Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and CFB legend Johnny Manziel reacting to the latest from Week 1 of the College Football season as LSU takes on Clemson, Arch Manning and Texas i struggling against defending Nation Champs Ohio State, Alabama getting destroyed by Florida State, and much more!
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is Glory Days with Johnny Manziel. All right, let's get
into it right now. The game that just went off,
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LSU the number Tigers, number nine, number time, number nine.
Excuse me, LSU Tigers go on the road into first
time in a long time. You've had two death valleys.
That's what Clemson called their home death Valley. That's what
LSU calls their home death valley. So one death valley
went into the other death valley. So number nine, LSU
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go on the road take down the number four Clemson
Tigers by the score of seventeen to ten. Gary Nussmyer
played extremely was johnn I thought he played really well
in the second half. He calmed down, he showed a
lot of poise, a battle back, and they got to
win a very tough fault victory. Normally, early on in
the season, these are the type of games LSU normally
(04:07):
lose it. And you see opening they lost the Florida
State they got blown out, and then they lost the
year before that, they got beat. Now, LSU showed me
a little something going on the road in an extremely
hostile environment, the number four team in the country and
getting a win. That was very, very impressive. Johnny, let
me ask you this, what did you like about what
you saw from LSU?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I mean, I think you look at a lot through
the game. You see it was kind of stagnant there
for a while where nothing was really happening. It's kind
of just kicking it back and forth waiting for something
to happen. But they stayed patient and that's myred finally
got things going a lot better in the second half.
They have the turnover in the first half that really
killed a lot of momentum. But one of these kind
of slugfest games that when you go on the road,
you never really know how you're going to win these
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and get these done. But when you look at the
end of the day, you want to have this win,
and I think they just found a way to get
it done in the second half. Nothing too like overwhelming,
overpowering or anything like that, but just to solid, you know,
one touchdown win.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh Joe, what'd you like about what you saw from LSU?
Considering these are the type of games. We talked about
that Brian Kelly has seemingly lost early in the season
and finding a way to win a game like this.
You know, when you beg on the road and you
beat the number four team in the country, it doesn't
matter if it's seventeen team, if it's seventeen sixteen, if
it's eleven, differ if it's four to three, you won long.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
As long as you get to win. Listen, LS you
played extremely way. I think the beginning of the game.
It was very stagnant as a very defensive game. Obviously,
most of the time when it comes to college football,
even NFL, the defense is always ahead of the offense
because all they have to do is read and react
and it takes time for offenses to get rolling. And
what I did see from LSU and I.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Didn't see enough of.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Let me tell you what I didn't see enough of
unk of LSU is being wide receiver university. LSU to
me is now wide receiver university. I don't see that dog.
I don't see that one year out there that can
make a difference for LSU, and I don't see that
for Clemson. Needs there are another university that produces some
good vide receivers.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I haven't seen anybody emerge.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Actually, honestly, were talking about not just this game, the
entirety of the day throughout college football. Those that I
thought are supposed to step up, those that have always
been on my radar as really really good receivers.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Nobody, really, what's the word looking for?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Nobody?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, nobody, nobody. Especially this game tonight. I was really
looking forward to to seeing somebody for LSU to make
a difference in the game, somebody for Clemson to make
a difference in the game. But that didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It was more of a defensive defensive slug fest, and
the points that were scored they were earned.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Every point was earned the night.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I think LSU will look back on this game, and
if the Seeds they go and have the type of
season that I think guys they want to have, they'll
definitely look back at this game. Anytime you can go
on the road in a hostile environment, and this is
not Clemson's number four team in the country. They have
the number three rated overall prospect. He happened to be
a quarterback n Klubnick and to go in there and
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to get that win.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think that tells you.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I think Brian Kelly learns something about his team tonight, Johnny.
I think he really have I really think he has
a team now that he believes that he can take
it anywhere in any environment and get a victory.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Look, this is a playoff team Clemson from last year,
same quarterback, coming back, a lot of the same pieces.
So you got to feel like early in the season,
you know, this game has been scheduled on their you know,
bulletin board for the whole offseason. They knew what they
were coming into to play. And like we said earlier,
this is a game LSU normally doesn't come out and win,
so for them to do that has to make them
feel really good about themselves. I don't see anything in
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Clemson's game that they should feel too down on. You know,
you obviously want to win this game, but going through
the ACC and the schedule that they have, they'll be fine.
I think they need to continue to have club Nick
run the ball as he did a couple times there,
to extend some drives and do some certain things. But listen,
everything's going to go through that guy number two for Clemson,
and if he doesn't put a touchdown on the board.
(08:00):
You know, they're usually not going to come out with
a win in that situation.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, LSU had to play well. They showed up with
T shirts with one and zher on it. When you
on the road, Johnny and O Joe, when you show
up on on the road with against the number four
team in the country and you're wearing T shirts and
you already got one to oh boy, you better come
out there. Well, you better come on out there and play.
And they played. They played that second half, they really
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dominated it. They really dominated this game. Like I said,
like Johnny, you were twenty eight to thirty eight, two
thirty one touchdown, not overpowering. He didn't have a three
hundred yard day, he wasn't seventy plus percent completion percentage,
but he was solid. He made big time throws when
he absolutely had to have him to get a drive,
tie the ball game up, and then he goes down
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and get the go ahead touchdown. He was very, very impressive,
and I think Brian Kelly has to be impressed with
this team. Defensively, they started getting out the club Nick
and once they started to put that pressure on, they
brought a blimpse. The guy a linebacker looped around on
fourth and for and they turned them over on downs.
But lu u, this was an impressive win. Now you're
gonna look at it. Texas is in the SEC. Uh,
(09:08):
Georgia is in the SEC. There are no look, there
are no They're not gonna be any cakewalks. I mean
even Vandi Belt say, hold on, hold on, We're not
We're not your homecoming now. You know, vander Belt used
to be here, Johnny.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
First game of the season was homecoming Vandi Belt. On
the schedule, vander Belt was like ten home comings the season. Hey,
everybody's thinking, hey, I'm going to pass my stats.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Hey, hey the party of the night. I need, I
need to shine. But the s the SEC is gonna
be very, very tough. Uh, Clemson, I agree with you, Johnny.
The acc that look that not ain't a whole lot
that right home.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
The team that we're about to talk about a little bit,
Florida State, they showed us something that constantly he showed.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
He showed us something today.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Hey, Florida State on a Johnny, I don't know what
Florida State team we saw today, but they look really good,
not only offensively, which has really been stagnant for a
very long time.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
But defensively they came to play earl a little junior.
Is that earl little son?
Speaker 6 (10:17):
I think so it is been so hey boy, he nice, Hey,
he is nice.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
He nice.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
He was playing some good guy. Damn ball at that boy.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So we go go ahead and get to that one.
We're goingead talking about that, Okay. Florida State pulls the upset.
Unranked Florida State takes down the number eight team in
the country. Tod fuot pressure on Todd Simpson pretty much
all day. He was pressured on sixteen to fifty one dropbacks,
one of ten for thirty yards with three sacks. When pressure,
Simpson was not on the same prage as Ryan Williams,
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who left the game late.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
With a concussion.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Simpson was just five or eleven when targeting him all
three on passes, throwing more than five yards down the field,
chailing the I was, I was thinking to myself, Johnny
and Ocho. I was like, man, look here, I understand,
and there's not a college coach that's gonna be coach Saban.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But you can't. You can't.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
He's lost to four unranked teams in fourteen games. Coach
Saban was there damn near two decades and he might
have lost four unranked teams in his whole tenure. And
I was like, man, they might get rid of killing
the boar. But I looked at that buyout. He has
a seventy million dollar buyout. They ain't got them deep
parties like y'all got Johnny down in Texas, A and
(11:32):
M where y'all got a Jimbo up out of there
for seventy seven million. They ain't got pockets like that.
So so o' cho, let bask you this. You watched,
you watch Alabama. Coach Saban's not walking through that door
anytime soon. Okay, Coach Saban's not walking through that door ever. Yeah,
when you look at Alabama, they don't even look the same.
(11:53):
They don't have the same swagger. They don't even take
the field to.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Save well, you got to understand, of course, it don't
look the same. This is what we're seeing now. When
Saban was there, This was pre.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
N I l uh.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
This was pre n Il Nil came along, and even
the scoreboard all the way across, so all the talent
and the players that used to go to Alabama where
everybody would go and have to wait in line. They
got received after the receiver, after receiver, quarterback after quarterback,
after quarterback, running back after the running back, at the
running back, everybody going all over the place because teams
have money and players don't want to sit and wait
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behind anybody else. They want to play right now, money talks,
which is one of the reasons why Nick Saban left
because the even the playing field has even where the
level of talent is scattered across everywhere where. Now most
of the part coaching comes into play, and coaching is
that much more important? Is that much more important now?
(12:46):
Because Florida State today, I'm not going to say they
embarrass all they embarrassed Alabama, but I guarantee you a
lot of people, a lot of people, especially if you gamble,
I guarantee you had Alabama to win.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
I guarantee you had Alabama to win.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Johnny, what you think, what didn't you like about what
you saw from Alabama? And what did you love about
what you saw from the Seminoles?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I mean, I think Castelano's for Florida State jumped off
the page and every aspect of everything you know, you
look at what they did. He only threw the ball
nine times. That's super effective. To be able to go
put thirty one points up and you only throw the ball,
you're only nine to fourteen for one hundred and fifty two.
That's efficient. The one thing that I will say that
I think in the path you walk fac an Alabama team,
(13:35):
you probably got a little fear. This is Bama, the
team that's been a dynasty, the team you got a
little fear. That fear aspect of what Alabama is is
completely gone. And nobody's scared of them boys, not Vandy,
not Kentucky, not nobody. Nobody's walking in and seeing Alabama
on the schedule and having any kind of shake, any
kind of fear. Nothing. They've been getting wiped the last
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couple of years. You say that buyouts deep, but like
they're not going to sit here and let this stand
for sure. They'll go find it in New Woods somewhere.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
They absolutely will.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Because I was thinking the same thing what they said
about Jimbo, because prior to Jimbo, the biggest college buio
was Gus Mozan when he got twenty one million to
leave Auburn, and basically you tripled damn near quadruple that
with this buyout for Jimbo.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
But you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
When you're Alabama and you've had to expect and you've
done what you've done six national championships, you lost another
two tabs in the championship game, you're damn there. They
called it the Alabama Invitational because Alabama was in it
every year and people had them with a chance to
win it every year. You can't count Alabama out. You
can't count Alabama out. But likes you said, Johnny, nobody
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fears Alabama anymore. And when you don't, that's half the battle.
It's fear. That's one of your biggest strength. There's another
man's fear where they don't have that anymore. And I'm
looking at Alabama, oh Joe, they ain't got the same
level of talent.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
When you look at you look at the running backs,
it was mark Ingram and Trent Richardson and this one
and that one. And you look at and Jarry Gabry
and Jamier Gibbs and this one and that one. You go,
you go look at the wire receivers. You went to
Julio and Ridley and Cooper and this one and that one,
and Judy get him back, and you look at the quarterbacks,
You look at those big d linemen that used to have.
(15:22):
You look at the DB's they don't have that no more.
They just have guys now. Ain't nobody When do you
watch the game, Johnny, and you played against them? When
if we can you honestly say you watched an Alabama team.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It ain't nobody jump off the page at you. Ain't
nobody Like damn.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Since the Georgia game last year where Ryan Williams did
his thing and absolutely went crazy, just kind of one
player stand out where you're like, Okay, this guy is
a level of talent of Alabama that we're a customer.
Seen everything else. You may see a splash or a
dash here or there, but you're not seeing it consistently
weekend and week out like you're accustomed to.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And the funny thing too, uncle is I said something
about for me obviously being a receiver, and thinking about
college football and thinking about all the players have been
promoted and advertised as supposed to be you know them boys,
and me saying like nobody popped out to me on
film today and people and people in the chest.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Saying it's only week one, Yeah, week one. Yes, it's
week one. That's the whole point.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You allowed to pop out just because it's week one, that.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
You can't what do we talk about it's only week one.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yes, that's when you actually pop out and you show
off when you're playing against the top talent, you're playing
against the good teams. These are the games you're supposed
to pop out because you're trying. When you get to
the next level. Every week, it's the same thing. Every
week you play at NFL. It's them boys, you play
against them boys. So I'm expecting. I was expecting. I
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was expecting maybe maybe coaches want to call conservative games,
maybe didn't want to feature the players that we've all
been been noticing on commercials and seeing over and over
and over. So maybe maybe next week, maybe the week after,
I don't know. At some point the games of the
day were okay. The Alabama Alabama and Florida State game,
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to me, was probably the best and the most exciting
with the Clemson.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
The Clemson game followed after that.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
But there's one more game we haven't talked about yet
that was the absolute snooze fest.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I'll wait till we get there.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But when I look think about Alabama. The one thing
Alabama could do was stop the run. You know, Coach Saban, Johnny,
you had to throw. The thing that gave coach Saban
problem has always given coach Saban problems, the dual thread
quarterback and the guy that could pass the football. You
go back and look when they lost to Oklahoma. Trevor Knight,
I think that was his name. You look at what
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he did to them in the Sugar Bowl. He stood
back there and he threw the ball. Now, the thing
that gave him the most problem is a dual threat quarterback,
a guy that could throw the ball and run. You
look at Johnny. You look at Johnny Manziel, You look
at DeShawn Watson. You look at guys that Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You look. Damn, you're so happy if you're talking about
two guys.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Wasn't the Hodsman Trophy one guy with one of the
better quarterbacks in the NFL before the injuries and things
off the field took places, you see, but they got
ran on forty nine times for two thirty.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Coach, you don't run on Bama. Bama, don't let you run.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
They stuffed your they stuffed your run, and then they
go hunt your quarterback. They can't really hunt the quarterback.
They really can't consistently stop the run. And constall Liianos
was doing whatever he wanted to do. Like you said, Johnny,
extremely efficient in the passing game, only through the ball
fourteen times. But when you can and you know guz Mosahan,
you know what he wants to do. He wants to
(18:41):
run the football. He wants to give you a lot
of misdirection. He's gonna run Jets week, He's gonna run
your quarterback. He's gonna run his quarterback. That's what he does.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Florida State almost lost, not almost lost that game, but
almost letting them boys back in the game too. After
the second half, that second half and third quarter, every
everything started being conservative. Everything started consertative that the three
and outs given given Alabama the ball back, allowing them
to have a chance to get back into the game. Now,
if it was the old Alabama or a team that
was a little bit more competent and the fishing with
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the ball, hell, Alabama could have came back and win
that game. With as conservative as Florida's plate Florida State
played in that second half.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
What old Alabama would have been behind like that go ahead, Johnny, No.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I think I think you look at what Alabama wants
to do. In the past, they would always say, listen,
we're gonna go man on man. We're gonna take our
best versus your best, and we're gonna lock you down.
Times like we said in the past, where they've you know,
had success against an Alabama has been when you know
they're running man coverage, running down the field and the
quarterback's able to escape, to contain and be able to
get out. But this is a team that just doesn't
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even resemble that, Like we're going to put our best
corner against your best receiver and body them and throw
them out of bounds and bully them up, or you know,
we're gonna take our best edge rusher and just absolutely
mop you all day long. You don't, you're not used to.
And an Alabama team get pushed around, especially in the trenches.
Gotta be concerned.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
And yeah, and plus they can't run the ball like
they Houston. You know, Alabama get them hogs up and
I'm looking at the offensive line they go six seven
three forty six seven three twenty six six. I'm like,
bro y'all big for no reason why the hell you
that big if you k blocked, if you ain't moving though,
Oh Joe, you got to move forward to you that big,
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I said, y'all that big and kve block the sun
that giants? I said, Well, damn, ain't ain't no sense
of being Ain't no sisan being that big if you
ain't gonna move something, Yeah, I'm like, what damn?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Twenty nine rushes for eighty seven yards, Oh Joe, twenty
seven rushes.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Eighty nine yards three.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yards can look good on up to about all three
levels up front, second level, and the secondary. I really
want to know, chat. I don't know if you guys
know if you remember Earl Little that played for the
Cleveland Browns, is that his son little Junior?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Hey, he was all over. He was about the DV
earl one.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
To North Miami down here in Miami, that man, I
think boy.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Nick Saban coach two hundred and thirty games at Alabama.
He had four losses to unranked teams during his stretch.
Caitlin de Boor has coached fourteen games, and he just
lost his fourth game to an unranked team since two
thousand and seven in games in which Alabama was favored
by at least fourteen points. Coach Saban is one thirty
one and two. Kaylyn de Boor is four and four.
(21:37):
They get you up out of there. You don't want
to be the man. You don't want to be the
man to follow the man. You want to be the
man that followed the man that followed the man. So
I want to be the guy that came after the
guy that followed Coach Saban. I don't want that pressure.
You don't want to follow coach Bryant. You don't want
to follow a Nick Saban. You don't want to follow
one of those the Barrett Sweats or those air procedures,
(21:59):
one of those those mythical coaches. You want to be
the guy that followed the guy that followed him. Because
now that's what I'm going to forget, because I've got
some separation between me and coach Saban. I've got separation
between me and one of these historic, great, great coaches.
The question that I have for you, Johnny, is that
do you believe the ni L would be the death
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of the SEC.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
No? I don't think so. I think the South will
only the SEC in that conference will only find a
way to work around it and do what they need
to do. There's too much money there, there's too much
in these collectives to be able to make it, to
make it successful. I think we'll see some more. I
think we'll see different programs, different teams. Yes, same Georgia, Alabama,
(22:48):
the same couple of little pockets of teams that have
been winning for the SEC. So I think it'll give
them some disparity in that regard. But you know, for
the most part, I think the SEC is aligned for
or whatever moves forward in the college football in iol landscape,
whether it's getting to bigger conferences where we only have
three big conferences throughout the country or four or whatever
(23:10):
it may be. I think the SEC can keep accumulating teams,
more teams and end up being, you know, the biggest conference,
sixteen twenty teams. You know, it's all said and done,
and this stuff kind of plays itself out.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
O Joe, what you're thinking, because you look at Underwood,
we might think we might touch on him. You get
Larry Ellison, one of the top three richest men in
the world.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
He underwrites it.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You get Dave poyn Or from Barstool, You get a
Tom Brady says, hey, I'll personally help you out and
mentor you and coach you.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And you give a kid an eighteen.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Year old twelve and a half billion dollars, say, come
on down, here's what we got for you. It's hard
when you got these deep pocket donors. You get a
team like an Oregon, and you got Nike, and you
got those that Bill Night dollars, and you get all
those uniforms, and so now it ain't no no Dods Chargers,
it ain't no Challenger. These guys got Ferraris, Johnny, these
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guys got Lambos, these drives, these guys driving clingings and
McLaren's at eighteen nineteen year olds.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, listen, hey, the landscape has changed. Landscape, like I said,
I said, it even the playing field. And I think
it's good. I think it's good for the players. I
think it's good for the players because not only are
you able to obviously get money for planning.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Support you love, you're able to help your family out.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
You're able to help your family early as long as
you can stay focused and understanding that you got this
money as just a jumpstart for your bigger dream, for
your bigger goal, but making it to that next level
where the real money is. As long as you can
lock in, stay focused, and do what you need to do.
I think I like it because, like Johnny said, it
adds some disparity obviously to college football in general and
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even the playing field where everybody gets the talent instead
of one or two or three or just three teams
getting everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You're right, because they're sure. It sure seems that way now.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
It doesn't look like I mean and not look, Alabama
still get five star recruits, but they don't look like
the five stars they normally get. It's seemingly Ohio State
are getting those guys now, and they're like you said,
I mean, if they're twenty five thirty five star, Alabama's
getting one or two where they normally have two running backs,
two wide receivers, three D linemen, two old linemen, a
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corner uh, the number one, the number two or three
dual threat.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Those guys don't look like the same caliber player that
they want normally once have had had.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
And I think you got the right question two.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
And Johnny Alco had to help me out. When it
comes to these stars and whoever is rating.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Them, yes, from the people that's supposed to be these
four and five stars. When the lights were bright tonight,
when the lights were bright today, in general, the stars
come out.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
The stars didn't come out.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
At all.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Well, and that's the thing what you alluded to, you
say when people you you tweeted what you tweeted, and
people say, we yanna uh, they said, oh cho, Well
is just the first game. It doesn't matter if you
if you are who you say you are. First game,
second game, third game, first quarter, second quarter, third quarter,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
And I didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You're like a pitbull on a leash when this first
game comes up. You're you're sitting.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
There, thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You know, you've got bang bank phase going across the
middle and you can't touch each other, and you're running
by and you're barking. This is what you're doing all
training camp. You're bake blowing stuff up. You have the
sacks with you'd be like if that was in a game,
we tore your ass up. That's what you're doing them
all spring and all training camp. So now you're leash.
(26:55):
This is your time to run for yes, first time
on the field. Maybe in front of the lights. Yeah,
that could hit you a little weird a couple of spots,
but when it comes down to it, a dog is
a dog and it's time to be off the leash
or oh.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Archi.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Manning struggled in his debut against Ohio State. With scouts
and more than a dozen NFL teams watching, including nearby
Cleveland Brown, Manning was inconsistent. He completed seventeen to thirty
passes one hundred and seventy yards, one touchdown to an interception,
a very underwhelming day for a player some has paid
the number one pick in the twenty twenty six NFL Draft, Johnny,
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is this a side of things to come?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Or we just saying it's just one star eight Let's
not make too much of it.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I mean, listen, I think as an overall, as a
player like they, this is one of the things you
start early in the season. And I was talking to
Jake Spavatal, who is my offensive coordinator my second year.
He plays at Baylor. I'm talking to him about the
game the night before, and he's just like, fuck, man,
we can't run the ball. And there's certain things early
on in the season where you need more reps and
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more game reps and more live speed reps. And this
is something that's always been a question with Arch, which
is has he played enough? Has he got enough reps
enough to be able to come into a game like
this and be prepared and ready to go, And today
it didn't look that way. I think as you saw
their nice drive they had in the fourth quarter where
they went down and scored. He has that capability, right,
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but like to do it from the first snap all
the way throughout the game and be consistent with it.
This isn't Louisiana Monroe. This isn't the teams he's popped
in last year and played against, Like this is the
defending raining really good Ohio State football team, Like you're
not that red dot that he said that they were
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swinging to everybody else, My motherfucker must be broken or something,
because that did not look like the number one team
in the country today at all. And it was an
all time quote. I'm cool for it, but if you're
going to walk out like that with the GAT, you
better back it up.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
And the thing of what, look, everybody keeps saying that
he's a generator, Bro, We've got to start with this
generational stuff. Everybody is not generational just because they have
one or two good games. That doesn't do you understand
what the generation is? Do you understand what transcendent mean?
Do you know what transformative mean? We just be you,
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We just be using stuff because it sounds good. Stop
saying that he's not. He might be that. But if
you look at ars Man and you say he's transcend
he's a transformative, he's generational, you're lying he's not because
guess what, they shut down the run and then it's like, okay,
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go win the game. And like you said, Johnny, the
thing what happened is that when Ewards were hurt last
year and he's playing substandard teams and he looked really good, well,
they should go to Arch, they should go to ars
they should.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Go to Arts Bro.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
But when you go step up on Ohio State and
you face the Texas and you face the al Obama's no, bro,
that that's not good enough. That's not good enough, and
he's gonna have to be much better. Because if you
looked at him in his starts and when he's played
had to step up in competition, if you can look
at him and say, well he's generational, I just I've
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got to We've got different definitions of what generational isil.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
I mean, this is part of the media's fault.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Honestly, this is part of the media's fault and crowning
him a generation telling, crowning him the next big thing,
obviously because some of the games he played in last year,
he looked decent when he came in when Eras went
down and was hurt. But again, you come in week one,
you play against them boys, What.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Did Johnny say?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
A dog is gonna be a dog, regardless of circumstance,
regardless where there's week one, week two, or week three.
So now, sometimes things look funny in the light. Sometimes
things look funny in the light where the media has
propelled and been propped up an individual that there, this
generational talent is supposed to be the number one pick
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in the draft, and so we're expecting to see just that.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It was. It was, it was.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
It was a bad day.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
It was a bad day for us. It was a
bad day. I think he's gonna be all right. I
think he's gonna be all right. But base off what
we saw today, Nah, that that ain't it.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
That ain't it, Because I think they couldn't scored, They
couldn't even score it. They couldn't score. They couldn't run
the ball. So if they if you can't run the ball,
you can't score.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
And officer coordinator wants to be able to say, you
know what, I need you to win it with your arm.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
I need to win it with your arm, and they
couldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
What do you want to play?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Like? For football guys, especially you guys playing you know,
a tight end receiver position, one of the first things
you ever do is just mesh.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Texas runs a lot of mesh throughout this game, and
they're just those little for a quarterback, just easy little throws, completions, rolling,
just pitch and catch type of stuff. There's just so
many times throughout the game where he's just a little
off bound, like these are the ones where you step,
you cut them off, you lead them on right in front,
easy pitch and catch confidence boosters that Texas didn't really
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have throughout the day. And when you get stagnant and
you written there late in the third quarter, fourth quarter,
you have no points on the board, you keep coming
back to the sideline taking your helmet off, and you're like, damn,
we can't get anything going for arching. Those situations those
are the ones. You just have to go back to
the very basics of what you do day one. Install
whatever it is, take a little three step drop and
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just throw the shallow real quick. Whether it's bang bang,
get tackled or whatever. You got to build on some
momentum and be able to get yourself in a spot.
Because look, the talent is there. I think he will
get to a point where he's good enough. And this
is the thing that we've said all season. The media
puts a lot of hype on him. HiT's his turn.
You have the chance and every opportunity you want, everybody watching,
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all eyes are on you, go do it. So one
game is not make or break, but it's know the
true test to where Texas is and they are not
the number one team in the country, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, you wanted to show one more thing.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
It's rich really small. It's really small. Just watching the
game with arch managed today. Obviously, the receivers, the receivers
over there in Texas. It's supposed to be some boys
over there. It's supposed to be some dogs over there.
It's supposed to one of the players early in the
game where where our stroll interception and I'm looking they
but they got the bunch split right, they got the
bunch spit and in the dB, I mean the dB.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
The receiver.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
He got the seventh round, he got the round, but
the damn corners staying way upfield. He's staying high on
the inside shoulder. So the first thing you the first
thing you do, I'm like, well, what is the receiver doing?
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Man? Just break it off and running like deep ass
out man the dB the deep I mean, I don't
I don't know what. I don't know what the receiver
is doing. There was an interception, but I'm like, no,
arch through the ball in the right place. The receiver
got to know. Well, hell if the dB want to
keep running.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
To the goddamn pylon, I'm just break it off of
what fifteen eighty.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yards and just have a beach on catch. Yeah, And
this is stuff like that. If Arts is not playing well,
that means the receivers have to be on point on
the downside.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Help They got to be on point.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
They got help him out. You got to build them out.
In that situation.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
It didn't help that you're playing the number where you're
playing the team that won the national championship.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
The opening game on the road in their building.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
How we know what Ohio State represent, we know how
that crowd is, and they got they got an NFL
former NFL defensive coordinator coordinating that defense. Normally NFL defensive
coordinators when they go to college, they have a lot
of success because they can get really exotic and can
confuse because you know what, they can confuse NFL quarterbacks
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that's been quarterbacking for a number of years. At that level,
they should have some success against a college quarterback and
his real first true year of starting. So I'm gonna
give a little leeway, but there are some throws that
I expect him to make. If you're what they say
you are, it doesn't matter who you're playing, there are
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certain throws you should be able to complete, and we
didn't see enough of that today. But like you said,
this was the worst case scenario for arts starting on
the road, your first you know game as the true
leader on the road in the horseshoe. That's you're asking
for a lot. But we got to stop throwing around generational.
(35:27):
We just gotta just let's just calm down, let him play.
We want him to be Peyton and Eli Oh, he
gonna be number one overall. Pick just let him play.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I regree to say when you win, the way they
throw him around, the way they advertise him, the way
the media talks about him.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
So regardless of what.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
You're playing in the horseshoe, regardless of where you play
in Hio State, regardless to where this's week one, we
are expecting to see exactly what the media says you are.
But anyway, that's he didn't play well, he didn't play well.
I'm sure he'll re down next week. I'm not sure who.
I'm not sure who are Texas play Texans?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Joh, there we go, there we go.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Hey, listen, he might throw a seven hundred.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Well you a ideally, Johnny, you won't San Jose first,
then go to Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You you I want to get my fee a oh Joe,
I just don't want to.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
If you notice, guys, when they swim in, they put
the ward on the body they want, but they just
don't jump in cold. Hey let me Sometimes you know
they jumped down in there and get a little bird
bath on. But like I said, I just wanted the
people to just stop using that word. It seems like
every time we get a decent player. Oh he's, Oh,
he's he's he's a generational brother. Y'all need to understand
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what generational means, and I don't think you do because
it sounds good. Oh he's a generational talent, bro. I
mean his uncle was a generational talent that won at Tennessee.
Cam Newton was generational. We never said we didn't know,
oh man Cam. Oh he played Alabama or he played LSU.
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We didn't make no excuses for Cam. We didn't make
no excuse me for Peyton. But now we want to
make excuses cause remember when when Peyton couldn't beat Florida,
we made no excuses. So we're not finna make no excuses.
Now he's gonna have to play better in order for
Texas to get to where they want to go, he
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will have to play better. Johnay, let me ask you this.
Do you think with Patricia orchestrating that offense? Jeremiah Smith
Ojo didn't They did a great job of covering him.
You can see the frustration that it started the bill.
They're gonna put three guys on him. Do you think
they should be title favorites again? To repeat Johnny Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah, I think so. I think you're gonna see that
the way they're gonna defend Jeremiah Smith all year, you're
gonna get a lot of that. He's gonna be extremely frustrated.
But at the same time, that should let wide receiver two,
wide receiver three, and even a running back out of
that team be foaming at the mouth for the opportunities
they're going to have at the backside of some of
these plays and some of these schemes, because as they
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go on, I think Ohio State is extremely well coached
and Patricia leading that defense. I think it's exactly what
you said. Having a guy who's been in the NFL
for so long being able to come back and do
this at the college level, should be able to put
in some different different looks, Like he's sitting there watching
film and it's such a different look from everything that
he's accustomed to in the past, and just has to
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be sitting there with a plethora of ideas of what
he can bring to it. And as long as you
have a good experienced group of people in that room
and guys who are all together communicating it, that really
is you can put all this stuff in in college.
You just have to have the right guys to be
able to do it. So it looks so far after
what you've seen today, and granted it's only Week one
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and we're in a college football era now where you
can lose twice, maybe even three times and still go on,
you know, to get into the playoff and be a
national champion. So yeah, it's hard to not you don't
want to overreact too much after after Week one, but
Ohio State has a really good team. We'll see if
the QB play can continue to expand throughout the season,
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because that's what it really comes down to.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Another thing too, when it comes to Jeremiah Smith. They
got to be more They got to be more creative.
They understand the stat line he had last year when
they played against Texas.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
It wasn't that good. So what do you do.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
You're coming with a game plan. You come with a
game plan to move Jeremiah Smith around. You don't just
have him on the outside to the left. You don't
just have him on the out side to the right.
You put him in motion. You can then susplic forcing
the DBS to get off. There's so many have him
coming out the backfield. It's so many ways of getting
the ball. What do Yeah, I know, I know he
has some drops today, but he's the best player on
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the field by far, on either team.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
It doesn't matter. So there's so many things you can
do with him to make sure you can get him
in rhythm and get him going. There are no excuses,
no excuses.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
All I'm saying is this, I don't give it, damn.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Jeremih Smith got a trench coach, a disguise, a mustache
and a hat. That guy in the disguise and the
mustache and hat.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
He not beating us. So I don't give it. Damn.
What you do with it. You can put him in
the backfield. You can butch it, you can stack it.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I don't care where you put it. Somebody else beat me.
He not beat me, because you know why, I know
he can beat me. I'm not sure these other guys can.
So I don't care what you do with it.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Bout Joe.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
You can have it back there looking like Expector Gadget
with a trench coat and everything. He ain't beat me.
So I'm just saying. I'm just saying, the guy with
the trench coach coach, he ain't. Nobody don't worry about it.
You cover at nobody and you help him over the
top of that nobody. Johnny Marcel Reid threw a career
high four touchdowns as the nineteenth rank Aggie's roll over
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in a season opener forty two twenty four over ut
San Antonio. Casey conception had a touchdown reception return the
plump for another score in Texas A and M debut. Johnny,
is this the year for your y'all? Y'all want to
do something? Man?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I try to sit here and not jinxas, not try
and put too much. It isn't common late of the
sec run right. We still got to go see everybody.
But look, I think last year, whenever Marcel comes in
against LSU that second half of that game last year
and does what he does, unbelievable. Ability to be able
to run the football as a quarterback and be able
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to move like that, has great speed. The one thing
that we've been waiting for with him is really to
see him expand the passing game, move the ball downfield.
I think at the end of last season we were
one very one dimensional. We know we're going to be
able to run the ball, and that's what we want
to be able to do, but for him to be
able to come out in the season opener, have four touchdowns,
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be twenty two or thirty four. I spoke to him
probably three or four weeks ago, and I was watching
a lot of stuff and routes on air and just
seeing certain things, and I was kind of like just
looking at it, and I didn't exactly love what I
was seeing, be honest. So like I was in the
UK somewhere and I pick up the phone I called him,
and I'm like, man, I got to drop this little
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tip on you that me and Mike Evans started working
on after our first offseason, where you just, like in
routes on air and you're running down the field, just
get your receivers to stick their hand up and stare
at that middle finger, like just stare at the middle
of their finger the whole time with your eyes and
start to train your eyes that when you don't even
need to see the ball release out of your hand
or anything, but just start staring at fingertips and just
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start starting to give him a little bit of some
things that I think will be able to help him,
because if he develops his passing game, the sky is
the limit for us. We have a good defense, solid
run game. I like what Elko's doing. But it's too
early to say against the UTSA team that this is
our year. But we'll see. We got a Notre Dame
(42:50):
game coming up pretty soon. That'll it'll be a good
test for us that we didn't play very good against
last year.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Y'all did have a give a guy one hundred and
seventy seven yards on sixteen carries with two touchdowns, Johnny,
So you can't be pleased with that. One of those
was seventy five yards, so you can't be too.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Pleased with that.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Sure, but I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Read like, we know he got legs, but in order
to take your game. So if you're trying to take
your game to the next level and they know you
got it's your arm. It's that Lamar went to another
level once his arm started catching up with his legs,
Josh Allen, when his arm started catching up with his legs.
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Patrick Mahomes had the arm and now mahon boy put
that thing up in his arm and tuk it. He
tuck it and take off on you. And they're like,
hold on, wait a minute. You ain't never show that,
don't worry about it. You see it notto. And so
that's what Reid if he wants to get to that
next level he wants to be in Texas, say, and
then what Johnny football was, He's gonna have to be
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able to throw it Johnny consistently.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
It's hard.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I don't believe now, at any level, maybe high school,
that you can just win with a running quarterback. He's
gonna have They're gonna force you to throw it. They're
gonna force you to throw it.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
At the end of the day. Always you can always
stack the box, put a bunch of people up there,
man up and say, you know that fade route doesn't
always get beat off the line of scrimmage, and you
just see him over the top and you let it go.
Sometimes you're gonna have the back shoulder. You're gonna have
to put it in different areas. You're talking about the
corner earlier being high over the top and you got
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to throw him flat. These are a lot of things
you have to learn, and you learn in the college
game as a passer. The one thing about Marcel Reid
is when people were asking me about him this offseason,
I go, what he needs to do in the off
season is go work nothing but half line routes on
air and just see different half line coverages, half side
of the field coverages, see what it looks like, and
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just get more use to game rep speed of zone
and coverage looks. And I think, look, it's a it's
a great start. He needs to continue to be able
to throw the ball because we're going to see teams
you know this year on A and M schedule. We'll
see it in two weeks versus Notre Dame where they're
gonna load it up. Make sure we can't run it.
You're gonna have to go make some plays with your
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arm or you're gonna be stagnant.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
You got to you gotta throw the football to win
in today's game the way it is, you got to
throw the football to win. But you gotta be happy
with that. Johnny, we gonna get you out of here
on this one. This clip from your Glory Days podcast
is gone viral. Let's show the chat.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Oh boy. In my draft class, the Browns had two picks.
With the sixth pick, we took Justin Gilbert from Oklahoma State.
Oh yeah, and I get the most wave of shit
for being a bust in this and that I wasn't
even the biggest in respect to Justin Gilbert. I loves
him as a human being, but we both flamed out.
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We both struggled, and he went fourteen fifteen, sixteen picks
before me, So like, I'm not even the biggest bust
in my class from the Browns, Damn Johnny.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
And I was feeling some type of way that day
Cleveland clear, Julie, Hello, y'all killing me? But what about
the guy that with top top team?
Speaker 3 (46:16):
I mean I wanted to be in that pick, Like
that's if we were talking about going to Cleveland. I
wanted to go to Cleveland at six. I wanted to
go to Cleveland or whatever the pick was. Like, if
you're gonna send me to Ohio, at least send me
with twenty million instead of eight, Like what the fuck?
Damn all love it doesn't go over look. I think
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you know, from from a Brown's draft perspective from that year,
you know, Joel Batonio is still playing and doing well
for Cleveland right right now. But uh, all around, miss
you know, I think I will always be looked at
and viewed at because of how much hype and uh,
you know, media and everything that was around me in
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the city of Cleveland expecting me to be great and
not ultimately not panning out. Listen, you know I sit
here today and I go back and forth with man,
am I gonna let Cleveland off the hook and just
like let it go? Or Am I gonna sit here
with hate and animosity in my heart for the rest
of my life? And I finally sit here today, I'm like,
fuck it. I think I'm gonna be pissed at them
(47:19):
and hate them forever.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
So it is what.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
It is. What it is, Man, no love for the Browns.
I'm rooting fer O and sixteen seasons every season, Damn John.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Let me ask you this as you sit here today
and after all the things you've gone through. We sat
down a little over a year ago and we had
a conversation. You had a great conversation, and I think
a lot of people got an opportunity to see you
in a different light, knowing what you know. Now you're
back in that situation, but you know what you know now?
What would you have done differently? Would you have done
anything different leading up to the draft? Would you have
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done anything different in college? What are some of the
things that Johnny would have done differently to make sure
this outcome that we're talking about never happened.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Look, there was a moment in time, and we spoke
about it on the podcast. Was you know after that
Oklahoma Cotton Bowl game, you know, things changed for me
and I went from Johnny Manziel to Johnny Football, And like,
looking back on it now and people ask me if
you could go back in time and do it differently,
there is that split moment in time, like in the
locker room after that game, where my focus would have
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shifted to let's get to the National championship the next year,
Let's get to San Diego and start training again, and
like get ready and geared up for this season because
we got Mike Evans returning. We got a bunch of
guys on this team who can come back and make
a real run. And that's one thing that just never
sits right with me to this day, just like the
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untapped potential of the whole thing and the real opportunity
if I want to see Texas A and M win
a national championship, well that was a real, real opportunity
for us, and it just didn't come to fruition. And
you know, I sit here today and a lot of
people will hear me speak and as I I tell stories,
and you know, I'm doing the podcasting stuff. You know,
(49:04):
people will always be like, you know, I'm blaming stuff
on other people, or I'm not accountable or anything like that.
But listen, at the end of the day, everything that
I've got in my life and that's happened to me
throughout my football career is only because of one person,
myself and the decisions that I've made as a man
in this life. So was Cleveland the best situation for
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me to go to? Did they help me knowing all
the things that they knew about me, with all the
research and everything. Did they put me in the best situation?
Absolutely not. It was not the right situation for me.
But when it comes down to it, you take all
of that aside, you throw it away, and you look
in the mirror and you say, I've led an amazing
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opportunity slip. It's on me. I'm the one that has
to sit with myself every single night as I watch
college football or watch NFL football and be like, damn,
I would be in my twelfth year, I would be
x Y and Z. I'm the one that has to
lay my pillow down, lay my head on the pillow
every night and be like that could have, would have,
should have, but it wasn't. And at the end of
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the day, a lot of my life as I've been
out of football, it's been like, what am I going
to be able to do, to find a spark, to
be able to be happy, to be able to give
me something like football did give me? And you know what,
maybe it wasn't meant to be for me. I didn't
put in the time and the effort and determination that
you need to be great that both of you guys
did for the sport, and that was just maybe my stupidity,
(50:31):
my youth or what it was meant to be. But nevertheless,
you know, I take accountability for everything and what it is.
You know, I really didn't harm anybody other than myself
when it's all said and done. So you know we're
still sitting here today, rocking, rolling happy. We're on the
Nightcap Show now baby, every Saturday. That's what I'm talking about, Johnny.
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Did it come too easy? Did football come too easy
to you? You look at what you did, you went
down to and you became a household name. Everybody knew
who you were after you went in there and did
what you did to coach Sap.
Speaker 7 (51:07):
It does football come to eat it for you after that?
And I don't know, I think I started to. You
start to get a little bit of ego on the
football field, right. You start to see what you're doing
in practice and how you're playing and like making certain
throws and the scrambling where you like, you're just doing
certain things that are just like jumping off the page
and you're noticing them too. So it gives you a
(51:28):
It gives you a bravado and a confidence. And when
people on a college football field, I think this is
why I wanted to go to the NFL so bad,
because as I'm going and playing on Saturdays, I'm like,
these dudes can't fuck with me like they are.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
They really can't. They want to. And even guys who
are good from opposing teams, you'll come up to each
other after the game and they'll be like, damn you,
you're everything we thought you were going to be. You're cold.
So like, as you're getting respect from your peers on
this level too, it does heighten your sense. It does
give you a sense of ego and bravado, and you know,
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you add the social media wave and and and you know,
at that point in time, Sports Center every single night
and you're you're taking over the world. You know, it
does make you feel invincible. So I know there was
a lot of hard work that went into everything that happened.
And the reason that I played as well as I
did on the field is because I did work my
ass off from the time I was in high school
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to college and it all played itself out. I think
you start to see the down you know, the downslide
and everything else when the hard work takes itself out.
So you know, that's what I always tell kids nowadays
who ask me and look at my story and look
at everything. It's like, listen, I had all the talent
in the world. You can go run a go route,
put your hand up and have a guy draped over.
You'll drop it in the bucket. You can go meet
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me in the A gap and really think you have
me covered a tackle and I'll mix you out of
your shoes. But when it comes down to it got
to you've got to work hard, and you got to
consistently do it day in day out even when you
don't want to. And if you don't want to do it,
guess what, there's somebody right next door or somewhere else
that wants to take your spot and wants to trade
places with you. And look what happened to me.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
You know.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
The NFL is a game where you get replaced like.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
This, Johnny, thanks for joining us tonight. Welcome to the team.
Make sure you go subscribe to Johnny's podcast on YouTube,
Glory Days with Johnny Manziel.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Johnny, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
Man. We'll see you next week. Bro, have a good
time and joy all right, bro? Yep, that's Johnny Manziel,
Ladies and gentlemen. He will be joining us. He will
be our special guest on Saturdays during the college football
season and in the college football playoffs. So thank you
Johnny for joining us. Enjoy the rest of your time.
He's away. I mean it's five o'clock in the morning
(53:45):
where he's at. It's six thirty now.
Speaker 5 (53:49):
Rea, So.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
He's a Milan.
Speaker 5 (53:52):
That's who. Look that's what I got on too. Oh okay, Timmy,
you know what this is.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
No, I don't ross smith Man. I don't know who
that is.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
Don't know who that is?
Speaker 2 (54:16):
You for real? Are you just playing? Man? I ain't
the off. Even if you're not a.
Speaker 6 (54:24):
Soccer fishonado, you gotta know who Ronald Dano is. The
great I know who. I know who he is. I
know he's a Brazilion. I have seen him.
Speaker 4 (54:34):
Okay, okay, okay, I don't want to I don't want
to give you Okay, just don't don't upset me.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
I saw him play. I saw cock Cock, I saw Blake. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
The Lane football we're all green uniforms with black hell
with blank green helmets. Today to recognize the twenty year
anniversary of Hurricane Katrina. Green Wave head coach some Aw
said the program was set to honor the victims even further,
but to Lane's requests to Northwestern to wear white jerseys,
which is what program wore the first game after Katina
(55:10):
was declined. After the game, coach said, I'm not trying
to take a shot, but we requested to wear white
jerseys because that's what the team wore.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
It got denied. That's their prerogative.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
But when you disrespect the city of New Orleans, that's
what's going to happen to you. You're going to get
run to a team that had a chip on their shoulder.
We might have used that for a little motivation to
represent the city. Don't disrespect the city of New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
But.
Speaker 5 (55:41):
Expect New Orleans. Man, what you talk about.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yeah, I've been watching that documentary.
Speaker 4 (55:48):
Man, I didn't see the documentary.
Speaker 5 (55:52):
It's tough for me to sit through that.
Speaker 4 (55:57):
It would be tough for me to sit through that
and have to watch that and realizing this is this
affected people's lives. People had to uproot, people lost their lives.
And the fact that the response and knowing it was coming,
and the response and people in positions of power coming.
Speaker 5 (56:16):
To help not being what it should have been. You know,
I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't stomach that.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
Yeah, I haven't gotten all the way through it, but
they have people that was you know, little girl, I
think she was probably fourteen at the time, and she's
telling the story now about her and guys was telling
the story how his grand his granddaughter, she went under,
never saw again, his mother went under. I never saw again.
I can't do that that. I was like, oh my goodness,
I mean you know you saw it. I mean, you
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know you. You saw it from a distance, but to
hear people share their stories and to see all these people, man,
it almost seems surreal. It doesn't seem real, like something
like this can happen. Ain't no way something like this
could have happened. Wait a minute, and then we have
the response that we I was.
Speaker 4 (57:05):
Just getting ready to say that we talk about America,
we talk about a catastrophe of that magnitude, do you understand?
Depending on depending on what it is, on how important
something is. You mean we can resolve another country's issues
in a week's time, and you mean to tell me
you can't go down now to the boot.
Speaker 5 (57:26):
It makes sure. Man, don't get me started. Man, don't don't, man,
don't get me started.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
It was it was the perfect storm Oho, because you
think about you got Lake Poncha train on the front,
you got the Mississippi River on the back, and you've
got a city that's below sea level. That water gotta
go somewhere, and you got a category long nive with
wins pushing one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty hundred
and seventy miles an hour Poncha train to the front,
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Mississippi to the back. And you're below sea level. That
water gotta go somewhere. That's where it's going.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
Mm hmmm, where they don't have babies now. It ain't
going to the oak, it ain't going over there. Yeah,
over here.
Speaker 5 (58:12):
It's funny, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Hm h
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Have Johnny Manziel who will be joining us during the
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is Glory Days with Johnny Manziel. All right, let's get
into it right now. The game that just went off,
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LSU the number Tigers, number nine, number time, number nine.
Excuse me, LSU Tigers go on the road into first
time in a long time. You've had two death valleys.
That's what Clemson called their home death Valley. That's what
LSU calls their home death valley. So one death valley
went into the other death valley. So number nine, LSU
(03:46):
go on the road take down the number four Clemson
Tigers by the score of seventeen to ten. Gary Nussmyer
played extremely was johnn I thought he played really well
in the second half. He calmed down, he showed a
lot of poise, a battle back, and they got to
win a very tough fault victory. Normally, early on in
the season, these are the type of games LSU normally
(04:07):
lose it. And you see opening they lost the Florida
State they got blown out, and then they lost the
year before that, they got beat. Now, LSU showed me
a little something going on the road in an extremely
hostile environment, the number four team in the country and
getting a win. That was very, very impressive. Johnny, let
me ask you this, what did you like about what
you saw from LSU?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I mean, I think you look at a lot through
the game. You see it was kind of stagnant there
for a while where nothing was really happening. It's kind
of just kicking it back and forth waiting for something
to happen. But they stayed patient and that's myred finally
got things going a lot better in the second half.
They have the turnover in the first half that really
killed a lot of momentum. But one of these kind
of slugfest games that when you go on the road,
you never really know how you're going to win these
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and get these done. But when you look at the
end of the day, you want to have this win,
and I think they just found a way to get
it done in the second half. Nothing too like overwhelming,
overpowering or anything like that, but just to solid, you know,
one touchdown win.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh Joe, what'd you like about what you saw from LSU?
Considering these are the type of games. We talked about
that Brian Kelly has seemingly lost early in the season
and finding a way to win a game like this.
You know, when you beg on the road and you
beat the number four team in the country, it doesn't
matter if it's seventeen team, if it's seventeen sixteen, if
it's eleven, differ if it's four to three, you won long.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
As long as you get to win. Listen, LS you
played extremely way. I think the beginning of the game.
It was very stagnant as a very defensive game. Obviously,
most of the time when it comes to college football,
even NFL, the defense is always ahead of the offense
because all they have to do is read and react
and it takes time for offenses to get rolling. And
what I did see from LSU and I.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Didn't see enough of.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Let me tell you what I didn't see enough of
unk of LSU is being wide receiver university. LSU to
me is now wide receiver university. I don't see that dog.
I don't see that one year out there that can
make a difference for LSU, and I don't see that
for Clemson. Needs there are another university that produces some
good vide receivers.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I haven't seen anybody emerge.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Actually, honestly, were talking about not just this game, the
entirety of the day throughout college football. Those that I
thought are supposed to step up, those that have always
been on my radar as really really good receivers.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Nobody, really, what's the word looking for?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Nobody?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, nobody, nobody. Especially this game tonight. I was really
looking forward to to seeing somebody for LSU to make
a difference in the game, somebody for Clemson to make
a difference in the game. But that didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It was more of a defensive defensive slug fest, and
the points that were scored they were earned.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Every point was earned the night.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I think LSU will look back on this game, and
if the Seeds they go and have the type of
season that I think guys they want to have, they'll
definitely look back at this game. Anytime you can go
on the road in a hostile environment, and this is
not Clemson's number four team in the country. They have
the number three rated overall prospect. He happened to be
a quarterback n Klubnick and to go in there and
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to get that win.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think that tells you.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I think Brian Kelly learns something about his team tonight, Johnny.
I think he really have I really think he has
a team now that he believes that he can take
it anywhere in any environment and get a victory.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Look, this is a playoff team Clemson from last year,
same quarterback, coming back, a lot of the same pieces.
So you got to feel like early in the season,
you know, this game has been scheduled on their you know,
bulletin board for the whole offseason. They knew what they
were coming into to play. And like we said earlier,
this is a game LSU normally doesn't come out and win,
so for them to do that has to make them
feel really good about themselves. I don't see anything in
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Clemson's game that they should feel too down on. You know,
you obviously want to win this game, but going through
the ACC and the schedule that they have, they'll be fine.
I think they need to continue to have club Nick
run the ball as he did a couple times there,
to extend some drives and do some certain things. But listen,
everything's going to go through that guy number two for Clemson,
and if he doesn't put a touchdown on the board.
(08:00):
You know, they're usually not going to come out with
a win in that situation.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, LSU had to play well. They showed up with
T shirts with one and zher on it. When you
on the road, Johnny and O Joe, when you show
up on on the road with against the number four
team in the country and you're wearing T shirts and
you already got one to oh boy, you better come
out there. Well, you better come on out there and play.
And they played. They played that second half, they really
(08:24):
dominated it. They really dominated this game. Like I said,
like Johnny, you were twenty eight to thirty eight, two
thirty one touchdown, not overpowering. He didn't have a three
hundred yard day, he wasn't seventy plus percent completion percentage,
but he was solid. He made big time throws when
he absolutely had to have him to get a drive,
tie the ball game up, and then he goes down
(08:45):
and get the go ahead touchdown. He was very, very impressive,
and I think Brian Kelly has to be impressed with
this team. Defensively, they started getting out the club Nick
and once they started to put that pressure on, they
brought a blimpse. The guy a linebacker looped around on
fourth and for and they turned them over on downs.
But lu u, this was an impressive win. Now you're
gonna look at it. Texas is in the SEC. Uh,
(09:08):
Georgia is in the SEC. There are no look, there
are no They're not gonna be any cakewalks. I mean
even Vandi Belt say, hold on, hold on, We're not
We're not your homecoming now. You know, vander Belt used
to be here, Johnny.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
First game of the season was homecoming Vandi Belt. On
the schedule, vander Belt was like ten home comings the season. Hey,
everybody's thinking, hey, I'm going to pass my stats.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Hey, hey the party of the night. I need, I
need to shine. But the s the SEC is gonna
be very, very tough. Uh, Clemson, I agree with you, Johnny.
The acc that look that not ain't a whole lot
that right home.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
The team that we're about to talk about a little bit,
Florida State, they showed us something that constantly he showed.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
He showed us something today.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Hey, Florida State on a Johnny, I don't know what
Florida State team we saw today, but they look really good,
not only offensively, which has really been stagnant for a
very long time.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
But defensively they came to play earl a little junior.
Is that earl little son?
Speaker 6 (10:17):
I think so it is been so hey boy, he nice, Hey,
he is nice.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
He nice.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
He was playing some good guy. Damn ball at that boy.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So we go go ahead and get to that one.
We're goingead talking about that, Okay. Florida State pulls the upset.
Unranked Florida State takes down the number eight team in
the country. Tod fuot pressure on Todd Simpson pretty much
all day. He was pressured on sixteen to fifty one dropbacks,
one of ten for thirty yards with three sacks. When pressure,
Simpson was not on the same prage as Ryan Williams,
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who left the game late.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
With a concussion.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Simpson was just five or eleven when targeting him all
three on passes, throwing more than five yards down the field,
chailing the I was, I was thinking to myself, Johnny
and Ocho. I was like, man, look here, I understand,
and there's not a college coach that's gonna be coach Saban.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But you can't. You can't.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
He's lost to four unranked teams in fourteen games. Coach
Saban was there damn near two decades and he might
have lost four unranked teams in his whole tenure. And
I was like, man, they might get rid of killing
the boar. But I looked at that buyout. He has
a seventy million dollar buyout. They ain't got them deep
parties like y'all got Johnny down in Texas, A and
(11:32):
M where y'all got a Jimbo up out of there
for seventy seven million. They ain't got pockets like that.
So so o' cho, let bask you this. You watched,
you watch Alabama. Coach Saban's not walking through that door
anytime soon. Okay, Coach Saban's not walking through that door ever. Yeah,
when you look at Alabama, they don't even look the same.
(11:53):
They don't have the same swagger. They don't even take
the field to.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Save well, you got to understand, of course, it don't
look the same. This is what we're seeing now. When
Saban was there, This was pre.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
N I l uh.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
This was pre n Il Nil came along, and even
the scoreboard all the way across, so all the talent
and the players that used to go to Alabama where
everybody would go and have to wait in line. They
got received after the receiver, after receiver, quarterback after quarterback,
after quarterback, running back after the running back, at the
running back, everybody going all over the place because teams
have money and players don't want to sit and wait
(12:25):
behind anybody else. They want to play right now, money talks,
which is one of the reasons why Nick Saban left
because the even the playing field has even where the
level of talent is scattered across everywhere where. Now most
of the part coaching comes into play, and coaching is
that much more important? Is that much more important now?
(12:46):
Because Florida State today, I'm not going to say they
embarrass all they embarrassed Alabama, but I guarantee you a
lot of people, a lot of people, especially if you gamble,
I guarantee you had Alabama to win.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
I guarantee you had Alabama to win.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Johnny, what you think, what didn't you like about what
you saw from Alabama? And what did you love about
what you saw from the Seminoles?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I mean, I think Castelano's for Florida State jumped off
the page and every aspect of everything you know, you
look at what they did. He only threw the ball
nine times. That's super effective. To be able to go
put thirty one points up and you only throw the ball,
you're only nine to fourteen for one hundred and fifty two.
That's efficient. The one thing that I will say that
I think in the path you walk fac an Alabama team,
(13:35):
you probably got a little fear. This is Bama, the
team that's been a dynasty, the team you got a
little fear. That fear aspect of what Alabama is is
completely gone. And nobody's scared of them boys, not Vandy,
not Kentucky, not nobody. Nobody's walking in and seeing Alabama
on the schedule and having any kind of shake, any
kind of fear. Nothing. They've been getting wiped the last
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couple of years. You say that buyouts deep, but like
they're not going to sit here and let this stand
for sure. They'll go find it in New Woods somewhere.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
They absolutely will.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Because I was thinking the same thing what they said
about Jimbo, because prior to Jimbo, the biggest college buio
was Gus Mozan when he got twenty one million to
leave Auburn, and basically you tripled damn near quadruple that
with this buyout for Jimbo.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
But you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
When you're Alabama and you've had to expect and you've
done what you've done six national championships, you lost another
two tabs in the championship game, you're damn there. They
called it the Alabama Invitational because Alabama was in it
every year and people had them with a chance to
win it every year. You can't count Alabama out. You
can't count Alabama out. But likes you said, Johnny, nobody
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fears Alabama anymore. And when you don't, that's half the battle.
It's fear. That's one of your biggest strength. There's another
man's fear where they don't have that anymore. And I'm
looking at Alabama, oh Joe, they ain't got the same
level of talent.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
When you look at you look at the running backs,
it was mark Ingram and Trent Richardson and this one
and that one. And you look at and Jarry Gabry
and Jamier Gibbs and this one and that one. You go,
you go look at the wire receivers. You went to
Julio and Ridley and Cooper and this one and that one,
and Judy get him back, and you look at the quarterbacks,
You look at those big d linemen that used to have.
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You look at the DB's they don't have that no more.
They just have guys now. Ain't nobody When do you
watch the game, Johnny, and you played against them? When
if we can you honestly say you watched an Alabama team.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It ain't nobody jump off the page at you. Ain't
nobody Like damn.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Since the Georgia game last year where Ryan Williams did
his thing and absolutely went crazy, just kind of one
player stand out where you're like, Okay, this guy is
a level of talent of Alabama that we're a customer.
Seen everything else. You may see a splash or a
dash here or there, but you're not seeing it consistently
weekend and week out like you're accustomed to.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And the funny thing too, uncle is I said something
about for me obviously being a receiver, and thinking about
college football and thinking about all the players have been
promoted and advertised as supposed to be you know them boys,
and me saying like nobody popped out to me on
film today and people and people in the chest.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Saying it's only week one, Yeah, week one. Yes, it's
week one. That's the whole point.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You allowed to pop out just because it's week one, that.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
You can't what do we talk about it's only week one.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yes, that's when you actually pop out and you show
off when you're playing against the top talent, you're playing
against the good teams. These are the games you're supposed
to pop out because you're trying. When you get to
the next level. Every week, it's the same thing. Every
week you play at NFL. It's them boys, you play
against them boys. So I'm expecting. I was expecting. I
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was expecting maybe maybe coaches want to call conservative games,
maybe didn't want to feature the players that we've all
been been noticing on commercials and seeing over and over
and over. So maybe maybe next week, maybe the week after,
I don't know. At some point the games of the
day were okay. The Alabama Alabama and Florida State game,
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to me, was probably the best and the most exciting
with the Clemson.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
The Clemson game followed after that.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
But there's one more game we haven't talked about yet
that was the absolute snooze fest.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I'll wait till we get there.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But when I look think about Alabama. The one thing
Alabama could do was stop the run. You know, Coach Saban, Johnny,
you had to throw. The thing that gave coach Saban
problem has always given coach Saban problems, the dual thread
quarterback and the guy that could pass the football. You
go back and look when they lost to Oklahoma. Trevor Knight,
I think that was his name. You look at what
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he did to them in the Sugar Bowl. He stood
back there and he threw the ball. Now, the thing
that gave him the most problem is a dual threat quarterback,
a guy that could throw the ball and run. You
look at Johnny. You look at Johnny Manziel, You look
at DeShawn Watson. You look at guys that Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You look. Damn, you're so happy if you're talking about
two guys.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Wasn't the Hodsman Trophy one guy with one of the
better quarterbacks in the NFL before the injuries and things
off the field took places, you see, but they got
ran on forty nine times for two thirty.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Coach, you don't run on Bama. Bama, don't let you run.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
They stuffed your they stuffed your run, and then they
go hunt your quarterback. They can't really hunt the quarterback.
They really can't consistently stop the run. And constall Liianos
was doing whatever he wanted to do. Like you said, Johnny,
extremely efficient in the passing game, only through the ball
fourteen times. But when you can and you know guz Mosahan,
you know what he wants to do. He wants to
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run the football. He wants to give you a lot
of misdirection. He's gonna run Jets week, He's gonna run
your quarterback. He's gonna run his quarterback. That's what he does.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Florida State almost lost, not almost lost that game, but
almost letting them boys back in the game too. After
the second half, that second half and third quarter, every
everything started being conservative. Everything started consertative that the three
and outs given given Alabama the ball back, allowing them
to have a chance to get back into the game. Now,
if it was the old Alabama or a team that
was a little bit more competent and the fishing with
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the ball, hell, Alabama could have came back and win
that game. With as conservative as Florida's plate Florida State
played in that second half.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
What old Alabama would have been behind like that go ahead, Johnny, No.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I think I think you look at what Alabama wants
to do. In the past, they would always say, listen,
we're gonna go man on man. We're gonna take our
best versus your best, and we're gonna lock you down.
Times like we said in the past, where they've you know,
had success against an Alabama has been when you know
they're running man coverage, running down the field and the
quarterback's able to escape, to contain and be able to
get out. But this is a team that just doesn't
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even resemble that, Like we're going to put our best
corner against your best receiver and body them and throw
them out of bounds and bully them up, or you know,
we're gonna take our best edge rusher and just absolutely
mop you all day long. You don't, you're not used to.
And an Alabama team get pushed around, especially in the trenches.
Gotta be concerned.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
And yeah, and plus they can't run the ball like
they Houston. You know, Alabama get them hogs up and
I'm looking at the offensive line they go six seven
three forty six seven three twenty six six. I'm like,
bro y'all big for no reason why the hell you
that big if you k blocked, if you ain't moving though,
Oh Joe, you got to move forward to you that big,
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I said, y'all that big and kve block the sun
that giants? I said, Well, damn, ain't ain't no sense
of being Ain't no sisan being that big if you
ain't gonna move something, Yeah, I'm like, what damn?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Twenty nine rushes for eighty seven yards, Oh Joe, twenty
seven rushes.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Eighty nine yards three.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yards can look good on up to about all three
levels up front, second level, and the secondary. I really
want to know, chat. I don't know if you guys
know if you remember Earl Little that played for the
Cleveland Browns, is that his son little Junior?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Hey, he was all over. He was about the DV
earl one.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
To North Miami down here in Miami, that man, I
think boy.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Nick Saban coach two hundred and thirty games at Alabama.
He had four losses to unranked teams during his stretch.
Caitlin de Boor has coached fourteen games, and he just
lost his fourth game to an unranked team since two
thousand and seven in games in which Alabama was favored
by at least fourteen points. Coach Saban is one thirty
one and two. Kaylyn de Boor is four and four.
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They get you up out of there. You don't want
to be the man. You don't want to be the
man to follow the man. You want to be the
man that followed the man that followed the man. So
I want to be the guy that came after the
guy that followed Coach Saban. I don't want that pressure.
You don't want to follow coach Bryant. You don't want
to follow a Nick Saban. You don't want to follow
one of those the Barrett Sweats or those air procedures,
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one of those those mythical coaches. You want to be
the guy that followed the guy that followed him. Because
now that's what I'm going to forget, because I've got
some separation between me and coach Saban. I've got separation
between me and one of these historic, great, great coaches.
The question that I have for you, Johnny, is that
do you believe the ni L would be the death
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of the SEC.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
No? I don't think so. I think the South will
only the SEC in that conference will only find a
way to work around it and do what they need
to do. There's too much money there, there's too much
in these collectives to be able to make it, to
make it successful. I think we'll see some more. I
think we'll see different programs, different teams. Yes, same Georgia, Alabama,
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the same couple of little pockets of teams that have
been winning for the SEC. So I think it'll give
them some disparity in that regard. But you know, for
the most part, I think the SEC is aligned for
or whatever moves forward in the college football in iol landscape,
whether it's getting to bigger conferences where we only have
three big conferences throughout the country or four or whatever
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it may be. I think the SEC can keep accumulating teams,
more teams and end up being, you know, the biggest conference,
sixteen twenty teams. You know, it's all said and done,
and this stuff kind of plays itself out.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
O Joe, what you're thinking, because you look at Underwood,
we might think we might touch on him. You get
Larry Ellison, one of the top three richest men in
the world.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
He underwrites it.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You get Dave poyn Or from Barstool, You get a
Tom Brady says, hey, I'll personally help you out and
mentor you and coach you.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And you give a kid an eighteen.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Year old twelve and a half billion dollars, say, come
on down, here's what we got for you. It's hard
when you got these deep pocket donors. You get a
team like an Oregon, and you got Nike, and you
got those that Bill Night dollars, and you get all
those uniforms, and so now it ain't no no Dods Chargers,
it ain't no Challenger. These guys got Ferraris, Johnny, these
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guys got Lambos, these drives, these guys driving clingings and
McLaren's at eighteen nineteen year olds.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, listen, hey, the landscape has changed. Landscape, like I said,
I said, it even the playing field. And I think
it's good. I think it's good for the players. I
think it's good for the players because not only are
you able to obviously get money for planning.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Support you love, you're able to help your family out.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
You're able to help your family early as long as
you can stay focused and understanding that you got this
money as just a jumpstart for your bigger dream, for
your bigger goal, but making it to that next level
where the real money is. As long as you can
lock in, stay focused, and do what you need to do.
I think I like it because, like Johnny said, it
adds some disparity obviously to college football in general and
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even the playing field where everybody gets the talent instead
of one or two or three or just three teams
getting everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You're right, because they're sure. It sure seems that way now.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
It doesn't look like I mean and not look, Alabama
still get five star recruits, but they don't look like
the five stars they normally get. It's seemingly Ohio State
are getting those guys now, and they're like you said,
I mean, if they're twenty five thirty five star, Alabama's
getting one or two where they normally have two running backs,
two wide receivers, three D linemen, two old linemen, a
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corner uh, the number one, the number two or three
dual threat.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Those guys don't look like the same caliber player that
they want normally once have had had.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
And I think you got the right question two.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
And Johnny Alco had to help me out. When it
comes to these stars and whoever is rating.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Them, yes, from the people that's supposed to be these
four and five stars. When the lights were bright tonight,
when the lights were bright today, in general, the stars
come out.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
The stars didn't come out.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
At all.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Well, and that's the thing what you alluded to, you
say when people you you tweeted what you tweeted, and
people say, we yanna uh, they said, oh cho, Well
is just the first game. It doesn't matter if you
if you are who you say you are. First game,
second game, third game, first quarter, second quarter, third quarter,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
And I didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You're like a pitbull on a leash when this first
game comes up. You're you're sitting.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
There, thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You know, you've got bang bank phase going across the
middle and you can't touch each other, and you're running
by and you're barking. This is what you're doing all
training camp. You're bake blowing stuff up. You have the
sacks with you'd be like if that was in a game,
we tore your ass up. That's what you're doing them
all spring and all training camp. So now you're leash.
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This is your time to run for yes, first time
on the field. Maybe in front of the lights. Yeah,
that could hit you a little weird a couple of spots,
but when it comes down to it, a dog is
a dog and it's time to be off the leash
or oh.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Archi.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Manning struggled in his debut against Ohio State. With scouts
and more than a dozen NFL teams watching, including nearby
Cleveland Brown, Manning was inconsistent. He completed seventeen to thirty
passes one hundred and seventy yards, one touchdown to an interception,
a very underwhelming day for a player some has paid
the number one pick in the twenty twenty six NFL Draft, Johnny,
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is this a side of things to come?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Or we just saying it's just one star eight Let's
not make too much of it.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I mean, listen, I think as an overall, as a
player like they, this is one of the things you
start early in the season. And I was talking to
Jake Spavatal, who is my offensive coordinator my second year.
He plays at Baylor. I'm talking to him about the
game the night before, and he's just like, fuck, man,
we can't run the ball. And there's certain things early
on in the season where you need more reps and
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more game reps and more live speed reps. And this
is something that's always been a question with Arch, which
is has he played enough? Has he got enough reps
enough to be able to come into a game like
this and be prepared and ready to go, And today
it didn't look that way. I think as you saw
their nice drive they had in the fourth quarter where
they went down and scored. He has that capability, right,
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but like to do it from the first snap all
the way throughout the game and be consistent with it.
This isn't Louisiana Monroe. This isn't the teams he's popped
in last year and played against, Like this is the
defending raining really good Ohio State football team, Like you're
not that red dot that he said that they were
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swinging to everybody else, My motherfucker must be broken or something,
because that did not look like the number one team
in the country today at all. And it was an
all time quote. I'm cool for it, but if you're
going to walk out like that with the GAT, you
better back it up.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
And the thing of what, look, everybody keeps saying that
he's a generator, Bro, We've got to start with this
generational stuff. Everybody is not generational just because they have
one or two good games. That doesn't do you understand
what the generation is? Do you understand what transcendent mean?
Do you know what transformative mean? We just be you,
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We just be using stuff because it sounds good. Stop
saying that he's not. He might be that. But if
you look at ars Man and you say he's transcend
he's a transformative, he's generational, you're lying he's not because
guess what, they shut down the run and then it's like, okay,
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go win the game. And like you said, Johnny, the
thing what happened is that when Ewards were hurt last
year and he's playing substandard teams and he looked really good, well,
they should go to Arch, they should go to ars
they should.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Go to Arts Bro.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
But when you go step up on Ohio State and
you face the Texas and you face the al Obama's no, bro,
that that's not good enough. That's not good enough, and
he's gonna have to be much better. Because if you
looked at him in his starts and when he's played
had to step up in competition, if you can look
at him and say, well he's generational, I just I've
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got to We've got different definitions of what generational isil.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
I mean, this is part of the media's fault.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Honestly, this is part of the media's fault and crowning
him a generation telling, crowning him the next big thing,
obviously because some of the games he played in last year,
he looked decent when he came in when Eras went
down and was hurt. But again, you come in week one,
you play against them boys, What.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Did Johnny say?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
A dog is gonna be a dog, regardless of circumstance,
regardless where there's week one, week two, or week three.
So now, sometimes things look funny in the light. Sometimes
things look funny in the light where the media has
propelled and been propped up an individual that there, this
generational talent is supposed to be the number one pick
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in the draft, and so we're expecting to see just that.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It was. It was, it was.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
It was a bad day.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
It was a bad day for us. It was a
bad day. I think he's gonna be all right. I
think he's gonna be all right. But base off what
we saw today, Nah, that that ain't it.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
That ain't it, Because I think they couldn't scored, They
couldn't even score it. They couldn't score. They couldn't run
the ball. So if they if you can't run the ball,
you can't score.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
And officer coordinator wants to be able to say, you
know what, I need you to win it with your arm.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
I need to win it with your arm, and they
couldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
What do you want to play?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Like? For football guys, especially you guys playing you know,
a tight end receiver position, one of the first things
you ever do is just mesh.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Texas runs a lot of mesh throughout this game, and
they're just those little for a quarterback, just easy little throws, completions, rolling,
just pitch and catch type of stuff. There's just so
many times throughout the game where he's just a little
off bound, like these are the ones where you step,
you cut them off, you lead them on right in front,
easy pitch and catch confidence boosters that Texas didn't really
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have throughout the day. And when you get stagnant and
you written there late in the third quarter, fourth quarter,
you have no points on the board, you keep coming
back to the sideline taking your helmet off, and you're like, damn,
we can't get anything going for arching. Those situations those
are the ones. You just have to go back to
the very basics of what you do day one. Install
whatever it is, take a little three step drop and
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just throw the shallow real quick. Whether it's bang bang,
get tackled or whatever. You got to build on some
momentum and be able to get yourself in a spot.
Because look, the talent is there. I think he will
get to a point where he's good enough. And this
is the thing that we've said all season. The media
puts a lot of hype on him. HiT's his turn.
You have the chance and every opportunity you want, everybody watching,
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all eyes are on you, go do it. So one
game is not make or break, but it's know the
true test to where Texas is and they are not
the number one team in the country, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, you wanted to show one more thing.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
It's rich really small. It's really small. Just watching the
game with arch managed today. Obviously, the receivers, the receivers
over there in Texas. It's supposed to be some boys
over there. It's supposed to be some dogs over there.
It's supposed to one of the players early in the
game where where our stroll interception and I'm looking they
but they got the bunch split right, they got the
bunch spit and in the dB, I mean the dB.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
The receiver.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
He got the seventh round, he got the round, but
the damn corners staying way upfield. He's staying high on
the inside shoulder. So the first thing you the first
thing you do, I'm like, well, what is the receiver doing?
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Man? Just break it off and running like deep ass
out man the dB the deep I mean, I don't
I don't know what. I don't know what the receiver
is doing. There was an interception, but I'm like, no,
arch through the ball in the right place. The receiver
got to know. Well, hell if the dB want to
keep running.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
To the goddamn pylon, I'm just break it off of
what fifteen eighty.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yards and just have a beach on catch. Yeah, And
this is stuff like that. If Arts is not playing well,
that means the receivers have to be on point on
the downside.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Help They got to be on point.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
They got help him out. You got to build them out.
In that situation.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
It didn't help that you're playing the number where you're
playing the team that won the national championship.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
The opening game on the road in their building.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
How we know what Ohio State represent, we know how
that crowd is, and they got they got an NFL
former NFL defensive coordinator coordinating that defense. Normally NFL defensive
coordinators when they go to college, they have a lot
of success because they can get really exotic and can
confuse because you know what, they can confuse NFL quarterbacks
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that's been quarterbacking for a number of years. At that level,
they should have some success against a college quarterback and
his real first true year of starting. So I'm gonna
give a little leeway, but there are some throws that
I expect him to make. If you're what they say
you are, it doesn't matter who you're playing, there are
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certain throws you should be able to complete, and we
didn't see enough of that today. But like you said,
this was the worst case scenario for arts starting on
the road, your first you know game as the true
leader on the road in the horseshoe. That's you're asking
for a lot. But we got to stop throwing around generational.
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We just gotta just let's just calm down, let him play.
We want him to be Peyton and Eli Oh, he
gonna be number one overall. Pick just let him play.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I regree to say when you win, the way they
throw him around, the way they advertise him, the way
the media talks about him.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
So regardless of what.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
You're playing in the horseshoe, regardless of where you play
in Hio State, regardless to where this's week one, we
are expecting to see exactly what the media says you are.
But anyway, that's he didn't play well, he didn't play well.
I'm sure he'll re down next week. I'm not sure who.
I'm not sure who are Texas play Texans?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Joh, there we go, there we go.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Hey, listen, he might throw a seven hundred.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Well you a ideally, Johnny, you won't San Jose first,
then go to Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You you I want to get my fee a oh Joe,
I just don't want to.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
If you notice, guys, when they swim in, they put
the ward on the body they want, but they just
don't jump in cold. Hey let me Sometimes you know
they jumped down in there and get a little bird
bath on. But like I said, I just wanted the
people to just stop using that word. It seems like
every time we get a decent player. Oh he's, Oh,
he's he's he's a generational brother. Y'all need to understand
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what generational means, and I don't think you do because
it sounds good. Oh he's a generational talent, bro. I
mean his uncle was a generational talent that won at Tennessee.
Cam Newton was generational. We never said we didn't know,
oh man Cam. Oh he played Alabama or he played LSU.
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We didn't make no excuses for Cam. We didn't make
no excuse me for Peyton. But now we want to
make excuses cause remember when when Peyton couldn't beat Florida,
we made no excuses. So we're not finna make no excuses.
Now he's gonna have to play better in order for
Texas to get to where they want to go, he
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will have to play better. Johnay, let me ask you this.
Do you think with Patricia orchestrating that offense? Jeremiah Smith
Ojo didn't They did a great job of covering him.
You can see the frustration that it started the bill.
They're gonna put three guys on him. Do you think
they should be title favorites again? To repeat Johnny Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah, I think so. I think you're gonna see that
the way they're gonna defend Jeremiah Smith all year, you're
gonna get a lot of that. He's gonna be extremely frustrated.
But at the same time, that should let wide receiver two,
wide receiver three, and even a running back out of
that team be foaming at the mouth for the opportunities
they're going to have at the backside of some of
these plays and some of these schemes, because as they
(38:11):
go on, I think Ohio State is extremely well coached
and Patricia leading that defense. I think it's exactly what
you said. Having a guy who's been in the NFL
for so long being able to come back and do
this at the college level, should be able to put
in some different different looks, Like he's sitting there watching
film and it's such a different look from everything that
he's accustomed to in the past, and just has to
(38:34):
be sitting there with a plethora of ideas of what
he can bring to it. And as long as you
have a good experienced group of people in that room
and guys who are all together communicating it, that really
is you can put all this stuff in in college.
You just have to have the right guys to be
able to do it. So it looks so far after
what you've seen today, and granted it's only Week one
(38:54):
and we're in a college football era now where you
can lose twice, maybe even three times and still go on,
you know, to get into the playoff and be a
national champion. So yeah, it's hard to not you don't
want to overreact too much after after Week one, but
Ohio State has a really good team. We'll see if
the QB play can continue to expand throughout the season,
(39:15):
because that's what it really comes down to.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Another thing too, when it comes to Jeremiah Smith. They
got to be more They got to be more creative.
They understand the stat line he had last year when
they played against Texas.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
It wasn't that good. So what do you do.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
You're coming with a game plan. You come with a
game plan to move Jeremiah Smith around. You don't just
have him on the outside to the left. You don't
just have him on the out side to the right.
You put him in motion. You can then susplic forcing
the DBS to get off. There's so many have him
coming out the backfield. It's so many ways of getting
the ball. What do Yeah, I know, I know he
has some drops today, but he's the best player on
(39:47):
the field by far, on either team.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
It doesn't matter. So there's so many things you can
do with him to make sure you can get him
in rhythm and get him going. There are no excuses,
no excuses.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
All I'm saying is this, I don't give it, damn.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Jeremih Smith got a trench coach, a disguise, a mustache
and a hat. That guy in the disguise and the
mustache and hat.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
He not beating us. So I don't give it. Damn.
What you do with it. You can put him in
the backfield. You can butch it, you can stack it.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I don't care where you put it. Somebody else beat me.
He not beat me, because you know why, I know
he can beat me. I'm not sure these other guys can.
So I don't care what you do with it.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Bout Joe.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
You can have it back there looking like Expector Gadget
with a trench coat and everything. He ain't beat me.
So I'm just saying. I'm just saying, the guy with
the trench coach coach, he ain't. Nobody don't worry about it.
You cover at nobody and you help him over the
top of that nobody. Johnny Marcel Reid threw a career
high four touchdowns as the nineteenth rank Aggie's roll over
(40:48):
in a season opener forty two twenty four over ut
San Antonio. Casey conception had a touchdown reception return the
plump for another score in Texas A and M debut. Johnny,
is this the year for your y'all? Y'all want to
do something? Man?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I try to sit here and not jinxas, not try
and put too much. It isn't common late of the
sec run right. We still got to go see everybody.
But look, I think last year, whenever Marcel comes in
against LSU that second half of that game last year
and does what he does, unbelievable. Ability to be able
to run the football as a quarterback and be able
(41:23):
to move like that, has great speed. The one thing
that we've been waiting for with him is really to
see him expand the passing game, move the ball downfield.
I think at the end of last season we were
one very one dimensional. We know we're going to be
able to run the ball, and that's what we want
to be able to do, but for him to be
able to come out in the season opener, have four touchdowns,
(41:45):
be twenty two or thirty four. I spoke to him
probably three or four weeks ago, and I was watching
a lot of stuff and routes on air and just
seeing certain things, and I was kind of like just
looking at it, and I didn't exactly love what I
was seeing, be honest. So like I was in the
UK somewhere and I pick up the phone I called him,
and I'm like, man, I got to drop this little
(42:07):
tip on you that me and Mike Evans started working
on after our first offseason, where you just, like in
routes on air and you're running down the field, just
get your receivers to stick their hand up and stare
at that middle finger, like just stare at the middle
of their finger the whole time with your eyes and
start to train your eyes that when you don't even
need to see the ball release out of your hand
or anything, but just start staring at fingertips and just
(42:29):
start starting to give him a little bit of some
things that I think will be able to help him,
because if he develops his passing game, the sky is
the limit for us. We have a good defense, solid
run game. I like what Elko's doing. But it's too
early to say against the UTSA team that this is
our year. But we'll see. We got a Notre Dame
(42:50):
game coming up pretty soon. That'll it'll be a good
test for us that we didn't play very good against
last year.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Y'all did have a give a guy one hundred and
seventy seven yards on sixteen carries with two touchdowns, Johnny,
So you can't be pleased with that. One of those
was seventy five yards, so you can't be too.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Pleased with that.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Sure, but I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Read like, we know he got legs, but in order
to take your game. So if you're trying to take
your game to the next level and they know you
got it's your arm. It's that Lamar went to another
level once his arm started catching up with his legs,
Josh Allen, when his arm started catching up with his legs.
(43:34):
Patrick Mahomes had the arm and now mahon boy put
that thing up in his arm and tuk it. He
tuck it and take off on you. And they're like,
hold on, wait a minute. You ain't never show that,
don't worry about it. You see it notto. And so
that's what Reid if he wants to get to that
next level he wants to be in Texas, say, and
then what Johnny football was, He's gonna have to be
(43:56):
able to throw it Johnny consistently.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
It's hard.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I don't believe now, at any level, maybe high school,
that you can just win with a running quarterback. He's
gonna have They're gonna force you to throw it. They're
gonna force you to throw it.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
At the end of the day. Always you can always
stack the box, put a bunch of people up there,
man up and say, you know that fade route doesn't
always get beat off the line of scrimmage, and you
just see him over the top and you let it go.
Sometimes you're gonna have the back shoulder. You're gonna have
to put it in different areas. You're talking about the
corner earlier being high over the top and you got
(44:28):
to throw him flat. These are a lot of things
you have to learn, and you learn in the college
game as a passer. The one thing about Marcel Reid
is when people were asking me about him this offseason,
I go, what he needs to do in the off
season is go work nothing but half line routes on
air and just see different half line coverages, half side
of the field coverages, see what it looks like, and
(44:50):
just get more use to game rep speed of zone
and coverage looks. And I think, look, it's a it's
a great start. He needs to continue to be able
to throw the ball because we're going to see teams
you know this year on A and M schedule. We'll
see it in two weeks versus Notre Dame where they're
gonna load it up. Make sure we can't run it.
You're gonna have to go make some plays with your
(45:10):
arm or you're gonna be stagnant.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
You got to you gotta throw the football to win
in today's game the way it is, you got to
throw the football to win. But you gotta be happy
with that. Johnny, we gonna get you out of here
on this one. This clip from your Glory Days podcast
is gone viral. Let's show the chat.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Oh boy. In my draft class, the Browns had two picks.
With the sixth pick, we took Justin Gilbert from Oklahoma State.
Oh yeah, and I get the most wave of shit
for being a bust in this and that I wasn't
even the biggest in respect to Justin Gilbert. I loves
him as a human being, but we both flamed out.
(45:51):
We both struggled, and he went fourteen fifteen, sixteen picks
before me, So like, I'm not even the biggest bust
in my class from the Browns, Damn Johnny.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
And I was feeling some type of way that day
Cleveland clear, Julie, Hello, y'all killing me? But what about
the guy that with top top team?
Speaker 3 (46:16):
I mean I wanted to be in that pick, Like
that's if we were talking about going to Cleveland. I
wanted to go to Cleveland at six. I wanted to
go to Cleveland or whatever the pick was. Like, if
you're gonna send me to Ohio, at least send me
with twenty million instead of eight, Like what the fuck?
Damn all love it doesn't go over look. I think
(46:37):
you know, from from a Brown's draft perspective from that year,
you know, Joel Batonio is still playing and doing well
for Cleveland right right now. But uh, all around, miss
you know, I think I will always be looked at
and viewed at because of how much hype and uh,
you know, media and everything that was around me in
(46:57):
the city of Cleveland expecting me to be great and
not ultimately not panning out. Listen, you know I sit
here today and I go back and forth with man,
am I gonna let Cleveland off the hook and just
like let it go? Or Am I gonna sit here
with hate and animosity in my heart for the rest
of my life? And I finally sit here today, I'm like,
fuck it. I think I'm gonna be pissed at them
(47:19):
and hate them forever.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
So it is what.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
It is. What it is, Man, no love for the Browns.
I'm rooting fer O and sixteen seasons every season, Damn John.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Let me ask you this as you sit here today
and after all the things you've gone through. We sat
down a little over a year ago and we had
a conversation. You had a great conversation, and I think
a lot of people got an opportunity to see you
in a different light, knowing what you know. Now you're
back in that situation, but you know what you know now?
What would you have done differently? Would you have done
anything different leading up to the draft? Would you have
(47:55):
done anything different in college? What are some of the
things that Johnny would have done differently to make sure
this outcome that we're talking about never happened.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Look, there was a moment in time, and we spoke
about it on the podcast. Was you know after that
Oklahoma Cotton Bowl game, you know, things changed for me
and I went from Johnny Manziel to Johnny Football, And like,
looking back on it now and people ask me if
you could go back in time and do it differently,
there is that split moment in time, like in the
locker room after that game, where my focus would have
(48:23):
shifted to let's get to the National championship the next year,
Let's get to San Diego and start training again, and
like get ready and geared up for this season because
we got Mike Evans returning. We got a bunch of
guys on this team who can come back and make
a real run. And that's one thing that just never
sits right with me to this day, just like the
(48:43):
untapped potential of the whole thing and the real opportunity
if I want to see Texas A and M win
a national championship, well that was a real, real opportunity
for us, and it just didn't come to fruition. And
you know, I sit here today and a lot of
people will hear me speak and as I I tell stories,
and you know, I'm doing the podcasting stuff. You know,
(49:04):
people will always be like, you know, I'm blaming stuff
on other people, or I'm not accountable or anything like that.
But listen, at the end of the day, everything that
I've got in my life and that's happened to me
throughout my football career is only because of one person,
myself and the decisions that I've made as a man
in this life. So was Cleveland the best situation for
(49:25):
me to go to? Did they help me knowing all
the things that they knew about me, with all the
research and everything. Did they put me in the best situation?
Absolutely not. It was not the right situation for me.
But when it comes down to it, you take all
of that aside, you throw it away, and you look
in the mirror and you say, I've led an amazing
(49:45):
opportunity slip. It's on me. I'm the one that has
to sit with myself every single night as I watch
college football or watch NFL football and be like, damn,
I would be in my twelfth year, I would be
x Y and Z. I'm the one that has to
lay my pillow down, lay my head on the pillow
every night and be like that could have, would have,
should have, but it wasn't. And at the end of
(50:08):
the day, a lot of my life as I've been
out of football, it's been like, what am I going
to be able to do, to find a spark, to
be able to be happy, to be able to give
me something like football did give me? And you know what,
maybe it wasn't meant to be for me. I didn't
put in the time and the effort and determination that
you need to be great that both of you guys
did for the sport, and that was just maybe my stupidity,
(50:31):
my youth or what it was meant to be. But nevertheless,
you know, I take accountability for everything and what it is.
You know, I really didn't harm anybody other than myself
when it's all said and done. So you know we're
still sitting here today, rocking, rolling happy. We're on the
Nightcap Show now baby, every Saturday. That's what I'm talking about, Johnny.
(50:54):
Did it come too easy? Did football come too easy
to you? You look at what you did, you went
down to and you became a household name. Everybody knew
who you were after you went in there and did
what you did to coach Sap.
Speaker 7 (51:07):
It does football come to eat it for you after that?
And I don't know, I think I started to. You
start to get a little bit of ego on the
football field, right. You start to see what you're doing
in practice and how you're playing and like making certain
throws and the scrambling where you like, you're just doing
certain things that are just like jumping off the page
and you're noticing them too. So it gives you a
(51:28):
It gives you a bravado and a confidence. And when
people on a college football field, I think this is
why I wanted to go to the NFL so bad,
because as I'm going and playing on Saturdays, I'm like,
these dudes can't fuck with me like they are.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
They really can't. They want to. And even guys who
are good from opposing teams, you'll come up to each
other after the game and they'll be like, damn you,
you're everything we thought you were going to be. You're cold.
So like, as you're getting respect from your peers on
this level too, it does heighten your sense. It does
give you a sense of ego and bravado, and you know,
(52:04):
you add the social media wave and and and you know,
at that point in time, Sports Center every single night
and you're you're taking over the world. You know, it
does make you feel invincible. So I know there was
a lot of hard work that went into everything that happened.
And the reason that I played as well as I
did on the field is because I did work my
ass off from the time I was in high school
(52:25):
to college and it all played itself out. I think
you start to see the down you know, the downslide
and everything else when the hard work takes itself out.
So you know, that's what I always tell kids nowadays
who ask me and look at my story and look
at everything. It's like, listen, I had all the talent
in the world. You can go run a go route,
put your hand up and have a guy draped over.
You'll drop it in the bucket. You can go meet
(52:45):
me in the A gap and really think you have
me covered a tackle and I'll mix you out of
your shoes. But when it comes down to it got
to you've got to work hard, and you got to
consistently do it day in day out even when you
don't want to. And if you don't want to do it,
guess what, there's somebody right next door or somewhere else
that wants to take your spot and wants to trade
places with you. And look what happened to me.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
You know.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
The NFL is a game where you get replaced like.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
This, Johnny, thanks for joining us tonight. Welcome to the team.
Make sure you go subscribe to Johnny's podcast on YouTube,
Glory Days with Johnny Manziel.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Johnny, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
Man. We'll see you next week. Bro, have a good
time and joy all right, bro? Yep, that's Johnny Manziel,
Ladies and gentlemen. He will be joining us. He will
be our special guest on Saturdays during the college football
season and in the college football playoffs. So thank you
Johnny for joining us. Enjoy the rest of your time.
He's away. I mean it's five o'clock in the morning
(53:45):
where he's at. It's six thirty now.
Speaker 5 (53:49):
Rea, So.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
He's a Milan.
Speaker 5 (53:52):
That's who. Look that's what I got on too. Oh okay, Timmy,
you know what this is.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
No, I don't ross smith Man. I don't know who
that is.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
Don't know who that is?
Speaker 2 (54:16):
You for real? Are you just playing? Man? I ain't
the off. Even if you're not a.
Speaker 6 (54:24):
Soccer fishonado, you gotta know who Ronald Dano is. The
great I know who. I know who he is. I
know he's a Brazilion. I have seen him.
Speaker 4 (54:34):
Okay, okay, okay, I don't want to I don't want
to give you Okay, just don't don't upset me.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
I saw him play. I saw cock Cock, I saw Blake. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
The Lane football we're all green uniforms with black hell
with blank green helmets. Today to recognize the twenty year
anniversary of Hurricane Katrina. Green Wave head coach some Aw
said the program was set to honor the victims even further,
but to Lane's requests to Northwestern to wear white jerseys,
which is what program wore the first game after Katina
(55:10):
was declined. After the game, coach said, I'm not trying
to take a shot, but we requested to wear white
jerseys because that's what the team wore.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
It got denied. That's their prerogative.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
But when you disrespect the city of New Orleans, that's
what's going to happen to you. You're going to get
run to a team that had a chip on their shoulder.
We might have used that for a little motivation to
represent the city. Don't disrespect the city of New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
But.
Speaker 5 (55:41):
Expect New Orleans. Man, what you talk about.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yeah, I've been watching that documentary.
Speaker 4 (55:48):
Man, I didn't see the documentary.
Speaker 5 (55:52):
It's tough for me to sit through that.
Speaker 4 (55:57):
It would be tough for me to sit through that
and have to watch that and realizing this is this
affected people's lives. People had to uproot, people lost their lives.
And the fact that the response and knowing it was coming,
and the response and people in positions of power coming.
Speaker 5 (56:16):
To help not being what it should have been. You know,
I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't stomach that.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
Yeah, I haven't gotten all the way through it, but
they have people that was you know, little girl, I
think she was probably fourteen at the time, and she's
telling the story now about her and guys was telling
the story how his grand his granddaughter, she went under,
never saw again, his mother went under. I never saw again.
I can't do that that. I was like, oh my goodness,
I mean you know you saw it. I mean, you
(56:47):
know you. You saw it from a distance, but to
hear people share their stories and to see all these people, man,
it almost seems surreal. It doesn't seem real, like something
like this can happen. Ain't no way something like this
could have happened. Wait a minute, and then we have
the response that we I was.
Speaker 4 (57:05):
Just getting ready to say that we talk about America,
we talk about a catastrophe of that magnitude, do you understand?
Depending on depending on what it is, on how important
something is. You mean we can resolve another country's issues
in a week's time, and you mean to tell me
you can't go down now to the boot.
Speaker 5 (57:26):
It makes sure. Man, don't get me started. Man, don't don't, man,
don't get me started.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
It was it was the perfect storm Oho, because you
think about you got Lake Poncha train on the front,
you got the Mississippi River on the back, and you've
got a city that's below sea level. That water gotta
go somewhere, and you got a category long nive with
wins pushing one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty hundred
and seventy miles an hour Poncha train to the front,
(57:52):
Mississippi to the back. And you're below sea level. That
water gotta go somewhere. That's where it's going.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
Mm hmmm, where they don't have babies now. It ain't
going to the oak, it ain't going over there. Yeah,
over here.
Speaker 5 (58:12):
It's funny, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Hm h
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