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May 14, 2025 46 mins

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Boston Celtics forward Jayson Tatum successfully going through surgery on his ruptured achilles, Trey Hendrickson is having contract issues with the Bengals & Travis Kielce has lost 25 pounds to get ready for the new season & much more!

01:47 - Tatum underwent successful surgery for repairing achilies
09:42 - Trey Hendrickson
16:17 - Week 1 scheduled leaked
20:00 - Aikman and Buck name superbowl picks
21:44 - Travis Kelce lost weight
24:00 - MLB commish ends lifetime ban for deceased players
27:48 - Greenbay guard Ryan falls short of 2 mil bonus
30:47 - Q & Ayyy

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
According to the Celtics, Jason Tatum underwent successful surgery to
a prayers or rupture the Chigley's tender. No timetable is
currently available for his return, but he is expected to
make a full recovery. So he's gonna probably be non
weight bearing for what two months, Probably have that little scooter.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, because the last thing you want to do, oh Joe,
is retear it.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
No no no no no no.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
But you don't want no pressure on that, so you
want to elevate it. And when you got to move around,
you see.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
What the time, what's averaged. I think six to eight
weeks is non weight bury.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
And you know, I saw I saw an article today
where they're saying guys that have had that injury and
the timetable that took, Like Kevin de Gardnet is probably
the most famou person to have that. He was off
for two years basically, Uh had it at thirty and
then he came back at thirty two. And Kevin Durant
didn't miss a beat. Dominique had it late in his career.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
If I'm not mistaken, I think Jason Tatum might be
the youngest player that's had it right, Alfonso Ellis had it.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
There have been several guys that and then every.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Every everybody, somebody heals differently too. Yes, even even though
he's he's much younger than dB.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, he's as far. Like I said, I meant to scream.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I meant to take a like a because I was
reading on the I think I was on ESPN or
somebody maybe Google.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I was googling it, and uh I was googled with it.
I could do that.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I maybe maybe I should have Maybe should maybe I
should have screenshot and said the ash.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Like witness on the board. Uh, but it but it uh,
maybe it was.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I don't think he's playing next year.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Now, you know what I think?

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yeah, that's well, I mean, Achilles, the ac is completely
different and he's.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
See I see, I see you the start of twenty six.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, he's what I say, started twenty six.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Not so he's not gonna play like the basketball seam
starting in October goals into twenty six, now twenty six
leading in the twenty seven. That's the fact. That's what
I'm coming back. Yeah, I'm gonna make sure that think.
I'm gonna make sure that think because Kevin Durant looked
like he didn't missed a beat, because remember Kevin Durant,
he missed the bubble, right, and then he.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Came back the following years.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, the question is, though, Joe, given that, are they
gonna break it up the Celtics cause you got you
got JB on the max contract, you got Derrick White,
you got a holiday, and you got Al Horford.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
I mean, speaking of breaking up, do they have the
patience to wait until he comes back to see if
they can make an the run?

Speaker 3 (03:01):
They just they just sold the team for six point
one billion.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, now this does new ownership have the patience with
understanding everything is probably lopsided.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
You're probably not making any money right now.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Anyway, they just think, oh, Joe, just think about this. Now.
Just imagine if you paid.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Three million for a car, ah, but it's gonna cost
you four hundred thousand dollars year to upkeep it.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Because that's what That's what happened.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
You paid six billion for the team, but you still
got to pay three hundred million the Jason bro JB
three hundred million to JT. You got one hundred and
thirty million, one hundred and forty million, one hundred.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Well, also, you know what she also got to understand
if you can pay six billion or web of it
may have been fourteen, and you have to pay Jason
Tatum three hundred, you got to pay Jayleen Brown three hundred,
you already got fuck you money anyway.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
But you notice what people have got money. They like
to spend money, like what they want to spend money on.
They'd like to buy a yacht, or they'll buy a
private plane. They're gonna save or where they can save
and where they normally save employees. Yeah, that's what they saved, Joe.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Hold on, I'm trying to think, George, what we saw
that uh the print that Jogger had a custom seven
forty seven, that jumbo jet. Remember we was out, Oh
decided prince uh huh. Now he's on the road with one.
It was the L a X, It was a l

(04:42):
He wasn't got one seven forty seven. Yeah, that's the biggest.
That's the biggest. That that's what the president of Air Force.
One of the seven forty seven hold somewhere between four
hundred and eighty and six hundred and fifty people.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Can you imagine how big that is?

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, and there's a different kind of money over there
on Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Want to Yeah we took, Yeah we took yeah. Oh
yeah that was in l A. Yeah yeah, I was like,
but yeah, uh, I just tell you man, he was
having it.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
He was having unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
He's about to be named to his first fourth consecutive
NBA All First Team NBA First Team All NBA.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
He was having a night last night and just like
that fluke luke.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
When he went down, You're like, did he And then
I saw him spending around and he grabbed that.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, I knew what it was. Yeah, I just I
was I was hoping for the best.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, because he had heard you say, hey man, it's
find like you got feel like you got.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Kicked, Like, man, who kicked me? Who tripped me?

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Just thinking what.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
So what if you're the Celtics cause next year he's
not playing next year? Do you break it up?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
That's a that's a that's a great question. Who's the
who's the Who's ahead of the snake now? JB?

Speaker 3 (06:25):
JB?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Well, Jason, I think Jason Tatum is the guy that
the boss is not getting up off of.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Question is.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Would you trade JB? And some draft picks. Let me
see for who. Yeah, that's it, that's it. I don't
know what I think. Yeah, uh you trade, you trade?

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Uh JB.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I'm trying to think who could you You think the
Celtics be interested in?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Kevin Garnett? I mean Kevin Durant.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I mean, damn, that's a good one. M Okay, what
do you think?

Speaker 4 (07:21):
I think some some some people will say hell no,
maybe based on age.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Nady, you could stee you eat twenty five twenty to night.
I mean, hell why not? They might say no, though.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
You'll be interested to see what they do.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I think maybe a conversation that they weren't gonna have
had the Boston Celtics did what we thought they could
capable of doing, which was repeating. I think I think
it's a uh no question that you decided to try
to let them repeat. But all best off the table
now with yo, all best off the table? Yeah, they
ure for whatever they unachieved. I'm not so sure even

(08:00):
if Jason Tatum had stayed healthy, they were going to
beat the Knicks, because that means they will have to
beat the Nicks three times. Yep, we'll never know, Joe,
We'll never know, stay tuned. Trey Henderson met with the
media today for twenty two minutes. He said he will
not play this season on the current contract. His arrival
today at voluntary OTAs as a result of things becoming

(08:22):
personal after being informed by Zach Taylor on Monday he
would be fine for missing mandatory minicamp. Let's take a
listen to what Trey told Marshall Kamanski of WCPO.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
At this point, do you want to be a Cincinnati Bengal.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Wow, that's a tough question too, because you try not
to let the business become personal. I think over the
last week or so, it's become personal unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
You know.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
And when there's a lack of communication in any relationship,
if it's a business or a personal relationship, lack of
communication and leads animosity, and that leaves my narrative only
to me with no clear direction.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I'm a Floridian.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
So there's unprovoked shark attacks and there's provoked shark attacks.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Oh, John, that's the last two seasons with Trey Hendrickson
off the field, two hundred and ninety four dropbacks. They
were dead last in success, dead last and completion rate,
dead last and passer rating dead last and pressure rate.
Bengals rank dead lasted every statistical category, passing wise when
Trey Hendrickson is off the field in nine hundred and

(09:34):
nine dropbacks when he's on the field eight in success
rate eleventh and completion rate eight and passer rating and
twelfth and pressure rate. Let's just say he's a very
important Yeah, they're.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Very important for that defense.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
But you know one thing I do hate, boy, is
this the business side of things, especially like this. They
paid Joe, you paid t Higgins, you paid you March.
I'm not sure if there's enough money to go around
and give.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Him let him go.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Wait, let me, let me give him what he's worse.
To give him what he's worth.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Somebody else do it.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, if they if they were gonna let him go,
I would have thought it been done.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Excuse me.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
I thought it would have been done, maybe before the
draft or maybe doing the draft. I'm not sure what
the issue is going on with there. I hope they
rectify the situation and he.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Ain't reg to find it organization for a decade. You
know they ain't rectifind it.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Hey, but I know, but listen, listen, you were.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Trying so hard. You're trying so hard.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
I'm just saying, I'm going to see both sides happen.
You know, let Trey get this, get the money, get
what he deserved. If you don't want to pay him,
you know what he deserves, let him go.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, let it, let him go. You know that's all,
no disrespect.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
No, And he says, you know, you try to keep
and that's why me I had a major because I
don't want to cut. Y'all gonna tell me something that
I don't want to hear, and I'm gonna be pissed.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
And listen.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
One thing about it.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
It's a good thing you do have agents, and there's
certain things that agents keep from you because if you
was in those in those rooms with your agents. But
it's time to negotiate. Yeah, this is how you really
feel about me? Yeah, oh that's how you.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Okay, bet well, you'll get pissed off.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
He would, yep. But I I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
I think there might be a situation with Trey Henderson
hold out for half the season and then come in
to get a credited for that year and bounce.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what. I don't know.
The cap situation. They still got to sign their rookies.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
And you know, like you said, you gave Joe money
a year ago, you just gave Tea. You just gave
uh Chase his paper and the linebacker remember the livebackers
said he want more bread?

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah your main prep.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Prap Yeah yeah, yeah, ain't no bread.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
And we and shambos right now on the defensive side
of the ball man.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
And that's where y'all need the most help at Yeah,
Cause the question is do you believe you'd have to
say you believe Chase is gonna have another triple crowd year.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Joe is gonna lead the lead with forty three, forty
plus touchdowns. Again, higgin's gonna have.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
The type of year he's gonna in order for you
to get back.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Now, what if your defense with I Trey Henderson, y'all
pass rush is h Yeah, and I know y'all took
a d lineman, but it's hard for me to see
a scenario he gonna give you seventeen and a half
sacks like what you call him did?

Speaker 3 (12:33):
All right, I hope he does for y'all's sake.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Y'are gonna need it because you saw as well as
your offense played last year. You lost some games forty one,
thirty eight, you lost some games thirty eight, thirty five.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, it was tough.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
It was tough, especially in the beginning of the season
where that offense often got off to a slow start.
We always start and we get ourselves in the hole
at the beginning of the season. If we could just
start fast, we wouldn't have to on teams at the
end of the season and hoping they win certain games
and lose certain games so we can get in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Exactly out of your business. Oh Joe, somebody leaked the
Week one schedule. The season opens up the Cowboys at

(13:27):
the Eagles. Okay, I no, Fox ain't happy about this
because normally you don't normally put a game that I'm
gonna do box office regardless, which is the Cowboys are
gonna do right.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
And then you got a Friday said, I'm trying to
figure out how they get this game in September. Considering
is that when they passed this regulation that the NFL
was not gonna play any Friday game as long as
the college season was in pulled swing. NFL say, if
y'all we played, we played college, we play in NFL football.
And then you got the Cleveland at the Jets, Saints

(14:01):
at Tennessee, Broncos at the Texans, the Bucks at Carolina,
the Dolphins at the Steelers, The Niners are at Indy,
the Vikings are at the Lions, the Falcons at the Patriots. Uh,
the Giants are at the Raiders, Jags are at the Cardinals,
the Bears are at Washington, Seattle at the Rams, and

(14:25):
then the uh your Bills Sunday night against at Buffalo,
and then the Monday night game the uh the Ravens
are at Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I want that's a good game. Hold on who who
the Bills played? Week one?

Speaker 3 (14:42):
They play y'all at home Sunday night.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
You know, you know, you know gonna win that, you
know gonna win.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
That man Josh Ally goes and started his back back
MVP campaigns on y'all.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Come again press.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Play back to back MVP seasons. You don't want to you'
how y'all gonna get, how y'all gonna get, how y'all
gonna sacking? Well, how do you go?

Speaker 1 (15:04):
How do y'all gonna stop? How do y'all gonna stop?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Jamar and t all? Do you got to do is
stop y'all one time.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
We know y'all can't stop anybody.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
You know, we might surprise you defensively, now, Okay, I hope,
so listen, we might surprise you.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Surprised me last year, But how bad y'all were?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Surprisingly surprise me?

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Well?

Speaker 3 (15:25):
How good you got to go to beat?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
I can't I can't wait the football season. Man, I'm
one game.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Are you most excited to see?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
If the Cowboys, Eagles, forty nine, Chiefs, Chargers, Bingles, Bengals,
Buffalo or the Ravens Green Bay?

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Honestly, to be honest, I got three games I really
want to see. I want to see the Cowboys, Eagles, yep, Bengals,
and the Bills. Yeah, and you might you might laugh
at me, but I do want to see Travis Hunter
burstus the Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Okay, I can say, y'all get that.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
I want to see how they're gonna use Travis Week
one in general is just to see and get a
test and get a field where he's at. That's what
I want to see. Okay, Yeah, I mean everybody else,
I mean it's it's it's cool games, but you know
those those three, that's that's where that's where it's at
for me.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Okay, I can rock with that.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Fox got the late game, late window, they got some
four twenty five, They got the Bears, Washington, Seattle rams.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Man, that Giants, Giants, Raiders.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
What snooze fast.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
You don't like it, I'm I'm gonna like it. I'm
gonna learn to love it. Oh, Joe, I will learn
to love it.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
But every year, every year we say.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
The teams that we think might not be any good, somebody,
a couple of teams pops their head up and become
very good.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Joe Buck and Troy Aikman made their Super Bowl picks
on Good Morning America. This morning, Buck, I'm going to say,
Buffalo finally win it. Eight Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Tory can't let go of now.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Charge is normally really objective about the Cowboys. Now I
will give him back. He's he's had a very harsh
critique when when it's been warranted.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
So he's not a homer.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Okay, okay, yeah, who you.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Got no pick this year?

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I'm I'm putting all the money I got on everybody
but the Cowboys, ABC, EBC, Brother, everybody but Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Look, I did see some preseason games.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
It's hard to just put pick blind because man, I'm
just trying to pick blind and oh show.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
You know, the preseasons keep player getting nicked.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Now now even playing the preseason, man, right they might
not Yeah, they don't.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Even playing API.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I need to see a game.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
The odds ain't gonna change that much after a game, right,
I might, if I ever had it, I might put
fifty two hundred down on somebody.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Huh, I might put fifty two hundred down.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Shoot, you'll be able to do that mother the season.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
On start to September.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Oh well, Andy, by September, that thing that fifty two
hundred's already like fifty nine hundred.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
By September, that thing might be seven.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Hey boy, I might have to put a tariff on
that taxi talking about.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Oh, they suspended the tariffs, they suspended them.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Travis Kelsey told reporters that he's lost around twenty five
pounds this offseason to be in better shape for what
it's believed to be his final season. Will Kelsey be
able to turn back the clock this season on Joe?

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Absolutely, I mean you definitely can obviously by losing weight late.
Losing weight is one of those ways used to get
get your get to your quickness back, get you.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Get your little more fleet footed.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
You know, getting some of that heavyweight up on you,
so you could be a little.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Bit more smaller and do some of the things you
used to do when you were when you was not younger,
but just a little bit a little bit lighter.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, I like, I think I definitely think it's gonna help.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I think having Rashid Rice to help lift them coverage
up off him. We saw Xavier Worthy blossom. I think
that's gonna only be better. But they need to be
able to run the ball a little better too.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
O jo, Hey, you don't like the chicko.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
No, he's been hurt. But they got to run the ball.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
They got to run the ball better. They got to
protect my homes better. I mean, they gotta do a
lot of things better. Defensively, I think they're gonna be good.
I think SPACs have them back good again defensively. But
I like the fact that Kelsey. You know, I tried
to lose like a pound a year as I got older.
H went into my final season like at two twenty six,

(19:57):
to finish the season at two twenty three. Yeah, I
just as you get older, you just can't move that.
You can't move that weight like you once could.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah. I can't. I couldn't. Maybe some people can, but
I couldn't.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Yeah, you know, I think he'll be fine too, because
it is not like he's in there block and he's
not a block.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
H Yeah, that's not that's not but he's still he
needs to be able to have that wiggle.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
He needs to be able to, you know, shake.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
But I think with Worthy being Worthy, having that rookie
year that he had, he had an outstanding Super Bowl
even though he's in a losing effort.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
He became the number of receiver to get Rashid Rice back. Uh.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
They resigned Hollywood Brown, So I think it's he hopefully
he can stay healthy, you know, because he missed half
the season, oh choe with that shoulder injury. So hopefully
he stays healthy. That'll be something that can lift.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
They got a nice little cord.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah. I think I think Kelsey got got another good year.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Then MLB Commissioner Rob Manford removed Pete Rose, Shoeless, Joe
Jackson the other deceased players from the MLB permanently ineligible
list man for rule Major League baseball punishment of banded
individuals ends upon their death. They are now presumably eligible
for the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I mean, yeah, I ain't not even here to smell
my flowers. If you do put me in there, man,
what the hell?

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, no disrespect, I think, I think. Look, this is
the greatest deterrent you can have. Yeah, I know Pete Rose.
I'm old enough to remember when Pete Rose played.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Uh remember he left the Big Red Machine, that great
team with Tom Seaver and Morgan and Concepcion and and
and and and uh Johnny Bench one of the great catchers. Uh,
and went to the Phillies, and they wanted read a
boy shoeless. Joe Ja acting three fifty six battan average.

(22:02):
Allegedly he took five thousand, five thousand dollars from a
gambler to throw the game, but he still hit three
seventy five.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
In the World Series.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
So I guess they expected him here to three hit
five hundred, because three seventy five of the World Series
is pretty damn good.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
But uh, yeah, what do you think of Joe? Somebody
got older.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
It's hard for a guy to have all those damn
hits and he's not in appropriate, and he's not in
the Braceball Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
I understand.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
I understand also on I just Pete Rose is passed on. Yeah,
if at any point he was going to have an
opportunity to get into the Hall of Fame, I mean,
I would love for it to be done where he
could have been here to.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Smell, he could enjoy it, he get enjoyed, you know,
putting them in.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
So I guess bag gonna be able to before the
Hall of Fame when he when he did, got seven
m vps the University of one of the I mean
most modern players say he's the greatest player that they've
ever seen. You go back and look at Tripper Jones,
Tom Blavin, John Smokes, Dreg Maddox. A lot of the

(23:16):
current players, I mean players that played say he's the
greatest players they've ever seen. And you hear paper tell
stories and it's true because I watched it. He got
one pitch here to night and he hit it hard somewhere. Yeah,
hit it hard somewhere. And he never tested positive. It

(23:38):
wasn't an issue when everybody was hooping and Holliday in
the stated.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
With jam Pat.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
So and that's crazy, but it's hard.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
To watch what he did is amazing. I don't think whatever.
It's kind of like if you saw Tiger, you're never
gonna see it again. If you saw Badarry, You're never
gonna see what he did again. And show Hayes unbelievable.
I'm not taking anything away from Shoe Hill, Tana because
Dave Roberts, who played with Barry, said, show Hey is
the closest thing to Barry.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
But you look at Barry's ops, and you look at
his slugging percentage.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, and walk they will at least pitch the show
hate they they walked Barry with the bases loaded. Now
you going here, say third base, you're going You're going
home because I better righted and I throw a coach play.
He's gonna be a grand slap.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
I give up one man.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Listen, Barr Barry's hand nine coordination man being able to
find and be able to find that ball with that batman.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
What second and none? It is second, second to none?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
The Green Bay package guard Sean Ryan came within two
snaps shot of capping off his third NFL season with
a two million dollar bonus ESPN reported that Ryan was
two snaps away from playing thirty five percent of the
package played offensive snaps between twenty twenty two and twenty
twenty four, that mark specified in the CBA, which would
have earned him an additional bonus of two million, forty two,

(25:12):
four hundred and twenty nine dollars. It was previously believed
Ryan had hit the mark. Unofficial stats provided by Pro
Football indicated that Ryan was sixty five snaps short of
reaching the bonus. Heading into the last game of the season,
Ryan played exactly sixty five snaps and the loss to
the Bears is they just said we had him at
thirty five percent of snaps exactly. However, the NFL and

(25:34):
the nfl PA both had him just under. So per Packers,
they're not giving him the escalator, and we're pretty disappointed
about it for sure.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Damn one thing by it, one thing about him. Why
they do not play when a come of that money.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
What they standsy boy? And I've heard, I've heard I was.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Five yards short and they give me my one hundred thousand.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Hey, they will play that, They will play with you
like that? Yeah, crazy, And obviously I mean, the NFL pay,
the NFL p A has to do something about that.
They gotta do something about that because if if if
he's played sixty five snaps in the last game, I mean,
he should be able to get that that escalator or
that incentive. There should be no reason, no reason why

(26:17):
they miscount is well, I go back and watch every
film and every snap, every last one.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I need that.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
That's why you have to be like, see when you
got stuff like that, you don't really know about OYO
and you're coming out, Hey, hey Ryan such and such
as U Nah, hell he ain't. He must be gonna
play left guard because I'm the right guard right, I'm
playing all the way to the end. I'm taking victory form.
Bat a meal down. That's a snap for joke. I

(26:48):
called time, Hey, tipe out. I need to get this
meal down. Hey hell nah, Yeah, they ain't give me
about one hundred thousand for five yards?

Speaker 3 (26:59):
So are you right? On't Joe?

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Hey, they don't play. I've heard many horror stories.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Man coaches, head coaches, people calling from up upstairs, you know,
pull so and so out because if they hit a
certain amount of yards and if they get a catch,
if they they they get this amount of plays this game,
we have to pay an incentives, and you know the
teams really don't want to pay it. That's what I
told you, And they will show you. They will show
you how dirty and griming that this is by pulling

(27:26):
you out so you can't get those incentives.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
I stopped putting incentives in my contract because I if
you paying me X amount of dollars, I'm supposed to
lead the team in receiving. I'm supposed to go to
the Pro Bowl. I'm supposed to be all pro. So
I don't want you jossely with that. So don't worry
about it. Go and give me my money up front,
and then I do the rest from here, Right Ato, Joe,
we gonna get out here on this when it's time

(27:49):
for our final sigma. The evening, it's time for Q
and a Q and A ton G said, it's hard
being a Nuggets fan. What did the Nuggets need to
do to give Joker more help? He got what he got. Now, hey,

(28:10):
he might have less help when he signed that three year,
two hundred and twenty one million dollar contract.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Do you think he'll sign it?

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Hold on, I mean you think he will sign it. Yeah,
why wouldn't you just pull a move like like, thank
jaylen Brusse did what take it? So he can build
around you because he not young like Jalen Brunson. Okay, okay, okay,
triple X cop Sanday.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
We can't say Lakers in five. Now we have to
say Pacers in five. The ball and shot call in
nineteen ninety nine. Hey, uh, you remember a UN's draft
If you do, which is the obvious, it was ridden
this draft of that draft that was the first year
of the lottery. Prior to that, you know, teams tank.
The Rockets got the number one pick two years in

(29:01):
the row. They got raph Samson in eighty three, and
they turned around and got a line you on in
eighty four, and then to put it, they installed the lottery.
James Worthy was the first pick in the draft in
eighty two. Now, man, mind you thinking about this. James
Worthy was the first pick in the draft in eighty two.
The Lakers won the championship and then they get James Worthy.
Hm hm.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Eighty one was Mark Guire, seventy nine was was Magic.
I don't know who's hell. Seventy eight was seventy eight
Michael Thompson. I think seventy eight was Michael Thompson. Who
the first pick in the draft in eighty eighty was

(29:51):
Joe back Heap. Who's the Joe back Heal? I thought
so bad.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I'm just born, I you know, and listen, don't want
to do that on y'all. I'm sorry. I wasn't. I
wasn't there back in them days. I was, I was chilling.
I was on the pall.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Cooper flag is the perfect situation.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
He's coming into the third option when Kyrie comes back
and Jason Kidd can develop players. Yeah, I mean people,
people definitely believe this draft was rigged. They give up
Luca and they turned around to get.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
So how convenient.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yes, now they say, you know what, we're going to
replace what you lost? Cool flag. It is trash talk, Tito.
What's the looking on your question? Is it harder to
be a two sports pro athlete or win back to
back titles? I think there's been more back to back
titles than two sports. I can only think of Bowl

(30:52):
and Dion.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, well, I'm I'm a two score athlete.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
What bull jiving and what the other sports you play?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I mean, obviously I'm I'm an NFL player.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Okay, but did you do that simultaneous while you were
playing in the NFL? Yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
I was a professional ping pong player as well. Uh
in the off season.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
No, it got to be in the season. Oh no,
you gotta leave one. So are you on the are
you on the were you on the circuit?

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Almost? I missed it. I missed it three times?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Uh yeah, I mean I can look. Brian Jordan did too.
Brian Jordan was a safety. He was also played safety,
and he ended up going to the Cardinals. He gave
up the football to play baseball full time. Bo and
Dion those are only ones I can think about it now.
I know other players that were drafted. I think Dave
Winfield was drafted in three sports baseball, football, and basketball.
Twenty go In was drafted in two sports basketball, all

(32:00):
in baseball, but to actually physically do it. Yeah, And
many people said baseball is the hardest sport to play.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
M Hey, who was he?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Who was the receiver from Notre Dame? Was a receiver
from Notre Dame, but he went to baseball instead.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
He was a picture remember Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I forgot I forgot his last name.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
He went to the he went to the he went
to the Cubs.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
He's still he's still playing.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
He might be done that a long time ago. Ojoe.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Okay, okay, okay, I know I can't.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Think of this guy's name, Ojo.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
I don't know why I just thought of that when.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Marger Jeff Yeah, Larger.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, he was a nice little he was a smooth little,
smooth receiver.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Man.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, we ain't spelling that one. Marg Yeah. I mean, hey,
he had a ninety self mile loud fastball.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
He's like, you know what, I could be a possession
receiver and make minimum or I go get this big
payday from the main the leagues. Oh yeah, but he
played what he played like seven eight years in the Major.
He got called up, make good little try to change.
Oh yeah, so he had to play. He played like
seven eight years then with a record like that, because

(33:14):
ain't nobody really pitching those thirty games?

Speaker 3 (33:16):
No more like back in the day.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Really damn wherever he played thirteen seasons oh eight to
twenty twenty all cardio note skill, Hey on, get on
your huge fan question. Would you rather have a long,
consistent career or a short legendary run? How short, the
legendary run. If I'm gonna have a career like a
like Gae Sales or Sterling sharp TD, I mean, I mean,

(33:47):
but hold on to see lyn sanity.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Would that be a legendary run?

Speaker 3 (33:52):
No, Okay, one year.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
That's it? Hey, yeah boy year boy. He was gonna fire.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Boy. Yeah, he was sensational. He was on fire, A
long consistent. That's a good question.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I'm gonna take the consistent. I'm gonna take the consistency.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah, because that bread come with that.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Huh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Uh yeah, I think I would go. I think I
think I have a long consistent career. I take the consistency.
Bits again, Uncle o, your love the show. If you
could bring back one retired player for one season, who
is it? What's the sport? Baseball? Bad Bonds? Basketball? I

(34:47):
bring back Jordan football, I bring back my brother he healthy.
Mm hmmm, I'm selfish. Who you bringing back baseball?

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Oh my goodness, baseball? Give me give me.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
I'm more entertainment, many being many, Yeah, give me some entertainment.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
I want you gonna go football. Matter of fact, we
bring up I'm bringing bringing t Yo back.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah, you still want to play, so I don't want
to bring too back so he can he can live
that out one more time he does.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Who else?

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Who else? What other sport we got?

Speaker 3 (35:37):
You got a baseball? You have basketball? Who you bringing back?

Speaker 1 (35:41):
I want? I want my beloved Kobe, Kobe. I want
my beloved Kobe back.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Man.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Let me see what else we got.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Hockey?

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Gretzky, Gretsky, Yeah, Greg, Yeah, Greg, gret is a good one. Tennis.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
I want Arena to come back and be and beat
Margaret Court's record.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
That's a good one.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah. General, I love fed the Swiss maestro. But Serena, Serena,
I like that. I like it. I like it. Okyo,
Harry who that said question? Would you rather win?

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Five?

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Would you rather win one ring as a star or
five as a role player? Five? Five?

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Okay? Am I either sixth or seventh man, or I'm
level the twelve because if I'm Robert Rory, I'm taking
Robert Lorriy right.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
What happened to you?

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Just happened to be on the team?

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Nah, hell no, it's a lot.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
It's a lot of you know, just sometimes people are
fortunate just to be in the right place at the
right time.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
True, damn, he could have made it more compeller. He
could have said two three, The man said one ye,
sax and halftime. If you had to start, bench cut
Cam New, Lamar Jackson, Michael Vick, Come on, Lamar.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Oh damn, man, come on, man who came up with
that question?

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I'm starting Lamar damn.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, I'm gonna pass on that one. You gotta answer
O Yoe, No, don't.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah you do.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I'm starting all of them.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
You can't start. You can't start three quarterbacks. He that
See if you in basketball you have a good chance.
You said, you know what, I'm starting three point guard.
You can't start three quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Mallam, why you should have did fun Mary kill instead
of the three quarterback on?

Speaker 1 (38:12):
That's the that's the original.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
I look, I mean, we got to do this. I
think I was.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I would starting Lamar, I would bench Mike Damn Cam. Yeah,
I'm sorry, and that do Cavi the only one that
went to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Mike did.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
But like I said, I gotta bench Mike because the
Michael Big experience he got.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Can't get rid of it. I can't can't. And l Jack.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Damn, I wish A part of me wish when when
Lamar was a free agent and they franchised him.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Atlanta would have got him. Can you imagine Lamar and
Lama on that turf?

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Man, Listen, I'm still trying to forget who was the
idiot that said what was it the owner that said
something crazy?

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Off blank.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
If somebody said something crazy about him by him being
in Atlanta?

Speaker 1 (39:10):
I forgot what it was.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Man. But but yeah, I know all that. But who
you starting? Who you benching? Who you cutting? Matter of fact?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
You know what I'm going. I'm going old I'm going.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
I'm going old heads. I'm going then since since Cam
has been to Super Bowl, I'm starting Cam.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, I know. Put im put Mike on the bench
and I'm holding this. Listen to me. I'm I'm putting them.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
I'm cutting Lamar because Lamar still playing right now and
this is just hypothetical.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
So boom, dad is I'm keeping. I'm sticking with me
yet with the boys from my era.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
All right, good job about you? Six foot a quiry
said eighty six Celtics win the title. Then they draft
Land by us a big f yep, because Man was unbui.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
He bumped out Hey in comparison to players in today's game.
Who would Limbias be like, Oh my god, he.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Was six foot eight.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
He could handle the ball, he could shoot it, he
can Oh my god, he played above the rim.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
He was a jump or two. Hell yeah, I'm trying
to think who we remind you of? He was a
bigger ad man. What he played like that?

Speaker 5 (40:44):
M hm?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
He was special? He was special, damn.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
And we got we got, we got robbed of greatness.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, yeah, you did, you did, because think about it,
he's gonna take some of that lifting off of Larry.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
So you had him, Larry Michel Parrish DJ Lenny was special.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Johns Daniel said, how should a regular fan approach y'all
in public for pictures?

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Et cetera? Hey man, how you doing? What's going on?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Man?

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Man? I love your show? Man, I love you and
old show together. Man, y'all be doing? Hey man? Can
I grab this picture?

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (41:40):
This this is the way. Don't do it? Hey man,
I gotta get this picture. No, Hey, you like the show?

Speaker 2 (41:49):
You watch unkin o'hoe, you love Nightcap occasionally you catch up?
I love a club Shay Shade.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Can I call you?

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Ma?

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Can I get a picture?

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Come on, bro, listen, I don't care how you approached me.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
I don't go you know what, Oh cupcake, Mama been
a while. Good evening, guys.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
My nephew, Kayton Turner, a senior at Summerville High, signed
with Figler Flagler College today for track and field.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Please give him a shout out and some encouraging words.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Kayden, Congratulations, Broke going to college track scholarship. Work hard, bro, Congratulations,
You've earned this. And guess what, your parents don't have
to pay for college and you ain't got to get
a job to pay for college. That's always the best.
Do your best, bro, Do the absolute best. That's all
you could ask. That's all you can ask for yourself.
Give it your absolute best.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Congratulations man, and just remember one thing, no matter how
hard you work, no matter.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
What you do, you'll never be able to beat me running.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Oh Lord, have mercy, Oh chuck.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
If boy Mercer said, Hey, guys, want to ask for
a shout out for my wife, Ashley as she gave
birth to my daughter Ariel two months ago. Mom and
babe are doing well, ash Ashley got I already game
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(43:17):
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you watching, man, appreciate your support. Hopefully you'll get mom
and baby watching when they're older, when she the baby
is old enough, Hopefully you and mom y'all watch us
like uncin Ocho. But congratulations, glad, everybody's healthy, everybody's doing well.
Thank you for the Nightcap crew, Unky Ocho. That concludes

(43:39):
this episode of Nightcap. The Indiana Pacers dispense of the
number one seed Cleveland Cavaliers by the score of one
fourteen to one oh five, and they take the series
four games to one. Okay, see moves a step closer.
They up now three to two, one twelve to one
oh five with aim six. On Thursday End Denver, they

(44:02):
try to close it out and then wait for the
winner of Golden State, which we'll know tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Golden State and the Minnesota timber Woods.

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