Nightcap Hour 1: Unc and Ocho react to Micah Parsons firing back at Jerry Jones and are joined by Claressa Shields and Raekwon

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the undisputed heavyweight women's champion of the world. Clarissa Shields, Clarissa.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
How are you? And I'm good?

Speaker 3 (02:37):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
We're doing amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, You're gonna be defending your heavyweight championship this weekend
in Detroit. You take on Landy Daniels at the Little
Caesar's Arena. I mean you just followed a couple of
weeks ago, Carrissa, damn you fighting like the old school
fighter used to fight.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
I'm far in February. It's a while ago.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
So let me ask you this. So you try to fight,
how many times are you? Realistically?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Ideally would you like to fight a year, two year, three,
a year.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
I would love to fight. I don't know if my
phone frozen on you guys.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yes, the video is frozen, but we can hear you.
She'll be back. She's having some technical difficulties. You know
that happened. I mean, hey, welcome to the world of television,
live television. Because this is unrehearsed, though, Joe, we don't
get to cut and say, don't worry about it. We

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can go back and pick it up and we'll start
from where we left off. You're back now, I ask,
I say, ideally, how many times a year would you
like to fight?

Speaker 5 (03:47):
I think three or four times is good for me.
You know that. I go on there, I win.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
I don't really get scratched up and banged up too bad,
so three to four is.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Good for me.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
You're taking on landings in Detroit Little Caesars. What do
you hope to accomplish because, and by many estimations, you
are the you know, it's a short list you and
we're going to talk about that a little later, the
greatest women boxes ever, So it's only a really short list.
So taking on her, I mean, what what do we
hope to accomplish in this? What do we what are

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we gonna get? When you do what you always do?
Come out here victorious.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
So Shannon, there's only one greatest woman of all time.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Okay, okay, okay, bad.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Bad talk to him and that is me.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
But what you can look forward to see it on Saturday.

Speaker 6 (04:36):
I don't know if you guys watched then All Women's
Card that happened with MVP July eleventh up in Masters.
Regarding a lot of those girls that fought were good.
They were ranked number two, three, and four in the world,
but number one did not did not fight, So you
didn't get to see the skills and the power in
everything that I possess. So that's what you're gonna see
on Saturday. And I'm bringing you know, I'm packing the

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house with fifteen thousand people. I'm well over a million
dollars at the gate already. We're going to do probably
close to two million dollar at the gate. I mean,
I am coming on. I'm coming out to put on
a show.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, the show for the people.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
And I'm coming there and I'm bringing power.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
I'm bringing skills, I'm bringing speed, and I want to
show you why I wear these greatest women.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
Of all time chained.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Okay, hold on, I got a question this and I
love I'm boxing through this. I love I love I
love the Sweet science, always have and been a fan
of yours for a very long time. Thank you all
all the thing you've accomplished today to this point, obviously
being the greatest woman of all time. How do you
stay motivated? How do you stay motivated to want more?

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And after this fight against Lanny Daniels, what's next? First?
Just talk to me about the motivation and what keeps
you going once you Broughty achieved so much in the
sport that you love.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
You know, right now, I'm sixteen and er right and
I'm the only four I'm undisputed champion in five divisions.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
And did I say seventeen time world champion already?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I think?

Speaker 6 (06:07):
And it's like, you know what, I want to retire
and I want them to say, oh, Clarissa was fifty
time world champion.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
You know, Cressa was undefeated.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
She fought against the best, She didn't dunck nobody, She
made the best fight, She showcased her skills against anybody.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
She was dominant. You know that motivates me.

Speaker 6 (06:24):
And like the fact that you know, it's not many
dollters out there who believe that I'm not the greatest
woman of all time, right, but if there is any
that's that motivates me to make them defense, you know,
like they may not like me, but they will respect
my craft and know that Okay, we may not like
her for what era their reasons are, but still respect

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my craft and know that I'm the best at what
I do. And when I'm the best at what I do,
you really can't jig me because you're not the best
at what you do.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
So in other words, you saying you're trying to convince
all you're trying to convert all those non believers into believers.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah, just like Jesus did.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Okay, there's news that came out you and Laila Ali,
who you know, when she was fighting, she was the
greatest woman a box of all time. Here come you
and you guys have been going back and forth and
I think it's being reported or you said you got
fifteen million, you say you want a fifteen million, Well
we got that.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
And now, so if you were to fight.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Her, Clarissa, can I say this, I don't really see
the upside for you because if you beat her, she's
almost fifty, she's.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Forty seventy back.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
And she said out her own mouth for the past
couple of years, how this thing even first started. She
said she would not come out of retirement and fight
nobody because nobody was good enough to give her a challenge,
knowing that me and her fought at the same weight class.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
And people think that I start to.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
Beef, but she said that, and I'm the number one
pompaw woman in the world. We fight that the same
way last I got the belts, I got the Olympic
gold medals. She even said, I think when she's gonna
broadcast when I was going for my first Olympic gold medal,
she said, oh, if they would they had the Olympics
back when I was coming up, I would have won
the Olympic gold medal.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
And she wouldn't have. She wouldn't have. I'm being honest
with you, she wouldn't have.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
You know, everything that thing that Layla says about me,
she's saying about herself. She says that I'm not like
I don't have enough skills to be her.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
She don't have enough skills to even compete with me.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
The only thing thing that that Laila has is her size.
She is a big woman. I mean, big hands, big beet,
big head, like Layla is a big lady.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
You know what, Clarissa, No, I'm saying like she's still
a beautiful woman. Don't get me wrong, but she's a
big lady.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
But you said that's a big target. You said big head,
big head means big target.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
Yeah, and if it was to fight, I would hit
that big targets.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
This uncle, sit back and let you take it. How
did the relationship sour.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Her when she did that?

Speaker 6 (09:04):
She goes on an interview and says, oh, I would
come my retirement, but there's no one good enough to
give me a challenge. There's no one's like, no one's
skilled enough, no one strong enough. I can just come
out of retirement after being out the being out the ring.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
At this time, it probably was like thirteen plus years.
So she said that she.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
Can not box for thirteen years in a professional boxing match,
and there's nobody who would give her a challenge if
she was to come out of retirement. And then she
even said she would knock me out. So therefore understand Yeah,
people got to understand, Like, I don't take stuff like
that lightly. It's like, you know what, let's put your
money where your mouth fits. I don't want to keep

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talking about Leilah. I actually quit talking about her years
ago because I'm like, you know, a fight's never gonna happen.
Every year she's getting older, she's never going to come
out of retirement.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Whatever. And then she come and.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Say, oh, the rumor I heard is if Clarissa got
fifteen to twenty million, then I'll well I got your
fifteen million.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Now what now?

Speaker 3 (10:09):
What you called it?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
The blood? You called her blood Clarissa.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah, and we are still waiting to hear a response.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Wait a minute, So you you are you are? You
are dead serious, regardless of age, regardless of how long
since she's been out the ring, you will still get
in the ring and fight her.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Layla told you all herself she is a healthy forty seven.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
She ain't old and ran down. She said she work out,
she still box, she jumped rope. She wrong, this was
she said. I didn say it.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
She said it right.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
It's still forty seven.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, Hey, well he needs to act.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
You know when they say at your age, we'll act
forty well, we'll act forty seven.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Because you don't want to come missing with a young
lion who's hungry. I like you who got the fifteen
million to make a fight happen.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
You know you don't do that, But I have a question,
and I'm I'm not clear. I'm not known for predicting
the future, but I already know based on what I've seen,
your resume speaks for herself. Everything you've done in the
ring to date speaks for herself. Your last fight, if
I'm not mistaken, was February. I don't remember the exact day,
but I did watch the fight and hell performance you
fight July twenty six this Saturday, Lady Daniels. What's after that?

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After you beat Miss Daiels. This is no disrespect to
her in her camping, what they're what they're working on
and hoping to accomplish. But we we know how the
end result is going to be. What's next after that?

Speaker 5 (11:38):
You know?

Speaker 6 (11:38):
I would love, like I said, to lock in the
fight with le Loy January February next year, tim Obile
Arena reached out to us and want to host the fight. Cowboys,
they don't want to host the fight be the biggest
women's boxing match in history, and it's fifteen million for her.
So I don't know what she waiting on, but I
know when I turned forty seven. I wish one of
these young girls would try to test my gangster. I'm

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coming right back to get that money.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Give it fifteen for her, what is it for you?

Speaker 5 (12:07):
We don't need to worry about what I'm getting because
first of all, you know, I'm the I'm the A side,
I'm the champion.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, let him know.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
Let's not you know, boom, but it's more of like
a still this was your number.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
We got that number.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
We got the number.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
So if you think you can beat me up and
I'm just so not skilled and I ain't got no
power and I ain't good, okay, but but if that
fight doesn't happen with Layla, I wanted to have one
more fight this year. Listen to anybody, should they Sagreene?
She just became champion recently. M franchise CRUs Yes, cannot

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mess with me. She can't fucking me at all.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
But whatever, she got a belt, so she want to
get banged up. She can get banged up.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
So you take how many bells you need, Clarissa, Damn,
you got like seven.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
I got seventeen, but I need fifty.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
I told you that I have one more question. I
have one more question, and I understand there's a way
difference obviously with the possibility if if it's even possible
for you to come down or for her to go
up with miss miss Bunganer, is that is that is that?

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Is it any way that's even possible? You got to
be joking, man, I'm just I'm just asking Mama, so
so so one so one.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
Me and Alicia, we we kind of squashed our beef,
you know, probably okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Alicia know that it's the difference between being good and great.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 6 (13:50):
And she's working her way toward being great, you know,
and she just ain't got enough.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
She ain't got enough ass behind her.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
To Yeah, she ain't got enough breaks in her back pocket.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
To be able to stand up and ask.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's why I asked.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
That's why I asked. I mean, yeah, but you're coming down,
that's all.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
If it was a fight that could be made, the
lowss to be one fifty four for me, she had
to come to fifty four.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
And I think I saw her last year.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
She said she weighed one forty seven back when she
was doing her you know, at Claresca Shields. Tour back
when we was beefing and she got up to one
forty seven. So if she could, you know, come up
to fifty four and I go down to fifty four,
I would love to.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Make a fight with her, just to prove to her.

Speaker 6 (14:32):
Listen, I can kill myself to make this weight and
then still come out here and beat you in the
boxing match.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
But let me ask you this, what about a rehydration clause?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Because she's they're probably gonna want that because that I
mean you coming down, You're coming down a couple of
weight classes to get to fifty four.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
Yeah, I'm not gonna do no rehydration clause because when
you understand how you lose weight and how much water
is water is important, you don't.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
You don't play those type of games.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
So I will never put myself in danger like that
to where like and make the way. But not being
able to read, to read to rehydrate, it's just not good.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Okay, understandable, understandable, But hey, can I can I put
my hat? Can I put my hat in the in
the ring river? So listen, if the fight happens with
you and Leila Ali for whatever reason, whatever the date
may be, can I be on the undercard, please, I'm asking.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
He knew you was going to say something about you
fighting today. I just knew it.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
I knew it.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
Oh, Joe, this is not it.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
And andre Ward we got some month finished business, like,
who do you want to fight?

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Me?

Speaker 3 (15:39):
And andre Ward? We got some month finished business.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Oh justin go let we gotta match you up fairly.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
No, that that's fair, since it's fair. My handistered in
the state of the bottle. Andre andre Ward just said yes,
my yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know lin people they
lump up easy.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Lord Hines Ward, not Andre Hines.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yeah, you're gonna have to go with like maybe a KSI.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
No, no, no, no, no, don't do me like, don't
do like that. Don't do like that. Listen he listen.
We've been going at it back and forth for a
very long time, similar to how you and Alicia were,
similar how you and Leila lear So me and A. Well,
we have to we have to squash this beef that
we have.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
You know, sometime the only way to squash the beef
is to fight.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (16:30):
Tell that sometimes, get it out the way, thank you.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
So put put us on the undercr please, that's all.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
So if the fight get made. I would definitely let
my team know we need to get O Joe and
andre Ward. I promise you I will keep that in
my mind and let them know. Listen, this is O
take Okay, I see you, Okay, Okay.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
If Joe, I'm putting this, I'm putting this out right
now with the hands now.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
If Ward, I'm looking for a new partner for Nightcap.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
There are you don't believe in me?

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Nah? Not against andre Ward?

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Hold on time time if if, if this happens, I
go in there with a night with the with the
with the with the nightcap, trunks, the night roll, you know,
and you know I'm I'm representing us. You're gonna bet
against me? A bitch your boy?

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Hey, they pay, he probably knock them off you So
they be in the ring. I just go in the
ring and get him.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
So I got a question for you, Yeah, man, have
a boxing match. Who would you want to fight against.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
If I had a boxing match? Yeah, Clarissa, I'm fifty seven.
I don't want to box nobody.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
No, don't do that. Don't do that because it's.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Got other man. That's fifty said. But who you who
you want to punch in the face, man, talk to us.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Hey, I don't got you old, I ain't got no
beef no more.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Nah. May we can't do that, man, I don't know
if you got to stand on business, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
I I'll punch a few folks in the face.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
You got, well, you chose the right profession because it
seemed like you gotta. You got some anger issues going on, Clarissa,
that you have to resolve what you getting to the square?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Damn? Have you always as a child? Did you?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Did you fight a lot as a child? Were you
confrontational as a child? I mean, somebody say something to Clarissa,
you like it's on site.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
People was confrontational to mem I won confrontational.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
I didn't know how to talk till I was five,
and I stuted real bad till I was eleven years old.
I couldn't even talk completely, and people bullied me, okay,
and that's what made me angry, Like despite the stuff
that I went through at.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Home, now now I'm going to school. Kids is pulling
my hair. Kids is taking my homework and copying it
and ripping it up.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
And so I went through that first, second, first and
second grade, and then when third grade came.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
It was over. I was kicking butt, I was kicking ass.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Man.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
It was over for them after that.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
And I learned that when you sent, when you pick
up for yourself, people leave you alone. I didn't start
bucking until sixty grade. So from the time third grade
all the way to the sixth I had gotten too
a few little street fights, but they always started with people.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Picking with me. I never picked with people.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
I really didn't want to fight because I didn't know
if I if I could fight my It was my
anger that drove me to push people, pull people, grab
them and just see and you know, see what I
could do. But the first fight that I ever got
into was with my little sister Browna. And when I
tell you, Brown up with my ass when I was
eight nine years old, Brown to beat the shit out

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of me.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
You didn't want to go through that anymore.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
My sister was a minute to society.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
Man.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
She could do so much mean stuff to me growing up. Man,
I'm telling you, it was wild.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
But let me let me ask Let me ask you this, Clarissa,
if you could fight any woman past the present? Obviously,
Lailah leaves on the on the car because you know
the big payday you're talking about is probably a million
plus prey per view vibes. Probably if it's a Jerry's World,
you're talking about seventy eighty thousand fans. If a T mobile,

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you'll probably sell that out. But if I mean, who
would you like to fight? Would you like to fight?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
And Wolf?

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Would you like to fight? Christy Martin the cole Miner's daughter.
Who would you like to fight?

Speaker 2 (20:16):
I would.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
I would stop Christy Martin. That's not even a competition.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Cause you're a little small for you will I.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Will knock her out. So now next the only other
woman that'd be a dream fight for me?

Speaker 6 (20:28):
If I would have to say one being a wolf
and two k Taylor Katy because her skills are phenomenal.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
The girl can box, can bang, she can figure it out.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
She's a highly competitive thinker in size of the ring
and she wins all her fights that way. She may
I knock you out, but she's gonna outthink you and
I would love to share a ring with her if
we were near the same size. But she's one forty
and like I said, loads I can go. It's one
fifty four.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
And then as far as an Anne Wolf listen.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
And was she was.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
People know Layla because Layla had the name and Layla
was a good boxer.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
But for Layla and an Wolf.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
To be in the same way class and to never
fight and him be the same era, we all know Layla,
I'll leave ducked and Wolf and why she ducked a
Wolf because Ann Wolf will knock your dim head off. Yeah,
and that's a fight. Even I watched the An Wolf
documentary on YouTube when I was a kid.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
I watched her push trucks and punch bags and.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
Lift wait and if you look up Ann Wolf versus
Bond award the biggest knockout in women's boxing.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
I dream to have a knockout like that.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
I a dream match between her and I I would
love to have only because I don't think I can
be knocked out. But with her in the first three rounds,
I had to be very worried about that. I think
I can box, I can move, and I can figure
her out and I got enough power to deal with
my own. But man, she catch it on first three rounds.

(22:07):
It's some stuff you got to fight through. So that
would be a dream fight for me. If we were
in the same era and we were fighting, but that
would be somebody who I'm like, Yo, that's the woman
who I'm kind of intimidated by. And just to mention her,
She's coming to my fight on Saturday to support me
and be there for me. And this is one of

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my idols, you know, and I'm just so happy.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
That she's coming.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
You need if people that don't know about Ann Wolf,
you need to. You need a Google her or YouTube
or whatever you need to do, because she definitely had
dynamite in her hands.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I mean, she was a vicious she was ferocious.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
She was I have one more question. Hold on, I
got one more question.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
We know how great you are, greatest woman of all
time when it comes to boxing. What other passion once
you're done playing? I'm about playing. Once you're done boxing?
Once a sweet science? Want you hang the gloves up?
What other hobbies are you interested in? What else is
it that you like to do outside.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Of the ring?

Speaker 5 (23:07):
Music?

Speaker 6 (23:09):
I just have my listening party today in anyway, very well,
you know everybody. I had nine songs and they rated
all my songs and ten.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
I was so shock.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
There we go.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
I like music and honestly, I'm a big community person.
I want to train.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
Young girls and young boys who come from environments that
I grew up in, and I want to teach them
boxing so boxing can help them like it helped me.
You know, it really changed my life and helped me
redirect my anger. And I really don't look like what
I've what I've been through. So I want to give
back to communities and help people learn self defense. And

(23:47):
I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna have kids within my career,
so I don't have to stop my career to do that.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
So, yeah, let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Let's say this for the sake of argument, Leala says,
you know what, Clarissa, you won't this work. I'm gonna
give you this work, but I want you to put
that chain up. I want you to put the gloat up.
And if I beat you, I don't ever want to
hear you say mentioned greatest woman.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Of all time. I don't want that. I want that chain.
You're gonna put the chain up?

Speaker 5 (24:18):
And mean she wants the little one or the big ones?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I won't he won't that right there.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Because that's the one that cost a honey.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
K right here, that's what that's what she wants.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Yeah, she she she come out retirement and she shut
me up and beat me up.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
I will put you put it right that, I'll put
it on that and I'll snap it close for and
let her. You can have it, booth, you can have
That's but that's how confident I know that this ain't
what you want.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
This ain't what you want.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Clarissa, you seem very happy. You seem very happy now.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Maybe it's because a lot of your your your personal
life has been made public, and maybe you had someone
in your life that was behind the scenes. But why
you you know, we know some of the same people
we know Jamie Fritz. But watching you now, you seem
a lot more at peace. You seem a lot, a
lot more happy than you were in the past. Am
I assuming too much? Am I reading too much into

(25:14):
your body language and the way you're moving now?

Speaker 6 (25:18):
No, I have to say that one I'm I'm thirty
years old now. But I can say that since I've
met I've met Pat Pools, he has brought a whole
different woman out of me. I guess, like I listen
to him. He can tell me to be quiet, okay,

(25:39):
and he knows how to fight, you know, So I
can't bully him around, to push him around, and you know,
he is just so he's so kind to me and
he's so helpful. That I've always had to do everything myself,
you know, and that's dealing with my family, deal with
my friends, dealing with my business.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
I've had to do everything myself since seventeen years years old.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
And now I have somebody that really like have my
back and my best interest and who I mean looked
after me when I don't even want him looking after me,
like he's so protective. And you know, I think that
with him, I wouldn't be able to like I would
be happy, because I was working on my happiness before
I met him, But meeting him it just gave me,
Like I think, when you find your person, you can

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just talk to him about anything and about any problem.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
Like I call him and listen, I talked most shit
than a little bit, you know, and I.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
Call him about everything, and I mean, he always has
his ear open to communicate and talk with me and
give me great advice and also to let me know, like, look,
you're wrong here, you know.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
And I just appreciate that. It's so many tweets and
so many posts that I was about to.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
Put up and he's like, he like, don't do it.
It's because he knows my bigger picture and he's helping
me get to that. So I think that with him
helping me and him being so supportive, of him being
so kind to me, it's really just.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
I feel like I have I have a great, great
partner in crime and we and we're going somewhere special.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
So yeah, you can. You can say that he made
he made me more womanly.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I like that. I like that.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think to someone to share that because I guess
for the longest time I heard you, you know, talk,
I've seen you on different platforms, and you're talking about
how your family when you became successful, even though you
did all of that, they still some of them turned
their back on you. And still the more you gave,
the more they wanted. And it's said, and you said,
and I and I took took note of this. You

(27:43):
said they didn't want what you gave them, they want
what you had. Yeah, what do you mean by that?
Tell our chat that didn't hear you on other platforms
talk about that? What did you mean by that?

Speaker 5 (27:55):
They don't they don't want what you give them.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
You can give them one hundred dollars, you can give
him a car, you can give him a house and
give them food. They don't they don't want that. They
want what you have. So what do you have? You
got a nice house, you got the popping YouTube channels,
you got the million dollar partnerships and endorsements and sponsorships.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
They want that.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
They don't want when you're giving them a thousand dollars
and ten thousand and fifteen thousand dollars, when you helping them,
when you're paying their bills, you buying them cars.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
They don't want that. They want your car, they want
your house.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
But you worked for that.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
They didn't absolutely And that's where for a long time,
you know, I didn't know how to say no. And
when I started saying no, that's what people who I
say yes to before hundreds of times had the biggest issue.
That's when it was oh, she boogie, oh, she don't
care about her family, she don't take care of nobody.
And you know, out of everything that I've been through,

(28:54):
the hardest one to deal with doing that was my
younger sister because we came up together, right, you know,
and she got three kids and I help her take
care of her kids, like all her kids caught me.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Mama, like her kids.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
Is my kids when she have a eleven year old,
an eight year old and a five year old and
it's my little niece. And nobody wouldn't people think that
I have.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Kids because I have them so much.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
And you know, I'm the type of auntie where I'm
sending groceries every week, I'm buying clothes, I'm buying school clothes.
So for me, the hardest part when I start going
through that, A lot of other people did it too,
but it was her that really hurt me. Yeah, and
we got say Mama, same daddy, And she really is
like people see me as this light and shining, you

(29:43):
know star, But Brianna is my darkness. You know, she
is my darkness and she's the opposite of me. But
she understands that I got that same darkness inside of me.
I just showed the light all the time. But she's
like how I am inside the ring. Brianna is like
that every single day of her life. She will she
will literally put hands on you like she will knock

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you out. Like she send me videos of her fighting
all the time, Like Brian you need to stop, but
she will knock your head clean off, you know, and you.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Need to get us some blood. Then, Clarissa, have you
had a conversation with your sister. Did you tell your
sister like, this hurts me after everything that I've done
for you and your kids, which are my nieces and nephews,
After everything that I've done, Brie, really, this is the
way you behave this is the way you act towards me.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Social media has its pros and cons.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
But when she seen an interview that I did with
andre Ward and where I was crying, you know, she
caught me and she said, everybody's talking about it's hard
at the top.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
She said, well, damn, it's her at the bottom too.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
But that's not your fault.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
No, But I'm like, I'm like what you mean? She
was like, rest, you know, I'm struggling all the time
and you're not. So that's where her Ennemoss City came from.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
I was, you know, even though I was helping her people,
getting in her mind and in her.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Head telling your sister should do more for you, and
it was like.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yep, yep, my girl.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
Done a lot for you.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
So when we talked, she was like rest she You know,
one we went four months without talking, which my family
knows that I don't do that. I talked with my
mom and my dad, even they made me upset. I
still talk to them. I really went on like a
hiatus where I ain't talk to my sister for like
four months, and then she would have the kids called me,

(31:34):
and I would only talk to the kids and I
wouldn't talk to her. And it went on for four months,
and one day she just hit me and was like, look,
I want my sister back.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
You know, I'm sorry. I messed up. I'll never do
it again.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
And you know, it is what it is. You know,
you know that I got you through whatever, you know.
But I just feel like, Yo, where I'm trying to
get to in my career, I can't have any going
live on Facebook, lying on me, telling folks not to
get tickets to the fights and shit like I can't.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
I can't have that.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
And I mean it was deep the stuff that she did,
but she had people, you know, in her ear, and
people gonna believe.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
That because that's your sister.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
You know, Normally, when family says something about an individual
because they're so close, y'all grew up together. This is
not some arbitrary and some willing nill in person talking.
This is your blood sister.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
Yeah, And that was the problem that I had was
everybody took her word for face value when and then
I didn't want to get on a social media back
and defend myself because it was like, oh, I'm trying
to be above that, but I literally had to.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
It started affecting ticketselves from my last.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
For my fight was it two years ago? Yeah, and
I'm like, it was a week of the fight, you know.
So she telling people, oh, she on the red crocodile tears,
you know, don't come to the fight. She don't support
her family. She bought one of her friends a house,
which I did not, but people believe that. It was

(33:05):
like I had to and try to clear it up.
But you know, people love negativity more.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Before you go that that issue that you have in Claricia,
all athletes, not just all athletes. I can only speak
from from our perspective and playing football and having to
talk to rookie before and learning to say no because
your family, when it comes to your family, your family
redrain you. They were drained because in the hard part
for athletes, and players. They have to understand it's okay

(33:35):
to take care of your family. It's it's okay to
enjoy the fruit to your labor and blessing those back
that help you along the way. But those that take
they have no limits because they don't they don't understand
what it took to get to that point because they
have nothing. Sometimes you know, obviously there the unfortunate circumstances
that happened, but when one person makes it, they expect

(33:56):
that one person to be the gold ticket, the golden ticket,
and they can team to take over and over and
over and never knowing when to stop until that well
run dry. So at some point, the hard part of
being the one that makes it out the family is
knowing when to say no, because at some point, if
you continue to pull that water from the well, at

(34:17):
some point and gonna run dry.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Yeah, I agree, Clarissa.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I think the thing is what I tell people, that
is a great gesture if you choose to help brother, sister, cousin, aunt, uncle,
but you're non no obligation see people to see people
have got this notion because we came up in the
same house, or I saw you from a child, or
I changed difles on you that that obligates you to

(34:44):
take come someone for the rest of their life, or
buy them a house or buy them a car out
of the kindness of your heart. That is a that
is an unbelievable gesture. But we've got to stop trying
to put that burden, trying to guilt people in because
because the first that they're gonna say you don't they say,
Clarisa and I had this to note you. I know
you've had it. If it was me, I help you.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
No, it's the one.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
If I was you, I'll help you more than you
helped me. So they don't even care about how much
helping them. They just saying, oh, I do way more
for you, And I'm.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
Like, no, no, you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
And the first thing, and when there's no more money,
and somebody said, man, what happened off Parystal money?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Man, I don't know what she did with that money.
I gave it to you. I tried to.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Help you, you you you you, And now I ain't
got no money, ain't nobody got no money.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
And now y'all talked about y'all don't know where the
money went.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
I had to I had to tell myself I said, listen,
if I was to stop boxing the day and I
ain't have another dollar, who would pay my bills? I
got a four thousand dollars mortgage on my seven hondrey
fiftoud dollars house up in Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Oh you had the crib there, Okay, I own a
few cribs. You know you're talking to the boss. Come on,
I got hold on you, list on you. I don't
be on my banks now, our own houses and cars.
I don't just beat out here with the blein bleing.
Oh t I'm like you, you know what I'm saying.

(36:08):
Sometime some stuff you see it and be like, hold
on that right there is the knockoff. But just right here,
I'm knockoff. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Talk to me now, you know?

Speaker 5 (36:16):
So No, for me, it was like I said, if
I stop right now, who will pay these bills? These
car notes? You know?

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Pay for how I like to eat?

Speaker 5 (36:24):
I like to eat. I'm a heavyweight. I like to
eat steak and eat at the finest places.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
So I'm like, right now, I'm probably my bills altogether,
probably about ten thousand dollars a month with all my
bills together, right, So it was like, right now, if
I had to freeze my bank account and I and
I couldn't use my money, who will help me pay
that ten thousand dollars make sure that I got my house, my.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
Car, my insurance, everything, Who will help do that? And
it's sad to say, but it's not many folks who
you can rely on to even team up, you know.
So that's why I'd be like, Hey.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
I'm so glad you just said that. I'm so glad
you just said that. For those that are in the chat,
I'm not sure how much you help your family, but
I know everyone else is gonna see this, especially my
fellow athletes. Whatever it is you play, rappers weapon be like,
just think about that hypothetically, Like Clarissa just said, if
just so happened, God happened, you ran out everything, go

(37:27):
through your phone right now and whatever your overhead is
a month or whatever you may need. Who can you
call on your phone right now that you know, no
matter what, they gonna say, yes that you have to
take you.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
Yes, I can tell you right now.

Speaker 6 (37:43):
My best friend Niinmi will probably be like, hey, I
can't pay your ten thousand dollarge that you can come
stay with me and I make sure you.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
Eat every day.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
Yeah yeah, until you get back on your feet. But
ain't nobody gonna be like, hey, we got ten thousand
for your month. Oh, ain't no path. Pap will take
care of me.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
He take care of me.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
Yeah, but I'm thinking like, not my relationship, but you know,
family and stuff. It's not one person I could I
could call for that.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Clarissa, thanks for stopping by.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Good luck on the fight, and please, please, if this
fight is to get made with you and Laila Ali,
please come back on night cap.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
Of course, you're not supposed to come back and do
like the do the Big One with you. Yeah yeah,
I spposed to do club with you. So let me know.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, wait a minute, wait
a minute. Let you talk about after this fight, the
next fight that she does do. I'm on the undercar, remember, oh.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Joe, we're talking about this.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
I told you, if I told you five nights a week,
I don't need you to bring your black ass back.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I'm talking to her.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
I told you all the time. Clarissa, good luck, go ahead.
What are you gonna say yes.

Speaker 6 (38:57):
So just I want to celebrate some. I'm just with
my fans and with y'all fans too. This is my
first gate where I've done over a million dollars, well
over a million dollars. It's my first gate. We have
over fifteen thousand people who have bought tickets to come
to the fight.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I am so.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
Just overjoyed by that.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
So all the fans who are listening to, all my
fans who love me, thank y'all so much.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
It's only a few tickets left, so I want to
be able to say once we once I win this fight.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
You know, we had to sold out little Caesars a
renta here in de Traite, so please get.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
The rest of your tickets on ticket Master. It's not
that many left. All the floor stias are gone. And
even if you're not come into the fight.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
You for the y'all ticket, even if you ain't coming,
just so I can say I sold out, So help
me out.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Okay, congratulations with all your success, two time goal with
Olympic gold medal winning boxer Hey undefeated heavyweight champion'r seventeen
time world champ ristal shields.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Thank you, Clarissa. Good luck on Saturday. My dog.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
Well, hope to see you so thank you, appreciate y'all,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Carissa shields Man is great talking to her to see
you know, obviously she channeled that what she was going
through as a child. You know, she said she didn't
speak till she was five, She had a speech impediment
till she was eleven, and she got tired of being bullied.
She got tired of being picked on, and she channeled
that into something good. And to see her what she
overcame and you to see her turn into a two

(40:27):
time Olympic gold medal winning boxer, the heavyweight, undisputed heavyweight
champion of women's boxing, seventeen time world champ.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
She is to be commended. Congratulations and continued success. Clarensa,
she is the real deal.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
It's one thing I don't think people understand how difficult
it is. Right, we'll not difficult, but it's easy to
be angry. It's easy to do. But it's one thing
to be able to take that anger and environment and
channel it in a relaxed manner. Yep, controlled chaos, that's
all it is. That's all about controlled you know, oh man,

(41:02):
that's it's a beautiful thing, especially when you watch it
done right the way she does it. It's an awesome
thing to see.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
It's unbelievable. Oh Joe, Okay, let's switch gears.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Michael Parkson spoke at training camp today about the lack
of a new deal.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Listen to what he had to say.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Damn, like you've discouraged by the fact that it's taking
this long.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Honestly.

Speaker 8 (41:24):
Yeah, when you go around the league and you see
these other teams taking care of their best guys, I
see TJ got taken care of you know, Max got
taken care of, Miles got taken care of him. He
got two years blest on his stil So it's hard
to Yeah, you see a lot of paper around league
and taking care of you didn't know, but you had.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Something like, you know, that same type of energy.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
You know, it's hard to not take it personally.

Speaker 8 (41:48):
I would to say it's hard not to take it personally.
And you know how there's a when there's a you know,
chain of events, if something consistent happening over the course
of years, when you kind of see it before through
other players, So you don't take that.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
You don't take a person when.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
You're like all right.

Speaker 8 (42:03):
It's not like I'm getting treated differently than anyone else,
you know.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
So I don't take a person.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
I just I just don't understand.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Hey, you can see the hurt. Yeah, he's hurt.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Here. Here, you hear it because you hear him more, Joe.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
You heard what he said. He say, they took care
of TJ. They took care of Max, they took care
of Miles. The nail Hunter got a new deal because
d nail Hunter deal was after Max Crosby. Crosby got
thirty five and a half, Danail got thirty five point
six and then what you come? Jump way to forty
and now TJ comes in at forty one and he's like, look,
look at all these guys. I've been consistent. Now, I

(42:37):
haven't wonted Defensive Player of the Year like TJ. I
haven't wont a Defensive Player of the Year like Miles Garrett.
But I've gone to the Pro Bowl every single year.
I was a Rookie of the Year. I've been an
All Pro player. So where is you know, what about
the reward for my work? And I said and and
and he was banging. He was nicked up. And so
that's why the production even nicked up, he still got

(42:59):
twelve and a halfe twelve and a half thirteen facts.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Even Nick, He's.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Going out there giving you everything, everything that he possibly
can and to have my owner says that about me. Look,
you can feel any type of way, right, I already
know how you feel. I think I know how you
feel because you haven't rewarded my play twenty six. I
don't want you to pay me for what I've done

(43:24):
because I've gone to the Pro Bowls. I've gone to
I've been an All Pro, I've been Defensive Rookie of
the Year. You compensated me for that. You holding up
is telling me that your doubt that I can continue
what I've been, what I've started.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, I don't. I don't get Jerry, and some things
are not for me to understand. But I don't understand this, right.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
So one thing, one thing I thought about, always thinking
about this, and in Michael Parson's situation, he can take
it personal because you seen Jerry do this to multiple players.
He did to that, he did the same thing the
City Lamb. He did the same thing that execul Ellen.
You told me multiple stories about situation that going on
with Emmitt Smith, with Jimmy Johnson. So this is just
him in general. Most of the time you think about it,

(44:05):
the owner like Jerry Jones obviously the most profitable franchise
in sports in general, the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Let's throw on the helmet, got to cut you off
on yo.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I just saw a thing today because the Green Bay
Packers are publicly traded because.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
They're a cheff.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I saw that too, every chat, every team, all thirty
two teams, four hundred thirty two point five million dollars.
Let me repeat, four hundred thirty two million. Now, that's
what they got from the TV and all the league
wide deals. That's not local TV, that's not local radio.

(44:42):
That's not confession, that's not parking, that's not ticket sales,
that's not merchandise. Yeah, so that's one big screen. They
got six other buckets that they can pull from.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Go ahead, o Joe.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
So the Dallas Cowboys, obviously Jerry Jones is in the
making money. We understand what this bottom line is. Obviously
the bottom line isn't about winning because the NFL is
a copycat league owner. See what other owners do, and
if you want to if you want to win games,
if you want to compete and build a team that
can hopefully help you reach the Super Bowl. I mean,

(45:19):
you just copy what you see other owners do. But
the Philadelphia Eagles is.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Right down to Jeffrey Lord.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
It ain't that hard. You see what Jeffrey Lourie and
Howie Roseman do every single year. They pay the players.
None of their players a crop. I'm not going to
excuse me. None of their players are complaining or sitting
on the sideline or holding out or doing interviews, nor
are they in front of the camera every chance they
get because they have one end goal, one end goal

(45:45):
in line in mind. Just as the players were coming
in trying to get a Super Bowl. It's about business,
and their business is about winning. Jerry, think about no
winning man. Jerry is trying to show I'm in control.
I'm going to make you wait. The longer I make
you wait, the more attention we as a Cowboys team get.

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He continued to do the same thing each and every
year with their star players and then taking shots at
them publicly. Lets me know. It gives me a clearer
picture and a clear indicator indication that he's really not
serious about putting the team together that can win.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Look at look at Kansas City. Kansas City or played
their players and they say, you know what, you've been
great here. We can't pay you. We're gonna put you somewhere.
We'll put you somewhere where you can. Yes, Lugarious need
we can't pay you, But what if we were to
trade you to somewhere that can trade you.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Look at what they did. Look at what they did
to Pat Mahon. They're taking care of Kelsey.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
They took care of all their receivers until Tyreek priced
himself out of Kansas City because they had other things.
They knew they had Chris Jones. They just signed Coloftus.
Look they got they're gonna have to do something with McDuffie.
They are bolting Tray Smith. They took care of him. Yeah,

(47:07):
they paid Buckner the Kicker.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yeah. Teams that are serious. They get it done.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
But it's hard.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
It's hard because you have an owner who understands the
value in the franchise. You have an owner and an
owner who understands how do I continue to keep the
news on me? How do I continue to keep the
news on us? Despite not winning the past thirty years,
news cycles continuously talk about three teams, the Cowboys, the Lakers,
and the Yankees, whether winning and weather losing, they're always

(47:40):
in the news, They're always in the cycle. So Jerry
has mastered that in being able to manipulate situations to
where the attention is always on them, and he's done
it phenomenally. You look at the news today, Uh, the
news today watching ESPN training camp has started. It's thirty
two teams.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
We talk about the Cowboys all day. What the hell
is going on?

Speaker 3 (48:02):
So now I get to the point where wait a minute,
but Jerry playing mind games with everybody?

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, no purpose, He's doing this on purpose. Oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
We got a special guest joining us shore Us with
his eighth studio eighth studio album, Emperor's New Clothes, out
to Mass Appeal, featuring Wu Tang Clan members ghost Face, Killer,
Method Man, Inspector Deck as well as Nas.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Here he is Ray Quard, What to do?

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Stay Shay, Show what up? Fellas?

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Show what they do? Baby? What's good?

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Sh ain't shit? Old show? What's the word?

Speaker 3 (48:39):
And I'm here man one foot from the other man.
They're trying to make it happen with my head hih,
so I can see where I'm going, baby, that's it.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
There you go.

Speaker 7 (48:45):
That's all we could do, right, That's all we could do.
Keep on, Kwan, tell us about the album, mis what
what are you like about?

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Tell me? Tell me?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Tell me the thought process. I'm going in. I'm gonna
do my eighth studio album. What's the thought process?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
What are you looking for?

Speaker 4 (49:01):
First and foremost, what I'm looking for is to tears
ship up.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
I'm one of them.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
I'm one of them.

Speaker 7 (49:08):
When I come back around, Nigga's gonna know I came
back around because Okay.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
That's what I take it.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
For real.

Speaker 7 (49:14):
I take it like the fights. You see your brother
got the rod on. You know, it's serious. It's serious
with me, but not on a real note. Though I've
been I've been out the game.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
You know.

Speaker 7 (49:24):
I ain't gonna say out the game, but I've been.
I've been doing other businesses and I've been away from
my penning path for about seven years. So I knew
it was time to come back and Blant Blant Brothers
with another joint.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
You know.

Speaker 7 (49:36):
So you know, I've never been one of those artists
to try to rush and continuously drop job job job dropped,
you know, like a Marvin gay baby, So I.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
Gotta sit down, figure shit out.

Speaker 7 (49:48):
Certain beach is gonna hit me when it's time, But
right now was the moment of truth for me to
step in.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
You know, you said something very interesting. You say you've
been away from your pen in the path for about
seven years. Even though in the process of when you're away,
do you even do a little sketching. You're like, okay,
you know this, even though you know that it's not
quite time for you to go full underground right focusing

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and start writing.

Speaker 7 (50:16):
Absolutely absolutely that ain't I'm not saying I'm walking away
like I close the door on it. Naw, we don't
close the door. We always looking. We always fishing, you
know what I mean. I might run into a producer
on the road and I'll be like, damn, I always
want to work with you, you know what I'm saying,
and then we entertaining that thought. But at the end
of the day, I might just tell a nigga, yo,

(50:37):
send me a fifty back, and I might be through
the fifty piece. It might be like, Yo, I like this,
I like that, I like this, and then that's that's
when I start my process of tuck.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
That's when the creative juices get going.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
All right.

Speaker 7 (50:49):
I start the chuck. I start the chuck, and like
I said, I sit on it for a minute. And
that always been my mistique to my music. It's like
a lot of shit. Niggas be hearing it. Don't be
like the beat was here yesterday, you know what I mean.
I might have been like Yo, this one was designed
two years ago, and I tucked it because I knew
that when I hit a nigga with it right now,

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it's gonna feel.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Like it was done now. So it's just my weird process.
I do things right now.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I have a listen.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
I love music.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
I'm a music enthusiast, and I've always been a fan
of yours, A huge fan of yours. Retained the rest
make y'all the whole crew as. But I'm thinking about
music in general and the way it sounded back then
we was all young. The way it sounds now is
completely different. At any point, despite what the music sounds
like today, I've listened to the album One Life, Open Door,

(51:42):
six hundred School. You were meth Man man doing what
y'all always do. Does it matter how music sounds today?
And how hard to remain your truth? In itself and
keeping that New York sound. No matter what the music
sounds like today, I.

Speaker 7 (51:56):
Don't get caught up in what what anything sounds like
more because a lot of shit got let in that
I may not like it, that's just my opinion, but
I'm not hate on it. But one thing I'm not
going to do is allow what it is today to
dictate me as an artist and where I'm going and
how I want my music to be dictated.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Right, So I'm always gonna stay in my lane.

Speaker 7 (52:19):
It's like, it's like being a sixty to fifty year
old nigga in a in a in a in a
club with a bunch of twenty yearls that don't look
So I've never been that type of dude to sit
here and say, oh, this is the new sound they like.
So let me try to let me try to get you.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Kwanity. That's what I do.

Speaker 7 (52:40):
That's right, and and I do it to the point
where I say, in my mind, I still gotta grow,
still gotta make it new, you know what I say.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
But I won't.

Speaker 7 (52:50):
I won't do something that out of the box that
I know that I'm not comfortable with. And I know
my my doghard. Fans might look at me like, yo, nigga,
what you're doing?

Speaker 4 (53:00):
You know because I have tried shit. I have tried
shit shay, and it's like.

Speaker 7 (53:04):
You know, my fans, they they hard on me, and
I love it because I love them because they made
me who I am besides my crew. But my fans,
I try things like say fancist, right, niggas be like, yo,
I want you to keep giving us this, giving us this,
giving us this, And I'm like saying to myself like
that's cool. But what happens when I want to give

(53:25):
you something like I'm wanna give your apple, I want
to drop a gym on you. So you know, it
fluctuates and then when I do find myself slipping away
a little bit trying to please everybody, then they like, yo,
we want the whole shit again.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
We want Yeah.

Speaker 7 (53:40):
So I never really categorized what I do is music
is music. If you love it, it feel good, It
vibes to you, it vibes to your soul.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
I did my job. I ain't sitting there trying to.

Speaker 7 (53:51):
Act like I gotta follow what manuscript everybody else doing, because.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
I know y'all love me for what I bring to
the table.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
And I think that's the hardest part a quant is
that when you look at it, everybody's like, man, all
he does is the same thing, same thing, same thing.
When you give them something new, they're like, well, I
want the old guy back. I want the old guy back.
So how do I how do I evolve When I
try to give you something new and you say you
want the old the old quand back, right.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
I just basically give up on trying to please everybody.
I just gotta know. I just gotta know that at
the end of the day, do a sound good? Is
it the sandwich?

Speaker 7 (54:29):
We're gonna take the sandwich, or we're gonna try the song.
And me and my team we sit around and they
be honest with me, you know what I mean, because
if they try to change me, they gonna know that
at the end of the day, I'm gonna look at
them and I'm gonna be like, you sure you know
what I'm saying. And it's to the point where I think,
as an artist, we do have to listen to one another.

(54:50):
I don't never want to be one of those, you know,
artists that just ain't ready to hear be optimistic with
somebody that they.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Makes sense on something.

Speaker 7 (54:59):
It's like back in the day days we make a
bunch of a bunch of hardcore reality records and niggas say, damn,
you ain't got nothing up there. For the females, I'm like, nah,
I ain't knowing that time right now.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
But then.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
Give you a look like and then that'll make me
be like, all right, I got I got it. I
gotta do that right.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Can I ask you this what happened to the lyricists
when I was growing When I was growing up, you
had Kine, you had a rock Him, you had k R.
S One, you had Slick Rick, you had a scar Face,
you had guys that were It seemed like now everybody
want to put the beat and guys can't. Ain't saying

(55:38):
nothing to the beat banging, but they ain't saying nothing.
Where guys had so much to say?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Where? Where did the Where did the lyricists go?

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Kwan?

Speaker 7 (55:48):
Where the lyrics went? I think it's just the fact
that the radio has overpowered the mindset of music today.
It's everything, everything is put in, it's classified as certain levels,
but then you want to try to master everything together
like it's one. So I think when the lyrics was

(56:09):
was everything. It was about skill. It was about coming
in the big park and knowing that you know how
to fight on that mic. But today it's more of
a popularity show. You you know, if you got a
great hook, you're making people dance. And that's cool because
at the end of the day we need a little
bit of that. But varas the lyrics and all that concern,

(56:30):
I think the radio just is like Yo, they trained
to go one way with.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
It, so we don't stop doing what we do. We
just do it for the niggas that remember that.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
And yeah, it's funny. It's funny when you think about it.
The stuff that is mainstream right now is sort of
the stuff that Uncle's talking about. But those of us
that are that are a little older and can appreciate lyricism,
we can. And you know what I miss, I'm gonna
call your ship. What I miss, honestly is the storytelling,

(57:00):
the story that came along with rapping. It's one thing
to have beats, it's one thing to listen to rap,
but to hear a story told like they used to
do back in the day. And you know there are
a few. I mean, J Cole is pretty good at
it tude. You know, Oh, there's an art in itself,
in that alone exactly that a lot of artists have
moved away from because in order to be mainstream, you

(57:20):
have to sound have a certain sound, or you gotta
have a certain beat, or you got you gotta sound
like you know, you know what I tell you too.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
I'm gonna tell you something too. A lot of people
don't feel like it sells, right.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Yeah, I'm saying, oh, okay, if.

Speaker 7 (57:37):
Me and you know that were going to the movies,
like we just strictly love horror Flix, horror Flix might
be probably the least ones that's selling the movie theater.
Everybody's on some drama, comedy shit or whatever the case.
I'm just trying to give you Superhero. They own the
Superhero now, DC, Marble, whatever the case may be.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Exactly. So, all I'm saying is that to each his
own on what they like.

Speaker 7 (58:02):
But when it comes to the politics, a lot of
times the lyrics, I guess they just feel like, yo,
we don't want that no more. But we we know
it's it's we know commercial shit. We know it has
to exist. As an artist, you want to still try
to deliver on every level. So I'm not stupid. I'm

(58:23):
not I'm not expecting me to be talking crazy and
think that that's gonna be on Prime Time three o'clock
in the afternoon and me and your grandmother's is listening
or whoever is listening.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
So I know that.

Speaker 7 (58:35):
But like I said, I just think that it's not
being embraced enough in the culture of wanting it because
it's a lot of niggas that just feel like, Yo,
that shit ain't doing yo.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
Fuck all that.

Speaker 7 (58:47):
So you got a lot of dumb niggas out there.
Let's let's be wrayed about that at My Lion and
my Lion, so we know it's a lot of dumb niggas.
So dumb niggas don't want to hear nothing but ship
that they feel like is making them happy. We'd dete
the niggas that we need to hear something because we
might be going through something. We might have a moment

(59:08):
we might need to hear. Gim we might somebody got
drop a bracelet to make me be like turn my
neck and be like I needed that. So, you know,
to each his own man, to each his own.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Yeah, looking back at the legacy of hip hop, are
you did you know Wu Tang would be what you
guys became.

Speaker 7 (59:29):
I knew we had the potential to be what we
wanted to be, but we would it had to be
a lot of work. But far as the confidence factor year,
I think we we knew we was gonna make a
make a We was gonna bum rush because at that
time we was young and we felt what we felt
was gonna win.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
But we knew that we still had to put in
the work.

Speaker 7 (59:50):
But to go thirty years later and then yeah and
have this this this audience of fans that's all reading,
It's like that's.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
Some other shit. We ain't see that company. We ain't
see that coming.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Because when you look at it, you guys, each one
of you guys stepped out on your own. You kind
of like Nwa you see, Q did his own thing,
Dre turned into a producer. A lot of these guys
did their own thing. And to see after all these years,
it's like, man, I remember when and when when they
put the compilation together, and you guys are always is

(01:00:29):
it hard when you're a group you got five guys
in and normally you ain't gonna see this anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
What you saw with NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
What you saw with wou tag, what you saw, it
ain't ain't no more n c ain't no more new
kids on the block, ain't no more new addition. Because hey,
everybody looking at it, that solo action because I ain't
really trying to split one hundred thousand and five waves.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
I would keep it stacked with you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I ain't really try to do that if I would
get a hundred stacks, if I would get a hundred stacks,
I gotta run this on my own exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
And see that's the whole thing. That's why I tell
people all the time.

Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
When we came together, it was like shooting dice at
the dice game, and the nigga just bet Rizzo was
betting his hand on something that he didn't know what's
gonna be what it was, And guess what headcrack you found?
This fucking you assemble with this amazing team of men
that basically all got their own styling. You believe every
last one of them. But you want them all to

(01:01:24):
come together because we know team means everything. It's like
you've been on sports teams, y'all, y'all know how it goes.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:01:32):
The team once y'all on the same mind frame and
y'all really want to win, that's more. That's more to win,
that's more to have under your belt to be like, yeah, nigga,
we getting closer to winning because we got it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
We got a strong team.

Speaker 7 (01:01:44):
So really for us, we was looking at the cats
that did it before us, the naughty by Nature's heed banger,
the head banger.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:01:55):
We like, we want those niggas, We want to be
like them, but we gotta be better. We gotta fit,
got a way to you know, let them know we
just as strong as them when we may be even
a little strong up. So our intentions were big, you know.
But like I said, we could say whatever, whatever, but
if you don't put in the work, that's don't mean.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Nothing, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
It's funny. One of the things that we always struggle with,
especially our people, when it comes to doing anything and
uniting even as a group, whether it be most of
the time, it's hard for us to stick to the
plan and understand long term vision, right, this is what
we need to do. But when we got to put
the work in, and most of the time, depending on
what it is going on, everybody want to take a shortcut.

(01:02:37):
Everyone takes a shortcut, and it's very, very difficult for
everybody to stay on the same page. Have y'all managed
to always be on the same page after all these
years with no fallouts? I'm sure there's probably a little
risks or you know whatnot, but have you all managed
to keep that friend group so tight together?

Speaker 7 (01:02:53):
It's the fans man, you know, and it's the ability
to be able to know, like men gonna argue, we're
gonna We're gonna go through. We might fight, we might argue,
but I think we're not gonna forget. Is where we
came from and blessings that we received. See when a
man feels like he's at his worst point and you

(01:03:17):
just want to give up, that's cool too if that's
what that's who you are. But we gong brothers, so
we know that at the end of the day, it's
a rule. It's a rule that comes with you know,
going at each other. It's like, yo, that shit can't exist,
but for so long, so you know, times it really be.
It be rainy days. You know, we might not talk

(01:03:37):
to each other for months, but that don't mean we
don't love each other. So I guess when we come
back to do some work, if whoever's on bad terms,
y'all had enough time to be like, Yo, that shit
ain't about nothing, man, Let's let's go do the job.
But really, like I said, it's the fans. We never
want to let down the fans on making them feel
like we're gonna break up, but it happens.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
Can you give me five groups that's together still, you
see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
At least they broke. They might have got back together,
but they broke up at some point in time they go.

Speaker 7 (01:04:13):
So for us, I think it ain't never a breakup thing.
I think it's a yo, I'm out the way for
a minute, man, take a break. Yeah, I'm out the
way for a minute. You know, It's been plenty of times,
probably in the past with me, I wanted to break up,
but then I have real niggas around me, like, yo,
you really sure that's how you feel? And then then
it makes me question am I dealing with too much emotion?

(01:04:35):
Or do I got facts to stand on to feel
to make it make that decision that I'm making. So,
you know, a lot of times it's just you gotta
learn how to forgive.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Man, you you know the most.

Speaker 7 (01:04:46):
How he teach us how to forgive and not forget. Forgive,
So we forgive each other sometimes because money ain't gonna
keep us together, you know what I mean, it's gonna
keep us together?

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Is damn nigga.

Speaker 7 (01:04:58):
I know, I know your mother, I know your I
know your family. Your family loved me, you know what
I mean. I ain't going nowhere. You ain't going nowhere.
And we try to just balance it out with distance.
You know, sometime y'all balance it out with distance.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
With the Wu tang forever.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
The Final Chamber Tour, was that really the last time
you got gonna be together right now?

Speaker 7 (01:05:20):
That's the call because everybody got other things on it,
other project going on, got everything vision.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Board, but me and you know that anything could happen.

Speaker 7 (01:05:29):
How many niggas said that in the past, Yo, it's
over then they bust a move.

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
I mean right now, nobody don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
For like the last couple of years, we have been
struggling with you know, you know, schedules, you know what
I mean, because dudes just doing shit, you know what
I mean. Like it's different than the nigga sitting around
the corner and you just don't want to do it.
Niggas say it, I don't want to do it no more.
So sometimes that ain't the case. But if I got

(01:05:58):
something going on and the next thing, you know, this
ship fall in my lap, and it's like, Damn, I
gotta say to myself, Damn, I'm gonna be busy that month.
Your nigga's trying to dance. I'm already signed thing. So
we been having to deal with those situations and move
some things around. So we we pretty much had like
a a We had like a forecast that was basically saying, Yo,

(01:06:22):
we're gonna do this, We're gonna do that, We're gonna
do this, and then we're gonna we're gonna cheer because
because we know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
That at the end of the day, yo, nigga, you
might be you might you might got a lot of
other ship to do.

Speaker 7 (01:06:33):
So it's all about respecting men and respecting their businesses
and you know, their family time, all that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
All that plays a role. But we do have to
go through some struggles with that.

Speaker 7 (01:06:47):
So now we just say, yo, you know what, Now everybody, Yo,
we go back out one more time, show the fans
some love and then yo, Now you don't gotta worry
about me in your hear trying to do something that
that's what it was though, But you never know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
I'm gonna tell my fans that you never know.

Speaker 7 (01:07:04):
You never know what could happen, man, But it's gonna
be if it escalates to us doing it again, it's
gonna be better because that's the only way we signing up.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
You recently said hip hop doesn't feel authentic anymore, do
you okay?

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Is there in your mind?

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Is there ever a chance hip hop rap, whatever the
case may be, will it ever be what it once was?

Speaker 7 (01:07:28):
Let me tell you something, uncle, and I want you
to listen real clear. I don't know if I told
you like I told you you see. This is why
I call my album the Empress New Clothes. My album
the Empress New Close is because The Empress New Close
is a Dutch folk tell about deception. The King got hoodwinked,

(01:07:48):
He got hoodwinked. He's sitting there with all his vanity,
and vanity turns into ego and then next thing you know,
you become weird. You start to forget the rules and
principles because you ego is so big that end of
the day. These guys came in to sell you some
clothes that wasn't real, but you knew they wasn't real.

(01:08:09):
But your ego allows you to sit in and try
something that really it wasn't right.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
So the bottom line what I'm saying is.

Speaker 7 (01:08:18):
We gotta stop falling for sucking shit, for stupid shit,
for shit that ain't hip hop that we classify as
hip hop. What's the hippens? What's the difference?

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Chat.

Speaker 7 (01:08:29):
If I'll give you a shirt and I say, Yo,
try his shirt on it, I ain't gotten into my hand.
Common sense is gonna tell you, nigga, this sh ain't yo, Ray,
you ain't gotten into your hand. It might be like,
that's the shit, Oh Joe put.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
It on, right.

Speaker 7 (01:08:44):
That's what's going on in the game today, niggas. So
niggas make hip hop be something that we know it ain't,
but you got niggas right next to you telling you
it is what it is. So my thing is, don't
get caught up in the deceptions. So when I make
it my music, I gotta keep the hip hop.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:09:04):
Prime example, and this ain't shitting on nobody post Malone, right,
I love him as the artist. I love him as
an artist. You look him up in the dictionary or
or anything Google, they call him an American rapper. Now,
my thing is when I think of post Maloney's singing
all the time, not taking away from him saying that

(01:09:24):
he can't rhyme or he call that something else. You
see what I'm saying. You see how you got the
White Boys do the rock. You got contemporary rock, you
got punk rock, you got this rock, you got hardcore rock,
you got all these different titles. But when it comes
over here to hip hop, everything your niggas is calling
fucking hip hop. It ain't hip hop, Bro, That don't

(01:09:46):
mean it ain't dope. I'm not taking nothing away from Homie.
I like him, I'm a fan, but that hip hop.
You understand what I'm saying, And I know exactly what
this is. What you're saying, this is not the single
is just it's like I said, we gotta preserve the
coaching man the best way we know how.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:10:06):
Niggas gotta stop acting like they calling everything something that
it's not. Man, That's all I'm saying. So I wanted
to make this album basically bring niggas back there realizing
that show you know what, stop being decet, stop letting
niggas decept you with other bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:10:25):
You I mean, if this is what you want, then
you gotta you gotta stand on it. But if you're
gonna settle, you could tell you yo, eat this ship. Yo,
this ship is good, and you're like, shit is nasty
if it is nasty.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
But Ray, here's the problem that we're gonna run that
we that we run into Right, we've allowed it to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Get in for so long.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Yeah, right, it's gonna be hard to get it up
out of there because we've allowed it to infiltrate.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
It's such a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
And so now people just like, oh, yeah, that out,
Oh yeah, that's that's such and such because we've allowed
for the last twenty the last twenty years to get
in there. And as you said, they say it and
now we classify as rap, we classified this hip hop.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
But that ain't what it is. That's never what it was,
and that wasn't what it was intended to be.

Speaker 7 (01:11:16):
See, that's but see going back to the emp's new clothes,
remember two Swinless came in there and swindled the king y. Yes, swinless.
So guess who the swinless is? Do I gotta say it? No, no, no, no,
it's the niggas with the money. It's the niggas with
the money that's saying pushing it, that's saying one for you,

(01:11:37):
one for me, two for you, one two for me,
three for you, one two three for me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
You get it. Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
We ain't got to sit in.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
We ain't got to sit in and and not know
what we know. But at the end of the day,
money man.

Speaker 7 (01:11:53):
That's why I said, the vanity, the you know, the
vanity controls the ego and then you become something that's
just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to yea yea
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. And the nigga bring
you anything and everything and you like, yo, funck it.
All I see is the money.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
I don't do nothing else but the funny thing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
This is the great thing I like about life, whether
whether it's sports, whether it's whether there's rap, where it's arts,
whether it's whether it's dance. History lays repeats itself. Fact bad,
life goes, site, life goes and cycles in in in
decades as I called them. That your history of the
point I repeat itself where hip hop is back to
its original format in which we all know and love.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
I mean, I felt like it never really went nowhere.

Speaker 7 (01:12:38):
I just felt like if this was a blanket over it,
and particularly everybody just at a point where you know,
you get tied in the same type of ship all day,
you know what I mean. It's like, you know, like
I said, Man, I ain't got to shoot at nobody. Man,
I ain't here to shoot at nobody. But a lot
of ship that we all respect, let's just classify. Let's

(01:13:01):
just put certain things in our own mind to be
what it is. Fuck that we don't need nobody to
tell us, Yo, this is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
You gotta know what it is. I gotta know what
it is.

Speaker 7 (01:13:12):
And at the end of the day, like I tell niggas,
you go to the movies, you pay for what you want.
Nigga period, you want horror, Nigga, you come over here.
You don't go over there for horror if it ain't horror. Right,
But today, like I said, all we could do is

(01:13:33):
really start trying to articulate what's what you know what
I'm saying, And that's my thing. I didn't make this
album to try to shit on nobody. These are just
my principles, my niggas. This is just how I feel.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
And I knew that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
Yo do what you what niggas know you do man, period.

Speaker 7 (01:13:53):
Man, you know what I'm saying, because if you do
it some other way, then you're gonna wind up like
the King and the invers New Clothes when he fucking
got sold something and and the little kid told him that,
ain't it? Yeah, yep, sometimes you need that, you know what.
And this ain't even this even my philosophy just based
on hip hop. It ain't even just that we living

(01:14:16):
in those crazy times with no where. There's no rule book.
It was a rule book back in the days. I'll
give a fuck if you had a big brother on
it and the nigga tell you, a nigga put you
and put his hands on you, you better put your
fucking hands.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
You better fight them, not shoot them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Fight them. People scared to take an al now? Ray
absolutely yeah, people scared to take a hey.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Ray Kwan's its eight studio album, Emperor's New Clothes UH
is out now. He has a ghost face, Killer method Man,
Inspected deck as well as knobs on the album. Ray
Congratulations Hopefully you guys do it one more time. Take
the group out one more time, spend the block. Let
everybody see the route thing plan thirty plus years and

(01:15:03):
to make it and do this thing one time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Thanks for coming by, stop by.

Speaker 7 (01:15:07):
Getting baby brother y'all my baby brothers. I love y'all
and y'all out of y'all platform. What y'all doing. Like
I said, man, it's gonna take real ones to stand
the way they stand. And I salute y'all brothers, man,
and thank you for everything because you're all a part
of this culture. Let's stick together. We got some great

(01:15:28):
things lined up for the people. You know what I'm saying.
I got a documentary coming out that's gonna blow y'all
nigga's heads off. Only jubilas you know the documentary, you
know what I mean that Also, you know, like I said,
I'm just trying to dance in the greatest way, keep
myself relevant. But you know it's a lot of shit
going on, bro. That's all great. Thanks, but I appreciate

(01:15:52):
the platform. Thank you for supporting me.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
Man. It's all my fans. You know how I get
down enjoy the music there it is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Ray Kwan Thank you for coming by go catch the
new album, Emperor's New Clothes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Appreciate you, Man and Joy. Stay safe. Tell the family
that I said in.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
Low thank you my brother. Likewise, peace job

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