Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top NFL stories of the week, including Travis Hunter playing 100% of the snaps, Shedeur Sanders criticism on patting the Football, Dolphins growing tired of Tyreek Hill drama, & much more!
04:19 - Travis Hunter says he can play every NFL snap
24:00 - Dolphins tired of Tyreek Hill drama
33:16 - Shedeur Sanders patting Footballs
50:37 - Julio Jones retires
53:13 - Ravens owner Bisciotti: "We have a small window with Lamar
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Speaker 3 (02:49):
What are you at the next level both? Just like
you saw me play, you want to do both? How
many snaps in a football game? Can you play all
of them? As they gave me a chance to the
opportunity to do.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
It and one of so we were talking about the
challenges that that come with it. You got to be
an offense into meetings, you gotta be in defensive meetings.
You gotta be in wide receiver meetings, you got to
be in defensive back meetings. How is there enough time
to do all that? How did you prepare for that
when you play college?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Well, we kind of got twenty four hours in the day.
We probably sleep for by eight and mil so we
probably got a team more dedicated to the I'm dedicated
to football, Oh, Joe.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The issue is not playing both of them? Can you
play both of them?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Well? Right? Right?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Because I can put anybody there to play both sides,
But how well can they play it?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Listen? That's it. There's a difference. There's levels.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
There have been great guys in college that couldn't play
at that next right, And you're asking you because see,
for me, it don't do him, no for me, for
him to go out there like, oh, he playing both sides?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Right? Oh? How well will he play both sides of
the ball?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
That's the question. Do I believe he gonna play every snap? No, No,
he's not. You know what I like? I like to believe.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I like the fact that he believes he can actually
do it most of the time. That's where it all starts.
In anything you do in life, believing that you can
do it, manifesting not only doing that, not only believing
it and manifesting it then working your way into actually.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Being able to do it.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Hasn't been done before, absolutely not, which is why they
used to play both ways back back sixties.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think Chuck McCarrick rested, so was the last two
way player. He was a middle linebacker and a center
for the Eagles. He was the last full time two
way players. Concrete Charlie, and I think.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
One of the reasons why me and you and everyone.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Else is debuckleing, hit debunking his ability to play full
time on both sides of the ball is because of
how much extreme what's the word I'm looking for here.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
It's a physical grind because guess what, he plays both
sides of the ball. He gets hurts to miss a game.
Guess what I've got, I'm down two players.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Yeah, that that that too. Listen, I listen.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I like.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I like the confidence though, sure that's part of it.
That's half the bat is believe.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Everything you do, believing you can do it.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Not what I do.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
What I would love for him to do is you
got to focus on one You got to focus on
one thing. You got to be You got to be
great at one thing. You're not gonna be able to
grade at both. You can't be great at dB and
great at receiver. You have to become a craftsman at
one or the other. Now I don't know which one
is gonna be I'm me personally. I like him playing both.
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I enjoy it. I enjoy watching him play both sides
of the ball. Will he be able to do it
at that level, at an elite level, at the next level,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
That's very, very difficult.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
When you look at the let the talent you're gonna
have to see week in and week out.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
That's the hard part.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
At the level, the level, the level, the level field evens.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Everything. There are a lot of guys that just as
talented as he is.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Wait say it again, I said.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
There are guys that just as talented.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Justice talent, there's something that are even more talented.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Everyone in Jay, everyone in just as fast everyone Justice quick,
ladder movement, short air quickness. No matter what you everything,
everybody is exactly the same. There's one thing that separates everybody,
your technique, and up here it becomes the mental game.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
At that point. I like it though.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
It's exciting.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'm curious to see where he goes, and not only
where he goes, but what they allow him to do.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
How are they going to use him? People tell me
they don't hit in the NFL. Yeah they do, they do.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Please, I know I know. I know the rules have
changed a little bit. You know, they can't hit like
they did during our day, but they still hit that.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
They still hit it. I tell you you know what
I wish.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I wish all the fans that say they don't hit,
they would side a waiver and go out there.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
It's no no no no no no okay, who's.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
The who's the safety? Okay? GJ.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Watt it's no, no no no, oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
They said they don't hit, so I want them to
go out there.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's one thing to watch the game from the stands.
It's one thing to watch the game of football from TV,
but put on to put on some pads as a
fan and not understanding how fast the game is and
how fast mofos is moving.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Man, don't do that.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You you play that, you played, you played eleven years.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I played fourteen years. I understand a collision.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And people see everybody thinks something easy if you've never done.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It, or maybe they maybe they have, maybe they have
done it. When we talk about pee wee, high school, college, pro.
But it's different, it's different. There's levels to this. As
you go up, you play flag and you play popcorn.
We pop bor or whatever you want to call it.
Then you go to JV, you go to high school,
(08:28):
you go to college. Now there is no higher level
than the NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
So all the people say, look the NFL, hey will
allow you to play. We want you to signe this waiver.
Whatever position you want to play. If you will want
to play running back, you want to play wilde running back.
Way I want to play cornerback. If they want to please,
and so, no, jo not the game. We're gonna Hey,
we're gonna have practice. Okay, who you want.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
To go up by?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So you won't frayd Water, you won't zire Frankly, you
won't wro con Lo. Okay, you won't pass, you won't
Jalen Ramsay, you won't sting it.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Talk about who do you want? Who do you want
to guard? Who do you want to go on? Forgets?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Now, wait just one time and we'll think. Okay, now
tell me what you think. You think they're still hitting NFL.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And you know what, people's perspective on the game won't
change until they're actually in that situation. It's a situation
hypothetically speaking, they will never be in. Therefore, that's why
they comment the way they do from the outside looking in.
That's why they tore it down on players the way
they do, because they've never been in that position. They
don't understand how difficult it is. So it's easy to talk,
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you know, from the couch or if you watch the
game in your studying the game and have never actually
played it to understand how difficult it is. I don't
think people really understand how great Saint Kwon Barkley is.
Forget the number of these prut it up. I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I don't they get it.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
They don't underst Jackson and Josh Allen, all these dudes
that you talk about, you know, on Twitter and accent.
They don't understand how good these dudes are.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh, I'm not saying that you can't catch, but I'm
saying catch the ball where a dude gonna drill you.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
We have to focus. Yeah, you have to focus. We
have to lock it on the ball, bring it in. Man.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Man, there's so many that man.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Man, hey, oh Joe, they don't hit no more. I'll
tell you what.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
We're gonna hand the ball off and we're gonna block it,
just like we put. If that was Derrick Henry or
sat quan running the football. We're not gonna turn him
loose on you. We're gonna block it all the same.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Mind you remember this, and when they block it all
the same, there's always one free man that the running
back has.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Absolutely because the quarterback is not blocking anybody. Always one
man at the court that the running back has to be.
And that's your man. You got to beat him on
your own. It's different man, and you got on pads.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I mean you, you're not used to joking nobody.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
As a matter of fact, you see the guy from
the Hawks, they had the two guys that he went
to lay the ball up.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And the end up tearing the knee for real.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Yes, you sal.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
About like that and had five Yes they have you
already had the competition.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You gotta make so many points. One gallon one end.
One got on the other end. They gave five four three.
He got the ball with the layer up, ring him
up out of in a wheelchair.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
That's funny.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
What's what's the thing is thought you.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I don't think people realize when people like, well, damn man,
you bigger than that. Though you don't look that big. Hell,
I'm small compared to a tight end and then you
multiply that I got running full speed. If you ain't
never been used to taking no hit, or you haven't
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taken a hit in a while, you're not taking not
at all. Because as I got older, I didn't want
to look.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I was a guy. Ay, I would take a lik,
I would pay. Okay, I'm right back up.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
If I got old, I started getting year twelve thirteen fourteen,
I put that blink on joey oh yo, our.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Head right on up out the boy. I ain't taking
that licked the I'm good. Listen.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
As you get older, you get by the year ten
and on, you make business business decisions.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Absolutely, Hey, put that blink on, head on out of bound. Hey,
turn it up now, I'm good. Hey, if hey on, Joe,
your second to one. If we can't get second or
one thirty one dollars, somebody's wrong. Something started laying the
ball game for him down, something like that. Okay, god
can hey, I got too. Hey back in the day
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on Joe, two guys coming, Okay, you.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Over here, you over here, okay, sit him go over
the cow.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I thank you the lesson of the danger. Let me
get you, let me get you. I will get y'all
back inside. That's a problem.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You not a problem.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
But I'm anxious. I'm really anxious to see Travis Gibbor
the go playing both sides. It's important where he goes on.
It's very very, very very very important where he goes.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And I hope the team that drafts him understands his beliefs,
understands his wants, and they use him in that manner
because he's an exciting player.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
He's a generational talent, and.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
They need to be able to use him in a
manner so he's able to display that at the next
level the same way he did at Colorado.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'm not so sure it's not more of a mental
than a physical focus, because you have to be on
your a game all the time, especially on defense because
cause you know, sometimes the wide receivers you're not getting
the ball, so I ain't really got to focus.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I ain't saying throw them in the ball. I'm laughing
at the progression.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
But as a defensive player, as a d as a corner,
you lie, you have one slip, o Joe, you hesitate
a little.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Bit, You got smell the strike up the band.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
That's it and now you coming. Hey, you hey, and
what everybody do. I think you ever touched that what
they do with Joe. Then look up back to Joe
but Trump, Yeah, that's you, that's you. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah you did that. We just saw that. Yeah, when
you look at him there yet. But I'm askeious to
see what he can do. He believes he can do it.
Uh do I believe he can play every snap offensive defense?
(14:49):
I don't do. I think he can play one side
and then the half packages. I believe it's easier if
he's a dB for them to install packages at the
wire position.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I believe that's easier. But let him try it.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, I like it, I think, And you draft you're
drafting him knowing that's what he wants to do.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
One of the reasons he went with Time. Time told
him he would let him do it. I'll let you
do whatever you can do. He showed Time he could
do it. He did it.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
He won the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
One of the great seasons of the wide receiver had
but thirteen fourteen hundred yards a dB. He had a
bunch of pass breakups, had a forest bumber, key interceptions,
good tackler.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Oh, he gonna come up and tackle too.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Let's see what he can do.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
No, no problem whatsoever given I think you got to
get I think you have to give him that because
deep down, because now he gonna feel some type of way.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Oh yeah, you already knew you already listen, knew what
I wanted before I got here. I expressed my interest
in it. I said it over and over and over
countless times.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
And you bring me in.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You draft me this high wherever it may be, and
then when I get here, you tell me, well, we
don't thank you. You know how they play that game. Well,
we don't thank you. Well, we we think you're better
suit that. Come on, now, don't play that game.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Nobody tell me he would love that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So where do you think he goes O Joe oh Man,
what do you think, trap?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Cleveland, the Giants, I don't know, because listen, when you
talk about Cleveland, they need a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
When we talk about the Giants, they need a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So I don't think any any in those two teams
are not passing up on your door.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Or cam Ward.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Now, I listen, somebody might come up from low and
surprise us on draft day and come and grab a
quarterback early and then it freeze up to your door
somewhere else. We keep forgetting were not even talking about
that dude, Carter Hell, who's to say he don't go first?
You know, you just don't know, especially with those four.
(16:58):
Ain't no telling how it's going to go. But I
know he's gonna go in the top five. I just
don't nowhere And who knows what's going to happen on draft.
They with some other team and some conversation that they
might that they might feel a player is up there
that might be a generational talent and a franchise changing
player to them, and they go up and snatch them
and change the draft.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
All the way up.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
According to Adam Shefter, the Browns are more likely to
pick Travis Hunter at two in the draft. He impressed
Cleveland at his pro day. The Browns are exploring a
potential taking Travis Hunter at two, been trading back into
the first round to land Jalen Milroe. It's possible that
Melroe could be picked around there with their second pick,
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but it would be gambling and in the season with
Kenny Pickett FQB one, Milroe was invited and he has
accepted an invitation to the NFL Draft.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
You think, is he Milroe has a chance to go
in the first round.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
You think that's what they're saying. Oh Joe, It's just
I don't like that, man.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I don't like when they I don't like when they
bring players in and have them sitting there like that
all day and ain't no telling where you're going to go.
It's not it's not for certain you're going in the
first round. They put the camera on you where everybody's
getting picked.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
That's embarrassing to me, man, I would be caught right.
Let me tell you why I'm calling Hans. I'm cautious
because I watched Anthony Richardson, and I watched a supremelygue
guy that size, run four or five, four or four whatever,
he ran, jump out of the gym. Well, he's a
fifty fus percent completion guy in college. M College, NFL
(18:44):
is harder to get completions than they end up.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Ben caught if you're fifty in college. You see he
was forty six. Richardson was forty six. There are times
I'm looking at mirror, I'm like, bro, what what was that?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Now?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I'm not saying that with some time. But how much
time are you gonna grab it? Cause you go into Cleveland, Bro,
they're gonna need you to be at at least by
year two.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
We got to go.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
You're gonna need to be ready to get to go
because Jimmy and d Haslam, they look. Look, we bit
the bullet on this with the Sean. We gave up
three first round picks. One of them was c. J. Strouds,
one of them was Will Anderson ju and the other
one was tanked there.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
That's crazy, Oh, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
One was offensive Rookie of the Year, the other was
Defensive Rookie of the Year, and they both gone to
the Pro Bowl. Now we bit the bullet on Now,
we signed off on Deshan, but you brought that to us.
Now we just gave what you call them one hundred
and forty million, one hundred and sixty million whatever we
(19:55):
gave Miles Miles period.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
We took raft.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
We traded back into the first round, which means that
we're probably gonna have to give up next year's first round.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Okay, listen, they've they've I mean, listen, the Browns have
been missing. Okay, the Browns have been missing for a
long time on their first round picks. They've been missing
for a long time. I know one thing, and they
can't miss if they go with TRAVISO, you can't. You
can't miss. I won't miss.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Now. They missed, they miss they missed the quarterbacks. But
you're not gonna miss there.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
So I'm ready for it to say. I'm ready for
to see how this same player I'm trying to I'm trying.
I'm tired of trying to play expert and like, oh,
he's going here, he's going there because you don't, like
you said, somebody might come zooming up the draft board
because somebody like, oh, he ain't get the leg that
I can get him here. We're about to find out.
(21:00):
The Dolphins are reportedly growing increasingly frustrated with Tyreek's hills
anticks on the word about the culture he's creating in
the locker room that have begun to hear teams out
potential trade scenarios, but will only act on the deal
where they feel they're getting fair value.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
In the retiring I tried to tell you this, so
you ain't want to say, oh you whoa, whoa whoa?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
You trying to tell me what?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
How about Tyreek. They were getting tired of that.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Oh well, listen, boy, it unk I think Tyreek. Tyreek
ain't slow. He's pretty smart. If you if you know
they're tired of it, and you keep on doing it,
what does that tell you he's doing it.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
On what doing it on? What do you think you
do it on purpose? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Absolutely at this point absolutely TikTok.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
You know some of the stuff he's doing.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, he the one that touched him talking about Oh
to find out your team trying to trade him. You're
the one the last game of the season you talk
about the piece out. You got to go do it's
best at you. I don't like when God, I don't
like when people become a victim in their own story.
Bill Big him in someone else's story. You can't be
a victim in a story that you created. You created this.
(22:07):
You wanted out of Kansas City, a situation.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
He wanted to get paid. He wanted to get paid.
That's all you want to get paid. They wanted they
were gonna pay him. But you gotta realize Tyreek had
years left on the contract. Now, when they came to
him and they asked him what he restructed. He said, noah,
I don't believe I signed the contract.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Then the next year he wanted to redo his contract,
even though he had said he had year before he
signed the contract.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I got no problem with that.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You go to a guy that was injury prone, Oh Joe,
tell the people at home, how did the tour come
into the league?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
He left it to the league. Remember he fractured his
hip his last year. Yes, sir, he was injury prone
in college. Weren't they not nearly as physical as they
are in the NFL. So what do you think is
gonna happen? Oh Joe, excuse You're gonna deal with some
injuries here on at the next level.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
That's what he's had to deal with.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So now and then you gonna look, I get it.
You know you a but you tried to sell us.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
You tried.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
You ain't nobody to believe that tour was on my
homes level. Not his accuracy, not being able to throw,
none of that. Okay, you want to hype your quarterback up.
You're like, hey, I believe in it. We get all
of that. You played the wide receiver position. I started
wide receiving the tight end. I get it. I want
to give my guy confidence. Let you know, I believe it,
but I'm trying to figure out. Oh Joe, what is it?
(23:29):
Like you said, his first year there, he was second
in the league in receiving the first third, second year there,
first year there, he was second in the league of receiving.
The next year to there, he was one of the
few guys that's ever had eighteen hundred receiving yard. Last year,
he was nick it got off to a bastard. It
started the first game of the season. I show with
the traffic stopped me so for it.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
So on. I don't really know what happened.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Behave bro I, Oh, I just don't get these guys.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
You never know what's gonna happen all that, all that
stuff is going on. You know, Tyreek is not happy.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Obviously, He's continues to do what he does on social media,
probably trying to egg on the trade and in that
manner in a fun and entertaining way, you know, using TikTok.
Then you have the draft coming up on Ain't no
telling what's gonna happen Draft Day, Ain't no telling, So
you know something something might happen there. You know, it
changed things up I'm just like, that's what's so exciting
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to me because you just don't know. Yeah, you just
don't know. There's nobody for certain. You know what, he
was so great in college. He's absolutely going number one.
You just don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, uh who you talking about going number one one?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Man? Oh oh you're talking about understanding? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
You just you just you don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It could be.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Listen, Tennessee need Tennessee need the quarterback, don't they Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I mean I don't know, man, ain't no telling. I
think the thing is O Joe, this is what we say.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, no matter how greate you are, they'll move your
yes and they'll fact because they're not gonna let you
become bigger than the team.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Not only bigger than the team, they won't let you
become bigger than the game itself. No, mm hmm No,
because Kansas City they traded Tyreek.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
And went the street strict roles.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
But listen, they want you got to understand why they
went to three. They got they got them. They got
that special dude over there too. They got that special
So what does that tell you?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Whide receivers ain't doing nothing without what, no matter who
he was Tyreek had a ten hundred yards, Wada had
another twelve hundred.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Did they win a playoff game? I was, I was,
I was, I was just talking about the super Bowl factor.
But I got you there.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
You but know you better have that guy to pull
that trigger. Oh yeah, you would have had you to
have him. It's because think.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
About it, all those years New England, how many how
many pro bot wide receivers they had. If you take
Randy Moss out of the equation, Wes Welker, I think
Troy Brown would no one.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
But I don't think Troy. I don't think Troy. I
could be wrong. I don't know if Troy went with Brady.
I think he went maybe a year before Brady. Maybe
I'm wrong, right, But if you go back and study it, Oh,
John damn have a whole lot of Pro Bowl wide receiver.
That's why that's why people really.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Fell in love with toal Right, Like they din't get
all these super but going to all these Super Bowls
and they got all these talking wide receiver here, wide
receiver here, wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Over there, Pro Bowl, all Pro and he doing that.
You better have that guy. It makes a difference, is
the reason they make the big Bucks.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
It makes a big thing. He's the foundation. If you
get him, Ojoe, I can build it. If I got
a solid foundation, I can put whatever I want on it.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I can. If I got a great foundation, I.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Can put a twenty thousand square foot on or I
can put a thousand square foot on my foundation solid
and it can hold it all.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
But foundation is so important in all aspects.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
To like it it is, well, you just you just
said a word, Dan, don't even know you said it.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I get Gronk was there, But y'all do realize that
Brady went to how many Super Bowls before Gronk around.
Don't do that. Don't minimize that man. Gronk is, Hey,
Gronk from me is one of the two best tight ends.
Some people got Gronk one, some people got Kelsey. I
got Kelsey.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Hey. I'll debate. I'll debate you.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Look at the regular season, look at the postseason, blah
blah blah.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
So forth the saw. But Tom, come on that. All
I know is Dion branch one super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
He went to Seattle and we never heard from him.
David Patton. Y'all know where David Patton went after he
left New England. Go back and look at the receivers
that he had early in his career. Yes, he has,
and boy when they left New England? Did you ever
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hear from them again?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
He take it? Undrafted? Y'all?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Do realize Wes Walker was an undrafted guy? Y'all do realize?
Edelman was a seventh round guy?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
What was? What? Did?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
What round? Did Amadola get drafted in? Because I think
he went to the RAM first? Ojo the RAM first?
If I'm not mistaken, that man.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Was really turned.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Look they were good players, but I don't know if
they're gonna be what they.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Became without being there. Yeah. Wow, So he was an
undrafted three eight aven Dola?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Hey, am Mindola was nice too, huh he.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
He was the Cowboys, then the Eagles, then the Rams.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
He was nice.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Get David Gibbons. Do y'all remember what David Gibbons? Once
he left New England? What about David Patton? Dion Branch
was a Super Bowl MVP. He went to Seattle. Did
y'all ever hear from him again?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah? Elima was a quarterback over Yeah I can't, I can't.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I can't say yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Just look, I don't oh yo, uh uh seven eleven.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Chris Chris Hogan, Yo got.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Oh always open Buffalo Midlands. Yes, with the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
What are you undrafted? He was like a lacrosse or
a field hockey player. He was nice. He was nice.
He was like when he got with Brady he was nice.
God damn Chris Hogan.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Big discourse was created over the weekend when Draft Expert
tweeting lots of double taps and hitches from your door today,
NFL defenders closed windows quickly.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
This was a concerning workout.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Uh uh.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Andre Cisco said, boy better start patting the ball? Were
breaking all that early? But Darius Slayton jumped in and said,
I promise he can pack the ball. Just find if
a dB was so good at breaking on the ball
and passed, they'd have eight plus picks a year. Same
guys that followed the two man dagger concept and give
up digs a third and long every season, all season long.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Talking about boy patted the ball? What a joke? I said,
the exact same thing.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I said, the exact same thing, right, all the all
the all the all the expert, the dbach or the
Patna drive on that and listen, they not driving on nothing, man,
stop playing. This is a time and game. It's always
been a time and game. It always has been. Quarterbacks
have been patting the ball since the beginning of time.
It just it's a part. It's a part of rhythm.
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It's a part of rhythm throwing. Sometimes you hit, sometimes
you don't. Sometimes you pat, sometimes you don't. Sometimes the
pat is for the timing of the actual throw, waiting
for the receiver to get open.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
It's a part. It's a part of the rhythm.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
When you when you're playing, when you throw, hey, when
you're unk, when you when when John l Way throw
that skinny route, right, yeah, he hit that seventh When
you hit that seventh.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Step, the ball is gone. Yes, I play like that.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
There's no hitching, there no pack because the ball is
coming out your time.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Right. You got a dig route, you got a curl route.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
There's a pat on the ball if you get to
that fifth step, if you're not at your break yet,
it just is on the the corner route, the deep ball.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
When you hit that seven step, you got playoff.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Hit.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
You're taking fire. You're taking five with a hitch.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And my point exactly, whoever, whoever, whoever that was for
one we talk about, we talk about it in shorts,
and we talk about on air.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Turn on the goddamn film.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Watch all thirty two NFL quarterbacks on drop back passes.
You'll see all of them take hitches. He'll see all
of them past the ball. It's a part of the
game and always has been. That's called nick picking, trying
to find something wrong to say, and then you loud
and wrong, you loud and wrong.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Well, I'm well hopefully that everybody go get their chance
to see. But oh Joe, at this point in juncture,
everybody's trying to find fault, oh something.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
You know he's not.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
He's getting his head round too quick before the break.
Dv's gonna take key on that. He's not dropping his heels.
He's doing this. He's telling it the route. He's leaning
to the route as the dB. I you know, I
get it. I get it. I get it just from me.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Look you hope, like oh Shore, the way I look
at it, game film is the most important.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
If I'm looking at the game, if I'm looking at
a guy's game tape, I'm watching now. If he looks
fast when he goes to the comfouine, I hope he
runs fast.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I hope he's quick. I hope he jumps high.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So now that that cooperates what I've seen on tape.
Right now, if there's something that that I see on
tape that I don't see when he tests, I got
to go back and evaluate. Okay, what did I miss
something on Joe? What if I miss it?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Then?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Because at the end of the day, I still believe
tape is the most important. And I give you a
prime example, Ozzie, he took Terreil Suggs. Reil Suggs ran
four eight with track, spikes and a jock.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I say, o, how you take this man with a
top ten pick? And he ran four eight?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
And he looks me damn by turning on the family
when somebody got them twenty four sacks. Somebody got the
twenty four sacks, he said, Son, you watch him bend
the edge.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
You don't understand quick?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I said, okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
And look, why would I argue with Ozsie? Look at
the hall of famers.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
He's got Ray Lewis, Jonathan Augnda, Hen reed Son's gonna
be a Hall of Famer. Lamar Jackson's gonna be a
Hall of Famer Marshall Yanda's gonna be a Hall of Famer.
So I mean, what we what do we do with here? Yeah,
at the end of the day, wash the tape? Do
you see what? What do you see on tape? Are
there some things everybody has thinks that it shuld crook?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I'm y'all think it seemed like Peyton and Tom and everybody.
There's something you can get better at. But to say
a guy is lawless, it's just not true.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
No, not at all, not at all. You can listen.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
You can break down people's tape right now. You can
break down people's tape right now that are in the league,
that are some of the best at their positions right now,
and you can find flaws in their game.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Absolutely, you can find. All you have to do is nitpick.
You can.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
You can nick pick on any and everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
There was always something to continue to work on, no
matter how long you've been playing this game, because you
will never be perfect, no matter how much you strive
for you strive for perfection, you will always fall short
because you're human and they will always be human error
in everything that you do. So I listen, I understand
what the guy was saying with the scout whoever, whoever
tooted that out, I don't think they really understand that
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the game of football in general before making that general statement.
When all quarterbacks do this, they all do based on
the based on the play, based on the length of
the route.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
I mean, just it made no sense.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
It was so funny to see Michael going back and
forth and Darius Slayton, I'm talking traad.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
That was that was funny.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
And and and most of the time the quarterback they
have the ball with how many times you see the.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Quarterback bringing the ball over one head and throw it.
They bringing the ball up here like this here don
chow exactly. And and then that that rhythm throw is
a pack and let it go, Yes, a pack and
let it go now.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Just to keep the time and contuity of the play going,
like you know.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Smoke route, a slag quick out. You can't get it
like that, damn sure going to it's coming it's coming out.
It's coming out right away. And Benny curly and outside too.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yes, yes, you're absolutely right, because when you're throwing one, two,
three balls gotta go uh huh cause them now they
driving on that now.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Yeah, And the funny and the funny thing about it.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Think about it.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
We talking about the good dvs in the NFL. Them
first three the first three steps, and they not even
looking at the receiver. They looking at the quarterback exactly,
they looking at the quarterback. So once once that arm
is gone, the bu'st why the bust? What ball placement
is so important because the good and not even looking
at the receiver until after that fourth or fifth step,
that's how you that's how we get him on the
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slugo because you do this yeas in the backfield, playing
around and not throwing your heads or they get the
stud the stutter go because you went it and he
drop his hep and the quarterback does that.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Hey as in DV when they double movie, you better
have hell of and hips in transition.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Oh yeah, no, just tackle it, beautiful hips to transition.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Just tackle it.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Just tackle it because because what he's gonna because what
he's gonna do is that he knows. Once you know
he be you start to come up, he's gonna get
he go get outside. He's gonna get outside, your brother,
So you might just hay tackle him.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
If you're with it.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I'm not giving it I'm not giving up anything. I'm
not giving up anything cheap or deep. But I Tharty threw. Look,
I don't really take anything from anybody throwing the ball
in shorts and and thing, because that's not how you
play the game of football.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Right, What did when you watch the guy in shorts?
Speaker 5 (38:04):
No?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Is he Lamar Jackson. As far as the athleticism, no,
does he have a Patrick Mahomes's arm. Note, but he
has an arm that's plenty good enough. Are you telling
me that, Tom Brady? Are you telling me Peyton Manning?
Are you telling me Philip Rivers? Are you telling me
Drew Brees or more athletic than you do it?
Speaker 3 (38:22):
No? Than not?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
No, And they got it done. I'm not saying he's
gonna be any of those guys. But we're talking about
just athleticism.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
I mean, there ain't no guy I mean with this.
I mean, is he accurate? Could Kennedy?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
He's not just accurate. He's insanely accurate, exactly, insanely can
throw every ball, and every ball he throws is catchable. Yes,
they got some receivers, I mean some. They got some
quartbacks out there. You know, throughout the years now they've
thrown a very difficult ball to catch. I agree all
I number four who your brother played for. You know,
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tearing people hands up, splitting the web of their fingers,
you know that.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
I mean he was a gunslinger.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
That that's what he was known for. But you're doing
is extremely accurate.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
He does a great job of thought and has great
anticipatory skills. Kills, Yes, great job. Got a great job
of throwing guys open. That's that's the difference between college
and the nflayer Right, even when you think the guy
is an open, you throw it open. Well, guy ain't
gonna be running or having no. Five and ten and
three yard separation. In the NFL, it's a plow coverage,
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the guy falls down or something. But most of the
time you're gonna have to fit a ball into a
tight window.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
And also something he doesn't get credit for. We always
bring up him not being a dual threat, not being
able to run, but his pocket presence, his pockety, has
great pocket presence and his ability in short area quickness
to be able to extend plays, not get away from
people like Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, but extend plays
to make throws downfield.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
He's been.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
He's very good at that, especially if you if you
watch obviously we watch Colorado all last year, and we
understand that despite all the sacks he took because miss
we know one of the issues obviously with them was
their own.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Live wasn't very good.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, ain't ain't nowhere around at old Joe's offensive line
wasn't very good. It's not like it's not like we're
breaking news. You watched the game. There are some times
that he's gonna have to know, he's gonna have to
throw the ball away. Yeah, you gonna have to throw them.
You just throw the ball away. You live to see
another day.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You don't want to take that unnecessary punishment, and you
don't want to take your team out of field goal.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Range, or you don't want to make it third and
long or second along. Hey, throw the ball away. Live
to see another day. And that's comes with the maturity.
I mean, the guy's only years of eight, twenty two
years of age. Yeah, so it takes time and he'll
get better. The Peyton manning that you saw, the great
quarterbacks that you saw the rookie season, there weren't that
the midway through and at the tail end of their career,
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they were better. We get better.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
You learn more. Once you come to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
You start studying tape, you start watching, you pick up things,
and you self a valuate yourself.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
That's what the really great was do and they'll value
they self. Evaluate yourself. Liked and that's who covered me.
But I tipped off this route.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
But think about think about the names that you just said,
that Tom Brady, the Peyton Mannings when they first started,
where their years weren't exceptional as opposed to how they
ended up.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
The saction doing done to go somewhere right.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
You see how he talked in that person, what he said,
whoever seriously about me and won the franchise chain in quarterback?
Speaker 6 (41:26):
That's who needs to sign me? Who said he didn't
come in and have a season like c. J. Shroud did?
Depending on where he goes, who say nothing, come in
and have.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
A season like Jaydon and Daniels did with the Commanders,
depending on where you know, depending on where he goes.
But what if he has that belief where his presence
alone heidens everything else around him.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Who they gave him.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Go to the Commanders and turn the franchise around just
like that in six months they goes to Houston and
turns the texts around in six months.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
Yep, come on, man, ain't no freak, Ain't no telling
what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
But hey, let's just give him an opportunity. Let's see
what Let's see where he goes hopefully goes someplace and
has a good offici coordinator, good head coach, have great
talent around him. Because if you go back and look,
oh yo, what did take? What did CEJ have around him?
Nico Collins tat Dale, Yeah, had Dalton Schultz. Yeah, nice
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tight end. You get Jaye Daniels, had a nice feet. Hey,
they had zach Ertz that had Terry m scared. Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Uh huh, well, well listen, I like that. You just
broke them down. Now, look at the places that he
had the chance to go to. We got the Browns, right,
got an Joe coul We got we got Jerry Judy,
we got my rock runner. I'm not I'm not sure.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Who the number two is. Who's the number two receiver?
Speaker 2 (42:57):
I forget the Goud I know you're talking about he
was okay, uh, but you know they once they moved
on from Amari, right, I forget the guy's names.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
I can't remember. I can't remember myself.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
But then okay, let's say if if let's say it's
not Cleveland, let's say the Giants, you got Malague, Namels.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yep and Dari. I think Slaton is still there too, right.
We were just arguing on, you know, with Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, you know, come on, come on now, come on,
that we could we can, we can work with that.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I just think the thing is that sometimes we have
false perceptions that we think the guy coming in and
should be a finished product and that's the best he's
gonna be now, And they don't realize that these guys.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Have the opportunity to get better.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
That's not the best, that that shouldn't be the best
that they that they that they are. They should uh
incrementally get better. And you work at it, you study,
you put the time in. Good things normally happen. So
uh what is Elijah Moore?
Speaker 6 (44:03):
Oh, Elijah Moore?
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Elijah, they got him?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
I think they got him Clemson.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
You can run some routes now, he got Cardinals. Huh.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Cedric Tillman, Where did Cedria Tillman come from?
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Said Tillman? I played with a guy named Cedria Tillman
who went to Alcorn State.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Hey, I know Elijah Moore is where he can run
some routes bro Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's smaller, smaller guy,
good in the slots, but Jerry Judy is tremendous in
that slot.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Jered Judy.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I was happy for Jerry yeah yeah a head of
the season because look, he wasn't getting the opportunities.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
They didn't have the quarterback. He go frustrated. I think
the thing is like when you it's easy when you're
a young receiver. Oh, you to get down because the
man start bulling you. Coach just pull you playing time,
and all of a sudden, you normally playing forty five plays,
you play at twenty. Well, how the hell you expect
me to show you something in twenty plays when uh
uh at least five of those the quarterbacks are gonna
get flushed. Yeah, another another five. I'm not the number
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one option. I might be I might not even be
the second option. I might be third option and second
and two of those gonna be screened. He's gonna get
sacked on another three. So how the hell you expect
me to do something? Which when he plays and I'm
really only involved in about seven of them.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Mm A hey, I'm excited, man.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
I can't wait for football season.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
But like it.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
When is the draft? The draft next week?
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Yeah? He was there. He was there last year. Jamorrow,
He's not there anymorrow.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Joe he got last year because I remember him catching
a catching a couple of passes against the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
That's what the name.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
But okay, uh, Jerry, Judy, Cedric Tillman, and some guy
named Michael Woods obviously, and Joe who's there.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Yeah, okay, what hell? We could work with that too.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
We're good. Were good, We work with that.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Form.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Julio Jones one of the best
players in franchise history.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
I now retirement from the NFL.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Jones a seven time Pro Bowl selection a two time
first team All Pro selection. During his thirteen NFL seasons,
he twice led the NFL in receiving yards twenty fifteen
to twenty eighteen, and he's the Falcons all time leader
in receptions eight hundred and forty eight receiving yards twelve
eight hundred and ninety six. His sixty receiving touchdowns mark
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second in Falcons history behind Roddy White, how will you o,
Joe remember Julio.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Well, Julio Jones one of the best to ever played
this game.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Now now we talk, we talk about top five, we
talk about top listen might be might be top five
honestly to come out of Alabama. Man, one of the
greatest ever. I enjoyed watching Julio play.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Somebody.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
It's so funny, right watching Julio Jones play. There's a
there's a young fellow down there at Ohio State that's
from Miami who looks just like even Oh yeah, Jeremiesh Smith,
who might be the second coming of Julio Jones.
Speaker 6 (47:12):
But man, Julio.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Julio was awesome to watch man throughout his entire career.
Some of the things he could do on the field
of that three hundred yard game he had against the
Carolina Panthers was unbelievable. When he snatched that guy there
in ball off the top of Luke Luke Cuekley head
at that time, when he snatched that.
Speaker 6 (47:28):
Ball away from Malcolm Butler in the end zone for
that touch.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, there's some great highlights of Julio Jones. Pulio, I
know you're gonna see this boy. I've always been a
fan of yours. I've always showed you your love and
gave you your flowers while he was actually still playing.
I'm still a fan to this day. You're gonna get
you that gold jacket because you're definitely a Hall of
Famer and you top five in my book. You know,
I would have to shuffle the five round a little bit,
(47:53):
but you belong in it. I salute you in a
great career. And uh that's it. You think he nice, amazing,
consummate pro, had a great career.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
I wish he could have finished his career in Atlanta comes,
you know, bouncing around, no show. He went to, well,
he went to I think he went to He went
to Tennessee after he left that right, Yeah, to Tennessee, Tampa, to.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
Tampa, and he went to New England, Philly, Philip. Yeah, man,
he had a man.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
If only, if only they could have closed out that
Super Bowl three game, and he had he had an
amazing catch that had him at field goal right on.
Speaker 6 (48:38):
The sideline, right on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Yeah see.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Bushati, owner of the Raven Ravens, said he's ready for
his team to break through the ceiling and make it
to the biggest game of the year.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Bashadi said he doesn't like.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Waiting twelve years and he thinks impatience is good for
you when it comes to competing for titles. He also
made it clear I want to win. Now we've got
a winder with Lamar. I know what we can do.
I know that we worked to put ourselves in position
to win. We all get credit for that. That's all
you can do. I hate it that every year you
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just have to start back over again. But you know what,
this is not for the meek. The Chiefs Bills have
ended the Raven season last year. What would be different
this year?
Speaker 3 (49:25):
O Joe?
Speaker 6 (49:26):
I mean, listen, it all comes down to two things.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Turnovers.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
That's all it comes down to in those games when
they've lost, even though they've been able to overcome. Lamar's
been able to overcome some of the turnovers, early turnovers.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
In the game.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Later game obviously we know how it ended with Andrew
dropping the ball and have an opportunity to tie the game,
not knowing what would happen going into the second half
or overtime at that point. But still listen about him,
saying Bashadi in general saying he's impatient. He wants to
win now. As long as you have number eight at
the hem, as long as they haven't made in him,
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you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
Always have a chance.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Every time there are a few quarterbacks in the league.
They're thirty two teams. There may be five or six
quarterbacks that are going to be in contention every single year.
You can have a goddamn blind right, I guarantee it
will get in the playoffs. The Baltimore Ravens is one
of them. His longest Number eight is upright alive, and well,
(50:24):
you got a shot every time. Now, all you have
to do is just finish it off in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (50:28):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Eliminate the turnovers that's been your Achilles hill so far.
Once you made it so they think they're gonna be alright,
they're gonna be alright. He has nothing to worry about.
Just the simple fact that the AFC North has run
through Cincinnati. That's the only problem. No, oh Joe, check
this out. Lamar Jackson is challenging NASCAR legend Dale R.
(50:49):
Hart Junior from the Number eight trademark. Lamar says it's
too close to Era eight brand name.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Jackson fired a similar trademark opposition to Troit eight minute
twenty twenty four, and they're still battling.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Oh Joe Lamar Versus Dale Jr. Who owns the number eight.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Oh Man, listen deal Dale Junior. We talked about an icon,
talking about the icon in the in the in the
racing world.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Uh, someone that's been around for a very long time, Listen,
Lamar Jackson still has a ways to go. He's an
icon in his own right. And what he's doing down
in Baltimore as a quarterback in general, you know, he's
continuing to seement his legacy at some point. Once he
gets that, once he gets that ring, he's going to
solidify that. Still one of the all time greats right now.
(51:36):
But but that ad that earon hart a unk Dale,
it's different. I mean, it's so hard that that that
ain't represents something else that's that's it's iconic.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
It's hard that last name alone. Uh.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
I mean when it comes to a number, the only
number that you that's anonymous is twenty three.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
Yeah, yeah, he's twenty three.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
That's really the only number that's anonymous with Look, I
understand that Davey retired, you know, Magic was thirty three
in college, But Kareem had thirty three, and so he
slid to thirty two and boom, Shaq was thirty What
was Shaq? Shaq was thirty two in Orlando, but he
ended up going to thirty four. So I get it.
But when you think the numbers mm hmm, yeah, it's
(52:26):
gonna be hard. I mean, you know, I think Troy
Aidman got a beer called I think he has a
beer called eight or something.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
If I'm not mistaken, I think he does. Oh yeah,
I think he has a beer.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I think I think I mean, don't quote me on
that on Joe, but I think I was reading something
that he has a beer called eight.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Hell, I got my phone over here, I'll look it up.
It's e I. G. T. H. Yes, he does have
a beer called eight. Yeah, yep, low car, low caliber.
Speaker 6 (53:00):
You know, it's something.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
It's it's certain players like when you see their number,
when you see a certain yea, a certain player resonates
for this number of regards of what team, regards of
the color of a jersey. You know, I ain't trying
to two mow on home. Yeah, but when you see
when you see eighty five for for the for the
most part, I think the Curtis resonates.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Oh that's show.
Speaker 6 (53:22):
Oh Betsy, I'm just saying. I listen, I'm with you right.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
When you see that twelve, you know it resonates with
you know, Tom Brady, when you see fifteen for the
for the most part, even though he's still playing.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
You know, you think of Pastrion.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Yeah you Anne, you know what not in nine eels
the Great One, gret Ski.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
The great one. Oh wait, listen, as great as he is,
there's only three goals away. You know that matter three
three three?
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yeah, but a the great well when he gets nine
hard trophies, get a road talk to me.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah, okay, it's different, Hey speaking, I think Obie. I
think Obie were Ovaxxanquar eight two, Lamar Jackson has. Lamar
Jackson's one of those players. As he continues to play
and play well throughout his career, whether he wins, whether
he wins a rink or not, that number eight can
resonate with him when he's when he's gone and done playing,
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that number eight can also resonate Yah and remembering him.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, you know, look, we're not saying anything, but the
first thing is somebody say ninety nine I'm thinking Gretzky,
so I think give me the famous ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
I'm gonna thank Gretzky.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
Now you wanna say if you're a Yankee fan, you
want to say Aaron Judge, or you're a Bucks fan.
I know, Sap, sap, my boy sap. Yeah, but come on, now,
come on now.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah, hold on, I thought I thought Dale Junior was
eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
How did he get why? Why? Why? If Dale won't
I thought Dale Junior drove drove to eighty eight? Are
eighty eight? If too close to eight?
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Hold on, well, hold on, Lamar says, era eighty eight.
It is too close to era eight.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Oh maybe maybe maybe the maybe the spelling, maybe the
way it's spelled. I mean I can't see it in
front of me, you know, for for contact purposes. He said,
e r A e r A eight Era eight, okay,
eighty I don't know, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
That's that's a stretch there. Yes, it's kind of close.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
And usually when you when you trademark something, you wanted
to stand the yesself and that that that that those
two it kind of coincides a little bit, and it's yeah,
two similar.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Let me see what I got of luck. Lookle bits
up Jojo, because I know his dad was the number three.
Speaker 6 (56:16):
Oh yeah, legend.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
No, he drove, he drove eighty eight and he drove
eight mm hmm. I think the eight eight car was
all white.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
I'm not sure who the sponsor was. I remember it
was all white. I can't remember who the sponsors were
at the time. You know, I hadn't been to a
few NASCAR races. On you've been a NASCAR It sat outside, listen.
That's one of the that's one of the best dates.
When you first meet somebody and you want to do
something different, something that obviously the woman you're dating has
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never experienced. Take it to a NASCAR Take it to
a NASCAR race and sit outside.
Speaker 3 (56:57):
Man, they don't like that. I don't know if they
could take that noise. Joe.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Hey, hey, it's different, but put your ear plugs in
if that's the problem.
Speaker 6 (57:08):
It's different. It's different.
Speaker 3 (57:09):
It's fun.
Speaker 6 (57:09):
Get you get your hot dog, gets your beer.
Speaker 3 (57:11):
Obviously I don't drink. I have my coconut, get my
hot dog, you know, popcorn.
Speaker 6 (57:15):
Sat there.
Speaker 3 (57:15):
A great conversation, you know, watch it, watch the cars going.
But that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
But it's just a great date for anybody in the
chat that that that one idea on what it takes
somebody that they just met, somebody that you already know
NASCAR race.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
If she can't sit there with you, she.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
Don't deserve nothing, none of the finer things in life,
and she don't like NASCAR.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
They all have trademark eight, not eighty eight. Okay, so
he tried to I don't Oh, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
Troy has trademark eight. Its spelled out.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
I mean, numbers are hard to trademark, O Joe, because
they're like, well, who they're blowing to you ain't created. Yeah,
it's hard to trademark a number. I mean slogans like
the three. Pat pat Riley owns that. When he coined
the phrase, he got top of righted, Yeah, Louke, Louke,
I was heard here. Lou will tell the story what
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you know he got Hey. I'm just happy that he
liked the name. That's it.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
I have.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
I was just being funny, you know, because you know
we were talking about we go get the wings, O Joe.
Speaker 3 (58:45):
Yeah. And I'm still I'm still a waiting us to
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Speaker 3 (02:49):
What are you at the next level both? Just like
you saw me play, you want to do both? How
many snaps in a football game? Can you play all
of them? As they gave me a chance to the
opportunity to do.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
It and one of so we were talking about the
challenges that that come with it. You got to be
an offense into meetings, you gotta be in defensive meetings.
You gotta be in wide receiver meetings, you got to
be in defensive back meetings. How is there enough time
to do all that? How did you prepare for that
when you play college?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Well, we kind of got twenty four hours in the day.
We probably sleep for by eight and mil so we
probably got a team more dedicated to the I'm dedicated
to football, Oh, Joe.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The issue is not playing both of them? Can you
play both of them?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Well? Right? Right?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Because I can put anybody there to play both sides,
But how well can they play it?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Listen? That's it. There's a difference. There's levels.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
There have been great guys in college that couldn't play
at that next right, And you're asking you because see,
for me, it don't do him, no for me, for
him to go out there like, oh, he playing both sides?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Right? Oh? How well will he play both sides of
the ball?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
That's the question. Do I believe he gonna play every snap? No, No,
he's not. You know what I like? I like to believe.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I like the fact that he believes he can actually
do it most of the time. That's where it all starts.
In anything you do in life, believing that you can
do it, manifesting not only doing that, not only believing
it and manifesting it then working your way into actually.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Being able to do it.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Hasn't been done before, absolutely not, which is why they
used to play both ways back back sixties.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think Chuck McCarrick rested, so was the last two
way player. He was a middle linebacker and a center
for the Eagles. He was the last full time two
way players. Concrete Charlie, and I think.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
One of the reasons why me and you and everyone.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Else is debuckleing, hit debunking his ability to play full
time on both sides of the ball is because of
how much extreme what's the word I'm looking for here.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
It's a physical grind because guess what, he plays both
sides of the ball. He gets hurts to miss a game.
Guess what I've got, I'm down two players.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Yeah, that that that too. Listen, I listen.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I like.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I like the confidence though, sure that's part of it.
That's half the bat is believe.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Everything you do, believing you can do it.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Not what I do.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
What I would love for him to do is you
got to focus on one You got to focus on
one thing. You got to be You got to be
great at one thing. You're not gonna be able to
grade at both. You can't be great at dB and
great at receiver. You have to become a craftsman at
one or the other. Now I don't know which one
is gonna be I'm me personally. I like him playing both.
(05:49):
I enjoy it. I enjoy watching him play both sides
of the ball. Will he be able to do it
at that level, at an elite level, at the next level,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
That's very, very difficult.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
When you look at the let the talent you're gonna
have to see week in and week out.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
That's the hard part.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
At the level, the level, the level, the level field evens.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Everything. There are a lot of guys that just as
talented as he is.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Wait say it again, I said.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
There are guys that just as talented.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Justice talent, there's something that are even more talented.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Everyone in Jay, everyone in just as fast everyone Justice quick,
ladder movement, short air quickness. No matter what you everything,
everybody is exactly the same. There's one thing that separates everybody,
your technique, and up here it becomes the mental game.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
At that point. I like it though.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
It's exciting.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'm curious to see where he goes, and not only
where he goes, but what they allow him to do.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
How are they going to use him? People tell me
they don't hit in the NFL. Yeah they do, they do.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Please, I know I know. I know the rules have
changed a little bit. You know, they can't hit like
they did during our day, but they still hit that.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
They still hit it. I tell you you know what
I wish.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I wish all the fans that say they don't hit,
they would side a waiver and go out there.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
It's no no no no no no okay, who's.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
The who's the safety? Okay? GJ.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Watt it's no, no no no, oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
They said they don't hit, so I want them to
go out there.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's one thing to watch the game from the stands.
It's one thing to watch the game of football from TV,
but put on to put on some pads as a
fan and not understanding how fast the game is and
how fast mofos is moving.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Man, don't do that.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You you play that, you played, you played eleven years.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I played fourteen years. I understand a collision.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And people see everybody thinks something easy if you've never done.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It, or maybe they maybe they have, maybe they have
done it. When we talk about pee wee, high school, college, pro.
But it's different, it's different. There's levels to this. As
you go up, you play flag and you play popcorn.
We pop bor or whatever you want to call it.
Then you go to JV, you go to high school,
(08:28):
you go to college. Now there is no higher level
than the NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
So all the people say, look the NFL, hey will
allow you to play. We want you to signe this waiver.
Whatever position you want to play. If you will want
to play running back, you want to play wilde running back.
Way I want to play cornerback. If they want to please,
and so, no, jo not the game. We're gonna Hey,
we're gonna have practice. Okay, who you want.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
To go up by?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So you won't frayd Water, you won't zire Frankly, you
won't wro con Lo. Okay, you won't pass, you won't
Jalen Ramsay, you won't sting it.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Talk about who do you want? Who do you want
to guard? Who do you want to go on? Forgets?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Now, wait just one time and we'll think. Okay, now
tell me what you think. You think they're still hitting NFL.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And you know what, people's perspective on the game won't
change until they're actually in that situation. It's a situation
hypothetically speaking, they will never be in. Therefore, that's why
they comment the way they do from the outside looking in.
That's why they tore it down on players the way
they do, because they've never been in that position. They
don't understand how difficult it is. So it's easy to talk,
(09:44):
you know, from the couch or if you watch the
game in your studying the game and have never actually
played it to understand how difficult it is. I don't
think people really understand how great Saint Kwon Barkley is.
Forget the number of these prut it up. I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I don't they get it.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
They don't underst Jackson and Josh Allen, all these dudes
that you talk about, you know, on Twitter and accent.
They don't understand how good these dudes are.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh, I'm not saying that you can't catch, but I'm
saying catch the ball where a dude gonna drill you.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
We have to focus. Yeah, you have to focus. We
have to lock it on the ball, bring it in. Man.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Man, there's so many that man.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Man, hey, oh Joe, they don't hit no more. I'll
tell you what.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
We're gonna hand the ball off and we're gonna block it,
just like we put. If that was Derrick Henry or
sat quan running the football. We're not gonna turn him
loose on you. We're gonna block it all the same.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Mind you remember this, and when they block it all
the same, there's always one free man that the running
back has.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Absolutely because the quarterback is not blocking anybody. Always one
man at the court that the running back has to be.
And that's your man. You got to beat him on
your own. It's different man, and you got on pads.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I mean you, you're not used to joking nobody.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
As a matter of fact, you see the guy from
the Hawks, they had the two guys that he went
to lay the ball up.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And the end up tearing the knee for real.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Yes, you sal.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
About like that and had five Yes they have you
already had the competition.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You gotta make so many points. One gallon one end.
One got on the other end. They gave five four three.
He got the ball with the layer up, ring him
up out of in a wheelchair.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
That's funny.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
What's what's the thing is thought you.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I don't think people realize when people like, well, damn man,
you bigger than that. Though you don't look that big. Hell,
I'm small compared to a tight end and then you
multiply that I got running full speed. If you ain't
never been used to taking no hit, or you haven't
(12:00):
taken a hit in a while, you're not taking not
at all. Because as I got older, I didn't want
to look.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I was a guy. Ay, I would take a lik,
I would pay. Okay, I'm right back up.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
If I got old, I started getting year twelve thirteen fourteen,
I put that blink on joey oh yo, our.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Head right on up out the boy. I ain't taking
that licked the I'm good. Listen.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
As you get older, you get by the year ten
and on, you make business business decisions.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Absolutely, Hey, put that blink on, head on out of bound. Hey,
turn it up now, I'm good. Hey, if hey on, Joe,
your second to one. If we can't get second or
one thirty one dollars, somebody's wrong. Something started laying the
ball game for him down, something like that. Okay, god
can hey, I got too. Hey back in the day
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on Joe, two guys coming, Okay, you.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Over here, you over here, okay, sit him go over
the cow.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I thank you the lesson of the danger. Let me
get you, let me get you. I will get y'all
back inside. That's a problem.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You not a problem.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
But I'm anxious. I'm really anxious to see Travis Gibbor
the go playing both sides. It's important where he goes on.
It's very very, very very very important where he goes.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And I hope the team that drafts him understands his beliefs,
understands his wants, and they use him in that manner
because he's an exciting player.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
He's a generational talent, and.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
They need to be able to use him in a
manner so he's able to display that at the next
level the same way he did at Colorado.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'm not so sure it's not more of a mental
than a physical focus, because you have to be on
your a game all the time, especially on defense because
cause you know, sometimes the wide receivers you're not getting
the ball, so I ain't really got to focus.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I ain't saying throw them in the ball. I'm laughing
at the progression.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
But as a defensive player, as a d as a corner,
you lie, you have one slip, o Joe, you hesitate
a little.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Bit, You got smell the strike up the band.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
That's it and now you coming. Hey, you hey, and
what everybody do. I think you ever touched that what
they do with Joe. Then look up back to Joe
but Trump, Yeah, that's you, that's you. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah you did that. We just saw that. Yeah, when
you look at him there yet. But I'm askeious to
see what he can do. He believes he can do it.
Uh do I believe he can play every snap offensive defense?
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I don't do. I think he can play one side
and then the half packages. I believe it's easier if
he's a dB for them to install packages at the
wire position.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I believe that's easier. But let him try it.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, I like it, I think, And you draft you're
drafting him knowing that's what he wants to do.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
One of the reasons he went with Time. Time told
him he would let him do it. I'll let you
do whatever you can do. He showed Time he could
do it. He did it.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
He won the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
One of the great seasons of the wide receiver had
but thirteen fourteen hundred yards a dB. He had a
bunch of pass breakups, had a forest bumber, key interceptions,
good tackler.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Oh, he gonna come up and tackle too.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Let's see what he can do.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
No, no problem whatsoever given I think you got to
get I think you have to give him that because
deep down, because now he gonna feel some type of way.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Oh yeah, you already knew you already listen, knew what
I wanted before I got here. I expressed my interest
in it. I said it over and over and over
countless times.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
And you bring me in.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You draft me this high wherever it may be, and
then when I get here, you tell me, well, we
don't thank you. You know how they play that game. Well,
we don't thank you. Well, we we think you're better
suit that. Come on, now, don't play that game.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Nobody tell me he would love that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So where do you think he goes O Joe oh Man,
what do you think, trap?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Cleveland, the Giants, I don't know, because listen, when you
talk about Cleveland, they need a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
When we talk about the Giants, they need a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So I don't think any any in those two teams
are not passing up on your door.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Or cam Ward.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Now, I listen, somebody might come up from low and
surprise us on draft day and come and grab a
quarterback early and then it freeze up to your door
somewhere else. We keep forgetting were not even talking about
that dude, Carter Hell, who's to say he don't go first?
You know, you just don't know, especially with those four.
(16:58):
Ain't no telling how it's going to go. But I
know he's gonna go in the top five. I just
don't nowhere And who knows what's going to happen on draft.
They with some other team and some conversation that they
might that they might feel a player is up there
that might be a generational talent and a franchise changing
player to them, and they go up and snatch them
and change the draft.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
All the way up.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
According to Adam Shefter, the Browns are more likely to
pick Travis Hunter at two in the draft. He impressed
Cleveland at his pro day. The Browns are exploring a
potential taking Travis Hunter at two, been trading back into
the first round to land Jalen Milroe. It's possible that
Melroe could be picked around there with their second pick,
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but it would be gambling and in the season with
Kenny Pickett FQB one, Milroe was invited and he has
accepted an invitation to the NFL Draft.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
You think, is he Milroe has a chance to go
in the first round.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
You think that's what they're saying. Oh Joe, It's just
I don't like that, man.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I don't like when they I don't like when they
bring players in and have them sitting there like that
all day and ain't no telling where you're going to go.
It's not it's not for certain you're going in the
first round. They put the camera on you where everybody's
getting picked.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
That's embarrassing to me, man, I would be caught right.
Let me tell you why I'm calling Hans. I'm cautious
because I watched Anthony Richardson, and I watched a supremelygue
guy that size, run four or five, four or four whatever,
he ran, jump out of the gym. Well, he's a
fifty fus percent completion guy in college. M College, NFL
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is harder to get completions than they end up.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Ben caught if you're fifty in college. You see he
was forty six. Richardson was forty six. There are times
I'm looking at mirror, I'm like, bro, what what was that?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Now?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I'm not saying that with some time. But how much
time are you gonna grab it? Cause you go into Cleveland, Bro,
they're gonna need you to be at at least by
year two.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
We got to go.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
You're gonna need to be ready to get to go
because Jimmy and d Haslam, they look. Look, we bit
the bullet on this with the Sean. We gave up
three first round picks. One of them was c. J. Strouds,
one of them was Will Anderson ju and the other
one was tanked there.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
That's crazy, Oh, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
One was offensive Rookie of the Year, the other was
Defensive Rookie of the Year, and they both gone to
the Pro Bowl. Now we bit the bullet on Now,
we signed off on Deshan, but you brought that to us.
Now we just gave what you call them one hundred
and forty million, one hundred and sixty million whatever we
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gave Miles Miles period.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
We took raft.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
We traded back into the first round, which means that
we're probably gonna have to give up next year's first round.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Okay, listen, they've they've I mean, listen, the Browns have
been missing. Okay, the Browns have been missing for a
long time on their first round picks. They've been missing
for a long time. I know one thing, and they
can't miss if they go with TRAVISO, you can't. You
can't miss. I won't miss.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Now. They missed, they miss they missed the quarterbacks. But
you're not gonna miss there.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
So I'm ready for it to say. I'm ready for
to see how this same player I'm trying to I'm trying.
I'm tired of trying to play expert and like, oh,
he's going here, he's going there because you don't, like
you said, somebody might come zooming up the draft board
because somebody like, oh, he ain't get the leg that
I can get him here. We're about to find out.
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The Dolphins are reportedly growing increasingly frustrated with Tyreek's hills
anticks on the word about the culture he's creating in
the locker room that have begun to hear teams out
potential trade scenarios, but will only act on the deal
where they feel they're getting fair value.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
In the retiring I tried to tell you this, so
you ain't want to say, oh you whoa, whoa whoa?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
You trying to tell me what?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
How about Tyreek. They were getting tired of that.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Oh well, listen, boy, it unk I think Tyreek. Tyreek
ain't slow. He's pretty smart. If you if you know
they're tired of it, and you keep on doing it,
what does that tell you he's doing it.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
On what doing it on? What do you think you
do it on purpose? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Absolutely at this point absolutely TikTok.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
You know some of the stuff he's doing.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, he the one that touched him talking about Oh
to find out your team trying to trade him. You're
the one the last game of the season you talk
about the piece out. You got to go do it's
best at you. I don't like when God, I don't
like when people become a victim in their own story.
Bill Big him in someone else's story. You can't be
a victim in a story that you created. You created this.
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You wanted out of Kansas City, a situation.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
He wanted to get paid. He wanted to get paid.
That's all you want to get paid. They wanted they
were gonna pay him. But you gotta realize Tyreek had
years left on the contract. Now, when they came to
him and they asked him what he restructed. He said, noah,
I don't believe I signed the contract.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Then the next year he wanted to redo his contract,
even though he had said he had year before he
signed the contract.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I got no problem with that.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You go to a guy that was injury prone, Oh Joe,
tell the people at home, how did the tour come
into the league?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
He left it to the league. Remember he fractured his
hip his last year. Yes, sir, he was injury prone
in college. Weren't they not nearly as physical as they
are in the NFL. So what do you think is
gonna happen? Oh Joe, excuse You're gonna deal with some
injuries here on at the next level.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
That's what he's had to deal with.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So now and then you gonna look, I get it.
You know you a but you tried to sell us.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
You tried.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
You ain't nobody to believe that tour was on my
homes level. Not his accuracy, not being able to throw,
none of that. Okay, you want to hype your quarterback up.
You're like, hey, I believe in it. We get all
of that. You played the wide receiver position. I started
wide receiving the tight end. I get it. I want
to give my guy confidence. Let you know, I believe it,
but I'm trying to figure out. Oh Joe, what is it?
(23:29):
Like you said, his first year there, he was second
in the league in receiving the first third, second year there,
first year there, he was second in the league of receiving.
The next year to there, he was one of the
few guys that's ever had eighteen hundred receiving yard. Last year,
he was nick it got off to a bastard. It
started the first game of the season. I show with
the traffic stopped me so for it.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
So on. I don't really know what happened.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Behave bro I, Oh, I just don't get these guys.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
You never know what's gonna happen all that, all that
stuff is going on. You know, Tyreek is not happy.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Obviously, He's continues to do what he does on social media,
probably trying to egg on the trade and in that
manner in a fun and entertaining way, you know, using TikTok.
Then you have the draft coming up on Ain't no
telling what's gonna happen Draft Day, Ain't no telling, So
you know something something might happen there. You know, it
changed things up I'm just like, that's what's so exciting
(24:25):
to me because you just don't know. Yeah, you just
don't know. There's nobody for certain. You know what, he
was so great in college. He's absolutely going number one.
You just don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, uh who you talking about going number one one?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Man? Oh oh you're talking about understanding? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
You just you just you don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It could be.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Listen, Tennessee need Tennessee need the quarterback, don't they Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I mean I don't know, man, ain't no telling. I
think the thing is O Joe, this is what we say.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, no matter how greate you are, they'll move your
yes and they'll fact because they're not gonna let you
become bigger than the team.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Not only bigger than the team, they won't let you
become bigger than the game itself. No, mm hmm No,
because Kansas City they traded Tyreek.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
And went the street strict roles.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
But listen, they want you got to understand why they
went to three. They got they got them. They got
that special dude over there too. They got that special
So what does that tell you?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Whide receivers ain't doing nothing without what, no matter who
he was Tyreek had a ten hundred yards, Wada had
another twelve hundred.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Did they win a playoff game? I was, I was,
I was, I was just talking about the super Bowl factor.
But I got you there.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
You but know you better have that guy to pull
that trigger. Oh yeah, you would have had you to
have him. It's because think.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
About it, all those years New England, how many how
many pro bot wide receivers they had. If you take
Randy Moss out of the equation, Wes Welker, I think
Troy Brown would no one.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
But I don't think Troy. I don't think Troy. I
could be wrong. I don't know if Troy went with Brady.
I think he went maybe a year before Brady. Maybe
I'm wrong, right, But if you go back and study it, Oh,
John damn have a whole lot of Pro Bowl wide receiver.
That's why that's why people really.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Fell in love with toal Right, Like they din't get
all these super but going to all these Super Bowls
and they got all these talking wide receiver here, wide
receiver here, wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Over there, Pro Bowl, all Pro and he doing that.
You better have that guy. It makes a difference, is
the reason they make the big Bucks.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
It makes a big thing. He's the foundation. If you
get him, Ojoe, I can build it. If I got
a solid foundation, I can put whatever I want on it.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I can. If I got a great foundation, I.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Can put a twenty thousand square foot on or I
can put a thousand square foot on my foundation solid
and it can hold it all.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
But foundation is so important in all aspects.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
To like it it is, well, you just you just
said a word, Dan, don't even know you said it.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I get Gronk was there, But y'all do realize that
Brady went to how many Super Bowls before Gronk around.
Don't do that. Don't minimize that man. Gronk is, Hey,
Gronk from me is one of the two best tight ends.
Some people got Gronk one, some people got Kelsey. I
got Kelsey.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Hey. I'll debate. I'll debate you.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Look at the regular season, look at the postseason, blah
blah blah.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
So forth the saw. But Tom, come on that. All
I know is Dion branch one super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
He went to Seattle and we never heard from him.
David Patton. Y'all know where David Patton went after he
left New England. Go back and look at the receivers
that he had early in his career. Yes, he has,
and boy when they left New England? Did you ever
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hear from them again?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
He take it? Undrafted? Y'all?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Do realize Wes Walker was an undrafted guy? Y'all do realize?
Edelman was a seventh round guy?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
What was? What? Did?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
What round? Did Amadola get drafted in? Because I think
he went to the RAM first? Ojo the RAM first?
If I'm not mistaken, that man.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Was really turned.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Look they were good players, but I don't know if
they're gonna be what they.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Became without being there. Yeah. Wow, So he was an
undrafted three eight aven Dola?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Hey, am Mindola was nice too, huh he.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
He was the Cowboys, then the Eagles, then the Rams.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
He was nice.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Get David Gibbons. Do y'all remember what David Gibbons? Once
he left New England? What about David Patton? Dion Branch
was a Super Bowl MVP. He went to Seattle. Did
y'all ever hear from him again?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah? Elima was a quarterback over Yeah I can't, I can't.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I can't say yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Just look, I don't oh yo, uh uh seven eleven.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Chris Chris Hogan, Yo got.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Oh always open Buffalo Midlands. Yes, with the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
What are you undrafted? He was like a lacrosse or
a field hockey player. He was nice. He was nice.
He was like when he got with Brady he was nice.
God damn Chris Hogan.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Big discourse was created over the weekend when Draft Expert
tweeting lots of double taps and hitches from your door today,
NFL defenders closed windows quickly.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
This was a concerning workout.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Uh uh.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Andre Cisco said, boy better start patting the ball? Were
breaking all that early? But Darius Slayton jumped in and said,
I promise he can pack the ball. Just find if
a dB was so good at breaking on the ball
and passed, they'd have eight plus picks a year. Same
guys that followed the two man dagger concept and give
up digs a third and long every season, all season long.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Talking about boy patted the ball? What a joke? I said,
the exact same thing.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I said, the exact same thing, right, all the all
the all the all the expert, the dbach or the
Patna drive on that and listen, they not driving on nothing, man,
stop playing. This is a time and game. It's always
been a time and game. It always has been. Quarterbacks
have been patting the ball since the beginning of time.
It just it's a part. It's a part of rhythm.
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It's a part of rhythm throwing. Sometimes you hit, sometimes
you don't. Sometimes you pat, sometimes you don't. Sometimes the
pat is for the timing of the actual throw, waiting
for the receiver to get open.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
It's a part. It's a part of the rhythm.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
When you when you're playing, when you throw, hey, when
you're unk, when you when when John l Way throw
that skinny route, right, yeah, he hit that seventh When
you hit that seventh.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Step, the ball is gone. Yes, I play like that.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
There's no hitching, there no pack because the ball is
coming out your time.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Right. You got a dig route, you got a curl route.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
There's a pat on the ball if you get to
that fifth step, if you're not at your break yet,
it just is on the the corner route, the deep ball.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
When you hit that seven step, you got playoff.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Hit.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
You're taking fire. You're taking five with a hitch.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And my point exactly, whoever, whoever, whoever that was for
one we talk about, we talk about it in shorts,
and we talk about on air.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Turn on the goddamn film.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Watch all thirty two NFL quarterbacks on drop back passes.
You'll see all of them take hitches. He'll see all
of them past the ball. It's a part of the
game and always has been. That's called nick picking, trying
to find something wrong to say, and then you loud
and wrong, you loud and wrong.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Well, I'm well hopefully that everybody go get their chance
to see. But oh Joe, at this point in juncture,
everybody's trying to find fault, oh something.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
You know he's not.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
He's getting his head round too quick before the break.
Dv's gonna take key on that. He's not dropping his heels.
He's doing this. He's telling it the route. He's leaning
to the route as the dB. I you know, I
get it. I get it. I get it just from me.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Look you hope, like oh Shore, the way I look
at it, game film is the most important.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
If I'm looking at the game, if I'm looking at
a guy's game tape, I'm watching now. If he looks
fast when he goes to the comfouine, I hope he
runs fast.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I hope he's quick. I hope he jumps high.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So now that that cooperates what I've seen on tape.
Right now, if there's something that that I see on
tape that I don't see when he tests, I got
to go back and evaluate. Okay, what did I miss
something on Joe? What if I miss it?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Then?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Because at the end of the day, I still believe
tape is the most important. And I give you a
prime example, Ozzie, he took Terreil Suggs. Reil Suggs ran
four eight with track, spikes and a jock.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I say, o, how you take this man with a
top ten pick? And he ran four eight?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
And he looks me damn by turning on the family
when somebody got them twenty four sacks. Somebody got the
twenty four sacks, he said, Son, you watch him bend
the edge.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
You don't understand quick?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I said, okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
And look, why would I argue with Ozsie? Look at
the hall of famers.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
He's got Ray Lewis, Jonathan Augnda, Hen reed Son's gonna
be a Hall of Famer. Lamar Jackson's gonna be a
Hall of Famer Marshall Yanda's gonna be a Hall of Famer.
So I mean, what we what do we do with here? Yeah,
at the end of the day, wash the tape? Do
you see what? What do you see on tape? Are
there some things everybody has thinks that it shuld crook?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I'm y'all think it seemed like Peyton and Tom and everybody.
There's something you can get better at. But to say
a guy is lawless, it's just not true.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
No, not at all, not at all. You can listen.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
You can break down people's tape right now. You can
break down people's tape right now that are in the league,
that are some of the best at their positions right now,
and you can find flaws in their game.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Absolutely, you can find. All you have to do is nitpick.
You can.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
You can nick pick on any and everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
There was always something to continue to work on, no
matter how long you've been playing this game, because you
will never be perfect, no matter how much you strive
for you strive for perfection, you will always fall short
because you're human and they will always be human error
in everything that you do. So I listen, I understand
what the guy was saying with the scout whoever, whoever
tooted that out, I don't think they really understand that
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the game of football in general before making that general statement.
When all quarterbacks do this, they all do based on
the based on the play, based on the length of
the route.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
I mean, just it made no sense.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
It was so funny to see Michael going back and
forth and Darius Slayton, I'm talking traad.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
That was that was funny.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
And and and most of the time the quarterback they
have the ball with how many times you see the.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Quarterback bringing the ball over one head and throw it.
They bringing the ball up here like this here don
chow exactly. And and then that that rhythm throw is
a pack and let it go, Yes, a pack and
let it go now.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Just to keep the time and contuity of the play going,
like you know.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Smoke route, a slag quick out. You can't get it
like that, damn sure going to it's coming it's coming out.
It's coming out right away. And Benny curly and outside too.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yes, yes, you're absolutely right, because when you're throwing one, two,
three balls gotta go uh huh cause them now they
driving on that now.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Yeah, And the funny and the funny thing about it.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Think about it.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
We talking about the good dvs in the NFL. Them
first three the first three steps, and they not even
looking at the receiver. They looking at the quarterback exactly,
they looking at the quarterback. So once once that arm
is gone, the bu'st why the bust? What ball placement
is so important because the good and not even looking
at the receiver until after that fourth or fifth step,
that's how you that's how we get him on the
(37:06):
slugo because you do this yeas in the backfield, playing
around and not throwing your heads or they get the
stud the stutter go because you went it and he
drop his hep and the quarterback does that.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Hey as in DV when they double movie, you better
have hell of and hips in transition.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Oh yeah, no, just tackle it, beautiful hips to transition.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Just tackle it.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Just tackle it because because what he's gonna because what
he's gonna do is that he knows. Once you know
he be you start to come up, he's gonna get
he go get outside. He's gonna get outside, your brother,
So you might just hay tackle him.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
If you're with it.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I'm not giving it I'm not giving up anything. I'm
not giving up anything cheap or deep. But I Tharty threw. Look,
I don't really take anything from anybody throwing the ball
in shorts and and thing, because that's not how you
play the game of football.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Right, What did when you watch the guy in shorts?
Speaker 5 (38:04):
No?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Is he Lamar Jackson. As far as the athleticism, no,
does he have a Patrick Mahomes's arm. Note, but he
has an arm that's plenty good enough. Are you telling
me that, Tom Brady? Are you telling me Peyton Manning?
Are you telling me Philip Rivers? Are you telling me
Drew Brees or more athletic than you do it?
Speaker 3 (38:22):
No? Than not?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
No, And they got it done. I'm not saying he's
gonna be any of those guys. But we're talking about
just athleticism.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
I mean, there ain't no guy I mean with this.
I mean, is he accurate? Could Kennedy?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
He's not just accurate. He's insanely accurate, exactly, insanely can
throw every ball, and every ball he throws is catchable. Yes,
they got some receivers, I mean some. They got some
quartbacks out there. You know, throughout the years now they've
thrown a very difficult ball to catch. I agree all
I number four who your brother played for. You know,
(39:00):
tearing people hands up, splitting the web of their fingers,
you know that.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
I mean he was a gunslinger.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
That that's what he was known for. But you're doing
is extremely accurate.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
He does a great job of thought and has great
anticipatory skills. Kills, Yes, great job. Got a great job
of throwing guys open. That's that's the difference between college
and the nflayer Right, even when you think the guy
is an open, you throw it open. Well, guy ain't
gonna be running or having no. Five and ten and
three yard separation. In the NFL, it's a plow coverage,
(39:31):
the guy falls down or something. But most of the
time you're gonna have to fit a ball into a
tight window.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
And also something he doesn't get credit for. We always
bring up him not being a dual threat, not being
able to run, but his pocket presence, his pockety, has
great pocket presence and his ability in short area quickness
to be able to extend plays, not get away from
people like Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, but extend plays
to make throws downfield.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
He's been.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
He's very good at that, especially if you if you
watch obviously we watch Colorado all last year, and we
understand that despite all the sacks he took because miss
we know one of the issues obviously with them was
their own.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Live wasn't very good.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, ain't ain't nowhere around at old Joe's offensive line
wasn't very good. It's not like it's not like we're
breaking news. You watched the game. There are some times
that he's gonna have to know, he's gonna have to
throw the ball away. Yeah, you gonna have to throw them.
You just throw the ball away. You live to see
another day.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You don't want to take that unnecessary punishment, and you
don't want to take your team out of field goal.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Range, or you don't want to make it third and
long or second along. Hey, throw the ball away. Live
to see another day. And that's comes with the maturity.
I mean, the guy's only years of eight, twenty two
years of age. Yeah, so it takes time and he'll
get better. The Peyton manning that you saw, the great
quarterbacks that you saw the rookie season, there weren't that
the midway through and at the tail end of their career,
(40:50):
they were better. We get better.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
You learn more. Once you come to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
You start studying tape, you start watching, you pick up things,
and you self a valuate yourself.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
That's what the really great was do and they'll value
they self. Evaluate yourself. Liked and that's who covered me.
But I tipped off this route.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
But think about think about the names that you just said,
that Tom Brady, the Peyton Mannings when they first started,
where their years weren't exceptional as opposed to how they
ended up.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
The saction doing done to go somewhere right.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
You see how he talked in that person, what he said,
whoever seriously about me and won the franchise chain in quarterback?
Speaker 6 (41:26):
That's who needs to sign me? Who said he didn't
come in and have a season like c. J. Shroud did?
Depending on where he goes, who say nothing, come in
and have.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
A season like Jaydon and Daniels did with the Commanders,
depending on where you know, depending on where he goes.
But what if he has that belief where his presence
alone heidens everything else around him.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Who they gave him.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Go to the Commanders and turn the franchise around just
like that in six months they goes to Houston and
turns the texts around in six months.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
Yep, come on, man, ain't no freak, Ain't no telling
what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
But hey, let's just give him an opportunity. Let's see
what Let's see where he goes hopefully goes someplace and
has a good offici coordinator, good head coach, have great
talent around him. Because if you go back and look,
oh yo, what did take? What did CEJ have around him?
Nico Collins tat Dale, Yeah, had Dalton Schultz. Yeah, nice
(42:32):
tight end. You get Jaye Daniels, had a nice feet. Hey,
they had zach Ertz that had Terry m scared. Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Uh huh, well, well listen, I like that. You just
broke them down. Now, look at the places that he
had the chance to go to. We got the Browns, right,
got an Joe coul We got we got Jerry Judy,
we got my rock runner. I'm not I'm not sure.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Who the number two is. Who's the number two receiver?
Speaker 2 (42:57):
I forget the Goud I know you're talking about he
was okay, uh, but you know they once they moved
on from Amari, right, I forget the guy's names.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
I can't remember. I can't remember myself.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
But then okay, let's say if if let's say it's
not Cleveland, let's say the Giants, you got Malague, Namels.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yep and Dari. I think Slaton is still there too, right.
We were just arguing on, you know, with Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, you know, come on, come on now, come on,
that we could we can, we can work with that.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I just think the thing is that sometimes we have
false perceptions that we think the guy coming in and
should be a finished product and that's the best he's
gonna be now, And they don't realize that these guys.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Have the opportunity to get better.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
That's not the best, that that shouldn't be the best
that they that they that they are. They should uh
incrementally get better. And you work at it, you study,
you put the time in. Good things normally happen. So
uh what is Elijah Moore?
Speaker 6 (44:03):
Oh, Elijah Moore?
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Elijah, they got him?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
I think they got him Clemson.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
You can run some routes now, he got Cardinals. Huh.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Cedric Tillman, Where did Cedria Tillman come from?
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Said Tillman? I played with a guy named Cedria Tillman
who went to Alcorn State.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Hey, I know Elijah Moore is where he can run
some routes bro Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's smaller, smaller guy,
good in the slots, but Jerry Judy is tremendous in
that slot.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Jered Judy.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I was happy for Jerry yeah yeah a head of
the season because look, he wasn't getting the opportunities.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
They didn't have the quarterback. He go frustrated. I think
the thing is like when you it's easy when you're
a young receiver. Oh, you to get down because the
man start bulling you. Coach just pull you playing time,
and all of a sudden, you normally playing forty five plays,
you play at twenty. Well, how the hell you expect
me to show you something in twenty plays when uh
uh at least five of those the quarterbacks are gonna
get flushed. Yeah, another another five. I'm not the number
(45:07):
one option. I might be I might not even be
the second option. I might be third option and second
and two of those gonna be screened. He's gonna get
sacked on another three. So how the hell you expect
me to do something? Which when he plays and I'm
really only involved in about seven of them.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Mm A hey, I'm excited, man.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
I can't wait for football season.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
But like it.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
When is the draft? The draft next week?
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Yeah? He was there. He was there last year. Jamorrow,
He's not there anymorrow.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Joe he got last year because I remember him catching
a catching a couple of passes against the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
That's what the name.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
But okay, uh, Jerry, Judy, Cedric Tillman, and some guy
named Michael Woods obviously, and Joe who's there.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Yeah, okay, what hell? We could work with that too.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
We're good. Were good, We work with that.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Form.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Julio Jones one of the best
players in franchise history.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
I now retirement from the NFL.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Jones a seven time Pro Bowl selection a two time
first team All Pro selection. During his thirteen NFL seasons,
he twice led the NFL in receiving yards twenty fifteen
to twenty eighteen, and he's the Falcons all time leader
in receptions eight hundred and forty eight receiving yards twelve
eight hundred and ninety six. His sixty receiving touchdowns mark
(46:35):
second in Falcons history behind Roddy White, how will you o,
Joe remember Julio.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Well, Julio Jones one of the best to ever played
this game.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Now now we talk, we talk about top five, we
talk about top listen might be might be top five
honestly to come out of Alabama. Man, one of the
greatest ever. I enjoyed watching Julio play.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Somebody.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
It's so funny, right watching Julio Jones play. There's a
there's a young fellow down there at Ohio State that's
from Miami who looks just like even Oh yeah, Jeremiesh Smith,
who might be the second coming of Julio Jones.
Speaker 6 (47:12):
But man, Julio.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Julio was awesome to watch man throughout his entire career.
Some of the things he could do on the field
of that three hundred yard game he had against the
Carolina Panthers was unbelievable. When he snatched that guy there
in ball off the top of Luke Luke Cuekley head
at that time, when he snatched that.
Speaker 6 (47:28):
Ball away from Malcolm Butler in the end zone for
that touch.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, there's some great highlights of Julio Jones. Pulio, I
know you're gonna see this boy. I've always been a
fan of yours. I've always showed you your love and
gave you your flowers while he was actually still playing.
I'm still a fan to this day. You're gonna get
you that gold jacket because you're definitely a Hall of
Famer and you top five in my book. You know,
I would have to shuffle the five round a little bit,
(47:53):
but you belong in it. I salute you in a
great career. And uh that's it. You think he nice, amazing,
consummate pro, had a great career.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
I wish he could have finished his career in Atlanta comes,
you know, bouncing around, no show. He went to, well,
he went to I think he went to He went
to Tennessee after he left that right, Yeah, to Tennessee, Tampa, to.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
Tampa, and he went to New England, Philly, Philip. Yeah, man,
he had a man.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
If only, if only they could have closed out that
Super Bowl three game, and he had he had an
amazing catch that had him at field goal right on.
Speaker 6 (48:38):
The sideline, right on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Yeah see.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Bushati, owner of the Raven Ravens, said he's ready for
his team to break through the ceiling and make it
to the biggest game of the year.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Bashadi said he doesn't like.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Waiting twelve years and he thinks impatience is good for
you when it comes to competing for titles. He also
made it clear I want to win. Now we've got
a winder with Lamar. I know what we can do.
I know that we worked to put ourselves in position
to win. We all get credit for that. That's all
you can do. I hate it that every year you
(49:14):
just have to start back over again. But you know what,
this is not for the meek. The Chiefs Bills have
ended the Raven season last year. What would be different
this year?
Speaker 3 (49:25):
O Joe?
Speaker 6 (49:26):
I mean, listen, it all comes down to two things.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Turnovers.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
That's all it comes down to in those games when
they've lost, even though they've been able to overcome. Lamar's
been able to overcome some of the turnovers, early turnovers.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
In the game.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Later game obviously we know how it ended with Andrew
dropping the ball and have an opportunity to tie the game,
not knowing what would happen going into the second half
or overtime at that point. But still listen about him,
saying Bashadi in general saying he's impatient. He wants to
win now. As long as you have number eight at
the hem, as long as they haven't made in him,
(50:01):
you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
Always have a chance.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Every time there are a few quarterbacks in the league.
They're thirty two teams. There may be five or six
quarterbacks that are going to be in contention every single year.
You can have a goddamn blind right, I guarantee it
will get in the playoffs. The Baltimore Ravens is one
of them. His longest Number eight is upright alive, and well,
(50:24):
you got a shot every time. Now, all you have
to do is just finish it off in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (50:28):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Eliminate the turnovers that's been your Achilles hill so far.
Once you made it so they think they're gonna be alright,
they're gonna be alright. He has nothing to worry about.
Just the simple fact that the AFC North has run
through Cincinnati. That's the only problem. No, oh Joe, check
this out. Lamar Jackson is challenging NASCAR legend Dale R.
(50:49):
Hart Junior from the Number eight trademark. Lamar says it's
too close to Era eight brand name.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Jackson fired a similar trademark opposition to Troit eight minute
twenty twenty four, and they're still battling.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Oh Joe Lamar Versus Dale Jr. Who owns the number eight.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Oh Man, listen deal Dale Junior. We talked about an icon,
talking about the icon in the in the in the
racing world.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Uh, someone that's been around for a very long time, Listen,
Lamar Jackson still has a ways to go. He's an
icon in his own right. And what he's doing down
in Baltimore as a quarterback in general, you know, he's
continuing to seement his legacy at some point. Once he
gets that, once he gets that ring, he's going to
solidify that. Still one of the all time greats right now.
(51:36):
But but that ad that earon hart a unk Dale,
it's different. I mean, it's so hard that that that
ain't represents something else that's that's it's iconic.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
It's hard that last name alone. Uh.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
I mean when it comes to a number, the only
number that you that's anonymous is twenty three.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
Yeah, yeah, he's twenty three.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
That's really the only number that's anonymous with Look, I
understand that Davey retired, you know, Magic was thirty three
in college, But Kareem had thirty three, and so he
slid to thirty two and boom, Shaq was thirty What
was Shaq? Shaq was thirty two in Orlando, but he
ended up going to thirty four. So I get it.
But when you think the numbers mm hmm, yeah, it's
(52:26):
gonna be hard. I mean, you know, I think Troy
Aidman got a beer called I think he has a
beer called eight or something.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
If I'm not mistaken, I think he does. Oh yeah,
I think he has a beer.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I think I think I mean, don't quote me on
that on Joe, but I think I was reading something
that he has a beer called eight.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Hell, I got my phone over here, I'll look it up.
It's e I. G. T. H. Yes, he does have
a beer called eight. Yeah, yep, low car, low caliber.
Speaker 6 (53:00):
You know, it's something.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
It's it's certain players like when you see their number,
when you see a certain yea, a certain player resonates
for this number of regards of what team, regards of
the color of a jersey. You know, I ain't trying
to two mow on home. Yeah, but when you see
when you see eighty five for for the for the
most part, I think the Curtis resonates.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Oh that's show.
Speaker 6 (53:22):
Oh Betsy, I'm just saying. I listen, I'm with you right.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
When you see that twelve, you know it resonates with
you know, Tom Brady, when you see fifteen for the
for the most part, even though he's still playing.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
You know, you think of Pastrion.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Yeah you Anne, you know what not in nine eels
the Great One, gret Ski.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
The great one. Oh wait, listen, as great as he is,
there's only three goals away. You know that matter three
three three?
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yeah, but a the great well when he gets nine
hard trophies, get a road talk to me.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah, okay, it's different, Hey speaking, I think Obie. I
think Obie were Ovaxxanquar eight two, Lamar Jackson has. Lamar
Jackson's one of those players. As he continues to play
and play well throughout his career, whether he wins, whether
he wins a rink or not, that number eight can
resonate with him when he's when he's gone and done playing,
(54:21):
that number eight can also resonate Yah and remembering him.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, you know, look, we're not saying anything, but the
first thing is somebody say ninety nine I'm thinking Gretzky,
so I think give me the famous ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
I'm gonna thank Gretzky.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
Now you wanna say if you're a Yankee fan, you
want to say Aaron Judge, or you're a Bucks fan.
I know, Sap, sap, my boy sap. Yeah, but come on, now,
come on now.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah, hold on, I thought I thought Dale Junior was
eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
How did he get why? Why? Why? If Dale won't
I thought Dale Junior drove drove to eighty eight? Are
eighty eight? If too close to eight?
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Hold on, well, hold on, Lamar says, era eighty eight.
It is too close to era eight.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Oh maybe maybe maybe the maybe the spelling, maybe the
way it's spelled. I mean I can't see it in
front of me, you know, for for contact purposes. He said,
e r A e r A eight Era eight, okay,
eighty I don't know, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
That's that's a stretch there. Yes, it's kind of close.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
And usually when you when you trademark something, you wanted
to stand the yesself and that that that that those
two it kind of coincides a little bit, and it's yeah,
two similar.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Let me see what I got of luck. Lookle bits
up Jojo, because I know his dad was the number three.
Speaker 6 (56:16):
Oh yeah, legend.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
No, he drove, he drove eighty eight and he drove
eight mm hmm. I think the eight eight car was
all white.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
I'm not sure who the sponsor was. I remember it
was all white. I can't remember who the sponsors were
at the time. You know, I hadn't been to a
few NASCAR races. On you've been a NASCAR It sat outside, listen.
That's one of the that's one of the best dates.
When you first meet somebody and you want to do
something different, something that obviously the woman you're dating has
(56:52):
never experienced. Take it to a NASCAR Take it to
a NASCAR race and sit outside.
Speaker 3 (56:57):
Man, they don't like that. I don't know if they
could take that noise. Joe.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Hey, hey, it's different, but put your ear plugs in
if that's the problem.
Speaker 6 (57:08):
It's different. It's different.
Speaker 3 (57:09):
It's fun.
Speaker 6 (57:09):
Get you get your hot dog, gets your beer.
Speaker 3 (57:11):
Obviously I don't drink. I have my coconut, get my
hot dog, you know, popcorn.
Speaker 6 (57:15):
Sat there.
Speaker 3 (57:15):
A great conversation, you know, watch it, watch the cars going.
But that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
But it's just a great date for anybody in the
chat that that that one idea on what it takes
somebody that they just met, somebody that you already know
NASCAR race.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
If she can't sit there with you, she.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
Don't deserve nothing, none of the finer things in life,
and she don't like NASCAR.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
They all have trademark eight, not eighty eight. Okay, so
he tried to I don't Oh, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
Troy has trademark eight. Its spelled out.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
I mean, numbers are hard to trademark, O Joe, because
they're like, well, who they're blowing to you ain't created. Yeah,
it's hard to trademark a number. I mean slogans like
the three. Pat pat Riley owns that. When he coined
the phrase, he got top of righted, Yeah, Louke, Louke,
I was heard here. Lou will tell the story what
(58:23):
I called him Lemon pepper Lou. He asked, Pat, bail
you think it's gonna stick. Pat said, it's already unstuck.
He went out and got lemon pepper lou lou Will
you know he got Hey. I'm just happy that he
liked the name. That's it.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
I have.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
I was just being funny, you know, because you know
we were talking about we go get the wings, O Joe.
Speaker 3 (58:45):
Yeah. And I'm still I'm still a waiting us to
take that trip to go get them wings. We ain't
ben Yo.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
I'm trying to see what all we're gonna hear. Changed
spot to candle Land
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