bring me in a training camp. Just bring me
in a training camp so you see what I look like.
And you will notice, even though a decade plus removed
from the game of football, I still look the same.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
I'm just as fast. Just give me a chance.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Give me. Listen, they gave Rudy a chance. Give vote
your chance. I won't let you down.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Uh, bring your in. He's great. He can talk to
you and let him know what you get them, how
to manage the money and things of that nature. Do
not bring Ocho in because cannot play. That's a lot
when preparation meets opportunity. Guess who shows up huhy to

(42:16):
come knocking? Guess who going answer the door?

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Me A Hi?

Speaker 5 (42:21):
You A ready still do nightcap?

Speaker 1 (42:24):
We can still do nightcap because the bank, I'll be
able to get on after the game.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
O Jo, you can.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I don't like that you. I don't like that you're
saying that. I don't like that you're saying.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
That it's okay you had a man, you were up
with a still well, but that's the whole That's.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
What I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
I'm still well.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
I'm still with Hey, now you're pissing me off. Man,
real ship. I can play man.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
Bangals walking the Zach Taylors in the training camp. I
just want to show them you can cut me, cut
me after week one.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
I just want to.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
I just want to put some feeling together.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Ain't nobody, Ain't nobody taking ten years is off from
a sport that's as physical as the game of football.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
Ain't gonna go back. And I said, you're not doing it.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
You call that ship they doing out there right now physical?

Speaker 1 (43:10):
You know who stillers in the Ravens twice a year.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
That's physical.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
You can't even hitt nobody today.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
You know what, you know what I had with no injuries.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
M hm. And you can't go out there to say so.
That's even Steve.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Look at this, look at imagine this again on Sunday
out there right now.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Man, talk about baby.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Man, I thought that was all. I thought that was all.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Let's go. Now, you know what, They're gonna bring me
in just because it is just because you said I
can't do it, They're gonna bring me in just to
prove you wrong.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Oh Joe, maybe you know what if you was like
a year removed two years back, I said, you know what,
Oh Joe, you're right.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
I've been hyping you up. I said, Man, a chance.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
You talking about year removed. I never removed myself from
the NFL. I never stopped training. I've been training the
past decade just in case that call comes. Because you
never know, I'm always prepared. I'm always ready.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Did it? Let me ask your question had to come, that's.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
The opportunity to present itself.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
Because I didn't didn't put myself out.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
There, it ain't gonna present itself. It is I would
do for the last decade. You've been waiting on the call.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Say I'm waiting on the call. I said, I didn't
put myself out there to let them know that, you
know what my services are available, like JJ Watt.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
You know what I'm saying. I could have it. I
made the call. You ain't put yourself out there, But
I made the call. You know you don't want making
the call right now because they're gonna see this. They
gonna see this.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
No, we're gonna edit this out. It's not.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
I bet, I bet.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
You no, chat, I can't believe. McLaren Driver.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Added his name to list of Formula One race winners
with a sensational breakthrough victory Sundays at Miami Grand Prix
overhauling Red Bulls riber.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Matt that was nice my experience obviously, I went to
F one with the missus. It was it was awesome.
I thought I didn't go Saturday. I thought Sunday would
be the best, the best, best thing for me to
get there and watch the race. Being my second time
going to F one, I was able to attend it
last year. Uh this year on behalf of Heinegan. Everyone

(45:36):
at Heinegan, I thank you for the opportunity and thank
you for the hospitality. Nick christ who's the head of
Global Park Global Partnerships at Crypto dot Com, Paul Horgan,
who's a partner at Ryan Sports. I appreciate you guys
for the hospitality and taking the time out to talk
to me. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. When and

(45:57):
when I saw it was maybe I think it might
have been lap forty seven when I saw brother Norris
had almost a four or five second lead, I knew
at that point he was winning because there were only
eleven twelve laps to go. Tho the atmosphere, I'm not
sure if you ever attended F one before. The energy
the atmosphere is energetic. The fans are engaged throughout the

(46:20):
entire time, especially when someone makes a good pass, and
the excitement from the fans and the clapping and the
cheering is phenomenal. So if you haven't attended F one,
you have to do it. That was my third time.
I was obviously I went to F one in Miami.
Last year. I was able to go in Vegas, who
thank you again also to Las Vegas, to Las Vegas,

(46:42):
Las Vegas Tourism. I can't remember the name exactly, but
I thank y'all for that opportunity. And that experience. But
F one was phenomenal. Oh, it was phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Man.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
I think they called it a rich Man sport.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
And when you're in that atmosphere in it and you're
in that environment, I feel a little uncomfortable, you know,
because you can see, you get, you can smell the money,
if you know what I mean, you got. I'm not
sure how many cars on the track. Twenty million dollars
a car. I had someone explaining to me the prices
of the cars. The engine by itself is like five

(47:20):
hundred grand. Come on, man, what are we doing? Somebody
wrecked out there unk? And the first thing I said,
that's twenty million dollars down the train. That's what it
takes about a year to run those cars. About twenty
million dollars.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
The steering wheel, it's one hundred grand.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
What do we do?

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Yeah? And the tires.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
You think about how many how many cents they go
through in the course of the year, and how you
build those cars to dissipate, so they basically just centigrate
take all that energy away from the driver. Uh yeah,
I was gonna go, oh Joe, but I got I'm I'm, i'm, I'm,
I'm all over the place ten days. So I was like,

(48:01):
ain't no where I can do Miami because I already
got to do Philey and Atlanta, New York, Houston.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
But if you need me to come with you, man,
I have no problem. You know, keep your company and
you know I could be right down your side and
as as your biggest support and biggest cheerleader. So if
you need me, let me know. I got I got
mild spirit flies at all the places that you just mentioned,
and I won't.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Well I think next I think next week you're gonna
be in New York, Miami. What are we doing in
New York? Well, that that's news to me. You're breaking
the news to me. What are we doing in New York? Well,
I guess they've been talking to Rail, so I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
Wait this is nightcap uncle, Oho, how you just adding
the third.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Party feature in rail? Look at this for her?

Speaker 1 (48:49):
She just comes, she was in the streets. She just
she's just coming in the streets with her girls.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
We're going to New York.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:58):
That real?

Speaker 4 (48:59):
How you doing? I was the up one day.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I had to bring them along, but it was good.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
S.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, the volume
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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