May 30, 2025 • 47 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad 'Ochocinco' are joined by NBA stars Joe Johnson and Jermaine O'Neal o break down the biggest NBA stories. Who runs the NBA, is LeBron James going to retire & much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Okay, who the two seed?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
The one seed was? What the two seeds to the Rockets?
The Rockets go. You know, I can see the Rockets
making them play for k D. I can see them
making the play for Yannis.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Would you rather go get Yo ni KD with that team.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I already told you Whereyanna is going. I don't know
why we continued to bring this conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Say in Miami, you go in to Miami.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That's what That's what said? He going to Miami?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Hey, Rio up, hold on before you go, Rio, can
you explain the ojo how everybody can play for Pat?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Everybody can't playing in in Miami.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Everybody can't play for Pat. But I can see Yannis
coming to Miami. But I don't think he will. I
think I think he stays in Gonnaffee, you don't keep
I think he stays.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And but you know they're not gonna be no help
for it better because.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Dave ain't gonna get somebody, oh know who, they're gonna
They're gonna figure out something there.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You have no draft picks. Hold on, huh?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And that even hurt, That definitely hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You think I play till twenty six?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't know who they're gonna get it.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Maybe there's nobody that's gonna make a difference.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's still gonna be a first round exit.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh yeah, that ain't gonna happen. He ain't gonna wait,
No know where he goes. That ain't gonna happen. Even can
go to Miami. He's not gonna win there.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What if he go to What about Golden State?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Are you're keeping Jimmy and you get rid of Jimmy?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I think you're gonna have to get you know where
you can keep him step and Jimmy and Draymond because
Draymond is doing an extension because Draymond was all deep,
all the first team off defense, so he's doing for
a matt And yeah, if you do that, well Max
is only twenty five thirty million for him, it's not
over the top.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
But if you do that, you get rid of Jenny.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
That takes away all your all your offense, all what
Golden State is known for, from the Slash Brothers to
the Shoe And there's no more shooting there. So now
what are we scared the gold States? Well, we just
put everybody on steps. Hey, y'all got to shoot toos well,
we're still shooting one hundred and threes again, Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Put everybody on.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Steffen and John is putting his head down here, gonna
get thirty thirteen and six or.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Night and we're gonna come down shoot sixty three. Is
who's gonna win?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I like STEFP. I mean, look, I'm trying to Could
he go to Houston? I like you?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
I like you with you Houston too. I definitely like Hoston.
I think that'd be his best better be in Houston
or I can say, Miam, I'm not gonna disagree.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yea, thank thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I am Benny Malla. He wrote, gotta be a hell
of a team.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Let me show question. Are you are you selling him? Brick?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I mean, what do you trade? Brickle? You are trading
South Beach? What the hell you trained for him? Because
I don't want those pieces that that's not Bam and
that's not Tyler.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
He wrote, you didn't tell me what the hell you trade?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
He don't want a discrenealed superstar that could reave in
free agency either.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
How many more years Johannie's got too? Hey, what'd you say?
They trained? Southeast? Something? Eating rock.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
The file over some part of myns gotta go.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Because when you look at it real, the only two
assets that that somebody really won't is Bam and Tyler.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Hey, that was that was funny.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Okay, that was funny, But you don't want a Disgrendel
superstar I see being mad.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Then Oh look I got first of all, I got
this man right for the next two years. He had
a player option twenty seven to twenty eight, so I
got him for two years. I'm not giving him away.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Sometimes Rio, I'll be by. I want to sell something,
but I'm not looking. I know the value of this car. Manin' man,
you ain't even driving it. Don't worry about it. I'm
driving right back in the garage. I backed it out
so your punk ass can see it.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
If you're not gonna give me what I want for,
I'm driving right back into the garage and you get
your ass out by ya.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Wait, your talent. They ain't gonna be bad because they
know I know health. You already got rid of his brother,
Dame Hurt, Chris Middleton gone.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Now he was hurt, so we weren't gonna pay him.
Now he healthy. We bringing back a good luck with that.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Let's see how long they last.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna bring it back. We're
gonna bring it back. So uh uh yeah, it's just
for me. I'm looking at the places where he can go.
Rio that have the assets. Brooklyn has the assets. As
far as draft picks, they don't have any young talent
that I think, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Walkee would want.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Okay, see got the draft picks and they got the talent,
But I don't think Sam Preston's gonna want a message
messag or with either one of them.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Houston have the talent and the draft picks.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
The question is, and that's for Gianni's or k D
because you got Shung Goon, who's an All NBA selection.
Uh he's an All Star. I'm not getting I'm not
letting and Thompson go Jabari from JR.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Okay didn't here draft picks Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yaht goo they got they got Smith got thoms would
have let Thompson. Oh yeah, Joe Jayla gre yes, Jayalen Greed, Yes, yes, yes,
yes for KD or Joannis, Yes, I would package Jason.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I can see that happened because you're still building around
what you got a nice course and you.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Still got Jannis and you still got KD. I'm keeping
I gotta keep van Fleet for the civil fact. I need,
I need a point guard.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Now you go live. I'm KAD Young like, okay, see.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I don't think. I don't think Sam. First of all,
I don't know. I don't know the relationship with Sam
and k KD. What you hear is that Sam was
more favorable towards Russ than KD. I don't know if
there's any truth to that, but you know you hear,
uh he left.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And I'm not I'm not missing up my core. I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not real.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
I think Russ back there just because as a free
agency stuff. So I definitely see Russ being back at
OKAYC for next year, especially just signed that.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Uh, I'm talking about KD. You talking about you talking
about k D.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I know what I'm talking about KD. But I'm saying
I definitely see Rust going back. When he brought up
Rust and Sam Presley, I definitely see him going back.
But if I'm KD, I will look at the OKC situation.
If I'm Pressy, I don't think I would say here.
If I'm KD, I'm like, yeah, I just go there
be stot up shooting less shade.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
That's the case. Go back to Golden State.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
They don't have it though they don't have enough. You
don't think he he is Steph. You're gonna get rid
of Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, I would get get rid of Jimmy for KD.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I'm running the back with Jimmy.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Just because Jimmy brings a lot all around to the
game and it makes it easier for Steph in that aspect.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Kenny, you're gonna have to cry more shots for KD
with his move.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
You don't need that many, but he don't need something.
Who's gonna be who gonna be the person to create
a shot? Create a shot for him?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Or hen KD?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Going one on one at thirty five, thirty six years old?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
He good?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Uh, well, couse, y'all go because they still worried about Stephn.
But then and Draymond, Hey, Draymond gonna be fined, they'd
be good. I keep coming now now, but I don't
know if you can keep kaminga because somebody don't want
to coma.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Don't Cominare not messing with Colonel Morning. He's so far gone.
Comedian might be down here southeastball whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
He already he already out.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
He packed up his lock and everything. He out of it.
He ain't think about it.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Was kind of like we used to do real we
once we realized we weren't making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Man last last week or so, I was living in
the hotel.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I packed a little by little.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Then he nah, you're good. I live, I live, I
live week the week in the hotel. I think that's
locked me into a six extra six monthing. SA ain't
one day or no, I'm cool. So if you had,
if you had the handicap, where do you think, Kate?
Where do you think Katie ends up? What do you
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what do you think Jannis ends up?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Ad?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
I think he goes to Houston Johanna's I think Yanna
stays on the East coach. I think Yanna stayed somewhere.
I'm Miami, ah baby in New York.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Maybe the Knicks.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Brooklyn would be tough, just because they would have to
rebuild everything around him. They don't really have the team.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
But they got the draft picks. They just don't have
to play. He worked, I mean, he works out. He
might stand here walking thinking about.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Brooklyn, but I can see him going to the Knicks
and he end up over there.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Wow, what what you're gonna So you're gonna let what
You're gonna let go. You're gonna let cat go. You're
gonna let o g go? I mean what you letting go?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Fannas, I'm glad, Oh g go Machl Bridges, Uh, Mitchell Robertson, Uh,
who else?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Anybody except you ain't got no draft You ain't got
no draft picks because you gave up four draft picks
to get Michael Bridges.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So you ain't got no draft capital, that's okay. All
you got to play, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
We'll give her them four players. We'll be alright, three
of them, four players will get We'll be all right.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Now, Yo, you you just gutted your depth.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
That's okay. We're trying to win.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Now.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Well, Gianna's Gianna's Brunson a cat. That's a that's a
hell of the big three. That's a that's a big
line up behind Brunson. Now, you ain't gota do this.
Find some shooters, some knockdown shooters. You go get a
person like what is You're gonna get a person like
Cam Johnson. Maybe find something, find some way, will find
somebody that that's a Duncan Robinson, maybe somebody that's out
there that can just help spread the floor. That's all
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you need when you got those three guys, because your
offense gonna go through them.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Well, considering that a cat would like to be at
the three point line, they don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So yeah, he'll be.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Is gonna need that space, y'all that space to get down.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
In the post and then let him work work through
the post.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Are are you afraid? Because you know what, the Bronson
has a very high usage. Yannis has a usage. Are
you concerned that the uhh, Yannis needs the ball? Brunton
needs the ball both or most effective when they have
the ball in their hands.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
No, I feel like they can work that out. They
can figure that out because it's just them too. There's
nobody else really handing the ball. Cat don't need to
handle the ball. He just need to cancer his sweet spot.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
So now, when when bruston taking his break, you got
Giannis handling the ball. When Giannie is taking his break,
he got brust And handling the ball up to the
fourth quarter. The first time I got both of them,
y'all is getting the redound, pushing it, brust and goes
spot up, brusting get the redown. Yanna's taking down or
he's in the paint. Now you got three or four
people helping him. Brusse and pulling up for three. So
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it's ways to figure it out. It's just like le
Bron and d Wayne played together. It's ways to figure
out when you got two ball handlers and then just
the two ball handlers.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Real making sound so simple, Dune, It is simple. I
tried to listen. I tried to explain. It ain't simple, Joe.
It's not as simple because I saw about got too ass.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
All about buying you want to win. That's he just
explained it to you.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
He just he gave you a few examples of people
that have done it in the past.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You know, but but you but you didn't hear what
he said. He says it's all about Biden. And it's
a lot easier to say it if you ought to
do what I cant.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Right Withers be talking about We talked about Dayalen Brust
and we got talking about Gianna's two players that are
going to Biden.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Okay, everybody, I remember everybody. It don't matter what I
do with the Olympic team. Moments we bring the gold medal.
Now we've had two guys to come out and say
they was upset about what they playing time, right the
Biden in that you just said, buy it in.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's completely different. This is the y'all bason because there's
only two players. It's only two pen with only two players.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
I mean one of them had read look at the
five that was starting, that had a reason.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Just because of the season that he had just came
off of. So I understand his complaint. But at the
same time, he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Better than nobody playing in front of him. Hey, he
said I was better at the holiday and Derrick White
that was playing in the front.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You don't bring one thing brought to the game. Well
needs you to score, I wouldn't need you to score.
We need you gonna play the defense.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I to play defense. How to play defense?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I would will need you to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So you telling me what I'm gonna do, I'm telling
you I'm trying to buy in.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
I'm gonna buy in. I'm buying coach, And they told
you what you wouldn't do. All of them, all of them.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Hey, it is, but it's a lot easier said it done.
We just seen a lot of guys on your Oh man,
I just want to win. No, you want to win
and get your thirty. You want to win and get
your eight for one fifty two touchdowns. That's the way you.
Joannis has now more First Team All NBA selections than
Kevin Durant. Yannis has seven, KD has six. What more
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does Y'aannis need to do to pass KD all time?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I don't think it's possible. Really, I don't think it's possible.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Just because I look at Kat's skill set and like,
there's nobody gonna be a skill set as KD orhether
the ball handling better to shoot the ball, better get
to the spots he's gonna get to.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I don't think there's.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Gonna be another Greek freak either, but Giannis in the office,
the game is not polishing.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Enuugh like Kd's for him to be better than KD.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So you just look at aesthetically.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I'm just looking at that. When I look at somebody,
I say who's better than somebody? I look at him
in a one on one match up and see who
would dominate now one on one matchup to the game
to five, and I think k D would get Jannis
five four or five three.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Maybe I just got them figured just offensively better.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Wow, what happened if Joanna gives the ball first.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Same thing.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
I think KAT still figured out out the way. I
think KDE gets to stop before one on one because
Giannis is all downhill. Now we're playing three or four exactly,
So k playing three or four dribbles downhill?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh you know what I'm saying, we're playing you got
a table to rule?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, players play.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
We played one on one three or four dribbles max.
So in that type of setting, I'm not taking Giannis
over KD. I'm not taking too many people over KD
in that type of sety okay.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Joannis has five first team All Defensive four First team.
KAT has none. KD has does have two finals MVP.
Janni's has one.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's huh.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You know, yeah, Joanna's has two regular season m vps.
KD has one. That's gonna be very that's gonna be
very interesting. That's gonna be interesting when their career.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
He's gonna have a hand of a career like that's
that's the thing, but it's still you're not better than KD.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I think I think, you know what, I think a
lot of that has to do with aesthetically, because we
like guys that can handle the ball, shoot flashy. I mean,
there's nothing like really Johanna's game is really like old school,
like seven, you know, just trying to get down he'll post.
I mean he's still I mean, you know, three point,
he doesn't shoot that well. He ain't really got no
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meny ranges post. It's not great. He's basically getting downhill,
laying the ball up, you filing, or he's spending in
dunktible that's yo, honest, it's still hard to stop because
he's averaging thirty six of the damn floor.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So it's still hard to say.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
It's just not as it's.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Just not as pleasing to the I is what we
watch KD do.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
And you're comparing two different players and two different skill
sets all together, and at that point, regardless of accolades
and what they accomplished on their resume, it depends on
It's all on preference at that point.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, I see that. I see that. It's uh, it's
but whose impact, Who's impacted the game more. Oh ship,
that's damn they're the same almost. Huh.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I think.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That's tough one right there, because let me ask you this.
If I take if I take KD out.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
And put Giannis in there with Clay Stephen Draymonds, do
you still believe they win the NBA Championships.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah? Yeah, I don't think about the sport of the
aspect for you.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
I still give it to him because then that way
you take and you Donald doesn't have to guard Brown
by himself. Now you got two or three bodies that
can guard Brown, and that's gonna be a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
So yeah, I still give it to go to the state.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Now, if I take KD and I put him on
Milwaukee the year they wanted the wire, they wanted to
beat Phoenix, you think they still win the championship with
k D and Joannis out.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I mean, they barely got past Brooklyn. So I don't
want to be there, I think so.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I definitely think so Kayd if he just stept on
that line, Milwaukee don't win that championship.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That's that's gonna be when it's all said done, that's
gonna be a very interesting conversation. That's gonna be a
very very interesting conversation to have because they are so
metrically different. Uhh, nothing about one's game reminds you of
the other. One is as you said, Rio is one
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of the most skilled players, one of the five most
skilled players that we've probably ever seen with this size,
being seven foot tall, being able to handle the ball.
He can shoot the three. He can got, he got
the mini, he got the heavy.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
He can fit get to the rim, he can fit
free throws. He's an eighty eight eighty nine percent free throw.
So he's he's as good as skilled. Because guys that side,
they normally play center. They played it back to the basket.
We ain't see no guy you and Dirk can shoot
the ball. Dirk was not putting it on the ball,
going between his leg, going between hind his back doing
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what Kd's He just wasn't doing it. I mean, Dirk
had that Dirk patted that that one leg step back.
He's shooting it. It's gonna draw rain. But at skill you,
I don't know if you're ever gonna see a guy
at his size it's skilled as KD.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
His ability because just for his ability to shoot.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
The right and I show that one.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Seams is predicting that Lebron Lebron's next season the NBA
will be his last, which will be a poetic end
to number twenty three. You're twenty three for number twenty three.
They have they All Star weekend in Los Angeles. So
to me, it's a very storybook if that's the way
it goes. But that's a decision he's gotta make real.
You just watch the man in your twenty twos make
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second team all the NBA. If you the made first team,
I don't think anybody's mad if you put him in
over Donovan. Mitchell, Donovan got in blessed. He averaged twenty four,
eight and eight. He doesn't really have to do the
heavy lifting anymore because of Luca, So he's He and
ar are still there. So now you put him in
the dunker spot, you let him play off the ball,
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He's still gonna be in the twenty points. How long
what do you think Lebron wants to play? How long
is he going to play?
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I'm always saying he was gonna play till Bryce got
the lady. So when Brady goes to Arizona next year.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
That'll be your twenty three. So in order for him
to play.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
With Bryce, he's gotta be forty twenty four, So I
give him twenty four to twenty five.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, and if you get twenty four, you got a
BTh you might It's like, I ain't worried about nobody
getting twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And then if you get the twenty five, as we'll
get thirty, nobody can hold up. So I suld say.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
You might want to keep twenty three.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
That'll be forty one, twenty four, that'll be forty two,
twenty five, that'll be forty three. That's the same as
Tom Brady was when he retired twenty you know, twenty
five years in profession. That's that's that's legit. That's a
long man. You're a dark or lawyer, you get that
many time, or you're to day of Miller, right exactly.
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So is not only not only to play that long,
but to be I'm at that long, to play at
that level need be consistent.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It would be one of the best. The average twenty
four points a game in year twenty two.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
There are some guys that didn't average twenty four points
for a career. There are some guys that didn't didn't
I mean never had a season in which they average
twenty four. This guy's in year twenty two doing that
right when you look, really when you when you look
at it, look been around the game, Your dad coached
the game. So you've been around basketball all your life.
What do you think is the most impressive thing that
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you let what Lebron is doing? Is it the year
twenty two? Is it the ability to go out there
and still give you average twenty four, to go out
there and give you a game where he can give
you thirty average? You know for a week, give you
thirty straight, go get you forty? What do you think
is the most impressive thing at this juncture?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
We look all all the twenty one time first Team.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
All NBA, twenty one times All Star with so we
get all that, but I'm talking about what your witnessing now.
What do you think the most impressive thing that you
see it? And you you was within him for four years.
You watched him every single day, come in, get shots up,
run cold tub massage that you saw it all real.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
What do you think the most impressive thing that Lebron
is doing currently?
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I always said that the way he takes care of
his body, the way he paid attention to his treatment
and stay on schedule with that. That that attests to
his longevity and never really been heard or having a
major injury. So just the way his body is helding up,
like his skill set is gonna be a skill set.
He puts the work in. You see him putting the
work in after games or after practice. He's always a
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last one shooting or someone getting up shots or working
on different moves. So the way what he puts into
the game is when he gets out, and also what
he puts into his body.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Is when he's getting out of his body.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
So to me, it's just the longevity of you know,
being that consensitive, no injuries, no major injuries, bouncing back
and still being healthy enough to do what you do
in and do every day.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
You was with him, Lebron got there, so you was there,
You was within eleven, twelve, thirteen four. Did you have
when you was there with him, did you have any
idea that Lebron James would still be playing twelve years later?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
No, live did just because like I tell people this
all the time, Bron would really get treatment if he
was in the club, like he was literally half something
on his knees or something on his back inside the club.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
So it's like when somebody's doing that, like that's real
dedication just to be in the club with treatment ice
stayed team or whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You say.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Hello, real, this may got ice bag like the Simmer
Shame where it's like shooting electric light or electric electricity
and knees and stuff like that, just hamstrings, like lower back,
like he always got something that's recovery, making his body recover.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
So that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
It's like once you see that, like that's a different
type of dedication, Like I'm not I had to take
my hat to that one.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Wow. Wow, all right, real, we're gonna get you out
on this one.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
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And Sean Williams.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Hey, well, y'all don't need no extra body, no extra Leser.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Nothing.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
We always use some BacT your bodies, but you know,
I think we gotta pretty much take care of this year.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You know, we were hungry.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
We got something to proving.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
So I don't know, Joe say Joe SI the Detroit team,
Joe and Pargo, they say, hey, man, you know so
Joe that's he he Taylor made for the Big Three.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah, when he got to deal with the m v P.
That's a we got on our team so easy. So
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Hey Mario, Hey, y'all, y'all, y'all, did the crew y'all
down here at the crib.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, we got right now.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Mm hmm, y'all practice, I'm coming.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Uh we did at um.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Sometimes we're up there today. It just depends what time
the trainer to get there, but we usually.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Be at U.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
M Oh shoot, I'm coming tomorrow. Well, coming that down.
I may have y'all on y'all.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'alling, nobody, Hey, real man, thanks for
joining us. We really really appreciate you taking time if
the schedule. We know you busy, got a lot going on,
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After the Lakers got bounced, JJ Reddick emphasized that the
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team he need to be in championship shape shape. While
he didn't mention names, many took the comments of the
clear message to Luca.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Well. Weeks later, Luca made a significant public appearance.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Uh uh.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Luca made his first significant public appearance by attending Real
Madrid's basketball game and posted these on I.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
G you think that's Ai Ai? That's what There's no
way hell and he lost that weight that fast? And
why the hell he ain't doing it during the season.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Hey, that's that's what I'm paid. I don't I don't
care what he looks like right now. I'm talking about
when he comes back to play. That would he look
like this when he comes back to play?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Hell on?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Hey you think jail? You think he took that Olympic.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Nah?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Na, he ain't. No, don't the UK. I don't think
you can take that to the NBA player. I have
a question. Okay, you can't take that as an NBA player. Right?
How many weeks they've been out, they've been out of season,
what three two If that month ain't been that damn
long for them to look like he ain't been that
long for me to lose all that weight like that.
He probably took that Olympic stuff. I'm telling you, man,
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you know what's crazy.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Like I've watched him, Like when you watch him play
with his national team, he always looks. Then he does
then he comes back to the United States and it's
like he's eating Yese rolls and positive. But the American food.
I mean, you look at Europeans, they're not as big
as Americans. It's up about the food. He eating a lot,
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you do. I mean if you go, if you go
to Europe, you're not gonna see as many and you
know people that that's a little heavier. You don't see
a whole bunch of them is.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
So he's doing something. I don't know if it's now jail.
You know this. Their bodies are gonna be their bodies.
They're not gonna be sculpted.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
They're not gonna have albs, they're not gonna have caps
on their shoulders, They're not gonna have that much.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
They all look alike. I've never seen a hero upe
a player with muscles.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
You look at Yokic, you look at Luca, you look
at Manu, you look at Zubos, you look at any
international player. Tell Pep Sabonas, tell me the one you say, okay,
caps on the shoulder, ripped up calves.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
That's why didn't look.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
There's only one that's Gianna's that I think is Deah.
Y'all have got that Nigerian base. There's the difference. Uh,
you know, my base is based and it's not. So
he comes from the foundation that stock right, He's a
little different than what uh the Europeans what y'all Luka
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and jokicch and Mannu and all those guys came out
of But he looks good. But like I said, I
don't worry about the guy right now. He ain't got
to play for another four five months. I want to
see him look like that when he comes back. Well,
it's strange that he would say that, now if it
wasn't a lot of truth to everything we heard coming
out of Dallas. Yeah, and you know when you look
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at him, he got kinesio tape everywhere.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah, Like he's not at twenty five now, I mean,
not at twenty you should have Kenesio tape. You shouldn't
be hey, put together like hey, like that, like my
grandma coffee table when.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
We're growing up.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
You shouldn't look like that, you know what I'm saying.
We had that black electenpan tape holding up everything.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
He had Canisio tape at twenty three, twenty four, he's
twenty six. Now I'm like, bro, why you need all
that to hold you together? But you remember now he
missed ninety one ninety two games the last two seasons. Yeah,
all right, he's missed a lot of games at an
early age. And you know it clearly, it's something behind
When you let a talent like that leave at twenty
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five years old, it's a hell of a lot of
things got to be happening behind the scenes, you know,
to say, you know what, we're not even going after
draft picks, you know we're not. We just want to
go get you know, get get one player that basically
a one for one, one for one and we and
we ain't gonna have no more conversation. So that that
said a lot, But you can see what Dallas trying
to go with it. It's a risk he got him
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number one pick this year. We'll see how that turns out,
you know, with the rest of the bigs. I do
believe that they're gonna have to probably move some other
some some pieces to bring on another piece. So you're
not gonna have Kyrie to start, and hell, you probably
want to have Kyrie the first half a season next year, exactly.
I don't think Kyrie coming back to in January. Well,
you know, he do a lot of He do a
lot of meditating and a lot of you know. Yeah,
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I mean it's easy on him. He got a torn
a cl and it's not like it's a big man
that you got to get up and down.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Kyrie is stanframed. I mean theoretically he could.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I mean it could be seven months because when he
teared that he towards me in what late March, Yeah, April, May, June, July,
all the September, October, November, December. Yeah, I see him
probably coming back late December, by the early early January jail. Yeah,
he hadn't been been we think about it, he hadn't
been a player that would rush back anyway. Nope, right
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in his career. So he's gonna make sure he's ready
to go. But again, when he's right, he's one of
the best old spectacular.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
What do you think the Lakers need to do? What
if they're big?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
If there's somebody you think the Lakers can get or
should get in order to give them a great opportunity
to compete for a title, because at this point in time,
I mean, that's all Lebron is.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Really playing for.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Here's here's my question is can the Lakers be the
Lakers with Lebron having the ball in his hand at
a lesser level?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Can you know, and even with Joki I mean you,
I mean with Luca, Yeah, can you have a third
person that can take some of the pressure off of
those two?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Because the thing the problem is when those two have
the ball in the head the majority of the time.
And obviously Lebron is a different monster. You know, he
can make things having to get downhill, but the ball
does stop m hm. And so can you have somebody
else that make life easier for those two?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Because Lebron is forty plus years old, right, He's not
gonna be to He's not gonna be ab to carry
the load like he's typically carried, even though he can
still go for you know, thirty or forty, but you're
gonna need you gonna need a third person that can.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Really make things easier.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
And I'm not sure how they do it with the
cat issues that they have, but we'll see. But I
don't think they have enough right now. I think they're
gonna be seven eighth ninety playing you know type of
deal and then don't make a move. Oh, they got
to make a move. I think the thing is, first
of all, this is what we know. Lebron is better
without the ball than Luca. Luca cannot play off the ball.
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Lebron can play off the ball because you're not putting
Luca in the dunker spot. You're not gonna do there
are certain things you're not gonna do.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
And prior to this.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Playoffs, Austin Reeves was that guy that gave him a
break because we saw Austin Reeves go get forty against
Indiana and without Luca and Lebron.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
So I don't know what happened. The report saw that
he had an injury.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
He got nicked at some point in time late in
the season, or maybe got nicked in that playoff series,
and he wasn't as as impactful as he needed to beat.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I thought they had an opportunity in game what was
that was that? Game three? Yeah? Game three?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
But he ended up playing Lebron them forty six minutes
and he just wore them out. You got to get bro,
you played. First of all, Lebron had already played like
forty one minutes in game two, and then you turn
around in burning forty six in game three. You've got Look,
I don't care what forty year old he cannot. Yeah,
there ain't been a forty year old created that could
play four in a playoff game after coming off a
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forty one minute. But that's what that's so Phoenix had
that idea of that third person bring being Bradley Bill.
Obviously Brad Bradley Bill hadn't been healthy. But I'm talking
about an impact player, you know, coming in and supposedly
having that that level of impact on the team where
those guys you know, helped maybe Brian be able to
take a couple one nce off, right, Yeah, that impactful.
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I just think you know, right now, it's only downhill
now because Brian is putting up so many significant numbers
from perspective of just scoring having to score assists, rebound,
set the table to turn the bus on, you know,
feed the key.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, he's still twenty four eight to eight.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
But the problem is they need a big because you
can't start Rudy at the five and le Broad at
the four, or brought it to five and Rudy at
the four, because you see Rudy Gobert look like Shaq
twenty seven and twenty four.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You can't. They're they're just too small.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Jackson Hayes, you can only I mean, for whatever reason,
JJ's like, hell, the hell with it, Jackson, We're not
gonna even play you in game five. And he only
played marginal minutes in game four. So with that being said,
I thought that Mark Williams. I don't know why they
they nullified the trade, but I thought he would have
been a big addition for the jail because they need
a big. Luca leaves a law threat. If you go
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back and look studying Luca, look at Luca. He's his
best when he has a.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Law of thread.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you right now, man, like
I don't know, I don't know why the NBA is
getting away from the veteran stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You got a guy like I didn't use Dwight Hollard.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
He always seemed to be in shade, you know, looking
for guy to get rebounds, block shots and defending. And
he did a better job against Rudy Gobert than Jackson
Hayes or anybody else did.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
One, per right.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I just think it's a bigger body, too, bigger body, right,
And he's and he's a savvy veteran. He's been one
of one of the best defenders you know, all the
time to come down to protecting that room and rebound
the basketball. But you know, again, most teams don't seem
to want to go get better than players. And I'm
not sure you know, the NBA needs to needs to
put in a rule right now because if you want
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the product. When you talk about the issues with people
watching the NBA and and you know, and and the
you know, ratings going down, it's because you got the
young lead and the young right, so you don't have
you know, you don't you don't even have to have.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
You can take a role of a player coach role,
right and take that off off the cap. You know,
the NBA can do anything, right, if you get the union,
they can make it work.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
People in place that helps develop, you know, and you
got you look at Jackson Hayes and they had another
they signed another, uh alex linn alex Lynn. Right, Yes,
he should be the he should be the tallest high
school or college coach next year. But this is what
I'm saying, That's what I'm saying. If you have they
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just call it the White Hour. Just use him for example. Right, Yes,
you have somebody in there mentoring this these these young
boys and and and getting them and helping them understand
the importance of everything they do.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Or so then you in a better situation. Are you
not saying you got to go pay him five million dollars?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
But just you know, just don't don't don't put a
vetteran on on on on uh, keep him off the
team because you have to pay him a little bit
more because he's a veteran.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Just creator or Jabil McGhee, Jabel McGee was available. That's
what I'm saying. But why not? I mean, so is
the NBA doing similar to what the NFL is doing?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Also?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
On Yeah, they really going young? Yeah, going young and
doing away.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
With all the veterans outside of quarterback, a specific quarterback
that is still good opportunity to play regards of age.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
But like the NFL, the NFL, a NBA, Yeah, because
you know the metal over a certain number of years
is a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Well, you get a guy right out of college or
first you're gouty paying three hundred four hundred thousand, say
six what's but what's six hundred thousand when.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You bring it? When you get when you're making three
hundred million? Right? I get that. Well, I guess the
question of basketball, I mean is you know, do you
do you really want to win? I mean doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I mean, you know, most of most of them, you
know you Basketball's not like football where you have historical
you know, families that's involved with these teams, right, Basketball
is not that, right. Matter the fact, the majority of
the NBA now is new ownership. Right, and so from
a perspective, you know, what is it that? What is
the real purpose?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Right? Is it?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You know, invest into you know, invest into a team,
let the value grow and then sometime down the road,
sell it, get up off it, right, Yeah, Because that's
that's the difference. Because if you look at the NFL,
a lot of these a lot of these own now
some of these owners now have other things. But for
the longest time, uh j O and o jo, these
were family runs business. These were modern pop shops. That's
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all they had. Now you look at guys teams, people
that buy teams. Now that's not their number one business.
That team is not their number one business. Yeah, the
artisans that just bought the Dallas Mavericks, they're gambling, that's
their number one business. You look at the guy that
bought the Sacramento Kings. You look at Steve Barmer who
bought the Clippers. That was not his number one business.
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Now that's what he does now. But he's worth a
hundred billion, so he spent two So that's not what
it is. Not like the NFL. It's not like the Hunts.
Now the Hunts have other things, but it's a family.
But for the most part, NBA is a lot now
they're not family. The young these tech guys, these guys
that made money investing in Silicon Valley and things like that,
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they're the one that's buying the team. They're not like,
I don't know, I'm trying to think who's the oldest.
So you're not gonna find somebody like the like the
like Uh the mcclaskeys, the own the Bears. Her add
Virginia mccassion, she just passed away her dad, George Tllis
founded the Bears.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Passed it down. You ain't gonna find that in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
You're not gonna find the ruinies like the Steelers only
since first nineteen thirty three. You're not gonna find that
like the Marrows. When did the Giants? When did Dolan
by the Kniggs? Was the Knicks down to him?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
He had I think no, I think he had his
dad that yeah, that's what he made it only one
but he but yeah, he might have be no, what
do you call him? Jemmie Buss, Her dad was seventy
I think he brought the team in seventy nine, so
he might be the longest thing.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
That was his dad, right, Yeah, he passed it down here.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Brown U Yeah, but you know Jimmy had h Yeah,
no Bengals, Mike Brown, he got passed.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Down to his dad.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
You might earth say he took him from his for
his dad. So they just passed passed it down.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Now, these these tech people coming in there with four
five six billion dollars and it's it's gone, you know,
the Waltons just brought the Broncos. I mean, he's worth
a hundred billion. What's what's a hundred's what's four billion
to him? We just saw Josh Harris, he just bought.
He just purchased the Commanders last year over six what
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six and a half billion? He also owned the seventy
six ers. So it's not it's it's different, it's it's
a different time now. But I agree with you, Jail.
I think they should have a advance on the team
to help these young guys understand and navigate their way through.
I think they're doing a better job the pa of
both pas of having guys understand money. Like, Bro, you're
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not not a doctor, you're not a lawyer. You're not
gonna have a twenty year career, right The average year,
the average career is about three and a half years.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Three and a half. So even when you factor in.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Tom Brady that played twenty three and in fact that
Peyton Manning that played eighteen nineteen and Drew Rees and
Rogers and all these guys, a lot of guys just
playing one year, a lot of guys not even playing
at all. So it comes with it, whittle it whittle
it down to three and a half years. Yeah, bro,
you're gonna be twenty five, and that's the job that
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you're probably gonna have for the next twenty years. It's
not gonna be in the NBA, the MLB, or or
you know, whatever the case may be, whatever the profession
you're starting in, there's a good chance by the time
you're twenty five, you're gonna have another job, and it's
not gonna be a professional athlete.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, I think too, man.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
You know, the football is obviously significantly different in basketball,
right You guys draft for exact need, yes, and every
pick is a value pick, right. I think sometimes right
now in basketball, you know they're drafting, you know, best available,
even though you might have you might draft the point
guard and you got three already on the roster, right,
and so you know, I think that's the difference in basketball,
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where you know, when you talk about those two or
three years or four years, it's it's a changing of
the guard happening in the NBA because you don't you
don't get a lot of time, and if they send
your ass down to the G League and you a
lottery pick, not already telling you where you at and
what do you think, dang, yep, jail, we will get
you out of here on this. You're the head coach
at Dynamic Prep High School in Irving, Texas. Max Prepp
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announced that Dynamic Prep finished number one in the final
Top ten high school basketball ranking. Jao, when you were playing,
did you know always knew you wanted to be a
head coach? And what's that journey being like for you?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Listen, brouh, I had no idea that I was coach.
I was a head coach.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
To be honest, well, it's been, man, Honestly, it's been
one of those things where to be complete, honest with you,
man like I.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
You know, I was kind of dealing with some stuff.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
I was dealing my own personal issues when it came
to you know, I had a little abandonment issue, you know,
growing up. You know, I met my dad when I
was thirty years old. He died thirteen months later. I
was thirteen years into the NBA when that happens. So
I've always struggled a little bit with this thing. And
and then obviously after the deal happened in Detroit, I started,
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you know, I didn't I didn't love playing as much anymore. Okay,
because of every day and so when I was done,
I wanted to just go and be with kids. Okay,
just give back what was given to me. I was
fortunate enough when I was with a young boy at
Xavier McDaniel start a little team in Columbia, South Carolina
when gave back. Alex English had some cams I used
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to go to. So I just wanted to give, you know,
give back to kids, man. And I just really put
my head down and just started investing into the community
that way. And it's been We've had an amazing run,
you know, with the drive Nation the club. You know,
we've had a bunch of lottery picks and first round
picks and either second round picks over the last eight,
you know, eight years, and you know, I feel like
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I needed to start a school, which is more of
an impact because you get them five days a week
versus you know, two or three days a week when
it comes to club.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
So you know, I'm energized about it. Honestly, I don't
know how long I'm a coach. I'm a coaching next.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Year, but I do believe that, you know, you have
to give back if you have knowledge and ability to
get back to your community. Man, you gotta give give
you take those tools and give back to these young kids,
none of these kids, but most important, these parents that
don't quite understand what it is, you know when it
comes down to the business of being a pro and
approach it that you got to do every day to
become a pro and not skip steps. And so that's
(44:21):
the reason why you know, I do what I do,
and that's why I started doing that. Amy prep what
you just gotta be honest with him. Your son not
gonna be Lebron James. He's not gonna be Steph He's
not gonna be Michael George. Because you know, every everybody,
every every parent think they kid is that kid. But
you know what I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell
you the truth. Okay, for the first time ever, I
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have more parents talk about n I L than they
talk about the prosal crazy. We got parents that are
looking to retire off their kids going to college. And
so when you look at the product, right, you get
the product now and you know, when you're talking about
(45:04):
the pros, the deterioration of it is happening at the
youth level, right. And so now you got everybody in
place running and go grab kids, and I got this
so I can get you a deal. And so the
parents are so their mind is so so so so frazzled,
that can't think appropriately. So they making decisions based off
(45:26):
the economics of what they're hearing, not knowing that that
that that true, that true money percent is right two
percent anyway getting the money everybody ain't getting ain't getting
all right, right, yes, And so that's the thing where
we try to we try to bring some some real
positive information and tools and attach your day to day
with what you say you're trying to get to, right,
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And so for us, our job is to continue to
invest into the community to show people, hey, look man,
this is about the work. If you do think about
oh Joe oh, when you guys coming through, you wasn't
worried about where you're gonna where's gonna be chosen, right
because you was good. Yeah, I was already chosen, right,
That's what I'm saying. So, yeah, we weren't about the
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reps and the work that we got to put in.
I absolutely making no All Star game or getting picked
for this or getting picked for that. So that was
coming no matter what I just got to figure out
can my schedule handle it?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Right?
Speaker 3 (46:20):
But right now people are willing to stop working to
try to to try to talk about or try to
get something they ain't invest in. No, no, no, sweat
echo into from the start. And so that's what's problematic
about everything. And that's why you see in the transition
happened so hard, it is becoming so hard. And that's
why college now coaches are saying, we only trust twenty
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five year olds. Yeah, you don't trust high school kids
no more. Which twenty five year olds they trod by now? Yeah,
if they've been and started asking that. I mean, you
know people asking that. I remember hearing the question whether
Blake Rifford was so good, why do you go back
for it southward?
Speaker 2 (46:59):
See what I mean?
Speaker 3 (47:02):
You know, if if if a guy is good, it's
like basketball. If a guy don't come out after freshman year,
well man, he must not be that good. I mean,
you're not gonna You're never gonna You're never gonna see
another Tim Duncan. You're not gonna see a four year
superstar like that.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
You're not. You're just not. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
The volume
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Okay, who the two seed?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
The one seed was? What the two seeds to the Rockets?
The Rockets go. You know, I can see the Rockets
making them play for k D. I can see them
making the play for Yannis.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Would you rather go get Yo ni KD with that team.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I already told you Whereyanna is going. I don't know
why we continued to bring this conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Say in Miami, you go in to Miami.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That's what That's what said? He going to Miami?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Hey, Rio up, hold on before you go, Rio, can
you explain the ojo how everybody can play for Pat?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Everybody can't playing in in Miami.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Everybody can't play for Pat. But I can see Yannis
coming to Miami. But I don't think he will. I
think I think he stays in Gonnaffee, you don't keep
I think he stays.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And but you know they're not gonna be no help
for it better because.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Dave ain't gonna get somebody, oh know who, they're gonna
They're gonna figure out something there.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You have no draft picks. Hold on, huh?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And that even hurt, That definitely hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You think I play till twenty six?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't know who they're gonna get it.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Maybe there's nobody that's gonna make a difference.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's still gonna be a first round exit.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh yeah, that ain't gonna happen. He ain't gonna wait,
No know where he goes. That ain't gonna happen. Even can
go to Miami. He's not gonna win there.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What if he go to What about Golden State?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Are you're keeping Jimmy and you get rid of Jimmy?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I think you're gonna have to get you know where
you can keep him step and Jimmy and Draymond because
Draymond is doing an extension because Draymond was all deep,
all the first team off defense, so he's doing for
a matt And yeah, if you do that, well Max
is only twenty five thirty million for him, it's not
over the top.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
But if you do that, you get rid of Jenny.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
That takes away all your all your offense, all what
Golden State is known for, from the Slash Brothers to
the Shoe And there's no more shooting there. So now
what are we scared the gold States? Well, we just
put everybody on steps. Hey, y'all got to shoot toos well,
we're still shooting one hundred and threes again, Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Put everybody on.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Steffen and John is putting his head down here, gonna
get thirty thirteen and six or.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Night and we're gonna come down shoot sixty three. Is
who's gonna win?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I like STEFP. I mean, look, I'm trying to Could
he go to Houston? I like you?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
I like you with you Houston too. I definitely like Hoston.
I think that'd be his best better be in Houston
or I can say, Miam, I'm not gonna disagree.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yea, thank thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I am Benny Malla. He wrote, gotta be a hell
of a team.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Let me show question. Are you are you selling him? Brick?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I mean, what do you trade? Brickle? You are trading
South Beach? What the hell you trained for him? Because
I don't want those pieces that that's not Bam and
that's not Tyler.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
He wrote, you didn't tell me what the hell you trade?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
He don't want a discrenealed superstar that could reave in
free agency either.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
How many more years Johannie's got too? Hey, what'd you say?
They trained? Southeast? Something? Eating rock.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
The file over some part of myns gotta go.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Because when you look at it real, the only two
assets that that somebody really won't is Bam and Tyler.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Hey, that was that was funny.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Okay, that was funny, But you don't want a Disgrendel
superstar I see being mad.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Then Oh look I got first of all, I got
this man right for the next two years. He had
a player option twenty seven to twenty eight, so I
got him for two years. I'm not giving him away.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Sometimes Rio, I'll be by. I want to sell something,
but I'm not looking. I know the value of this car. Manin' man,
you ain't even driving it. Don't worry about it. I'm
driving right back in the garage. I backed it out
so your punk ass can see it.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
If you're not gonna give me what I want for,
I'm driving right back into the garage and you get
your ass out by ya.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Wait, your talent. They ain't gonna be bad because they
know I know health. You already got rid of his brother,
Dame Hurt, Chris Middleton gone.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Now he was hurt, so we weren't gonna pay him.
Now he healthy. We bringing back a good luck with that.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Let's see how long they last.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna bring it back. We're
gonna bring it back. So uh uh yeah, it's just
for me. I'm looking at the places where he can go.
Rio that have the assets. Brooklyn has the assets. As
far as draft picks, they don't have any young talent
that I think, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Walkee would want.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Okay, see got the draft picks and they got the talent,
But I don't think Sam Preston's gonna want a message
messag or with either one of them.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Houston have the talent and the draft picks.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
The question is, and that's for Gianni's or k D
because you got Shung Goon, who's an All NBA selection.
Uh he's an All Star. I'm not getting I'm not
letting and Thompson go Jabari from JR.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Okay didn't here draft picks Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yaht goo they got they got Smith got thoms would
have let Thompson. Oh yeah, Joe Jayla gre yes, Jayalen Greed, Yes, yes, yes,
yes for KD or Joannis, Yes, I would package Jason.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I can see that happened because you're still building around
what you got a nice course and you.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Still got Jannis and you still got KD. I'm keeping
I gotta keep van Fleet for the civil fact. I need,
I need a point guard.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Now you go live. I'm KAD Young like, okay, see.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I don't think. I don't think Sam. First of all,
I don't know. I don't know the relationship with Sam
and k KD. What you hear is that Sam was
more favorable towards Russ than KD. I don't know if
there's any truth to that, but you know you hear,
uh he left.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And I'm not I'm not missing up my core. I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not real.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
I think Russ back there just because as a free
agency stuff. So I definitely see Russ being back at
OKAYC for next year, especially just signed that.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Uh, I'm talking about KD. You talking about you talking
about k D.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I know what I'm talking about KD. But I'm saying
I definitely see Rust going back. When he brought up
Rust and Sam Presley, I definitely see him going back.
But if I'm KD, I will look at the OKC situation.
If I'm Pressy, I don't think I would say here.
If I'm KD, I'm like, yeah, I just go there
be stot up shooting less shade.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
That's the case. Go back to Golden State.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
They don't have it though they don't have enough. You
don't think he he is Steph. You're gonna get rid
of Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, I would get get rid of Jimmy for KD.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I'm running the back with Jimmy.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Just because Jimmy brings a lot all around to the
game and it makes it easier for Steph in that aspect.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Kenny, you're gonna have to cry more shots for KD
with his move.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
You don't need that many, but he don't need something.
Who's gonna be who gonna be the person to create
a shot? Create a shot for him?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Or hen KD?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Going one on one at thirty five, thirty six years old?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
He good?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Uh, well, couse, y'all go because they still worried about Stephn.
But then and Draymond, Hey, Draymond gonna be fined, they'd
be good. I keep coming now now, but I don't
know if you can keep kaminga because somebody don't want
to coma.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Don't Cominare not messing with Colonel Morning. He's so far gone.
Comedian might be down here southeastball whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
He already he already out.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
He packed up his lock and everything. He out of it.
He ain't think about it.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Was kind of like we used to do real we
once we realized we weren't making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Man last last week or so, I was living in
the hotel.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I packed a little by little.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Then he nah, you're good. I live, I live, I
live week the week in the hotel. I think that's
locked me into a six extra six monthing. SA ain't
one day or no, I'm cool. So if you had,
if you had the handicap, where do you think, Kate?
Where do you think Katie ends up? What do you
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what do you think Jannis ends up?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Ad?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
I think he goes to Houston Johanna's I think Yanna
stays on the East coach. I think Yanna stayed somewhere.
I'm Miami, ah baby in New York.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Maybe the Knicks.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Brooklyn would be tough, just because they would have to
rebuild everything around him. They don't really have the team.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
But they got the draft picks. They just don't have
to play. He worked, I mean, he works out. He
might stand here walking thinking about.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Brooklyn, but I can see him going to the Knicks
and he end up over there.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Wow, what what you're gonna So you're gonna let what
You're gonna let go. You're gonna let cat go. You're
gonna let o g go? I mean what you letting go?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Fannas, I'm glad, Oh g go Machl Bridges, Uh, Mitchell Robertson, Uh,
who else?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Anybody except you ain't got no draft You ain't got
no draft picks because you gave up four draft picks
to get Michael Bridges.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So you ain't got no draft capital, that's okay. All
you got to play, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
We'll give her them four players. We'll be alright, three
of them, four players will get We'll be all right.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Now, Yo, you you just gutted your depth.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
That's okay. We're trying to win.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Now.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Well, Gianna's Gianna's Brunson a cat. That's a that's a
hell of the big three. That's a that's a big
line up behind Brunson. Now, you ain't gota do this.
Find some shooters, some knockdown shooters. You go get a
person like what is You're gonna get a person like
Cam Johnson. Maybe find something, find some way, will find
somebody that that's a Duncan Robinson, maybe somebody that's out
there that can just help spread the floor. That's all
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you need when you got those three guys, because your
offense gonna go through them.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Well, considering that a cat would like to be at
the three point line, they don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So yeah, he'll be.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Is gonna need that space, y'all that space to get down.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
In the post and then let him work work through
the post.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Are are you afraid? Because you know what, the Bronson
has a very high usage. Yannis has a usage. Are
you concerned that the uhh, Yannis needs the ball? Brunton
needs the ball both or most effective when they have
the ball in their hands.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
No, I feel like they can work that out. They
can figure that out because it's just them too. There's
nobody else really handing the ball. Cat don't need to
handle the ball. He just need to cancer his sweet spot.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
So now, when when bruston taking his break, you got
Giannis handling the ball. When Giannie is taking his break,
he got brust And handling the ball up to the
fourth quarter. The first time I got both of them,
y'all is getting the redound, pushing it, brust and goes
spot up, brusting get the redown. Yanna's taking down or
he's in the paint. Now you got three or four
people helping him. Brusse and pulling up for three. So
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it's ways to figure it out. It's just like le
Bron and d Wayne played together. It's ways to figure
out when you got two ball handlers and then just
the two ball handlers.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Real making sound so simple, Dune, It is simple. I
tried to listen. I tried to explain. It ain't simple, Joe.
It's not as simple because I saw about got too ass.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
All about buying you want to win. That's he just
explained it to you.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
He just he gave you a few examples of people
that have done it in the past.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You know, but but you but you didn't hear what
he said. He says it's all about Biden. And it's
a lot easier to say it if you ought to
do what I cant.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Right Withers be talking about We talked about Dayalen Brust
and we got talking about Gianna's two players that are
going to Biden.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Okay, everybody, I remember everybody. It don't matter what I
do with the Olympic team. Moments we bring the gold medal.
Now we've had two guys to come out and say
they was upset about what they playing time, right the
Biden in that you just said, buy it in.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's completely different. This is the y'all bason because there's
only two players. It's only two pen with only two players.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
I mean one of them had read look at the
five that was starting, that had a reason.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Just because of the season that he had just came
off of. So I understand his complaint. But at the
same time, he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Better than nobody playing in front of him. Hey, he
said I was better at the holiday and Derrick White
that was playing in the front.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You don't bring one thing brought to the game. Well
needs you to score, I wouldn't need you to score.
We need you gonna play the defense.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I to play defense. How to play defense?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I would will need you to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So you telling me what I'm gonna do, I'm telling
you I'm trying to buy in.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
I'm gonna buy in. I'm buying coach, And they told
you what you wouldn't do. All of them, all of them.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Hey, it is, but it's a lot easier said it done.
We just seen a lot of guys on your Oh man,
I just want to win. No, you want to win
and get your thirty. You want to win and get
your eight for one fifty two touchdowns. That's the way you.
Joannis has now more First Team All NBA selections than
Kevin Durant. Yannis has seven, KD has six. What more
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does Y'aannis need to do to pass KD all time?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I don't think it's possible. Really, I don't think it's possible.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Just because I look at Kat's skill set and like,
there's nobody gonna be a skill set as KD orhether
the ball handling better to shoot the ball, better get
to the spots he's gonna get to.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I don't think there's.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Gonna be another Greek freak either, but Giannis in the office,
the game is not polishing.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Enuugh like Kd's for him to be better than KD.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So you just look at aesthetically.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I'm just looking at that. When I look at somebody,
I say who's better than somebody? I look at him
in a one on one match up and see who
would dominate now one on one matchup to the game
to five, and I think k D would get Jannis
five four or five three.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Maybe I just got them figured just offensively better.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Wow, what happened if Joanna gives the ball first.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Same thing.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
I think KAT still figured out out the way. I
think KDE gets to stop before one on one because
Giannis is all downhill. Now we're playing three or four exactly,
So k playing three or four dribbles downhill?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh you know what I'm saying, we're playing you got
a table to rule?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, players play.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
We played one on one three or four dribbles max.
So in that type of setting, I'm not taking Giannis
over KD. I'm not taking too many people over KD
in that type of sety okay.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Joannis has five first team All Defensive four First team.
KAT has none. KD has does have two finals MVP.
Janni's has one.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's huh.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You know, yeah, Joanna's has two regular season m vps.
KD has one. That's gonna be very that's gonna be
very interesting. That's gonna be interesting when their career.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
He's gonna have a hand of a career like that's
that's the thing, but it's still you're not better than KD.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I think I think, you know what, I think a
lot of that has to do with aesthetically, because we
like guys that can handle the ball, shoot flashy. I mean,
there's nothing like really Johanna's game is really like old school,
like seven, you know, just trying to get down he'll post.
I mean he's still I mean, you know, three point,
he doesn't shoot that well. He ain't really got no
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meny ranges post. It's not great. He's basically getting downhill,
laying the ball up, you filing, or he's spending in
dunktible that's yo, honest, it's still hard to stop because
he's averaging thirty six of the damn floor.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So it's still hard to say.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
It's just not as it's.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Just not as pleasing to the I is what we
watch KD do.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
And you're comparing two different players and two different skill
sets all together, and at that point, regardless of accolades
and what they accomplished on their resume, it depends on
It's all on preference at that point.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, I see that. I see that. It's uh, it's
but whose impact, Who's impacted the game more. Oh ship,
that's damn they're the same almost. Huh.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I think.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That's tough one right there, because let me ask you this.
If I take if I take KD out.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
And put Giannis in there with Clay Stephen Draymonds, do
you still believe they win the NBA Championships.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah? Yeah, I don't think about the sport of the
aspect for you.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
I still give it to him because then that way
you take and you Donald doesn't have to guard Brown
by himself. Now you got two or three bodies that
can guard Brown, and that's gonna be a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
So yeah, I still give it to go to the state.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Now, if I take KD and I put him on
Milwaukee the year they wanted the wire, they wanted to
beat Phoenix, you think they still win the championship with
k D and Joannis out.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I mean, they barely got past Brooklyn. So I don't
want to be there, I think so.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I definitely think so Kayd if he just stept on
that line, Milwaukee don't win that championship.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That's that's gonna be when it's all said done, that's
gonna be a very interesting conversation. That's gonna be a
very very interesting conversation to have because they are so
metrically different. Uhh, nothing about one's game reminds you of
the other. One is as you said, Rio is one
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of the most skilled players, one of the five most
skilled players that we've probably ever seen with this size,
being seven foot tall, being able to handle the ball.
He can shoot the three. He can got, he got
the mini, he got the heavy.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
He can fit get to the rim, he can fit
free throws. He's an eighty eight eighty nine percent free throw.
So he's he's as good as skilled. Because guys that side,
they normally play center. They played it back to the basket.
We ain't see no guy you and Dirk can shoot
the ball. Dirk was not putting it on the ball,
going between his leg, going between hind his back doing
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what Kd's He just wasn't doing it. I mean, Dirk
had that Dirk patted that that one leg step back.
He's shooting it. It's gonna draw rain. But at skill you,
I don't know if you're ever gonna see a guy
at his size it's skilled as KD.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
His ability because just for his ability to shoot.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
The right and I show that one.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Seams is predicting that Lebron Lebron's next season the NBA
will be his last, which will be a poetic end
to number twenty three. You're twenty three for number twenty three.
They have they All Star weekend in Los Angeles. So
to me, it's a very storybook if that's the way
it goes. But that's a decision he's gotta make real.
You just watch the man in your twenty twos make
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second team all the NBA. If you the made first team,
I don't think anybody's mad if you put him in
over Donovan. Mitchell, Donovan got in blessed. He averaged twenty four,
eight and eight. He doesn't really have to do the
heavy lifting anymore because of Luca, So he's He and
ar are still there. So now you put him in
the dunker spot, you let him play off the ball,
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He's still gonna be in the twenty points. How long
what do you think Lebron wants to play? How long
is he going to play?
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I'm always saying he was gonna play till Bryce got
the lady. So when Brady goes to Arizona next year.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
That'll be your twenty three. So in order for him
to play.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
With Bryce, he's gotta be forty twenty four, So I
give him twenty four to twenty five.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, and if you get twenty four, you got a
BTh you might It's like, I ain't worried about nobody
getting twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And then if you get the twenty five, as we'll
get thirty, nobody can hold up. So I suld say.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
You might want to keep twenty three.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
That'll be forty one, twenty four, that'll be forty two,
twenty five, that'll be forty three. That's the same as
Tom Brady was when he retired twenty you know, twenty
five years in profession. That's that's that's legit. That's a
long man. You're a dark or lawyer, you get that
many time, or you're to day of Miller, right exactly.
(20:55):
So is not only not only to play that long,
but to be I'm at that long, to play at
that level need be consistent.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It would be one of the best. The average twenty
four points a game in year twenty two.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
There are some guys that didn't average twenty four points
for a career. There are some guys that didn't didn't
I mean never had a season in which they average
twenty four. This guy's in year twenty two doing that
right when you look, really when you when you look
at it, look been around the game, Your dad coached
the game. So you've been around basketball all your life.
What do you think is the most impressive thing that
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you let what Lebron is doing? Is it the year
twenty two? Is it the ability to go out there
and still give you average twenty four, to go out
there and give you a game where he can give
you thirty average? You know for a week, give you
thirty straight, go get you forty? What do you think
is the most impressive thing at this juncture?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
We look all all the twenty one time first Team.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
All NBA, twenty one times All Star with so we
get all that, but I'm talking about what your witnessing now.
What do you think the most impressive thing that you
see it? And you you was within him for four years.
You watched him every single day, come in, get shots up,
run cold tub massage that you saw it all real.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
What do you think the most impressive thing that Lebron
is doing currently?
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I always said that the way he takes care of
his body, the way he paid attention to his treatment
and stay on schedule with that. That that attests to
his longevity and never really been heard or having a
major injury. So just the way his body is helding up,
like his skill set is gonna be a skill set.
He puts the work in. You see him putting the
work in after games or after practice. He's always a
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last one shooting or someone getting up shots or working
on different moves. So the way what he puts into
the game is when he gets out, and also what
he puts into his body.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Is when he's getting out of his body.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
So to me, it's just the longevity of you know,
being that consensitive, no injuries, no major injuries, bouncing back
and still being healthy enough to do what you do
in and do every day.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
You was with him, Lebron got there, so you was there,
You was within eleven, twelve, thirteen four. Did you have
when you was there with him, did you have any
idea that Lebron James would still be playing twelve years later?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
No, live did just because like I tell people this
all the time, Bron would really get treatment if he
was in the club, like he was literally half something
on his knees or something on his back inside the club.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
So it's like when somebody's doing that, like that's real
dedication just to be in the club with treatment ice
stayed team or whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You say.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Hello, real, this may got ice bag like the Simmer
Shame where it's like shooting electric light or electric electricity
and knees and stuff like that, just hamstrings, like lower back,
like he always got something that's recovery, making his body recover.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
So that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
It's like once you see that, like that's a different
type of dedication, Like I'm not I had to take
my hat to that one.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Wow. Wow, all right, real, we're gonna get you out
on this one.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
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Speaker 1 (24:39):
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Speaker 5 (24:39):
We always use some BacT your bodies, but you know,
I think we gotta pretty much take care of this year.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You know, we were hungry.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
We got something to proving.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
So I don't know, Joe say Joe SI the Detroit team,
Joe and Pargo, they say, hey, man, you know so
Joe that's he he Taylor made for the Big Three.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah, when he got to deal with the m v P.
That's a we got on our team so easy. So
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Hey Mario, Hey, y'all, y'all, y'all, did the crew y'all
down here at the crib.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, we got right now.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
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Speaker 1 (25:15):
Uh we did at um.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Sometimes we're up there today. It just depends what time
the trainer to get there, but we usually.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Be at U.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
M Oh shoot, I'm coming tomorrow. Well, coming that down.
I may have y'all on y'all.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
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joining us. We really really appreciate you taking time if
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After the Lakers got bounced, JJ Reddick emphasized that the
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team he need to be in championship shape shape. While
he didn't mention names, many took the comments of the
clear message to Luca.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Well. Weeks later, Luca made a significant public appearance.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Uh uh.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Luca made his first significant public appearance by attending Real
Madrid's basketball game and posted these on I.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
G you think that's Ai Ai? That's what There's no
way hell and he lost that weight that fast? And
why the hell he ain't doing it during the season.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Hey, that's that's what I'm paid. I don't I don't
care what he looks like right now. I'm talking about
when he comes back to play. That would he look
like this when he comes back to play?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Hell on?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Hey you think jail? You think he took that Olympic.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Nah?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Na, he ain't. No, don't the UK. I don't think
you can take that to the NBA player. I have
a question. Okay, you can't take that as an NBA player. Right?
How many weeks they've been out, they've been out of season,
what three two If that month ain't been that damn
long for them to look like he ain't been that
long for me to lose all that weight like that.
He probably took that Olympic stuff. I'm telling you, man,
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you know what's crazy.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Like I've watched him, Like when you watch him play
with his national team, he always looks. Then he does
then he comes back to the United States and it's
like he's eating Yese rolls and positive. But the American food.
I mean, you look at Europeans, they're not as big
as Americans. It's up about the food. He eating a lot,
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you do. I mean if you go, if you go
to Europe, you're not gonna see as many and you
know people that that's a little heavier. You don't see
a whole bunch of them is.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
So he's doing something. I don't know if it's now jail.
You know this. Their bodies are gonna be their bodies.
They're not gonna be sculpted.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
They're not gonna have albs, they're not gonna have caps
on their shoulders, They're not gonna have that much.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
They all look alike. I've never seen a hero upe
a player with muscles.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
You look at Yokic, you look at Luca, you look
at Manu, you look at Zubos, you look at any
international player. Tell Pep Sabonas, tell me the one you say, okay,
caps on the shoulder, ripped up calves.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
That's why didn't look.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
There's only one that's Gianna's that I think is Deah.
Y'all have got that Nigerian base. There's the difference. Uh,
you know, my base is based and it's not. So
he comes from the foundation that stock right, He's a
little different than what uh the Europeans what y'all Luka
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and jokicch and Mannu and all those guys came out
of But he looks good. But like I said, I
don't worry about the guy right now. He ain't got
to play for another four five months. I want to
see him look like that when he comes back. Well,
it's strange that he would say that, now if it
wasn't a lot of truth to everything we heard coming
out of Dallas. Yeah, and you know when you look
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at him, he got kinesio tape everywhere.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah, Like he's not at twenty five now, I mean,
not at twenty you should have Kenesio tape. You shouldn't
be hey, put together like hey, like that, like my
grandma coffee table when.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
We're growing up.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
You shouldn't look like that, you know what I'm saying.
We had that black electenpan tape holding up everything.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
He had Canisio tape at twenty three, twenty four, he's
twenty six. Now I'm like, bro, why you need all
that to hold you together? But you remember now he
missed ninety one ninety two games the last two seasons. Yeah,
all right, he's missed a lot of games at an
early age. And you know it clearly, it's something behind
When you let a talent like that leave at twenty
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five years old, it's a hell of a lot of
things got to be happening behind the scenes, you know,
to say, you know what, we're not even going after
draft picks, you know we're not. We just want to
go get you know, get get one player that basically
a one for one, one for one and we and
we ain't gonna have no more conversation. So that that
said a lot, But you can see what Dallas trying
to go with it. It's a risk he got him
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number one pick this year. We'll see how that turns out,
you know, with the rest of the bigs. I do
believe that they're gonna have to probably move some other
some some pieces to bring on another piece. So you're
not gonna have Kyrie to start, and hell, you probably
want to have Kyrie the first half a season next year, exactly.
I don't think Kyrie coming back to in January. Well,
you know, he do a lot of He do a
lot of meditating and a lot of you know. Yeah,
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I mean it's easy on him. He got a torn
a cl and it's not like it's a big man
that you got to get up and down.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Kyrie is stanframed. I mean theoretically he could.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I mean it could be seven months because when he
teared that he towards me in what late March, Yeah, April, May, June, July,
all the September, October, November, December. Yeah, I see him
probably coming back late December, by the early early January jail. Yeah,
he hadn't been been we think about it, he hadn't
been a player that would rush back anyway. Nope, right
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in his career. So he's gonna make sure he's ready
to go. But again, when he's right, he's one of
the best old spectacular.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
What do you think the Lakers need to do? What
if they're big?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
If there's somebody you think the Lakers can get or
should get in order to give them a great opportunity
to compete for a title, because at this point in time,
I mean, that's all Lebron is.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Really playing for.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Here's here's my question is can the Lakers be the
Lakers with Lebron having the ball in his hand at
a lesser level?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Can you know, and even with Joki I mean you,
I mean with Luca, Yeah, can you have a third
person that can take some of the pressure off of
those two?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Because the thing the problem is when those two have
the ball in the head the majority of the time.
And obviously Lebron is a different monster. You know, he
can make things having to get downhill, but the ball
does stop m hm. And so can you have somebody
else that make life easier for those two?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Because Lebron is forty plus years old, right, He's not
gonna be to He's not gonna be ab to carry
the load like he's typically carried, even though he can
still go for you know, thirty or forty, but you're
gonna need you gonna need a third person that can.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Really make things easier.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
And I'm not sure how they do it with the
cat issues that they have, but we'll see. But I
don't think they have enough right now. I think they're
gonna be seven eighth ninety playing you know type of
deal and then don't make a move. Oh, they got
to make a move. I think the thing is, first
of all, this is what we know. Lebron is better
without the ball than Luca. Luca cannot play off the ball.
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Lebron can play off the ball because you're not putting
Luca in the dunker spot. You're not gonna do there
are certain things you're not gonna do.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
And prior to this.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Playoffs, Austin Reeves was that guy that gave him a
break because we saw Austin Reeves go get forty against
Indiana and without Luca and Lebron.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
So I don't know what happened. The report saw that
he had an injury.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
He got nicked at some point in time late in
the season, or maybe got nicked in that playoff series,
and he wasn't as as impactful as he needed to beat.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I thought they had an opportunity in game what was
that was that? Game three? Yeah? Game three?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
But he ended up playing Lebron them forty six minutes
and he just wore them out. You got to get bro,
you played. First of all, Lebron had already played like
forty one minutes in game two, and then you turn
around in burning forty six in game three. You've got Look,
I don't care what forty year old he cannot. Yeah,
there ain't been a forty year old created that could
play four in a playoff game after coming off a
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forty one minute. But that's what that's so Phoenix had
that idea of that third person bring being Bradley Bill.
Obviously Brad Bradley Bill hadn't been healthy. But I'm talking
about an impact player, you know, coming in and supposedly
having that that level of impact on the team where
those guys you know, helped maybe Brian be able to
take a couple one nce off, right, Yeah, that impactful.
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I just think you know, right now, it's only downhill
now because Brian is putting up so many significant numbers
from perspective of just scoring having to score assists, rebound,
set the table to turn the bus on, you know,
feed the key.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, he's still twenty four eight to eight.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
But the problem is they need a big because you
can't start Rudy at the five and le Broad at
the four, or brought it to five and Rudy at
the four, because you see Rudy Gobert look like Shaq
twenty seven and twenty four.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You can't. They're they're just too small.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Jackson Hayes, you can only I mean, for whatever reason,
JJ's like, hell, the hell with it, Jackson, We're not
gonna even play you in game five. And he only
played marginal minutes in game four. So with that being said,
I thought that Mark Williams. I don't know why they
they nullified the trade, but I thought he would have
been a big addition for the jail because they need
a big. Luca leaves a law threat. If you go
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back and look studying Luca, look at Luca. He's his
best when he has a.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Law of thread.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you right now, man, like
I don't know, I don't know why the NBA is
getting away from the veteran stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You got a guy like I didn't use Dwight Hollard.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
He always seemed to be in shade, you know, looking
for guy to get rebounds, block shots and defending. And
he did a better job against Rudy Gobert than Jackson
Hayes or anybody else did.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
One, per right.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I just think it's a bigger body, too, bigger body, right,
And he's and he's a savvy veteran. He's been one
of one of the best defenders you know, all the
time to come down to protecting that room and rebound
the basketball. But you know, again, most teams don't seem
to want to go get better than players. And I'm
not sure you know, the NBA needs to needs to
put in a rule right now because if you want
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the product. When you talk about the issues with people
watching the NBA and and you know, and and the
you know, ratings going down, it's because you got the
young lead and the young right, so you don't have
you know, you don't you don't even have to have.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
You can take a role of a player coach role,
right and take that off off the cap. You know,
the NBA can do anything, right, if you get the union,
they can make it work.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
People in place that helps develop, you know, and you
got you look at Jackson Hayes and they had another
they signed another, uh alex linn alex Lynn. Right, Yes,
he should be the he should be the tallest high
school or college coach next year. But this is what
I'm saying, That's what I'm saying. If you have they
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just call it the White Hour. Just use him for example. Right, Yes,
you have somebody in there mentoring this these these young
boys and and and getting them and helping them understand
the importance of everything they do.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Or so then you in a better situation. Are you
not saying you got to go pay him five million dollars?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
But just you know, just don't don't don't put a
vetteran on on on on uh, keep him off the
team because you have to pay him a little bit
more because he's a veteran.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Just creator or Jabil McGhee, Jabel McGee was available. That's
what I'm saying. But why not? I mean, so is
the NBA doing similar to what the NFL is doing?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Also?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
On Yeah, they really going young? Yeah, going young and
doing away.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
With all the veterans outside of quarterback, a specific quarterback
that is still good opportunity to play regards of age.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
But like the NFL, the NFL, a NBA, Yeah, because
you know the metal over a certain number of years
is a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Well, you get a guy right out of college or
first you're gouty paying three hundred four hundred thousand, say
six what's but what's six hundred thousand when.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You bring it? When you get when you're making three
hundred million? Right? I get that. Well, I guess the
question of basketball, I mean is you know, do you
do you really want to win? I mean doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I mean, you know, most of most of them, you
know you Basketball's not like football where you have historical
you know, families that's involved with these teams, right, Basketball
is not that, right. Matter the fact, the majority of
the NBA now is new ownership. Right, and so from
a perspective, you know, what is it that? What is
the real purpose?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Right? Is it?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You know, invest into you know, invest into a team,
let the value grow and then sometime down the road,
sell it, get up off it, right, Yeah, Because that's
that's the difference. Because if you look at the NFL,
a lot of these a lot of these own now
some of these owners now have other things. But for
the longest time, uh j O and o jo, these
were family runs business. These were modern pop shops. That's
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all they had. Now you look at guys teams, people
that buy teams. Now that's not their number one business.
That team is not their number one business. Yeah, the
artisans that just bought the Dallas Mavericks, they're gambling, that's
their number one business. You look at the guy that
bought the Sacramento Kings. You look at Steve Barmer who
bought the Clippers. That was not his number one business.
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Now that's what he does now. But he's worth a
hundred billion, so he spent two So that's not what
it is. Not like the NFL. It's not like the Hunts.
Now the Hunts have other things, but it's a family.
But for the most part, NBA is a lot now
they're not family. The young these tech guys, these guys
that made money investing in Silicon Valley and things like that,
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they're the one that's buying the team. They're not like,
I don't know, I'm trying to think who's the oldest.
So you're not gonna find somebody like the like the
like Uh the mcclaskeys, the own the Bears. Her add
Virginia mccassion, she just passed away her dad, George Tllis
founded the Bears.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Passed it down. You ain't gonna find that in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
You're not gonna find the ruinies like the Steelers only
since first nineteen thirty three. You're not gonna find that
like the Marrows. When did the Giants? When did Dolan
by the Kniggs? Was the Knicks down to him?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
He had I think no, I think he had his
dad that yeah, that's what he made it only one
but he but yeah, he might have be no, what
do you call him? Jemmie Buss, Her dad was seventy
I think he brought the team in seventy nine, so
he might be the longest thing.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
That was his dad, right, Yeah, he passed it down here.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Brown U Yeah, but you know Jimmy had h Yeah,
no Bengals, Mike Brown, he got passed.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Down to his dad.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
You might earth say he took him from his for
his dad. So they just passed passed it down.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Now, these these tech people coming in there with four
five six billion dollars and it's it's gone, you know,
the Waltons just brought the Broncos. I mean, he's worth
a hundred billion. What's what's a hundred's what's four billion
to him? We just saw Josh Harris, he just bought.
He just purchased the Commanders last year over six what
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six and a half billion? He also owned the seventy
six ers. So it's not it's it's different, it's it's
a different time now. But I agree with you, Jail.
I think they should have a advance on the team
to help these young guys understand and navigate their way through.
I think they're doing a better job the pa of
both pas of having guys understand money. Like, Bro, you're
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not not a doctor, you're not a lawyer. You're not
gonna have a twenty year career, right The average year,
the average career is about three and a half years.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Three and a half. So even when you factor in.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Tom Brady that played twenty three and in fact that
Peyton Manning that played eighteen nineteen and Drew Rees and
Rogers and all these guys, a lot of guys just
playing one year, a lot of guys not even playing
at all. So it comes with it, whittle it whittle
it down to three and a half years. Yeah, bro,
you're gonna be twenty five, and that's the job that
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you're probably gonna have for the next twenty years. It's
not gonna be in the NBA, the MLB, or or
you know, whatever the case may be, whatever the profession
you're starting in, there's a good chance by the time
you're twenty five, you're gonna have another job, and it's
not gonna be a professional athlete.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, I think too, man.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
You know, the football is obviously significantly different in basketball,
right You guys draft for exact need, yes, and every
pick is a value pick, right. I think sometimes right
now in basketball, you know they're drafting, you know, best available,
even though you might have you might draft the point
guard and you got three already on the roster, right,
and so you know, I think that's the difference in basketball,
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where you know, when you talk about those two or
three years or four years, it's it's a changing of
the guard happening in the NBA because you don't you
don't get a lot of time, and if they send
your ass down to the G League and you a
lottery pick, not already telling you where you at and
what do you think, dang, yep, jail, we will get
you out of here on this. You're the head coach
at Dynamic Prep High School in Irving, Texas. Max Prepp
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announced that Dynamic Prep finished number one in the final
Top ten high school basketball ranking. Jao, when you were playing,
did you know always knew you wanted to be a
head coach? And what's that journey being like for you?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Listen, brouh, I had no idea that I was coach.
I was a head coach.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
To be honest, well, it's been, man, Honestly, it's been
one of those things where to be complete, honest with you,
man like I.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
You know, I was kind of dealing with some stuff.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
I was dealing my own personal issues when it came
to you know, I had a little abandonment issue, you know,
growing up. You know, I met my dad when I
was thirty years old. He died thirteen months later. I
was thirteen years into the NBA when that happens. So
I've always struggled a little bit with this thing. And
and then obviously after the deal happened in Detroit, I started,
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you know, I didn't I didn't love playing as much anymore. Okay,
because of every day and so when I was done,
I wanted to just go and be with kids. Okay,
just give back what was given to me. I was
fortunate enough when I was with a young boy at
Xavier McDaniel start a little team in Columbia, South Carolina
when gave back. Alex English had some cams I used
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to go to. So I just wanted to give, you know,
give back to kids, man. And I just really put
my head down and just started investing into the community
that way. And it's been We've had an amazing run,
you know, with the drive Nation the club. You know,
we've had a bunch of lottery picks and first round
picks and either second round picks over the last eight,
you know, eight years, and you know, I feel like
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I needed to start a school, which is more of
an impact because you get them five days a week
versus you know, two or three days a week when
it comes to club.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
So you know, I'm energized about it. Honestly, I don't
know how long I'm a coach. I'm a coaching next.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Year, but I do believe that, you know, you have
to give back if you have knowledge and ability to
get back to your community. Man, you gotta give give
you take those tools and give back to these young kids,
none of these kids, but most important, these parents that
don't quite understand what it is, you know when it
comes down to the business of being a pro and
approach it that you got to do every day to
become a pro and not skip steps. And so that's
(44:21):
the reason why you know, I do what I do,
and that's why I started doing that. Amy prep what
you just gotta be honest with him. Your son not
gonna be Lebron James. He's not gonna be Steph He's
not gonna be Michael George. Because you know, every everybody,
every every parent think they kid is that kid. But
you know what I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell
you the truth. Okay, for the first time ever, I
(44:43):
have more parents talk about n I L than they
talk about the prosal crazy. We got parents that are
looking to retire off their kids going to college. And
so when you look at the product, right, you get
the product now and you know, when you're talking about
(45:04):
the pros, the deterioration of it is happening at the
youth level, right. And so now you got everybody in
place running and go grab kids, and I got this
so I can get you a deal. And so the
parents are so their mind is so so so so frazzled,
that can't think appropriately. So they making decisions based off
(45:26):
the economics of what they're hearing, not knowing that that
that that true, that true money percent is right two
percent anyway getting the money everybody ain't getting ain't getting
all right, right, yes, And so that's the thing where
we try to we try to bring some some real
positive information and tools and attach your day to day
with what you say you're trying to get to, right,
(45:49):
And so for us, our job is to continue to
invest into the community to show people, hey, look man,
this is about the work. If you do think about
oh Joe oh, when you guys coming through, you wasn't
worried about where you're gonna where's gonna be chosen, right
because you was good. Yeah, I was already chosen, right,
That's what I'm saying. So, yeah, we weren't about the
(46:10):
reps and the work that we got to put in.
I absolutely making no All Star game or getting picked
for this or getting picked for that. So that was
coming no matter what I just got to figure out
can my schedule handle it?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Right?
Speaker 3 (46:20):
But right now people are willing to stop working to
try to to try to talk about or try to
get something they ain't invest in. No, no, no, sweat
echo into from the start. And so that's what's problematic
about everything. And that's why you see in the transition
happened so hard, it is becoming so hard. And that's
why college now coaches are saying, we only trust twenty
(46:41):
five year olds. Yeah, you don't trust high school kids
no more. Which twenty five year olds they trod by now? Yeah,
if they've been and started asking that. I mean, you
know people asking that. I remember hearing the question whether
Blake Rifford was so good, why do you go back
for it southward?
Speaker 2 (46:59):
See what I mean?
Speaker 3 (47:02):
You know, if if if a guy is good, it's
like basketball. If a guy don't come out after freshman year,
well man, he must not be that good. I mean,
you're not gonna You're never gonna You're never gonna see
another Tim Duncan. You're not gonna see a four year
superstar like that.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
You're not. You're just not. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
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