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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, DeShawn Jackson threw some gasoline on the AJ Brown
Jalen her relationship d Jack said, as you can tell
if something else going on. And I got a great
relationship with him. I respect him, I can say it,
but I know something else is going on. It's not
all about football. It's not all about x's and o's.
I have a relationship with the quarterback and I didn't
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necessarily like and when they hate there, it sticks like
a sore thumb. It's all I'm gonna say. Now we
know he didn't have the greatest relationship with Donovan mcnaw.
I guess he was telling the story about D Jack
was one of the first players I think he got
He was first team. I think he was a first
team a pro. He was a pro BO a receiver
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and a Pro BO but returner, like the first time
that a player had been selected to the Pro Bowl
in two positions. And he said that Donovan said something
to the to the fact that I don't think he
should have made it exist. I don't know that's what
D Jack was telling the story, but he has a
straight hads or had. I don't know the relationship currently
A strained relationship with d mac d Jack say something
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else going on. That's all he gonna say. He ain't
gonna say no more with you, right, he said, but
there's something going on. Oh Yo, you were a wide
receiver as far as I know, you had a great
relationship with all your quarterback Na Carson, Uh, anybody else
in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, I mean Mitchell. Yeah. I've never had any issues
and never had issues no, no, no gripes obviously with
the quarterbacks with which to me. To me, if you
think about me, Joe, you you know me for a while,
you know me for a while, not just on the show,
but before you know. I'm very likable. I'm very likable.
Not in the setting, just like this talking on the mic.
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But hell, come on, man, see I see you know Spanish, right,
I see I see Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I got you.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
But I'm very likable, Joe, and I'm easy to get
along with in any environment. Hey, Joe, I walk in
the room. Boy, I lighted the whole goddamn room.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I'm the same way in the locker room. So I've
never had any issues with any quarterbacks. When it's time
to work, you know what, when you're on nightcap up
that room. I light the room?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Did you said?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I heard? I heard you? I heard I love I
love everybody. I love everybody. So I ain't really have
no problems. I never understood why receivers get into it
with the quarterback and they the ones that got to
get him the ball?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Hey, why they call y'all divas? Why they call him
receivers divas?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
You know, they always look for a word to use
when we when we're not when we're not aligned in
how they view we should be. Like, that's that's what
they find a word to use. When we don't, when
we don't conform to the ways they think we should act,
they find a word to use. They call it a diva.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Oh, he don't want to get with the program. You
know what, he's a diva. Oh he don't want to
be a political robot. Oh he's a diva. Oh he
has personality. Oh he likes to be an individual and
and express himself. Yeah, he's a diva. Just a bunch
of bullshit, Joe, that's all it is, right, I got.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
You name any of the top female artists, and everybody
says the same thing about him. From Marefa to Patty
to Shaka, to Beyonce to Mariah to Whitney, all the
same thing. Yeah, name one of them. Didn't They didn't
call that when you them, when you them guys, Okay,
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so be it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Okay they them guys, they know it.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, they know it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You a problem with it? Hey, all I want you
to do, Hey, just go out there and is go touchdown,
get the yards, all that other stuff. Hey, I'm gonna
let y'all work that out with your quarterback. Yeah, y'all
worked out with a quarterback. But like what you're saying,
if that guy gotta throw me the ball, he the
last guy I'm gonna piss off. I piss off the
offensive coordinator before I piss off him, because even if
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the coordinator calls something that's not coming to me, I'm
not primary that quarterback. Like me enough, I'm gonna be
prime Maary whether he called.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It or or not exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So I'm staying on his good side.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
What the A Because at the end of the day,
it's like, well what you hey, John said, Hey, we
call this, I want you to run this, got it?
That's not That's not what we call. That's what he called.
I don't give them what y'all call. That's what he called.
You ain't got no ball in your head. You got
a clipboard. You got to set right. I want the football.
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He got it and he told me to run this,
So I assume he's gonna throw me the ball, So
take it, apack. I don't even Hey, Ojo, I don't
start to carry on. I said, hey, he called it.
Take up with him. I'm going to the bench and
keep it moving. But look, it ain't going away because
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we've seen because what has happened, O yoe is that
I think a lot of people thought after they won
the Super Bowl, you know what AJ said? You know what?
But AJ wants to win, and he wants to He
wants the offense to be productive. He knows there's a
level that this offense can get to that is not
getting to. And he's tired of he's tired of like, oh,
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you know, skating by and relying on the defense and
you know, fifteen completed you know, fifteen passes when this
offense can be so much more. Yes, And he's like,
I'm just tired of it. And so if going to
the Pro Bowl last year, winning the Super Bowl. Wasn't
gonna suppress that. You think, getting him for targets a
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game and he gonna be cool with that after he
came up a Pro Bowl and a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Oh Joe, Joe, it's crazy, crazy, It.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Ain't gonna happen. It's just not. And I don't know.
I don't know what they can do short of him
being like Jackson Smith and Jigbu or being Cooper or
being a pook in the court where you're getting ten
level targets a game. I don't even I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I don't know a joke that offense. Obviously, when you
think about JSN and what he's doing in Seattle, when
you look at pooking the court, and obviously with the rams,
the creativity, the schemes, the multiple formations that they put
those individuals in to be successful and get those kind
of volume targets and catches and yards. That's not the
Eagles offense. Man, But that's not the way they run
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the offense. Nor do they have the type of quarterback.
Is he capable of doing that or throwing high volume
like that? Maybe, but that's not what they do in Philly.
It's just not so. When the targets that you do get.
It's gonna be a few of them, so you better
maximize them. You better maximize them. You got to maximize
them every time, every chance you get.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
I mean the way Matthew Stafford throwing anything around the
field is night and day from when you know Jaalen
Hurst is back there. That's I mean, they just two
totally different quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Joe Joe. Matthew Stafford is the gun slinger Joe.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I'm watching the mojo Joe.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
He's a gunslinger, Joe. I'm not. I'm not calling them
Brett Father, I'm not calling Aaron Rodgers. But he ain't
too far off when it comes to throwing that goddamn ball.
Oh he can throw it different, boy.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
And the thing and the thing is is that now
you get a better appreciation for him because he's winning.
He ain't doing nothing different than what he did in Detroit.
He would throw it no look past this. In Detroit.
He threw for five thousand yards in Detroit. He had
a five hundred yard game in Detroit. He's just winning.
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Now you see the difference between winning and losing. We
look at Matthew Stafford, totally different now than when we
looked at him in Detroit, and he's the exact same player.
He's just winning.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
He got a ring now too, So see what you say,
oh Joe, You see how ring change the perception of him,
how we think, but a ring does that.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
The ring will chat change the perspective of how we
look at women, how we look at winging. They're more stable,
they're settled down structure, They're more structured. This is the
level headed. They're more apt to act accordingly. Yeah, I've
just talked about yeah, yeah, you see how we we
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look at things totally different with that ring with male female.
Let me let me let me where it be male
or woman, because I don't want them talking about oh fee,
you see how you see how the side he called
what women women? I apologize anybody that was offended that
I've used the term female, I apologize. I meant women,
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eighties women.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And I'm glad you went there too with that unk.
I know we were talking football, but you gave a
nice little life, a nice little life. Lesson on on
on how we're viewed on the outside looking in, for sure,
especially for those who can who can see us and
want to partner with it. And have a better understan animal. Well, hell,
these individuals, these young these young black men, older black
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men as well. You know, they got a little discipline now.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
They was, Yeah, I gotta do it, Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
We might go back to he Hey.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Hey, look look look I like I like how Jordan's
and As done the little the wood thing right before.
Uh uh, you know, right before we came home, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Hold on, though, why I gotta be the drunk getting
mad with no sense?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
So that's all I'm saying. Why I gotta be that guy?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Y'all couldn't figure out nobody else for me to be?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I gotta be t I hed losing my mind going crazy?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Hey, hey, Joe, who was that? Who was that in
that movie? Which one was that?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
On on the on the I don't know, man, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I was the one out there drunk, dissing, busted and disgusting.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
Come on now, what damn? So let me get it right.
You wanted to me to be that guy, Joe, I
should have been. I don't even drink drink, so it
came be me. They don't know that though, Okay, right, hey,
but hold on, hold on, let me get back to
my point.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Now, let me get back. I'm saying that we talk
about rings and how rings.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You know, we're viewed different perception of how people view you.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yet people viewers. So I think Joe, Joe, you're not married,
but you got your woman. Huh yeah, Hey, one thing
about it. Hey, listen, we say we were jumping the
broom next year, Yeah, we can make it a triple
deck of wedding.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
We're gonna probably we probably get a great price. Will
have been you?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, Joe, what you want to do?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Joe, we got to sit down and talk about this.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Joe, boy, you got cold feet, Nigga, don't do that.
He got cold feet and you asked that too fast.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I'm just saying we got, we got, we got.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah. I mean, oh, Joe, I mean damn. I mean
you know you've been with your people for a little
minute now, laid I mean me and Joe. I mean
I might need a man like I said it might
be twenty seven? Can I do no?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
No, no, no, no no no no no. Now you promise,
you promised.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You said.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Promise, you know O Joe say promise like podcrost sting
and easily broken. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
A marriage of the commitment, hey, and listen, and marriage
is a commitment also. And with that marriage, how do
they view you? Again?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
They they view you as structured in stable and and
and and that's somebody I want to. I want to.
That's why you see, That's why you said, Hey, think
about it. Patrick Mahomes, what did he do? Josh Allen?
What did Josh Allen do this off season? Married? Kobe Bryant, Lebrion,
James Jordan, what did they do? Stephen Turry?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
What did they do?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Show? Hey, Otane, Aaron Judge. The only guy that was
really like the baseball guy was Jeter. He'd have waited
till after he get married. But if you go back
and look at the other guys, Barry Bond, all those guys,
So what the tiger would do? Get married? Yeah? Bill
Mikison was married, Jack Arnold, all those guys were married.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So what is that telling you? So you you you
saying that you run it all the way down and
you still and you still not understanding.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I understand that. Joe Oo.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Okay, okay, So twenty twenty six, we jump in the room.
Whether you want to whether whether you want to or not.
I'm saying, I'm sure you got somebody in mind, and listen,
can get you can get you, you can get. Oh yeah,
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I am glad we're on the same page. Man, I'm
glad we're on the same page because we we can
be viewed differently. And once we're viewed differently, boom, we
talking about more blessings. You know, you know what, we
could work with them. They're a little different now and
then set they don't settled down. Yeah, the clouds, the
storm is going now. It ain't nothing but sunshine.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Joe. We can't we can't do that, or we can't
do that talking no more, o Joe, what kind of
talk the college teller that we used to do.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
That's okay, we can't we listen. We can't lose. We
can't listen. We can't lose our adds now, we can't
do that. We can't lose our ass Now.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I thought Uncle, I thought Uncle coming back into in
the city.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
We supposed to you know, Yeah, hey Joe, you know
I'm still I'm still got. You know, I got I
got twelve I got twelve month probation. So they say,
you know, you know, probably like may like after a
little bit after April may You don't.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
April may Man. Hell no, When that ball drop, hey.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
What joe Hey, you know hey, oh Joey, you know
what I'm saying. It's two two forty five. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Hey, when that ball drop, it's a rap, it's a
new it's a new year ball. Oh, y'all back when
the ball probation officer he be watching and fuck the
p O. You a good a good time. Serve you
know they let you off early.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yes, oh Joey, before we move on, nightcap staff want
you all got you guys to react to Carissa Shields
teaching me how to box. Let's take a look at this.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Let me see that where you.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Are almost so we're gonna be your legs. Put some
of the weight on your back back, because what you're
gonna do when you push off, you want to make
sure that you that your waisted in the middle of here.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
So when you push off, you're going forward, but you
still just take.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
A little step. That's the good jab. So you pusheel.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I'm just waiting back.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
One of the one third like that's like a flicker.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
You push off your back legs the way that you
really want to push off and really get it. That
is gonna it's gonna stick on. You know what I'm saying, like,
make them say what's up?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
So when you got this here, get that hand up,
so you're gonna pull this.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
Show back, switch positions and put that shoulder in front
that power come poo almost again.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Go that was more stronger that you are.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You stipping it ginger, you're jab.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
A little sawt o. That's remembering that jab.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
So now we got that jab, We got that right,
they're gonna get our hooks.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
We're gonna put this shoulder back now and make a
L with this game. The L upper case a sweats.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I need to wrap.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You sweating already, not ready. The last score is we're
gonna have that jazz step with it.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
We have that two.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
We're gonna put that three on and the upper cut
down everything three with the uppercut.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
You're making a U here, So it's coming from here here.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
If you want to go to somebody being your legs,
you wanna go to the head, you.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
Bring your right one, two, three, come here let me
go perfect.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Hey, that's Stephen. They spied uppercut.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
They really not ready for ready, Hey, can't get you're
gonna call me? I'm coming hey.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Hey wait man, hey, hey Joe, Hey, you gotta come
work with you. Boy. Man, We're gonna come with you.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'm gonna show you how that thing is supposed to
look a a a ass a show show on show,
Uncle Joe, that clip man a chat. Let me show
you how you're supposed to look. Hey, look at this,
Look at this, unc look at this. It's how it's
supposed to look. And look out. Look how smooth Joe,
I don't play Joe nice and tight everything hand he
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handle handle up top? Uh, just real sharp, hey.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Man, listen, Oh Joe, that's all I got. I got
so much admiration for boxes, bro. Yeah, not only just
the shape that they be in, but that's like a rhythm,
rhythm and time and sports. That ain't nothing you could
just pick up and go and look like Muhammad I
a lei and that you got to be putting in
some work.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Everything is tied together, yeah, man, where they tied together? Hey,
the feet them hands tied to the feet.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Hey hey hey, the funny thing about it is the
whole body got to be working in unison it does.
Every everything has to be working in unison, and obviously
that there's a certain coordination that you have in football
to be able to transition into boxing. It's very difficult.
It is very, very very difficult. But you know, boxing,
that's my thing. And and and and you know when
I when I fight Devo, he hey, Joe, when I
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fight Devo, when I fight Debo, and that y'all just
saw a nice little clip and that that's from three
years ago, so you gotta unders And I've been training
for for the last one, two, three, the last five
years now since I fought, and obviously you know it's
my first time in there, so I'm not gonna look
nothing like.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
That I thought, don't I thought, y'all fighting the oct gun.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Oh oh, Joe, I'm gonna keep him at a distance, Joe,
I'm gonna keep out, yeah, Joe, Joe. You just saw
that clip, right, Yeah, Joe, I'm gonna keep I'm gon
keep him at distance. I'm gona hitt him boy ten times,
and he'll never be able to touch me, never be
able to grab me. Joe. Hey, I'm getting round everything too.
Oh yeah, Joe, Hey, Joe, I'm not running either, I'm
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not running.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I'm you staying there.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You right there, you Yo, I'm telling you what I'm
a due. I'm gonna keep my arm out from a range,
and I'm i'm gonna stay' gonna stay at me and
range the whole time. Like, hey, hey, like both of
y'all got your feet in that time. You you right down, you, Hey, Joe,
I'm coming through him. I'm parrying everything, whatever it may be. Joe,
I'm doing whatever it takes. Joe, I'm getting in there.
You're gonna get that work on.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
You said your training, tell you somethingbody stay on the
phone or.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Hey, YOA I'm on the phone every time, and that's
how I got knocked down in my first fight.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
You wasn't on that phone.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I wasn't on that phone.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Jall was time.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I couldn't Joe couldn't. God, it was funny. Everybody be
making jokes. Oh you got knocked down. Whatever you got there,
But you haven't been in the box of ring.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Then three minutes long, a long ass time, long time.
Your arm gets so heavy you can't even lift them up. Joe,
I was in We was in the fourth round.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Joe, Oh my my my, swell god, Joe, I was
in hell of shape. We got to the fourth round
that last minute, Joe, I couldn't even put my hand
up here if I wanted to, I couldn't. I couldn't.
I couldn't put it up. I couldn't. I did everything
I could.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I'm on trained. That's why they helped. They have their
hands up, That's why they trained like that. You get
used to helding your hands up when you tired. You don't,
it's gonna be night and the thing and the thing else.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Anytime you throw a punch, you leave yourself open because
if I shoot the jab out here, yeah, I'm protecting this,
but he come over the top with some power. And
if you go back and look at how Bud Crawford
called Canelo Road the jam Budd Rock butters okay, and
Bud failed him out. They got to them later round.
He shoot the jam Budd on the top.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Out right away. And then you know, you got to
be so confident, Joe. You gotta be willing to exchange.
You gotta take one to give one. You got to
be willing to exchange. But I'm excited. I'm excited. Hey,
Hey Debo, Hey, James Harrison I hope you see this.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I got this. I got too much, muscle, Joe. I
need to lose. I gotta lose by fifteen twenty pounds
to be able to get that. Get them shoulders right, Yeah, man,
I lift too much. Yeah? What you looking at? Joe?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Oh, Joe, I was looking at I was looking at
the chat. I was hoping Devo was in the chat.
I just know I'm gonna beat his ass. I'm a
rearranger's face. I'm a real ranger's furniture. He thinks, all, hey,
all that muscle Joe, I'm gonna have I'm gonna have
me looking so silly out there. Joe with the footwork, man,
i'ma give me. I'm gonna give m a three piece
of the biscuit.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Move around.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
They move around, Joe, not run away, Joe around.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I get you, I got you, Joe. This is your subject.
The NBA at largest haven't seemingly been hit with an
injury at a disastrous rate the start of twenty twenty five.
We're not in him. A month into the season. Joannis Wenby,
Anthony Edwards, Anthony Davids, Kawhi, Leonards, Paulo Ban Carol all
sitting out and have already with meaningful lower bodies either
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calves growing or key leads. The league average pace of
play by team is one hundred point five, which would
be the fastest since the late eighties. Joe, have you
ever seen this many stars miss this kind of time
this early in an NBA season?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Now, I haven't, Uncle Ocho.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I hated for the game, But man, listen, you know,
back when I first came in, man, guys is working. Man,
we were playing guys playing hard. You practice hard. You
wasn't just rivving it up for the game. And I
feel like now in this in today's game, you know,
guys are really just saving their legs for the game.
And it's like you revving it up so high during
the game, and then you're taking two three days off
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and then you're reving it back up. I mean, you're
bound to get some of these soft tissue injuries to
grow in the hamstrings.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
The cams some bound to give, man, at some point.
I mean basketball is strictly running sprints, sprints, quick sprints
up and down the floor. So I don't know, Man,
I hate it for the game, but yeah, I think
I'm not sure if guys work as hard as they
as guys used to. I'm just be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
No, it's a different game. I mean, oh you or not,
we know it. In our sport. They don't practice like
they once did. Training camp, they don't practice like they
once did. There are really no two of days where
guys are out there piled on each other twice. Practices
mainly walk through now. I think they can only have
what thirteen practices, oh Joe, and during the season. It's
just a different time now, and yeah it is. I
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just think the thing is is that you got to
put your body through what you wanted to go through
the rigors of an NFL season. Is that you in practice.
I mean I ain't saying you gotta take the guy
to the ground on Joe, but you gotta let them
feel it. You gotta thud up. Yeah, get your body
used to that. You can't ask a car, I mean
to ask a car just get out there on the
track and say, you know what, we're just gonna be chilling,
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just taking out the garage and say, okay, not go
five hundred miles.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
No.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Now, if you're only doing that on every Sunday, then
something you're gonna you're gonna throw a ride and exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
But I'm the pace of play. I mean, I saw
the Lakers. Let the Lakers got one forty.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I saw a team the other night in regulation got
one fifty seven. These teams again, I mean, that's what
it used to be. In That's what it used to be.
You saw, you saw easy a one sixty to one fifty,
a one to fifty five ball game, one seventy one.
Eighties teams just go one hundred and eighty points on, Joe.
I mean, I think that was the Pistons beat the
Nuggets one eighty three, one eighty one, one eighty one,
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eighty three, one eighty one, something like that. But team
would routinely get into one forties, one thirties forties, and
then in the nineties they shut it down and then
all of a sudden it was nine. It was seventy
three to sixty eight, and you're like, man, don't nobody
want to see that bull drive? Now you got guys
scoring what the tired team scored in the ball game.
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You got guys going that by themselves, Joe, can you
see guys getting seventy points? You see guys getting sixty
something points in a.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Game a one guy.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Within the nineties, there are guys. There were teams scoring
sixty something points. Man, listen, every every guy on the
floor now is a threat. It is a game for
sure to score, to shoot the ball. You can't be
out there if you're a liability. Nowadays, nope.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
You know these teams putting up, they they they gonna
give you them them appetizing shots because they want to tempo,
they want to pace. So you're gonna play against you know,
some of these teams who get up and down and
you get your a couple of good free looks. But man, listen,
the game is played at a much much faster pace
now days because you don't have guys. I don't see
they put three four guys and then yeah, who post up? Man, Yeah,
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for sure, it ain't but three four guys. I mean
then you you look at some of the top guards
like Lucas Shade uh Brun. I'm talking about guys who
on the perimeter and they post up and they can
play out the post.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
But it ain't.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
It ain't but a few guys who post up. In
this league now it's pick and roll league, catch and shoot,
catching go yep.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, the guys that. But the guy that can post
up can all shoot the three. You look, that's crazy,
damn had I think Jokis had another triple double at
it in the three quarters. You look at you. He
can post up, but he can shoot the three. Jannis
is not the most proficient. He can post up. Now, guys,
it used to be every guy on the court. If
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you mess around it and have a not andy'll pay
him attention. He can go get thirty forty points on you.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, why you playing it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
It used to be only your top two guys. Maybe
you had one two guys on the team. Now Grayson
Allen dropped forty two points.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, Now, I'm telling you you don't pay attention to
these guys. You're like, oh, man, oh, he don't worry
about it. He with us that Joe will go he'll
go eight for fourteen from the three. Yeah. And you
even man that Yo got forty on us.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Yeah, you're talking about you think that Hartenstein can't play.
You look up, he got thirty points and rebound. Yes, yeah, yeah,
you're right, You're absolutely right. Get a guy at a
different time. Now, these guys, these guys are rich. See
and I think The thing is, Look, I'm not saying
the guy.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I'm not saying I look at it like this, Joe.
I think the guys are more skilled and they softer league.
So the numbers are gonna get out of hand because
back then, the physicality they not letting you come. You
might come down the lane one time. I bet you
wanna bring your ass back down there again. I'm telling you,
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I bet you wouldn't. I'm telling you right. And there
weren't no play I mean, there wasn't no flagrant file
that that's play on. Now. If you know you go
to blocking shot and the guy come down on your foot,
that's a flag. They gonna get the shot, they're gonna
get three points, and they're gonna get the ball. It's
just a different game. So these guys are so skilled now.
It's just like the quarterbacks, O Yoe. You know the
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quarterbacks Now they got throwing coaches. Hell, they're in junior high, yeah, receiver,
they're going to these seven on seven camps and they
working with guys. So when they come in the league,
that's so skilled. Now I'm skilled in a league where
we can't punish the quarterback, we can't touch the receivers.
We can't punish the receivers.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So we got a guy.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
We got guys that are more skilled and are not
not as physical as a league. You see what you're
gonna get, Yes, the same thing in the NBA. You
get guys that are more skilled. That's not I that's
in a softer league. And now, yeah, numbers astronomical.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I agree because the talent in the in the NBA
now is it's it's so much different from what we've
ever seen. I ain't never seen this many seven footlers,
who can play the point guard, who can shoot the three,
who can post up, who can play may It's man
wife Singoon played the other night the center for he Yes,
listen o jo that man seven foot they inbounded the
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ball in him. He walking it up like he Magic Johnson.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I'm like, yeah, I saw him geting dunked on the
night too, did he Yeah? But it was it was
it was a foul on what's the one with afro?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Oh yeah, he pushed off Jared Allen.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, Jared Allen. He mushed him, but he dunked on
you body mushed him in the face.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Man.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
These dudes a back even back when I came into
the NBA in two thousand and one, guys one playing
like that, you had two traditional bigs, you know you
said none of them shot three, you know what I mean.
So the floor was a lot more clogged up. Now
it's so much space out there right that you even
if you if you're a great one on one guy,
you can get by your man. Man, you're gonna always
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later opportunities. Yeah, yeah, and that's why. So that's why
the score is up there.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I mean, look how many thirty points scores we got, man,
Look at look at Aster Reeves, Oster Reeves averaging like
twenty eight points a game.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
The Lakers look good.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, you see Braun coming to take that.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Listening quick look look look, look look Lebron. Tell you man,
I ain't just no score. I ain't got to score twenty.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Five to night. I'm gonna set up for the little
level twelve.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Yeah, I'm gonna feel my way in. I'm gonna get
to where y'all want me to get to. But right now,
I ain't no need to me interrupting with Luca and
aar got going on the board out of control over.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, it's so funny as great as Lebron is. He
has an understanding and a self awareness to understand. Listen,
when I come in to night, I'm gonna facilitate.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I think Lebron is probably the best overall overall in
every aspect of the game. He brings everything to the table.
You know, he coming in. You know what, Oh, I
need the ball in my hands. I need to dominate.
I need to be able to shoot. He has a
he has a feel. He has such a feel for
the game to be able to come in and do
what he did yesterday with all the time he's had
off because of him and having a cicada and that
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that's crazy. He looked real good.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I mean, look, and Luca, how you stopping because you
can't speed him up. He's bigger than you think, he's
stronger than you think, and there's a there's not a
shot that he can't make. I mean, you saw the
guy make three half court shots in a row. Where
they do that at I mean, we've seen guys make
half court shots. Okay, fine, he made three in a
row from half court. Yeah, I mean he came to
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step back and just where you think, hey, he'll half
fake you up and then woo woop, he'll hey, get
you up in the air, jumping to you and one
Yeah he had thirty they had thirty something to night
and you look up, you're like I thought. I knew
he was special when I saw him do what the
Clippers and they had this great defensive team. They had Kawhi,
that had PG, that have Pat Bell, they had all
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these defenders and he cooked every last one of them
in the But he cooked every last one of them.
I say, well, with that defensive team, if they can't
stop him, what happens if he goes against a team
that don't have defensive guys like that, you're not stopping that.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I agree. I agree.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Man, he cold, he cold, Yes, he ain't like I said,
he ain't. He he ain't moving fast out there, but
he understands angles. He can flip his hips real quick
to where you know he can cut you off and
get to his spot. And once he raised up, you
so nervous that you don't want to get a found
that you're a late contest.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
He probably gonna make that nine times out of ten.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, but look at the guys, look at bird. Wasn't
the fastest he get the where he wanted to go
how he wanted to get there. Same thing with Jokic.
You look at a guy Jokis ain't gonna jump over
a credit card, but he gonna bust your ass for
a thirty point triple double knight in the basis. Look
at Luca. He ain't gonna jump over a poster stamp,
but he gonna give you thirty five, ten and eight
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on a nightly basis.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, yeah, boy got game.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Man. He good.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yes, I think I think And for me, I think
brun is in a perfect situation.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
He ain't gonna they don't have to count on him
the score no night, No, he can center for twenty two.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Twelve boys Tennessee is something like that. Like you know,
he he's gonna be able to kind of coast his
way into this. Hey, yeah, it's gonna be like I said.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I mean the guys. Look, I'm old enough to remember.
I remember those guys in the eighties. But I just
think it's called evolution. They no more. They got better training,
they got better supplementation, they got better nutrition. So obviously
things evolved, you know. And if I evolved something, oh Joe,
and then you make it easier for me to do it.
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These guys look superhuman.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, I mean I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
At Luca and and and some in Shane, and I'm
looking at these guys. They don't even look think about it.
Do you understand that the averaging thirty points was reserved
for some of the best. Yeah, he's getting thirty points
like it ain't nothing, rolling out of bed. Yes, I mean,
I mean, I think Shae has one game this year
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in which he hasn't scored thirty.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I mean, I mean, I'm just looking at him.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I'm looking at these guys. I'm like, well, damn, pretty soon,
i mean, thirty is the new twenty is basically the
new twenty five, and pretty soon, Joe, I'm gonna be honest,
I'm not gonna be surprised if somebody average forty points
a game. Forty forty Luca average. Think about it, Luca
averaging thirty five.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Now, well, listen, who whatever player come come along. You know, obviously,
right now, the European players are the best players in
the NBA. Whoever comes along averaging forty forty a game.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Somebodys gonna be the high thirty forties.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Watch he's gonna be hey, hey, he gonna be in
shape like Jiannis, but he's gonna have a jumper like
kd Oh.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah. You gotta say if you if you're gonna average forty,
you're gonna have to be in some shape.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, look at it. Think about Luca, Luca walking the
ball up. Luke, ain't pushing, ain't pushing on pay Luca
walking the ball up. He gonna get to this spot. Yeah, boy,
if Luke, and let me tell you how if Lucas
shot forty, Because Lucas gonna shoot a lower percentage because
he shoot so many step back threes, so he gonna
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shoot a low percentage. But if you let if if
he see a couple of things going early, you might
well forget it. It's like, hey, he gonna get He
gonna get forty fifty on us tonight, and just like, hey,
we just gonna try to contain everybody else, if you
Tyler said, Tyler said, our job was to let Yoki score,
but don't let anybody else do anything. Okay, fifty five,
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twelve and six later, Well, I ain't know who's gonna
score like that. Yeah, yeah, they got that kindability. A
big guy that can shoot, he can post.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Hey, and he done figured it out your defense.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Okay, cool, they ain't bring the double team tonight.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
So he's gonna cook. He's gonna cook the Joo box
me and Big Zou Box. I'm finna gave a little
dream shake down.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
You ain't Joe. He gonna pump and up under you. Yeah,
ain't you can do. He's gotta hope he missed. And
now Aaron Gordon who got injured. Aaron Gordon was knocking
down three. So if you bring if you bring the
guy off Aaron Gordon, boom, he kicking Aaron Gordon. He
make that. That's that hammer passed cross court boom, knocked
down three. Okay you break. Jamal Murray can knock it down.
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It's just these guys now man, they're just going crazy
with It's just like damn yeah. I think with Jokis,
while I love him so much, because he just kind
of takes what you give him. If you want him
to be a score, he'll score. If you want him
to be a pastor, he don't have no problem getting
seventeen or six. If you need to rebound, he can
get twenty.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Boys. He ain't tripping, you know what.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
He's gonna have the triple double again. He just he
got a triple double again tonight.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Man, this is crazy boy, nice boy.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I mean I would not be surprised when it's all
saying done. This joker don't have two hundred and fifty
maybe three hundred triple doubles. Joe and no Jo. Yeah,
he gonna break Russ record. I mean he probably he
done pass bron So he probably by Russ, Oscar, maybe Magic.
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I mean he as looking see where YO get chills?
He probably number four already a triple doubles. It was
a second round pick. The man got drafted in the
Taco bell commercial. He three behind Magic. How many does
he have? Okay, he's gonna friends from the How many
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is YO have? One fifty? He got one seventy two
Already Oscar had the record. I think with one eighty one.
Russ probably has like two two o eight, two nine,
maybe two ten. He might pass Russ this year. Say
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that sleek in with four whip because he doesn't have
wear and tear on his body. O Joe, Joe, because
he's not a he's not a race car right now,
he's a station wagon. All you want to pick it up?
Drop the kids off the school like low steady, that's it.
And with he on the road, he ain't go He
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ain't go. Hey, whatever the speed limit is, that's what
he goes. Yeah, hearing the school's on there, say fifteen twenty,
that's what he's going. It's say thirty five forty, that's
where he going. He ain't going above sixty. So y'all
might a he gonna be in the right lane. He
ain't gonna be in that fast ass lag. He ain't
gonna be the center lane. But man, these guys I'm
watching this Joe. They going crazy. Hey, look the the
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the m v P. It's gonna come down. I mean,
I know it's kind of like a two man race
right now with him in shade. But yo, kids, you
gotta be Dancic's gonna be in Luca's gonna be in that.
The Laker's gonna win enough games this year. Luca's gonna
be in there. Y'all is always gonna be in it.
Yokild just had his tenth triple double in fourteen games. Yeah,
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m hmm, Joe. People don't want to give It's hard
for people to give up those old guys. But when
it's saying done. It's gonna be hard if he gets
another championship or two, Joe, it's gonna be hard to
not have him in the top ten.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean he just he got
He covers every facet of the game. And he's such
a great passer, a willing passer. And it's like, but
don't get it twisted now because I dropped fit there
on you. Now you you ill asleep over that now
I drop.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
He's seven butt tall? Oh, Joe, you laughing? He's seven
put tall?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Who's seven feet tall? Why he looks so small on
the court. Not no, he don't look small, but it
don't look like, you know, look like KT. KT looked
tall as hell.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
KT a slim, He a slim tall like Yoki Jane,
Like you know what I mean, man got a little
weight on him.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
How I mean, there's a great chance. I mean, for me,
it's hard to say. He's not a top two player already, damn.
But when he's done, Joe, another championship, let mean think
about it. He's finished. He's finished second in the MVP
to Shay and and uh Joel Embiid. But he has
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three already. He gonna be for the next five years,
he's gonna be one, two or three in.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
The m v P.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
And if he can get Jamal married to continue to
play at that all star level, they'll have a chance.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah, they have a chance.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
He needs somebody to come along with him, though he
ain't gonna be doing it by himself.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
No, because think about it, Gordon got hurt last year.
What would it have been in a game seven if
Gordon nothing hurt that hamstring?
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah, because he goes, hey, your two bigs, they got
no chance against him because he go whoever your big is,
just say son, we love you and and and it
ain't no shame and getting a triple double, a thirty
two point thirty five points drople double average on you
ain't no shame of that. He does that to everybody.
He cooking you big, ain't nothing.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
You can do what you can.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
I thought, I actually thought though the thunder Hardenstein and
big boy, uh what's the other one name the big
tom oh chet Holmbren. I thought they played him pretty well.
I know he still got kind of got his numbers,
but they long athletic active. You know, you would think
that they would probably give him a little problem because
they can kind of mix up coverages with him, you
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know what I mean, But I get it. I know
he's gonna get his numbers, but I just think, okay,
so he gonna be two.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
They you know what happened though, they played the best
when they went that box in one on him. They
put they put Caruso in back of it and let
him fight it, and they're like, hey, and then everybody,
we're gonna swarm because now you don't have Aaron Gordon.
We don't have Aaron Gordon out there, so we're not
really worried about his replacement, right, But if they got
Gordon and they're clicking, it's gonna be tough because you
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already know you already conceding ten at bare minimum. Hey,
you already basically you already conceived the triple double to him.
Now if Murray go crazy, like we know he can, oh,
you got your hands full. Yeah, and now Gordon is
giving you twenty a night.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
Hey, Hey, but I don't know if y'all been looking
over here in the Eastern Conference, you know, the Hawks
been playing well, the.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
P and the Hawk playing unbelievable with our trade.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
I know, man, they got them. They got a lot
of light sized guys out there.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Like, yeah, they got a lot of six six nine, sixteen,
sixth elevel guys, Joe.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
And they all defensive minding, you know what I mean. Yeah,
they all defensive minded, Ojoe. And they've been you know,
they've been having long rule.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
And they got Jalen Johnson and they.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
Got them boy he them boy been bothering their half,
their half.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
I watched it.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
They lost to Detroit yesterday, but Detroit. I got Detroit good.
They they heling the east over here.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Now I'm worriedy sun goon shingoon.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yeah, the Rockets. The Rockets ain't loft for one game, Joe,
Hey tell me about since they kicked off. You know,
they went oh and three. They they didn't they didne
got hot. They they they they won, they want they
want they were they Yeah, they lost their first and
then they went one and two. They two and two,
three and two, four and two, five and two, five
and three, sixty three, seventy three, eight and three, nine
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and three.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Now they ten and three. They just beat Cleveland. They
beat Orlando in overtime. Kd uh hit a big bucket. Uh.
And then they beat what you call him, the night.
By ten they're ten and three.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
Man, it's gonna I'm telling you. When I watched the
Rockets play, I'm looking at sing Gooon out there running
the point. Wow, Reed Shephard, come sett him a pick,
Reed Sheppard, the little shooter, he'll.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Come set a pick for sing Goon.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
Man, I don't know how you gonna stop that because
you can't help off KD obviously, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
You gotta try to make these other guys make plays.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
But man, they got guys stepping up playing big oh joy,
they find a little fine tune rhythm and timing. You know,
they getting their chemistry and continuity together over there at
ten and three. It's probably got them what number two,
number two in the West right now?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Maybe now the Nuggets eleven and three? Yeah, okay, see okay,
see they lost but one. Yeah they they fifteen, They
fifteen and one.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
They might be better. They might be better than what
they were last year. They finished trying to beat the Sephany.
What was that the Warriors had seventy. You don't think
they're gonna try to get that. Oh, they're gonna try it,
But man, you the heart of yours, I mean you
lost nine games in an NBA season.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
That's crazy, man.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
They got dudes coming in the game putting up a dub.
I ain't even never heard of these dudes coming out.
They got that, man, they got dudes. Ohho, they got
dudes coming in the game. Who will dropped twenty on you?
You like, hold where a dude come from?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, and all and all of it. They're never gonna
be on the court without at least three three wing defenders.
And j Doub ain't played yet.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
And then every time you look up, shake got thirty three.
Check homere I told you.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
Now look, I told y'all doing the finals, I said
that the biggest thing for OKC, for them to be
a dynasty is if check Honry can continue to improve
and and and and take his game to new new heights,
you know what I mean, be efficient and be their
rent protector that Swiss army knife that it's hard to guard.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
And man, he been bought. He'll probably be not probably
he'll be All Star this shit too.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
So okay, you know this year, Joe, they don't take positions,
They just take the top vote getters.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Hey, so basic.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Normally you get the two back court into three bigs
ain't none of that joke. You might have all. I mean,
obviously I think Shae, Luca, Steph, but you might have
k D and Shingoon. I mean theoretically, I think Bron's
gonna all. Bron is gonna be there with the votes
because the fans. I'm saying, if by time a star
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breaking here and let's say they they they don't. They
lost three games, they thirty eight, and man, they gonna
have to give at least two.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Guys, and for sure because then j didn't Jadug go
last year?
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yeah he did go last year. He hadn't even played
a game.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yet, Nope, j J does nice bright.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Yeah, yeah he got some games. But the Rockets is
gonna be tough because they got a guy that can
go one on one. I mean, Shin Goon can post.
KD obviously can post. But they got a ball, a
guy that can put the ball in his hand late
and he can make it, make it happen. And that's
KD and shn't Goon said, I don't have I don't
have a problem giving up giving the ball up to
a guy that I know they can make that shot.
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So they're gonna be tough. They got Amin Thompson. Uh,
that can defend and can score. You got Big Adams,
Big Steven Adams. Hey, he might not give you but
four or five points a night, but he's gonna give
you double figure rebounds. He's gonna see a great screens.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
Yeah, hey, hey, you know what, I think that's so underrated,
especially in basketball, Like you get you a guy who
can really say good screens, N get guys open.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I want him.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
I want him on my team everything. I'm trying to
get this jump on. Oh you hear me?
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Speaker 3 (47:06):
Where they playing Where they're playing at?
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Where are they playing? Ash? I think the Clippers on
the roads in Orlando, in Orlando, Desmond Bang Clip Carroll's out.
So basically Wagner and and Bang's gonna be needing to
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leading the scores. Anthony Black been playing very well. Oh
Ben Carroll out?
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (47:40):
Yeah, I say Bank, I say Bang, he probably he'll
probably drop a dug. The Clipper's been struggling, man, they
struggling bad.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go more. James Harden more
than five and a half rebounds. Kay, yeah, all right,
we're going more? Why o, Joe? Josh Allen more than
two hundred and twenty five passing yards against that stout,
that stout Houston Texans defense in Houston.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Listen, as stout as they are, as good as those
two defensive ends are as great as Stingley is, he
gonna get to twenty five, he gonna get to twenty five. Yeah, absolutely, Listen.
Josh Allen is one you, Josh Allen is one you
can't stop. He's one you can't stop. And they're and
they're able to impose their will when it's time to
run the ball. They able to impose their will. So
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he gonna get them yard trust me.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
All right? O, yo, say trust him? So I'm trusted him.
More on Josh Allen two hundred and twenty four and
a half faster yards Dalton Schultz thirty eight and a
half receiving yards.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Hey, hey, that's that's your that's your area expertise.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, they hadn't been getting him a whole lot of
opportunities lately. I like Bishop, I'm gonna say less less
than thirty eight and a half receiving yards, twenty five
dollars to win one hundred and fifty dollars downloaded after
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day use coach Shannon to get fifty dollars off after
you play your first five dollars lineup prize picks. It's
good to be right, all right. Final segment of the
evening is time for Q and A. Pat Dubs said, Oh,
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Joe body qualified for the World Cup. How's the vibe
in Miami?
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Hey? Hey, you know what? The vibe is? Crazy?
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Right?
Speaker 2 (49:42):
I live all I love very far. I live very
far out west. But I'm sure if I was to go,
you know, near the city, you know where I grew
up at. But I know they're going crazy and little
Haiti right now, I know they're going crazy. Hey, you
know what that means. It's been fifty one years. It's
been fifty one years. If I'm not mistake, since Haiti
is qualified for the World Cup or maybe maybe any
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competition of this magnitude, if I'm not mistaken, But you know,
don't don't quote me, but god damn it, that's dope.
That's really dope.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Man.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
I'm excited for all my achan's stop.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
I say, Jason CJ zero nine to nine. Oh Joe,
you were always losing. Don't tell us you never celebrated.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Obviously, Obviously Jason wasn't listening very well. I specifically said,
if we weren't going into tire game or we weren't ahead,
I didn't celebrate if we were losing. Like listen, I
was very self conscious and self aware when I celebrated.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Christopher E. Evans Jr. Said, do you guys think the
Chiefs just might be burnt out because they played so
many regular seasons in postseason games.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
That's a good one. That's a great question. That's a
great question.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Think about they've scored at this point last year. This
last year they scored. They've scored more points, giving up
a few points. Patrick Mahomes has more passing yards. Last
year at this point in time, they was seven and three.
This year they're five and five, five and five.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
But you got to understand, right, each time they get
to the Super Bowl, things are gonna continue to get difficult.
You know, if they not gonna keep running through everybody
each year like they alway they like they've always done. So,
now you get to a point where you're gonna have
to have You're gonna have to have. You're gonna have adversity.
You're gonna have to You're gonna have to, you know,
get some hurdles. All those one score games you lost,
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you won last year. They lose those one score games,
You're losing them now. So I think anytime fifteen had
the chance to not only make it to the playoffs,
but when when the when the rubber meets the road,
Like you say, they're gonna win those games, win, it
matters most. I never I never count my homes out
regards to them being five five hundred or not.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
They need to get on the ball. They got some
very tough They got the Colts, and then on a
short week they got the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Oh that's gonna be nice.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
No, we're gonna take advantage of them.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Hey, hey, Joe, you feeling good about your cowboys? Huh?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Come on, come on, hey, I don't blame you.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
I don't blame you.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yeah, Henny A said Max Crosby is coming for him
talking about your door. Yeah, I just hope they keep
him out. Oh Joe, you finally fixed the camera. I'm
happy for you, but I'm upset it wasn't me who
did it. But congrats.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Oh oh yeah. Matter of fact, it wasn't even me.
She's watching right now. She's the reason for it. She
told me what to do. All my cable, all my
ad my cables. Yeah, I wasn't using Apple products. So
because I have because I'm using the Apple, the Apple,
the Apple camera. So I got all Apple stuff, you know,
to go into the so everything flows all that, Uh
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what out of market?
Speaker 1 (52:53):
How do you say it? After market?
Speaker 2 (52:54):
After market stuff is the reason why it kept cutting
off an hour into the show.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
Yeah you supposed I mean that's what you're supposed to.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Yeah m
hm right you laughing, Joe, Yeah, my baby, baby, I
know you're watching. Hey girl, all right, all right?
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Uh el pray, says Oh Joe. How was it playing
alongside Steve Smith and Demetrius Posy back in college?
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Oh man, rest, oh, rest in peace. Demetrius Posy, Demitri's
Posy was the better, better the three of us. Demitris
Young when we played in junior college. He was the
real deal. He was a real deal. He's similar to uh,
like Andre Johnson, you know kind of yeah, yeah, he's
like the same body style, very aggressive, play, good hands,
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nice route runner. That's that's who he was at the time.
Unfortunately he passed away from not mistaken. I think it
might have been a car accident. And it was me Me, Me,
Demitris Posy and Steve Smith and the Steve Smith, which
you see now what he saw in the league. He
was already like that in college. Little yeah, and he
(54:01):
was and he was always like that in college, mean
as hell, Yeah he was. He was always like that.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Bro. Yeah, I messed me. Uh his first year in
the league, he was a rookie. Yeah, and he made
it as a returner. If I'm not mistaken, I think
his daughter, I think he had a daughter at the time.
He had a he had a newborn. But I've always
liked he was always cool.
Speaker 4 (54:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
As a matter of fact, I voted for him for
Offensive Player of the Year. Uh that year he won
the Triple Crown. Oh yeah, yeah, dads reacts sys Man.
That's when you know you're locked in with her left
when you fall asleep on the phone that only happens
when you see a future. It's been a few times,
(54:48):
you know what I'm saying, been on the pall like
four five hours, Joe. You know what I'm saying. Back then,
you know, when I was coming up, Joe, you had
to keep putting that corner in the pay phone. You
have one minute left.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
And the funny thing about it, remember when we used
to have the house phones.
Speaker 1 (55:04):
Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
You know during the day, your Mama say, man, stay
up that phone in case anybody trying to call me.
Don't be so. Hey, hey, Joe, un you wait till
she fall asleep and you call your girl. And you know,
ain't nobody gonna be calling the house past a certain time.
Well you be? He you be? I laid up chilling,
fall asleep. He fall asleep with the phone. You pick
(55:25):
it up in the morning. Hello, Hello, you're still there? Yeah, yeah,
I'm here. Hey, some good days.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
You get the phone, Joe, Hey, you what you try
to talk of the phone? My grandma? Boy, get your
ass off the phone to take this treasure?
Speaker 2 (55:41):
Are you wait till I get on the phone to
say that.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
You could have?
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (55:45):
You couldn't just wait?
Speaker 5 (55:46):
Y'all got your phone and say that yeah, hey, and
I know y'all ain't no hell on this three way time.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Would Originally Joe would I. When we first got the phone,
there was one line, so your neighbors if you was
on the phone, your neighbors couldn't get on the phone,
but your neighbors could pick up and hear you talking.
So if you want to use the phone, you would
ask like, miss such and such, can you got the phone?
We need to make a call right quick? Okay you
you you Barney's boy grand boy? Yes, ma'am? Okay, okay,
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can you got the phone? In such and such a Papa?
Say you want to use the phone? All right, I'll
be off in a few minutes. Boys, Yeah, that's the
way it was. Hey, And don't mess around and think
you hung it up and the phone off the hook
because it's gonna ring busy, Ye what boy, you've been
trying to call you for the last fifteen minutes. Who
(56:44):
in the hell left that phone off the hook? It
wasn't actual, trust me, nobody wanted to hear your mouth.
If Shedor gets hot wins a few games, Big gonna
flex the Browns the Prime time in a meaningless game.
They care. They don't. They care about eyeballs.
Speaker 5 (57:02):
Who's gonna watch? Yep, that's what they care about us.
If people want to see that young man, they do.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Uh doctor Frank m Bellaman, Oh Joe, did you see
punching that bag on Club Sha shay? You might want
to pay up that sixty nine hundred just saying love y'all.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Nah, based on what I say, I'm I'm a renege
on paying that money.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
Man, See, I have to hit it with well, nobody
blows make it peel on hisself. Joe I was saying
the coldest, the coldest athlete quote y'all ever heard Georgia
packing up one suit for Game six and Phoenix because
he knew it was over.
Speaker 5 (57:41):
Oh nothing like that, bro, And yeah you've seen that
on lamps dance up. Yeah yeah, well that man say hey, hey,
I'm on take him one suit.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
Bill Parcells had that with the Giants because back then, uh,
you want when you won the championship game the next
the following week with the Super Bowl, it wasn't the
two weeks off like we got now, oh cho to
build up and sell it. Cork Parcell said, y'all packed
for two weeks y'all packed for next week. You're not
coming We're not coming back. Yeah. The pack beat the
(58:11):
San Francisco in San fran and flew down the Tampa.
That's when Whitney. That's when Whitney sung the national anthem
just was flying over and she had that track suit on.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
Hey. One of the ways, if not the greatest national
anthem ever sung for a sporting event. That is between
her and Marvin Gaye at the eighty four NBA All.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Star All Star Game. I think that was in Staples too.
Now it was in the form.
Speaker 2 (58:36):
It wasn't Staple the great farm, your great Western farm.
Oh he killed that?
Speaker 1 (58:44):
Or yo, hudlum kawhi Leonard ain't ish if we take
them rings away? You can't though, you can't.
Speaker 4 (58:51):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
He did that.
Speaker 1 (58:53):
I mean Toronto. Think about what Toronto being since he left.
Think about Toronto couldn't get over the hump. Not granted
Lebron had moved out West, but he got Toronto probably
looks like gonna be their own long championship.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
He did that. He won another championship with him. Duncan them.
He did that.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
He's a two time Defensive Player of the Year. He's
done that. No matter how you look at it, he's
a top seventy five player all time. And when he
suit up, you know what, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
for sure he gonna.
Speaker 3 (59:26):
Get He gonna give you what you want.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
Carlin Liberton shout out to Haitian soccer team for the
World Cup qualification. Yes, congratulations of Haiti. The great nation
of Haiti qualified for the World Cup. David Florence should
at l look to get your door high d on
his head, coach.
Speaker 8 (59:46):
Man.
Speaker 1 (59:47):
I'm afraid if Raheem don't turn this thing around, they
gonna they're gonna make a move man, because that's not
it's I mean, you paid one hundred plus million for cousins.
You take a quarterback with an injury history. Ain't no guarantee?
OO show that that that that Pennick Junior is gonna
be able to start the season.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it not.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
And he had a history. Yeah, you got an injury history.
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
You know that. You know that going into it. That's
why they have a scouting department. They have the people
that that you where you wear your pros and your cons.
And obviously there was nobody else available at that time
and when he was on the board. That's a chance
you can't pass up. We got to take a chance
on him, and that's what they did.
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Hey, uh, JJ said we need you to go back
to twenty twenty sixth on the dot. Not a second later.
Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
I told you. I told you that's a you got
to get the people what they need.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Uh yeah, we got something coming for y'all tomorrow. So
be able to look out. JJ car move like pop
tark Crust, just high security or a couple of Wayians.
I'm sure I already go places where they're gonna be
no proper. I'm going to a place. You know, we
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tried to have a good time. You know what I'm saying,
ain't bother nobody. Everybody just want to say, hey, how
you doing, man, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
I don't go to places where there's something they might
even I even think something might pop.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Off, I be there. Are you good?
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
I be there.
Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
If it does pop off, I be there. You know
I'm security.
Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Uh j R. Locke, How you mo folks get over
you think someone you think is cheating and you got
that gut feeling, Well, it all depend up. I'm assuming
we're talking about card games or shooting dice or something
like that, or Joe, I think that's what he's talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Need I need better context. I could tell you.
Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
I don't think you can think about a in a
maybe I guess a video game? I best. Can't you
cheating Madden or something like that, Call of Duty or
something like that. Can you cheat? O ship?
Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
You can? You can? You can malipiate the games.
Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Yes, But look, look if I think somebody cheating, I
just ain't gonna play with him no more. That's it.
That's that's the end of for me because I can't.
I can't because I know how I am. I don't
like losing anyway. And then you cheat me on top
of it, and a lot of times, you know, with
a joke of cheating. Joke, he talking trash, No he's cheating.
(01:02:24):
Hey no, no, Jay, just hey, just chalk it up
to the game and say, man, I'm up out of here. Man,
I ain't fooling with y'all no more. Five saying it's
my fiance's birthday on Friday? Can you wish you a
happy birthday? Her name is Charity. Charity, Happy Birthday. Your
fiance wanted to wish you a happy birthday? He wanted
(01:02:44):
to let you know also that you know what you completed.
The happiest day of his life is when he met you.
The second happiest day when you said it, yes, you
would marry him. The third happiest day when it actually happens.
So charity for you and your fiance many many years
of blissful marriage and happy early birthday. I got him
(01:03:08):
a score piold. Yeah, I guess I don't know about
no signs that just no care cancer and leo. Okay, yeah,
my brother. I think my brother April six, I think
he might be he might be a Reese or something
that's not about right April six, Yeah, yeah, okay, I
don't know about I don't know. You know, you know,
(01:03:29):
I'm just cancer, you know, soft, hard shell nice.
Speaker 6 (01:03:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
I'm just saying. You know what I'm saying. You know
what I'm saying. You know, it took a while to get,
you know, get through, but once you get through. Man,
this god, oh my gosh, he's really nice. He's a
great guy. Right, I'll about for him. You know what
I'm saying. He's a great guy.
Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Oh hell, And I love what you've done to the place.
Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Oh, yes, me and we're in the Hampton's, you know,
just a couple of bottles of wine, just some friends.
It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
You gotta see it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Sometimes you just come up to the place. Oh show,
just come up, you and your girl, come up to
the place. Joe, Hey, you have an open invitation. It's great.
All this time of year is magnificent. Now it's really
the spring, spring or summer. That's our summer home.
Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
We got a place in the Hamptons, the south of France.
Who got a flat in London? Is awesome, guys, it's awesome.
Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.
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