Nightcap - Hour 2: Unc & Bun B react to Pusha T’s new track and rap beef with Travis Scott! - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. The NFL version of this topic, Jalen Hurts
was concerned for his teammates after signing the biggest deal

(00:23):
in NFL history. Don't screw the team, make sure my
team is around, he told his agent, How am I
going to keep my team around? How are these guys
still going to be paid? Nicole Lynn is his agent.
I think he's wanted a handful of guy that have
a woman as an agent. She's a VP. I think
she's a really high ranking official at Clutch Sports, the

(00:44):
Rich Paul agency that he started. Very fortunate enough to
meet her and some girlfriends at the fight, so I
had a great conversation with her. But you see, he's like, yeah,
the highest paid, What good is the highest paid if
we can't win? Because I'm trying to win championships and
I know the team that I have around me because

(01:04):
they're gonna want paydays two. So I'm willing to take
a little less and be able to keep X, Y
and Z and PQ around as opposed to take it
all this money and only be able to keep one
or two of those guys around. You see, if offensive
line still intact, they were able to do something with Saquan.
They now they they resigned Brown, they resigned Uh uh

(01:26):
DeVante Smith. He understands he's not bigger than the program.
You know what I'm saying. He understands that, yes, we're successful.
And I may be the person that everybody focuses on
because of the position I play, but anybody that understands
this game, no, I get nowhere if we don't keep
this old line intact correct, and the real money is

(01:49):
in repetition, being competitive, repetitiously right, being a contender year
after the year after year after year after year. And
the only way to do that is to keep people.
And you know, we've seen it, We've seen it done.
We said, you know in the Patriots that was part
of the structure. Tom was like, no, you don't give
me all that money. I need this man, I need
that guy, and I need those people here. You know

(02:10):
what I'm saying. Because Jalen understands as the faith of
the organization, as the quarterback of the organization.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I can get that money.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
We can go get that money through sponsorship deals and
sneaking deals and all this stuff we can get. We
not the face of a Super Bowl award winning team
is not hurting for money. Nope, he's not hurting for
opportunities for money. He's seen what that check was before
that chip for everything, and what that check is now

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post chip.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
So if we want more money, we got to win
more chip.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
If I want to have more money and be a
bigger force in this game, I've got to win more championships.
And in order to do that, there are certain pieces
that have to remain. And if I got to take
twenty million dollars off here to get fifty added later
down there, let's run with it. I'm with that all day.

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That's the only way the NFL is is great at that,
because the NFL knows that, you know what, to generate
new revenue, we've got to have new eyeballs. So we
got to go. We got to find like, hey, I've
got to be a part of this. So Jalen says,
you know what, Hey, I win another championship. People gonna
say advertised, The sponsors gonna say, man, I need a
piece of him. I need him to represent my product,

(03:26):
I need him to represent my brand. I need to
attach my brand to Jalen Hurts absolutely understands it and
shout out to that brother too. I believe he got
married this weekend. He did. Congratulations, I would have I
would have cated them burgers. I'm right here. I could
have catd because I think he from Houston in Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
absolutely proud of that brother. Found found one early when

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he didn't have a whole lot. Now he's got a lot.
She's locked step with him. I love that. Congratulations hurts.
Darren Waller says he decided to retire after the Giants
made him play full against the Bills. I sit down
on the sideline after drive where we rented like three times,
and I'm like, what the bleep am I doing with
my life? I'm out here playing fullback. I don't even

(04:10):
want to do this issue anymore? Was that because he
was forced into that position? Yep? Now, and you're telling
me no one else wanted him to play him at
his natural position at that point? He did that team
and that situation frustrated him so much against the direction
of the game that he just didn't want to play anymore.

(04:31):
That's what it seems like, because it's hard for me
to believe that's a guy as talented as he was,
But I think it has more to do with that.
He didn't. I don't think at that point in time
he really loved the game anymore. So it's either to stuff.
It's either to depart something when you don't love it.
If you have it a good there are very few
times abund you leave something where it's a party, it's

(04:51):
a concert, it's an event, it's church. If you're having
a good time, you're more you're less likely to leave. Now,
if you bored, you're like, man, that is it for
the birds. If you at church, you over that head
up and bud, you know you get that, you put
that dn's hand up and going up out. I'm I'm
a saying like this, and you ever you ever got

(05:13):
ready to go somewhere that you know what's finna be
the turn up they did?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
All right, now, look we're gonna go in here. We
have one drink. I'm gonna say hi, everybody.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
I want to be out of here by midnight, right,
And then you look at your Why it's two in
the morning.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
It happen you just ordered three more bile. But you
know what.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
But I've also been in a situation where I got
dressed and I'm like, man, why am I going already?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Know it's gonna be some bull drive and take my
clothes right on up. Off.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I don't go to award shows really anymore. Me and
my wife went to one. We was clean. I went,
brought me a behind his suit. Six rats. Yeah, I said,
I finish, dude it. I was like, this award, I'm nominated.
I want to pop out. Come on, baby, were gonna
we're finna pop out. Man. We had them tight ass

(05:59):
shoes on and win it up and lying behind Mary J.
Blige on the red carpet. Man, we tip some. We
left and as a as a couple, we haven't been
to an award show yet have since. Like, it's it's
too much, man, it's too much, Yeah, I think. But
I think the crux of this, I think he had

(06:20):
kind of fallen out of love with the game of
football and and now I'm looking. But you know how
sometimes you can look for a reason not to do something.
Oh you know what, that's it right there. So him
playing fullback for three players on one up with just
enough we used to there was a time and I
wasn't proud of it. There was a time when UGK

(06:43):
would tour and when you when when you're an artist
and you tour, you put together what's known as a riot,
and a riot is everything that you want ready for
you when you arrived in it when you were Typically
it's typically what you want for your dressing room, but
it also exted into the sound equipment. What kind of
board we send it the sound through, what kind of speakers?

(07:05):
You know what I'm saying, What does all of this
look like? And there was a time where we had
an air tight rider and Chad's whole thing was every
now and then we book a show where he knew
they weren't gonna have everything on the rider. And it's
a deal break, Like if contractually, if I go to
your city, you booked me for a show and I
said I need a through Z on there, and you

(07:27):
forget h L and W. I cannot perforone and still
get paid. Yes, you're right. So there was a time
where people's like, oh, man, I know they ain't gonna
have it tonight. I know they're not gonna have business
and that they don't even know how to find that
type of equipment. So I know they're not gonna have
this tonight. And I try to get with the sound man.
I tell him, bro, you got to spend a little

(07:48):
bit more money. Because you don't spend a little bit
more money, Bro, you're gonna lose a lot of money
because you got you got people that, like you say,
they looking for an excuse to go home. But let
me ask you this, like, why would a football player,
And I'm sure it's got to be several things, why
would If that wasn't enough to really be to make
a man want to quit the game, what would it

(08:10):
be that would have frustrated Darren Wallace and not want
to play? This is the guy that I used to
draft on my fantasy football team all the time. The
man was bound to do numbers. He was a good player.
Is it not being paid properly? Do you figure out
he played? He wanted the highest paid players. But bun
talking about it when he was motivated because he had
some off the field issues. He did everything. He sacrificed,

(08:32):
got his life in order to get back into the
league because he had a desire to get in the league.
At that point in time, he no longer had a
desire to stay in the league. And like you said,
if I'm looking for a can I promise you if
I'm looking for a reason not to go somewhere not
to do something. I can find one that's very true.

(08:56):
One reason I'm looking for a reason to stay on
this over and my draws and watch TV. Nor Lows
has canceled this race against Tyreek Hill in Times Square
due to personal reasons. Chetah ran ten one to five
hundred meters last week, and troll lives with a response

(09:19):
response to Noah's Tyreek could never signed out he ran
the sixty.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Meters in February. Noah could never.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I don't understand it's no allowed situation of protesting so
much in public.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Dou do protest too much?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I don't. I don't get it. I don't get it.
I guess because you know what, I've never he's got
to be some new shit with the Internet age. I've
never seen Olympic champions like compare themselves to basketball players and.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
All of that, Like it's no less procedures.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Let's be very clear, because but we don't see you
once even four years bro, it's not. Some of the
best basketball players to ever played this game never got
a shoot. Yes, they never got a shoot. They never
were picked out as one of the people that we
want to put on a pedestal and parade through the
press and all of this as a representative of that.

(10:15):
Even if you were that, look at the person that's
been the biggest, highest level of representation in the space
that you're in. Even when they got a shoot, it
was because of culture more than anything. When you say
Boat got a shoe, it wasn't just because he was
the fastest man in the world, right, it was a
cultural thing.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
He carried his country on his back. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
He was a larger than life personality. He was winning
by seconds, right, like, not these hype points. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there was no photo finishing. No, no, not at all.
He clearly dominated Shikari, clearly dominated. You know what I'm saying.
Those people that get those shoes with they're not question marks.

(10:59):
And if you went around and ask people who's the
fastest man in the world, a lot of them will
probably still think you.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Say Boat because could not tied into that.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
They were all they're gonna if you act if you're not,
first of all, you're not even the face of track
and field. Bro. No, like Sidney McLaughlin, let's start there, well,
Sidney McLachlin lebron Right, So so if You're not even
that dude in your space. Why are you comparing yourself
to people who are certifiably that dude in their space?

(11:31):
We kept, bro, calm down. When the last time you
saw somebody with track spikes at the mall? I ain't
seeing nobody else see him at the track, I see
the old people.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
It's not America's pastime. No, it's not you.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Way down there, you pass you behind NASCAR. First of all,
it's football and basketball and baseball and NASCAR and women's soccer.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
You way on down the list, bro, and it's something.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Look more now and you see what they've done is
that they have the Olympics every four years and now
they're having the World Championships. So people are following a
little more. But Bro, you he's gotta stop this hating
on basketball players and say, well, they won't give me this.
I mean, if you got to go back, really, only
two guys I can think of it's ever really had

(12:20):
a shoe and you really had to follow track and
field to know that's Michael Johnson and Usain Boat. But
you're talking about two of the greatest Olympians in the
history of the in track and field. These were Michael
Johnson was an anomaly in track and field. Yes, but
it wasn't he been a question like that was one
of the surest bets in sports for years, Bro, Yes,

(12:43):
years he was. He literally brought that sport to the
forefront of America because of how dominant he was. You're
not that guy in track and field, Bro, like track
and field. I just want to be clearing, no disrespect
to track and field athletes that ain't never been the
pre the prima donas sports that has never been there.
What Jesse Owens had to do in this country, Jefse

(13:05):
Owens had to come back. He won, he won three
gold medals. He came back and had to race horses.
So this fascination because there's so many other things. You
got baseball, you got football, you got basketball in Jamaica.
What other I'm trying to think Jamaica, you got track
and field, tracking, track and field, and I think soccer.

(13:26):
That's the biggest that's the biggest thing you got in Jamaica.
They don't play football, they don't play they don't do tennis, cricket, cricket.
Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, that's the big thing. But but
but I'm saying though, but you know, Noah is in
a he's in a niche sport. I don't understand. I
don't understand why he feels now all of a sudden

(13:49):
that a track and field star is on the same level.
Like it's no disrespect to the athleticism, right, we can't
disrespect the athleticism of these Olympic athletes. We always we
all understand what it takes to become who that brother
has because but your beef ain't with athletes, bro, your
beef is with with federation. Nobody's nobody's going to invest

(14:15):
in a shoe that people are going to buy. Why
they buy track shoes One because track shoes are only
meant to be one on court and the track shoes
it only makes you faster on the track. The track
court is if that's the only place that applies. So
a basketball player, yes, they will get shoes because people
will buy their shoes, put them on and go fucking

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play basketball. And guess what else they'll do. They'll walk,
They'll walk in the street. You see them in the
ball They'll go to events in shoes. And shoes are
just not for basketball shoes or just the their fashion statement.
Now you see guys at red carpet events. You see
guy an award show, you see guys wearing sneakers. So

(14:57):
that's the new thing. Is is Tennyson tucks tennis and
that's a new thing. But now, but he started as
long ago to Bud and I didn't like it talking
about he's a world champion of what the USA? Bro,
Come on, man, I think he's trolling this, bro, I
think I think he trolling us. I think he trolling
because he can't possibly believe that this is something that

(15:19):
people are that there's a popular opinion that you're right
that yeah, you know what, he should be this. No, no,
I don't believe that. I believe other tracks people saying,
shut up, boy, you're finna funk this up for everybody
else exactly exactly, And that, bro, you're not you saying
because you saying, you say was universally loved everywhere in China,

(15:40):
in Jamaica, in America.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
It didn't matter what because he was a winner.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
He was a winner, and not like you said, he
was ucky derby shit, he would transcend it. We're gonna
be talking about you saying boat fifty years from now.
We're gonna argue about how much faster he could have
run in certain races because down and I go to
my grade believing, had he not celebrated the last ten
twelve meters at Beijing when he turns sideways and he's

(16:08):
pounding his chest, he runs faster than nine to five.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Eight, I believe that. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I don't think he felt the need to run. He
is competent. He was daylights ahead of people and still
nobody's ever run faster than he ran there, and he
celebrated the last ten meters. Crazy crazy, no go sit down,
bro shut down, bro Gi any time out? Yeah you
but hey you evident up for everybody else? Hey, hey

(16:37):
sydey mclauchlin's and Lebron said, I don't feel that way.
Rab bitcham said I don't feel that way.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Hall, I like where I'm at with this right now.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Well if that think hold on, if that's the case, Hell,
Michael Felim should have got a shoot.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Some my own files should get a shoot.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
If we throwing our shoes.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
This is true because they're more accomplished than you in
this sports. So I've just drunk.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
So the Olympics champions and more cost than you.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
A two time Olympic champ. She's the world record holder.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
She's what a two or three time I mean she
she skipped the last world championships. She's a two or
three time world champion. She's the most dominant four hundred
meters hurdle. She might be one of the most versatile
women in track and field history. Noah, you've never you
haven't any more in the Goldmeller in your signature event.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
And see and what Michael did. What really put Michael.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
On the map is when the Olympics was in where Atlanta,
he had the gold shoes on. He doubled the four
hundred and the two hundred. It never been done in men.
The women at Battery Brisko Hooks getting in eighty four.
People don't realize she was the first to do it.
And then Jose a main reparect, she did it the

(17:54):
French one. She doubled up into two in the four. No, Bro,
you're fighting the losing battle.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Do I think.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I think he's phenomenal. I think he's phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
He's he's he's great, But Bro, just run get the
meat money, uh, the deedas what they pay you. You
break a record, do you win the Diamond Leagues or
you win the US, do you win the trial, you
win the world, bro, But just go go all villain
at this point, just go all villain, right with a mask.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
You got to do Floyd Mayweather.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
And be the and be the bad guy and get
and try to get and for people to pay to
watch you lose that kind of thing. But he about
would get a mask. I'm a really I will come
back there with I would come back there with Calbo.
I ain't gonna have my spikes, so I'm gonna come
out there with cal I woulda come out there with
a cowboy booths and black leather trench cold, and I'm
gonna have a toy gun on my side.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
If you say gonna go villain, just go all out.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Tell him go race, I show speed, then I talk.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Oh you wanted to raise speed, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
But if you want to raise somebody, you want to
prove how fast year is, they go go go beat
speed right now. But you do realize that if he
were to raise speed of Tyreek, it'll get more views
than if he what he was in the in the world,
in the World Championships, without question, more people would care
and that's the problem. Like we could and feel really
we care about what we care about the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
That's every four years, just imagine.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
And you can't And even when they have dollon League meets,
you can't watch them unless you're going to unless you're
going to your computer and pull them up and float
track shout out the float track for trying to advertise
to trying to show showcase. But bro, I mean, I'm
just I'm just keeping a stack with you. We wouldn't
even be talking about this man if he wasn't trolling.
It's like, I think this is all the troll to

(19:44):
get his get his name in the national conversation one
way or another. Some people, some people don't know the
difference between famous and infamous Shannon, They don't know. Sometimes
they say, any any news is good news. Any Push
your T new mute and new Push your T music,

(20:07):
Like hey, push your T hasn't released music since twenty eighteen,
and he has people constantly wondering who may get this,
And this time it's Travis Scott, the latest target. On
his new clips single so Be It. Pusher was upset
that Travis previewed his album Utopia to Pharail in Paris
with clips and attendance, but didn't play Drake's verse on Meltdown,

(20:29):
a song that Drake taunts Pharrell and push it, Bun.
I don't know if you've been a part of any beats.
I think, Beef. I think you have been a little
part of little Something, a little slup suck. So yeah,
that's something something. Where where are you on? Where are
you gonna push it? Push is a dangerous man. I
had a conversation about pushing many years ago with a

(20:52):
very good friend and mentor of mine.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Clark Kent Okay and DJ Clark Kent.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
DJ Clark k Clark Kent told me this was in
the beginning of the Pusher and Drake Beef, and I
was like, this is going to be interested. He said, yeah,
but not like people think it's going to be interested,
because this dude operates in a space where you really
don't have nothing to lose. And I didn't really understand
it at the time, and it took me a while
to really grasp what he meant when he said it,

(21:22):
because I don't typically get in these things right, but
I understand how confrontation works, and you do not get
you try to avoid at all costs of man with
nothing to lose. Cou entertained is we're mostly beholden to
the public. Most of us make more money on touring,
selling merchandise and those types of things, and in order

(21:45):
to really capitalize off of that, you have to be
in with high.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Standing and high favor.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
You got to be a public a rich dude that
that A man that makes his money outside of music
doesn't have to worry about that in that way. Push
your t is not behold than to the public, in
the way that a lot of the rest of us are.
He operates in a space where regardless of whether it's
albums go platinum or double platting like that, he's gonna

(22:11):
eat very well long as for real eating, he gonna eat.
So that's not a threat. They don't do friends anyway,
so rubbing people the wrong way is not a problem.
They're prepared to not be in favor. That's a dangerous man.
That's a dangerous man. I'm not saying that's a man

(22:31):
that's gonna automatically beat you, but that where you go
against somebody ain't got nothing to lose in the situation.
I'm not gonna lose no money. I'm not gonna lose
no social standing. I'm gonna keep being who I was.
I'm not gonna lose a meal, my family, not gonna
lose a quality of life. You be very careful when
you decide to go toe to told with somebody like that.
You be very careful because most of us do have

(22:52):
things to lose. Most of us do need public favor
in order to make money of it. Most of us
do need relationships and friends and not to burn bridges
with people in order to susain certain qualities of life.
I don't think that brother operate like that. And when
somebody and there's a freedom that comes in writing when
you don't let me tell you something. There's a difference

(23:15):
when you make music because you have to, as opposed
because you won't to.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
There's a difference. There's a freedom that comes with that.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
There's a confident that comes with that because you're not thinking, ooh,
what if so and so, what if then what if
these people or if Pitchfork don't put me on the
list and all of this type of stuff. What if
Apple don't put me on the playlist, so I don't
get on the Spotify playlist all of these days.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Some people don't that that's not contingent on them.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Eating at night for most of us is absolutely a
part of It's an unavoidable part of it. But I
don't think he operating in that space. So I think
he is willing to just throw caution to the wind
and be like, you know what, I don't really fuck
with him anyway. And they not lose.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
They don't.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
It is not you don't see push that award show.
You don't see them at clubs and party. They don't
mix like that. They mix with their own and they're
pretty good in the streets as well. So it's it's
whatever that being said. Travis ain't about the back down.
Trafficks ain't about the back down. So you say traffick
coming back, traffic gonna come back with a person on

(24:21):
and own. I wouldn't be surprised if you hear seven
before the wig None.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
It's neither.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
It's neither to go into it or act like it
didn't happen. But the problem is is that the people
are going to demand a response. With these things happen,
you have to respond. You can you can't let you can't.
You can't that would be the biggest bad iubble let it.
I'm just gonna let it go blister like a water
off a duck's back. I'm just gonna let it roll down.

(24:47):
And not if that ain't been a part of your
character all this time. You know what I'm saying, You
can't be You can't be walking around with gloves on
the way for somebody to tie them up and then
turn it down the first fight you get.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Wow, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
So, And I've been around Travis enough to know that, No,
he's not gonna take that line down. He's absolutely not
going to allow his public perception to be played with
like that. But you gotta be careful when people try
to bait you in. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
You got very pusher if if if a this artist

(25:21):
we got he got he got one of the best
discy you know him, and he went at Drake. He
operates in his face. This is not new to him.
This is not a problem for him. And he don't
answer to people in that way. Not saying that Travis
answered to people. But Travis got a fan base that's huge,
like international, millions and millions of people around the world

(25:42):
who have bought into Travis Scott. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, that's why he got him collambed with sneaker Nike.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
And you know he's got the relationship with with Louis
Vuitton as wellet. Absolutely, So this is going to happen,
and it's not gonna be Look, we've only heard two
songs and he did somebody on both songs. It's not over.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I don't. I think there's a couple of more targets down.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I think that I think target there's no there's no
telling who Pusher don't like for whatever reason, and there's
no telling if he's gonna decide to speak on him.
You know what I'm saying, he's not. He's not a
not a quiet guy. He's not a quiet guy. He's
not a scary guy, not easily pushed pushed around. You

(26:31):
know what I'm saying, No pun intended. So it's it's
gonna be interesting to watch out this play out. It's
really it really is. The traffics is either gonna have
to ignore it or go all in. Wow, that's that's
the only way these things work. Because I don't I
don't pushes a guy. I said what I said, and
I'm done kind of a thing. So if there's more

(26:51):
slugs to be shot, it's gonna be at more rappers.
It won't be multiple shots at one or two people.
If he go, if he jumping off, if you drop
it off the porch, he's gonna jump all the way
off the porch, not two steps down. He's gonna be Yeah,
you'll get back home.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
He's gonna stay off the porch.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
He off you off. But I like this stuff, and
it keeps it keeps you wraps fun, It keeps you fresh,
and it reminds people to not get comfortable wax. That's fine,
that's fine. And I don't think these guys move in
the same social circles to where their camps would ever
really kind of be well, people don't wear these things right,
so to each other.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Well, it's not even them.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Promoters.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
The smart promoters will try to avoid that.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Most people's teams won't allow them to be booked in
the same place anyway, because you'd have to be a
missive promoter to try to book uh, you know, like
Drake and Kendrick at the same festival. Drake's people not
because only one can can close, right if both of
them feel they and so this promoter is not gonna

(27:56):
get into that or their representation. It's not gonna allow
them to be pulled then to that type of thing.
So it's gonna be interesting to see how many people
he did on his album and those were people respond
because wrap and manage a response now, because like I
talked about, the equipment, you know, music equipment and all
that stuff is so much cheaper. The technology is cheaper,
so you ain't got to wait book no studio. Most

(28:18):
of these dudes among timean they got to studio at
the crib YEP.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
We can go in and make make something about this
right now? Or do you think hold it back?

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Do you think we're gonna see more of this because
of the success that Kendrick had with his shot that
he took at Drake and you look at what it
parlayed into. He got the super Bowl, he got what
five Grammys. He he's selling out the most I think
fourteen million dollars in one show.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
All of his shows with Scissa is selling out.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Are we are we hitting down a path where people
see that this is a way that Okay, we saw
what Kendrick did let's take this role too. You gotta
bring ass to kick ass. So I would not recommend
people think that that's how that goes. That if you did,
somebody jump out that No, no, no, that's not how
that works. First of all, you got to be more

(29:08):
talented than the other person. You know what I'm saying.
Kendrick is one of the most single talented, single most
talented writers. We have one of the deepest thinkers that
we have. So going there against everybody ain't gonna be
your forte. You know what I'm saying. Everybody ain't built
to be dissed. I don't know if people understand that.

(29:31):
Everybody's not built for public humiliation, you know what I'm saying,
Like some people will overthink those things, and.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
I've never thought everybody that I knew I could beat them.
You get no satisfaction out of that. Yeah, I don't
get no points, I don't getting no credit. You know
what I'm saying. It's a weaker person, so punching down
is not gonna work. And everybody can't punch up, so
somebody's got to lose. So again, it all goes back to, yeah,

(30:06):
you can engage in this stuff and it'll be fun
and you'll get some streams or whatever, but somebody gonna lose.
They can you afford to lose in those spaces. I
feel like push you can. I don't think being popular
changes anything for him, you know what I'm saying. He's
always been a unique taste. Like he's made street music

(30:26):
and they've had commercial success, but they've never toured in
that way. Right, They aren't dependent on the other parts
of the machine that everyone else is solely dependent on.
Because we don't have somebody like for real, who's you know,
always going to produce everything we do. So we know
we're getting a hit record who's always going to have

(30:47):
his hands into some major cultural happenings, you know what
I'm saying. So we'll always be a part of it.
It's always doing these huge deals, so we'll always be
in this position of financial benefit working with him. So
all this other shit ain't nothing. We just had fun.
I believe this is very, very fun for Pushy because
there's no threat to an it. The Right Complex listed
the thirtieth thirty Corneus rapt Beasts of All Time. You

(31:12):
see that list. We're gonna put the lists up there
So if I have not seen this list, please put
this list up. We can't, Okay, I wanna name a
couple of them, Coolie O and Weird Al True Life
In Jim Jones, Nellie and Chinghi Bad Harby and Alabama,
Barker six' nine And Triple, Red, Nicki Minajen Ransom kim

(31:34):
Versus Little, Kim Nicki minajen et, Cetera gilly The kid
Versus Lil, Wayne Joe budden Versus, Drake Jermaine duprie Versus
Doctor dre And, Timberland tiger Versus, Drake lulu Versus Big
sean And. Drake Soldier boy versus Bow, wow J cole Versus,
Cannabis Joey badass Versus Little, Beat Charles hamilton Versus Soldier,

(31:55):
Boy Young la Versus Ali, Boy, Eminem Nick, CANNON, Pm
don Krs, One Terry, Kennedy, Loupe, Fiasco Common, DRAKE Mc,
hammer Jay, Z Little, Kim, nicki minaj k r S, One,
Nellie Kimberlin's Got, Stars ice T Soldier, boy the game

(32:17):
JAY Z.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
My three or. Four it was With Soldier.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Boy you you thinking the same, Thing say he it
was somebody all the. Time you, know there was a
lot of resentment for, him just on general. Principal people
thought that he hadn't sacrificed and worked hard enough to
get what he had. Gotten had, boy you know he
had the first, iPhone, Right, okay had the first ye
had the first microphone, too you know that he.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Tried he had the first Trip.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Berbon, now the only one of those that weren't, corny
the only one of those out of all those you,
named that was actually a situation which that it didn't
have anything in, music was a true Life Jim jones.
Situation that was something that was was not, music that

(33:03):
was something that filled into music from some street things going.
On so that one was actually that wasn't going that
people could have really gotten hurt with that in that.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Situation but the.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Rest of, themself, folks people would argue with or not
though some of those people are even considered rap legitimate,
rappers like we'd we'd aw come, on, bro why why
are we even coolier? On and we'd Recipes coolie on
first ball to THE O. G, yeah but yeah we're.
Rapping we'd al don't even go, together and the Same Bad,

(33:34):
Barbie Bad Bad barbie And Alabama. Barker really that's what we're.
Doing are they really even Considered like And i've Known
alabama's since she was a little. Girl i've had a
relationship With travis for many many years. NOW i just
don't they just playing on the. Internet, Bro they're Not
these people are not. Rappers they make rap. Music and

(33:55):
that's the. Problem like we live in an age now
where people make rap music who aren't rappers but may
have a.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Following you know What i'm. Saying you got a lot of, streamers.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Right these guys stream for you, know their content is fairly,
long so a lot of them they're streaming for hours
and they can only get you, know that one, person
that one view during that. Stream but if they make
a song and the song's only three minutes long as
opposed to one hour, stream they could get replays on that.
Stream so you have guys LIKE i met the guy

(34:29):
Rices gum he's from he's with The phase clan and
all those guys the. Streamers, right he's one of the
top streamers in the world and he made a record
just because he, could and it got like eight million
views in like no time because he's already got the.
Audience so views Don't views don't don't mean views don't equal.

(34:49):
Talent And i'm not saying that rights have hapen to.
Talent the st streamer he. Was he was a decent
enough rapp or, whatever but that don't mean talent and
that shit don't translate into real. World you have a
lot of, people they get a lot of attention, online
they get a lot of streams and all of, that
but they couldn't book a show to same day like
because nobody really wants to see an extended version of
that in the.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
World LIKE i ain't got time to really.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Go you're not watch, it But i'm not gonna pay
no money to go watch right right, exactly you know
What i'm. Saying so a lot of these people they just,
trying they playing that, rap you know What i'm. Saying,
now you know the J, coles The commons and all
of those people are, RIGHT a lot of that tother
is just, misunderstanding you know What i'm. SAYING a lot
of those were just really, misunderstandings and people like LIKE

(35:32):
i don't like why this guy's, here and they don't
really even know these, people you, Know Third, BASE mc
hammer and all of that type of stufwhere to be,
honest no beef when hammer was coined Because hamil was
really about them. Streets hammilo was really. Outside but people
think they can shoot at no hanging. Fruit that's everything
you talk. About one of those people thought they was
really rapping and they thought the other person really wasn't

(35:53):
even gonna be able to hang in the. Competition but
we live in The internet age, now this this one
has very little to do with the. Music it's always
about the content and go and live and rocking shit
on people and calling people out their name and pulling
up and, yeah, man we will pull up an old
block and we donn pull up over, here and ain't
nobody outside where y'all?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
At we out here and all of. That it goes
beyond the.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Music the music gonna be one video, post but the
beef gonna be twenty five.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Because we're not buying Any we're not just buying.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Music no. Motion AND i don't think people realize that
we're not buying. Music we buyding any. Personality we're buind the.
Person you know What i'm. Saying the music is, Cool
but as far as the average consumer, feels everybody can,
rap everybody can make, song my, doorman the boy at
the larger. Back they can make a, rhyme the guy
that that that brought my dinner to me at the,
restaurant he can rhyme making all. Rap but who are

(36:47):
you as a? Person you know What i'm. Saying people
can't just like they want to feel like they're a
part of. You they want to feel like they really know.
You they want to go on that walk with. YOU
i tell all up and coming artists film, everything put
every shoot everything you, do and shoot it all because
you don't know what part of your life people don't
actually connect. TO i was doing music for.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
YEARS i put a post and all of that AND
i get a reasonable.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Response but we started doing food videos a couple of
years ago with my, granddaughter me and my. Wife my
granddaughter started doing food. VIDEOS i started a YouTube. PAGE
i got one hundred and thirty seven thousand followers on
my YouTube page BECAUSE i was doing like sixty Second
instagram video and that started the, blog which Started. TREILBURGERS

(37:29):
i had no idea people were interested in WHAT i
was eating for, dinner, right you know What i'm.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Saying so you share all of these things and you
find out what.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Clicks you know What i'm, Saying you got a bigger
relationship with the public now as a as a podcast
or as an interviewer than you probably ever had as
an athlete. Ever you know What i'm. Saying now that
you're really and now that you realize that gives you a,
stronger deeper connection with, People now we can really play with.
This that's what y'all wanted from, me was to. Talk
y'all must not know how Much i'd like to talk.

(37:59):
Anyway let's get to. It let's get to. It timberland
got blasted on social media for using a producer's beat
at a producer's tag to train HIS ai platform. Souno

(38:20):
tim previewed a demo record which utilized the beat tag
from K fresh and lyrics from TikTok. Creator he sought
to make a new version of the, song but users
quickly noticed they were a bit too. Similar they called
out The virginia producer using real music made by human
beings to TRAIN ai without crediting or paying. Them bun

(38:41):
AND i REMEMBER i remember having a conversation With tim
BECAUSE i had him on the, pod and he said
he was nervous about. This bun do you think about the.
Controversy what do you think is going on with tim
and this NEW ai. CREATION i THINK i, think for,
one it's uncharted, territory AND i think it's still in
a very early stages of the. TECHNOLOGY i think it's

(39:04):
going to grow over leaps and bounds over the next
couple of years because they covered so much ground in
the last ten years WITH ai.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Technology you know What i'm.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
SAYING ai companies are starting to pop up more and,
more and they're all billion dollar. Companies people are flooding
these companies with all kinds of. MONEY i think IT'S
i think this is the. PROBLEM i think that we're
not thinking about this what they're doing now. All the
only way THAT ai can do these things is if
you feed it. Information you have to feed it. INFORMATION i,

(39:33):
know on a very small, level on the introductory, level
there are musicians who are FEEDING ai machines their, voices their,
cadences their, tones some of them the way they play.
Instrumentation and now THE ai program can replicate what a
rhyme from you would sound like without you having to write,
it what cords being played would sound like without you

(39:53):
having to play of you know What i'm saying that's very.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Dangerous here's the real danger.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Thought WHAT i. Believe we live in the digital, world,
right all these everything digital has what they call watermarks, yep,
right and watermarks and what they use to track the
technology as it goes out into the. World so companies
can be, like, oh that's what they, do that's our.
TECHNOLOGY i bet we can find it in the, code,

(40:19):
right that kind of a. THING i think everybody that's
utilizing this stuff right, NOW i feel like one day
CHAT gpt can wake up one day and, say everybody
that's ever made music using my, technology you on the
piece of, it and there's nothing you can. SAY i
don't believe that anybody's read their, agreement. Right i'm sure

(40:40):
if somebody got through these CHAT gpt and all these
DIFFERENT ai companies agreements where you agree to utilize the
technology or download the app and all of, THAT i
guarantee that they are going to go back find out
everything that was created using their, technology that profited that
will sit out into the world.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
As commerce and people spend money on.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
It they gonna come back the same way that older
artists are coming back because somebody sampled their. Music. Right
i've created that you took my creation and manipulated it
without paying. Me you owe me. MONEY i believe these
people are giving this technology out to people for free
and the hopes that they utilize it, unknowingly giving these

(41:23):
companies a piece of this intellectual, property because it's all intellectual, property, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
You know What i'm.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Saying SO i THINK i won't touch, IT i won't
download it, nothing because not That i'm against, it you,
know for recreational, USE i guess that's fine if it
helps organized things and put things.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Together you, know, however THAT i.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Understand but when we're talking about utilizing this technology to
manipulate intellectual, properties, bro we're playing the dangerous ass. Game
because somebody could just start Feeding Ai timberlin's beat, structures
you know What i'm. Saying they can start utilizing his
drum patterns and put that in and they a trembling
record without, him you, know. Wow and you're opening yourself,

(42:04):
up quite frankly with the way he's doing, it to
a whole lot of litigation and a whole lot of. Trouble,
PERSONALLY i don't Think america is the market for. That
japan And china's been doing it for, years, right you
know What i'm. Saying but that's a cultural. Thing they're
they're so they socialize different in certain. Countries so having

(42:28):
a relationship with someone that, THAT i, know this shit sounds,
crazy but having a relationship with a, machine for some
people fits their lifestyle a lot. Better it doesn't work
like because they don't have they don't have the social
graces to go out and meet people and and commune
with people in that. Way so this is a, healthy

(42:49):
in their minds. Alternative but here, now at some, point
we don't want to see somebody get on stage and
sing this, shit you know What i'm. Saying and you
know it's it's the it's the a, llure, Right it's
still allure like making The stallion is a famous person
because men find her, attractive women find her, attractive you
know What i'm.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Saying there's an allure to.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
It japan And china has that very strange relationship with
technology in that way where they they don't just make,
robots they have relationships with robots and pillows and all
of that type of shit is. DIFFERENT i don't think
that he can break a star like, that because at
some point somebody got to get on the, stage somebody

(43:32):
got to sign an, autograph somebody got to take a,
picture you. Know AND i don't think we want to
see a robot and a computer do that to the
point of touring right. Today but you, know you, know
ten YEARS i might be. Different, Look i'm an analog.
DUDE i come up on eight tracks and putting forty

(43:52):
five's on the. Record i'm not knocking, it BUT i
think we don't understand it enough to utilize it than
the way that we try to utilize. IT i think
that's the real problem With. TIM i don't think he's
really thinking of the Cons everybody USES ai for what
they think they can make it work, for but nobody's
thinking about how this could set Back And timing is

(44:14):
such a major impactful player in the entertainment industry that
that shit could really people would follow suit if he became,
Successful if he and his artist becomes, successful this will
be a. Thing it will be a whole. Thing Will
smith is reflecting on Raising jaden And willow and revealed

(44:34):
that honesty isn't always the best when parenting your. Children
we made a very very very very terrible mistake with our,
children and we went radical, honesty but don't do. It
i'm not advocating for. It i'm not advocating for. It
we made a deal from really young with our. Kids
the deal was you tell the, truth you won't get in.

(44:56):
Trouble he explained that the parenting style backfired with the
two youngest. Kids the only way you can get in
trouble in this house that if we find out you
did something and you didn't tell the, truth it was a.
Mistake it was terrible because they do whatever they want
and then they come tell you it's. Awful don't try.
It you want your kids to, lie, definitely you. Don't

(45:17):
don't do, don't don't want to know stuff your kids
are thinking of. Doing. Bun you got, kids you got,
grandkids and a lot of, times you, know the thing,
is if you're not, Careful, bun you kind of raise
your kids kind of the way you was, raised because
that's what you. Know you, know you see the way
you might yell and the least little thing might sit you.
Off but you, gotta you, know especially if you know

(45:39):
you got you gotta try to break that. Cycle he
said that if he tell us the, truth you won't
get in. Trouble bull.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
JYE i. DON'T i don't know how they kept that, up.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
To be, honest because, yeah your parents will say, that
but you when you really started telling what you really.
Do we don't have some problems in, this oh, yeah you.
Know AND i don't understand this idea of being raised
a certain, way constantly telling people that the way you
was raised made you how you, were and then you

(46:15):
refuse to insteal any of that into your. CHILDREN i
don't understand these people, that for, example the coaches that
WHEN i was in, school the coaches was built a certain. Way,
absolutely coaches were built a certain. Way and the players
they didn't like, running they ain't like the, drills they
ain't like none of that. Stuff and those are the coaches,
now you know What i'm. Saying so we're getting a

(46:39):
lesser version of what we. HAD i don't understand why
people whose life trajectory were determined based on the fact
of the discipline that was asserting into their life and
to deny their children that same discipline were the only.
Generations we're the only generate that they sacrifice quality their,

(47:01):
life aren't.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
You we won't.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Joke we want our kids In, george and we won't.
Jokes we want our kids and nice, folks and we
want nice. Vokes my man didn't EVEN i remember that
man ain't used, lotion Bro, like his life was not
about modern convenience for.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Him it was about convenience for the.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Family.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Correct but when you don't have to struggle like, that it's.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Different the house my kids grew in is different from
the house that my grandkids, visit, Right, like we had
to work up to this. House but they were born
into this, house, correct you know What i'm. Saying so
they just think that's how it's supposed to. Go somebody
Like Will smithing THAT i know for a, Fact will

(47:46):
smith came up, Harder. PHILLY i know for a Fact
Jada pinkett came up, harder. Right AND i know they
are strong willed as they are because of the discipline
that was, instilled because they could have very easily been
taken way by the community that they lived. In we
understand those things that still exists in rich neighborhoods, too

(48:06):
because it's bad rich kids, too.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
You know What i'm.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Saying those kids tend to get away with more because
the parents can get him out of the most. Shit
so the idea of letting your children live a free
life as ever they tell you the. Truth this, SHIP
i still can't even to my, MAMA i, DID i
might still get popped up side by. Here and there's
things that my mama told me she knew THAT i

(48:31):
didn't even know she. KNEW i did you just take
to your, grave. BUN i JUST i just. DON'T i
have a. NEPHEW i won't get too deep into my
have a. Nephew and his daddy was a certain way
when he was. Young his daddy was a very very
well known person in the, city and his mama tried

(48:51):
tried everything to not let him know who his. Daddy
his daddy really really got that. Man once that boy
found that, out that you he was old enough to
deal with the reality it is trouble went out there
trying to be like, that trying to live up to
a life that was never meant for, him that he
was never a part. Of to never, say just to
see if it was in it. Me he end up

(49:14):
in the, Penitatia he end up in, jail and all this.
Stuff now, retrospect you realize you chase not to sudden Should,
yeah that's not. True that was his life that's not,
yours right, Right but you know, what, bun that's how
you have to. Be AND i told my, KIDS i
don't you. KNOW i live my.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
LIFE i say playing in THE nfl was my, dream
that's not.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yours you live your, dream, Yes so when you try,
to when you start trying to live somebody else's, dream
that's where you're running the. PROBLEMS i didn't push you
back to well, MAN i got a, Son, bro you
ain't gonna play, football you ain't gonna play, Basketball you're
not gonna DO, X y AND.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Z but that's not his. Dream that was.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
MINE i want you to be whatever you choose to.
BE i just want you to be the best you
can at. It i'd rather you be a good you
than a bad. Need absolutely there it. Is that's. IT
i would much rather you be the best for you
than a bad version of. Me smith recently dropped an,
album his first album in twenty. Years his new song

(50:06):
got Killed. Online but why do you think we'll refocused on?
Music because he's the first guy that With people don't
realize some, dude But will was the first artist to
win A Rap. Grammy absolutely, Now will's always been ahead
of the. CURVE i think this is a new way
of him re engaging with the. Public you, Know Will
will jumped on social media with a. Splash, yeah because

(50:30):
no one that had ever been that famous in that,
world that ever opened up their life like, that right,
Right and it started with His instagram. Page will was
going all over the world all this crazy shit On,
instagram and we were drawn to. It at the same
Time Red Table, talk we get to, look you, know
pull the curtains back on The wizard to see this

(50:51):
very to see these people have this very vulnerable. Conversation
you know What i'm. SAYING i think we'll JUST i
think this is a lot easier for him to do right.
NOW i don't think movies is a big thing for
him right. NOW i think this is just a different
way for him to engage with. People AND i can
understand that because you see a lot of other actors

(51:12):
doing a lot of that stuff, now trying to go
Out Tom, cruise going at you, know all the movie
theaters and hanging out with the people and stuff like.
That you, Know BUT i think With, will you can't
you can't chase the drag Like will has all the
resources that you need to release an album to have impact.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Internationally but, again you got.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
To read the.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Room just because you can do some things don't mean you.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Should just because you can go, SOMEWHERE i don't mean
you need to be, there, Right and But Will smith
can do, this and this don't really change. Nothing nobody's
gonna stop seeing the movie because Of Will smith did
an album that they didn't care. For, Correct nobody's gonna
Absolutely and we don't expect everybody to be great at,
everything ain't they?

Speaker 2 (52:00):
DO i KNOW i.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
DON'T i don't take everybody to be great at everything they.
DO i expect you to be good at what you
don't to be good, at because BECAUSE i might Like
Will smith the movie, star but not Like Will smith the.
ACTOR i mean some people like the. Rapper some people
may not even know who it. Is, Right let's let's
you can look at it in two. Ways, right you
can look at it the hip, hop the hip hop
fans who may not be all the way with him

(52:24):
in the movies because some of his movies might be.
Different and then you may have some movie fans that
may not be all the way in on the. Music
LIKE i, SAID i got people that come and eat The.
Burger they don't even know Who bunna, be the rapper
His so you may have a lot Of Will smith,
fans particularly in the nationally who some of them may not,
know although he's so tied in with The Fresh prince
and THE tv, showing everybody knows that song right.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Right BUT i don't think THERE'S i don't think there's
a high level of.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
EXPECTATION i don't think anybody expects more out of his
record than he. Does you know, Much and it could
be this could be marketed, right it couldn't be just
a way too because if you, notice everything he's doing is,
internationally like the, videos the concerts and, performances all the street,
shit everything he's doing to engage with people is. Internationally

(53:12):
Because i'm almost certain he's a bigger star internationally than
he is. Here so this is just probably we Love Will.
Smith we grew up With Will, Smith we've been on
him for. Years we don't go See Will, SMITH i
think because he's not doing a multitude of action movies
and shit right now like he normally. Do this just
a way of keep keeping itself on people's minds like
home make albums. NOW i hope don't make an album

(53:33):
to make to make to make money off of. Music
hope uses it to keep his public profile at a
high level to perpetuate other income revenue streams that he
got coming. In how much you think is from the
blowback because of what happened with him And Chris? Rock
do you think he's still suffering from, that. BUN i
wouldn't say, suffering, RIGHT i THINK i think the people

(53:54):
that don't like him for that don't like him for.
That but there's the people that are, famous Like Will.
Smith will all always have not just, fans they don't
have psycho, fans, Right so there's always going to be
a contingency of people that Want Will smith's, entertainment, Right
they're gonna want, that there's no way around. It he's
a bigger force in that space Than Chris. Rock and

(54:15):
it's not like they get Less Chris rock because of what.
Happened they get pretty much the same amount Of Chris.
Rock SO i don't. THINK i don't think it's pushed
back on that. Professionally now personally he may be going
through something where he feels like he's got to reinvigorate the,
image go out there and make himself likable and lovable
again to. People that could be happening because it can't

(54:37):
be for, money, right it can't be making his music for.
Money so it's got to be a way that he
thinks he can better rebuild the relationship with people that
may be looking at him a certain. BOY i don't
think it's, necessary but he may think it's necessary, because
like we talked About, lebron he's one of those people
that like to be like that's for goddamn. Sure that's

(54:58):
the big thing About Will. Smith he always come with
that big. Smile he's very, engaging very, entertaining very, likable very,
approaching very. Personable those kinds of people don't like it
when they're. Not they're. Not, YEAH i love in the public.
Shit so it could just be for him because the
career don't need. It but maybe internationally it might be

(55:20):
some shit he got to do because maybe that translated
different over that when he did. That Mariah carey still
doesn't believe in birthdays or the passage of. TIME i
just don't believe in. TIME i don't have a. Birthday anniversaries,

(55:43):
yes but birthday.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
No you gotta Love, Mariah you gotta Love mariah.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Care the more the OLDER i get and the more
we sarn start to know About mariah care because she
was very private for a long. Time, yes she was
very very private about a lot of things for for
a long. TIME i don't think we realize And i'm
gonna say, THIS i don't think you realize how Black
Mariah carey. IS i THINK I i don't think we

(56:13):
realize that's a real, sister right compared to what the
public perception might. Be AND i heard she's a fool,
Too like she's a very, funny, like very very down
to earth. Person this is part for the. COURSE i
remember all the shit with J, lo LIKE i don't
know this person and all That Maria carrey is a whole,
fool like real and for her to want to marry

(56:37):
and many kids and do all of these things With
Nick cannon really tells, me like you a fool like.
YOU i don't mean, CRAZY i mean like, you like
you got a real personality like You you've subject to
say from wild. Shit that's who Where riah. Carry that's
Why Mariah carey don't do a lot in public because
she knows she's prone it Sh, yeah, ABSOLUTELY i love

(57:03):
it because she bit. Consistent she is who she. Is
she don't do shit for Cap she don't do shit
for the. Cameras she only come out when she's. Comfortable
this whole thing With Anderson pack is very interesting BECAUSE
i love this new. Song she got a new single
that's written and produced By Anderson, pack who's an amazing.
Artist and they're also saying that they're a couple now,
too you know What i'm. Saying so those things are

(57:25):
always good for. Music when, artists you, know get in
a relationship with somebody they can create, together that's always
a good and fun.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Thing and she looked. Happy, yes she looks happy as.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Hell she's always had this very awkward energy in public
kind of thing BECAUSE i feel like she knows she
can't be herself. Correct the image has been presented a
certain way as to How Mariah carey moved and don't he.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Wrong she's just, classic she presents. Herself she's all of.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
That but soon as that soon as the camera cut,
off you could tell she who, shit, girl what's? Up?

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Like, yes you know What i'm, saying ready to. Release
So i'm happy For.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Mariah Then mariah and not celebrating, birthday that's that's Very
mariah of Her. Bun let me know what you. Think
jadakiss is still upset about not making the top five
On Complex top Fifty New york. Lists if we were
to do a top Fifty houston, List, bun If bun

(58:23):
gonna be in the top, ten there's an argument to,
that And i'm gonna tell you, why because Technically i'm
From Port. Arthur that's the way That I'm i've been
put in this. Lexicon uh ugk typically is taken out
of that conversation For houston taking Now. Texas oh, no

(58:46):
you're gonna have hell try to be better than that's. Text,
okay so we're gonna since It's New, york we're gonna make.
It we're gonna make It. Texas, then, no you can't
even have that. Conversation you can't even have that. Conversation
WHAT i, Mean i'm Not i'm Not i'm not trying
to toot my own. Horn but there's a certain style
of rapping that didn't even really exist In houston BEFORE

(59:07):
i started. RAPPING a certain way like being a lyricist
wasn't necessarily a, requirement you know What i'm. Saying it
wasn't necessarily something you had to do to be successful
here because it wasn't a demand. Primary BUT i never
felt LIKE i felt LIKE i was already way past
my competition, Here SO i was compete with, everybody you

(59:30):
know What i'm. Saying, so, yeah there's no way you.
Could the only way you take me out of it
is that it's like, now but we don't mean, You
we don't mean like you in face or. Whatever but
if we talking about everybody top five From, texas, MAN
i gotta wash my mouth on, this really try to
be cool about. IT i honestly don't think there's five

(59:53):
people From houston that can rap better than. Me that's
just from the state Of texas that's better than. ME
i give A dlc and Star. FACE i give A
dlc And Scarf. Ace that's. It that's. It maybe three,
two maybe recipes three. Two but yeah they Got, Yeah
i'm looking at this. List yeah they got they they
do got they Got. Jada damn they Got jada at.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Yeah, no they're wrong for. That they very wrong for.
That and, LOOK i understand because you have to understand
that some of the greatest rappers of all time came
From New. York Absolutely that's What i'm. Saying so IT'S
i understand why they would want to honor other people
before they Honored Jada. Kiss you know What i'm. SAYING

(01:00:38):
i get, That and but all of shit is, relative
right because in the early, days wasn't nobody hunted IN,
lll didn want nobody hand Than Rock kim Then Carroll,
reds you, know like these things are. Subjected, yeah you
know What i'm. Saying but if somebody that lives in
the modern time In New York city is Raising New

(01:00:59):
york rappers and they don't Put Jady kins into his top, ten,
right for, SURE i can understand people wanting to argue
about whether or not these top five if you look
at the whole. Scheme but you gotta, again you gotta
put the Rock kims in The Big Daddy, kanes and
you got you. Crazy you know the man they Got
Big Daddy cane for far out man that people don't
realize how Good Big Daddy cane.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Was Big Daddy cane was is still like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
That, look, man we are we sit there all The,
jeordan we Argue jordan And lebron all over. Again that
that that's all this. Is different times speak to, different different.
Sensitivities you're, right you know What i'm, saying and that's
how people draw these. LISTS i can understand him being,
upset but at the same, time it's all, subjective you
know What i'm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Saying and when you meet the people that typically make these,
lists they aren't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Legit ain't know a The they not seeped enough in
the culture that really have these conversations with much less
give any validity then that. SHIP i don't get these
people no, way just because they say they listen to
a bunch of music, shit a bunch OF r AND b.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
TOO i.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
CAN'T i ain't finishing the act LIKE i can sing
or judge people who can't. SING i can't even home.
Shit all, Right, bud we better close it out on.
This we got our final segment of the. Day it's
time FOR q AND. A, okay here we, GO q
AND a. Baby Uh Joe Bombo's appalon's, Playbook, Bun this

(01:02:28):
was for, You. Bun B when are we going to
get A KENDRICK ugk? Collapse that's a good. Question i've
not been able to really have a relationship With. Kendrick
that's for somebody THAT i literally have not bumped. Into
of all the people in hip, Hop i've never bumped into.
Him but that's not surprising Because kindred don't really socialize

(01:02:48):
like that outside of you, know his homeboys IN la
and people that he records. With it's not somebody that
you'll see At Rolling loud or Or coachella or something like,
that or at somebody's release party or you, know A
New jordan release or something like. That you just don't
socialize like, that you know What i'm. Saying so there's
no relationship to even extending the. AWFUL i wouldn't even

(01:03:10):
know how to got the email an amazing, RAPPER i love.
IT i always want to rap with the best, people
you know What i'm, Saying so anybody that's considered one
of the best that the studio is always. Open hugs
nine seven three, Said, bun do you think they'll bring
the comments back? Then, well they are. Now they are

(01:03:31):
looking to bring a W nba team back To. HOUSTON
i know they're thinking of, that BUT i don't know
if they would call that team the. Comments i'm not
sure who owns that name in that. Way i'm not
sure The rockets ownership if that's something that transfers from
owner to owner or how that. Works BUT i, MEAN
i think it would be great for the. CITY i
think the city would come all the way. Out but
you got to, understand if you decide to call a

(01:03:54):
W nba team the, comments you got to have the
best of the best on that, team cause y'all have
arguably the best lords ever n W nba. Bass, yeah
you Had, coop you Had Sheryl, swoops you Had Tina. Thompson,
oh y'all would. Loaded that's why you won four. Straight
that's was the hometown Hero. God, yes the recipes we now,

(01:04:17):
had we had that. Squad it's never been as dominated
team as that team. Was four p, right yep four.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
The first four.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Pray Farz New jersey, said let's bring In Mike jones
From houston for His houston. Opinion anyone got his? Number
mike is going to come on in the very near
future and guess what come back and we'll ask.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Him and his number ain't. Changed he still got that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Number Kipper Norwood junior, SAID unc and bun be my,
question how Many Super bowls Would Peyton manning have if
he was quarterback for The patriots And Tom brady was
the quarterback for The. Coats that's a good question because
you've got to think of the drive That tim came in. With.

(01:05:05):
Correct there's a big difference between getting drafted here at
the top and getting drafted at the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Bottom both of those put a fire under, you but
for different.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Reasons. Correct and, ALSO i think Initially peyton might have
had a little bit more knowledge of the game and
naturally fell into that leadership, quality WHEREAS i, don't you,
Know tom was the leader of the locker, room but
never the leader of the. Team peyton had power in

(01:05:34):
his early. Years tom gradually gained that power and knew
how to utilize it a little bit. Different and then
he Had belichick, too, right and that's a whole different
type of, distance that's a whole different. Animal But peyton
never had a coach like that that had been kind
of control Because peyton really had to. Control peyton ran,
Practice crayton ran the two, Minutes payton ran, everything and so.

(01:06:00):
Different was Never brady never had you, know LIKE i,
Know i'm, sharing and different responsibilities create different. People, absolutely
there's a big difference of what's expected from the big
brother than the little.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Brother. Correct you know What i'm Saying, YEP i absolutely
know what you're.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Saying. BULL i was fun, There. BROT i enjoyed. It
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(01:06:37):
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Everything he didn't dust, any he didn't dug any.

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