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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh. Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Michael was active today on Twitter excuse me X, defending
his new teammate Trayvon Digg.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
First, a Cowboy beat.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Rider tweeted Trayvon Digg's grave per Football Focus, I don't
even look at Pro Football Focus. Twenty twenty was sixty
seven point two, then twenty one it was fifty nine
point six, twenty twenty two it was sixty six point nine,
and twenty three it was eighty point two.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Only two games though.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Twenty four it was fifty six point six and twenty
five was fifty six point one. Statistically, he's the worst
corner in the league right now, and the tape is
even worse. Maybe we owe those guys at Pro Football Focus.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
And apology Ojoe, yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Then Michael responded, I feel like, what the point they're
trying to publicly disrespect someone. He's not representing the Star anymore.
Just give the man of farewell, wish him the best.
I don't know why everything has to be negative. Every
time you break up happens. He's better, He's in a
better sit situation right now. Trust me, Bro gonna be
great again. Then he added, y'all want me to feel bad?

(01:06):
Jared Jones slandering my name to the Cowboys media and
national media for months. So do I think I can
react to comments if I want to respectfully?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh? Joe, Yeah, man, what'd you thinking?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I mean, listen, I mean, Michael at some point is
tired of it, obviously when things don't work out. Why
is it always the media once? Why not wish the
players farewell? Why do you always have to bring up
the negative about them, on on on on why he's
going and and and where where he's at right now?
And I don't understand It's it's it's tasteless to me,
it's classless to me.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Most most times when other players from other teams they
get traded, Uh, they send in their farewells, they say
thank you, appreciate your work. I know things didn't work
out the way they should, but hey, every divorce, when
it comes to the Cowboys and their players, it has
to be nasty. It doesn't have to be something you know,
you expect, you expected fans sometime. Fans, yes, but you know,

(02:02):
the media in itself, there's so many other things that's
going wrong in that organization. You don't have to do
the players like that. They did Michael like that. They
said they were better without them. Then they put up
these numbers. They found numbers in a way to justify
him not being there, why it was okay, and why
they were in a better position. And now with Trayvon Diggs,
they did the same thing.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, normally reporters don't do with no farewell. They might
call you if they have your number, they might that
might be something. Privately, I appreciate you. You know you're talking
to me. You was always respectful and professional with me
when I was here and you were here, So I
really really appreciate that. I got a lot of that
when I left them for the first time. Even when
I left Baltimore, you know, I had a lot of
guys reach out, and you know, we stayed in contact

(02:43):
for years. They would call and ask me certain and
things I could help them on. I would be more
than happy to help. But normally, publicly, reporters can't wish
you the best. That's not with their job, that's not
where their job is, right. But I think the thing
is is that people are like, well, Michael, this divorce
has happened five months ago. Yeah, I think that's the thing.

(03:07):
People like, Bro, you moved on with your life. You happy, Yeah,
I mean, but he.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
In sense, in essence, for context, got to understand he
was taken up for tray Von and that's all, and
just reminded him five months ago they did him the
exact same way, as much as he'd done for them,
obviously not being able to you know what the end
goal is. The end goal is always to win a championship.
He wasn't able to bring that, but they found ways
to justify him leaving and some of the things that

(03:35):
Jerry said, and obviously, you know we talked about it
in length. Whenn't happen, Oh, he wasn't coming back. There's
no way on that talks about a player like that
publicly and he's still in his team. And you think
I'm gonna represent you in the right way, I agree
with you.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Look like I said last night, I'm not here to
beat up Trayvon.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
He had his moments, and I just saw things that
were kind of like had me trending. You know, I
just keep my mouth shut because I hear a lot
of people saying, well, well we got people they said
it dim and me pictures of him in the club
or him being somewhere that ain't got nothing to do
with me. I'm gonna talk about this play on the field. Uh,
And that's why I'm gonna leave it at so. But
I just saw the I just saw the way it

(04:17):
was trending, and I was like, yeah, they're gonna have
They're gonna have a they're gonna have a break up
here before long. And and it happened, you know, the
as Brian Schottenhamashatti said yeah, because we told him he
couldn't go, and then the reports that he was at
a concert.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
I don't know. I don't know if he was at
a concert.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
But that's that's inconsequential because when you ask him could
you stay, they said no.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Once they said no, it doesn't matter whether you're.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
At a concert. And I guess, like you said, maybe
maybe he just wanted to leave. Maybe he wanted out.
I don't know. But in that situation, once, if your
boss said, you ask your boss, can I get off tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (04:59):
He says no, we really need you to come in,
O Joe.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
If you take off tomorrow, it don't matter what you
took off. Four right, they did not give you the
day off. So if they move in another direction, you
can't be mad. Yeah, I don't think he is mad.
I don't think he is mad either way. I think
obviously he wanted out, he knew it was coming. There
were issues obviously dating back to training camp and him
choosing to do his not training camp but offseason, him

(05:25):
choosing to do his rehabit elsewhere and not want to
be in Dallas.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Obviously Jerry Jones and the Cowboys organization taking five hundred
thousand from him because of his choice and wanting to
rehab away from the facility correct and obviously him saying
he's healthy, him being a healthy scratch him talking to
the media, the media saying is healthy, but Jerry is
saying he's not healthy. I mean, it was so much
turmoil going on there, and I think he just wanted

(05:51):
to expedite the process of him not being there. So
him choosing not to come back on that flight and
stay wherever he was and do what he wanted to do,
and he got what he wanted.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
I think the thing is o your also, And you
heard uh Aberflus when he was talking. He said some
things trans hard. He's like, look, when you have a
guy that can get there suddenly and we trade that guy.
He's talking like a guy that knows he's not coming back.
So I'm gonna be truthful. We traded Michael. What the

(06:24):
hell did you expect to happen with our secondary? You
need a guy that can win right now. He's the
one guy that can ring right now. He's the one
guy that if you don't double he will wreck your
deep hell wreck your offense. They don't have anybody like that.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
And so with that, with.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Trayvond not well, maybe he was health Maybe he's healthy now,
Maybe he wasn't healthy at the start of season.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I don't know, but what I do know is that
he was a guy that would take some risk. He's
a he's a he's a feast of famine guy.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
O Joe.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
He's gonna get you, but you're gonna get him. And
teams double moved him. That's how you That's how you
gotta get him. You know there are guys on your
We're starting off. We double moving you because we.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Got to back you up aggressive, because you're gonna jump something.
So we want you.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna use your aggressiveness against you.
And Diggs is he's not in Dallas anymore. I don't
and and people go like, well, you know that's what. No, No,
that's not the reason why. That's not the reason why

(07:33):
you You're not gonna I'm not gonna let y'all put
all this on Diggs. Has dig played his best football
in the last couple of years. No, but there have
been a lot of guys that hadn't played their best football.
Y'all think Deron Bland played his best football, y'all paid him.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
He he just got that bag bag.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Don't think he played his best. There are a lot
of guys that hadn't lived up to expectations. That's a
part of it. You got some the Cowboys got some
choices to make, y'all. Our problem is, y'all general manager
is terrible And don't nobody know that but him, And
he doesn't know everybody knows it except him. Yeah, but

(08:12):
keeping me in place, I like you, y'all give him
something to talk about it. So guess what is thirty
one years before y'all went to the NFC Championship Game,
o Jo Lamar Jackson said he's planning to play Sunday
against the Steelers of the regular season finale. Lamar told
the Report of one hundred percent, I'm going to be
out there. While he missed Saturday Saturday's victory over Green
Bay with the back intusion, he's been a field participant

(08:34):
in practice Wednesday and Thursday. Lamar added he's planning to
wear some protective padding for the back Sunday's game. Lamar
also dressed some of the skepticism about his ability to
pay through pain. I've never quit on my team before.
I've never quit on anything. To be honest with you,
I don't know where the noise came from, o Jo.
Is this a defining moment for Lamar's legacy?

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Defining moment? No, absolutely not. I wouldn't call it a
defining moment. Obviously, legacy it takes time to continue to build.
They're gonna be ups and downs when it comes to
creating that said legacy that we're talking about. For Lamar Jackson,
he has a very long way to go. He has
a very very long way to go. I don't like, obviously,
when it comes to some of the great players, especially
at the quarterback position, You're gonna have times like this

(09:20):
where they're rumblings, where you have certain people saying certain
things where you really don't understand what it is they
are saying and why it's coming about about you. You
think about Lamar Jackson, you don't say much.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Nope, he don't say much.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
You don't don't.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
You don't talk much.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
So it's hard to be able to at text some
of the things and say some things that are coming
out about him unless you're internally in the inside that building,
which is weird to me, which is why I said
what I said. When a certain Beat reporter, whether it's
a Beat reporter for them or whether it's the Beat
reporter in Baltimore in general.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Is Mike Preston. I think Mike Preston is a Beatle
columnist because I think Mike Mike Mike Preston was. He
was a I think he was a Beat reporter when
I was there. He might be a columnist now.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
But okay, yeah, I think if I'm not if I'm
not mistaken, I'm not sure. If the calling cow heard,
the cow heard, have some some things he might have
said earlier in the world, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I didn't hear. I don't.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, listen, I might. I might be wrong. I'm quote
me of some things that that that only someone internally
would know, and I could be wrong about that, but
but again, listen that this happens, that this happens, I
think Lamar is gonna be fine. Uh, the rumblings, you know,
like I said all the time, you know how this
business works. You know how this business works. Where there's smoke,

(10:41):
there's fire, a little bit always there's always a little
bit of truth, you know. So he gonna be fine,
whether it's in Baltimore or whether it's somewhere else, because
we know, you and I both know what another another
team is getting. You know what he can bring to
the table. You know, he's gonna bring his table and
Annie gonna bring some motherfucking legs with him.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I don't I don't think. I don't think he's leaving Baltimore.
Not no twenty nine year old quarterback, that's a two
time league MVP. You ain't getting rid of that. Look
and see what happens on Yoe. I don't know if
you've ever been nicked and had to leave a game,
but I've been nicked and left the game. But and
then the next week I was able to play. There

(11:24):
are certain things that happened that you're not ready to
you're not able to go back in, you're not able
to finish the game.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's okay, it's happened.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Lamar Jackson is not the first quarterback that's been knocked
out of a game and hasn't been able to go
back in.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
It happens. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Look, if you're gonna say that he hadn't played up
to the Lamar Jackson that we're used.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
To seeing this year, I will concede that. But for
you to question how hurt he is? Right?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Why what has he ever done to lead you or
make you want to question whether or not he's hurt.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Everybody have very levels.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Of a pain tolerance tolerance yes, and people like, well,
shoot Look, by the time that he shout it up it,
it's gonna take thirty minutes to forty minutes for the
medicine to get in there. The game's over. And he
might not be a guy that wants to shoot up.
Everybody ain't like me. I'm shooting up and I'm trying
to go next week or whatever. That's me, right, But

(12:21):
I don't. I don't look at somebody because I did
something and think they automatically.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Should do something. I don't.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I've never been like that, Right, I worry about me.
That's all I can worry about. That's all I'm That's
really all I'm responsible for, was me. Right, So I
don't like and I agree with Lamar. I don't know
what he's done to make you question whether or not
he's been hurt, like he ain't even really hurt with
a little old back.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Well, I've been hitting the back before it hurt.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh, just like Tyd Simpson, Oh Joe, you see Todd
Simpson when he cost that ball up. I got hitting
the back just like that in Kansas City, and I
cought that more for up to.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Right right right up.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Take it.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
And the funny thing about it, the people if that
that have never played sports or play any anything in
anything competitive, you would have to understand if you if
you get kneaded in the back in a certain area
and in a soft tissue area and you get a
goddamn back contusion until you felt that, until you felt
that goddamn blood harden up and it's stiffening up in
that certain area and you can't move and you can't ben,

(13:22):
you'll never understand. You'll never understand. So I mean, listen,
I had a contusion right on, right on my thigh.
Someone need me on my thigh. And it got to
the point where the contusion was so bad where I
couldn't been my leg.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't have been in my leg
that that blood settled.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Bingo. I mean, so I can understand that that back area,
Oh my goodness, I could just I could just imagine
what young Bull was going through.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Look my thing is, and I've been abundantly clear, y'all.
Be honest.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Has Lamar Jackson looked this year like he did last
year and the previous years?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yes? Or no?

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Be honest, no, because the numbers are not the same
as they were last year, saying, hold on, he were
forty one and five last year, thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Or take the mv even if you take the seasons,
he got hurt a couple I think twenty twenty one
he missed four games.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I missed five games each year, so that's ten games.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
But if you go back and look at the scenes
that he's won the MVPs and last year he could
have won, Chad, don't do that because I'm saying he
doesn't look the same this year as he has in
years past, Right, that's not hating. That is factual. How
many touchdowns has he passed for this year? How many

(14:43):
interceptions does he have?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
So when you look at it, if you just look
at it objectively, I get it. That's your guy. You
suppose to ride for your guy.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
But deep down and if you want to say Shanny,
you hate it, but deep down inside, deep down each side.
You know, man Lemaron played like he'd been, like he
liked like Lamar, like Action Jackson.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I know, right right, that's it. You can be honest.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
I was honest when I said it about Patrick Mahomes,
who the heck I called him my homeboy. State Farmed
didn't want to give me no credit. They called him Mahomie.
Ain't nobody ever call that man mahoone or my homeboy?
Before I said it, they call him Patrick Mahomes. I said,
last year and this year, Patrick Mahomes doesn't look the same.

(15:27):
And y'all look at it because he went to the
Super Bowl. You but still you gotta peel the layers away.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
It's okay, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
The numbers are the same.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I got no dog. I look, I want the Ravens
to win. Outside of the Broncos, the Ravens out root
for the Ravens, obviously, but at the end of the day,
I still gotta be honest. And when the Broncos don't
play well, Oh, y'all forget that though, but I get it.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know, you know what? You more hard on black quarterbacks?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I got into a very heated discussion with my partner
on television.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
What quarter what color was that quarterback on your Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:07):
He just so y'all missed that part of what me
and miss Skip got into it about Brady or when
I was on Romo.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Y'all missed that far hard? What are my cousins Baker Mayfield?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Did?

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Y'all forget about how we went for eight nine straight
weeks until the man got traded. Even when he got
to Carolina. I was still on Baker's neck. Where were
y'all doing?

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, A one thing about the one thing I can
say about your brother. It don't matter who it is, black, white, black, white, yellow,
green skittles, It don't matter what it is where you fell.
If you're playing bad, you're gonna say they playing bad.
Playing good, you're gonna say.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I'm gonna say that. I don't try and people see
a lot of times on your what people try to do.
If I say, man, oh your then play good?

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Will you? I'm trying to take away your Pro Bowls.
I'm trying to take away your awn.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Pro No, you did that. That's gonna be on a
resume I'm talking about right now. Yeah, that's all I'm
talking about right now. I stayed on Romo when Brady
didn't play good. I was on Brady when Baker didn't
play good. I was on a Baker when Peyton Manning
didn't play good. I was on Peyton when he was
losing no playoff games. But y'all don't remember that.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
They might they might be too young to remember that.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
They remember when I was on break hold on. They
ain't too young to remember what just happened to two
years ago. Okay, on Undisputed they remember, Oh yeah, they
choose not that. They just try to wear this and no, nah, bro,
when Mahomes didn't play, when Mahomes wasn't playing well this
year and last year, where did he end up?

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Two things can be true.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
You could end up at a destination and still not
be playing well.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
It happens all the time.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
But just no, I'm saying Lamar doesn't look the same
to me.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
When he came he wasn't playing well before, not like
the Lamar we used to see it.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
And then when he got nicked and came back, he
wasn't the same.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Even if mom said in the play leading up to
the playoffs, he should have run more. But when I
said it, I'm hating his mom told him.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, hey, do baby, do what you do best. Now
do what you do best.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
No gold post moving his His coordinator said, this is
the first time. If he practiced tomorrow, he would have
practiced Wednesday, Thursday, Friday since week ten.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Normally, Oh yoe, when you're healthy, you.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Practice RIGHTCT especially the quarterback because his is all about timing.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
It's all about timing, right.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Man, y'all need y'all, need y'all, y'all, y'ally'all gotta y'all,
gotta y'all gotta stop making everything. So I guess what
I don't know. I need to see. So I need
to see o Loski. No, I can't. He the WORNG
got to as because he gonna support every quarterback. But
I need somebody. I need I need some of these
white guys to do what we do when they criticize
the white quarterback. I wonder if the white people come in,

(19:20):
they chat and come on their DM and say, you
hate me.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
I just can I want to see. I gotta see.
Can I know that's what we do. Yeah, I can see.
I just want to see. Oh, y'all, I just want
to see for a day.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
God damn it.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
What happened?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Goddamn light went out? Man?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh I just thought you was dark skinned.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
No, man, that's not funny. Man, like it ain't nothing
going right with this ship today? My camera And you
ain't noticed my camera when just cleared not too long ago.
Huh you go the same No earlier you't you ain't
notice it.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah I did notice though, y'all.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Okay, Yeah, I gotta, I gotta. I got a new camera.
I got a Sony. I got a Sony A seven,
a new Sony A seven. Then I got the new
type C what do you call it? Type CEE. I
don't understand all this shit, but I had Dean, Dean,
a friend of mine. I'll be as Dean a matter
of fact, ask, thank you, ask because because you allow

(20:20):
me to meet Dean, he helped me change my whole
goddamn setup. So I'm for to be professional, Like, give
me by two more weeks. Hey, I'm forinna have my
own team. It's just gonna be two people though. Yeah,
I'm gonna have my own team. I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
That would be awesome. Look, this would this would be
huge for Lamar. They've been down, they haven't been in
first place in the division, and now all of a
sudden to come back and win the division. He missed
the game, and that's what your quarterback is supposed to do.
What what does the backup supposed to do? Keep your
float until the starter comes back. We saw Matt Jones
do it and do it for San Francisco. Yes, keep

(21:04):
him afloat until the starter gets back.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Boom.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Now you're in position. Okay, Lamar, winna take off. You
got a former NB, you got two former MVPs locked up.
Last game of the season, Winna take off.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
A good thing.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
And as matter of fact, all the rumblings and all
the noise, it's gonna quiet everybody, especially with the way
the Ravens started the season and to come out on
the back end. You know, listen, this is not a
this is not a sprint it's a marathon. It ain't
how you start, it's how you finish. So if they
finish with the win and make the playoffs and win

(21:44):
the AFC North, but guess who gonna get the credit?
The same one they've been talking about.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yes, So I honestly, look, he's gonna have to play
well because the defense they don't rush the quarterback, the
last guy that you want to have. If somebody as
accurate as Aaron Rodgers, then you can't get pressure on it.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Oh yeah, that's the problem.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
But you know what the good thing is for the
for the raven defense is even if you don't rush
Aaron Rodgers, who the hell for to get open to
catch the ball? Brother? Darnell Washington is out, he hurts, broken,
DK is out.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I mean with.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Calvin Austin probably gonna be out again. So you ain't
got nobody but game well five move uh oh h mvs.
Valdez scantleon Adam feeling.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Okay, So now where's my offensive production gonna come from?
Where my big play? Big play is gonna my chunk plays?
You mean to tell men have to drive the ball
all the way down the field eighty yards every time?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
It's gonna be perfect because who your play makers back
there on the back end. I don't know if you notice,
but you see how they be giving up yards or
that the raven secondary. Yeah, so hey, whoever, whoever number
two own you get in the ball.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Nick Nick Wiggins had a bad game, he had a Yeah,
he had a bad season. To to two games.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
He's had a bad season.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
It was that bad, as you know, I don't really,
I don't really as the Ravens fans what they think
a Ravens fans, if you all in the chat, Nate Wiggins,
it was that bad thatst year? Uh huh? What was it?
Was it? That badest year? Talk to me, talk to
me nice to now?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yes, uh, Marlon ain't ain't been the same.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah. Somebody said he.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Broke his hand because you see him like you got
you got cast up.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, the pattern on there, Yeah he cast up. You
know some some people. Yeah, the check. The chat is
kind of conflicted on most of them saying Marlon.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Oh yeah, Marlin's been badtist secondary has been bad. What
is the Ravens secondary rank in past coverage, But a
lot of that has contributed to the front.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, not being able to get any pressure, not be
able to get any pressure right, they say, They say, yeah, Nate, Nate,
Nate having it down year, but more than is worse.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
With the Ravens secondary, what are in past defense? Because
I don't think they got nobody with five sacks?

Speaker 3 (24:29):
I think I think the person leading in sacks he
might have six if I'm not mistaken. Ooh, the d
N I can't remember his last name. I think he
had six.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
They're twenty there, thirtieth in past defense, thirtieth. There's only
thirty two teams.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
God damn. Okay, now that now that's that's bad.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Guess there are two teams worse than past defense and
they both of them got seeds Coats Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Hey, I'm glad. I'm glad, my bangles. Ain't that you
see that? You see we give you?

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Moving on twenty seven, I couldn't let you get too happy.
You starting to celebrate too much that.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
I don't make it no better.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
You You're like, well, we we we we we ain't.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Thirtyth or worst? Oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
The Miami Dolphins that brought in the Hall of Fame
quarterback ESPN analyst Troy Aikman as a consultant to advise
organization on this general manager search. Is not a permanent role,
but he'll be an advisor throughout the process for the
Dolphins next general manager. Miami ownership wanted outside, respected perspective
from someone who had a strong relationship across the league.

(25:40):
Damn the team that he won three But O, Joe,
what what do you like this?

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I absolutely love it. I absolutely love it because this
is an organization that had no ego and has no
pride and understands in the direction in which they want
to go. Let's go to someone who's been there before.
Let's go to someone who's won three Super Bowls and
can help guide us in the right direction on who
we want to put in a position to make the
right calls for our organization going forward. And the most

(26:08):
important call is going to be a quarterback. So why
not get a super Bowl winning quarterback who's been there
and done that and knows the ins and outs of
what we need to do. Now, we're not asking them
for for a permanent position. Just give it. Just give
us some some some guys, some some guidance.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
You know, it was like you and you know this guy,
what do you think about that guy? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, It's like having having a GPS. You know exactly
where to go, right, You know exactly where to go
with the GPS, but the directions, the directions that it
provides you with, it allows you to get there much easier.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
So that's what Troy Aikman is for the goddamn mimed office,
and I like it.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
You need need some expertise about a general manager.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
I wish, I wish, I wish he would have put
his egg on Pride to side and allowed him to
do exactly what you know Troy is doing for the
for the goddamned Dophins over there, for the star.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Jerry Jay can't put it Frid to side. Jerry wont
all the credit.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
He can get the credit, he can get it.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
That's why, that's why, that's why he can't bring in
a strong coach. He's about he thought about hinding Sean Payton.
He was never gonna hire Sean Payton because Sean Payton
gonna have control. You not finished, Sean Payton gonna have control.
You're gonna have control over that fifty three and you're
gonna have some control in the draft and for it absolutely.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Lotely right right right, Joe.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
You gotta realize he was the coach at New Orleans
for upteenth years. Yes, where he had control. You mean
to tell me he can go into a situation where
and have no control. It just be a figurehead, just
be a face. Right, That's why he was gonna findire
Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson like, no, Bro, I'm not gonna
let you just put players on my team that I

(27:52):
don't want or need, right right right, He's never gonna
he was never gonna get somebody like that. Now, hopefully
Seany can change the set, you know, change the culture.
Think you have a good system, but they need defensive help.
Like I said, you look at Dak He's leading the
league in passing. He got two one thousand yard receivers,
a thousand yard Russia and they missed the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Hey, they ain't got no problems on offense. I mean
you look at the Cowboys offense, it's similar to that
of the Bengals offense. They ain't got no problems.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
On the offense.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Well, I think most people when it comes to us offensively,
they're talking about the officer line and not not being
able to keep Joe Burrow upright, But they got damn
Cowboys and Bengals, but defensively. But we need we need
to overhaul. Wait, we both we both need overhaul. And
I already said, I already said what I wanted. I said,
I told I told Jeffery Simmons. I told Jeffery Simmons.

(28:44):
Jeffrey Simmons made the Pro Bowl, right unk?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah? Yeah, So I'm.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Gonna See'm gonna see Jeffrey down there in Orlando, and
I'm gonna put a little bug in his yell. You know,
you could do two You could do two things. I'm
gonna tell you, Like I told Miles Garrett, you know,
there are consequences and repercussions. You feel me, you know.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
So in the off season, proposed in San Francisco, O Yo,
they moved it.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, okay, we're gonna be there anyway. So I mean,
what listen, I mean, you get.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Back the week before. Remember that's the week before.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Oh, Joe, Well we're gonna be there though, right o.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Joe, it's that Saturday before. We don't get there till
that Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Well, it looks like I'm gonna have to make me
an early trip.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Then you go right ahead, Yeah, and yeah, we get.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
There see I told you you're gonna be there. I
ain't going and I just told you we got to
be there.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
No, we got to be in San Francisco. We ain't
got to be there. Oh I shoot you mean yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Uh the a chat for those for those.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Your man, Look, I don't want to see that. We
the eraor you know, is different now. I mean in
the game, it's it's flag and it's you know, bulleting,
you know, dodgeball and that targets, not you know, catching.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
The Yeah, I understand, I understand, I understand.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
And plush you.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
You know, the thing was it used to be, oh Joe,
you wanted you wanted you wanted the Pro Bowl to
be after the Super Bowl because you wanted the flex
if you won. Yeah, you remember how everybody used to
come over there and everybody a man, congratulations, a man,
let me get your It was.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
It was a big thing.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
It's so before have to think about the half because
a lot of the guys that that was in the
Super Bowl that.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Were gonna be in the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Right, it is what it is, oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, you think Jared would ever do something like this?
Get some outside input.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Hey, you know how Jerry is. I've come to learn
more about Jerry now that I'm not a player, now
that I'm on the other side of the fence, and
now I'm able to see exactly how Jerry operates and
handles and runs that organization. Uh, it would never happen.
It would never happen. I never knew Jerry was like this,
obviously because I was playing the game and I didn't know.
So it's hard for me to see from the from

(31:23):
that from the field. From the field looking in, I
thought he was one of the greatest owners of all time.
Oh as far as marketing, he has marketing, and and
what is one thing that I was great at what
I was playing, marketing, So I saw him in a
completely different light. Yes, so now I'm on the other
side of the fence, and now I'm looking, well, God damn,

(31:45):
I understand why the brand, the product it sells itself
to start selling self. You've done a great job at
putting them in that light. But Jared, the other thing
that you can do as well, That that can that
can that can take that brand and that that marketing
availability to the next level. But he doesn't see fit because,
like you say, he wants the credit.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
I think the thing is, oh, Joe is like one
of your greatest the guy that help you win three
Super Bowls. You don't think enough of his auckman, his
football ackman to tap into that reserve. Another team does

(32:26):
another team?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well maybe maybe with him seeing another team do it,
maybe he comes to a census and says, you know what,
why didn't I you Troy in that same manner as well?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I guarantee you Troy be ten times better than Jerry added, Oh,
I bet you.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Now look, Jerry ain't ain't watching no tape.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Jerry has Will McClay and he's like, Okay, these are
the guys we got, these are the guys we walk
and he breaks it down like that. Jared not watching
no tape. So Jared get on there and talking about
he know football, he knows from the jocks to the
front everything. No, he doesn't. You get Jerry in front
of the things. Okay, Jerry, what coverage are they playing?

Speaker 3 (33:12):
You don't think Jerry can break it down like that? No,
after all these years, absolutely, not one not. He wouldn't
know eleven personnel, twelve personnel, thirteen personnel, twenty one personnel.
He wouldn't know any of that. Hey, that's that's funny.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Three by one. None of that. No, absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Now I'm sitting here trying to picture it too, Jerry
Jones being able to break down film the same way.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Michael, like Al Troy eight with.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
A or like a John Gruden. You know how John
Gruden breaks that thing down. Hey, I'm just trying to
pitch it that.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
It's about Jerry played college football, yes, seventy years ago.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Wait, hold on, Jerry played football for real?

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:08):
At Arkansas? There was He's on the national championship team.
Him and Jimmy's what position? Offensive line?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
He's so little they were little back then.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Oh he wasn't fat and lost weight.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
No, there was small back to live. Oh cho that
had that was like I think that was. Wasn't Arkansas
win the championship? Sixty four? Is that when the Arkansas
won the national championship? That might have been sixty four?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Okay, okay, because.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
The same age, my mom.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Hey, I'm confused. Uh, hold on, he went to college,
he played at Arkansas, So didn't he want a lot
or something to come into that kind of money to
be able to buy the.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Cowboy had some money. They had a little money.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Now, oh they was already good.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, I mean he made more.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
They didn't have it that, but he was okay, okay, yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
That's a nice little backstory. I don't know about the
backs or Okay, I.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Mean he was Look, he wasn't. He wasn't playing like
he is.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Now, well, how would you Jared probably weigh two hundred
pounds two ten right, Okay, but you gotta realize offensive
lineman wasn't big like they are not.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
With your Okay, I like it. I like it, Yeah,
I sure we I sure would like the backstory on
how you go from actually playing college football, being a
lineman and then owning.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Jared Richardson did that?

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Jared Richardson did that? You still the Carolina Panthers? He
played football? Dad, he played ball too, Yes, George hallis
also Oh Joe, But you gotta realize you could buy
a team. I mean, you bought a team for two
thousand dollars. But do you know how much two thousand
dollars was back then? Oh you spent twenty five thousand

(35:57):
dollars or fifty thousand dollars? Do you know how much
money that was back right. Damn you you look at
you looking at today's turn.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
It wasn't like that back then.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I think the Steelers, I think mister Rooney bought the
Steelers for like thirty three hundred bucks that he wanted
to that he wanted the kiss, that he wanted the tracks.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Oh come on, man, yes, pers the Steelers for.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Uh. Jared Richardson, he started out played football. He was
on the with Raymond, with Raymond Barry them. I think
they won the championship. Yeah, Steelers were bought. The franchise

(36:46):
feet was twenty five hundred dollars in nineteen thirty three.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
He won the money at the racetrack.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
See see what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
But do you know, oh Joe, you they were just
getting out of the Great Depression. Do you know how
much twenty five hundred dollars that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Of money back then?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
On what.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Twenty five hundred dollars Are you hearing what you're saying?

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yes? Think about with twenty five one hundred dollars a
lot of money when you were a kid.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Oh for us, for me, what I would have?

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Not hey, So you were for it, So go back
sixty to go back sixty more years.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
You know, it's hard for me to fathom and and
and to grasp the concept, maybe because I've never mind.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
You you look at it, see you looking at what
you've got now, and you're looking at it in today's terms,
But you got.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
To look back then, right, Okay, let me. I gotta
put myself. I got to put myself back there in
the in the sixties thirties, okay.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Joe Burn Jamar Change both came out and spoke today
about the Bengals disappointing season and what needs to change
to get this team back to the Super Bowl. Burro
Burrow said, we don't want to be in the spot
where we are right now, so something's got to change.
Whether it's players will continue to improve and get better
and play championship caliber football, or bring it in guys
or that will or whatever they may be, obviously, something

(38:12):
has to change. Chase, I think some of the things
are pretty obvious what we need to change. At the
end of the day, I can't really say or put
emphasis on what needs to be changed because it's not
my role, but it's pretty obvious defense and what some
of the issues are need to be changed. I love
Chase Chase saying the role that's way be to catch

(38:33):
pass and score touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
That's what I'm gonna do. But y'all know what it is.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, Hey, listen, we know what the elephant in the
room is. I mean chasing Jamar, don't I mean chasing Jamorrow.
Joe Joe and Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase don't need
to say. I'm not sure whether the meat is even
asking them, asking them questions. They know what the problem is.
We know what the problem is. Those that aren't Bengo
fans know what the problem is. We know what issue
need to be addressed in the off season, in the draft,

(38:58):
and I'm hoping, I'm hoping that we continue based on
some of the things that Joe Burrows said. He's put
everybody on alert. He's put everybody on alert, and we
need to do what's necessary to continue to keep our
team in an advantageous position to compete from the party
every single year. Continue to put pieces not around me

(39:22):
offensively because you've done you you you've done everything you
can for us offensively.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Well, you can prove offensive line. I won't be mad
if you improved the offensive line.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
You can do that you could maybe maybe add another
piece somewhere somewhere in the guard area. Maybe I would
I would like a nice centerpiece, well at the center position,
which is most of the times the week link on
on most teams. But defensively, we know we a we
need to attack. We need to attack in the off
season and in the draft. Defensively, I personally chat, I

(39:53):
want us to go get Jeffrey Simmons. I'm gonna talk
to Jeffer Simmons at the pro bow. Yeah, I want
to go get Jeffrey Simmons. Huh. Let's let's solidify somebody
up there on that front end, on that front end,
you know. And I'm not sure what's gonna happen. I'm
sure Trey Henderson is gone.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Unc yeah, oh yeah, he gone.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Okay, Trey Henderson is gone. I'm not sure we can
if we can get another premiere defensive end, you know.
But I know we're gonna get Jeffrey Simmons. I told Jeffrey,
we've we've had multiple conversations, and I don't I don't
want it to come to to to a riff. So
I need to make sure that happens.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
I'm doing my due diligence for the organization as well
on the outside.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Oh Joe, Yeah, I'm gonna give you some key figures
From nineteen thirty three, the average home price costs between
thirty nine hundred and fifty seven hundred dollars. The average
income was around thirteen hundred to seventeen hundred dollars. A
new car costs roughly six hundred to eight hundred dollars
in gasoline was ten to eighteen cents a gatherer.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Hey, unk, what would you do for us to be
back in those time? For them kind of price?

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I don't want to be back, brother. That was a
great depression. People were jumping out of killing hold on, yo,
don't want to be back there.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Okay, right here, right now, Okay, I I understanding. I'm
just saying, with the price point, with the price point, well,
oh yo, blacks.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Wasn't making money like that. Do you understand if the
average blacks weren't. They didn't include us.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
In the average.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
I understand what you're saying, but hey, you know everybody
complained about the goddamn prices today.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, that you were a sharecropper, Do you understand what
you was doing?

Speaker 1 (41:35):
You was making pennies.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Hey, if the average income was twelve to seventeen hundred,
there weren't they probably weren't a thousand black people in
the country making that kind of money.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yeah, and I'm hey, I know I don't want to
go back there.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Well, you know what, you know what I'd have been
doing back then?

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (41:54):
You know what I'd have been doing back then.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Hustling like a lot of other black people's doing.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, exactly, why would been at I would have been.
I would have been the best bootleg of the is
he hit me? Yea, I would have had I would
have had I would have had the best rum Like
what what's the two brothers from mom from Sinners?

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Uh, I know you talked about Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
I forgot the twins. Name is Sinners?

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Boy.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Hey, look I grew up.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I grew up in the in the late sixties, early seventies,
and I know how hard we had it.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I know what my grandmother, how my grandmother said.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
They doing, you know, five ten loads of laundry for
a quarter a day, please a quarter?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yes? Where do you think black people ate all those scraps?

Speaker 2 (42:42):
You wasn't getting steaked, You wouldn't have ham you had
to eat oxtail, you had to eat neckbone. That's what
pig feet, chitling's pig tails from. That's where that came from.
I don't know what people thought they were getting ribs,
beef ribs now hell nahar hey, i'na let you have that.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
You go back there, living, let me know what it's like.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
No, I don't listen.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
I'm there.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
I'm talking about the price. I ain't talking about what
you had to deal with. I'm just talking about the numbers.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
What damn how you gonna get so you think you're
gonna be able to go back there with the money
you got now and just good transport.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Your I ain't say I wanted to go back there.
I said living today. Could you imagine if the prices
were as low and affordable as they were back then?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
That's all. No, that that's impossible.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yeah, I know that, I know that. I'm just I'm
just saying, everybody complain about everything today. All the price
of eggs, old milk, so god damn high eggs. How
much eggs are I mean, yeah, of course I'm gonna say.
That's why I'm just saying, in general, what if it
was a little bit more affordable where people wasn't living.
God damn, paycheck to paycheck.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
People have been living paycheck to paycheck. What you mean
they they ain't just started.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah, I know, I know. I'm I'm just saying it'll
be a little, it be a little easier. That's what
you need. The right people in position, the power that
made the cause.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
But every time you take you get the right people,
they can be they get corrupted too, because how you
think they got the power.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Hey, I'm glad, I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I'm glad. You know.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
See, that's why I stay out of politics, because you
gotta be you gotta be crooked. You can't never be
straight to be in the politics.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Like I said, Look, I remember when I was a kid.
Minimum wave with three thirty was three thirty seven an hour.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
I was a kid. I was a kid forty years ago,
fifty years ago. God damn.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
So now yeah, but now, oh Joe, guess what, it's
seven five. That's you talked about fifty years ago. It's
only game, it's only going up, you know, it's double.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
What damn is? What kind of bull job is that? Now?

Speaker 2 (44:48):
You look at Ceo Coos and you look at everybody
else that's been come.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
It's going up exponentially.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
So and that that's what That's why people say they
live in paycheck to paycheck because a lot the people
that was here, Yeah, money has gone here.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
People that was here, money hadn't gone nowhere?

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Is it dirty crisis home?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
You ain't buying no home now for no fifty nine
hundred dollars. No, I've been pretty soon the average house
of a home going down to cost you a million dollars.
Who they gonna be able to afford an American dream? Pretty
soon they're gonna tell you to stop dreaming. Don't dream
no more because it ain't coming true? You know, yes,

(45:35):
But you know what, when I'm gonna have my sister
to send my thing because I remember I got a
when I was working, I got a W two form
from nineteen seventy seven.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Damn you you still got it? Yeah, well you keep
every goddamn thing? Man?

Speaker 1 (45:51):
How many how many nine year old you know got
a W two form? I was working? I've been working
all my life, That's all I know.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
What I got. I got, I got, I got a
betef one for you? How many how many two year
olds you know had cable and a Washington scene and
dry in they name.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
We didn't even have cable. You couldn't get cable in
the country back no matter fact.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Hello, I had bad credit before I could walk. How
about that shit?

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Hey, they got you, they got you? Yeah, I mean
the all the American dream Huh?

Speaker 1 (46:24):
What the question is? Who's dreaming it?

Speaker 2 (46:28):
In?

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Which America? Is it?

Speaker 3 (46:29):
That's a good one. Come on now, it ain't got
to be Sunday for you to preach.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Man, please bad, please.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Remember my grandmother, my grandfather left my grandma and did
like twenty five dollars. Well, you know, I remember last
year my sister, my grandma told my sister, this's the
last paper. Ain't the living She's like, yes, ma'am. Man
it took us, like, well, it took my grandma like

(47:00):
ten fifteen years to pay off twenty five hundred dollars.
Who I realize my grandpa wasn't making it about one
hundred and ninety seven dollars every two weeks.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, how there you gonna feed me, Spanky Libby.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
At the time, Maryell Gladys lived at the house for
probably about a year that she left with to Chicago
with my mom uh.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Shimmered any chain. How dare you gonna feed that.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Five dollars here, ten dollars there. That's why we worked
in the summer. Or we got a little side jobs
picking up pee cans, clipping onions. That's why we chipped in,
because we saw how hard it was for Granted to
try to man run out of gas. We used to
have a big propane tank. They don't have me anymore,
but they used to be have. We used to have
a big, a two hundred gallon propane tank. Yes, sir,
run out of gas, Oh joe, Well, Granted ain't got

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no money, You got no more pay. Me and my
brother have to go down there, chop down a tree,
cut it up, pull the stuff pudder or the heater
from the fireplace, put it down boom. You don't know
how many times me and my brother don't put baked
sweet potatoes and the hot ashes let them cook, cause
we got no gas.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Stow don't work. Oh joe, damn man.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Please, People can't tell me nothing about no hard time.
I ain't tell you what somebody told me. When somebody
was talking about I'm talking about the seventies and the eighties.
I lived it. Yeah, people talking about Oh, I loved it.
So when people talk about hard times, man, please what
we got here? Ed Rappaport reports that the Giants are

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expected to look at all options if they get their
hands on the top pick in April. Rappaport expect them
to evaluate all options, including looking at Fernando Mendoza, before
they make the decision on how they're going to proceed
if they have this pig. Dark said this week he
hadn't heard much from the report, but made it clear
he sees he's the future in New York. I'm going

(48:55):
to continue to play ball, play my ball. I know
I'm going to be here for a very long time.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
I mixed. I had to start winning more games and
turn this place around. Do my job.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
We have a bright future, and I'm standing on the
sideline watching a dual ball, watching da ball.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Scat's here today.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
When you think about this rookie class, we have a
really bright future, and we're going to do a really
big pivot and turn this thing around.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Oh Joe, yes, sir. For me, it wouldn't make a
whole lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
It wouldn't make any sense that it wouldn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
They got go ahead ooe, what you think I'm wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Make any sense at all. You got something special to
Jackson Dark. Now get we could pull the reins back
on him a little bit and get him to be
a little bit more cautious in the way he played
back position. You know, he gonna be all right, but
he brings something that Listen, I like mcdonal, I like mcdoze,
I like him, but he's not Jackson Dark. He's not
going to breed that kind of excitement and put busts

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in the seat like Jackson Darton. God damn scatter Bow
can do. Nope, he's not definitely, definitely not completely different individual.
If you listen to us an if you on he's
not ready for that New York media. That ain't That
ain't for him. That ain't for him. Jackson Daughter is
perfect for that situation. He's perfect for that atmosphere, that environment.

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Being in New York, that is the perfect place for him.
He's gonna be alright. We just just gotta we gotta
tone some things down in a game, and he gonna
be alright. Other than that, that that that that's all
but all that looking at all, they can they can
check all the options, and every other area except quarterback.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Oh Joe, The Buffalo Bills are asking fans to help
shovel snow at high Mark Stadium before this weekend's game.
Anyone eighteen years of older get twenty dollars per hour,
with food and hot beverage provided. Oh joe, I'd have
been there.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Wait how much twenty dollars an hour? What time the
stadium open?

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I'm gonna get that. Oh and food?

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Listen, I don't need no food. Give me, give me
a hot dog, give me, give me a hot dog,
some hot coco. I got you twenty hours. I'll be
there all day.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Oh yoe, you do realize glizzes of food? Right?

Speaker 3 (51:17):
My bad? That's a snap.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
They probably played They say they play you inlizzes.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
That's fine. Oh no, oh no, I'm gonna get my
twenty dollars hours.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
I'm gonna get my twenty dollars hour. And I want
to make sure I spend it. I want to spend it.
I want to be there all day too. Because you
want to go to the game. No, a young you
want to go out there nowhere and go shovel No, okay,
that that'll been some great content. Now that shovel snow

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mm hmmm, twenty dollars hour.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Oh ya, I don't have done that.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
See, I don't know if you really done manual labor done, man,
your labor for over a decade.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
You good on it? You cool on it?

Speaker 3 (51:57):
I did, I was. I did construction work on and.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I did landscaping. Did all that? Yeah, poor conferict concrete,
laid assphalt? Yep?

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Did at last, gaming uncle, I would cutting grass at
eight years old. That was part of my choice on Saturday. Yeah,
I had the lawnmower.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Well, I'm glad that.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
I'm glad to let you get to be eight before
you started doing it. Damn, what were talking about?

Speaker 3 (52:23):
My grandma had me out there in her rose bed.
I'm the one I had to I'm the one that
had to dig them holes in the garden. Yes, I know,
but I know about man your labor. I had to
put the guard gloves on that don't fit too big.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Damn you had gloves and everything. Damn. Yeah we had
a walker.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Yeah, man, I still got calluses on my hand from
laying bricks. What we talking about? Look at it?

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Or when you're using that hammer or that shovel and
you ain't got no gloves that first day them bad.
Your hand's hurt so bad, Like lord, I sure hope
I ain't got to go in the morning, all right,
I see you boys tomorrow. Damn yeah, I suldn't want
to tell Grant now, I don't want to go back.
Son going together? Is son going out there? That's a
good piece of job, EXU mean, it's a good piece

(53:14):
of job. Working twelve hours a day for ten fifteen dollars,
you think that's good? Hey, what else you're gonna make
that kind of money? Bag boy by grandpa? Hey, look
ya bad you could have worked fifteen dollars, ma'am, k
you five dollars, But that's that's that's good money.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
What I mean? Then you do I understand.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Granted you work, and it was a quarter for all
they load that loads the launder than you and Grandma
Lou and Anime had to do.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Granted that was fifty years or forty years ago.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
That's fifty years ago, right, Two dollars ain't a lot
of money, Granny, damn you you could my grandpa thought
any any denomination.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Of money with good money? Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
But but that's where you know it comes from. That's
where how I'm wired. I'm a provider. There wasn't a
whole lot, but yeah, you know, working in the summer.
We worked in the summer. We caught chickens once once
uh to tobacco was over, we still caught chickens during
the season. Come peacock, come peekann well pick ams was

(54:34):
like in this, like in this in the winter picking
up peekans.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
We did that.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Then with spring come around, it was time to clip onions.
Those by there your onions that y'all be eating or that. Yeah, yeah,
that's what was in the field. You got fifty cent
you got fiftyes in a hamper I give. I made
me a quick, you know, Joe, I made me a quick. Yeah,
ten fifteen dollars.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
And you know what you could do with fifteen dollars back.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Then, I know that could do.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Hold on when I was a kid. Hey, you know
you can do with fifteen dollars back when I was
a kid. Go to the Candy Lady House. You know
how much fifteen dollars can carry you at the Candy
Lady House.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Back in the eighties, No ten dollars, no five dollars,
because ten doves, gotta go to granny.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
You gotta help pay some bills.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
You get all that money and just keep it for yourself.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Huh oh that's what you thought.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Nah, I'm not okay.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
It was for me.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
For me, it was youre money. You know it was
youre money.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
I understand.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Once I wash my clothes, once I cut that grass,
once I get out there in that in that rose bed,
Once I picked the mangos that are that are that
are ripe off the that are ripe off the tree.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah, Once I swoop.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
From goddamn leaves and the leaves that was in the yard.
Once I wash some cars. Come on, now I know
I got I got me a good ten ten to
fifteen dollars coming.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Nope, they can't tell me nothing.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
I hit an ice cream truck coming. Hey, I'm ready
bad please.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
That was being our mother was talking when he was
out here. He said, man, he was looking at he
was walking around the house. He was in the backyard here.
That uh sent my sister in law picture my niece.
It's like, boy, we were sitting on the back just talking. Yeah,
I said, man said, when you sit back here, what
you think? I said, thank you? How fortunate and how

(56:21):
blessed we are. I remember you used to rain, you
have to go to the bathroom, be soaky wet.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Don't yo.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Soaky wet. Mosquitos, you in the South, Mosquitos are bad.
I remember all that. And I'm just sitting on nice
nice and I'm just sitting there just thinking, God, You've
been better than me. And I even deserve Yes, I
don't even know what I did to deserve this favor,
but I thank you.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
So man.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
I just wish. I wish my Granda because she was man.
I remember the first time I took my grandma to
my house and then left.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
She was pulling up because she rolled with me, turning
down the street like.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Like, boy, you living here. I said, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
So I turned in there and pull up the driveway,
hit the button the garage go up. Yeah, she walk
in there. My sister come up. She's like, live it.
This is too much house. I never thought I believe it.
I never thought I see I see this day. She
bragged about that everybody, all my uncles, all my aunts,

(57:41):
people that she went to church with.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
You see that boy house? Mm hmm. If she saw
this one, Lord have mercy you.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Know what that reminded me of too, unc while you're
sitting there, explain it. Remember an American gangster?

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Yeah with mom when she came.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Yes, and Mama's out of house. Yes, yes, remind me
of that. Yes, that's exactly how my grandma was. She's like, Oh,
she's like, man, she brags so much. Blive it that boy, guy,
I show hate to have to clean this, I said. Granted,
I don't clean it. That's why I pay somebody hey

(58:20):
to the now. I don't do nothing. But it was, man,
she was. He was just so proud and man, that's
why I'm so appreciative of everything. Oh, Joe, I know
how hard I work to get in the position that
I'm in. I don't take anything. I've never shot away
from hard work. That's that's what I know. It was like,
what you're gonna do? I don't know what I would do.

(58:41):
I don't know if I could just sit still and
not do nothing.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
You like me? You know, I got two hundred and
seventy four jobs. I can't. I can't sit I can't
sit still. I can't. I got to be. I got
to be doing something. I got to be. I got
to be doing something.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah, I don't know if I can just I don't
know if I can just sit still. I gotta do something.
Even if I don't do nothing, but one day a week,
I gotta do something. I gotta I gotta feel like,
I gotta get up to do something, because if I
don't feel like, I gotta get him do nothing, Like
what's my purpose?

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Right? I mean you gotta have a purpose.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
I want you to make sure you keep the same
energy too. When we win a lotto. We win a lotto,
I don't want to hear nothing. Body know you taking
a vacation. You ain't showing up because you just said
you got to be doing something. So I want when
we we hit for about maybe six eight hundred million,
make sure you show up on this show every Monday,
every Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Hey, I'm gonna have I'm gonna take some t CTO.
What's it's time off? PTO is paid time off. I'm
taking CTO choice time off. I'm leaving on the next plane.
I don't know when i'll be back again.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Right, that's as long as they got WI fied you good.
Wherever you're going, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Gonna be connected to something. Okay, I will be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
I'm gonna be. I'm'na be plugging. I promise you that.
On't joke. I promise you that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
All right, guys, we're gonna get your hair on the
Business Top five Final Sigma the evening.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
It's time for Q and A.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Oh but that was a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
That was a good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Philthy McNasty. When you guys watch film, what exactly are
you looking for? Why watch so much film? Uh not
want to be a football coach. I'm sure he could
be a life coach with all that invice Happy twenty
twenty six, y'all, what are we looking for?

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Well, it all depends because they break they break the
film down. Okay, you got first and ten, so they're
putting all the players down. So we go back flat
four games. Do you look at what the defense they
play on first and ten? Then you'll go back and
look at second, second, second in ten. Then you got
second and second in one to five. Then you got
third and long, so third and one to three, third

(01:01:12):
and three to five, third and long, So you breaking
it down. Okay, now they're gonna say it's okay, red zone.
I'm looking at what they play when do they play
this coverage. I'm looking at the guy. Okay, let's just
say I got the Sam Becker. I'm looking at I'm
gonna watch it for like ten to fifteen minutes. I'm
gonna watch his feet. Are they staggered? Can I get

(01:01:33):
a queue if he's blessing, if he's dropping in coverage,
or is he sitting heavy to play to try to
stop the run.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Make sure he don't get doesn't get reached.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
So you looking at the area of the field down
in distance, So you're looking at all that the coverages
that they play against, the formations. Then we got it
formation Okay, twenty one personnel they play this coverage. Eleven personnel,
which is one tight end, three wide receivers. They play
this personnel. Twelve personnel. They played this. So you're looking

(01:02:02):
at courages of what they play against, certain formations of
which what you see. So if we let's just say
we were playing the Bengals, we're gonna go back. The
Bengals played the Ravens. The Bengals played the Steelers. The
Bengals played the Cowboys. The Bengals played the Bears. Okay,

(01:02:23):
when they were in when they played the Bengals. They
in twelve personnel. They played this. When they played the Steelers,
they played that. When they played this, they played that.
So you gotta look at all that. I remember. I
memorized all the plays, all the plays, so all one
hundred and fifteen hundred and seventy five plays. I remember.
That's why when John tells the story, we were in
the AFC Championship game, they called three twenty four. Actually

(01:02:45):
they would we flip the formation. It was three twenty
five all pivot. And I was like, that's not in
the game playing. It's not in the I said, it's
not in the game plan. As now you notice everybody
notice like when I start getting animated, my boys get
it's high.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
It's not the game playing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
It's not the game playing. John said, it is. Now,
now go down there and get open. I was like, Bro,
you used to might get open. I could do a
whole bunch of stuff. So so that's mainly what we're
looking for. We're looking at, like certain formations. What kind
of defense are they going to play this formation? Where
are we are? Are we a first down, we're second down,

(01:03:23):
we're a third down? Where are we are we backed up?
We at midfield were in the red zone plus territory,
and you got to remember just like that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
So they call a play, they call a play.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
I'm going to I'm going to the Okay, they played this,
they played discoverage. This is primary what they played. But
they did give a couple of snaps of this, and
you gotta just just like that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Yep, you got to recall it right away. The funny
thing about it is when you think about the game
of football and the way you've just explained it, it's
the thinking man game. Yes, people, people in chat you know,
I know you're watching, you're watching from home, but not
understanding up here upstairs. You got to be moving fast.
You got to be thinking fast. You got to be
able to read and react because some sometimes the way
I'm just explained it, sometimes they'll throw your little wrinkle, yeah,

(01:04:04):
exactly which your Thinkga's coming based on down the distance
and what you see, they'd throw something else side down
and you got to be you got to be able
to read and react on the run and be with
a just based on what they're doing, all within standing
timing of the offense and the play that's called.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
The Steelers got me. The Steelers was really the team
that confused me because I didn't understand Steelers used to
be a heavy cover two team, but when they played Us,
they played cover six. Now I'm looking at the backside
safety and he's wide. But I'm looking at the front
side safety. He's still on the hash. You don't get wide.
So what they're doing they're playing quarters to my side.

(01:04:43):
They're playing half the field to the backside. And I'm
and and they kept asking me, said, why am I
not getting wide? Why am I not getting wide? I say,
because the safety is on the damn hash. He not splitting.
I'm not reading it. This cover too, it's cover six
and so, which means quarter, quarter a half. If you notice,
like when you hear quarters, m H. Corner have a

(01:05:07):
quarter of the field, Yes, one's path safety have a
quarter of the field. He has a quarter of the field.
He has a quarter of the field. Twenty five. We
just call it twenty five. They call it quarters. Now,
oh Joe. Cover five, which is two man under three two,
that's cover five. So cover two obviously, shell you know

(01:05:27):
split safetyes, cover one single high, cover three. You know
your rock and roll of safety. You come down. You
have the safety in the hole. But you play a
strong safety or strong coverage or weak coverage.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
It's just like, but.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
You gotta be thinking, not only have I got, I
gotta remember the coverage. Okay, this is the play, This
is the coverage that I'm expecting to get. But if
I don't get that, because in the West Coast system
you got, you got a adjustment.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Basically on everything. Oh yeah, always am I sat? Am I?

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Am I setting it up? Am I getting down the hole?
Am I keeping up the scene? Am I breaking it out?
And I got to just remember that? And I guess
just like that all the while, this dude he got,
he got hands on me. I've tried to get off him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
John.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I got to speed up because I know them guys
trying to knock John head off.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
It's just a lot going on, right Landy Ray, Happy
New Year.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Guys, thanks to my nightcap found for helping me get
through the toughest year. My question is, did y'all make
a New Year's resolution? You got New Year's resolution?

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Oh, Joe, I ain't need to make one. I ain't
never made one. I'm consistent and all that I do.
I don't have to make resolutions. I'm very consistent. I'm
very disciplined in certain areas, you know, But nah, I don't.
I don't make resolutions. I'm not sure why people do
as well, because you got to be real with yourself
I am, are you? Everybody easy? Everybody make a New

(01:06:56):
Year's resolution in January. By the time they get by
the time they get the goddamn fabruy, they didn't fell off.
They didn't fell off.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
I gotta be a couple I got because of red losion.
I don't want to say, yeah, what.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
What you got, what you're working with, what you think about.
I'll let you know, okay, okay, okay. If you don't
feel comfortable sharing it with it with the church, don't
worry about it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
You know, I might show up with a little well
you never know about.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
You never know whoa whoa whoa Wait, you never and
you you mumble that I could have swear. You say
I might show like with a little one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Yeah you never know what?

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
What kind of well? I mean when you say little one?
What you're talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
You do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
You talk about like well you need huggies? Okay, okay, okay,
I like let me go, hey, okay, okay, you sure
you Hey you do that, I'm gonna show you twins.
Mm hmmm, yeah, I like, I like. I like where
you're going. I like where you're going.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Nick, Marge, Oh, thank you for the words. Last night,
I caught the show live, very rare. Twenty twenty five
was rough. Year said tomorrow isn't promise. A very close
family member took her own life this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
I'm with you when you're right. Nick.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
I am so sorry to hear that, bro, I am
so sorry. I know that leaves a lot of questions
for the family, but sometimes the pain is they're trying
to get out of the pain, and this is that's
the only way that they know how. And I am
so sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
We're praying for your herea at nightcap be quiet, Yeah,
seventy year old dad, I'll be going to graduation. I'll
be hey, oh Joe, I'll be playing college graduation with
social security. I want my social security. All that money.
I don't put it in there talking about it. They
might run out. Don't run out before it my time
to get mine. Yeah, let my kids run out with

(01:08:54):
on my kid, let me get mine. They ain't putting
that much in yet. But Nick thought some prayers go
to you, brou I am so sorry to hear this
about your family, man, but I just want you to
know I thought some prayers go out to you and
your family, and you have our deepest sympathies and well wishes. Bryce,
listen to me now. After they called targeting on says

(01:09:17):
a strong safety, I knew it was over. That's the
weakest position, Johnny. What you say about Gunner's performance? Who
got targeted? Who got a targeting call?

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Number twenty right from Georgia?

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, okay, yeah
yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
You ain't think that was targeting?

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Yeah? You hit him in the head, Yeah it was,
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
I mean you can't just because you didn't use your helmet,
that don't mean you you can't hit him in the
head of the neck area, even with your shoulder.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Yeah, and it's tough, hey, uncle, Well, defensive defenders in
general are handicapped so crazy at the level and the
NFL level.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Mike Jones, Mikey Jones, Are we sure Trinidad Chambler's isn't
the best quarterback in the draft. No, we're not sure.
I mean, everybody's gonna go through their proper evaluations. We'll see.
I was very impressed. I've been very impressed with this
young man all year. You know, obviously we you know,
we talk about a lot about the SEC, we talk
about a lot of the Big ten. So we get
an opportunity to see him, and I got a opportunity

(01:10:36):
to see him against Georgia and some of these other teams,
and so I've been very impressed with him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
His ability to throw him the run.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
And be able to make NFL throws, that's what impressed
me tonight. He look, we know Georgia got guys on
that defense that's gonna be playing on Sunday. We have
the utmost respect for Kirby because we know he get
great talent and he coaches him up well. The throws
that Trinidad Chambler's was making tonight, outrunning I mean, hey,
outrunning some of those fast ass linebackers and d lineman

(01:11:05):
to get to the edge and drop dimes, reverse field,
come back drawing ropes. He's very, very, very impressive. I
think you know, NFL team is going to take another
look at him. It's like, okay, this guy can play
for US. Oh g underscored thanos twenty six do the
college football playoff bracket need to be tweaked with teams

(01:11:25):
having first round by being one and seven since last year.
I mean, it's just like, I mean, it happens. So
you just want him to start playing, right I think
the thing is, that's the whole reward for being a
top seed, is that you get an extra week of rest.
But I guess you know you're looking at it like
they of fayod Indiana one in the hell out of Alabama, Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
I don't know how you can tweak it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
I think the thing is unless you just have him
played right away, because you know, you hear some coaches
saying we want to be oh done by jan first.
Oh yeah, they got two more games to be played. Yeah,
I mean you got a semi finals and the finals. Yeah,
and uh, what the what the what are the semi finals?
Is that next week or of the night? Oh that's

(01:12:16):
the night, that's next week. I don't know why the
hell that's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Wait the eight.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
This week or next week? This week?

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Okay? Yeah, wow, okay? Keen and Man thirty six eighty
five man no matter who played or the level, and
oh Joe or to go to for late night salute

(01:12:50):
y'all a fan forever.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
King.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Appreciate that, Bro, appreciate support, appreciate your eyes, we appreciate
your ears, and we definitely appreciate your word of mouth
because it's because of people like yourself that we're able
to continue to grow and continue to be prosperous.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
So thank you very much. Man, the lot of scope one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Keep that same energy you have Obama and TTU what
you have for James Madison, tell and tell ocho milk
duod bean head to stop ducking FIFA gold Ducks Dukes. Oh,
here's James Madison fan had man. You know, y'a ain't
had no body to be in there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Hey, just like Alabama.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
They wasn't the game, won't yo, Remember that they didn't
win a game.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
I'm just saying, but still they had no business being there,
just like Alabama.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Alabama had ever readen to be there. The Florida man
uh for head coach at Bama.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
No chance. I don't want to live in Alabama?

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
What's wrong with that? What Alabama?

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
I grew up in the country. Ain't trying to live
in the country. No more.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
You didn't been in the city long enough.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
No, I ain't been in the city not long enough.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
And every time, every time a coaching gig come come up, Man,
is opportunity for you and you steady closing the door
that God opened.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Now he ain't opened it. He opens something else for me.
There you go, bad, I'm talking about the door. I'm
talking about another door. There you go. Man, Man, Man, y'all,
don't listen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
O yoke you and your other.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Score uh three O s U Georgia, Bama all gone
new day for D one football. Yeah, the blue Blood's
out of it. No Bama, no Georgia, Ohio State got
Old Miss got Indiana.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Yeh.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
College playoffs looking a little different this year.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Man, y'all, don't be following up without your man.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Hey, hey, hey, you know what I forgot? You know,
I forgot to say what? Yeah, I forgot to tell
the chat. Man, I've got to tell the chat. Happy
New Year. I remember twenty twenty five like it was yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Yeah, man, that was you. I was supposed to be
going to a wedding. I ain't going to the wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Hud who wedding? I know you're talking about mind because
I'm I'm I told you I'm getting married at twenty
twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
I know you're supposed get married twenty twenty five. I
had I had my white linen. I was gonna be
walking bare fut of the meat.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Yeah yeah, hey, but you know, hey, hey, you know
how life is?

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Life is? I know how do life? Life? Life and
life and life?

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Yeah, it do that, you do that. But this is
a good thing about life, you know, is if it
don't work out that time, God always puts something else
on your plate that you can eat off of.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
We know you like to eat.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Hey, well who you telling?

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
We know you? That's one thing about O Joe. Oh
Joe always clean his plate.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Hey, every time you know I got I used to
get knee pass for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
I believe it too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Bad the way the way you be eating off our plates.
I thought you have a grizzly Adams by now being
way out here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Yeah, hey, I can I keep it. I keep it
clean for a reason.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
What's the day? The day? The first? I got six
more days to be a month? What you think, oh Joe?

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Hey, but you clean a matter of fact, Hey, you
was on the shade room, right, yeah? Or the comments
bought the women lord that salt.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
And pepper boy shave room for.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
I mean it was just I think I told a
joke of something something. Hey. Boy, they were like, hey,
they were like, boy, we like that salt and pepper
now we we yeah we could, Hey, we could do
a little something with you now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Yeah. They like, what if I get rid of the
beer to just get to go tee?

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
No, I think they liked the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
The whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Yeah, they like they like the chin strap, they like
the chin strapping all bo.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Okay, hmm. Man, My grandma rolled over the grave. She said,
I shore don't like no old beers.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Up in two thousand and eight with the fastest usain
boat ran, Yeah that was special. I just I just
you know, he wasn't thinking at the time. I understand
the jubilation because he was so excited he was about
to win the gold medal.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
YadA, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
But man, if he had ran through that tape like
he did in Germany, Yeah, I still I still believe
the time that he ran and Beijing would have been
faster than the time that he ran in in in Germany.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
That's just me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
But hey, ms Patries, Oregon wins a big game and
no love over here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
A great job my ducks. No, they look.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
They played, they can't play like they played today and
be old Miss. I mean you look at a forty
seven carried sixty four yards that didn't run the ball
extremely well, it's gonna be interesting. Old Miss can put
points on the board. That defense came to play today,
did a great job of neutralizing Texas Tech offense. But

(01:18:28):
this performance today won't get it done next week. Absolutely not,
absolutely not. But I'm gonna be glued. I would be
glued to the television. I can't wait to watch. Yeah,
the Shawn Underscore show. Oh show, what's what's one stat

(01:18:48):
fans overrate and one stat they ignore that actually predicts winning.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Oh, I mean turnovers. Honestly, Young that's the greatest predictor,
that's the greatest, greatest.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Especially once they come playoff time.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Yeah, because the momentum flip so quick, very quick, more
so probably more so, uh uh and in the postseason
or in football because home field, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
So you mess right and turn the ball over a
couple of times and you on the road. It's a man.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
The momentum flip so quick. I mean, think about it,
Old Miss had had the momentum look like it, and
then all of a sudden, Georgia got a.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
P I go down three and out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Right make down again, just that fast, and just that fast.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
You don't even need help. In general, the momentum of
football games, matter of fact, the momentum to any sport,
the momentum is gonna shift, the pending is gonna shift
at some point, and you don't need to help that
momentum by having a turnover or making mistakes. So especially
come postseason. Man, you pay double for that stuff. Man,
you pay double for it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Bucket Gedder Jr.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Still don't understand why Georgia blessed That last play killed
my parlay Cads. They wanted to make a decision quick.
Then you don't want him. You don't want to. I
want to make him to make a decision, because think
about it. I understand you blitzed, but he still got
to make a perfect throw and the guy gotta catch it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
The last thing I wanted to do. I want to
make him make a decision right now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Oh Joe, I can't let I can't let that guy
run around and have all day and buy time. Nah,
you better make a decision right now. Uh, Shook for
Rookie of the Year. Oh your happy New Year. If
Shook beats the fel Cards and ends the season where
a five game winning streak, does he win Rookie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Of the Year.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
I think he got to rad chaps. I really think
it's out of him and McMillan and Carroll. Yeah, and
they generally leans towards the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
But he's played well.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Now everybody's talking about him and the numbers that he
put up against the Titans, but they kill should do
her for the same No, should do it through for
more yards? And everybody saying it ain't nobody but the Titans.
I forgot y'all said that, right, Yeah, No, don't forget anything.

(01:21:29):
This is the same team the Titans. Tylas shook through
for three hundred and thirty yards and they won. Should
do it through for three sixty four? And then all
of a sudden, this quarterback, his coach wanted to run
the wildcat. But yes, he's impressed me. I got no problem.

(01:21:51):
Maybe I was wrong about him. Let's see this thing
play out. But he's played well enough to get another
to come in as the incumbent quarterback. Yes, and see
if he can lead the team. I know Kellen Moore
has the utmost faith in him. Keller Moore is dial
up some great plays and he's run the offense great.
Go get your running back and get you some offensive

(01:22:11):
line help. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want
to thank each and every one of you for joining us.
We really really appreciate that very very very interesting game.
University of Georgia falls to the Old Miss Rebels by
the score of thirty nine to thirty four.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
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Ring of Fame, Honoye, a former Pro bowler and an
All Pro. He's Chad O Chosenko Johnson, and we want
to thank our college football guy joining us tonight, Johnny Manziell.
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(01:23:57):
Rebels moves on to the semifinals thanks to a thirty
thirty four victory over the University of Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Alabama was routed.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
By Indiana and the Rose Bowl thirty eight to three,
Heisman Trophy winning through three touchdowns. Fernando Mendoza Indiana takes
on Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl as they swarmed Texas
Tech by the score of twenty three to nothing. So
you get Old miss and the University of Miami in

(01:24:29):
the AFT Bowl, and you get Oregon in Indiana in
the Peach Bowl with the winner.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Where's where's the championship game? Here?

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Gonna be here in Atlanta, Old Miami. Okay, So that's it.
Thank you guys for joining us. I'm un he's oyo.
We'll see you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
To my rod oh tomorrow Friday. We are no, we'll
see you Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
Sorry, sorry, I thought today.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
I thought today was I ball up. I'm sorry. You
gotta break from Ojo and I. We'll see you Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
While we're uh. Peace,
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