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August 26, 2025 48 mins

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Terry McLaurin ending his holdout with a massive 3-year, $96M deal to stay with the Commanders, and debate if Washington is a real Super Bowl contender. Kenny Pickett gets traded from the Browns to the Las Vegas Raiders. Plus, Dak Prescott makes a bold prediction for the Cowboys offense after a ‘vanilla’ preseason & much more!

02:39 - Browns trading Kenny Pickett to the Raiders
20:55 - Terry McLaurin, Commanders Agree to 3-Year, $96M Contract After Hold-In
41:27 - Bengals' Trey Hendrickson agrees to revised contract with $14M raise

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Company eighty four with eighty four being spelled out. That
link is also penned in the chat. The Cleveland Browns
Oshoe are trading Kenny Pickett to the Raiders in exchange
for a twenty twenty six fifth round pick, taking twentieth
overall by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the twenty twenty two draft.
Pickett has now been traded three times in his career.

(02:53):
That leaves the Browns with two rookies, Dylan Gabriel and
Shaw George Sanders behind starter Joe Flacco. Stefanski has uh
has not named Flacco's backup. The Raiders needed to back
up the Geno Smith after aiding O'Connell. He broke his
wrist and he's gonna be out six to eight weeks,
so they needed to backup.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Uh uh.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
The Browns like, you know what, we gall what y'all
what y'all try to do? What y'all try to do something?
Y'all try to do something. Cause right now at one
o'clock and east the time four o'clock, everything needs to
be taken care of. So they got this done. I
like this movie, oh y'all. I told him I didn't
see a scenario with Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett was

(03:35):
on this on this two veteran cords.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I didn't see that.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
I didn't, So Tim, what you think about the movie?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Surprised?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
No, I'm not surprised at all.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Obviously, Kenny Pickett is a very, very serviceful quarterback. He
showed glimpses of being able to lead a team. Maybe
not quarterback number one, but we saw him in Pittsburgh,
we saw him in Philly when he got his opportunity
to play there, and obviously due to injuries and so circumstance,
we weren't able to see much of them in Cleveland,
But if we've seen what he could do in two
other spots outside of outside of Las Vegas, where he's

(04:09):
going to be now, and obviously learning and sitting behind
Geno Smith is a great, great, great quarterback, quarterback number
one to sit behind and learn that offense from.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
And if anything.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Goes wrong, where Gino Smith goes down, Kenny Pickett is
a grace service quarterback that can go in and lead
a team to a couple of wins.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Obviously they have a Mari Cooper.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Jakobe Myers is upset right now, obviously wanting an extension,
and I think because of Jacoby h requesting a trade,
they obviously reached out to Marik Cooper and Mark Cooper
has some other choices of teams he could have went to,
but he chose to go back to the Raiders for
obvious reasons. He gonna get that ball. He gonna get
that ball, and I mean that's what it is. I

(04:51):
think it's a good.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Thing, good pick up for Pete Carroll and uh, he's
gonna be all right, He's gonna be all right over
there in Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, I like the booth for both side reports jo
that Kenny Pikett, they really the Browns really like him Nicket,
and they were hoping he would be the starter. But
I didn't see a scenario where you if you're keeping
four quarterbacks, you're not keeping two veterans and two rookies.
It just didn't It didn't make a whole lot of
sense to me, not at all, because the backup, he's
not going to be your future. He's not your he's

(05:19):
not your future, your future of the rookies. So if
he got if he's your backup, now you're you're taking
reference them.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Hey, And I hate when they say stuff like that too.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
On the way you just started that that that that
sentence what they wanted Kenny Pigtt to be the starter. Obviously,
Kenny Pickett was the type of quarterback that was to
be a starter in the future for the Cleveland Browns.
He would have been that Yeah, I mean, no, no
disrespect to him, no disrespect to him. He would have
been that.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
There.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
You think about the makeup in the DNA of the
Cleveland Browns, they are not heavily offensive skilled in a
sentence where you can have a quarterback that needs more
talent around him to succeed, like Kenny Pickett. Would you know,
I think jo Joe Flacco is suited. Okay, I don't
have that much talent around me offensively because the identity

(06:05):
for the Cleveland Browns is their defense. No matter what,
stay in the chat trying to hate the Cleveland brown defense,
it's very good. No matter what you say, you can
say what you want to say, so they will with
the right choice in Joe Flacco. They got Jerry Judy
from Joeku and they're gonna have They're gonna have to
eat Sedgi tilman.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
They're gonna have to eat. They're gonna to eat.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, they're gonna have to They're gonna have to carry
a lot of do a lot of the lot. And
the thing is is that like Joe Flacco at forty
years of age, in your eighteen what are your expectations?

Speaker 2 (06:39):
What are your expectations?

Speaker 1 (06:42):
I mean, if you really go back and look at it,
Joe Flacco really has hasn't ever really been good in
the regular season. He's made a name for himself in
the postseason. Yes, beating a man Andrew Louck beating a
Tom Brady, beating a Peyton Manning.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's where he beat talking. He beat tom Brady twice
in the.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Post say something too, uncle, please real quick, he beat
Andrew Luck, he beat Tom Brady. Please let the chat
know and understand the teams and the talent that was
surrounding him.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
He did.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Let's remember you remember what that defense looked like, unless
you remember what the weapons he had on offense looked like.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Now, it wasn't. It wasn't.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Obviously it's a team game. But we can't just put
this all on Flacko.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
But he was I mean, I mean he was. I
mean he looked like Joe Montowna come play with playoffs
because he never he never showed what he's shown in
the playoffs. He's never shown that in the regular season
for any length of times. Yes, he's had good games.
He's a quarterback. I mean, you don't court to be
a quarterback for a decade plus a starting quarterback for
decade plus, oh Joe, and not put up good numbers.

(07:45):
So he's put up good numbers, but nothing that would say,
oh my god, there's a reason why Ozzie traded back
into the first round that's like select Lamar Jackson. So
with that being said, he beat Andrew. Look, he went
to Denver, beat Pekon Manning. He went to New England
and beat Tom Brady. He did that, and then he

(08:06):
went on the road and beat the San Francisco team
when Colin Nick was at his ampex without out standing defense,
when they had Nabarro Bowman, when they had pack of Willers,
when they had Smith, when they had those great that
great team, Frank Gore.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Running the ball of mammoth offensive line. He did that.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I'll give him credit for that, But like I said,
it's in the postseason that he's made a name, really
cut his teeth and made a name for himself because
there's really been no consistency in the regular season. He
showed you flashes like damn, why can't we get this
more more, more, more this Joe Flacco than.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
When are you gonna get a Browns? He gonna give
you a five six game run of wins. You gonna
be like, holy man. He did it. He did it
two years ago. Sean went down. Boy, they went on
a hell of a run with Flacko Bro.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Jerry Judy was that Judy fact, It was somebody, somebody
received It was going crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Man. It might have been Coop.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
It was going crazy man. Yeah, it was the damn
show was Coop.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
And and see and that's the thing. You see what happened.
He came in, there was no expectations. They won some games,
and then we started having expectations for him, and then
what happened.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
The bottom fell out?

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Interceptions, turnover, Yes, yes, yes, so this I like this
move for the Browns. Now this gift Dylan Gabriel. Look,
they talked about where they have a name to back up.
We know who the backup is gonna be. Yeah, I
won't need a name. We already know who the backup
is going to be.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Uh uh. And and Dylan gaber is going to be
the backup.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Is your door when you get your reps and because
you're gonna probably be well, Dylan to be running some
of the practice, some of the the opposing team's quarterback also,
but excuse me, the scout team offense. That's when your opportunity,
that's when you show what you can do. That's the
way you don't go through the oceans. You take it serious. Hey,

(10:02):
they tell you where to go to the ball, you
go through your Hey, you go through your progressions, ay
and get the ball where it needs to go. But
in the meantime, Hey, you get enough that playbook, and
when your opportunity to presents itself, you take full advantage.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
A good thing and the funny thing, the good thing
for Stuart as well as Dylan Gabor as well, is
when you take the scout team reps. Hey, you're going
against the number one defense, going against number one defense,
so it's it's mental reps plus physical reps. But it's
against the best players, similar to what you can see
on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
So it's just not no, it ain't gonna be no
walk in the park. Now, ain't gonna be no walk
in the park.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
And I tell you well, I relied that day. I
remember I met. I remember that. Think that was thirty
five years I was rookie back at nineteen ninety, so
that's thirty five, thirty six years ago.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I remember it. I would lighten them up on Jim.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, this my hey, this right right right right.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, that is my Sunday. I'm not gonna
get a whole lot of reps on offense. I'm gonna
be on Special Teams. This is my this is my Sunday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
I'm cooking, man, take it ay, take it easy, my
ass well, I'll try to keep it you ay. After
the coach done told me that, hey, we still cut

(11:15):
around here. Now, I just want y'all to know that
he well, it's jemper. I think i'd have made the
squad coach, and I'm not. Oh no, oh no, I
can't now how that's gonna look. Oh, Joe, I have
made the team. I don't call home, Libby. I made it, Spank,
I made it, Mama, I made it. Call home, but
I made it. And then all of a sudden, I
get cut.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Oh nah nah, hell noah, Man, I cooked it.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
I was cooking the who I'm trying to think who
we played? We played the Raiders over the week, my
rookie year.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Man.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I cooked the dude so bad Wednesday, Thursday and Friday,
after practice they cut it for real, cut it, cook it.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Cook. I was cook on you. I was cooking.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
It's it's so funny. I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
I didn't know the correct way to practice. I knew
one thing. Do everything Special Teams. I'm out there playing
around just to keep my body warm and moving.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I'm at the I'm running down on special teams. Scout team.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Came, I will listen, I will I'm in year ten, too,
is you know, to is obviously on the Bengals will
be so I'm peeping. I'm watching t Okay, Okay, this
is how he do it. Okay, that's how you do it.
Scout team.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Come up.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I'm taking all the reps on Scout team to give
my number ones a look. And Too pulled me to
the side, like, what is how you practice? You're not
supposed that you got to give your body time the rep. Boy,
I take all the reps. This is this is all
I know.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
This how I know?

Speaker 4 (12:46):
I said, boy, He's like, oh your boy, you tripping boy.
You got to save your legs for Sunday. I say,
t I'm gonna be all right, but this is how.
This is how I've always done it. I always take
the Scout team, so I give the number one corners
the best look depending on who the like, boy, you
better than me, because I couldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, early, early, you know, I would take a couple.
You know, there's like want to get some work or something.
But as I got older, I started getting your five
year six.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I ain't got nothing for you.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I didn't know my first time, thinking there was something
wrong with it. Once TiO got there, the Cincinnati was
telling me, listen, you need you need to scale back,
and look, you need.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
To tone it back. Do what you do with the
ones when we're up offensively and you go, you go.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Right, you give it everything. I'm getting seven hard round.
But plus o Joe, you taking self. You're taking one
on ones too. See I was the only tight end
that took one on ones. I never read routes against
a linebacker and anything like that. I ran routes against
the watch email. So I'm I'm getting I'm getting that
and I'm getting my reps. So once we got through,
I do like five six players of nine on seven

(13:52):
might say eighty four go down against some work on
one on one. Okay, because you know during the court
some games I split out wide, I'd be in the flexes.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
But this is your opportunity. If I could.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Tell any rookie anything, give him any advice. When you're
running scout team, that is your Sunday, that is your game, Wednesday, Thursday,
Friday is your Sunday.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
You approach it like that. You like that?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Hey, man, take it either no, I ain't take it
either or nothing. When they cut that film off, they're
gonna see number eighty one bus in his ass because uh,
I ain't going home because I'm taking How you taking
it easy?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
You want to? Let okay?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Hey, bro, I understand that you a vet and you
know you in your ten or whatever the case may be.
But I'm going thousand miles an hour as hard as
god to live it and the ball gonna be coming
to me too. Oh yeah. And they was like, hey, son,
he's a rookie. So what you think that? What you
think they got to do more than that? So you

(14:56):
that's for sure. I don't even know what I'm doing.
I'm just I'm just following a I just see the circle. Hey,
that's where the mall going. Hey, let me get that
right there. Every time before they got before they got
hip to it, oh cho, they started running. They ain't
realized their worded circle was that's where the mall was
supposed to go.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
They're like, all right, go ahead, man, they running double rods.
I'm kidding, got yot out. I'm just getting the ball.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Dylan Gabriel was seven years old when Flacco made his
NFL debut.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Your door was six.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Eighteen years in the league eighteen, Dylan Gabriel, twenty five. God, God, bro,
you go to college at a seventeen eighteen. If you
play four years, you're twenty one, twenty two. You play
five years, you're twenty two to twenty three.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Hit twenty five. Hold on what you mean exactlyude? Hold on?

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Hold is bow knicks, then bow knicks, stay.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Stay bow knicks one hundred two.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I think it's good.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
It's good if you got COVID, said everybody back the
coach COVID.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Remember you got that extra year for COVID.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Huh yeah, Hey, well, I don't know if they do it,
but they didn't.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
They didn't.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
What no red shirt going on in black college when
I would in school too. I don't know if they
they might red shirt now because we ain't had no money.
Bill said, hell now, home ain't no red shirt. We
can't well we can barely pay for you now, we
damn sure can't pay an extra year. Huh. Okay, he'll
be twenty five of different. Okay, So now that makes
sense because unless your birthday is like normally, if your

(16:39):
birthday is after September first, you have to start the
next So she doors twenty three, he'll be twenty four,
win Faybryward. Okay, that's about right, That's about right, because uh,
how a were you when you got drafted?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Though? Tick?

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Shoot?

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I was no, I was.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
I was nineteen.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Because uh, I got drafted. I got drafted before my
twenty second birthday. So I was twenty one in April.
I turned twenty two in June, but I didn't read shirt. Now,
if you red shirt, you already know you're gonna be
twenty two to twenty three coming out, and then if
you come out early, you're gonna be twenty twenty foe.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
I don't even know how old I was. I'm talking
about nineteen. I wonder how old I was.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Well, how were you when you graduated? Shit, I don't know.
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
I graduated late. I graduated.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
It might have gave you, no, not that, not for attendance.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Not that late. I'm just saying I graduate. Hey, I
was bad.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Did you have to go to summer school to gradd
I was bad?

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I was Oh Lord, yeah, I were bad.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I was bad.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I'm just I'm just being honest. My focus was.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
They might have gave you a certificate for attendance. They
ain't say nothing about requirement.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Oh I was twenty two. Okay, that isn't badly.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
So when your birth so you gonna turn twenty three?
So you when your.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Birth grade nine nineteen sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh so you turned so you turned twenty, so you
turned twenty two. You had already turned twenty two, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Oh one with your old one was your first year?
Huh oh one was my first year?

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, okay, it's so, it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
You were twenty three, yeah you boy to seven year
sixty eight? Man, Hey, look at up.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I think this man with twenty three seventy eight to
twenty seventy eight two thousand and one is twenty three,
because I'm almost certain I think you were there.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah you was my U was there my last year
in Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, I was at the year before that too.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
You wouldn't that you didn't want to be a part
of that on your they were bad show up boy? Please?
That was two thous a raven defense.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
I well, I don't see that. I ain't listen. I
didn't see them. I wouldn't have seen that defense either.
They would have.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Got first of all, how you go get the ball?

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Who is the quarterback? Kidting right? Kittening right?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Or Achille?

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Oh Kelly was there?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Achille? Yeah, he can't throw the ball on his back. Hey.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
He was twenty three years and seven months week one,
so you was almost twenty four.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Damn you. You almost tried to pull a bill in games.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
No, no, I have this, this, this, and I went
when I went where you went?

Speaker 1 (19:35):
You used to see the thing is you went to JUI. Yeah,
so you went the ju CO. You know where you
missed that year when you got kicked what Langston?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeap?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, I got thrown out of Langston University. See that
sets you back in the year. Now you got to
go to SAMO.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
It took me three years to get out of them,
and you only stay one year the organ. That's all
eligibility I had left. I was the one for God
that hey.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Oh when my back was against the wall at Oregon State,
I ain't had no choice that would either get it
either I get it done now or it ain't happening.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
And sometimes when you're forced that, when that's all when
that's your only option.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Hey, you want to see you want to know how
bad an the wall fight? Back it in the corner.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Well, who you telling? Because I was back in the corner.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Now put it back against the wall. I don't care
what you might think it is. Be a chicken, be
a dog, be a cat. Obviously a lion or an elephant.
If you want to know how bad something will fight,
you put him against the wall and you'll find out.
So you're back against the wall. You didn't want to
go back home. Deliverer the city and everybody say, I

(20:46):
talked man. I told y'all, man, Chad.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Well done. He's gonna be right back with us. Man,
you ain't want to hear.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
That boy exactly.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Oh Joe, the Commander signed Terry McLaurin to a three
year deal. Worked up the ninety six million he receives
thirty million dollar bonus and the new deal with Terry
back The Commanders are true Super Bowl contenders. We got
the list up there. You can see right down on
average salary. The guys are based at Ocho. I said,

(21:17):
I said thirty two. I say, somewhere between twenty eight
thirty two. You was at thirty two I said, I
don't see him going north of DK. But hey, plus
he's a little older, o Jo, and you don't want
to be the team to set that president. Because I
was reading the day of the twenty four guys that's
got these new deals, only one is thirty years of
old age of older when signing him, and that's Tyreek.

(21:40):
Tyreek is unique because Tyreek might be might be the oldest,
but he outrun everybody.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
This last one.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
So with that being said, congratulations, Terry Well deserved five
feen seconds one thousand yard season. He was second in
the NFL in touchdown catches last year behind Chase who
won the Triple Crown. Very very well deserved. I was
glad the Commanders came through. Reward your players. That's exemplary,
not only on the field, but off the field as well.

(22:10):
I always like to see teams reward their players. They drafted,
their home grown you know that player rewarded.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Question, can you please why management? Why the powers that be?
Always know it doesn't take that long to do the numbers.
I don't know who does the books for the Commanders.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
It doesn't take that long. Why do we wait until.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
The end of training camp preseason passes by, and then
all of a sudden you decide to pay a player.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Two weeks before the season starts.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I'm saying, without being privy to both sides, maybe he
offered concessions. Maybe they came up. Remember it was being
reported he wanted north of what DK got. DK was
at thirty three, So maybe he dropped down. Maybe a
he lorded his ceiling. Maybe they lifted the floor. We
don't know without being privy to both sides of the information.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
But at the end of the day, oh Joe, yeah, uh,
you would like.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
For it to be in a little smoother transition, or
like for things to go a lot smoother.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
But at the end of the day, isn't the job
is to get the get the done. Yes, uh? And
I think he had.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
He was dealing with an injury anyway, so I don't
know how soon how soon he was gonna be able
to practice. Now this gives him an opportunity. It gives
him a couple of weeks work some of the dustof
he's gonna be tired, he gonna be He's gonna be
a he gonna be tired like a one leg man
and an ask can.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Because I tell people all the time on Joe.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
And you know this. You get in shape playing football.
You can want all the wins, frists, you won't. That
ain't football because you don't got no helmet, you don't
got no shoulder pads, you don't got people tugging on you,
and you ain't got cleeps on your feet. So if
or in order for you to get in football shape,

(24:00):
you gotta play football. That's what you gotta do. That's
what in track and field. You don't see them doing
anything else. You don't see them playing basketball to get
in shape. You get in track shape by running track.
You get football shaped by playing football, Basketball shape by
playing basketball.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
That's how you get in shape. And so and I
agree with you.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
You were talking about this, like, man, I just hate
when these hold out because then you run the risk
of soft tissue because you haven't pushed your body, and
they will they Hey, hey, take these next couple of
reds like nah, bro let me let me build up
to let me build a little callous, Let me build
up to that.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Brother, Hey, don't push me too hard to pass.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Because growings hamstring, quads, adductors, adductors. But I but I'm
glad Scarytary got the bill done. You know, hey he
got he got what he wanted. He got thirty million
signing bonus. He was trying to get that DK because
I think DK got sixty million games indeed, so he

(25:01):
was kind of looking for saying, look, bro, you.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Straight, you good? You straight? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Hey that fifteen you're a third round pick. If you
took care of your money, this right here just decided
moments alone, you should be good, even before you even
get to the big money that you're gonna start making
next year, you should be straight. He seems like a
guy that has his head on straight. He'll do good

(25:26):
with his money. But I'm glad Washington. I always like
that on Joe. I like when teams reward the players.
I do guys that you know, I mean Cincinnati, they
drafted you, they saw you, they know your work habits,
they know what you do.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Absolutely I hate, I don't I don't like.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
So let me get this straight. I've been here for
five years. You hard time me. But come Fredgency, you
go get this this joke in here. You don't know
what you like. You don't know what his practice habits is.
You don't know anything about the guy but you gonna
give him a boatload of money. You see me every
day busting my ass and then you hard telling me
about my paper.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Well that's that's crazy. I'm like, bro, who dang, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
But it's nice to know y'all got some money. So
when I go knocking on the door next year, no excuses,
I would hear nothing. O. Yo, But Jamar Chase is
the highest paid at forty zero point two five zero,
and then you got Jetta. But there's a big gap
between who's gonna be able to fill that gap? Who's
gonna be available for yo to go in between that

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thirty five and forty or who pulled vaults over Chase Pook.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
In the cool No, No, it's gonna be a minute.
It's gonna be a minute.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Uh. You got neighbors. You got Brian Thomas Judas.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
It would probably be neighbors. Neighbors are Brian Thomas Jr.
If anything, it will probably be neighbors. Brian Thomas Jr.
Might fall right up under that. Write it right up
under that. But the expert, I say, neighbors might get
maybe forty two forty three.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
And see, Chase had the perfect storm because he had
this in a contract year. So he got the triple
Crown in a contract. So if you give him what
he's asking for, maybe you get him for thirty five,
thirty six, thirty seven. But now since you didn't, you
got a tack over. You gotta pay a tax. You

(27:26):
gotta pay. They bet, they bet against him. They bet again,
that's what they do, yeah, they I mean, it happens
all the time. And I wouldn't you know why I
wouldn't bet against him because his best friend at the
borarter back.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah mm hmm, Hey, he gonna get it.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
To him then he got he got he got it
to him too.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Right, I just sent him a Richard Meal, I got
him a pack tack. I'd have got something real nice.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, for sure, hold on, hold on on.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Nico Collins already got paid.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I think he did.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Okay, Okay, Yeah, so it'd be one of one of
the young bulls. I don't know if they get the forty, BUTLK.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Malik neighbors is they might because of the time o
Jo think about. So he got signed this deal this offseason.
By the time they come up, that's gonna be twenty seven.
So that'll be that'll be two years, three years. So
if Hey Price.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Is going there, there'll probably be Milik Neighbors and Brian Thomas.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, and probably guess what your another thing is gonna happen.
They'll probably be an eighteenth game. Ah, that's right, that
eighteeh game gonna be here. Twenty eight I'm saying twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, probably bigger piece of the pie too.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
So hey so, but I'm glad Terry gets it.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
He's right there with Garrett Wilson, AJ Brown, Terry m
They're all around thirty two million. And then you got
Am and Rod Saint Brown, Brandon au Tyreek T Higgins
at eleven, j Lo Wattle is at twelve. So the
twenty nineteen draft third round pick has been the team's
received a leader in reception and receiving yards each of

(29:16):
his six seasons. He's put together a string of five
straight one thousand yard campaigns, which becoming the first NFL
first in NFL history to do so with a different
quarterback every year per NFL research. So he's had a
different starting quarterback basically every single year he's been there.
He's he's putting together kind of like what de Happ

(29:38):
did with Yes, it didn't matter who d Happ was,
I could have been throwing the d hawk and he
was gonna gona build all pro he had. Now when
he got DeShawn, it really took him to another level.
But it didn't matter if it was case Keenum, if
it was Brian Hoyriott, if it was brought Aus Willen,
de Hop ain't give a damn who the quarterback was.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
De Happ was putting the work on everybody, everybody.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
So that's how d Hop made really made a name
for himself because he could have used every excuse, man,
give me a quarterback, like give me, give me this,
and give me that. The hops I got who I got,
But y'all know who I am.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Oh, all you had to do is put the ball
in the vicinity. That's it.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I still don't I still don't believe this man. Bill
O'Brien traded d Hot for a damn running back.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
I don't know what's wrong.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
You're talking about the top, You talking about the top
at the time, d Hopp was had to be top two,
top three.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Absolutely. Now, if I'm not mistake, and you traded for
running back.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
He wanted to get paid to If I'm not mistaken, right, Yeah,
I mean that that's that's as that's always the deal,
that's always the problem.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
And and and.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
The running back is already out of the league, and
d Hop still going. He goes to Arizona, has a
great season. He's not the same d Hop that he
once was. But hell, who who is? Who is at
year twelve? Unless you Jerry right, everybody's starting to slow
down twelve, you're twelve thirteen, o Joe, if you're fortunate

(31:06):
enough to play that long at the receiver position, only
Jerry was still putting up. Crazy that Jerry had twelve
hundred yards at farting what party year old you know
that's gonna be playing? I mean thinking about it, Jalla
gotta be twenty six. You think Jella gonna put up
twelve hundred yard fourteen years from now?

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Hell no, hey, you people don't realize. People don't realize
how long that, Ojo.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
People don't realize how long Jerry actually played Barrier in
the numbers. You got to realize, what was that ninety seven?
He tours acl the first game of the season, came
back that same season and he called two touchdowns gifts up.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Funny thing about it is his situation is probably a
little different than everybody else is because he was a
focal port of the offense. When it came to passing
the ball, he was still the viable number one option,
the targets and opportunity for which presented itself. Now most
of them, most of the players just you know, in
this day and age, when you reach a certain age
and you hit thirty, you know, they started acting funny

(32:05):
with you.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Somebody else did draft.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Then they'll decrease your opportunities. They'll decrease your targets and
they'll say, oh where you lost a step.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
I ain't lose nothing. Don't play with me.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
You know. They did it to him too. They drafted J. J. Stokes.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
And the next year who they draft on? Yo, you're boy.
Oh yeah, so it happened everybody, you know, Hey, don't think,
don't think we got oh you Jai? No no no, no, no, no,
no no no. They look at the replace, they look both.
And then THEO put together that a monster season, and
they put together the monster season to had that game

(32:42):
against the Bear where he had two sixty five and
twenty catchers on Jared Rice's day. The Bear said, nah,
if somebody else can came for three hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Get thirty you you ain't touching it.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
And guess what to We're crazy, We're crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
And as they say, the rest is history.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
But it seems to me, Oh Joe, And we're gonna
talk about this a little bit with the Bingers, is
that the team has all the leverage. Guys are not
willing to miss a million dollars. Guys are not willing
to withst miss eight hundred thousand, two million dollars. Guys

(33:31):
are not will willing to miss that kind of money,
won't Yoe. So although they might be in the right,
I have great I have a great foundation to stand on.
I need to be compensated because I've outperformed the contract.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I know this. You know this.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
If I had underperformed the contract, you would have released me.
So I've outperformed the contract. Compensate me. But very few
guys are willing to risk.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Now. I wouldn't miss the whole season.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Probably I would come back eight games because I want
to get a credited because if you missed the whole season,
you lose a creditation. You don't get credit for that season.
So you they got to get at least eight games.
Oh Joe, in order to get credit for the season.
But o Joe, guys ain't really trying to miss No. Nine, ten,
twelve million dollars M so and and and So that's

(34:22):
the leverage that the the teams have, and they know it.
They know you're not gonna miss that money. See Jared knows.
Jared says, all that are Jery gonna go to the
bank and say, hey, check this out. I'm gonna be
a little I'm gonna I'm gonna be a little slow
this month, so I'll probably catch you all in October, Okay,
mister Jones, because they saw Jered just got a check

(34:44):
for four thirty two in mark, so they'll they'll put
that down the road. I can't go to my kids school,
say you know, I'm a little behind this one, can y'all? No, no, no,
mister Sharle. We're gonna need that three thousand dollars childcare.
We're gonna need that fifteen thousand dollars for a school
private tuition. They they'll give those guys the benefit of

(35:05):
the doubt. Well, just like us, we're in situations, don't
Joe that we get things from financial institutions that normal
people couldn't go. Do I understand. I'm not he tried
to tell, you know, I'm just saying there's certain things
that they'll allow.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Us to do.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Knowing who we are, knowing the financial situations that we're in,
they're gonna be a little bit more relaxed.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
But guys are just they just can't.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
They just can't afford to leave that kind of money
on the table.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
And it's been going on for so long.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Guys like they fight it as long as they can,
but if they do hold in. But you know, at
the end of the day, like I said, I just
can't see a situation where Michael Parson is gonna leave
one point three million on the table.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Hey, I just can't. I don't know, Hey, because.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Think about it, one point three million and Texas.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
But still I don't know, because you're gonna if you
if you fold here, if you fold here, then that
that's your leverage.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Then you're not You don't hear, you don't get another
didn't Jared.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Tell you we got him? But in the contract for
three more years, he has no leverage.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
He's not gonna play with him like that.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
He's not gonna What did you what did you did
you see Jerry slide to the front of his chair.
When when somebody slide to the front chair, they mean
they mean business.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
Okay, hey, they mean business. Listen in a conversation like that,
when it comes to money and you slide forward, or
when you're playing video games.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
This is very important.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
I know you don't play video game, but the check
and the test of this when stuff is getting serious
and it's in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
And you slide up in your chair and get closer
to the monitor. Yeah, no time, it's go time, and
you mean nothing but business at that point. So I know,
I know Garry was serious. I knew he was serious.
An he meant exactly he said.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
He wanted to make sure stephen A understood the seriousness
of what he was saying. Yeah, we got him on
the contract for three more years. So he's telling you,
I got this far your option and I got two
franchise tags.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I'm not afraid that.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
You nasty work too, though. That's nasty work.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Didn't matter of fact, I even mention that to even
say that, you know, it doesn't surprise me based on
some of the comments he said previously. You're talking about well, yes,
if I pay him, not doesn't mean he's gonna be
available because he got hurt.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
What that that's that's that's just you unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Did you watch have you been watching the documentary?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Still?

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
In nineteen and I think it was ninety six when
uh uh he did the deal outside of the NFL,
because the NFL with Nike. He did a deal with
Sophiel Knight and Nike and the league for two hundred
and fifty million.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Hold on, come on, they lighted for two hundred and
fifty million.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Jerry turned around and counter sued them for seven hundred million,
talking about they had a monopoly.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
So they was at the owners meeting. They had their
Norman call.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Okay, now, they asked Jerry to leave because they're about
to talk about him. Well, so Jerry tells the story
that he gots up, He gets up, and he starts
to walk out because he knows he can't be a
part of the meeting. He said, I know, guys, you
guys are suing it for three hundred million, and you're
gonna try to take my ball club. He said, I
know that's what y'all gonna do. He said, but I

(38:38):
tell you what, I'm suing you for seven hundred million,
and if I.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Win, I'm gonna collect every effing cent.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Wait, he talked, he talked, Wait, hold on, he got,
he got, he got Cojones like that.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
He says. I know what y'all trying to do.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
He said, But if I win, I'm gonna collect every
I don't care how long it takes.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I'm gonna collect every effing what.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
What is what's the Cowboy documentary on? You're gonna watch
this to night?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Bright? How many? How many? How many episodes? It's like
eight episode?

Speaker 3 (39:21):
I got to see that.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
I got.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Oh yeah, Paul Tagnabo went for that.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
What you're gonna do?

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Because at the end of the day, look them owners,
legal fees are coming.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Out of their pot, right.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
That's why every time they're like, hey, the long as
something goes on, litigation goes on. Those billable hours. I
know a little something about billable hours. When you start

(39:59):
getting up there, oh Joe, you start getting up there
a thousand, fifteen hundred, two thousand dollars an hour, and
everything is a charge. You call, way, Hey, how's it going.
That's a charge. We go down there in file, that's
a charge. They answer emotion. That's the charges you in court.

(40:20):
That's a charge.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
But that's a different ballgame too.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Uh see, Jared was saying, hold on.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Jared said, hold on, I'm doing four times what anybody
else is doing, but I'm getting one thirtieth of it.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
No more.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Oh that's crazy, No more. Oh that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Look.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
The one thing that the NFL don't like get to
that's why they kind of let this this left all alone.
Al said, I'm as said, I'm going to La Nah,
you can't do that. I assue you said, I'm going
back to Oakland.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Al, you can't do that. I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
And how did this sort how does the story end
with with with the NFL and and Jerry.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Jerry is the only one that's not a part of
the revenue sharing when it comes to merchandise when it
comes to that, so he pockets everything everything that's the
Dallas Cowboys. He the NFL said they.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Owned the loco. Jes said, no, you don't. I believe
that long.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Trey Henderson's prolonged contract dispute with the Bengals has finally
been resolved. Hendrickson and the Bengals have agreed to rework
the contract and will provide him with an additional fourteen
million dollars, bringing his twenty twenty five salary to thirty
million dollars. They'll agree with expires after the twenty twenty
five season, meaning Hendrickson will have a chance to become

(41:50):
a free agent and cash in on the open market,
unless the Bengals ought to use the franchise tag on
Hendrickson next offseason.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
I don't see that happen to be.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
You got to give him a hundred and fifty percent
raise of what he's making right now.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
So one hundred and fifty rais is what.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Thirty three and a half thirty four million, fifty percent
rais of thirty million.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yeah, I had like thirty I had. I had.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
I had to stand up with excitement. I had a
stand up with This is very important to me. This
is very important to me. We got all hands on
deck right now. I know y'all love talking trash about
my bankers.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
We had the offensive players playing in the preseason, huh.
Because we're trying to take the beginning of this season seriously.
So in the back end of the season, we don't
have to worry about anybody else being in control of.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Our destiny or the average of the top five.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Hey, Chad, you hear me. We got Trey Hendrickson's sign. Okay,
I know our deep it was bad last year. This
is a new year.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
We got some new key offseason acquisitions.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
We have people we got in the draft, and we
got Trey Hendrickson coming off to back to back seventeen
sack game seasons.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Right, this year, he gonna.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Have seventeen and a half sax season, seventeen and a
half sax seasons, he gets seventeen sacks in the game,
that's gonna be a record.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
I'm bad, I said it wrong, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
But he gonna get twenty He's gonna get twenty two
sacks this year. He's gonna get twenty two sacks this year.
And the Bengals defense don't listen to me. Stay with
me real quick, Okay, listen, I'm right there with you.
We don't need I number Bengal fans in here.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
We don't need our defense to be top five, top ten.
Just get us.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Somewhere around fifteen or sixteen, somewhere in that.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Area middle of the pack. You need to be middle. Yeah,
that's it.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
That's it. That's all we need.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
Middle of the pack who they are, And I'm telling
you what's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
I'm gonna see y'all boys in February. I'm gonna see y'all.
Book you tickets now February. I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
I'm telling you now, book it now, bookie tickets in
San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Right now. I don't know who we're gonna play.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
I know one thing they see North gozu through Cincinnati,
they go.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Through franchise tagg is the average of the top five,
so that might be a little more.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Who TJ.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Water the Heist played at forty one million, Miles Garrett
at forty million, to Nail hundred thirty five point six,
Max Crosby thirty five, Nick Bosa thirty four million, So
you get one hundred and fifty percent raids or the
average of the top five players at that position, So.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
He'll be somewhere around thirty. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
That might be about thirty seven, because if you add
forty one, forty might be about thirty six thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
If they franchise them. I don't see.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Doing Like, listen, we're not We're not going through this again.
We're not going through this.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Well, if you franchise mot your all that money is
on the cap because you can't you can't prograte it
because that's just for lump somebody. It's not like a
signing bonus. You can pro rate it over life of
the contract. Three years, four years, five years. When you
franchise a guy that's thirty whatever that is, that number
is that goes on the camp this year, that's a
hard cap here.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yeah, don't be mad, hey, listen, I'm telling you now.
I know I have Ravens fans in the chat. I
know I have Stealers fans in the chat. I know
I have Browns fans in the chat.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
I love y'all.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
I love y'all.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Deally, you mean a lot to me. But I'm telling
you the ac North is going through Cincinnati Booking now.
I'm telling you right now.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
It's going through what you call them.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
It's going through uh Baltimore again again, it's going through Baltimore,
going through ninety five.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
I think check your mic. Something wrong with your mic.
I can't hear you ninety five. All right, okay, all right, Bady, listen,
you're gonna be sad. You're gonna be upset. You're gonna
be sad. You're gonna be upset. Who they Who they?
Who they think they're gonna beat them? Bango who?

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Anybody? Nobody?

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Everybody body?

Speaker 1 (46:15):
All I know I was saying last year when they
when they when they gonna win another game?

Speaker 2 (46:20):
When they when day?

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Last year?

Speaker 4 (46:22):
I understand we started off season off slow. We had
a little blunder. We started off slow. We started out
the gate oh and two. We lost to the Patriots.
There's no reason we should have lost that game. I
think I'm not mistaken. The Patriots might have won how many?
How many games the Patriots won last year?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
What folk? I know they wasn't one game for sure.
I don't know how many do you want that for that?
But I know they won one game?

Speaker 3 (46:46):
What helmet is that? Huh? You you're a Bronco. You're
you're a Bronco.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Come on, hey, listen, that's that's like, that's like you
know what I was with. I was dating this girl
for two weeks and you're like you claiming her? That's
that's what that that's what that is. You You're Baltimore,
your Baltimore presence in ring.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I dated the girl for two years.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Honeymoon phase. That don't even count. That's a relationship that
doesn't even count. That don't even count.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Hey, you talk about two years, two years, you don't
even know each other yet.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
You don't even know each other yet you still get
to know each other.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
We went to Bali, we with ah where else we
go nowhere?

Speaker 2 (47:35):
No? Absolutely, we went to the Malfy Coast.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
After two years? You taking them?

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Yea?

Speaker 4 (47:44):
Then the type of trips five years in five years
in for you a two years, that's red lobster. That's
red lobster. That's Golden Corral, like that's that's you, that's
that wave. You ain't going to know Bali only two years?

Speaker 2 (47:59):
You know? I was.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
I was a big baller back in the day.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Who they who they? Who they think they're gonna beat
them Bengals? Who they?

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Who they?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Who they think they're gonna beat them? Mangles? O?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Hey, But I'm glad trade was he's outperformed the contract
back to back season, had thirty five sacks and back
to back seasons. That doesn't happen very often. And uh,
I was glad he was able to get a buck
yef Yes, sir, Hey, I'm sad to Uncle. I hope
we talking about this, but I'm gonna. I'mnna let you
go because I don't got to run a show in
front of me. But I'm sad about.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
One of the roster moves that happened down there in Tampa.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Okay, we here we go, fet fit get it.
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