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October 13, 2025 72 mins

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Baker Mayfield’s MVP Season campaign, Tua gets caught snitching on his head coach Mike McDaniel, Ravens season slipping away and Joe Flacco can’t save the Bengals!

0:00 - Anthony Richardson Hurt on his day off9:48 - Baker for MVP 17:35 - Tua Snitching35:00 - Ravens in bad shape 55:20 - Can't help Them! + Pats

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, Joe, I don't know if you've ever heard of
something like this, but it happened during the Colts pregame
warm up warm up. Anthony Richards Richardson fractured his orbital
bone when he had an issue with a rubber leg band.
So you know how you're doing the stretch banduff like that,
And I guess if I'm not mistaken. If I'm not mistaken, Chad,

(00:25):
you can correct me. I think there was a situation
where rest his soul. Congressman Harry Reid had a very
similar situation using.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
An exercise band.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
It snapped, popped him in the eye, and I think
he lost the vision in the eye. Then, to make
matters worse, Tradavious War was warming up on the field.
He collided with Drew Ogletree. Some of the concussion he
missed the game.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Hey, have you seen somethingggas happen before? No, I've never
seen nothing like that happen before. Now, the band and
the stretching and it pops. I understand that. I understand
that now that now that can happen because it's happened
to me before, but not to where you know it.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Right in the face.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
But hey, depends on what band you're using. You know,
you know they got the thick bands, they have the
thin band.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah yeah, how much.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
But they have the little you know, the ones that
they have for pt not no, not no, like wait,
the band you know that we attached that were attached
to the bar bells and stuff like that to get
extra tention. These are the bands that they you know,
you know, you be stretching to do it like that,
and you see you see the guys like loosening up
with it.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I thought he broke us over the bone.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah it's it's snap.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, those little pet bands can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, well that's what did it?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Okay, damn.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
That's that's unlucky man.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
But but to think about how how many times you
know people have been using those distress wow yeah give
yeah uh oh joe. You know you know you get
the medicine balls, oh shoe, and you slam them down
and some of them are bounced up to you and
some of you have to bend down.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Pick up man.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Were in class one day and this lady got one
that he didn't realize it that they were doing to
bounce hit it right the note she slammed it and
stood over it. I bet if they hit in the
face about four times, about four or five times. Oh Joe, oh.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh oh the lady.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
You ain't gonna help them.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
But no, I was like, I was like, this here,
m because it's something like you see in the cartoon. Man,
you know how the cartoon's doing, and that's how it was,
but it was real life. I was like, oh my goodness,
Oh and.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Man. What'd you call them?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Anthony Richardson got buzzled, man, Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
You got I mean, do you understand how unlucky that
you have to be for something like that to happen.
I mean, you hear stuff like that happened, Joe. You
know you read like such and such happening, because I remember,
like I said, I think Congressman Harry Reid had something
very similar to happen. But he was like elderly. He's
probably like eighty years old, eighty eighty five years old,

(03:45):
maybe even older when that happened.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
But a young man something happened like that.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Man, Gosh, I'm trying. I'm trying to listen. Obviously I
wasn't there. I wasn't there to see it. I'm just
confused on what exercise you might have been doing, what
stretch you might have been doing for that to be
even be possible.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
You know, he might have been.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Right, that's right, okay.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
And then you know, like you said, maybe it was
one of those one of those bigger bands.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know. The funny thing about it is when it pops,
you don't know what's gonna pop, and you don't have
the quick titch, the quick quick twitch fibers to be
able to react fast enough.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Oh no, no, no, that thing is before you only you
only react after it doesn't happen. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Just thought of that, just thinking about that.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Damn hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
And man, so hopefully anth Richardson, you know, I you know,
I'm telling that's that's pain. I fractured my orbital so
I know the pain, man. It felt like a you know, well,
the doctor said it was like if I was in
a bar fight and somebody kicked me in the eye.
So I had a complete orbit. I had a complete
blowout of the orbital floor because your eye sits in

(05:05):
my socket floor. My floor was completely gone. So my
eye dropped like three and a half. So they have
to go in there. So that's why it's really hard.
You know, I'm constantly like my nose because I got
a plate. I got a carbon fiber plate. My eyes
actually sitting on the carbon fiber plate.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Hey, this is interesting.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
You know, most most high end, most high end vehicles
have carbon fiber, you know, on the outside and kits.
And you got it in here. Okay, okay, okay, you fast.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Got that.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
But the only thing is man, and the thing was
O Joe, you know, had I was congested. My sisters said, man,
you ought to use a natty pot. I said, what's
the natty pot? It's like a netty pot where you
pull pull water, saline water, salt water up one nostril
and let it.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
You know, you tried it.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Got infected, The bacteria got caught, got caught in that mesh.
Looked like somebody somebody somebody pointing in the eye. I
closed up. I ain't know what I oh, Joe, it
got so in fact that I ended up.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I ended up. I ended up having a mercer. I
was in the I was in I was in the
hospital for like four days. Damn. Then they sent me
home with a pick line.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
I was getting a thousand, I was getting a thousand
over a thousand milligrounds. I was doing like two bags
of IV of just antibiotics, bank of Myson, so a
pick line. So I got the thing in the pole
riding around and it going straight, going straight in there.
To try to getting up out of there and cleared
it up. It took me like two weeks to get
over it. Got another cold, closed back up. Went to

(06:57):
the doctor. He says, we're gonna have to change this late.
He said, don't ever use He said, don't ever use
the natty pot again. He said, you got I gotta
be careful. If I blow my nose, my nose, my
nose will start bleeding.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Hey, this is interesting to me. You damn you like RoboCop?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, I am.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
You go through the metal detective. Does that? Does it
go off? Or no?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Uh no it doesn't go off.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
But I got the artificial helps and they always you know.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
You like you, like you like a cipher word.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, I like that. That's dope. All I know is
that every time I go off and they, uh, they
said that little bitch you call them.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Uh they showed a little writ mister sharp you uh
as you can see right there.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
I say, yeah, I know, so they gotta.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Hey, I don't, Okay, I like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Man I had I had a bad bad Hey, well
I was messed up, man, I was messed up. Daniel
Jones finished twenty two or thirty to twelve two touchdowns
there exception, and he gets credit for a fourth quarter
game when he drive when he helped engineer a nine
play sixty six yard drive that ended with a decisive
touchdown with four thirty two remaining. Only two quarterbacks have

(08:11):
led coach to five wins through six weeks since two thousand.
Peyton Manning and Dan.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
You believe, I don't.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
I don't know when I talk about quarterbacks, and I say,
situation matters where you go, your environment, the weapons around you.
Ask some people say, oh, coaching matters, Well, listen, coaching
only matters when you have players like this, the situation
that Baker Mayfield in, the situation that Sam Donald is
in again for the second time, obviously, the situation in Minnesota.

(08:42):
Now you see what he's doing over in Seattle, and
now Dane Jones going from the New York Giants which
wasn't going well, and what he's doing now and goddamn Indy.
It needs to be studied. It needs it needs to
be studied. And it's so important not going high in
the draft. Forget what number you go, but going to
the right situation where you go. It's all about where

(09:05):
you go, and it's.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
More important where than how how?

Speaker 3 (09:09):
And Daniel Jones is showing that, he's showing.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
That he's played unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Uh, Indiana Jones has been great. Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
He's parlayed himself into a he's gonna have. He's gonna
get a big payday. He's gonna get a giant question.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
The funny thing about it is, is he's gonna get
a huge payday. Are the Coats going to The Coats
are going definitely going to be the team to keep him,
because now he's auditioning for everybody us come back as well.
You know that, right, he's auditioning for other teams that
might be in need of a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
They're not the building. We got it.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
I'm just making sure he's definitely getting that bag.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Mm hm oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
The Bucks beat the forty nine ers thirty to nineteen.
Baker through two touchdown passes and had a spectacular scramble
fans said serenaded him with MVP chance and many were
still hailing Bay Baker as he left the stadium.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
The injury.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Reddal forty nine has lost four time All Pro linebacker
corner to a dislocated right ankle. Kyle Shanahan said he
the ankle was broken and dislocated and he'll need season
ending surgery. Baker seventeen of twenty three two fifty six
two touchdowns. H Booka left the ball game, so he's

(10:25):
playing without his four top receivers. Hey, Bucky Irving is
top running back and he's still doing that right now.
He's the MVP front runner. I know it's only six
weeks into the season. It's his look, it's his.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Is his to lose the way Baker Mayfield is playing
right now, he's playing the best, the best football at
the quarterback position with no Mike Evans, no Chris Godwin. Obviously,
Buckie Irving goes down, Booker goes Buka goes out the
day with a Hampshire injury, and he still doesn't miss
a beat. In the past and.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Played a couple of games without Christian Tristan.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yes, yes, the awesome, awesome, one of the better left
tackles in today's game. Well, hey, Baker Mayfield again, situations matter.
Oh my goodness, he's playing good.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's better o yoe to let guys be themselves. I
think that's why a lot of guys have success in
Baltimore because they don't try to change it. Whoever you are,
all we want you to do is play hard. If
you like to talk, talk, if you want to be quiet, hey,
ain't nobody gonna talk to you. Whatever you like to do,
whoever you are, we want you to be more of that.

(11:35):
And see Baker, this is who Baker is, Tampa. Say
you lead if you want a joke, and you want
to die, and you want to dance, you want to.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Do Did you see him after he had that scramble run,
when he escaped the pocket, when the sideline came back in.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Got up.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
All I can think about was when you put that
goddamn flag in the middle of.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
The flag, played the flag and uh yeah, man.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's that's your Okay, that's the Baker Mayfield I want
to love. You know, quarterback position, they have to carry
themselves a certain way. They have to be almost political
robots in a sense. He's one of the few that
does not abide by that rule.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
He's a very he's a very emotional guy. But he
can play out throw the football and so and it
doesn't matter who's in there. He's gonna, Hey, I'm gonna
get you the football. He like they said, Look, there
are a couple of guys. Sam Donald is in that
discussion for m v P. Sam Donald is playing extremely well.
Obviously Mahome's gonna be somewhere loafer landing around because I

(12:37):
think Mahomes probably have how many touchdowns the interceptions does
Mahomes have?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Ash But he's playing extremely well.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
But shaking baks, shaking bake doing his thing. Man, And
and see, you know, uh, somebody that believes in you,
somebody that wants you.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
At the end of the day, we all want to
be wanting. If you in a.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Relationship, you want, you want to know that your partner
wants to be with you.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
You want. I ain't saying you got to tell me
every day, but.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
They got to let you go. You know, I'm glad
you said that. And I know we talking football right now,
and that that resonated with me right now because sometimes
we unsure, because sometimes we have to ask, you know,
and yeah, excuse me, miss, do you want me? You sure? Okay? Cool? Okay, yeah, yeah,

(13:28):
I think everything's okay. Yeah, appreciate it. I'm glad you
just said that, man, because sometimes fellas at home, like
if just you need to ask and make sure you
know how the bucks want. Baker Mayfield, does your woman
at home and your girlfriend or whoever you see, and
do they allow you to be yourself so you can
be your best version of you? You know, because when

(13:49):
you're a best version of you, you get what you
get with Baker Mayfield. So if you feel like you're
in prison and you're not free, you know, to be
able to blossom and bloom like yourself, you need to
ask that question.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Okay, you just wanted some Sometimes you just want to
be appreciated. Sometimes I just just tell me, say you
know what.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you didn't tell me you appreciate me.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
I just I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
You appreciate me? Oh, thank you? Yeah, she appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's that's I Look, I ain't big. I ain't. I'm
big on the affirmation.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
That's my thing, and and and and that's that's how
I operate. And Baker, he just wanted to be appreciated.
Let me look, I'm not gonna put you in harm's way.
Yeah I'm not, but but I'm gonna. And you know,
I think, look those progressive commercials. I think the thing

(14:48):
is with that, you know, I think progressive is based
in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
He's the quarterback of the Browns.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Now he's basically don't really commercials I see now, I
don't know what they do local, but don't really commercial
that I see nationally is the Heisman House, you see.
And he does a great job those guys. I mean,
that's a family, that's a brotherhood. Uh, there's only X
amount of those guys that they do a great job.
But I think he's really focused. You know, he doesn't
forget anything, yeah at all. And and Clive, you got

(15:17):
rid of me? Can you imagine letting us man like
he went in the MVP like y'all had the m
v P. Y'all had this, but y'all didn't believe in me.
Y'all said, y'all want to grown up. I guess I
grew up on ay. Now, the Carolina situation temper, I

(15:39):
know he got mad at Steve wils but an interim coach,
if not doesn't have any say that's temper.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Absolutely, he goes to the Rams.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
We know he wasn't gonna be the Rams because Matthew
Stafford wasn't a super Bowl, so we know he wasn't
gonna stay there. But he goes to Tampa and he
gets into a situation where you got Chris Godwin, you
got Mike Evans, you got Cadart and Jason Lighter done
a great job of drafting. You get Bucket, Eric and
you get White, you get a a booker. So he's
done an unbelievable job. But give Baker credit. He didn't complain,

(16:10):
he didn't hang his head, old Paul Baker. Oh man,
I can't believe Cleveland did that? Tell me? H, y'all. Yeah,
he didn't do any of that. He didn't sulk, he
didn't cry. He just put hey, put his boots on,
and he went to work. And I'm happy. I'm happy
for him. I've been I've been wanted, Like when he
was in Cleveland, when he didn't play well, I said that.
But I have no problem whatsoever giving a man, giving

(16:32):
a man credit when credit his credit.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
He played his avery.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
You know what, every dog he's earning every sin, every oh.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Oh Baker, Baker get he did a three year Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah he did here and year two of the three.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Oh if it comes see Baker get millions.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Oh yeah, he ain't doing make it thirty three.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
They gave three years by the bill.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Oh, they definitely.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
And now I'm bored to that because y'all see the
brother guys.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
See me, I need that.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Uh we have Mahomes has eleven touchdowns to two interceptions.
Oh jo The Chargers beat the Dolphins, who have not
lost four games this season, in which they trailed by
one score in the final two minutes. After the game,
Tool was asked how players can refrain from feeling sorry
for themselves, Oh, Joe, take a listen to the bonds.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate
that for the guys, and then what we're expecting out
of the guys, Right, we're expecting this?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Are we getting that? Are we not getting that?

Speaker 4 (17:47):
We have guys showing up to only player only meetings late,
guys not showing enough to player only meeting Like, there's
a lot that goes into that. Do we have to
make this mandatory? Do we not have to make this mandatory?
So it's it's a lot of it's a lot of
things of that nature that we got to get cleaned up.
And it starts with the little things like that.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Be clear, you're saying some players were late or missed late. Yeah, maybe,
obviously you can say some of these things. I like
that to it being the quarterback, being the leader, having
that seat on the chest, and addressing those things publicly.
But you can't throw You can't throw your players under
the bus. You can't throw your players under the bus

(18:31):
like that. You can't do that. You can't throw your
players under the bus like that because even though you
are the quarterback, they're not gonna view that. Likely they're
not gonna they not They not gonna like that. Is
that you won't you?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Is that? I know?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Hold on, like this is not the old shoe that
I say that he said he won't people tell the truth.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Hold On, you got mad at me when I was
happy that camp or say, hey, we asked you know,
I mean, you said.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I'm glad you. I was trying to get you to
see the big picture. But you was in the forest
and you didn't see the trees.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
This is worse now, see, but it's different the context,
the context in which they were playing is okay. He
wasn't talking about nobody. He said, we collectively as a group.
But that's that's almost like snitching, Like what you mean, Okay,
we that's in house. You know I was late. Come

(19:26):
and holler at your boy, come haller at me. Let
me know you know I was late. Whatever might But
you don't go tell the media.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
You know you don't.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
You don't do it. Come on nine.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
I don't know how Mike McDaniel's make it through the
end of the season. He said, this is a leadership.
He say, do we make it mandatory or not mandatory?
He's putting the onus on the coat, right.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
But obviously when it comes to players only meeting, the
coaches don't have anything to do with that. That is
something that is Hey, listen, we're gonna have a meeting.
We need to get make sure everybody's on the same page.
We need to make sure everybody on the page. So
let's meet at so and so time. That's between coaches.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Those What happened, O Joe, is that when guys were
showing up late for meetings that were mandatory, that the
coach had said when guys were showing up late for
practice and the coach didn't nip it in the bud
until it got too late. And so what was one
or two turned to three to four? Turning the five

(20:25):
or six? Now, the restory the report was that there
were two main culprits and neither one of the ones
on our and one is playing extremely well in Pittsburgh.
But they were the main culprits. But they didn't say
they were the only culprits. So you know what danz
Brand says. I want to know what part of this

(20:48):
is he going to take accountability for two or three
three picks? Today Tour is third in the NFL with
the most interceptions thrown by a quarterback. If you haven't
said this privately first, then in the media, I don't
respect it. And since we're on the topic of respect,
I guarantee a lot of players don't respect to two
points the finger and literally has four pointing back at him.

(21:10):
If you want to win, put yours in.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
See hey, listen, you know and see he just said it.
He just said it. You know, I understand. I've been
in the locker room before when it comes to the
quarterback position. When things aren't going well.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
You take the pres take it on yourself.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
When things aren't going. When things aren't going it's my fault.
I got to do better. I have to play better.
When things are going well, you praise everybody else.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
I was able to do is because my office is line,
because my receivers are playing well. My running backs they
running the ball really well.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
You don't.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
You can't do this because the reaction are gonna get
from the players. But damn, that's oh you.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
It's like, yeah, they said, hold on to a t.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
You got, you got. You got to be careful. You
got to be careful. He's gonna I'm telling you right
now ahead of time. It's gonna backfire. I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
So already backfired. It's over. It's over. But I told,
oh Joe, I was telling you last I said, oh,
they need to break this thing up. You're like, nah, nah,
n't get running.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Oh Joe, it's over.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
When you say break it up, break it. I mean,
I understand the Tyreek situation.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
They should have got they should have got rid of
those pieces before the season, before the season. Oh Joe,
think about it. The report came out this year, so
that meant it had to have happened last year. Guests
who knew that was happening. The head coach. When you

(22:42):
find you got to tell the general manager and the
owner need to know. Okay, so why are we fighting
these players? Why are we taking one five hundred dollars
one thousand dollars? Why are we deducting this money from
this player check? Because it has to be clear by
the NFL Players Association, because now you got to tell
the PA what's going on, because the player might say
they just took so what did you do?

Speaker 2 (23:03):
It's over the Brian Florid situation.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
That didn't like Brian floor Is because he held their
ass accountable.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Get your ass to meeting.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
You got one job, oh, Joe, I could see you know,
say I'm sorry, I'm late. My other job got you
know such and such, I had to drop the kids off.
Oh ta, you got one. If you a professional athlete,
you got one job. I'm just talking about football, basketball,
or whatever the case may be. I'm just gonna talk
about our sport. Oh you got one job. If you

(23:32):
got a nine o'clock meeting, get when did you realize
that you had a nine o'clock meeting? Oh, that's what
time all the meetings are. When did you meet When
did you realize that? You know what, man, we got
a eleven thirty walk through. When did you realize that? Oh,
we always have eleven thirty walk through? When did you
realize practice was gonna be at one o'clock? Oh damn,

(23:54):
we always have practice at one o'clock.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Dum So why are you late?

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Tall, I understand. Sometimes you have a fender bender.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Sometimes the kid, you know everything, a little lady you
know kid had to go to the emergency room.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Something happened. Blah blah blah blah. I get that.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
But your kid didn't have to go ten times. You
didn't have ten fender benders. You didn't have a flat tie.
So all these excuses, all that goes to the grand
scheme of things of winning. There is no like one
recipe for to ensure winning. But I can give you

(24:32):
a lot of ingredients for losing. Now, I can't give
you one kid ingredient for winning, but I can give
you a lot of ones for losing.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
This is not a team.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Hey, this should have he should have never said that,
should have never got out about it.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
But look, we know this oh show.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Some players have great relationship with reporters, and they leake stuff.
Sometimes coaches and general managers and so forth and so on,
they leap things. But if you notice when teams are winning,
oh get us.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Everything, huh? Or when the Dolphins what year was that?
What's that?

Speaker 4 (25:10):
What?

Speaker 2 (25:10):
What year was that?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
They was going crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
On off two years ago?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
My goodness? But man, okay, we well, we we can,
we can, we can, we can we can ignore that
and scratch that to the wayside because it is not
biting us in the butt just yet. It ain't bite
us in the butt just yet, because we know what's
gonna happen. We get out on that field, Tyren Jayleen
water bawling, mostered balling eight chain balling. Well, we can't

(25:36):
go no wrong, Jayalen Ramsey picking picking balls off. I
mean we could now look what it got to in
just a short amount of time.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Sure, but see, Ojo, what did what did that? What
What did I tell you? What don't you do? Ojo?
What don't you do? What should you never do? Never
accept anything in a.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Win, stepping a loss. You're right, you're right.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
When that was winning, Mike McDaniel overlooked the lateness, He overlooked,
the tardiness. He overlooked all of that because he was winning.
When he started to lose, it started to become a
problem player. Oh cho, And that was the thing. And
I tell you the same thing. Hold on, when we
was winning, you never had a problem with me sitting

(26:22):
on my helmet.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Now we start to lose, get.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Off that helmet everything.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
What the hell he got to do with us losing?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Because I'm saying so the other team say, hey, man, hey,
Sharp's sitting on his helmet.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
They're gonna lose this week.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
What the hen I.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Gotta do with anything?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
But listen, Losing magnifies everything. Losing magnifies everything, and the
smallest of things that aren't being done the right way,
it's magnified. And it's it's nickpicky. It's just, hey, don't
I don't know what they need to do. I don't
know what we need to do because I consider myself
a Dolphin fan and Ben a Dolphin fan since nineteen

(26:58):
sixty eight again Dade County, Liberty City born Jackson, Morrial Hospital.
I was born in three or eight am Jerry nineteen
sixty eight. On I know my doctor's name. He slapped me.
Doctor Flora is so I've been a Dophins fan for
a long time. I don't know what we need to
do from this war. And you say they need to to.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
What you're blowing up.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
The team? Blow it up.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Oh, they'll blow up. They're gonna chang coaching staff. You
gotta be careful. They might get a new general manager. Also,
that's the st some of them players. That's there's gotta go.
Sometimes the hair got to go with the hat. Wait
who they said, they said, they say Flora, Brian Floord
was was too hard. They said, Mike, well, let's get

(27:46):
so normally, Oh, yoe you you normally just depended them
to sweep too far. If you notice, we're not gonna
talk politics. He swung President Obama, and then it swung
who President Trump. The next guy gonna probably be in
the middle. The next guy or the lady would probably
be a little bit more in the middle. We'll see

(28:06):
how that turns out. We got three more years before
that happened. So that's what happened. And so Mike McDaniels
was too far this way, Brian Flores was too far
that way. And I've looked I've always had great relationship
with all my coaches, I really have.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
But I think I learned.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
I think in my professional career I learned the most
from Mike because of the accountability.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
That he made, that he that he that he forced
upon us. And I didn't know. Then I got it.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
I got it, and he told me, he said, Shannon,
I can throw you a hundred balls. I can throw
you a hundred balls. I can die with the scheme.
You have that accountability. I can throw you a hundred balls, Shannon.
We're not gonna win that well, I said, Well, I
want to win. I said, you ain't gotta throw me.
You ain't gotta throw me on a hundred. But can you
get me eighty?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
We win? You know?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I said, I don't try. I don't need four what
we win? But can I get haighted?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Now?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
But in all seriousness, He's like, look, I'm gonna need
you to block better. I'm gonna need you to block
you know, I need an effort. Say no more, Say
no more. But I was big on the calid billy
oh Joe, you know, I was. I was a captain
when I when I and I was always and God's
kind of listening to me and I remember, you know,

(29:23):
we have uh, the players council. So if somebody had
you nobody came later or missed this or miss that,
Mike would ask us. He'd bring us in the room.
We sit around the table and say what they should happen.
So I was like, after a while, the dude just
kept being late. I said, well, suspend him for a game.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
A game?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Oh Joe, you know what I'm saying. I said, I'm
the oldest mother for on the team, and I get
here on time. I'm the most accomplished on the team,
so I get here on time. So tell me why
his time is more important than mine. We got the
same job, We live the same distance from this from this.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Facility, So why can't he get here? But I can.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
So he's telling me he don't give a damn about
me in my time, So why should I give a
damn about him and his place?

Speaker 3 (30:15):
I got you. I see you're going with it. I
see you going with it. I see you're going with it.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Hey, But you call him in there, and you know
you said that in house, Yes I did, But I
told him, I said, I don't know what Mike's gonna do,
but I recommend that Mike seit your ass out.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Of game, man, that you through all that.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Wait a minute, I say, see, one day you're gonna
be in my set chair, where you going to be
the guy that everybody looks too. And one day you'll understand.
I said, one day you're gonna understand what I'm telling you,
because the guys are gonna be that same way. About
three four years later, I come back. He's like, you're right,

(31:02):
he said, these more folks don't want to listen. All
they want to do is be on the phone. They
want to they want to do all this. They don't
want to practice, they don't want to come on time.
They don't want to do ish, he said. Man, he said,
I appreciate that. He said, I got a lot more
respect and understanding for what you was trying to get them.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I said, I told you.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
I told you hey, like I mean as I don't know,
but I don't I have had to jump on you.
You stitch on me like, no, hold on, hold on,
I just.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Chat.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
I just on it.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I just told I just told him what what I recommended.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
God, I ain't got time for that, man, I mean,
hold on, I'm getting my old ass up.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I been yet what was that?

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Probably you're thirteen, you're fourteen. I'm getting up. He only
in your he only in your four or five? I
mean your thirteen fourteen, And I'm getting my answer up
and getting there.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Oh listen, you you've been doing it. You you've been
doing in consecutive years. So you you used to the
program your year three years. You know you're not You're
not activated to the program just yet, not just yet.
I know you're still a professional, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
But here's the thing, oh Joe. What I understood is
that I knew he was that good of a player.
And one day he would sit in my stand and
I didn't won't see and guys look at you, because
I saw a lot of guys, and I was like, man,
I can't wait till I get I started making plays enough,
I can make a Pro Bowl, make an all pro.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
MM. Guys looking at that, and they gonna say, well, man,
I can't wait, so I can be late to practice.
I can skip this or I can skip that.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
You going with it?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Mm hmmm, no no no no, no, no, no no
no no, no, we gonna we We're gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
We're gonna do it right. We're gonna have fun. I
want to have fun too. Hey, sharp man, we gambling
shop there. We're gonna have a good time. But when
it comes time to.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Work, work, we're gonna work. Oh Joe, we're being training camp. Cool.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
We come in there before we go to practice. Cool
off of of coordinator. He said, Uh, the boss need
you to get him going today.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Okay, how you do now?

Speaker 1 (33:40):
So now, oh Joe, I go in there. Oh oh,
I'm gonna strike up the band on the today. Boo boo,
I'm start beating on. Oh Joe, I'm beating on. I'm
beating the locker.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Boo boo, boom boom boom.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Oh, I find strike up the band on y'all. Oh yeah,
I'm going crazy, Shane going crazy today. Now, who're gonna
get this work?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Crazy? Boom?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Hey cool week, we're gonna get that work in. We're
gonna have a good time, but we got the work.
I'm not wasting my time. I ain't here to lose.
I'm not putting all this time in. I need to
spend all this money in the off season. I don't
eat the way our feet to come in here and
be six and ten, to be five of the level

(34:27):
I'm coming to win. I'm trying to get to the playoff.
I'm trying to win the division, get to the playoffs.
I'm trying to get to a sum. That's all I'm
trying to do. All that other is don't even matter
to me. We can be friends, or we can look
we could be friends, or we can be friendly, the
two different things.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
And everybody, everybody on the fifty three man roster, they
do not get along. We all left no one common goal.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
I like that we could be friends and we'll be friendly.
I like That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
The ram stuffed the Ravens seventeen to three, dropping the
Ravens to one five. Since the fourteen team playoff four
match started in twenty twenty, only one team, Washington in
twenty twenty, started one in five and made the playoffs.
The Ravens have been outscored ninety eight thirty three in
the past three weeks. Only glimmer of hope is Lamar
Jackson could return from his hamstring injury after the Week

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seven by Baltimore committed three turnovers, including an interception and
a thumber by Cooper Rush, who was benched in the
fourth quarter for Tyler Huntley. The ravens three points are
the fewest homes since two thousand and two, when the
Buccaneers shut out the buck When they were shut out
by the Buccaneers twenty five to nothing, I was gonna
say I wasn't on that time. I was looking at

(35:39):
I remember being the Bucket. But anyway, Baltimore has lost
its past six games without Lamar and failed to score
more than seventeen points in each. De hop bad football
gets you to one in five. So whatever you put
out there, that's how football works.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Hey, can I tell you something for you to know?
I expected the Rams to do this. I expected the
Rams to do this, especially the way the Ravens looked
and where their ranks statistically on defense. Can't stop the run,
can't stop the pass. So I understood a high volume
passing team with staff was gonna come out there and

(36:17):
do exactly what they did. Now, on the other thing,
the thing on the other side of things, As much
as I want to make fun of you and your Ravens,
I'm not. You know why I'm not because them being
one and five lets me know how valuable Lamar Jackson
is valuable that team is. Let's say Lamar Jackson doesn't

(36:38):
play the rest of the season. I say, what, y'all,
go what maybe one in sixteen? You know, there's there's
a possiblity that may happen. There may be some games
where you know, Cooper Rush or Tyler Huntley come in
and compete.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Nah, Cooper Rush ain't it. And I told him at
the beginning of the season. I mean, y'all remember Cooper Rush.
I mean Cooper Jerry said he was it.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Jerry said it was a good he could be the
future star the Cowboys. But that's neither here nor there.
It lets me know how valuable Lamar Jackson is. You
mean to tell me that. Lamar Jackson basically puts his
team on his shoulders every week and goes out there
and wins. With this team, he's the reasons why we
are able to go and compete weekend and week out.

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Even with the shortcomings when you get to the playoffs,
he still gives us our best chance. So what I've
seen from the Ravens so far, when Lamar went out,
even when he was in, they still had a chance.
But him with him being out, you don't stand a
chance to do nothing, no cut.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
The offense is Lamar centric, so it's gonna be hard
to win when you built your offense around the guy
and that guy's not in there. Like you said, they
weren't winning very many games with Lamar in there this year.
Cooper Russ eleven of nineteen seventy two yards, man through
the ball seventy two nineteen times had seventy two yards,

(37:57):
so they were sid that was twenty one to thirty
four collectively fo one hundred and seventeen yards.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
And also not just talking about the quarterback, to the
other players on offense, you have to raise your level
of play because you don't have you don't have eight
back there. Because you don't have eight back there, you
have to bring your level of play up to par
to hide the weakness quarterback. Yes, they baby, they or
you that boy. You have to take over the situations

(38:26):
like this when you get to I mean, I see
that they're trying to make them plays, trying to do extra,
trying to add that that that spark to that offense.
You know, it's just everybody, Babeman, everybody has to it
has to be elective effort. Okay, we don't have our quarterback.
That means all of us we got to play damn
near perfect. You have to, especially the NFL, especially with Yeah,

(38:51):
you're not gonna recover because with them turnovers, they getting
points off them turnovers.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
They're not because they're not they're not good enough to
come back. Yeah that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Oh yo. People saying I snitched. I didn't snitch. We
had the meeting because Mike called the meeting. Mike knew
he wasn't in the meeting.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I told him what I recommended because I didn't want
him to like man hey to me for me to
be talking to him and all the while, I recommended
that Mike suspended asked for a game. So I told him, Yeah,
I ain't want little snitch. I snitched on myself. I
snitched on myself. Or you want to say something, because
whatever normally, whatever happened in that.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Meeting, it stayed in the meeting. I just wanted him
to know that was my recommend pe.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Holding you accountable to street guidelines and this ain't the
street life, this ain't the.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
O cho. Yeah, o jo. If I if I go
tell you what I told somebody, how's that snitching? I
told you what I told him.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, normally snitch don't come back and tell somebody or
bad You know, I told such and such on you.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
They don't do that. It was a meeting. We had
a meeting.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
What was going to be the punishment. Clearly finding him
wasn't getting the message thing. He kept doing the same thing.
This is what I recommended. Now he didn't take my recommendation,
but I told him, I said, this is what I recommended.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Hey, hey, you would have told me that if I
was single team, you would have told me.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I was told anybody.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
I would probably dropped you on the spot. I would
have had to whoop you.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Hey, we gotta find every day. Guess what you'd have
missed that next game. I guarantee you and you wouldn't
even missing. You wouldn't even been suspended. Well, we told
that locker room up. I guess you we had told
that locker room up. Oh, we're gonna tell that locker

(40:58):
room up for sure. Damn, we're gonna tell the lock
of Robbo Joe.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Dack Henry had one of his best days on y'all
twenty four karacster Buck twenty two and you only get
three points. You read the ball really well. I mean
think about it. You have more rush yards than pass yards.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
That's bad. And like I said, I think they got
a bye week, so.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
So he'll get an extra week off, Lamar get an
extra week off so he could come back out of
the by I.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Mean, hey, do you want him to come back out
of the buy? Being that you really don't have a
chance of doing anything. Can they string off seven or
eight games in a row?

Speaker 2 (41:47):
They can? Yeah, yeah, they can't. They have that kind
of billy oyo. I mean that's Lamar. You believe in la.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Okay, then will you believe they can run off three?
And you see she had him looking without him? Yes, okay,
you're right, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
The thing is is that you're probably gonna have to
win that division because it looks like look at the
AFC West, Kansas City, Denver, the Chargers could you possibly get?
You got the AFC South right now, Indy looks good
and Jacksonville even though Jacksonville, hey, hey, hey Duval, y'all

(42:30):
want us to talk about the Jags today because y'all
got mad at me and O Joe. Y'all don't never
say nothing about the jack y'all Jiang Jack Jack. Okay,
where y'all at? I ain't seen not one person missing
nothing about the good about the Jacks.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
But Yo, that was the thing.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
People want us to talk about the team? Yeah, when
they when they are two and twelve, what we're gonna say?
Whoa jack Jack Jack? Okay, y'all, Hey, duvall? Where y'all
at y'all wanted to talk about the Jacks?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Mhm Uh, I don't know, Joe.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
They're gonna have to put some They're gonna have to
put some stuff together. Man, Derick Henry can can can
get hot. He and Lamar can carry your team. Moe, Joe.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
They did it last year. They did it last year.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Absolutely. I just I just a lot of people that
that there's really nothing. There's nothing bad you can obviously
there there. You can pick and talk about Lamar Jackson
and what he can and what he can't do, and
you know, no playoff success, but Lamar being absent it
shows you how valuable, how good of a player he is,

(43:36):
that the team is not even functional offensively without him there,
and how important the quarterback poisition is as well, and
why he makes and commands a kind of money he's
making you take a Lamar Jackson out, you see what
you get. You take a Joe burrowed out there equation,
and you see what you get. Josh Allen obviously he
hasn't been hurt, but I'm sure they wouldn't be able

(43:58):
to function as well offensively. It just it changed the
dynamics of everything that makes your team who it is
when these top, top tier quarterbacks are no longer available
for your team.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Had the defense been playing as well as they played today,
they held them to seventeen points. You know, normally, Old Joe,
they give up party, they give up thirties. If they
had been playing that, well, maybe they won a few
more games. Get this game here, old Joe, I'm trying

(44:34):
to join you.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
See.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Oh, heard is right here? I found damn it disappeared
on me. You don't want me to see. I'm gonna
get it though.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
I'm gonna do that. Yeah, over heard that right?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
This game? Your team, the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, hold on, hey, oh I'm ready for this. Come on,
come on, come on, run me down some numbers. I
know we Lost'll get ready, I know we lost. Run
me down some numbers from to day. I know we lost,
but I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
I know a whole lot too, a few.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
I know, I got some Bengo fans in the chat.
I know a lot of people. Oh yo, son, you
know yo, sorry, oh you know what beangals and all that.
He he and ha ha, And that's fine, that's fine.
But I'm gonna tell you I saw some I saw
some good things. I saw some good things, not in
the first half. About the second.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
I know what. You didn't say win and you ain't
saw that number.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
That's fine, that's fine, that's fine. Listen, we building, we
building to something good.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Now.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Jake Flacco, he been in he been in Cincinnati. Flaco
been in Cincinnati for seventeen minutes. Flaco been in Cincinnati
for seventeen minutes. And I saw the first half. But
it's a little shaky. It's a little shaky. New offense.
He got an appetizer, an appetizer of the playbook. There's
only so much you can do, there's only so much

(46:06):
you can put on his plate, even being a veteran
new offense coming to new receivers. But what I saw
from Flacco in that second half, when they had that
seventeen play drive on and kept the ball for ten
minutes in that third quarter and went down the field beautifully.
I said, you know what, that's something we could build
off of. We got a quarterback that can keep our

(46:28):
head above water, and we can function and we can
compete weekend and week out. Now, we didn't win the game.
We played against a good a good Green Bay offense
and DJ Turner. DJ Turner, if you see this, boy,
I salute you. Boy, boy, you look good today. You
hear me, you look good. You was on everybody like
White on rice. I thought we were gonna have a
chance to win the game on that third down and

(46:50):
Romeo Dobbs got away, got away on that over route.
I thought we were gonna get a chance to get
the ball back, maybe go down and take the lead.
But it didn't happen. They kept the ball, drove down,
got a field goal, and it was too late. It
was too late at that point.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Uh oo. Talking about the building building, Oho, the Bengals building,
like that church fund building.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
That you never finished. And listen, if you know football,
you see some of the people probably didn't even watch
the Bengals game, so they're not gonna understand what I'm
talking about you. You look he looked for the size
of Okay, listen, this is nice. Now Flacco can do
this and string it together for five or six weeks.
He only had a small a small severn side of

(47:35):
the playbook at his disposal. So going into next week, Oh,
we play the Steelers Thursday night, Stealers Thursday night. Y'all
we finished, I'm going to the game. I'm gonna go
to the game, right so I know that they're gonna
be able to give Joe Flacco more of the offense,

(47:55):
so he'll be able to do more.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
How you gonna keep how you gonna keep them wolves off?

Speaker 3 (48:02):
The wolves?

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (48:05):
T J Watt, cal Hayward a hot smith here.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
That with Michael Parsons and Shan Garvey today.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
How many seconds where y'all playing? Where y'all playing? How
many seconds? I got? I got? How many sacks they
had on.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Flack O the day? Yeah, yeah, it's right there, I
know you got who exactly what did I tell your
officers line I need to do. We need you to
show up and just give them some time to throw.
They showed up in the game some time to throw.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Did you see y'all gave a twenty five.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Did you number one?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Did you see the greatest receiver they ever done? Them strikes?
I don't care who they put the ball in the
vicinity t Higgins. I saw you, Yoshi. I need you
to make them plays, baby, I need you to make
them players, to keep them drives alive.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
You can do that. You can do that.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
There's a reason you the number.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Let's go Steelers.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Hey, we're good. Who they We're gonna be alright. I'm
telling we're gonna be alright.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Win day when you're going another game? When day?

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Can I take something? Can I take what gonna win?
You're probably gonna win Thursday. We probably you're proba Thursday, y'alls.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Matter of fact, if I told y'all have lost four,
I got I got something for you.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Tell me something right, tell me something that I cannot
do anymore. If the Bengals lose Thursday and I won't do.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
It, I mean you done you out?

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Everything they lost so much, A nice little, nice little
friendly bet, nothing to do with no money, but something
that I can actually, I can actually do, I can
live without. If the Bengals lose and I problem, I
won't do it no more that's how much I believe it.
That's how much I believe in the Bengals winning Thursday.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
I put something, I put something together. We have something tomorrow.
Y'all not gonna win on a matter of fact, and
you know what time it is. I am. It's time
for you to get a new team to REATU.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Listen. I don't jump shit, I don't abandon I never abandoned.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Things are always going to be good. Things are always going.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
To be great. Oh, Joey Fingith's only been good for
y'all like three times in your lifetime. Stop that.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Don't do that. We've had way more success than just
three times. Come on now, yeah, absolutely, yeah, Okay, I
take your.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Word for it.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
What's happening?

Speaker 1 (50:41):
The New England Patriots went on the road to New
Orleans and won by the score of twenty five to nineteen.
Drake May was eighteen of twenty six, two sixty one,
three touchdowns, no interceptions.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
He uh.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Boot ta five catches ninety three yards, two touchdown. De
Douglass had three catches seventy one yards touchdown. Stephan Diggs
had three for twenty eight, had a long one called
back for offensive past and appearance. The last time the
Patriots started four and two without Tom Brady as their.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Quarterback was nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
They won three games in a row for the first
time since twenty twenty two are firmly in the ALC
East Division race thanks to that Week five victory over
the Bills. O Jo, I don't know how much of
this game you watch, but Drake mayers he getting better, better, better, better, dyling.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
And listen, this all comes with repetition. Now, it comes
with repetition. Not only that, coaching plays a huge part
in that as well. And when you have boot tape,
you got Douglas playing well, you got Stephan Diggs went
crazy when crazy the past two weeks now other receivers
are stepping up and saying, well, hold on, you got
to worry about me too. You can't just key on

(52:05):
digs because your key on digs. This is what we
can do to you. This is what we can do
to you. And then Drake may not turn the ball over,
protecting the ball, making all the right decisions with with
the ball, You're gonna always have a chance. And then
they playing good defense. Rabel is a defensive coach. The
defense of mind.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
And you got Josh McDaniel's back.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
That's what Hey, one thing, one thing you can Josh
calls and plays. Josh moving forward, just turned head coaching down.
You're not meant to be a head coach. You're meant
to be an offensive coordinator. That's that's that's that's that's
where that's where you.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
What if?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
What if he is a head coach that calls the
plays like he's officer coordinator.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
He does, but he's not.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
He can't relate to people. He don't know how to
talk to people. Okay, okay, okay, okay, that's his problem.
He doesn't know how to talk to people. And the
more people that he's over, he's a control freak. He
talked to people reckless. So it's best that he deals

(53:22):
with his little specialty group, which is the officive to
coordinate them and the quarterbacks, tight end coach. You having them,
wide receiver coach, you had of them, offensive line coach
you have, you have the old line, running backs coach.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
You do that.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
I'm gonna put this scheme together with work on this.
That's what he needs to do because he can't talk
to people, he can't manage people.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
He doesn't know how to Seattle.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Seahawks beat the Jags twenty to twelve. The Raiders beat
the Titans twenty to ten. Hey, hey, Jags, y'all wanted
to talk about y'all want to talk about the jaguar
right quick?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Let me see get over the jag right quay old
you know jag jag?

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Whoa up who y'all was hooping to holler. Just the
other day, Jackson Smith and jig Book dropped the bucks
fit in the gym, y'all. Hey, Jackson height for buck
sixty two and one sixty and a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Barnard had three for seventy one.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Trevor Lawrence was twenty seven to forty two, two fifty six,
two touchdowns. They ran the ball nineteen type. They didn't
run the ball well enough. Uh. You know why they
didn't run it well enough because Trevor Lawrence was sacked
seven times for forty four yards when you can't run it,
and they unleashed the hounds.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
They were gett they were getting after him now. They
were getting after him.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Oh d law former cowboy two sacks, Lynda Williams sack
of the half b Murphy the second two sacks the
woo suit, Sack of the half.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Thomas A Sack and y'all, I mean, come on Dubal
where y'all?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
L I don't think nobody from Duball in the chat?
It's late. What time it is out there? It was?

Speaker 2 (55:09):
It was late last week? To remember, they played money
night in late chat, lad.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Talking reckless. All right, we're gonna get you all lives
out of here. Uh, it's final. It's uh time for
our final tam the evening, it's time for Q.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
You know what time it is? It's what time is it?

Speaker 3 (55:35):
What's what's called? She just went to the airport. So
my flight at ten o'clock. So I land in Miami
at five, and then I'm taking the kids at the
NBA Young Boy Concert.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Doctor Franken L. Bellamy, for the record, I have fired
my weather man. Clearly he did not see a storm coming.
Still love my cowboy, You say the weather man says
it's gonna be a cowboy victory. Weather Man always lie.
Morty Convin says, you door need representation that can free

(56:07):
him from Cleveland. That's the real story, not Lion's Chief.
They got his right. Can't nobody free from nowhere? Danny
be no new England Patriots fans in the chat is wild.
Drake May is playing good football. Drake May is playing
great football. Morning Coffee, Unk and Ocho read the room.
We won't your door free.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
But that ain't gonna work.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
What they gotta do with it? Yeah, he ain't got
no parole coming up.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
He ain't up for parole.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Ts card watching detailed service. Bengals need Russ bad, Just
spend the money. Who's the tallest NFL quarterback ever played? Uh?
I think Damn maguire. I think he was six eight
and a half, as Waller was like six seven. I
think damn Mark McGuire brother played with the Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Flaker would just fire in the day for those I mean,
we lost the game, but unless you watch. I watched
the whole game. I'm like, yeah, we can work, we
can work with this. There's only so much they can
put on this plate. Coming into this game, he was
only sacked one time. You expect a game like this
with with the with the with the front line that
the Packers have, you would think it would be turmoil,

(57:19):
it'd be chaos, but it wasn't. You know, they have
some good, some good flashes Offensively, We're gonna be all
right and you'll be able to see him Thursday night
when it's the actual only game that's on.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Still, don't kick that out, Jason Zeldorf. Justin Fields, Aaron
glam said, football back of one hundred years. Who's the
most god offul quarterback in the NFL? Justin Russ or
Chad make Jake Brownie Chad's man, Jake Brownie. Well, Jake
Browning is the worst. But two or the three gotten benched.

(57:53):
If Justin Fields don't start playing better, he about to
make it three for three.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
And who's the back, Oh, Tyrod Okay is definitely capable
of of of of competing and give me your chance.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Let's start a conversation about Justin Fields. We had that
conversation earlier. He's not playing well, he's not reading.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
He's not processing, he's not reading, he's not seeing the field.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Well, he's not We've had that we oh, Jo, Now,
we talked about that earlier. I don't know if you
if you joining us late, but we had a conversation
about Justin Fields. And trust me, the jests are having
a conversation about Justin Fields. Also, Jered Reed said, how
about them Panthers? Keep pounding. Yes, Jared, you guys, did

(58:37):
y'all pounded them Cowboys? Babol Patel got to add ma
Homes to the early MVP conversation next to Baker. Fifteen
and fourteen pass the yards, eleven touchdowns, two and twenty
two yards rushing, four touchdowns, only two interceptions.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Especially in the last three weeks, he's played exceptionally well.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
He's always going for the most part, he'll always be
in discussion every time, but he's playing good football. He's
looking like the Justin Field. Excuse me, he's looking like
the Patrick Mahomes back. Yes, Danny b. Justin Fields looking
like prime Prime Jason Campbell on the Redskins, Jason Zeldorf,
My Giants man, my Man Dark aka Dark Vader and

(59:20):
scat Ak Vanila. Jerome Bettters is going to take your
take your Broncos. Dart is an actual NFL quarterback, unlike Fields.
Still love your Hey, hey, Jackson Darten, Uh, Well, hold on,
as you what did the Giants play the Broncos in
New York or in Denver? That'd be a good game.

(59:42):
But they're gonna get after this. They're gonna get aft
this ass.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Now they do that, you gotta be careful now you're
you're not playing against no statue, playing against no statue.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Justin field was a statue.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Justin fields don't get out of that pocket or make
them runs like like goddamn Jackson dark Man. Yes he
can run, but it's a little different, a little different.
You you won't see.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Brian In said, Uh, let's go Lions.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Tough game tonight, Dan, We'll have us ready for the
Buccaneers next week, next Monday. We will get some players
back soon from our r for dbn O l players.
We got oh Cho Sunday Blues this week. Yep o, Yo,
it ain't gonna look good, y'all. I mean, y'all gonna y'all.
It's not often that a team lose two games in
one week.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Bucks. I mean, uh, the Bengals gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Do that, all right, y'all don't. I'm telling y'all, y'all
know nobody want to listen to me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
No, we don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Pat Doves said, like my man texts me today after
their game, Rico should be charged for a rico against
the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Philly talk with Pa.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
I agree, players have to execute and he had his
worst game in three years on Thursday. But Patulo has
been terrible. The run game has never been stagnant under
Hurts and the past this inconsistent. That is true, But
teams are not gonna let Saquon run the football. Jalen
Hurts is gonna have to be more efficient in the

(01:01:17):
past game. It's really that simple. They are not going
to let Saquan beat them. Oscar Wright said, just wanted
to tell Ocho that I know how you feel about
the Hall, but for all the kids that grew up
watching you, we love to see see an Ocho bust.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
I can make my own bus.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
I got my old jacket.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Quintin May said, oh, your favorite line when he's losing,
you know what? Yeah, we know they're gonna lose again, Quintin.
On Thursday, stray Tyner said, Dondle playing like this is
your Panthers. Do you make chubble Hubert Hubbard again when
he's healthy or stay with Rico?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
You stay with Rico. The question is, let me ask
you a question.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
With Tuba running as good as Rico is right now
before he got hurt, no he wasn't, so Rico's just
starting now. Brandon Martinez said, uncan Ocho will the Cowboys
keep Pickings. Well you almost have too, because you gave
him a draft pick. Whatd you give up a third
for it? You gave a draft pick, so you gave

(01:02:28):
her a draft pick just for one year. Rent, I
think they keep him, and I think.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
He wants to be it'd be a great place to stay.
But then Jerry gonna pay him? You got is he
gonna is? He gonna pay him what he's actually worth?
And you already have a top paying you're paying or
a top five ready.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
And and guess what you gotta do something like that? Yes, yes, yes, God.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Well, I think that they're gonna they'll let Pick go.
They'll let Pick go so he can, so he can
he can get his payday the right way.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
King Lou the Third said Miles Garrett to Dallas. You
see his face today, Yep, the same face I've seen
the last three four years.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
He's just making more money now. Vincentinard said, good evening,
unkin O.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Your question, is the twenty twenty five Broncos defense on
par better than the twenty fifteen or ninety seven Broncos defense. Yes,
it is definitely on par with all of those defenses.
I think the secondary might be a little better. There
are no weakness. There was no weaknesses in that secondary
you had, so you couldn't say, Okay, I'm not gonna
throw it to leave, but I'm gonna throw at Chris

(01:03:36):
Harris Jr.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I couldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Riley Moss right now is the weak link on the
secondary for the Broncos defense. So that's where people go.
But you know, you had Vaughan, you had d Were,
you got Coop, you got Bonito. I think the middle
backers they're on par you had.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
De Wolf.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Yeah, it's very comfortable, very very comfortable.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
I think I would give the nod to secondary, even
though Pats aer Tens probably is better than everybody in
the secondary at the time. But I think the Broncos
back for was better than the Broncos current back four is.
But that's what They're very, very comfortable. But the office
is not there. What the problem is The twenty fifteen
our offense in ninety seven is way better than both

(01:04:25):
of them. Jason Ocho's flag football team got whipped, His
Bengals got whipped, and his for tend teams the Dolphins
got beat.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Oh Jo loves hot else. Yeah, the hot el Cafe
that's all.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
My funny thing about it, and people we have to understand, Like,
I know, we like making fun of me, but I'm
one of the few people that have no problem taking ls.
I don't always boast and and and praise and scream
to the mountains with it when it's w's like, I
take my l's with grace as well as you can see,
I'm still smiling. It's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Yeah, I mean bro, you, I mean, bro, you played
it since you used to No, No King journey. Oh
your my flight land in Miami winsday at eight pm?

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
What you doing? Boy?

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Listen, Hey, my flight is at ten o'clock. I land
in Miami at seven tonight. Then I'm going straight from
the airport straight to the NBA Young Boy Concerts. So
when you get that Wednesday, maybe be a politic. Be
a politic at Tussy's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
So I'll let you boy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Saucy D said, O, Yo, what are your top three
or top five individual athletes? Sports like boxing? Track, tennis? Example,
Track and feel is my favorite. NFL is my second favorite.
Basketball third. I used to like me, I used to

(01:05:51):
like tennis, but I don't. I don't really, I don't
since Federer and the doll. I I don't really follow
it like I used to. Uh so, what you know
the sports that I used to. I mean I couldn't
wait and I would watch damn there all the time,
The two of the Franz.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Yeah, it's too long.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
I can't. I can't watch no cycling many.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
I can't watch no.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
So when Greg Lemon first run first won it in
the mid eighties, uh he was a teammate, he was
a lieutenant and Bernardy know and then he went and
got his own team to seven eleven and Bernardi know
attacked him. And then Miguel and the Rain, the Lion King,

(01:06:38):
Mario Cipolini. I just but I'm like track, give me track.
If you give me take you only get three sports
to watch the rest of your life. I'm taking track
and field. I'm taking football.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
My top three. If you know me, you already know
what they are. Soccer number one. Soccer will always be one.
Football that's next in boxing is third, and take him.
That That's all I could watch. That's my three in
that order. What's you laughing at?

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
A cupcake? Mama? Hey guys, it's been a while, shuning.
You told me let my hair down dive back into
the dating pool.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Umph.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I'm telling you it's sharking fested waters out here. Too
many games.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Hey, hey ale.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Cupcake, Mama, you out of you?

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
U Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Well, you ride you wild for that one?

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Hey, it ain't ain't nothing out there. Man ain't not
not there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Hey, like the song said, come on home? Hey, are
you ready to come on home? Someone is calling to
carry me home? And if you ready, hel Joe, I
told you I'm coming on home, come on, come on.

(01:08:00):
Tim's being said this weekend was not good for my guy.
Oh Jo, I'm gonna need you to sit out this week.
We're gonna start calling l L.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
It was a great week for me. Great, a phenomenal week.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Uh, Danny, little John your reaction to Penn State find
Jane Franklin.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Oho, what you did say?

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
You did say that you did this?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I told you three weeks ago they're gonna fire you.
You sure did you lose two games to UNR We just.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Talked about that last night. I said, I said, no,
no way in hell. They fined him and they on
fifty million. You say, I guess they said hold our beer.
I think you need to put back.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Can't keep losing like that had an.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Apart man to go to coach at Uh you we
go coaching Penn State right now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
You go ahead and go right ahead and take a
I don't want.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
To matter of fact, you know, I mean I met
I met your owner today.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Oh did you Rob Walton? Oh that's the son.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yeah, yeah he married yeah Walton Pinner. Yes, yes, yes,
I think again him asked him for a job.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
I told him I could be the chief marketing officer.
I let your boyd.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Back.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Conclude this episode of Nightcap, we want to thank each
and every one of you are joining us as you
watch the Kansacy. The Chiefs take down the Detroit Lions
to move to three and three by the score of
thirty to seventeen. The Lions fall to four and two.
Thank you for joining. Y'all know who I am. I'm
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(01:09:50):
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(01:11:13):
the Lions thirty to seventeen. Broncos beat the Jet thirteen
to eleven. They sacked justin Field nine times, fifteen QB,
fifteen QB hits, seven tackle for losses, four pass defenders,
and the Jets had negative ten yards passing negative eighteen
total yards.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
That's not good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
The Panthers beat the Cowboys thirty to twenty seven. Ric
o'dado got his revenge with one hundred and eighty three
rush yards. He told them buckle up. They didn't buckle up,
but they had to learn the hard way. So that
concludes this episode of Nightcap. I'm up, He's oh Joe.
We'll see you tomorrow night after the games. Thanks for

(01:11:57):
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