Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Patrick Mahomes putting on vintage performance in win over Lions, Justin Fields struggles continue vs Broncos, Cowboys hit rock bottom in loss to Panthers and is it time to give Shedeur his shot!
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Oh Joe the Chiefs Beat the Lions thirty seventeen. After
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the game, cameras called Brian Branch refusing to shake Joe
Patrick Mahomes' hand.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And then shove Juju shoots Juju pas the start of brawl.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Patrick Mahons threw for two hundred and fifty seven yards
three touchdowns, ran for another score. Hollywood Brown had his
best game as a Chief two touchdowns. Looked more like
Mahomes of Oh, the Chiefs offense is starting to get
back in the gear and starting to look like the
Chiefs offense that we're used to seeing. When Patrick Mahomes
basically started in what twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen and ran
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that thing all the way until like twenty three. This
is the offense that we expected to see. Twenty two
or thirty two fifty seven, three touchdowns. They ran the
ball twenty nine times fo one hundred and twelve yards.
Really good, no turnovers, This clean game for Mahome boy,
Oh Joe looking at we'll get to Detroit talk about
them in a minute.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
What did you like about what you saw?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
From the fact that we see in the early Chiefs
that we all used to love, we're seeing the Chiefs
that scored damn their twenty eight to thirty points a game.
You had receivers. It was by committee. You never knew
who night it was gonna be. So obviously, now when
you play the Chiefs and you're going in and you're studying,
you're going from game to game, you don't know who
night is gonna be. Tonight it was Hollywood Brown, last
week it was it might have been Jusual, it might
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have been Taekwon Thornton, you know. So the fact that
they're also being able to establish the run, to balance
the offense out, to keep everything honest, especially defense because
you don't know what's coming. That's the great thing for
the Chiefs. And the fact that Patrick Mahomes playing so well,
he played a clean game as well, playing a clean
game and then being able to play defense on the
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back end consistently against a great offense, a great creative offense.
That game, I'm sure that Dan Campbell is responsible for.
It is a really good game. Obviously, the Chiefs defense
and offense has been up and down, which is something
it's been some slippage, something that we talked about earlier
in the season and where we thought they really weren't
(05:05):
gonna be the same, especially coming out the gate, oh
and two and look we we we're in week six.
We're in week six and every yeah, everything looked completely
different than the conversations we had just.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
This week.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
So, I mean, what they've been able to do in
such a short amount of time and changing everything around
to everybody dropping balls, or that they're not playing defense
like they used to, or we were talking about Chris
Jones not not hustle, not having an effort, you know
on certain plays, to looking like they did tonight is
an unbelievable thing.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I think the thing is, Oho, is that, like you said,
each week, it's a different receiver. Tonight, they really didn't
use a whole lot of twy Cown Thornton. I didn't
really see him on the field a whole lot ojo tonight.
It was all about juju. Travis Kelson had his best
game receiving of the year. Hollywood Brown. We mentioned Hollywood
Xavier Worthy doing Xavier Worthy, but he didn't get a
whole lot of opportunities. I think if you go back
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and look look at what they've done the past two weeks,
is that they've started off throwing the football in order
to run the football, and they stayed in front of
the sticks. This offense is predicated. As long as we
can stay and stay in thirty short thirdy manageable, Oh shoe,
Now we can run it or we can throw it.
If you go back and look, if I see what
they were on third down, as long as they were manageable,
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they were good. Well, camp City was only four to ten,
but they knew, even Dan Campbell knew normally at home.
When they're clicking, you gotta get to thirty. You can't
beat this team. You can't beat this team in Arrowhead
if they're playing good football and you don't get to
at least thirty, or you need to take the ball away.
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You need to get a scoop and go, you know,
strip side. You need to get a tip or camera
or something. But if they play a clean game and
they're on top of their game, you're gonna have to
meet fire with fire. And you saw early on both
teams going forward on fourth down because they knew kicking
field goals weren't going to win them the game. Look,
last started Monday. They threw the ball early, short stuff,
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get your ball out of mahomes hand. Let's try to
slow this rush down. And now we can get back
to running. And I thought they did a good job.
I thought Andy did an unbelievable job of play calling tonight,
getting the ball out of Mahomes quick and quick. And
if you notice something on yoll And, we've seen this
the trans the transformation over the last three years. Mahomeboy
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ain't sitting back there, bitch, patting the ball. He'll take running.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
The only thing I would say, Mahon boys, sometimes you
got to know the journey over. Okay, now you keep
dropping that show on people. Now I'll tell you that
people Hey, people go hey, they they're gonna drop back
on you. Now, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
And you know, quarterbacks don't do a whole lot of
a lot of their shoulder work is banned. They not lifted,
so they don't got that that meet them. They're like,
(08:01):
like most guys have, just be careful. But I like
the way they played tonight. They did a great job.
I really think the turning point of this ball game,
and it wasn't you know, is that arm and Ross
Saint Brown had some of the best hands in football.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
But on that fourth down, I.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Think that was a turn because they had great they
had great rhythm, they had great momentum. And you know
that because oh Jo, they're gonna get They were gonna
get it. At worst case the now you get nothing.
Now you get nothing out of that, and Kansas City
get the ball right out.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Of the gate. But uh, Detroit, Detroit didn't play bad.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I mean, when you play in Kansas City and they
play to the level of that they're playing tonight, they're
gonna be hard to beat. Now, it doesn't matter if
they're an arrowhead or they don't matter if they're coming
to your building.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That is still Patrick Mahome.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
And obviously we saw what we saw tonight from the
Chiefs is what we've seen consistently from the Lions. This
lionsly weekend and week weekend and week out. Nich just
happens to be one of those weeks where you're playing
the team. Now mean you're playing the other thirty one teams.
It's not that many teams. It's gonna come out there
and put thirty on you. There ain't too many. You got.
(09:12):
You got the Chiefs, you got maybe the Packers, you
got maybe the Bucks that have the offense. Right, Lions, Yeah,
they have the offense to be able to kind of
points you putting up. You get where you have to
meet fire with fire. You have to take certain chances
in certain situations because you know, field goals is not
gonna get it done, because this team can score at will,
you know, throughout the majority of the game. So, I mean,
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you have games like this, you want to be as
perfect as possible, and the team that makes the fewest mistakes,
whether it be drops, whether it be interceptions, whether it
be turnos, whatever it may be, the team that makes
the fewest mistakes normally comes out on top. And that's
what we saw tonight.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I mean, there weren't a whole lot of penalties. The
Chiefs had no pendities, the Lions only had four for
thirty eight yards. So this was a barely clean game.
The refs let them play, which we like to see,
o Jo. We like when reffs let them play. But
we got to stop this notion. Every time the Chiefs win,
mister Reefs, you don't win that many games. Ain't no
way you can get You can get Travis Kelsey, mom,
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you can get his dad, you can get Taylor Swifted,
You get a lot of people ain't no way you
winning just because of the officials. And I get it.
It happens all the time. They used to say the
same thing with the Patriots. You used to say this,
and that's what happens. When you win a lot. People
have to have a reason, well why they win it,
instead of like, you know, they got good players, they
got a good system, they got a good scheme, they
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got great coaching. We have to have a reason why
instead of just looking at the product and looking at
the players. See what has happened over the last years
is that people like, well, they're catching up to Patrick Mahomes. Well,
you're measuring Patrick against this work. You measured everybody else
at their best, but you're measuring him at his worst.
So you telling me, if Patrick mahone plays his best,
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and another and every other quarterback plays their best, you
take that quarterback over, my home boy.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
If every quarterback, all thirty two quarterbacks and everybody's healthy,
if they played their absolute best and Patrick mahone plays
his absolute best, you're not taking another quarterback that's currently
playing in the NFL over Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
That's how good he's been. I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
He's been in a little starter for eight years, and
he's never he doesn't know what it's like not to
be in an AFC championship game.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
In five of those years, he's been in the super Bowl.
So when you look at it like that, and I
get it, some shall we get tired? Man?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
How many times don't Joe? Have you heard let somebody
else win? How many time you heard that? O Joe,
I'm tired of it with let somebody else win. It
don't work like that. When I put that kind of
time in, you gonna have to beat me, cause I'm
just not gonna stop winning. Even when you were a kid,
O Joe, I ain't gonna let you win. No, you
gotta beat me. I'm not gonna let you win. Look,
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I don't think there's anything wrong with the Lions. I
really don't. I think their offense is really good. They
miss missed a few opportunities, a couple of drops, but
I thought they did really well. They didn't get I
think they only got gave up one side tonight. They
were not as clean as they normally are. Over two
on fourth down. That's not the Lions. The Lions are
normally three or four on fourth downs. You know, cause
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they're gonna go for it. They're gonna put pressure on you.
You know, when you play the Lions, you gotta score point,
absolutely because every every position that they have is really
four downs. And you don't know. Now, you like the
fake like damn okay, four down, but they might fake
punch it, fake fake punt it.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And you see the play that they call.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
But see what they didn't realize is that the quarterback
starts up for the center he has to go, so
he has to come to a complete state.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
You know that I was confused on that call as well,
because most of the time I'm thinking, well, wait a minute, now,
I see the Dolphins, the other team do the same
thing all the time. Ty, you could come in motion
and he never comes to complete stop. The ball just snaps.
But I didn't. But he didn't start on that. I
didn't know that little clicker right there.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
So definitely, it's it's a lot. It's a lot of
little nuances. It's just like if two people are moving
at the same time once, you're gonna have to both
guys are gonna have to come to a complete stop,
or you're gonna have two guys in motion and that's
what they got. Ill you got illegal motion. But I think, look,
this was a great game tonight. Obviously, I would like
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to see it a little closer. I was hoping Detroit
could score, maybe get an on sidekick, make it really
really interesting. But give Kansas City. When they needed to
bow their backs, they bowed their backs, and uh, that's
what you want from a great team.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
When it's all said and done, Kansas.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
City's gonna be there in the Yeah, o Joe, you
know they get Rashid Rice back this week.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Ye. He show is coming. He show is coming back.
And the funny thing about it is not on as
he's coming back. But as well as they played so
far without him a week each week they've gotten better
and better. And like I said, it's by committee. You
don't know which receiver is going to have his day.
I don't like the fact that Taekwon type Taekwon Thornton
has such a intricate part of the offense.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It's all.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
You know, they know the package or whatever play they
might have had for him, it just wasn't the same.
I hate I hate when they play that game.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I hate that too, because he's played so well and
he's gaining confidence, and the last thing I want to
do is to do something to suppress his confidence because
he's looking around like, what what did I do this week?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Around me?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Why was I not? Because he scored a touchdown? Damn
Every week he's played, O Joe, and he's played extremely well.
Big catch after big catch, big play after big play.
Uh So it's very very unfortunate. Hopefully, excuse me, they
get into a situation where they get him where he
can come back around and make play for him again.
Oh Joe, the game that you within, Yeah, I told.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
You one thing about it, the one thing about please
please don't do that. Please don't do that. Ya don't
do that, because it didn't. It didn't look as good
as you did. It looked like a woman with no makeup.
That's that's what the game. It wasn't pretty. It wasn't
It looked like a woman with no makeup. It's nothing
to It was an ugly contest and y'all still lost.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You know what I'm saying. It was an ugly content
and you lost, Okay, And I told you what was
gonna happen. I told you, I told you what's gonna happen.
I said Oh yo, they're gonna be They're gonna be
on Justin fields like lions on a wheelbeast. I said,
you watch what did.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You see that?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
He was right? He's right. Did you see it? Stat line?
End of the game.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I saw his stat line fin to go over in
sta line. He was nine of seventeen for forty five
passing yards. When you take away the sack yards, he
was minus ten yards passing. That is the that's the
fewest pass yards in Jet's history. That's the fewest allowed
by a team since nineteen ninety eight. So it's been
twenty seven years since somebody has had a worse passing
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line than what Justin Bills had today. They sacked them
nine times for minus fifty five yards. They had eighty
two yards. Let chat in an NFL game, A team
had eighty two yards of total offense. In a sixty
minute NFL game. They were two of fifteen on third
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down fifty seven yards of total offense. No diskill me
tay that back. They had eighty two yards of total offense.
Uh nine sacks, fifteen hits, seven tackles for losses, four
passes defended, minus ten passing yards. This is a and
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I tweeted, Oyo, this is a new low even for
the Jets. Eighty two total yards, eighty two FN yards
in an NFL game, two of fifteen on third downs,
and allowed nine sacks. This is the worst offensive performance
I've seen in a while. Not sure if it can
be fixed. This was awful and it wasn't Joe, Ojo,
(16:48):
I don't think I'm bringing news. I'm gonna be honest
with Yojo. I don't know how well justin Field's process
is information. He freezes, he freezes. There are a couple
of times, Oh Joe, he's got to take the flat
right now.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Oh he's done something that he.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Doesn't Yes, I don't. I don't know what it is.
Oh Joe, he's got to get out. This isn't college.
In the NFL, you must throw people open.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Guys are not.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yes, sometimes they'll blow a coverage and you and the
guys wide open and you could throw it to him.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But nine eight and a.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Half times out of ten, you've got to throw guys
open in this league. Guys are just the guys are
too good, and I just don't know, and I'm watching them,
Oh Joe, and he freezes a lot of time It's like,
I'm like, bro and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
We we and we blame the Chicago and we said
it was ebra Flus and with Pittsburgh, well he didn't
get a chance. Now he has a chance. And I
don't know what it is, but I just know this,
he's not processing the information as fast as he needs to.
And to be great at that position, you else process
(18:01):
information extremely fast because O Joe is happening. It's one
two three, hey you state.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
One yeah, two, you got you gotta get out of
the most definitely, especially with them not really black and
well for them being sacked nine times a day. See
from your point of view, so you're able to have
better contexts on why it looked the way it did.
You know, sit sweet and watching you know, live in
person is a little different. You just see everything happening
fast in person. Don't know why it's happening because there's
(18:29):
no replay, there's nothing, there's nothing you can watch.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
That's why I don't like watching games in the state
because you look, I want to see.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
So I really couldn't understand. I didn't know what is
I didn't know it was as bad as it was
once I saw the stat lines at the end of
the game, I saw them obviously running for his life.
I saw there there wasn't much they were able to
do offensively. You know. I talked I talked a G.
I talked AG before the game. I was like, listen, congratulation,
everything you're doing. You know, let's hope you guys turn
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this thing around and getting the boys are playing and A,
I guess it's just it's just wasn't the week not
playing against that guy, Damn Broncos defense. And listen, you
said what they was gonna do and then went out
there and did everything you said it was gonna do.
And it's almost like it's almost like the Jets don't
even look like an NFL team. Damn there like they.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Do at times, they really don't. I'm like, did y'all practice?
Ain't no way. You either either one or two things.
You're not practicing or you're practicing to be just this
bad because normally people practice to be good.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You got to practice doing what they're doing. This is bad.
This is bad.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
And I hate it for a G because I know
AG personally, I know him well. He's a He's a
really good dude. But he could not have gotten off
to the worst start because these guys, for whatever reason,
whatever they're coaching is not resonating. It's not getting through
to them. Garrett Wilson was asked on the SA asked
(20:01):
about his sideline exchange with Oh, Joe, let's take yeah,
let's take a listen to what he had to say.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
And at the end of the first half, when you
were walking off the field, is that the way the
driving way?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Really?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Like, you know, that stuff like that is just I
don't know, y'all. Y'all, I just didn't know exactly what
the plan was, and and once I figured it out,
you know, I was disappointed and I would just say that, so, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
How do you run a ply?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Is that what you mean?
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Yeah, I didn't know exactly like what the plan was.
I just I just thought we were once we you know,
converted the fourth down, I just thought we were going further,
you know, trying to make the play, and then obviously
we get to another fourth down and it's a tough
spot to be in. So, you know, in hindsight, I
get why they did that, but in the moment, I
was just like, man, I don't know, Yeah, m hm.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
He's speaking, he's speaking specifics. Huh, he's speaking, you know, Yes,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I didn't know what they was doing. I was like,
y'all just gonna let the time run out. Ain't nobody,
you're not gonna run to play, You're not the clock managements.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Well, and I'm like, well, letting the clock go all
the way down, Let's let's try to do something. Let's
let's do something. But obviously, you know he's frustrated. He's frustrated.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, it would be. The guy was hold up. The
guy has been.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
He was offensive rookie of the year with some very
marginal quarterbacks, and allegedly supposedly they had supposed to have
gotten better quarterbacks, but his stats aren't indicative of that.
So he's frustrated by that. Second of all, when you
(21:42):
do what they did, it tells me you don't trust
your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yeah, oh you don't.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
That's the only reason you would do something like that,
because we've seen other teams with other quarterbacks with that
same amount of time try to run plays. And if
we got time, we're gonna call, we're gonna use our timeouts,
or we're gonna cheat to help the guys hope the
guys get out of bounds. But when you just let
that amount of time just run off the clock, no
(22:08):
way in hell you cannot get vince me the.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Ump the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
You don't because that's the only reason you do a
time like that. We can't put our team. We can't
put our quarterback because the decision making is not where
it needs to be. Debate, be able to put him
in situations that might not be advantageous for him, because
he might make the wrong decision with the ball. We
can't trust him.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
To make matters worse.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Wilson suffered an injury to one of his knee ligaments,
and he'll have an in my eye upon returning to
New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Oh yo.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Look and when he did and he was laid with
the ball, he was all over the place. He had
him on the out and and and he throws it
behind him. He had another guy he had he would
have had the first down, and you know he ends
up hurting his back and so the gold down. They
don't even have Gary Wilson in the ball game.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I'm like, whatever could go wrong went wrong today for
their mom.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
It we're wrong with o yo.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Even the best defense attorney, Will it struck you at
some point in time. We don't have a winnable case
at some point in time, and it's coming sooner rather
than later. Hey, I don't know. I don't I don't
(23:25):
know how much further I can stick my neck out
for Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Hey, I don't know, Oyo, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
In order to have a chance on in his league
is thirty two teams. In order to have a chance,
I don't care who's coaching. I don't care what you
have on office line. I don't care what you have
at the receiver. I don't care what you have on defense.
In order to have a chance in today's era of football,
you gotta have a quarterback. He doesn't have to be
the fastest, He didn't have to have the best arm.
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He just has to be consistent in his decision making.
He has to have exquisite anticipatory skills and being able
to play this play the position, being able to process
information in front of him, and being able to do
exactly what you ask him to make sure that offense
goes whatever that may be, whatever it may be.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I thought, I thought this.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
To be good for Justin Fields, especially with the signs
that he showed us with the Steers last year and
who into a winning record until Russell Wilson was given
the job by Mike Tomlin. Like, you know what if
Justin Fields gets his own team, I think he's gonna
be okay because he showed flashes of brilliance and what
he could do when he's quarterback number one. Now, your
quarterback number one, you ain't got nobody to worry about.
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You don't have nobody looking over your shoulder, so you
can actually play free. You can. Based on the play
calls and some of the things that they were doing,
it's like they don't even trust in the quarterback that
they have because they're not. The play calling isn't free.
We have to protect our quarterback from himself. So you
know what we want to have We're gonna let the
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clock round because we don't we don't even want to
put him in this situation. We have to make certain
decisions because it can go wrong.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
You're right, it's bad.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
It's bad, and I know, and and AG's like wants
to show support, But I don't know how much longer
that because at the end of the day, O Joe,
you got fifty other guys in that locker room now,
and I understand the lord team that you want to
have for your quarterback and you want to show support,
but you'll lose the locker room supporting one as opposed
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to the other guys, because they'll look like and they know,
O Joe, you've been in locker rooms for a long time.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I've been in locker rooms.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And and maybe Tyrod, maybe it's time to a maybe
you give it a couple of more games, you like, well, hey,
justin I'm sorry, We're gonna have to let let let
Tyrod have a go a.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Bit see see if you can get some things going.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Because this is this, this doesn't this does this is
this is terrible. Now. Look Lebronco defenses really good. That
front seven.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Oh they get at the quarterback and if you think
about it, they're rotational the a Bonito and Cooper. They'll
go a series and then the next they got a
whole different center looking lineup and they they got that.
They gotta they got a NASCAR package that they just
keep rotating them and they keep coming. They collapse you
from the outside and then you got big Allen collapse
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in the middle. So or and they're gonna run you
into somebody. If you run wide, Coop got you. If
you run to the other side, Benito got you. You
try to step up in the pocket, you got alan
collapse in the pocket. So they're really good, don't get
me wrong. Now, that's not a slop defense. And passertained
is legit. He is legit. He is hands down the better.
Ya Hey.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
He is smooth man.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
He is so smooth the way he can transition, and
he's long a his r like this along and.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
So he doesn't have to be that close to do
this or to do this.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, really good, we exchange.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
He's he's so fluid.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I mean for someone to be as tall as he
is and to be as fluid through the hips as
he is, because bro, he backfell and get out of
there in a hurry, and he could whip his hips
and go.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
But oh, y'all. Being raised on a farm, I was.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
In four h went to county fairs, went to a
goat show, a cow show, and I've seen it, and
I've been to the circus. I ain't never seen no
ish like what I saw with it yesterday.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
You done been around a lot of football too, You
ain't seen no legacy.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I have, but today to this today I'm talking about like,
look and I've been on I was like, damn, I'm
trying to think. I think maybe one other time that
I've actually been around and I saw hell I was
a part of it. Had I think you got to
go back to ninety two and the Eagles. The Eagles
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beat us. I think they beat us thirty to nothing.
I don't know if we had fifty yards of total offense. Yeah, no,
the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
No. I was with the Broncos game.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, but that was so that was what thirty three
years ago, and you gotta think about it, o Jo.
They said, the last time somebody had that fewer yards
of the passing game that was ninety eight. That was
twenty seven years ago, so you're talking about almost three decades.
This doesn't happen often, So people, I don't want you
to think that, oh man, that could No, this does
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not happen often, especially in today's game when it's catered
for the quarterback and the receivers because you can't punish
the quarterback and it's hard for you to touch the receivers. So,
with that being said, to get a performance like what
they got, today o JO eighty two yards of total.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Office and that's a testament of how good that defense
actually is, even with them being handicapped because of the rules.
That's just how good they are.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
And how bad the opposing team was.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
It's that too. Hey, listen, two things can be true
and you.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
They absolutely can be true. But I don't I don't
know where the Jets go. I do know, I do
know they take their ass home. And then you know,
that's a long that's a long ass flight to take
an ass whipping you.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
So even watch film or do you do you?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Hell no, I ain't showing that.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I was gonna say, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I'm putting that where they put Jimmy Hoffer. What the hell,
whoever the hell that is, I'm burying that take. Ain't
nobody gonna see that. As a matter of fact, I'm
gonna suit NFL films that they show it. You better
be glad that they got. Like remember they used to
have inside the NFL O shorty, they have the Thursday
night they have the game bore you, Yeah, and they
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show highlight from the game. Now show that, don't y'all
show it a d thing? But but this was this
was bad. This was bad, and and and you can lose.
You can lose. You can lose a locker room.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
If there's one thing about losing the locker room and
the coach having to make a very tough decision, you know, forquarterback,
for a quarterback that you can sit you at number one,
a quarterback that that that's been paid. Is the backup?
Is the backup? The answer? Because once once you make
a move in the middle of a season like this,
we're only in week six. Once you make a move
like this, you're making a movie.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I think they give them a couple more weeks. Soho.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But if they don't turn this thing around, I can
see such oho if we owe and we owe and
a oh and nine, oh and ten? So what we
try to I mean, what are we trying to do?
Because I already know a team and another team that's
in the Midwest that's trying to get the No. One pick,
that's Cleveland and we'll talking about them in a minute.
So are the Jets trying to get the number one pack?
Because you trying to get no more pigspense? I see
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where you go because that quarterback that you bring in
the tie rods gonna try to win games. I'm just
telling you, and I'm not saying Justin Fields isn't. So
you just tell just tell me what to do. Because
here's the thing. These other guys in the locker room,
they don't care that you're trying to do for the future.
I ain't trying to get my head split right now
while you building for the future. Damn your future. My
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future is right now because I might not even be
here when we get good.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Yeah, which is true, Which is true. And they're they're
gonna be some heads rolling now. They're gonna be some attitudes,
they're gonna be some frustrations, especially from five. You know,
Garrett Wilson ain't finna go for that. Garret's not finna
go five. You paid me like the receiver that I am.
Please use me as such. Please use me as such,
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Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Last week, Rico Ddell ran for over two hundred yards.
He knew the Cowboy was on the schedule. They ask him,
he said, tell them to buckle up. They didn't buckle up.
The Cowboys beat the Panthers. Excuse me. The Panthers beat
the Cowboys by the score of thirty to twenty seven.
Another game in which the Cowboys defense were exposed. Brian
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Schottenheimer stood up for his defensive coordinator, Matt Eberflus. The
Cowboys allowed two hundred and sixteen rushing yards, a season high,
led by former Cowboy rico'donald, who had one hundred and
eighty three yards on thirty carries. It marked the fourth
time the Cowboys have allowed at least one hundred and
forty four yards rushing this season. It's also the fourth
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time this season the Cowboys have allowed at least thirty points.
It was also the fourth game they have recorded one
or fewer sacks. Now, I remember O Joe, because you
know Michael couldn't stop the run, and you know a
dakins indispensable.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And Dakin's playing well, Kaka's playing well.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But Dak is under the same situation that your quarterback
was on the last year because his defense is so putrid.
If he punts the ball, when he gets it back,
if he had a lead, they're either gonna be tied
or they're gonna be closer than they were when he
punted the ball. Because his defense can't stop anybody. That
defense is atrocious. Now they keep blaming I don't know
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what it is. They fired Mike Nolan. They said it
was Mike Nolan. Now, some of those players were still
there with they had a zim it was them.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
He wasn't no good.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
They got Mike Ebberflues. So they've had three or four
different coordinators and a lot of those same players that
were there are still there now. I want to know,
oh Joy, at some point in time, we got to
start holding these players accountably because we quick to that coach,
that's coordinator, that this, that that.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
It's the coach, it's the scheme. But it's never it's
never the players, which is why I'm tired of hearing that,
and I'm trying to hear I'm tired of hearing that,
especially out of the five, one, three all the time.
But we'll get to that game in a minute. But
I said this before the season started on people laughed
at me when I said my surprise team I had two.
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I had to them was the Bears and the other
one was the Carolina Panthers. I told him, I want
you to watch out for the Panthers. I want to
want you to want you to watch out for Bryce Young,
watch out for the defense, and watch out for the court.
I mean, watch out for the receivers and what are
they doing? You saw they did to the panthers. I mean,
excuse me. You saw what they did to Atlanta Falcons
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not long ago. You saw what you did today? Young
buy young Bull. I don't I don't want to. I
don't want to butcher his last name running back? How
you said the right way?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
On?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Hey? Hey?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
People say Donelle, but I think they say I think.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
It's I'm gonna daddle or dad l.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I heard it both ways. I don't.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I don't listen to the broadcast. So chat, y'all have
to have to tell me how they said ash on
the broadcast.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
How do they say it? Do they say Dodelle or
they say Donald?
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You know, people don't play by their last name. Now, hey,
but listen, boy, he was on a mission. He was
on the mission.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It wasn't it wasn't nothing about him today? You know Rico, Rico?
You know Rico? What not?
Speaker 4 (35:01):
What?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Nothing cute about Rico? Today?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
He told you this, Oh Joe, this man called this shot.
This man said he was gonna Donna.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
You know, how do you know how difficult that is
to call your shot in the middle of the week
before the game and tell people to buckle up and
then actually go out there and do exactly what's gonna do,
which is the reason why you said you need to
buckle up. On the ground catching the air man Mandelle
was all over the place.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, dowdle but I thought that. But I was like, hey,
they say downie, But what O Joe? At some point,
at some point, Jerry has to understand his defense is built.
They're undersized. When you have an undersized defense, what does that.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Mean, O Joe?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
You're built to play with a lead because you want
to eliminate the one game because you're fourteen seventeen points up.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
They're not gonna run it. Now.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
You use those underside guys to stream up the stream
up field. Okay, what happens when you got to sit
your light ass in there and catch They ain't gotta
They ain't got nobody I heard with Jared. I'm very
disappointed in you because everything with you, you were yacking.
You win a game, you yacking, You had a tie
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ball game and they couldn't get him out the podium. Hell,
they thought it was a ring masters.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Hey her right up?
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Now, I care A lot of them put foots in you.
But now you Jared didn't speak to the media. Why
not because.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Oh no, absolutely not a talk.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, exactly front running Now oh oh hold up, you
remember Cole, You remember what was the last week?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
And then you see what they're talking about.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Now look at it, everything that went wrong. Well, you
know Michael wasn't good against the run. Okay, Michael gone,
what's your problem?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Now?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Well we didn't go that far when we had Michael. Okay,
how far you gonna go without him?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Now? Because you're two three and one.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Hey, listen, if if they're gonna have a shot now,
I know we didn't get to it yet, but offensively
we get that in a minute. But boy, boy dak
well he earning every bit of that's sixty. He earned it,
every bit of that's sixty or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Empty calories, don't yoe empty calories. If you go, if
you say, you know what, if you say, man, you
know what, I'm gonna get in shape. I'm I'm gonna
get in shape. I'm gonna eat healthy, bro, you go
eat twinking the ho hose, all the mills and empty calories.
They don't do nothing for you. They said that craving
but they add absolutely no nutrition. That's what those things
that you.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Got to understand. Listen, I'm doing my job. I'm doing
what I'm supposed to do. This is a team game,
right so yeah, you're supposed to win. Yeah, that that too.
But to give it need y'all to stop something over here.
I did not stop some over here.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I will say. To his credit though, o Jo, he
hasn't turned clean. He playing, so I will concede. But
but it's hard because he knows he has to be
perfect because my team not gonna stop anybody right now,
right hey, right now, we can't stop.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
A park car.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
We already so you know that going into the ball game,
I already know what I'm up against.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
That secondary look like you can't stop what part car.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I don't know if Diggs, I don't know if Diggs
is still hurt, he's still he's not the same. Digs
don't even look the same to me. I know dig
Digs better than this. I don't know is that injury
if he's one hundred percent recovery, because I know he's
you know, you know, they find him five hundred thousand
because he wasn't around or whatever's going on. But he
doesn't look. He was always a clure. He was always
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a gainser. And and and look now.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
He got in.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
He got incredible hands. He gets his hands on the ball,
he comes down with.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Most of the times when he does guess, he guessed
in the right way because you know what's coming. Because
he didn't look, he didn't look the same day.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
He ain't looked the same in a while. He ain't
looked the same in a while.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And and the defense, and because look they got those guys,
those and like I said, teams just gonna run the ball.
And now when you run the ball, you're gonna have
to drop the safety down. And now you don't really
have no.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Help over the dome at all.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I mean, if they ran the ball thirty eight times
for two sixteen, think it back. You did last in
total yards you like twenty fourth and rush yards allowed,
you probably didn't last the points were there? Points allowed
because they gave up forty to the packers. They gave
up thirty to day, they gave up what twenty four
they've probably average giving up twenty four. They're close to
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the bottom that they twenty eight thirty two in points
a lot.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Don't be nobody should be surprised if you're in the
chat tonight. I'm sure you're a faithful fan. You've been
and you've been watching for a very long time. I
told you before the season started, I told you about
them Panthers. Everybody laughed at me. Outside the Panthers fans,
everybody laughed at me. Oh oh, joh man. They sorry,
they did say that. I told you no, and I
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kept acting. Now I'm gonna remind you again. Hey, he
founding bitch, all right?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
But see, harr is the problem that I have. You
have You see.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
At some point in time now, you're gonna have to,
like when you get the ball, you gonna have to
keep putting points on the board. You can't be content
when you gotta lead. They put the ball, you gotta
go get points again. Because you know that was an
anomaly that your defense stopped them. What's the likelihood your
defense is gonna pitch are shut out the second hand?
I have one right, they gave up They gave up seven.
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They gave up ten points in the fourth quarter. More
time than not that they scored three in the fourth quarter,
So they scored ten and they gave up seventeen. Bryce
young seventeen or twenty seventeen or twenty five A buck
ninety nine, three touchdowns, one pick, sack, one time for
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five yards, thirty eight carries, two under sixteen yards. George
Pickens playing in the last off.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Well, you see, remember we talked about Remember I told
you what You're gonna have no issues out of out
of bruh. I told you that, not that.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Conversation, George.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
I know you're gonna see this why I love you.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
But I love you.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
I told you it's okay, It's okay.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
This is this is why your team is two three
and one.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
The Cowboys dead lasting total D, dead lasting past D,
dead last, and third down percentage second to the worst.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Points allowed, averaging thirty point seven points a game.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Wait, offensively, I'm sure they're the hiding way higher than that.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah, you ain't overcoming that because you because think about
what you got to think about O Joe. In order
for you to have it, they give it up thirty
point seven. So in that order for you to be winning,
that means you got to.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Score thirty point eight game. That's very game, Barry.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
They got the second best offense on Joe, fourth in points,
the fourth in points twenty nine point seven, So you
give up one more Ojo, see that we were close.
All I need to do is score one more point
than you, and that's what they average. Guess what they
scored twenty nine point seven. They give up thirty point seven.
So guess what if you score twenty nine, I score thirty.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
You know that situation right there. To give people a
better perspective, to give people a better context. It sounds
like another team. When my quarterback is healthy, we go
through that same issue. Because we've been going thirty eight
games with everybody is healthy. She got the team scoring
thirty two. We scored forty, they score fifty. You can't
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win for Luke.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, well you saw it last year. Y'all scored thirty eight.
Y'all lose forty one to thirty eight. Y'all scored thirty five,
they scored thirty eight.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Well, Jerry said Michael was the problem, Jerry.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
But Jared didn't say Jared. Jared didn't say anything today.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I want to know see front running now, see all
that you all out the window and the owner's box,
you all out. Oh, we're just having a good time
we have you know, the cowboy fans we traveled, the
cowboy fans.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
We just having a good old time. I ain't see it. Hey,
this is all this is what you saw.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
This is what you saw today, Ojo and and the
funny like the kids a school kids.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
When it's rated outside and you ain't got no refair, you.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
Gotta sit there and look out the window. You know,
something like this.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
How do you fix it?
Speaker 4 (44:16):
How do you fix that? Though? This is just not
a one player issue. Defensively, this is not.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
A one you gotta get. You gotta get better players.
You gotta get better players.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
You build your It's hard to get them now because
you got what you got. But you have a team.
You have a team that's built on playing with the lead. Well,
if you can't get the lead, o yo, you can't
just turn them loose, because if.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
You just run your ass up the field, they're gonna
just run where you will left.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
So you you catch it that they too small they
got they ain't got no bricks in the back pocket.
You can't drop anchor with them little light ass guys.
They got up there, man, they got guys back pockets
shaking hand. They're so small a matter.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Of fact, you know what I'm thinking about it if
I was Jerry, and listen, I'm putting my owner's hat on.
I'm putting my owner's hat. I need to get someone
the anchor that front, someone that I can build around,
and he could be that centerpiece for me.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Jared don't care about winning. Oo.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
We've been we've been determined that I'm.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Just hypothetically talking. Hey, Chad, tell me what you think
right now, Tennessee Titans. I'm going to get Jeffrey Simmons
the anchor my defense and build from that bill from
there out, build from the inside out, the start over.
What you think I'm going to get.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
You, Well, George Picking's gonna want a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
George Picking's gonna want it.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
Least and he's gonna get dk money because let me
show you.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Let me show you.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
What's gonna happen or what can happen Ceedee Lamb, who's
considered the top five quarter quarterback, who's considered the top
five receiver when we talk about receiving when he goes out,
let me show you what I do. I can pick
up right where you left. Let me if I get
the opp too, and he's I deserve that I should
have got when I was in you know where. I'm
not gonna bring I'm not gonna bring them up. But
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I can do he put a number two, I can
take you deep, or I can take a slam to
the house. Man, Stop playing, is what I do.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Hey, if he gets his hands on the ball and
he faced your ass up, good look getting that there,
getting his ass racket. He he reminds you of a
smaller version of t O. You remember how t O
ran a Because if To got the ball in his
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hands and he faced you up, you not you right
here in front of him, not getting him on the ground,
You better hope that. Hey, I'm gonna, hey, come on,
which were you go? I'm gonna try to hold him.
I come on, man, damn, I can't hold him here
forever you breathe help?
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Come? What the hell? Man?
Speaker 1 (46:54):
And that's how y'all, that's what they happened to a
big If he get the ball in his hands and
he hers around and square.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
Your hair up, and then he and you know it's funny,
he's faster then he looked because he ain't nobody.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
He played fast. He might not be fast. He might
have I don't even know what he he might have
ran for fo O Joe. But they're there are guys
that might not run fast but play fast. That's Jerry.
Jerry didn't run fast, but he played fast. Em It
didn't run fast, but he played fast. He has what
they call functional speed. He has football speed. You get
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him out there to test. But boy, man, that.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
I told, I told you before the season started, they
wouldn't you did.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
I am I'm glad because I got you.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Man, make this money, bro, you got you got an
opportunity to make two hundred million dollars to set your
family up for generations and generations.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
I mean that might be a George picking the fourth.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
They say, my great great granddad put me and put
me and put this family in position. Pro don't waste
that they don't don't don't, don't, don't mess up your
money with some foolishness. The best thing to happen. He
needed to get out of Pittsburgh. He needed to change
the scenery. And sometimes that's what that's what it takes, Ojoe.
Sometimes it takes a change of scenery. Sometimes it takes
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somebody him or her to get into a new relationship
in order for them to be their very best.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Absolutely, absolutely and I'm glad for him. But again, I know, I.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Know, I'm I'm happy, but the Cowboys I know it
was but Jared don't care about when Oyo, we've decided this.
You and I we talked about this in the years.
Jared cared more about money.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Yeah, we understand that too. But I'm thinking from a
defensive perspective with him being list in every category and
every statistic and every metric in every standard. When it
comes to football week six Novembers coming up deadline, you
never know if you were to make some some type
of uh hasty move, I would love to see them.
(49:04):
It probably won't happen. I'm just thinking, as I'm putting
my gym hat on, I'm going to get Jeffrey Simmons,
you know, quality top three defense defensive tackle in the
NFL right right now to this day. Boom, I'm putting
you right there on a bill around you. I'm a
I'm a bill around you. Yeah, that's just me chat
what y'all think.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Jack, I know y'all they line back their linebackers are
very good. O Yo. Now their linebackers not very good.
The ain't nothing. They ain't got no plug.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
I mean look Sam with if they got guys trying
to rush off the edge. But I'm talking about like
like a a mic back.
Speaker 4 (49:40):
Hold on, understand, let me tell you something. You might
not like what they have right now because with that
Backer had, that Mike Backer had in front of them,
it's lighting ass. Now what happened? If you go get
that big ninety eight from goddamn over there in Tennessee
and you get to you get that, you get to
be able to roll.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Why I want to get why I want to give
him up to you? What you're gonna get me? Uh?
Wasn't the first round picks that you got from the Packers?
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Maybe we can Hey, listen, if I if we Jerry,
we can negotiate.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
But Jerry, but Jerry don't like that, oh Joe, he don't.
He don't want to give up. He likes Jerry likes
to develop players. So Jerry, Jerry, Jerry has gotten burned
uh uh in free agency. And so he's like that,
he's done with it. He's done with it. He's not
gonna he's gonna get guys that he gonna get the
Jadevian Clowney and and and and Clowney had. But Clowney
(50:30):
is He's not gonna He's not gonna move the He's
not gonna move the needle.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
He's not the clowny of old.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
If we had that discussion, we don't think he ever
lived up to what we thought he was gonna be.
He was in the draft with Khalil Mack. Khalil Mack
turned out to be the better player. That's what what
what what he what Khalil Mack is, that's what we
thought Jadevian Clowney was gonna be based on what we
saw in college. You probably gotta go back to it
(50:59):
and Dominican Sue to find a guy that raised hell
now the dominated like Jadavian Clowney.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Did his sophomore year.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
His junior year, he was just trying not to get hurt,
so he didn't play like he did his sophomore year.
But go back and look at it, Dominquin Soue last year,
he was like, Okay, that's the best player in the country. Now,
I forget who won the Heisman Trophy that year? Uh, Sam,
I think what the Sam Rafford. Sam Brafford won that
was the best and Domainkin Sue was the best player
(51:28):
in the country that year. That's what we thought Jadavian
Clowney was gonna be. But we'll see what Jerry's gonna
do right now. I mean it would have been I've
been lovely to hear.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
From him, but.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Unfortunately we did not hear from him, O Joe. But
a team that we did hear from to day Aaron
Rodgers to as the Steelers continued their home dominance over
the Browns by the score of twenty three to nine.
Steelers seemingly o jo on cruise control. There four and
one in the division, Cleveland one in five, Baltimore one
(52:05):
in five, I think one in five. Uh, Cincinnati has
lost what four straight?
Speaker 3 (52:11):
So now they're two and four Pittsburgh division to.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
Lose absolutely, and honestly, I don't see I don't see
him losing it. And I can say, yeah, I can
say this as as as much as I love my Bangals,
I don't see him losing it now. I saw some
some some something nice. We'll talk about later when we
get to the Bengals. But god damn, Aaron Rodgers got
them boys playing on all cyling zone, the special offense
playing on all cylinders. As good as that defense is
(52:42):
over in Pittsburgh's with the names that they do have,
they start yelling and playing that good football the right
way that know we know, the way we know they
can play. They gonna be fine. As long as Aaron
Rodgers is playing like Aaron Rodgers is playing that they
always gonna be in contention and they're going to be
hard to beat. Forget right now, I ain't talking about
Week six. I'm talking about when real football starts after Thanksgiving,
(53:07):
getting into the postseason, when it's cold and you got
to go over there to it ain't called heines Field
no more. Think when you got to take your field, Well,
you ain't gonna be able to throw the ball fifty
times a game. You're gonna have to put it on
the ground, and you got Cam Hayward. You got god
damn TJ walk coming off that God damn in and
(53:28):
up down. I forgot young bull name, whether it's Smith
fifty six, fifty six, he got man stop playing man?
Yeah nice now then't then the back end really ain't
got no weakness.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
Now it's called across Sure Stadium now, no longer hines
Field Aftersure Stadium for sure.
Speaker 4 (53:50):
I'll tell you what I mean. No disrespect to acting. Sure,
I like to say Heines Field because that's where I
play that.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
I got that reson, I played it, play the hidest field,
and I played the three Rivers.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
The old three.
Speaker 4 (54:02):
They had the carpet. They had the carpet.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, stel yeah, and the state of stadium
would be bouncing. I mean you, I mean you can
literally see if it's bouncing up and down.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
They started rocking.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
The Browns offense failed to a clip seventeen points for
the eleventh straight game. Dylan Gabriel uh twenty nine and
fifty two, two hundred and twenty one yards, six sacks,
six times. How do you so you mean to tell
me your guy, You're gonna let your guy and it's
(54:35):
set to start. You gonna let him throw the ball
fifty two times against that defense on the road.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
Hard to run on the Steelers, Huh, it's hard. It's
hard to run on the Steelers. So the other, the
only other viable option is is you gotta throw it.
And when you think about Dylan Gabriel, when you watch
him in the games where he's had success, anything outside
inside the numbers, inside the hashes, he's really good. It's
nothing nothing really long. You know sometime you get some
some short dig some some dig.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
If you know that, guess who else knows that that
he's good inside the numbers on short stuff?
Speaker 3 (55:08):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, that's what thanks. Oh think about it.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
You threw the ball fifty two times and you only
had two and twenty one yards. Hey, you missed twenty
three attempts.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Bro Cleveland. If y'all try to get the number one pick,
just say that.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
Whoa No they not no, no, no, they wanted number one
pick for what they get? What quarterback? Because they's nothing
we don't seen on Saturday that's willing to wait for.
Absolutely not no they.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
I guess they want that that that pass rushing number
six from Miami and pair him with Miles Garrett. I
don't know, maybe trade it for some more players.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
I like you, I see whe you're going like. I
like what you think. I like what you're putting up.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Hey, Miles Garrett said, losing the same way. It's frustrated, Miles.
This is what you signed up for. You took the money.
I ain't got no problem with that, o Jo, I
have no problem with that. But Miles Garant knew they
were not going to win. They really haven't won since
he been there, They've gotten worse, So you can't say
(56:16):
it gets old. When you took the money, you said
you wanted a chance to win. They dangle forty million
dollars per year, gave you one hundred plus one hundred
and five hundred.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Ten million, fully guaranteed. You took the money.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
So now you can't complain because you knew what made
you trust them that they were gonna be able to
do something in one to two years. They haven't been
able to do in your ten years since you've been there.
Speaker 4 (56:43):
You're talking, but you know, you know that wasn't it.
You know, you know, you know why. There was no
guaranteed money left.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
So I got I know, I know, I got it.
That's what I say. Say.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
Look, he ain't got no guaranteed money. He won't guaranteed money.
He gonna say, I won't out, Really he won't guarantee money.
I get that, O jo, I get it. I do
and chat. I don't want y'all to think I don't understand,
but don't complain. When you said you said you wanted
a chance to win, you said you wanted to compete.
You knew with the exception of that one year, You
(57:14):
guys haven't been able to compete, and you trust this
organization to build, to build pieces around you and do
the right thing.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
By getting a quarterback. You trusted them.
Speaker 4 (57:26):
And they already hope they have a bad history at
that specific position, the one position you need to be
able to compete, to be able to contend. This The
identity for the Cleveland Browns has always been their defense.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
It has been.
Speaker 4 (57:44):
The hard part has been finding quarterback that is good,
not great, just good enough to consistently not only keep
you in games, but win games when in certain situations,
especially games that are close. You just haven't you go
through straight a string of maybe four weeks, five weeks
(58:05):
of really good I'm about consistently throughout a season, right,
especially when it matters most. You haven't been able to
find that.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
No, he's and I'm I'm and I'm supposed to trust
you that you're going to find that. But but what
he's finding out, O Joe, is that money really can't
buy happiness when you are a competitor and you want
to win and to go out there and beat Yet,
guess what that direct deposit is gonna hit every Monday,
or if you get paid on the first and fifteen,
(58:36):
that deposit is gonna hit.
Speaker 3 (58:38):
But them losses, they hurt.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
I guarantee you when you're out there taking an l
A I have number one time, like man, that check
gonna be in, that chick gonna be No, I'm going
to get my check, so I ain't. I just got
direct deposited in twenty sixteen. But anyway, I never thought
that they I'm gonna go upstairs tomorrow get that pay
checking like that. No, we don't when them l start
that add up on Yo, I've been lose, lost six
(59:02):
games in the row, seven games in a row. Band,
Please you out there practicing and then guess what. Guess
what was about to happen on Joe, tell them what's
gonna happen in Cleveland? That temperature about to draw cold.
It's gonna get cold. And guess what you get cold?
Now you're out there practicing in the twenty degree and
then come Sunday you practice, you playing in twenty degrees
(59:24):
fifteen ten and you catching al after al after al
after al.
Speaker 3 (59:31):
And yeah, out y'all.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
Dylan Gabriel completed four passes over ten yards in the air. Today,
he threw the ball fifty two times, but Kevin Stefanski
kept him in the game for the entire as I.
Speaker 4 (59:43):
Told you, they don't. They don't. You see how they
protect justin fields when when they're going to the end
of the half because of the decision making, we don't
know what he's gonna do with the ball. So how
do you hide the quarterback weaknesses whatever weaknesses he may
have that we can't see. Now, you and I know
he can't throw outside the numbers. He can't be on
(01:00:05):
the left hand and throw atr comeback on the right side.
Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Of the Oh hell no, the.
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Type of quarterback, it will come back the other way
for a touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
So you have to call plays that are predicated to
his strengths. His strengths are throwing intermediate and in short routes.
So therefore you all plays based on what he's able
to do extremely well. Now that's no knock on him,
that's no knock on him. So what we ask of you,
that's all what we're asking you based on what you
can do well for us offensively. That's what we're gonna
(01:00:37):
do because that's what you provide for us as a quarterback. Now,
that limits your playbook.
Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
It limits what you can call or limits some of
the things you like to do, as opposed to other
quarterbacks that have the arm strength or the other or
the powers to be able to open up the playbook
and do and do more.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
That's what you have to do. So, I mean I
didn't want to say it like that. I thought everyone
else could see that and understood that, especially when you
when you watch him play some of the some of
the players at the call. Now some some frustrations might
might arise with maybe may Jerry Judy who.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Jerry Judy had thirteen targets called five passes, Fanning Jr.
Had ten targets caught seven and Joeku had six caught three.
Damn oh, Joe, I had a more DK four catches
man uh uh. He had a go ball and Roger
and the wind called it it brought it, brought it back.
Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
I mean he was like he was like five yards
in the draft.
Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Hold on, wait, he caught he caught one deep ball
on that that stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
He caught it. The ball that was later but he
ended up.
Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
But he had one that had been that had been
a to that was a show enough touchdown and Rogers
put it up, and I guess the wind called it
because Rogers he turned abut and looked up.
Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Like, damn, I ain't know. I ain't know it was
like that.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
But uh, oh, Joe, I don't I don't know what
Cleveland's doing. I don't know if they're trying to get that,
they're trying to get the number one.
Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Pick, because you're gonna have to fight just there. This
is This is no knock and chat. Y'all know because
y'all watch college football. There is nothing out there that
is glaring where it's like where teams are clamoring for
those who were in situations like the Browns or let's
say like the Cowboy defensively where you know what, we
(01:02:34):
got to have him. We got to have him, so
we're gonna do it's necessary to make sure we're in
position to be able to get him. It's nobody like
that right now, and nobody popping out on film. There
might be some off of the attackle or some defensive
tackles that we don't know about, but the skill position
or quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
They need to go get that. Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
They need to trade the two draft pick they got
this year and to go out there and get that
Uh that guy.
Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
From Miami band Jr.
Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
Hey a night.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
You need to hell raising like that. Those are the
type of guys that change the future, that change your fortunes.
That's what they need to eat nice hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
But uh, I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I don't like Dylan Gabriel throwing and letting Dylan Gabral
throw the ball fifty two times.
Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Bro. He threw four passes and had ten yards of
air distance.
Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
He completed four passes over ten yards in the air
of the day, so everything is checked down.
Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
He dinking and dunkin and checking it down.
Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Now you know the digging and dunkin work. It can work,
depending on you can be efficient digging and duncan. But
at some point, once some boys say you know what
we're coming up, we can we go.
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
You gotta be able to put the ball over their head, though, Joe.
At some point in time, you gotta put the man.
You gotta put it. You gotta put somebody on your feet.
You gotta put fit. You gotta put fit.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
You gotta put oh, Joe.
Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
If I don't fit, Bro, I'm sitting on every I
used to.
Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Play the Raiders and the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
You had to throw in the in the first ten players,
you had to throw a go ball or them more
folds gonna.
Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Sit right there.
Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
On everything when you played the Raiders, when you played
had a t MAC and they had Albert Lewis. So
we went over there and they had Dale Card in
Kansas City and they had a.
Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
What's I forget the guy's name. Lord, have mercy.
Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
If you did not move them, if you did not
throw a go ball, even it's like, look, we ain't
trying to complete it, but you gotta put fear on them,
because boy, they ain't moving.
Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
They're not moving. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
I First of all, y'all, we know y'all not gonna
throw it deep. You know why we know y'all not
gonna throw it deep because we know y'all don't have
a really offensive line that can hold up to throw it.
And then second of all, if you do throw it deep,
guess what, O Joe, you ain't right, no running game?
So what am I stepping up to stop and run for?
So with that being said, now we squatting on everything.
(01:05:05):
Prove to me I'm wrong?
Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
He yeh Darien junkins Junkins is hurt.
Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Yep uh.
Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
He had twelve carries for thirty six yards. He might
have got hurt in the game. I was, you know,
I was back. I was back and forth. Man, It's
it's hard for me to stay It's hard for me
to stay interested in that, right there, Oh Joe, it's hard.
Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
You know. I watched the seriesson, I'm like, bro, bro,
what is this? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
I thought they would have lead. I thought they would
have leaned on him a little bit more so. I thought, well,
maybe maybe he's hurt, maybe something's wrong with him. But
if your quarterback isn't as good, or you're not able
to do some of the things you want to do
to make sure you're able to be competitive, you want
to hide him by running the ball a little bit more.
(01:05:52):
You want to you want to put that load and
that onus, on that on that on your running back
to be able to get things going or to make
it easier. Forget balance. You got to be a run
that You got to be a run heavy team first.
You got to be.
Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
I ain't trying to do no balance. You ain't got
no balance for that, right there? I mean Jayleen Ramsy
had two sacks. Jayleen ramsays, Jayleen ramsay, I'm trying to
give me ten sacks of a corner. Uh Hebrie I
had uh two sacks. Hot Smith had had a half
a sack. Teacher had a half a sack. So they
(01:06:32):
have six sacks sotals, six tacks, six sacks total. But
I don't know what Cleveland trying to do. But whatever it.
Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
Is, you know, you know what, it's almost unfair. It's
almost unfair to have to judge Gabriel against that damn defense.
It's almost unfair. I know it's your division opponent, but hell,
it ain't that many people that look good against the
goddamn Steelers and the quarterbacks that do you know they
(01:07:00):
in conversations of the epper echelon quarterbacks when they come
to being able to dismantle that damn defense
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Patrick Mahomes' hand.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And then shove Juju shoots Juju pas the start of brawl.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Patrick Mahons threw for two hundred and fifty seven yards
three touchdowns, ran for another score. Hollywood Brown had his
best game as a Chief two touchdowns. Looked more like
Mahomes of Oh, the Chiefs offense is starting to get
back in the gear and starting to look like the
Chiefs offense that we're used to seeing. When Patrick Mahomes
basically started in what twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen and ran
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that thing all the way until like twenty three. This
is the offense that we expected to see. Twenty two
or thirty two fifty seven, three touchdowns. They ran the
ball twenty nine times fo one hundred and twelve yards.
Really good, no turnovers, This clean game for Mahome boy,
Oh Joe looking at we'll get to Detroit talk about
them in a minute.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
What did you like about what you saw?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
From the fact that we see in the early Chiefs
that we all used to love, we're seeing the Chiefs
that scored damn their twenty eight to thirty points a game.
You had receivers. It was by committee. You never knew
who night it was gonna be. So obviously, now when
you play the Chiefs and you're going in and you're studying,
you're going from game to game, you don't know who
night is gonna be. Tonight it was Hollywood Brown, last
week it was it might have been Jusual, it might
(04:24):
have been Taekwon Thornton, you know. So the fact that
they're also being able to establish the run, to balance
the offense out, to keep everything honest, especially defense because
you don't know what's coming. That's the great thing for
the Chiefs. And the fact that Patrick Mahomes playing so well,
he played a clean game as well, playing a clean
game and then being able to play defense on the
(04:44):
back end consistently against a great offense, a great creative offense.
That game, I'm sure that Dan Campbell is responsible for.
It is a really good game. Obviously, the Chiefs defense
and offense has been up and down, which is something
it's been some slippage, something that we talked about earlier
in the season and where we thought they really weren't
(05:05):
gonna be the same, especially coming out the gate, oh
and two and look we we we're in week six.
We're in week six and every yeah, everything looked completely
different than the conversations we had just.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
This week.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
So, I mean, what they've been able to do in
such a short amount of time and changing everything around
to everybody dropping balls, or that they're not playing defense
like they used to, or we were talking about Chris
Jones not not hustle, not having an effort, you know
on certain plays, to looking like they did tonight is
an unbelievable thing.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I think the thing is, Oho, is that, like you said,
each week, it's a different receiver. Tonight, they really didn't
use a whole lot of twy Cown Thornton. I didn't
really see him on the field a whole lot ojo tonight.
It was all about juju. Travis Kelson had his best
game receiving of the year. Hollywood Brown. We mentioned Hollywood
Xavier Worthy doing Xavier Worthy, but he didn't get a
whole lot of opportunities. I think if you go back
(06:04):
and look look at what they've done the past two weeks,
is that they've started off throwing the football in order
to run the football, and they stayed in front of
the sticks. This offense is predicated. As long as we
can stay and stay in thirty short thirdy manageable, Oh shoe,
Now we can run it or we can throw it.
If you go back and look, if I see what
they were on third down, as long as they were manageable,
(06:28):
they were good. Well, camp City was only four to ten,
but they knew, even Dan Campbell knew normally at home.
When they're clicking, you gotta get to thirty. You can't
beat this team. You can't beat this team in Arrowhead
if they're playing good football and you don't get to
at least thirty, or you need to take the ball away.
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You need to get a scoop and go, you know,
strip side. You need to get a tip or camera
or something. But if they play a clean game and
they're on top of their game, you're gonna have to
meet fire with fire. And you saw early on both
teams going forward on fourth down because they knew kicking
field goals weren't going to win them the game. Look,
last started Monday. They threw the ball early, short stuff,
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get your ball out of mahomes hand. Let's try to
slow this rush down. And now we can get back
to running. And I thought they did a good job.
I thought Andy did an unbelievable job of play calling tonight,
getting the ball out of Mahomes quick and quick. And
if you notice something on yoll And, we've seen this
the trans the transformation over the last three years. Mahomeboy
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ain't sitting back there, bitch, patting the ball. He'll take running.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
The only thing I would say, Mahon boys, sometimes you
got to know the journey over. Okay, now you keep
dropping that show on people. Now I'll tell you that
people Hey, people go hey, they they're gonna drop back
on you. Now, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
And you know, quarterbacks don't do a whole lot of
a lot of their shoulder work is banned. They not lifted,
so they don't got that that meet them. They're like,
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like most guys have, just be careful. But I like
the way they played tonight. They did a great job.
I really think the turning point of this ball game,
and it wasn't you know, is that arm and Ross
Saint Brown had some of the best hands in football.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
But on that fourth down, I.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Think that was a turn because they had great they
had great rhythm, they had great momentum. And you know
that because oh Jo, they're gonna get They were gonna
get it. At worst case the now you get nothing.
Now you get nothing out of that, and Kansas City
get the ball right out.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Of the gate. But uh, Detroit, Detroit didn't play bad.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I mean, when you play in Kansas City and they
play to the level of that they're playing tonight, they're
gonna be hard to beat. Now, it doesn't matter if
they're an arrowhead or they don't matter if they're coming
to your building.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That is still Patrick Mahome.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
And obviously we saw what we saw tonight from the
Chiefs is what we've seen consistently from the Lions. This
lionsly weekend and week weekend and week out. Nich just
happens to be one of those weeks where you're playing
the team. Now mean you're playing the other thirty one teams.
It's not that many teams. It's gonna come out there
and put thirty on you. There ain't too many. You got.
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You got the Chiefs, you got maybe the Packers, you
got maybe the Bucks that have the offense. Right, Lions, Yeah,
they have the offense to be able to kind of
points you putting up. You get where you have to
meet fire with fire. You have to take certain chances
in certain situations because you know, field goals is not
gonna get it done, because this team can score at will,
you know, throughout the majority of the game. So, I mean,
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you have games like this, you want to be as
perfect as possible, and the team that makes the fewest mistakes,
whether it be drops, whether it be interceptions, whether it
be turnos, whatever it may be, the team that makes
the fewest mistakes normally comes out on top. And that's
what we saw tonight.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I mean, there weren't a whole lot of penalties. The
Chiefs had no pendities, the Lions only had four for
thirty eight yards. So this was a barely clean game.
The refs let them play, which we like to see,
o Jo. We like when reffs let them play. But
we got to stop this notion. Every time the Chiefs win,
mister Reefs, you don't win that many games. Ain't no
way you can get You can get Travis Kelsey, mom,
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you can get his dad, you can get Taylor Swifted,
You get a lot of people ain't no way you
winning just because of the officials. And I get it.
It happens all the time. They used to say the
same thing with the Patriots. You used to say this,
and that's what happens. When you win a lot. People
have to have a reason, well why they win it,
instead of like, you know, they got good players, they
got a good system, they got a good scheme, they
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got great coaching. We have to have a reason why
instead of just looking at the product and looking at
the players. See what has happened over the last years
is that people like, well, they're catching up to Patrick Mahomes. Well,
you're measuring Patrick against this work. You measured everybody else
at their best, but you're measuring him at his worst.
So you telling me, if Patrick mahone plays his best,
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and another and every other quarterback plays their best, you
take that quarterback over, my home boy.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
If every quarterback, all thirty two quarterbacks and everybody's healthy,
if they played their absolute best and Patrick mahone plays
his absolute best, you're not taking another quarterback that's currently
playing in the NFL over Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
That's how good he's been. I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
He's been in a little starter for eight years, and
he's never he doesn't know what it's like not to
be in an AFC championship game.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
In five of those years, he's been in the super Bowl.
So when you look at it like that, and I
get it, some shall we get tired? Man?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
How many times don't Joe? Have you heard let somebody
else win? How many time you heard that? O Joe,
I'm tired of it with let somebody else win. It
don't work like that. When I put that kind of
time in, you gonna have to beat me, cause I'm
just not gonna stop winning. Even when you were a kid,
O Joe, I ain't gonna let you win. No, you
gotta beat me. I'm not gonna let you win. Look,
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I don't think there's anything wrong with the Lions. I
really don't. I think their offense is really good. They
miss missed a few opportunities, a couple of drops, but
I thought they did really well. They didn't get I
think they only got gave up one side tonight. They
were not as clean as they normally are. Over two
on fourth down. That's not the Lions. The Lions are
normally three or four on fourth downs. You know, cause
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they're gonna go for it. They're gonna put pressure on you.
You know, when you play the Lions, you gotta score point,
absolutely because every every position that they have is really
four downs. And you don't know. Now, you like the
fake like damn okay, four down, but they might fake
punch it, fake fake punt it.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And you see the play that they call.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
But see what they didn't realize is that the quarterback
starts up for the center he has to go, so
he has to come to a complete state.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
You know that I was confused on that call as well,
because most of the time I'm thinking, well, wait a minute, now,
I see the Dolphins, the other team do the same
thing all the time. Ty, you could come in motion
and he never comes to complete stop. The ball just snaps.
But I didn't. But he didn't start on that. I
didn't know that little clicker right there.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
So definitely, it's it's a lot. It's a lot of
little nuances. It's just like if two people are moving
at the same time once, you're gonna have to both
guys are gonna have to come to a complete stop,
or you're gonna have two guys in motion and that's
what they got. Ill you got illegal motion. But I think, look,
this was a great game tonight. Obviously, I would like
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to see it a little closer. I was hoping Detroit
could score, maybe get an on sidekick, make it really
really interesting. But give Kansas City. When they needed to
bow their backs, they bowed their backs, and uh, that's
what you want from a great team.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
When it's all said and done, Kansas.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
City's gonna be there in the Yeah, o Joe, you
know they get Rashid Rice back this week.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Ye. He show is coming. He show is coming back.
And the funny thing about it is not on as
he's coming back. But as well as they played so
far without him a week each week they've gotten better
and better. And like I said, it's by committee. You
don't know which receiver is going to have his day.
I don't like the fact that Taekwon type Taekwon Thornton
has such a intricate part of the offense.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It's all.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
You know, they know the package or whatever play they
might have had for him, it just wasn't the same.
I hate I hate when they play that game.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I hate that too, because he's played so well and
he's gaining confidence, and the last thing I want to
do is to do something to suppress his confidence because
he's looking around like, what what did I do this week?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Around me?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Why was I not? Because he scored a touchdown? Damn
Every week he's played, O Joe, and he's played extremely well.
Big catch after big catch, big play after big play.
Uh So it's very very unfortunate. Hopefully, excuse me, they
get into a situation where they get him where he
can come back around and make play for him again.
Oh Joe, the game that you within, Yeah, I told.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
You one thing about it, the one thing about please
please don't do that. Please don't do that. Ya don't
do that, because it didn't. It didn't look as good
as you did. It looked like a woman with no makeup.
That's that's what the game. It wasn't pretty. It wasn't
It looked like a woman with no makeup. It's nothing
to It was an ugly contest and y'all still lost.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You know what I'm saying. It was an ugly content
and you lost, Okay, And I told you what was
gonna happen. I told you, I told you what's gonna happen.
I said Oh yo, they're gonna be They're gonna be
on Justin fields like lions on a wheelbeast. I said,
you watch what did.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You see that?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
He was right? He's right. Did you see it? Stat line?
End of the game.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I saw his stat line fin to go over in
sta line. He was nine of seventeen for forty five
passing yards. When you take away the sack yards, he
was minus ten yards passing. That is the that's the
fewest pass yards in Jet's history. That's the fewest allowed
by a team since nineteen ninety eight. So it's been
twenty seven years since somebody has had a worse passing
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line than what Justin Bills had today. They sacked them
nine times for minus fifty five yards. They had eighty
two yards. Let chat in an NFL game, A team
had eighty two yards of total offense. In a sixty
minute NFL game. They were two of fifteen on third
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down fifty seven yards of total offense. No diskill me
tay that back. They had eighty two yards of total offense.
Uh nine sacks, fifteen hits, seven tackles for losses, four
passes defended, minus ten passing yards. This is a and
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I tweeted, Oyo, this is a new low even for
the Jets. Eighty two total yards, eighty two FN yards
in an NFL game, two of fifteen on third downs,
and allowed nine sacks. This is the worst offensive performance
I've seen in a while. Not sure if it can
be fixed. This was awful and it wasn't Joe, Ojo,
(16:48):
I don't think I'm bringing news. I'm gonna be honest
with Yojo. I don't know how well justin Field's process
is information. He freezes, he freezes. There are a couple
of times, Oh Joe, he's got to take the flat
right now.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Oh he's done something that he.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Doesn't Yes, I don't. I don't know what it is.
Oh Joe, he's got to get out. This isn't college.
In the NFL, you must throw people open.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Guys are not.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yes, sometimes they'll blow a coverage and you and the
guys wide open and you could throw it to him.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But nine eight and a.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Half times out of ten, you've got to throw guys
open in this league. Guys are just the guys are
too good, and I just don't know, and I'm watching them,
Oh Joe, and he freezes a lot of time It's like,
I'm like, bro and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
We we and we blame the Chicago and we said
it was ebra Flus and with Pittsburgh, well he didn't
get a chance. Now he has a chance. And I
don't know what it is, but I just know this,
he's not processing the information as fast as he needs to.
And to be great at that position, you else process
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information extremely fast because O Joe is happening. It's one
two three, hey you state.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
One yeah, two, you got you gotta get out of
the most definitely, especially with them not really black and
well for them being sacked nine times a day. See
from your point of view, so you're able to have
better contexts on why it looked the way it did.
You know, sit sweet and watching you know, live in
person is a little different. You just see everything happening
fast in person. Don't know why it's happening because there's
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no replay, there's nothing, there's nothing you can watch.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
That's why I don't like watching games in the state
because you look, I want to see.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
So I really couldn't understand. I didn't know what is
I didn't know it was as bad as it was
once I saw the stat lines at the end of
the game, I saw them obviously running for his life.
I saw there there wasn't much they were able to
do offensively. You know. I talked I talked a G.
I talked AG before the game. I was like, listen, congratulation,
everything you're doing. You know, let's hope you guys turn
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this thing around and getting the boys are playing and A,
I guess it's just it's just wasn't the week not
playing against that guy, Damn Broncos defense. And listen, you
said what they was gonna do and then went out
there and did everything you said it was gonna do.
And it's almost like it's almost like the Jets don't
even look like an NFL team. Damn there like they.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Do at times, they really don't. I'm like, did y'all practice?
Ain't no way. You either either one or two things.
You're not practicing or you're practicing to be just this
bad because normally people practice to be good.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You got to practice doing what they're doing. This is bad.
This is bad.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
And I hate it for a G because I know
AG personally, I know him well. He's a He's a
really good dude. But he could not have gotten off
to the worst start because these guys, for whatever reason,
whatever they're coaching is not resonating. It's not getting through
to them. Garrett Wilson was asked on the SA asked
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about his sideline exchange with Oh, Joe, let's take yeah,
let's take a listen to what he had to say.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
And at the end of the first half, when you
were walking off the field, is that the way the
driving way?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Really?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Like, you know, that stuff like that is just I
don't know, y'all. Y'all, I just didn't know exactly what
the plan was, and and once I figured it out,
you know, I was disappointed and I would just say that, so, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
How do you run a ply?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Is that what you mean?
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Yeah, I didn't know exactly like what the plan was.
I just I just thought we were once we you know,
converted the fourth down, I just thought we were going further,
you know, trying to make the play, and then obviously
we get to another fourth down and it's a tough
spot to be in. So, you know, in hindsight, I
get why they did that, but in the moment, I
was just like, man, I don't know, Yeah, m hm.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
He's speaking, he's speaking specifics. Huh, he's speaking, you know, Yes,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I didn't know what they was doing. I was like,
y'all just gonna let the time run out. Ain't nobody,
you're not gonna run to play, You're not the clock managements.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Well, and I'm like, well, letting the clock go all
the way down, Let's let's try to do something. Let's
let's do something. But obviously, you know he's frustrated. He's frustrated.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, it would be. The guy was hold up. The
guy has been.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
He was offensive rookie of the year with some very
marginal quarterbacks, and allegedly supposedly they had supposed to have
gotten better quarterbacks, but his stats aren't indicative of that.
So he's frustrated by that. Second of all, when you
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do what they did, it tells me you don't trust
your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yeah, oh you don't.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
That's the only reason you would do something like that,
because we've seen other teams with other quarterbacks with that
same amount of time try to run plays. And if
we got time, we're gonna call, we're gonna use our timeouts,
or we're gonna cheat to help the guys hope the
guys get out of bounds. But when you just let
that amount of time just run off the clock, no
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way in hell you cannot get vince me the.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Ump the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
You don't because that's the only reason you do a
time like that. We can't put our team. We can't
put our quarterback because the decision making is not where
it needs to be. Debate, be able to put him
in situations that might not be advantageous for him, because
he might make the wrong decision with the ball. We
can't trust him.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
To make matters worse.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Wilson suffered an injury to one of his knee ligaments,
and he'll have an in my eye upon returning to
New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Oh yo.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Look and when he did and he was laid with
the ball, he was all over the place. He had
him on the out and and and he throws it
behind him. He had another guy he had he would
have had the first down, and you know he ends
up hurting his back and so the gold down. They
don't even have Gary Wilson in the ball game.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I'm like, whatever could go wrong went wrong today for
their mom.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
It we're wrong with o yo.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Even the best defense attorney, Will it struck you at
some point in time. We don't have a winnable case
at some point in time, and it's coming sooner rather
than later. Hey, I don't know. I don't I don't
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know how much further I can stick my neck out
for Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Hey, I don't know, Oyo, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
In order to have a chance on in his league
is thirty two teams. In order to have a chance,
I don't care who's coaching. I don't care what you
have on office line. I don't care what you have
at the receiver. I don't care what you have on defense.
In order to have a chance in today's era of football,
you gotta have a quarterback. He doesn't have to be
the fastest, He didn't have to have the best arm.
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He just has to be consistent in his decision making.
He has to have exquisite anticipatory skills and being able
to play this play the position, being able to process
information in front of him, and being able to do
exactly what you ask him to make sure that offense
goes whatever that may be, whatever it may be.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I thought, I thought this.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
To be good for Justin Fields, especially with the signs
that he showed us with the Steers last year and
who into a winning record until Russell Wilson was given
the job by Mike Tomlin. Like, you know what if
Justin Fields gets his own team, I think he's gonna
be okay because he showed flashes of brilliance and what
he could do when he's quarterback number one. Now, your
quarterback number one, you ain't got nobody to worry about.
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You don't have nobody looking over your shoulder, so you
can actually play free. You can. Based on the play
calls and some of the things that they were doing,
it's like they don't even trust in the quarterback that
they have because they're not. The play calling isn't free.
We have to protect our quarterback from himself. So you
know what we want to have We're gonna let the
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clock round because we don't we don't even want to
put him in this situation. We have to make certain
decisions because it can go wrong.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
You're right, it's bad.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
It's bad, and I know, and and AG's like wants
to show support, But I don't know how much longer
that because at the end of the day, O Joe,
you got fifty other guys in that locker room now,
and I understand the lord team that you want to
have for your quarterback and you want to show support,
but you'll lose the locker room supporting one as opposed
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to the other guys, because they'll look like and they know,
O Joe, you've been in locker rooms for a long time.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I've been in locker rooms.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And and maybe Tyrod, maybe it's time to a maybe
you give it a couple of more games, you like, well, hey,
justin I'm sorry, We're gonna have to let let let
Tyrod have a go a.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Bit see see if you can get some things going.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Because this is this, this doesn't this does this is
this is terrible. Now. Look Lebronco defenses really good. That
front seven.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Oh they get at the quarterback and if you think
about it, they're rotational the a Bonito and Cooper. They'll
go a series and then the next they got a
whole different center looking lineup and they they got that.
They gotta they got a NASCAR package that they just
keep rotating them and they keep coming. They collapse you
from the outside and then you got big Allen collapse
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in the middle. So or and they're gonna run you
into somebody. If you run wide, Coop got you. If
you run to the other side, Benito got you. You
try to step up in the pocket, you got alan
collapse in the pocket. So they're really good, don't get
me wrong. Now, that's not a slop defense. And passertained
is legit. He is legit. He is hands down the better.
Ya Hey.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
He is smooth man.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
He is so smooth the way he can transition, and
he's long a his r like this along and.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
So he doesn't have to be that close to do
this or to do this.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, really good, we exchange.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
He's he's so fluid.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I mean for someone to be as tall as he
is and to be as fluid through the hips as
he is, because bro, he backfell and get out of
there in a hurry, and he could whip his hips
and go.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
But oh, y'all. Being raised on a farm, I was.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
In four h went to county fairs, went to a
goat show, a cow show, and I've seen it, and
I've been to the circus. I ain't never seen no
ish like what I saw with it yesterday.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
You done been around a lot of football too, You
ain't seen no legacy.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I have, but today to this today I'm talking about like,
look and I've been on I was like, damn, I'm
trying to think. I think maybe one other time that
I've actually been around and I saw hell I was
a part of it. Had I think you got to
go back to ninety two and the Eagles. The Eagles
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beat us. I think they beat us thirty to nothing.
I don't know if we had fifty yards of total offense. Yeah, no,
the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
No. I was with the Broncos game.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, but that was so that was what thirty three
years ago, and you gotta think about it, o Jo.
They said, the last time somebody had that fewer yards
of the passing game that was ninety eight. That was
twenty seven years ago, so you're talking about almost three decades.
This doesn't happen often, So people, I don't want you
to think that, oh man, that could No, this does
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not happen often, especially in today's game when it's catered
for the quarterback and the receivers because you can't punish
the quarterback and it's hard for you to touch the receivers. So,
with that being said, to get a performance like what
they got, today o JO eighty two yards of total.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Office and that's a testament of how good that defense
actually is, even with them being handicapped because of the rules.
That's just how good they are.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
And how bad the opposing team was.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
It's that too. Hey, listen, two things can be true
and you.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
They absolutely can be true. But I don't I don't
know where the Jets go. I do know, I do
know they take their ass home. And then you know,
that's a long that's a long ass flight to take
an ass whipping you.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
So even watch film or do you do you?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Hell no, I ain't showing that.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I was gonna say, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I'm putting that where they put Jimmy Hoffer. What the hell,
whoever the hell that is, I'm burying that take. Ain't
nobody gonna see that. As a matter of fact, I'm
gonna suit NFL films that they show it. You better
be glad that they got. Like remember they used to
have inside the NFL O shorty, they have the Thursday
night they have the game bore you, Yeah, and they
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show highlight from the game. Now show that, don't y'all
show it a d thing? But but this was this
was bad. This was bad, and and and you can lose.
You can lose. You can lose a locker room.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
If there's one thing about losing the locker room and
the coach having to make a very tough decision, you know, forquarterback,
for a quarterback that you can sit you at number one,
a quarterback that that that's been paid. Is the backup?
Is the backup? The answer? Because once once you make
a move in the middle of a season like this,
we're only in week six. Once you make a move
like this, you're making a movie.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I think they give them a couple more weeks. Soho.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But if they don't turn this thing around, I can
see such oho if we owe and we owe and
a oh and nine, oh and ten? So what we
try to I mean, what are we trying to do?
Because I already know a team and another team that's
in the Midwest that's trying to get the No. One pick,
that's Cleveland and we'll talking about them in a minute.
So are the Jets trying to get the number one pack?
Because you trying to get no more pigspense? I see
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where you go because that quarterback that you bring in
the tie rods gonna try to win games. I'm just
telling you, and I'm not saying Justin Fields isn't. So
you just tell just tell me what to do. Because
here's the thing. These other guys in the locker room,
they don't care that you're trying to do for the future.
I ain't trying to get my head split right now
while you building for the future. Damn your future. My
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future is right now because I might not even be
here when we get good.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Yeah, which is true, Which is true. And they're they're
gonna be some heads rolling now. They're gonna be some attitudes,
they're gonna be some frustrations, especially from five. You know,
Garrett Wilson ain't finna go for that. Garret's not finna
go five. You paid me like the receiver that I am.
Please use me as such. Please use me as such,
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Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Last week, Rico Ddell ran for over two hundred yards.
He knew the Cowboy was on the schedule. They ask him,
he said, tell them to buckle up. They didn't buckle up.
The Cowboys beat the Panthers. Excuse me. The Panthers beat
the Cowboys by the score of thirty to twenty seven.
Another game in which the Cowboys defense were exposed. Brian
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Schottenheimer stood up for his defensive coordinator, Matt Eberflus. The
Cowboys allowed two hundred and sixteen rushing yards, a season high,
led by former Cowboy rico'donald, who had one hundred and
eighty three yards on thirty carries. It marked the fourth
time the Cowboys have allowed at least one hundred and
forty four yards rushing this season. It's also the fourth
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time this season the Cowboys have allowed at least thirty points.
It was also the fourth game they have recorded one
or fewer sacks. Now, I remember O Joe, because you
know Michael couldn't stop the run, and you know a
dakins indispensable.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And Dakin's playing well, Kaka's playing well.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But Dak is under the same situation that your quarterback
was on the last year because his defense is so putrid.
If he punts the ball, when he gets it back,
if he had a lead, they're either gonna be tied
or they're gonna be closer than they were when he
punted the ball. Because his defense can't stop anybody. That
defense is atrocious. Now they keep blaming I don't know
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what it is. They fired Mike Nolan. They said it
was Mike Nolan. Now, some of those players were still
there with they had a zim it was them.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
He wasn't no good.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
They got Mike Ebberflues. So they've had three or four
different coordinators and a lot of those same players that
were there are still there now. I want to know,
oh Joy, at some point in time, we got to
start holding these players accountably because we quick to that coach,
that's coordinator, that this, that that.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
It's the coach, it's the scheme. But it's never it's
never the players, which is why I'm tired of hearing that,
and I'm trying to hear I'm tired of hearing that,
especially out of the five, one, three all the time.
But we'll get to that game in a minute. But
I said this before the season started on people laughed
at me when I said my surprise team I had two.
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I had to them was the Bears and the other
one was the Carolina Panthers. I told him, I want
you to watch out for the Panthers. I want to
want you to want you to watch out for Bryce Young,
watch out for the defense, and watch out for the court.
I mean, watch out for the receivers and what are
they doing? You saw they did to the panthers. I mean,
excuse me. You saw what they did to Atlanta Falcons
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not long ago. You saw what you did today? Young
buy young Bull. I don't I don't want to. I
don't want to butcher his last name running back? How
you said the right way?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
On?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Hey? Hey?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
People say Donelle, but I think they say I think.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
It's I'm gonna daddle or dad l.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I heard it both ways. I don't.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I don't listen to the broadcast. So chat, y'all have
to have to tell me how they said ash on
the broadcast.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
How do they say it? Do they say Dodelle or
they say Donald?
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You know, people don't play by their last name. Now, hey,
but listen, boy, he was on a mission. He was
on the mission.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It wasn't it wasn't nothing about him today? You know Rico, Rico?
You know Rico? What not?
Speaker 4 (35:01):
What?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Nothing cute about Rico? Today?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
He told you this, Oh Joe, this man called this shot.
This man said he was gonna Donna.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
You know, how do you know how difficult that is
to call your shot in the middle of the week
before the game and tell people to buckle up and
then actually go out there and do exactly what's gonna do,
which is the reason why you said you need to
buckle up. On the ground catching the air man Mandelle
was all over the place.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, dowdle but I thought that. But I was like, hey,
they say downie, But what O Joe? At some point,
at some point, Jerry has to understand his defense is built.
They're undersized. When you have an undersized defense, what does that.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Mean, O Joe?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
You're built to play with a lead because you want
to eliminate the one game because you're fourteen seventeen points up.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
They're not gonna run it. Now.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
You use those underside guys to stream up the stream
up field. Okay, what happens when you got to sit
your light ass in there and catch They ain't gotta
They ain't got nobody I heard with Jared. I'm very
disappointed in you because everything with you, you were yacking.
You win a game, you yacking, You had a tie
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ball game and they couldn't get him out the podium. Hell,
they thought it was a ring masters.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Hey her right up?
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Now, I care A lot of them put foots in you.
But now you Jared didn't speak to the media. Why
not because.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Oh no, absolutely not a talk.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, exactly front running Now oh oh hold up, you
remember Cole, You remember what was the last week?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
And then you see what they're talking about.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Now look at it, everything that went wrong. Well, you
know Michael wasn't good against the run. Okay, Michael gone,
what's your problem?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Now?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Well we didn't go that far when we had Michael. Okay,
how far you gonna go without him?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Now? Because you're two three and one.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Hey, listen, if if they're gonna have a shot now,
I know we didn't get to it yet, but offensively
we get that in a minute. But boy, boy dak
well he earning every bit of that's sixty. He earned it,
every bit of that's sixty or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Empty calories, don't yoe empty calories. If you go, if
you say, you know what, if you say, man, you
know what, I'm gonna get in shape. I'm I'm gonna
get in shape. I'm gonna eat healthy, bro, you go
eat twinking the ho hose, all the mills and empty calories.
They don't do nothing for you. They said that craving
but they add absolutely no nutrition. That's what those things
that you.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Got to understand. Listen, I'm doing my job. I'm doing
what I'm supposed to do. This is a team game,
right so yeah, you're supposed to win. Yeah, that that too.
But to give it need y'all to stop something over here.
I did not stop some over here.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I will say. To his credit though, o Jo, he
hasn't turned clean. He playing, so I will concede. But
but it's hard because he knows he has to be
perfect because my team not gonna stop anybody right now,
right hey, right now, we can't stop.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
A park car.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
We already so you know that going into the ball game,
I already know what I'm up against.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
That secondary look like you can't stop what part car.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I don't know if Diggs, I don't know if Diggs
is still hurt, he's still he's not the same. Digs
don't even look the same to me. I know dig
Digs better than this. I don't know is that injury
if he's one hundred percent recovery, because I know he's
you know, you know, they find him five hundred thousand
because he wasn't around or whatever's going on. But he
doesn't look. He was always a clure. He was always
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a gainser. And and and look now.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
He got in.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
He got incredible hands. He gets his hands on the ball,
he comes down with.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Most of the times when he does guess, he guessed
in the right way because you know what's coming. Because
he didn't look, he didn't look the same day.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
He ain't looked the same in a while. He ain't
looked the same in a while.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And and the defense, and because look they got those guys,
those and like I said, teams just gonna run the ball.
And now when you run the ball, you're gonna have
to drop the safety down. And now you don't really
have no.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Help over the dome at all.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I mean, if they ran the ball thirty eight times
for two sixteen, think it back. You did last in
total yards you like twenty fourth and rush yards allowed,
you probably didn't last the points were there? Points allowed
because they gave up forty to the packers. They gave
up thirty to day, they gave up what twenty four
they've probably average giving up twenty four. They're close to
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the bottom that they twenty eight thirty two in points
a lot.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Don't be nobody should be surprised if you're in the
chat tonight. I'm sure you're a faithful fan. You've been
and you've been watching for a very long time. I
told you before the season started, I told you about
them Panthers. Everybody laughed at me. Outside the Panthers fans,
everybody laughed at me. Oh oh, joh man. They sorry,
they did say that. I told you no, and I
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kept acting. Now I'm gonna remind you again. Hey, he
founding bitch, all right?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
But see, harr is the problem that I have. You
have You see.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
At some point in time now, you're gonna have to,
like when you get the ball, you gonna have to
keep putting points on the board. You can't be content
when you gotta lead. They put the ball, you gotta
go get points again. Because you know that was an
anomaly that your defense stopped them. What's the likelihood your
defense is gonna pitch are shut out the second hand?
I have one right, they gave up They gave up seven.
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They gave up ten points in the fourth quarter. More
time than not that they scored three in the fourth quarter,
So they scored ten and they gave up seventeen. Bryce
young seventeen or twenty seventeen or twenty five A buck
ninety nine, three touchdowns, one pick, sack, one time for
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five yards, thirty eight carries, two under sixteen yards. George
Pickens playing in the last off.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Well, you see, remember we talked about Remember I told
you what You're gonna have no issues out of out
of bruh. I told you that, not that.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Conversation, George.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
I know you're gonna see this why I love you.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
But I love you.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
I told you it's okay, It's okay.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
This is this is why your team is two three
and one.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
The Cowboys dead lasting total D, dead lasting past D,
dead last, and third down percentage second to the worst.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Points allowed, averaging thirty point seven points a game.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Wait, offensively, I'm sure they're the hiding way higher than that.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah, you ain't overcoming that because you because think about
what you got to think about O Joe. In order
for you to have it, they give it up thirty
point seven. So in that order for you to be winning,
that means you got to.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Score thirty point eight game. That's very game, Barry.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
They got the second best offense on Joe, fourth in points,
the fourth in points twenty nine point seven, So you
give up one more Ojo, see that we were close.
All I need to do is score one more point
than you, and that's what they average. Guess what they
scored twenty nine point seven. They give up thirty point seven.
So guess what if you score twenty nine, I score thirty.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
You know that situation right there. To give people a
better perspective, to give people a better context. It sounds
like another team. When my quarterback is healthy, we go
through that same issue. Because we've been going thirty eight
games with everybody is healthy. She got the team scoring
thirty two. We scored forty, they score fifty. You can't
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win for Luke.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, well you saw it last year. Y'all scored thirty eight.
Y'all lose forty one to thirty eight. Y'all scored thirty five,
they scored thirty eight.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Well, Jerry said Michael was the problem, Jerry.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
But Jared didn't say Jared. Jared didn't say anything today.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I want to know see front running now, see all
that you all out the window and the owner's box,
you all out. Oh, we're just having a good time
we have you know, the cowboy fans we traveled, the
cowboy fans.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
We just having a good old time. I ain't see it. Hey,
this is all this is what you saw.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
This is what you saw today, Ojo and and the
funny like the kids a school kids.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
When it's rated outside and you ain't got no refair, you.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
Gotta sit there and look out the window. You know,
something like this.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
How do you fix it?
Speaker 4 (44:16):
How do you fix that? Though? This is just not
a one player issue. Defensively, this is not.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
A one you gotta get. You gotta get better players.
You gotta get better players.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
You build your It's hard to get them now because
you got what you got. But you have a team.
You have a team that's built on playing with the lead. Well,
if you can't get the lead, o yo, you can't
just turn them loose, because if.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
You just run your ass up the field, they're gonna
just run where you will left.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
So you you catch it that they too small they
got they ain't got no bricks in the back pocket.
You can't drop anchor with them little light ass guys.
They got up there, man, they got guys back pockets
shaking hand. They're so small a matter.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Of fact, you know what I'm thinking about it if
I was Jerry, and listen, I'm putting my owner's hat on.
I'm putting my owner's hat. I need to get someone
the anchor that front, someone that I can build around,
and he could be that centerpiece for me.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Jared don't care about winning. Oo.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
We've been we've been determined that I'm.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Just hypothetically talking. Hey, Chad, tell me what you think
right now, Tennessee Titans. I'm going to get Jeffrey Simmons
the anchor my defense and build from that bill from
there out, build from the inside out, the start over.
What you think I'm going to get.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
You, Well, George Picking's gonna want a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
George Picking's gonna want it.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
Least and he's gonna get dk money because let me
show you.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Let me show you.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
What's gonna happen or what can happen Ceedee Lamb, who's
considered the top five quarter quarterback, who's considered the top
five receiver when we talk about receiving when he goes out,
let me show you what I do. I can pick
up right where you left. Let me if I get
the opp too, and he's I deserve that I should
have got when I was in you know where. I'm
not gonna bring I'm not gonna bring them up. But
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I can do he put a number two, I can
take you deep, or I can take a slam to
the house. Man, Stop playing, is what I do.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Hey, if he gets his hands on the ball and
he faced your ass up, good look getting that there,
getting his ass racket. He he reminds you of a
smaller version of t O. You remember how t O
ran a Because if To got the ball in his
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hands and he faced you up, you not you right
here in front of him, not getting him on the ground,
You better hope that. Hey, I'm gonna, hey, come on,
which were you go? I'm gonna try to hold him.
I come on, man, damn, I can't hold him here
forever you breathe help?
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Come? What the hell? Man?
Speaker 1 (46:54):
And that's how y'all, that's what they happened to a
big If he get the ball in his hands and
he hers around and square.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
Your hair up, and then he and you know it's funny,
he's faster then he looked because he ain't nobody.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
He played fast. He might not be fast. He might
have I don't even know what he he might have
ran for fo O Joe. But they're there are guys
that might not run fast but play fast. That's Jerry.
Jerry didn't run fast, but he played fast. Em It
didn't run fast, but he played fast. He has what
they call functional speed. He has football speed. You get
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him out there to test. But boy, man, that.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
I told, I told you before the season started, they
wouldn't you did.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
I am I'm glad because I got you.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Man, make this money, bro, you got you got an
opportunity to make two hundred million dollars to set your
family up for generations and generations.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
I mean that might be a George picking the fourth.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
They say, my great great granddad put me and put
me and put this family in position. Pro don't waste
that they don't don't don't, don't, don't mess up your
money with some foolishness. The best thing to happen. He
needed to get out of Pittsburgh. He needed to change
the scenery. And sometimes that's what that's what it takes, Ojoe.
Sometimes it takes a change of scenery. Sometimes it takes
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somebody him or her to get into a new relationship
in order for them to be their very best.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Absolutely, absolutely and I'm glad for him. But again, I know, I.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Know, I'm I'm happy, but the Cowboys I know it
was but Jared don't care about when Oyo, we've decided this.
You and I we talked about this in the years.
Jared cared more about money.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Yeah, we understand that too. But I'm thinking from a
defensive perspective with him being list in every category and
every statistic and every metric in every standard. When it
comes to football week six Novembers coming up deadline, you
never know if you were to make some some type
of uh hasty move, I would love to see them.
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It probably won't happen. I'm just thinking, as I'm putting
my gym hat on, I'm going to get Jeffrey Simmons,
you know, quality top three defense defensive tackle in the
NFL right right now to this day. Boom, I'm putting
you right there on a bill around you. I'm a
I'm a bill around you. Yeah, that's just me chat
what y'all think.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Jack, I know y'all they line back their linebackers are
very good. O Yo. Now their linebackers not very good.
The ain't nothing. They ain't got no plug.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
I mean look Sam with if they got guys trying
to rush off the edge. But I'm talking about like
like a a mic back.
Speaker 4 (49:40):
Hold on, understand, let me tell you something. You might
not like what they have right now because with that
Backer had, that Mike Backer had in front of them,
it's lighting ass. Now what happened? If you go get
that big ninety eight from goddamn over there in Tennessee
and you get to you get that, you get to
be able to roll.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Why I want to get why I want to give
him up to you? What you're gonna get me? Uh?
Wasn't the first round picks that you got from the Packers?
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Maybe we can Hey, listen, if I if we Jerry,
we can negotiate.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
But Jerry, but Jerry don't like that, oh Joe, he don't.
He don't want to give up. He likes Jerry likes
to develop players. So Jerry, Jerry, Jerry has gotten burned
uh uh in free agency. And so he's like that,
he's done with it. He's done with it. He's not
gonna he's gonna get guys that he gonna get the
Jadevian Clowney and and and and Clowney had. But Clowney
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is He's not gonna He's not gonna move the He's
not gonna move the needle.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
He's not the clowny of old.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
If we had that discussion, we don't think he ever
lived up to what we thought he was gonna be.
He was in the draft with Khalil Mack. Khalil Mack
turned out to be the better player. That's what what
what what he what Khalil Mack is, that's what we
thought Jadevian Clowney was gonna be based on what we
saw in college. You probably gotta go back to it
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and Dominican Sue to find a guy that raised hell
now the dominated like Jadavian Clowney.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Did his sophomore year.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
His junior year, he was just trying not to get hurt,
so he didn't play like he did his sophomore year.
But go back and look at it, Dominquin Soue last year,
he was like, Okay, that's the best player in the country. Now,
I forget who won the Heisman Trophy that year? Uh, Sam,
I think what the Sam Rafford. Sam Brafford won that
was the best and Domainkin Sue was the best player
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in the country that year. That's what we thought Jadavian
Clowney was gonna be. But we'll see what Jerry's gonna
do right now. I mean it would have been I've
been lovely to hear.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
From him, but.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Unfortunately we did not hear from him, O Joe. But
a team that we did hear from to day Aaron
Rodgers to as the Steelers continued their home dominance over
the Browns by the score of twenty three to nine.
Steelers seemingly o jo on cruise control. There four and
one in the division, Cleveland one in five, Baltimore one
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in five, I think one in five. Uh, Cincinnati has
lost what four straight?
Speaker 3 (52:11):
So now they're two and four Pittsburgh division to.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
Lose absolutely, and honestly, I don't see I don't see
him losing it. And I can say, yeah, I can
say this as as as much as I love my Bangals,
I don't see him losing it now. I saw some
some some something nice. We'll talk about later when we
get to the Bengals. But god damn, Aaron Rodgers got
them boys playing on all cyling zone, the special offense
playing on all cylinders. As good as that defense is
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over in Pittsburgh's with the names that they do have,
they start yelling and playing that good football the right
way that know we know, the way we know they
can play. They gonna be fine. As long as Aaron
Rodgers is playing like Aaron Rodgers is playing that they
always gonna be in contention and they're going to be
hard to beat. Forget right now, I ain't talking about
Week six. I'm talking about when real football starts after Thanksgiving,
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getting into the postseason, when it's cold and you got
to go over there to it ain't called heines Field
no more. Think when you got to take your field, Well,
you ain't gonna be able to throw the ball fifty
times a game. You're gonna have to put it on
the ground, and you got Cam Hayward. You got god
damn TJ walk coming off that God damn in and
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up down. I forgot young bull name, whether it's Smith
fifty six, fifty six, he got man stop playing man?
Yeah nice now then't then the back end really ain't
got no weakness.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
Now it's called across Sure Stadium now, no longer hines
Field Aftersure Stadium for sure.
Speaker 4 (53:50):
I'll tell you what I mean. No disrespect to acting. Sure,
I like to say Heines Field because that's where I
play that.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
I got that reson, I played it, play the hidest field,
and I played the three Rivers.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
The old three.
Speaker 4 (54:02):
They had the carpet. They had the carpet.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, stel yeah, and the state of stadium
would be bouncing. I mean you, I mean you can
literally see if it's bouncing up and down.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
They started rocking.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
The Browns offense failed to a clip seventeen points for
the eleventh straight game. Dylan Gabriel uh twenty nine and
fifty two, two hundred and twenty one yards, six sacks,
six times. How do you so you mean to tell
me your guy, You're gonna let your guy and it's
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set to start. You gonna let him throw the ball
fifty two times against that defense on the road.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
Hard to run on the Steelers, Huh, it's hard. It's
hard to run on the Steelers. So the other, the
only other viable option is is you gotta throw it.
And when you think about Dylan Gabriel, when you watch
him in the games where he's had success, anything outside
inside the numbers, inside the hashes, he's really good. It's
nothing nothing really long. You know sometime you get some
some short dig some some dig.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
If you know that, guess who else knows that that
he's good inside the numbers on short stuff?
Speaker 3 (55:08):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, that's what thanks. Oh think about it.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
You threw the ball fifty two times and you only
had two and twenty one yards. Hey, you missed twenty
three attempts.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Bro Cleveland. If y'all try to get the number one pick,
just say that.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
Whoa No they not no, no, no, they wanted number one
pick for what they get? What quarterback? Because they's nothing
we don't seen on Saturday that's willing to wait for.
Absolutely not no they.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
I guess they want that that that pass rushing number
six from Miami and pair him with Miles Garrett. I
don't know, maybe trade it for some more players.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
I like you, I see whe you're going like. I
like what you think. I like what you're putting up.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Hey, Miles Garrett said, losing the same way. It's frustrated, Miles.
This is what you signed up for. You took the money.
I ain't got no problem with that, o Jo, I
have no problem with that. But Miles Garant knew they
were not going to win. They really haven't won since
he been there, They've gotten worse, So you can't say
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it gets old. When you took the money, you said
you wanted a chance to win. They dangle forty million
dollars per year, gave you one hundred plus one hundred
and five hundred.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Ten million, fully guaranteed. You took the money.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
So now you can't complain because you knew what made
you trust them that they were gonna be able to
do something in one to two years. They haven't been
able to do in your ten years since you've been there.
Speaker 4 (56:43):
You're talking, but you know, you know that wasn't it.
You know, you know, you know why. There was no
guaranteed money left.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
So I got I know, I know, I got it.
That's what I say. Say.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
Look, he ain't got no guaranteed money. He won't guaranteed money.
He gonna say, I won't out, Really he won't guarantee money.
I get that, O jo, I get it. I do
and chat. I don't want y'all to think I don't understand,
but don't complain. When you said you said you wanted
a chance to win, you said you wanted to compete.
You knew with the exception of that one year, You
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guys haven't been able to compete, and you trust this
organization to build, to build pieces around you and do
the right thing.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
By getting a quarterback. You trusted them.
Speaker 4 (57:26):
And they already hope they have a bad history at
that specific position, the one position you need to be
able to compete, to be able to contend. This The
identity for the Cleveland Browns has always been their defense.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
It has been.
Speaker 4 (57:44):
The hard part has been finding quarterback that is good,
not great, just good enough to consistently not only keep
you in games, but win games when in certain situations,
especially games that are close. You just haven't you go
through straight a string of maybe four weeks, five weeks
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of really good I'm about consistently throughout a season, right,
especially when it matters most. You haven't been able to
find that.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
No, he's and I'm I'm and I'm supposed to trust
you that you're going to find that. But but what
he's finding out, O Joe, is that money really can't
buy happiness when you are a competitor and you want
to win and to go out there and beat Yet,
guess what that direct deposit is gonna hit every Monday,
or if you get paid on the first and fifteen,
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that deposit is gonna hit.
Speaker 3 (58:38):
But them losses, they hurt.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
I guarantee you when you're out there taking an l
A I have number one time, like man, that check
gonna be in, that chick gonna be No, I'm going
to get my check, so I ain't. I just got
direct deposited in twenty sixteen. But anyway, I never thought
that they I'm gonna go upstairs tomorrow get that pay
checking like that. No, we don't when them l start
that add up on Yo, I've been lose, lost six
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games in the row, seven games in a row. Band,
Please you out there practicing and then guess what. Guess
what was about to happen on Joe, tell them what's
gonna happen in Cleveland? That temperature about to draw cold.
It's gonna get cold. And guess what you get cold?
Now you're out there practicing in the twenty degree and
then come Sunday you practice, you playing in twenty degrees
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fifteen ten and you catching al after al after al
after al.
Speaker 3 (59:31):
And yeah, out y'all.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
Dylan Gabriel completed four passes over ten yards in the air. Today,
he threw the ball fifty two times, but Kevin Stefanski
kept him in the game for the entire as I.
Speaker 4 (59:43):
Told you, they don't. They don't. You see how they
protect justin fields when when they're going to the end
of the half because of the decision making, we don't
know what he's gonna do with the ball. So how
do you hide the quarterback weaknesses whatever weaknesses he may
have that we can't see. Now, you and I know
he can't throw outside the numbers. He can't be on
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the left hand and throw atr comeback on the right side.
Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Of the Oh hell no, the.
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Type of quarterback, it will come back the other way
for a touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
So you have to call plays that are predicated to
his strengths. His strengths are throwing intermediate and in short routes.
So therefore you all plays based on what he's able
to do extremely well. Now that's no knock on him,
that's no knock on him. So what we ask of you,
that's all what we're asking you based on what you
can do well for us offensively. That's what we're gonna
(01:00:37):
do because that's what you provide for us as a quarterback. Now,
that limits your playbook.
Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
It limits what you can call or limits some of
the things you like to do, as opposed to other
quarterbacks that have the arm strength or the other or
the powers to be able to open up the playbook
and do and do more.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
That's what you have to do. So, I mean I
didn't want to say it like that. I thought everyone
else could see that and understood that, especially when you
when you watch him play some of the some of
the players at the call. Now some some frustrations might
might arise with maybe may Jerry Judy who.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Jerry Judy had thirteen targets called five passes, Fanning Jr.
Had ten targets caught seven and Joeku had six caught three.
Damn oh, Joe, I had a more DK four catches
man uh uh. He had a go ball and Roger
and the wind called it it brought it, brought it back.
Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
I mean he was like he was like five yards
in the draft.
Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Hold on, wait, he caught he caught one deep ball
on that that stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
He caught it. The ball that was later but he
ended up.
Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
But he had one that had been that had been
a to that was a show enough touchdown and Rogers
put it up, and I guess the wind called it
because Rogers he turned abut and looked up.
Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Like, damn, I ain't know. I ain't know it was
like that.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
But uh, oh, Joe, I don't I don't know what
Cleveland's doing. I don't know if they're trying to get that,
they're trying to get the number one.
Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Pick, because you're gonna have to fight just there. This
is This is no knock and chat. Y'all know because
y'all watch college football. There is nothing out there that
is glaring where it's like where teams are clamoring for
those who were in situations like the Browns or let's
say like the Cowboy defensively where you know what, we
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got to have him. We got to have him, so
we're gonna do it's necessary to make sure we're in
position to be able to get him. It's nobody like
that right now, and nobody popping out on film. There
might be some off of the attackle or some defensive
tackles that we don't know about, but the skill position
or quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
They need to go get that. Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
They need to trade the two draft pick they got
this year and to go out there and get that
Uh that guy.
Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
From Miami band Jr.
Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
Hey a night.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
You need to hell raising like that. Those are the
type of guys that change the future, that change your fortunes.
That's what they need to eat nice hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
But uh, I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I don't like Dylan Gabriel throwing and letting Dylan Gabral
throw the ball fifty two times.
Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Bro. He threw four passes and had ten yards of
air distance.
Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
He completed four passes over ten yards in the air
of the day, so everything is checked down.
Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
He dinking and dunkin and checking it down.
Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Now you know the digging and dunkin work. It can work,
depending on you can be efficient digging and duncan. But
at some point, once some boys say you know what
we're coming up, we can we go.
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
You gotta be able to put the ball over their head, though, Joe.
At some point in time, you gotta put the man.
You gotta put it. You gotta put somebody on your feet.
You gotta put fit. You gotta put fit.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
You gotta put oh, Joe.
Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
If I don't fit, Bro, I'm sitting on every I
used to.
Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Play the Raiders and the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
You had to throw in the in the first ten players,
you had to throw a go ball or them more
folds gonna.
Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Sit right there.
Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
On everything when you played the Raiders, when you played
had a t MAC and they had Albert Lewis. So
we went over there and they had Dale Card in
Kansas City and they had a.
Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
What's I forget the guy's name. Lord, have mercy.
Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
If you did not move them, if you did not
throw a go ball, even it's like, look, we ain't
trying to complete it, but you gotta put fear on them,
because boy, they ain't moving.
Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
They're not moving. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
I First of all, y'all, we know y'all not gonna
throw it deep. You know why we know y'all not
gonna throw it deep because we know y'all don't have
a really offensive line that can hold up to throw it.
And then second of all, if you do throw it deep,
guess what, O Joe, you ain't right, no running game?
So what am I stepping up to stop and run for?
So with that being said, now we squatting on everything.
(01:05:05):
Prove to me I'm wrong?
Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
He yeh Darien junkins Junkins is hurt.
Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Yep uh.
Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
He had twelve carries for thirty six yards. He might
have got hurt in the game. I was, you know,
I was back. I was back and forth. Man, It's
it's hard for me to stay It's hard for me
to stay interested in that, right there, Oh Joe, it's hard.
Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
You know. I watched the seriesson, I'm like, bro, bro,
what is this? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
I thought they would have lead. I thought they would
have leaned on him a little bit more so. I thought, well,
maybe maybe he's hurt, maybe something's wrong with him. But
if your quarterback isn't as good, or you're not able
to do some of the things you want to do
to make sure you're able to be competitive, you want
to hide him by running the ball a little bit more.
(01:05:52):
You want to you want to put that load and
that onus, on that on that on your running back
to be able to get things going or to make
it easier. Forget balance. You got to be a run
that You got to be a run heavy team first.
You got to be.
Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
I ain't trying to do no balance. You ain't got
no balance for that, right there? I mean Jayleen Ramsy
had two sacks. Jayleen ramsays, Jayleen ramsay, I'm trying to
give me ten sacks of a corner. Uh Hebrie I
had uh two sacks. Hot Smith had had a half
a sack. Teacher had a half a sack. So they
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have six sacks sotals, six tacks, six sacks total. But
I don't know what Cleveland trying to do. But whatever it.
Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
Is, you know, you know what, it's almost unfair. It's
almost unfair to have to judge Gabriel against that damn defense.
It's almost unfair. I know it's your division opponent, but hell,
it ain't that many people that look good against the
goddamn Steelers and the quarterbacks that do you know they
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in conversations of the epper echelon quarterbacks when they come
to being able to dismantle that damn defense
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