Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Steelers HC Mike Tomlin calling out the Browns and GM Andrew Berry for trading Joe Flacco to the Bengals! Unc and Ocho sit down with rapper Dave East to talk about his new album “Karma 4”, his comparisons to Tupac Shakur, and why many consider him the best basketball player in hip-hop. Dave also opens up about balancing music, fame, and staying true to his roots.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We'll get back to that nice time to welcome in
Grammy nominated rapper. They tell me he's a great hooper.
They say he one of the best hoopers in the
rap game. They say, hey, when you come up, everybody,
all of a sudden they can't find the shoes. He
has an album coming out, Karma four, that will be
released actually on my daughter's birthday ten fifteen, twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Here yours, Davies, Dave, what.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Do it do? Bo?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
What up my boy? I'm good? We got more Joe, Oh, Joe,
it up done?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Chilling Man, chilling Man? What's good? Everything good?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Anything healthy, bro, I'm looking at the Karma four features
collaborations Nepsey Hustle with Khalifa, you Got Larry June, Key,
Clock Mazzi, Jeremiah jac Quez, Mano. Tell us a little
bit about the album. What makes this album so special
for you all?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Is my first official independent joint.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
I mean I've been signed since I came in the game,
like twenty fifteen. I was signed with NAS early on.
I went on the Depth gym, so it feel good
to you know, put it all together myself and the
last call I dropped was twenty twenty so than five
years since I did that, touched into that series, So
it feel good.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, when it comes to make an album, especially with
when you have collaboration like you do, how difficult is
it to have everybody on the same page, you know,
Hey listen, I need I need, I need a verse,
I need to do this, see you to beat? How
difficult is to complete the album of this magnitude when
we have collapsed like that.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Oh yeah, it's yeah, No, it takes a while, you
know what I mean, because everybody got different schedules, everybody
running around doing whatever they're doing. So I would say
the hardest part is just the time, you know what
I mean, Like I had, I had. It was a
few features I had that got right at the end,
you know what I'm saying, Like righto, I turned it out, Thank.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You, bro, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
But I would say, overall, everybody that I worked with
on this album, whom I got a personal relationship with,
so it was nothing was forced, you know what I mean,
It was it was all natural. Everybody got back to
me when they could.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
It was it was love.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And it's always nice to have a personal relationship because
is it like when you will a big studio, they
reach out and do a lot of this for you.
And because like, okay, ay, such and such, you know,
Sony Epic or whoever, Capitol Records or whatever the case
may be. But now because you say I got a
personal relationship, hey, you just pick up the phone and
hit him your damn self.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
That's a fact. That's one hundred percent fact. I ain't
got no middle.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Man with that.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
The artwork for Karma four is an homage to Tupac's
iconicag magazine covers you, which recently celebrated anniversary. Who are
some of like, obviously when you do this, like the
Tupac thing, So obviously Tupac was a big inspiration for you,
But who's some of the other inspirations. Who are some
of the rappers You're like, Okay, I kind of like
I kind of like their style. I kind of liked
(02:56):
their beat.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Growing up, I was a big big okay, I was
of course naves hole DMX. DMX really probably made me
feel like I wanted to like write my own rap.
I would probably I would get at the DMX God
bless his soul. It was a lot back then for me,
(03:20):
like just coming up. I never was really in a box.
I listened to Snoop Dog Pam, I listened to Outcasts
in Atlanta. I listened to basically everything that was coming
out of New York.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Rough Riders, all of that.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Dip said, I gotta, I got an ear for a lot,
you know what I mean? So I think me growing
up and paying attention to all of them different styles,
it gave me my style, Like musically, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
The cover was that your idea or was that, well,
you're independent now, so it had to be your ideal.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
It was it was like, you know what, you know what?
That was my So, my my cousin chick. He's a
diehod like I love pop. I got tatted on me.
But he's a die hard, die hard like every lyric.
He know all the unreleased ship that nobody never heard. Like,
he's a pop Pok fan, you feel me. So one
(04:11):
day we're in the studio chopping it up, and he said, Yo,
I gotta I got a record on the album called Crazy.
He was like, yo, for that video, I'm gonna put
on this because and he kind of looked like pop.
He got the ball. He reminded me of pop my cousin.
But he like, Yo, I'm gonna do the straight jacket
in the video, you know what I'm saying, And we're
gonna we're gonna recreate the park. I'm like, nah, I'm
(04:32):
gonna put the straight jacket on. Like so I basically
kind of took his idea with you know what I mean.
But I remember that vibe, that that that issue when
Pac was on that cover. Me and Poc got a
lot of similarities, I believe, just in just uh beyond
the just the music, to the actor, the Gemini, It's
(04:54):
I just got a lot of connections to Tupac, And
I felt like, with me being independent now and a
lot of things I've been through, it's enough to drive
you to the edge, you know what I'm saying, And
I think I balance it well. So I really wanted
to pay how much the Tupac.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
With the cover that's basically was the gist of that,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Hey, right now, I'm gonna say, but when it comes
to to the era of music that we're in now,
the sound, the way people rap, obviously, when when you
think about New York rappers, you think about lyricists actually
being able to understand what everybody is saying. You have
an ear for the game. You've been in the game
for a very long time.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Is it easy to to stay true to being a
lyricist being that you from New York, or wanting to
adjust to the sound of how music.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Is right now or the time that we're in. It
changes every ten years.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Right, I think I think in any lane, you gotta
you gotta be able to you know, and whatever's going
on to what you got going on. That's the word
I was looking for. You gotta be able to adapt,
because I think if you don't adapt, then then your
sound becomes dated. Your sound becomes the old, you know
(06:12):
what I mean. Nobody wants to be the old. So
I think with me, I gotta do it my way.
I gotta stick to what I know, stick to what
I love. But I'm always my ears always to the
streets to what's going on today, you know what I mean.
So production wise, what I'm talking about, the lingo or
I'm up to date with all of that with the
(06:33):
kids is talking about, you know what I mean. So
I'm gonna always add that into the music and what
I'm talking about on the songs. You know what I'm saying.
So the kids that might be ten to fifteen, twenty
years younger than me, they can still be like, oh,
I know what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Okay, Dave.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But the thing is it's really tough to adapt because
you have a sound and people are used to that sound,
and a lot of times when people try to get
out of that box, people like, man, I don't like
the old Dabies, I don't like this new Davy. And
so you have to walk a tight rope of like
giving the people the original, the O. G. Davies that
they're used to hearing while trying to sprinkle some new
(07:14):
flavor in because it is a fine line because you
hear a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Man, I like the old sound better all the time,
all the time.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
But you know what I tell people to that bro
I feel like with music, for me, I can only
speak for myself. With music is like what am I
going through at that time? Where's my life at that time?
So a lot of that, A lot of times people
like the music. When I was still living in the projects,
I was I was broke. I was trying to figure
(07:43):
it out. To Bay, I ain't had no jewelry. I
ain't had no calls, so I might have sounded like
I was starving, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
I don't when I go back and listen to it,
I don't really hear too much the difference besides my voice,
my tone of my voice.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I got older.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
But I feel like that you can never like you
can't have the same child twice, you know what I mean.
Like that's how I kind of treated like in each
one of my bodies will work. It's like a it's
like a kid like you know what I mean. Like
I put a certain amount of time into that project.
I was emotionally going through this during this project, like
you know what I mean, Like I can't recreate those feelings.
(08:19):
I can't recreate people that might have died and was
around me while I was making that music and the
energy I was getting off for them and now they're
not around them. I mean, so it's like, yeah, people
don't know that it takes to putting into.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
The music, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
So yeah, I think it's just growth, bro like, and
the people that really really rock with me, they grow
with me, you know what I mean, Like as time
go on, they grow with me.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You played college ball at the University of Richmond, transferred
to towsand clearly did you did you have hoop dreams
or whether you like you know what? Were you rapping
and hooping at the same time.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I never was. I never thought I was gonna be
no rapper. I never I never seen that. I thought
the league, that's all my mall, my pops, my grandmother,
that's you know. By the by the time I made
it to college playing ball, that's all I had been
pushing up to that point, like my family was behind it.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, that that just went left, you.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Know what I mean. But the talent was there I had.
I was blessed with all of the height, everything. God
gave me all the tools I needed to play basketball.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
It was just my my mindset at seventeen eighteen years old.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It wasn't what it needed to be disciplined and structured.
So who who's your team? And what? In basketball?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
In the in the NBA, MANI knicks, I gotta go.
I gotta go next, man, you know what I mean,
I gotta go. I gotta go.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Big and wide. Bro, I gotta go next. They they'll
let you down. They didn't let me.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
They have a lot in my lifetime. I've been here
a whole.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
While all your your entire lifetime, you're not some of
your life.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
My pops can remember last time.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
They you know what I mean, they got so yeah.
But I'm a I'm a I'm a Knicks fan, Bro,
I'm at the games.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I rap them, you know what I mean. I'm I'm
gonna rib in New York.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Because everybody when we talked, when I talked, I've interviewed
a lot of uh guys on club Shape. We have
guys here on Nightcap and every name come up with
I talk. They talk about rappers. Who they talking Man,
Big Davies, Man Davey's got real.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Game for real our Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I was talking to Herbo, I was talking to Chris Breezy,
I was talking to Snoop. I was talking to I
was talking to him. Everybody your name if the first
name come up. So I guess you be taking you
be taking these rappers money, Dave.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Now you know what it is.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
I think, To be honest with you, bro, I think
a lot of rappers and I don't know nobody like
they background in their life and all that but I
think once they got on to whatever it is they
got on, got their money, Uh, it became like a
pastime for them, like a hobby, you know what I mean,
like a like something they do in their free time.
Now that they've made it, you know what I'm saying.
(11:10):
Before I ever thought about rapping or making a song,
I was, I was, I was hoping, like you know
what I'm saying, like really really, you know what i mean.
I was on that Like so I feel like that
and in fact that now they got footage out of me.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
They somebody put it in.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Case Wiler nobody now, Huh.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I'm a rapper now, man, I do that. I do
the rap thing now.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Man.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I acted a little bit here and there, but I
fell in love with the music. Ball broke, Basketball broke
my heart. Man, I gave basketball mad years. Yeah, it
ain't go how I wanted it to go. So I
had to hurry up and find something else, you know
what I mean, to kind of save face like my mom's.
And was like, I ain't what you're gonna do now,
Like Blue, you blew that opportunity, which what you I mean?
(11:56):
So I'm I'm thankful for this music. Bro I'm real
thankful for it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Who's your football team?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
The geez Man? The Giants?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Oh y'all?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Yeah yeah, and we just we just we just beat
the birds, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
We just packed them up.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
So, I mean I felt I was actually in attendance
for that win. I felt good, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Hey, y'all know, y'all gonna come to my hot this week, though, Dave,
you know what, They're gonna go too well for y'all.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Man, y'all play le broncos.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You were recently on.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
A part of casting that Mafia Mafia three, So what's
what's mafia?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
What's it? Like?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
That was dope, man like, Like even with that, like
like y'all was just asking me, how do you keep
adapt to what's going?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Like that's dreaming world is a.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Whole it was a whole different animal.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
That wasn't evening going on when I came in.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I ain't been in there that long, but that's super
new and it got all the kids in the headlocked
down to my daughter, that's they was chuled into that.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I put out stuff all the time. They don't care
nothing about it. Come on, you know what I mean.
I'm like, damn, but that was a dope opportunity for me.
Uh and I just saluted.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I was. I was the energy in that in that
crib was fire.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Like.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
They're just like they living like how you would wanted
to live as a kid, you know what I mean,
Like if you could just.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Be They've grown.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
They've grown ass kids, you know what I mean, Like
you can just doing all your homies and a big
ass mentioned doing whatever y'all feel like doing. I think
it's dope, bro. I think it's super dope for them
to invite me up there. Let me let me do
my thing up there.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
That was dope.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
His for his album Karma Ford will be released on
Wednesday the fifteenth. You got got features with Nipsey, Hustle, Wiz,
Khalifa's Larry June, Key Glock Maley, Jeremiah Jack, Wweef, just
to name a few. They thank you for joinings Man,
best of luck on the album, best being Independent, thank
you for coming by Nightcap guys.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I really appreciate.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
That, y'all. Man, You know that all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Sid Dave Ease his new album Karma four drops on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's Calyn's birthday. Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
The Titans have fired by Brian Callahan just six games
into his second season as head coach. His team was
four and nineteen. The Titans were three and fourteen in
Callahan's first season, finishing with the number one pick and selecting.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Cam Ward.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
With Callahan firing, the past four quarterbacks drafted number one overall.
Six of the past eight seed seeing their head coaches
fired during their rookie season Trevor Lawrence, Urban Meyer, Bryce Young,
Frank Wright, Caleb Williams, Matt Eberflus, cam Ward, Brian Callahan ojo.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, you think it's not the coaches. It's not the coaches,
it's the owners. A chat. Stay with me real quick
and understand this. The owners have to understand that when
it comes to football, right, the owners are businessman, huh,
and the stuff that they do, the stuff that they're
passionate and enthusiastic about outside of football. In the business world,
(15:16):
the one way to fix it is you throw money
at it. You throw money at it, and that return
on investment it happens right away. When it comes to
the game of football, it ain't it's Saint a microwavable plate.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
You don't.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
You don't draft a quarterback, have a new coach and
put them out there on the field and think you
all are going to have success right away. That's not
the way it works. That's never been the way it works. Now,
sometimes you get a quarterback, like you get a CJ. Shrouder,
you get lucky, you get a Jade Daniels and you
get lucky. You get a franchise altering quarterback right away.
(15:52):
That changes the trajectory and speeds up the process of
being a consistent team that can win. But listen Brian
Callahan getting fired obviously first year with Camboard. It's it's
not the microwave. It's same food. You can't just put
in there and heat it up and all of a
sudden thing you're gonna have success. It just doesn't happen
(16:15):
like that. It never has.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They don't have patience, So Joe, they're not letting anything develop.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You know, I have.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I used to have a say, and I get my
chickens by smashing the eggs, not by letting them hatch.
There's a process in which an egg cash into a chick.
Lit These what these owners are doing, They're smashing the eggs.
They're not They're not gonna let it hatch. They fired
the general manager, they fired Brable, they fried Ran Carthon
and guess what now, they fried Brian Callahan.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
And what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
They don't know?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
They do my point exactly. So obviously they're not football people.
They're not they're businessmen. O.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
She is Amy Adams.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Okay, I think I think the last pronounced skunk sprunk.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Strunk her father, mister Bud Adams.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
But Adams, yeah, okay, I know who that is.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
He passed away and turned it over to her. I
don't know how involved she was at the time. So
you inherit this business, and if you haven't invested or
spent a whole lot of time in it, you don't
know a whole lot about it.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You're trusting other people to run the business now, at.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Least when Jerry passes away, hopefully that's not for another
hundred years. His kids have been in the business from
day one, so they're gonna understand how this business works.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So they have been a part of it since he
purchased the team in nineteen eighty nine. They've been a
part of it. I don't know how involved she was
with it. So and you're trusting other people, I don't
know how involved they were with it. So it's it's
(18:05):
it's it's it's it's tough, O Joe.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
It's tough. And it's not like.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
A uh, another business, because O Joe, if your business
is not doing well, you just don't You just don't
sell it. You just don't scrap your e start buying
the CEO, start finding the VP to coo oh, you
don't start find a whole bunch of people.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You give it time. You have to.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
You don't have a choice, you have it. Like But
those that are in positions of power, I don't think
they understand how the game of football works. You're drafting
number one for a reason, Yeah, you're terrible. You're drafting
number one for a reason. That quarterback is going to
have its ups and it's downs. Yes, I mean that,
that's just that's the nature of the business.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
But he says, what but these young quarterbacks going to
dysfunctional franchises. If they was functional, he wouldn't be there.
But the hell, there's a reason, and why you got
an opportunity to pick first you're bad?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
How would that be fair?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
That Kansas City win the championship, and then they get
the first pick in the draft. The Eagles win the
champions win the Super Bowl, they get the first pick
in the draft. We talked about this the other day,
is that the Lakers won the championship in eighty two
and guess what they got.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
They got to select James Worthy number one overall. How's
that fair? Right? Damn?
Speaker 7 (19:31):
Yes? No.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So normally the best So normally the collegiate best player
of what is deemed the best player goes to the
worst situation because we want that guy to catch up.
If we just put the worst the best players on
the best teams, they would stay bad.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I just they just they're not gonna give it time
on Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
They're just not gonna give it time because you're gonna
have to pay these quarterbacks. The quarterbacks don't give to
be getting three million dollars three excuse me, three hundred million.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, absolutely, And so there's like, but this is the problem.
This is the problem that scares me. If you only
gave Callahan two years, right, yeah, you get your drafted
cam Ward. I'm not sure how much timey, I'm not
sure how much how many years are on this rookie deal.
Do you have the patience they.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Got, they got four plus to fifty option?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Do you have the patience with him as well? So,
I don't know. Stuff like that scares me. It scares me,
especially when your fire coach that early, knowing that you're
drafting or you're picking in a position you're picking for
a reason. Bringing another coach and still not having the
players is not going to change the goddamn thing.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I'm trying to think a quarterback that didn't. I mean, hey,
Baker Mayfield, what Freddy Kate fire doing Bakers rookie year?
So this is not this is not new. This has
been going on. You go back to Lambs, You go
back to the Lambs decade plus and go back and
(21:09):
look at them one overall picks and see their quarterbacks
get fired.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
During that first year.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Crazy because a lot of times he was there the
year before and they get the working quarterback and they
get you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah okay, Hugh, Hugh Jack Okay, Okay. So see.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
It's this is this is not this is not something new.
It's been going on. But I think now we're starting, like, damn,
what do you expect from a team that that let
Derrick Henry go. You didn't get anything for him, and
you traded away A J. Brown for Trilling Brook of
Birds and now he's in the he's in the He
(21:54):
was in Denver, I think today or last week working out.
So do you think that is a team that is
a quipped You let Dad Henry walk out the door,
Scott Free, You traded A J.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Brown. You the best you got.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
You had one of the better coaches, Mike Brable, and
you fired him.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Damn, who's gonna be the next coach?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Well, Mike McCoy. It was on the staff, so he's
taken over. He was the head coach at the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
He was in he was.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Offensive coordinator in Denver when the never went to that
Super Bowl and they got the doors blown off them.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
But he uh, he's the sad he was at the
he was I think there was San Diego then and
ended up moving. They went to the playoffs his first year,
but then he ended up losing his job. So he's
the interim coach at this point in time. I just
don't think. I just don't think, Uh, they have an idea.
(23:02):
You trade your best player the best coach you've had
in a very very long time. You fire him. You're
going through two three general managers in a span of
five years. That's not that's not the continuity that you
need in order to build a winning program. I just don't.
I just don't. I don't know if they're gonna get
it right this time around.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Y'all, well, listen, listen if they don't, if they don't
get it right, we might as well put our goddamn
name Manhattan. See we can come away with get us
a little opportunity. You know, we could diversify our portfolio.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
No, I'm good. My portfolio is diversified.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Okay, okay, it don't it. Don't hurt that a little more. Now,
can you imagine? Shannon Sharp, manager Tennessee Titan.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I've made it abundantly clear.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I want no part I want to cover the NFL
in this capacity. I don't want to work for an
organization in any capacity.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Mike Tomlin openly western the Browns in general manager Andrew
Berry for trading Joe Flacco to the Bengals. Oh cho,
Let's take a listen to what Mike t had to say.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us,
because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a
quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening
day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
But that's just my personal feelings.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Look, Mike Tito, that's not his style. Mike t don't
normally involve me. Hey, he always say that's not us,
that's not the Pittsburgh Stevens business. Right, But why you
think Mike t h stepped out of character?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Well, listen, they asked him a question, You asked him
a question. He gained something different. He gained something different,
and obviously even he has to always showface and be
someone that he truly not. You know what I feel
like being myself today? I like that one thing I
told young that I want coaches, I want players the
obviously start doing. Sometimes I want to tell the truth.
Sometimes I want to say say exactly how they feel.
(25:06):
I want the locker room talk, the conversations that had
to be said in front of camera. Now, what he
just said, just there is something he would say if
there were no cameras rolling. I enjoyed that. That's authenticity.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
You know, so you like what Tua said? Who Tua?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
No, I don't like that part.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
That's authenticity.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
No, no, no, I don't like that. See I'm listen.
That's I'm not. I'm not throwing nobody dow nder the bus.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
You said you wanted authenticity.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
And you're not. You know, listen to me. I don't
like the snitching on people. I don't like that part.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You won't authenticity. You get the pick and choose what's authentic.
If it's authentic, you want it. That's what you said.
Chat Is that what he said?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
That that you're confusing. You don't don't put authentic and
snitching together. That's that's not that's not together. I like.
I like Mike thomas answer because it's something most coaches are.
Most those people wouldn't say in front of the camera.
So the fact that he did say it and it
was out of character for him as a head coach,
means it's authentic. That's how he really feels.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
So let me your question.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Who did is too? It was snitching and throwing people
under the bus that he got.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Were they late? Were they late? Did they miss? Did
he lie? I wouldn't what Tour said, is what he
was said? If the cameras weren't.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
There, that's that's called snitching on cameras are not. You
said you want people to be authentic. Now you want
them to be authentic.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Sometimes you see you're going from you're going from one
spectrum to the other. So if we would talking about two,
I would say that snitching like I did yesterday. But
now we talk about Mike tomins.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Is he being truthful? Is he being truthful? Yeah? Who Tour?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I don't know. We weren't there. We don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
He's hold on you. How can it be if if
if he can't be snitching.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Then we weren't there.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
We weren't there, so he ain't snitching. No's how you
know you weren't.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
There exactly because just the context and perspective of what
I have to go off and you saying what we
shouldn't you what I said?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Nothing.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Let me say something. We shouldn't know anything about what's
going on in that locker room. It shouldn't as a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
We shouldn't know anything about what Mike Tom was thinking.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Why not try to compare the two I just said?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You said you want authenticity you said you want people to.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Tell the truth. Who was telling the truth.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
He was telling what he experienced, Guys coming late, guys missing.
You didn't like that cause you said it's snitching. But
you said you just wanted people to tell the truth.
You want people.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I want people to be themselves.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
They said, wait a minute, stay stay with me, Stay
with me now. Now, I don't mind. I don't like
the snitching part. You don't throw your teammates under the bus.
As a cat and as a quarterback, you always take
issues and put them on yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
That I do.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Now, Mike Tomlin just giving his his his perspective based
on you know, the Browns letting joke come to the Bengals.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Sure, just give me his perspective of why they're losing.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
No, stop stop trying.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I just go bout what you say.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
If you say you want people to live in their truth,
you say you said, I just want people sometimes, I
just want people to come up there and tell what's
on their mind. That's what you told me. I said, Oh, Joe,
you can't do that. You say, why not, unh, I said,
because it is a been a detriment to the team.
You say, I don't care. I just want it to
be true. I just want people to stay. You say, stay,
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stay with me, just for a second, stay with me
right now. I said, okay, I'm gonna stay with you.
O Jo, I don't understand what you don't understand. I understand.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Listen, all tour did will say, God, why we're losing.
We got the reason why we're losing is that when
we have a meeting and we schedule a meeting, our
guys gonna show up? Are they going to show up
on time? When we say we're gonna do this? Are
we gonna do it?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Tell what he's saying the truth?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
That ain't nobody in business? That ain't nobody. You know,
you don't conduct yourself like that as a player about
your players. You know that you don't put that business
out there like that. You don't do that. Basically, you know,
if he was on trial, you know he done got
everybody in trouble. We all go in to jails the tour.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I know.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
So in other words, you don't want people telling the
truth all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Come again, So you're saying you don't want people to
tell the truth all the time, correct, I.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Don't want people snitching snitching. There's a difference. You're confusing
someone snitching and someone being authentic in their answer based
on the active of the question that they're asked. Those
are two different scenarios.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
How about this here, snitching only takes place in the street,
the street of snitching. When you partaking that activity, you're
supposed to be a cold. You and I do not
partake in that.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
It ain't well. There's also an NFL code. Anything what
is it inside that locker room should not be talking
about in front of cameras or at home.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
So we shouldn't tell the truth all the time. Huh.
So we should tell the truth all the time.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, you should. You just shouldn't snitch.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
This band.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
We gotta live by a code. If we don't live
by a code, what are we living for?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
So we got so the locker room got the same
code as the street.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yes, yeah, what you mean? Yes, the same, it's the same.
Got to live by the cold. I'm just saying, yeah,
you gotta live by the cold.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
And listen, it's an unwritten rule too. Somebody didn't even
have to explain it. You just understand and know in
that environment, what you can and cannot do.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
That's not as a quarterback in the NFL or coach
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
There are things that you can and cannot do.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Thank you. That's all I want to hear. We move on,
thank you. That's all I wanted you to say.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Right right, But then you have some people like myself
that that choose to do the opposite.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yes, that's all I wanted you to say. Oh yo,
I'm like, bit this bad, but hey, I'll go up there.
But I why can't the quarterback you put people on blast?
Why can't the quarterback? Hey show you no good will?
That quarterback can't do that?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Can?
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Moore came out and said, I'm gonna be honest with y'all. Man,
We fucking asked like. That was refreshing. Humph, that was refreshing.
I get tired of hearing that goddamn same old rhetoric
police to be correct, from the same goddamn screw.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
It was refreshing that that tour told us the truth
that God's be coming in late, that God be missing things.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
It was no, it was not, Hey, that god damn campboard.
Now that was some funny.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Ship asking the ass tour what's going on All tour
said the reason one of the reasons we might be
we gotta take it serious. We gotta make up our minds.
Are we gonna come in on time? Or the meetings
that we schedule, are we gonna attend them? He was
just being honest.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeah, I got you, I got you. Oh shoot, this man.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Had told me.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
This man been telling me it's fresh and it's a
breath of fresh air.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
It is like, but you didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I don't know, but I understand you said you want it.
I didn't want it because I understand the ramifications that
come along with it, because I don't know, you know.
According to reports s NY Network, Tyrod Taylor has the
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support of some people in the Jets building as there
to be one over Fields. They feel like Justin was
given the job without any competition. Yes he was. Justin
Fields got two years at forty million, and Tyrod got
back up money.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
M hm, Hey, I'm I'm mad things aren't working out. Honestly,
To be honest, I really I really thought, I really
thought this has been really really good. Finally, Justin Fields,
you get your opportunity, you get your team, you get
to be quarterback number one. You don't have to look
over your shoulder. You don't have to worry about you know,
(33:46):
Russell Wilson or or you know, being pulled to understand
whenever you comes Cargo. Yeah, Chicago, And I'm like, God, damn.
Finally he gets his team. He goes to a place
where they actually want him. Correct were they actually on him?
And that's one of the greatest feelings in the world.
And for some reason, obviously it just hadn't panned out.
(34:11):
It hadn't panned out the ways as good as Justin
feels is. I've seen the flashes of brilliance from him,
whether it be throwing the ball, whether it be running
the ball or escaping the pocket and just just extending plays.
I mean, he can do it and just have to
find a way to string string all those qualities together consistently.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Over and over look, Tyrod is not the athletic feenom
that he's not. I mean Tyrod when he came into
the league. Now Trod was athletic Virginia Tech.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Now he can go.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Now he was the backup to Joe Flacco when they
won the championship. He took Buffalo to the playoffs. Ty
Rock can play absolutely can. He could play, and so
I agree with you. But for whatever reason, it hasn't
clicked yet for justin fields. It still takes a while
(35:07):
for him to process it.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
O Yoe.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
And you know, at this level, at that level of
which he's playing at what you and I played at
that clock's gotta go off, guys, they're gonna be running
scott free.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Go yeah, guys are not gonna be running Scott Free.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
You gotta throw, guys open, you gotta you gotta throw
with great anticipatory skills.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
And right now it's just like he's glitching.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
You can't hand on to that ball, brut This ain't
seven on seven? They coming.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I think I think they give him a couple more games,
o't Joe? I do?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Absolutely. I mean it's too soon. It's too soon to
pull the plug right.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Now, Oh Joe, I'm not going oh to nine and
not make changes. I've got to make some changes.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
What are they right now?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
The six? I go to O? And seventh? O N eight?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
What what come on with Yoe? What you want me
to go on? And fifteen? Before I make a move.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
It's the next three games. And you know, once you
once you make that move if you go from if
you go from Justin Fields, the Tyrod Taylor, that just
that just erases and scratches everything.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
As far as him, Well, I'm trying to win games.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Okay, about the future Panthers, Okay.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Bengals, Browns.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Ship, that's tough.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
It's either now never. He won't get an easier stretch, easier,
he won't get an easier stretch.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
You just did you just hit it?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
How many games of the Panthers won? Two? Three? The
three and three? Right?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Did you just see that the Panthers demolished the Cowboys?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Or no, they're three and three? Okay, what what are
the Bengals two and four? What's Cleveland? Two and four?
Browns are one and five? So you got three and three,
two and four and a one and five? Not to
give me the next three?
Speaker 4 (37:04):
They got it. They got a chance of winning winning
one out of those three because they ain't beating the
pants of the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Then they got the Patriots, Ravens, Falcons, Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Okay, they might be the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Well, they might beat the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Now Lamar be back by then. Hey, if things don't
go well, do you even bring lamar back at all,
or you just let them.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, okay, being fifty million dollars, you damn right, I'm
bringing it back.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Hell, you talking about.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
The no chance at the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I mean, who said they ain't got no chance at
the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I'm just saying if they don't depending on when he
comes back.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Well, I mean, look, they're on the bye week this week,
so this will be three weeks almost four weeks a month.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
How severe was the hamstring injury?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Oh well, he'll be back there, He'll be back next week.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Then James Franklin is required to look for another job
in coaching or broadcasting. According to the copy of the
Penn State contract obtained by Front Office Sport, if Franklin's
new job pays him less than the eight million he's
old annually through twenty thirty one, PennState only owes him
(38:24):
the difference, so he's required. I don't know why he
put that in his contract. Crazy. I don't know why
his agent let him. His agent couldn't have been Jimmy Sexton,
because ain't no way Jimmy Sexton let you put that
in your.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Contract, right, Hell to the note.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
You fired me. Don't worry about what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna draw a pension from you. That's what I'm
gonna do. I'm worried about my check. Everything else. Ain't
your business exactly?
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Definitely, am, That's that's unfortunate. You never want to see
anybody lose their job. But who that sucks?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Now?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
You got to pick up and leave get and been
there for a while. See, that's why I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Coach Jimmy let him put that in that Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, but hell no, I'm on who was Jimbo Fisher's agent,
the guy that he got eighty that he got eighty million,
and he ain't got to do nothing out of the
jim I mean you see Kirby Smarts buy out of
one hundred and eighteen million.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
God listen, Kirby Smart won't have to It won't be
in that position no time soon.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Ain't no way what happened he got? I mean, Jimmy
Sexton is the coaches got. I mean probably what you say,
seventy percent of the coaches, probably seventy percent of the coaches.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Jimmy Sexton represents them.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Okay, n I ain't looking for no job you want,
Jimmy told represent us. You sure you don't want to
put your hand in that? Put your hat now.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Hired?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Who Jimmy?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Oh barstools go hiring for one dollar? So they are
if seven million, nine hundred ninety nine thousand, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Work one day a week, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
But I'm not, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
We've been talking about this for like the last three weeks,
and I'm not surprised by this. And they are Penn State,
they were just in the college football playoffs. I said,
I get all that I said, but go back and
look at this record against top ten teams. He's beaten
one top ten team in the Big Ten since he's arrived.
That was in twenty sixteen, he beat Ohio State. He's
four and twenty one. The athletic director Specie specifically stated
(40:41):
it was against big games. You can't win big games.
Now you losing to Northwestern. Now you losing to UCLA
who hadn't hadn't led all season alone, hadn't won any games.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, they got you got to go.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Yeah that sucks, man, You got to go. That sucks.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
You got to go.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
I hate to see I people lose their job.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Too, Ojo. But when you know when you coaching. There's
volatility in coaching. Coaching is just like the military or
being a a Pentecostal minister. You know, you got to
move around.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Even if you got to move around on Penn State,
Ohio State, Penn State, Georgia, Penn State. Let's see, you
know Oregon or any of those ACC and SEC teams,
they're just better. They got better players. There were reasons
they were four and twenty one. There's a reason you
only beat Ohio State one times in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
They say, we've been invested five hundred million in upgrades
to Beaver Stadium, we paid top dollar for defensive coordinator,
we paid top dollar to keep some of these these
these upper class but and no, no, no, we're not
going for it. Your Penn State. Yeah, you're Penn State.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
You're basing everything off the name you the Dallas Cowboys. Now,
what's that? What's that guy in you in the past
thirty years?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
What's the thing? Jerry?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
See, here's the thing. Jared is great at marketing. Penn
State say nah mm hmm. And here's the thing, Oh, Joe,
you know those uniforms. I mean, bro, you got black cleats,
you got no name on the back of your jersey.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I mean, I don't know. Do they got names on
the back of the jersey?
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Oh it's plain Penn State uniform is playing.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
White white helmets. Come on, brow, How you sell that
when you're getting haircut, You can get a haircut in
the organ, in the locker room, you get fifty different
You get fifty different, you get fifty different uniforms, and.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
You get to keep them all. But how you compete
with that?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
How you compete with Ohio State with what they got
going on in Michigan and Georgia and the Alabama's and the.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Texas and the Texas A and M. But I'm paying you.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Jane Franklin making eight million dollars, so they're paying him
like you're a big time coach. You gotta deliver with
Joe's coaching only take you so far when well you
should what he should have said, you know what? You
know what, don't pay me this because I can't. I
can't deliver like that, So don't give me no tenure extension.
You take their money, there's an expectation, you know what
happens on Joe when you take the money. There's an
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expectation of what every time. Results must follow every time.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
It's so.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
But that's what that's what comes along with it and coaching.
You get into coaching.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Yeah, I see, that's why we should do it. I'm
telling you.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Oh no, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Uh time for our final segment of the evening is
time for Q and A.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Hey man, we could be like a package here.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
No, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Saying go ahead, No, I want to. I like snitching.
De Town said, Oh, Choe is right. You can be
authentic without snitching.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Thank you, thank you. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
You're real.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
You cannot be if you are a coach or a
quarterback at the highest levels, you cannot be authentic.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Hold on, uncle, I was authentic.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
You play quarterback?
Speaker 4 (44:34):
Damn near.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Okay, I believe the Broncos have the team to go
all the way to the super Bowl. Let's go Broncos.
Eighty four should be retired, Kemp. I mean, we look,
we gotta play a little better offensively. But it seems
to me, if I had to guess, Sean Payton was
very conservative, saying, look, if we don't put the ball
in harm's way, they can't drive to beat us. You
see that offense over There is anemic, it's pathetic, it's pedestrian.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
So with that being said, they're.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Gonna have to play a lot better, uh Sunday against
the Giants because that performance that they put on the
field offensively will not get it done. Get it done
Sunday against the Giants. Oh, Joe pitt Cincinnati, you owe
me that jersey from last year's bet. I'll let you
slide because you're having a rough season. It's gonna get
worse over under two and a half, two point five.
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How many tackle would Jamar Chase have on Thursday?
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Uh? None? Because we're gonna win that game. We definitely
gonna win this game. A division rival steal is coming
in Thursday night. You know, crowd going going crazy. It
can be about forty degrees.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
You know it get cold in Pittsburgh too.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
Oh yeah, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
So I don't think the weather's gonna have an impact.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Let's see who do I want? I want Aaron Rodgers,
I want Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco and Roger
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Oh so is that how you feel? Is that how
you feel? Okay? Okay? And you're only saying that a
joke because because Aaron Rodgers playing well.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Right now, your guy hadn't played well in a while
since the Super Bowl in twenty twelve.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Okay, I just saw my guy have a seventeen a
seventeen play drive down the field after halftime and he
only been there for seventeen minutes. He's been on for
seventeen minutes, and he took our team down the field
and drove.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
He'll look worse on Thursday.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Trust me, let's bet. Okay, right now, I don't want
to bet.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
But no, I don't want to bet. Ts car Washing
detail service. Y'all had bling bling on yesterday yesterday night.
Will Russ ever play in an NFL game again?
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I mean, hell, I think he better than flaccoh That's
just me personally. I'm trying to think. Question, is it
is he okay? Being a backup?
Speaker 8 (47:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (47:27):
I mean you have to know your role as as
you get further into your career, as you get older,
you understand you can't do the things you once did
when you were young. You're not in that position anymore.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
I get it. Yeah, see that's how you think it.
But let me ask you a question. Tell me what
quarterback thinks like that.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Hey, And that's the hard part, and knowing knowing when
the journey is over, knowing when you're not the main character.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
You still have over the quarterback that things like that,
considering the man got three hundred plus touchdown passes, he's
won a Super Bowl, he's been to eight Pro Bowls.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Hey, that resume looks beautiful.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah, and you think he's gonna be okay to be
at the backup huh hm?
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Hey, Hey, I mean, listen, reality has to set it
at some point. It just does. It just does. And
if I agree, if you don't believe it, they'll show you.
How about that? And they showed him, Oh you still
think you're a starter, Well let me show you why
you're not.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
And you know he got eight million a lot of backups.
Now that thing for to go down, that thing for
to go down to like two or three million, damn
and two or three million by the time you move
your family, get the family all up there, and get
a place that's big enough worth it. I don't know
where Russ want to live. I don't know if he's
want to live in Seattle or he wants to live
(48:59):
in I don't I don't even know where where Russ
is from. I don't know where Sierra's from, but I
don't know mm hm, Patrick Donovan Ocho, let's bet loser
shaves his eyebrows hashtag Steelers Steelers are rumored to get Tyreek.
(49:19):
Now that that can't happen, maybe go after a J Brown, Oyo.
If I get my eyebrows, can I get a signed jersey?
Speaker 7 (49:27):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (49:28):
I get your jersey, but I ain't playing my eyebrows.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
You ain't got no eyebrow.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Oh, hey, JD, you're that he wanted to get that
man of jersey but won't give you your jersey.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
J Up.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
You might have do something bad to Ocho.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Hey, whatever you want to do, let me know I'm here.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
JJ Carver said, Ojo really dressed up as as his shadow.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Ocho dressed up like an intern.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
Why n Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you. I went to
the concert. I had a good time with the kids.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Bid says, Now, Uncle Ojo tell me with the straight
face that jon not the best running back in the
league this year.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Rids up.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah, yeah, you'll get no debate from us right now,
he is said, ear. I mean it's you know, he
and Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor been putting up stats too.
I don't know if you noticed it, but uh, he
leading the league in Russia. But yeah, Bijon has been
phenomenal this year. Yeah, he's out played He's out played
c Max, He's out played Derrick Henry, He's out played Saquan.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Right now is just he and Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
Casey Taylor said, Oh, I need you to copy and paste.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
This message to Weezy. F. You're wheezy.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
I know you know if you Drake and Barbie release
a trio album, only y'all would do numbers on numbers. Weezy.
I need it, Weezy, we need it. F is for flawless. Yeah,
I know, I know. Wheezy ain't listen to me when
it comes to the music. Who they he let you
(51:03):
listen to me.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
You know we collab before.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
King.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
He said, Lord, have Mercy l A and A Maritals
for the World Series. Good pitching tonight it looked like
the Dodgers gonna go.
Speaker 4 (51:20):
They gonna they gonna win again. They just went last.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Year, gonna win again.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
You see who they got show Hey, Mookie, Freddy Freeman,
Bernandez Boy good. Yeah. Uh, Drew Freddie Freeman as a
playoff monster. Let's go Dodgers here? Did they win again?
I sure hated Atlanta? Let it let Brady go. Freddie
was Freddy. Freddie was the braves chipper. He was chippering.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Do you know what happened? I feel on that turf
over there?
Speaker 4 (51:56):
Yeah? Hey, I ain't felt that in about thirteen years.
Why hit that shower?
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, you don't know a lot of you don't know
a lot of bumps and bruises.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
You got to that adrenaline well off of you getting
that damn water hit that water, hit it. Jason Zeldorf said,
dark as a dog. We coming from the the NFC.
Each crown we put in foot to you know where
next week against the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Dark is way better than Fields.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Hey, I can't jesus Scotty bout gonna run pass certained over.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Boy? Please we got something for that for scatter boat yep?
Speaker 4 (52:34):
Oh yeah, all right, I ain't got nothing scat pack
all right.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Desmond Wilson rives up. Falcons look good tonight. Can y'all
shout out my brother man Zach Fraser Zach, Yeah, Falconts
did look good. I'll give it to him. They look good.
B Jon random ball well, Drake London was catching it. Uh,
Pennis through the ball well defense got after Josh Allen
sacked him several times.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Did a great job stopping to run initially.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
But yeah they played well to pick them off twice.
Rise up Falcons, Janna Mitchell unkin o Jo. Do you
believe the twenty nineteen LSU Tigers with Burrow, Jella and
Jamar could beat the twenty sixteen Browns?
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Is it possible?
Speaker 4 (53:17):
For Oh? Damn it? No, you're tripping man? Hell nah
what Uh?
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Alex I'm saying, Oh how how you hit Slade so
hard that you knocked yourself out?
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (53:39):
I knocked both of us out. I did, But I
hit it. I hit it with with I dealt my head.
I should have just caught it with that flipper. Chris
Slaide on a Monday night, JJ, please tell people how
good that?
Speaker 2 (53:58):
What are you? One?
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Um team that might be the best team in college
football history. Go back and look at go back and
look at those guys, y'all. Do realize Sean Taylor with
special teams and Trail Road they had and Trail Rolle
they had a Phillip B Caanna. They had Clinton Porters,
Frank Gore, Williams mcgahey, they had Jeremy Shockey, they had
(54:23):
K two. They had another tight end that ended up
going to the NFL for the I think it was Ever.
I think he went to Buffalo. Man, look at it.
Off Is Brian McKinney, McDougall.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
They had a.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
Nose tackle Vince Vince Walford.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
They had like sixteen first rounders on that team.
Speaker 4 (54:47):
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
All in the linebackers, Bilma Dbs Williams. Yeah, real, Carter
y'all remember Courtland versus Andre Lord. Yes, but see that
was in the field to play. Now, had they did
that in the field to play, they probably would have
got a jack. They got five boom.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
But afterwards, Hey, every.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
So often, David amos, my Pats are coming. The Pats
do look good, the past do look good. And guess what,
Buffalo do not look invincible anymore. And they've already gone
to Buffalo and beat them once. Saucy Deep speaking on
what Tua said, Jerry Goff said last year after the
loss to the Commanders, he couldn't sleep at night for
(55:35):
a month.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
A month.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Bro, I still ain't got over the loss to Jacksonville.
Have been damn there thirty years ago, and I won
three Super Bowls and ain't got a gold jacket.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
They shouldn't beat us.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
I so noah, Uh, what do you do if referees
call it a K cheating the game like they did
in the Bears versus the Commanders. I don't, I didn't.
I didn't notice any any calls. Maybe I missed it. Guys,
y'all gotta stop thinking just because y'all lose the refs
(56:17):
cheating question for Oh, cho, start bench cut, CBS, Fox,
esp and UK.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Start Fox unk.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
Yeah, go ahead on your Fox. I'm definitely starting. And
what was the trade?
Speaker 2 (56:40):
No, start bench cut?
Speaker 4 (56:42):
Yeah, I'm a bench ESPN and I'm I'm gonna cut see.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
A boy a.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
Yeah babe, Yeah, I sure babe, Yeah Fox, but Fox,
let me ack a pure food. Let my here down
saucy across all sports. Who are three athletes that you
enjoyed watching in your life?
Speaker 4 (57:12):
Oh, I gonna go neymar Mayweather, damn Djokovic. I would
(57:39):
say alchaaz, but.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
I'm I'm lebron Serena.
Speaker 8 (57:50):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
Vote.
Speaker 4 (58:05):
Oh, that's a really good one.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
Circase, my guys, When it's all said and done for
Aaron Rodgers, what will be three words that sums up
his career.
Speaker 4 (58:22):
One of the greatest throws of the ball. No matter
what you say, whether you like him, what do you don't? Yes,
he was sensational.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
I still don't understand how he didn't win more championships
with the teams that.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
He's had, some good ones, some really good ones. Man
that they went up against some good ones as well.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
But you can't lose to Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
You can't lose to You had the better team and
you were at home and you lost to Brady and.
Speaker 3 (59:15):
You can't. Can't.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
But he's one of the He's gonna go down as
one of the ten best quarterbacks to ever played. I
don't think you can put him over Officers. You can't
put him over Brady, can't put him over Manny. But
he he was phenomenal. He is as gifted at throwing
the football, rolling left, rolling right.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
From the pocket.
Speaker 1 (59:43):
He can throw him things, he can change armslaughts, and
he threw a beautiful ball. I still don't know how
you didn't win more. Jo Thursday Night about to be
an old Bowl with Flacco and Rogers. Yeah, because rober
it was about to be forty one and Flack.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Was forty right, Yep, yep, Flac was forty.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Jonatavia's caller, can you give my brother tray C a
shout out for his birthday? He had the same birthday
as your daughter? Absolutely, tray C. Your brother Jonathan, want
to give you a shout out? Happy early birthday. Yep,
your birthday is the same day as my oldest Tayler.
I'm sorry, baby, no birthday gifts this year. Yeah, all
(01:00:37):
you get is Daddy love you. Chill cop and say,
how long do you think two will remains the start
of this year? Well, I think he's gonna be the
start of this year. The question is how much long
is he gonna remain in Miami?
Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Almost Zach Wilson time.
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Now, I don't think, I don't. I don't, I don't,
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
I didn't want to do that. Nah, I'm just talking.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
But the question is, O Joe, how much longer does
he remain.
Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
In now that I don't know?
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yeah, that's gonna be very interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Yeah, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.
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twenty five twenty four and the Atlanta Falcons beat the
Buffalo Bills by ten to move to three and two.
As the Bills fall a four and two by a
score of twenty one, excuse me twenty four to fourteen.
Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
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Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
John Robinson had himself a day nineteen carries, a buck
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Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
O Jo
We'll get back to that nice time to welcome in
Grammy nominated rapper. They tell me he's a great hooper.
They say he one of the best hoopers in the
rap game. They say, hey, when you come up, everybody,
all of a sudden they can't find the shoes. He
has an album coming out, Karma four, that will be
released actually on my daughter's birthday ten fifteen, twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Here yours, Davies, Dave, what.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Do it do? Bo?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
What up my boy? I'm good? We got more Joe, Oh, Joe,
it up done?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Chilling Man, chilling Man? What's good? Everything good?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Anything healthy, bro, I'm looking at the Karma four features
collaborations Nepsey Hustle with Khalifa, you Got Larry June, Key,
Clock Mazzi, Jeremiah jac Quez, Mano. Tell us a little
bit about the album. What makes this album so special
for you all?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Is my first official independent joint.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
I mean I've been signed since I came in the game,
like twenty fifteen. I was signed with NAS early on.
I went on the Depth gym, so it feel good
to you know, put it all together myself and the
last call I dropped was twenty twenty so than five
years since I did that, touched into that series, So
it feel good.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, when it comes to make an album, especially with
when you have collaboration like you do, how difficult is
it to have everybody on the same page, you know,
Hey listen, I need I need, I need a verse,
I need to do this, see you to beat? How
difficult is to complete the album of this magnitude when
we have collapsed like that.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Oh yeah, it's yeah, No, it takes a while, you
know what I mean, because everybody got different schedules, everybody
running around doing whatever they're doing. So I would say
the hardest part is just the time, you know what
I mean, Like I had, I had. It was a
few features I had that got right at the end,
you know what I'm saying, Like righto, I turned it out, Thank.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You, bro, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
But I would say, overall, everybody that I worked with
on this album, whom I got a personal relationship with,
so it was nothing was forced, you know what I mean,
It was it was all natural. Everybody got back to
me when they could.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
It was it was love.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And it's always nice to have a personal relationship because
is it like when you will a big studio, they
reach out and do a lot of this for you.
And because like, okay, ay, such and such, you know,
Sony Epic or whoever, Capitol Records or whatever the case
may be. But now because you say I got a
personal relationship, hey, you just pick up the phone and
hit him your damn self.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
That's a fact. That's one hundred percent fact. I ain't
got no middle.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Man with that.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
The artwork for Karma four is an homage to Tupac's
iconicag magazine covers you, which recently celebrated anniversary. Who are
some of like, obviously when you do this, like the
Tupac thing, So obviously Tupac was a big inspiration for you,
But who's some of the other inspirations. Who are some
of the rappers You're like, Okay, I kind of like
I kind of like their style. I kind of liked
(02:56):
their beat.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Growing up, I was a big big okay, I was
of course naves hole DMX. DMX really probably made me
feel like I wanted to like write my own rap.
I would probably I would get at the DMX God
bless his soul. It was a lot back then for me,
(03:20):
like just coming up. I never was really in a box.
I listened to Snoop Dog Pam, I listened to Outcasts
in Atlanta. I listened to basically everything that was coming
out of New York.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Rough Riders, all of that.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Dip said, I gotta, I got an ear for a lot,
you know what I mean? So I think me growing
up and paying attention to all of them different styles,
it gave me my style, Like musically, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
The cover was that your idea or was that, well,
you're independent now, so it had to be your ideal.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
It was it was like, you know what, you know what?
That was my So, my my cousin chick. He's a
diehod like I love pop. I got tatted on me.
But he's a die hard, die hard like every lyric.
He know all the unreleased ship that nobody never heard. Like,
he's a pop Pok fan, you feel me. So one
(04:11):
day we're in the studio chopping it up, and he said, Yo,
I gotta I got a record on the album called Crazy.
He was like, yo, for that video, I'm gonna put
on this because and he kind of looked like pop.
He got the ball. He reminded me of pop my cousin.
But he like, Yo, I'm gonna do the straight jacket
in the video, you know what I'm saying, And we're
gonna we're gonna recreate the park. I'm like, nah, I'm
(04:32):
gonna put the straight jacket on. Like so I basically
kind of took his idea with you know what I mean.
But I remember that vibe, that that that issue when
Pac was on that cover. Me and Poc got a
lot of similarities, I believe, just in just uh beyond
the just the music, to the actor, the Gemini, It's
(04:54):
I just got a lot of connections to Tupac, And
I felt like, with me being independent now and a
lot of things I've been through, it's enough to drive
you to the edge, you know what I'm saying, And
I think I balance it well. So I really wanted
to pay how much the Tupac.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
With the cover that's basically was the gist of that,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Hey, right now, I'm gonna say, but when it comes
to to the era of music that we're in now,
the sound, the way people rap, obviously, when when you
think about New York rappers, you think about lyricists actually
being able to understand what everybody is saying. You have
an ear for the game. You've been in the game
for a very long time.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Is it easy to to stay true to being a
lyricist being that you from New York, or wanting to
adjust to the sound of how music.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Is right now or the time that we're in. It
changes every ten years.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Right, I think I think in any lane, you gotta
you gotta be able to you know, and whatever's going
on to what you got going on. That's the word
I was looking for. You gotta be able to adapt,
because I think if you don't adapt, then then your
sound becomes dated. Your sound becomes the old, you know
(06:12):
what I mean. Nobody wants to be the old. So
I think with me, I gotta do it my way.
I gotta stick to what I know, stick to what
I love. But I'm always my ears always to the
streets to what's going on today, you know what I mean.
So production wise, what I'm talking about, the lingo or
I'm up to date with all of that with the
(06:33):
kids is talking about, you know what I mean. So
I'm gonna always add that into the music and what
I'm talking about on the songs. You know what I'm saying.
So the kids that might be ten to fifteen, twenty
years younger than me, they can still be like, oh,
I know what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Okay, Dave.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But the thing is it's really tough to adapt because
you have a sound and people are used to that sound,
and a lot of times when people try to get
out of that box, people like, man, I don't like
the old Dabies, I don't like this new Davy. And
so you have to walk a tight rope of like
giving the people the original, the O. G. Davies that
they're used to hearing while trying to sprinkle some new
(07:14):
flavor in because it is a fine line because you
hear a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Man, I like the old sound better all the time,
all the time.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
But you know what I tell people to that bro
I feel like with music, for me, I can only
speak for myself. With music is like what am I
going through at that time? Where's my life at that time?
So a lot of that, A lot of times people
like the music. When I was still living in the projects,
I was I was broke. I was trying to figure
(07:43):
it out. To Bay, I ain't had no jewelry. I
ain't had no calls, so I might have sounded like
I was starving, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
I don't when I go back and listen to it,
I don't really hear too much the difference besides my voice,
my tone of my voice.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I got older.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
But I feel like that you can never like you
can't have the same child twice, you know what I mean.
Like that's how I kind of treated like in each
one of my bodies will work. It's like a it's
like a kid like you know what I mean. Like
I put a certain amount of time into that project.
I was emotionally going through this during this project, like
you know what I mean, Like I can't recreate those feelings.
(08:19):
I can't recreate people that might have died and was
around me while I was making that music and the
energy I was getting off for them and now they're
not around them. I mean, so it's like, yeah, people
don't know that it takes to putting into.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
The music, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
So yeah, I think it's just growth, bro like, and
the people that really really rock with me, they grow
with me, you know what I mean, Like as time
go on, they grow with me.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You played college ball at the University of Richmond, transferred
to towsand clearly did you did you have hoop dreams
or whether you like you know what? Were you rapping
and hooping at the same time.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I never was. I never thought I was gonna be
no rapper. I never I never seen that. I thought
the league, that's all my mall, my pops, my grandmother,
that's you know. By the by the time I made
it to college playing ball, that's all I had been
pushing up to that point, like my family was behind it.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, that that just went left, you.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Know what I mean. But the talent was there I had.
I was blessed with all of the height, everything. God
gave me all the tools I needed to play basketball.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
It was just my my mindset at seventeen eighteen years old.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It wasn't what it needed to be disciplined and structured.
So who who's your team? And what? In basketball?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
In the in the NBA, MANI knicks, I gotta go.
I gotta go next, man, you know what I mean,
I gotta go. I gotta go.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Big and wide. Bro, I gotta go next. They they'll
let you down. They didn't let me.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
They have a lot in my lifetime. I've been here
a whole.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
While all your your entire lifetime, you're not some of
your life.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
My pops can remember last time.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
They you know what I mean, they got so yeah.
But I'm a I'm a I'm a Knicks fan, Bro,
I'm at the games.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I rap them, you know what I mean. I'm I'm
gonna rib in New York.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Because everybody when we talked, when I talked, I've interviewed
a lot of uh guys on club Shape. We have
guys here on Nightcap and every name come up with
I talk. They talk about rappers. Who they talking Man,
Big Davies, Man Davey's got real.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Game for real our Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I was talking to Herbo, I was talking to Chris Breezy,
I was talking to Snoop. I was talking to I
was talking to him. Everybody your name if the first
name come up. So I guess you be taking you
be taking these rappers money, Dave.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Now you know what it is.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
I think, To be honest with you, bro, I think
a lot of rappers and I don't know nobody like
they background in their life and all that but I
think once they got on to whatever it is they
got on, got their money, Uh, it became like a
pastime for them, like a hobby, you know what I mean,
like a like something they do in their free time.
Now that they've made it, you know what I'm saying.
(11:10):
Before I ever thought about rapping or making a song,
I was, I was, I was hoping, like you know
what I'm saying, like really really, you know what i mean.
I was on that Like so I feel like that
and in fact that now they got footage out of me.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
They somebody put it in.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Case Wiler nobody now, Huh.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I'm a rapper now, man, I do that. I do
the rap thing now.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Man.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I acted a little bit here and there, but I
fell in love with the music. Ball broke, Basketball broke
my heart. Man, I gave basketball mad years. Yeah, it
ain't go how I wanted it to go. So I
had to hurry up and find something else, you know
what I mean, to kind of save face like my mom's.
And was like, I ain't what you're gonna do now,
Like Blue, you blew that opportunity, which what you I mean?
(11:56):
So I'm I'm thankful for this music. Bro I'm real
thankful for it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Who's your football team?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
The geez Man? The Giants?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Oh y'all?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Yeah yeah, and we just we just we just beat
the birds, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
We just packed them up.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
So, I mean I felt I was actually in attendance
for that win. I felt good, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Hey, y'all know, y'all gonna come to my hot this week, though, Dave,
you know what, They're gonna go too well for y'all.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Man, y'all play le broncos.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You were recently on.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
A part of casting that Mafia Mafia three, So what's
what's mafia?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
What's it? Like?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
That was dope, man like, Like even with that, like
like y'all was just asking me, how do you keep
adapt to what's going?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Like that's dreaming world is a.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Whole it was a whole different animal.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
That wasn't evening going on when I came in.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I ain't been in there that long, but that's super
new and it got all the kids in the headlocked
down to my daughter, that's they was chuled into that.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I put out stuff all the time. They don't care
nothing about it. Come on, you know what I mean.
I'm like, damn, but that was a dope opportunity for me.
Uh and I just saluted.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I was. I was the energy in that in that
crib was fire.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Like.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
They're just like they living like how you would wanted
to live as a kid, you know what I mean,
Like if you could just.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Be They've grown.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
They've grown ass kids, you know what I mean, Like
you can just doing all your homies and a big
ass mentioned doing whatever y'all feel like doing. I think
it's dope, bro. I think it's super dope for them
to invite me up there. Let me let me do
my thing up there.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
That was dope.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
His for his album Karma Ford will be released on
Wednesday the fifteenth. You got got features with Nipsey, Hustle, Wiz,
Khalifa's Larry June, Key Glock Maley, Jeremiah Jack, Wweef, just
to name a few. They thank you for joinings Man,
best of luck on the album, best being Independent, thank
you for coming by Nightcap guys.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I really appreciate.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
That, y'all. Man, You know that all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Sid Dave Ease his new album Karma four drops on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's Calyn's birthday. Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
The Titans have fired by Brian Callahan just six games
into his second season as head coach. His team was
four and nineteen. The Titans were three and fourteen in
Callahan's first season, finishing with the number one pick and selecting.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Cam Ward.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
With Callahan firing, the past four quarterbacks drafted number one overall.
Six of the past eight seed seeing their head coaches
fired during their rookie season Trevor Lawrence, Urban Meyer, Bryce Young,
Frank Wright, Caleb Williams, Matt Eberflus, cam Ward, Brian Callahan ojo.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, you think it's not the coaches. It's not the coaches,
it's the owners. A chat. Stay with me real quick
and understand this. The owners have to understand that when
it comes to football, right, the owners are businessman, huh,
and the stuff that they do, the stuff that they're
passionate and enthusiastic about outside of football. In the business world,
(15:16):
the one way to fix it is you throw money
at it. You throw money at it, and that return
on investment it happens right away. When it comes to
the game of football, it ain't it's Saint a microwavable plate.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
You don't.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
You don't draft a quarterback, have a new coach and
put them out there on the field and think you
all are going to have success right away. That's not
the way it works. That's never been the way it works. Now,
sometimes you get a quarterback, like you get a CJ. Shrouder,
you get lucky, you get a Jade Daniels and you
get lucky. You get a franchise altering quarterback right away.
(15:52):
That changes the trajectory and speeds up the process of
being a consistent team that can win. But listen Brian
Callahan getting fired obviously first year with Camboard. It's it's
not the microwave. It's same food. You can't just put
in there and heat it up and all of a
sudden thing you're gonna have success. It just doesn't happen
(16:15):
like that. It never has.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They don't have patience, So Joe, they're not letting anything develop.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You know, I have.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I used to have a say, and I get my
chickens by smashing the eggs, not by letting them hatch.
There's a process in which an egg cash into a chick.
Lit These what these owners are doing, They're smashing the eggs.
They're not They're not gonna let it hatch. They fired
the general manager, they fired Brable, they fried Ran Carthon
and guess what now, they fried Brian Callahan.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
And what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
They don't know?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
They do my point exactly. So obviously they're not football people.
They're not they're businessmen. O.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
She is Amy Adams.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Okay, I think I think the last pronounced skunk sprunk.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Strunk her father, mister Bud Adams.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
But Adams, yeah, okay, I know who that is.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
He passed away and turned it over to her. I
don't know how involved she was at the time. So
you inherit this business, and if you haven't invested or
spent a whole lot of time in it, you don't
know a whole lot about it.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You're trusting other people to run the business now, at.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Least when Jerry passes away, hopefully that's not for another
hundred years. His kids have been in the business from
day one, so they're gonna understand how this business works.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So they have been a part of it since he
purchased the team in nineteen eighty nine. They've been a
part of it. I don't know how involved she was
with it. So and you're trusting other people, I don't
know how involved they were with it. So it's it's
(18:05):
it's it's it's it's tough, O Joe.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
It's tough. And it's not like.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
A uh, another business, because O Joe, if your business
is not doing well, you just don't You just don't
sell it. You just don't scrap your e start buying
the CEO, start finding the VP to coo oh, you
don't start find a whole bunch of people.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You give it time. You have to.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
You don't have a choice, you have it. Like But
those that are in positions of power, I don't think
they understand how the game of football works. You're drafting
number one for a reason, Yeah, you're terrible. You're drafting
number one for a reason. That quarterback is going to
have its ups and it's downs. Yes, I mean that,
that's just that's the nature of the business.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
But he says, what but these young quarterbacks going to
dysfunctional franchises. If they was functional, he wouldn't be there.
But the hell, there's a reason, and why you got
an opportunity to pick first you're bad?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
How would that be fair?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
That Kansas City win the championship, and then they get
the first pick in the draft. The Eagles win the
champions win the Super Bowl, they get the first pick
in the draft. We talked about this the other day,
is that the Lakers won the championship in eighty two
and guess what they got.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
They got to select James Worthy number one overall. How's
that fair? Right? Damn?
Speaker 7 (19:31):
Yes? No.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So normally the best So normally the collegiate best player
of what is deemed the best player goes to the
worst situation because we want that guy to catch up.
If we just put the worst the best players on
the best teams, they would stay bad.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I just they just they're not gonna give it time
on Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
They're just not gonna give it time because you're gonna
have to pay these quarterbacks. The quarterbacks don't give to
be getting three million dollars three excuse me, three hundred million.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, absolutely, And so there's like, but this is the problem.
This is the problem that scares me. If you only
gave Callahan two years, right, yeah, you get your drafted
cam Ward. I'm not sure how much timey, I'm not
sure how much how many years are on this rookie deal.
Do you have the patience they.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Got, they got four plus to fifty option?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Do you have the patience with him as well? So,
I don't know. Stuff like that scares me. It scares me,
especially when your fire coach that early, knowing that you're
drafting or you're picking in a position you're picking for
a reason. Bringing another coach and still not having the
players is not going to change the goddamn thing.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I'm trying to think a quarterback that didn't. I mean, hey,
Baker Mayfield, what Freddy Kate fire doing Bakers rookie year?
So this is not this is not new. This has
been going on. You go back to Lambs, You go
back to the Lambs decade plus and go back and
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look at them one overall picks and see their quarterbacks
get fired.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
During that first year.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Crazy because a lot of times he was there the
year before and they get the working quarterback and they
get you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah okay, Hugh, Hugh Jack Okay, Okay. So see.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
It's this is this is not this is not something new.
It's been going on. But I think now we're starting, like, damn,
what do you expect from a team that that let
Derrick Henry go. You didn't get anything for him, and
you traded away A J. Brown for Trilling Brook of
Birds and now he's in the he's in the He
(21:54):
was in Denver, I think today or last week working out.
So do you think that is a team that is
a quipped You let Dad Henry walk out the door,
Scott Free, You traded A J.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Brown. You the best you got.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
You had one of the better coaches, Mike Brable, and
you fired him.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Damn, who's gonna be the next coach?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Well, Mike McCoy. It was on the staff, so he's
taken over. He was the head coach at the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
He was in he was.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Offensive coordinator in Denver when the never went to that
Super Bowl and they got the doors blown off them.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
But he uh, he's the sad he was at the
he was I think there was San Diego then and
ended up moving. They went to the playoffs his first year,
but then he ended up losing his job. So he's
the interim coach at this point in time. I just
don't think. I just don't think, Uh, they have an idea.
(23:02):
You trade your best player the best coach you've had
in a very very long time. You fire him. You're
going through two three general managers in a span of
five years. That's not that's not the continuity that you
need in order to build a winning program. I just don't.
I just don't. I don't know if they're gonna get
it right this time around.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Y'all, well, listen, listen if they don't, if they don't
get it right, we might as well put our goddamn
name Manhattan. See we can come away with get us
a little opportunity. You know, we could diversify our portfolio.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
No, I'm good. My portfolio is diversified.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Okay, okay, it don't it. Don't hurt that a little more. Now,
can you imagine? Shannon Sharp, manager Tennessee Titan.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I've made it abundantly clear.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I want no part I want to cover the NFL
in this capacity. I don't want to work for an
organization in any capacity.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Mike Tomlin openly western the Browns in general manager Andrew
Berry for trading Joe Flacco to the Bengals. Oh cho,
Let's take a listen to what Mike t had to say.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us,
because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a
quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening
day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
But that's just my personal feelings.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Look, Mike Tito, that's not his style. Mike t don't
normally involve me. Hey, he always say that's not us,
that's not the Pittsburgh Stevens business. Right, But why you
think Mike t h stepped out of character?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Well, listen, they asked him a question, You asked him
a question. He gained something different. He gained something different,
and obviously even he has to always showface and be
someone that he truly not. You know what I feel
like being myself today? I like that one thing I
told young that I want coaches, I want players the
obviously start doing. Sometimes I want to tell the truth.
Sometimes I want to say say exactly how they feel.
(25:06):
I want the locker room talk, the conversations that had
to be said in front of camera. Now, what he
just said, just there is something he would say if
there were no cameras rolling. I enjoyed that. That's authenticity.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
You know, so you like what Tua said? Who Tua?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
No, I don't like that part.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
That's authenticity.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
No, no, no, I don't like that. See I'm listen.
That's I'm not. I'm not throwing nobody dow nder the bus.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
You said you wanted authenticity.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
And you're not. You know, listen to me. I don't
like the snitching on people. I don't like that part.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You won't authenticity. You get the pick and choose what's authentic.
If it's authentic, you want it. That's what you said.
Chat Is that what he said?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
That that you're confusing. You don't don't put authentic and
snitching together. That's that's not that's not together. I like.
I like Mike thomas answer because it's something most coaches are.
Most those people wouldn't say in front of the camera.
So the fact that he did say it and it
was out of character for him as a head coach,
means it's authentic. That's how he really feels.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
So let me your question.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Who did is too? It was snitching and throwing people
under the bus that he got.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Were they late? Were they late? Did they miss? Did
he lie? I wouldn't what Tour said, is what he
was said? If the cameras weren't.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
There, that's that's called snitching on cameras are not. You
said you want people to be authentic. Now you want
them to be authentic.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Sometimes you see you're going from you're going from one
spectrum to the other. So if we would talking about two,
I would say that snitching like I did yesterday. But
now we talk about Mike tomins.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Is he being truthful? Is he being truthful? Yeah? Who Tour?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I don't know. We weren't there. We don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
He's hold on you. How can it be if if
if he can't be snitching.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Then we weren't there.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
We weren't there, so he ain't snitching. No's how you
know you weren't.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
There exactly because just the context and perspective of what
I have to go off and you saying what we
shouldn't you what I said?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Nothing.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Let me say something. We shouldn't know anything about what's
going on in that locker room. It shouldn't as a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
We shouldn't know anything about what Mike Tom was thinking.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Why not try to compare the two I just said?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You said you want authenticity you said you want people to.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Tell the truth. Who was telling the truth.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
He was telling what he experienced, Guys coming late, guys missing.
You didn't like that cause you said it's snitching. But
you said you just wanted people to tell the truth.
You want people.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I want people to be themselves.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
They said, wait a minute, stay stay with me, Stay
with me now. Now, I don't mind. I don't like
the snitching part. You don't throw your teammates under the bus.
As a cat and as a quarterback, you always take
issues and put them on yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
That I do.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Now, Mike Tomlin just giving his his his perspective based
on you know, the Browns letting joke come to the Bengals.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Sure, just give me his perspective of why they're losing.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
No, stop stop trying.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I just go bout what you say.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
If you say you want people to live in their truth,
you say you said, I just want people sometimes, I
just want people to come up there and tell what's
on their mind. That's what you told me. I said, Oh, Joe,
you can't do that. You say, why not, unh, I said,
because it is a been a detriment to the team.
You say, I don't care. I just want it to
be true. I just want people to stay. You say, stay,
(28:49):
stay with me, just for a second, stay with me
right now. I said, okay, I'm gonna stay with you.
O Jo, I don't understand what you don't understand. I understand.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Listen, all tour did will say, God, why we're losing.
We got the reason why we're losing is that when
we have a meeting and we schedule a meeting, our
guys gonna show up? Are they going to show up
on time? When we say we're gonna do this? Are
we gonna do it?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Tell what he's saying the truth?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
That ain't nobody in business? That ain't nobody. You know,
you don't conduct yourself like that as a player about
your players. You know that you don't put that business
out there like that. You don't do that. Basically, you know,
if he was on trial, you know he done got
everybody in trouble. We all go in to jails the tour.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I know.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
So in other words, you don't want people telling the
truth all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Come again, So you're saying you don't want people to
tell the truth all the time, correct, I.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Don't want people snitching snitching. There's a difference. You're confusing
someone snitching and someone being authentic in their answer based
on the active of the question that they're asked. Those
are two different scenarios.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
How about this here, snitching only takes place in the street,
the street of snitching. When you partaking that activity, you're
supposed to be a cold. You and I do not
partake in that.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
It ain't well. There's also an NFL code. Anything what
is it inside that locker room should not be talking
about in front of cameras or at home.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
So we shouldn't tell the truth all the time. Huh.
So we should tell the truth all the time.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, you should. You just shouldn't snitch.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
This band.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
We gotta live by a code. If we don't live
by a code, what are we living for?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
So we got so the locker room got the same
code as the street.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yes, yeah, what you mean? Yes, the same, it's the same.
Got to live by the cold. I'm just saying, yeah,
you gotta live by the cold.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
And listen, it's an unwritten rule too. Somebody didn't even
have to explain it. You just understand and know in
that environment, what you can and cannot do.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
That's not as a quarterback in the NFL or coach
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
There are things that you can and cannot do.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Thank you. That's all I want to hear. We move on,
thank you. That's all I wanted you to say.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Right right, But then you have some people like myself
that that choose to do the opposite.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yes, that's all I wanted you to say. Oh yo,
I'm like, bit this bad, but hey, I'll go up there.
But I why can't the quarterback you put people on blast?
Why can't the quarterback? Hey show you no good will?
That quarterback can't do that?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Can?
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Moore came out and said, I'm gonna be honest with y'all. Man,
We fucking asked like. That was refreshing. Humph, that was refreshing.
I get tired of hearing that goddamn same old rhetoric
police to be correct, from the same goddamn screw.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
It was refreshing that that tour told us the truth
that God's be coming in late, that God be missing things.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
It was no, it was not, Hey, that god damn campboard.
Now that was some funny.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Ship asking the ass tour what's going on All tour
said the reason one of the reasons we might be
we gotta take it serious. We gotta make up our minds.
Are we gonna come in on time? Or the meetings
that we schedule, are we gonna attend them? He was
just being honest.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeah, I got you, I got you. Oh shoot, this man.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Had told me.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
This man been telling me it's fresh and it's a
breath of fresh air.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
It is like, but you didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I don't know, but I understand you said you want it.
I didn't want it because I understand the ramifications that
come along with it, because I don't know, you know.
According to reports s NY Network, Tyrod Taylor has the
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support of some people in the Jets building as there
to be one over Fields. They feel like Justin was
given the job without any competition. Yes he was. Justin
Fields got two years at forty million, and Tyrod got
back up money.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
M hm, Hey, I'm I'm mad things aren't working out. Honestly,
To be honest, I really I really thought, I really
thought this has been really really good. Finally, Justin Fields,
you get your opportunity, you get your team, you get
to be quarterback number one. You don't have to look
over your shoulder. You don't have to worry about you know,
(33:46):
Russell Wilson or or you know, being pulled to understand
whenever you comes Cargo. Yeah, Chicago, And I'm like, God, damn.
Finally he gets his team. He goes to a place
where they actually want him. Correct were they actually on him?
And that's one of the greatest feelings in the world.
And for some reason, obviously it just hadn't panned out.
(34:11):
It hadn't panned out the ways as good as Justin
feels is. I've seen the flashes of brilliance from him,
whether it be throwing the ball, whether it be running
the ball or escaping the pocket and just just extending plays.
I mean, he can do it and just have to
find a way to string string all those qualities together consistently.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Over and over look, Tyrod is not the athletic feenom
that he's not. I mean Tyrod when he came into
the league. Now Trod was athletic Virginia Tech.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Now he can go.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Now he was the backup to Joe Flacco when they
won the championship. He took Buffalo to the playoffs. Ty
Rock can play absolutely can. He could play, and so
I agree with you. But for whatever reason, it hasn't
clicked yet for justin fields. It still takes a while
(35:07):
for him to process it.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
O Yoe.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
And you know, at this level, at that level of
which he's playing at what you and I played at
that clock's gotta go off, guys, they're gonna be running
scott free.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Go yeah, guys are not gonna be running Scott Free.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
You gotta throw, guys open, you gotta you gotta throw
with great anticipatory skills.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
And right now it's just like he's glitching.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
You can't hand on to that ball, brut This ain't
seven on seven? They coming.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I think I think they give him a couple more games,
o't Joe? I do?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Absolutely. I mean it's too soon. It's too soon to
pull the plug right.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Now, Oh Joe, I'm not going oh to nine and
not make changes. I've got to make some changes.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
What are they right now?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
The six? I go to O? And seventh? O N eight?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
What what come on with Yoe? What you want me
to go on? And fifteen? Before I make a move.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
It's the next three games. And you know, once you
once you make that move if you go from if
you go from Justin Fields, the Tyrod Taylor, that just
that just erases and scratches everything.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
As far as him, Well, I'm trying to win games.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Okay, about the future Panthers, Okay.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Bengals, Browns.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Ship, that's tough.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
It's either now never. He won't get an easier stretch, easier,
he won't get an easier stretch.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
You just did you just hit it?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
How many games of the Panthers won? Two? Three? The
three and three? Right?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Did you just see that the Panthers demolished the Cowboys?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Or no, they're three and three? Okay, what what are
the Bengals two and four? What's Cleveland? Two and four?
Browns are one and five? So you got three and three,
two and four and a one and five? Not to
give me the next three?
Speaker 4 (37:04):
They got it. They got a chance of winning winning
one out of those three because they ain't beating the
pants of the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Then they got the Patriots, Ravens, Falcons, Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Okay, they might be the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Well, they might beat the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Now Lamar be back by then. Hey, if things don't
go well, do you even bring lamar back at all,
or you just let them.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, okay, being fifty million dollars, you damn right, I'm
bringing it back.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Hell, you talking about.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
The no chance at the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I mean, who said they ain't got no chance at
the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I'm just saying if they don't depending on when he
comes back.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Well, I mean, look, they're on the bye week this week,
so this will be three weeks almost four weeks a month.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
How severe was the hamstring injury?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Oh well, he'll be back there, He'll be back next week.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Then James Franklin is required to look for another job
in coaching or broadcasting. According to the copy of the
Penn State contract obtained by Front Office Sport, if Franklin's
new job pays him less than the eight million he's
old annually through twenty thirty one, PennState only owes him
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the difference, so he's required. I don't know why he
put that in his contract. Crazy. I don't know why
his agent let him. His agent couldn't have been Jimmy Sexton,
because ain't no way Jimmy Sexton let you put that
in your.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Contract, right, Hell to the note.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
You fired me. Don't worry about what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna draw a pension from you. That's what I'm
gonna do. I'm worried about my check. Everything else. Ain't
your business exactly?
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Definitely, am, That's that's unfortunate. You never want to see
anybody lose their job. But who that sucks?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Now?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
You got to pick up and leave get and been
there for a while. See, that's why I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Coach Jimmy let him put that in that Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, but hell no, I'm on who was Jimbo Fisher's agent,
the guy that he got eighty that he got eighty million,
and he ain't got to do nothing out of the
jim I mean you see Kirby Smarts buy out of
one hundred and eighteen million.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
God listen, Kirby Smart won't have to It won't be
in that position no time soon.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Ain't no way what happened he got? I mean, Jimmy
Sexton is the coaches got. I mean probably what you say,
seventy percent of the coaches, probably seventy percent of the coaches.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Jimmy Sexton represents them.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Okay, n I ain't looking for no job you want,
Jimmy told represent us. You sure you don't want to
put your hand in that? Put your hat now.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Hired?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Who Jimmy?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Oh barstools go hiring for one dollar? So they are
if seven million, nine hundred ninety nine thousand, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Work one day a week, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
But I'm not, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
We've been talking about this for like the last three weeks,
and I'm not surprised by this. And they are Penn State,
they were just in the college football playoffs. I said,
I get all that I said, but go back and
look at this record against top ten teams. He's beaten
one top ten team in the Big Ten since he's arrived.
That was in twenty sixteen, he beat Ohio State. He's
four and twenty one. The athletic director Specie specifically stated
(40:41):
it was against big games. You can't win big games.
Now you losing to Northwestern. Now you losing to UCLA
who hadn't hadn't led all season alone, hadn't won any games.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, they got you got to go.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Yeah that sucks, man, You got to go. That sucks.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
You got to go.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
I hate to see I people lose their job.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Too, Ojo. But when you know when you coaching. There's
volatility in coaching. Coaching is just like the military or
being a a Pentecostal minister. You know, you got to
move around.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Even if you got to move around on Penn State,
Ohio State, Penn State, Georgia, Penn State. Let's see, you
know Oregon or any of those ACC and SEC teams,
they're just better. They got better players. There were reasons
they were four and twenty one. There's a reason you
only beat Ohio State one times in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
They say, we've been invested five hundred million in upgrades
to Beaver Stadium, we paid top dollar for defensive coordinator,
we paid top dollar to keep some of these these
these upper class but and no, no, no, we're not
going for it. Your Penn State. Yeah, you're Penn State.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
You're basing everything off the name you the Dallas Cowboys. Now,
what's that? What's that guy in you in the past
thirty years?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
What's the thing? Jerry?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
See, here's the thing. Jared is great at marketing. Penn
State say nah mm hmm. And here's the thing, Oh, Joe,
you know those uniforms. I mean, bro, you got black cleats,
you got no name on the back of your jersey.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I mean, I don't know. Do they got names on
the back of the jersey?
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Oh it's plain Penn State uniform is playing.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
White white helmets. Come on, brow, How you sell that
when you're getting haircut, You can get a haircut in
the organ, in the locker room, you get fifty different
You get fifty different, you get fifty different uniforms, and.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
You get to keep them all. But how you compete
with that?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
How you compete with Ohio State with what they got
going on in Michigan and Georgia and the Alabama's and the.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Texas and the Texas A and M. But I'm paying you.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Jane Franklin making eight million dollars, so they're paying him
like you're a big time coach. You gotta deliver with
Joe's coaching only take you so far when well you
should what he should have said, you know what? You
know what, don't pay me this because I can't. I
can't deliver like that, So don't give me no tenure extension.
You take their money, there's an expectation, you know what
happens on Joe when you take the money. There's an
(43:29):
expectation of what every time. Results must follow every time.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
It's so.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
But that's what that's what comes along with it and coaching.
You get into coaching.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Yeah, I see, that's why we should do it. I'm
telling you.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Oh no, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Uh time for our final segment of the evening is
time for Q and A.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Hey man, we could be like a package here.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
No, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Saying go ahead, No, I want to. I like snitching.
De Town said, Oh, Choe is right. You can be
authentic without snitching.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Thank you, thank you. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
You're real.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
You cannot be if you are a coach or a
quarterback at the highest levels, you cannot be authentic.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Hold on, uncle, I was authentic.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
You play quarterback?
Speaker 4 (44:34):
Damn near.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Okay, I believe the Broncos have the team to go
all the way to the super Bowl. Let's go Broncos.
Eighty four should be retired, Kemp. I mean, we look,
we gotta play a little better offensively. But it seems
to me, if I had to guess, Sean Payton was
very conservative, saying, look, if we don't put the ball
in harm's way, they can't drive to beat us. You
see that offense over There is anemic, it's pathetic, it's pedestrian.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
So with that being said, they're.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Gonna have to play a lot better, uh Sunday against
the Giants because that performance that they put on the
field offensively will not get it done. Get it done
Sunday against the Giants. Oh, Joe pitt Cincinnati, you owe
me that jersey from last year's bet. I'll let you
slide because you're having a rough season. It's gonna get
worse over under two and a half, two point five.
(45:24):
How many tackle would Jamar Chase have on Thursday?
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Uh? None? Because we're gonna win that game. We definitely
gonna win this game. A division rival steal is coming
in Thursday night. You know, crowd going going crazy. It
can be about forty degrees.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
You know it get cold in Pittsburgh too.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
Oh yeah, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
So I don't think the weather's gonna have an impact.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Let's see who do I want? I want Aaron Rodgers,
I want Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco and Roger
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Oh so is that how you feel? Is that how
you feel? Okay? Okay? And you're only saying that a
joke because because Aaron Rodgers playing well.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Right now, your guy hadn't played well in a while
since the Super Bowl in twenty twelve.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Okay, I just saw my guy have a seventeen a
seventeen play drive down the field after halftime and he
only been there for seventeen minutes. He's been on for
seventeen minutes, and he took our team down the field
and drove.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
He'll look worse on Thursday.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Trust me, let's bet. Okay, right now, I don't want
to bet.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
But no, I don't want to bet. Ts car Washing
detail service. Y'all had bling bling on yesterday yesterday night.
Will Russ ever play in an NFL game again?
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I mean, hell, I think he better than flaccoh That's
just me personally. I'm trying to think. Question, is it
is he okay? Being a backup?
Speaker 8 (47:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (47:27):
I mean you have to know your role as as
you get further into your career, as you get older,
you understand you can't do the things you once did
when you were young. You're not in that position anymore.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
I get it. Yeah, see that's how you think it.
But let me ask you a question. Tell me what
quarterback thinks like that.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Hey, And that's the hard part, and knowing knowing when
the journey is over, knowing when you're not the main character.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
You still have over the quarterback that things like that,
considering the man got three hundred plus touchdown passes, he's
won a Super Bowl, he's been to eight Pro Bowls.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Hey, that resume looks beautiful.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah, and you think he's gonna be okay to be
at the backup huh hm?
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Hey, Hey, I mean, listen, reality has to set it
at some point. It just does. It just does. And
if I agree, if you don't believe it, they'll show you.
How about that? And they showed him, Oh you still
think you're a starter, Well let me show you why
you're not.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
And you know he got eight million a lot of backups.
Now that thing for to go down, that thing for
to go down to like two or three million, damn
and two or three million by the time you move
your family, get the family all up there, and get
a place that's big enough worth it. I don't know
where Russ want to live. I don't know if he's
want to live in Seattle or he wants to live
(48:59):
in I don't I don't even know where where Russ
is from. I don't know where Sierra's from, but I
don't know mm hm, Patrick Donovan Ocho, let's bet loser
shaves his eyebrows hashtag Steelers Steelers are rumored to get Tyreek.
(49:19):
Now that that can't happen, maybe go after a J Brown, Oyo.
If I get my eyebrows, can I get a signed jersey?
Speaker 7 (49:27):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (49:28):
I get your jersey, but I ain't playing my eyebrows.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
You ain't got no eyebrow.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Oh, hey, JD, you're that he wanted to get that
man of jersey but won't give you your jersey.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
J Up.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
You might have do something bad to Ocho.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Hey, whatever you want to do, let me know I'm here.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
JJ Carver said, Ojo really dressed up as as his shadow.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Ocho dressed up like an intern.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
Why n Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you. I went to
the concert. I had a good time with the kids.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Bid says, Now, Uncle Ojo tell me with the straight
face that jon not the best running back in the
league this year.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Rids up.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah, yeah, you'll get no debate from us right now,
he is said, ear. I mean it's you know, he
and Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor been putting up stats too.
I don't know if you noticed it, but uh, he
leading the league in Russia. But yeah, Bijon has been
phenomenal this year. Yeah, he's out played He's out played
c Max, He's out played Derrick Henry, He's out played Saquan.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Right now is just he and Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
Casey Taylor said, Oh, I need you to copy and paste.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
This message to Weezy. F. You're wheezy.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
I know you know if you Drake and Barbie release
a trio album, only y'all would do numbers on numbers. Weezy.
I need it, Weezy, we need it. F is for flawless. Yeah,
I know, I know. Wheezy ain't listen to me when
it comes to the music. Who they he let you
(51:03):
listen to me.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
You know we collab before.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
King.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
He said, Lord, have Mercy l A and A Maritals
for the World Series. Good pitching tonight it looked like
the Dodgers gonna go.
Speaker 4 (51:20):
They gonna they gonna win again. They just went last.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Year, gonna win again.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
You see who they got show Hey, Mookie, Freddy Freeman,
Bernandez Boy good. Yeah. Uh, Drew Freddie Freeman as a
playoff monster. Let's go Dodgers here? Did they win again?
I sure hated Atlanta? Let it let Brady go. Freddie
was Freddy. Freddie was the braves chipper. He was chippering.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Do you know what happened? I feel on that turf
over there?
Speaker 4 (51:56):
Yeah? Hey, I ain't felt that in about thirteen years.
Why hit that shower?
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, you don't know a lot of you don't know
a lot of bumps and bruises.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
You got to that adrenaline well off of you getting
that damn water hit that water, hit it. Jason Zeldorf said,
dark as a dog. We coming from the the NFC.
Each crown we put in foot to you know where
next week against the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Dark is way better than Fields.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Hey, I can't jesus Scotty bout gonna run pass certained over.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Boy? Please we got something for that for scatter boat yep?
Speaker 4 (52:34):
Oh yeah, all right, I ain't got nothing scat pack
all right.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Desmond Wilson rives up. Falcons look good tonight. Can y'all
shout out my brother man Zach Fraser Zach, Yeah, Falconts
did look good. I'll give it to him. They look good.
B Jon random ball well, Drake London was catching it. Uh,
Pennis through the ball well defense got after Josh Allen
sacked him several times.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Did a great job stopping to run initially.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
But yeah they played well to pick them off twice.
Rise up Falcons, Janna Mitchell unkin o Jo. Do you
believe the twenty nineteen LSU Tigers with Burrow, Jella and
Jamar could beat the twenty sixteen Browns?
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Is it possible?
Speaker 4 (53:17):
For Oh? Damn it? No, you're tripping man? Hell nah
what Uh?
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Alex I'm saying, Oh how how you hit Slade so
hard that you knocked yourself out?
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (53:39):
I knocked both of us out. I did, But I
hit it. I hit it with with I dealt my head.
I should have just caught it with that flipper. Chris
Slaide on a Monday night, JJ, please tell people how
good that?
Speaker 2 (53:58):
What are you? One?
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Um team that might be the best team in college
football history. Go back and look at go back and
look at those guys, y'all. Do realize Sean Taylor with
special teams and Trail Road they had and Trail Rolle
they had a Phillip B Caanna. They had Clinton Porters,
Frank Gore, Williams mcgahey, they had Jeremy Shockey, they had
(54:23):
K two. They had another tight end that ended up
going to the NFL for the I think it was Ever.
I think he went to Buffalo. Man, look at it.
Off Is Brian McKinney, McDougall.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
They had a.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
Nose tackle Vince Vince Walford.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
They had like sixteen first rounders on that team.
Speaker 4 (54:47):
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
All in the linebackers, Bilma Dbs Williams. Yeah, real, Carter
y'all remember Courtland versus Andre Lord. Yes, but see that
was in the field to play. Now, had they did
that in the field to play, they probably would have
got a jack. They got five boom.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
But afterwards, Hey, every.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
So often, David amos, my Pats are coming. The Pats
do look good, the past do look good. And guess what,
Buffalo do not look invincible anymore. And they've already gone
to Buffalo and beat them once. Saucy Deep speaking on
what Tua said, Jerry Goff said last year after the
loss to the Commanders, he couldn't sleep at night for
(55:35):
a month.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
A month.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Bro, I still ain't got over the loss to Jacksonville.
Have been damn there thirty years ago, and I won
three Super Bowls and ain't got a gold jacket.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
They shouldn't beat us.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
I so noah, Uh, what do you do if referees
call it a K cheating the game like they did
in the Bears versus the Commanders. I don't, I didn't.
I didn't notice any any calls. Maybe I missed it. Guys,
y'all gotta stop thinking just because y'all lose the refs
(56:17):
cheating question for Oh, cho, start bench cut, CBS, Fox,
esp and UK.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Start Fox unk.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
Yeah, go ahead on your Fox. I'm definitely starting. And
what was the trade?
Speaker 2 (56:40):
No, start bench cut?
Speaker 4 (56:42):
Yeah, I'm a bench ESPN and I'm I'm gonna cut see.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
A boy a.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
Yeah babe, Yeah, I sure babe, Yeah Fox, but Fox,
let me ack a pure food. Let my here down
saucy across all sports. Who are three athletes that you
enjoyed watching in your life?
Speaker 4 (57:12):
Oh, I gonna go neymar Mayweather, damn Djokovic. I would
(57:39):
say alchaaz, but.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
I'm I'm lebron Serena.
Speaker 8 (57:50):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
Vote.
Speaker 4 (58:05):
Oh, that's a really good one.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
Circase, my guys, When it's all said and done for
Aaron Rodgers, what will be three words that sums up
his career.
Speaker 4 (58:22):
One of the greatest throws of the ball. No matter
what you say, whether you like him, what do you don't? Yes,
he was sensational.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
I still don't understand how he didn't win more championships
with the teams that.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
He's had, some good ones, some really good ones. Man
that they went up against some good ones as well.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
But you can't lose to Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
You can't lose to You had the better team and
you were at home and you lost to Brady and.
Speaker 3 (59:15):
You can't. Can't.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
But he's one of the He's gonna go down as
one of the ten best quarterbacks to ever played. I
don't think you can put him over Officers. You can't
put him over Brady, can't put him over Manny. But
he he was phenomenal. He is as gifted at throwing
the football, rolling left, rolling right.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
From the pocket.
Speaker 1 (59:43):
He can throw him things, he can change armslaughts, and
he threw a beautiful ball. I still don't know how
you didn't win more. Jo Thursday Night about to be
an old Bowl with Flacco and Rogers. Yeah, because rober
it was about to be forty one and Flack.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Was forty right, Yep, yep, Flac was forty.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Jonatavia's caller, can you give my brother tray C a
shout out for his birthday? He had the same birthday
as your daughter? Absolutely, tray C. Your brother Jonathan, want
to give you a shout out? Happy early birthday. Yep,
your birthday is the same day as my oldest Tayler.
I'm sorry, baby, no birthday gifts this year. Yeah, all
(01:00:37):
you get is Daddy love you. Chill cop and say,
how long do you think two will remains the start
of this year? Well, I think he's gonna be the
start of this year. The question is how much long
is he gonna remain in Miami?
Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Almost Zach Wilson time.
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Now, I don't think, I don't. I don't, I don't,
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
I didn't want to do that. Nah, I'm just talking.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
But the question is, O Joe, how much longer does
he remain.
Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
In now that I don't know?
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yeah, that's gonna be very interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Yeah, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.
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The Bears will walk off field goal beat the Commanders
twenty five twenty four and the Atlanta Falcons beat the
Buffalo Bills by ten to move to three and two.
As the Bills fall a four and two by a
score of twenty one, excuse me twenty four to fourteen.
Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Atlanta B.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
John Robinson had himself a day nineteen carries, a buck
seventy and a touchdown and also chipped in with six
catches for sixty eight yards. Drake London ten for buck
fifty eight and a touchdown almost got another one stepped
out of bounds right as the time ended, right before
the half. Thank you for joining us. We're off tomorrow,
which is Tuesday. We'll see you here Wednesday. Thank you guys,
(01:02:50):
appreciate the support again.
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O Jo
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