Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Jerry Jeudy has NO WORRIES about the Ravens + Lavonte David joins

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eleven am Eastern Time. That's Monday, Tuesday and Friday at
eleven a m. Eastern time. Oh Joe Yo. Judy gave
to Baltimore Ravens some bulletin bored material head between two rivals.
Judy was asked asked by reporters, what challenges do the
Ravens secondary present. Judy responded, No challenges.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Absolutely none.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
It is just a post saying what you expected me
to say. Hey, I got a question for you and everybody.
I know it's early, were just starting to show. Do
me a favor, do a background check. Where in Jerry Judy.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
From uncle, oh, he from the bottom.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Listen all the challenges we had. It started we was kids,
We was in junior high. Our circumstances, our upbringing, we
done made it to the NFL. Now, ain't no challenges.
We go out there and do what we always do.
We play ball. We play football and base on what
we saw from the back end where the Ravens have
to offer.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
It ain't no challenges.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Thank you. You took the word right up about bible
o joke. They did give up three hundred and ninety
four passing yards. They gave up damn the two hundred
and fifty in the fourth quarter long, So what challenges
do he see?

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Talk to me, nice, come on that.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Hey, this oxtail, this os this neck bone, this this collar,
greens match and jee torn bread, sweet teeth.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's what are you looking at that second?

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Dary matter of fact, don't forget to dessert.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh yeah, what you want banana pudding, sweet potato pot man.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Ain't nothing I'm gonna tell you, and I'm listen. I
know the game of football. I'm not I'm not a genius.
I can't predict the future. But I know one thing
that the Cleveland Brown do very well is they stopped
to run very well. They have a phenomenal front for
so I don't think I don't see Derrick Henry, you know,
being able to do some of the things that he's
done on most teams because the personnel the Cleveland Browns

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are built to stop the run.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Hey, Jered Judy gonna have a day?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
He should raved two hundred and forty four yards passing
the last season that was second worse than the NFL.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Come on, now, well that dead lands right now this season,
so they kind of picked up where they left off. Yes, sir, Now,
I heard Kyle Hamilton say, we talked about this. I
heard Marlon Humphrey saying, you know, our mentality is not
where it needs to be. So Jared Judy is looking
like what challenges did y'all see this Sunday night? Johsh
Chap First of all, quarterback had all day to throw.

(06:02):
Second of all, he gave up two I mean they
average two forty four game.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
They gave up two fifty to the fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
A long, nasty work.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
So I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I mean, look, we think the Baltimore Ravens is only
one game, but their past defense leaves a lot to
be desired. This notion that you cannot throw the ball
on them is just not true, y'all.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Might be talking about the Ravens offense.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Now that was the If you to ask Miles Garrett
or you to ask Denzel Ward what a problems do
that offense post, they might have a different response because
you gotta deal with Lamar Jackson, you gotta deal with
a Dad Henry and you got Zay Flowers. Okay, that's
a whole different issue. But defensively to Baltimore, that's not

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the two thousand Ravens. That's not Rod Woolson, that's not
Ray Lewis, that's not a Sarah Goosey rest his soul.
That's not Big saying Robernette Peter bowl where. That's not
Mike mcquarie, that's.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Not them at the fact they haven't been there for
a while, their idea even on the defensive side of
the ball anymore. Now they have some good players, Yes,
there's that make that make really good plays at times,
but the identity for the Baltimore Ravens is now shifted
to the offense. Correct that running back, that quarterback, that
special quarterback that they do have. Yes, Jerry Judy said

(07:23):
exactly what he's supposed to say. What you wanted to say.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Oh, yes, they pulled a challenge. No, absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
He not Jerry Judy is not a quarterback. He's not
going to say all the right things. He's not going
to be politically correct when you ask him a pacific
question about in position on his opponent the next upcoming Sunday.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
That's not what he does.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Come on now, I mean I would like to say, oh,
but y'all want me to lie to send my soul
to hell from something trivilers that I will go to
hell because I lied, and say, oh yeah, they pose
a problem.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
They can get after your quarterback. Man, Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
He a call his wife for the phone, say hey, babe,
you know I'm gonna be running little late, so go
ahead and give me some of that General Joe Chicken,
some of that MUMU got paying and.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
That shrimp fried rice. Get that for me.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'll be home, baby. I thought you was at the game.
Ah yeah, baby, I'm just back here chilling. I mean,
they ain't They ain't even close to me yet.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah yeah, come on.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
Now.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Look, we think the Ravens, oh Joe, we think the
Ravens win. It's all said done. They're gonna be one
of the teams in the FC. We believe there'll be
one of the team that makes the playoffs. But you
ask him a question after he just watched the team
come back with almost four minutes left down by fifteen.
They didn't get they didn't come back down by fifteen
under four minutes to go running the foot by a

(08:40):
running the football.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, yeah, the team threw it.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah, So hold on, hold on, hold on. How many
points they scored in four minutes?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
They scored six?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
They scored they was down fifteen, So they' scored like,
it's called twenty two points in the second quarter and
the fourth quarter alone.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, it's called twenty eight in the second half.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Hold did they do that by running the ball or
throwing the throwing it? Okay, okay, I can't.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Make sure we get this right. How many yards did
Josh Allen throw for in the fourth quarter? He threw
for more than two hundred. Now, they gave up two
forty four per game, which was second worst in the NFL.
That's what we know that that is not conjectured, that's
not in you in those that's not speculation.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
That is factual information.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
And then then people will argue, people will argue where
they were playing the Bills they were playing the Bills.
They're not playing the Bills this week. They gave up
an averager two forty four point one. Last year every
game they played wasn't the Bills. Exactly there we go,
can't close, can't close. I wish they had a gabble
real quick.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Duck and and if that was the case, Kyle Hamilton
wouldn't said. We talked about this all off season. We
talked about that coming into the season. What are you
talking about? Being able to get off the field, being
able to stop the pass? That's what you talked about.
Marlon Humphrey talked about the mentality.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
So I see people in the chat talk about something.
I know you ain't talk about the raven defense when
the Bengals defense.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Sorry, two fifty one. We'll address that at an appropriate time.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Right now. We did it with you. See.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I don't go, hey, o Joe, I don't go to
a cancer a convention and talk.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
About what about diabetes?

Speaker 1 (10:18):
When I go to that diabetes convention, I'll talk about
diabetes right now.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yes, we had the American Cancer Society. So I'm gonna
deal with the cancers.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I'm gonna deal with prostate and bladder and all those
other types of cancers.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I'm going with chat.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Y'all know how we do we be We're fair with this,
even though a lot of times you don't like what
Ocho and I might have to say. We try to
be as fair as possible. Y'all know the Ravens defense
isn't very good.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
You know it.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
But again, but again, I'm giving every team grace. I'm
giving every team grace because it's week one. As the
season goes on. As the season progresses, team yell a
little bit. The chemistry and which they play, Yes, counity,
the cohesion. It's of defenses, Yeah, will get better as
well as offenses. So I listen, I'm basing everything what

(11:06):
you're saying. Jerry Judy and his comments saying that he
had no challenge is based on.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
What he saw last week.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
The provers that are putting off, So based on what
the Ravens gave up defensive last year.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Correct? Correct? That is correct? That is correct.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
So with that being said, I don't think you know, look,
I get it. Everybody say, you know you be politically correct.
You don't give anybody any extra motivation. So let me
get this straight. If I don't say anything, they're gonna
forfeit the game and give us the win.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
So whether I say a little or lock, we still
got a damn play.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Yeah, Yeah, was definitely so.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Jerry Judy now he just goes out there, does what
he does, and but they need to generate more pressure
than what they generated on Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Now it's different.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Maybe because you're you're scared because if you you run
past Josh Allen, you're don't jump out the window he got.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, you're not worried about that.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
With Joe Flacco, so there's a good chance they'll probably
bring more pressure on Flacco than they would with Josh
Allen because you don't want to want to run the
risk of Josh Allen, you know, putting on his high
step high step is shoes and getting up out of
it on you. So I think that's more. You know,
they posed two different types of situations. It's the same
way with Lamar. You know, I want to put pressure

(12:24):
on Lamar because I don't want him halftime, but I
already know if I run past.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
Him, he gone.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
And the last thing I want to have do is
for five guys running down field with their back to
Lamar Jackson and he got the ball tup and he's
already passed a lot of scrimmage. So it's gonna be
very very interesting to see how this thing plays out. Look,
there's no love loss. The Ravens are the old Cleveland Browns. Yeah,
and now we got the new Cleveland Browns, and there's

(12:51):
no love lost between these two organizations. Obviously, mister Modell
when he left, he took the Ravens. They became the ball.
He took the Browns that became the all the more Ravens.
And this is where we are right now. We got
a very very special guest joining us, Harry.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Pro bowler, All Pro Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Champion, A many many of your vent with the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers. Harry is Levonte, David Levonte, how you doing, bron.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
You know, if I had your hands, I cut mine off.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Man.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
That's about it, Levont.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
That was a very That was a very tough game.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
You guys have you go down there and you take
the lead, and now all of a sudden you get
Atlanta coming back the other way. You're like, damn, we
cannot give up a touchdown. We can't give up a
touchdown In worst case scenario, we go into overtime, but
we are not about to little this game in regulation.
So when you come on the feeling a situation like that,
you know the only thing that can beat you is
a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
What is your thought process?

Speaker 6 (13:51):
Yeah, man, I think the whole thing is just like
I don't want to be in a like to piggyback
on what you were saying. Man, we had the same
situation going on in Russia. You know when we play
them that Thursday night, same situation. We go up, they
need a field goal and at that moment and then
like at the same thing, man, we we don't want
to give them a touchdown. We don't want to give
them a touchdown. Adverse, we can make kick a field

(14:11):
goal and go overtime. We like our chances. But in
that moment, man, all I just trying to say, just man,
stay calm. You know what I'm saying, Stay calm, and uh,
somebody just got to make a play at the end
of the day, you know what I'm saying, Like, we
don't want to give up no chunks, you know, the
typical cheap deep you know what I'm saying, They stay focus,
keep everything in front of you. Somebody make you get

(14:33):
the ball in bounce, you know, tackle them. Everybody got
a rally and everybody just got to be on the
same page.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
Man.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
Like I've been in part of a lot of situations
where it happened in the other and the other way around.
So you know what I'm saying, I don't.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (14:45):
I hate that feeling to being part of being part
of that stuff.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
So you know, I feel like we got a team
that kind of like understand that for the most part.

Speaker 7 (14:53):
So you know, uh, we liked our.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Chances and we was able to do that. You know,
they took a couple of shots towards the end and
uh landed in our favor.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Hey, how's how's the state of the team right now?

Speaker 4 (15:02):
One thing you always want to do as a team,
you want to start fast, not only start fast, but
to get it a visional win against the opponent early off,
to get that to get that out the way.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
How's the team feeling? I know you guys probably had
practice day with it being Wednesday. How's it right?

Speaker 7 (15:17):
The feeling everybody good? Man?

Speaker 6 (15:19):
You know, I feel like everybody you know, we got
we had an extra day to day because we played
this week so yeah, so we had to a little
extra dattle.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Easy day.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
Easy, Yeah, you had a little easy day. Both know
how to work in those days for us, but uh,
it was it was love to day. Man.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
All we did was just kind of getting ahead start
on Houston. But uh, man, to ask you a question,
you know it's big.

Speaker 7 (15:42):
It's big. You know, the chatter about you.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
Know, who's going to win the Vision whatever, Us or
Atlanta has been in the back and forth thing. But
for us to get the upper hand for the first
game of the year, it was real big. You know,
we know they're a tough point. You know they got
weapons all across the field. But for us, you know,
the mirales real good. You know, everybody's health, everybody ready
to go, everybody energetic, and they feel like.

Speaker 7 (16:03):
We got a lot more wins left in us. Love.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Let's talk about your quarterback because he's gotten better and
better and better from the first year to the second year.
And herr, he is laying the ball game when the
rubber needs to meet the rod. And this is how
we measure quarterbacks. How calm can you be under pressure?
When the pressure goes up? Can your blood pressure go down?
And he's answered the Bill For you, guys, what have

(16:27):
you seen from the first moment that he arrived at
one Buck Place.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I don't know what you call I just said that,
but I do know what you call it.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
But I'm saying from the very first time that he
stepped foot in your building to what you see this product.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Now, what is the biggest difference that you noticed in
Baker Mayfield?

Speaker 6 (16:43):
The first thing I noticed, man, when he first came
in the building, he just was like coming into a
locker room that you know, obviously was already established.

Speaker 7 (16:51):
You know, we had some guys in the locker room
before and then we was a winning team.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
So he was coming in basically saying, like, man, from
my point of view, saying, I got some big shoes
to feel, so officers, just come in and do my
job and do what I'm supposed to do and let
these guys to set me in.

Speaker 7 (17:05):
And now that's exactly what we did. Man.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
The first thing we did was just told man, all
we need to do is just be yourself. You know
what I'm saying, Just be Baker Mayfield that we know
in love, the one who just go out there and
have fun like a kid, make players when he make
plays just do what you do everything else to take
care of yourself.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
And you see that. Man, I love that for him.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
Man, he go out there, he having fun with he
just playing the game that he loved, playing like a
kid on the playground.

Speaker 7 (17:28):
Man, that's what we want.

Speaker 6 (17:29):
Man, you know what I'm saying, Like, we got his
back and he knows that, and I think that's what
gives him, you know, the confidence to go out there
and make the players that he makes. And like you said, man,
he's been in the game, win and drives for us,
you know past you know, three years and then.

Speaker 7 (17:43):
Opening the season with one's real big man.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
His confidence is out the roof and uh, he know
he got guys the guy back.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Let me follow this with don't Joe, Yeah, you was
on this Super Bowl team when Brady walked into the building.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Brady is a.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Very intense guy. You gonna get this dich right practice.
It ain't no okay, no, we're good. No, we're not good.
Run that issue being Brady. If the type of guy's
gonna keep his foot on your neck, what do you
what is the biggest difference between what you see from
Tom and what you see from Baker.

Speaker 7 (18:16):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
That you say that because I seen every Tom day
in the day out like if it ain't done right now,
now we're gonna get this right. You're gonna get these
ten yards. You're gonna run us outright to correct.

Speaker 7 (18:25):
Way, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
And I wen remember like a story man Vida, you
know Vda these dude us Vida in the goal line
situation and Vida had to run a little.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
Flat ut yea, and yeah he ain't get it right.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
So him a tone was out there at the practice
practicing on it, like like now we gotta get this right.

Speaker 7 (18:42):
So it's like it's crazy that you say that.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
But difference between those guys man, you know, Uh, Tom
is a you know, hardcore guy, very passionate you know
about it. You don't want everything to be Baker just
yeah professionalists and Baker you know he just talking through it.
He was Baker just cool, come and collected, just talking
through it.

Speaker 7 (19:02):
You know, I want you to do it like this,
I think this is right here and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
So you know that's kind of stuff that I see,
you know, But I do love that both of them are.

Speaker 7 (19:09):
Very passionate about the game. Man.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
Uh, you know, Baker like his competitive nature comes out,
you know in practice. You see you know, the banter
back and forth and you know, practice and stuff. And
then Tom the same way. I remember when Tom first
came in and said, man, don't cut me no slack,
just because y'all see me as Tom Brady.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
Man, y'all, man treat me just like the guys in
the locker room.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
You see me messing up me And uh, that's something
I respected about Tom because you know, outside looking at
him like, man's ain't for to say nothing. Man, I'm
lett exactly exactly exactly.

Speaker 7 (19:45):
But but he like he like.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
Nah, man, no, he said. They said, nah, man, we're
all trying to get better here. If you can make
a play on the ball, make a player on the ball.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
I think I love Baker obviously from the from from
the outside watching it and the quarterback is what he
was able to do at Oklahoma, and this is a
testament to I think most time when it comes to quarterback,
I think situational circumstance.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Is very important. He was in Cleveland things in workout.
He went to Carolina, he went to the Ram Thing
to workout.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Coming to Tampa Bay at an organization that's coming off
of Super Bowl, when having time Brady and having a
feeling and having the weapons around you, Mike, Mike Evans, Godwin.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Now you've got to book up.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
You know, Irvin, And I think things are really yelling
for you guys, and you guys are on the right
path to probably actually having a chance not the only
winning the division, but maybe end up also on the
long end, in the back end, not there in San Francisco,
especially if you guys on the deepensive side of the ball.
What you need to do, especially showing you guys had

(20:42):
week one, I think you find because offense, I think
is gonna take care of his business.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
The addition it God damn man, he's special.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
Man. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I always say, man,
here remind me coming in as a rookie. Here, remind me.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
And Chris Gone, when Chris Gold came in, you know,
even though Chris was in a different situationation, but like
just the mental factor, the maturity, you know, just him,
you know, you know, just picking vets out, asking questions
and then just being far on and what usually more
than what usually rookies you see from the rookies. So
I just seen Mecca coming in they want working, not

(21:17):
you know, putting his head down and working and grinding. Man,
and uh, it's showing. You know, it's been it's been
like that since day one, since Rookie Minnie camp. I
remember seeing clips of them in Rookie Minnie camp and
I'm just seeing him doing them like dang like and
you know, coaches calling me like, man, we got somewhere
with the meccan and I'm like, okay, I can't wait
to see it.

Speaker 7 (21:35):
And uh soon I stepped foot out there for training camp,
I'm like, this kid here, he's some great things. Yeah,
he wanted them one, you know, he say down at
the crib, he wanted them on. You know, you know
who they are.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
The uh you and Vita Uh basically the two main staates.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Dean is still there, but you guys are the perennial
Pro Bowls and all pro players.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
What is it been like?

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Because now there once upon a time, you know, you
the young buck. Now you're the ilder States one of
that defense. You got to see you and be the
mail got to see on y'all chips. It's y'all job.
You know, Bowl's gonna call it, but it's y'all job
to make sure those those nine other guys are where
they're supposed to be, hold them guys accountable, make sure
nobody's trying to play hebo hero ball. We are the

(22:23):
sum of these parts. No one is greater. How have
you been able to embrace you and be theveil? Been
able to embridge this role?

Speaker 6 (22:30):
It's been, Uh, it's been you know, at the beginning,
it's been challenging and just trying to see how you can,
you know.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
Interact with different people. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
Different people take different you know, constructive criticism, different ways.
But you know I feel like, uh, which coach bowles Man.
You know, Coach bowles Man, he give you the freedom,
you know what I'm saying. He gives you the freedom.
How you handle it? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (22:49):
You do what you gotta do to get the guys going.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
And then a lot of times even in the game
time situations like I tell V to age, you got
the front end, I take care of the back end.
You tell them what to do, and I got the
back right here. Y'all control that up front. You see something,
take control over it. And I see something in the
back end, I take control of it. And then Bulls
give us that freedom. And that's one thing that I
really love about it because you know, he put on
his players and then.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Then y'all got Winfield Jr. In the back end.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
For y'all, we got wet at all three levels level exactly.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
And then Coach Bowls trust all us to get everything,
get everybody on the same page.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
You get everything handled.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
You know, it's been like in the game the other day,
you know when uh, when they scored the first down,
third place, boy Bay.

Speaker 7 (23:31):
Say hey, y'all got y'all got y'all take care of take.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
You know that that stuff like that don't happen, so
go ahead and take care of it. And it was like, yeah,
we got your coach, and you know, so that's the
stuff that you know, kind of brings confidence to us,
knowing that you know, he called defense. But in the day,
you know, y'all responsible for exactly exactly the screen exactly exactly.

(23:54):
So he do stuff like that. Man, they give us
all the comfortents Like you said, man via take care
the front end, I take care of the middle. When
the antoine tweets, take care of the back end. So
we all got great report.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
I have one question. Obviously, I know the season already started.
You guys are coming when coming up with w you
play Monday night? But I have one question. I want
to go back to training camp real quickly. You need
a better inside uh yeah, inside that building. Is there
anything that that we could have done. I'm not part
of the team. I'm just saying we as it just
being a player in journal. Is there anything that we
could have done better to make sure brother Desmond who

(24:28):
didn't get op playing training camp.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
He's not on the field now, he's not a part
of the team.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Is there anything that you guys could have done a
little better to get him into shape? And I think
he would have been a great addition defensively, especially on
first and second down.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
Being able to stop the run and just clogging that up.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
I'm just thinking about, you know, having him beat the
VEYA and you being able to roam freely taking up
to A, taking up to the A and B gaps.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Anything that could have been done, I'm not.

Speaker 7 (24:52):
Curious, you know me sure?

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Me being in linebacker, I love to play behind it
boys to take up all the blockers for me.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
Unfortunate push. Yeah, that was the whole plan behind it too.
I think you put so we can start. But uh, man,
just an unfortunate situation. Man.

Speaker 6 (25:15):
Everybody loved in the locker room, and a lot of
guys was pushing them, even though video was pushing the
getting to get on the right track.

Speaker 7 (25:22):
But they were just unfortunate. Man.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
He didn't he wasn't able to meet the goal that
he was.

Speaker 7 (25:27):
Supposed to meet.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
And then uh, at the end of the day, I
think it was more of a medical, medical concerned type thing,
a medical type thing that was going on. I don't
know the full details, but you know, everybody you know
loved it.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
The man, he was working his off to get there.
I'll tell you.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
I'll tell you that I see him every day just grinding,
grind and grind and trying to.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
Get out there.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
And uh, you know, he hopefully God gives him another
chance to be able to take the opportunity. And I
think he gonna see it once he do get the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
I hope they told him say, look, we hey, we'll
give you another chance next year, but we need you down,
we need you down under four twenty and we can
work with you. You're still you know, four fifty. That's
a lot of people don't realize.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
How think about it.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Vita Veil is three to fifty chat, y'all see how
big Vita a is.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
He's one hundred pounds heavier than Beata Veil. So let
that sink in.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
He's one hundred one hundred, one zero zero bigger than
beat the veil. Right, So, and that's what I was
telling you said, No, it's it's a medical issue now
because the last thing you want to happen is somebody
because everybody says.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Y'all know that he was too big to be out
there in the hot sun.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
And Tampa see yeah, and then.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
You got a lawsuit on your hands, and Tampa and
the NFL don't want to deal with that. So I
told him, Look, we had him on the show, and
now we interviewed him and say, man, I do whatever
it takes in order to make a robin, you know,
let my dream, you know, live out my dream. But
like you said, it just what it just wasn't in
the cards now, not to say maybe a year from

(26:57):
now he gets a whole he gets a whole year. Hey,
I'm going down to the Duke clinic. I'mna go down
and saying, man, what y'all got for me. Man, I'm
gonna going down. Hey, I gotta get this up off
me because I don't care if I don't play, But
one snap, I want my mom my, grandma, want my
family to see me in an NFL uniform in an
NFL game one time. That that might be all that

(27:18):
in the cars. Everybody ain't gonna have a ten, fifteen,
twenty year career. Sometimes it might be a game, Sometimes
it might be six games, sometimes it might be a year.
But my mom my family is gonna see me with
an NFL uniform in a real NFL game. Like Luther
used to say, if it's only for one night, if

(27:38):
it's only for one.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
Game, yeah, I agree with you whole Hartley man, And
he's from around the way. He went to I believe
he went to Arwood. Yeah, so he was from around
the area. So you know, he years to have a
friends and family come to the president and stuff like that.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
So I just saw it in him too, man, Like
he was real, Like.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
You could tell he was hurt, hurt by you know
what I'm saying, because you know, on back home playing
for you know, probably the childhood team that he grew
up rooming for and just to be able to you know,
be you know in the NFL locker room, man, and
just make a dream come true. Man. I'm sure eventually
it happened for him, man, But like you said, man,
just wasn't the right time to him, right.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
And that's the thing, because think about it, if somebody
like we were so poor we grow up. We used
to go to the fast food restaurant to watch other
people eat.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
We couldn't. We just we just about that.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
We just watch other people as him he okay, he's undrafted,
but here he is. He got a uniform on and everything,
but he can't practice, he can't participate. You remember what
we used to go and you ain't going outside. You
ain't doing what you're supposed to. If you watch the kids,
you watch the kid through the window play, or you
one at school and you watching all the other kids play,
and you just look it.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
At just like that, trying to make you mak your parents,
make your parents steel bad.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Can I can I go out that? Boy? Don't you
ask me? Can you go out there? No more?

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Get back, get back on track. Obviously, Monday night against
Houston Texans. I'm sure if you watch Field or not,
but if you have, Yeah, what challenges do you see
from CBS offense that you guys have to be worried about?

Speaker 6 (29:12):
Oh, man, CJ getting the ball out quick? Man, he
uh getting the ball out quick, getting into his playmakers
they use in.

Speaker 7 (29:18):
Dawn shows a lot.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
Nico obviously playmaker man, somebody who you gotta watch out for.
I remember a couple of years ago, Man, we played
CJ his rookie, and he lit us up, you know
what I'm saying, So we already know what he's capable of.
And then they got Nick Chubb and backfield, you know
what I'm saying, improven vet you know, a hard runner
you know, could hurt you any any way, you know
what I'm saying. So for us, man, it's just all

(29:41):
about discipline. When you're playing guys like this. Football teams
like this, Uh, they they they run stuff the you know,
to try to get you out of position to make
you hurt yourself. So you just got to be able
to stay disciplined and stay on track for four quarters.
And uh, you know you tell it as the defense man.
These type of games you want to play, you know
it is be you just gotta be able to stop it.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Bante you played against. You know, look, you've been in
the league. Damn there decade. Now, how long have you
been in the league. What is your tenth year?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Now?

Speaker 7 (30:08):
This is fourteen?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yo, hold on, like, holdo on. You moving like this
and you're fourteen.

Speaker 7 (30:17):
Yeah, there's fourteenth for me.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
God been blessing me. Man, bro I thought it. I
thought it was ten. I was like, oh man, he
moveing like that. But it just goes to show you.
And you played against a lot of different backs. Who's
some of the toughest backs. Who's some of the you know,
the tight ends, because really you're known as a coverage linebacker,
which aren't very many of those. Most guys you either
rush the plaster or you stop to run. You know,

(30:41):
you're really known as a coverage linebacker. Yes, you're a
sure tackler, but you're known as a coverage linebacker. Who's
some of the better tight ends that you faced. Obviously
you did announce standing job dealing with Kelson the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
But the running backs that you had.

Speaker 6 (30:54):
To face, Yeah, running backs, man, come to I remember
Roshawn was tough, tough to go against. And then uh
in my division, Man, I had Darren spros couple of years.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
That was that I was a headache oh man.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
Uh And then you know obviously coming along, you know
I had go against Christian McCaffrey and A k Yeah,
those two, those two dudes a headaches, man. And when
I first came in to German, I was always to
play against Reggie Bush, you know. And I got a
chance to play with the player against of my second
year old he was in Detroit.

Speaker 7 (31:31):
That was cool. Frank Franky g was ahead. Uh man.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
A lot of guys like when you when you when
when you're going against these dudes, you kind of like
you give them their respect, and then when you're playing them,
you know, like okay, I respect.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
You, but you know it is what it is about
to play.

Speaker 6 (31:48):
But like it's like I understand, you understand why you
respect these dudes.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Like, see if I was a defensive player and I
played against a great run.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I'm tackling.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
Like a large like a lot of people used to
always say about Frank, like he wasn't that big, but
he ran behind, you know what I'm saying. Like that
was like that was something I had to kind of
like get accustomed to and stuff like that. I had
to get up on him a little bit. But Marshawn
was a tough to go against. Marshawn was a guy
who like when you hit him and you like you

(32:25):
think you got a good hit on him, and you
talking trash to him, like oh yeah, come on, like
he get it more like dangn Like I'm thinking I'm
supposed to be you know, like break you down a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
But nah, he wan't.

Speaker 7 (32:35):
He want more?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
You play? Can't hear me yet? I played?

Speaker 7 (32:39):
Can't hear you play? Can't hear you? Man?

Speaker 6 (32:40):
Can't hear He is a different animal, you know what
I'm saying. He's a dude who, like you don't know
what to expect. Man, you don't know what to expect
because like he's a big dude and you want him
to kind of like drop it on you, but you
prepare for that. But then he got these little swift
little moves and stuff on and stuff like that.

Speaker 7 (32:54):
Got good feet, good feet for a big guy.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
Uh, David Montgomery or somebody who I got a lot
of respect for Detroit who's a big guy but got
wonderful feet.

Speaker 7 (33:06):
Who else out there, man, I'll see you gives these.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
Young dudes they're taking over the.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Hen forget people because nobody wants to square him up.
So everybody wants to get your side. And so now
he munched you in your face and on your head
to the ground because I really ain't trying to look bro,
you got it six three two fifty.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
You go okay and move and move and moving the
way moving to.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, I'm not trying to get no cussion.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
The best thing you can do with twenty two man,
you gotta catch him going east and west because you
get you catch you catch.

Speaker 7 (33:41):
Him going nor well.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
The problems that they have made, they don't figured it out.
He's really not an offset I back. He's an old
school I back with a full back. Or you put
a tight end in the spot, you toss it to
it and say, hey, you pick your whole. You can't
whatever you want to pick it now. You let him
because you know, like Jamir Gibb, you can put him
in the offset. You can put him in the off
seat and run his own read with him. That's not

(34:06):
what Derrick Henry is. Dereck Henry is an old school
seventies eighties I back. You talk it to him, you
handed to him, it's his son. Find your whole. Let men,
let we will get you out of here on this
without fourteen years? How much lunger do you want to play?
And then when you go up in there and you
see Leroy Selman, you see Derek Brooks, you see Warren Sapp,

(34:29):
you see war do you see some of the greats
up in their number that's in that stadium, and you think, like, damn,
one day that that's gonna be your boy, Your boy
gonna be up in there.

Speaker 7 (34:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:41):
Man, It's incredible man, just because like this year is
the fiftieth season of the Old Yeah, a lot of guys. Yeah,
so we honoring a lot of guys that played through
the organization.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
And then like when you break it down and.

Speaker 6 (34:53):
They show all the people, you just be like like Dann,
he like this guy this, and like for me, you know,
I take it all land because I'm basically following these
guys footsteps. I know what these guys been through. And
see these guys come back and then you know, like
come through and show.

Speaker 7 (35:07):
Love like that.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Stuff like that is pretty cool man, especially dB dB
always coming back right there.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, I got you a great guy.

Speaker 7 (35:17):
Yeah, yeah man, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
I mean, shoot, when I first got hit at the
first person, they say, hey, you gotta know they gotta
live up to fifty five legacy. I'm like, But the
thing about like every thinking I like about dB man
the first time. Once soon as I got drafted, as
soon as I got the tamp of man, he hit
me up, Hey, let's go have lunch.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
You know what I'm saying. I wasn't expecting that, you
know what I'm saying. So when when we.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
Had our little lunch, he told me, man, I know
a lot of people kind of like expecting you to
do this and that. But man, I'm gonna tell you
like this, man, just be yourself. Bro be yourself and
let everything else take care of itself. You know who
you are as a football player. And once you once
you be yourself everything and take care of himself. And
then he made me pay team are you gonna play?

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Look, because there is no senior circuit for the NFL,
because once this thing over and you're never gonna be
able to find what you left in that locker room,
the practices, the locker room, the plane rid, the bus ride.
How much longer? How much how much long would you got?
How much longer do you want to play?

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Man?

Speaker 6 (36:19):
Yeah, to be honest with you, man, I thought I
was done two years ago.

Speaker 7 (36:23):
You know, when we played a Detroit divisional game.

Speaker 6 (36:26):
You know, that was a long season, you know, and
I ain't never felt like that for a season in
my whole entire career. You know, I was hurting, you know,
body tie exhausted. And then you know, out of nowhere,
you know, I got an extribution energy. So I ended
up coming back for year thirteen. And then you know,
this past year, I was dealing with at little something, uh,
you know, injury wise, and I tried to see how

(36:47):
it felt, and then so behold, you know, good Lord
blessed me started feeling good, and I was like, okay,
I'll give it another try. So you know, right now, man,
I'm just taking it in a moment, bro, I'm taking
in the moment.

Speaker 7 (36:58):
Man.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
You know, I love the gameootball. I'm not just I
just don't play the game like. I actually genuinely love
the game. I'm a fan of football, so like just
to be around of it, being around it, you know,
the relationship that I can deal with it. You know,
I'm just trying to do that to the best of
my ability. But you know, I'm gonna just see how
this year go and uh and go from there. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (37:19):
It's been real, you know, definitely uh enjoyable ride. Man.

Speaker 6 (37:23):
But like my coach, coach Foot always say, man, hey,
your retirement life longer than your football.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Hey, you know that contract is stench and all of
a sudden, you know, I.

Speaker 7 (37:35):
Don't much exactly much better.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
The fact that you're talking about longevity.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
If you got, if you got at this point, if
you're feeling good right now, get hold on. I can
I can extend your career another five. I can get
you to twenty. I can get to the twenty. I
have nutritional program I can.

Speaker 7 (37:59):
Put we're going down.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Week week the week, week the week. I could extend
your career another five years.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Make sure there's no injuries, and you know, get twenty
and just give me the credit.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Twenty dollars a week. That ain't nothing, you know, and
and I got you Just let me know.

Speaker 7 (38:17):
Oh Joe, ain't I ain't twenty one, twenty two no more. Man,
that stuff's not thank you.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
It's not gonna say I gotta I got a healthy
battle a healthy. Medium of two things.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
I don't I listen, listen, I do it in three
cycles and cycles the end of the season, the season,
and then the back end of the season.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
And man, before you know you look up, you're being
your twenty.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
One he doing three cycles. Break was lunch and dinner.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Hey y'all play, y'all play Monday in Tampa.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
And man, both games on the road.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
A yeah, both on the road, man, too tough opponents game.
Uh the week after that we played Jets.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
We did it.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Man, that's if we get a ticket. I drive through
from Miami. I just need one.

Speaker 7 (39:05):
You know, I got you for.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Man, Lev thanks for stopping by. Begivenings a few moments
of your time. Continue success, rest the luck, stay healthy,
and guys, when you guys go where you think you're
gonna go, stop back by and tell us how you
did it.

Speaker 7 (39:20):
Yes, sir, appreciate you guys.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Man, God bless you.

Speaker 7 (39:23):
Thanks sir.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Lavonte David the outstanding All Pro linebacker from the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers. Damn time flying. I had no idea, my man,
I don't know a fourteen hell no, hell I thought
it was what I thought it was. I thought it
was a decade.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
You know how long fourteen is as a life backer.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, as a linebacker. I mean, you know what, guys,
you know what, Ojo. I think the thing is because
guys are not hitting like they did. What you know,
Ray played seventeen, say, I'll played twenty. Clay Matthews played
like eighteen nineteen. But I think I think now oo,
because guys are not hitting in practice.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
Like we used to do outside of the games.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Right, they're taking care of the guys in training camp.
He probably you know, I'm saying the training camp.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
The old guys used to have the afternoons off, so
you know, you played, you know, your put screamy practice
in the morning, and then you took the afternoon off.
You got your little cardio in and things like that.
So guys are doing a better job of preserving themselves.
And now they got they got cryo, they got laser therapy,
they got PT, they got oh chotter.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
In fact, matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that.
When's the last time you've been inside the Broncos facility.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Oh, it's been a minute.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
I went inside the Bengal facility when I was there
Thursday night for the practice yeah, they got everything. Yeah,
oh yeah, they got when it when it, when it
comes to recovery and taking care of your body, they
got everything. Now, So I can see why some of
the players could be able to play as long as
they have and continue their career. If it's say I
got twenty and I think Derrick Brooks played out dere

(40:56):
Brook played.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I don't think Brooks he played as long as Ray
Ray had got said Ray got seventeen.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Seventeen, Levonte could definitely get twenty. Man, he can definitely
get twenty if he and for twenty.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Look, I'm thinking fifteen. I said, let let me, let
me get let me get out of this seat, let
me get out of fourteen. You don't you get I
recalibrate to fifteen because you know that's you know, seventeen
games and he tackled, he hitting people. Yeah, so you
know he saw after every game his shoulders, his back,
his knees.

Speaker 7 (41:24):
Man.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
But uh, it was good to have him all the unbelievable,
unbelievable career. I'm glad he was able to stop by
and talk about some of the things. And uh, but
what like you and I talked about on your big days,
it's a medical issue. It is, it is what it is,
and you know you're gonna air, You're gonna err on
the side of cartia.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Yeah, Listen.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
The first thing I thought about, too, when I saw
him continue working on the sideline, just walking and not
actually practicing.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
The first thing that came to mind was Corey Stringer.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Yeah, came to mind was Corey Stringer and them not
want to be liable for anything that happened to him
if he's on the fie. But then in his case,
I think about, well, hell, he just did. He just
did his time in Florida at that rate, at that
size and still played and contributed. So but I kind
of understand where the NFL and the ten baby Buccaneers
didn't want to be liable if anything happened to him

(42:15):
at the way he was.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yeah, because they figured they figured NFL got deeper pockets
than colleges, so they gonna put that tax on you, Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Former number one overall draft pick Jadevian Clowney visited the
Cowboys today. With the Cowboys trading Michael Parson to the Packers,
Jerry Jones is entertaining the twenty fourteen number one overall
draft pick Jadevian Clowney as a possible edge rush to
help the defense. Brian schottenhamu cut coach Clowney with the Seahawks.
This is something we've been monitoring every position. Again, I

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feel great about our defensive line. But anytime you have
a chance to potentially add a foot for good football players,
why wouldn't you kick the tires?

Speaker 2 (42:51):
O Jo would Jadavian Clowney help?

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Absolutely, absolutely absolutely will listen today. C is gonna get
out of your quarterback the day. Von Clowney is good
against the run. He's a disruptor. He can add and
add some help. He's not he's not Michael Parsons, He's
not that, but he can add and he can add
an addition on that offensive line coming in similar to

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maybe maybe not all three downs, but coming in on
third downs. If yeah, we and and rotate and rotate
that defensive line and keep everybody fresh. He that's I'm
not sure why they didn't sign Hi yet. I'm not
sure what they're waiting on. He should be able to
before week four, before week happens, before week before happens,
he should be on that field.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Yeah, I just me personally watching him.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Obviously with to the US of South Carolina, where my
brother went, so obviously I had a little vested interests
because I still root for the game costs even though
I didn't play there, my brother played there. I just
don't think that Jadavian Clowny ever lived up to what
we thought he was going to be.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
If you go back and look at his sophomore year ojo, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
Yeah, that Michigan game man.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
What he was doing, he was really ripping people's next office,
proving down the throat.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, I'm like, whoa, what is this? We had never
seen somebody like that.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
I mean he was violent, and that's what you when
I look when I'm looking at a defensive player, your
spacial defensive lineman or linebacker, I want violence.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I want somebody that's gonna strike.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
And be and and and not be and not be
ashamed of, Like, yeah, my job is this is my
job is to punish you. And I just when I
when I look at him, I was like, bro, the guy.
I mean, look how big he was. Look at the
forty times that he ran, look at his first step,
look at his short shuttle. I mean he could do
it all. I mean tremendous first step. You know who

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I thought he was gonna be. Like I said, this
is this is a second come of Jabon Curst. That's
who I thought he was gonna be.

Speaker 7 (44:46):
Like.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
That's a good one.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Listen, There's not very many of it been like the freak.
But again, what we saw from him in college, we expected.

Speaker 5 (44:53):
To see it.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
He was.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
He was good, but he wasn't great.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
I'm not sure what his injury history looks like, but
I do know some of the times he showed flashes
at brilliance.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Yes, yes, a great, great disruptor, and I know he
can get after the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
He has a great motor, great energy, and I think
he'd be a great addition to the Dallas Cowboys. I'm
not sure once he came in. This shouldn't have been
no watching practice. Helly should have been in practice. Yes,
he should have been in practice. So I'm excited for him.
It's a great addition for the Cowboys and that defense,
and they need it because the first game we saw
them play, they got no pressure.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
No, they got no goddamn pressure.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
They didn't at all. Uh. And the thing is, think
about O Joe, who was he playing beside JJ.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Watt Yeah, JJ Watler defensive player of the Year.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
So that means I'm getting one on one. I wish
you would.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
I wish you would slide that protection of ninety nine
and leave me one on one one.

Speaker 7 (45:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
If can you imagine if look how look what how
Aaron Donald was when when Von he was already Aaron
Donald and then you put Von Miller and you put
Leonard Floyd outside of him. You remember what he looked like. Yeah,
that's what That's what Jadavi and Cline was supposed to be.
When you got a hair raiser on one side, you

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best believe I'm kicking ass and taking name did As
to love guard center back out of bound. Yes, that's
how that's that's the mentality.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Boy.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I wish I I wish y'all would double rod. I
did you I double dog? Dare you to double somebody
else other than me? In fact, I'm not gonna.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
As a matter of fact, honestly, you got to take
something like that personal. You have to take something like
that personal, saying, oh, you're gonna slade protection opposite way
because you think there's a dog on the other side.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yes, one you disrespected you said, Oh, we ain't got
to worry about him.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
Okay, basically, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
By third quarter A now, JJ about to eat because
y'all gotta bring that. Y'all gotta bring that. Y'all gott
to bring this left tackle. Y'all gotta bring some help
because I'm gonna tear his ass up. And look, we
don't know. Obviously, he's not the He's still not that.
He's not the explosive player he wants nobody else. I mean,
this is this to be his twelve year in the league.

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He came into twenty fourteen, so we look at a
guy that'll be twelve years deep obviously, But yeah, he
had moments, But I expected I expected him to be
a perennial Pro Bowl player, a perennial All Pro. He
had Defensive Player of the Year potential. That's what I
was expecting of him. He's an over overall draft pick,

(47:44):
number one overall draft pick as a defensive line Oh yeah,
you gotta be Miles Garrett. That's the number one overall
draft pick as a defensive lineman. Bruce Smith, that's the
number one draft pick as an overall as a defensive lineman.
That's what I'm expecting.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
I don't. I don't think I might expect too much,
and I.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Know everybody can't be I think Bruce was a two
time Defensive Player of the Year. Miles has already won one.
But when you're the number one overall player, those are
the expectations that people have for you. And like I said,
he had a good career, but I think he left

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some stuff on the table.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Oh Joe, I do I do.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Cowboys All Pro cornerback de Ron Bland suffered a foot
injury during practice on Monday that could result in him
missing a couple of weeks. Bland recently signed four year
extension ninety two million dollars. According to Clarence Hill, Bland
is is out at least two weeks. He missed time
last season would have left foot fracture. Dray Von Diggs

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is already is not ready for a full load. He
played twenty seven snaps against the Eagles. OJO and it's
time for them to call Gilly Stefan Gilmore.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Yeah, yeah, I think you should listen to Colts called
Xavier Howard. You're bringing a veteran, veteran presence, a very
savvy veteran at that like Stefan Gilmore, he's ready, he can't.
I had the wide receiver workshop during the off season.
Gilmore came out there to watch some of the receivers
and we talked for a little bit. He's saying he
was keeping himself in shape. If the right situation presented itself,
he would welcome a comeback. So I think that's something

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that they should do again. I'm not sure why Jerry's
not on the phone knowing that Bland is gonna be.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
About two weeks now.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
I think they probably have some type of belief and
whoever Blands back up maybe where they haven't called the
veteran presence to come in. So I think they're thinking, like, okay, well, listen,
two weeks, we can roll with someone else that we
already have here that is a backup, and see if
we can do things to kind of protect him. If
he's the fish, If that person that is the backup
is the weak link, we can hide that for a

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little bit.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
We can hide that for two weeks until Bland gets back.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Well, I think the thing is, if you're going to
hide him, that means you'all defensive line need to get pressure.
That's the best way to hide his ass on Joe
the quarterback go have time to see his back, but
to throw the ball or somebody hit him in the
back of his head. That's what that's that's what you're
you're looking for. That's what you're trying to accomplish if
you're trying to hide. Hide to think because that look,
I don't I didn't think they had great I think

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they got guys.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
If I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I think darn Bland was a wide receiver and they
switched it to dB in college.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
That would be him and Trayvon Dick, Rayvon Dick, Trayvon
Diggs in Alabama as a wide receiver, and coach Samans says,
I think, but but you got to think what look
look at all the receivers that was over there.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yes, son, I think you'd be better on the other
side of the on the other side of the ball.
And he's parlayed that into one of the better defensive backs.
Great clue skills. Uh, he's a gambler. Got a lot
of t Buck, a lot of tendencies. T Buck used
to always say they got a they got more slants
and stop routes than it got nine routes, so I
would take my chances.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
And he would.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
But I agree with you, I think you have to
look at Gilly. I don't know how much Gilly has
left in the tank. Clearly he's not the defensive player
that yes Stefan gil Moore than nobody expect that. But
is he better than the guy that you could potentially
call up or you could potentially.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Slide in that slot.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Ask the question that Jerry and the coaching staff and
the hire of the brass those are the decisions that
they would.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Need to make. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (51:17):
Absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Despite beating the Jets, it wasn't a particularly good day
for the Pittsburgh offensive line, especially left tackle Broderick Jones,
who was responsible for three other four sacks on Rogers Well.
Aaron defended Jones to Dad, actually blamed himself for some
of the sacks he took, citing back tightness that kept
him from being more elusive. I don't think I was
moving that well, so I think I kind of ran

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into at least one or two of those sacks. So
I got to do a better job of using my legs.
You know, I might be old, but I still feel
like a move around pretty good. I wasn't moving the
way I usually moved. I thought the protection was good
for the most of the game. There are a couple
of fundamental things to clean up. I just got to
get get the ball out. That's the thing, Aaron. You
see what you heard what he said on Joe. He
said he would think he couldn't move.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
That's that's what happens when you get old. You think
in your mind you could do all these things.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
But you can't. You can't. And then obviously the offensive
line has to help him a little bit. They have to.
They have to help him a little bit. And Aaron
has to have that clock. That clock has to go
off in your head.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
If you don't have the skill set from with the
lower extremity, being able to move the way you used to,
you got to be able to process that information a
little bit faster and get the ball out.

Speaker 7 (52:27):
Yeah, you do.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
And I think the thing is that he does have
a quick release and sometimes he dogs sacks because he
can get them. But that's the thing. He doesn't have
the legs. He's forty one. He doesn't have the legs
that he once had. And that's what made him so unique.
That's why you know, people look at him as one
of the greatest throwers of the boot ball because of
the arm platform, but his ability to throw the ball
on the move. Yeah, there have been very few guys

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in NFL history that's been able to throw the ball
on the move as well as Aaron Rodgers, or throw
the ball from the pocket as well as Aaron Rodgers.
The armslaughts, the angles, and he had he had good legs.
He wasn't Lamar Jackson, but he didn't need to beat
but that arm. He had superior arm talent and with
his with his mind, man, it was it was. It

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was to just watch him. Like I said, I went
to the Super Bowl that they beat the the beat
the Pittsburgh Oh Joe, And.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
I was standing on the sideline and I'm watching this
rook got warm up. I said, he.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
That's the greatest story of the football I've ever seen.
And I saw Joe throw the ball as I saw
Joe Montanna throw the football. I saw Damn Marino throw
the football. I saw l Way throw the football. I
saw Warren Moon throw the football. I say, that guy,
what I just saw. In my fourteen years of playing
in the NFL and all my years of covering the NFL.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I've never seen anybody throw the football with he.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
Got the ultimate stamp of all time.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
When Tom Brady comes out and says, Aaron Rodgers is
the greatest throw of the football that he's ever seen,
or every witness or watch.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
Play, then it is exactly what it is.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Got to see it.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Yeah, no matter how bottom, no matter how he looks now,
he's still the greatest store of the football. And then
when you get flashes of the brilliants that were used
to seeing and he brings that to the Steelers. He
gives you a great chance to win. And what they've
done defensively, what they but they don't they didn't bought
in Jabril Preppers. They didn't Gabrill Preppers. You got Daisy,

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you got Jaylen Ramsey. I mean you got Patrick Man
this They're gonna be all right. You got TJ, while
you got Cam.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Come on now something.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Some things you have to see for yourself because TV
doesn't do it justice, like they say. You know, watching
hockey is better if you watch it in person, then
you watch it on television. Football is better if you
watch it in person, then you watch it on television.
Some things you have to actually see for yourself in
order to get an appreciation, and me being a student

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of the game, me being around the game, and to
see him throw the foot ball. I saw the same
when I saw bad run like I've never seen nobody
run like that. When you see Jerry run routes and
then catch the football, and the effortlessness that Jerry ran
with and the precision in which he got in and

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out of breaks, like damn, that's what you think when
you see Aaron throw the football. That's what When I
saw him throw the football, I was like, I mean,
I'm talking about just the flick of the wrists and
the ball is just I'm talking about ain't no wobble.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
I mean, everything is just tight. I'm just like up
and over.

Speaker 7 (55:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
And the funny thing about it is too as great
as as great of a throw the football Aaron is.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
The way he throws the ball in his mechanics or no,
you can't, don't teach that done. It doesn't go hand
in hand, no help go hand in hand.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
All over the place.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
He's all over the place. He does everything because his arm,
his arm, his arm, talent arm strength football.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, yeah, it is.

Speaker 5 (56:01):
You can't teach that you can't teach that.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Xavia Worthy left the Chiefs Week one game due to
a dislocated shoulder, and the injury and the Chiefs third
offensive player in Brazil. He was running a crossing paddle
over the middle and he and Travis Kelsey read directly
in each other. Kelsey took the blame for what happened
on New Heights. I'm supposed to be running my route
at depth for Worthy, so it's frustrating. I was trying
to set up the guy to be able to get
into position, and then it just happened pretty quick. I

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just got to be better, man. I mean your I'm
thirteen years in the league. There's no excuse for me
running into my own guy like that.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
Yo, Joe, what do we say where we said the
same thing. He ain't listen.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
He was supposed to be at seventy nine and Worthy
was supposed to be come underneath that. But you got
to remember on the pressure the collision, when you write
exit nose is you got to remember there's somebody else.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Well it makes the nose don't move. You just put
them on the paper. They stayed right where you put him.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
So he was a little short because the person in
front of him. The collision. It forced him to.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
Run his xavier worthy. So if anything, you got to
go a little higher that look, you got to fight
through that contact. You have to, and that's that's where
the that's where the collision happens. So uh, it's it's unfortunate.
It's something that that he can fix. But again, you
just it's all about being being self aware.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
He can fix it down, but he ain't fix the
xavier shoulder for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
Yeah, that's that's messed up, and that's it.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
That's the thing. But I knew, I knew what it was.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
I said, bro, you do do you understand how many
shallow crosses that I've run, how many peak shallow crosses,
because a lot of sometimes we run the shallow cross
on our own, and a real shallow cross is four
to six four yards, But you're gaining because you want
to give the quarterback the angle. So you start two
to three, you get the four deep, no deeper than six.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Catch it. He will. Hey, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
If it's a man, he put it out in front
of him, he lead turned you up. If it's a zone,
you don't look at him. You just oopah, stop on
the dime that tackle gap, hey, and however you put
it on, you put it between the eight and the four.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
He said, get up for your shadow. Shatter's some danger
on left or the right of you.

Speaker 7 (58:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
See it's easy with his own problem.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 5 (58:03):
The problem is when it's man and you trying to
collision you and you're trying to get to your depth,
and you got to fight through that, right, fight through that.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
But see, and my thing is, oh, y'all, look, Kensey
is bigger than I was. But you couldn't stop me
from getting where I wanted to be. Now you can't
because I'm just gonnaut. I'm gonna push through you. And
then I see because the whole while, as I know,
I got to pick so the but see, mainly, oh yo,
I wasn't the picker.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Somebody else was picking for me. For me, Yeah, somebody
picking for me.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
But when I did, on the rare occasions that I
did have to pick or I'm gonna get, I'm gonna
get you. I'm gonna push up and guess what, I'm
gonna run your i' gonna run you into your own guy.
Sometimes I had to get oh, I had to get skinny.
I mean literally, you run it like this, Hey, you
got to turn like this here get through that. Yeah, yeah,
you gotta get skinny. But it's it's very unfortunate, and

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I know to watch it you like, man, of all
the things could happen, I got a thousand catchers, I
got like the most playoff touchdowns. I'm a few yards
short of Jerry as far as yards in the playoffs,
and I ran into my own guy. I put my

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own guy. That's that's that's what that's what. That's what
Travis thinking. That's what NEP is thinking, Like, I put
my own damn guy. We already thinking. We already the
first six weeks, O Joe. We without reheet Rice. Now
we were out our second best receiver. Hey, man, what
y'all gonna do? Man, y'all ain't gonna do nothing, blow
that thing or let him get Tyreek back.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
Oh that's not fair. That's not fair. I think it's
too soon for that though.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Y'all ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Hey, listen, if things don't continue to get better, it's
only week one night as only as.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
The price is dropped, O Joe. If you get to
the trade deadline and y'all out of contention. Everybody know
you trying to unload Tyreek hold hold on the trade?

Speaker 5 (59:59):
When is trade day?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Line?

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
It's only week one? Now, I'm come on, now is
week When is week?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
Trade that line?

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
If you have to wait till you in a byd,
it's too late.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
People, You make bad decisions when you're in a bind, right,
make decisions before.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
You have to.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
That's not the way. That's not the way they're thinking.
Management is not thinking like that. We just starting the season.
They're not thinking like that already. Now you are thinking
like that logically because we're sitting here with not playing,
but we want to at least have a chance to win.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
Who gives us our best chance to win? Number ten?

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
No, what gives us the best chance to win in
twenty six, twenty seven and beyond? Because you and I
both know Tyreek Hill. Tyreek Hill's making thirty six million
next year. You know damn well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
You know that I know that he ain't getting that
from Miami.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
If that's the case.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
If that's the case, if we think about twenty six,
twenty seven and beyond, then you would let him go.
When it was the issue with what he said last
year in offseason, you would let him go to this offseason.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I think they thought about it, though, Joe. They damn
Suoe thought about it. They thought about it, Okay, maybe
and maybe the price a little bit too high. The
price came down. Now price coming down. The NFL said
they're gonna investigate. He's going through a divorce and there
was some things put in the lawsuit that's come out
that the NFL didn't that doesn't look favorable pun and

(01:01:17):
I hate that for Tyreek. We've kind of had, we've
you know, he he he took what I said. I
said that he's not u uh Smitty. Steve Smith and
I was having a conversation and he was basically saying
that Tyreek is a body catcher. He doesn't you know,
he doesn't pluck the ball. And I was like, okay,
I can understand that. And he took that that we

(01:01:39):
were I said, but he's phenomenal. Michael lerveth in the
Hall of Fame. Nobody looks at Mike and says, Mike,
you know, Mike did this. It's okay, but he but
I've always given credit to Tyreek because when he came
into the league, O hoe. He was mainly a gadget guy.
He's a returner, and put him in on you know,

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j sweeze.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
And things like that. And then all of a sudden,
he turned himself. He taught himself how to run routes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
He could run the route treat and with that speed,
he turned himself into a player that's gonna do get
a gold jacket one day. That's what Tyreek Hill has
been able to do. I don't have I've never had
a problem giving guys credit when it's due. But I've
also never had a problem critiquing guys when I think
their needs, critiquing and saying that's not good enough, that

(01:02:25):
was bad, that was good, that was unacceptable. That's I've
never had a problem with that. But I think, But
but the thing is, oh Joe, the trade deadline is
November fifth.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
Okay, okay, oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Why would I Why would I give you what you want?
Y'all two and y'all two and seven at the trade deadline?
Now you think I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Give you what you want? I know you got to
get up off it. I know you do. Right, Yeah,
Well keep him?

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Then, I'm not I'm not sure sure, I'm not sure,
mister gri and Mike mcdame is ready to throw the
talent already.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
They are.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
That's why they traded Jalen Ramsey. That's where they let
Christian Wilkins. Well, that's why they let Klais Campbell go
hold on.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
That's that's that's that's based on age. That's based on age.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
That's based on the amount that they had to pay
j in On Ramsey that they're they're getting there, get
the get that money off the books.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Now, you get that money off the books, right? And
you what are you telling your players?

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
How long? How much older is Jayalen Ramsey?

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
The Minka Fitzpatrick, So Mica Fitzpatrick just came into a
rebuilding situation, their transition, their transition, getting rid of all
their older players.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Okay, huh, I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Said they're transitioning, getting rid of all the older players,
rebuilding all over again.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I mean that's why you let Tyreek go.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
They should have let him go in the off season.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Yes, but I think that I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Think the thing is maybe the asking price was too high,
the asking price for Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Yep, I should want o Joe if Okay, the best
time to buy a sports car is winning in the winner.
You fight in the summer or the spring, and see
what they've taxed your ass. As a matter of fact,
I'm going to New York. I'm going to Words. Yeah,

(01:04:23):
let me get that Ferrari because I know, hey, I
will be able to I will be able to get
a discount on the sports car in the winter if
I wait till the spring of the summer.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Listen to me. Let me tell you something springing and
sports cars.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Let go right, Yes, you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Got that discount you wanted, But that discount that sports car,
it's still it's still prime. It's yes, step and it's
still playing exactly had had supposed to play, and it's
in a better situation. You think Tyreek could be upset
about leaving.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Well, I think I ideally, Oh Joe, I mean, look,
I'm in a state with no state tax and the
weather is great year round, so all things being equal,
with Joe, it's like when the fox threw the rabbit
in the bron patch.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
He's like, WHOA, I was born and raised right here,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
He's like, oh, Joe, no state taxes and the weather
year road, what more could you ask for?

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
I mean, there's a reason why. That's the reason why
your black ball head ass still down there.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
Yeah that listen, Miami is all I know. I'm born
and raised.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
But obviously you know, the first thing Tyreek could say
mentally in his mind, what's the worst thing? The best
thing I could ask for is a quarterback. Oh yeah,
for a quarterback. So you wanted to get you want
them to have everything.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
So you want the man to have nice weather, you
wouldn't have no state income tax, and he get to
play with Aaron Rodgers or Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
Listen from what I from the reports I've been seeing
about going to the Steelers, Oh, he would be nice
for the reports that I'm seeing him about going back
to Kansas City.

Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
Then we would just see Tyreka Bold.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
Yes, when you're taking a player that's in a bad
situation where they can't give him the ball and put
him in a situation with quarterbacks where he can get
the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
So you want so you want to put Jared right,
you want to put Jered Rice with Marito in Miami.
At least put him in San Francisco so they gonna
get some rain sometime. He got to play it in
Clement Weather.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
You want to put him in an ideal situation that's
like Barrett. So you want to put Barons Sanders. You
want to put Baron Sanders with a Hall of Fame
quarterback and the Cowboys offensive line right right right, So you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Wanted to be Emmy Smith because that's what Look what
they gave him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
They gave a Hall of Fame quarterback, a Hall of
Fame wide receiver, offensive line out the yin yang and
he got eighteen thousand yards rushing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
Well, hell he was with the Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
He had back to back seventeen hundred yard seasons, so
we knew he can get it done there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
But just one there. I see.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
The thing is is that he was probably he was
not going to have that in Kansas City because you
got Kelsey. But what he was going to be able
to do slip something on his finger every you know,
he's gonna get it, you get proposed, He's gonna get
proposed to after every every year.

Speaker 7 (01:07:07):
Absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
And the funny thing about it is wherever he does go,
he increases the chances of getting another ring.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Yeah, he increases the.

Speaker 5 (01:07:15):
Chances of walking down to the aust again.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Yeah. I think the thing is, O yo, I think
they you're not gonna do. First of all, ain't nobody
gonna give you what you gave up to get him?

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Now he's three years he's three years older, and there's
a lot of other things going on. Now, Now, what
is it reasonable that you Because O yo, he got
thirty six million, he's gonna be fifty one million dollars
against the cap next year for a wide receiver. So
all things being equal, you're probably gonna have to extend
him to lower that cap number. Yeah, so now I

(01:07:46):
gotta factor that in. Now, if I trade for him,
how much of that salary are you gonna pay? How
much of the salary am I gonna pay? Those are
all things that's gonna be factored in because I know
next year twenty six he's not gonna Ain't no wide
receiver gonna count no fifty one million dollars against the cap.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
I understand what you're saying, But again, whoever has to
account for what, whoever has to pay what they're.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
Willing to pay because you understand the type of player
you're getting.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Are we sure we're gonna get that type of player?

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
Come on, now, come on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Now, I'm just saying, oh Joe, I got the factor in.
I got the factor in last year? Do I not
do I do I not factor in?

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
If it means if if we're factoring last year, let's
factor all. Let's factor in everything on why it looked
the way it did.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Even if you factor that in, the one thing that
you cannot do is what quit. Oh no matter how
bad he get outside, oh cho, no matter how bad
it is storming at the end of the day, O Joe,
if you the mail man, you can't say, well, I
ain't delivering the mail because it's raining. Right, put on
your goloshes, put on your raincoat, and you got to

(01:09:00):
deliver the mail. You're right, oh Joe. We all of
them been through it, Oh Joe. We all have been
in situation. We get our eyes beat out. I was like,
who man, hey one still up?

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Still up? Man? Were down thirty? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Hello, I was in that all my career, outside of
one season, all my career.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Yeah. It's tough, man, It's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Ben Johnson shouldn't expect a warm homecoming Ojoe when he
returns to ford Field for Week two, and Rob Saint
Brown said week two is going to be so crazy.
I promise you it's going to be so electric. But
as soon as Ben walks in there, we blewing him.
I don't give an f We're all bulling you.

Speaker 7 (01:09:42):
That's dope, that's dope. That's dope.

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
Of course, listen, that's the that's the way it is,
that's the way it is.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Obviously, Ben Johnson now being you know, the head coach
over there with the Bears having great success, you know,
calling and plays for the Detroit Lions. Of course, fans
are gonna feel some way, players are gonna feel some
type of way. Their happy for him, but you're no longer.

Speaker 7 (01:10:02):
A part of us.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
You're no longer part of us. So it comes from
the territory. The boozs are gonna rain.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
The boozs are gonna rain, and when football is played,
they're gonna They're gonna have to do what they need
to do when that whistle blows.

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