July 15, 2025 • 60 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nine of is Juwan Jennings wants a new deal or
a trade. He scheduled to make seven point five million
in that it marks the second straight summer. You gotta
understand on shoe, he was the third receiver. Remember they
had debo there, they had Brandon Aiyuk. They gave Deebo
to deal first. They got Brandon Ayyuk last year. So
(00:20):
you're the third receiver. You know, hey, not get them
get that many targets. Hey, that pretty good seven and
a half million, third receiver.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But he said, I ain't.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Huh. How about how about we pay him for all
those time Christian McCaffrey, all them times Christian McCaffrey made
some of those long runs. You know who sprung him open?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh yeah, Jenny, he won the best blocking.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Come on now, let's let's let's reward young bull for
all for for the dirty work that people don't get
to see.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I agree, it marks the second straight summer. The forty
nine ers are in a situation where receiver wants it
to be paid or traded. Last year it was Brandon A.
Jennings has approached the forty nine ers about the request,
but little progress has been made. If a new deal
is not reached by the time training camp starts next week,
Jennings plans to request a trade to a team willing
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to pay him. You got to be at this time
you you ain't no team winning the trade, ain't no
team careful too.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You got to be careful doing that too. You know,
you got you.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Beat find yourself on the street and get in the
middlemist contract.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
No disrespect to him, but you got to be to
be able to pull that off. You know them type
of Shenigan Shenanigans. You got to be that. You got
to be that boy. Now I'm not saying I'm yeah,
very very good at what he does, very very good
at what he does. Yes, in that system, but you
have to understand, look at the landscape of the NFL,
look at the other teams and see where you would
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fit in. We will still be able to contribute the
way that you did here in San France, because everybody
else is already set. If you think about it, everybody
has there, one, two and three's already. You know, we
just had a draft, So you have to you got
to be careful and saying you know what, Okay, you
know what, I don't want to be here no more.
I don't want to be a no more. Okay, but
where am I going?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Hey? But see that? Hey, you see what to do? Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
If I work at a fast food restaurant, I wait
to the busiest time the business time between what eleven
and one? Hey, y'all give me a raise. I'm up
out of here. I don't know who gonna cook the fries. Hey,
what how about y'all make it thirteen?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I need sixteen to the hour. I'm sorry, we can't
do that, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
But one thing about it on that run, on that
run they had that that that I'm gonna just call
it historic season because it was to me. When they
played the Chiefs, jamn was phenomenal. When Brandon I who
went out when Deebo was hurt. You know who was
making those plays and making.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Those catches, Jawan j Yeah, that was that was last.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I'm not bad. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You know who
is making them plays, Jawan Jennings.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, so he showed hee seventy seven catches.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The only thing is block he can catch and make
plays too.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, I like it, like but I just don't know,
Oh yo, with the money, they just paid party, the
money they got tied up in McCaffrey, the money they
got tried up and Kittle, the money they got tied
up in Bosa, the money they got tied up in
the Red Corner, the money they got tied up and
Big and Williams, Big Trent.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You could do you could do something.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Because you ain't paying me, no ship me, ain't paying me,
then send me in now the peanuts. No disrespect to
those that are watching the chat. I'm speaking in football
NFL terms. Peanuts right, come.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
On now, hey, so can you can you give us
one more year? Like that?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And they're gonna they're gonna play with you again. They're
gonna play with you again. Man, Nah, they won't.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
They won't play with him ojo. They just know that.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Okay, you know we're gonna be able to pay him
and uh and Plus the thing is they got Pier Pierce,
all right, and that the guy they got the AFLM Florida.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
He end up getting shot and he came back and
he played well.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Stretch, So I can see a full training camp under
this belt.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I like it, like it. I like Juwann Jennings two.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, the Steelers are favoriting only six of their seventeen
games this upcoming season. Week one minus three at the Jets,
Week two, Seattle Seahawks at home, minus one and a half,
Week six, the Browns minus six and a half, Week nine,
the Coats minus three and a half. Week fifteen the
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Dolphins minus two and a half. Week seventeen at the
Browns minus two and a half. Should Vegas be giving
Aaron Rodgers more respect?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I mean, Vegas is gonna base everything off that Aaron Rodgers.
We saw last year. Vegas going to base everything off
that Aaron Rodgers we saw last year. Now what I old, what.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I do know.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
What we're gonna get is we're gonna have games where
Aaron Rodgers looks like Aaron Rodgers of Bowl. Then we're
gonna have games you'll be like, man, what the hell
was that? That's just the nature of the business. As
you get older as quarterback, We're gonna have flashes of brilliants.
We're gonna have flashes of that's why he's a four
time MVP. But then you're gonna have some games where
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it can be like, man, what the hell was that? Yes,
and he's not He's not in a position anymore. With
this type of quarterback that can elevate the players around him,
he's gonna need the players around him to elevate him
and make him job easy.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's happened to all of them, and I'm old enough
to remember them. Because the player, the quarterback used to
can elevate the players. They say, rising tide, you know,
raises all shifts. And that's what the really great quarterbacks
can do. They can elevate everybody around them. But as
they started to get older, they needed players around them
to lift them up. So because guess what, now, I
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need a lot of boat. So, in other words, you
go back, go back and study history. Look at the guys.
Look at Peyton, and look at Tom, and look at
all those guys as they started to get older, guys
that have won multiple m vps, guys that have won
multiple Super Bowls. Look what it took. Look at Tom
and Tampa. Look at the defense he had. Look at
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Chris Godney, look at Mike Evans. Look at what they had.
Let's be real, look at look at Peyton. He got
the Denver, look with the hair. They had Decker, they
had Julius Thomas, they had the Marius Thomas just sold.
They had a Wes Welker, they had Stokely there for
a minute. No Seaman Reno in the backfield. So as
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as as the quarterbacks, quarterbacks got older, you know, Joe,
Joe a it takes it just takes more the guys
that you just can't do it. It doesn't have you know,
it is what it is. And and and I think
the thing is is that when you see that, you
understand it. And uh, they're looking at it like, yeah,
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he he don't have the Eagles offense around it. He
doesn't have a Sakwan. He doesn't have you know. Look,
I like DK and I think, uh uh uh, what's
the other.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Austin Calvin Austin Calvin Calvin Austin the third?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
They got some quality receivers. I like Fried you.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Offensive line mostly if that I need the offensive line.
But your best defensive player is unhappy with his contract.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
T j Y.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Hey, you know they got Jayden Ramsey over there, Joey
Porter Jr.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Hold on, yeah, and are they going for it?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Hey? Where that defense gonna be? Nice boy?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Hey Jayleen Ramsey, So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Are you gonna put jay ram in safety? Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Shoot, that's a good question. No no, no, no, no no.
I think you're gonna have Ja damn what they gonna do.
So now now you've got to be thinking. You got
Joey Porter. He's staying on one side at so where
slave gonna go? Slate? Slave? Might you think?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I think? I think.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think, all things being equal, I think Jalen Ramsey
can can transition because I think he can transition to
safety better than those other two guys can.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And then when they go and then when they.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Go three wives, he can go out and Darris can
go to the nigga.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Okay, okay, I like that. I like that either way go.
When the Steelers play the Bengals, we know what's gonna happen.
They still gonna get this work. They're still gonna.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Get this work.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
You think absolutely and this I love I love Slay,
I love Joey Porter Jr.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Too.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I love Jaalen Ramsey. But when you play the Bengals,
and it's to all my Steeler fans that are watching
as much as I loved y'all because I show loved
you and you show love to me. But we're gonna
get We're gonna get in and you.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Know what, man, you're doing a lot of talking. You're
doing the kind of talking last year to beat.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
We beat the Steelers. Okay, I'm just letting you know
we're gonna beat them again, and we're gonna start the
season five and oh that's that's been our achilles here.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Have y'all ever started the season five?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah? Yeah, two thousand and five, we started oh my
bad four and oh.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
But this year, this is the year we started now
five and oh, so we don't have to rely on
no teams at the end of the season, sitting there
by the goddamn jumbo tron, hoping they need somebody else
in the.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Game, hoping and prayer, hoping and praying that won't be
us this year, and dominicant Sue officially announces his retirement.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
How will sue career be remembered?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Dominant? He was a dominant force. He was a dominant force.
He had he had some he had some hiccups. You know,
he has some hiccups on the field. You know, uh,
you know, we all have. You know, they tried to
try to coin him as a as a dirty player,
you know, I mean, he bought it on himself a
little bit, but boy.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, I ain't gonna say. Listen, he would the cleanest
player if you say.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
But one thing about it. Man, he could go man,
go man. He was good dude, man, real good dude.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I'm surprised, don't yo.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Watching him at the University of Nebraska, he was one
of the most dominant players. And I'm old enough to
remember Warren Sap when he came out. I'm old enough
to remember I remember Reggie White when he came out,
although he was at the University of Tennessee and he
ended up going to UH. He went to the USFL
first figure went to Memphis the show votes before he
came into the NFL. I thought in Dominican su I
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am shocked that he's not a he didn't win defensive
Player to year. If you watched him in college, he
was dominant, Beyond dominant. You watched him again in that
Texas game. I've never and I've seen some defensive players,
and like I said, I'm a year younger behind DT.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Rest your soul.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
He had what twenty seven sacks and eleven games, but
at the time, they didn't keep they didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Chart sacks as a stat in the NCAA.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I think Suggs has the record with twenty four, but
DT had a twenty seven sacks. Sue had that kind
of season he was as a defensive task that's crazy,
that's crazy. I remember calling my homeboy Bucket and said, Bucket, Man,
they got this dude out here name and Dominican Sue
from Nebraska. He said, man, what is theame? I said,
(11:21):
Dominican Sue. He cut hey and he like a he
like a double edged sword. He couldn't ask lefting right,
bad bad he And I think you're oh shoe, you're right.
I think because he was a dominant player, but I
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think his plague got overshadowed by.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Some of his antiques.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And for me, you know, they're that that that fine line.
I think they're just like, man, if you meet him
off the field, I had a conversation with him, I
had him on the part. I had a conversation with him,
and he's just like so mild mannered boy.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
He put, hey, bro.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Who are you okay?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
He turned into different something different. Yes, yes, And I
guess that's what you know. Defensive players, that's what they
have to they have to be that way. But man,
he was a pro bowler. I think he went to
what three four Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I can't I came by how many. I think some
injuries might have hampered him towards the end of his career.
I think it's back.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, he ended up.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
You know, he had the Lions and then he went
and got that big contract from the Dolphins and then
it kind of from there. He got released and they
kind of bounced around. He went to the Rams, he
went to the Bucks, UH went to UH. I think
he finished his career in Philly.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Think about this. There was a time where Aaron Donald
and dominant Schoue was on the same defensive line. Man, Yeah,
and stopped playing. Stop playing.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And if you go back and look at Aaron donald
tape when he is a pit and you go back
and look at study of dogars and dominicance, Sue was
just as dominant, if not more dominant, than Aaron Donald
was in the university pit.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Go back and look at it and look at look
at the Dominakan Sue tape.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Hey like a man, a man amongst boys out there. Man, man, he's.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
A massive I mean for a d to do what
he does at his size, because he's not a big man,
I mean he be in tom of normal. Oh yo,
see you and I we look at like like he
not like football players like.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
And people won't understand that when you see him player
on the field and he's so dominant and if you
see him in person, you be like you was doing that.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I remember the first thing the first time I saw
it about Joe.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
They're like, man, that's and I'm looking at him like damn,
that's the one that'll be good.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, a strong as an ox hold on matter of fact,
just to give for people in the chat, and I'm
not trying to be funny. I'm not making no joke.
Aaron Donald's feet are just as quick as some of
the receivers in the NFL, just to give you a
bet context on how quick and fast in twenty years
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not that big. But when it comes to technique, man
stop playing and then he's strong as hell.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh. I mean he could do it.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Everything.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
He could turn, he can turn speed, the power, he
could bend the edge, he could bull you, he could
cross your faith. I mean Aaron Donald was a total package.
I mean you look at a guy and what it
was o Joe is that people looked at him and
because of his stature they're like, nah boy, ten years
in the league, eight times First Team All Pro, three
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Defensive Player of.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
The Year, ten Pro Bowls, a Rookie of the Year
at a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I can make a case he could have been easily
been Super Bowl MVPO.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Joe Oh, especially especially ruining the ask play for us
to get a first down.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
If you go back. No, but what about the player
that he stopped them on third down? He stopped him,
He split the double team.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Oh could have goddamned guard and crashed down common sense.
That's football, one on one. Now you open up and
you see a d right there.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
The only comment I know is the rapper of the
out of Chicago. That's the only comment I know. That
other thing that you you talked about, and I know
the book by Thomas paying common sense. But other than that,
who I think when it's all, I think you have
to make a.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Case for him.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
He's wonted three or four best defensive players in history
all times. Yes, for sure, for sure, for sure because
his resume. You look at his resume, the eight first
team All Pro. There haven't been very many guys that's
been an eight time first team All Pro.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You gotta go back to LG. He might be the only.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
One for a defensive player. Hold on, not only a
defensive player. We talk about the interior linement. We're talk
about a D tackle D. He takes a double ts
most of the goddamn time.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yep, yep, yep. I think you gotta look at like
first team All Pros is looking at like LT. I
think LT got eight in his first ten years. He
got three Defensive Player of the Year with LT jumps
all the defensive players that he has a league MVP.
I don't think we'll ever see that again. So I
think they're safe. I think Alan Page.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And the LT.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think they're gonna go down as the only two
defensive players to win get him in PA unless somebody
gets Unless somebody get twenty five twenty six sacks on Joe.
I just don't see how with the quarterback, because think
about what you do, Ojoe. If we add another game,
what that means. A quarterback gets an opportunity to throw
more touchdowns, He gets an opportunity to throw for more yards.
So Peyton Manning threw for what fifty four hundred? What
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if a quarterback throw for fifty eight hundred? How you
gonna give somebody the MVP of a quarterback they throw
for fifty eight hundred yards and sixty touchdowns, even if
the defensive player has twenty five twenty six touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I don't know. We might be looking at another another
defensive player, even though he's a rookie coming out that
might put together some type of Lawrence Taylor type performance.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Are you talk about trave Oh you're talking about the
guy out of the Penn State.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Listen. He's yeah, you want to wear fifty six.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
So he got to work cut that boy.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
LT was also Defensive Rookie of the Year and Defensive
Player of the Year in his rookie season.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
People to see.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Joe like, like I said, I'm old enough to real
but people don't realize how.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Good l Tait.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I remember I was young, but my grandfather helped me
get a better understanding until I until I understood and
learned the game, and I was like okay and saw
the film. Oh, this is why Bill Belichick was always
raving about l. T Still to this day, I get it.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
He was he because he could do it all. He
made two positions famous. No other player in the history
of the game has made two positions famous. He made
the left tackle famous. He dated the rush, made the
rush linebacker famous.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I like it. I like it. I like it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I mean without l T, you don't have a you
don't have a DT. You don't have a von Miller,
you don't have a T. J.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Watt.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Those guys are DeMarcus where a Sean Merriman. That's DT,
that's A that's l T. And then the left tackle,
the left tackle, the Trick Williams, the guy that you
see now. He made that position famous because if you
couldn't block LT, you couldn't you could not win the
nfcas and you got to the playoffs. That's why Minnesota
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they went and Gary Zimmerman, and they went got herb Eatman,
and they got in the shade and they got Jakobe.
You couldn't block LT, you couldn't beat the giants.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Hell, wait a minute, who was on the other side.
Carl Banks?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Carl Banks, call Banks, and they had Harry Carson. They
had Harry Carson, They had Van pel Brand van Pelt
and then van Pelt left.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
They had pelp Remember.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You know they were coming to teams had Arison Waller's safety,
Mark Collins. They were physical. If you go back and
study course Belichick, he wont big physical. Look at his linebackers,
big and two gaps holding William McGinnis. Yes, yes, you
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go back and look look at Pepper, look at Carl Banks,
look at lt look at Harry Carson, look at his lineman.
They play three four defense, big Jim Burt crap, that's
what he wants. You go back and look at those
guys when the uh Seymour Vince Walfa, they're gonna play
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cover two now. And then he got away from that
once he got a he got what's the guy named
Reeves and he had Stefan Gilmore played a lot more run.
But coach Belichick base that he'll come to guys, keep
everything in front.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Of me and listen, and I'm taking it. I'm taking
away your number one option. You might as well take
the day off. Whoever the number one option is, take
the day off.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Uh oh choe.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
CBS Fantasy Football dropped their wide receivers tier rankings a
Tier one Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, C. D. Lamb, Tier two,
poking the cool elite neighbors Nico Collins and Rock Saint Brown.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Tiers three.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You had Brian Thomas, junr Aj Brown, Drake London, Tier four,
T Higgins, Lad McConkie, Tyreek Hill. Rashid writes Davonte Adams.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Hold on and what motherfucker? Oh, I'm sorry, God forgive
me because I just gotta say. I just gotta say
if I just got baptized two weeks ago, because the
last one was wearing off? And what world is Tyreek
a tier four in anything? In anything? Let's just start
there in anything. Now. What I don't like about the
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tier rankings is is not enough receivers in the Tier one.
How do they choose that it has to be at
least five, but there are at least five receivers.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I guess they're saying fantasy. I guess oh oh.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, okay, okay, now man now mane now man now man. Yeah,
that's different. So fantasy is hard for me to to
to kind of digest, you know, taking it serious, because
fantasy is week to week.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It is week to week.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
You know, you never know who's gonna go off. Now,
obviously you have your main you have your main bulls
that gonna get opportunities to make sure they get you
your numbers. But you just never know, man, fantasy is
a very very difficult, very very difficult.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It is.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It's fifty percent luck and fifty percent making sure you
have the right players.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
But I mean, if Molik Neighbors put up the numbers
he put up, I think they should put it be
a little better.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Even with Russ.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Although Russ is not what he was in Seattle, I
still think he's better than What.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
To think about it is you got Russell Wilson, right,
even if he's not what he once was in Seattle,
he has a player around him that is elite that
can raise his level of play. Wait a minute, you
meant I got another Uno out of here. That makes
my job easy. All they have to do is get
him the ball. Put the ball in the vicinity short, intermediate, long.
(22:55):
Boy Milice Neighbor could do it all man, you can.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Who you got? Ohio?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Who?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What's wide receiving?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
You?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
L s U Or Ohio State and listen or Alabamas.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
At one point it was Alabama. Alabama was running the show.
Ohio State stole it for a little bit. But boy,
L s U L s you done took over. They
running with a They running with him now they got
like a four.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
One turn around. H Brian Thalas Jr.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Man they cutting the food man. And I don't think
people understand how good Brian Thomas Jr.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Is.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I think it's I think it's Cousin's in Jacksonville. But
if you if you're watching me, if you watching his
rookie year, matter of fact, I didn't say his name
enough time, just watch you'll see absolutely.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, like you said, o Jo, it's they're looking at like, uh,
scoring things like that. So yeah, okay, but I mean,
if Davonte gonna be tire fort, he should be up
high considered he got.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Up well, listen, you got Matthew Stafford. But also look
what they did the Cooper Cup because pooking the coop
was getting all the opportunities. So just with that, the
addition of Davonte Adams being there, how is Sean McVay
gonna use him? Are they gonna still put pooking the
coup in all the positions to get all the goddamn balls?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Well, the thing was, o Jo, if you go back
your study, look at Cooper Cup hadn't been the same
since he had that historic season. When you catch that
many balls over the course of a season, think about
how many pass he caught. He called for one forty
seven in the regular season. So okay, if you catch
one forty seven, that means they got to throw you
at least two hundred balls. Now think about how many
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calls in the postseason. He wasn't never the same.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Hey, can you imagine? Hey, can Ash hear me?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Ash?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
What's the most catches I've had in the season. I've
never hit over one hundred. I wonder what I wonder
what my numbers would look like somebody in the chat,
somebody in the chat that's really good at numbers. Right,
look at my best statistical career and how many catches
I had.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And you were an explosive. You weren't a catch guy.
You'd have five catches one hundred and thirty yards. That's
what you were. You weren't a guy that catched ten,
twelve thirty. That's not what you were. You are down
the field thread deep threats ain't gonna have that man.
You know, every once in a while you'll get a
guy that's a deep threat, especially in your era. Now
now it's different. You look at Tyreek Tyreek deep and
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having one fifteen.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It wasn't like that.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Hey, I wonder what it looked like. What if I
had one hundred and forty seven catches. I wonder what
my numbers would be for just say my best.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Season, whether to get you that many catches though you
you're not gonna be You're not gonna have no fourteen
or fifteen yards per catch average.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You do realize bumble screen stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I don't like them screens.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
You try to catch for yards.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Ninety seven is the most catches I ever had. But
I was I was a yardist monster. I don't know
if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, some people that's what I was on, Joe.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I could I had yards? I didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I wasn't a touchdown guy like you look at Gonzo,
you look at a Gates, you look at like Trap
or Gronk.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Down the field. I'm gonna get me. I'm gonna have
a one hundred. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get the yard.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Joe, Just think about one hundred and forty seven, man
I would have had. I would have had about three
thousand yards. Man I did. I'm not. I could be
honest with you that that was a weakness of mine,
all them bubble screens and all that like bubble screens
and nah, man, don't know, don't don't do that to me.
I need to be running forward. I don't want nobody
running at knee.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, I ain't trying to
do all that. That's a lot of pounders, that's a
lot of his But but oh Joe, they started throwing uh,
they started started throwing those screens like Peyton started hitting Marvin.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Them with those with the bubble screen. Jail screen. That
wasn't that wasn't that wasn't prominent like in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Not really, it wasn't. Guys tried to push the ball
down the field. Now you got to run and shoot,
you know. But that went away because your quarterback was
getting getting getting blasted. So they got out of the
running shoot because they would tell your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Ass up. My most I had eighty seven in nineteen
ninety four.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Damn and I missed. I missed a couple of games.
O Joe had spray knee. I'd have got a hunted
that year, got a hunted, would have got a hunded.
I had eighty one, yeah, eighty one. I had eighty
one and ninety three. I had eighty seven. I had
eighty in ninety six seventy two. What I haven't bought
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what happened in Baltimore. I think I had seventy something
in Baltimore. Damn Okay, y'all had sixty seventy seventy three.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Well, y'all didn't even y'all don't even really throw the ball.
Then y'all had Jamal Looke. No, you ain't had Jamal Lewis,
who the running back was.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, yeah, Jabal was there. I got there in two thousand.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Jamal big as man. Ain't no way you get through
a doorway with a big ass shoulder pass on.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
And you know when I was in Denvi, we ain't
throw the ball like that, not with TV back there.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah t back. Damn.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Vegas released their brown starting quarterback to start Week one.
Joe Flacco minus one O two Kenny Pickett plus two
hundred Shador Sanders plus eight seventy Dylan Gabriel plus five
hundred O yoe who you putt your money on the start?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
You know, Joe Flaco starting unless he gets injured in
training camp or something like that, or gets injured in
the preseason. I doubt he plays much of the preseason.
But we're gonna get We're gonna get a great sample
size of Chadoor season in the preseason, a great, a
great semple size. Now the job is Joe Flacco's to lose.
Understand the business. If you watch the game long enough,
you know how it's gonna play out. No disrespect to
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Kenny Pickett, no disrespect to Dylian Gabriel. You know, we
know Shador Sanders is going to be the one to
step in the helm and run the show once things
don't work out with Joe Flacco. But with Joe flaham
gonna give you. He gonna give you amazing six seven
game stretch. I'm talking about amazing six to seven game stretch.
And then all of a sudden, somethings gonna go wrong.
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And when it does go wrong, fans are gonna grow upset.
They're gonna go with Larry. They're gonna hear from the crowd,
the news, the media gets into it, and then it's
gonna be the Shadoor Sanders Show.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
All I know is that when I was a rook
kill job man, I couldn't wait to play because events
don't want to play in the preseason because they don't
want to run the risk and getting hurt. Well, the
only way I was gonna be able to show what
I can do is to get in the game.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Hey, that preseason people people buying for jobs. Boy, that's
a resume right there. You feeling out your resume. When
when you touch that feeling the preseason?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
What because it's like summer league in basketball. All those
guys in the summer league. Oh, show, they're only a
handful of jobs in preseason. All these guys, they are
only a handful of jobs. For the most part, they
know who's going to make that rosters except here or there,
you get a Shannon Sharp, or you get a Terrell Davis.
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You'll get a Rod Smith, You'll get a Wes Welker,
You'll get a John Randall. You'll get a few guys
that just like, we got to fire a place even
if he doesn't start one, we got to fire a
play keep him on the.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Roster, absolutely, especially if you're a special team's got too
you know sometime gym like a gym, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Man, Yeah, And so I just hope to get a lotot. Hey,
this is the opportunity. This is a job. That's the
job interview.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Absolutely, I'm putting on my Oh, Joe, I'm putting on
my best I'm putting on my best blues baby suit, collars, shirt,
I'm putting on my best and I'm going to work.
I'm gonna do great on this job. I know what.
I already know the questions he's gonna ask. I've been
studying the lifetime.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
They're gonna be all right, man, They're gonna be all right.
We've got we got Jerry. We got we got Jerry
and Juke and Joe Oul Damn.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Who on the other side Judy, joke on the other.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Side of Jerry Judy.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Don't start me to lie.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Hey, Chad, Who's who's the other receiver on the other
side of Jerry Judy? Man messing around? Man, Jerry Judy
going for eighteen hundred this year?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Man, boy, if he goes for eighteen hundred with the
with the quarterbacks there.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
On Yoe, Jerry Judy.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Because you gotta realize, ain't a whole lot of eighteen
hundreds ever.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Been Okay, okay, fifteen hundred, fifteen hundred, Jerry going for
fifteen hundred, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
It ain't been. Oh, Joe adn't been with about five
of them games, five of them eighteen hundred receiver yard.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I just threw that nothing back there, fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Man, that's a hey, you do realize that's an ass
to the yards. Yes, it is.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Listen, it ain't asked something of the way they throw
the ball to day now now fifty fifty day now
that meant something.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
That meant because the fifty hundred back of your day,
there wasn't a whole lot of hundred catches to go
along with that. Bro, you gotta realize. My brother went
back to back. He was the first to go back
to back with the hundred cat seasons. The record was
one hundred and six. He broke it with one hundred
and eight and then followed up the next year one twelve.
Now it's one forty nine.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's crazy, thought, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I think Herman Moore had the record that like one
twin and then Marvin broke it at one I remember,
and then the guy at the New Orleans he broke
it with one.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Hey, I remember, I remember Herman Moore and Johnny Morton. Man,
it was they were nice.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, yeah, Johnny More. They had a Brett Paarriman.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Wait, Bret Brett Paarirman was there with them.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
With herm oh I was talking about with her? Oh
you talked about what you talked about with who you
talking about?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
That was the three. It was Johnny Morton, Brett Parriman,
and Herman Moore.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
N uh with with Brett with Johnny Morton there, Johnny
might have been later.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Who was the other Who was the other receiver that
was there. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think
Brett Paarriman. You had Herman Moore, there was a third receiver.
What was that guy name?
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Oh? Nah, he was in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
It was somebody tall.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Oh, oh my goodness. I hate this. I could see
the guy named. I mean, it's just on the tip
of my tongue.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Uh yeah, I said, I said Johnny already.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Herman Moore, Brett Pearman, and Johnny Mooton yep led the
team with one hundred and twenty three. Herman Moore had
one hundred and twenty three reception of sixteen hundred eighty
six yards and four touchdowns. Perriman had a strong season.
He had one hundred and eight fourteen eighty eight, nine
touchdowns and Johnny Martin had forty four reception for five
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ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I best Scott Mitchell was a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, you were.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
We had Scott Mitchell in Cincinnati, Y had Scott mitchells.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I think Johnny ended up, did Johnny? I think Johnny
went to the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, he went to the Chiefs yeap. And when he retired,
remember you went in mm A.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah it didn't go too well though, And yeah that's
a different batality, oh, Joe.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
No.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
The Dames twenty twenty six recruiting class now includes Devin Fitzgerald.
He's the son of Larry Fitzgerald, Thomas Davis Junior, outside livebacker.
He's the son of Thomas Davis Senior, and Caden Finley.
He's the son of Jamichael Finley. Uh, Jerome Bettison's son
that Jerome Bennison second junior. He's there also. I don't
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know if he's in this. He might be there already.
Somebody else is in that? Who else is in the act?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Ryan Clarkson just left.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
He just left, But I know this class they coming
in next year. But I think buzz Son is already there.
I think somebody else Son is there too. Well, somebody
Obviously there are a lot of people's son there considering
they got a roster, because I.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Know somebody that hey, yeah, but got a bunch of there.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
But I'm talking about famous people that we know that
played a professional sport.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm trying to think, man, we're getting old o joke.
Not really, we get.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, we get.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Which with with age cod with.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Me yeah yeah, Like as as I get older and
as our age, I started to look better because I
was ugly. I was ugly growing up and just I'm like,
I want you just agreed.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Oh plastic co Burros his son.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
That o k ok ok ok ok okay okay.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
H James Flanagan. His dad played defensive tackle for the Bears.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Uh Bryce young b Y played the forty nine ers.
His son is there? I think, uh, Brian and Brian
ear like a son there? Or did he graduate.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Brian Urlacker Brian Urla like something with the Notre Dame
Yeah lacer yeah, and that's crazy. I remember I remember
we played the Bears one time. I ran like ass
over what I remember because like I won fifty four
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and I remember I stepped right on his chest. I
stepped between the five and the folk when I ran
over him. Yeah, man, I never forget that game. What
was that soldier field too?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Kennedy Erlacker mm hm, he transferred to USC.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Damn mayb. I'm sitting here. I'm sitting here reading the chat.
But these people are fun to a well, y'all funny boy, Well,
they just they're just laughing the comment the comments be funny.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I like, I like, yeah, well, I alway to clarify
because I like, Hey, somebody's son go to know to dame. Yes, Yahna,
there are a hundred players on the team. There are a
lot of people sons go to know. Today was I was?
I met somebody famous? Like laughs, Gerald place called Burro suns,
roam battles. That's what I meant to say, Oh oh joe.
Bleacher Report drops their top one hundred NBA players of
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all time list. Number one, Yes, Michael Jordan, number two,
Lebron James, number three, Kareem abdul Jabbar, number four, Magic
Johnson five, Bill Russell six, Shaquille O'Neal seven, Tim Duncan eight,
Larry Bird nine, Wilt Chamberlain ten, Stephen Curry eleven, Kobe
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Ryan Christ twelve, Dream Elijah one thirteen, Kevin Durant fourteen,
Oscar Robinson fifteen. Jered west Shock calls it criminal that
Kobe wasn't ranked in the top team. Bleacher Report explained
his reasoning, There's no question that the most of two
decades he was among the very best players. But among
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the best and the best are two different things. Meanwhile,
the players above him all had multip multi year peaks
in which they were clearly holding the belt. The long
exception maybe wilk who had Bill Russell to contend with, Yes, Joe.
People seem to be upset that Kobe was not in
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the top ten. This is what I always tell people.
If you put somebody, if somebody moves out, if somebody
if you're trying to move into the house, that means
somebody out of the house.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
But who move out? So but hey, this is this
is your area expertise.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Now look this is Look.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Now I have my I have Lebron one. But on
Mount Rushmore, they got it, they got it. They I
had Michael Jordan, I had Michael Jordan, Lebron, James Kareem
in Magic.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
That's why I had it.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Uh my top five out of put Tim Duncan, but
I said, but I'm saying, you look at Michael multiple
regular season MVPs, Lebron multiple regular season MVPs, Kareem multiple
regular season MVPs, Magic, multiple regular season MVPs, Bill, multiple
regular season MVPs.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
So everybody in the.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Top five, everybody in the top five has at least
three regular season v.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
You know what, based on everything you just said, if
you were to line up one hundred people, yes that
were basketball fans and had and had a passionate love
for the game, and you're asking that same question to
name they top five, you think they're gonna say the
same name just you.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Just no, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
So it's different, is it?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
No? Yes? Absolutely yes.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
If you see how they got all the big spread
out because people like big, you needed a guard to
get you the ball, so you came not like you
could bring the ball up. You look at Jordan Georgiana
can handle the ball, Lebron Magic clearly, Uh, Steph Curry,
people like hold on, y'all got Steph Curry over Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Hey, well that's what it looked like to me from
my Steph Curry's ten and Kobe's eleven.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
I don't understand dog A, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I think Look, I think from ninety six to about
oh two, Shaq was clearly the best player on the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, oh doing that during that dominant rain.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yes, And that's not to say that's not to say
Kobe wasn't a great player. Two things can be true.
You can be a great player, but not be the
greatest player on your own team. And I think they look,
i think they factored that in and I think that's
why they ranked Shocked so high because Shaq run. He's like, yeah,
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we want you know, we three pet it and Shaq
won all three finals MVP. Now, Kobe had some spectacular
series in there. You go back and look at that
series against Indy. You look at the series against Sacramento.
Cove has some runs.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Man, oh yeah, hey, Kobe was so special. Man, it's like, as.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
You're never gonna get it.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Look for the most part, I mean people gonna say Michael,
some of the younger generations wanna say Lebron.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I've always felt.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
The guy that was the least that was the least appreciated.
With Kareem, I mean, he has the most regular season MVPs.
He got six. There's a great chance. Ain't nobody catching
that great, great chance.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
That's not happening. Man, This this is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
I mean, obviously, in ten years.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
What you're gonna do with your kitchen, what's you gonna
do with ya? Is Shaye gonna be here somewhere?
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah, the list is gonna change, It's gonna change drastically.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
It is, it is, it has to.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
But for me, O Joe, I think it's eshton Stone.
I don't think anybody's going to unseat Mike. I think
I mean, they're a handful of us that got Lebron.
But for the most part, I mean, Yokis is still
currently playing, and Steph is still playing. KD is still playing.
I mean, think about it, You're still playing and you
want to, you know, the top all time and you
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still still currently playing. I'm trying to think, what what
does KD have to do to crack the top ten.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Canny Championship. Everybody in the top ten has a chip,
don't they.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Everybody in the top five have multiple regular season MVPs.
Michael has five, Lebron has four, Kareem has three, kres
Magic has three, done just one one regular season MVP,
two finals MVP Bill Russell has now when Russell was playing,
with the exception of that last year they didn't have finals.
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In the first year they had a finals MVP was
nineteen sixty nine and the finals MVP was the first
and only time that a guy won the award from
a losing team. Jerry West One, that's now, that's happened.
That's happened in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Two.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
In the Super Bowl, Chuck Howley won the Super Bowl
MVP squad first and only time it's ever been done.
They lost to the Coat sixteen thirteen. Will Look Will
got the first high score two three, I think the
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four high scoring averaging the season. Ain't nobody catching at fifty,
nobody's catching forty forty four. They're not happening. The rebounds.
Ain't nobody gonna get fifty five rebounds in the game,
So you certain stuff. They might as well just take
the rebounders. Who's gonna get twenty four thousand rebounds in
the career?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Ojoe A.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
That's unbelieved, that's almost unheard of, to the fact you
think it's not even real.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
The man every people he have his twenty five rebounds. No, yeah,
the next year you have his twenty seven. But this
is a this is a very very good list absolutely
because you got Yannis. I mean, Yannis is down there.
He has two regular season MVPs. You got Yo Kich.
He has three regular season MVPs and a finals MVP.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
That's a good ass list, though, man, and I head,
that's a good list. Tim Duncan is underrated. People don't
give Tim Duncan credit two regular season MVPs, three finals MVPs.
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The best power forward to ever play the game. Ain't no,
we ain't debating that. I mean there are certain positions
that you don't really debate, Like two guard. Everybody knows
when they come to two guards, they're like, okay, yes, Jordan, Kobe,
you go hard, you go d Wade Harden, whatever case
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may be. But one and two is Kobe, it's a
it's Mike and Coles, small forward, it is Lebron.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Then you go kd Bird power forwards, Tim Duncan. Now,
Jannis might have something to say about that when it's on,
but I don't know if he can catch it. Man,
it's a good ass lest O, Joe, it's a good list.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
I still think Kobe should be hired. I just don't
know who you pull out. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Lebron said he would have enjoyed playing with Michael Jordan,
had their careers in a twine, he said, don't mind
the game podcast, I think I got game. Would have
complimented each other. Well, Michael was a lad. I scored.
He was a score, A score, a score. He had
a score's mentality. Mj was an inspiration. Penny Hardaway was
an inspiration to me. Grant Hill was also an inspiration
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to me growing up, like that point forward Scottie Pippen,
like Penny, like Hill. Those are the kind of guys
that inspired me because I wanted to be that point forward. Yeah,
Michael score, that was his mentality. Score the basketball. That's
Kobe's mentality, score the basketball.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Kill mentality.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Look see, they believe the only way to win the
game was I got to score. I got to score fifth,
they got scored sixty. I gotta score whatever it needs
to take to win. Now, I'm gonna try to shut
you down the other end because they took their challenge.
They took the assignment. Oh I got you, I got
something for you. They took it un of himself. I'm
gonna score Ford it, but I'm gonna hold you to
you below your normal, which took a lot of energy.
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That had to be a chip top shape. And if
you look at the way those guys were built. You
look at Mike though he was wire, I mean, don't
look at him now because obviously he's not working out
like he wants to. He's live in a great life now,
yachts and private jet cigars and hey, hey, Mike, I
need to get you some of that shade by Laportier.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
But that big said Lebron.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Lebron games compliments anybody because he's the past first person.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
So if you want to score the basketball.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
He's gonna get it to Lebron is one of He's
a more athletic magic Johnson.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Lebron can play in any era. He can play with
he can play with player then let me let me
fix that. Yeah, with any player. He just fits regardless
of who it is, based on his style of play.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
If you're a big, oh yo. If you are big,
you love to play Lebron. If you shock, oh, he
gonna give it to you. If you are will, he
gonna give it to you. If you allied you on,
he's gonna give it to you kareem, think about what
a magic say, hey cat, what you want it?
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Left and right? Throw it to the right.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Now it's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A. Quentin made said, Oh Joe,
I hear a like stink meaner.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
I don't know what that means. I don't know. I
ain't never heard that before. That must be some some
some young young folk lingo.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, that's the past me a dad mail said, jailen
top five. Jailing has been to a super Bowl something
Josh Lamar and Herbert can't even snap and beat Pat.
Let me know how Josh Lamar Herbert stopped letting Pat
buss that you know what and then talk to me.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
I told you, I told you. It's a great conversation piece,
and everyone will use their own personal preference on where
to everybody. That's why I said, how was he not
even in the top five? But obviously when you look
at the stats, you look at the numbers or the
teams surrounding them. I think that's why they would do that.
That's that got to be the only reason that exactly thinking.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
About Yeah, Squeeze said, I'm about to put together of
fans with the jersey collection. I have Mike Evans and
put on my other wide receiver looking for a sharp
one on as well. My tight end is going to
be crazy. I'm gonna use the I would put my
(51:35):
my Miami Beach jersey up. I gonna put get me
a frame. I gotta frame that.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
I just listen. It's been I'm not sure how long
you've had those jerseys, but I would like to hang
the me I bought them, can't even buy them.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
I got him.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Tell me what, Tell me what the sight is.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
I'm not gonna be able to do that. Oo. Unfortunately,
hold on, but I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Why did you buy a home and away jersey of
my high school jersey?
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Piss you off? I do that with get it?
Speaker 3 (52:17):
See hey, when just when I was about to pay
your money?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Man, But I like now you made Oh you think
I'm about to see your merchandise before you see me
back here?
Speaker 3 (52:26):
You think I'm gonna send your money while you're still
hold on to my merchandise.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Ah, I tell you what I would do. This goes
out next week, send me twenty five bet now we
can do that. We can do that a jersey go out.
The follow a week, send me another.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
Okay, okay, we can do that.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Then another jersey goes out, I mean another fifteen hundred. Okay,
I got you, and then the fun code goes out
you see.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Me the last.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
Now that's that's the type of business I like right there, Okay.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
D Lanz Goodman seven thirty six says, oh Jo, I
can't let you talk about my Steelers like that. So
let's bet on both games. Make it loud on yourself,
Hey Lance, what you mean, mag How you gonna bet
my money that bad? How you gonna bet the band
(53:22):
my money?
Speaker 3 (53:24):
Oh man, that was a good one. That was a
good one there, that was a good one.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Kimper know what Junior said? O Yo, My question is
what are your top three favorite card games to play?
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Not not be talking, not be talking listen, Uno Spades
and talk Uno Spades and tunk and no particular order.
Don't invite me to your house, don't invite me to
any family function, don't invite me to no picnic if
you do not have spade Unos a tongue game going on.
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Now you add Domino's.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
I'm there too, te real for the majority, said God
bless nightcap family. Love y'all you guys, keep my spirits high.
My father recently passed away and I've been fighting for
his estate. I'm scared, feel alone, but asking y'all for
(54:23):
prayer if anyone can help or advice.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
Well, first of all, I thought some prayers. Sorry for
your your loss.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
My thoughts and prayers go out for you and your
family and loved ones and everybody that's impacted by this loss.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
That's what I always tell people. Man, have you your
affairs in order.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
I'm telling you, I don't care what anybody says. Money
changes people.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Money changes people. If somebody's supposed to get ten dollars
and thirty cent, have it end it again ten dollars
and thirty cent, because if they don't have it in there,
they're gonna try to get ten thousand, three hundred dollars
and thirty cents. Have whatever you have where is supposed
to go, how much of it's supposed to go, Because, Man,
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I'm telling you, I've seen it, brother, sister, sister, mom, mom.
Speaker 3 (55:22):
And it's always those, It is those closest to you
when money comes into play.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Man, an a, I'm gonna give you a little advice.
My family ain't in charge of my state.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
I want somebody that's independent because I don't. Don't you
think that you get more because X, Y and Z.
Nah it's it's it's laid out so elaborately. This, this, this, this,
hey homeboy, get this homeboy, get that Savannah State, get
(56:08):
this boom boom.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
I don't don't. I don't, I don't. I don't want.
Man look here, because man, he he'd have wanted me
to have this.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
I put it in right in what I wanted you
to have. What the hell you mean he'd have wanted me?
They know I did. I put it in there. I
was in my right mind when I said that. Oh y'all,
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Man, it's said.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
It happens all the time, does man.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
But we are we are praying for you. Bro, Stay strong,
stay prayed up, and hopefully everything works out.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Yeah uh may him.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Matthew thoughts on Jelly Road getting tag match with three
main venners and Randy Orton, Drew McIntire, Logan Paul at
the first ever Summer Slam.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Oh Jelly Roll, that like to say a yell to
roll with it at this thing.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
Je jelly roll from the wrestler man, that's dope.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
You want to do something? You want to do wrestle
with me?
Speaker 3 (57:16):
Now, if I'm gonna fight, I gotta fight for real.
I ain't I ain't doing ain't going in there playing around.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Mm hmm. I love wrestling.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
I wonder what I wonder where Debo at?
Speaker 2 (57:34):
Oh you want to wrestle? Hey?
Speaker 3 (57:38):
You you ever to look at Debo? Just notice you
got a punchable face.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Yeah, I ain't trying to.
Speaker 3 (57:46):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Okay, I showed him. He don't be good. I'm gonna
be good because, uh, I don't know how much. I
don't know. I shoulder. I can't find no other partner.
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I guess we just wrap Nightcap.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Now we're gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
We're gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be on here bandits though.
Yeah you know, I'm I'm he's gonna he gonna he
gonna get some licks in, but I'm gonna win.
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(01:00:18):
us tonight. I'm unc He's ojo were out
Nine of is Juwan Jennings wants a new deal or
a trade. He scheduled to make seven point five million
in that it marks the second straight summer. You gotta
understand on shoe, he was the third receiver. Remember they
had debo there, they had Brandon Aiyuk. They gave Deebo
to deal first. They got Brandon Ayyuk last year. So
(00:20):
you're the third receiver. You know, hey, not get them
get that many targets. Hey, that pretty good seven and
a half million, third receiver.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But he said, I ain't.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Huh. How about how about we pay him for all
those time Christian McCaffrey, all them times Christian McCaffrey made
some of those long runs. You know who sprung him open?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh yeah, Jenny, he won the best blocking.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Come on now, let's let's let's reward young bull for
all for for the dirty work that people don't get
to see.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I agree, it marks the second straight summer. The forty
nine ers are in a situation where receiver wants it
to be paid or traded. Last year it was Brandon A.
Jennings has approached the forty nine ers about the request,
but little progress has been made. If a new deal
is not reached by the time training camp starts next week,
Jennings plans to request a trade to a team willing
(01:11):
to pay him. You got to be at this time
you you ain't no team winning the trade, ain't no
team careful too.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You got to be careful doing that too. You know,
you got you.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Beat find yourself on the street and get in the
middlemist contract.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
No disrespect to him, but you got to be to
be able to pull that off. You know them type
of Shenigan Shenanigans. You got to be that. You got
to be that boy. Now I'm not saying I'm yeah,
very very good at what he does, very very good
at what he does. Yes, in that system, but you
have to understand, look at the landscape of the NFL,
look at the other teams and see where you would
(01:44):
fit in. We will still be able to contribute the
way that you did here in San France, because everybody
else is already set. If you think about it, everybody
has there, one, two and three's already. You know, we
just had a draft, So you have to you got
to be careful and saying you know what, Okay, you
know what, I don't want to be here no more.
I don't want to be a no more. Okay, but
where am I going?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Hey? But see that? Hey, you see what to do? Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
If I work at a fast food restaurant, I wait
to the busiest time the business time between what eleven
and one? Hey, y'all give me a raise. I'm up
out of here. I don't know who gonna cook the fries. Hey,
what how about y'all make it thirteen?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I need sixteen to the hour. I'm sorry, we can't
do that, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
But one thing about it on that run, on that
run they had that that that I'm gonna just call
it historic season because it was to me. When they
played the Chiefs, jamn was phenomenal. When Brandon I who
went out when Deebo was hurt. You know who was
making those plays and making.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Those catches, Jawan j Yeah, that was that was last.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I'm not bad. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You know who
is making them plays, Jawan Jennings.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, so he showed hee seventy seven catches.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The only thing is block he can catch and make
plays too.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, I like it, like but I just don't know,
Oh yo, with the money, they just paid party, the
money they got tied up in McCaffrey, the money they
got tried up and Kittle, the money they got tied
up in Bosa, the money they got tied up in
the Red Corner, the money they got tied up and
Big and Williams, Big Trent.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You could do you could do something.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Because you ain't paying me, no ship me, ain't paying me,
then send me in now the peanuts. No disrespect to
those that are watching the chat. I'm speaking in football
NFL terms. Peanuts right, come.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
On now, hey, so can you can you give us
one more year? Like that?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And they're gonna they're gonna play with you again. They're
gonna play with you again. Man, Nah, they won't.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
They won't play with him ojo. They just know that.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Okay, you know we're gonna be able to pay him
and uh and Plus the thing is they got Pier Pierce,
all right, and that the guy they got the AFLM Florida.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
He end up getting shot and he came back and
he played well.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Stretch, So I can see a full training camp under
this belt.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I like it, like it. I like Juwann Jennings two.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, the Steelers are favoriting only six of their seventeen
games this upcoming season. Week one minus three at the Jets,
Week two, Seattle Seahawks at home, minus one and a half,
Week six, the Browns minus six and a half, Week nine,
the Coats minus three and a half. Week fifteen the
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Dolphins minus two and a half. Week seventeen at the
Browns minus two and a half. Should Vegas be giving
Aaron Rodgers more respect?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I mean, Vegas is gonna base everything off that Aaron Rodgers.
We saw last year. Vegas going to base everything off
that Aaron Rodgers we saw last year. Now what I old, what.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I do know.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
What we're gonna get is we're gonna have games where
Aaron Rodgers looks like Aaron Rodgers of Bowl. Then we're
gonna have games you'll be like, man, what the hell
was that? That's just the nature of the business. As
you get older as quarterback, We're gonna have flashes of brilliants.
We're gonna have flashes of that's why he's a four
time MVP. But then you're gonna have some games where
(05:08):
it can be like, man, what the hell was that? Yes,
and he's not He's not in a position anymore. With
this type of quarterback that can elevate the players around him,
he's gonna need the players around him to elevate him
and make him job easy.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's happened to all of them, and I'm old enough
to remember them. Because the player, the quarterback used to
can elevate the players. They say, rising tide, you know,
raises all shifts. And that's what the really great quarterbacks
can do. They can elevate everybody around them. But as
they started to get older, they needed players around them
to lift them up. So because guess what, now, I
(05:46):
need a lot of boat. So, in other words, you
go back, go back and study history. Look at the guys.
Look at Peyton, and look at Tom, and look at
all those guys as they started to get older, guys
that have won multiple m vps, guys that have won
multiple Super Bowls. Look what it took. Look at Tom
and Tampa. Look at the defense he had. Look at
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Chris Godney, look at Mike Evans. Look at what they had.
Let's be real, look at look at Peyton. He got
the Denver, look with the hair. They had Decker, they
had Julius Thomas, they had the Marius Thomas just sold.
They had a Wes Welker, they had Stokely there for
a minute. No Seaman Reno in the backfield. So as
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as as the quarterbacks, quarterbacks got older, you know, Joe,
Joe a it takes it just takes more the guys
that you just can't do it. It doesn't have you know,
it is what it is. And and and I think
the thing is is that when you see that, you
understand it. And uh, they're looking at it like, yeah,
(06:56):
he he don't have the Eagles offense around it. He
doesn't have a Sakwan. He doesn't have you know. Look,
I like DK and I think, uh uh uh, what's
the other.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Austin Calvin Austin Calvin Calvin Austin the third?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
They got some quality receivers. I like Fried you.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Offensive line mostly if that I need the offensive line.
But your best defensive player is unhappy with his contract.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
T j Y.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Hey, you know they got Jayden Ramsey over there, Joey
Porter Jr.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Hold on, yeah, and are they going for it?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Hey? Where that defense gonna be? Nice boy?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Hey Jayleen Ramsey, So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Are you gonna put jay ram in safety? Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Shoot, that's a good question. No no, no, no, no no.
I think you're gonna have Ja damn what they gonna do.
So now now you've got to be thinking. You got
Joey Porter. He's staying on one side at so where
slave gonna go? Slate? Slave? Might you think?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I think? I think.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think, all things being equal, I think Jalen Ramsey
can can transition because I think he can transition to
safety better than those other two guys can.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And then when they go and then when they.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Go three wives, he can go out and Darris can
go to the nigga.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Okay, okay, I like that. I like that either way go.
When the Steelers play the Bengals, we know what's gonna happen.
They still gonna get this work. They're still gonna.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Get this work.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
You think absolutely and this I love I love Slay,
I love Joey Porter Jr.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Too.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I love Jaalen Ramsey. But when you play the Bengals,
and it's to all my Steeler fans that are watching
as much as I loved y'all because I show loved
you and you show love to me. But we're gonna
get We're gonna get in and you.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Know what, man, you're doing a lot of talking. You're
doing the kind of talking last year to beat.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
We beat the Steelers. Okay, I'm just letting you know
we're gonna beat them again, and we're gonna start the
season five and oh that's that's been our achilles here.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Have y'all ever started the season five?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah? Yeah, two thousand and five, we started oh my
bad four and oh.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
But this year, this is the year we started now
five and oh, so we don't have to rely on
no teams at the end of the season, sitting there
by the goddamn jumbo tron, hoping they need somebody else
in the.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Game, hoping and prayer, hoping and praying that won't be
us this year, and dominicant Sue officially announces his retirement.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
How will sue career be remembered?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Dominant? He was a dominant force. He was a dominant force.
He had he had some he had some hiccups. You know,
he has some hiccups on the field. You know, uh,
you know, we all have. You know, they tried to
try to coin him as a as a dirty player,
you know, I mean, he bought it on himself a
little bit, but boy.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, I ain't gonna say. Listen, he would the cleanest
player if you say.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
But one thing about it. Man, he could go man,
go man. He was good dude, man, real good dude.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I'm surprised, don't yo.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Watching him at the University of Nebraska, he was one
of the most dominant players. And I'm old enough to
remember Warren Sap when he came out. I'm old enough
to remember I remember Reggie White when he came out,
although he was at the University of Tennessee and he
ended up going to UH. He went to the USFL
first figure went to Memphis the show votes before he
came into the NFL. I thought in Dominican su I
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am shocked that he's not a he didn't win defensive
Player to year. If you watched him in college, he
was dominant, Beyond dominant. You watched him again in that
Texas game. I've never and I've seen some defensive players,
and like I said, I'm a year younger behind DT.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Rest your soul.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
He had what twenty seven sacks and eleven games, but
at the time, they didn't keep they didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Chart sacks as a stat in the NCAA.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I think Suggs has the record with twenty four, but
DT had a twenty seven sacks. Sue had that kind
of season he was as a defensive task that's crazy,
that's crazy. I remember calling my homeboy Bucket and said, Bucket, Man,
they got this dude out here name and Dominican Sue
from Nebraska. He said, man, what is theame? I said,
(11:21):
Dominican Sue. He cut hey and he like a he
like a double edged sword. He couldn't ask lefting right,
bad bad he And I think you're oh shoe, you're right.
I think because he was a dominant player, but I
(11:41):
think his plague got overshadowed by.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Some of his antiques.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And for me, you know, they're that that that fine line.
I think they're just like, man, if you meet him
off the field, I had a conversation with him, I
had him on the part. I had a conversation with him,
and he's just like so mild mannered boy.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
He put, hey, bro.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Who are you okay?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
He turned into different something different. Yes, yes, And I
guess that's what you know. Defensive players, that's what they
have to they have to be that way. But man,
he was a pro bowler. I think he went to
what three four Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I can't I came by how many. I think some
injuries might have hampered him towards the end of his career.
I think it's back.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, he ended up.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
You know, he had the Lions and then he went
and got that big contract from the Dolphins and then
it kind of from there. He got released and they
kind of bounced around. He went to the Rams, he
went to the Bucks, UH went to UH. I think
he finished his career in Philly.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Think about this. There was a time where Aaron Donald
and dominant Schoue was on the same defensive line. Man, Yeah,
and stopped playing. Stop playing.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And if you go back and look at Aaron donald
tape when he is a pit and you go back
and look at study of dogars and dominicance, Sue was
just as dominant, if not more dominant, than Aaron Donald
was in the university pit.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Go back and look at it and look at look
at the Dominakan Sue tape.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Hey like a man, a man amongst boys out there. Man, man, he's.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
A massive I mean for a d to do what
he does at his size, because he's not a big man,
I mean he be in tom of normal. Oh yo,
see you and I we look at like like he
not like football players like.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
And people won't understand that when you see him player
on the field and he's so dominant and if you
see him in person, you be like you was doing that.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I remember the first thing the first time I saw
it about Joe.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
They're like, man, that's and I'm looking at him like damn,
that's the one that'll be good.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, a strong as an ox hold on matter of fact,
just to give for people in the chat, and I'm
not trying to be funny. I'm not making no joke.
Aaron Donald's feet are just as quick as some of
the receivers in the NFL, just to give you a
bet context on how quick and fast in twenty years
(14:13):
not that big. But when it comes to technique, man
stop playing and then he's strong as hell.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh. I mean he could do it.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Everything.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
He could turn, he can turn speed, the power, he
could bend the edge, he could bull you, he could
cross your faith. I mean Aaron Donald was a total package.
I mean you look at a guy and what it
was o Joe is that people looked at him and
because of his stature they're like, nah boy, ten years
in the league, eight times First Team All Pro, three
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Defensive Player of.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
The Year, ten Pro Bowls, a Rookie of the Year
at a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I can make a case he could have been easily
been Super Bowl MVPO.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Joe Oh, especially especially ruining the ask play for us
to get a first down.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
If you go back. No, but what about the player
that he stopped them on third down? He stopped him,
He split the double team.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Oh could have goddamned guard and crashed down common sense.
That's football, one on one. Now you open up and
you see a d right there.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
The only comment I know is the rapper of the
out of Chicago. That's the only comment I know. That
other thing that you you talked about, and I know
the book by Thomas paying common sense. But other than that,
who I think when it's all, I think you have
to make a.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Case for him.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
He's wonted three or four best defensive players in history
all times. Yes, for sure, for sure, for sure because
his resume. You look at his resume, the eight first
team All Pro. There haven't been very many guys that's
been an eight time first team All Pro.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You gotta go back to LG. He might be the only.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
One for a defensive player. Hold on, not only a
defensive player. We talk about the interior linement. We're talk
about a D tackle D. He takes a double ts
most of the goddamn time.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yep, yep, yep. I think you gotta look at like
first team All Pros is looking at like LT. I
think LT got eight in his first ten years. He
got three Defensive Player of the Year with LT jumps
all the defensive players that he has a league MVP.
I don't think we'll ever see that again. So I
think they're safe. I think Alan Page.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And the LT.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think they're gonna go down as the only two
defensive players to win get him in PA unless somebody
gets Unless somebody get twenty five twenty six sacks on Joe.
I just don't see how with the quarterback, because think
about what you do, Ojoe. If we add another game,
what that means. A quarterback gets an opportunity to throw
more touchdowns, He gets an opportunity to throw for more yards.
So Peyton Manning threw for what fifty four hundred? What
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if a quarterback throw for fifty eight hundred? How you
gonna give somebody the MVP of a quarterback they throw
for fifty eight hundred yards and sixty touchdowns, even if
the defensive player has twenty five twenty six touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I don't know. We might be looking at another another
defensive player, even though he's a rookie coming out that
might put together some type of Lawrence Taylor type performance.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Are you talk about trave Oh you're talking about the
guy out of the Penn State.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Listen. He's yeah, you want to wear fifty six.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
So he got to work cut that boy.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
LT was also Defensive Rookie of the Year and Defensive
Player of the Year in his rookie season.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
People to see.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Joe like, like I said, I'm old enough to real
but people don't realize how.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Good l Tait.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I remember I was young, but my grandfather helped me
get a better understanding until I until I understood and
learned the game, and I was like okay and saw
the film. Oh, this is why Bill Belichick was always
raving about l. T Still to this day, I get it.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
He was he because he could do it all. He
made two positions famous. No other player in the history
of the game has made two positions famous. He made
the left tackle famous. He dated the rush, made the
rush linebacker famous.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I like it. I like it. I like it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I mean without l T, you don't have a you
don't have a DT. You don't have a von Miller,
you don't have a T. J.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Watt.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Those guys are DeMarcus where a Sean Merriman. That's DT,
that's A that's l T. And then the left tackle,
the left tackle, the Trick Williams, the guy that you
see now. He made that position famous because if you
couldn't block LT, you couldn't you could not win the
nfcas and you got to the playoffs. That's why Minnesota
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they went and Gary Zimmerman, and they went got herb Eatman,
and they got in the shade and they got Jakobe.
You couldn't block LT, you couldn't beat the giants.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Hell, wait a minute, who was on the other side.
Carl Banks?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Carl Banks, call Banks, and they had Harry Carson. They
had Harry Carson, They had Van pel Brand van Pelt
and then van Pelt left.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
They had pelp Remember.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You know they were coming to teams had Arison Waller's safety,
Mark Collins. They were physical. If you go back and
study course Belichick, he wont big physical. Look at his linebackers,
big and two gaps holding William McGinnis. Yes, yes, you
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go back and look look at Pepper, look at Carl Banks,
look at lt look at Harry Carson, look at his lineman.
They play three four defense, big Jim Burt crap, that's
what he wants. You go back and look at those
guys when the uh Seymour Vince Walfa, they're gonna play
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cover two now. And then he got away from that
once he got a he got what's the guy named
Reeves and he had Stefan Gilmore played a lot more run.
But coach Belichick base that he'll come to guys, keep
everything in front.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Of me and listen, and I'm taking it. I'm taking
away your number one option. You might as well take
the day off. Whoever the number one option is, take
the day off.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Uh oh choe.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
CBS Fantasy Football dropped their wide receivers tier rankings a
Tier one Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, C. D. Lamb, Tier two,
poking the cool elite neighbors Nico Collins and Rock Saint Brown.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Tiers three.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You had Brian Thomas, junr Aj Brown, Drake London, Tier four,
T Higgins, Lad McConkie, Tyreek Hill. Rashid writes Davonte Adams.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Hold on and what motherfucker? Oh, I'm sorry, God forgive
me because I just gotta say. I just gotta say
if I just got baptized two weeks ago, because the
last one was wearing off? And what world is Tyreek
a tier four in anything? In anything? Let's just start
there in anything. Now. What I don't like about the
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tier rankings is is not enough receivers in the Tier one.
How do they choose that it has to be at
least five, but there are at least five receivers.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I guess they're saying fantasy. I guess oh oh.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, okay, okay, now man now mane now man now man. Yeah,
that's different. So fantasy is hard for me to to
to kind of digest, you know, taking it serious, because
fantasy is week to week.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It is week to week.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
You know, you never know who's gonna go off. Now,
obviously you have your main you have your main bulls
that gonna get opportunities to make sure they get you
your numbers. But you just never know, man, fantasy is
a very very difficult, very very difficult.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It is.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It's fifty percent luck and fifty percent making sure you
have the right players.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
But I mean, if Molik Neighbors put up the numbers
he put up, I think they should put it be
a little better.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Even with Russ.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Although Russ is not what he was in Seattle, I
still think he's better than What.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
To think about it is you got Russell Wilson, right,
even if he's not what he once was in Seattle,
he has a player around him that is elite that
can raise his level of play. Wait a minute, you
meant I got another Uno out of here. That makes
my job easy. All they have to do is get
him the ball. Put the ball in the vicinity short, intermediate, long.
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Boy Milice Neighbor could do it all man, you can.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Who you got? Ohio?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Who?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What's wide receiving?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
You?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
L s U Or Ohio State and listen or Alabamas.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
At one point it was Alabama. Alabama was running the show.
Ohio State stole it for a little bit. But boy,
L s U L s you done took over. They
running with a They running with him now they got
like a four.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
One turn around. H Brian Thalas Jr.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Man they cutting the food man. And I don't think
people understand how good Brian Thomas Jr.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Is.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I think it's I think it's Cousin's in Jacksonville. But
if you if you're watching me, if you watching his
rookie year, matter of fact, I didn't say his name
enough time, just watch you'll see absolutely.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, like you said, o Jo, it's they're looking at like, uh,
scoring things like that. So yeah, okay, but I mean,
if Davonte gonna be tire fort, he should be up
high considered he got.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Up well, listen, you got Matthew Stafford. But also look
what they did the Cooper Cup because pooking the coop
was getting all the opportunities. So just with that, the
addition of Davonte Adams being there, how is Sean McVay
gonna use him? Are they gonna still put pooking the
coup in all the positions to get all the goddamn balls?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Well, the thing was, o Jo, if you go back
your study, look at Cooper Cup hadn't been the same
since he had that historic season. When you catch that
many balls over the course of a season, think about
how many pass he caught. He called for one forty
seven in the regular season. So okay, if you catch
one forty seven, that means they got to throw you
at least two hundred balls. Now think about how many
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calls in the postseason. He wasn't never the same.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Hey, can you imagine? Hey, can Ash hear me?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Ash?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
What's the most catches I've had in the season. I've
never hit over one hundred. I wonder what I wonder
what my numbers would look like somebody in the chat,
somebody in the chat that's really good at numbers. Right,
look at my best statistical career and how many catches
I had.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And you were an explosive. You weren't a catch guy.
You'd have five catches one hundred and thirty yards. That's
what you were. You weren't a guy that catched ten,
twelve thirty. That's not what you were. You are down
the field thread deep threats ain't gonna have that man.
You know, every once in a while you'll get a
guy that's a deep threat, especially in your era. Now
now it's different. You look at Tyreek Tyreek deep and
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having one fifteen.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It wasn't like that.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Hey, I wonder what it looked like. What if I
had one hundred and forty seven catches. I wonder what
my numbers would be for just say my best.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Season, whether to get you that many catches though you
you're not gonna be You're not gonna have no fourteen
or fifteen yards per catch average.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You do realize bumble screen stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I don't like them screens.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
You try to catch for yards.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Ninety seven is the most catches I ever had. But
I was I was a yardist monster. I don't know
if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, some people that's what I was on, Joe.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I could I had yards? I didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I wasn't a touchdown guy like you look at Gonzo,
you look at a Gates, you look at like Trap
or Gronk.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Down the field. I'm gonna get me. I'm gonna have
a one hundred. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get the yard.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Joe, Just think about one hundred and forty seven, man
I would have had. I would have had about three
thousand yards. Man I did. I'm not. I could be
honest with you that that was a weakness of mine,
all them bubble screens and all that like bubble screens
and nah, man, don't know, don't don't do that to me.
I need to be running forward. I don't want nobody
running at knee.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, I ain't trying to
do all that. That's a lot of pounders, that's a
lot of his But but oh Joe, they started throwing uh,
they started started throwing those screens like Peyton started hitting Marvin.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Them with those with the bubble screen. Jail screen. That
wasn't that wasn't that wasn't prominent like in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Not really, it wasn't. Guys tried to push the ball
down the field. Now you got to run and shoot,
you know. But that went away because your quarterback was
getting getting getting blasted. So they got out of the
running shoot because they would tell your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Ass up. My most I had eighty seven in nineteen
ninety four.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Damn and I missed. I missed a couple of games.
O Joe had spray knee. I'd have got a hunted
that year, got a hunted, would have got a hunded.
I had eighty one, yeah, eighty one. I had eighty
one and ninety three. I had eighty seven. I had
eighty in ninety six seventy two. What I haven't bought
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what happened in Baltimore. I think I had seventy something
in Baltimore. Damn Okay, y'all had sixty seventy seventy three.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Well, y'all didn't even y'all don't even really throw the ball.
Then y'all had Jamal Looke. No, you ain't had Jamal Lewis,
who the running back was.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, yeah, Jabal was there. I got there in two thousand.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Jamal big as man. Ain't no way you get through
a doorway with a big ass shoulder pass on.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
And you know when I was in Denvi, we ain't
throw the ball like that, not with TV back there.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah t back. Damn.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Vegas released their brown starting quarterback to start Week one.
Joe Flacco minus one O two Kenny Pickett plus two
hundred Shador Sanders plus eight seventy Dylan Gabriel plus five
hundred O yoe who you putt your money on the start?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
You know, Joe Flaco starting unless he gets injured in
training camp or something like that, or gets injured in
the preseason. I doubt he plays much of the preseason.
But we're gonna get We're gonna get a great sample
size of Chadoor season in the preseason, a great, a
great semple size. Now the job is Joe Flacco's to lose.
Understand the business. If you watch the game long enough,
you know how it's gonna play out. No disrespect to
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Kenny Pickett, no disrespect to Dylian Gabriel. You know, we
know Shador Sanders is going to be the one to
step in the helm and run the show once things
don't work out with Joe Flacco. But with Joe flaham
gonna give you. He gonna give you amazing six seven
game stretch. I'm talking about amazing six to seven game stretch.
And then all of a sudden, somethings gonna go wrong.
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And when it does go wrong, fans are gonna grow upset.
They're gonna go with Larry. They're gonna hear from the crowd,
the news, the media gets into it, and then it's
gonna be the Shadoor Sanders Show.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
All I know is that when I was a rook
kill job man, I couldn't wait to play because events
don't want to play in the preseason because they don't
want to run the risk and getting hurt. Well, the
only way I was gonna be able to show what
I can do is to get in the game.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Hey, that preseason people people buying for jobs. Boy, that's
a resume right there. You feeling out your resume. When
when you touch that feeling the preseason?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
What because it's like summer league in basketball. All those
guys in the summer league. Oh, show, they're only a
handful of jobs in preseason. All these guys, they are
only a handful of jobs. For the most part, they
know who's going to make that rosters except here or there,
you get a Shannon Sharp, or you get a Terrell Davis.
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You'll get a Rod Smith, You'll get a Wes Welker,
You'll get a John Randall. You'll get a few guys
that just like, we got to fire a place even
if he doesn't start one, we got to fire a
play keep him on the.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Roster, absolutely, especially if you're a special team's got too
you know sometime gym like a gym, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Man, Yeah, And so I just hope to get a lotot. Hey,
this is the opportunity. This is a job. That's the
job interview.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Absolutely, I'm putting on my Oh, Joe, I'm putting on
my best I'm putting on my best blues baby suit, collars, shirt,
I'm putting on my best and I'm going to work.
I'm gonna do great on this job. I know what.
I already know the questions he's gonna ask. I've been
studying the lifetime.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
They're gonna be all right, man, They're gonna be all right.
We've got we got Jerry. We got we got Jerry
and Juke and Joe Oul Damn.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Who on the other side Judy, joke on the other.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Side of Jerry Judy.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Don't start me to lie.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Hey, Chad, Who's who's the other receiver on the other
side of Jerry Judy? Man messing around? Man, Jerry Judy
going for eighteen hundred this year?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Man, boy, if he goes for eighteen hundred with the
with the quarterbacks there.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
On Yoe, Jerry Judy.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Because you gotta realize, ain't a whole lot of eighteen
hundreds ever.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Been Okay, okay, fifteen hundred, fifteen hundred, Jerry going for
fifteen hundred, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
It ain't been. Oh, Joe adn't been with about five
of them games, five of them eighteen hundred receiver yard.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I just threw that nothing back there, fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Man, that's a hey, you do realize that's an ass
to the yards. Yes, it is.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Listen, it ain't asked something of the way they throw
the ball to day now now fifty fifty day now
that meant something.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
That meant because the fifty hundred back of your day,
there wasn't a whole lot of hundred catches to go
along with that. Bro, you gotta realize. My brother went
back to back. He was the first to go back
to back with the hundred cat seasons. The record was
one hundred and six. He broke it with one hundred
and eight and then followed up the next year one twelve.
Now it's one forty nine.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's crazy, thought, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I think Herman Moore had the record that like one
twin and then Marvin broke it at one I remember,
and then the guy at the New Orleans he broke
it with one.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Hey, I remember, I remember Herman Moore and Johnny Morton. Man,
it was they were nice.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, yeah, Johnny More. They had a Brett Paarriman.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Wait, Bret Brett Paarirman was there with them.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
With herm oh I was talking about with her? Oh
you talked about what you talked about with who you
talking about?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
That was the three. It was Johnny Morton, Brett Parriman,
and Herman Moore.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
N uh with with Brett with Johnny Morton there, Johnny
might have been later.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Who was the other Who was the other receiver that
was there. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think
Brett Paarriman. You had Herman Moore, there was a third receiver.
What was that guy name?
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Oh? Nah, he was in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
It was somebody tall.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Oh, oh my goodness. I hate this. I could see
the guy named. I mean, it's just on the tip
of my tongue.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Uh yeah, I said, I said Johnny already.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Herman Moore, Brett Pearman, and Johnny Mooton yep led the
team with one hundred and twenty three. Herman Moore had
one hundred and twenty three reception of sixteen hundred eighty
six yards and four touchdowns. Perriman had a strong season.
He had one hundred and eight fourteen eighty eight, nine
touchdowns and Johnny Martin had forty four reception for five
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ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I best Scott Mitchell was a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, you were.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
We had Scott Mitchell in Cincinnati, Y had Scott mitchells.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I think Johnny ended up, did Johnny? I think Johnny
went to the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, he went to the Chiefs yeap. And when he retired,
remember you went in mm A.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah it didn't go too well though, And yeah that's
a different batality, oh, Joe.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
No.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
The Dames twenty twenty six recruiting class now includes Devin Fitzgerald.
He's the son of Larry Fitzgerald, Thomas Davis Junior, outside livebacker.
He's the son of Thomas Davis Senior, and Caden Finley.
He's the son of Jamichael Finley. Uh, Jerome Bettison's son
that Jerome Bennison second junior. He's there also. I don't
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know if he's in this. He might be there already.
Somebody else is in that? Who else is in the act?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Ryan Clarkson just left.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
He just left, But I know this class they coming
in next year. But I think buzz Son is already there.
I think somebody else Son is there too. Well, somebody
Obviously there are a lot of people's son there considering
they got a roster, because I.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Know somebody that hey, yeah, but got a bunch of there.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
But I'm talking about famous people that we know that
played a professional sport.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm trying to think, man, we're getting old o joke.
Not really, we get.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, we get.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Which with with age cod with.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Me yeah yeah, Like as as I get older and
as our age, I started to look better because I
was ugly. I was ugly growing up and just I'm like,
I want you just agreed.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Oh plastic co Burros his son.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
That o k ok ok ok ok okay okay.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
H James Flanagan. His dad played defensive tackle for the Bears.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Uh Bryce young b Y played the forty nine ers.
His son is there? I think, uh, Brian and Brian
ear like a son there? Or did he graduate.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Brian Urlacker Brian Urla like something with the Notre Dame
Yeah lacer yeah, and that's crazy. I remember I remember
we played the Bears one time. I ran like ass
over what I remember because like I won fifty four
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and I remember I stepped right on his chest. I
stepped between the five and the folk when I ran
over him. Yeah, man, I never forget that game. What
was that soldier field too?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Kennedy Erlacker mm hm, he transferred to USC.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Damn mayb. I'm sitting here. I'm sitting here reading the chat.
But these people are fun to a well, y'all funny boy, Well,
they just they're just laughing the comment the comments be funny.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I like, I like, yeah, well, I alway to clarify
because I like, Hey, somebody's son go to know to dame. Yes, Yahna,
there are a hundred players on the team. There are a
lot of people sons go to know. Today was I was?
I met somebody famous? Like laughs, Gerald place called Burro suns,
roam battles. That's what I meant to say, Oh oh joe.
Bleacher Report drops their top one hundred NBA players of
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all time list. Number one, Yes, Michael Jordan, number two,
Lebron James, number three, Kareem abdul Jabbar, number four, Magic
Johnson five, Bill Russell six, Shaquille O'Neal seven, Tim Duncan eight,
Larry Bird nine, Wilt Chamberlain ten, Stephen Curry eleven, Kobe
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Ryan Christ twelve, Dream Elijah one thirteen, Kevin Durant fourteen,
Oscar Robinson fifteen. Jered west Shock calls it criminal that
Kobe wasn't ranked in the top team. Bleacher Report explained
his reasoning, There's no question that the most of two
decades he was among the very best players. But among
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the best and the best are two different things. Meanwhile,
the players above him all had multip multi year peaks
in which they were clearly holding the belt. The long
exception maybe wilk who had Bill Russell to contend with, Yes, Joe.
People seem to be upset that Kobe was not in
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the top ten. This is what I always tell people.
If you put somebody, if somebody moves out, if somebody
if you're trying to move into the house, that means
somebody out of the house.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
But who move out? So but hey, this is this
is your area expertise.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Now look this is Look.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Now I have my I have Lebron one. But on
Mount Rushmore, they got it, they got it. They I
had Michael Jordan, I had Michael Jordan, Lebron, James Kareem
in Magic.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
That's why I had it.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Uh my top five out of put Tim Duncan, but
I said, but I'm saying, you look at Michael multiple
regular season MVPs, Lebron multiple regular season MVPs, Kareem multiple
regular season MVPs, Magic, multiple regular season MVPs, Bill, multiple
regular season MVPs.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
So everybody in the.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Top five, everybody in the top five has at least
three regular season v.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
You know what, based on everything you just said, if
you were to line up one hundred people, yes that
were basketball fans and had and had a passionate love
for the game, and you're asking that same question to
name they top five, you think they're gonna say the
same name just you.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Just no, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
So it's different, is it?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
No? Yes? Absolutely yes.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
If you see how they got all the big spread
out because people like big, you needed a guard to
get you the ball, so you came not like you
could bring the ball up. You look at Jordan Georgiana
can handle the ball, Lebron Magic clearly, Uh, Steph Curry,
people like hold on, y'all got Steph Curry over Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Hey, well that's what it looked like to me from
my Steph Curry's ten and Kobe's eleven.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
I don't understand dog A, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I think Look, I think from ninety six to about
oh two, Shaq was clearly the best player on the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, oh doing that during that dominant rain.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yes, And that's not to say that's not to say
Kobe wasn't a great player. Two things can be true.
You can be a great player, but not be the
greatest player on your own team. And I think they look,
i think they factored that in and I think that's
why they ranked Shocked so high because Shaq run. He's like, yeah,
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we want you know, we three pet it and Shaq
won all three finals MVP. Now, Kobe had some spectacular
series in there. You go back and look at that
series against Indy. You look at the series against Sacramento.
Cove has some runs.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Man, oh yeah, hey, Kobe was so special. Man, it's like, as.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
You're never gonna get it.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Look for the most part, I mean people gonna say Michael,
some of the younger generations wanna say Lebron.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I've always felt.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
The guy that was the least that was the least appreciated.
With Kareem, I mean, he has the most regular season MVPs.
He got six. There's a great chance. Ain't nobody catching
that great, great chance.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
That's not happening. Man, This this is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
I mean, obviously, in ten years.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
What you're gonna do with your kitchen, what's you gonna
do with ya? Is Shaye gonna be here somewhere?
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah, the list is gonna change, It's gonna change drastically.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
It is, it is, it has to.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
But for me, O Joe, I think it's eshton Stone.
I don't think anybody's going to unseat Mike. I think
I mean, they're a handful of us that got Lebron.
But for the most part, I mean, Yokis is still
currently playing, and Steph is still playing. KD is still playing.
I mean, think about it, You're still playing and you
want to, you know, the top all time and you
(44:22):
still still currently playing. I'm trying to think, what what
does KD have to do to crack the top ten.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Canny Championship. Everybody in the top ten has a chip,
don't they.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Everybody in the top five have multiple regular season MVPs.
Michael has five, Lebron has four, Kareem has three, kres
Magic has three, done just one one regular season MVP,
two finals MVP Bill Russell has now when Russell was playing,
with the exception of that last year they didn't have finals.
(44:59):
In the first year they had a finals MVP was
nineteen sixty nine and the finals MVP was the first
and only time that a guy won the award from
a losing team. Jerry West One, that's now, that's happened.
That's happened in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Two.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
In the Super Bowl, Chuck Howley won the Super Bowl
MVP squad first and only time it's ever been done.
They lost to the Coat sixteen thirteen. Will Look Will
got the first high score two three, I think the
(45:35):
four high scoring averaging the season. Ain't nobody catching at fifty,
nobody's catching forty forty four. They're not happening. The rebounds.
Ain't nobody gonna get fifty five rebounds in the game,
So you certain stuff. They might as well just take
the rebounders. Who's gonna get twenty four thousand rebounds in
the career?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Ojoe A.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
That's unbelieved, that's almost unheard of, to the fact you
think it's not even real.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
The man every people he have his twenty five rebounds. No, yeah,
the next year you have his twenty seven. But this
is a this is a very very good list absolutely
because you got Yannis. I mean, Yannis is down there.
He has two regular season MVPs. You got Yo Kich.
He has three regular season MVPs and a finals MVP.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
That's a good ass list, though, man, and I head,
that's a good list. Tim Duncan is underrated. People don't
give Tim Duncan credit two regular season MVPs, three finals MVPs.
(46:49):
The best power forward to ever play the game. Ain't no,
we ain't debating that. I mean there are certain positions
that you don't really debate, Like two guard. Everybody knows
when they come to two guards, they're like, okay, yes, Jordan, Kobe,
you go hard, you go d Wade Harden, whatever case
(47:10):
may be. But one and two is Kobe, it's a
it's Mike and Coles, small forward, it is Lebron.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Then you go kd Bird power forwards, Tim Duncan. Now,
Jannis might have something to say about that when it's on,
but I don't know if he can catch it. Man,
it's a good ass lest O, Joe, it's a good list.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
I still think Kobe should be hired. I just don't
know who you pull out. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Lebron said he would have enjoyed playing with Michael Jordan,
had their careers in a twine, he said, don't mind
the game podcast, I think I got game. Would have
complimented each other. Well, Michael was a lad. I scored.
He was a score, A score, a score. He had
a score's mentality. Mj was an inspiration. Penny Hardaway was
an inspiration to me. Grant Hill was also an inspiration
(48:14):
to me growing up, like that point forward Scottie Pippen,
like Penny, like Hill. Those are the kind of guys
that inspired me because I wanted to be that point forward. Yeah,
Michael score, that was his mentality. Score the basketball. That's
Kobe's mentality, score the basketball.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Kill mentality.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Look see, they believe the only way to win the
game was I got to score. I got to score fifth,
they got scored sixty. I gotta score whatever it needs
to take to win. Now, I'm gonna try to shut
you down the other end because they took their challenge.
They took the assignment. Oh I got you, I got
something for you. They took it un of himself. I'm
gonna score Ford it, but I'm gonna hold you to
you below your normal, which took a lot of energy.
(48:55):
That had to be a chip top shape. And if
you look at the way those guys were built. You
look at Mike though he was wire, I mean, don't
look at him now because obviously he's not working out
like he wants to. He's live in a great life now,
yachts and private jet cigars and hey, hey, Mike, I
need to get you some of that shade by Laportier.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
But that big said Lebron.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Lebron games compliments anybody because he's the past first person.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
So if you want to score the basketball.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
He's gonna get it to Lebron is one of He's
a more athletic magic Johnson.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Lebron can play in any era. He can play with
he can play with player then let me let me
fix that. Yeah, with any player. He just fits regardless
of who it is, based on his style of play.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
If you're a big, oh yo. If you are big,
you love to play Lebron. If you shock, oh, he
gonna give it to you. If you are will, he
gonna give it to you. If you allied you on,
he's gonna give it to you kareem, think about what
a magic say, hey cat, what you want it?
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Left and right? Throw it to the right.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Now it's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A. Quentin made said, Oh Joe,
I hear a like stink meaner.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
I don't know what that means. I don't know. I
ain't never heard that before. That must be some some
some young young folk lingo.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, that's the past me a dad mail said, jailen
top five. Jailing has been to a super Bowl something
Josh Lamar and Herbert can't even snap and beat Pat.
Let me know how Josh Lamar Herbert stopped letting Pat
buss that you know what and then talk to me.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
I told you, I told you. It's a great conversation piece,
and everyone will use their own personal preference on where
to everybody. That's why I said, how was he not
even in the top five? But obviously when you look
at the stats, you look at the numbers or the
teams surrounding them. I think that's why they would do that.
That's that got to be the only reason that exactly thinking.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
About Yeah, Squeeze said, I'm about to put together of
fans with the jersey collection. I have Mike Evans and
put on my other wide receiver looking for a sharp
one on as well. My tight end is going to
be crazy. I'm gonna use the I would put my
(51:35):
my Miami Beach jersey up. I gonna put get me
a frame. I gotta frame that.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
I just listen. It's been I'm not sure how long
you've had those jerseys, but I would like to hang
the me I bought them, can't even buy them.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
I got him.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Tell me what, Tell me what the sight is.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
I'm not gonna be able to do that. Oo. Unfortunately,
hold on, but I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Why did you buy a home and away jersey of
my high school jersey?
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Piss you off? I do that with get it?
Speaker 3 (52:17):
See hey, when just when I was about to pay
your money?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Man, But I like now you made Oh you think
I'm about to see your merchandise before you see me
back here?
Speaker 3 (52:26):
You think I'm gonna send your money while you're still
hold on to my merchandise.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Ah, I tell you what I would do. This goes
out next week, send me twenty five bet now we
can do that. We can do that a jersey go out.
The follow a week, send me another.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
Okay, okay, we can do that.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Then another jersey goes out, I mean another fifteen hundred. Okay,
I got you, and then the fun code goes out
you see.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Me the last.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
Now that's that's the type of business I like right there, Okay.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
D Lanz Goodman seven thirty six says, oh Jo, I
can't let you talk about my Steelers like that. So
let's bet on both games. Make it loud on yourself,
Hey Lance, what you mean, mag How you gonna bet
my money that bad? How you gonna bet the band
(53:22):
my money?
Speaker 3 (53:24):
Oh man, that was a good one. That was a
good one there, that was a good one.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Kimper know what Junior said? O Yo, My question is
what are your top three favorite card games to play?
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Not not be talking, not be talking listen, Uno Spades
and talk Uno Spades and tunk and no particular order.
Don't invite me to your house, don't invite me to
any family function, don't invite me to no picnic if
you do not have spade Unos a tongue game going on.
(54:00):
Now you add Domino's.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
I'm there too, te real for the majority, said God
bless nightcap family. Love y'all you guys, keep my spirits high.
My father recently passed away and I've been fighting for
his estate. I'm scared, feel alone, but asking y'all for
(54:23):
prayer if anyone can help or advice.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
Well, first of all, I thought some prayers. Sorry for
your your loss.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
My thoughts and prayers go out for you and your
family and loved ones and everybody that's impacted by this loss.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
That's what I always tell people. Man, have you your
affairs in order.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
I'm telling you, I don't care what anybody says. Money
changes people.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Money changes people. If somebody's supposed to get ten dollars
and thirty cent, have it end it again ten dollars
and thirty cent, because if they don't have it in there,
they're gonna try to get ten thousand, three hundred dollars
and thirty cents. Have whatever you have where is supposed
to go, how much of it's supposed to go, Because, Man,
(55:15):
I'm telling you, I've seen it, brother, sister, sister, mom, mom.
Speaker 3 (55:22):
And it's always those, It is those closest to you
when money comes into play.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Man, an a, I'm gonna give you a little advice.
My family ain't in charge of my state.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
I want somebody that's independent because I don't. Don't you
think that you get more because X, Y and Z.
Nah it's it's it's laid out so elaborately. This, this, this, this,
hey homeboy, get this homeboy, get that Savannah State, get
(56:08):
this boom boom.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
I don't don't. I don't, I don't. I don't want.
Man look here, because man, he he'd have wanted me
to have this.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
I put it in right in what I wanted you
to have. What the hell you mean he'd have wanted me?
They know I did. I put it in there. I
was in my right mind when I said that. Oh y'all,
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Man, it's said.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
It happens all the time, does man.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
But we are we are praying for you. Bro, Stay strong,
stay prayed up, and hopefully everything works out.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Yeah uh may him.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Matthew thoughts on Jelly Road getting tag match with three
main venners and Randy Orton, Drew McIntire, Logan Paul at
the first ever Summer Slam.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Oh Jelly Roll, that like to say a yell to
roll with it at this thing.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
Je jelly roll from the wrestler man, that's dope.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
You want to do something? You want to do wrestle
with me?
Speaker 3 (57:16):
Now, if I'm gonna fight, I gotta fight for real.
I ain't I ain't doing ain't going in there playing around.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Mm hmm. I love wrestling.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
I wonder what I wonder where Debo at?
Speaker 2 (57:34):
Oh you want to wrestle? Hey?
Speaker 3 (57:38):
You you ever to look at Debo? Just notice you
got a punchable face.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Yeah, I ain't trying to.
Speaker 3 (57:46):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Okay, I showed him. He don't be good. I'm gonna
be good because, uh, I don't know how much. I
don't know. I shoulder. I can't find no other partner.
(58:13):
I guess we just wrap Nightcap.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Now we're gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
We're gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be on here bandits though.
Yeah you know, I'm I'm he's gonna he gonna he
gonna get some licks in, but I'm gonna win.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Ye please make you thank you for joining for another
episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite shutter Shark, my partner
and teammate and co host Liberty City's own Bingle Ring
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We're off tomorrow night. We will see you. We'll be
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