Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Shedeur Sanders shining in his first preseason game!

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Shedeur Sanders playing great in his first preseason game with the Cleveland Browns, Tom Brady had some funny comments during his statue being unveiled, and Lions Falcons preseason game gets suspended after Lions safety suffers a serious injury and much more!

0:00 - Shedeur Shines in first preseason game
27:38 - Lions-Falcons game suspended
30:41 - Tom Brady statue unveiled
46:54 - Geno Smith and Maxx Crosby out here trippin
49:00 - CeeDee Lamb
53:15 - Aaron Rodgers asked to create the perfect receiver
57:00 - Nick Chubb believes he belongs in the D.Henry category
1:03:25 - Dolphins had disappointing joint practice with Bears

 

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being spelled out. That link is pinned in the chat.
O Yo, Chador shines in his first preseason game eleven
of nineteen, one hundred and three yards passing two tds.
You know Coach Prime was fired up times. Yes, Lord, yes,
Shador Sanders. Oh yeah what now Coach Prime? God is good.

(02:23):
Shout out to Cocho Butter Brothers for sending us this video.
Lebron James even way then, that young king looking good
out there, Shador Sanders. Keep going up, head down and
grind and head high to the most and head high
to the most high Jordan shows take from a high
ranking AFC North executive on the Browns rookie or Sanders.

(02:46):
It's early, but wow, actually shot, how good he looks.
Nike Football, when you get your opportunity, create the next one.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Only matter of time, yeah, o Jo, yeah, we could look, we.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Could pick two plays, Oh Joe, Well damn he missed
the Sam Strong safety blitz. Why he had a guy
ride over to the Plato second and at and he
skipped the ball to him. But you saw that over
route that Brock Party throws so well in the San
Francisco offense. You see him fit the ball into those
time those small windows. Did you see him on the
move throw that touch pass? Now the receiver made a
great one head to catch, But did you see the touch?

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yes, So take off.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Your head listen.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
I wanted to see what should do would look like
in a situation that wasn't advantageous to him. He didn't
get any reps, so as many reps as he should
to prepare himself to be prepared for a game like this,
to this magnitude, Dylan Brooks Hurd, can.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
You picking her?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Joe Flacco not playing so the car that he was
dealt to go into this game?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Can you be a leader of men? Can you go
in calm, show.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Presence of leadership, run the team, command the team, show
that regardless of who's a regardless of who's around you,
you can still conduct yourself Like quarterback one. He was
calm under pressure, went through his progressions, made some great throws,
had some air and throws. You know, obviously, that's what

(04:20):
film is for, that's what the precist is for. The
fix to fix the nooks in the crannies, to get
him out. He looked like he belong he looked different
he did, Andrew Barrier, you made the right call. There's
a reason that you wanted him. There's no reason he
should have dropped as far as he did. You cannot
tell me as any scout of those thirty two teams

(04:44):
that didn't need to starting quarterback, but those that needed
a quarterback and we're in need of one. Watch film
on Shador Sanders and what he did at Jackson State
and we did at Colorado, and said, you know what, no,
that's not my guy. The quote you just read from
a scout in the AFC North. If you watch film,
what did you expect him to look like? He looked

(05:07):
exactly like he looked in Colorado. He looked exactly like
he looked at Jackson State, Calm, under pressure, in the pocket,
going through progressions, making the right throws.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
That's what I expected to see.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
What they expected to see and what some hope to
see might be two entirely different things.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Talk to me, don now.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Hope, man, I show hope, man, I show hope this
happens man versus expect to see what I wanted to see.
I wanted to see exactly what you what you wanted
to see. I want to see. Could he play with poise?
Could he throw the ball with conviction? Could he be decisive?
Could he go through his progressions the pocket collapses? Could

(05:56):
he take off? He showed me some of everything. The
over route, threw it on time and in his face.
Let him boom, drop me right in the bucket. He
fit those balls. A pressure in his face. The second touchdown,
pressure in his face. The first touchdown, the corner slumps
off the flat, the safety is hugging it.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
He gits it in, gets it.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
In, boom on the move. The touch pass over the top.
As I mentioned at the top, the receiver did make
a great play. But your door had a nice loft.
That's not as easy to throw the mate. He was
impressive tonight. Barry and a lot of people, they were
in the chat last night. Let's see what your door does.
Let's see what your door does.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, hold on.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
You know what they're gonna say now, Oh, it's the preseason.
Oh he's not playing against their starters. Oh he's playing
against the gym.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
He didn't have the starters either.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well, help hello, talk to ce Jared Judy. I didn't
see in Joe Coup, I didn't see the starting offensive line,
No send to chillmen.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
So this is what I have to say to those
who are gonna have another feech They're gonna move the
gold host right, They're gonna runs and say, well he
won the going against the Panther starters. Well, obviously if
he's not going against the Panther starters, or if he
doesn't have his starters as well, and what he has
at the disposal, and look that good with the twos
and threes and maybe the four.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
That are trying to make the team.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
What do you think is gonna happen when he had
the main characters in there round him, right, that makes
your job a little bit easier, that a little bit
better at their position than those that he's playing with
the Knight, What you think.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Gonna happen where they can try to do the gold post?
But I ain't trying to kick a field goal or
pat So I'm gonna score anyway, and your duer Sander's
score tonight. I'm gonna give Crady words due fourteen to
twenty three, one hundred and thirty eight yards, two touchdowns,
no interception, he got two sacks.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Like I said, we can pick a couple of things.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, it's a strong safety of the sam strong safety
blitz to all of them, like you know what. But
it looked like he was telling the god bro, I
need you to hook up on that. You probably not
gonna be able to outrun the safety. Lamar Jackson hold
on to the ball a little longer because he get
outrun the safety, johsh Allen. Same thing that's not your doing.
Your door is not a mobile quarterback. He's going to
do all most, the majority of his damage is going

(08:04):
to be in the pocket. Oho, tom Brady, I'm not
saying he's Tom Brady, but he has the athleticism.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
That's not what he's known for. Go ahead, Ojo.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
This is then what he lackses athleticism and inability to
get out the pocket.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
He has. He has great pocket presents on being.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Able to move and be able to not telegraph but
understand when that clock is ticking and when it's time
to get up out of there. You can extremely well
within the pocket without having to take sacks.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
What about the third down? The third down when.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
He scrambled the D line random stunt, he was able
to get outside of it first, Like.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
You know what, I like the most he saw the
stunt and took off immediately. Yes, Yes, that's what I like. Oh, Yo,
that's what I like. Oh y'all, Oh, I all know
who's supposed to go first and who's supposed to I
all know who's supposed to eat or who's supposed to T.
And I don't know who's supposed to t who's supposed
to eat. But I did you what I'm I'm gone. Yeah, yeah, y'all,
I tell you what y'all figured out in film study tomorrow.

(09:04):
But in the mean, in the meantime, I'm about to
pick up this. I'm about to pick up the first down. Uh,
he's played himself. He might have started after four, but
after this performance, he can't be number four because the
fat O Joe.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Told him something very very interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
He says, you can't lose your job because of injury,
because let me tell you what's gonna happen. If you
get injured and you're out and a guy comes in
and he's playing better than you before you got injured,
it's his job. Now, ask yourself with Dylan Gaber before
he got hurt, was he playing better than what you saw?

(09:45):
What your door Sanders do tonight? Kenny Pickett ask yourself
this question. Was he playing better than what your doer
was than what your door played tonight. So if you're
gonna honestly ask us, ask answer those questions, okay.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Right, And the thing about it what people need to understand.
For those that in the chat, it's one thing to
have joint practices. It's one thing to practice against yourself
and look good against your players, and you get scripted
on Everything is scripted, even defensively in those joint practices
at times, because there's certain things they want to work
on defensively and there's certain things that you want to

(10:21):
work on offensively. When you get into the game, nothing
nothing is shared from team to team, so it's a
green light and everything going as if it's a real game.
You're working your scheme, your game plan, and all you
have to do is execute it. And it's simplest form,
as simple as preseason games are from an offensive perspective

(10:44):
in the way the players are called. And he did
that tonight to a hell of a job, one hell
of a job tonight, And this is just something to
continue to build off of.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Clean up.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
There were some mistakes, obviously, they're gonna always be mistakes,
and then things you can get better at. As you
continue to see any different looks, you're not gonna get
many looks. Obviously it's the preseason. Everything you see defensively
will be very vanilla. You know, cover tool sometimes that
you might throw on. You know, don't count the plays, Ojo,
make the plays count?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, oh and listen, he made him count the night on.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
You know what you have to do when you're low
round draft pick ocho me being a sep no bark
being a being a low round draft pick. Oho, you're
not gonna get the plays that a high round draft
pick is gonna get.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
So don't go out there thinking that.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
But when it's your time, shine, Yes, when it's your time,
shine and that Hey you say I don't count time,
I make time count. Well, I didn't count plays, as
my brother used to say. Hey, I know you ain't
get that many reps. Keep your head up because one
day John Elwire gonna call for you. He gonna look
for you. You need to make sure you're ready. You
need to be make sure you where you're supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Right SR. Door didn't get a whole lot of reps.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
But when opportunity presents itself, That's what luck is is
when operation me some opportunity.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Amisen said, some call it luck.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
I'm glad you just said what you just said.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
You just said you didn't get as many reps as
you should have in practice.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
But he got into a game, and what did he
do on react?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
But the refs that he did get in practice, he
made those counts because a lot of times I've seen it.
I don't know if you see it on you I've
seen god man, I ain't getting no burn man, I can't.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
And then when you get out there, you're fing up.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Your door, says, hey, these one or two reps I
might get with thee the threes and fours. I got
to make these counts. He's got to be my This
has got to be my best work of the day. Yeah,
because you know which, it might be my only work
of to day. So if it's my only it's got
to be my best because this is the only time
they're going to see me on tape, they see me

(12:49):
standing behind it.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
You know, Hey, I'm being positive.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
A good throw, a good catch, good run, good job,
offensive line, good play call, coach, But at the end
of the day, I need to get an opportunity to
show you what I can do, and when the opportunity
presents itself, that's what look is preparation meeting opportunity.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Thominson said, some call it luck.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Hey, hey, listen, I'm happy. I'm happy for young Bull.
I'm happy for young Bull. This is one of the
few times I can't think of the last time that
everyone was excited excited about wanting to watch a Cleveland
Browns game.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Did you see all them people in the stands with
the twelve and with the signs? Did you see all
that O joke?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Cleveland Brown's game clean on the road?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Cleveland don't travel like that.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Trust me. I was in the same division with the jokers.
Guess what we used to play them saying saying they
don't they didn't travel like that. Yeah, and they ain't
got no reason to travel because it's been bad a
long time.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, So listen tonight we saw a very small sample size.
We saw very small sam size. Yes, of what you
do or sayers can look like the fact that he
played with the tools, with the threes, maybe against twos
and threes, but.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, for sure, I say this to say that what
happens when he's with the ones.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Having to win that same offense, right, and you and
you guess what, and you go and you game plan.
I'm just calling plays arbitrally. Oh that's all they do.
I'm not game planning. I'm not game planning because we
normally game plan game three. We go back and now
the coaches go back and they look at what they
did last season, and we script the game plan that's

(14:26):
gonna be what we think we're gonna see him. First down,
second down, third down, third and short, third and long,
just down in distance area of the field, first and goal,
second and goal, third and goal. Now we're calling plays,
not just the arbitrarilly called plays. We're calling plays with
a purpose, for a purpose, and eventually they're going to
get to that.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
But I was in pressed. Look, I understand it's the preseason.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
But for someone that didn't get as many reps, made
the reps that he did get, he made them count
in practice, and when he got his opportunity to win,
an opportunity to presented itself, he took full advantage. Tom Race,
the opportunity presented itself, which is say, when the rubber
meat the what when the rubber meat the road man

(15:11):
and so uh your door. He should he should be
proud of himself. Uh you know him being who he is, raised,
how he was raised. I'm supposed to say reared. I
guess you raised livestocking animals. But anyway he raised, how
he was raised, He's not gonna be. He's not gonna be.
He's not gonna get. He's not gonna get too because

(15:32):
guess what, even kill.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, you got to stay even killed.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
You know why because not only having to deal with
the noise on the outside, that's one thing, but now
you got you got to deal with the noise on
the inside, especially with the owner coming out just last
year and that wasn't my pigure.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah you want you have? How you doing?

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Make sure Andrew Berry gets all the credit like you said,
brother has him. Don't smile, don't don't even don't say anything.
Start with ass.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
He said that the.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Nerve the gall I'm a Paul, Well, I'm a David.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
I'm gonna say it one more plant and this is
for everybody in the chat. If even if you don't
like you do it, even if you don't like him.
How do you watch film college film on Shador Sanders
and every other quarterback that would before him and see
what all of them are.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Done and say, you know what, No, I'm a passive
for him.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
That's not the guy I want right New Orleans Saints,
Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I don't know what other teams that were the need
of a quarterback. How do you do it? I'm just
asking from a person that played the game of football
and understanding. I have an eye. I have an eye.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
I played the game for a very long time at
a very high level. I'm not saying I'm a scout,
but I noticed supposed to look like in situations that
are not advantageous for you. I just saw a young
fella winning Jackson State turned a Colorado program around that
when one game, regardless of what his record was in

(17:16):
his totality twenty three and twelve, whatever may have been,
I know what he can do when you got the
right pieces around him.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
I know what he can do.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
He's a win nerd regards to what situation you put
him in. And he showed it again to night, yet
again to night. What his back up against the wall.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, he just has the demeanor to be a quarterback.
Nothing seems to impact him. He doesn't get too high.
He doesn't get too low. He has the utmost confidence
in himself, and most the good ones really do, no
matter how bad. And we've seen it, no matter how
bad it might be going the really good ones, you know,
if it laid the ball game, they got a chance

(17:54):
to beat you and your doors in the situation where
it's like, doesn't make any excuses, and he always says
the right thing. Listen, it's not as easy as you
think to always say the right thing, because you're dealing
with the human element of it, the human element of it,
no matter how much you have, no matter how little
you have, no matter how good you've been, no matter

(18:16):
how bad you've been, you're dealing with the human element
of it. And people have emotions, people have feelings, and
so sometimes when people lash out and say things like
damn man, you know you take the amount of time.
But he hears what's being written about it. Absolutely he hears.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
He sees. If he doesn't he's getting work, it's getting.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Back to him.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
But I just love the way the man he kept
his head down, closed off his ears and just did
what he was supposed to do. He went to work. Yeah,
and that's that's how you have to approach it. Don't
get mad. I ain't trying to prove y'all wrong. I'm
trying to prove me right, and in the process has
proven me right, I'll prove you wrong.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
It was.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
It was a great job. It was his first outing.
Like I said, those throws it was the throat. It
wasn't so it was it was the throws that he made.
Oh Joe, go back and take a look at that
overball and we see brock Perdy throw three or four
of those game to IU, can you used to have
breath h debo on those playes? You'll kiddle on the
over look at how you threw that ball, the timing

(19:23):
of it.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Do you do?

Speaker 4 (19:24):
You do you understand the anticipatory skills you have to
have as a quarterback with pressure coming at you. There
was one, There was one. There was one overthrow he
couldn't even see. Yeah, because on the replay we.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Couldn't even see him. We just saw them all come out.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
So he's anticipating where the receiver was gonna be and
he just made it throw and put it only where
the receiver could catch it.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yep, that first test game.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
You understand when.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
People saw tonight, I don't think they understand how difficult
the game is. I don't think they understand how different
the game is. But he made it look like he's
been doing it for a.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Very long time.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
It's his first time, it's his first time in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Game, but he's used to it. Chad. Look at his mannerisms.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Look how you walk on the first down. Okay, he
almost did the white celebrations. He said, you know what,
I'm looking at the time, but it ain't time yet.
And just just everything about him and being quarterback number one,
just the way he characterself. He was ready for the moment,
no matter what they no matter what they did, no
matter what they said.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Just put me in a situation. Just hand me the cards,
give me the hand, and I'm gonna play it.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
And he did that just just exactly how we should
deny the hand he was dealt.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
He played the hand very well, and.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
It's only gonna get better from here. It doesn't go backwards.
You don't, you don't digress. I'm excited, and this is
coming from a Bengal fan, excited for the Browns to
finally maybe the answer at the quarterback position after trying
thirty five times over the years.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
You know, I man, listen, Man, I can go on
and on about this, but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
You got it.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I think the thing is the biggest thing and that
after they can have is the ability to believe that
he belonged, he or she belongs. I was a seventh
round draft pick. You'd do it was a five. There
was twelve rounds when I was a seventh. There are
seven rounds. He's a fifth. Yeah, but there is not
one point in time that I didn't feel I belonged
on that field because I saw a lot of these
guys at the bowl games. I saw these guys that

(21:31):
combined and I read about them, and I remember I
remember calling my brother at each West Shrine, Gray.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
I said, they do not better than me. They're not
better than me. I don't care what they say.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, I remember going to the combine and man, I
you know, you know what you think you're read? I say,
probably post six, four seven, I say, but they're not
better than me. They might be faster than me, but
they not better than me. I belong in the NFL.
And when I went to Denver, all those guys that
went before me, I'm like, I ain't no what I
remember asking myself, how in that hell did you get

(22:04):
drafted before me? Yeah, I said, but don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it. I said, it won't be long.
It won't be It was like the cab boy and girl.
She say, boy the cat got his tail called the
washing machine. You know what he said, O Joe, he
said it won't be long now, he said. She didn't
know what he was talking about. His tail wouldn't be

(22:24):
long anymore, or it won't be long for it all
be over, Yes, sir, yeah, man, I said, when we
put the paths on, ohoe, Yeah, the first I'll never
forget because you know, the rookies we went to camp
before the vets, so we would go like a couple
of days before the vets, so we would already be
practicing right at in Denver before we headed up to Greeley.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Right, I saw him.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
They was nervous, oh Joe, like a long tailed dog
with a porch full of rocking chairs. You know, somebody
lean back and go be able to take, you know,
talking about now, I thought.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
They were nervous. I said, oh yeah, that's all I
need to see.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Just the little fear, just the little fear in the
man's eyes, because that's that's.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
My greatest ability. Yes, another man's fear.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, I like it. I like it. And listen, I
know we've been talking about your door.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
But listen, remember I told remember I remember what I
told you about the Panthers, right, yes, remember I told
you about the Panthers. If there's a dark a chest
stay with me real quick. If there's a dark horse
team that I believe in this year that is going
to creep up and maybe make it run at the playoffs,
I said it would be the Panthers. They didn't look bad.

(23:33):
Brice Young didn't look back. Jayllen Kober went crazy tonight.
T Matt the rookie from Arizona, looked good tonight. I know,
executive like it got thrown out getting into a little tussle.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Listen, I love the passion. It's just preseason. That's fixable.
That's fixable.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
But again, look how the Panthers look early in the game.
For those I know everybody tuned in to watch your door.
But I'm telling you right now, and I said, at first,
someone that's that's not much of a Panther fan, didn't organization,
They owe me nothing. I'm telling you the dark horse
team for this season, the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Bryce Young in that receiving cord. I'm telling you, w.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
O, Joe, I ain't never been that hot in a
preseason game.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
No.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
The tunsle oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
They were going at it.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
I ain't really got no tuzzle in practice, bro, because
I'll tell you what Dad Reeves gonna say, you fighting,
I mean, we ain't working hard enough. Mike shanahanad say
the same thing. We ain't working hard enough.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
It ain't like it is now, Bro, them two hours
two and a half hour practice, Man, please with pats.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
And you had on paths in Oh, let me take
that back, O, Joe.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
You have on they call it see what they call shells,
would show the paths in shorts. It's not shells like
they call it now. Basically got those little little fitted
of spinal phone stuff on now was not shells. When
when I got in the nineties, shelves would shoulder paths
and shorts shorts. Yeah, and and you know we hit

(25:06):
that they were we hit back then.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Nine on seven was live five.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Team team was a solid thud up. He wasn't no
touch the guy on his two hands oh no, you
You put shoulders on him, you put paths on him.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
You bet you better come to you better come to
balance and be ready.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I remember Dennis Smith, we call him Kahuna and atwater man,
they come down in that box.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Boy. We had thumpers back then. Yeah, man, please.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
At Atwater coming downhill now.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
And Atwater wasn't the thumper like then, Dennis Smith, Kahuna
was the thumper number forty nine.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Whoa whoa more than water?

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yes, les, yes, lord, oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I saw that Joe a at two o five, two ten,
I saw him sit Lineman, sit Linman on the ass
they pulling. He ain't never go low right, You could
not show that in their chest and set them down
at at two ten. Here go back here. If y'all
can find it, go back and check the tape. He
hit Roosevelt Potts. They both ran. He pots come through

(26:15):
the old He hit him.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
He was out cold. H Marrion Butts.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Hey, if you if you're a Charger fan, you know
who because back then, o Joe, they had a big, old,
big running back. They had big Marrion Butts, they had
Rod Bernstein. Now a big Joe Caravello, big Joe Cox.
I mean they are the tight ends were like the
three hundred pounds offensive live mammoth offensive line.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, cohuna run through them.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Go back and look at that play with Dennis Smith
hit uh, he hit Marrion buts and he hit Roosevelt Potts.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, you know you know who else was the Thumber two?
Remember remember Donovan Darius.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah yeah, I played against ddble d at at Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
But that was back in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
You had Chuck Cecil, you had Mark Mark Carrier from Chicago. Boy,
back then, it wasn't no nothing defenseless about that. They said,
you got him and the shoulder pass. What the hell
you thought was gonna happen? You come across the middle?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Oh yeah, you're gonna get that work. What you're gonna
get that work?

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Rodney Harrison, Oh.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Rock.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Every time Hey, I say bro, he say Shaw, just
stay off my knees, I say, got you. But boy,
we tried, Boy, we definitely tried to hit each other.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
In the mouth.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, Hey, that's a hard playing joker.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
The Lions Falcons game was suspended after safety Mark Morris
Maurice Maurice Norris suffered a serious injury. In the fourth quarter,
Norris's head appeared to snap back after hitting the leg
of Falcons running back Nathan Carter doing a tackle attempt.
He stayed down after the play was over and ended
up leaving the fielding an ambulance.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Especially the preseason, it seemed to be doing more of
that now, O Joe, it's hard.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
At College, Ojoe, we moved a power if somebody got hurt,
move it up five yards. They am I lying. Even
in the pros. You know, hey, it don't matter what happened,
teller leave, neck injury, head injury.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
They moved that bag up five yards.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
They let the training staff deal with that, and we
continued on with practice, College and the Pros. I ain't
tell you what somebody told you. I'm telling you what
I know.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I've seen.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
It seem like we've got the little boys a little
more empathetic and times have changed.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
They're like, man, that's that's a little callous. Don't you think?
You know?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Man, you know, serious injury. But uh, I hope, I
hope the young fella is okay.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
I saw this, prays for him, prayers up for him.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Old I'm trying to find uh, that game right quick.
I'm trying to get it. I'm trying to get it
to pop up the game. It's you see right here
there it is right there. It's finally popped up.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
God, no, it's.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
No. Hey what that you know you'd be watching in
I definitely can't find it, so baby, maybe you can't.
Oh there it is right that down it's the Lions file.
Because I'm looking, I'm looking all over it. Uh but

(29:50):
uh yeah, hopefully young fella. Thoughts and prayers go out
to him and his family. You know, officially the family
is watching. You know it's preseason game or shoe and
you know they're watching to see their their brother, their cousin,
their friend son go out there and and and and
to see this happens. Obviously, everybody's on Piers a needle,
So praying that everything is okay and he has uh

(30:14):
do we know what what if he has use of
his extremities. But I thought some prayers go out to
the Norris family. Hopefully everything works out okay and he'll
be back.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Real real soon.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Tom Brady statue was unveiled at Gillette Stadium. Unfortunately, oh Joe,
he can't get one unveiled on a Sunday because he's
busy on Sundays with that, So they had to do
it in the preseason. Let's take a listen to what
Tom had to say.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
But in the end, this statue isn't just for Pats fans.
It'll also give all the Jets fans something to throw
their beers at as they leave the stadium every year,
probably in the second quarter, maybe the.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Third that Hey, you know what I met? I met,
I mean my last Pro Bowl. I met Tom Brady,
met his family, met all his sisters.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
He was great.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
He's always been great to me every time he seen me.
He has a Memorabilli your museum.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
In the Fountain Blue.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Got an invitation when I went to it, got an
opportunity to talk to him great, offered him some insight
on things, so forth and so on, and he said, I
really appreciate that. Said that means that means a lot,
because you're very good at what you do. So had
an opportunity to talk to him. But if anybody deserves
the state a statue, the only thing I met about

(31:45):
twelve feet tall. It needs to be twenty feet tall.
It need to be like the Empire. It need to
be like the Statue of Liberty.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Yeah, listen, the greatest when we talked about the greatest quarterback.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Of all time, Accolade Man, some of the games he's played.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Listen that New England Atlanta game, That game alone, that
twenty through three comeback a loty eight three deserves a trophy,
a statue by itself.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Uncle, you could play a video game. You can play
Madden and you could let somebody score twenty eight points
and you have three. The chance of you coming back
on the video game is slim to none. If you're
playing somebody as good, let alone to do it. And
god damn real life. Do you know how many things
have to go right for you?

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Be able to come back in an NFL game of
that game, of that magnitude down twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
To three, what are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Let me be talking about it. I'll be talking about
it forever.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, you know the Bills came back, and you know
the Bills came back and beat Houston. They were down
what thirty? What would they down thirty? They was down
thirty two to three, ended up winning. You remember, uh,
Minnesota came back and beat the Colts. They was down
what thirty three to nothing, thirty some odd score. But
the Super Bowl, that's that's the difference. And the guy

(33:13):
that you're going against is the league MVP.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Hey, I got a question. Yes, I want a statue. Well,
you better go to what's your high school?

Speaker 3 (33:28):
At Miami BC High High time?

Speaker 1 (33:30):
You better you better go in there and tell him
you go go half on one.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, I want mine. I want
mine at at pay Court Stadium. This is what I'm
gonna do. The Browns don't have to do it. I'm
gonna pay for and I'm gonna just put it out
there myself.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
No statues.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I mean Lamar jacksonna have one next to Ray Lewis
and Baltimore Patrick mahone should have one. Peyton Manning has one,
uh and Andy tom Brady goes without saying, I mean something,
you know, like you know with Kobe and Shock and
kreebe like the Lakers they got they got the Okay.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Come on, something gotta be something. You're just like, hold on.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Well, Bengals eighty five.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
When you see the.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Number eighty five, what's the first thing you think of?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
You know what I need a statue.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
If you had, if you'd have had Jerry's numbers, read
these numbers, t O's numbers.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
You know what how to say? You know what I don't.
I don't have their numbers. You know, put the hand
out with the hand I was there. I played that
motherfucker hand very.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Well, and I need I'm a matter of fact, I'm
gonna put this in. I'm gonna go to home depot.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I mean, think about the guys that got statues.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
O Joe, Yeah, Sugar, two time Defensive Player of the Year.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I think he went the twelve Pro Bowls.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Uh, he's probably eight eight, nine time All Pro, probably
seven time first Team All Pro, a Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
We talk about Peyton Manning.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Like like when we're like at the Hall of Fame. Yeah,
you have somebody as what they call a presenter. Now
you'll go up there and plead your case.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oho.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
So let's just say I'm a ride in Cincinnati. I
go up in the room and I plead Ocho's case.
Ocho is a this many time pro bowler. He led
the league in this, he did this, he had this
many games. Yeah, Peyton Manning, Peyton Manning, and you sit
back down, tom Brady, And you said, I offer no explanation,
Peyton Manning.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, Tom Brady, what am I explaining?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
What about? What? What? What do I say? Ocho? Hold on?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on?

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Right? So this is what you do, right?

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Yeah? You look at circumstances. Yes, what it was like
before I got them?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Right?

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Thirty second worst team in the league?

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I think ya twenty eight when you were there.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Thirty second? Hold on, won't stay with me?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
With me?

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Hold on, stay with me?

Speaker 4 (36:04):
I get there right, yes, and I gazed the city
l put us back in the national spotlight.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Hear me? I can saill, I can still out the stadium.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Was it because you're winning? Or was it because you're antics?

Speaker 3 (36:23):
No, it's called entertainment, and that's.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
What I'm hold on.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
What is football entertainment? But I'm just saying, was it
because you guys were winning? Or was because you were entertaining?

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Did you?

Speaker 3 (36:37):
What's what's what's more difficult to do?

Speaker 4 (36:40):
To be losing and still put butts in the seat
because who wants to come watch that?

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Y'all ain't got nothing else to do? Shouldn't be Hey,
what y'all gonna do, go across the river, go to Louisville,
the Conduction Derby going on that time of the year.
I'm telling you, anybody what Skyline Chili Jordan say, they
that good?

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Anyway, I never had Scotlane Chili.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
I ate at waffle House and Cummington and I had
McDonald's was right across the street from it. But but
needless to say, I'm forna put it. I'm gonna put
my own statue, and I'm just they're gonna have to
take it down.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Well, good luck with that. Let me know how that
worked out for you. But I was I was looking
at Brady's statue and all the accolades that it had
on it, all the Super the Roman numers for the
Super Bowl taking, the Super Bowl MVPs and the regular
season MVPs and the five thousand yards passing season and
all this and all that. When you look at it,

(37:31):
you just like, I mean, the man played when he
played twenty three seasons. If you chop his seasons up
seven seven seven, he's a at no worse, the second
greatest quarterback ever if you take if you just take
his first seven seasons, Okay, oh Joe, take his middle

(37:51):
seven seasons. Okay, Oh Joe, take his last seven seasons,
you'd be hard to say that he is not top two,
top three even with that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Absolutely. You know what that reminds me up to with
that reference to give people contexts. Take Kobe when he
was twenty four, and take Kobe when he when he
was number eight.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
It's the same thing.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yes, it's almost identical, even when he revented itself and
changed his number.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yes, so more jerseys.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, it's got like when Lebron went to Miami and
got six.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, remember he was twenty three in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
He goes, goes to Miami, he's six, goes back to
my goes back to Cleveland, he's twenty three. He goes
to l A, he's twenty three. Then he gets didn't
he get six again? Oh? He always said, oh what
you call? Said he was gonna he moved, he changed numbers.
Anthony Davis, h Lebron was never six in LA was he?

(38:52):
I think he was?

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:57):
But uh man, but Tom, congratulations. If anybody is deserving
the statue, and there have been some some people in
history that was very deserving, but when we're talking about
sports man, I wouldn't even I wouldn't even be mad
at they retired number twelve across the league.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Hold on, will let's retire eighty five? Two? No? No, damn.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Mad?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Oh Joe, you can't just retire the number mad like
I said. And you know what, on Joe, I might
have a you might have a compelling case if you
had Jerry's NUMBERSO.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
No, I have a compelling case without Jerry's numbers.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
No, you don't to retire eighty five across the league.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Hey listen, hey ask the chat right now. When you
see the numb eighty five, what's the first thing that
comes to your mind? No matter what team it is
asking asked to put up a pole? You see the
number eighty five, what is the first thing that comes
to mind?

Speaker 3 (39:56):
What tripping?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Nick Bonikani, Hey, hey this is let me say something.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
See it's hard for the old folks to understand, right, Yeah,
I did for the game. What I did for the
game is so much bigger than numbers. Folks really don't
They don't even realize it.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
It's just just a statue for your word, for your
your words, spoken words speech.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Hey, I got another I got another spoken word. You
want to hear it?

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Without thirty two thousand people in the chat want to
hear it.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Okay, okay, here we go. Hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hello on, Hey, you froze dealer? Yeah, you're
not moving?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Or is that?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (40:46):
That?

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Ain't never wrong me? Oh talk to me.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I'm frozen.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Is that? Is that on your end? It ain't on
my end? I'm I'm away. I'm a way too.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
You can hear me, right, yes, okay, yeah, my wife,
I got all my bars.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
I mean, I met, I'm at a cigar bar. What
we need to hear thatsh chat?

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Y'all getting ready for this spoken word. I was on
the plane coming from New York today. I left New
York around two o'clock and I sat down and I
wrote something very special that I think I think y'all
would like.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Let me let me let me know you're ready. I'm
waiting your unfreeze.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Take say we're not ready yet.

Speaker 6 (41:47):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Hey, don't disappearod chat, y'all still there? Okay, Okay, the
chat can hear me?

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Okay, hey, chat, listen, listen, chat, Well, don't get situated,
so excuse me. You know I do spoken word? You
know I have I have many jobs. I have many hobbies,
many passions that I like and I love and oh.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Will we good? Okay?

Speaker 1 (42:28):
And chat?

Speaker 4 (42:28):
I do spoken word. A lot of people don't know
about that, but again I tell people all the time.
I was a drama major. I was the theater major.
And this is just a part of something that I've
always been passionate about. And I have something that I
wrote that I want y'all to hear tonight, and this
is this.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Is for the ladies.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Let me know you're ready, go on, I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Your smile.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Is like a sunrise mm hmm, chase to wait to night.
Sometimes I look at the clouds and your touch is
like a gentle breeze, a warm and soft light.

Speaker 6 (43:12):
My heart.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Forever yours. I love so true for you, my love,
it will always be true. For beneath the wings that
I have, You will always be the one.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
That I call on.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
If an amy moment you're feeling sad, just remember one thing,
My love is only for you. How about that?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Are you like that?

Speaker 3 (43:58):
I mean, I mean, it's it's it's it's not rins
Tate love Jones.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
But it's getting better.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Yeah, that was that it was getting better. Right like that.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, getting better. That was that was real.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
That was sentimental, like that came from the home.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
See right now, look at you see how you do
what they did say, how they got you.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
That's that's me.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
We got what's wrong with me? Well you got a
mindful of teeth?

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Now?

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Hey, I wrote I wrote that on the plane. I
wrote that on the plane coming back from New York,
you know, earlier, earlier today. And I'm just you know,
I'm getting better. I'm getting better. And at some point
I'm looking to write a book on all my poems,
and I think that would.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Be, you know, a New York bestseller. Okay, yeah, that's
that's definitely possible, Joe.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Matter of fact.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
This is this is we might really be on the
something because what we can have is is, you know
how we do spell spell Fellow Sinco. We can have
every so often a segment where I do spoken word
and give y'all some of my art. Okay, okay, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
We're working on it. You know, we're working on we
can come up with a segment of the spoken word
by right.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
I like that, Hey, Chad, I appreciate y'all. Uh and
enjoying that and that that that came from the heart.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
But uh, they haven't been many more deserving players in
the history of our game.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yes, sir, that deserved this as much as Brady. Yeah,
you know.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
We uh you addressed with Brady. But when you beat it,
you call him Tom.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Uh cause you know, I mean a lot of people
don't like for you. I mean when we teammates, we
call everybody by their last name. But everybody don't like me.
He called about the last name, especially if you don't
know him. Like that, you call somebody by their last name,
people feel like you really know me or you know them.
But Tom is uh uh, he's amazing. I mean he

(46:24):
doesn't like even like when I was on Undisputed, I
thought I was fair. Some people say I'm overly critical
of Tom. But you know, when Tom played well, I'll
give him his credit. When he plays bad, I say, okay,
he played bad, but he was always like, hey, I
gotta give you credit. You definitely call it like you
see it. But he's, like I said, some people you

(46:46):
just meet and they're like great, And I can see why.
I can see why his teammates like him. I really
can it a little bit that I've been around them, Joe,
I can see why they like him. I can see
why everybody likes him. Geno Smith the Max Crosby caught making.
I've seen gestures towards Seahawks fans and photos and videos
that are circulated on social media. A Seattle fan appeared

(47:06):
to make a gesture and say something towards Smith, who
played five seasons in Seattle, as Raiders waited outside their
tunnel to take the field, Smith responded to responded by
holding up both his middle fingers towards the fan before
running onto the field. Crosby made the same gesture. We're
I'm running on the field. Gonna probably cost him Roger.

(47:26):
You know, Roger not gonna be happy about this. That's
probably twenty five, which I think twenty five or fifty
preseason game.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
I've seen Jester just a middle finger. I say, maybe
twenty twenty. Listen, first offense, there's no need to go
crazy with the fine. Just just send a message. Listen,
this is something that we're not going to allow. We
know the fans can be routing. You're returning back where
you played. They're gonna say some nasty things. To you
for yourself be able to control your emotions. It got

(47:57):
the best of you in that situation. So we're gonna
here's a slap on the wrist. We're gonna take twenty
from you. Let's let's make sure that happen again. I
like the fact that Max Crosby stuck up for his teammate.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
I mean he might be Look if you on my team,
you might be elfed up. You messed up to us.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
You ain't messed up to you ain't elfed up to them, right,
So nah, we're not finna get down like that. Will
let you let you say nothing slick about our teammate, right,
I like it, And you know what, Yo, Hell, we
might not like him just as much as you don't.
But guess what, in front of company, Yeah, in front

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of company, that's a whole different ball game. Yeah, I
agree with you. I think it's probably gonna be twenty
five thousand. You know, hey, if it happens again, blah
blah blah. So for the song, because that's not you know, Roger,
you know they're the wording of it. That's not you know,
that's not what we want to portray or project to
our fans. Wanted to say that we appreciate our fan
and we do. But when you start flipping the fans off,

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I mean flip flipping the players off, everybody ain gonna
everybody gonna ain't gonna be jobs.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Ain't gonna be cool with that.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Oh Joe, listen, everybody's not gonna like you too, especially
when you played for a team. But a very long
time you return back to that sense, and you know
how you know how fans.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Are They traded him?

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Why you mad at him?

Speaker 4 (49:25):
That's not the way they think. That's not the way
they think. They always say, oh, you're disloyal. Their loyalty
lies with that team. So when you come back and
you're on another team, win another jersey, Oh you know,
they're gonna go crazy. They're going to go crazy. Yeah,
they're gonna go crazy. But that's neither here nor they're

(49:47):
They're gonna be all right.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah, ceedee.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Lamb was asked which Cowboys dB has given him hell
in training camp. His response, honestly, none of them. They
haven't given me hell. But I will say it's great
competing with these guys. That's what he should say. I mean,
when he got over there ain't no ain't no pass
or hands, ain't no times, ain't no reverses, ain't knowing
Nils Williams, ain't nothing, ain't no great. I mean, hey,

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Diggs was on that trajectory, but injuries kind of robbed
him of some of that what he possessed. So you know,
but but he was really like he's like he was
a receiver coming out of high school. So he has
great hands, he has great inticipatory skills. So the best
thing to do for you is double move him because
he look at a Now he gonna get you. He

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gonna win some. You gonna win some, but you just
make sure you know when you win, because he gonna
take a chance. Now he gonna take a chance. And
so I think the injury the knee, I think he
had enough what he have. I think he had another
thinking towards a cl one year, and then he had
another injury that this past season, and so I think
it's a situation just kind of robbed him of some
of his ability.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
But expect CD win expected. When we talk about the
Cowboys too, I think when Trayvon Diggs went.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Out, is it Darron Bland. I'm not sure if I'm
saying his right. Chat y'all, let me know if I'm
saying this right right. Darron Bland when he came in,
he made exceptionally well. Yes, he made exceptionally well interceptions
and he was making play after play after play. Yeah,
I'm not sure if he's back. I think he might be.

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He might be injured as well. And if there was
any type of competition that would probably give Ceedee Lamb
troubles if it would probably be Brother Lamb based on
his skill set now how good he is, and he's
familiar with Ceedee Lamb's game. But other than that, I
don't see anything. I don't see anybody in camp that
would give CD any issues.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah, especially if he's in the slot. He got too many.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
I mean it's hard, man, Yeah, Because the thing is
like when you're in the slot, Oh Joe, I'm trying
to bump you into people, I'm trying to push you
into such and such, and he's trying to do the
exact same thing. But when there's nobody there over, just
me and you and he in the slot, where this
man can.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Go every time. Yes, listen, Cee, Thee Lamb is very, very,
very very he is savvy, very savvy in the mismatches.
Once he goes in that slot, it's so.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Much, so much. He can run Zoro, he can run,
he can run the whip.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
He run a shallow I mean he Hey, he can
run the basic cross, he can run seven, he can
run sale, he can run an out.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
You run a post, he run a far across.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
He can't defend all that.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Yeah, it's too much.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
And plus, ain't nobody rushing the quarterback?

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:40):
But uh look CD is you know I like you response.
I ain't got no problem with that. Hell, ain't nobody
really giving me a Hell, I just like to compete.
You got listen, you gotta talk like that too. You
gotta talk like that.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
So you know, we talk.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
We talked about the best fire receivers in the game.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
See, lamb name is always in the conversation. At some
point point he.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
He might not be one of two, but in that three,
four and five his name comes up. So when we
ask you about somebody giving you trouble in camp, or
who's giving you the most, it shouldn't be nobody.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
If I pay you thirty four billion dollars, nobody been
to give you. No, you may not have no problem
with nothing with nothing unless you're on the team with
Sir Tan or Stingley or something Ramsey or somebody like that.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Other than that.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Woh no, yeah, mm hmmm mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Aaron Rodgers was asked by CBS Sports to create the
perfect receiver based on speed, size, hands, high point ability
in football IQ. Rogers selected Randy Moss high point ability,
Julio Jones for speed. He had two of his former
teammates for the mix, Devonte Adams for football IQ and
Jordan Nelson her hands, and then he selected DK for size.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
What did he get right? What did he get wrong? Joe?

Speaker 1 (54:02):
I think I like that high portability. He got Randy Balls,
Absolutely he got Julio. Did he got football? I Q?
Davante Jordan for hands, d K for size.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Okay, Well, well, obviously that there's a there's a there's
a very important aspect and that that's missing, and that
would be route running.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I guess they didn't give him back. Yeah, and that that.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Speed, size, hands, high point ability football like you Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Well we're gonna we're gonna add we're gonna addl work
and route running, which is very very vital important when
it comes to you know, all that stuff you just
name is great, but if you ain't able to create,
no goddamn separation. Yeah, but we're just gonna throw my
name in the pot because Aaron Rodgers would have probably
said me anyway when it came to that boom. Yeah,
we're definitely gonna say me.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Still, to this day, I still have the the greatest
feet ever known, the man to ever touch grass, the greatest.
Listen my feet. Matter of fact, this is what's so funny.
This is what's so funny. Right everywhere everyone else in
the NFL. In the history of the NFL, all receivers
got paid based on their ability to play the position

(55:19):
and catch the ball.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
I'm the only receiver in the history of the game.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
On my contract we are paying you meansa dollars simply
because of your feet. It's on a contract I got
shot you. I got a copy of it at the house.
They paid me meansa dollars simply for my feet, which
is unbelievable. I might I was the first and the
last in the history of the game.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
I can prove it to you.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
I promise you.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
I tell you, no lie, I'm gonna put my three
fingers up like like, oh like forty forty five and
forty seven.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Dude, I mean theoretically, I mean you want to say side,
you could say I mean Randy.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
I mean Randy could be for speed too, Tyreek for speed. Whulu.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I got a question, please here.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
You remember when Randy caught that hitch route against the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
On Christmas, well that Thanksgiving that might have been Thanksgiving? Yeah,
I remember.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
The angle and he outran the it's not pursue. What's
the word. What's the word? Uh not pursue he out
Oh my god, that's not supposed to happen. No, that's
not it's not supposed to happen.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
I mean it took it.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
I mean, look, if you let him untwined, now because
here a long strider, you let him unflying on you.
It's a because you take in seven steps is two
of his Yeah? Oh he he came in and and
you look, seventeen touchdowns as a rookie. I don't know

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if we're gonna see that any time soon were different.
He was, he was he in the stuff man. They
called it. Right before the half this Joe called a pass.
We had him trapped in the middle of field. He
throw it back over his head. The more Williams and
running and hey, hey I remember that, say man, what
is this?

Speaker 2 (57:16):
And boy didn't let that comet.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Boy?

Speaker 2 (57:21):
They started going crazy.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
H man.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Yeah, I said, it ain't looking good for the whole.
It ain't looking good for the business that was us.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
But I like, I mean high point of Billy Randy
because Reddy had tremendous leaping ability football IQ. You like
doctor Devonte Jordy like Jeordie's hands, uh DK, I mean
it's hard to argust six for.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Two thirty huge and can run.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, so I like his list.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Nick Chubbs says he belongs in the Derrick Henry category.
Entering age thirty season, Chubb said he believes he can
join Henry in remaining a top running back despite general
expectation of age related decline past thirty. Henry is different.
You're not going to put him in that category. He
showed it's not true, and I think that applies to me.

(58:18):
I'm in a category with them. I'm different. I feel
good as i've been o JO, what is your expectations
for Chubb with the Texans.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
I think it's gonna be fine.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
I think we viewed Chubb a little bit differently now
because of the injuries. We should listen, but Chubb should
be in the conversation exactly with Dereck Henry, and I
think he would be if it wasn't for the ACL injury.
He would be based on the trajectory in which he
was on very good, very circul back. He yes, head

(58:54):
off the gold host, very very difficult to tackle. The
first man ain't ever bringing him down.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Ever.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
He was exactly like Derrick Henry in a sense, different
style of back in the sense.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
You know. But still, yeah, maybe I would agree with
you had he not had those injuries to the sel
In College he tore. I think he this is the
second time he's touring in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
But but listen, can he do what Adrian Peterson did?
We're going to find out. We're going to find out.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Well, last year was his Adrian Peterson season when he
came back. Remember he came back? Yeah, now, no, look,
people need to stop that because what AP did. Everybody think?
You see what they bro Apa wasn't It isn't normal.
He wasn't normal. You're not supposed to tell your ACL
a December and come back and been the MVP the

(59:48):
following year, Rush for twenty ninety seven his last running
back to He's the last nine quarterback to win the MVP.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
That's crazy. I was twenty twelve.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
And unless somebody does have a type that type season
again and I waited it, quarterback just put up too
many numbers. O yo.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Yeah, I mean listen, a matter of fact, even even
with the game the way it is now is the
past heavy league, how long before you think we see
Adrian Peterson type back again?

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Anyway, It's gonna be a very long time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Yeah, because Adrian Peterson was a was a collision back,
and and most backs are being a sat quad don't
run the collision.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Derrick Henriett is a collision back.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Yeah, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
But to be able to think about it, O Joe,
to be able to collide that long in the pack
of wreck of those yards.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
You look at the guys. Look at Earl Campbell with
a collision back he had seven years. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
But also you you've vi you you've viewed Adrian Peterson
has a collision back, but he's also a back back
and shaking and take it to the hit the head.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Yeah, he could but he ran the contact. He wasn't listen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Adrian Peters were looking to run you over and then
and then when you brace yourself to get run over down,
he's gonna shake your ass up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Yeah, it's a funny thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
He Agian Peters is the type of back that will
instill fearying you in the game. And then matter of fact,
remember when ray Lewis saw ray Lewis and that defense
saw Agan Peters for the first time. Yeah, and it
was the first running back to have over one hundred
yards against that defense.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
There was some collisions in that game.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Now, oh yeah, it's uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Yeah, but I he says he belongs in that category,
and maybe people would be willing to put him in
that category. But it's hard when you're coming off for
three a c ls before the age of thirty three
or two. They sailed in college.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Yeah, he toured in college, but he toured with the Browns.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
That's only two. How many times a chubb Terry's knee
just two?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Just too so once in college and once in Yeah, okay,
my mistake, Thanks for the correction.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
But this this last thing was severe. Yeah. He chord
a c P c L M C L.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
As she's looking for that. Yeah, yeah, he had that
was he had a severe I mean it was almost
like Robert Edwards. Remember Robert Edwards.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Oh yeah, when do you playing on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
That is? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Yeah, Napoleon Macallum he had a very serious injury like
that too. I think it was a Monday night game
when Napoleon Macallum did what he did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
As a matter of fact, that might have been.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
He didn't tears a c l okay. But if you
tell you everything else, buddy's a c l okay, the
same knee, a different need. Oh it's gonna be hard
for that need not to be arthritic. Yeah, he's gonna
be bone on bone. Good boy, a chub over there
in Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Huh uh. No he went to Texans.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Well, yeah, I'm thinking of the tea the T word Texans.
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
Yeah, with him and him and mixing that said, Hey, listen,
that's a nice little combo too. Yeah, that's a nice
little one to combo. But it kind of almost, Yes,
the old oilers went to Tennessee. Yeah, but I don't
think that's what you meant.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Yeah, No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
I mean I meant to say I just heard the
T word. But listen, they got they got two of
the same back.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Yeah, I guess they want to. They they want to
you know, hey, get the lead and run there. I
don't want to have to throw it. The Dolphins had
a disappointing joint practice with the Bears today. Tour three interception,
Alexander Madison, two fumbles, and Mike McDaniels had to break

(01:04:13):
up a fight.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Yay, Oh y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yeah, what'd you thinking about your three interceptions, two fumbles
and you fighting?

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Yeah, don't. I don't listen.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
I don't take much from that. Obviously, that's what what
practice is for. In practice, you're gonna have mistakes, You're
gonna have turnovers. That's what the mistakes need to be made.
But let's see what happens tomorrow. If I'm not mistaken,
they play tomorrow, right, I think so, Yeah, let's see.
Let's see what they look like in the game when
the lights you're on. Like practice is one thing, it's

(01:04:48):
the same. There's really no pressure defensively. All you gotta
do is read and react.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
There's no there's no no penalty, you know, for for
for touchdowns, no penalty.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
You I think it's I take it with a grain
of salt in the sense and like, okay, listen, this
is what we need to work on.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
We can't be doing this. We can't be doing that.
I know the stat line. It looks bad. The fighting.
It's preseason. It's practice. You know, joint practice. Name one
joint practice. But they don't fight. We talked about and you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Said that we played that bad.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Oh we're practicing after that practice. Go ahead, what's out
They're practicing after that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Ain't no way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
John going to throw three interception, TDJ flumming the ball
two times and we and we fight.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Now you think you going to the locker room room? Please,
I don't know where they do that at. I know
one thing.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
If you look that bad and practicing the joint practice,
if you look that bad with the stat line like that, yeah,
when you get out there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
In the first preseason game, because I know that, I
know the ones are gonna play.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Mike McDaniels has to allow the ones to play because
if you look like that, then you have to have
them play to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Make sure they get whatever kings or whatever going on.
Whatever you need to get right and get fixed. You
caught it right now. I doubt it looks like that
in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
I look, I don't know how anybody else did it,
but I just know, Oh, you're not finna make no
mistake and then talk about okay, yeah we good know,
Hell we not Mike, Hey, Mike, be down there, run
it again now we got it? Might No, hell we don't.
You not finna end on no bad play. You're not
going to end on no mistake. Have a pick, have

(01:06:33):
a fumble and a drop five plays, six plays into
a ten play period, and see what you started over.
Mike said, I don't know what y'all. I don't know
what y'all did last night, but you're not gonna come
out here and do it today. Oh no, that And

(01:06:53):
you know you take stuff for granted, Oh Joe, you're
like God, then come home right, But you as you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Get an appreciation for it, and you understand.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Why why you did certain things and the benefits of
it from him doing it that way, because at the time,
like man, bro, we ain't got but two three more
players left, and we're gonna start the whole period back over. No,
just just start that, just running that play again, man,
that man, start the whole.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Period over like it wasn't nothing right without a can
of world.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
He's like, uh, y'all, y'all got other jobs. I mean,
I mean, what's going on because I mean you you're like,
you're trying to get out of here. You got somewhere
to go. Yeah, this is your job.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. So we started to tell you
what we started finding.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
You drop a past, five dollars, drop it on Friday,
it's ten dollars, jump off side, five dollars, ten dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Oh interception. Oh yeah, we've been to do this, man,
come on that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Yeah, yeah, we we had We had a little we
had a little part too in Cincinnati, drop drops, miss blocks,
you know, put a left and at the end of
the year. At the end of the year, I forgot,
I forgot how it went. But but somebody, somebody, somebody
got that money. Somebody got I forgot forgot who it was.
But listen, you have practices like that. Obviously there's an
advantage for the defense anyway, because all they do is

(01:08:24):
reading and reacting. They are reading and reacting, and.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
I think what camp has been about almost two weeks now, yeah,
almost two weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
The defense is going to be so far ahead of
the offense, especially the joint practice. So I take that
with you know, with a grain of salt. Okay, boom,
we have things to fix. But on game day it's
completely different. It's gonna be completely different.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
I don't. Look, I had a lot of joint practices.
I don't think we ever had a date.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I can't never remember three on a session and two fumbles. Yeah,
because all I know is that A we talked. He
did y'all win to date? I don't nobody if we
but I did. I cooked. I cooked all of them,
all of them, the whole Dolphins secondary. I cooked them,
the whole Cardinal Secondary. I cooked them, the whole Carolina Secondary.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
I cooked them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Oh I'm oh, yeah for sure, Cause you know what's
the thing. You know, you're nothing to come you know
they doing the same thing. And that's what I wanted
to say earlier. Joe Man, you cool. I mean a
joint practice, you on one knee next to Carolina or
you on one d next to the guys. So it
ain't like a game come game. You on your sideline,
they're on their sideline. Look, I understand it's a different team,

(01:09:37):
but the but the feel of it is different. Got
you talking, he carried on and so forth and so on.
But it's not the same now you start talking. It
turned turned too, It turned real quick. It turned real quick. Absolutely, Oh,
don't knock down, no pass on one of worry about

(01:10:00):
it now. Now eighty four got to get up off
of me. Now you got to come see me. Woo woo,
whooa okay, now hey, let's restore some order. Hey hey,
all that jumping around, all this, did that evening to happen?

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
He yo, they see.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
I don't know when it came and got it strapped bad?

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Please, Hey, hey.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Everything gotta catch I'll spike it on you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Hey, them joint practices are so fun though, man,