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one seed in the AFC thanks to a thirty three
thirty three fifteen victory over the two and eleven, well
now two and eleven Giants. They were two and ten
thirty three by the score of thirty three to thirteen.
Great May was his sensational self as usual twenty four
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Speaker 1 (04:32):
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show hope y'all took my advice last night. Look at
that Look at that pig four flex play. Oh Joe,
you see it right.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Now on your think yea yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah
hit it, yeah, hit it.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I want to rock right now. Hey how much we
won twenty twenty five? Little criminal money? Look, yeah, that's nice,
every little thing of help because I told them sa
Clack got laid off. Ain't no criminal coming this year
claw Ceta claud got laid off. But uh but that
(05:10):
was a very uh oh yeah trivia out here. Oh yeah,
he went over because he rushing, receiving, rushing a receiving
Oh you. As I mentioned before, the Patriots beat the
Giants by the spot thirty three to fifteen. New England
led thirty to seven at the half Giants Special Teams.
Guess what Marcus Jones, who will be the All Pro
(05:32):
return of this year, a ninety four yard part return
to really break it open and Christian Ellis, Boy, he oh, Joe,
I told you? Yeah, I told you last night. You
say I said, Oh Joe, he ain't learned his lesson yet.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, he ain't.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
How he went flying When you see a guy going
flying like that, that, yeah, he's totally relaxed. He didn't
brace himself. So he's running because when they teach you
to spread, what they tell you to do, relax, So
he's totally relaxed. This is the only time they get
you're a runner. They can't hit you. Nothing like that.
No other time. They're not going to pull up. They
(06:09):
are going to try to unload. And boy, he had
a Jackson Dark must have an air tag on them.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So boy when.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, I don't even know what the air tag is,
but I hear people are talking about it. Yeah, you
were talking about AirTag that they can find somebody's location.
Well listen, he found his location. And then guess what,
Joe came on the kick off.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah to Fleet, Yeah he caught him. Jackson Dark has
has to be safe. He has to be safe. He's
a special player. He's going to be special what he
can do when he has a ball in his hands.
I've been able to extend plays, make things happen off
the script, outside of the scheme that outside of the
plays that are called.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
He's gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
But he has to learn to protect himself and know
know when the journey's over, It's okay to step out
of bounds.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
It's okay to slide. You don't have to be taken
on DV.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You don't have to take on linebackers and improve that
you're tough. That team, that team is gonna be good.
Once they get leaked back, once they get scatter go back,
they gonna be nice.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I maybe get maybe get a playmaking safety or a corner,
maybe an offensive line. But because I think they have
the pieces on yo, I do think they have pieces.
The Patriots are really really good. The only thing they're
really really well coached. We know that about break Yes,
we saw that in Tennessee. Tennessee, y'all made a big mistake.
Y'all made a big mistake. You should have never let
(07:29):
this man out of the building. Coaches like him don't
come along often. You let Dack Henry out of the building,
you let a J. Brown excuse me out of the building.
You you can't keep having turnover like that. You can't
be personal, I mean, because you get if you get
too involved as an owner, it becomes personal.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You get rid of the guy.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And I think that's why the Patriots were so was
lasted so long, is that mister Kraft stayed away. He
didn't let his personal feeling out what he thought about
Coach Belichick get involved, and then you can let things.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Blossom the way they should be.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But man, when you look at them, Drake made twenty
four to thirty one oh Yo two eighty two to
two touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You've got a twenty nine carriage above above nineteen Hunter
Henry four for seventy three, Romadre Stevenson three for thirty
three for forty excuse me. Boote had four for thirty
five and one. Kyle Williams had one for thirty three
and one Tuck. They are very good. Look, they ain't
got nobody that they don't got no big name received
that jump off the board at you. Oh, they ain't
(08:30):
got hey Drake may have, but they got that guy.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah. See if you got that guy, O yo, I don't.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I don't think people understand how good Drake may has been.
Like I'm obviously I knew he was good. I didn't
know he was this good.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, I didn't agree. I agree.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I think he's He has a completing percentage of about
almost damn near seventy percent. Yeah, seventy percent dating back
to last year. And I'm not talking about seventy percent.
Completing percent is throwing screen, not bubble screen, not check downs,
not throwing to the running back, about play over twenty
yards twenty yards or better? And that lets me know,
for one, he not scared letter rip. Now only is
(09:07):
he not scared to letter rip. He is insanely accurate
with the ball as well. So and you know what,
like about the receiving cord, You say they don't have
a superstar receiver, they don't have a true number one,
But every game.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Somebody else shows up. Every game is somebody else?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Huh? The guy's fit, Yes, they fit. Look at he
had three completions over thirty yards. He had a thirty
six yard on a hundred. Hendry a thirty six yard
to Ramadre Stevens. Yes, and he had a thirty three
yard of the Kyle Williams he had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight nine. He had nine completions of at least ten yards.
(09:45):
So that tells me, oh Jo that he's unafraid to
push the.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Ball down the field. Yeah. Look, there gonna be times
you screen the ball out. You I get that, you're
gonna run screen to the running back.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You're gonna run a smoke screen or jail break screen,
bubble screen, whatever they call him. Now, you're gonna run.
But at the end of the day, at some point
in time, you're gonna have to take chances down the field.
You're gonna have to push the ball down the field.
And he's unafraid to push the ball down the field.
Give Josh McDaniels a stream credit. Look, he might not
be a great head coach, but he's an unbelievable offensive courter.
(10:16):
Unbelievable here guys in the right position, and everybody has
flourished under him. Look, I throw Tom Brady out be
cause Tom Brady flourished under everybody. But when you look
at what he's done with Mac Jones. You look at
what he did with Jimmy Garoppolo. You look at what
he did with Jakobe bris said, you look at what
he did with Matt Jones.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Now you look at what he's doing with Drake May.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
His ability to get the quarterback to understand he's what
he wants and the quarterback to be an extension of
the offensive coordinator on the field. Yes, it's second to
none there like look Kyle shanahan and Sean McVay and
Andy Reid. But Josh McDaniel doesn't have to take a
back seat to any of them.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
No, No, absolutely not, because he has success with every
quarterback he's touched, every quarterback he's had to deal with,
They've had success on the field, and like you said,
the quarterback has always been an extension of it, of
him and outside of you know, the goat being Tom Brady.
The fact that he's been able to do it with
everyone he's been a part of says a lot about
him being the quarterback whisper.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, and wasn't he the guy? Was he was?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
He? Was?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
He the OC when Matt Castle, you know, I'm.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Not sure what was was it was it was it him?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
It was him, because that then he would up going
to Denver if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And he was.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
He was the head he was the head coaching.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Denver because Charlie Weiss left and the name Yeah, okay,
wasn't that'd have been two thousand and they lost the
Super Bowl in seven?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
You sure were You sure wasn't him? It wasn't Bill O'Brien,
Which one is.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It might have been him, or it might have been
him or Bill O'Brien, right, but he left and went
to the Broncos. He might have went to the Broncos
in nine though, So it was him that off that
that the Super Bowl? Who lost the Super Bowl? Bill O'Brien, Okay, yeah, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
It's uh, he his ability to to to.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Have a vision of Yeah, he wanted his offense to
look like and to communicate that with the quarterback and
get the quarterback on the same wave links so they
see things out of eye.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yes, he's he's he's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Like I said, he's had He's been a lot of
places as a head coach and yeah, his it doesn't work,
but play.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Call him when he's just responsible for one thing, ye,
the offense.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Oh Joe, Yeah, listen, he's one of the best. He's
one of the best.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
We saw something tonight, Oh Joe, the last I hadn't
seen this since Peanus, the last time I see somebody
miss a ball like this. It was Charlie Brown, but
Lucy moved it.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Wait a minute, what happened?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Did you see the kicker?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
You talking about my dog? Young ho?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, hey, hey, I'm not sure. You got to keep
your eye on the ball. You got to keep your
eye on the ball.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
And that listen to me.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Me as a kicker, you know, I understand the one
thing you do. You should never be able to miss
a kick. You should never be able to stub your toe.
It's all about the foot hand. I'm about the foot,
the foot and eye coordination.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Like Ojo, you you do that so often?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
How does that even happen?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Not? Oh okay, let's because we've seen guys. They get
too much of the ground and you kick the ball
and it doesn't go through. We see nobody miss the
whole damn ball and just doty do't it?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Hey? And the hold of looking back, the hold of.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Like hold on, you got to me down to this
down pot ain't about to tell my ass up.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Let me get up out of here.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, hey, hey, I've never seen that list.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I never saw in all my years of playing football,
I've seen him.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I've seen them hit the dirt like you know when
you when you when you swing the t and you
catch the dirt.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Before you hit the ball.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah, I seen, I've seen that. But I stub your toe. Oh,
and not even make contact with the balls at all.
That's the first I saw.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Look, I've seen guys kick the ball low and kick
the guy in the ass that snapping the ball to it.
I've seen guys get hitting the head with the ball
that's kicking it. But I've never seen he missed the
entire ball. But he wasn't even close to kicking the ball.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
No, not even close.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And I'm with Jackson Dark Jackson Dart, like, what the Yeah,
that's what I said too, That's exactly what I said.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, what the F.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I'm like, bro, I'm hoping that I'm hoping that that
doesn't cost him, that doesn't cost him his job.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
He lost his job?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, yeahhreuse it's shank some kicks. Yeah, you know, it's
it looks you have to have mental toughness to play
a professional sport and to be good at it. But
when you get them demons as a kicker, it's like
a golfer. You get David du Ball in baker Fish.
You see guys, you see got second basement chunk lad block.
(14:57):
They couldn't throw the ball to second first base.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
They playing secon It couldn't throw it.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
He was a picture. He had to move to the
outfield on because he couldn't get the ball. Crost to play.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But we got a problem. You got to you got
a problem.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You have to understand certain certain positions on the football field.
Certain positions they get chances over and over and over
the kids themselves kickers. Games are won and lost on
your goddamn leg. Games are one and loss, and you
can change the directory of a game and it's ending
on your leg. You don't have opportunity to be making
(15:30):
those kind of mistakes, and especially in games of importance.
Now it's a bad thing that the goddamn Giants are
two and eleven. So, I mean, it doesn't doesn't it
doesn't make any sense. But but but coaches want consistency
at that one position. If I have to be able
to count on one thing, it's having a kicker that
can be consistent for me and always give us points
(15:52):
once we get in field goal range.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
They might not be good right now, but I want
to be around when they do get good, so I
get an opportunity to kick. But doing stuff like this here,
guess what, O yoe, they said, I got to go
into the market. I gotta get me another kick. I
gotta get me a kicker because the one we don't,
the one that we have, he isn't reliable right And
I've got to be able to count on you, because
more times than not, these are one possession games. You
(16:16):
might have to kick the ball to get us. In overtime,
you might have to win it. We don't know. But
I need to be able to trust you. I can't
go out there. Lord have mercy, Please let him make
this kick every time you go out there. I mean,
I better have to pray every once in a while.
But if I gotta pray every time, I gotta pray
for the pat I gotta pray for the field goal.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I gotta pray you don't kick it out of bounds.
That's true. I mean, you know, I don't prayer.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Lord, don't, don't. Don't take this the wrong way. I
don't mind praying, but I want you use some of
those prayer for something.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Bill Fitzky, Yeah right, you know, you know it's funny too.
Also when it comes to kickers in the NFL. I
know there's thirty two of them. They're thirty two teams
that thirty two kickers. But they just like quarterbacks, they're like,
they're just like, I'm talk about the good quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I ain't.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I'm not talking about you.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You know, your regular your Aubrey's in Dallas, You're Cam Willis,
your McPherson's. You know, those top dudes. It's hard to
find those that are consistent. Hell, if you play for
the goddamn Cowboys, you get to the fifty to fifty
yard line? Wait, you not even you know you get
to the forty yard line, not even your forty ye.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
In range?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yep, you in range.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
McPherson, Cincinnati kicker, he just hit sixty five not too
long ago.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You get to the fifty You in range?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, Cam little kid a sixty Cam Little I said, yeah, Cam,
That's what I meant, Cam little hey man, come on, man,
it's only a few of.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Them, You're right, but uh yeah, yeah, that was a
that was a like I said, I could be in
the minority chat. But I don't think the Jazz as
far as people think they are. I think they got
got I think, you know, Brian Burns and Dexter Lawrence
coming along. Phibodeaux is out. Phibodeau was he out today?
Because I didn't see him. I didn't see him. I
(18:03):
think he's hurt. Yeah, I don't know if he's gonna
be back. I don't know. I don't know if they
picked up his option on show his fifty year options.
So I don't I'm not sure it's gonna be back.
And then plus the fact that you got Abdual Carter.
You took him with what the second pick, third third
pick in the draft, so there's a likelihood that you're
probably gonna move on from Thibodeau. I'm not sure. But
you got Brian Burns, who you played a lot of
(18:24):
money for. You got a lot of money tied up,
and he.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Got he got a lot of He got a lot
of sacks too. Now that Brian Burns.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But I'm saying so you got
pieces that you can build around.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Like I said, that's Lawrence is the top defensive lineman.
You got Brian Burns, who was the top air drudger.
You drafted Abdual Carter with the hope that he could
be the opposite of Brian Burns. So you have guys
that can play off each other like Lebronco got Bondo
and a Cooper, or you got Verse and you got
Young at the Rams. You got guys that can play
off of each other. And so you Hey, you slide
(18:56):
the protection one way. I get one on one a somebody.
I just I think I think the giants are really
really cold close. I just think the quarterback needs to
be a little smarter. Live to see another day. You
gotta know when the journey is over. Everything, Hey, everything,
I get it. If it's a situation like in the
super Bowl where John had to do the helicopter, that's
one thing. But in a game like this here you
(19:19):
on the sideline, bro, if you go out of bounds
and be two yards short as opposed to get the
first down and take that shot, bru you not built
for that. You're not built to take those kind of shots.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Nope, not not at all, Not at all. He's exciting though,
A he's exciting to watch.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Oh yo.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Mike Kafka was asked why Abdul Carter didn't play the
first quarter. It was just my decision not to play him.
This is the second time in three weeks. Yes, sir,
oh yo, you got drafted guy, the third pick in
the draft. Ain't no way you just make a decision
to arbitrarily sit him out.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well, obviously something happened that it was just a this
discipline reasons. We don't know exactly what it was.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh Joe, he got disciplined a couple of weeks ago.
What's not resonating to him?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
You know, you remember he fell asleep and mister walkthrough.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Oh you know, hey, things happen, YadA, YadA, y'all, it
ain't gonna happen again, lesson learned.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Hell we are basically two three inside of a month. Yeah,
and we got this again. Oh yoe, what is it
that he's not getting bro? This is professional football. You're
not at Penn State. You're not at Penn State, and
you can get away with that at Penn State because
you were the guy. There are greater expectations of you.
(20:41):
Abdul Carter. Oh Joe, yes, this man think about it now.
This man said, you know what I want fifty six. Well,
if I can't get fifty six, let me get the
double hockey sticks, let me let me get let me
get level. Do he understands what those jerseys mean. And
first of all, fifty six you ain't gonna name. You
can't name, you can't name two. First of all, I
(21:02):
think LT is the greatest defensive player ever. I can
make a case LT is the greatest football player ever.
Just give me a little time. I'll let you debate
who you wanted to bake. You could take Brady, you
could take Bayton, you could take Jerry. And I can
make a case that Lawrence Taylor is the greatest football
player ever because he's the guy. He made two position famous.
No other player has made two position famous. He made
(21:25):
the edge rusher famous, and he made the left tackle
famous because if you couldn't get a left tackle to
block ing, you couldn't beat the Giants. And if you
couldn't find an edge rusher like LT to rush the quarterback.
You couldn't put pressure on the quarterback. So he made
two position famous go back and stuffy Like I said,
I know, look LT, you know the drugs and all
that other stuff, and he had some stuff off the
(21:46):
field after his career. But I don't think people realize
there are a lot of guys there's one three defensive
player of the years and stuff. People don't realize how
good LT was. They don't, they do, not really you.
I mean, whoever you think the best foot but the
best defensive player that you've seen with your own eyes,
(22:06):
if you're under the age of forty, whoever, the best
the player is, make a case and I'll make a
case for LT.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
And you when I'm done, you're.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Like, yeah, LT the best, Yeah, man, whoever? And I
think there have been some fabulous I played in the
era with LT, with Reggie Rus, with Time with Ray Lewis,
with Mike Singletary, with Leslie O'Neill, Howie Long.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I played in the league with some great ones.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yes, but he's different. He different. He set the bar,
He set the standard for that position.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I tell you what, when you name your top five
defensive players, he ain't never left off that list.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
And most of the time he's number one. Most of
the time he's won.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
You're absolutely right, But man, look at oh Joe watching
watching the Patriots, I'm seeing how disciplined and how well
coached they are.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Well, you know, everything is easy when you have a
quarterback too. Uh oh, you understand that when you have
a quarterback like that, that with his decision making is
as good as good as it as good as it is. Man, goddamn,
but listen, Jos's McDaniels. I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know what it is like. Everything fits over
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there offensively. Not only do you have a quarterback, you
have the pieces, the complimentary pieces that fit just right.
You understand how to put each player in and in
the right positions to play to their strengths and hide their.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Weaknesses if there are any. But every player has weaknesses.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah for sure, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Do you play to a player of strength and you
stay away from his weakness as much as you can.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, And he's in Josh's massive that and Drake may
is having a f and ball doing so hunk them
boys eleven and two man.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Drake, sohore, Drake, this is sophomore year.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Right, Yes, they won ten games after losing the after
losing the previous year they lost thirteen only the ninety
nine coats because when Peyton got there, they lost all
those games. In the next year, they were the number
one seed in AFC.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, now that's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, But when you have that guy, when you have
that guy, when you have that one foundational piece, yeah, hell,
I can build anything on a solid foundation.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
But that's all it is, that's all it takes.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Oh yeah, oh Joe, I bet hard Knock's wishing they
were following the Cleveland Browns around this year. Now it's
Dylan gabriel significant other jumping into the drama TikTok saying,
my fiance Dylan is not playing. I have thoughts about that,
but I'm not gonna share it. She then captured another
with Brown's loss, what's new? But then this is he
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got into it just agreement with a comment on a
post and row Actually everyone in the building wants him
to play, but you wouldn't know because you've never been
into the NFL or coach.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Right, well you know you.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I mean, listen, we see this all the time. We
see family members, family members display their frustrations whatever they
may be, really not understanding how the game works, you know,
the ins and outs of it. And you know she
wants some fiance to be on the field. You know
he's not on the field. Shador has been chosen to
be the court.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
She knows everybody in the building wants him to play.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I mean they've been on the news for.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
How long I'm asking you, how does she know that
unless somebody pillow talking.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Oh come on, man.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Let chance let when you're in Cincinnati, let Chancey say, Man,
my brother ain't getting the ball.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
They need to throw the ball my ball or trading?
What you tell me?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
What you think the people in Cincinnati and what the
Bengals organization you're gonna think, where did that come from?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Oh? That that that that I said something you.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Want to be I fans up. You know they came
that came from you. That Even if it didn't, that's
what they're going to believe. That's why I always tell family,
friends and loved ones be mindful of what you say,
because whether they said it or not, it's going back
to them.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yeah, I mean we you know that's his wife. You
know they have those conversations. I'm sure he does. Of
course I want to play. Of course I want to start.
You know, you you go home and who's the one
who's the one person you have piece and convent to
when it comes in with you?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Oh honey, how is your dead work?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Well?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Shit, I ain't starting.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Those are conversations that I had between a couple, a
husband and wife, a fiance.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
You know, I mean that that's that's normal.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
And she's vnning and her frustrations about oh damn, here
we go, what's new?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
We're gonna lost again.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You have to be careful now, ocho, because back then
there was no social media that your significant other could
go to.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Ay.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Now there's a platform called social media that they can
go to and disseminate information all across the world. And
it's stan taneous. So even if you were to say
and then hit delete, is gone.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Oh it's too late.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
It's gone.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
It's too late once you hit sence a rap.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Man, Lord, have mercy.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I just I just wish people understood that it's it
makes it put Dylan in a bad spot because I
don't believe see when she said the locker when she's
hold on you say, uh, actually the building. When she
said the building, I don't think I think it's from
locker room up. I don't think it's the locker room down.
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I don't think it's the locker room. I think it's
from above the locker room up the building. I think
that's the executive I think that's the front office.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Hold on, we already we already know that though we
already know that based on the words versus based on
things that have been said.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
You know, you know that part.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
But down down, down below where it really matters, the
meeting potatoes of the team. You I don't need this.
I don't need to say no more because I can't.
I can't throw anybody else under the bus, you know,
like like I slipped up long time ago.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I don't want to do that again. But that's what
they that's what they want.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Just be.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
That's what they want inside that building.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
The people that's going to war. And I'm not telling
you what. I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm
telling you what I know.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
What I don't understand is that people need to understand
you're not the center of attention. If you weren't dating Dylan.
Dylan Gabriel. How many people you think would know who
she is? That's what anybody unless you Taylor Swift. Now,
Taylor Swift is a different animal. Everybody know who she is,
even if she does not dating drive. But when you
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look at it, see Russ, Okay, that's a different that's
a different dynamic. But we we're talking about somebody that
doesn't have that name, that name or brand recognition that
you're only known. Oh, that's Dylan Gabriel Freance. Oh, that's
such a that's old Joe's wife. Man, that's O Choe
significant other. So anything that gets said out of her mouth,
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that at Carl that relates back to football, O Choe
talking ass. That's how it is. I'm sorry. It's just
like stuff at work, when stuff come back to work. Oh,
I told you that. I told you that. I've seen
situations get messy because something got said in the locker room.
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Somebody went back and told their wife a girlfriend woo woo.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Woo woo woo woo woom now and it got it
and it got all over the place.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Huh, all over the place, damn.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And you know where it came from because we talked
about it in the locker room, locker room, and ain't
none of them. Ain't none of the wise girlfriends, significant others,
beyonces or whatever they want to be within the locker
room to hear. So one of you, mofo said it,
you're mind and and in that group it ain't but
a small group. It ain't like we're talking aloud across
the y'all across the room.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Uh, we're talking in a small group, four or five.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, so practice field, it's easy to pendpoint who says something.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Absolutely absolutely, I always ask somebody, hey, man, sewan, let
me tell you something. I'd be like, okay, who else
you told? Man, I ain't told nobody because I don't
want you to tell somebody else, and then they get out,
and then you talking about I ain't tell nobody, but
shop you a damn lie because if you already told
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somebody else, don't tell me. Yeah, it's it's Chad, it's
just a it's just a bad spot to put your
significant other end in the locker room because.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I'm telling you how how how I absolutast think.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Be at football, basketball, baseball when something gets out and
if team related, they was like what she must have
heard him say that he's saying that, even if it's
not true, she could have just been going out on
a whim on her own and saying.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
How she feels.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Dylan might not upset anything, but it's still gonna attach it.
It's just like anything else. If somebody had done something
the first person, the first place.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
They go, look, yeah, hey, you see that, Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
First of all, why you got my jersey? Don't you?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Why you got my jerseys? Hey?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Listen, hey, hey, when I ate, let me tell you something.
When I when I hold on, let me tell you
how I got the jersey.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
See when you was out of town, right when you
were traveling and you were doing them alcohol Hey, listen,
you were doing them alcohol signings, and I had to
break in your house, right and I had to steal
my trophies.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I snatched one of these jerseys up off for you
slash one of.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
These jersey trade? Huh, how about we making trade?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
No, I don't worry about I'm gonna keep this. I'm
gonna keep this. I'm gonna I mean, I'm gonna keep
this for the rest of my trophies. Hey, this is
the real deal.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
To look look at the sleeves. Oh, yeah, oh Joe,
I got the home in a way.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I died.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
What I tell you what when you send the rest
of my wards, I got you.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate this. It's heavy. It's just stup
to this. This is the real deal.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Oh yeah, hold on, hold on and we we looked
about the same. See the guns, yes.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Sir, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Just Chad.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It's it's kind of like, Oh Joe, it's somebody in
jail and they escape. What's the where the first? The
first place they go is where they mama.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
They girl, he ain't got no.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
He gotta be going the girl.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Hey, think about it.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Somebody saying something, then it has to do with the
locker room the first, even if even like I said,
even if that's her, even those her own thoughts, and
she I like to believe she's smart enough and she
can have her own thoughts, right, But that's not what
people are going to believe.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
No, not not at all.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
And I don't I don't think she's thinking about it
that way anyway. She was just more self expressing her
feelings based on how she feels about wanting her husband
or husband to be you know to actually be out
there actually playing, so but she knows. She knows better
now because she's gonna get the backlash and then it's
gonna fall on Dylan Gabriel and he gonna get pissed.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
You can't be doing that. You know that they they're
both new to this. They're both new to this, and
she will understand. You gotta be careful before you before
you hit sin, you got to think because once you
hit it, it's there for life.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And guess what else? So, Yo, guess who's gonna get
asked about this? You think they're gonna ask twelve about this? Yeah,
you think they're gonna ask the fans skill about this?
Of course somebody say, don't really have shouldn't look they
should be like, Okay, what do you guys need to
do to get a win?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
What do you guys need? Blah blah blah. I got now,
I got it.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Now I've got to answer answer questions about something A
lady that ain't never ain't only been going to the
game to see Dylan. Yeah, now I gotta answer questions
about what she said.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
They ain't got.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Nothing to do that's gonna help us win A football
game on Joe, nothing whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Hey, it just answer the service ask unnecessary, unnecessary for
you to the fire.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So I just like Chad, I would just recommend anybody,
young ladies, if you you you you're dating a guy
in college or high school and you guys might be together,
just keep that in mind. Everything you say that's related
to football is gonna be tied back to him. And
you might have your you might be like you might
be your own person, you have your own thoughts, you
have your own mind that I get.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
To talk, I'm, I'm, I can speak freely.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
But they're gonna tie back to him, and that's not
fair and that's not fair to him. Now, you don't
want to put that kind of stress. You don't want
to put that kind of pressure, and you don't want
to sign shine that kind of light on him. So
just just just be mindful of that that your actions.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Gonna reflect back on him.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
It's gonna it's gonna tie back, it's gonna tie back
to him, just like if you do something out.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Oh man, that's man. Oh man, you said, man, you
heard what happened to oat your girl? Man? You hurt man? Man, Man,
they say sharp girl was acting.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
A fooling them all. Yeah, it's different when you date.
It's a leb entertainer, actor, actress. It's a different set
of rules, and you have to move differently. You got
to oh, I move how you can't do that? You
can because now you can't just think about you. You
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have to think about that other person and the possible
jeopardy of parels you might put them in. And I
don't think enough people do that now, but you should.
I mean the really ones. Oh Joe, you ain't never
seen You ain't never seen Peyton Mann and White or
heard her say anything?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Have you no? See?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
That's that's a different type of understanding.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I had no idea that she walked up to me.
She said, you don't know who I am. I say,
I sure don't. She said, I'm Ashley Man. I say,
how you do it?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Had a great There's I mean, so many people that
you wouldn't even know that's their why, because they're like, hey,
stay in the shadows, do what I do.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
But some understand they have to play the background. Some
understand they have to play the background and they're not
the main character. I understand I'm not the main character,
and I know my place and I know my role.
There are a lot like that. Then there are something
that want to be front center. Mm hmm, okay, that's
my man.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
I need to be I need to be front center
right along with him.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
It's it's different, every everybody different, And it also depends
on who you're dating. Yes, some people date you just
because they want to be front and center.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, and quarterbacks first of all. Quarterbacks bar is a
different level. Yes, you basically dating the CEO. Yes, you
date the CEO the guy, so you definitely, you definitely
have to be willing to take a back seat. You
gotta be like like Savannah James. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
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she ain't. Hey, she gonna do a little podcast. She
gotta look whatever she got going on. Look, they try
to beat up for Asha current. But I'll understand what
she's saying. I understand what she's saying. But man, I
just I just I just hated it. I just you know,
understand they're young, though, O Yo, some things you know something.
(37:56):
Sometimes you have to make a mistake before you understand
the gravity of what you're in and then you get
a true understanding of what you're dealing with. So hopefully
she learned that. Just keep that to yourself. Okay, the
building wants them to play if and when that time comes,
he gets an opportunity to get back in there. He
plays well, he's over the hold down the spot. But
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don't you go on social media and act up? Oh
Joe shador Sada says he's working hard to build trust
with Jerry Judy. She says, it's going to take some
time that chemistry with guys like Jerry. I'm more of
a trust person, so we have to spend some time
on the task. It's just it's just and I told you, Joe,
anytime you anytime you start doing this right.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Here, yeah, I listen. It's a disconnect, you know, it's
a disconnect. Once that Wi Fi get on point, it's
gonna be alright. You have to understand these two ain't
work together.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
He mystery is very important.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I think people those that have played the game at
at at any level, you understand. It's one thing when
you get to the NFL, right, you have to.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Be able to you have to work with your receivers.
You gotta work with receivers because.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Just because you have a ball in your hand, you
have a guy out there running routes doesn't mean you
have an insignt connection. True, there's certain little nuances that
you have to have, certain rhythms and timing that you
have to know that over a course of a training camp,
over a course of the off season.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
That you get to know your receivers.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I mean, right now, I understand they're frustrations, they're not winning.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Judy wants to get the ball.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Judy wants to be productive in that offense, and things
aren't going the way he like right now.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
But the problem that people are gonna have is that,
first of all, you do or the is a rookie
quarterback in only a second start, like you said, but
what about the previous eight games when Dylan Gabriel was
in there and Joe Flack was in there? So how
many times do you do do we see that at
that kind of attitude on the sideline right, Because I'm
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sure Dylan Gabriel said a bunch of them, he killed
a bunch of worms. It knocked a couple of birds
out of the sky, and we didn't see this. So
people like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Jude,
the man just got in this on his second game started.
He's a rookie quarterback. If he's a second year, third
year guy and y'all still not on the same page,
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I would get it. But in this scenario, it's hard
to get people to be on your side, considering, if
I'm not mistaken, he lead the league in drops and
you had a thirty five yard completion that you let
the guy come from behind you and knocked the ball out.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So that's what people see. Now.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Last year he had an unbelievable season. Jameis did a
great job of throwing in the ball.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Crazy last year, yes, crazy, but.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
You have to But oh Joe, now, we can't take
one season and forget about the years that was in
Denver before and what's going on right now.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
We're not gonna do that. I just won't. I won't.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
I want Jerry to understand that this is a rookie
quarter of a rookie quarterback in only his second start.
How about I mean, maybe y'all spend some extra time.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
After practice, after after practice Wednesday, Thursdays, Friday, stay out,
stay stay out a little.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Bit longer, you know.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Get listen, hell, me and uncle men mentor me and
uncle well, me and Carson used to do that, used
to do that, and I'm I talk about when he
first got there, from when he first got there, third year,
fourth year, fifth year, we get We got in that
extra timing just to know, boy, you can have we
can have a goddamn blindfold on.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
He can throw that ball and know exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Where I'm gonna be at right every time, on rhythm,
regardless of brush, regardless of whoever's in front of, regardless
of a defense. So when we were out there, it
was like it was damn it was damn near seven
on seven. Like that's how sharp and on point and
precise we were. It was like it was damn near
like seven on seven.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
But it takes time to build relationship. You just don't
go you just don't go in like okay, yeah we
got it. No, it doesn't happen like that. You've got
to put time in. Y'all need to sit in a
meeting room. Okay, tell me what you're thinking on this route,
tell me what you're thinking on display right here. That's
how That's how it was with John. I'm like, okay,
tell me what you're thinking. But if the guy's playing
you like this expected on the outside like this, I'm
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gonna put it on your back shoulder or you know, ay,
like we were talking about when that guy's running and
I can't beat him over the top o Yo, he said,
I'm a back shoulder you so just know that the
ball is gonna come, You're gonna have to open your
hips and catch it.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
On your back shoulder.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
And you know what's funny is I like that we
talked about this too, And I don't want to talk
about the way. The way I view Jerry Judy and
the type of receiver he is is they're having problems.
They're having problems and issues offensively over there in Cleveland.
But I've always seen Jerry Judy is not a problem
but a solution to the problem, especially with the skill
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set that he has as a receiver regards to the drop,
regardless of the issues he's may have had, understanding what
he can do when it comes to putting people in
the goddamn blender, being able to define the mismatches for
him offensively, knowing that.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
He can beat. He can beat whoever is out there
at dB.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
He can beat like, let me say this again, he
can beat whoever there is out there at dB.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
He's a mismatch for damn thar anybody unless we.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Talk about you know, one of the top two better
dbs in the NFL. His route runner is tremendous. His
ability to separate the tremendous. So I don't even understand
where the issues are coming from, you know, especially seeing
them with the animations and theatrics on the sideline. Yes, yeah,
let's goddamn easy. You know the fact that he's one
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of those few players. It's only a handful of them.
You know, I don't got to worry about you here.
I need you to just get open.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Just do that for me. Just get open.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Oh sho you look at Judy as the number one?
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah, not even close.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
You don't think so? Oh sorry, hey you listen. Can
I say something real quick?
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Yes, I know I know some of maybe people in
the chat maybe you might not be fond of him, But.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I like him.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I thought he I thought he should have been I
said when they came out he came out that draft
with CD, with Jedda, with Ruggs.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I said he should have been the number one receiver.
Take it.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, so I hey, and I was happy that he
would but O Joe.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Hey simply simply this simply this being able to get open,
beat man the man and create separation. That's that's all
I need because the ones that are number twos can't
do that consistently. The people that are number two cannot
do that consistently. Those all receivers that are number one receivers.
My officer coordinator doesn't have to hide me. We it's
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third down. We need you to get open man the man.
I don't give a fuck, almost curse, I don't care
what it is.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
Get open. Jerry Judy can do that. He can do that.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I'm just saying, you.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Can name twenty receivers, twenty five receivers better than that.
I mean, he'll number one on that team because you
got that. Look if you're talking about a number one,
because he has to be a number one on that team.
But you'll go twenty five deep receivers before you take him.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
So we we basic things off skill set. You're basing
off numbers. We're we talking about.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
His skills are not conducive. Look at his numbers in Denver.
Look at his numbers now.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
I just said, are you talking about his skill set
or we talk about.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Number Well, everybody's a number one if you just look
at skill set because everybody can get open. I can
stack up a bunch of god yes they can. No,
I'm not saying. Look, let me take that back. Everybody
can't get open. But how many? How many if we
were to have a draft right now and you start
taking receivers, how long before Judy gets selected? No?
Speaker 3 (45:50):
You you throwing, you throwing, you throwing in different scenarios
that I'm not talking about.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I'm just about He's not oh Joe, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
He's a two. He's a solid two, a solitude. He's
not a one receiver?
Speaker 4 (46:05):
What what is? What is?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
What is your number one?
Speaker 4 (46:09):
What's your primeser for being the number one receiver?
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I'm curious they build a game plan to stop you?
Are they building game plans to stop Jerry Judy? You
know damn well, they're not building, no game playing. They're
building a game plan to stop Ojo sinko. They build
game plans to stop Shining Sharp. He is not a
number one because you know why, Chad, if he was
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the number one, Ojo would have said, hell, yeah, no,
I'm I'm are they building Are the defensive building game
plans to stop him?
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Or no?
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Hold on, so let's go. We got thirty two NFL teams, right.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I asked you let me no, no, no, no, you can't
do that. No, let me finish.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
You got thirty two NFL teams.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
So every time every team plays that has a number
one receiver, the defense is game plan.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
To stop their number one after when we come in,
when we come in, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Or when we come in on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Is he circled as a d A guy that we
got to stop. If we don't stop him, that's what
the number one he is. I'm not saying that every
week he's gonna get that, but we gotta focus on him.
We don't stop him, We can't. It's hard for us
to be.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
It's only five receivers in the NFL that teams have
to do that too.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Oh Joe only not a number one and you It'syjo.
I get he's from Miami five, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson,
A J. Brown, Ceedee, Lamb Pickings. It's only a few receivers.
Nico Collins is a number one, Tyreek Hill is a
number one. Brian Thomas Jr. Is a number one. The
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guy that Giants is a number one. Picking CD is
a number one. Terry mcclaurin is a number one. The
guy that they got two guys in the Drake London
is a number one.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Stop this notion, Oh Joe, oh Joe, don't do that.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
You just throwing anybody name right there?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Talk Are they number ones? Yes or no? Who are
they number ones? Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (48:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:06):
You so hold on.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
So when you play Atlanta Falcons, the focal point is
stopping Drake London Drake.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
The last one is that he's that best receiver. Okay,
you're not the best receiver. Okay js js C is
not a number one.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
Okay, now now we're talking. No, no, we're not. We're
talking now, we're talking. Now, we're talking.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Now.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
I like I like that, Joe Nay, I'm I'm I'm
basing on.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
I'm basing it off. What you're able to do? I
need skill set.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
He's had one year, So what about those years that
he didn't do nothing? So all of a sudden, so
he just acquired the skill set last year. The previous
three years he lost it and he's lost it now,
but he had it last year.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Nah mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
I'll tell you what you take, Jared Judy Davonte's smith.
You take Jared Judy or Jaylen Waddle. I'm just I'm
just asking. Those are guys that play too, So would
you take them? Would you take? Would you take Jared
Judy Or would you take Davonte Smith? Would you take?
Would you take Jared Judy or Jaylen Waddle? Would you take?
(49:30):
Would you take him? Or you take Peers? Would you
take Peers in uh in Indy? Or would you take
Michael Phillman Jr. Over Judy? Which one you take it?
I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
I'm giving you. Everybody has to take Judy.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
So listen, you hear.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
You have everything, all the all the comparison and the
teams and and and and how you're doing and how
you're doing that?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Right?
Speaker 4 (49:52):
You see what you're doing?
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Well?
Speaker 4 (49:53):
You you you.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Talk about you talk about you talk about players that
are all on competent offenses, that get that get balls
with quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
You see you see what you're doing. Are you trying?
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Are you trying?
Speaker 4 (50:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (50:04):
No, no, you trying to compare the goddamn ship circus. He
got the fucking deal with it, Cleveland, And you're naming
the Dolphins. You naming Daniel Jones over there throwing the ball,
looking like goddamn Tom Brady reincarnated, Like, come on, man.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
What about belief neighbors? How was he? What was the
giants last year?
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (50:24):
He was gangster.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
And he.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
That rum and fell that they had them with the
giants last year. He had one hundred and something catches.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, they yeah, they threw that thing to him like crazy.
I'm just I'm just this is this is this is
a great this is this is a great comp I
like this conversation.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
I like this conversation.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
But let me tell you something also, Situations matter where
you are, matters, quarterback matter. It's so many factors that
come into play, especially when you start naming other receivers
on other teams that are in totally different offenses with
good quarterbacks and great offensive systems.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
That that's all.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
So it's like, it's it's almost unfair they had that
conversation in comparison.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
But let's let let's let's let's move on.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Well, ninety percent of the chat disagree with you. Ninety
percent of the chat say he's not an under one.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
Any percent of the chat can't cover me, no matter
of fact.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Hold on, one hundred percent of the chat can't cover me,
and tell me nothing about playing receiver.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Maybe fifteen years ago you had a very compelly argument.
Now Jerry Judy leads the NFL and dropped and drop
percentage which qualified on target pass he dropped by receiver.
Judy has dropped almost nineteen percent, six percent higher than
any other receiver held chill, the oh chold have been
(52:02):
a hell of attorney y'all. Oh Yo, No, damn where
y'all guilty? Oh yo, to hear yo? Whatever it is
the weapon, Oh yoda gave it to the lawyer. Oh yo,
look at my client. They do this and you got
me hot man talking about the checker. Hey, you got
me hot talking about the Chacker company. Man, I'm hot,
O Joe. Hours after the Eagles lost to the Bears
(52:23):
on Friday, Philly o'cle Kevin Petula was a victim of
a house getting egg. Petulla has been heavily criticized this
season for the underperformance of the Eagles offense. The team
ranks at the bottom third of nearly every offensive category.
O Joe, consider how much egg costs? May damn there
like eight nine dollars a day.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
Listen, they told, they told me we were in a
financial crisis. They told me the economy was bad, and
we got people out here wasting eggs to egg somebody house. Listen,
I love the Philly fans. Philly fans are very passionate,
a very passionate fan base. They travel well, They support
their team through thick and thin. They ain't really had
too much thin. But goddamn, this is the same fan
(53:04):
base that through snowballs that Santa Claus years ago.
Speaker 4 (53:07):
I hear that story all the time.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
He deserved it. He didn't bring no gifts.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
So something like this doesn't surprise me, being how serious
they are about their football team. They won the Super
Bowl last year. Things haven't been the same. The offense
doesn't look the same. So who is the blame whose
name keeps coming up over and over and over. Listen
that they're going a little too far. They're going a
(53:35):
little too far. They they didn't have twenty four hour
security at Kevin Tulou's house, so he doesn't have this
issue anymore. They don't do the players like that. I mean,
I mean, I'm damn.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
I'm there for it. Look, I get it. I get that.
You know, fans get upset, they want to win. I mean,
they're so passionate.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
You know, fan is short for fanatic, and when you're
fanatic about something, you sometimes you know, you go over
the edge and you get fanatic.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Holl about it.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yeah, uh, that's not too excuse because I don't want you.
I don't want you guys to take this the wrong
way to say it is because they're upset. They have
a right to be upset. Boo all that you want to,
but don't don't damage the man property.
Speaker 4 (54:17):
Yeah yeah, come on that that's too far.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Don't too far damage the man's property. That's what I'm saying. Look,
they need to get this thing fixed. It was.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
It was a lot easier for Jaylor Hurst to play
quarterback last year because don't Joe he was throwing the
wide open windows, because you know, it was single courage,
because we gotta get this. Eph got down to stop Saquan.
Gotta stop Saquan. Look, he's not the greatest throw of
the football, and that's not a knock. There are a
lot of guys that's been able to make in the
(54:47):
league without being great throws of the football. Everybody, Look,
everybody gonna be Aaron Rodgers, everybody gonna everybody gonna be
a Patrick Mahomes and some of these great throws in
the football.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Some people are gonna have to win.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
Games a different way, right, and so you know we
we I think the thing is with Jalen is that
we look at him.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
And it's.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
It's not as aesthetically pleasing to the eye. Is he
as great a throwing the football as that? No?
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
You might say that, well he wanted super Okay, if
that's your only measure, take off. But there have been
a lot of great There have been a lot of
players that have won Super Bowls. That's not as good
as some of the players that have it, right, But
they need to figure this out and what's going on.
Jalen's gonna have They're gonna have to trust Jalen. Jayleen's
gonna have to trust them, and he's gonna have to
(55:39):
take some risk. It just is yeah, because I just
I just don't see a scenario now, o Joe where
this running game, this running game ain't even close to
what it was last year.
Speaker 4 (55:53):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
And the fact that it hasn't got going this late
into the season is probably not going to show up
and probably not going to the shore. I mean, I
mean this this far into the season. But one thing
I do know is I wouldn't count Jaalen out honestly,
regardless of whether we could run the ball, regardless of
how people feel about him being able to throw the ball.
I think they have they have, they all have a
(56:15):
winning mentality, and that God damn that quarterback, he has
the worst, the worst when it comes to just is
football football owned. He don't smile, he don't make no jokes.
He's locked in and he's been locked in since.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
They win that Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
So if they're going to win, I think he's gonna
have to be on the shoulders of him and on
the arm of that quarterback. And I think having a
j Brown, having Devonte Smith, I feel they're going to
be okay. Kevin Depula, I mean, mister Petullo, He's still
gonna be calling the plays. He's still gonna be calling
the plays. So it's gonna the honest the owners and
winning those games since you can't run and gonna have
(56:56):
to come from Jalen.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
I think the thing is for me, O Joe.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
I'm gonna see if he's gonna be the offensive coordinator
next year because I remember when they went through that law. Yeah,
and he said he believed in them that quarter. He
wasn't the court, he wasn't the coordinator. The following year, right,
and uh, that's when they bought Kellen Moore in and
Kellen Moore they got called the plays.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
They went to the Super Bowl and they won it.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
So we'll see, I mean, everybody said, oh yeah this,
we know we win as a team, we lose as
a team, but we'll see how much are you willing
to take losing as a team before you make changes?
Speaker 2 (57:30):
Right, because we'll.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
Say they listen, they gonna make them.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
But you know the coaches, you know, Sirihanna gonna say
all the right stuff publicly, he gonna say all the
right stuff they do every everything is always politically correct
when they speak. But he know their issues because job,
you know, jobs, jobs are at stake. I know you're
just coming off a Super Bowl win last year, but
I mean, hell, I mean, what's going on this year
is unacceptable, you know, by their standards, by not just
(57:56):
the team standards, not the organization, hell by the fan
standards as well. That's why they're egging the goddamned coach house.
Were not feeling, were not, Man, what's up?
Speaker 4 (58:08):
Now you got you better get it. We better to
get it together, dickhead, figure it out.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yes, tough, because like when you win the super Bowl,
that's the expectation.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yes, people think super Bowls are easy. People think you
just oh, once you win it, you just keep winning
and winning and winning and winning.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
People don't realize like when Tom, When Tom, they like, okay,
they wanted one, the mister playoffs in O two and
then they won three and four. They didn't win in five,
they didn't win six, they got back in seven, they
didn't get back in eight, they got back in ten.
Then it miss eleven, twelve, thirteen, they got back and forth.
It's bro it's hard. It's hard to repeat. That's why
(58:47):
they have only been a handful. They've been what fifty
nine super Bowl winners. Only a handful of those are repeating.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
It's hard. It's it's not it's not something that's easy
to do because you.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Have so much turnover as far as like you get
your friends, you can only sign a few, and then
people come steal all some of your best players that
you can't resign.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Some of your best coaches, they get other jobs.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
On yo, they go to college, they get the jobs
in the NFL, and then you all, this is the
biggest problem that you have. You get guys wanting to
do more with what they did last time was enough,
So everybody wants to be the reason why. So now
I need to do more? Oh yo, you call eighty
(59:30):
five palls last year, Man, I need to catch a
hundred now, No, eighty five was plenty.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah. Yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (59:38):
I think is like, hey, what we're in week fourteen?
Speaker 2 (59:41):
Right?
Speaker 4 (59:42):
Yes, God damn, but the season over?
Speaker 2 (59:46):
It is? It is two months.
Speaker 4 (59:52):
Do you think they got a chance to turn it around?
Speaker 3 (59:54):
What you think if it ain't turned around, that at
least at least show signs.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Of I think it's gonna be coming on, Jalen. I
don't think they're gonna be able to run the football.
I don't because the offensive line isn't the same. Your
centers banged up, Your right guard is not very good,
Your right tackle is not Lane Johnson. Right Dickerson is injured.
You know, he had his knee operated on before the season,
so he's basically out there on one leg, just gutting
(01:00:19):
it up. They're not the same offensive line. They're not
the same offensive team.
Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Listen listen for for Tulo's sake. I hope things turn around,
you know. I think he needs to have twenty four
hour security outside his home from this point on. I mean,
it's unfortunate that it has come to this, but I
think he also needs to understand how serious the fans
of Philly take their football.
Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
This ain't no joke.
Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Uh, the fans of Philly they beat up Santa claus Man.
They hit him with snowballs. Like you know, you know
how serious that is.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
I do.
Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
We took Santa Man and people in Philly don't play.
Then they do not play.
Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
There's a certain standard that you must live by as
a coach, as a player, and we don't meet that
guy damn standard.
Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
What happens, You get egged, you get snowballs. I mean, no,
no disrespect. You know, I'm not trying to be funny.
Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
I'm just saying, like Philly men and fans they don't play,
they travel well, they support, and they mean business.
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Speaker 3 (04:44):
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hit it, yeah, hit it.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
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(05:10):
was a very uh oh yeah trivia out here. Oh yeah,
he went over because he rushing, receiving, rushing a receiving
Oh you. As I mentioned before, the Patriots beat the
Giants by the spot thirty three to fifteen. New England
led thirty to seven at the half Giants Special Teams.
Guess what Marcus Jones, who will be the All Pro
(05:32):
return of this year, a ninety four yard part return
to really break it open and Christian Ellis, Boy, he oh, Joe,
I told you? Yeah, I told you last night. You
say I said, Oh Joe, he ain't learned his lesson yet.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, he ain't.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
How he went flying When you see a guy going
flying like that, that, yeah, he's totally relaxed. He didn't
brace himself. So he's running because when they teach you
to spread, what they tell you to do, relax, So
he's totally relaxed. This is the only time they get
you're a runner. They can't hit you. Nothing like that.
No other time. They're not going to pull up. They
(06:09):
are going to try to unload. And boy, he had
a Jackson Dark must have an air tag on them.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So boy when.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, I don't even know what the air tag is,
but I hear people are talking about it. Yeah, you
were talking about AirTag that they can find somebody's location.
Well listen, he found his location. And then guess what,
Joe came on the kick off.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah to Fleet, Yeah he caught him. Jackson Dark has
has to be safe. He has to be safe. He's
a special player. He's going to be special what he
can do when he has a ball in his hands.
I've been able to extend plays, make things happen off
the script, outside of the scheme that outside of the
plays that are called.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
He's gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
But he has to learn to protect himself and know
know when the journey's over, It's okay to step out
of bounds.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
It's okay to slide. You don't have to be taken
on DV.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You don't have to take on linebackers and improve that
you're tough. That team, that team is gonna be good.
Once they get leaked back, once they get scatter go back,
they gonna be nice.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I maybe get maybe get a playmaking safety or a corner,
maybe an offensive line. But because I think they have
the pieces on yo, I do think they have pieces.
The Patriots are really really good. The only thing they're
really really well coached. We know that about break Yes,
we saw that in Tennessee. Tennessee, y'all made a big mistake.
Y'all made a big mistake. You should have never let
(07:29):
this man out of the building. Coaches like him don't
come along often. You let Dack Henry out of the building,
you let a J. Brown excuse me out of the building.
You you can't keep having turnover like that. You can't
be personal, I mean, because you get if you get
too involved as an owner, it becomes personal.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You get rid of the guy.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And I think that's why the Patriots were so was
lasted so long, is that mister Kraft stayed away. He
didn't let his personal feeling out what he thought about
Coach Belichick get involved, and then you can let things.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Blossom the way they should be.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But man, when you look at them, Drake made twenty
four to thirty one oh Yo two eighty two to
two touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You've got a twenty nine carriage above above nineteen Hunter
Henry four for seventy three, Romadre Stevenson three for thirty
three for forty excuse me. Boote had four for thirty
five and one. Kyle Williams had one for thirty three
and one Tuck. They are very good. Look, they ain't
got nobody that they don't got no big name received
that jump off the board at you. Oh, they ain't
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got hey Drake may have, but they got that guy.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah. See if you got that guy, O yo, I don't.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I don't think people understand how good Drake may has been.
Like I'm obviously I knew he was good. I didn't
know he was this good.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, I didn't agree. I agree.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I think he's He has a completing percentage of about
almost damn near seventy percent. Yeah, seventy percent dating back
to last year. And I'm not talking about seventy percent.
Completing percent is throwing screen, not bubble screen, not check downs,
not throwing to the running back, about play over twenty
yards twenty yards or better? And that lets me know,
for one, he not scared letter rip. Now only is
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he not scared to letter rip. He is insanely accurate
with the ball as well. So and you know what,
like about the receiving cord, You say they don't have
a superstar receiver, they don't have a true number one,
But every game.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Somebody else shows up. Every game is somebody else?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Huh? The guy's fit, Yes, they fit. Look at he
had three completions over thirty yards. He had a thirty
six yard on a hundred. Hendry a thirty six yard
to Ramadre Stevens. Yes, and he had a thirty three
yard of the Kyle Williams he had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight nine. He had nine completions of at least ten yards.
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So that tells me, oh Jo that he's unafraid to
push the.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Ball down the field. Yeah. Look, there gonna be times
you screen the ball out. You I get that, you're
gonna run screen to the running back.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You're gonna run a smoke screen or jail break screen,
bubble screen, whatever they call him. Now, you're gonna run.
But at the end of the day, at some point
in time, you're gonna have to take chances down the field.
You're gonna have to push the ball down the field.
And he's unafraid to push the ball down the field.
Give Josh McDaniels a stream credit. Look, he might not
be a great head coach, but he's an unbelievable offensive courter.
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Unbelievable here guys in the right position, and everybody has
flourished under him. Look, I throw Tom Brady out be
cause Tom Brady flourished under everybody. But when you look
at what he's done with Mac Jones. You look at
what he did with Jimmy Garoppolo. You look at what
he did with Jakobe bris said, you look at what
he did with Matt Jones.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Now you look at what he's doing with Drake May.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
His ability to get the quarterback to understand he's what
he wants and the quarterback to be an extension of
the offensive coordinator on the field. Yes, it's second to
none there like look Kyle shanahan and Sean McVay and
Andy Reid. But Josh McDaniel doesn't have to take a
back seat to any of them.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
No, No, absolutely not, because he has success with every
quarterback he's touched, every quarterback he's had to deal with,
They've had success on the field, and like you said,
the quarterback has always been an extension of it, of
him and outside of you know, the goat being Tom Brady.
The fact that he's been able to do it with
everyone he's been a part of says a lot about
him being the quarterback whisper.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, and wasn't he the guy? Was he was?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
He? Was?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
He the OC when Matt Castle, you know, I'm.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Not sure what was was it was it was it him?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
It was him, because that then he would up going
to Denver if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And he was.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
He was the head he was the head coaching.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Denver because Charlie Weiss left and the name Yeah, okay,
wasn't that'd have been two thousand and they lost the
Super Bowl in seven?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
You sure were You sure wasn't him? It wasn't Bill O'Brien,
Which one is.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It might have been him, or it might have been
him or Bill O'Brien, right, but he left and went
to the Broncos. He might have went to the Broncos
in nine though, So it was him that off that
that the Super Bowl? Who lost the Super Bowl? Bill O'Brien, Okay, yeah, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
It's uh, he his ability to to to.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Have a vision of Yeah, he wanted his offense to
look like and to communicate that with the quarterback and
get the quarterback on the same wave links so they
see things out of eye.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yes, he's he's he's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Like I said, he's had He's been a lot of
places as a head coach and yeah, his it doesn't work,
but play.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Call him when he's just responsible for one thing, ye,
the offense.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Oh Joe, Yeah, listen, he's one of the best. He's
one of the best.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
We saw something tonight, Oh Joe, the last I hadn't
seen this since Peanus, the last time I see somebody
miss a ball like this. It was Charlie Brown, but
Lucy moved it.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Wait a minute, what happened?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Did you see the kicker?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
You talking about my dog? Young ho?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, hey, hey, I'm not sure. You got to keep
your eye on the ball. You got to keep your
eye on the ball.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
And that listen to me.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Me as a kicker, you know, I understand the one
thing you do. You should never be able to miss
a kick. You should never be able to stub your toe.
It's all about the foot hand. I'm about the foot,
the foot and eye coordination.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Like Ojo, you you do that so often?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
How does that even happen?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Not? Oh okay, let's because we've seen guys. They get
too much of the ground and you kick the ball
and it doesn't go through. We see nobody miss the
whole damn ball and just doty do't it?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Hey? And the hold of looking back, the hold of.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Like hold on, you got to me down to this
down pot ain't about to tell my ass up.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Let me get up out of here.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, hey, hey, I've never seen that list.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I never saw in all my years of playing football,
I've seen him.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I've seen them hit the dirt like you know when
you when you when you swing the t and you
catch the dirt.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Before you hit the ball.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah, I seen, I've seen that. But I stub your toe. Oh,
and not even make contact with the balls at all.
That's the first I saw.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Look, I've seen guys kick the ball low and kick
the guy in the ass that snapping the ball to it.
I've seen guys get hitting the head with the ball
that's kicking it. But I've never seen he missed the
entire ball. But he wasn't even close to kicking the ball.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
No, not even close.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And I'm with Jackson Dark Jackson Dart, like, what the Yeah,
that's what I said too, That's exactly what I said.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, what the F.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I'm like, bro, I'm hoping that I'm hoping that that
doesn't cost him, that doesn't cost him his job.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
He lost his job?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, yeahhreuse it's shank some kicks. Yeah, you know, it's
it looks you have to have mental toughness to play
a professional sport and to be good at it. But
when you get them demons as a kicker, it's like
a golfer. You get David du Ball in baker Fish.
You see guys, you see got second basement chunk lad block.
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They couldn't throw the ball to second first base.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
They playing secon It couldn't throw it.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
He was a picture. He had to move to the
outfield on because he couldn't get the ball. Crost to play.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But we got a problem. You got to you got
a problem.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You have to understand certain certain positions on the football field.
Certain positions they get chances over and over and over
the kids themselves kickers. Games are won and lost on
your goddamn leg. Games are one and loss, and you
can change the directory of a game and it's ending
on your leg. You don't have opportunity to be making
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those kind of mistakes, and especially in games of importance.
Now it's a bad thing that the goddamn Giants are
two and eleven. So, I mean, it doesn't doesn't it
doesn't make any sense. But but but coaches want consistency
at that one position. If I have to be able
to count on one thing, it's having a kicker that
can be consistent for me and always give us points
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once we get in field goal range.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
They might not be good right now, but I want
to be around when they do get good, so I
get an opportunity to kick. But doing stuff like this here,
guess what, O yoe, they said, I got to go
into the market. I gotta get me another kick. I
gotta get me a kicker because the one we don't,
the one that we have, he isn't reliable right And
I've got to be able to count on you, because
more times than not, these are one possession games. You
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might have to kick the ball to get us. In overtime,
you might have to win it. We don't know. But
I need to be able to trust you. I can't
go out there. Lord have mercy, Please let him make
this kick every time you go out there. I mean,
I better have to pray every once in a while.
But if I gotta pray every time, I gotta pray
for the pat I gotta pray for the field goal.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I gotta pray you don't kick it out of bounds.
That's true. I mean, you know, I don't prayer.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Lord, don't, don't. Don't take this the wrong way. I
don't mind praying, but I want you use some of
those prayer for something.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Bill Fitzky, Yeah right, you know, you know it's funny too.
Also when it comes to kickers in the NFL. I
know there's thirty two of them. They're thirty two teams
that thirty two kickers. But they just like quarterbacks, they're like,
they're just like, I'm talk about the good quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I ain't.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I'm not talking about you.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You know, your regular your Aubrey's in Dallas, You're Cam Willis,
your McPherson's. You know, those top dudes. It's hard to
find those that are consistent. Hell, if you play for
the goddamn Cowboys, you get to the fifty to fifty
yard line? Wait, you not even you know you get
to the forty yard line, not even your forty ye.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
In range?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yep, you in range.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
McPherson, Cincinnati kicker, he just hit sixty five not too
long ago.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You get to the fifty You in range?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, Cam little kid a sixty Cam Little I said, yeah, Cam,
That's what I meant, Cam little hey man, come on, man,
it's only a few of.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Them, You're right, but uh yeah, yeah, that was a
that was a like I said, I could be in
the minority chat. But I don't think the Jazz as
far as people think they are. I think they got
got I think, you know, Brian Burns and Dexter Lawrence
coming along. Phibodeaux is out. Phibodeau was he out today?
Because I didn't see him. I didn't see him. I
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think he's hurt. Yeah, I don't know if he's gonna
be back. I don't know. I don't know if they
picked up his option on show his fifty year options.
So I don't I'm not sure it's gonna be back.
And then plus the fact that you got Abdual Carter.
You took him with what the second pick, third third
pick in the draft, so there's a likelihood that you're
probably gonna move on from Thibodeau. I'm not sure. But
you got Brian Burns, who you played a lot of
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money for. You got a lot of money tied up,
and he.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Got he got a lot of He got a lot
of sacks too. Now that Brian Burns.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But I'm saying so you got
pieces that you can build around.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Like I said, that's Lawrence is the top defensive lineman.
You got Brian Burns, who was the top air drudger.
You drafted Abdual Carter with the hope that he could
be the opposite of Brian Burns. So you have guys
that can play off each other like Lebronco got Bondo
and a Cooper, or you got Verse and you got
Young at the Rams. You got guys that can play
off of each other. And so you Hey, you slide
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the protection one way. I get one on one a somebody.
I just I think I think the giants are really
really cold close. I just think the quarterback needs to
be a little smarter. Live to see another day. You
gotta know when the journey is over. Everything, Hey, everything,
I get it. If it's a situation like in the
super Bowl where John had to do the helicopter, that's
one thing. But in a game like this here you
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on the sideline, bro, if you go out of bounds
and be two yards short as opposed to get the
first down and take that shot, bru you not built
for that. You're not built to take those kind of shots.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Nope, not not at all, Not at all. He's exciting though,
A he's exciting to watch.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Oh yo.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Mike Kafka was asked why Abdul Carter didn't play the
first quarter. It was just my decision not to play him.
This is the second time in three weeks. Yes, sir,
oh yo, you got drafted guy, the third pick in
the draft. Ain't no way you just make a decision
to arbitrarily sit him out.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well, obviously something happened that it was just a this
discipline reasons. We don't know exactly what it was.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh Joe, he got disciplined a couple of weeks ago.
What's not resonating to him?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
You know, you remember he fell asleep and mister walkthrough.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Oh you know, hey, things happen, YadA, YadA, y'all, it
ain't gonna happen again, lesson learned.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Hell we are basically two three inside of a month. Yeah,
and we got this again. Oh yoe, what is it
that he's not getting bro? This is professional football. You're
not at Penn State. You're not at Penn State, and
you can get away with that at Penn State because
you were the guy. There are greater expectations of you.
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Abdul Carter. Oh Joe, yes, this man think about it now.
This man said, you know what I want fifty six. Well,
if I can't get fifty six, let me get the
double hockey sticks, let me let me get let me
get level. Do he understands what those jerseys mean. And
first of all, fifty six you ain't gonna name. You
can't name, you can't name two. First of all, I
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think LT is the greatest defensive player ever. I can
make a case LT is the greatest football player ever.
Just give me a little time. I'll let you debate
who you wanted to bake. You could take Brady, you
could take Bayton, you could take Jerry. And I can
make a case that Lawrence Taylor is the greatest football
player ever because he's the guy. He made two position famous.
No other player has made two position famous. He made
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the edge rusher famous, and he made the left tackle
famous because if you couldn't get a left tackle to
block ing, you couldn't beat the Giants. And if you
couldn't find an edge rusher like LT to rush the quarterback.
You couldn't put pressure on the quarterback. So he made
two position famous go back and stuffy Like I said,
I know, look LT, you know the drugs and all
that other stuff, and he had some stuff off the
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field after his career. But I don't think people realize
there are a lot of guys there's one three defensive
player of the years and stuff. People don't realize how
good LT was. They don't, they do, not really you.
I mean, whoever you think the best foot but the
best defensive player that you've seen with your own eyes,
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if you're under the age of forty, whoever, the best
the player is, make a case and I'll make a
case for LT.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
And you when I'm done, you're.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Like, yeah, LT the best, Yeah, man, whoever? And I
think there have been some fabulous I played in the
era with LT, with Reggie Rus, with Time with Ray Lewis,
with Mike Singletary, with Leslie O'Neill, Howie Long.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I played in the league with some great ones.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yes, but he's different. He different. He set the bar,
He set the standard for that position.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I tell you what, when you name your top five
defensive players, he ain't never left off that list.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
And most of the time he's number one. Most of
the time he's won.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
You're absolutely right, But man, look at oh Joe watching
watching the Patriots, I'm seeing how disciplined and how well
coached they are.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Well, you know, everything is easy when you have a
quarterback too. Uh oh, you understand that when you have
a quarterback like that, that with his decision making is
as good as good as it as good as it is. Man, goddamn,
but listen, Jos's McDaniels. I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know what it is like. Everything fits over
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there offensively. Not only do you have a quarterback, you
have the pieces, the complimentary pieces that fit just right.
You understand how to put each player in and in
the right positions to play to their strengths and hide their.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Weaknesses if there are any. But every player has weaknesses.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah for sure, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Do you play to a player of strength and you
stay away from his weakness as much as you can.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, And he's in Josh's massive that and Drake may
is having a f and ball doing so hunk them
boys eleven and two man.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Drake, sohore, Drake, this is sophomore year.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Right, Yes, they won ten games after losing the after
losing the previous year they lost thirteen only the ninety
nine coats because when Peyton got there, they lost all
those games. In the next year, they were the number
one seed in AFC.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, now that's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, But when you have that guy, when you have
that guy, when you have that one foundational piece, yeah, hell,
I can build anything on a solid foundation.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
But that's all it is, that's all it takes.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Oh yeah, oh Joe, I bet hard Knock's wishing they
were following the Cleveland Browns around this year. Now it's
Dylan gabriel significant other jumping into the drama TikTok saying,
my fiance Dylan is not playing. I have thoughts about that,
but I'm not gonna share it. She then captured another
with Brown's loss, what's new? But then this is he
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got into it just agreement with a comment on a
post and row Actually everyone in the building wants him
to play, but you wouldn't know because you've never been
into the NFL or coach.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Right, well you know you.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I mean, listen, we see this all the time. We
see family members, family members display their frustrations whatever they
may be, really not understanding how the game works, you know,
the ins and outs of it. And you know she
wants some fiance to be on the field. You know
he's not on the field. Shador has been chosen to
be the court.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
She knows everybody in the building wants him to play.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I mean they've been on the news for.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
How long I'm asking you, how does she know that
unless somebody pillow talking.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Oh come on, man.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Let chance let when you're in Cincinnati, let Chancey say, Man,
my brother ain't getting the ball.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
They need to throw the ball my ball or trading?
What you tell me?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
What you think the people in Cincinnati and what the
Bengals organization you're gonna think, where did that come from?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Oh? That that that that I said something you.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Want to be I fans up. You know they came
that came from you. That Even if it didn't, that's
what they're going to believe. That's why I always tell family,
friends and loved ones be mindful of what you say,
because whether they said it or not, it's going back
to them.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yeah, I mean we you know that's his wife. You
know they have those conversations. I'm sure he does. Of
course I want to play. Of course I want to start.
You know, you you go home and who's the one
who's the one person you have piece and convent to
when it comes in with you?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Oh honey, how is your dead work?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Well?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Shit, I ain't starting.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Those are conversations that I had between a couple, a
husband and wife, a fiance.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
You know, I mean that that's that's normal.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
And she's vnning and her frustrations about oh damn, here
we go, what's new?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
We're gonna lost again.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You have to be careful now, ocho, because back then
there was no social media that your significant other could
go to.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Ay.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Now there's a platform called social media that they can
go to and disseminate information all across the world. And
it's stan taneous. So even if you were to say
and then hit delete, is gone.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Oh it's too late.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
It's gone.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
It's too late once you hit sence a rap.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Man, Lord, have mercy.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I just I just wish people understood that it's it
makes it put Dylan in a bad spot because I
don't believe see when she said the locker when she's
hold on you say, uh, actually the building. When she
said the building, I don't think I think it's from
locker room up. I don't think it's the locker room down.
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I don't think it's the locker room. I think it's
from above the locker room up the building. I think
that's the executive I think that's the front office.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Hold on, we already we already know that though we
already know that based on the words versus based on
things that have been said.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
You know, you know that part.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
But down down, down below where it really matters, the
meeting potatoes of the team. You I don't need this.
I don't need to say no more because I can't.
I can't throw anybody else under the bus, you know,
like like I slipped up long time ago.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I don't want to do that again. But that's what
they that's what they want.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Just be.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
That's what they want inside that building.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
The people that's going to war. And I'm not telling
you what. I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm
telling you what I know.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
What I don't understand is that people need to understand
you're not the center of attention. If you weren't dating Dylan.
Dylan Gabriel. How many people you think would know who
she is? That's what anybody unless you Taylor Swift. Now,
Taylor Swift is a different animal. Everybody know who she is,
even if she does not dating drive. But when you
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look at it, see Russ, Okay, that's a different that's
a different dynamic. But we we're talking about somebody that
doesn't have that name, that name or brand recognition that
you're only known. Oh, that's Dylan Gabriel Freance. Oh, that's
such a that's old Joe's wife. Man, that's O Choe
significant other. So anything that gets said out of her mouth,
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that at Carl that relates back to football, O Choe
talking ass. That's how it is. I'm sorry. It's just
like stuff at work, when stuff come back to work. Oh,
I told you that. I told you that. I've seen
situations get messy because something got said in the locker room.
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Somebody went back and told their wife a girlfriend woo woo.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Woo woo woo woo woom now and it got it
and it got all over the place.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Huh, all over the place, damn.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And you know where it came from because we talked
about it in the locker room, locker room, and ain't
none of them. Ain't none of the wise girlfriends, significant others,
beyonces or whatever they want to be within the locker
room to hear. So one of you, mofo said it,
you're mind and and in that group it ain't but
a small group. It ain't like we're talking aloud across
the y'all across the room.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Uh, we're talking in a small group, four or five.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, so practice field, it's easy to pendpoint who says something.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Absolutely absolutely, I always ask somebody, hey, man, sewan, let
me tell you something. I'd be like, okay, who else
you told? Man, I ain't told nobody because I don't
want you to tell somebody else, and then they get out,
and then you talking about I ain't tell nobody, but
shop you a damn lie because if you already told
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somebody else, don't tell me. Yeah, it's it's Chad, it's
just a it's just a bad spot to put your
significant other end in the locker room because.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I'm telling you how how how I absolutast think.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Be at football, basketball, baseball when something gets out and
if team related, they was like what she must have
heard him say that he's saying that, even if it's
not true, she could have just been going out on
a whim on her own and saying.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
How she feels.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Dylan might not upset anything, but it's still gonna attach it.
It's just like anything else. If somebody had done something
the first person, the first place.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
They go, look, yeah, hey, you see that, Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
First of all, why you got my jersey? Don't you?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Why you got my jerseys? Hey?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Listen, hey, hey, when I ate, let me tell you something.
When I when I hold on, let me tell you
how I got the jersey.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
See when you was out of town, right when you
were traveling and you were doing them alcohol Hey, listen,
you were doing them alcohol signings, and I had to
break in your house, right and I had to steal
my trophies.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I snatched one of these jerseys up off for you
slash one of.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
These jersey trade? Huh, how about we making trade?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
No, I don't worry about I'm gonna keep this. I'm
gonna keep this. I'm gonna I mean, I'm gonna keep
this for the rest of my trophies. Hey, this is
the real deal.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
To look look at the sleeves. Oh, yeah, oh Joe,
I got the home in a way.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I died.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
What I tell you what when you send the rest
of my wards, I got you.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate this. It's heavy. It's just stup
to this. This is the real deal.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Oh yeah, hold on, hold on and we we looked
about the same. See the guns, yes.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Sir, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Just Chad.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It's it's kind of like, Oh Joe, it's somebody in
jail and they escape. What's the where the first? The
first place they go is where they mama.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
They girl, he ain't got no.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
He gotta be going the girl.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Hey, think about it.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Somebody saying something, then it has to do with the
locker room the first, even if even like I said,
even if that's her, even those her own thoughts, and
she I like to believe she's smart enough and she
can have her own thoughts, right, But that's not what
people are going to believe.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
No, not not at all.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
And I don't I don't think she's thinking about it
that way anyway. She was just more self expressing her
feelings based on how she feels about wanting her husband
or husband to be you know to actually be out
there actually playing, so but she knows. She knows better
now because she's gonna get the backlash and then it's
gonna fall on Dylan Gabriel and he gonna get pissed.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
You can't be doing that. You know that they they're
both new to this. They're both new to this, and
she will understand. You gotta be careful before you before
you hit sin, you got to think because once you
hit it, it's there for life.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And guess what else? So, Yo, guess who's gonna get
asked about this? You think they're gonna ask twelve about this? Yeah,
you think they're gonna ask the fans skill about this?
Of course somebody say, don't really have shouldn't look they
should be like, Okay, what do you guys need to
do to get a win?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
What do you guys need? Blah blah blah. I got now,
I got it.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Now I've got to answer answer questions about something A
lady that ain't never ain't only been going to the
game to see Dylan. Yeah, now I gotta answer questions
about what she said.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
They ain't got.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Nothing to do that's gonna help us win A football
game on Joe, nothing whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Hey, it just answer the service ask unnecessary, unnecessary for
you to the fire.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So I just like Chad, I would just recommend anybody,
young ladies, if you you you you're dating a guy
in college or high school and you guys might be together,
just keep that in mind. Everything you say that's related
to football is gonna be tied back to him. And
you might have your you might be like you might
be your own person, you have your own thoughts, you
have your own mind that I get.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
To talk, I'm, I'm, I can speak freely.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
But they're gonna tie back to him, and that's not
fair and that's not fair to him. Now, you don't
want to put that kind of stress. You don't want
to put that kind of pressure, and you don't want
to sign shine that kind of light on him. So
just just just be mindful of that that your actions.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Gonna reflect back on him.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
It's gonna it's gonna tie back, it's gonna tie back
to him, just like if you do something out.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Oh man, that's man. Oh man, you said, man, you
heard what happened to oat your girl? Man? You hurt man? Man, Man,
they say sharp girl was acting.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
A fooling them all. Yeah, it's different when you date.
It's a leb entertainer, actor, actress. It's a different set
of rules, and you have to move differently. You got
to oh, I move how you can't do that? You
can because now you can't just think about you. You
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have to think about that other person and the possible
jeopardy of parels you might put them in. And I
don't think enough people do that now, but you should.
I mean the really ones. Oh Joe, you ain't never
seen You ain't never seen Peyton Mann and White or
heard her say anything?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Have you no? See?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
That's that's a different type of understanding.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I had no idea that she walked up to me.
She said, you don't know who I am. I say,
I sure don't. She said, I'm Ashley Man. I say,
how you do it?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Had a great There's I mean, so many people that
you wouldn't even know that's their why, because they're like, hey,
stay in the shadows, do what I do.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
But some understand they have to play the background. Some
understand they have to play the background and they're not
the main character. I understand I'm not the main character,
and I know my place and I know my role.
There are a lot like that. Then there are something
that want to be front center. Mm hmm, okay, that's
my man.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
I need to be I need to be front center
right along with him.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
It's it's different, every everybody different, And it also depends
on who you're dating. Yes, some people date you just
because they want to be front and center.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, and quarterbacks first of all. Quarterbacks bar is a
different level. Yes, you basically dating the CEO. Yes, you
date the CEO the guy, so you definitely, you definitely
have to be willing to take a back seat. You
gotta be like like Savannah James. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
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she ain't. Hey, she gonna do a little podcast. She
gotta look whatever she got going on. Look, they try
to beat up for Asha current. But I'll understand what
she's saying. I understand what she's saying. But man, I
just I just I just hated it. I just you know,
understand they're young, though, O Yo, some things you know something.
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Sometimes you have to make a mistake before you understand
the gravity of what you're in and then you get
a true understanding of what you're dealing with. So hopefully
she learned that. Just keep that to yourself. Okay, the
building wants them to play if and when that time comes,
he gets an opportunity to get back in there. He
plays well, he's over the hold down the spot. But
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don't you go on social media and act up? Oh
Joe shador Sada says he's working hard to build trust
with Jerry Judy. She says, it's going to take some
time that chemistry with guys like Jerry. I'm more of
a trust person, so we have to spend some time
on the task. It's just it's just and I told you, Joe,
anytime you anytime you start doing this right.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Here, yeah, I listen. It's a disconnect, you know, it's
a disconnect. Once that Wi Fi get on point, it's
gonna be alright. You have to understand these two ain't
work together.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
He mystery is very important.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I think people those that have played the game at
at at any level, you understand. It's one thing when
you get to the NFL, right, you have to.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Be able to you have to work with your receivers.
You gotta work with receivers because.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Just because you have a ball in your hand, you
have a guy out there running routes doesn't mean you
have an insignt connection. True, there's certain little nuances that
you have to have, certain rhythms and timing that you
have to know that over a course of a training camp,
over a course of the off season.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
That you get to know your receivers.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I mean, right now, I understand they're frustrations, they're not winning.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Judy wants to get the ball.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Judy wants to be productive in that offense, and things
aren't going the way he like right now.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
But the problem that people are gonna have is that,
first of all, you do or the is a rookie
quarterback in only a second start, like you said, but
what about the previous eight games when Dylan Gabriel was
in there and Joe Flack was in there? So how
many times do you do do we see that at
that kind of attitude on the sideline right, Because I'm
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sure Dylan Gabriel said a bunch of them, he killed
a bunch of worms. It knocked a couple of birds
out of the sky, and we didn't see this. So
people like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Jude,
the man just got in this on his second game started.
He's a rookie quarterback. If he's a second year, third
year guy and y'all still not on the same page,
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I would get it. But in this scenario, it's hard
to get people to be on your side, considering, if
I'm not mistaken, he lead the league in drops and
you had a thirty five yard completion that you let
the guy come from behind you and knocked the ball out.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So that's what people see. Now.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Last year he had an unbelievable season. Jameis did a
great job of throwing in the ball.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Crazy last year, yes, crazy, but.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
You have to But oh Joe, now, we can't take
one season and forget about the years that was in
Denver before and what's going on right now.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
We're not gonna do that. I just won't. I won't.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
I want Jerry to understand that this is a rookie
quarter of a rookie quarterback in only his second start.
How about I mean, maybe y'all spend some extra time.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
After practice, after after practice Wednesday, Thursdays, Friday, stay out,
stay stay out a little.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Bit longer, you know.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Get listen, hell, me and uncle men mentor me and
uncle well, me and Carson used to do that, used
to do that, and I'm I talk about when he
first got there, from when he first got there, third year,
fourth year, fifth year, we get We got in that
extra timing just to know, boy, you can have we
can have a goddamn blindfold on.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
He can throw that ball and know exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Where I'm gonna be at right every time, on rhythm,
regardless of brush, regardless of whoever's in front of, regardless
of a defense. So when we were out there, it
was like it was damn it was damn near seven
on seven. Like that's how sharp and on point and
precise we were. It was like it was damn near
like seven on seven.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
But it takes time to build relationship. You just don't
go you just don't go in like okay, yeah we
got it. No, it doesn't happen like that. You've got
to put time in. Y'all need to sit in a
meeting room. Okay, tell me what you're thinking on this route,
tell me what you're thinking on display right here. That's
how That's how it was with John. I'm like, okay,
tell me what you're thinking. But if the guy's playing
you like this expected on the outside like this, I'm
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gonna put it on your back shoulder or you know, ay,
like we were talking about when that guy's running and
I can't beat him over the top o Yo, he said,
I'm a back shoulder you so just know that the
ball is gonna come, You're gonna have to open your
hips and catch it.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
On your back shoulder.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
And you know what's funny is I like that we
talked about this too, And I don't want to talk
about the way. The way I view Jerry Judy and
the type of receiver he is is they're having problems.
They're having problems and issues offensively over there in Cleveland.
But I've always seen Jerry Judy is not a problem
but a solution to the problem, especially with the skill
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set that he has as a receiver regards to the drop,
regardless of the issues he's may have had, understanding what
he can do when it comes to putting people in
the goddamn blender, being able to define the mismatches for
him offensively, knowing that.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
He can beat. He can beat whoever is out there
at dB.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
He can beat like, let me say this again, he
can beat whoever there is out there at dB.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
He's a mismatch for damn thar anybody unless we.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Talk about you know, one of the top two better
dbs in the NFL. His route runner is tremendous. His
ability to separate the tremendous. So I don't even understand
where the issues are coming from, you know, especially seeing
them with the animations and theatrics on the sideline. Yes, yeah,
let's goddamn easy. You know the fact that he's one
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of those few players. It's only a handful of them.
You know, I don't got to worry about you here.
I need you to just get open.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Just do that for me. Just get open.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Oh sho you look at Judy as the number one?
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah, not even close.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
You don't think so? Oh sorry, hey you listen. Can
I say something real quick?
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Yes, I know I know some of maybe people in
the chat maybe you might not be fond of him, But.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I like him.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I thought he I thought he should have been I
said when they came out he came out that draft
with CD, with Jedda, with Ruggs.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I said he should have been the number one receiver.
Take it.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, so I hey, and I was happy that he
would but O Joe.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Hey simply simply this simply this being able to get open,
beat man the man and create separation. That's that's all
I need because the ones that are number twos can't
do that consistently. The people that are number two cannot
do that consistently. Those all receivers that are number one receivers.
My officer coordinator doesn't have to hide me. We it's
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third down. We need you to get open man the man.
I don't give a fuck, almost curse, I don't care
what it is.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
Get open. Jerry Judy can do that. He can do that.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I'm just saying, you.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Can name twenty receivers, twenty five receivers better than that.
I mean, he'll number one on that team because you
got that. Look if you're talking about a number one,
because he has to be a number one on that team.
But you'll go twenty five deep receivers before you take him.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
So we we basic things off skill set. You're basing
off numbers. We're we talking about.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
His skills are not conducive. Look at his numbers in Denver.
Look at his numbers now.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
I just said, are you talking about his skill set
or we talk about.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Number Well, everybody's a number one if you just look
at skill set because everybody can get open. I can
stack up a bunch of god yes they can. No,
I'm not saying. Look, let me take that back. Everybody
can't get open. But how many? How many if we
were to have a draft right now and you start
taking receivers, how long before Judy gets selected? No?
Speaker 3 (45:50):
You you throwing, you throwing, you throwing in different scenarios
that I'm not talking about.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I'm just about He's not oh Joe, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
He's a two. He's a solid two, a solitude. He's
not a one receiver?
Speaker 4 (46:05):
What what is? What is?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
What is your number one?
Speaker 4 (46:09):
What's your primeser for being the number one receiver?
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I'm curious they build a game plan to stop you?
Are they building game plans to stop Jerry Judy? You
know damn well, they're not building, no game playing. They're
building a game plan to stop Ojo sinko. They build
game plans to stop Shining Sharp. He is not a
number one because you know why, Chad, if he was
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the number one, Ojo would have said, hell, yeah, no,
I'm I'm are they building Are the defensive building game
plans to stop him?
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Or no?
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Hold on, so let's go. We got thirty two NFL teams, right.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I asked you let me no, no, no, no, you can't
do that. No, let me finish.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
You got thirty two NFL teams.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
So every time every team plays that has a number
one receiver, the defense is game plan.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
To stop their number one after when we come in,
when we come in, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Or when we come in on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Is he circled as a d A guy that we
got to stop. If we don't stop him, that's what
the number one he is. I'm not saying that every
week he's gonna get that, but we gotta focus on him.
We don't stop him, We can't. It's hard for us
to be.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
It's only five receivers in the NFL that teams have
to do that too.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Oh Joe only not a number one and you It'syjo.
I get he's from Miami five, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson,
A J. Brown, Ceedee, Lamb Pickings. It's only a few receivers.
Nico Collins is a number one, Tyreek Hill is a
number one. Brian Thomas Jr. Is a number one. The
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guy that Giants is a number one. Picking CD is
a number one. Terry mcclaurin is a number one. The
guy that they got two guys in the Drake London
is a number one.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Stop this notion, Oh Joe, oh Joe, don't do that.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
You just throwing anybody name right there?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Talk Are they number ones? Yes or no? Who are
they number ones? Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (48:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:06):
You so hold on.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
So when you play Atlanta Falcons, the focal point is
stopping Drake London Drake.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
The last one is that he's that best receiver. Okay,
you're not the best receiver. Okay js js C is
not a number one.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
Okay, now now we're talking. No, no, we're not. We're
talking now, we're talking. Now, we're talking.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Now.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
I like I like that, Joe Nay, I'm I'm I'm
basing on.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
I'm basing it off. What you're able to do? I
need skill set.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
He's had one year, So what about those years that
he didn't do nothing? So all of a sudden, so
he just acquired the skill set last year. The previous
three years he lost it and he's lost it now,
but he had it last year.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Nah mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
I'll tell you what you take, Jared Judy Davonte's smith.
You take Jared Judy or Jaylen Waddle. I'm just I'm
just asking. Those are guys that play too, So would
you take them? Would you take? Would you take Jared
Judy Or would you take Davonte Smith? Would you take?
Would you take Jared Judy or Jaylen Waddle? Would you take?
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Would you take him? Or you take Peers? Would you
take Peers in uh in Indy? Or would you take
Michael Phillman Jr. Over Judy? Which one you take it?
I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
I'm giving you. Everybody has to take Judy.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
So listen, you hear.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
You have everything, all the all the comparison and the
teams and and and and how you're doing and how
you're doing that?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Right?
Speaker 4 (49:52):
You see what you're doing?
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Well?
Speaker 4 (49:53):
You you you.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Talk about you talk about you talk about players that
are all on competent offenses, that get that get balls
with quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
You see you see what you're doing. Are you trying?
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Are you trying?
Speaker 4 (50:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (50:04):
No, no, you trying to compare the goddamn ship circus. He
got the fucking deal with it, Cleveland, And you're naming
the Dolphins. You naming Daniel Jones over there throwing the ball,
looking like goddamn Tom Brady reincarnated, Like, come on, man.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
What about belief neighbors? How was he? What was the
giants last year?
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (50:24):
He was gangster.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
And he.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
That rum and fell that they had them with the
giants last year. He had one hundred and something catches.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, they yeah, they threw that thing to him like crazy.
I'm just I'm just this is this is this is
a great this is this is a great comp I
like this conversation.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
I like this conversation.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
But let me tell you something also, Situations matter where
you are, matters, quarterback matter. It's so many factors that
come into play, especially when you start naming other receivers
on other teams that are in totally different offenses with
good quarterbacks and great offensive systems.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
That that's all.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
So it's like, it's it's almost unfair they had that
conversation in comparison.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
But let's let let's let's let's move on.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Well, ninety percent of the chat disagree with you. Ninety
percent of the chat say he's not an under one.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
Any percent of the chat can't cover me, no matter
of fact.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Hold on, one hundred percent of the chat can't cover me,
and tell me nothing about playing receiver.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Maybe fifteen years ago you had a very compelly argument.
Now Jerry Judy leads the NFL and dropped and drop
percentage which qualified on target pass he dropped by receiver.
Judy has dropped almost nineteen percent, six percent higher than
any other receiver held chill, the oh chold have been
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a hell of attorney y'all. Oh Yo, No, damn where
y'all guilty? Oh yo, to hear yo? Whatever it is
the weapon, Oh yoda gave it to the lawyer. Oh yo,
look at my client. They do this and you got
me hot man talking about the checker. Hey, you got
me hot talking about the Chacker company. Man, I'm hot,
O Joe. Hours after the Eagles lost to the Bears
(52:23):
on Friday, Philly o'cle Kevin Petula was a victim of
a house getting egg. Petulla has been heavily criticized this
season for the underperformance of the Eagles offense. The team
ranks at the bottom third of nearly every offensive category.
O Joe, consider how much egg costs? May damn there
like eight nine dollars a day.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
Listen, they told, they told me we were in a
financial crisis. They told me the economy was bad, and
we got people out here wasting eggs to egg somebody house. Listen,
I love the Philly fans. Philly fans are very passionate,
a very passionate fan base. They travel well, They support
their team through thick and thin. They ain't really had
too much thin. But goddamn, this is the same fan
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base that through snowballs that Santa Claus years ago.
Speaker 4 (53:07):
I hear that story all the time.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
He deserved it. He didn't bring no gifts.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
So something like this doesn't surprise me, being how serious
they are about their football team. They won the Super
Bowl last year. Things haven't been the same. The offense
doesn't look the same. So who is the blame whose
name keeps coming up over and over and over. Listen
that they're going a little too far. They're going a
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little too far. They they didn't have twenty four hour
security at Kevin Tulou's house, so he doesn't have this
issue anymore. They don't do the players like that. I mean,
I mean, I'm damn.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
I'm there for it. Look, I get it. I get that.
You know, fans get upset, they want to win. I mean,
they're so passionate.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
You know, fan is short for fanatic, and when you're
fanatic about something, you sometimes you know, you go over
the edge and you get fanatic.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Holl about it.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yeah, uh, that's not too excuse because I don't want you.
I don't want you guys to take this the wrong
way to say it is because they're upset. They have
a right to be upset. Boo all that you want to,
but don't don't damage the man property.
Speaker 4 (54:17):
Yeah yeah, come on that that's too far.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Don't too far damage the man's property. That's what I'm saying. Look,
they need to get this thing fixed. It was.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
It was a lot easier for Jaylor Hurst to play
quarterback last year because don't Joe he was throwing the
wide open windows, because you know, it was single courage,
because we gotta get this. Eph got down to stop Saquan.
Gotta stop Saquan. Look, he's not the greatest throw of
the football, and that's not a knock. There are a
lot of guys that's been able to make in the
(54:47):
league without being great throws of the football. Everybody, Look,
everybody gonna be Aaron Rodgers, everybody gonna everybody gonna be
a Patrick Mahomes and some of these great throws in
the football.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Some people are gonna have to win.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
Games a different way, right, and so you know we
we I think the thing is with Jalen is that
we look at him.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
And it's.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
It's not as aesthetically pleasing to the eye. Is he
as great a throwing the football as that? No?
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
You might say that, well he wanted super Okay, if
that's your only measure, take off. But there have been
a lot of great There have been a lot of
players that have won Super Bowls. That's not as good
as some of the players that have it, right, But
they need to figure this out and what's going on.
Jalen's gonna have They're gonna have to trust Jalen. Jayleen's
gonna have to trust them, and he's gonna have to
(55:39):
take some risk. It just is yeah, because I just
I just don't see a scenario now, o Joe where
this running game, this running game ain't even close to
what it was last year.
Speaker 4 (55:53):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
And the fact that it hasn't got going this late
into the season is probably not going to show up
and probably not going to the shore. I mean, I
mean this this far into the season. But one thing
I do know is I wouldn't count Jaalen out honestly,
regardless of whether we could run the ball, regardless of
how people feel about him being able to throw the ball.
I think they have they have, they all have a
(56:15):
winning mentality, and that God damn that quarterback, he has
the worst, the worst when it comes to just is
football football owned. He don't smile, he don't make no jokes.
He's locked in and he's been locked in since.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
They win that Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
So if they're going to win, I think he's gonna
have to be on the shoulders of him and on
the arm of that quarterback. And I think having a
j Brown, having Devonte Smith, I feel they're going to
be okay. Kevin Depula, I mean, mister Petullo, He's still
gonna be calling the plays. He's still gonna be calling
the plays. So it's gonna the honest the owners and
winning those games since you can't run and gonna have
(56:56):
to come from Jalen.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
I think the thing is for me, O Joe.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
I'm gonna see if he's gonna be the offensive coordinator
next year because I remember when they went through that law. Yeah,
and he said he believed in them that quarter. He
wasn't the court, he wasn't the coordinator. The following year, right,
and uh, that's when they bought Kellen Moore in and
Kellen Moore they got called the plays.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
They went to the Super Bowl and they won it.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
So we'll see, I mean, everybody said, oh yeah this,
we know we win as a team, we lose as
a team, but we'll see how much are you willing
to take losing as a team before you make changes?
Speaker 2 (57:30):
Right, because we'll.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
Say they listen, they gonna make them.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
But you know the coaches, you know, Sirihanna gonna say
all the right stuff publicly, he gonna say all the
right stuff they do every everything is always politically correct
when they speak. But he know their issues because job,
you know, jobs, jobs are at stake. I know you're
just coming off a Super Bowl win last year, but
I mean, hell, I mean, what's going on this year
is unacceptable, you know, by their standards, by not just
(57:56):
the team standards, not the organization, hell by the fan
standards as well. That's why they're egging the goddamned coach house.
Were not feeling, were not, Man, what's up?
Speaker 4 (58:08):
Now you got you better get it. We better to
get it together, dickhead, figure it out.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yes, tough, because like when you win the super Bowl,
that's the expectation.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yes, people think super Bowls are easy. People think you
just oh, once you win it, you just keep winning
and winning and winning and winning.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
People don't realize like when Tom, When Tom, they like, okay,
they wanted one, the mister playoffs in O two and
then they won three and four. They didn't win in five,
they didn't win six, they got back in seven, they
didn't get back in eight, they got back in ten.
Then it miss eleven, twelve, thirteen, they got back and forth.
It's bro it's hard. It's hard to repeat. That's why
(58:47):
they have only been a handful. They've been what fifty
nine super Bowl winners. Only a handful of those are repeating.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
It's hard. It's it's not it's not something that's easy
to do because you.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Have so much turnover as far as like you get
your friends, you can only sign a few, and then
people come steal all some of your best players that
you can't resign.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Some of your best coaches, they get other jobs.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
On yo, they go to college, they get the jobs
in the NFL, and then you all, this is the
biggest problem that you have. You get guys wanting to
do more with what they did last time was enough,
So everybody wants to be the reason why. So now
I need to do more? Oh yo, you call eighty
(59:30):
five palls last year, Man, I need to catch a
hundred now, No, eighty five was plenty.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah. Yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (59:38):
I think is like, hey, what we're in week fourteen?
Speaker 2 (59:41):
Right?
Speaker 4 (59:42):
Yes, God damn, but the season over?
Speaker 2 (59:46):
It is? It is two months.
Speaker 4 (59:52):
Do you think they got a chance to turn it around?
Speaker 3 (59:54):
What you think if it ain't turned around, that at
least at least show signs.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Of I think it's gonna be coming on, Jalen. I
don't think they're gonna be able to run the football.
I don't because the offensive line isn't the same. Your
centers banged up, Your right guard is not very good,
Your right tackle is not Lane Johnson. Right Dickerson is injured.
You know, he had his knee operated on before the season,
so he's basically out there on one leg, just gutting
(01:00:19):
it up. They're not the same offensive line. They're not
the same offensive team.
Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Listen listen for for Tulo's sake. I hope things turn around,
you know. I think he needs to have twenty four
hour security outside his home from this point on. I mean,
it's unfortunate that it has come to this, but I
think he also needs to understand how serious the fans
of Philly take their football.
Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
This ain't no joke.
Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Uh, the fans of Philly they beat up Santa claus Man.
They hit him with snowballs. Like you know, you know
how serious that is.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
I do.
Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
We took Santa Man and people in Philly don't play.
Then they do not play.
Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
There's a certain standard that you must live by as
a coach, as a player, and we don't meet that
guy damn standard.
Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
What happens, You get egged, you get snowballs. I mean, no,
no disrespect. You know, I'm not trying to be funny.
Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
I'm just saying, like Philly men and fans they don't play,
they travel well, they support, and they mean business.
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