Nightcap - Hour 1: Warriors beat Rockets on the road In G7, Pacers shock Cavs on the road in Game 1!

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Joe Johnson react to the Stephen Curry & the Golden State Warriors going on the road to beat Jalen green & the Houston Rockets in game 7 to advance to the 2nd round, the Indiana Pacers go on the road to beat Cleveland Cavaliers in game 1 & we look at the preview of Golden State Warriors vs the Minnesota Timberwolves!

01:46 - Introduction
04:00 - Rockets v Warriors
28:27 - Pacers v Cavs
46:51 - Spida
55:47 - Ant-Man on the Warriors

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to another episode of Nightcap.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Thank you guys for joining us.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
As the Golden State Warriors, the number seven seed take
down the number two seed Houston Rockets by score of
one to three to eighty nine. They go on the road,
just like they did last time they went and won
a championship. They went on the road beat Sacramento and Sacramento.
Steph Curry had fifty three. It wasn't Steph this time,
it was Bluddy Hill, but he got great contribution from Draymond,

(00:43):
Jimmy Butler, and Steph caught fired in the fourth quarter
and they win going away one o three to eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
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co host The Liberty City Legend, The Bengal Ring of Fame,
Arnoy a pro bowler, an all pro that's Chad Oh
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The Warriors go on the road to Houston and win

(02:40):
a game seven thanks to Buddy Hill's thirty three points.
Whoever fifteen shooting nine of eleven from three, got twenty
points from Jimmy Butler, he got twenty eight and eight
from Jimmy, he got.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Sixteen six well, sixteen six.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
And five from Draymond, and he got twenty two, ten
and seven from Steph.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
But Buddy Hill was what put them on over the top.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
And you know when you go on the road, Joe
and you get another that Chip said, and he does
more than what you expect, You're probably gonna win that
game a less the star. You know, one of your
big guns just totally missfire. But they got thirty three.
And you see Buddy had it going early twelve or
fifteen nine of eleven, thirty three big points, he's plus seventeen.

(03:21):
And then Steph caught fired that second half of mainland.
The fourth he had twenty two, ten and seven, Jimmy
Butler with Jimmy Butler twenty eight and seven and Draymond
was sixteen six and five. What did you like about
what you saw from Golden State? Joe Man go to State.
They showed that championship pedigree on kan Ho Show. This
was about game seven on the road, playing in the

(03:44):
hostile environment, understanding what's the state and Steph pretty much
he struggled pretty much the first half.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
But yeah he did.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I thought Draymond got him off to a decent start
because he hit two threes in that first quarter and
got him a lay up, so they kind of got
him going. I feel like points you get from him
for real, them like that's like a bonner, It's a bonus.
I was thinking, like, Okay, Draymond might win this game
for him tonight.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
If he just come out twenty two points. I said,
he might win his game for him to night.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
But as the time goes, Buddy hill Man, he changed
the whole game. The Man didn't even score last game, Ojo. Yeah,
the man got great cardio in. The man was at
home in Golden State, didn't score and he come on
the road, gave twenty two points in the first half,
bro man, those are the type of guys that that

(04:33):
we talk about the others that gotta win you games.
And he stepped up tonight in this Game seven and
in a must win situation and game his best performance.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah. Yeah, he scored as Joe said, o Jo, he scored.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Zero points the last game. The game before that, he
only had four points too. He hadn't been he hadn't
done it much. He didn't do much. In Game five
to six, he tied the record for the most three
pointers of the game staff and in the NBA history
Buddy Hill three are three point field goals.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
In the first half, he had six, the Rockets had two.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I thought the Rockets I didn't like their body language
early on in the game seven. They're gonna let you play.
They let you play in the playoffs to begin with.
They're definitely gonna let you play. And you look at
Shinghu's body language when they didn't throwing the ball, He's
slopping his shoulders. I didn't like the body language from
the jump missing shots and he had some very makeup
with shots. I mean he point blank, point blank range
and he was misfiring. So that's you, bro, You can't

(05:28):
get mad because look, you make it say much. You
got Magic Johnson on your team, and he gonna see
you every time you pop open.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
It's not like that. Fred.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
You know, he got caught fire a little bit in
the first in the second half, mainly the fourth quarter,
but he didn't really do a whole lot of heat. Yeah,
when they win, he's like twenty four to twenty five,
you know what I'm saying. Joe, he getting that three
point ball guard early. But they got eight points from
Dylan Brooks. They got eight points from Jalen Green. Jalen
Green is too talented to have games like this, and

(05:57):
he's he's been doing this, and I oh, Joe, I
know you try me into this, and I know you
like him because he's even miss le talented.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, but Joe, far.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Too many games in these games, and they had seven games.
I saw far too many fours and eights from Dreyleen Green.
Go ahead, o Joe and listen. I enjoyed the game.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
I think that I think the Rockers did a very
good job of trapping stuff, playing playing consistent defense on him,
which is why I.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Think he struggled a little bit in the first half.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Obviously if you look at the points he finished with
twenty two, but he kind of struggled the first the
first half of the game. You need a game like
this from Buddy Hill. I think Buddy Hill actually saved
the day. Uh, listen to words Big three. They combined
for fifty eight points, twenty four rebounds, twenty assists, and
they did a little bit of everything.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Draymond did what he did. You knew jimm Jimmy Butler's
gonna show up.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
But for Steph to have a game like he did,
I thought he was gonna come out and go for
forty or fifty tonight. That's what I thought he was
gonna do based on his performance last time. But Buddy
Hill say today man like like you said he was nine.
If you let him from behind the arc, he had
thirty three, and I think he's the reason they won.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
They won Game seven. Obviously the Rockers.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
The Rockets didn't help themselves, but they were the way
they played, in their body language they had. They had
a decent, decent output and performance from most of their players,
but it wasn't enough. I think a game like tonight
you would have need Jalen Green to step up and
be the player that I think and other people know
he can be, but such low output offensively, it's not
gonna bean many game.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Siblings. Hey, they would go ahead, Joe.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
But to kind of piggyback on what you're saying about
Jalen green Man, it's like when you watch the games,
it's like, if it's not a three pointer, it's something
that's forced at the basket. Right, Yeah, where's the MIDI
is at? Where's the mid range game at? Like we
have to have that, man, I know analytics and kind
of took it out the game, But in the playoff,
the game slows down. There's not as many possessions only

(07:43):
that you would have during the regular season, so you
have to value those possessions and you want to get
great shots every time down the floor. So I think
for me, it's just like him getting in the lab,
man and really.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Working on this mid post.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
You know, it's mid range game to the point of
where you can give the ball and he can he
can get you a bucket or he can raise up
and shoot that many. Bro, Like you can't just live
and die from the three. Then think, Okay, my three
ball ain't work, and let me force something to the cup.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Because now you're all out of rhythm.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I think you gotta have a mid range game, and
it's just a lost art in today's game. Yeah, if
you look at what Golden State was prepared for that trap.
If you notice they hit the they hit, they hit
the mid they swung the ball wide over three to
Buddy Hill, or they come to pick and roll and
then you got Buddy Hill wide over for the for
the three, you got Jimmy Butler, you got this guy.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
So they were prepared this time.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I thought for me, I thought they went to the
big line up a little bit too soon. They went
with Shungoon and the Adams a little bit too soon,
and they were ready for this time of rod. It
did is surprise him, right, and and that's what and
that's what happens. It's kind of like, uh, who that
the Clippers, You remember Clippers went They inserted Nicholas Betunga
and it caught. It caught the Nuggets offt guard. When
they tried to go to another switch line up. Nugget

(08:58):
say we got something for y'all as this time running
back and bring it. Oh okay, we got something for you.
I thought that think about it. They go on the
road in a hostile environment and they only turn the
ball over it seven times, So they value the ball
because you know, you have to value every possession matters,
because as Joe said, you're not gonna get as many
as you normally.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
It's not gonna be as up and down.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
So you would have to get a lot of your
points in the half courset because teams are not gonna
let you run out and get fifty you know, fifty
transit you know, thirty four transition points. It's not gonna happen.
I thought Golden State did a great job of swinging
the ball. You look at Draymond has five assists, Jimmy
Butler has seven assists. Steph has seven assists. Okay, so

(09:40):
everybody's making an extra pass. Everybody's doing what they're supposed
to do.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
I can live with that because they didn't get anything
from the bench. And it's not like Houston got a
whole lot from their bench. Go to State bench gave
him three point. Kabal Looti had a field goal at
a free throw, but Jabari Smith, Easton and Steven Adams
they only gave you eleven points. That's not enough, especially
when you get the output that you got from Buddy
Buddy Hill, Steph Curry and a Jimmy. They gave me

(10:06):
seventy two points. Yeah, I think no swimmer sept that
makes seventy five points. Yes, well your starters don't get
nowhere near that, so now your bitch is gonna have
to come in and give you production. I think the
only guy that for me that I was really impressed
with the Knight from the Rockets with arm and Thompson.
It looked like he came to play until he tweaked
that calf and he kind of wasn't the same guy,

(10:28):
and that you know, got had that lay up and
he got filed. But he was twenty four to nine,
three assists, three a steal of a block. But the
rest of the guys, I didn't like their body language.
From from the jump Joe, Oh Joe, I didn't like
their body language. I saw a lot of this, a
lot of that, And that's that's not what you need
in a game seven. You need everybody to be upbeating. Bro,

(10:49):
what you thought you're gonna make your first fourteen shots
right right right? It's tough, man, it's tough. I thought
I loved Thompson. I love his game. I love the
energy and effort that he played with this whole entire
series attacking and the defense that he played on Steph Curry.
But for me, man, I think Steph was probably the
biggest key tonight. If y'all, if y'all really watched that

(11:11):
first half, watch how he gave himself up and was
setting picks for Buddy Hill and Buddy here was getting
wide open shots. They kind of got rhythm. Uh So
that's why I say that championship pedigree. It came through
in Game seven for them. It's unfortunately for the Rockets
there a young team, but I think this is this
is probably good for them to kind of go through this.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Okay Ojo, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
You know they gotta get they gotta get a guy
I know they got. They gotta get a guy Joe
that they can give the ball to. They don't have
anybody that they can give the ball to. It they
go get me a baby. That's why I'm telling That's
why I'm saying, Jalen Green has to develop into that guy.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Okay Ojo. That's who he told to be here. See,
I told you, I told you. NK I said that
the other night.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
I said, Jayden Green, based on what I've based on
what I've seen, the potential that he has young Bull
getting the lab and add some more to the toolbox, he.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Gonna be all right.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I know a guy that could do that, right now,
Kevin Durant, Yeah, go get it. If you got draft,
if you got draft capital, I'll package. Hey, I'll package
to have to have Shingoon and to have Thompson and
to have k d I'm good.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I'll package Jayalen Green. I let Jaalen Green go dah
u Kreen. Let the man develop. You at Joe, what
would you do? Joe? Now right now you're talking about winning?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, I'm doing that too, Okay, oh Joe, Okay, okay,
you know back in the day then okay, you got
a three projection.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Here's here's our pot chart. And no, no, no, no, no,
no no no.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I'm saying that because if we're looking at it from
that standpoint, right, no, I want guys who can affect
the game if they're not scoring. And uh, you still
got Dylan Brooks who's gonna affect the game. He don't
have to score a lot, but you know he's gonna
have he's gonna have some decent nights. And then you
got Thompson who you know offensively whatever, he you know.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
He he's gonna he's gonna be a project.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
And I think the sky's the limit for him as
far as potential and what he could be, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
And you're talking about adding KD to that man?

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, yeah, a KD with Shingoon, you got you got
a guy that's down on the block that can rebound,
he can run your offense.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
KD.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
He plays without the ball, but in a tough situation,
you can give the ball. He can put his back
to the basket and you give him the ball and
he can shoot that turnaround. They don't have a guy
right now. They're by committee and there are a lot
of teams like that. There's nothing wrong with that. But
when you run up with against the team and they
have that guy that they can go give him the
ball and say go get me a bucket, I just

(13:40):
like I said, I think I think that's what the
Rockets need.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I mean, this was a two seed.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I mean, but I think the Warriors were favorite with
the Warriors was favored to win this series.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
They're the seventh seed. The Rockets are the two seed.
And there's why.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Guys that have been in Game seven, Draymond, Jimmy Butler,
Steph Curry, so they know what it's like to be
in that moment.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
These guys, these guys are young. They don't know what
that was like.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, even though you're at home, you don't understand it's
the finality of this and that moment. You look at
the how free they were and how they will they played,
and then you look at the guys. I thought they
were tight, and they showed in their body language early,
because when you tight, you get frustrated at the least
thing man throw at the ball. Damn, bros, were just
two minutes at the game. We got forty six more

(14:21):
minutes to go. I forget it to you. And unless
you know how important this game was. Steph Curry played
forty six minutes, Jimmy Butler played forty five minutes, Draymond
played forty minutes. Kazemski played for forty minutes. Steph don't
normally play though forty six minutes. They understood the moment.
They understood the moment, and they took advantage of a

(14:44):
young team, a young inexperienced team, and they knew it
from the junk they were yes, and they came out
and showed why in game one, and you know, they
had their struggles. But I can't understand how the Rockets
played so great like that in game six, in game
five and six and then they they lose. I'm like,
I just knew they was gonna come out with the
energy and effort. Then like, okay, we go, we got

(15:05):
a chance.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, they look completely different.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
You know what happens sometimes, Joe, I think teams fall
in love with this game seven.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Then we got it on our home court.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
You relax, okay, but A because the long, the longer
that business team can keep that crowd suppressed. Yeah, the
harder is youth for you to use momentum to get
back into the ball game.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
We saw that with Indiana with the Knicks last year.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah yeah, so you A you better, you better cool,
You better aid give this fans something to cheer about,
keep them on their feet. You fall, you you end
up dropping down by thirteen, You dropped down by fourteen, fifteen.
What I'm cheering for? You make a basket? You're still
twelve at yeah? Right right, I've been there. I know

(15:48):
the feeling I'm talking about. Steph Curry. Yeah my bag.
Go ahead, go ahead, Joe, go ahead. I was gonna say.
Steph Curry and Draymond are the first pair of teammates
in NBA history with ten five and five and two blocks.
In the same game seven, Stephan the Warriors eliminated the
Rockets again. Houston has failed to beat Golden State in
the playoffs for the fifth time since twenty fifteen.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
The Warriors eliminated the Rockets in.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, and twenty five.
They closed out the last three of those in Houston
in Game seven and twenty eighteen. They closed them out
in Game six and twenty nineteen, Game seven and twenty
twenty five. A decade straight of owning a franchise of
city and a fan base, and you know, we talked

(16:32):
you went over here last night some of those game
sevens and the game six is who's on that team?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
O Joe? We talked about last night. Remember how he
didn't show up last night for the Clippers. Oh he's
about the beer.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Oh oh yeah, yeah, the beer. Yeah yeah, I mean listen, listen.
He didn't have a good game scoring, but young bulls facility.
He was facilitating that thing, Like they need.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
More than that because the only guy you're gonna get
points from is Kawhi that you can count on.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
You can Hell, what about the other thing? What about
that game? What was that game? Six?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
He facilitated and scored. He gave you a level, He
gave you a level of six, and he still gave.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
You twenty four poards.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
I mean, listen, I think I think, especially last night's
game for the Clippers, I think James has to come
in with a mindset instead of getting everybody else actlivemated it,
allowing them to get find their rhythm.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
He got to be aggressive. He got to be he
got to be aggressive.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
But being the point guard, obviously, for your first order
of business is to get everybody else going and then
you know what, I can get mine on my own
when I need to.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
He's not one of those he's but see you're thinking
of a prototypical point guard. He's a scoring point guard.
That's what a two point guard to get everybody involved.
Don't average thirty seven of them a game in a
fourth season. You don't have thirty five straight games of
thirty plus points. If you ain't a prototypical Maggie Johnson,
John Starknan Jason Kidd type point guard, that's not what

(17:59):
James kneas, That's not what he's ever been. He's he's
one of the greatest ISO players that we've had, that
we've seen in this game. His game is predicated on scoring. Yes,
he can get triple doubles. He has a sixty point
triple double. Yes, But James Harden can put the ball
in the basket as good as anybody. And that's what

(18:20):
they needed from him last night, and they didn't get it.
And so that's what got them to get an opportunity
to go back to the Nuggets because he and Quiet
gave the scord and he facilitated. Plus you Pitcher put
in normal Powell in there. That got He played sensational
in Game six. But I think the thing is, but
we've seen far too many games O Joe like this

(18:41):
from James in a game seven. Remember what happened in
Philly when the Celtics came in and he had like
nine points for the Oh Oh in.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Has remember the seventy six Ers Game seven loss. He
had played forty one. He had five. He had nine points,
seven assists, six rebound, five turnovers in forty one minutes
on three and eleven twenty twenty four the Clippers, he
finished with sixteen points, seven rebounds on five or sixteen
shooting forty three minutes in a loss to Dallas Mavericks
in game six in the first round the Brooklyn Nets

(19:13):
twenty twenty one, he was five or seventeen from the field,
two or twelve from the three. In the game seven loss,
he did have twenty two points, but it took him
seventeen shots to get it. He had fourteen points six
twenty fifteen in that loss. Is that the one he said?
The NBA record for turnovers? He had twelve turnovers on
two of eleven shooting from the floor, fourteen points six

(19:34):
he had guess the warrior NBA record?

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Oh, chowing turnovers?

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, twenty seventeen Rockets finished with the game seven. Oh,
that's when they didn't play. No, Although that's what is
that when they didn't play. Kawhi Kawhy did playing that game. Remember,
Kawhi was hurting. He didn't play and they got beat
by like thirty. Hard had ten points, seven and said,
six turnovers on two of eleven shooting. It's and that's

(19:57):
the thing though, to nine, he's an MVP. Yeah, he's
a seventy seventy five or the seventy five greatest players
to ever played in the NBA. But it's moments like this,
o Jo, that really separate. You go back and look
at the greats, and it's moments like this, right, the Jordan's,
the Kobe's, the Shacks, the lebron the Birds, the Magics, this,

(20:21):
this Game seven, all the chips you, hey, I'm going
all in, Ojo, what you got, I'm going all into
all right? Yeah, card go money hunt. And he seemed
it seemed to me that he got worn down even
when you even with you running them numbers down, it's like, uh,
you know in a series, you know the opposing team,

(20:43):
they job is obviously to oppose. They will and your
best player or one of your best players, you want
to try to ram him down throughout the series. Are
you gonna really stop him? Not really, You just trying
to hope to contain him. And it seems like James
when he gets to those late game seven grueling series,
like even.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Though the night he looked out of gas.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
He looked like he didn't have that pomp, He didn't
have that burst because I was thinking, yeah, man, the
Clippers need James to come through with about twenty five
thirty points a night for them to win, and it's
never it seemed like he never had the energy to
really just to really put his stamp on the game,
like like, we know he can, you know what I mean. Yeah,
I don't think he was aggressive enough either, because you know,

(21:24):
when James Hard is at his absolute best, James Hard
is getting into the rim yep, he's getting to the
rem and he's getting fouled.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yah, he didn't get there nearly enough. He didn't look
like he had that pomp.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
It's like, you know, they take him out the game
when he run pick and rolls, it's like he'll give
it up and he'd just be chilling like you know,
like and then and then he tried to get back in,
but it's like he can never get involved or get
itself engaged enough to really put his stamp on the
game of the night I was watching, I seen him,
you know, I've seen him multiple times just trying, but
it just seemed like it wasn't there. Yeah, I think

(21:55):
the thing if for for James is the most important
thing for James is to get James is going. Get
James going first, and then you could hey, because now
once you get James going, when they come now you
can give it up and you give it Norman Pile
easy shots. The other guys Zoo Box are getting easy shots.
But when you try to get everybody else going, now
it's hard. Now you're out of rhythm and you don't

(22:16):
have the rhythm that you need in order to get
get to your float game, finish at the rim and
shoot that step back three.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
So if you know, look, who am I going to tell?
James Harden. He's the MVP.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
He's the guy that's been the All NBA selection of
ten or eleven time All Star. But yesterday when they
need when what they needed James Harden.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
They needed game six James Harden. Yeah, that's what they needed.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
They needed needed somebody to go along with Kawhi, and
they didn't have that yesterday.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
You know, there's been a debate, you know, d Wade
or James Harden.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
It's hard for me to pick Harden over d Wade
because I've seen d Wade and Big all you got
to do is go back and look at that that
first championship. Yeah, them four games that d Wade played.
It's hard for you to say any body has played
better in a four game stretch in NBA Finals history, right,
don't make a look at those game. I mean the
average thirty six for the series. It was special, man,

(23:09):
he was. He was special.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
He was he was the only one. Yeah. I mean
the funny thing, you know, comparison.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
I always say this comparison is the thief of joy,
especially when it's coming to comparing players. And the first thing,
obviously the Wade, that stretch he had in that series.
I was able to see that live. I went, I
went to a few of those games. I was, I
was there myself also. But the first thing, you know,
the way he got three three D way he got
three rings to nine, the way he got three rings.
So really, doing the comparison, I don't think it takes

(23:39):
away away from James Harden greatness great, yeah, absolutely, but
just when it when it matters most for him, for
some reason, on Game sevens he just hadn't showed up.
And it's something that's happened time and time again, and
that there must be there must be something to it
about obviously, like Joe said, maybe he's worn down when
it gets late into the series like that and not

(24:00):
really the James Harden we used to seeing.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, I think because in the playoffs, Oh show, y'all know, man, listen,
that's some tough basketball.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Y'all see the injury. You see how physical the game is.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, I'm finn, even if you ain't got the ball,
it's bumping, grinding like it's taxing on the body. You know,
that's every other night in the NBA. So I think
after a while, you take enough of them, you know
it's gonna it's it's bound to.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Wear you down a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I agree,
I agree with you. I just I knew this Game
seven for the Clippers.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I knew it was gonna be predicated on James Harden
because I know what I'm gonna get from Kawhi is
gonna get me somewhere.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Between twenty two and twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Probably gonna give us about seven rebounds, probably about five
or sis.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
So I already know what I'm gonna get from him. Yeah.
Now who's gonna be the other guy and the third guy?

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Because you normally need like two guys for sure, impossibly
a third guy. When you go on the road for
Game seven, you see what you got with the Golden
State Warriors. You get Buddy, give you thirty three, and
then you get Jimmy give you what he gave you,
and then you get step. That's how you have to
do it. So I was counting on Kawhi and James
and said, Okay, where you're gonna get another points from?

(25:13):
Is it gonna be Norman Powell? Who's gonna chip Who's
gonna chip it? It's gonna be Zoo Box give us
one of those games where he give us twenty and fourteen.
Who's gonna be the third option? Well, there was no
third option yesterday. It was just one option, and that
wasn't nearly enough. The Indiana Pacers go on the road.
They beat the number one seed one twenty one to

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one twelve, and again it is by committee, cause you
know why. They had six guys and double figures. Pascal
Siakam seventeen points, Aaron Smith seventeen points, Miles Turner thirteen
and eleven, nim Hard twenty three, Halliburton twenty two and thirteen,
and Matthron eleven. That's how Indiana see Indiana look make

(25:58):
a miss Indiana trying to push tempo. Yeah, I don't care.
They say we'll take it out of there and run,
or you would would get it off the glass and run,
but were trying to run. Yeah, it's gonna be high
paced and uh Cleveland, man, this is a tough matchup
for Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oho me Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Garland the All Star guard, they is not playing in
the lineup. Uh. I know Donovan had with thirty three tonight,
but it took thirty shots to get inefficient. That's enough
from eleven from three. It's gonna be hard for them
to win. But I thought they scored enough. I just
don't they can't stop Indiana Indiana. When you look at

(26:38):
Nim Hart and Nate Smith, the two guys in the
starting lineup who were very great complimentary pieces to Hallenburg
turners in Pascal Siakam, Uh, they were huge tonight. They
played They both played big, They both were super efficient,
and they gritty players.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
They gritty players to where you know they gonna get
the job done on both ends of the floor. Oho,
they gonna make shot, they gonna sit down in that chair,
They're gonna guard and they gonna calls have it. And
I thought tonight those two alone pretty much won them
the game.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, oh definitely listen and Indiana shot impressive on especially
from behind all Joe and I'm bought fifty percent, you
know from three that got damn them hard. You know,
he was five or six from three and the goddamn
the calves the cast struggled, you know from three point range.
That he wasn't number twenty four percent.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Get them they they was, they bought them hard, was
making big Oh yeah, he was letting fly six.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
He was five or six.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
It was fix shots though, big shots. They yeah, yeah,
some big shots down the stretch and you think about it.
They had a big lead and then Cleveland cold it
and Cleveland got the lead, took the lead by like three.
They didn't pay it because a lot of times, you know,
you have a big lead like that, you're on the road.
Joe and the whole team come back. You padded like

(27:54):
we had. We let one. They said, no, nope, nope,
y'all them hard hit big three. He comes back down
and hit another big three. Like I said, the Pacers
are by committee. They might not have a guy that
with party, but they're gonna have a bunch of teams. Yeah,
they know they have a bunch of teams going on
seventeen seventeen thirteen. That's that's how they beat you. They're

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gonna push pace. Halliburn looking to get the ball ahead quick.
They give it to him and they say, you know
he got the ball ahead to see how come he
led it up from Obi topping Because they got guys
that can run the floor. I was gonna run the floor.
These smith's gonna run the floor. Turner who's a big
will run the floor. And so when you got guys
that will run the floor, Halliburn is gonna find you. Hey,

(28:39):
thirteen or sins with one turnover?

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, how long? How long? How long do you think
Garland nowt Helly been out for a minute. Yeah, there's
no no chance in coming back. I still think. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
I don't know if they can win. To see this
series without Garland, they have to get that. Where are
you gonna get the scoring? Where you're gonna get the score?
I thought Mobile played well.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, Moley was balling, especially on D. But I need
more than thirteen shots.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
See even I need five of those shots that Mitchell
took I need those to go to Evan Mobley. I
mean thirteen, you got thirty three. I mean if you
look at the stated light and say, oh, maybe he
did have thirty three, he took him thirty.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Shots, right, yeah, yeah, with thirty.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Shots, boy, you you need to have forty two, forty five. Yeah.
After the times Jerome kid coming off the bench, he
got up twenty shots off the bench.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Oh yeah, yet.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
But but you know, in his defense without Garland, not
that they need somebody.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Else to, you know, apply pressure. He's had some big
games throughout the season.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Huh, Evan Mobley, Yeah, he gotta well, he gotta be
more certain. He gotta search himself a little more. But
I'm gonna tell you Indiana with uh uh, with Matt Thring, Yeah,
with TJ. McCollum coming off the bench, I'm like, yeah, yeah,
the energy that they bring when they come into the game.
So I do think this is gonna be a tough,
tough series for Cleveland. I'm saying Indiana they got a

(29:58):
great chance of winning this. They got twenty shots in
twenty nine minutes.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
He hold on.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
I hear everybody's tone is changing, because when I when
I asked, when I asked all before about this series,
both of y'all picked the Calves and win it.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I thought Garland was gonna be playing O Joe Okay, Okay,
I don't know Garland was out. I ain't no all that.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
So who you got? I mean, based on what you
saw to night from the paces, you still.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I don't know if I don't know if they could
win it? Know Joe without Garland? Okay, I mean you're
gonna be down one All Star and beat a.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Team like this.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, I'm just I'm just making sure because the case,
they're not depending on anyone guy. So you don't know
who's gonna be your leading scoring from night to night?
So who do I key on? Do I get Halla Burton?
Do I get them?

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Hard?

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Turner could easily have twenty three twenty five points? Nielli, Okam,
So it's so hard. Yeah, we want a guy that
can close. But in a series like this, one team
is down there All Star and we seem to be
clicking on all cylinders as we started. It's gonna be
awful hard to overcome. And you know, uh, Hunter, I
would like to see Hunter get a more shot. Bro,

(31:00):
you got a he ain't get over eight shots. That's
he was in the running for six He should have
been in the runner for sixth Man of the Year. Hey,
I agree with you on that. I need Hunter to
be way more aggressive, Like you know. He he's the
one guy I think who can make a huge difference
in a series, you know, just by his mindset along
jo On a little bit, especially if Garland ain't gonna
be around, uh, don Donovan Motley, they gonna need that

(31:24):
third guy, and he needs to be that guy who
can step up and really get him over the top.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Halliburton is the snake though, he's the head if he
and when he's putting pressure on you getting the ball,
he's pushing, he's pushing the pace, and those guys are
getting out running lane, they get they gonna they gonna
get some they're gonna get some easy bucket. They're gonna
get the ball in the paint because he's gonna push tempo.
So you out there celebrate, you're doing this. Hey, okay,
hey Joe, you're doing this right? Here are you doing

(31:54):
You're doing all this right there? They laid the ball
up on another here, you're right, you're right. Yeah, he's
he's he's definitely if he's playing well, they always got
a great chance of winning. You mean, like, I don't
like if he you know the numbers, Sometimes you get
too passes. Sometimes he's like, no, bro, nah, I need you,
I need you score. But I think he's kind of
learned that over the years playing playing in these playoffs too.

(32:17):
I think I think he understands like he has to
assert himself more by getting in the paint, creating, creating habit,
shooting his float to you know, dim in his bigs.
But he has to score in order for them to
be effective. Now, I ain't saying he got to score
big numbers like thirty thirty.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Five, but no, no, no, no, no, no like this.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, yes, he's always gonna manage the game and keep
him in a great place because he's not a high
turnover guy. He's gonna always take care of the rock.
And in the playoffs that's what you need. You want
a guy who's really gonna value the rock, especially in
these uh, you know, these trying tough situations, especially coming
down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah you all you luggage, yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Hey, in order for the cast, I'm saying, if Garland
doesn't play, if Girland doesn't play obviously Mitchell. Mitchell has
to do everything he can. Everything has to start with him.
Mobley has to contribute. And the third guy, whoever, whoever's
going to be, he just got to go. He whoever
whoever you need to talk to. They got to give
him the green light. They let him shoot. Let shoot
that will so you can get some points. The Cavs

(33:17):
are gonna have to just their perim in the defense
to count the Pacers three point shooting. And you got
to you got to get back in the transition because
every winning. When you watch the place to play, Uncle,
I've been watching the Paces off season a long, it's
like a four by one team. Yep, they're like four
bout one. But they down and back down and back
down the back.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
But to see the thing, yo, Joe, you playing with
two bigs though, when you play that that not now big.
They gonna give you second chance opportunity. Yeah, they can
protect the paint. Every Mobley was Defensive Player of the Year.
Jared Allen can protect the paint. But the thing is
when you missing, you push not the big guy that
the tailor got in the back, and now you got
nobody to protect the front end. Of the rim on

(33:55):
the on the transition. Yeah, they need more from Streuss
and Meryl Maryland. Mean, you know you got seventy six points.
That ain't nearly enough. That's not nearly enough. Now I
get Tod Jerome, you know, I get him six man,
but twenty shots and Mobiley only got thirteen. Nah, No,
we gotta get hunted. We gotta get hunt on the ball. Yeah, honey,

(34:17):
need to be to be thirteen.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
He I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
You might even have to put him in the lineup,
in the starting lineup. I know they bring him off
the bench because they want that. You know they won't.
They won't that pop off the bitch. We put him
in the start line up where we're gonna get points
out the bitch from right. Absolutely. But hey man, listen, Honda,
we gotta he gotta get more touches. Eight shots ain't enough,
old Joe. We got to find a package for him,

(34:40):
for sure. Oh, I agree, I totally, I totally agree
with you. They sound back from Halley after the game
today is going viral. Being a point guarded like being
a mom. Your job is to take care of everybody.
It is, it is, it is. Yeah, that's the heart
but hey, hey, but you don't what Hey, but mom's

(35:01):
gotta eat too. Now, hey, you don't play mom prepared,
But don't think mom ain't gonna get a play.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Right Listen, after you know, after after mama feed the kids,
that's her time.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Need, Yeah, and what you want.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
That's basically basically that. That was basically Harn's approach to
the game the game seven. I'm an feed there, I'm
gonna feed everybody else and at some point I'm gonna
see if I can get myself in rhythm.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Right, Yeah, to what today in today's game, if you
at the point guard position, you got to be able
to score that thing, distribute it.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
You got to you like, you got to there's no
room for you.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Like if you can't score the ball and make plays,
it's gonna be hard because you a liability out there,
because they're gonna lump off you.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
You can't let them play four on five. That's really
why it's so hard for it.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
That's why it's so hard for being simmers to ever
get back, because everybody knows that you can't do anything
but it says to play defense, but it's not nearly
enough to offset what the lack he gives you on
the offensive end. So that's why you're gonna only play
him seven eight minutes a game, oh Joe, Because on
the offensive end, he ain't give you nothing. He ain't
even looking at the basket. Now he's not looking at
the basket. But I'll be I can remove the basket.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
I think I could.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
I can take the basket. I can take the basket
down and put him down there. He'll never know that.
I think he better suited at like at like the
fourth position, maybe even the five position nowadays, because the
guys are so small, and his rebounding the billy and
pushing the rock and making plays with guys added around him.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Who can shoot and score is best suited for him.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Uh. But yeah, I think he lost some confidence bro back.
Oh yeah, it's gone to listen. I watched the game
I'm talking about. Yes, still, yes, still, you know he's
had times where he's had point blank lop saying he's
he won't even shoot him like and see you said something, Joe,
you said, play him at the four because he can
get the office, he get the rebound, he get the

(36:52):
offensive rebound instead of putting the back up and he
looking at the pass back out of somebody.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
No, you shoot it.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yeah, they got to be there away to instill that
confidence back in young bull. It is he got to
get himself. I mean he got he got to be
around the right people home. When you told me, I'm thinking,
I'm thinking Ben Senders six four sixth five. You remember
how surprised I was when you told me how tall
he was. Yeah, he's six eleven.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Man, you're supposed to be out there. Man, dummy needs
to dude sixt eleven.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Sometimes, ojo, it gets between your ears. David Duval had
this happened to him. He developed the yips and he
had to leave the tour. Rick and Kell. He was
a picture, but he got the way he couldn't throw
across the plate and they had to move him to
the outfield. Chuck Knoblock was a second basement. He got
the way he couldn't throw it at the first base. He

(37:39):
had leavest. I mean sometimes who was that? Uh there
was another golfer that had that had that problem. And
when it goes, it goes, it's gone, O Joe. Once
it get in here, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
All the physical traits you want if you ain't got
it here, you can't play Hey.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Think about this, right, Hey, Joe, think about this, Think
about the mentality and approach to the game.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
And I'm not gonna use Kobe and Jordan. I'm gonna
use players in today's game.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Think if Ben Simmons had Anthony Edwards mentality, think I
Ben Simmons had that mentality like John Moran, just to.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Just give if Ben Simmons hold on, if Ben Simmons
has Anthey Edwards mentality.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Yeah, just think about it and not person I'm just
saying his mentality when it comes to playing the game
of basketball in general.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
No, you need facing the NBA because he gonna shoot it.
There's not there's not a shot that an can't don't
think he can make.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Right.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
But the problem with being and I've said this, it's
hard for me to see a scenario Joe where he's
put time in the lab because I watch a guy
like Auston Reeves, and I watch a guy go undrafted
and average five points to now he's averaging twenty points
in four years. I watch a guy and Ben Simmons
been Rookie of the Year and hasn't got any better.
So that something, something that's not transferred. It's hard, oh Joe,

(38:58):
for you to put to do so think for a
period of time and not get incrementally better. I'm not
gonna say that all of a sudden you start out
like this and then all of a sudden you're an
All Star, or you're an All NBA player, or you're
an MVP. But I got to see some improvement. Tell
me the improvement that you saw from Ben. If you
go back and look his number to come down. He

(39:20):
came down from his rookie year to when he wasn't rooking,
when he won a Rookie of the Year to the
other years. So something, something is, something is a miss
and I don't know what it is. But I'm telling you,
I can teach you to do anything if you're not
afraid of doing said thing.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
You see.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I can teach you how to swim if you're not
afraid of the water, see Joe, If you're afraid of
the one, I can never teach you how to fruit
swim because you're gonna fight it. See Ben Simmons. It's
not that he can't shoot, he's afraid to shoot. So
now how do I instill bro It's okay? Because the
first time the air boss and lay on the road.
What they gonna do? O?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Joe? What are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Joey? He goes to the free throw if I file him?
He goes through the pre throw out of the airballs one.
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Going air ball? Now you doing? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:06):
You're so See he's a o jo. Some people afraid
of having rejection. Some people have okay, you boo somewhat
watch this one. Yeah he can't do that.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
That's all mentality right there too, not not really, not
really caring about your surroundings, being able to play in
chaotic atmospheres like I enjoy that, Joe. I'm not sure
how you feel about being in being in chaotic atmospheres.
I prefer when I was I'm just saying that when
I played football, I prefer being away.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I like going to the black Hole. Uh. I like
going to the Steelers. I like going to the Ravens.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
I like the fan talking and chirping and talking trash
and calling me o Jo stinko.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I like that. For some reason that gives me like yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Like so just just the thought of you even explaining
how Ben Simmons is reacting because of what fan, what.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
I'm playing into that. I need I need you talking
that trash Joe.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
You remember that game they lost the game seven, They
lost to Atlanta and they had to and they had
they had the trash can going downstream. They had the
trash can on fire and they had a picture of
Ben Simmons being Simbals face was in here. And you
know what I said, go ahead, Joe, because I've been
in the lab with being you know, working out with him.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I worked out with him before, and it's a mental block.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Man.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
That man.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
He can shoot the mid rays, he can shoot the three.
But I watched him in open runs when they have
when they have them runs and they be showing it.
Oh Joe, he coming down, He's shooting threes. He coming down,
he pull up with the mini, He's doing all of that.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I seen that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
So that's why it's hard for us as fans when
we watch him play, we see we see this in
the summer. We see you working on we see you
doing that, and it's just rhythm and tirement, and then
when the NBA starts, it's like, hold on, man, what
was this dude?

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah? You know what I mean? Like he was.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Do you know how bad I wanted him to be
able to help the Clippers, Like I felt he could
have got the Clippers over the top if he just
would be aggressive, you know what I mean, drive to
the whole. But it's like he don't want to get foul.
He don't want to, he don't want to, he don't
want to score for some reason. And uh, I think
he got the package. Okay O, I think he can do.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah. I think it is a mental block, whether he
said or not.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
But that's kind of what it seems like when you
as from a fan perspective when we're watching, we've all
been in class with the kid that knows the answer,
but sometimes he has like he has a little speech
impediment or he has you.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Know, he he he.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
He might fumble get it out and he know the
kid's gonna laugh at him, so he just sit there
and won't say anything.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Right, right, We've seen it. That's being bro.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
You the number one overall pick, but number one overall
pick in the entire NBA draft. Yeah, Kareem was number one,
Magic was number one, Lebron was number one. Do you
we know some of the greats that Ben's Shock was
number one one overall. Tim Duncan, David Robertson, Elijah one.

(43:03):
Gotta be a special talent is a special clearly you
got the ability. Oh yeah, absolutely, but it doesn't matter.
It's all right here, hey, let.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Him come on, Let him come hang on, let him
come hang down here with me, for.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
It's hard o Joe. You got him as first the
second year at ten eleven years in. Ain't nothing going on.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
It's been ten years already.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah yeah, damn time Blade, It's time. Time is the
only constant have been. It moves whether you do or not.
Oh hello, didn't stop waiting on. It's not waiting on anyone, right,

(43:47):
So it's I don't know, and a loss today. Spider
made some history. The most consecutive game ones with thirty
or more points Donovan Mitchell eighty two twenty twenty five.
Michael Jordan had seven ninety seven through ninety eight. He
had also had seven between ninety one and ninety three.

(44:09):
Michael Jordan had six from eighty ninety ninety. Kobe has six,
Wilt had six, Alex English English had five. I mean
Spotty could put the ball in the basket now, I
mean he can score that bab anything. And once he

(44:29):
get cooking, can shoot the three, he can get to
the rim. He got a midy I mean his three
level score. And finally we go to the free throw line.
The whole I mean, we watched him have excuse me,
drop fifty seven in the bubble. Everybody thought, then him
and Murray go back to back. Murray had fifty, he
had fifty, and everybody said, oh, bet, that's just the bubble.

(44:50):
We see people doing strange things in the bubble. Ye
spot to say, y'all really think that. Okay, let me
show you. Man, listen, you know that's really me. I've
been them. Hey, old Joe. I was with him his
rookie and Utah when they draft him. I was here,
they're playing and I didn't see this. I'm not gonna
tell you no, lie, I did not see this. But
in talking to our assistant coaches at the time, because

(45:10):
they going through some league with him, he playing summer league,
they was like, we got special talent, we got one.
I had never seen him play in college, so in
the pros, I didn't really know what he could do.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
And uh man, he was special. Bro.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
From the moment he got his opportunity Quinn put him
in the starting lineup. He took full advantage of it,
and the man that's been going ever since. Uh Yeah,
I look for him to really put his stamp on
this series, knowing and understanding if he ain't got Garland
in this series against the Pacers, he's gonna have to
step up and uh and be special, you know throughout

(45:46):
the rest of these games, don't Joe.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Yeah, you know what I mean, he's gonna he's.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Gonna have to uh, you know, he's gonna have to
go vinure, We're gonna need some forty five maybe even
a me in there, like that's what it's gonna take
in order for them to win.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Yeah, you could do He could do it too. Now
he can put the whole team on his back. Yeah,
he put the whole team on his back. I just
seen him do it a few times.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
I think he got more scores now than what he had,
uh than when he was in Utah. And look, go
bear with the guy that you rebound the ball, rebound
the ball and had it to Donovan.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah. I mean that's kind of what Jared Allen Jared
Allen is basically that.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
You're not running play for Jared Allen. He's gonna you know,
he's gonna he lob threat. He'll get it back, He'll
get an offensive rebound and stuff it back. But I'm
not running no set for it, right, just like you
didn't run stats for Rudy Gobert. So I think if
I think for me, if Evan, Mobley and Hunter are
a little bit more aggressive and get more I mean
Hunter for eight shots, Mobley, Mobley and Hunter had one

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fewer shots than tied Jerome. Yeah, we can, man, We
we gotta get uh, we gotta get hunted the rocks. Man.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
We gotta eat. Yes, you got to.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
So what do you think I mean, Donovan Joe, I mean,
that's that's pretty impressive because Michael Jordan's on here three times,
Kobe's on here.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Will I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Mean, we don't even say nothing about Will because Will
got record they gonna ever ever be broken? Yeah, Will
got like foul, got like fileny point game.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, so he got record they gonna ever be broken.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
You know now that it don't get a lot of
credit neither man, but he's been so he's been missed
the consistent throughout his whole career. You know what I
mean it's pleading the playoffs. He has He is ranked
number nine uh in playoff.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Point playoff points history.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Like, man, come on, man, hey, Like I said, we're
gonna need him to step up and put up some
big numbers throughout this series if they looking forward to advancing, because.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
What is it? What is the injury they have? I
don't even know the injury. It is toe, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I'll see when it's them lower extremities. You know they
gonna linger old Joe. I had turf toe before. I
know what that's like.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Hey, I got listen, Hey, you know about my remedy.
Huh for any anything, any lower extremities. I got the
remedy for I listen, Garland, if you see this.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
I don't want to hear. You don't want to hear
about the joke.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Hey, Garland, if I got something I hadn't, right, I have,
I have you back for Game two?

Speaker 2 (48:08):
What you let me? Let me let me what you
got you show?

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Yeah, So for me, any lower extremity, any injuries I
might have had during during the season, spraying ankle, high
ankle sprain, low ankle sprain, Grade three, Grade two, it
doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Grade one, for that matter.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
So I would beat turring okay urine from if I
didn't have enough for me, I get enough from my
teammates as well. With great understanding that once you warm
the urine up right and put enough where you could
put your foot in it and it comes above the ankle,
it evaporates the toxic Listen, listen to me, now, stay
with me. Now, the toxins in the urine takes all

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the swelling out as if you never even sprain the ankle.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Now there's a study, there's a study been done.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
And matter of fact, it was just on Twitter like
two days ago. I'm telling you people, people, people in
the check and the tested this that just saw the
guy explain it on what the urine can do for
the body and helping it heal at a magnificent rate.
That science really doesn't teach you. And it's a home reading.
My grandma taught me when I was younger. That's why

(49:14):
I played thirteen fourteen years. It was no injury, Joe listen.
I did the NFL, I went to Canada, I did
one year in Canada, and in Canada, I played in Mexico.
I Dodne played all around the world. So, and I
mean still to today, I'd never been hurt. I mean,
i'd have had my heartbroken before. That's about it.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Why did you put on that?

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (49:40):
I know, Joe, most people look at it and they'll
be like, oh nah, I ain't doing that.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
But it worked. I'm wanted them people, but it works.
It worked for me, and it could work for you.
I mean, you know you still do it to this
day to keep you going. But I don't need to
do it now because I'm not really doing anything. I
play soccer.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
I play soccer, no every every every so of a
Maja Jamaican team and for Lauderdale.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
But outside of that, I mean, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
I'm a Joe. I'm like, hey, coach, I'm out this
one two weeks. Listen, hey, Joe, I could have saved.
I could have saved he unk had all these injuries.
You remember remember the remember the board game operation? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's m.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
He something was always hurt. So I could have said
it if I was if I.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Was on teammate, I had the high Well back then,
they didn't. They didn't call it high a spring. They
just it was just an ankle spring, right right, So Hey,
I just shot up and played.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Didn't realize I was doing more damage.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
M I But you know, coming in at a low
round draft pick, oh, Joe, hey, I got to get it.
You mean I got to get it. If I was
the first rounder. I just saw my ass down because
I know, I'm hey, I know I'm gonna be there.
I seventh round draft pick. Nah, bro, I got to
get on out there and I got to get it.
I got to get it. So Donovan Mitchell most executive

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game one with thirty points or more in NBA history.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
He now has surpassed Michael Jordan with eight. That's crazy.
That's a lie.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
An interview has surface, though ad Man said he wants
to face the Warriors in the playoff playoffs and I
want to go get the Warriors wherever they're at.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I want to get them. Reporter, why the Warriors?

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Ad Because Draymond talked so much trash And that's pretty
much the only reason I like.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Man, That's what That's what I'm talking about. Man, we
need we need more of that. Everybody. Everybody likes to
just play the game of basketball.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
But when you bring that entertainment value like that, that
makes you want and hope that the Warriors and the
Wolves have a series. It's because of something like somebody
like that can that can talk it and they can
walk it. It just makes it makes it that much better.
That's why I say I would love for him to
be the face of the No disrespect to Jason Tatum.
Great player, NBA champion, you know, NBA champion, All Star,

(52:04):
you know, Olympic team. He has all these accolades, but
it just doesn't add up to that aura and it
factor that Ann has.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
Like that's that's man. Listen, Buddy, Buddy raw Man, Hey,
hey for for the story, for the story. Okay, oh Joe,
this one here gonna go down in the books. Uh see,
the one team that was at home to night chairing
was the timber Wolves. They were cheering for the Warriors

(52:32):
for a number of reasons. They played the Warriors. They
get home court advantage. See the woman come to them.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
But if if the Rockets would have won, they would
have had to go to Houston. You see what I'm saying.
So timber Wolves got home court advantage. They know and understands,
you know, the moment and what it possents. And like
I say, and man got this hit list. He's Finna ask.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
He tried to. He got a couple of people He's
gonna ask this. Listen to it. You've been added to it,
do you? Hey? When when the series star Joe?

Speaker 1 (53:04):
It's just uh, probably Tuesday. So look think about this, Okay, Joe,
this series is gonna start Tuesday. You're just coming out
for seven game grueling series against the Rockets. Probably gonna
wear you down a little bit. Timber Wood's been at
home kind of resting. They got their feed up a
little bit, but uh, they gonna be ready. They probably

(53:25):
gonna look a step of two faster.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Than the Warriors on Game one. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Now watching watching Rudy Gobert go out there and forget
how to play basketball, dreamline take him completely that the game.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Now, this is gonna be a wrestlemting. And we were just
talking to be up there.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Uh, we're just talking to be on the way by
a week, a week or two ago. Yeah, man, they're
gonna be wrestlemated. This musty TV. Rudy Gobert and Drakemond Green.
Oh yeah, y'all already know how this thing is gonna
go down. Yes, and span of twelve month, the Wolves
are sitting home Kevin Durratt, Nicola Jokic, Luka Donget, and Lebron.

(53:59):
James at Man is looking to ask Steph Curry to
his list. Let me ask you a question. How many games?
Who wins? And in how many games? Look y'all gonna
start with you? Who wins and how many games? Oh?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Man, this is a good one.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Listen where Anthony Evers playing the Ways playing Rudy Garbert.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
If you can have another game?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Not maybe not twenty seven again, but he contributed on
both ends of the court, giving him the second chance points,
rebounding defensively, everyone else contributing as well.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
I say it's gonna be another seven game series, and
I got a man.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
I got a man pulling it off, adding another one
to the hit list.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
What you got, Joe, I don't got no seven games series.
I got this. I got the t Wolves winning this
in about five six games? Damn? Five to six? Yeah?
What's wrong? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Only only only said the seven because Steph and Dramond
and them boys are used to playing in this type
of atmosphere. So I'm saying they're gonna stretch it all
the way to seven. But if you say five or six,
you know better than me because you played I just
be in the YMC.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Hey, this is just this is just my opinion. Oh Joe,
I don't it would be true now, allowing me the
right to be wrong, right right, right right. But but
I'm in my assessment. I'm thinking of okay, seven game series.
Butler didn't look like he didn't look like you don't
look like he moved it, even though he played a
decent game.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Now he played the game to night.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Him and stuff looked like they kind of hobbled and
gimbled a little bit. And going into playing against these
tea walls, they gonna be ready. Man, They hungry, They ready,
They sitting and waiting. It's gonna be like that. But
because my thing is, who's gonna do who's guarding you ramble? Right,

(55:40):
That's what I want to know. Because if you go
big and you put Cabal Looney in there to deal with.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Because now you you mess up your space.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
And because you put Loon in there, and you and
you have Draymond, you bang with j.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
You random the load. Man, you gotta be ready to
bang with it. Yeah, it's it's it's gonna be It's
gonna be a tough uncle.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
It's it's gonna be some nose and nose in this series,
you know, because yeah, Julius Rownd Well, I could definitely see.
I could definite see rather than Dre Bond getting to it,
you know. You know, I think I think one of
the weapons for the Warriors. Man, They're gonna have to
try to find a way to get Kamingo back into
the fold because they're gonna need him in this series

(56:23):
coming up, man, you know, and they kind of it
kind of showed today they kind of need They needed
him early, but I think they gonna need him throughout
this series. You know, he got he got youth on
his side. He's he's played in big moments. He knows
and he knows what he knows what, you know, he's
capable of doing. I think they need his productivity, you know,
especially coming up in this series.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
He hadn't played in a while that I know. They
threw him.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
They've been throwing him out there here and there, but
they got to try to find some consistent minutes for him.
I like I like the I like the t Wolves
also because I don't know when they go to the
bench nods, nods, reed, who's gonna deal with him. Right,
not only can he shoot this free and stretch the floor,
he can also go down and post.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yeah. So now you gotta think about it. That's Moody,
that's Kaminga.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Let's try to deal with a big, a big, a
true big yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Uh. And that's why, that's why I.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Favor the te Wars, Uh, because of them big bodies
that they have, that they can throw it, and they
they big bodies can score, and they can play made
so and they guards sit down and they play deep
McDaniel's uh. And it was Alexander Walker and Alexander Walkers
Devens those you know, those are some guys. You know,
I've still gonna win you games throughout the series. So

(57:36):
I get the te Wars. The edge Man, I think
it's gonna be a phone on the watch. Gary Payton
the Second didn't play the night he was dealing with
an illness. He's gonna get a lot of minutes on
ant Man. They're gonna try to wear ant Man down.
They'll probably have Kamingo deal with him. They have Moody
deal with him, They'll have Gary Payton Second deal with him.
They'll they'll they're gonna try to throw different. I don't

(57:56):
think anybody can stop it. You're gonna try to get
the ball out of his hand and wherever you can
make somebody else beat you. Uh, Lakers did that and
McDaniels had a great series, and I was reading knocked
down some big shots. Obviously Jue Ramble gave you what
he gave me, probably twenty I probably average twenty two
and eight for the for that series. Uh, this, it's
gonna be a very very interesting matchup. It's gonna be

(58:17):
a chest I see how Fish is what he gonna
do with with Steph. How he's gonna defend Steph because buddy,
he was like, I'm gonna make y'all pay y'all make
it seem like I can't shoot the three. Y'all know
I can shoot you three. Man. Listen, if you don't
scratch in game six, how we expect for you to
come out and give a thirty something in game seven?

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Come on? Yeah, we ain't nobody like this.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Man?

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Is he out of hey? When you hit that shot?

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Well that at the end of the half, Yeah, I said,
oh man, yeah, man, things go you're living right? Uh?

Speaker 2 (58:50):
You living? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Hey for a guy for a guy who couldn't make
a shot at Game six to hit that, like, yeah,
that's that's the topic. That's a confidence building listen now
you know, yeah right, because he had twenty three. He
had twenty three in the first half. He didn't give
you none in the third court. I don't think he's
scored any of the third He scored a third one.
I think he got his leven in the four.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Yeah, he sat done any he said, I got, y'all,
I got y'all this league. I spotted y'all.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
So okay, Steph Gibber, y'all, y'all, y'all cares on from here.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I don't I don't know how much the NBA is
a copycat league.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
As you watch a series and knowing you you playing
the following team coming up next, like the NFL is,
you see something work on another team and then you
just copy that and do the same thing. Well, you know,
you know how to slow Steph down, you know, maybe
not stopping, but contain him and just do the same
thing the Rockets are doing. Defensively, the Wolves are capable
of doing that. Yeah, they doing the same. I don't
think the Rockets the Wolves might have better defenders. Individual defenders. Right,

(59:49):
Jay McDaniels is the individual.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
It is a better individual individual defender said anybody.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
That individual defender.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
I don't think there's really nobody off the dribble that
can stay with Steff Regard Carless, REGARDSS.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Who ain't nobody really dealing with? Nobody wanting Joe? Okay,
the best of the best. Okay, You just you try
to make it as tough as possible. So if he
gives you twenty if he if he averages twenty seven,
you try to hold him at twenty three, or if
he gets his twenty seven. You try to make it
as inefficient as possible. Right, But you go out there
and say, oh yeah, oh you average twenty seven. You
ain't give a twelve to day Okay, good luck with that.

(01:00:23):
Yeah nah, But I think I think I think t
Wolves got the defenders to to to, you know, wear
him down throughout the series. You know, the long rangy guys. Yeah,
who's gonna be pesty picked him up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Or you know, just don't give him nothing easy. Man.
I watch when I be watching the game, they take
Steph out of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
They be playing four and four out there. Yeah, that
man be staying to have for his man, don't even
be looking at the ball. But uh, I got, I got,
I got the t Wolves and uh made a young
fellow legacy continue.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
He I think, I think, I think he's gonna be
special in this series. I do too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
And as a big game performance, I think the best
thing that happened to add was going to the Olympics
and being around KD, being around Lebron, being around Steph
Curry like okay, m ye, a monst of grapes, yes,
And so how they how they approach it, how they

(01:01:28):
get themselves prepared, how they go about their business. Now, look,
he's not gonna that's that's not what he is. He
hes not gonna be as button up as Lebron and staff.
But you got you just got accepted for who he is.
That's who he is. And that was and you heard
what you just said. Yes, he doesn't have to be
as button up, and he refused to be that. He's

(01:01:50):
authentic to himself, which is why he's so relatable to
everyone else, why everybody's gonna be a fan. And then
you need you to have some people that to bring
up stuff that has nothing to do with on the field.
And I mean on the field, on the court, Anthony Verards.
But man, I love and appreciate anybody that remained true
to themselves and who they are without informing how they

(01:02:12):
think you should be as an NBA player.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Yeah, but no, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I don't just necessarily think it's an NBA player because
every player is not held to the same standard as
Lebron and Steph Curry.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Everybody wasn't held to the standard like Jordan.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Everybody wasn't held to the standard like Bird and Magic,
right right, Kobe, there's difference. But when they say, okay,
when they talk about the NBA and they have these
pictures up there and your face is front and center
when they when when the NBA marketing campaign, they want
you front and center.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
It's just it's different.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
You got to realize these guys, like those own guys,
they got married.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
They you know, they not these guys on Jo they
playing video games, Jordan, They're playing no video game matter.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
The old guys weren't playing on their video games bad.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
These guys they playing card and they play a Fortnite
against somebody else, somebody with a whole different teeth.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Hey man, what's your name, what's your tag. All right,
come on, check this out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
It's a different time now, and I think we have
to change our word thinking of what the face of
the NBA is because the old faces those guys aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Like that anymore. No, no, he Hey, look, whether whether
he likes it or not. You know, when you chosen,
you chosen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Bro't nothing nothing, nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
In the route that he's taking, whether he likes it
or not, he completed this mission right here. It's gonna
it's gonna happen whether he whether he likes it or not.
And uh, that just comes with the game. It's part
of it, man, you know what I mean. Look, when
you chosen Joe, you can't run from that. You remember Jonah,
God told him say that you. He's like, nah, nah,

(01:03:50):
let somebody else, And so what are you gonna do?
He gonna get the boat and go no where else.
Kimel that when he spit his ass back up on
the shore, what do you do? He went and did
what Jesus asked me to do. You see, when you chosen,
when you that's your calling. You can't run from you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Hey, listen, and you you might not answer the phone.
It's your calling. You might not answer the phone. Don't
worry about He'll take care of the rest. Yeah, so
you can't you you can't run from that. I understand,
because he's like, man, look, I want to go. I
want to be free.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
I want to do what I want to do without
y'all looking over my shoulder and cameras everywhere I go
because I might come out the little hole in the wall,
and you know, basing the NBA's supposed to be in
the hole in the wall. You know what I'm saying, Joe.
You know what I'm saying, Joe, Hey, I understand. But
when the universe pick you, baby, they thinky.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yeah, you got is a man, the best big game
player in the NBA currently, best big.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Game player in the game currently. Man, we said, some
guys play some big games. Uh yeah, I think I probably.
I probably give him a nine. I think because he
just accepts it. Man. He's a little different than than
some of the some of the other superstars that we
have in the league. And I think that's why people
gravitate to the rawness of who he is and how

(01:05:07):
he speaks his mind and how he carries himself and
how he talks trash throughout the games. And oh yeah,
I'm looking to anybody. I'm looking to play the Warriors,
matter who you are. Hold on, y'all seen what Obama said.
He said, look at this guy right here, he can
play a little bit. He said, you better stand down.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
I'm the truth. Yeah he didn't talking about I'm playing
with me. So uh. We we love that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
We we gravitate toward it, and we and we all
want to see him do good man because he has
the talent and night in and night out, bro, he
gives us something spectacularly, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Because not only can't he make the three, he can
play above the rim.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
He put your ass on the poster. Now you go
up there if you want to. I'm telling you're gonna
be on his card. You're gonna be on his card.
I think the underrated thing. I think his underrated attribute
is his defense. Okay, oh Joe, Oh yeah, I'm saying
on any level with his blocking shots, whether it's locking down,
playing his one on one defense, fighting over picks like
he showed me some of that Lakers series and I

(01:06:07):
was like, yeah, young fella, taking the next step, and
that's what it is. Playing on both fans being a
two way superstar, you know what I mean, not just
a two way player, but here a two ways to
superstar because he impacts the game on both fans of
the floor. Just like in that last closeout game against
the Lakers, he didn't play great offensively, but defensively he
was disruptive, he made plays offensively, and he did enough

(01:06:29):
for them to win, like it didn't take for him
to you know, while you on the stat sheet. So yeah,
I think that's I think that's the best part where
you can tell about a player when you can find
other ways to impact the game, even even when you're
not doing what you're known.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
For, which is scoring.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Can I can I impact the game? Or Joe if
I if I don't have ten catches, how's my blocking?
How's my decoy?

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Am I getting out of there?

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Make everybody think I'm about to I'm about to get
this rock when I know I'm just clear for somebody
else to run the shallow or to run that deep over.
But I didn't make sure I get that safety up
out of there and pull that linebacker. Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Is that? Is that? Really?

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
So you gotta find way other ways to impact the
game because sometimes Guys only see their value if I'm
catching past, if I'm scoring points. You know, you gotta
find value in other things also, and that's when you
become the Greatness. Chat is evinly split on the series
fifty one percent of taking the Warriors forty nine percent
taking the Tee.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Well, somebody gonna be wrong, Yeah, either the fifty one
or the forty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
The volume