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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Oh, Joe Samuel tweeted he doesn't think Cam was a
game changer. He tweeted, Honestly, Cam Newton was a game changer.
He was just a big guy that could run the ball.
Not much talent in that.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Oh hey, now they finna go at it. Hey, listen,
this this is finna be classic. By this finna be classic.
So you know, Cam gonna go on the fourth and one,
He's finna be finna breakdown whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Let nothing go. Cam ain't lett nothing.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Go, nothing at all.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
But listen, I mean, Cam Newton is more more than
just a game changer. He's one of the most prolific quarterbacks,
dual threat quarterbacks the NFL has ever seen. Obviously, he
did it at Auburn, he did it in the NFL,
made it to a Super Bowl. Obviously, wasn't able to
accomplish you know that feed and winning one.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
But he was able to make it.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
And he was the face of he was the face
of a franchise. So, I mean, I'm not sure you
know what's going on with was Zon and Cam, But
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
This is what he also added, I'm on Cam neck.
I don't want to hear him talk down to no
one on none of the top quarterbacks. Let's ride tag Cam,
you could have tagged you think?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You think maybe because he been talking about Jaylen Hurtson
and stuff like that, so.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
He I guess that's what he said.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Cam cries, no one wants to sign him because he
thinks he's like that. So delusional, Cam, you you could
run because your big brother. How many years was Cam
a game changer? Please tell me maybe one year? This notion, Well,
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if that's the case, only Tom Brady, Manning, Lway, Marino
Montana can talk about any quarterbacks. If that's what if
we're just if we're just gonna allow the top quarterbacks
to talk about top quarterbacks, ain't nobody could be on TV,
nobody but Tom Brady. Only Brady because he's the only
one that's on television.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I think Drew to Romo, I mean he no, Tony
Romo was no damn he you think he could be
he could talk about quarterbacks?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
No, Cam, No with a Rookie of.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
The Year, a Rookie of the Year, an m v
P leader team to the Super Bowl, and and Romo
never let a team to an NFC championship game.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Oh hell no.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You're right, You're right, but but hold on, well Dan
dan Alowsky does it, Dan does dagg do it?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Then then I don't have any problems because guys that
played the game you could be. But I thought, for
the longest, we wanted guys to play the game to
be able to critique us. You guys they used to
hate that guy that never played the game was talking
about people that was actually playing the game. What is this,
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I thought out, because when I first got the CBF,
they make it seem like because I played the quarterback
with the position, I couldn't have an opinion on the quarterbacks. No,
I don't, I guess, he said, Because I guess, I guess.
Assante hearst that Cam said that he doesn't think Drake
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May is a game changer.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Oh okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So Sun coming to the defense of Drake May.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I mean, are we not allowed to have opinion? We are?
We are.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You can say I believe Chase is the best receiver
man you hate no Jeter?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
You hate no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Why can't I think? Why?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I mean, the whole thing, the way this thing works,
it only works television radio pods only works if you
just gonna say I take both of them. Well, anybody,
anybody at the water that's getting water at the time
to say that. You want people that's played the game
that's played in and you couldn't disagree with that person.
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But what do they think. There's a reason why you
tune into these shows. There's a reason why you might
not like him, but you tune in to hear what
they're gonna say, even if you just so you can
criticize it. That's the way it is. I look, I
ain't got no problem. You weren't that good. I've said
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it before. I think the two best tight ends to
ever play the game with Kelsey and Grom. I give
a slight nod to Kelsey because I've never seen someone
be as clutch. I mean, you look at his numbers,
the seven one thousand yard seasons for a tight end.
Seven seven. He had an opportunity to get eight, but
he shot out so he could have had. That's what
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a ride receiver does. You look at the catchers, you
look at the yards, you look at the touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
He's with He and Grom big time. They came up
in big moments.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And that's why I give them a nod, no tight
ends came through in big moments when it mattered the most,
more than those two guys. And I think, look, I
love Gates, I think Gates on Mount Rushmore, Ozzie and
Big Kellen Gonzo.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But I've got no problem. I did what I did.
I like, Hey, listen, I don't I don't have I
don't have a I don't have a problem.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I don't have a problem guys having an opinion. And
I don't think we should get mad and and and
just call Cam, Hey, Cam, Bro, I don't agree with
that one, and then maybe go on Cam, show a Cam.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
This is this is the times that we're in.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
This makes for great content. This makes for great content.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And now we get to have a verbal war based
on opinions where a Santi doesn't agree with Cam, and
Cam is gonna fire back at a Santi based on
what he thinks.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
In his view.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But if Cam, if a Sante really felt like that,
he should have tagged Cam, don't say, somebody tag him.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
You'll tag him, You'll say, that's the whole point, that's
the whole point. I don't want to tag him. I
want them to tag him, because that.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Is oh oh, you want him to hear about you?
So you so another word? You want to hey? You whistling?
But you hey when you come?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Want I want everybody to jumping on this thing. Get
to get the ball, roll it and listen.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
It's great. It's content, content creating, that's all it is.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And I like it. I like it. I like it.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I can't wait to see what Cam come back with
them to them too, they finish, go back at it
for a while.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
O Jo, you can have that, But why would you
try to attack Cam's career? You see, you can have
an opinion, but now you attacking it.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
When was it?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
When was he a game changer? Ever since he got
in the lead? Do you stop? We gotta stop Cam Newton.
I look at anybody that you build your defense to stop.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
He's a game absolutely. I mean, of course, of course
he was a game changer.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Maybe maybe he used the wrong the wrong word, because
when you think of Cam Newton, he.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Said, how many years was Cam a game changer? Please
tell me? Maybe one?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Teams built their off beat their stop Cam.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah yeah, that's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Look that's his opinion.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I thought, I thought Cam was unbelievable, got that team
to a super Bowl. Uh, they got to the playoffs.
He was Rookie of the Year. He's the first quarterback,
He's the only quarterback. His first two games he threw
for over four hundred yards. As a matter of fact,
those are the only two times he's ever thrown for
four hundred yards with his first two games of his
career as a rookie. They and a whole lot of
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rookies that's ever thrown for four hundred yards, let alone
open the season.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
A Rookie of the Year, an MVP.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, like I said, he can have his opinion, critique
what Cam said. But then when you start see here
the thing when you when you if, I was like,
oh man oh yo man, I don't know. I think
I got this guy with man. Ain't went with one
pro bo oh ain't having one all pro. Now I'm
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attacking Oo. I'm now attacking Oo's career. It's not about
Ocho's career. Attack what I said. I don't got to
attack Ojo personally. I ain't got attack no one's personally.
If I got a different opinion, I ain't gotta I
gotta take attack him personally. That's that's the only thing. Uh.
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He has the right to see whatever he wants to say.
He has a platform. And that's why you see a
lot more of these platforms popping up because guys want
their voices heard, they want their opinion heard. Where I
where I. You know, I'm gonna say this one when
you start attacking the man's career personally, Hey, uh someone
uh that faced Camelot with Jerreal McCoy. He was a
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game changer's entire career until twenty eighteen versus Pittsburgh when
he tore his shoulder up. He was never the same
after that. We played again. We planned all about him,
not the scheme. The scheme was basic. He was the scheme.
A couple of years he played with Steve. We game
plan for him. But after that, even with Greg I
mean Greg olser Good, our only focus was Cam. He
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played with young c Max, so it wasn't him yet,
but Dog stepped his foot on the league and as
a game changer. People forget what he was doing. Man,
Go watch him versus the Patriots in twenty thirteen, and
you tell me he wasn't a game Listen.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
You know, Cam was him. Cam was him.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I mean, there there's a blind A blind man can
see that.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
So the game changes thing. I mean, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
When he was the franchise, he was that guy for
a veryver, for a very long time. And obviously the
person that is a game changer is the one that
the teams had the game plan for. And when you
play the Carolina Panthers when Cam Newton was the quarterback,
your game planning, yes, stop him.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Stop Cam, absolutely absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Just because he ain't had no Tom Brady or no
Peyton Manning or no Ben Roethlisberger career doesn't mean he's
a game He wasn't a game changer.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah, his game was completely different.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
First of all, everybody doesn't have how I want to
say this, like Brady and Jerry. Normally there are peaks,
O Joe. You have about the really really good players
to have a five probably about a five to a
seven year window, eight year window where they're here. You
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get a guy like a Jerry and he got fifteen
years of here. You get Brady who got like twenty
years a here. I mean that's normally how it goes.
It's hard. Aaron Donald was the only guy that came
in whopping ass who left whipping ass and say I'm
doing whipping ass.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But everybody, everybody don't have no career like that. Know
what else?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You know what else you we need to ask is
you would have to you would have to understand. Also
for a scientia to say what he's saying, what's his
criteria for being a game changer?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Maybe his criteria.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Might be different than everyone else's where he feels Cam
wasn't a game changer, so his criteria might be different.
So I mean, hey, listen, it's so many layers to that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
If they trying to stop if they trying to stop you,
if they build their game plan to stop you, I
guarantee you. I guarantee you everybody that faced the Carolina Panthers.
So the better question was, let's go ask defensive coordinators.
So when you played the Carolina Panthers from twenty twelve
until twenty let's just say twenty eighteen, what was your mission?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Hmm, stop Tom? I mean stop camp.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, I mean that that that's it.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
The man got to the Pro Bowl. Look at his
receivers that he took to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I we know it.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I didn't want to go there. I ain't Wanna. I
ain't want to go there, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna
let you do it. Everybody.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I mean, he was.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Almost he was damn there one man shown hold on, yeah,
damn well, he was the one man showt Auburn.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Thank you. Tell me how many of those offensive guys
played in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Man, that's a good that's a good one. I can't
I can't remember that whole squad.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I just say the thing.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
You look, it's just gotten to the point now that
you really can't have an opinion. If you have an opinion,
they say you hating. So mea, I'm gonna keep.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
On hate because when y'all look at it, resume complete,
go punch holes in it.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well you didn't catch no, oh Joe, you don't have
to tell me were you ain't camba like five six
passes in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
What game was that? How many pass like?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
In what game? Oh? Oh? That was Okay? What's the objective? Oh? Okay?
All I know you go look at the nineties, go
see you the All Decade team for the nineties.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Are you on now?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I bentioned the guy from Fromanna. Stay on there. That's
all I do. All that other stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I don't know. I don't know who the tight end
was in the eighties. Well, I think I think it
was killing in Ozzie. Y'all say whatever. But when I left,
Oh Joe, you see all these I had all.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I had all of them. Most yards, most catches, most touchdowns,
most yards in the game, most.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Pro Bowls, most all pro I had that. Yeah, somebody
came and got it, just like Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson
used to have all the records. Now are Taylor swimmed
and Drake and wicked him.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I got me some records too, Now, you know, I
want to shore. I want too shabby during my day. Now,
you got six Pro Bowls? Yeah yeah, you got all
three of them? I got three, all three?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Got I got what what we what they're talking about me?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I got all the records with the bangles is the receiver?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Shoot?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
What're we talking about? I think Chase Chase Chase going
to break that?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, yeah, Hey, because you had them. There are a
lot of people that ain't had no records to break.
Come on, now, man, such as such?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Okay, I get okay, you want to say such and such?
Better me.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I ain't gonna argue gronk whoever you say? Now, what
about you?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Hey, somebody said I ain't got no ring though, hold on.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
You got a ring?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
What you talking about? By boy?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Look at this where you see this? You see that
right now?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I ain't got no this ain't no super Bowl worth
this way. But you talk about oh Joe, hold on,
but you see they do you see how they did?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
What they do? You now?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
When you when you win, when you if you win,
they say super Bowl is.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
A team goal.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Okay, somebody in the chat you said you ain't got
no ring, boy, I got me one right here.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Brock costs more than any super Bowl ring. Boy, stopped
playing See this that you see that?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Huh? That overcut man?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Stop playing me?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
But you talk about so but by the thing I
look at like I said, I don't have any problem
with Cam critiquing quarterbacks. I don't have any problem with
Asante Samuels. But just let's just say talk about what
Cam saying. Don't talk about Cam's career because he I mean,
you don't, I mean, do I have to be I
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ain't no doctor, but I know my damn head hurt.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I ain't no, doctor, I ain't with not one mad school.
But don't you I know when I'm sick. Now, I
might not know to do the extent of my sickness,
but I know I'm sick. So if you want to
critique somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Look I was saying, I was like, man, that Joe, Bro,
what do you you talking all this talk? What did
you do? Those that can't do, those that can't teach?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Okay, But after being in this space, I'm like, let
everybody have their billion right now. Who am I to
said what they can or can't say? Have your opinion.
I may disagree with your opinion. We might have a
differing of opinions based on my experience, based on and
that's that's all. What Ocho and I really try to
do is that we try to take a situation. I
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was feeling, I feel real comfortable talking about trade bar
Diggs because I had seen similar situations. And what irks
me about people that's a grown man and he should
they not going to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
He should be allowed. Bro, it don't work like that.
When you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You can't do what you you that's that's street stuff.
We need to start with that food.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You sound ridiculous I mean, hold on, and not when
you're making that kind of money. You're making that kind
of money, you got to play the game different. You
got to play the game within the game.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yes, that's all. That's all.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But like I said, Sante, I ain't got no problem
with the Sante he got. He got up said with us,
O Joe, we're talking about him in time. That's his opinion.
He has an opinion that you know, he thinks Drake
May is a game changer. Cam does not critique what
Cam said. Okay, this is why I don't think Cam
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it's correct when I look at Drake May and I look.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
At what he's done X, Y and Z.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
But the moment you bring in Cam's career, you're trying
to try to invalidate him and try to make his
his opinion less valid. And that's where that's where you
lose me with that. Oh Joe, I ain't no, I
ain't no no foreign policy expert expert. But I know
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what happened last night, late last night and early this morning,
and everybody know why it happened.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
About you know how many you know how many barrels
they got out there?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Why that's why they did it?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
It was never about no fitting of It was never
about no cocaine.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Come on now, and.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
The man stepped to the mic and told you, why see,
they got all and we got it, and we're gonna
run it. And our company is Exxon Mobile, Chevron.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
We're not gonna talk about politics. Go ahead, but I.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Can see yes everybody, Yes, the biggest gangsters in the world.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But I just hate that. I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I don't, I don't like I don't like that because
I wonder how we would feel a somebody in Russia
with putin a ggping a China came in and tried
to snatch and say, you know what, we don't want him,
We won't ex right, listen. Cleveland Browns appeared to have
said to high new coach this offseason, Kevins Stefansk, getting
the Browns appear to destined for a breakup as of Saturday.
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According to Jonathan Jones of CBS Sports, there have been
increasing buzz in recent days that Stefanski will likely be
fired by the Browns. Terry Pluto of the Cleveland dot
Com added, yes, I believe Stefanski will be fired. I
don't know that for a fact. With the Browns, things
can always change. I'd be shocked if the Fanski came back.
My prediction if Andrew Berry remains at the gym, runs
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the draft in twenty twenty six, Thefanski ends up coaching
elsewhere next season.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I mean, you couldn't see this coming. I mean sure
everybody else can see. I know it's a two time
Coach of the Year, but for losing seasons, some of
some of the most some of some of the most
egregious play calling and decision making this year.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Come on that.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
But that's what that's what batho show.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
This notion that somehow you're supposed to have a lifetime contract.
Now we've seen that. Now if you leave Tom Brady,
Tom Brady should have been able to play. Tom Brady
should have been if he wanted to play right now,
he should have been allowed to. But we know that's
not how it works in sports. Look at I get
Look at the Saint Louis Rams. When they're in Saint Louis.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Kurt Warner was a.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Two time league MVP, a Super Bowl MVP, taking the
team to two Super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
They moved on, got Mark Bolger.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Yeah, and ay this business.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Tom Brady as great as he was twenty years, nine
Super Bowl appearances, six wins with four MVPs.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
They don't they don't play no matter who you are.
That's why I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Normally that's reserved for coaches. Ojo a coach Smith a
coach k coach Summitt I have. I had the great
opportunity to meet Coach Summit a couple of times in
New York and she was flying back.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Who's that. Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Normally, if you don't run a file, you don't do
anything crazy. Coach him Beckler stayed as long as he
waned in Michigan. Cooper John I think was Cooper, we
need to coach at Ohio State. But he could have
stayed until they threw that pick in the Gator Bowl
and he swung on gu guy from Clipson.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
It said, cool, you gotta go, You gotta go on
Woody Hayes, Woody Hayes. That's what it was. Coaches. But
for the most part, O Joe, they allow you to stay,
especially in college.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You know, the Rumblinds started getting a little loud uh
for coach Bowden.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
They started getting a little loud for coach Joe Pop
because they felt that he oversaw and he.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Knew things and he allowed it to happen, X, Y
and Z. But for the most part, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
It is the way it is is.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Hey, this is a business, especially in the NFL as players,
you know, fans always preaching all this, be loyal and
all that. Man, listen, man, stop playing them. Folks don't
care nothing about you as long as you as long
as you of a value, value, as long as you
of a value.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Russia what they the service?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I think Emmy played his last two years elsewhere Arizona. Right, Yeah,
that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I read something, oh Joe. They said, you can find
you can tell.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
A woman how loyal a woman is, but if the
man doesn't have any time, you can tell a man
how loyal he is to a woman if he has
everyone time. So you will find out how loyal a
team is to you when you're no longer anybody.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Okay, the way they even Sunday and you talking like.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
That, Come on, man said that what I said, I
don't know idea chat y'all, y'all child man, Women, and
you gonna be lawd to the man if he don't
have anything. Man, will you be law to the woman
if you have everything, because you already know if you
ain't got none, you ain't gonna be able to get
You ain't gonna be able to get with you.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Oh Joe, not today, that's hey, that's a different type
of show.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Okay, one day we have we'll uh uh oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Jalen Suggs has been informed by the NBA he can
no longer wear a headband.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Around his neck.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
I mean, I mean, I like it.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You robs will go ahead and shave all that thing
and let it go.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Wait, hey, oh Joe, he got he got the windows
up on the side.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Young brother got a George Jefferson.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Uh yes, Hold is he how old mister Suggs by
twenty four twenty five career? How is he like twenty
with his hair growing back like that?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yes, it is he is?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Hey, they might he must be. He must have lost
a bet or something. Nah, it ain't no bed because
you see how thin it is on the top. Yeah,
I think it's you must have lost the bed with God.
I think his teammates made him do that. Uh oh yo, No,
that's his hair. His hair is really thinning in the
top like that at twenty four.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Yes, hey, he got to go to Turkey. You know Turkey.
Turkey got the King of tran Oh, they got that Turkey.
I wish they.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I wish they had whatever, whatever method, whatever procedure it
is they have in Turkey.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I wish somebody here in the States did it.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
They have it, But the follicles just costs brill Yes,
so it's the same. All they do is take it
from the back and put it on. I ain't got
That's the only thing.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I got a problem. I ain't even got it in
the back. Well you h well, you definitely don't want
no pubic hair to your.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Head, do you?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
And you know what, I know, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
A chance.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Go with full honestly, honestly, what I would what I
would love to do, I don't know if it's possible.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I would love to grow my beard out right. You
see how you growing yours out? So yours? Your your
stuff is on point.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Every every time I see people talking about your bed,
all the women.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Oh you look good. Oh look at the salt and pepper.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I like this look on you.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
But my mind grow patchy, so mine growing patches it on.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
It don't so it, man, I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
So if I if I had a way to get
some type of procedure like where I can get to
connect where it looked like Rick Ross or like freeway
or like like James Harden.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You know, the hair on your face is different than the.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Hair on your hold just saying listen, if we can
make it to the.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Moon, you might have to go and get that unit.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Hey, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna do the unit
for the but.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
The thing, yeah, you do realize now that's that's that's
blue that they got to stick on your face.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
That's all right, I'm gonna do it for the for
the live show.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
We're going tour.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I'm gonna have Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to
bear with the waves and all with the waves.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah, I'm I'm hey.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Bad o Joe bet you're gonna have uh lint all
in your hair.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Hey, Hey, Hey, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna look every
bitter twenty three two don't play.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Nah, but look, the NBA A the NBA. Look, they're
not finna start this here. The one thing, the NBA
gonna have uniformity, the NFL is gonna have uniformity. Uh MLB.
They'll let you wear your pants. You can wear them
up high, you can wear them down low, whatever the
case may be. But but the NFL, you're not finna
come out there and try to start though.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
And you know, I think, uh, the NBA is a
little bit more lient. I think when it comes to
fashion and and and style based on your dress code.
But yeah, the the wristband around the neck, they're gonna
draw the line there, They're gonna do a line there.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And he eventually he gonna have to be like Lebron.
You see how Lebron just let it go. Lebron say,
I'm tired. He cut it off, he cut it down low. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's basically a skin fade all the way. Hey,
it happened, Bro, So you won't you want a hair
full of hair, so he won't. So so Lebron. So
(27:29):
Lebron want to be able to play, be as great
as he is, play as long as he have, and
thedn't have. Bob Marley dreads God to give you all that.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Damn he can't.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Uh bad, but uh nah, it just happens.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I mean, my brother started losing his hair like in
this probably late twenties, early thirties Hey.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You know what's funny is I cut my hair, but
I can grow a full a full set of hair,
a full head of hair.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
My bad.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I just I don't I don't see how people that
have ways or I don't see I don't see how
they enjoy the maintenance that is. So that's so uh
what's the word I'm looking for. It's such an inconvenience
to me, having to put waves and brush your hair
and put the wave cap. You gotta train your head
to lay down like I ain't got time listen.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I want to.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I want to get up and just go. I don't
want to have to. I don't have to just so
much work for a beard. I did the same thing,
o Yo, it's the same thing. You gotta washing condition
in your beard.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
You gotta put a bill sound you know, conditioner, and
then you gotta put oil.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Time for all that. Man clean me up.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
You know when I got a bald head, when my
face clean, I look avery bit of twenty four.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I look, I look twenty four. You know I still
I still I still get carted. You know which is
I still get carded? So that lets me know I'm
doing something right.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Nah, I I I want to keep it. You know,
once I got what what's today? The third? It's the four, Happy.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Birth the day my mom's birthday, the day, the fourth,
the day, the.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Third today, the fourth, Well, it's the fourth where you are,
it's the third where I am? Uh, the day my
mom's birthday. Happy birthday. You ain't called me back either?
How you how you not gonna call me back? I
call her with you, Happy birthday? You don't call me back?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
How you know? She watching?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
She ain't watching. But I'm just putting on blasts because
she ain't called me back. She probably was in the casino,
Indian or somewhere. She'll call because she ain't get no money.
Oh no, she didn't let me take that back. She
didn't get her money direct deposit hit. So that's why
she ain't called. I should have held out. I get
(29:45):
her to get her to call me. She'd have called
me if I share her. You know my money ain't
hit today.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
That's all right.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I get you, Oh yore talking about man, that's a joke. Nah,
the ain't no joke, O Joe.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
It's just.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Oh, oh Joe, this is gonna be right up to
your alley. Twenty one year old Japanese snowboarder Cocomo.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
They did it.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
She did in twelve sixty.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
She did a sixteen sixty twenty.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
My bad, sixteen twenty.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
This is a trait no woman had ever landed before.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Hey, that's very difficult. That's very they that's very difficult
to do well considered.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You're the first woman to do it. I very listen.
We should we should go snowboarding.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Hey, that's live. You just give me on the board.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Huh, war skateboard, hoverboard, any any kind of board.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
If you don't give me my water, you don't give
me my money. They go see on the water board. Hey, hey,
I feel like, you know, waterboarded.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Hey, that's what the army. That's how they when they
interrogate people.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, that's what. That's where I got it from.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I know how to. I know how to survive that. Huh.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
So when you when you know my face and you
pour water, I didn't drink the water.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
You can't drink that water, your blush, your organs.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
No, No, I know how to.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
You can only drink so much water and see the
thing you e it's gonna be going up your nose too.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
You don't know. I was the Navy seal. I trained.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I trained with taking seals for six months, and I
learned how if I was kidnapped and interrogated, how how
it can survive the waterboarding.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Guess what you need to be a real seal to
be able to hold your breath for thirty minutes under water?
Damn the Navy seal. You need to be a real seal.
Congratulations cold man, Now, oh Joe, this it's cold man.
(31:46):
I don't like being cold man.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Come on, man, every every everything we do don't have
to be you know, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Just man, you have got old when you get all
out your you don't deal the cold.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Well I'm not as you stay your black ass in Miami.
I love the Colo.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Anything out of twenty three you don't love it enough
anything under twenty degree.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Signed me up for it. Moved to Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
What about my kids.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Moved and with you? You say they stayed with you before? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, I'm ticking everybody to court. I want custody.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Well you have to do what you old French fries
she in Dubai. You know he just turned full.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah you had it for Christmas. Yow.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
You had supposed to be me on a birthday because
I had plans for us on a birthday and she
got there.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
In Dubai, oh Yo. You can't get every holiday.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I can at nine months. I I nine months. I
can I carry that nine months?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Okay, I appreciate that. But when you go to a judge,
he gonna alter their holidays. He gonna alternate birthday.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Because I want full custody.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I'm on full.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Custody, but I ain't playing. I'm ready to go to war.
I'm ready to go to the war by my left
frond fry.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
How do you understand how egregious a mother has to
be for the court system to give over a full
custody to the farm.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Do you understand the hurdle you got?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Understand?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I understand I probably ain't gonna win, but I just,
I just I just want to go through it. I
just want to go through it, letting let her know
I ain't playing by mine.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
The only person that's gonna be happy that you're doing
that is the attorney. Cut the bill.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
If you ain't got your you think they're gonna get their.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Huh oh yeah, yeah, they put a lien on, they
put a yeah, they put Oh Joe, it's time to
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Speaker 4 (33:59):
I can't wait till the ain't tomorrow BRN.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Miles Garrett zero point seventy five sacks. Miles Garrett will
have a sack tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yes, Miles Garrett will get the sack record. Matter of fact,
he might get to tomorrow. I'm just I don't want
to get against my Bengals. I don't want them to
make history against us. But he probably will do it.
And the fact that I'm getting a jersey that he
gets the sack record in that makes me feel even better.
I was supposed to fly to the game. Man, I
missed my he I thought you was going to the
(34:33):
game like this morning. Then I say, man, forget that.
I ain't going. I ain't gonna because I'm tired. I
just got back from the Bahamas. I slept all day
on Friday.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I was like, nah, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I'm good. I gotta travel to Brazil. I gotta travel
to Brazil. The twelfth, tough the fourteenth, Like you know what,
Let me get as much rest as I can not
jump on the plane, then have to fly back to Miami,
then jump on the plane twelve to the.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Four thirteenth or what January, we got to be in
New York and Jah on the elevel through the.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Oh so it's the fourteenth through the sixteenth. Oh, but
the thing is on the twelfth, right the thirteenth, Well.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
You got the day's wrong.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
You got the days wrong. You say level through the fourteenth.
We got to be with the uh Tyler shuk two
hundred and thirty two passing yards.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
More or less.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
They playing that the Falcons.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Playing the dirty bird.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Hey, the way the way.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
The Falcon got after way that Falcon den get out
of the quarterback staff. Yeah, man, they they made staff
look like like I I don't want to say nothing
bad because he played well all season long outside of
that game. But if they can play the way they
played against the goddamn Rams, I don't see him getting No.
Two thirty two chrys Olivey not playing.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Okay, we're going last. Then Brian Thomas more than three receptions.
Brian Thomas will have at least four receptions.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's tough.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I mean, every everything ben so up and down. It's
been my committee with that offense over there, man.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yep, because now you got uh Jakobe Myers playing well strange.
The tight end has been playing well, oh I got
part watching well?
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Yeah, uh throw the A ten.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna say he has four?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
You think so okay?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Listen if Riley Leonard, who will start for the uh
Indianapolis coachs will have less than one hundred and sixty
three yard who the.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Coach playing on.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
The Jags?
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Man, Man, you finna get hisself killed out there, man,
And that's with all due respect, You're finna get his
self killed, especially if they can't get goddamn Jonathan Taylor going.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah, they played the tax Oh oh, he definitely not
get They play the Taxans. What do you call him?
The Jags play the coach old Jacks play? Who did
Jack play?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
The Titans? Okay? Titans?
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Okay, ain't looking good?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, roder Leondard not getting that way.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Jaguars or the Texas, He wasn't getting it either way.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Twenty five dollars to win one hundred and twenty five
dollars downloaded after today, use coach Shannon to get fifty
dollars in lineups after you play your first five dollars
lineup prize fixed. It's good to be right. All right,
we're gonna get out of here on this. Oh Joe,
it's time for our final segment, the evening. It's time
for Q and A A. Oh, I'll wait to just
(38:02):
go back.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I got one. You know you you grew up in
the country. I grew up on a farm.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I did so.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Since you know about farming and stuff like that, you
know about cows.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
How does the farmer? What does the farmer use the
countess cows?
Speaker 1 (38:24):
What did he use the normally put tag? Yeah, what
do you mean not what the farmer uses? What do
you use?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I do.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Somebody? You get it?
Speaker 4 (38:56):
A calculator?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yes, I was a goog without that's a good one.
Oh that was a classic.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Hey, I forula. Gave me a Netflix special for dad
jokes man. Yeah, hey, a Netflix special straight dad jokes.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Oh that was funny. Jags played, Okay, Jags played the
text Tad played the Titans in Houston played the Colts.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I don't know why I was thinking the Jags will
go play. Oh they played the Colts last week. Keep
it off with JR. Man, Oh Jr. Highlights are more
excited than the forty nine Ers defense man. The forty
nine ers didn't have it tonight. They didn't. They did
not have it tonight. Give the give the the Seahawks
credit their defense. Their offense was clicking on all cylinders.
(39:59):
And and Sam Donald didn't turn the football over. They're
gonna be a tough out. They're gonna be a tough out.
He preak nine day, Oh Joe, Happy birthday the French fry.
Would you, gentlemen, please wish my daughter Lemia a happy birthday?
She turned six. My girls loved you guys. Whenever the
show comes on, they scream, hey, Dad, oh Joe and
them are on. Yes, Lamia, Happy six birthday. Hopefully you
(40:23):
have some fun cake, ice cream, some balloons. You got
an opportunity to go to Chuck e Cheese, do all
the fun things that little six year old girls love
to do. Gotta makeup kid, got some dolls, easy bakeove
and I don't even know they make easy bacovers anymore,
but if they did, hopefully you got one. Happy sixth birthday, Lamia,
Happy you infamous the number one seed baby. Also, Sam
(40:48):
Donald didn't turn the ball over once. If you continue
to play like this, you're absolutely right. That's the only
thing that really concerns me. Scares me about you guys,
is that he has twenty turnovers. Turn the ball over
the playoffs. You know, Eagles Bears play forty nine to
play the Rams again. Probably gonna go home because even
(41:10):
if it's not a scooping score, you might you might
you know, take points off the board, or you might
sit put your defensive arms away by setting the deposing
offense up on a short field.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Go Birds eight hundreds.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
So the Eagles don't have a defense either, bro, Please,
Seattle got a good offense and Philly got a good defense.
Both defense are playing all time high. I trust my
quarterback over salam. Yeah, when your quarterback's played well, but
he hadn't played well this year.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
And you never know what. Listen that the Eagles this year,
they've been up and down. They've been uping, inconsistent. You
don't know which offense you will get. Defense has been
steady the whole time, but you just.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Never know what offense you can get depending on who
you play.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
And if you're playing the Seahawks, which has a really
good defense, that's where the difficulties come into play.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Where what Eagles offense am I going to get today?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
And the Eagle's offensive line, No Lane John. I don't
know if Lane John's is gonna be back. I don't know,
maybe they activate him or whatever the case may be.
But the offensive line has not been as dominant. They
haven't been able to run the football. And I don't
know if you can keep if you can keep them
guys off you if you can't run the football. And
we saw that tonight Party was under immense pressure because
they had no ability to run the football with McCaffrey
(42:24):
and Robinson. So you got your work cut out for it.
But hey, if that matchup were to happen, I look
forward to it. Oh choe for Miami tourism.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Here.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
My wife and I checked out the my Chi restaurant
on your recommendation, and it was affordable and an absolute blast.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
I told you, I told you anything.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Listen, anything I asked you to do when you come
to Miami is going to be affordable because I live
way below my means. Therefore, our lifestyles are completely the same.
So when it comes to having a good time, I'm
always gonna give you things that you can enjoy.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
The Micai chef's kiss.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
So next time you come back, I got some more
places you gotta try that are a blast.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Shook for offensive Rookie of the Year. Up.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
What do you think about my Saints drafting Jeremiah Love
with the first pick and O Jo, I'll give you
the belt in Madden or College Football twenty six?
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, I think you look, they gonna get a running back. Now.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I don't know if they're gonna take one in the
first round, but they're gonna get a running back out
of this draft.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Who though they might be one available. Who knows.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Javonte Williams if the Cowboys don't re sign him, he'll
be available. He'll be a nice pick. There would be
some guys Rico o'dowdell. We'll see what Carolina does with him.
All that being said, I don't know if they'll taking
running back in the first round, but they're definitely gonna
get a running back. I don't see a scenario where
Alvin Kamara is back. They need a running back. Probably
(43:57):
get an offensive lineman. There're some look Saints they're like,
look the way we're playing. I believe they think they
got their quarterback. O shoe, they got a lobby, they
got Jawanja Johnson, get a running back, offensive line they
might be in biz. They might be in biz. Hey,
oh Joe, when are the podcast Olympics and where we
(44:18):
see Johnny at quarterback? Hopefully you read this, otherwise I'll
beat up, Oh Joe love the show? Are we looking
at late late spring?
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Early So it's gonna be so a listen. That's gonna
be one for the ages.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Boy O g underscored Thanos twenty six. Will the Panthers
pick up Bryce young fifth year option and in this
game where Brandon IU would have made an impact.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Yes, I think that's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
They're more app to pick up the fifty option instead
of making a long term two hundred fifty three hundred
million dollar commitment. Let's let's see, let's see if you
can play. He had some positive sense that had some
some lows. I mean, he threw for two sixty six today,
not bad given those conditions. But he's had a four
hundred yard game. He's he's played extremely well in spots
(45:11):
this year. Let's let's let's let's let this thing play out.
I mean, it's not like twenty six million dollars. This
chump change.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
I mean, listen, listen, chump change based on what the
top quarterbacks are making up.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Correct, But like you said, you don't believe he the
top quarterback, so he shouldn't command that.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
No, he's safe thirty thirty five.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, I mean I don't think. I don't think either
one of us have him in the top fifteen.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
No, but he's good for the Carolina Panthers. He's good
for what they're trying to do. All they have to
do is continue to build piece around him. They gonna
be all right.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Caleb Robinson sixty six or five Seattle defense is insational.
Happen for Sam Donald finally won a big game. Love
this show, Thank you guys. Yes he needed this one.
Look he put together because he did, you know, remember
what he did to the Rams on that Thursday night,
came back, made some big time throws, turned the ball over,
but he made some big time throws. But this was
the game, because this was for the number one seed
(46:09):
and the division. So uh, he.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Put the bed. That's the thing, you know, you don't
put You put it to bed.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
But it's not over because guess what got the playoffs
and he got to perform in those situations as well. Dan,
They handed man it up if o Cho and to
did a full NFL combat right now?
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Who would win me?
Speaker 4 (46:32):
T O A t O and shade too bo. You
know played baseball full time.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
You know what I heard him say that.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
He tell you he take it. I'm serious, serious.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
But that's all that's all to know how to do.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
He ain't gonna do nothing that he take half fast.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
He's gonna do anything. Uh, you played pickle ball.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
I played pickleball. But you know I'm a I'm a
soccer guy. On the weekends, I played. I play soccer
like you know football field, our regular field. I play
on the big field.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah, I play off top.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
I'm the striking Sometimes I play on the wing.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Garb Morele eighteen eighty two, which is better. If the
Saints lose to the Panthers, go in. But if the
Bucks win, go in. But if the Saints win, Shook
and the replacements or the Saints and NFC easily South,
the Saints can't make the playoffs. It's between It's between
Carolina and Tampa. So there's nothing the Saints can do
that can get into the playoffs. If the Saints win
(47:32):
at Carolina goals. If the Saints lose, Tampa goes. Those
are the only two scenarios, bro, I'm sorry ts card
wise detail NFL MVP right now. Yeah, I would say
yokies too, but he's gonna miss too many games. He's
not gonna He's gonna probably be under the sixty five
(47:53):
game threshold.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
So you can't win.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
You can't win MVP, you can't get any all honors
or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
They're gonna win it. Then I could tell you that
he right.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
Probably Sha Shay gonna win it again, right right?
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Okay, Yeah, the Bucks need the Saints to win. If
the Saints win, the Bucks are in. If the Falcons win, Uh, Carolina.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
You know Carolina gonna be in.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
So that's a man. You know that that's a matchup
a They don't love it yet. Man, you don't have
about each other each other bands for Zion.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Cliff gotta go DC, see out of there. The Cliffy
that one day five Kingsbury now command this fourteen personnel
one running back for a tight ends no wide receivers. Apologize.
I mean you've been hearing that a lot lately. But look,
Cliff can only do so much. JD gotta stay healthy.
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He's another favorite of a thread framed quarterback, but he's got.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
To stay here. His rookie year, he stayed healthy. They
went to the game. This year he was in and
out of the lineups.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Mariota is a good backup, but you're not going anywhere
with marioda.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
PJ.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Eleven og from the Ravens fan another. Please help me
understand how the defense is so bad when they go
crazy uh eight in practicing training camp, bring me floor
Reds or Jesse Minder Gift hard by the boot.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
They can't rush the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
And when you can't rush the quarterback, your back in
is not that good, not that good to write home
about anyway, So now it gets exacerbated.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Yeah, and that.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
They're tied in front four back four. They work hand
in hand, and right now the front four is not
good enough.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
Yep, it don't matter who coaching that.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
That coaching can also revap the old line D line
and get another corner or two. Marlon Humphrey not cutting
it no more. Yeah, he's struggling. I mean, look, he
slowed down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Injury. The lordle getting nicked here and there. That's a
big salary.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
I don't know if they bring him back at that number,
it might be a situation where they can meet in
the middle and find work something out. But they definitely
got to get past rushers. That's what they need. They
need more than they need that Kyley one, two, three four.
I'm still not in praised. I'm still not impressed with
Bryce Young's arm.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
I think it's arms out of think.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah, ain't nothing Roman his arm. He ain't no Josh Allen,
He ain't Aaron Rodgers. He ain't Brett fob. He can
get the ball and put he he can throw his
receivers open. I know tonight, that goddamn out rug to McMillan.
It's late, it's late, it's late, it's late and behind.
And every time that's that interception pick you got the
you got to throw him open.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
Now again, it's raining.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
The conditions are bad, so I'm giving a little race
on that because the ball is much heavier in that weather.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
But yeah, yeah, he don't have no doubt. You can't
you can't be and you can't be late. Use a
O seven cam dresses like a bisexual Willy Wonker. I
you know what these guys today, they they spend more
time worried about what other men wear. Y'all ain't got
(51:26):
to be with them while y'all, But I wouldn't buy that. No,
you wouldn't because you're not in the situation that you're
gonna afford the designer stuff. Now, Cam shops at thrift shops.
Cam ain't buy it, really, cam all over.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
Yeah, you got his own you got his own style.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
But but why did they bother y'all what another man wears. Yeah, okay,
you wouldn't wear it. Okay, fine, you don't have to
buy it. I'm I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
There are a lot of things you say people wouldn't
do until you got money. I'm sure when jay Z
was growing up in the Marshie projects, ain't no way
in hell he said He's spend one hundred million dollars
for a house, or Beyonce when you was going up
in Houston. Most people, because our mind won't allow us
to think of spending one hundred, two hundred thousand dollars
for a car, or spending one two, three, five ten
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or whatever a million for a house, because our mind
wouldn't let us comprehend that.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Mm hm.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
You never know what you'll do until you're in that.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Action, until you're in that situation. I would like everybody
saying that if you had that money. It's hard for
me to believe if you had ten, fifteen, twenty million dollars,
you're gonna live in the exact place that you live,
You're gonna drive the exact same type of car that
you drive, and you're gonna address the exact same type
of way. I just refuse to believe it. I refuse
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to believe it unless you cheap this, mister jed Li
twenty seven h Why does the critics from former players
always turned into a professional fight after disagreement? Sante just
did this recently, y'all were talking about Prime and t
T Step turned to an argument. Yeah, you're right, and
(53:14):
that's the thing I'm looking at. I'm listening at what
he said. And the thing is is that and that's
why you know O choo ta said. Look, let them
say whatever they want to say.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
Me.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
I really didn't want to really talk, really want to
talk about this because I don't really like injecting myself
because oh you and Cam y'all boy, y'all taking you
taking side.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
I ain't taking no side. I look at it like this.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Sante liked the T step time didn't okay the T
step worked great for Sante. He went the Pro Bowls.
I think he was an All Pro, he won Super Bowls.
Prime didn't believe in the T step. I just believe
Time is the greatest corner never played. Okay, just because
something worked for one doesn't mean it it shouldn't work
(54:01):
for the other. I mean, look, I'm a I'm a
big arm over guy. Gronk was a collision guy because
Gronk can get separation. Gronk was bigger than I was,
and it was gonna be hard because when he bumps
into you a semi bumping into a boss wagon, it's
gonna knock it off balance. Well, I wasn't big as
those other guys. So now, unless it's a dB but
live backers on Joe, I'm arm over, I'm not let
(54:24):
I'm not trying to collide with you. I'm not playing
bumper cars. That's not my game. So you're right. So
when you look at the T step versus what and
and and and you know, and that was the thing, Like, look,
I disagreed with a Sante and I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
Said, like, bro, you talk about the uh arguing.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
You know his stats against Time, and I think the
thing is for me, I was like, Bro, they threw
at you, they didn't throw it time. I mean time
sometimes could put the uniform hanging uniform right back up
in his locker and it'll be clean because he ain't
make no tackles because they weren't gonna throw it to
the guy he was covering. But I agree with you,
(55:06):
Jet Life and and and that's the thing. I was
just like, I'm done with it, y'all. Have you got
your opinion, You could have your opinion. You don't think
this guy was good. You don't think that guy was good.
Let's just keep it to I'm gonna I'm gonna critique
what you said to teach step work fore he was
great at it. Time didn't believe in it, and he
wouldn't teach it. I'm sure if se had a dB camp,
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he would teach to teach them because he knows it.
It worked for him. Arm Over worked for me. Bumper
cars wasn't gonna work for me unless it was a
corner a six foot eight aquarius. You don't have to
be a better quarterback than the next to talk about
the position. I trust Romo analysis overcame based on how
(55:51):
he comments on the game well, let me tell you
how he comments on the game because his job requires
him to watch, to watch the game, and to be
to talk. Cam would have to get used to talk.
Because here's the thing. There's a difference between talking about
what will happen, what has happened as supposed what is happening.
That's the difference. Troy Romo, Brady Olson, Collinsworth. They're talking
(56:17):
in real time. It's a lot more difficult than you
think I talk about. I used to talk about what
I think is gonna happen. Then I started talking about
what has happened. They're talking about it in real actual time.
And you got to only talk in five six seconds.
(56:38):
When you're on cable television, Oh Joe, we can talk
for at least thirty five forty seconds, maybe.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Even in to a minute.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
You don't get that luxury in real time. So there's
a difference. And Romo has gotten really good. I guess
he's gotten good. I've never heard Romo.
Speaker 4 (56:54):
Yeah, he's good. He's good.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
I like, but I just know.
Speaker 2 (56:59):
I just know how they have to do it and
what they have to do, and it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
That is the hardest one talking about.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
I'm giving you an opinion about what I think is
gonna happen in the game, won't you. I think this
team is gonna win, and blah blah blah blah. Okay,
this team won. Let me tell you why I think
they won. Joe, I think right here in this formation
they like to do this. Oh, hey, Jim, and this point. Hey,
this defense. This is the area of the field they
like to run. Hey, they like to run zero blitz.
(57:28):
Talk about stuff in real time. So it's a lot
difficult than you think, mister jed Lie thirty two thousand
yards and seventy five rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
How is that not game changing? I guess he had.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
I guess he u to cut off his thirty five
thousand yards and one hundred rushing touchdowns. I don't know,
mister Matt, I don't know. Chris Et Campbell was never
a game changer. Defense carried him to a Super Bowl.
Defense gave him starting field position around the forty four
yard mark. There's been a lot of teams. There are
(58:01):
a lot of teams that had great defenses. You don't
hold that against Terry Bradshaw. You remember Steve Curtin. Joe
Green's in the Hall of Fame. Mel Blunt in the
Hall of Fame. Jack Lambert is in the Hall of Fame.
Jack hamp is in the Hall of Fame. Donnichelle is
in the Hall of Fame. L. C. Greenwood is on
the commit That six guys on the defense. Now you
(58:21):
tell me another defense. No, he wasn't to steeve curtain.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
But guys, we gotta stop trying to find a way
to discredit somebody.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
Everybody had help. Elway had help, Montana had help, Brady
had help, Bradshaw had help.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
Lebron had help, Jordan had help, Kobe had help.
Speaker 1 (58:53):
It is okay.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
But everybody, every great player is not gonna win a
championship in their said sport. And that's okay to Championships
are supposed to be hard because that they weren't. What's
the value in it? If everybody won. I thought we
didn't like participation awards.
Speaker 4 (59:16):
We complained about giving kids.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
We tell you, so, if if everybody, if every everybody
got to go and win the Super Bowl, if everybody
got to go into the Hall of Fame, so what's
special about it?
Speaker 1 (59:30):
Then?
Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah, I guess Look, we gotta just I guess we
just have a different opinion for for game changes. Okay,
mister Jedlight, just because Cam didn't jump on that fumble
doesn't mean y'all get the ship on their career. But
that's what they do, and that's what happens. Bill Billy Bukner.
(59:57):
Go back and look at Billy Buckner's career. All they
talked about is the ball that went through his legs.
That's what they talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
The good.
Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Uh uh? Mark after this speech about Julius Caesar, he said,
the good that a man does is buried, the bad
lives on.
Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
That's what happened, is the truth.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Now, had Cam come back and won a Super Bowl
because guess what what do people talk about? People don't
talk about all those victories and all those young What
do people talk about with Russ Oh Joe?
Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Yeah, an interception on the gold line to win the game.
Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
He did win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Now, had he flipped did that first and then the
Super Bowl next?
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
But this is what they remember.
Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Zero five forty shout out. I met you when you
were playing at Savannah State. You came to my school
and spoke and that was in eighty nine. I still
remember much love appreciate you, bro, Mike, Mike one hundred.
Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
What's up on, O Joe? Should the Browns just rush
borrow every place?
Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
On my love the pod, keep it up. No, he's
gonna rush every play. He's gonna get funny forty rush attempts.
But I think the thing else. Look, Chase Brown has
been running the ball extremely well, O Joe, So I
think I'll sprinkle some runs and now I'm gonna run
the ball.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
I gotta try to slow him down somehow.
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
I've got to try to stay out of thirty long
or second a long.
Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
I want to make it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
I want to be in as as many third and
second and shorts as I possibly can, so he doesn't
know if it's a run or pass. Thirty ten you
running the football, thirty thirteen you run the football, second
and thirteen fourteen to fifteen you throwing the football. U.
(01:02:00):
Michael Irvin been getting heat for his sideline antics. What's
your opinion of his antics? That's Mike, So let me
ask you a question.
Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
What is he doing? What he's always done? That's always
been Mike, that's nothing new.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
But I'm just trying to figure out what he's doing.
Mike is very animated. He love to you, He loves
to you. He loves his team. His team is playing
extremely well. He's always been like he liked that with
the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Hell, he was like that when he was playing thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
But that's who he is. That's who he is. I
love it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
If San Francisco win the Super Bowl, Brandon, are you
getting a ring? I don't know, I know getting a run?
Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
If they do win the super Bowl, he ain't gonna
want no damn ring. He ain't even want to God,
damn money back. Hey's speaking of Michael Irving. But hey,
it's a video of Elmo, you know Elmo, right, yeah,
and he partying with some uh like with some frat boys,
(01:03:16):
hey somebody, and they are saying this, this, this, and
they comparing it to Michael Irvin.
Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
That is so funny.
Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Chat y'all, y'all know the video talking about with l
Mo partying with the and they comparing them to comparing
it to Michael Irvin. Somebody got to send that send
that dog man dog I'm talking about hilarious.
Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
I think I'm gonna go watch that. Uh that Netflix
thing on Charlotte Chevy Chase. Is't that on Netflix? Just
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
I saw.
Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Lord have mercy chevy Chase. Wait for the actor, yes,
comedian actor, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Damn chevy Chase. One Chevy Chase from Harriet and Henderson's
not maybe maybe maybe.
Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
He National Lampoon didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
National Lampoon Vacation. Yeah he do comedy too.
Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Yeah, yeah a comedian.
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The Seattle Seahawks will be the number one seed thanks
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forty nine ers.
Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
The Buccaneers.
Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
They beat the Carolina Panthers, but they still need They
need the Saints to lose.
Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
If Atlanta wins Carolina goals, if the Saints wins Tampa goals,
so there are Baker said he wasn't gonna root for
the Bucks.
Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
I mean for the Saints because you don't like them.
Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
But I think deep down inside he want to make
the playoffs. That's probably little to send him money in
that for him, so I think secretly he's gonna be
rooting for the Saints. But again, thank you guys for
joining us. We're back tomorrow, Hey Steelers, another matchup for
the division title. Steelers ravens Lamar Aaron Rodgers, two former
(01:06:35):
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We'll see you tomorrow after the game.
Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
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