Nightcap - Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Jerry Jones-Micah Parsons drama + Shakur Stevenson joins

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Micah Parsons reporting to training camp despite him having a contract dispute, speculations, Shemar and Bengals are still having issues and Shakur Stevenson joins the show and much more!

00:00 Introduction
05:00 - Shemar Stewart/Bengals Drama
16:20 - Browns QB Pickett predicted to be QB1 in camp
28:10 - Shedeur gave back to residents of Garden Valley Apts after fire
30:45 - Jerry Jones Shenanigans
50:05 - Shakur Stevenson

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
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(01:55):
the evening Oho Shakur Stevenson will be joining us just
a bit, but first we got to talk about your team.
The Bengals point the finger at Shamir Shamar Stewart's Jamar
Stewart's agent over the contract drama first. Bengals Director of
Player Personnel Duke Tobin pointed the finger at Stuart's representation.

(02:17):
He needs to be here. I would encourage him to
be here. He's listening to advice, he's paying from it
for his agent. I don't understand the advice. We're treating
him fairly. No you're not. No, you're not. Nobody else
put that language in the contract that if you have
a conduct detrimental, all future guaranteed could be voided. You

(02:42):
do realize, if I'm not mistaken, I think the way
they do it now, Oh Joe to guarantee first round
of the money is guaranteed. So in other words, he
has a slip up this year, next year, the year after,
and the year after money could potentially be voided. Are
they out of their mind? That is the reason why
you have an agent, is that you're supposed to take

(03:03):
advice from the agent, right if you didn't, because see
they want to take advantage. Oh we are we treating
him fairly. No you're not. No, you're not. Nobody else
does this. Y'all trying to be slick and they know
you start the dangerous. You got to be careful with
President oyo precedent, because now they're gonna try everybody. You

(03:24):
start doing that, everybody gonna try to start to slip
that in there. Nah, You're not finna do that if
you want to punish me for something I did this year,
by all means, but to take all the future guaranteed
when the contract more more time than not, it's guaranteed.
Absolutely not Oo.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, I totally understand what you're saying. Obviously, I don't
like the hypothetical that was used in the situation, being
that if you're in prison and Mike Brown saying, if
just so happened he goes to prison, I shouldn't have
to pay him for that matter. I think it should
be a year to year thing. I think the agent
should have come to that conclusion a very long time ago,
based on yearly year one. If something happens that detrimental

(04:02):
conduct detrimental to the team, then money for that specific
year should not have to be paid. There should be
some type of penalty where the players, not the player,
that the owners can protect themselves and not having to play.
But what's fair is fair, and what I think what
they're trying to do is not fair. They're trying to
set a precedent a certain president that if Shamar Stewart
the first one, then everyone else it's a copycat league.

(04:24):
If one team does it and a Shamar Stewart and
his agent allow it to happen, then it would be
a trickle effect and everyone else will start implementing that
and setting the president as well.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Then owner Mike Brown said, it's not about money, it's
about guarantee. In this case of if he were to
do something contrary to the discipline levels of the league.
I don't think that's going to ever happen. That's what's
holding it up. It's never happened as long as I
can remember. His agent wants it to be. If he
acted in a terrible fashion. This is all hypothetical. Something

(04:55):
that rides to the level of him going to prison,
we'd be on the line for the guarantee. Yeah, that's
how it works. Yeah. But but o Joe, But guess
what they want to be in a situation if we
cut you, even if I got guaranteed money, I cut you,
I ain't got to pay you. That's what guaranteed me.

(05:18):
Come am, I the only one that understands what the
word guaranteed me? No choken. Yeah, that's how it works.
You don't you don't get you don't get to determine
right that Well you did something year one, Now we're
gonna punish you year two, year three, year four. Bro.

(05:41):
That don't work like that. Yeah, I mean, it's a
if it goes oh Joe, if it goes to arbitration,
you know, say that, and that's what we have. We
have an independent arbiter and they hear both sides and
if they say okay, okay, I can live with that.
But for you to me to just give you that
kind of control, just give up that absolutely, no way

(06:02):
in hell would I ever do that. And he said,
it's not about the money. It is about the money.
Guarantee is about guaranteed money.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Definitely about the money. But listen, excuse me. Shamar Stewart
and his representation are in a tough spot.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
The Bengals, the Browns and Mike Brown, Katie and Duke Tobin,
they're also in a tough spot.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I would love for the matter of resolved. Training camp
has already started, yes, rookies have already reported.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
So he's actually missing time, valuable time where I think
he can come in and make a difference based on
what I've seen on film. You know, with college tape,
he can come in and make a difference. So our
defense was very bad last year. Yes, we need all
hands on deck, correct, We need all hands on deck
based on how we as a team in our organization
start every goddamn season in a whole having to dig

(06:49):
ourselves and dig our way out of it. The point
of having the draft is the draft people and draft
players that we think we can benefit from and help
our team. And this situation right here is not helping
us in any way, shape, form of fashion to reach
the end goal.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
We all have the same end goal we're trying to
get to. Lombardy.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Were trying to be in San France, fucking Cisco come
February week one, and this is not the type of
business and going about doing so. I hope they get
the matter resolved. I'm sick of talking about it, you know.
I'm sorry for being a little frustrated. I'm a little
passionate about my team a little bit, you know, And listen,

(07:29):
Shamar Stewart has to do it right.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
His representation is doing exactly what they should do. This
is business.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
This is the ugly side of business. I know, we
don't want to go out there and play football. I
got drafted. I finally achieved and reached my childhood dream
of getting drafted to an NFL team.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
It just so happened.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Now the business gets in the way, the ugly side
of it, and you wonder why I had so much
fun on while I was playing to get away from
this side this part.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Man, I hope, I hope it's resultd.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
But but you noticed how the Bengals, Now why not?
Why didn't the thirty other one of the teams did
the hypotheticals. You noticed how hypotheticals only happened to the Bengals.
If he were to go to prison or something, I
don't think that's going to happen. Just like they said,
oh this like he might best behave running fire with
the league. I don't think that's going to happen. Well,
if you don't think that's gonna happen, why you're putting

(08:21):
language in there?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
I have I have a question.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Go ahead and excuse you for my lack of ignorance
and lack of knowledge on his past history. Does he
have character issues or stuff that happened previously in the
past that but that I don't know about, because that
that to me, that would be the only reason this
specific player, these clauses would want to be implemented into

(08:44):
his contract because the past behavior.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
I thought you came in with a clean slate. That's
what they told us. Now I noticed. Now you I
don't know if you remember this. You remember when they
Torail prior to Reil Prior sold some of his game
war and stuff, the stuff that he got for winning
the Big Kinship Ohio State. He sold to Jersey. Now
this happened in college, and when he got to the league,

(09:06):
the league suspended him for five games. I was outraised.
I said, how in the hell, since when can you
punish me for something? Oh, Joe, let's just say, for
the sake of argument, I'm a college kid and I
get a d u I in college. I graduate college,
A do an unbelievable job. I graduate with honors. I

(09:28):
get this job, and the job tells me, well, we're
gonna take too much salary from you because you got
a DUI that didn't have nothing to do. When that
I wasn't even on the job, right right, right, whatever,
Chamar's Chamar. Whatever he did or didn't do, he didn't

(09:49):
do it on the Bengals clock. How do you get
to punish somebody for something they didn't do when they
didn't work for you.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
But also, this is their entity, this is their business.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
So when it comes to business, something that you do
know is businesses they do everything they can, especially contractually,
to be able to protect themselves just in case what
you did back.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Then, in case your past creeps in while you work
for us.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
They have they do this in their contract. Is this
in jo Joe Burrow's contract? Is this in Chase his contract?
Was this in Anthony Munjos's contract? With this in Boomer
Science's contract? Because this is the same ownership that's owned that.
So I need to know now, if this is what
they've always done, I don't have a problem with it.

(10:35):
I might not like it, but if this is something new,
I'm not going to be your test dummy. I'm not
going to be your guinea pig to start this president.
You can start it next year, but I will not
allow you to start the president with me.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Oh hey, that's a good one. Hey, it's a tough spot.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Hey, I know fans of piss, fans of piss hell,
you can you can tell the way I'm talking like
I'm sick of talking about it because I want to
see young Bull in camp.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
But I also I see both sides. I see both sides.
Of course, of course, me always.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Having the side with it. I got the side with
the playoff. As much as I love my Bengals, I
got the side with the playoff.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
More time than not. I do two, O Joe. But
I believe in right is right. Wrong is wrong, and
I think that I think the Bengals are wrong in
this situation. And to say you're receiving bad advice, that's
why you, O Joe. Why would I hire financial advisor
if I'm not gonna listen to it somebody. I'm gonna
give somebody millions of dollars to invest my money and
then they say, well, this is safe. It's not gonna

(11:35):
give you twenty thirty forty percent, but it's gonna give
you consistent six to eight percent, because when you take
those huge swings, there's a chance they don't hit. This
is safe. Now, once you get to a certain level,
you say, okay, I got a couple of extra dollars.
I want to put it in something here a little
more risky that's gonna give me more bang for my buck,

(11:57):
something that can give me three x two x x
five x. But that's a huge risk because for every
uber eats or ring, there's something that does not hit. See,
they're all the ones. We look at the bitcoins that
we look at the uber eats, and we look at
the amazons. But do you know how many companies have
gone belly up and that never the IPO net was

(12:21):
was nothing.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Thousands, yes, thousands.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
So that's the whole reason. Yeah, is that I listen,
I hired a guy for a reason. If I thought
I could do it on my own, I damn sure
we'd want to. Didn't care to give somebody three to
four percent. But I knew I couldn't do it on
my own. And then I didn't want to hear them
talk some bullgeive because here I was taking these injections
and giving my all and youre telling me I'm losing

(12:47):
the step? Was I losing the step before or after
I started taking them injections? And I was out more
than one hundred percent? Out there?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Wait a minute, speak speaking of that, Speaking of that,
I'm glad you just said that. I'm so glad you
just said, please tell me talk about that tea that
we so called America's team based on the comments that
we said about sticks.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Uh, we go, We're gonna get that. We're gonna get
the back.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Okay, Okay, God, you want to make sure we got
it in the lineup now because he got a nerve,
the audacity the goal.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Man go ahead.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Brown's Kenny Pickett predicted to enter training camp as QB one.
Cleveland's quarterback battle is about to begin with the start
of the twenty twenty five training camp. Rookies and vetts
have officially reported to brell And to kick things off.
Mary Kay Cabot predicts that Kenny Pickett will have the
upper hand early in camp. Kenny Pickett still has a

(13:39):
slight edge in terms of being number one on the
depth chart heading in the training camp, but that could
quickly change. Mary Kay Cabot is the gospel when it
comes to the Cleveland Browns. Yes he is the gospel.
Yes he is.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Listen, She's the Pavarotti.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
When there's some reporters that when they speak about it
because they've covered it for so long, Yes that's her.
Jane Slater when she starts talking about the Cowboys. Take
it to the bank.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, every time, take it to.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Take it, take it, take going and take it to
the bank. It used to be that way with the
air Bouschette when he was in Pittsburgh. I don't know
if he's still still there, but when he talks going
like yeah that's yeah, yeah, yeah, Mary Kay Cabby, did
it go ahead on yo Yogo?

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Say no, no, I'm gonna say the quarterback battle, Yes.
I like what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I like I like what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
I like the fact that they put certain things out
and most of the time it's all smoking mirrors. Mm hmmm,
it's all smoking mirrors. I talk to the people that
played on that team.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
I hear what's being said.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
I slipped up a little bit a few shows to
go and say some things that shouldn't have said. But
it was okay with that individual that I did say it.
I know what it looks like that they're telling me,
you know, so I love what what what she's and
we he said Kenny Pickett had the chance to be
quarterback number one. I know wh're gonna be quarterback number
one week one when they step on that field. I
know who's gonna be I can tell you that, you

(15:09):
know it's gonna.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Be Joe Flacco. That's neither here nor there. The person
that has the front running experience, the front running experience
based on what he's done, his familiarity with the team
and the offense. It could be Joe Flacco.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Now, who's gonna be behind him if anything goes wrong
or when things start to go wrong? My guess is
gonna be the best person, most polished, with the most
success behind him, And that would be That would be
twelve and that's brother Sanders. No disrespect to Dylan Gabriel
or Kenny Pickett, but if they were the answer, they've

(15:46):
already had their time, They were had their chances to
be started quarterbacks in the league.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
You know what I'm saying. It is something going to
miraculously change for Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
No, I don't. I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Okay, yeah, so I don't understand quarterback number want to change.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I don't listen to any of that. That's all I
call that smoke and mirrors. No disrespect to Kenny Pickett,
love him, love him. But this opportunity with the Steelers,
you had it. H So you mean you come to
a team like the Cleveland Browns that's in dire need
of quarterback one, and all of a sudden you have
the answer if something has changed miraculously at the quarter

(16:21):
of acquisition with you in your play, No it hasn't.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
I agree, Ojo. I just didn't understand that. You know,
you bring in all these quarterbacks, you bring in a
veteran eighteen years and Joe Flacco, you bring in another
veteran player in Kenny Pickett, and you teach take two rookies. Yeah,
it was I don't I don't get that because I

(16:47):
see a very similar situation with the RG three situation
in Washington. You take RG three with the number two pick,
and then you end up get taking Cousins, and we
see how that played out. We see that played out.
Mike didn't Mike didn't want RG three because back then, Ojo,
they were in salary cap hell. They had tried to

(17:09):
put all that money in an uncapped year. The league
punished them, and so they had a lot of debt.
They had a lot, They really didn't have any cap space.
Now Mike's looking at Daniel Snyder said, Dan, if we
give up this to get this young man, how do
we build a team. We can't sign free agencies and

(17:30):
we give an up draft capital for the fulfillable future. Yeah,
and his style leads to injury because now if he's
gonna be Lamar, and you see Lamar gradually runs less
and less, he throws more and more from the pocket.

(17:52):
He's done a better job of getting down, he's done
a better job of getting out of bounds. That wasn't
RG three. And plus the fact RG three wanted to
be something that he couldn't be immediately, that was Peyton
Manning and Tom Brady pocket being able to They were
that because they were not athletic. They couldn't take off,

(18:14):
run and run away from a defense like RG three could.
He didn't understand that was his blessing Ojo right, you
noticed Ojoe quarterbacks that are not mobile never says man
I wish I was mobile. Tom Brady never said I
wish I could do this. Peyton Manning never said I
do that. Because you have to understand the defense looks

(18:38):
that you once you start running. They see Adrian Peterson.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Here, no matter no matter what jersey number you win.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
I see a running back. That's it. And I'm trying
to and I'm trying to split his dome. Legally, I'm
trying to hit you as hard as God will let me. Now,
I'm I'm not concerned about next week. But if I
hit you clean legally and you don't come back into
the game, I wish you the best for next week.

(19:08):
But oh well, because I look at it like this,
Oh Joe, my job as a defender is not to
protect the offensive player. That's his coordinator's job. That's his
quarterback job. So if the coordinator calls a play and
the quarterback takes off running, you told me you don't
care about him, Yeah, so why should I?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
But also you know what, you know what also with
the coordinator, he knows the player strengths is at the
quarterback position, so he puts the quarterback, and he puts
the quarterback in advantageous positions to make those plays for
the team. And just so happens, what the quarterback does
best is the exact thing the defense.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Hope he does.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Hope that's right, because all I need is want one
clean shot.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
That's it, is it, that's it, And.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
I just I just hope you do it gets a
fair chance. It's hard speaking personally, Oh Choe, going into
a situation where you're not a high draft pick and
you're behind so many guys. Hell, I'm like the sixth
or seventh receiver. H I'm only gonna get one or

(20:20):
two players on yo, And how don't want to get
your attention?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Make the most of it.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
I don't I don't even think it. I don't even think.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
It's not even hard, it's not even hard. I hate,
I hate going back. But this was just a lesson
being taught. We already know he's a top three pick
and should have been, should have been now for for
for for conversational purposes, this is a great conversation piece.
I know how the outcome is going to be based

(20:50):
on what he can do.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
When he touches the field. He's been a winner all
his life, Yep. Everywhere he's winning.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
And that same attitude and discipline and the way of
playing the game of football is going to carry over
in Cleveland as well. And this is no disrespect to
the other competitors on that team at that specific position, right.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
It's gonna carry over.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
He's already been through adversity, He's already faced these same
obstacles every time.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
It's just another one. He's going to overcome. And I'm
happy for the organization.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Hell, I'm happy for Browns fans because finally, what you've
always needed for so long is right there in your building.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
All they're doing is just prolong the situation. That's all
they're doing.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
They don't need to prolong it anymore. They need to
find a quarterback. They need to find one bad and uh,
you know, if you go back and look at it,
they really only had two. I mean you got to
go back to Auto gram Well, Auto Graham. I think
we went to like ten championships, but that was what
that was. That was like before your before your mom
and your.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
I've seen Auto Graham play. I seen, I've seen the
black and white footage.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
He was nice that you got, you got yeah, and
then you got Bernie Baker. Baker could have been good, yeah,
but they didn't have the pieces around Baker. You see,
Baker found a home, you know, and in Tampa because
you look at what Baker had it at Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Hold on, do you forget to receive us Baker had
in Cleveland? You don't remember home?

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Oh we have.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Odell if I'm not mistaken, right, Yes, Jarvis Landry, if
I'm not mistaken, yep. And was it Donovan Puken Jones
or my tripping and my off chat chat remind me,
remind me of But yeah, but that a that's something to.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Work with now. But think about it, o Yo. Odell
came out a broken leg. Oh they have a torn
a cl We know Odell was not the same player
that he was in New York.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
No, he hadn't got hurt yet.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
He had broken his leg in the Giants.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
He did, he did, Okay, okay, okay, thank you for
getting me right. Okay.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Jarvis was a slot receiver, had great hands, durable, but
that's not that's not Mike Everys and Chris Godwin.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yoh yeah, yeah, Mike Evans, Mike Mike Evans in his
own in his own yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Now Godwin has gotten hurt a lot over the last
several years. But the one thing you can, hey, you
can sit your clock by Mike Evans is gonna get
a thousand yards receiving.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Mike Gas is gonna get a thousand yards receiving. Yeah,
he went somewhere. Carolina was not a good fit for him.
The Rams. We know he wasn't gonna stick there. Uh uh,
Stafford had gotten hurt. Stafford was their guy. He was
never gonna beat Stafford out. But he goes to Tampa,
plays on a one year deal in Boom. The rest
is as they say, it's history. He just found a

(23:47):
home because of Oklahoma. Look at the receiver they had
ceed Lamb. Who else was the who else was the
other receiver? I think Joe Mixon was his running back.
So he's used to being around talent, talent, talent, talent.
Now they give him that, so now he can shine,
he can flourish. We're gonna find out. They're in a very,

(24:08):
very tough division. The Steelers got better, The Ravens got better.
The Bengals believe they've gotten better. They've resigned their two
offensive weapons. Joe Burrow has another year in that system.
The question is can they hold up defensively because they
put when ojo, it puts a lot of pressure on

(24:28):
your offense to have to be perfect, to have to
I mean they have to be perfect. Joe Burrow can
turn them ball over one time and sometimes that's enough
to cause them to lose one turnover. It's hard to
play perfect, but that's what the Bengals have to be
because their defense they score thirty eight, they give up

(24:49):
forty one. They scored thirty five, they give up thirty eight,
they score thirty one, they give up thirty four. Yeah,
and Joe just has to like, damn, who can't turn
it on today? Cause our defense ain't stopping no one.
It's hard to play like that. It really is, all right, o, Joe.
This is the subject that you.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Also, there's something mainstream media hasn't reported much on. In
the wake up June twenty third gas explosion that sparked
the fire at ravashed several units in the Rainbow Terrace
section of Garden Valley Apartments, Shador gave back to the community.
Over the course of four hours last Wednesday evening, nearly
one thousand residents of the Garden Valley Apartments gathered for
a family friendly, charitable event sponsored by Shadur. The festivities

(25:38):
featured and eleven year old DJ Lin dancing, free haircuts,
food truck, grill, food, and complimentary T shirts. In addition
to never turning down on selfie requests, should door joined
residents and corn hold and makes your football game and
even blowing bubble with children props to your door for
hitting the ground running when it comes to ingratiating himself

(25:59):
into the Cleveland community.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
What's the one thing you get?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
You get?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Remember the movie Gladiator, I do remember what he told
Maximus when the crowd you when you're what mm hmm
your freedom? Yep, win the crowd and the rest will
take care of itself.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
He's doing exactly Listen, He's doing exactly what you're supposed
to do in bed and bed yourself in the community.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Let them see as a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
I'm here.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
I'm here.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
I don't think things went the way they should have gone,
but I'm here. That's that's gonna take him far with
those on the outside of the stadium far.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
That means a lot.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
When's the last time you've seen a Cleveland Brown quarterback
do something like that?

Speaker 3 (27:03):
All of them done stuff in the community. I'm sure
they all do. Every team, every team has players that done.
I mean to that magnitude.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, and that's the first round pick, high draft choice,
not seventh round picks. It definitely not this time of
the year. Now, maybe once the season starts, I've made
the team. I do things in the community, a blood drive,
a food bank close to the whatever the case may be,
Christmas gift turkeys for Thanksgiving, hams, whatever the case may be.

(27:31):
O Joe, Yeah, I get that. I've seen it, but
not like this. Yeah, but this is who he is. Yeah,
this is who he is. So kudos to Shador for
getting out of the community ingratiating himself and hey, good things.
Jerry Jones shows the opening training camp by taking a

(27:51):
shot at Michael Parsons. Oh, Joe, let's take a listen
to what Jerry had to say.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Just because we signed him doesn't mean we're gonna have him.
He was hurt six games last year. Seriously, we've signed uh.
I remember signing a player for the highest paid at
the position in the league and he got knocked out
two thirds of the year Dark Prescott. So there's a
lot of things you can think about when you just

(28:16):
as the player does when you're thinking about committing and
guaranteed money.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
He just can't help himself.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Dallas Cowboys fans, Dallas Cowboy players, this is your head coach.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
This is your excuse me here, come to my head coach.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
He's the head coach.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Hey, this is the man that he is the head coach. Huh,
this is the man that wanted the show. This is
the man. This let you know a short term.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
How they really feel about you, for sure, this is
doing This is how they really feel about you.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
There's nothing like getting.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Taking a dig or taking a shot at your two
star players, your two star players. Oh well, I made
one of the highest paid but he missed it, mister
season because of injury. We play football, it's the contacts
for it. It's a barbaric sport. Sometimes injuries do happen.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I remember he made his I remember he made another
quarterback the highest paid, and he never took a shot
of him and he stayed injured. But that ain't none
of my business. I don't even know why I brought
that up. Bout yo.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
This is who you have to go out there and
play for. This is who you have to go out
there and play for. I want to know what's to
your owner thinks about you.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yes, but we know that se See. The thing is,
oh g see. I remember in twenty sixteen when Colin Nipton,
Oh but Jerry loves his players. Jerry loves people that
look like you and I that can do something for it.
Come on, now, don't you fool yourself? Come on now,

(29:52):
see the mistake that people make? Oh Jerry, No, no, no, no,
no no no, no no no. Michael Lovey could do
things for him. Daz Bryants can do things for it.
Him Smith could do things for it. Charles Haley could
do things for it. Nate Newton, Larry Allen, I could
go on and on and on. Stop fooling yourself. Oh,
out of the kind and so your heart. Okay, okay, I.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Have a question, and this is for the chat, for
the for the people in the chat as well.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
If you played for the Cowboys organization, how would you
feel as a player understanding that's how the man who
runs the show and writes your checks felt about you.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
I already know how I felt about.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
How does that even give you the motivation even to.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Go out there and play for that man?

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Play for that man outside of the money.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
That's all I'm doing. See what he has upset? He's
upset at Dak because Dak has always been posed him.
Dak has always always been what it was. You're the owner,
I'm the player. A lot of players get close to Jerry.
Dak has never allowed that to happen. Todd Friends comes in,
does the negotiating hard line boom, I'm up out of here.

(31:05):
That goes about his business. Dak ain't trying to go
to his house. Dak is not trying to go out
and hang out with him. Dak is that Dak does
what he does. Dak now has a family. Boom, strictly business,
strictly business. You see he taking a shot at Michael
because Michael wouldn't let him, wouldn't let him glazing. Yeah, na, oh, oh,

(31:27):
it's between me and the player. You never did a
deal with just a player when the player had representation.
But you know what's going to cost you because you
let Max Crosby get a new deal, You let Miles
Garrett get a new deal, You let TJ. Watt get
a big new deal. And guess what. Michael Parsons is
three to four years younger and all of them, yes,

(31:49):
so guess what he's about to do pole vault. So
whatever TJ. Watt got, Michael Parson's gonna get a million
to two million dollars more. And don't give me that junk.
I play in Texas, Oh I know it ain't no
state income tax and I'm glad for that. So that's
forty two forty three million, Uncle Sam, I'm going to
go get thirty six percent of it those state taxes, right.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
And I'm understanding obviously.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I wanted to text my Michael, I wanted to call him,
but I was like, you know what, I'm not even
gonna bother them.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Just sad. How you feel? How does that make you feel?
And I'm just thinking about.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Like, crap that this is my owner thing. My owner
thinks about me. Now, what about the time that, oh,
he missed some games, But I guarantee you there's some
games that he should have missed more, because I know
Michael had some issues going on. But that ain't none
of my business. I don't even know why I brought
that up again, Damn, I keep telling people business.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
You know how many times all of us have played
the game of football and went out there anyway when
we were hurt. Yeah, had to take toward all pills,
had to take, had to take the toward all shot
and play for the same Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Marcaine, Yeah, Cortzon, Yes, all that shooting up in your
shoulders and then your knee not why you shoot my
knees up? I shot my ankles, up, shot my shoulders
up ribs did all that? O? Yo, did all that?

Speaker 4 (33:07):
How do we not?

Speaker 2 (33:08):
How do we not understand and just have any self awareness?
Where that's the kind of stuff that you say to yourself.
What you never say out loud about the players that
are on your team. You don't say stuff like that
out loud.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Had the nerves dead and in my ankles, so I
couldn't feel no pain the whole. That's what nerves do.
They allow you to feel pain and says okay, hey,
bro back off that I had my nerves. Don had
my nerves and my ankles deadn't so I couldn't feel
pain so I could go out there and play. And
then to have somebody talk like that, man, please, I'd
have lost it. I'd have lost it.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
You know what's funny is when you think about the owners.
Obviously it's thirty two owners. I think Jerry is the
only one with.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
The cohorn is to come out and say how he
really feels. No one else will do that. W you
saw today. Nobody else will do it.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
No, why wouldn't but Jered Jerry. But see, that's what
Jerry wanted to be about him see, Jered don't want
no superstar because you know why he want a superstar
because he would never take a Tom Brady. He would
never He couldn't play for tat Manny because they'd be
bigger than his and he don't want that to happen. Right,

(34:20):
I've been very fortunate. I played for two owners. Mister Bowland.
I did something for his family today, Yes, sir, but
oh Joe, it was about us. We were the superstars, right.
He can tell me all the time, Sharper, I ain't
catching no passes, Sharper, I ain't make no tackles. Why
the hell I need to be up there and talking
and carrying on. That's what I play you guys for.

(34:43):
I said, you play us quite well. I don't. I
don't get why Jerry felt to open up training camp
like this. I don't know. Everything that comes up doesn't
need to come out.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Right, But what you're thinking doesn't need to be said.
Every little thought, especially stuff that you know, is gonna
ruffle people's feathers, catch media headlines. Hell, the only thing
that should be catching headlines today is Cowboys open up
training camp and George Picking looks motherfucking good.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Excuse my language. Sorry, George Pickings look good, day one.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
That's what that should be the conversation, not what you
said about back, what you said about Michael Man.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Come on man, JJ Watt took to Twitter excuse me
x to defend him. Anytime you can publicly take a dig,
get your star quarterback and your young star pass Russell
simultaneously right before the season begins, you gotta just take it.
Nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than
hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while

(35:54):
fighting for you. Michael reposted that no discount for you, Jerry.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Wait, hold on, hold on? What if what if you think,
excuse me? What if it even goes worse? What if
Michael says, you know that that's how you feel about me?

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Trade me?

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Why don't you trade me?

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah? Then what then?

Speaker 3 (36:18):
And it's the funny thing, is the funny.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I'm just finding out all about Jerry's ways because I
never played for the Cowboys, and obviously when I was playing,
you know, I'm i'm i'm I'm blind to what's going
on over there.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
But you don't want to introduce me and told me
about the whole thing with Jimmy Johnson. Yeah, so that
that raised my eyebrows.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
But I thought, okay, maybe that's just okay, maybe that's
just a one off. Maybe they just had a disagreement
and he's not really liked that, but they got into it.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
But he thought after three years, he thought after he
hired eighty nine with Jimmy's first year, that's the year
he took over. He brought the I think bum bright.
I think that's where he brought the Cowboys from. So
he took with him and him and Jimmy in eighty nine,
Countroy was their first draft pick. They won the championship
in four in ninety two, win it again in ninety three,
and again in ninety five. So in four years, so

(37:08):
eighty nine, ninety ninety one, ninety two. So in the
fourth year, he thought he knew more football than Jimmy.
Now see Jimmy will see what Jimmy could do. Jimmy
was coming from college at the U. So all these
guys is coming out. Guess who knew him because he
tried to recruit him after you. Yeah, see, Jerry thinked
because somebody handed him a piece of paper that they've

(37:30):
done all the work for. See Jerry's that guy that
does no part of the project. But he gets to say, Hey,
you ain't do nothing. You just happened to own the team.
You did nothing. Jimmy, the scouts, the evaluators, they did
all the work. It burned them. It burned them that

(37:50):
Jimmy got the credit. Everybody gave Jimmy the credit, and
he wanted Jimmy to toast him.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
And that's that's a tough spot to be in for
a player. It has to be just to hear that
from your owner has to be a tough spot to
be in. You know, he's running it. It's supposed to
be a football team. It's supposed to be an organization.
But you're running it like I'm not going to say
the P word.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
You're running it like.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
The P word. You oh, Joe Jacob, Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Okay, you see where I'm going? Yeah, yes, okay, you're
running You're running it like that. You don't say you don't.
You don't say that about the players that you're paying.
You don't complain.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Oh, I made the quarterback the highest state because you
fucking waited to pay him. You waited till the last minute, and.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
You waited till the last minute. You got Michael Parksons
on the fifth your option minute, and he said it,
and I used to say this all the time. I
am not going to give you. I would give you
a discount if you signed me with a couple of
years left, because now you're giving me guaranteed money. I'm
not giving you a disk account if you make me
get to the punctuation v end no, bro, I got

(39:08):
to get maximum dollar out of you, max value. But see,
here's the thing on Joe. I know who Jerry is,
and as long as they know who Jerry is, they
should never have a problem with it. He applauds to
what you do, not who you are. It's transactional to him.

(39:29):
You can provide a service, a damn good one. He's
gonna pat you on the back. But if you think
it's anything more than that, you're sadly mistaken. Sadly mistaken.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
And man, that's that's I ain't never heard nothing like that.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I know a lot of them think like that one
thing they're thinking, but they actually say it out loud.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Bro, Listen, see a lot of times people want to
they'll take what he says about them. But I listen
to what he says about everything else and how he
handles everything else. That told me a lot. Yeah. Yeah, Oh,
your toads are gonna be on the line. Your hand's
gonna be over the heart.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Oh oh oh doing that? Oh yeah yeah yeah, Okay, I.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
See what we're going with this. Yeah, yeah, I see what.
I see how you think?

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, I mean, listen, it's unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, be you be you. I hate to like I said,
I know Michael Little, I like him a lot, great personality. No,
it's is represented it, But I'm gonna be very, very
disappointed if y'all don't rick Jerry ass cross the colds,
if y'all don't get at least forty two forty three
million dollars, if y'all don't get if y'all don't get
ten million, if y'all don't get five million more than

(40:45):
what TJ Watt got. TJ got three years, one hundred
and forty three million. He got one hundred and eight
guaranteed with one year. Oh man, y'all better get you
one hundred and fifteen million guarantee, fully guaranteed. As a
matter of fact, Jered, since you've been nasty, I want
a hundred of it and signing. I want a hundred
of about one fifteen and signing.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
As soon as I signed out of line, I'm not
even shaking hands day, I'm not even shaking hands.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I'm happy to be a cowboy, but I'm more happy
than I get to a secure of my family. This
is generational wealth, my family, my dad, my brother. Hey,
we're good now, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Thought he really said that out loud though, Yeah, but
that's oh, Joe, don't you like that.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Don't you let me know where? I'm staying with you
for far too many times, far too many times. I
just need to know. See, that's the difference between the
South and the North, and it's how there.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
You know.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
They don't like it, they tell you, Yeah, yeah, I
don't like you. Bob as opposed to.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Hide right, Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Ye'll tell y'all what he thinks. Michael actually reported the
training camp today despite the contract stand up. Should know?
Should Michael trust Jerry Joe's enough to report the camp? Yeah,
I'm gonna report the camp. I'm a report the camp.
I don't want to get no money back. I don't
want to, but I just hey, because they they've tried

(42:27):
to that's another thing. Oh Joe, see see what they
put in there. Now, Hey, there's no forgiveness, though it doubles.
I mean what they started at fifteen thousand, thirty thousand,
you missed ten. You missed ten fifteen days of practice.
That's over a million dollars that the team can't forget
forgive mm hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
But now that you know, you go on there, you
know you play the game. You play the game.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
On the back of my I'm playing for the number
of the name on the back of my jersey, EF
that name on the front because that's what you said.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
To me, yeap, basically, basically and not so many words. Yeah,
that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
So hey, go do what you do, Michael. I hope
Michael get twenty five sacks and the and the forty million.
You're gonna pass fifty now fifty Mili Michael, hopefully you
get a contract extension. What's Michael playing on? What's this

(43:34):
fifty option twenty? What? Because he's outside, he's the edge
over here d N twenty four Millie, Michael. All you
do is that you pay your monthly expenses. Don't you

(43:55):
buy nothing, Don't you buy a car, don't you ay Hey,
your mom and dad say, look here, there'll be no
expenses going on. I'm gonna pay my rent. I'm gonna
pay X, Y and Z. I'm just gonna pay monthly expenses. Yeah,
I'm gonna sit tight because if this, you know what,
try to franchise me. I'm not coming. I'm not signing

(44:18):
no franchise tag. I'm not signing a franchise tag. How
you knew it?

Speaker 3 (44:25):
You think you would have played with him?

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah, you do realize. Here's the thing, O Joe. You
didn't do it to me now, so you've made me
run the gauntlet two years in the row. Why oh no,
I'm hit you over the head with a heavy hammer.
Yes absolutely, If I'm yes, the price goes the price

(44:49):
goes up ten percent every year that you don't get
this done. So right now, it's forty two million. You
don't pay me this year. Guess what it is? A
ten percent increase forty six million, and plus another tempercent
on the on the sign up, on the guaranteed money.
I don't.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
I don't. Is he does he purposely? What is the method?
You did it with CEEDE. Lamb, you did it with D.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
DG.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Elliott?

Speaker 1 (45:13):
What's the what's the purpose because he's he's thinking they're
going to give him a discount. I'm not giving you
a discount when you're making me run to the last
year of the contract. Oh Joe, I'm not see he
thought that would give him a discount, like Wentz and
Golf gave their teams discounts. But those teams, they were

(45:34):
first and second overall pick. They got huge. Their total
contract was guaranteed. They got four they got thirty five million,
they got thirty two million fully guaranteed. I don't know
what that That was the fourth round pick, so I
don't really know what those numbers are. Then three years
into the deal they give a new contract. That is
what they did with that. So, oh Joe, I've already

(45:57):
gotten thirty two thirty three billion dollars a guarant team
plus you come to me early, Okay, I give you
a little discount. I help you, I help the salary.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Camp right, understandable, understandable.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
I'm not giving you a discount when I'm that low
of a draft pick my first contract, yes, sir, not
first one. I'm trying to split your dome. Oh yes, absolutely,
Now I might give you one. The second one but
that's my choosing. No you say, oh, you know, you
tell me that's you know, football business and let football

(46:30):
people do football things. Well, I'm gonna let y'all handle
that salary camp. So my job is not to try
to help y'all manage all salary camp. I'm trying to
extract because I care just about as much as winning
as you do. Jerry Jones has shown you over the
last thirty years he doesn't care about winning. So guess
what me either, you care about making money? So do

(46:53):
I I care about what you care about? Out? Oh okay,
we got a special guest joining us, Old Joe uh
Chakur Stevenson. He just had a fight over where you
beat Williams Supada uh Stevenson landed two hundred and ninety

(47:17):
five of five hundred and sixty five punches thrown fifty two.
Damn not landing ninety six jabs of two hundred and
seven thrown forty six? Damn did he move? Damn he'll
punch it. He'll a punching bag.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
What the hell?

Speaker 1 (47:35):
How do you have? How do you hit somebody fifty
two percent of the time of punches land you hit
somebody forty six percent of the time of giants thrown
and power shots, you land it and you hit somebody
fifty six percent of the time with power shots.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Can I can?

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I can I explain to you who was fighting the
statue a SA court. Go ahead on, Joe, take off.
I will let you have it.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Hey, you mute it? Uh you get me there, We
got you, I get you.

Speaker 6 (48:04):
Not good, y'all.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
We didn't give you. We wanted to get right, We
wanted to get you in. Uh, we're gonna give you
a proper introduction because you know. But go ahead, go ahead,
Oh Joe, I'm gonna let you take it off. Take off.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Now you're probably gonna say, I'm just read off the
stats and and a lot of people don't really understand
how good you are offensively when it comes let's sene
your defensive offense.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
They don't understand how good you are.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
How does it feel for all those that doubted saying
he's always running, he doesn't stand there and fight.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
To show the world that you can also put on
the box and clint it. You can sit in the pocket.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Against a pressure fighter where everywhere everybody thought because he's
a pressure fighter, you would be running around, But what
you did. You sat in the pocket, you created distance,
you stayed at mid range, and.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
You put on a fucking clinic. What were your game
plan going into that fight?

Speaker 6 (49:02):
Honestly, man, my game plan was different than what I
did on fight night.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Right.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
I talked with my coaches. My coaches had a certain
game plan. They wanted me to outbox and move make
him frustrated with my feet. But bro, it was like
I wanted to do the unexpected, like he kind of
expected me to go in there and move around and
Tom and Jerry all week right right right. For me,
it was like, shit, I want to do what you

(49:27):
think that I'm not going to do. So I went
in there, I stood in the pocket. I put on
a perfect display of boxing.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
And also.

Speaker 6 (49:36):
A lot of people here they doubt it, but like
it feels regular for me, like it's nothing new, it's
nothing different because I already knew what I was building.
You can't see me work before you know who I am.
So it wasn't it wasn't nothing new for me, Like
it was, it was very much regular.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
When it when it comes to when it comes to
different fighters, obviously, fighting someone fighting a pressure fighter, found
fighting a fighter that's accounted puncher. How much goes into
game planning for that individual fighter, and how I don't
want to say the right way knowing that he's gonna
apply pressure the whole time most of the time.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
That's the way he fights.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
He fights everybody the same way. What went into your
game plan where your coach is saying they want to.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Use your feet, but you chose, you know what, forget
what you're all talking about.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
I'm finna sit in the pocket and it's not gonna
be a banging match. I'm gonna just I'm gonna make
sure my my defense is my offense. And obviously, statistically
the punch you hit ninety ninety fifty two of punches landed,
you had power. I mean, just everything effing worked. And
at what point did you realize he was frustrated because
his game plan wasn't working even though he tried to adjust.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
I knew he was frustrated in like the sixth round. Yeah,
when I seeing him kind of start thinking and and
he kind of like settled down a little bit. He
wasn't like as aggressive as he was first half of
the fight. So boom, kind of like I had a
good game plan, my coaches said they had a great
game plan, but for me on my brain just working

(51:06):
a different way. I know, I'm the one that's in
there fighting, so trying to be thinking on the spot.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
But he was.

Speaker 6 (51:12):
He was a tough fighter.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
He kind of pushed me. I've been telling everybody the
whole week. I said, this guy's going to bring out
the best of me on this job. Y'all think that
I can't sit in the pocket, y'all think that I
can't fight. So this is a guy that I'm gonna
show all of these different tools and things. And when
we came in and we did what we had to do.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Is that the first time that you kind of gone
away from what the game plan was kind of probably
what you practiced in training camp, because like you said,
he was gonna be Tom and Jerry. You're gonna you know,
box him, use your speed, use use all your movement.
And you said, you know what, no, I'm gonna sit here.
Because that was a knock on you, shokrd Man. He
ain't fighting nobody. I mean, not only does he not
fight anybody, he duck and he ain't sitting in the pocket.

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He ain't throwing no lever. He running around, got everybody
chasing me, he picking him off like that. He said,
the hell with that, let me show you what I do.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
Yeah, yeah, you know, like I said, I've been dow that.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
I've been knew that, but that wasn't my first time
going with my instincts. I think my instincts kind of
take over a lot come quite nice. So I kind
of watched this dude over and over and over. I've
seen a lot of weaknesses.

Speaker 6 (52:16):
I also knew that me killing on the ropes wasn't
as bad as.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
But everybody made it seem to be, like yeah, especially
just damn commentators.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Yeah yeah, but in a in a sport, you're not
supposed to do that, and you're not supposed to be
sitting on the ropes.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
It's a bad thing to do.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
But somebody like me, I kind of open guys up,
like they feel more comfortable to open up when they
when they get me.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
To the ropes.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
So basically, to me, every time you sat on the ropes,
you go go in to Philly shell and then all
you're doing is you're baiting him and the throwing punches,
and you know, if he throws six, I can old
and block five and counted in between. Yeah, and it
worked every single time where at some point to pay

(53:06):
that Okay, you have to make adjustments. Make it because
he's sitting on the rope for for a reason, and
bag you to throw. As soon as you throw, you
roll one way, roll the other, slipp slipper jab in.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
But also if you watch the second half of the fight,
my adjustment was to get off the ropers.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Right and stay in the middle of the stay in
the senate of the ring.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
I kind of took control the fight, yeah, instead of
the ring, because I.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Knew I don't know what these judges is scoring, so
I know he kind of I know I'm ahead, but
I still want to make sure I leave my mark
and make sure I don't leave no room for the
judges to rob me.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
So I kind of made that adjustment in the second
half of the fight.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Yeah, as you started off at a featherweight, now you're
a lightweight, and you know you're in that lightweight division
of one thirty five. You look at the grace that's
been in that division. Robert of the Ram, Sweepee, Whittaker, Shavez,
Henry Armstrong, Ben Atlanta, the Ghetto of the Ghetto, Kid
where where are you now? Are you are you like
I'm gonna stay here for a minute, or are you

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gonna go to super lightweight at one forty Now I'm
an actual lightweight.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
A lot of guys don't even realize I walk around
close to my fight with Like how they talk about
guys like Floyd.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
Yeah, yes, yes, he walked around close to his fight weight.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
So three pounds, four pounds either weight, I don't.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
I don't see myself getting no bigger to fight at
one hundred and forty pounds. Them guys is a lot
bigger than me. So if I do it, it'll just
be okay. And then everything At one hundred and thirty
five pounds, I conquered the division and now it's trying
to move up, so uncomfortable here. I want to be
one of the best light wasts of all time, and

(54:49):
my last flight was the kind of the.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
Beginning of that.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Yeah, most definitely. And speaking of.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Okay, I'm gonna say, speaking of what you want to
be a comp, I mean be known for and that
last fight being the indication that you're well on your weight.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
But what's next? Who's next? If if you had three
fights lined up in no particular order where you can
continue to feel.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
That dreaming legacy of being one of the best lightweights
at one thirty five? Ever, who are the next who
are the next three that you would like to fight?
And I'm not saying call anybody out, I'm just saying
in general that you know that will continue to help
be of that legacy you're trying to build.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Call no, I don't do it, don't.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
I think I take Tank Lamont light waight lightweight. I
like I like Andy Kruz. I like Andy Kluz. I'm
a competitor, so I like the best fights and the
best most competitive fights. So I think them guys is
more so than three most competitive guys for me.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
I think Tank is the money fight. I think that's
the you know, not only would that that help submit
your legacy at the lightweight division, I think that's the
fight your court that's gonna pay you the most money
for sure.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
You know, he's a guy that everybody's been talking about
for a long time, So I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I knock out power. It's gonna be his power versus
your skill.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
Oh you know it's crazy about that. This is no cap,
no cap.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
You know a lot of gods, they're like, oh he
did that against the pay that because the pay is
not a big puncher. I would rather fight a power
puncher any day and fight that kind of value.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Tell us why.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
Because after the fight my body was done, Like I done,
been in there with power punchers to where it's life.
You know, you gotta think and get out the way
and don't let them lay in that big shot. But
when you're fighting a value punching, he punching on your arms,
your body, it's just very much like a fight, a
big ass fight to where it's life. After the fight

(56:59):
you need massage. Is it's a big fight on I
would rather fight them guys any day.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Yeah, it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
I like the three names that you did call out
about fighting. I think tank Is is the money fight.
But the fight that would interest me the most based
on skill set, you know, styles make fights. The one
I think would be the best chess match you know
from round to round and both of you, you know
it would be brother Roach, Brother, brother Roach. I think

(57:30):
to me, for those of us that are not casual
boxing fans and actually enjoy the sweet science, I would
love to watch that a fight with you and Roach
developed round by round and just just just the thinking
game and the chess match that it would be based
on y'all skill sets.

Speaker 6 (57:46):
But I would love that fight too.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
I think that's the one of the fights to make
I think that Lamia is very underrated. I'm glad pugging
it out about his skill set because a lot of
people don't realize how good.

Speaker 6 (57:57):
He really is and own. You know, I appreciate Lamar too.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
He's one of the guys who came and helped me
in one of my biggest fights in my career when
I Osca Valdas. I made Lamar roach my main's farm partner,
and he kind of got me hearty for that fight.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
So you know, I'm real cool with him.

Speaker 6 (58:13):
I would love to fight him though, I would love
to fight him.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
You know a lot of people think that Lamar actually
beat Tank in that fight. What do you think I do?

Speaker 6 (58:20):
I think Lamar won. I think Lamar won seventy five
eighty four, even.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Without the without the knockdown.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
Yeah, without the knockdown. That should have been called she court.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
When you look, when you look, and you look, look,
you're in that division of one thirty five. And as
I mentioned, there've been some great one thirty fighters, Roberto Duran, Sweetpee, Whittaker,
they like in Henry Armstrong and there have been some
great So when did you study any of those? Uh uh,
Chavez Senior? Do you study any of those guys?

Speaker 4 (58:52):
Do you like?

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Do you understand like when you say I want to
be one of the all time greats and those guys
had those guys had night one hundred fights. You're probably
not gonna get to a one hundred fights. You're probably
hoping to get to like forty. But do you understand
that when you say I want to be an all
time great in this division? Some of the all time
greats that have been in that division.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
It's very hard. It's a very hard thing to do.
You gotta pay homage to the great Roberto Duran or
the great Panel.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Sweet Pee with a cup sweet Pee.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Even even Floyd when he when he had his one
thirty five run, he was a hell of one thirty
five run.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
So I paid Lord with four boarding people though at
that weight, people don't realize Foe had not got power
at them light of weight, and one go look at
him against Gotti, Go look at him, and there was
some of those guys he was bought for sure.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
I just feel like, Man, I'm a competitor, bro. So
it's like I appreciate them guys. I pay how much
to them guys. But I'm not going nowhere anytime soon.
So in that weight class, I'm gonna be here and
people gotta come through me. So now you got all
these young fighters, all these new fighters that's coming around.

(01:00:02):
I'm the man in the division, bro, and like, you're
not taking nothing from me. Bro, I've been here for
too long. I've been doing this just five years old. Bro,
I'm going to be the man and I'm coming to.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Get my spot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Hey, not as good as you've gotten from a skill
from a skill set standpoint, obviously being able to fight
in the pocket, being able to fight mid range, obviously
being at distance. That's that's pretty easy for you to
be able to hit somebody at will. How do you
continue to improve on your skill set? And are there
any boxes that you watch right now that you enjoy
and kind of steal stuff from them and add it

(01:00:36):
to your game or are you too far into the
game and do that?

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Well, No, you is never too far in the game
to evolve and learn, bro, Like you've always got to
be able to learn.

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
But like what you just said is how you kind
of get better.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
You got guys out here that's also evolving the game
and getting better, like guys like.

Speaker 6 (01:00:54):
Ooohstick and evolved.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Yeah, I'm sitting back and I'm watching these guys and
trying to steal the little shit that they doing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
So long.

Speaker 6 (01:01:02):
I think that's how you get better. You just got
to keep watching and learning from people. Also keep watching yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
I think studying yourself is one of the underrated things
when it comes to the Slater box. I think that's
what it got my highest level studying where I went wrong,
going back to watch my spring and watch my fight.
When I watched my fight, I see one hundred things
that I did wrong, even though the public felt like
I did good.

Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
But for me, I saw one hundred different things that
I can't wait to get back in the gym and
work on. So that's my main goal, and I'm gonna
keep you evolving the court.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Do you think that as you start to get a
little older, you start to get at a little more
old man weight, You train a little harder, and you
say I walk around at you know, probably one thirty
eight and then you go to one to go to
the one forties because do you feel you might have
to move up and weight to get that bigger payday.
I know Turkey, Ali Chic and Dada White is doing

(01:01:58):
a great job. They're trying to a Hey, we want
the big fights. We don't want nobody dunking nobody. You
gotta belt, he got a belt, get in there and
you take his belt and he take your belt. Do
you feel you might have to move up once you
fight a tank or you fight a Lamont, do you
feel you might have to move up to get these
even bigger pay days.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
I won't move up with.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
Certain guys, Like I'm not fighting guys that just super
bigger than me. But like if it's a guy like
Tia Femo's closer to the one forty weight class and
the sage range, I will fight these guys.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
I don't try fighting the guys on that one forty.
I'm just not getting the ring with people that's way
bigger than me where it's like it don't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Know, they might wait one for it at the type
of way, but they wore fifty five one sixty at
the night of the fight. Hunh A lot of these guys.

Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
That's exactly what they do. They want to be one
sixty five come fight night, and I'm want to match.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Like that.

Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
Shit just don't be making sense.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Yeah, it doesn't. And when you look at it, like
you said about Floyd, I believe and a lot of
not to take it. And Floyd had a supreme skill level,
but Floyd thought that one forty seven for the large
part of his career. Didn He ended up going up
to one fifty four to take OSCARS belt. But Floyd
walked around at one fifty one fifty one, so it
wasn't nothing for him to like run a couple of

(01:03:15):
miles two weeks. And Floyd's at one forty seven. He
wasn't a big man. He wasn't one sixty five one
seventy trying to drop down to one forty seven, taxing
himself because he was such a smaller man. He lost nothing. Yeah,
you know what I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
Respecting about whom though when he fought them guys, he
didn't put no rehydration clauses on them. He kind of
allowed gods to feel comfortable enough to fight him at
whatever wed class. Like if you watched Canelo oversus, Floyd
Cannello was way bigger than Floyd.

Speaker 7 (01:03:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Sure, but at the end of the day's skills do
pay the bill. So I respect Floyd for a lot
of shit that he didn't was for the boxing man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
What funny thing about it, especially when you talk about
the rehydration and claus and Floyd understood that. Okay, I'm
not gonna put one in for Canelo, but I understand
I'm gonna be able to outbox him, allow him, you know, rehydrate. Yah,
put the waterway back on because you're going to be
that much slower, which is why he was able to
counter and hit hit Canelo at will. Obviously, people like

(01:04:18):
to say, oh he was in this policy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
He is in the same Canelo he is now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Listen, if they was to fight later on, like okay,
no disrespect, fight now, it would be the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Skills still, but Floyd fight.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
But no, he's so much bigger. He's fighting at one
sixty eight.

Speaker 6 (01:04:35):
He might be too big right now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Yeah, but see here's the thing, Oh Joe, if he
fight at one sixty eight, he taking advance in the
ring at one eighty five.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Oh yeah, I'm saying from a skill standpoint, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
coming behind it, and the fact that the fact that
I just mentioned Canelo. I want to know what you
think about our brother, Bud Crawford and Canelo. That fight
happened in September. What you think of what you think
about that buy the.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Bad motherfucker man. I think it's gonna be hard for
anybody to beat Budd Crawford. When Buddy Crawford is focused
on his job. I think he's one of the greatest
fighters that I have ever witnessed in my life.

Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
And I have seen him in the gym. I have
seen him come fight night. This dude is just different.
He's just he's not a normally normal boxer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
He's not Bud the Dog for real.

Speaker 6 (01:05:25):
Bud.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Bud got got a couple of screws loosing, Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
I have seen his scowls. Definitely get looseing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Buggy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Hey, oh Joe, you see the interview man, Buddy, And
I said, Hey, I said, man, look here, Bad, I
mess right to mess your shoulders up. People gonna be
mad at me telling me I messed the Delo Bud
Crawford fight up. Bad, I don't leave me alone.

Speaker 6 (01:05:51):
A nice little move many.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Hey, Hey, sir, cool I had it because he thinks
he teaches about them, and I rushed him and so
I got him because you don't ain't. I can't let
that man have no distance. Ha belumped up like Tommy
Hearns had Barton. Yeah, I rushed to be closed the
distance o't yoke. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Oh man, that's that's funny. That's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
So what So what's next? What's next for you? Shkur?
What what's next? You're gonna take you know, a couple
of you got another fight before the end of the
year out.

Speaker 6 (01:06:18):
Now I'm gonna take some time off, you know what.
That fight.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
A lot of people don't know this, but I wanted
that fight to be under the butt and Canelo undercart
because I hurt my hands my last fight before that,
and they kind of forced the fight on me. I
just accepted whatever they forced at that time. Well, I
just want to take a break for the rest of

(01:06:42):
the year and come back fresh early next year on
love my.

Speaker 6 (01:06:45):
Hands and coming and rest up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
I like it. Let me ask you this, give me
your top five boxes of all time. It doesn't matter
weight class. I mean, if you want to, if you
want to be specific the class lightweight, super lightweight, welter,
you know, middles super middle whatever do you want? Junior middleweight?
You know, well, you know whatever. Give me your top five.

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
Boxers number one, Me.

Speaker 7 (01:07:09):
Okay, number two, Floyd okay, number three, Cornell okay, P four,
andre Ward okay number five.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
But Crawford, I like it the first three. You like
defensive fighters, huh for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
That's that's the that's the goal.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
You know, you gotta gotta last year, did not get hit.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
You gotta last thing for you know, guys going to
the hospital and they got brain dammits after the fighting.
They talking for years to come. So I like the
guys that's not talking for me. I like the guys
that can speak properly to you guys, you guys regularly.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Hey, speaking speaking of I'm glad andre Ward is in
your top five, right. You know, I've been trying. I've
been trying to fight Dre for a little minute.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
You know, you you think you think you can make
that happened, to speed up, to expedite the process of
us getting in the ring.

Speaker 6 (01:08:03):
Yeah, I could definitely make that happen, But I don't
know if you want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
He don't I do.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
That's what you want to do, man, I do Hey,
hey as shir cook you you my dog right. I
hadn't been in the gym, but.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
I listen, I know what you could do, and I've
been I've been watching for a very long time and honestly,
no disrespect.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
I love andre but I beat his ass.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:08:25):
Come on, you know that's andre Ward, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I
know it is that may beat you right now with yo,
he ain't been in the gym. He probably han't been
in the gym in years. He tell your ass up
right now.

Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
What like a couple of months ago, I just parted.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Let him know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
I'm ready, man, whatever you want to do, Hey, we
can go. We can go four round six rounds. I mean,
whatever you want to do. I make a light on
himself because I'm in shaking.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Why show up you'pe? I hope you're using sixteen hours gloves?

Speaker 6 (01:08:51):
Yeah, because yeah, doctor, we can use twenties.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
It no matter.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but you need some pillows
because he'll lump your ass up with them. Ten hours
gloves and listen.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
I got dps like your cour you tripping man, I'm
shoulder rolling everything.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Hey, he's your core. Hey, get they get them training gloves,
getting them winning training gloves and sixteen twenty ounces because
anything up in ten ounces. Man, let me tear your
hands up man with some air lambs or some rails gloves.
Grant Man, you you done your heart.

Speaker 6 (01:09:23):
A lot harder than you think. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Yeah, I know, I know, I already know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
I didn't listen. I didn't seen your spar before we
had to fight. I forgot who was I went to
one of the sparring sessions. I know you know, not
bitter bitter look at this one here, man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Don't worry about it. Hey, oh Joe, you keep talking,
then me and you might have to do this. You
know what I'm saying on you. I don't want to
have to do my part to like this course, but
you know what I'm saying, I might have to do
something bad to it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Listen. If you don't see me in my awards, I'm
had to put your hand and I don't want. I
don't want to hurt you.

Speaker 6 (01:09:53):
I want to verse you up. I ain't gonna lie.
Got taverse you, man, Hey, I got tavers you man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Oh ojo to o Joe. He don't give me my
he he don't see me my fifty two hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
I thought only are you fin? I thought only fifty two.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Nd now no, you only fifty nine hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
I'm gonna see im, gonna see your money when you
send me my awards.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Nah nah nah, I'll tell you what. I will beat
it at you. I will beat it at you. You
won't give you my money. I'm gonna do you like
I would do you like Stuart did, Brian. Where's my money?

Speaker 6 (01:10:30):
Where's from? I seen those?

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
What's them? That's the club? Sha Shane ever Last blood wearing? Yeah,
that's exactly. Yes, yes, Bud Wherever Last?

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Yeah, but you don't have bud?

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
What what type of what type of glove you wear?
Are she?

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
Core?

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
You were? Who? Rifle?

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Rifle?

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
I ain't never heard of them, because anybody does anybody
wear rays anymore?

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
I just seen somebody in rays. I think it was
Pay maybe Pay award them his last fight.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Yeah, because I think you know, I think you know
obviously Everlast grant a winning uh rais and you mentioned rifle.
I've never heard of that. I've never heard of those
gloves before. Oh Joe, these eight these right here cut.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
It don't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
And listen, they cut for an object that's not moving.
It's different when there's an object in front of you
that's moving.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Oh man, yeah, hey, King, take that jab out there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do you just how I'm
gonna do all Tommy her and did Martin.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
I'll tell you what, yo, I box you for the gloves.
If you beat me, you get gloves.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
I don't want them gloves.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
I want Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
I want my dad though, I just want my awards.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
So you, hey, you gotta snap that thing out there
like a last See. Some people use that jab as
a finder. They ain't trying to do no damage. They
just trying to see. Okay, how far then I can
throw this right? But see, I'm trying to snap that thing,
pam like Leonard Lewis. No, Leonary Lewis had a nice jam.
Larry Holmes had jam.

Speaker 6 (01:12:27):
What I want to see your jab though, let me
see your jaz.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Are you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
That jab?

Speaker 6 (01:12:38):
Quit with that thing?

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Now? Quick with that thing? You court.

Speaker 6 (01:12:43):
Hey, Hey, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Finna, I'm finna paradadic. Come right back with something.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Man, Oh I know, hey, I done saw you, I
saw you, yo. Reflexes and his fancy you think now
fast no no no no no no no no no
no no no.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
See this is the funny thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
If everybody want to go back to when I fought
my young bull Brian Maxwell in the ring, that's different now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
You gotta understand.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
I didn't been in the ring now five years after that,
so I look, I look nothing like that now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
But the thing and your core you could take Sparring
is different than actually fighting, and you got to fight.
It's just like track and field. You could practice all
you want to, but you gotta get racist under your belt.
You gotta get in ring. You gotta get rounds and team,
not all that speedbag and all that mints and stuff. Nah,

(01:13:33):
you ain't did that. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
I know one thing what I got two people on
my hit list.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Oh James Harrison.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
James Harrison, I'm gonna beat his ass, Andre Warfen to
get his work and anybody else that won't smoke after that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Matter of fact, your core you could get it too, Damn.

Speaker 6 (01:13:51):
You know I ain't gonna lie. I already told you this, la.
Someone saw you. Don't do it to yourself, bro, do
it to it. Don't do it to yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Give my fifty nine hundred out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
I'm telling you this, Shy, whenever you hey, whenever you
want to get back in the gym, let me know.

Speaker 6 (01:14:07):
How you're gonna get me. How how many rounds you're
gonna get me.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
I can't go past eight, I give you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
I give a strong eight four minutes, four minute around
thirty second rest.

Speaker 6 (01:14:18):
I'm betting you ain't making it eight rounds.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
I bet he ate either eight four minute rounds with
thirty round at that kind of cardio, Bro, not forty
six in the past four.

Speaker 6 (01:14:30):
Yeah, you're gonna tell me what I'm dude, you ain't going.

Speaker 7 (01:14:33):
Out with.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
I'm home to my affiliate with boots. That's that's what
we had to do. That's what boat you have me doing.

Speaker 6 (01:14:41):
Far from eight four minute rounds.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
No, I only got four in. I only did, Frank.

Speaker 6 (01:14:45):
That's why I'm trying to tell you this ain't no
way gonna ate with me. I'm telling you get it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Get my fifty nine hundred dollars out of the ass too.
Your cool while you add.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
It, you think shits sweet? Huh No, you can't go
eight with me?

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Bro, different all right, hey, and don't hit him, don't
hit him. Don't hit him in his face because I
need his eyes. I need to be able to read
the prompter. But just tear his body up.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
I tell you, I'm not gonna hit him in the fish.
I'm gonna stretch his body.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Oh that's what I do, making making peel on himself.
I'm gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
I'm gonna be.

Speaker 6 (01:15:20):
I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
I'm ready for all that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
Many to the side, I'm gonna write to the side.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
That's what I want. That's what I like to see.
That's what I like to see. Your court, that's what
I'm talking about. Oh, you're gonna have depends on one
of his trunks.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Oh many, but all jokes inside, man, you put on
an f and boxing clinic.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Man, was amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Congratulations on that, man and shutting up all these doubters
and all of the haters. Not they're gonna find something
else to come up with. They're gonna find something else
to come up with. And you're gonna probably gonna answer
those questions too.

Speaker 7 (01:15:56):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
I just want to tell you congratulations on one hell
of a goddamn and career so far.

Speaker 6 (01:16:01):
I appreciate y'all. I appreciate y'all.

Speaker 7 (01:16:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Man, Thanks for your time. Man, congratulations, enjoy the rest
of the year off. Hey, we'll see you. We'll see
your early guests early in twenty twenty six and come
back and join us when you got some time. Bro,
appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (01:16:15):
I appreciate you too, all right, Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
How we go with oh Joe? Lead people alone?

Speaker 6 (01:16:23):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Damn?

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Oh no, Hey, you got to make sure people on
the on they p's and q's. You just never know,
you never know. So sometimes this is what you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Now we have guests on the show, right, yes, you
gotta you gotta check the guest temperature. Sometimes you gotta
check the guest temperature to see where they you know,
see where they at.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
So if you look at Shakura's eyes, you can see
he was a little scared. He was a little nervous
because you know, you know, he don't we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Hey, now, you know, I trained with Shaku for about
a week, you know, so we've been together in the ring,
and he he got an opportunity to see, for god damn,
that boy feeding nice. And then you know, my defense
was like that we were shadow boxing. I was like,
you know, so he got a good understanding.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, the thing is people, like I said,
with people that's in their profession that's really good at it.
You got to see them in their profession. You got
to see them in their habitat.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
You got to see them here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
You good appreciation.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
You got to see them close. I want him in.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Bud I had to do something with ESPN right and
they were training at the USC Gym in Vegas. That
God damn bud Man, let me take me less Cha
Creu was doing doing maybe six rounds with somebody who
was getting ready for a fight. It was a chess match.

(01:17:47):
It was a chess match, and you could just see
the artwork of the sweet science unfold right before you.
If you understand what you're watching, it's not just throwing punches,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
No, it was beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
It was beautiful to watch, man. It just and you
don't have an appreciation for it until you see it
up close. It's one thing to watch boxing on TV. Yeah,
it's one thing to watch it when you go to
a fight, ah, But to see it when they're in
training and to see the formula in which they worked
on unfold in real time in the ring.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
But you can actually see them, oh yoe. Without seeing them.
You can see them thinking, Oh that's what's the major part.
You actually see a guy thinking and he know what
I threw this. The only thing he can come back
with is that damn I catch it. Oh he will
come here. Oh there. I was like, damn, bro you hey.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
And you know what's so funny too, is when it
comes to boxes or boxes that are thinkers and they
set traps. Oh yeah, round one they'll set a trap,
and round two and won't and wait and won't try
to ex you what they.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Was trapping until round seven and eight and they.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Know what this Okay, I know we're gonna throw that
when it's coming. If I faint, I know we're gonna
do It's it's just a chess match.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
That's why I said.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
I think, to me, the most exciting fight for those
that are not just casual boxers that love and enjoy
the street science would be Lamar Roach and Shakur Stevenson.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Yeah, because thousand which they fight. I thought that would
be beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Man. I was watching the old thing of Floyd and
Corrals and how he was. Floyd kept, you know, he's
with the jab, and then he thought that he fainted
with the jab and caught it with a check hook.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Goddamn Digo. Man Diego was nice man. Rest in peace.