Nightcap - Hour 2: Unc and Ocho react to Danny Green questioning Lakers Future, & Dak still developing in year 10! - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Danny Green respectfully questioned the direction of the franchise moving
forward with an agent Lebron James at the hell, Lebron,
who has the player option this summer, hasn't yet made
a decision. It's better off elsewhere if the Lakers and
ten on winning a title in the near future with
Luca Dante's to build around. According to Green, I think
they're explosive offensively, but I think they lack a lot defensively.

(00:37):
I don't know how many years he has left longer.
It's just really hard to win a championship when your
best player is forty years old.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Next year, Lebron is going to be forty one.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
He can still average, you know, thirty twenty something points,
but I just don't see them winning a championship with
that formula right now.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
You agree and disagree to Whight. Yeah, it's pretty tough.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
He's trying to get braced her to get rights to
the league next So.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
You think Lebron is gonna play a couple of So
you think this is this upcoming year won't be Lebron's
last year?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
No, what if I can play till fifty Lebron played
to you fifty.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Man, I think. I think being able to make history
and playing with both of your sons.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
And that got to be one of the biggest accomplishments,
one of the greatest achievements as a father. What a
basketball player, it doesn't have It doesn't happen often.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I mean, the the what we get to go back
to is King Griffy Senior and King Griffy Junior. Now
we saw Lebron Lebron Senior Lebron Junior, and now you
know you have two sons in the in the NBA.
But for me, I'm looking at him. I don't think
twenty three seasons. I mean he's still averaging twenty four
eight to eight. I think in order for Lebron to

(01:53):
like it's like, man, I'm out of here, he's gonna
have to be somewhere around nineteen twenty twenty four eight.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I mean, dude, the dude made the second team all
the NBA.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Don't know players don't normally retired Dwhite make your first,
second or third all the NBA and say you know what,
I might of douce this and you got fifty two
million coming to you, Well, he just.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
He need to go back to Cleveland. What if I'm Cleveland.
But here's the thing, Dwight, he gotta teach.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Y'all know how I feel about Lebron, But why would
I trade my twenty something players for a forty one
year old guy that's only got maybe two years maybe
a year two years left.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
He gonna put Cleveland back up there like they was.
Everybody gonna be in Cleveland. And then do you remember
how he put him?

Speaker 2 (02:40):
He put him back up there, and then when he left,
he put him back down there.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
No, but he got he gotta teach Dunna the how
to win, So he gotta teach how the win. So
I just believe he went home. Go ahead and show
the boys how to win, maybe winning the Tiaway Cleveland again.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Gosh, yeah, he can go home.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
You need to let Luca have La Man.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Let him get another big in there, come on so
he can hoop and go Bron.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Lebron don't want to leave La. You know how Lebron
love La. I Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Go ahead and.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Cooper Flag reportedly made twenty eight million dollars in NIL,
while they do say he had a thirteen million dollar
deal from New Balance and a fifteen million dollar deal
with Fanatics.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Go back, go back for two more years into the
to the.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Stock go up in the league, some more, go back
to college for three more two, three more years.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
No, I'm trying to get because because all he did
was feed up that process to get to that three
hundred and eighty million dollar bag, you need.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
The money that for his first contract, right.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
No, I'm saying that that first extension, the rookie extension
that you can get, it's that things gonna be over
two hundred million.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
All right.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
So if he's stayed two more years when at Duke,
at least one championship, he gonna get at least one
hundred ms off college, and then when he go to
the league, the salary cap gonna be hire for rookies,
he gonna make five I want to get I want
to get this.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I'm gonna gona get this. I'm gonna get this right now,
I can go and get this. I made that twenty
eight million.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
I'm good. Now. Let me come on and get this
Gatorade money. Let me get this.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Hey, if somebody want me to do a podcast, I
already got a new back.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Oh yeah, I finla get this. I mean about he
hes gonna be a billionaire. Before he finished his rookie contract.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
All these guys you look at shake and signed four
years at two ninety four this year or he can
wait to go five for three eighty. All these guys
gonna do a billion in contracts.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Man.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
This is not real money. Man, this is crypto curse.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
And they playing ain't I'll take some of that too,
right now.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
They playing this ain't real money. They just talking find
the word. They just come up with five hundred ms
to just give somebody. This is not real We in
a simulation.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Hell ay, see Dwight, See Dwight. You should have you
should have been born like ten years later. You'd have
been right here right boom what you right?

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Oh Joe? I mean too right? They yok is in
line three years to twenty one.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Three years to twenty one.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
He can go by all the horses in the world
if you want to and racel go ahead.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Uh, Dwight, We're gonna get you out here on this one.
Tell us mobrow what you're doing with Sports Illustrated For
the finals.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
All right, So for the finals, we're having a SI
Sports Illustrated event where we're gonna predict the finals. We're
gonna be going against a lot of these, uh the
h influencers. It's gonna be some Hall of famers versus
the influencers and a lot of the influencers and the YouTubers,
and they feel like they know a lot about basketball

(05:58):
and sports and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
So we're gonna do an event against these guys.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
So are you are you guys picking game the game?
Excuse me, game the game or you're picking the series
game of the game and the series? Okay, yes, okay, yes,
So yeah, y'all be on the lookout for that.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Man.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
I want to tell y'all who I got tonight.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
You know I've been Yeah, yeah, make sure you guys
catch the White Pod podcast above the Rim with DH
twelve Working to find you on I G and Twitter.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
I am at Dwight Howard. That's my uh my ig,
my Twitter is Dwight Howard too.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
And yeah, above the podcast above the Rim with DH twelve. Yes, Dwight,
thank you man, appreciate it. Hey, before we go, how
the farm doing?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
If you notice? But he got a farm? You know,
we go organic this or get what what do you
got growing?

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Dwight?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Also at my house, I have I grow up my
house suicide haven't big guarden in my house. I have
a squash, egg, flat bell pepper, tomatoes, apples.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Uh, that ain't no bullshit. That's some real stuff. I
got water feelings, I got some flowers. I got a
basy what you can do?

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Go on some flower for you some flower dudes, not dude,
but I do.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
This is all the stuff I have in my house.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Me and my dad we actually doing this to chickens
right now because you know they're having this egg shortage.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, people you got well, my dad
got guinea, you got rolled out of red.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
You what you got?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
So you know all the country names. All I know
is chickens. All I know is miss Winters. You got Brudy,
you got pulling from what you got your dye? What
you got going on? You gotta ask my dad to names. Man,
he got the names. I just okay.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
I'm like Pop's many share things straight for you boy.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
So all right.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Bab actually checked out the Wife's podcast on YouTube above
the rim with d H follow him on I G
and Twitter. Dwight, thank you for joining us, man, all
the best of luck to congratulations to get.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Selected to the Hall of Fame. Man, so much. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Man, Oh, Joe Man, I appreciate y'all having me on
the show.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
I love y'all.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Man, triple salute, man, thank you all right, ject you
Dwight all right.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Oh, I see I grow a guarden.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
I bet I can grow a garden better than you,
O Joe, who I can grow a garden better than
O Joe.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
I mean, I doubt that because I used to I
used to plan.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I used to plan my grandma tulips back in the day.
I used to plan on tulips. I used to plan on.
I used to do a tomatoes. I'm gonna just slide
with that one on Joe, what them two lips?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
But okay, I ain't gonna sit down drop let the slabs, hey,
I just that's what.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I'm just gonna let that slab I'm I said, listen,
I know we talked about gardening, but you said garden.
But I used to be her I was. I used
to be her gardener. I was her assistant in her garden.
You know cool my grandma man.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh Joe, I still uh uh. I'm trying to find
this this picture because I had a I don't know
if I can find it now.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah, I mean listen to picture.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Hey, I listen. I used to grow lives, to grow lots,
used to grow carrots. I don't want no garden watermelon.
I was gonna take you what.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
I grow peanuts, I grow sweet potatoes. Yes, look at it, hey,
check this out. I'm gonna send it ash.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
M.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I like that garden idea. Hold on, hey, what you
know what I should do? I should start me your
guard man.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Oh lord, have mercy. Why did you just got any ideas?

Speaker 4 (10:13):
What you think? No, listen, I want to be a
young I want to be a content creator. You heard me. Yeah,
but I'm not talking about regular content.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
I'm talking about like like content where it's like.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Like almost life and this ship, like there's a chance
I can.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I can.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
It could be my last time feeling content if things
don't go right, Like I want to be that type
of content creator because nobody has. Listen, everybody's creating content.
You know, it's funny they playing around people.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Like I'm gonna do like like different stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Like like bullfighting, like with no with no, with no
swords or.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Nah, you can't do that. People don't like that, they
will they want said no, I just said it without
the bullfighting. Yes, the batter door. I'm just the matador
with no with no weapon.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I got that's from my that's her name, Granny, from
my grandma'st Hey fifteen years I had it.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Hey No, Yes, in Atlanta in my tub. You take
a bath, thab I.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Know, I know what I'm getting ready to do.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I'm what you do. I'm gonna be.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I'm gonna start. I'm gonna be a content creator right
in the first. My first video is gonna be me
with a herd of bison at Yellowstone Park, running with
the bison.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
You can't roll with the bison. They advise you to
be without they will put you in jail.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
That's why it's called content. I bail out, you bail
me out.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Don't do that, Oh Joe, it ain't worth it.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Fi Fire. You could create content. Look look at them streamers.
They create content and don't even put it life in James,
that's not life.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
But I want to create life or death content where
I could get hurt, like really really bad, like it
makes it.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
You talk to somebody the girl in Miami.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Nah, you don't really want to that.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
You don't really want the content I want.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I want you No, I want, I want, I want
life and death situations, content creating with nature.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Oh okay, yeah like that.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Well you take off, okay, I wish you the best.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
And created some content something a little, a little less dangerous.
Cowboys head coach Brian Schottenheimer says Dak is still in
developmental phase. I think Dak is in the developmental phase,
and that sounds crazy for a guy who's played as much,
But there are things were tweaking with that. Dak is
entering his tenth NFL season.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
What you thinking.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I mean, I'm trying to understand developmental phase. At what
point in year ten is something developmental at this point,
especially when it says, well, it's not the same offense,
it's the same offense from last year.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
If I'm not mistaken, right, nah, I guess he's gonna
implement his because that Mike McCarthy's offense.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
If that's the case, then he is in the development
of state because he having to learn the new offense,
all the all the new nuances and all the intricacies
of that new offense. So I totally understand. I mean,
that gives me better context. So I mean, that's understandable.
That's understandable. I'm excited for dak Man. I'm excited for

(13:22):
dak I just hope they're ready to I just hope
they're ready to use use pick the right way. Ceedee
Lamb is gonna get his regardless, especially when he plays
in the slot. He's when he was Ceedee Lamb is
in the slot. It creates mismatches regards to who they're playing.
It doesn't matter who they're planning. And we know what
pick he can do on the outside. You can take
a short and hit his head off the gold post.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Or he can go deep.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Well, yeah, you gotta. I mean, look, they should be
really explosive in the passing game. We're going to see
Kenneth protected because you know, you lose. I mean, Zach
Martin is retired. The offensive line wasn't It was kind
of shaky last year Old Joe. So let's see what
they what how have they uh shored up that?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
The Running Game Blue had some really good games, So
it's gonna be it's gonna be. Uh, it's gonna be
very interesting to see what the Cowboys are offensively as
far as protection. If we don't look, oh, you can
have all all the guys you want, but you're gonna
protect your quarterback, ain't gonna do you.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
No good at all at all. That goes for the Cowboys,
they goes for my Bengals. They goes to the goddamn
Chiefs down there in Kansas City. Yeah, and who are
well hell that the Eagles don't gotten in the world
about for a long time.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I mean, the Eagles got the best offensive light of
football though. Yeah, they got the best defense light of
football too. Yeah, but but I'm looking at it. I mean,
you think about it. Look at the right tackle and
the left tackle. You got Lane Johnson and my Latta.
You got your center, you replace it with Justson Kelsey,
and you replace Jason Kelsey and that guy he's a
damn near All Pro. But he goes to the Pro Bowl.
And you look at Dixon mh one of your best guards.

(14:57):
I mean, so they good. They set yeah, for the
foresee of the future at the offensive line position. Should
that be embarrassed that Brian Schottenheimer said that he's in
the developmental state phase.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Absolutely not, because if you learn in a new offense,
it's completely different and you have to rewire and relearn everything.
Even though you've played the game for ten years, so
saying he's in a developmental state age at this time
where they n ota.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
It's acceptable, acceptable because that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
It's a time for you to develop and learn everything
that comes with that office.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
It's going to be completely different than what you learned before.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Es Ben Jeremy Filer reports that Kyle Pitts would be
open to a trade even though he's not necessarily looking
to be moved and the Falcons aren't aggressively shopping him.
So I checked with the source who said that, look,
if Atlanta gets the right counter deal for Kyle Pits,
it could very well could come together. This is not
a situation where he's questing a trade, but if he

(16:01):
has a chance to go maybe to a better offense
where he's more featured. He's sort of a third or
fourth wheel right now in Atlanta. Could this and could
be something that he's open to.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I like it, And he wouldn't be a third or
fourth wheel if he hadn't gotten hurt. You have to
understand after the A C L he has he hasn't
been the same cow Pits we saw at Florida. He
just hasn't. And if if you watch him close. There's
a there's a slight limp when he when he when
he runs, there's a slightening if you can tell exactly
which need you know? Uh, he he towards a c
l Uh. It's unfortunate. As great as he is, he's

(16:39):
still very good now that he's recovered somewhat from that
from that injury, I would like to see him in
a different offense where he can be featured more.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Well, yeah, yeah, I think that.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I mean where that would be, I'm not sure. That's
the problem. That's the that's the problem.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
I think he'd be great in Kansas City.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Oh that's nast see a player like Kyle Pitts of
his caliber before he got injured. If he hadn't got injured,
we always talked about Hockinson.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
And then then the bride. Yeah, Bowers, listen.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
He was eons above everyone I just named eons above.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
The only thing that set him back was that injury.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Understand how special he is. How many of those dudes
I just name can go up and go line up
out there receiver and.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
A whole lot of them, I mean, you know, they're
they're versatile now, But this guy had moved he had
wiggle Like you said, he could run, he could run
the route, he can run the sland, he can run
out and can run a comeback dick. And so yeah,
he was he was special. And but now he's two
years removed from that a c L. Now, hen his
fifth year, isn't it? Or is his fourth year? Thanks

(17:50):
in this.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
It should be four. I think it's her fourth for
kinnor if I'm not.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Mistaken, he gonna be all right there good.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
This is fifty or fourth year?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Because uh, because I don't think they picked up his
fifth year option. Little that's a little motivation right there.
It is little motivation. One two, three, four five it's
fifty year and hey listen, and I hope, I hope
Michael Penning Jr. Knows they didn't pick up that fifty
year option. And throwing the ball every play on purpose,

(18:28):
So we have a hell of a year so we
can get paid in off season. Oh y'all, what's that
Falcons undrafted free edge of Kobe Bryant spelled co b
e E. Kobe Bryant went after Lamar Jackson on snapchat.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Take a look at the picture.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Is that Harden?

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
And what Buddy's doing what I mean, great regular season,
not so much in the postseason.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
That's the rookie did that.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, undrafted free agent.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
But what's what's up with buddy?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
He ain't I mean, listen, that is that that's that
might be something personal. Maybe that's some personal We don't
know about her, bro, Bro, I don't know. Look you
already know. I only know when Kobe Bryant rest is soul, yes, sir,
and he they spelled it like the state.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
So I don't know this young man. And he might
turn out to be a phenomenal player. I hope he does, yes, sir,
But it's a little early for you to be to
make talking this kind of noise. Now you need to
be past, sir, Tad. You need to be Jay Ram,
You need to be one of them big dogs Stingley Jr.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Okay, you want to take a shot. Okay, you're gonna
get that.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Come on now, well hold on, hold on, he got
you got my attention. Now you got Kobe Bryant. Uh, Bro,
you ain't gonna be paying no attention. We got bigger
fish to be worried about this. Hell, hold on, but no,
we got bigger fister. But if you take shots like this, right,
you guess that, boy? So now from now you've got
now you got my attention. So I'm trying to see
what you like on that field.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Well, he I sure hope they play the Ravens so
we can find out. Hold on what position you play
your corner?

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Right? Who here?

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Corner?

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
This man put James hardened head on Lamar jacksonbody with
the numb and everything.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Okay, who we played for?

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Unk? The Hawk? I mean the Falcons?

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Okay? They the schedule out Do the Ravens play the
Foulers this year?

Speaker 3 (20:45):
I don't know the Foulons play the Ravens.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna call mad Finna call
a J. Terrell and asked A D. Terrell if Kobe
Bryant really liked that. Yeah, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta,
I gotta watch some film on Young Bull.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Normally, when you talk like this, so you you know
you throw a little shade, that means.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
That means you like that.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Man.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
That's a big old tree. That ain't no little shade.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know what he was thinking
with this one right here?

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Listen, you I mean, you know what he was thinking.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
But but you know, people trying to people trying to
figure out why he did it.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I don't don't either. That's why the first thing I
said is maybe this is something personal that we.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Don't know about.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Well, he should go to the Lamar because most of them,
most of the time when you're young, like that, coming into.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
The NFL, your respect, your elders, especially the great was
like that. Yeah, I bet I did tell you, man
them ain't have no no respect. Nah, not like it.
That's why I guess I don't. I don't, man, I
would have never.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
It's just hard. Well, go ahead, I mean, look that's
that ain't. Look, we love the First Amendment. He has
a right to say what they wants to say. Hey, bro,
you have to go out there and back that up.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Now.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Oh yeah, so now you're putting Now you put the
pressure on yourself now too, I mean.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Right now you got to alligate a my mouth now, I
don't let don't have no humming bird ass.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Mm hmmmm, not pay at now, gotta use that.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Oh they played the Ravens. They played the Ravens next year. No, Lamar,
be don't got about that. They need to get this thing. Oh,
they need to get this going.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Now.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Hey, they say hey, Labar probably say hey, Harbard, y'all
put this put him on the preseason schedule.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
And I play it, El Jackson, I play it, hey.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Man, Labar probably look, hey, you know one of Lamar
boys or somebody probably siting tohim, say hey, don what's
up with no boy? Lamar probably like, whoo, look what
I sent you and one one thing bout one thing
by eight.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
He don't talk, he ain't gonna respond, he ain't for
the answer.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
So I know what I'm saying. He's like, he probably
like what who what? Who?

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Who?

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Who is this?

Speaker 4 (23:02):
I just I told you what he's trying to do.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Get get your name out there. You do something, you
do something, you ain't got no Bites's no different than
that reporter, that reporter with Yeah, the reporter, just listen,
throw your name out there, throw the bait, throw the fish.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Everybody gonna bite. Okay, boom not ask Now the cameras
on me.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Now, I guess he was at Kansas last year.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Oh Joe, huh, he was at Kansas.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
He could play college ball at Kansas last year he
would like that.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I don't know what did Travis do well? I mean
he was undrafted, so I mean, I don't know if
he has decent speed.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I don't, I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Hey, Chack, Chack, Kobe Bryant like that. Let me know, now,
let me know.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Let me know. No, I need to have a Keeves number.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I called a Keev to Leeba or Chris Harris Junior
asked them they went to Kansas, they would know more.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Wait they jay Hawks? Yeah wait, how could he get
out of He ain't going to Texas?

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Mm hm he with with the Kansas Chris Aris Junior, Oh, Chris, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what. I
don't know what the boy was thinking. But I don't
know what UH prompt him because Lamar don't really do
no talking. I mean every once I've seen I've probably
seen Lamar at more at like fashion events, chilling as
opposed to see him doing anything else. I know, I
think I don't know if he still has it. I

(24:31):
know he used to have his his camp, his football camp.
Lamar laid's really really low.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Crazy low bro.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
So I I don't I don't know what what what
what prompted buddy to do this?

Speaker 4 (24:47):
I don't know. I tell him telling you it's something personal.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I'm telling you, we just we just don't know about
it because nobody takes it's from.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Is he from Florida?

Speaker 4 (24:54):
He' he from the crib.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
That's what I'm asking ass looking for it now. I
don't know where problem away from Evergreen, Alabama. I don't think.
I don't think. I don't think they had no dealings.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Ojo, Listen, I know he must be like that, That's
all I know.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Anytime you take a shot like that, that high, you
got to be able to back it up with your player.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
So I know he must. He got to be that boy.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah, I know, y'all. No, I don't know about all that, Ojo. Yeah.
I mean, we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Well, look, I'm not I'm not making light of him
being an undrafted Fridgier because all I'm saying, you give
me a helmet and shoulder pass and then I'll show
you what I'm capable of doing. Yeah, yep, I look
at it like that. So all that other stuff I don't.
I don't get called him where he was this he
was that, Uh, I don't. I don't know, Chad, I
don't know. I wish I knew. Maybe Chad, y'all can
chime into the chat and says, well, he said Lamar

(25:48):
said something about this, or or he been going at
Lamar for a minute. I don't know, So I don't
I don't want to speculate getting a conjecture in you window.
All I know is that it seems from where I'm sitting. Yeah,
I don't know how I ought you feel, but it
seems like from where I'm sitting he took an unprompted
shot at at Lamar.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah, and everybody.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Knows what what that means.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
That means that he James Hard is sensational in the
regular season become postseason not so much.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Hey, now now you got that you got that target?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Now? Yeah, every every every time you at seven y'alls,
every time you impressed.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Now this is gonna come up. So you you know
you got who or you got to come to play? Right?

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Oh? Yeah, fast, for sure, you have to play anyway.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
But look, because there are a lot of guys, there
are a lot of guys in this league that have
the utmost respect from Lamar. Yeah, all of them, and
so when everybody take when you take a shot at him,
they're like, bro, this man don't bother nobody and a
lot of people, you know, there's something that feel like, man,
he should have been a three time MVP. They ribbed
him for that, so they like I said, I don't
know the kid, so I wish him the best.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Uh uh, but hey, he talking like that.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
He might he might be like that, don't you. Yeah,
I bet we're gonna find out. He's gonna have I
the one thing I know who he is now. So
all I want to see is if the memes and
the jokes match up with the player, because it got
to be. It got to be balanced. It can't be
one of the other.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
It got to be. Got to make sense.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
It absolutely has to make sense.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
And especially like Kobe Bryant, even though it's football, you
got you got to represent.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I
to They damnew Kobe Bryan obviously.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I mean there have been a lot, but I mean
there are a lot of Kobe's. There's a lot of
Kobe's since that Kobe that burst onto the scene. Uh
at Lord Meridian and Philly and drafted by the uh
the Hornets and traded to the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
See their sports rank the twelve NFL teams most likely
to win their first Super Bowl this season. Number one
is the Bills, number two of the Lions, number three
of the Bengals, number four of the Texans, five Chargers,
six Viikes, seven Cardinals, eight Jags, nine Falcons, ten Titans,
eleven Pathers, twelve Browns.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
You like the order, yeah, I mean the order is
understandable simply. I see we're at four and they have
the lines in front of us. I think because we
start so goddamn slow. We start so slow, and we're
climbing towards the end of the season, spramling, trying to
get ourselves out of hole where we haven't even got

(28:46):
a chance to consistently, consistently be in the talks of
being a contention and playoff contention each and every year
when in division, and taking care of business early in
the season so.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
We don't have anything to worry about a team that we're.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Mentioned take care of business every single fing year and
at least in contention and have a chance when it
comes to playoffs. Lions, the Bills, Who who's the third team.
I'm Bill's Lions, Bengals, Texans, Chargers, Vikings. Huh we were
the thirteam, yes, okay, okay, we got we're good, but

(29:23):
we're third because of what I just said though.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
That damn slow start man, Damn we gotta fix that.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Man.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Well, y'all didn't fix it soon enough. So I'm gonna
need that need what my daddy records? You don't mind
handing it over to me, do you? You're talking to me? Yeah,
I'm talking to you. Wait, hold on, you say you

(29:55):
need your your daddy's records?

Speaker 4 (29:56):
What would that mean?

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I ain't never heard that before. That's oh, that's some
country ship. Hey, what do you call it your daddy's records?

Speaker 3 (30:04):
That's yeah, I w by daddy records.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Okay, I like that's that's a nice slang right there, bro?

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Can I get that on?

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Hey, I'm you know what, Do me a favor? Do
me a favor?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
What's that you got?

Speaker 1 (30:17):
PayPal, zell Apple, pay cash, app, Venmo? All you have
to do right now? I would let the chat see me.
I want the chat to see me. Send you your money,
I send it right now.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
If you're down, I'm gonna get it. I'll tell you
what I'm gonna get, Shelley.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
I'm gonna get Shelley's I think Shelley got paid pal.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Okay, okay, okay, finally, there we go.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
We got somewhere, There we go.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Boston sports talk radio host and former New England Patriots
quarterback Scott Zolac says it's possible that the Pats could
release Stefan Diggs before he ever plays it down for
the team. Speaking on ninety eight to five Sports of
Zolac said the following about the potential of the Patriots
cutting Digs.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
I came to this show yesterday with.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
The opinion, with the opinion, not an opinion, but the
knowledge that is on the table that's being thought of.
And it's just not the boat. It's just not the boat.
There's some other things that I've heard that put some
things in the question. Are you all in here?

Speaker 4 (31:24):
O Joe?

Speaker 3 (31:25):
This is what he said.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I came to this show yesterday with the opinion, not
an opinion, but be not but the knowledge that is
on the.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Table a whole bunch of nothing. That's what I say,
O Joe.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
But you know, when you go to places like New England,
you know O Joe, you know how you got to move.
You can't move like you can. I know it's the
off season, but you can't move like you were there.
As a matter of fact, I don't even want to
talk about it, talk about when you were there.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Hold on, hold on, Bill Bellichai, ain't that No, it
is the same system Bill, Mike. Mike Rabel doesn't, doesn't
doesn't work with a hard hand the way Bill does.
Now we talk about the players, coach. Now you got
Mike in there, it's a different ball game. I'm sure
he doesn't run that mother for like a military system. Hey, Chad, Hey,

(32:22):
I swear for God, my right hand of God. If
anybody in the chat has seen the movie Full Metal Jacket,
if you see him full Metal Jack, I know you
saw Full Metal Jacket, right, Yes, remember the beginning of
the movie. Yes, yes, I've never been to the army,
never been to the Navy, never been to a marine.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
But the way the drill sergeant was in that movie
is what it felt like.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
The structure, the discipline where everything had to be right,
the cursing that it didn't matter who he was, who
you were, everybody was suspendable. That's how Bill that's the
kind of ship, type of ship Bill ran.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
This is what Mike Rabel said. He wasn't happy with
the video either.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
If something we're aware of, and obviously we want to
make great decisions all that off the field. Any conversations
that I've had with Stefan will remain between him and
I and the club.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
So I would ask you again, oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
If it was no big deal, do you believe the
head coach would have said what he said?

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Conversation will remain.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
He had no choice but to say something because everybody
made a big dealer they got there.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Think it was no, no, no, no, no no. I
don't worry about what the fans say. I ain't got
nothing to do with that. I run the club.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
You have to because that's the that's the era we're in.
We're in a social media era. So if there's that video,
does Bill Belichick ever respond? Did Bill Belichick ever respond?
He didn't respond to Mike.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
They are two completely different coaches.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
There are different coaches. But where do you think he
learned how to coach? What do you think you learn
from what you're around?

Speaker 4 (34:00):
I have a question, yes that went to be a
head coach? How did they do.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
I'm not saying I'm late at what he's done in business.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
But here's the thing. You want to have as few
of distractions. Teams that have few distractions, those are the
teams that normally win.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Not saying always.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Because the Cowboys of the nineties they were so talented
they had distractions in one regardless. But the question, look
here for Scott Zolac to say what he said. He said,
this is not an opinion. Who is Scott zola He
calls play by play, He does color for the Patriots. Okay,

(34:44):
he was there when you was there. Okay, all right?
He said, this is not he said with the opinion,
not an opinion, but the knowledge that it is on
the table.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Now, why we have said that if it's not the case.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
They say a lot of things. They say, they say
a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
So you think he's making this up.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
No, I just said I take it with a great
as salt. Okay, can I ask your question?

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, who's the best receiver at wide receiver room?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Right now? That is how they do it in New England.
It's the Patriot way.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
It ain't You don't even have the players to have
the patrioteight anymore. You can't move it. Number two have
it is gone. Ray Lewis is not there. Terrell sus
a reeder. Not in Baltimore. You play like a raven
different you haven't. Lamar Jackson, Tom Brady and Lamar Jackson
did not fit the culture in Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I don't care how great Labarria is. Lamar Jackson did
not fit the culture for what's in Baltimore that was
long established. Way to fort Lamar Jackson said, put in Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Wait, I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
I'm talking about from a skill set, Drake macmore. I'm
talking about the in whatch you do think, o Joe?
The military. First of all, it's not people that go
to the military the state. It's been established. The military
run regardless of who's there. You set the standard, you
do things a certain way. I'm not listening. I don't

(36:17):
really know Stefan Diggs. I know he's a phenomenal receiver.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I know he's coming off with an injury, and I
do believe he can help the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Yeah, he's the best receiver there. What do you mean believe, o.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Jo? Was he the best receiver in Buffalo?

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:34):
And then let him go. Was he was he? He
was one of the best receivers in Houston?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yes, but Nego Collin was that boy?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Nego Collins?

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Damn near top five?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
But go ahead, let me ask you a question. Was
Tyreek Hill the best receiver in Kansas City?

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Hell?

Speaker 6 (36:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Was Randy Moss the best receiving in Minnesota? In Oakland?
In New England? We know the best receiver in San Francisco?
Is he the best receiver in Philly? Was he the
best receiver in Dallas?

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (37:04):
You see what I'm going with this? Yes, okay, I
see okay.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
But also also, everybody doesn't have to move like a
goddamn robot.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
It's the off season. He's on the boat now. Everybody
don't want to live like that fucking boring.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
O Joe you you you killing the messenger?

Speaker 4 (37:25):
No, no, no, no, no, stay with me. You talking, listen,
listen to me, save with me real quick.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
When you operating a different manner, you stay with me.
I love you to death. You operating a different manner
from New England. They have a certain way to do things.
Everybody's not living life born like a fucking robot.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Everybody operate that way.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
He did nothing when he's on the boat, and that
that's it.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Oh Joe, listen they talking about.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
He knows he's being filmed. So whatever he's passing out
is not what people are saying it is.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I'm sure he told Rabel that it was hard, Oh Joe.
All I'm saying is is that excuse me, in certain situations,
you have to move accordingly to understand that. In the
off season that should be my free time. But you
just have to you know, you have to move a

(38:20):
certain way. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
But I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
But listen, I listen.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
We're in a different time where at a different time,
players all look different. You ain't going nowhere, you know,
my chief, Bass ain't going nowhere. I've been in mind
me all my life. I've been on the boat one
time in two thousand and I threw up. I ain't
been on the boat since, right, So, I mean, just
I'm just looking at it from a different landscape, not
definish Stefan Das at all. I'm just looking at it

(38:48):
from a different standpoint of Damn, these boys can't even
their life.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Cameras everywhere.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
You really can't do nothing. You can't know where I mean,
but you know it was like that in New England.
Oh Joe, Because guess who's still there, mister Kraft. Oh
you think he don't? You think he's on board with this?
You know how he is? Yeah, listen, they had one year, right, yes,

(39:18):
they gave they fired what's his name?

Speaker 4 (39:20):
After after come on, what's his name?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Rod Mayo? They gave him one year, you know Friday.
So now Bray was there.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
We want to turn things around fast as possible, get
all the pieces around a quarterback and Drake may you
played very well last year and they wanted to make
another leap this year, giving him all the right pieces
and players that make him job easier. Stephan Jiggs is
one of those players that makes him job easier in

(39:54):
that in that wide receiver room.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Veteran presence, very good receiver, one.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Of the better rock runners of the league despite a
cl injury. Hell, he won of the better rock runers
in league, but one motherfucking leg. Excuse me for cursing,
but I understand what happened. Steph probably won't have this
issue again, Probably won't be on these boats again, Probably won't.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Be around cameras again. But he's still will. It's the
same life he's always lived. This is this has always
been him. I'm sure you know, I know him personally,
and just what we saw isn't what it was.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Believe that, But I just think the thing is that
you have to understand where you're like, Okay, maybe they
allowed you to do that in Buffalo, allowed you to
do that as Houston, but you know when you go
to Meddical, New England, they operated on a different set
of rules. They do they and they and they really
and they really do because mister crap, you know, he

(40:47):
likes a little distraction as possible.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Uh. Even though coach Belichick.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
The patrol I guarantee you they still got to sign
up to say, even coach Belichick is gone, that Brady
is gone, they's probably still got a thing up that
says the Patriot Way, just like the Ravens have up.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Play like a raven. Yeah. Absolutely, that culture was established
a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
And the thing is is that what helped Baltimore is,
as you mentioned, Lamar came in and he bought into
that culture. Play to a standard. I'm playing. All that
other stuff don't even matter. Yeah, I played to the culture.
I played like a raven the ray lewis Is and
the rod Woodson's and and and the Terrell Suggs and

(41:29):
Ed Reed myself when I was there. There's a standard
in what you play to and it helps when you
don't have a ray Lewis and all those guys there,
but you still have a Lamar, right, And so Lamar's
job is make sure the guys that hopefully he has
another decade that he tread like little guys. I'm not
gonna be here forever, but there's a tradition here and

(41:55):
your job is to uphold that. So yeah, it's just
a different time now, Ojo, it's different. Ye, it is
really really different.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
And it is so funny. I'm not gonna go there.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
I'm not gonna go there, but we talk about you
know what, I ain't gonna do it because we talked
about the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
And you know, you know what, I'm gonna leave it alone.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Brad Holmes, Yeah, he's the general manager of the Alliance, right,
takes report of the task overpast criticism.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Oho,
I like this, I like this when you.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
Look back at those picks and those picks were not
welcomed by many in this room. You know, Dave, you
want to expect quarterback. You didn't want us to pick
Panay Suel. You know, people didn't want us to wait
to the fourth round to draft a wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
But every single move was intentional.

Speaker 6 (42:50):
I think you would expect me to be accountable when
I'm up here when things don't go right. You would
expect me to be accountable when you heard so much
negativity about our drafts, and then when I said, look,
wait till they start playing football. It'll be appreciative. When
they started playing football and people start giving them credit.

(43:14):
The negativity kind of just everybody forgot about it. I
give probably two people credit in this room that said,
you know what, I was wrong.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
I like that. I like that.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I like the fact that he can sit up there
and actually do that and let the media know that.
You guys don't know the game like I do. I
know what I'm doing when I'm in that war room.
I've studied you guys might have been y'all might be
a part of the media. You might be annlests. You
might understand the game, but you don't know it as
well as I do. That's why I'm in a position
I'm in now, picking and choosing what our team needs,

(43:49):
what our needs are, what players best fit our system.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
And he hasn't missed yet.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, Jared Efin reporter complained about the sul getting drafted
because they wanted him to take they wanted him to
take Chase.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Oh, okay, understandable.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
But listen, you didn't miss with Jamison Wiveson and a
Mom Ross, Saint Brown, no, Gil Winter.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
But you're still got some dogs.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
You got Brian Bradge, you got Jimson.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
You got arms Arnold there, Terry on Arnold, Yeah, he nice,
got him.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Hey, you get my dog to stop holding and use
his feet a little bit more. You got's gonna be
all right.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
You got Hutchison. Oh, because here's the thing. When guys missed,
Oh you could have had this guy, You could have
had that guy.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Quick to write that in the paper. Well write that
in the paper. How good Brad Holmes has been with
his drafts like and he hasn't missed.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Hey, you have a question? Was he there when they drafted?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Is it not?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Or Nett?

Speaker 4 (45:01):
There's another there's another there's another DV that I really
like from Ohio State that went that.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
I think he got drafted to to Oh you talk
about I really liked him in college.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
What's the guy named? He went to Atlanta?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
He was, Yeah, I know about nah Huda Jeff Cuter, No,
Jeff for Cutera.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Hey, I like the young boy. Where Jeff o' couter?

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Now?

Speaker 4 (45:23):
Anybody know anybody in the chat know whe Jeffy is?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Now?

Speaker 4 (45:26):
I really like I really.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
It's like I think like he's third or fourteen.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
No, it's only like your your four, you're three or
four for him?

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Okay, Hey, I like I like him. Man, Hey that
guy damn Brian Bridge.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
What's what team is he on now? Because he got traded?

Speaker 4 (45:53):
I think they traded him.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah, but where is he? Yeah he got drafted to Detroit.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Though he got drafted to Detroit, he was in Atlanta,
he was in Houston.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Now he's on Minnesota. I said he's on his third
or fourteen now damn, yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
I wonder why.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah, I don't know what you was talking about, Like, yeah,
he's not there, No, he's on I thought I know
he's not there. I'm just I'm just saying what I'm saying.
But I knew he was on his third or fourth team.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Okay okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, Yeah, I like him.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
I like oh Joe. Obi J said he never wanted
to leave the Giants. I never ever wanted to leave
New York Giants. The reason you heard me talking about
what I was going on was because I was pissed
because where I come from in college, if we lost
one game.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
I'll see this was over.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
This was the organization I got drafted to. They believed
in me.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
So if the Giants went and won the Super Bowl,
I would be happy. But deep down inside I wanted
to be the one, no question, So it's definitely you'll
always hold that. But then someone like me went the
Rams wanted to who was still you just want back?
Odell has bounced around between five teams since joining the
NFL in twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, Mandell Man was don't realize O yo, you and
I both I played on two teams.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
You played on two teams. You don't realize how good
you got it.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
You.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Everybody always thinks it's better somewhere else, and I can.
I'm gonna have so many more catches and I'm gonna
have so many more yards. I'm gonna have so many
more touchdowns and everything that you need is right where
you are.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Yeah, you know what. But he was in a situation
where he didn't want to leave. He didn't want to
leave on he was he was, he was perfect. He
was perfect in New Well.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
You have to you have to conduct oyo.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
You can't say I don't want to leave this job,
and I conduct myself in a matter of which they're
gonna get rid of me.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Oh yo, damn, are you right right? I'm thinking, don't don't,
don't scream at me. I'm saying no. But I'm saying
he said they didn't want to leave.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
But do you I mean, Odell could have conducted himself
in a way and they wouldn't have.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
He put him in, He put him and he backed
him in a corner.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. He unbelievable, It was man.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Odell's first four years was electrifying as you gonna see
any receiver.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
You go back and look at his numbers, You look
at the about of yards, about of touchdowns, the highlight plays.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
He was sensational, absolutely actually baby box office baby.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
And he was tailor made for that because of his personality.
He in New York perfect.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Why would you bra?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
He could have been Michael Straighthead, He could have been
gen I mean he had I mean he had New
York eating out the palm of his hand.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
And that's the that's the perfect scenario. But you know
it's funny.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
I think if for for Odell, if I think he's
able to reflect and look back on it now mm hmm,
he would probably change the way.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
The wait, not the way he acted on on the
not on the field. I'm talking about on the field.
Maybe some of the stuff on the sideline. Maybe some
of the stuff, yes, that we did. I think he'll
change some of that. But what he did on.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
The field, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
No, he was special. He was special.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Listen, I said it not too long. We had some
shows a while ago, I say, but he might have
been the first two hundre million dollar receiver. And this
was before they even got to the money again too.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Now that's how special in box office he was. Well,
that that's what he was trending towards.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Yeah. Oh my goodness, man, he I just that's that's
what I mean. I hate that.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Yeah, because he I promise you he gonna kick himself
because he knows he should have left the Giants. He
knows it. I mean, what what do he wasted two
years in Cleveland? Yeah, in Baltimore. Heere in Miami. The
Rams was a great pickup from He had a quarterback
to get him the ball. He had an offensive coordinator

(50:08):
that knew how to get him the ball. He had
Cooper Cup that was playing phenomenal. So when they double Cup,
he's working one on one. You remember the game he
had against Tampa because they was trying to double Cooper Cup.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
He goes for one hundred. Cooper Cup still get his hundred.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
He was playing well in the championship game against the
forty nine ers, played well in the Super Bowl, had
a touch caught the first touchdown towards knee up.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
That's the second time he had torn that knee up.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, and then always you know he broke his ankle.
I think he broke his ankle. There's only so much.
There's only so much twitch you got in your body.
Only so much twitch you got, Oh Joe, There's only
so much you got. He was phenomenal. I mean his hands,

(50:53):
his route running, his his he played a lot bigger
than his statue.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Absolutely, Hey, when you run after the catch.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
I was just I was just, Hey, what is it
about every goddamn LSU and Alabama receiver? They are phenomenal
with the ball in their hands, Phenomenal jetters Chase, Brian
Thoman Jr.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Julio Jones, Jerry, Judy, Elik neighbors, Elipe Man.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Because each one teach one, they go back and they teach,
you know, Julio and you got Calvin Ridley, and you
got Amari Cooper, and you got Waddle, and you got
Davante and you got you know, you got Judy.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Yeah, there's one thing to be able to run rouse
but then they got the other half.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
All them can run.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Roddy White, says Kyle Shanahan, told him he'd rather throw
the ball to Jacob Tammy than Roddy with the game
on the line. Shanahan told Roddy he was in the
top four option on the twenty fifteen team.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Man, Shannahan and Lyne like crazy man, we talk about
Roddy White, right, not just anybody.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
I was reaching about Roddy White, but.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
At War eighty four, huh as at Atlanta legend to
me now player I used to watch talk about right
playing Damn, Julio had ay said that for real. I
don't know that. That's what Roddy White said. Hell, I
wasn't there. Julio had two hundred and three targets. He

(52:25):
had one hundred and thirty six catches eighteen hundred and
seventy one yards, eight touchdowns. Jacob Tammy had eighty one targets,
fifty nine catches, six hundred and fifty seven yards, one touchdown.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Davonte Freeman he.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Had ninety seven targets, seventy three catches, five seventy eight yards,
three touchdowns. Roddy White had seventy targets, forty three catches,
five hundred and six yards eleven point eight yards per catch,
one touchdown.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
Well, what was this his last year? Sam?

Speaker 3 (52:57):
I think it was this last year in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Oh that I see why the numbers look like that.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Yeah, I see what I look at.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
I don't know something about I know something about Kyle.
I've known him since he was a kid, played for
his dad. He has a lot of dad. He got
a guy like Julio.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Is this guy?

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, hope Julio gets a blow because that's when the
ball will come your way. Oh, he gonna feed. Oh,
his number one receiver gonna get fat. That's the that's
the way the West Coast system work. Oh yeah, yeah,
ok most definitely look at Jerry, look at in that system.
Look at my brother and that's in that system.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
And look at look at Cooper Cup Tripper, Crown Yere,
look at pool drafting pool in the core.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Okay, boomame same thing.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, go back and look at Green Bay when it
was Antonio Freeman and all that West.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
G Hey, green green Bay still run West Coast. But
is my committee now?

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (53:58):
Now, then who's gonna have a guy? Damn there?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
What That's what Jacobe said. That's what uh uh uh
Jacobs said. We need to walk a dog. You need
one guy that you can throw the ball to and
he gonna hey, he gonna go get it. But uh,
like you know, you asked me, I don't know, I
don't know. All right, on your nine. Time for our

(54:20):
final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
And I enjoyed that football is m hm and you're
all excited.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
What hey.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
The last half of August and all of September, October,
November decemb j Web February March what uh true? Infamous
seventy three Halliburton shower curtain, All is certain under than
five triple X steps, saying of it, Nicks all the
A six data bricks got that Lapotier ready to mix

(54:55):
paces in six. Red Hood says, next, have a coaching proba.
You can't win with cad and Brunson. They need to
defend the type superstar that both to ball dominant and
suck at defense. They did not play their best game tonight.
You got twenty two from CAT eight to nineteen, all

(55:16):
four from the three. You got twenty four from OG
ten of eighteen. But cal Bridges only took nine shots.
He had fifteen points the turnovers. That defense wasn't good tonight.
Now the defense let him down tonight. They shot fifty
four percent. The Pacers shot fifty four percent from the floor.

(55:38):
They shot fifty two percent from the three. You let
the team shoot fifty and they shoot thirty, and you
let him shoot They shot thirty three and they make
seventeen of them.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Yeah, you're probably gonna lose. And you know they want
to run.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
They run, make or miss, and now you turn the
ball over so they're out again. Look at disparity look
at the disparity in this game on points off turnovers.
Look at the points and points in transition. It's hard
to win like that when you lose both of those.
A damn spell said, okay, see, finish sweet Pacers. Pacers

(56:16):
have depth, but they have no bigs to contain Chet
and Hartenstein.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
The Pacers haven't had play.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Pacers also haven't played a team with wings like okay see,
I'll agree, okay See is going to take a halley
away with Caruso and Dort straight blowout.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
B What did expect the series? What the series? This year?

Speaker 4 (56:37):
I heard? I heard explanations like that.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
I heard explanations like that all during the playoffs by
how the Pacers is gonna lose all the games, And
here we go with another explanation by how they're gonna
lose again.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
If I was a gambler, man.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
You gambling man, you're taking the you're taking the paces.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Yeah yeah, Adam, Yeah, for some reason, shoot, I might
matter of fact, I might go and go put a
little hot hot hundred dollars on it.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
They had to play this, yees yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Oklahoma City won both matchups.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
J C huh Seven game series regular season playoffs. Complete,
different atmosphere, different type of pressure.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
J C J J J C.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Jared's d Dwight Howard forever legend and good to see
you on nightcap, which you had back in the NBA.
But thank you for all you've given the game. Peace
and love, Kevin nor what Jr? Said, Oh Jo? My
question is what is the matchup you're looking for during
the football season.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Mine is Week four Bengals versus the Broncos. Hey, listen,
you know what I'm looking for. I'm looking is is
Robi gonna have his ass out there on te Higgins again.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Hey, all I do is past so teen and locked
that thing down. Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa
whoa Listen. I love Pat P I love I love
I love P too.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
I love him to death. But I'm gonna tell you something.
I'm gonna tell you what do not finna do?

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Who know?

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Gonna take it to church. It's a reason they have
NFL games on Sunday. The man didn't give up. The
man didn't give up about one hundred and twenty yards
all year. Let's listen to me. Week four, You Week four,
there's a meeting. NFL games are on Sunday and the
congregation and Chase is finna be the preacher.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
And Patrick.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Ps two two he's gonna pay his times. He's pay
he's forinna pay his ties.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Okay, huh okay, man, come on man Talbot football season baby.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
PJ P eleven said, what do you think about the
city where the team hosting Super Bowl versus the same
city is getting recycled? Atlanta, New Orleans, La, Arizona. No
disrect these Sasion, but I'm sure they're nice. But let
others get so shine. But I think the thing is
is that the weather is normally nice in La. The

(59:32):
weather is normally nice. In Arizona. The weather is normally nice.
It this places there in.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Vegas, Vegas, Miami, San fran New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
New Orleans is hosting more Super Bowls than anybody because
they had the don't Atlanta's go back to get another one?

Speaker 3 (59:50):
And they going to Atlanta? What twenty nine? I think
they're going back to Atlanta in twenty nine, Oh Joe,
maybe sooner?

Speaker 4 (59:57):
Hold on, it's San Francisco this year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Yes, Atlanta in twenty eight. Okay, you go in San Francisco.
L a Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Okay, Okay, that's gonna be nice.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
And plus you gotta realize they got brand new stadiums.
Atlanta got a brand new stadium, so fine, brand new.
And plus the weather because it's not for the I mean,
people are bringing these these these these sponsors, they bringing
their families. They want to go, They want to go
to the beach, they want to lay out. I mean
they had the soup. They had the Super Bowl in

(01:00:37):
in New York and they had a blizzard that week.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
Not smart.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Hey, listen from from an economical from the standpoint, it
was good, it was good.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
For and they had Super Bowl in Minnesota. Really won't you?

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
I remember that year?

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
I remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
What you're gonna tell I want you to tell me
what activities are you going to do in Minnesota?

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
Snowboard, ice skate most of the time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
The wives and the and and the families, they want
to go out and they don't want to put on
winter coats.

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
Mm hmm. Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Go James eighty four. Uh o Joe is Odella Hall
of Famer.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
I'm talking to you, nah, he said, O Jo nah?
He said, uncin oho.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Okay, well you go ahead. Is the Hall of famer.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
I don't know. I don't know. You got the jacket,
you know the requirements I made my jacket.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Mm hmm. He needed a couple more years.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
That if he could have, if he could have put
together a couple of seasons in Cleveland, he could have
put a couple of seasons somewhere. You think about what
could have been, O Joe, what could have been? Unfortunately,
I don't think Odell's gonna make it bond the gosh,

(01:02:18):
Oh Joe, what are your thoughts on PSG U c
L final victory and who you got upcoming Nations League finals?

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
The PSG game was really good. I was surprised. I
was surprised. I didn't I knew they were, I knew
they would win.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I didn't know they would win by this marchin it
was it was, it was almost it was embarrassing. I
felt I felt bad for the Italian the Italians, I
felt bad for in the Milan fans. That the players,
I'm not sure nobody. Nobody showed up. Nobody showed up
to play. It looked like they didn't even be long
on the pitch. You know they were they retired.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
I don't I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
It was most of the time, especially in soccer. You know, momentum,
the momentum shifts. At no point in this game did
it look like okay, now the momentum and that the
advantage is in in Mlan's half or in their hands
like the whole game PG dominated so United Nations. I'm
not I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
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you leaning towards? More like mister Beesky Sannat or Ashton
Hall love y'all?

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
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is is endangering his life. Kay, Sanat is having fun,
you know, doing No not like that and no uh
type of content like swimming with sharks with no cage.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Riding a bull. Nobody's gonna give you insurance.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
I'm not asking for insurance.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
I'm creating cop hey, and if if I happen to
go doing one of I'm going out on my sore
or creating content.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
So the type of content creator I'm trying to be
is that'd be the name of my show, Life or Death.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
I like that. I like that Life or Death.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Hey, can somebody please explain to me what type of
Wi Fi or camera cashnot and all the other streamers
from AMP or whatever whatever it is that they use
where they walk around, they drive places, and the WiFi
is perfect.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
What the hell are they using? Everything is clear? Just
just whatever, Just send me a DM on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Don't you know what your microphone?

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
What microphone?

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
See you mean my microphone for Oh you talk about
my mic mike? Yeah, oh it's it's getting fixed. That's
why I did the last two shows in here. No,
the whole room getting painted again. O Lord Mercy, my
new sign and the new sign, my new sign, My
new sign is up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
The Indiana Pacers are going to the NBA Finals thanks
to a one twenty five to one oh eight victory
over the New York Knicks. They win the series in
six games. Seven players in double figures, led by Pascal Siakam,
who was named Larry Bird Most Valuable Player given to

(01:05:23):
the Eastern Conference winner. Pascal Siakam had thirty one points,
Nismil ten points, Miles Turner had eleven, nim Hard had fourteen.
Tyrese Hallibert, who finished second in the Larry Bird Award,
twenty one points, thirteen assists, six rebounds. Obie Toppin had
eighteen points and TV Thomas Bryant three or five from

(01:05:46):
the four to three or four from the three point
line eleven points, eleven big points. They will face the
Oklahoma City Thunder on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
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