Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Bubba Wallace historic win + Aaron Rodgers responds to Terry Bradshaw | Nightcap

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Bubba Wallace being the first black driver to win on Indianapolis Motor Speedway oval, the NFL plans to fine more than 100 players for violating the NFL’s Ticket Resale policy, and Aaron Rodgers responds to Terry Bradshaw’s criticism & much more!

02:01 - Bubba Wallace
12:01 - NFL fining players and employees in Resale Scandal
23:37 - Terry Bradshaw calls ARod move a joke
39:41 - Shemar Stewart and Bengals reach agreement

46:01 - Tua looks to rebuild relationship with Tyreek

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start off with the event of the Evening. Bubba Wallace
becomes just the second black Driver. To ever win a
NASCAR race. He won the Brickyard FO one hundred, Oh Joe.

(02:14):
And this is not just any race. This is what
they call and golf they have the Slams. In tennis
they have the Slam uh And in race car they
call it the Slam and sometimes they call it the
Crown Jewel. So Daytona that is their biggest race, that
is their super Bowl. Then you have the Brickyard excuse me.
Then you have the Coca Cola six hundred, which is
in Charlotte. Then Labor Day, you have Darlington and this

(02:38):
is the Brickyard that held it Indy. So he won
one of the Crown Jewels. He won one of the Slams.
So Wendell Scott was the first black NASCAR driver. He
was the first black driver to actually win a race.
And the NASCAR circuit when it was I think it
was probably Winston Cup back then.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
But Bubba Wallace, I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I had him on Club Shay Shay Minty a couple
of years ago when I first started, and he was
he was amazing, and I know he was excited to
drive for the Jordan Xcel team with him and Dennett
Michael Jordan Denny Hamlin co owned this.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Team and Bubba Wallace.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
He finally gets in the victory lane at a big
time event and very very pleased from Ojo, What did
you follow any of this big NASCAR fan?

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm somewhat of a big NASCAR fan.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I've been down to Carolinea and I've been down to
Daytona multiple times.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
To go to races.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
It's a great, great moment, great historical moment for Bubba Wallace.
Congratulations to him and his team on this achievement. But
I think there are a lot of people that that
don't don't really appreciate NASCAR because they view it as
and just cars going in circles, but obviously not understanding
that there's a method of the madness there.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
There there at strategy.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
A lot of strategy that goes into it.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
And again, like other sports that people don't watch, you'll
never understand it until you are actually in that atmosphere
and you're able to experience what it's like. For For one,
me being in Daytona and sitting in those stands with
those ear plugs in it does something to me. It
just does something to you, even if you don't enjoy
that actual sport itself. But listen, you for those of

(04:09):
you that a in the chat, that are listening, just
give it a chance. Give give a Nascar chance. Go there, enjoy,
sit outside the atmosphere and feel the power of the engines.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
That just that that it's hard.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
It's hard for me to even put it in the
words and explain it to you because it's just something
that you have to experience it on itself. It's like
it's like it's like going to the to the roller
coaster ride, you know, riding the roller coaster and then
try and explain to someone else what it's like.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
You know, you have to be there. You have to
experience it for you got to.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
You got to.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
So for those of you watch him and at some point,
just if you have a track near you, just go
experience Nascar man, and you you get a better understanding.
Even if you don't like cars going in circles, you
will enjoy that experience.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, you know their teams and you know you you
try to pull your teammate along.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
You know you're trying not to.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
You know what how you gonna how do you set
how you're gonna set the race up. Uh if you
can get to the front and you can slow it down,
you know, certain things like that. But uh, you know,
Bubba has gone through a lot. You know, it's not
like I said, it's kind of like with anything that
when you are the when they're not a whole lot
of you kind of like Tiger with and and golf,
they're not there were not a whole lot of Tiger Woods. Uh.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
He had, you know, Calvin Pete and Charlie Sifferd.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
And and dent to to follow uh uh to follow
and and I think Bubba only had I think Wendell Scott.
That's the only one off the top of my head
is that it's Wendell Scott back in the sixties and
in the early seventies. But for Bubba to win Run
of the Crown Jewels, one of the Slams, and I
know how bad he wants to win Daytona because that's

(05:42):
the super Bowl, and NASCAR is one of the few
events that have their super Bowl at the beginning of
the season. Most people have their their most important at
the end of the even you have the World Series,
you have the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
You have uh uh the NBA Finals. Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
But in NASCAR Daytona. Their biggest rates is that if
they first rate. But for Bubba to win the Brickyard, obviously,
he was extremely excited. I watched him afterwards and you know,
you talk about how he talked to Jordan, and Jordan
say he was extremely proud of him, and.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
He's gonna have a couple of drinks for him.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
And I'm sure Bubba's gonna have a couple of drinks
on his own, because that's a that's a huge honor. Nobody,
no other black and everyone on the big Oval at Indy,
Like I said, that's who man, that's that's that's a
huge honor. Hotel, that's a huge honor. And I'm extremely
proud for Bubba. Like I said, I had an opportunity

(06:37):
to talk to him, and you know, I know he
wants to do well and and he had some had
some lean years, Yes, had some lean years. Uh, things
weren't going his way, you know, d n P and
things of that nature. Wasn't finishing in the top ten.
But hopefully they've kind of got this thing turned around
and they can be serious for the rest of the year,
getting to the final uh, you know, getting to the

(06:58):
the NASCAR playoffs and hood who knows, but that would
be that would be that would be a huge honor
if he could win.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
If he can win the cup, boy, hey, boy.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Boy boy, listen about talk about making history. Yeah, that's
making history.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
That Yeah, well what dayton is done with.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
But I'm talking about you know, because you know now
what they do is that they have the NASCAR Playoff
and so you get accumulated enough play and then you
get in there and each week they will people off. Well,
now you drop and now they drop, and then it
comes down to you know, hey, it might come down
to the last race. We're only a handful of people,
maybe two or three guys have a realistic chance of

(07:42):
winning the race. And so uh, that's that would be
that I think. You know, obviously Daytona is the biggest,
but if you can win the you can win the playoffs.
But I'm extremely I'm extremely excited for bubb. But he
went through some things last year. You remember the news
incident that happened and there was a big hullabaloo about

(08:02):
that and they said it was a pull where people
would pull the garage door down. It just made like that.
He didn't think so, but he seems to be on
the right track now. And it's about racing, because that's
what it comes down to. It's about winning. And I
think Michael Jordan and Denny Hamler is giving him a
great car to drive. NASCAR is very competitive. It's a

(08:28):
very expensive sporty you know.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
And hey, the more you win, right, the better the sponsors.
I know you got in here, I got Mike, I
know you got brother brother.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Hamlin, right, yeah, Denny Hamler.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yeah, but but listen, the more you win the sponsors,
the more money that you're allowed to pour into your
car when he allowed to pour into your car, the
better performing car you get, right.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
So I mean that's a whole nother story.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, you know you got you know, you got Joe Gibbs,
and you got Jack Roush, and you got Penske and
you got Rick Hendricks. Rick Hendricks is the big guy,
that big man, you know, and those guys are based
out of all those guys, you know. Charlotte is the
NASCAR capital. That's where the NASCAR Hall of Fame is

(09:16):
located up there in Morrisville and Mechanicsville and Cannapolis. That's
where all the guys have their garages and and and
you know, do their testing up there.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
But this is a huge on.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
I'm extremely proud for Bubba Wallace and hopefully he can
keep it going. I'm extremely happy for Michael Jordan and
Denny Hamlin because like you said, oh ho, the more
you win, the more sponsors. Because this is not this
is not this is not a cheap.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
It's not easy either. No, it's not easy either. I
don't I don't think.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
I wish, I wish I I could talk NASCAR the
pacifics on what it takes like I talk, I can
talk football, or I can talk soccer, I can talk boxing.
But how you have to strategize yourself like he's running
the eight hundred. You have to strategize yourself like he
running the four hundred. You know, like you said, just
go out there on step on the pedal and just
you know this, you got to worry about gas, gotta

(10:03):
worry about hires like it.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
It's so much that goes into.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, outside how much you know, how what is the
what is the fuel? How many? How many laps can
we go? Are we if it comes down to it,
are we going to push?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah? Because if we.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Push it, there's a chance on the final lap we run.
We we we've seen that happen before. My teammates. Hey, guys, hey,
let's find somebody. Let's draft. You know, Bubba was telling
me how they cut the engine and cost and then
fire back up to go again. So there's a lot
of strategy. Like you said, you just don't step on
the cast of the gas. Let's okay, let's go around
the track as fast as we can. We don't want

(10:41):
to blow the engine. That's what testing for. You get
an idea of how the tires are burning. Uh, the
type of track, what's going on? Am I gonna stay lower?
Am I gonna get high? What's the best well, you know,
what's the best time to pass? Where's the best areas
the past? There's so much going on.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Sometimes you drift, you know, you know about drift draft drafting.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, I used to play.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Play on uh on uh with that PlayStation play such
a Xbox one of them.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Oh yeah, and then you get guys the bunk drafted
where they draft you're hitching the bunk, move you out
the way, nigg and now they go.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
They shoot right by you like a sling shot.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, you sleep, that's that's the move they called they
call it a sleep shot, you know, but it's it's
very competitive and sometimes guys, hey you spent my I
forgot what you did last time you spent me.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I almost spind your ass out. Uh. I think that
was seventy nine when it was who was it? Was it?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Kill Yarborough and Bobby Allison got into it and Richard
Petty it's been that ended up passing on the last
light that that ended up he got number seven?

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Boy? It's been some epics fights in NASCAR, boy.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. They throw hands. Ah,
you wrecked me, you wrecked my all? Yeah, they throw
they throw heads in Nascar. Yeah, So congratulations, Bubba oh choe.
Our NFL plans to find more than one hundred players
in roughly two dozen club employees who were found to

(12:10):
be in violation of the NFL Tickets Resale Policy for
reselling Super Bowl tickets at a profit. Under agreement between
the league and NFL Players Association, players who violated rules
will be fined one and a half times the phase
value of the ticket and lose their a lot of
tickets to the next two Super Bowls if they're playing

(12:30):
in the game, players will have a chance to purchase seats.
Those who declined. Punishment could be suspended by Commissioner Roger
good Day.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
But that's tough. That's tough.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
You know, it's unfortunate for those players. But I don't
mean to say it, but that's been going on for
a very long time. But you ain't hear it. Yeah,
And I'm not telling what I heard. I'm telling you
what I know. And we're not to talk about players.
You know, we talked about even those that sitting higher
positions have always sold their tickets for profit. This is
nothing new. I think there's the way the clamp down
on it. Maybe it's getting out of control now based
on what the players are making from a profitable standpoint,

(13:04):
But with the money they're making these days, the players
is probably sending the tickets are those that don't make
as much as others. If if you understand what I'm saying, I.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Do get Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I think the thing is, oh chose Look the reason
why they increased face value of the tickets because they
find out they will scalffling them. And they says, well,
if you're gonna pay five thousand dollars on the resale,
we might as well go and put them at five
thousand face value. If you're gonna pay that on the
secondary market, you might as well play this on the
primary market. And so and plus you have to understand, y'all,

(13:34):
do realize the NFL know the lot number, the seating section.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, they know all of it everything. But this is
the first time. It's so funny.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Been cracking down on that every Super Bowl though.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
This has been going on every Super Bowl, but who
knows how long even without Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
I'm sure you would plan.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
But that's why are they cracking down on it this
year specifically, why all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Because of you man, You're getting the FBI involved, because
people ain't paying taxes because at the end of the day,
are it's gonna want they cut on Joe. See that's
where you run a file aft because you sold something, okay,
Ucas Sam said, where my cut right right right? Oh yeah,
uncle Sam, I'm gonna won't hit cut. And the NFL

(14:20):
has been trying to crack down on this. They look,
you want to go to the game. That says, look,
you might as well just go ahead and come through
us and pay I think the face value ticket when
I was playing was probably three twenty five four hundred.
They got face value tickets not probably the cheapest ticket
to get in probably fifteen hundred and two thousand, and
then it goes from there two thousand, three thirty five

(14:42):
hundred four thousand, fifty yard line seats. I mean, obviously,
you know, if you get a suite, might be anywhere
from a million to two two and a half million
dollars considering where is position on the field. But I'm
not surprised because I kind of saw the direction once
they started up in the price to what the resellers.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Would get for same said tickets.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
So I'm really I'm really not surprised, o yo, that
they're gonna crack down, because look, the NFL.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Is a business, always has been, and it's kind of
like if you.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Run a restaurant, if you don't cleanse, keep a closed town,
somebody they're gonna give your alcohol and they're gonna give
your food a weight because they're gonna have their homeboys
or their homegirl come sit at the bar and they're
gonna drink for fresh and they gonna come in there
and they're gonna get they're gonna get meals and they're
gonna get that for free, and if you're not careful,
they'll be giving some of your prime good stuff out
the back door. So the NFL says, you know what,

(15:36):
we're finna crack down on this now. Were donna let
it slide, and we probably they probably told them about yo.
You know, they first come around at the beginning of
the year.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Down a little bit now and they they had a
little bit more seasoned on it. Okay, yeah, yeah, y'all
getting out of control.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Because they're like, hold on, man, Kansas City, ooh, going
for the three per oh the take it back man.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
They got they got the Eagles, Jayla hurt.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
You could double charge that. You could throw you see
them for double maybe yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, So you're probably selling those. And you know, you
got good.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Seats, especially if you, if you, if you and if
you were one of the teams that are in it,
you got great seats at least uh eight of the
fifteen because I think I think they gave you know,
you got it, you got two comps and then you
got it you bought the other thirteen. Eight were really
good seats and then seven. I mean, look, you're in

(16:32):
the Super Bowl. So they they like they was way
way up there.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
But they were.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
They were decent seats. But you can you know, but
things are different now with YO, things are different than that.
I think the biggest thing that I will say is
that time changes. You must be willing to adapt to
the changing of the times. You can't say like you
and that we came up man, oh jo. They've been
doing this from the beginning of the time.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yet they did.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
But they're cracking down on it now and they're cracking
your head. And because they tried to what they tried
to do.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Oho.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
It used to be you could like, hey, man, you're
going you're using your Super Bowl tickets? Nah, Hey can
I get them? Hey such and such a give my ticke,
give my two super Bow tickets to.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Go pick them up too. They can pick them up up, yep.
I remember that.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Now they don't put a situation where like you got
to come pick the tickets up. They won't let they
don't let you transferm as easily. And you know, it
used to be, well, I believe your ticket that will call.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
They don't do that anymore. So basically you got to
have the tickets in hand.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Well, no, they digitally where they used to have you know,
you had to have tickets in hand. Now they mainly
do it digitally, uh scan and they don't want you
transferring the tickets. So it's and I get you're right.
The guys probably some of the guys that are doing this,
they're not the guys that's making twenty thirty forty million
dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
They're probably guys that get you know, you know, or the.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Practice squad trying to make it change. You know, eighteen
little eighteen thousand dollars for two tickets, that good little
to hold.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Joke quick and listen.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
You people have to understand too when you think about
the NFL or how the hell they know what players
did it. NFL knows everything now. Not only do they
know the tickets, they know everything everything.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
They know what.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Everybody is doing on all thirty two teams, who they
hang with, where they live, where they spend, where they go,
where they shut down everything. Do people understand that the
NFL does their homework so diligently, well, now, only before
you make it, even while.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
You're still in it.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Man, they went back and talked to my elementary teacher
on my elementary teacher. Why are you talking to my
elementary teacher about what I did in elementary? I wasn't
even the same chat back then.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
They also Joe like tickets.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Well that's why if you have season tickets, you gotta
be careful who you let sit in those seats because
they act a food. Not only do they throw them out,
now they take your season tickets. Remember how that the
Detroit fan. Who that the Detroit fan that got into
it and they took it season tickets.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Oh that's right. He was right screaming at the coach,
screaming at the yes.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yes, So they know because they got it allotted. Okay,
the Cincinnati Bengals, they got this a lot bit of tickets.
These are where the section that the Bengal tickets are
going to be. This is where the Bronco tickets will be.
This is where Green Bay, this is where this one.
There is where that one. So they know. Yeah, at

(19:32):
this point in time, now guys, it is just not
worth it. Uh, And I get it. Try to pick
up your a little extra quick cash because you get
off seven tickets. You're probably looking at it, you know,
and the problem is you running into ojo. It's ours
because you're taking cash and you're not paying taxes on

(19:53):
that money. I under saying one is cut. I'm just
saying it's just like anything alcohol. When they found out
they could tax it. Now, all of a sudden, you
didn't need the bootleg cigarettes once they could find out
how to tax it. You didn't need a you didn't
he you didn't need to smuggle them weed once they
found out.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
They could tax it. Sure, you see what they did
with me.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Now, if y'all we just come on saying, Uncle Sam,
I sold you for seventy hairs, you're thirty five. Uncers
Sam said, do what you do, but you gonna cut Hey,
you're gonna cut me in the cut it out. Say
that cut me in the cutting out that Joe said, Joe,
say cut me in the cutting like that.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
I gotta say that. I like you.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, that's it, Oh Joe, you know how it is,
Uncle Sam.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
It don't matter how small man man what Uncus Sam
want thirty five dollars? Fuck it, same reason you want
to hold thirty five. He wanted to seventeen and a half.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
In a minute, boy.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
He gonna get it.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
That.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Don't play with Uncle Sam. Now you can play with
a lot of people don't play with him.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Oh listen, then people don't play.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
They don't. I done got audited it for a dollar.
I got audited. I got audited it one time.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
And the envelope that they're sending there, it costs more
than what I what I owed. It was just the principle,
right right, right, right man, dot don't play with them
people a bout that money because because a lot of time,
they know everything. Because every what you got in your account,
and they'll let that interest draw.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Now the thing that you will have to learn about
Uncle Sam.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Uncle Sam is never gonna give you the interest on
your money when he late that he's gonna charge you
for when you leave.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
So he already know and they'll let that thing go.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Say oh man, now he can't pay Let me come
on in, let me make an example out of him,
because they want the high profile. Because if they get
the high profile, it's like, well, hell, he had millions
and they did something bad, what they're gonna do to me?
Just go ahead, just go ahead and pay them people

(22:08):
their money to leave Uncle Sam alone because Uncle Sam
don't play by his But I'm not surprised that they
took this because I kind of being close to the
situation and hearing kind of felt they were kind of
headed this heading.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
And this the wrest that.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I remember when they implemented this oho they were going
to the three and the two and the three and
the four thousand dollars face value ticket, the ten thousand
dollars face value ticket. Because they found out people was
willing to pay that. They said, man, why they charge man,
why they charge ten thousand dollars for some chrome hard jeans?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Because people are paid for it.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's why, the same reason they charged one thousand dollars
for a stake.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
People are paying for it. And if people are.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Paid for it, there'll be somebody is there to provide
whatever service is needed. You want a tank, Yeah, I
need a tank. It's gonna cost you five get me
the tank. You need a bozooka, you need a missile.
Whatever you need, somebody will will be able to fill

(23:18):
that need. Man, Oh Joe, I need you on the
Super Bowl tickets. Okay, hey, man, such and such need
two on the Super Bowl tickets. Well, let me go
to a couple of different teams.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Boom boom boom, boom boom.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Boom, I got you, NFL Sai, Nah, we're gonna do
away with this. If you want to go watch one
of our one of our events, you're gonna have the
You're gonna have to come through.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
You're gonna have to come through.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
To pay because all that all that, all that value
and that money that's being made is going back to them.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
How you think they pay each team four hundred thirty
two million, six hundred thousand, and you would think, like, man,
what the NFL care about?

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Five thousand, ten thousand and fifteen.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Thousand adds up? It all adds up, no matter how
small it is.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
It adds up.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Pennies make dollars.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
You ain't got to tell me twice.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, and if it make dollars, it makes sense with
a C and with a S. So yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
But I'm not surprised that they're taking this thing, and
I'm glad they kept it anonymous. You don't know, because
if it's somebody is bad, the last thing you will
owe your is somebody that's making uh fifty million and
it's selling two two boat take it for twenty thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
So I'm glad. Hopefully they get this thing resolved.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
And you see you know, hey, they know everything, literally,
they know everything they know about the gambling because they're
gonna turn look the draft kings and the and the
bets and the this and the that. They want to
be able to still be able to bet on football
and basketball and baseball. If you think for one second

(25:16):
they're not gonna turn your ass in.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yees, phone numbers, emails, anything tracking back to you and.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Any irregularities, because that's what they're looking for. Hen why
do the man keep betting the unknown? No boy, man?
Why he man?

Speaker 1 (25:37):
He ain't finished the game yet. Let me let me
make no to that day they who something ain't adding up?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Before Aaron Rodgers signed with the Steelers, former Steelers great
quarterback Super Bowl winning quarterback Terry Bradshaw called the move
a joke. Terry added, what are you gonna do? Bring
him in for one year? Are you kidding me? That
guy needs to stay in California. Go somewhere you on
bark and whisper to the gods out there. Rogers responded
this week, saying, I whisper to the gods every single day.

(26:12):
He's got an idea of what he thinks about me
based on what I've done the documentary what said, what said,
Darkness Retreat, whatever the hell you want to talk about.
I love to get to know Terry on a deeper level.
I feel like he gave me a chance to get
to know him. Then we have a good friendship. Oh y'all,
honest assessment. Yeah, what do you expect from Aaron Rodgers

(26:35):
this year? And what do you expect from the Steelers
this year?

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Listen, Aaron Rodgers only has to do one thing, facilitate
the ball and do his best not to make mistakes.
That's all he has to do. You got DK, That's
one nice target. Defensively aware, the Steelers are going to
win football games. We just need Aaron Rodgers to manage
the games and be a game manager, a moniker that

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most people see as an insult, which it is not.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
And don't turn the ball over.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Defense will take care of the rest, because that's where
the Steelers identity is now.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
From now on, the.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Best players on that side of the ball is what
it is.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
And if we can get flashes, if we can get
flashes and brilliants of the old Aaron Rodgers, so be it,
thank you. But the people on offense are going to
have to be the one to uplift Aaron Rodgers because
he's not the same quarterback he used to be where
he canough lift everyone else around him. It's completely opposite.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Now, I agree with you, I agree with everything that
you said. You look at their best player. They're on
that side of the ball, the defense side of the ball.
You look at TJ. Watt, you look at Cam Hayward,
you look at Jalen Ramsey, you look at Darius Slay,
Joey Porter Jr.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Their best players are on that side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Crazy and so Aaron just needs to be And Aaron
has never been a heavy turnover guy. Now, he threw
double digit interceptions, but that's not normally Aaron's I think
he only has a maybe two or three seasons in
which he's had double digit turnover interceptions. He's gonna We've

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seen him throw four interceptions over the course of a season.
We've seen him throw five interceptions, six interceptions over the
course of the seasons. He's normally very very good with
the ball. And that is the Aaron Rodgers. They need
the old Aaron Rodgers, not an old Aaron Rodgers. And
if he can give them that, give them that level
of consistency. I think they're gonna be in every game.

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If you think you're gonna just go in there and
blow the doors off there, that ain't gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
That ain't happen. I know that, listen.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
I know the names look good on paper, but all
the players that they've acquired are proven not on paper
but on the field.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
So you get those type of.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Players Jalen Ramsey and Daris Slaves, the Joey Porter Jr.
Who is very very good, who doesn't get theirs Because
everything is always talked about from an offen the standpoint,
especially referring to the quarterback position.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
You got t J.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Watt camp Man. Listen, they gonna be and that def
is gonna have games. We just need Aaron Rodgers not
the bottle it.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
They gonna be, all right, I agree, I agree.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Do you believe the Steelers will accept him?

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, yeah, that listen. They're not there to make friends.
Were not hit it, make frians. We hit it except
like listen, we here to do one thing. We got
one singular focus, win and do the best we can.
They have a good record, a decent enough record to
make to the playoffs, and from that point on. We
know it's four games after that.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's all it is.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
It becomes a new season four games after Yeah, can
we get to that point?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Well, the Steelers have gone to the playoffs, but they
haven't won a playoff game since twenty sixteen. I think
that was the year that they ended up beating think
they beat Kansas City. Remember they went to Kansas City
and le'byon had that outstanding game and they ended up
winning that game. But I don't if I'm not mistaken,
I could be wrong, So chat don't hold that against me.
But I don't think they won a playoff game since
twenty sixteen. That's almost been ten years. O'd joe for

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the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, listen, he's Steelers.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
The funny thing about it is they haven't it's been
ten years, but they've had.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Winning seasons insistently.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
How hard it is to get into the playoffs when
you're in at AFC, especially that damn division.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Min Yeah, Look, I think the thing is is that Terry. Look,
these guys like Terry, Terror's way over mine. Terry was
the number one over road draft pick in nineteen seventy.
Hell I was born in sixty eight, so two years
after I was born, Terry was. You know, I came
in the league in ninety that, so there's at least

(30:33):
what a twenty year age game. So if i'm if
I'm fifty seven, terror's got to be seventy seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah, long,
So he came out, So he had to came out
if he didn't rent shirt that.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
They weren't rich short like that back then.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
So he came out at twenty one twenty two in
nineteen seventy and it's what nineteen, it's twenty twenty five.
Now that's fifty five. That's fifty five years, So he
got to be he's gotta be seventy seven, maybe seventy eight.
Let me you know what, Let me google this, let
me see how I will tell you. But I think
it's hard for me to believe he's anything other than that.

(31:08):
Oh yo, yeah, because like I said, it's.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
A jem brad Shaw.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
He's seventy six more than nineteen forty eight. He'll be
seventy seven September second. So I'm right on it.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
You on it. It was a mad you're good with
numbers on.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Hey, Like I said, I don't think they red shirt
a whole lot back then, because you know Colin is
trying to get your answer out of that.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Hey, they weren't trying to pay for an extra year.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
But I think the thing is is that if you
look at those old old guys you play football, you
keep your mind shut.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
You go here, that's old, all that other stuff, it
annoys them.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Listen, you just said something earlier when we were talking
about the Super Bowl tickets and about a thing. Yeah,
some of the old players from that era, back in
those times, they had a way of doing things.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
But now, yes, we were.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
In the air.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
We've moved on and advance in certain areas, especially the
game of football.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Everybody doesn't act that way.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Everybody's not a robot, and they're approached to the game
and how they play or see it. So he to
adapt as well, which many of them haven't.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
No, No, because I think the greatest key is survival.
Survival is adaptability. And because the players were that way,
the coaches with that that way, ownership was that way,
and so they don't.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
See this like role and with Terry, Terry won four.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Super Bowls in six years, and so he's like, this
method is tried and true. The less distractions you present
for the team, the better off. You're gonna be all
this talking and all. But but that's that's how they
do it. Because look, some people can you know, can

(33:00):
party and can hang out, come in at two or
three in the morning, get two or three out of
sleep and function just fine. That wasn't what I could do.
I need to be sleep by ten, ten thirty. I mean,
it is what it is. And some guys can hang
out and drink and come in. And you just thought

(33:21):
they got to bed at seven thirty and they didn't
get to and they might have not got to bed
the seven thirty that morning.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, and that's the big boys.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, but that's but whodos Aaron said?

Speaker 2 (33:37):
And we're just taking him at his word.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
If terror he got to know him on a deeper level,
gave him a chance, who knows, they might hit it off.
He might actually like me, because I do think Errand
is a deep thinker. I think sometimes he does overthink things.
But hey, man, the old man, ohhow you know how

(33:59):
it is?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Man, When the mold people get set, they sitting there
way little.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
They're not changing that, they're not evolving. They think everything
works based on how they had success. Well, it worked
for me, it should work for you, so you should
be doing it this specific way.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Nothing.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
They're not good with technology the whole nine yards.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
It's hard when you're only looking through your lens. See,
Terry only sees things through his lens. And so.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
It's tough.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
It's tough on Joe when you criticize somebody and all
of a sudden they come play for the organization that
you played for. Now, what works in Terry's favor is
that Terry is not really around. He's not like rested
Soul Franco used to be around all the time. Mel
Blood is around all the time. Terry Terry works something.
Terry is not around. And unless f half the super Bowl,

(35:00):
he's not gonna be a right. So, And like I said,
I I've been around Terry, you know, worked at that,
worked at Fox for years and and and and and
and met Terry. He's a he's a country he's a
country guy that I.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Think, what does he have now? He used to have cattle.
I think he got horses now.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
And you know, he's gonna tell it like it is
no matter who it is too.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Huh, Hey, you're gonna you're gonna tell you just like
Alon said that our word, you're gonna gettee you row
pause mm h yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, yeah he is. And so you know.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
His family, Like I said, I know in the beginning,
But if I'm not mistaken, I.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Think Terry has I think he raises quarter horses. Now.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
I know one point in time he had cattle. He
had beef cattle. Uh, he was in the cattle business.
I don't know if he still has it. He had,
you know, big rank, you know he had you know,
probably I don't know ten thousand.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Do you ever you ever rode quarter horse before?

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Nah man? We had a pony growing up. We had
a pony named Ringo. Uh uh.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
I had a cousin had a horse named Lady, who
is an apple looser, you know, white with the black spots.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
But nah, no, I ride horses. You know, I'm not
damn davy out there.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Man.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Man, you ride horses consistently when I when I have time. Obviously,
the god damn quarter horse man, they ride. They ride
like real You could feel every goddamn thing. It's like
move nothing.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Man, They look at it. Look now he looking to run,
don't yo. He look for you to ride.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
You if you want something to ride or you want
something to ride, say the ride or or the work.
You need to get a saddle horse. You didn't get
a horse. That's that's specific. What are the fair bread
men to do?

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Running is fine, and just the ride is rough. Now
you can't remember Filipino. I can't remember the name of
the kind of horses they have in the Dominican Republican
they're not that big, but it feels like you're riding
on clouds. They gonna it feel like you know, it's
so smooth and it's so easy to catch your rhythm.
Them goddamn quarter horses. Man, you every goddamn even if

(37:13):
you try, you know, I've been riding, Yes, now can't
you catch them?

Speaker 2 (37:16):
You try to go with? It is still rough.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yeah, I can't remember the kind of horses they have
in the Dominican Republic.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Starts with a pee Philip something might have been a Filipino.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, listen, no, I just like you know, just all
just looking at the horse, the muscular structure, and you're
looking at an animal that's a thousand pounds, that ankle
bonus the size of a human.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
And that's why they have so much problem a horse.
You look you look at a horse, an animal that's
a thousand pounds and the ankles are not much bigger
than a human.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
That's why they've break so eak.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
That's what you know, that's why, that's why you have
the problem that you have have And you know a
lot of times what they do when breaking you, you know,
you put him down because you're asking him to try
to put that weight to redistribute that weight. It's sad,
that's what it is. But uh now, but look, I
wish you know Terry and and Aaron can get somewhere

(38:17):
and the conversation. We never hear about it. We never
hear about it because I don't think we need to
hear about it. I don't think we need to know
about it. But I think, you know, there's some things
that you know, Terry would probably want to share with Aaron,
and Aaron would want to share with Terry, and they
could they could move the ball forward. But that's something
that we shouldn't We don't have to know.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
I'm sure listen, I'm sure Aaron's going to find a
way to get it, to have a conversation with him,
ask for his number of Terry's going to find a
way to reach out to him, just because you're planning
from an organization. I didn't mean what I said like that.
But they're going to talk. And you know Aaron Robbers,
he shares everything, is everything, So at some point during
the season, it's going to come out that we had

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a conversation. If he's not quill, Terry's, you're gonna let
his ass happen on TV.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
And the thing is, and also, Terry doesn't live in Pittsburgh.
I think Terry lives in Oklahoma near the Texas Board
or something like that. So he's not like one of
these his great players for team players that live in
the city in which they played a lot of time.
You know, players that were great, they still live there
because you know, oho, I can cash in you know,

(39:23):
autograph signing and appearances and speaking engagements and things of
that nature the team, you know, team activities, stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
They can take advantage of that. But Terry, Terry left Terry.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I don't think Terry only lived in Pittsburgh probably during
the season and once the season was over gone. Terry
tilk all right, Yeah, Jamar Stewart in the Cincinnata agreement
four years, fully guaranteed a little less than nineteen million dollars.
That includes ten point four million signing bonus. Every twenty five.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
First round pick is nine signed.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Stewart spoke after practice saying there was a There was
never me versus anybody. We just didn't see out of
eye at that point. And at the end of the day,
I'm happy to Bill Bingle, I'm happy that I got
drafted here. We have a long relationship ahead of us.
There's no bad blood. It's just just how things go sometimes.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Listen is uncle's business.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
It's been I want to say congratulations to Shamar Stewart
and his his representation, Mike Brown, Katie Troy Duke, everyone
else getting this deal done. Shamar Stewart is now in camp.
He didn't miss that well, he missed with one one
or two days. Uh, but he missed two.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Couple of day. He missed a couple of days. You know,
he didn't do any of the OTAs and things.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Like that, right, so the team he has a lot
of catching up to do. I'm hoping. I'm sure he
was working. I'm sure he was working out wherever he was,
obviously at Texas A and M.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
But it's different.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
It's different instructuring environment with your own team and your players.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
You can work out as long as you want.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
You know after that second or third day, you're gonna
be so as hell no matter what you do.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
It's so because they people.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
You don't have people pulling and push on you the
way the way it happens in that structuring environment. So
I'm hoping he does well, stays healthy, stays healthy despite
the days he missed, and that's the key.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
And hope. I hope he goes out there and shows
off because not all.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Eyes on him, all eyes on him because of the
hold out whatever whatever was going on, all eyes on him,
and based on what type of production you're going to
put up for what you were putting the fans through,
that's how they see it. But to do this, you
got us waiting, whatever it may be, even though it
was business, all eyes on you.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Now you just got to show up, show up, and
show out. That's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
You're absolutely right. You get in football shape playing football. Yeah,
I don't care how much you run on your you
need to play football.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
To get in football shape.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
You need to put those pads on, put that helmet
on and like you say, oh Joe, have people pushing, pulling,
tugging on you.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
You work.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
You need to do that in a in a in
a in a practice, or a football type atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Run it.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Look, I understand that running sprints give you a nice foundation,
but it ain't the same at all. It's not the same.
And like you and I think, oh, y'all, he got
a little bit more money. He had to give up something.
They had to give up something. I think at the
end of the day, that's that's probably how negotiation should work.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I give a little, you give a little. We both
feel like we got had.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Hey, we're good, uh, because because sometimes on your negotiations
can make it awkward. You know what I'm saying. I
feel like I gave up too much. You feel like
you gave up too much, and now we got bad blood.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
It's just been the sung It's just been. It's at
the end of the day.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
You know a game that you love to play as
a kid, You just get to a point in life
when you get so good at it and.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
People pay for it.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
People pay for what you.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Love to do, right.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
And the old addage never do something for free that
somebody will pay you for.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
And Jamar Steory like, hey, y'all gonna pay it for football.
Let me try to get as much as I can,
and rightfully so. I mean most services probably started out
as free and then somebody saying, I'll pay you to
do that. You will because oh Joe what he would say? Man, Hey,

(43:35):
I love the game so much, I play for free.
And that when the coach told me, what time about Joe, say,
that's what I love about Shadon Shark, this guy he
would play the game for free, I said, yeah, but
I'm gonna need the mother forty five more folds. I
ain't gonna be the only one to play for just
so just so weak cly. Yeah, I play for free,
but I ain't gonna be the only one that ain't
getting no check if everybody ain't get the check. Yeah, hey,

(43:57):
I'm here, but I'm happy. I'm happy for a young
fella like you said. I don't think he missed a
couple of no more than a couple of days of camp.
Hopefully he's a see I couldn't learn like that. I'm
a I'm a visual learningbout you. I need you draw
and I need to go through it.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
You know what I'm saying. Need, I need to go through.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Put my bike like, okay, what's gonna be dis coverage? Okay,
you know on this guy is a little faster than
this guy, so he gonna clear it out a little better.
I'm gonna be able to get I just need to
be there. I gotta see it.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
I ain't a guy you just drawed him and says, okay,
go do it.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
That.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
I needed you draw it up and now let me
go out there and do it.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Execute it.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, I got to do that.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
And also, coach, when you draw it up, I know
how you drew it. But every time you draw something up,
it's not gonna look that way on the field because
there's somebody in front of me trying to stop me.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, to make us know that you drew up that
didn't move. They stayed exactly where you put them back.
They ain't nobody drop, ain't nobody did nothing.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Oh man, when I got out of that guy tried
to kill me. Grab my face, man, machorrety's a hold
of my play. I was like with damn.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Y yeah, yes and so and it's like, well, I
was like, man, my clock had to go off. I
think by the time John took the ball, he took
three steps. Uh you know that is Bruce Smith, that's Reggie,
that's DT. I mean, how much time you think? How

(45:39):
much time you Thinke? I'm sorry I didn't go well,
you know, you got to get your depth. I said, yeah,
if I have got the extra if I went an
extra three yard, Johnny got hit in the back of
his head extra hard. So the extra two yard save
John the extra hard hit.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah, that's funny, man.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
So, uh, congratulations, young fella. Now just go out there
and do what you do and uh make it happen.
Tua look to rebuild a relationship with Tyreek Hill after
the weeks Week eighteen outbird. Let's take a listen to
what Tua had to say.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
You guys aren't the only people that heard that. You
know a lot of people that follow football, that follow
the Miami Dolphins, that follow Tyreek, that are fans of his.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Everyone has seen that.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
So when you say something like that, it's you don't
just come back from that with hey my bad. Now
you got you gotta work that that relationship up. You
got to build everything up again. And yeah, that it's
still a work in progress, not just for me but
for everybody. But like I said, he's he's working on himself.

(46:42):
He's working on the things that he say. You know,
he says he wants to get better with and do
better on. So that's the first step to me, and
so I commend him for doing that, not one I
told you, Yeah, not at all.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Can you refresh the people that are that are watching,
the people that are listening what he's referring to though,
because he said something, but the people might need context
if they don't remember what Tyreek said at the end
of the season.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Well, I can't give you ver Beta, but I think
he said something that he might be looking to get
out of here because he liked the winning, and you know,
he got to do what's in the best interest for him.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Uh, things of that nature.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
He did, he did.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
But I think I think also I love what I
love it too, said obviously publicly two is going to
have his receiver's back, but also hold his receiver accountable
everything he said. Also for me as a as a
football player, a former player, understanding the frustrations that the
receiver would have who've had a down season for the

(47:42):
first time, who's not used to having a lackluster season
like that. The frustrations build up, the inconsistency. All right,
I'm not used to this, So what's the first thing
you do? You vent about not actually wanting to be
in that situation anymore and seeing that whatever meant that
Tyrek was trying to do, and trying to maybe find
a way to get out of the Miami and find
some word scope, maybe back to Kansas City or wherever

(48:03):
it may be, it didn't work out that way. Sweat
af through the Now. I can't take what I said back.
All I can do is work on myself, Apologize to
my teammates, apologize to my quarterback and my coaches. And
it's one way to make them forget about everything is
do what you do best, catching touchdowns, that's catching passes,
and working your ass off. And that's three things that
he already does, which is why he's one of the

(48:25):
best at what he does now in the game.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
I think he's gonna be fine.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Sometimes when you're angry or yourn and I get it,
and I hate that, I really do. I hate when
guys get angry and they don't speak to the media,
because when you score fifty. There's never a time when
somebody dropped fifty in the NBA they didn't speak to
the media. There's never a time when somebody had one
hundred and fifty two hundred three touchdowns they didn't speak

(48:53):
to the media. But the moment you get a little frustrated,
you don't want to speak to the media. That's But
in certain situations, if it's a situation where you so
upset and the words that come out of your mouth
might do irreparable harm, go ahead and chalking them.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Say they I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
I can't speak right now.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
But what did what did you?

Speaker 4 (49:13):
What's what's you're saying? When emotions are high, logic.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Is logic is low. And that's why I said, you
know what, and I get up. I don't I want
you to good batter and disser cause you make the
same money. It ain't like so you know why I
had a bad game. Oh yo, so oh Joe had
a bad game. Oh Cho only had four for fifty yards. Well,
o Jo, we're gonna give you four for fifty yards money.

(49:36):
O Cho had ten for two sixty Okay, now, oh Cho,
we're gonna give you ten for two sixty money.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
You make the same either way. But we are human.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, there there were times, man, I spoke to the
media after the game. I'm seething because I know we
had some guys that didn't play like they were supposed to,
and sometimes I was one of those guys.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
Oh same, same, Listen, I remember my games where I
played bad.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
I'm about vividly, yes, Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Tell the media, I gotta do better. John's job is
to throw it. My job is to catch it. Well,
if he's throwing it, I ain't catch it. I ain't
doing my job. So I'm letting him and the team down.
M I like the fact that to all acknowledge what
he said because a lot of times, oh man, we know,

(50:27):
we know how guys are so far the song that's
our brother.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
He didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
That lets me know that what he said not only
bothered him, but it bothered other people in the room.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
And they had a conversation with Tom. They talked to
Tyrek about this.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Absolutely, absolutely, they talked.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
To Tyrek about this.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
And I like that old Joe because you know, sometimes,
oh Joe, they try to gloss it over.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Man, you know, it ain't that big of a deal. Oh,
absolutely badly.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
And there's only one person that can get away with
saying that, and that was the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
That's the only one. That's the only person because.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
It all fat all falls back on quarterback not being there. Okay,
my numbers on what they used to be and anything
that Tyreek says at the end of the season. Who
they gonna point the finger at?

Speaker 3 (51:09):
What?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
The back?

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yeah and so h but Tyreek, Tyreek knows what he
has to do. I looked at Tyreek's body this year
compared to what it was last year.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
He looked ten fifteen pounds.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Like I told you, I told you what. It looked
like the god damn workout. Uh why that work out worked?

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yeah? Oh my god, he looked.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
He look the thing you though, Joe, He's already so
explosive even if he leaves a step.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Yeah, he's still in the league.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
A completely crazy And you know what, the fact he
didn't lose the step because he just ran a goddamn
ten one last month, what do we what? And he's
not even training to run track? How you you're not
even track training and you ran a ten one. Imagine
if he was in track shape or had track technique

(51:57):
or got track coaching that that ten one drop down
nine nine.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah, you might definitely get this. He probably get the
ten easy, easy.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Man, he's gonna be he gonna be alright though, he's
gonna be all right.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
He's gonna be but he's just like, look, you gotta
realize where he came from. See, they never had these
problems in Kansas City. So Tyreek k used to this.
Tyreek used to be my homeboy being there, and so
he used to like knowing Okay, now granted, now his
first couple of years in Miami.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
He's number one. He's gonna get all the balls blah
blah blah.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Now and in Kansas City, you know, he had to
split that with Kelsey, maybe Sammy Watkins or maybe someone else.
But he knew he's gonna get X and he knew
Mahomes was going to be there. It's hard no matter
how great you are. Look, only DeAndre Hopkins can just

(52:54):
go through quarterbacks and still put up Pro Bowl all pronog.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
You know who else did it? God Damn Andrejohnson.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Yeah, or had a quarterback carrousel as well, And for
some resonduction didn't even matter regards who's got that throwing it.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Yeah, so I'm happy, uh that he said Tyreek is working.
But like you said, it takes time. And see o Joe,
he could have lied, oh yeah, we're gonna move past
that and moved on and.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Say nah no uh uh uh uh uh.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
We're gonna make everybody figured about this week one, guarantee
you because you know, I know, I know what Mike
mcdame's gonna do. I know what he's gonna I know
what he's gonna call coming on the gate Week one.
They dialing up ten.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
But see, that's where that's where you need leadership, because
look at the situation that we dealt with in Baltimore
in two thousand, the offense with five weeks and we
didn't score a touchdown. It could have it could have
split us at the scenes. And the thing that really
helped me Ray Woody. Two guys on defense, one guy

(54:08):
on offense. We were really close. We did everything together.
On the road, was in each other's room, laughing, talking.
We went out we always, we always went out together.
We went to get something eat, we did that together.
And I just remember telling them, I said, you guys, y'all, y'all,
y'all are doing unbelievable, y'all having a great season, historically

(54:29):
great season, I say. But the thing I loved about
football is they don't take great units to the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
They take teams. So I don't care.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I don't care what y'all do if we don't start
doing our part. But when we start doing our part,
don't you guys, let that we'll get what we have
to get fixed. Y'all get state of course, and me
being able to relay that to Woody, to be able
to relay that to Rod excuse me, to a Ray

(55:02):
and to let them know that. Hey, and then you know,
to tell Brian bro I ain't tell anything you don't know,
but it ain't getting done. Yeah, we're gonna do.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
When I think about that twenty team y'all had, ye
deefens was so good.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
It was so good.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
Y'all didn't have to be as great as they did.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
All you had, no all, y'all.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Unfair all y'all had to do. Just meet him halfway,
Just meet him halfway. Give us, give us ten points.
We'll take your arrest.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Hey, if we got if we gotta, if we got
a ten enough to lead, Oh, it was old unless
unless we fumbled and you got a scooping store. You
gotta pick sex with Marvin Lewis. We started playing and
Marvin would say, Shay, give us team.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah, I say ten. What we ain't about to get honest? Ten?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
What Marvin said? I remember we playing. We started playing,
Marvin say, hey, give us ten. We got to the playoffs.
Marvin say, give us seven. I say, Marvin, do you
realize what you're saying? I said, Martin, this team's in
the playoffs. He said, should give us seven and give
it to us early. We played the Raiders, Uh uh,

(56:24):
and that we had a great deal. So Marvin was
the DC. Jack Dale Rial was the linebackers coach. Rex
Ryan was the D line coach. I think, uh, who
is the who is our DV coach? I forget his name,
but he ended up going to be DC somewhere. But

(56:46):
we were loaded. Were playing the Raiders in the championship game.
They said, give us seven. It's over. She'll say, Shay,
y'all give us seven early at the half it's over.
I said, Ray, they number they like the number one
scoring team in football. What you mean give him? Give us?
Say shape, give us sealing at the half? I said, well,

(57:11):
I'm good for selling, big place shame, oh, big place shake,
good for sealing. I got that, Hey, I got that touchdown.
I came to the sideline like smoking Mama told him
make it work. Yeah, this ain't nothing. Smoker ain't enough.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
It ain't enough. She's ain't making enough.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
Hey, was it running back in the Napoleon coffin back then?

Speaker 2 (57:33):
No, it was Charlie Gardner.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Okay, I forgot about Charlie. I've got it.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Charted Charlie Garner. Nah, nah, I don't think. I don't
think that nappy was there then.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
He was nice. He was nice too.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
He had speed. Now you let him get outside. Now
he's gonna cause some problem for you.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
He hit us with about two hundred one in one
year at the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
But I think that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
I think that's where veteran presence comes in, especially guys
that are that's not really concerned about numbers or or
you're trying to win at a certain point in time.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Bro, what.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Man, I don't care how much money you make. Man,
when you lose it, it's sucks bad man. You man,
you hate I'm like, damn.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
You ain't.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Joe and people, people in chat. You're not thinking about
a check. You're like, man, I'm not hearing this heat.
I'm out here in this cold. I'm out here, you know,
with the my body's aching, I'm hurting and we losing.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Hey, hold on, now, you got to think about this.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Now, I was in Cincinnati eleven years, but ten You
know how many winning scenes that had in Cincinnati?

Speaker 2 (58:52):
How many?

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Maybe maybe what two? One able to be able to
on that. There's a reason I chose to have so
much fun. There's a reason. How do I block out
the losing part?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
I don't know better man than me.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Hey, make sure I'm doing everything I can. That's all
I can do. I know that two.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Thousand and five season, that was a winning season. We
might have had it, might have might have had two
winning seasons maybe in your career or in Cincinnati, ship
Lisnati is my career.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
What you mean? You played in New England? You got
a year out there.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
I don't count.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Man, that's on your resume. And guess what, if you
go to the hall, they're gonna put that.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
I ain't going to the hall. I put my own
jacket on.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
That's okay. But if you were to they're gonna put
it and everybody.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
I guarantee you go to Wikipedia and see if they
got New England in there. Go to pull up, pull
up a chat, pull up oh Choe, Wikipedia, and see
if they mentioned anything about New England they will.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
I bet he don't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I bet they do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
I don't even know that. I don't know how to
get on Wikipedia.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Don't worry about it. I'll thig to get on that
for you. I better get on that for you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Oh you might need to have him to take that
spouse thing off there, But that's neither here nor there
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
What is it saying?

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
I ain't say nothing, but I'm saying, oh uh. He
played foot college at Santa Monica, Cousar.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
August that's me. That's me, August State.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
That's me, August State, biebers And he played for Cincinnati
Bengals and the New England Patriots during his tenure playing
in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
Hold on, what about they ain't putting I played in
manti All too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
No, they didn't put that up there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
I played in Mexico too. They ain't put that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Oh they did. They said.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
He Cincinnati Bingles from two thousand and one to twenty ten.
The Patriots twenty eleven. They got an asterisk by Miami,
but Madre Allen West in twenty fourteen and they're moder
rate in two thousand and See.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
See, you know what, I have the greatest career of
any any NFL player ever because I played in the States,
I played in Canada, and I played in Mexico. Who
else could say that, yeah, yeah, what are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Different?

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Different member of He was a member of the Bengals
forty anniversary and fiftieth anniversary teams.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
That's b that's me. See, hey, I was good because
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
How good you gotta. You know how good you got
to be to play in the States. You can play
in the NFL, play in Canada and Canada. Listen, Oh
I told you about my experience in Canada. Ain't no
way in hell some of them fellas should be dying
in Canada. What I think people look at the pay
or the different and think, oh Canada, sweet man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
What was the Cam Lake who didn't have a Miami
had a guy that came Canada came.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
That's just that's just one of there. There are a
few examples of people that born moved Doug flu but
it's so many more, the numbers, the politics, the opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
There are so many players in.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Canada like it almost irks my soul that they didn't
get the opportunity because there's no reason you should be here.
Every week we play somebody different. I've seen maybe four
or five guys, why why are you here doing?

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
But anyway, that's neither here, no