September 2, 2025 • 66 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Tom Brady saying that today’s QBs aren’t mentally developed as it was when he was in the NFL, CeeDee Lamb and Diggs defend the rumors about Micah Parsons, and Tyreek Hill was not selected as a captain for the Miami Dolphins and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, Joe, Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Tom Brady said the quarterback position isn't as mentally developed
as it was when he ended the league. I don't
believe the quarterback position as mentally developed as it was
when I ended the league twenty five years ago. There
was a premium on understanding defenses, on understanding matchups, on
i'd say pre snaps reads, getting your team in and
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out of the right play. I felt the way to
learn was to play the position over a period of time.
You truly give your team the best chance to win.
To be a field general, I think you better have
a mental advantage on the field, and I think sometimes
there's more important than physical advantage.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
O Joe. Do you agree with him? Hey? Do me?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
You said a whole lot right there that Brady said,
bring it, break it, listen, break it down to me.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
In our language.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
He says.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
There was a premium, oh, understanding defenses. You had to
understand what the defense was trying to do. So now
you go out there and you look, you're not just
looking at your guy like man, this quarters, Oh, this
is covered this. He got help over here. So you
needed to understand a pre snap. You looking at the alignment,
you're looking at that triangle. Okay, I see what y'all
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trying to do. So he said, you guys need to
have a pre snap. You didn't have an understanding of
what's about to happen. Make sure you get your guys. Okay,
do not run a play into a safety that you
can't block. Okay, that's a negative place. So you just
gave up a down for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Flip it right. I like all a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
But listen Tom Brady speaking from a standpoint of being
number twelve, a standpoint of having the power and the
ability to be able to change plays. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,
They Drew Brees, It's a few other quarterbacks that I
can name, when they came to the line of scrimmage,
no matter how much disguising you did, no matter how
much bluffing you did based on down the distance, they
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already know from watching film.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
They know what the hell you're doing. They know what
you're doing.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
They know exactly where each player is going to be.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yes, snap of the ball, even if.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You wait, even if you wait late and wait till
he snap the ball, and he still sees moving in
front of him, because once.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
They snap, they looking right downfield.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Okay, if you if you was down in the box
and you shoot back out, okay, this is what they
he already know what's coming. And you know every play
you run, Chad, every every offensive play you run, especially
when it's a past play, there's always somebody open, There's
always somewhere to go with the ball, and it's all
about being able to process information on what you're see
in front of you and knowing where to go with
it very fast. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees were
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the best at it.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
They were the best.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Sometimes you gotta look at what those guys put in
because a lot of times, guys, we see a lot
of times guys, now there's more important thing than football.
Football was the most important thing to Tom Brady. It
was the most important thing to Peyton Manning. So there
was there was no life outside of that. During the season,
the most important thing was fall. They didn't play video game.
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It wasn't no Call of Duty, it wasn't no Madden,
it wasn't no doing all this. They got all the
commercials done in the off season, so everything that was
focused was centered around how can I become the best
football player I possibly can the question you ask yourself,
is that what these quarterbacks today doing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, and also give you you have to give some
of the quarterbacks that they also you have to give
them a little grace. You have to give them a
little grace because they're.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Starting the game so young.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
They don't have the freedom to do some of the
things that Tom Brady's mentioning that takes time to develop
to even get to that point where you can recognize
everything you're seeing and trust you.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Peyton Manning was the coach, Yeah Brady was the coach.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
But they know they don't put so much time.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So listen, quarterbacks right now, they can't come up to
the line of scrimmage and see something and be like,
you know what, this isn't gonna work. We can't run
that play. Sometimes I watch it. I watched the NFL games.
Wait a minute, the defense shifted, the defensive line shifted
to the right. Change it right, you running power, stretch
to the right, right into the teeth of the defense.
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I think some quarterbacks don't have the freedom to be
able to do that because their office of coordinators don't
trust them just yet.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Because they're young.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
No, you got you got to earn that that kind
of freedom. Early on with Peyton Manning, Yeah, they turned
the keys over to Peyton. Brady didn't even have that
kind of leadway earning his career. He earned that trust.
Drew earned that trust, Rogers earned that trust. You have
to earn that and that doesn't happen overnight.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It doesn't. Patrick Mahomes had to earn Andy's.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Trust in order to be able to be able to
audible in and out of plays, change and play, you know,
things of that nature. Uh, it's different now, Oh, Joe
I came in the league. The quarterbacks called their own plays.
It wasn't looking at the risks. They called it plays.
John Elway called his plays serious. Yes, he called the game.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Damn yes.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Wait, no officer coordinator talking to ay, he might say
what you like here?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Okay, hey, Yes, quarterbacks the old court, the old guard.
Those guys came in the league. Quarterbacks were calling at
some of the quarterbacks not all he's the quarterbacks will call.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
It the all play.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, like yeah, you gotta get out of my ear,
get out, get out of my ear. But it takes
a lot. You have to put a lot of a
lot of timing in and everybody. But like you said,
you're talking about Brady running practice. He's running, he's running
a walkthroughs, he's running seven on seven, he's running, you know,
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two minutes, he's running running.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
No huddle.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Tom is doing those things. If a quarter if you
want a quarterback to have, you gotta let him do it.
You gotta let him do it.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I got to tell this story. I don't know if
I'm getting in trouble or not. I'm not sure if
I'm allowed to share this. I don't even care. I
don't even care.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Chat.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I'm gonna tell you about why the New England Patriots
were so goddamn good. Huh, everybody in the chat. I
know you saw the beginning of Full Metal Jacket with
the sergeant going off cursing and just a was he
was on one. In the beginning of the movie Full
Metal Jacket. One day in practice, Bill O'Brien, obviously the
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officer of coordinator called in the plays we're in practice,
and Bill radios in the play in Tom's ear.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I'm in the huddle.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I'm assuming maybe Tom didn't get it. So Tom's sitting
there with his head down and he does one of these,
give me the play again, and Bill must have said
it again.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
He didn't hear it, because.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
The thing is, the communication must have been off, and
Tom looked back, give me the goddamn play. Bill, I
gave a fucking play already. I said it two fucking
times without didn't fucking get it.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
What the fuck you want me to do? Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
We're in the middle of practice. We're in the middle
of practice, and at that moment I.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Understood this is why.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Mm hmmm, this is why.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
The smallest things that period we were doing, where that
one play, that one play didn't work and it didn't
go right. We started the whole fucking period over. Yeah,
we started the whole period over so we can get
all the plays in succession and get it the right way.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I'm like what what?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Bill over there with the whistle on his finger.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
For yeah, talking, what are ain't running over here? It
was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
There's so many stories I can share that one. Some
of the other ones it's a little too little, too graphic,
doll we bro.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
We would go practices, the ball wouldn't touch the ground.
Mike would come out there and says, I don't expect
the ball to touch the ground.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Real ball don't touch the ground, right right, right? Boy?
Look here, people bad Look at y'all. If y'all look
like I said them nineties, roncos.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You understand like I understand why the Cowboys one in
the nineties. I understand why the the the forty nine
Ers one in the eighties and the Steelers won because
there's a level in which you practice at. Yes, not
that you get it right. You practice so you couldn't
get it wrong.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
That's a good one. That's exactly how That's.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
How we were.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And it was you're so afraid to let the man
next to you down, and he's so afraid to let
you down.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I'm not gonna be the one to drop this ball. Nah,
that ain't gonna happen to me. M m man. Oh, Joe, buh,
look at it. Look you. I've never really been around
Tom like in a game.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
We played him. I played him twice. We played him
in two thous well my first year back in Denver.
We beat him, and then they came and Tom threw
a touchdown pass with like twenty seconds to go in
the ball game to beat us. But being around him
and listening at him talk. Now you understand why he's
how he is. Yeah, you understand it, you understand, you
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understand it.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
He's an animal in film, in practice. Once he's outside
that building, completely different person.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yes, I can relax, a different person.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
He got the point well a few times. I've always
I've always told people.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Seeing Tom Brady, seeing Peyton Manning, seeing him in front
of a camera, hearing them talk, it does no justice
because they have to put on a certain facade. They
have to mask who they truly are, the fun side,
the authentic Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, So nobody really
knows who they are unless you know them personally. Yes,
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some of the greatest, some of the greatest, funniest dudes ever.
And the fact that they have to remain a certain
way once that camera's.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Rolling it is unfair.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's unfair to the world in general because you never
get to see the real them. Everything you see is
that political robot that says all the right things, that
that patriot way.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
But outside of that, Tom Funny, I.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Used to hate Joe, you know what I hate? If
somebody mess up, everybody, get Funny him best, mad, don't laugh.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Man, god man, you out there running.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I mean, somebody jump off side or somebody do something,
and we all got to run because their thought process was,
if it happens in the game, he's not the only
one that's gonna get punished.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
We get punished as.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
A unit, right right, hold on, that might be happened,
but I'm on the side, o Jo. If the offense
with Dan reeves, if the office jumped outside, even if
you had in the game, you had to run.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Wait, even if you're not in the game, yes, if.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
You're not even in practice, the offense had to run
right right.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Oh lord, listen, hey, Dann. Like one band one sound, baby,
one band one sound.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Every time you jump offside, Ojo, you had to You
had to run a lap. Lap was around both football fields.
So it's like that's four hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Man. Why I had to run three one day? O Jo?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Three? Somebody jumped off sides?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
No me.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Me, man, Lord, have mercy, damn hey boy, Dad, Dan
was old old school. You heard how people talk about
coach Landry and how those old school coaches was, That's
what Dan. Dan was the offensive coordinator for the Dallas
Cowboys under coach Landry, So he brought coach Landry style.
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If you see Dan back when he first started coaching,
he got a hat on, he got a shirt and tie,
he got a suit on, just like coach Landry. Now
he never really folded his arms like coach Landry because
Dan called the plays. Coach Landry turned, you know, turned
some of the play clawling over.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think, you know, people said that was some of
the thing between him and Roger Starbach because he didn't
really want to let the rings go. But oh, man, yeah,
but I showed. I was like, damn, I don't know
what it was, O Joe. May you know when you
get tired, O Joe, you were thinking. I was like, damn,
is it one?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Was it on one? It was it on two?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Put the ball on the ball right down your inside
of here.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But I ain't looking at the ball, man, I'm looking him,
Damn that ball.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
One thing about it where Hey, I never forgot my
coach coach boyd main Lake's Optimus nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Fatigue will make a fool of.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Us, All, yeah, absolutely will, it absolutely will. But I
remember that man all the running and then like we
have guys like the guys did that make weight in
training camp? They have to run one tens after practice.
So we've been out there for two hours, O Joe,
and you know you might have to run ten.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
You might have to run twelve. Man. You know, I run.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I run with the guys, you know, cause especially if
one of the guys is in.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
My group, one of the tight ends right right right,
or we have to run.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
We have to run after practice, so we might have
to run ten, twelve, one tens.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I'm coasting. I'm I'm cruising. Then like pick it, pick
it up? What for what? As long as I'm making it? So, y'all?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Was your team was different when my team obviously not
not me, but when we were overweight.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
You know, it costs money.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
A pound you still have to pay, but you're not
gonna pay.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
You gotta pay, and you got.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta get up off you somehow, man.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Please.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I ain't never had no problem with no weight. I
ain't never had you know, but I always I always
set my weight because I wanted something to fight for.
You know, as I started to get older, Mike would say,
eighty four. You know you sure you want to come
in with this? I mean, you can come in a
couple of pounds. I was like, nope, I want to
come in at this right here, because I'm gonna come
in and then you know, I'll come in at two
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thirty two to two thirty ish by the time the
first game started. I'm gonna be at two twenty eight
by the time the season and on be at two
twenty five already. I already know got it time got it,
planing down to the t t just like this. Know
what I'm gonna eat, I know when I'm gonna eat.
I know how much I'm gonna eat. I know how
much protein, carbohydrates fast. I know all of that. But
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I just think that, you know, that's just the discipline
what it takes, Oh Joe, to be the best, because
that's what we That's what I was trying to be.
I was trying to be the best. I don't I
don't know what somebody else was doing. All I can
do is me versus me. I'm gonna get everything I
can out is God given talent. And then hey, but
he didn't give me. I can't complain. But he did
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give me discipline and hard and work ethic to get
the most out of what I can do. Oh Joe,
what do you think the most difficult position is for
a rookie defensive position.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Oh, defensive back, Yeah, defensive back, absolutely, coming in coming,
in coming in from college. The speed of the game
has changed. The plays you got to go thin, the
players you gotta go against are a little bit more
polished than what you saw in college.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Everybody's fast.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Everybody's fast now, you know, so really understanding who's in
front of you, making sure you discipline, your eyes, your team,
everything matters now once you get to that next left.
I mean, listen, your coordinators gonna hide you sometimes, you know,
put the same thing over top of you.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I mean, man, listen, man, dB. The most difficult.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well he not when you got one on one and
you ain't got no DV over the top of you,
because did y'all I'm assuming y'all did. Hold on, I'm
trying to think, did y'all do you did one on
ones every day? Or y'all just did one on ones
on Thursday?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Uh? Probably Wednesday and Thursday.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah, yeah, and you know Wednesday, Wednesday was obviously open
field day. Yeah, Wednesday is red zone. So we'll do
red zone one on ones on Thursdays, Friday, Friday. In
the combination of both you know, practice only an hour
on Fridays.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Oh yeah, that was, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's funny that I think about, like, man, but that
was the I really truly felt that a practice is
when I was getting better. Oh sure, if I could
be the guy that sees me every day, have seen
me every day for years, what chance that guy got in.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
The game on Sunday? And none at all?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Zero?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
None at all, Bro, I don't even see you. Just
just so you know, I don't even see you all
that you're talking. Okay, got something for you, but that man,
I just but you just understand. People get to where
they need to go doing different things.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Oh yo, yeah, I was. It was the end all
be all something. Oh yo. I had teammates.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
They had to go out Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night.
They got to they got to they missing something, something
might happen and I ain't there to see it. Like, bro,
how how man I got to get man? I had
to get me like I'm in the bed, Oh yo,
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I'm in the bed at ten.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Hell, I was old, way before my time. Hell I
was in my tweeties. I was my tweeting and going
to bed at at ten.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, yeah, we we're in the same boat in the sense,
but you you were here and I was out here.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
You was like, I mean, oh man.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
It's same way without in college. Oh yo.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
When I was in college, I was a teenager. Oh
ya out to the bed at ten thirty sleep out,
Yeah out man, boy. I would come in there and
cut that light on.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I understood early in college at Langston University as Santa Monica,
going out costs. It costs money, and I ain't spending
no money, so it was easy. It was easy for
me not to go anywhere and not going anywhere gaming
my money.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
My money I had to have to spend it. It
was spent on buying games. That was it. That's where
my money went.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I mean, I didn't really watching no football games. I
would only watch a football game a Monday night game.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Oho.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
If we weren't gonna play that team during the season.
If we're gonna play a team do the season, I
ain't watching it. No, Nope, because I didn't want to
have a false sense because if they look bad, I
didn't want to, Oh, We're gonna run through them, or
if they look good, I'm like, damn, we got our
work cut out.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Mm hmm, I got you.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But I've always I've always been a guy that's gotten
the Like I said in college, I'm ten o'clock and
don't be running out of the cause you know that
that that uh, I was just reading something a kid
I think eleven year old kid in Houston just got
shot again. Ojo playing that knock knock ding ding thing,
dig ding dong ditch.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, man, he's got mad oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Guys in college, oh hoe, beat.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
On your your room though and running yet really, guys,
really listen. I I'm I'm I'm I'm one that that
was me and that listen. You talk about ding dong
ditch and you know, my condolences to the young boy
that lost his life in Houston doing that, But I
was doing that too back in the city. I'll never
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forget Scott Projects, Scott Projects.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Me and Snoop Minutes. I don't know if you remember
Marvin Minus Yeah heard of man.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
We was little kids man in the Scott Projects man
knock knock knocked, taking off h Remember them days, some
good days.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
That was like my my, my, my rook my freshman year,
when I got to when I got to.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Be a sophomore. Yeah, and I was I was the
b M O c R. Don't do that. We're b
M C stand for big man on campus.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Okay, okay, okay that boy, huh okay.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah my side for
my side, but yeah and definitely my junior CI year.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Oh yeah. May y'all know. May y'all know how Sean
feels man. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Nah nah nah, oh Joe. I'm just I just but
I needed my rest. I don't I done, did look,
I don't practice my ass off, Coach David. That had
us out there for two two and a half hours.
I done, gone to study hall, did my homework.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I'm out. Oh so I got to get up at
seven in the morning.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I got class at eight, So I got to get up, shower,
put my clothes on, go to the cafeteria and eat breakfast.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Time out, Time out.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
You schedule your classes for early.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
In the morning.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh boy, ain't look here, Bill said Bill. David, say
look here, you ain't on no academic scholarship. You're in
a football scholarship.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
You couldn't have no class. You couldn't have no class.
The ladies, you could have a class. We had practice
at we had practice at three the latest, be absolute latest, right.
Bill didn't want Coach David didn't want you to have
a class afternoon. My class was eight, eight to nine,
nine to ten, ten to eleven, eleven or twelve. I
go eat, thirty minutes to eat, then I go get me,
go get me an hour to half nap, get up walk.
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We had to walk to practice. We couldn't drive the practice.
Had to walk to practice, which is like maybe half
a mile. Practice for two two and a half hours.
Go to the cafeteria, eat, go shower, go do my homework.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Ten o'clock, ten thirty lights out. You better than me.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I wouldn't I get up early, but I ain't getting
up to go to no class.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
The only problem that coach that look Coach Davis. I
love Coach Davis today. The only time, the only time
here and I butted his five am workouts. That's the
only time. That's the only time I've ever told the
coach coach, I ain't gonna do.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
It five am.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
But it's not the it's not the military. That's like,
that's like army, that's like you know, nah that they
tripping man.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You know you had the all season workouts. Oh yo,
five o'clock me getting up early. Oh Joe, it's just
like ruined my date. I feel like I'm sluggish the
rest of the day.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
You have to get up early.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, man, I.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Hated it, and plus I had had to get up
my senior year before I went to Savannah State. Oh Joe,
we had we did construct, We did construction, we did landscaping,
and I had to work in Savannah and I lived
in glenber which is sixty five miles away. We got
to be on the job at six am. So the
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guy picking me up at four thirty. I said, noah, man,
I ain't doing that, said coach, I can't do it. Coach, So,
coach I can't do I said, Coach, I can't do it.
A guy is a damn homes He said, you're the leader.
I said, well, coach, I'm gonna have to leave from
the bed. I'm about to leave from my door room
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and I was. He didn't bother me because he know
what I was there for. I was very specific. When
he came to recruit me at Savannah State. He came
to my house to sign me that morning. When I
sent a coach, I called him and said, coach, I
want to sign with Savannah State. He said, I'm gonna
put some clothes on. I'm coming right now. I said, no, Coach,
you can come in the morning. I was very intentional
about what I wanted. I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
He can't do that. What I can do is what
I can do.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Tom Brady says Aaron Rodgers is the most talented quarterback
in NFL history. Aaron and his prime to me, is
the greatest pastor of the football the league has ever seen.
He could get the ball from point A to point
B faster and more accurate than any player in NFL history.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You agree, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
And you know, if anything, you might want to throw
Brett fav in it too.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I don't think Brett was a great thrower of the football.
When I think of great throwers of the football, I'm
looking at a guy like Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I'm looking at a guy like Dan Marino. Danny.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Wait, you don't put whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
You don't put bread in that conversation.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Not a great football, no, But I understand what he's
saying when he when he talks about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Though the slots, the angles, in which he can throw
the ball from the.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Platform, every last one from up here all the way
down to the side arm It didn't matter. And he
was accurate as hell, Yes, accurate as hell.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Obviously, and especially Aaron Rodgers mechanics, his footwork.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
That's not teaching.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
You don't teach that, you cannot. You would never that he.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Throwing off one foot, he throwing going back because he
has arm strength to do it. He has arm strength
to be able to get away with some of the
stuff that he does. Anything Aaron Rodgers like when it
comes to playing the quarterback position, you can teach you
because the only one that can get away with it
because he has the army.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
But I still, to me, the greatest NFL season by
a quarterback is day In season in eighty four.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, but his offense, yeah, fifty fifty.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
He threw for forty eight touchdowns, five thousand yards. In
that era when you could knock hell out of the quarterback,
you could knock hell out of the receivers, and.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
He did that.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That's still the greatest. For that's that is Joe Burroughs
season his last year at LSU. That's that's what that
would be the equivalent of you gotta go back and
look like I said, back back back then the defenses
could punish the quarterback. I'm talking about annihilate them. There
wasn't no Well you know, you hit him in the bag,
you hit him in his knees, you hit him below
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the waist, and yeah, that was the greatest season. But
I won't I won't argue with Tom on this one.
Aaron Rodgers the way he could, the platforms, the arms,
slots that which he could throw the ball from, and
the accuracy in which he can throw from any angle
on the field. He said it none of I mean,
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he's gifted. Ys gifted.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And the funny thing about it, a lot of people,
a lot of people say, oh, Aaron Rodgers trash like
I if you.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Watch the game of football.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
But Aaron was in his primate Green Break with Donald Driver,
Jordy Nelson, Davonte Adams man.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Oh he had Greg Jennings, Greg Jennings, James Johnson.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yes, well he is slang it boy, Uh he is
slinging damn just thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Ceede Lamb.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
The nounced rumors that Michael Parks was considered both egotistical
and self centered.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
That's my dog. He knows it.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I expressed to him just about every week I could,
so he knows. So I feel like he knows where
we stand as far as the brotherhood, friendship and all that.
So obviously wishing him the best, hope he has the
best season ever. Trey Vun Diggs felt everyone in Dallas
currently locker room like micaeh and he indicated that the
feud for those rumors likely came from former Cowboys. He
didn't name name, but it's pretty clear Diggs was referred
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to Marcus Lawrence. I think everyone liked him. I feel
there were some former players who are not here no
more who didn't like Michael And there's.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
A lot of that.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I would say, hey, jealousy every towards hell because of
who he is and the production that he does on
the field. Imagine if you could come here like and
you're talking like somebody shining or taking somebody's spot, You're
not going to like that. They're going to feel some
type of way, especially you're that type of person. The
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greater the person, listen, because sometimes I think people the
greater the athlete, the greater the individual, the bigger the ego.
Quarterbacks have the biggest ego. They do the best job
of hiding it. The greater the person, the greater the player,
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the more accomplished the person is. So so are we
saying that Beyonce and Taylor Swift ain't got no ego?
Are we saying Drake, Michael Jackson, Whitney and Mariah ain't
have no ego? Are we saying are we saying, uh,
Elon Musk and who whomever? Got no ego? So we
saying Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Lawrence Taylor, Jim Brown.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Ain't have no ego?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
They all do.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
The greater the person, the more accomplished the person.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Or successful, yeah, all of them.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Man, what we do, what we're doing here, everybody's not
gonna be liked.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And that's okay.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
What you do with what you do when you get
on the field, bro, as long as you ain't a jerk,
not as long as you not do you know, doing
anything that's gonna that's gonna harm the locker room or
call a fraction.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
In the locker room. Bro, I don't care nothing about that, brother. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
First of all, I ain't going I ain't going to
your house like that anyway. So what you do I
don't care you leave. Look, this is my locker right here.
Oh ya, this my locker right here. Long as you
don't f with nothing in my locker, I don't give
damn what you do. I ain't messing with nothing in
your locker. You got a job to do. I got
a job to do.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
How you do. We don't have to be friends. We
canna be friendly.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, I mean it's a locker room. You got fifty
three people. You got fifty three people. Everybody's not gonna
get along. Yeah, everybody's not gonna get along. You're gonna
have egos, you're gonna have you have, You're gonna have
people with pride, You're gonna have jealousy, you know. And
it's just it's always it's always been a part of sports,
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has always been a part of the locker rooms. It's
always been a part of teens in general. You're not
gonna like everybody. You're not there. This is it's not
a liking contest. You're there for one job.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Do your job. I like you. I like you more
if you do your job good. I like you.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
He were more. But look, look I don't you know.
Clearly CD and Digs has a fondness to with Michael.
I've been around him a little bit. I don't have
no problem with Michael, never had a problem with it.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
He's a funny, funny dude.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
That's why hear and hearing anything come up about ego
and he's especially when it comes to him.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
He's a he's a funny guy. He's young. You know,
it's weird.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
It's funny how everything comes out when someone actually leaves.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
We knew that was gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Funny how that works.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You know, you ever noticed the guy was, Oh he
was a problem on the job fifteen for twenty years.
Ain't nobody to say nothing. The mum was somebody lead. Yeah, yeah,
he was a problem.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah, he was probably the best one on the job too.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yes, at that.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
The Miami Dolphins announced their captains for the twenty twenty
five season Monday, but there's one glare omission. For the
first time since joining the team in twenty twenty two,
Tyreek Hill was not voted a captain by his teammates.
Reek himself suggested this offseason that he likely would not
be a captain this year due to his action at
the end of the twenty twenty four regular season when
he removed himself from a game from the finale and
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hinted after the game that he wanted to play elsewhere.
Mike McDonald had a very revealing quote, I'm really excited
about the whole voting process in general. This year, the
team was much more unified and the focus was on
those six guys was very clear. Those were resounding vote getters.
We were focused on giving the keys to captaincy to
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guys that had earned it each and every day.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
That speaks.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
That speaks to me the most if football team that
knows who it wants to be led.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
By, and that's cute. That's cute, It's commendable. You know,
having your peers on your team, you know, vot as
the captain.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, you know, that'd be nice. Man, I wanted the
captain c on my jersey.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
But honestly, for me, my Dolphins, my Dolphins, and those
of you in the chat, I'm from Liberty City, born
in Jackson Memorial Hospital on Crth Avenue. What I care
about is my Dolphins playing well in the postseason. Is
my Dolphins playing well when they play against teams that
are above five hundred. Is my Dolphins playing well, when
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the weather's below fifty degrees, I don't care who's carrying
that sea on that goddamn chest. I just want us
to be able to execute offensively and defensively when it
matters most.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
But look, there's no way it'd have been a joke.
If he did what he did and he turns around
the following you and he needs a captain, couldn't happen.
They weren't gonna let that happen, O Joe. Even if
he'd got even if he got fifty two votes, he
was gonna be no captain. They wouldn't let that happen.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
O Joe. You know that. I know that, we know
how it worked. We know who they want to be captains. Okay, okay, okay, okay,
we on the same page. Were here, yeah, were here? Yeah.
But look, look, uh, I think learned a valuable lesson.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I think if he had to do it all over again,
he definitely would do it a different way.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
He's going through some stuff right now. Rik.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Uh, My heart goes. I tell you, because I think
you're a phenomenal player. I absolutely do, And I know
there's a that's a lot on your mind, anybody you know,
and being there, it's gonna be Hey, don't don't work, bro.
It's easy to say tell somebody not to worry about
something when they're not going through it, But when you
going through it, m.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
So, I mean it's tough because like you do things
like you in it.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Oo, he's like in the minute you do, you're like, damn,
but I don't, I don't, I don't. I mean, Reek
was in a great situation when he went to Miami.
That's where he wanted to go. I mean, they could
have traded him someplace else. They ask him. I mean, think,
o Jo, think about this, Ojo. They asked you where
you want to go? You want to go to the
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Jesse You want to go to the Dolphins. Yeah, they
put it where he wanted to be. And I get it.
When you had the season come off, he led the
league in receiving. He was Hey, remember last year, o Joe.
He was the number one player voted by his peers,
in the top one hundred. Yeah, your quarterback gets nigged.
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You're not the same riek people like you lost. You know,
he didn't lose it nothing. It just it's just that
you know, his quarterback got hurt. He's dependent on a
quarterback that's injury prone. The guy's been injured prone since college.
He limped into the NFL. He probably gonna limp out
of it. He had a lot of injuries when he
was when he was in Alabama, Ojo, you know, he
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had the tight rope surgery on his ankle, he had
to dislocated hill, he had the.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Injury the pinky. He had an injury history.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
And guess what, he's had a concussion or I don't
know if you want to say concussions are injury. But
he's had a history since he's been with the Dolphins.
And Tyreek's future is tied his success, his production is
tied to a guy that's injury prone. It's kind of like, oh, Joe,
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you reliant on somebody that's unreliable to get you to work.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Man, it's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And then he didn't make it no better because he
could have just went there and says like, I'm happy
to be in Miami. Is great, great weather, great team.
By every chance he gets, he tried to take a
shot at Mahomes. Oh to it is more distant, Mahmes.
This is that and this, bro, you don't need to
do that, nobody. You're not, even though you played with both,
You're not going to convince anybody that to it is
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a better quarterback than my Homes.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
You're not. So why you try to do that.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I believe you could, Oh yo, I believe you can
prop one guy up without trying to put another guy down.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, well that in that situation, that's not putting a
guy down, because you can't put my Homes down, especially
in that comparison.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
When it comes to the quarterback position.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
But I think Riek has a lot to prove this year,
especially come out last year. Obviously them not voting him
a captain. Boom, that's another one. Okay, y'all didn't want
to vote me a captain. Okay, hold my beer, watch this,
Watch this, mhla.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
I hope so go slap.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Off because I mean, you know, he's a special talent.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
There are not very many guys that's been played in
the history of the game that had his God given
ability that can take a rock, that can take any
route on the fiel and he's literally he's a legitimate
threat to hit his head on the goal post.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Now we tell that, Oh you give him a five. No, no, no,
no, no no. There've only been a handful of.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Guys that can literally take any type of route that
you give them, and you can.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Strike up the band every time.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
And you see that, you see you see that he's
doing that the band player, and and Reek has that accountability.
He just needs to get back to that and hopefully
he can focus. I think being on the field, it
allows you to, like tonel Viso, it allows you to go,
you lucky and you got to compartmentalize. That's really good
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with a grade at it.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
That's the one place does matter what's going on in life.
You know, once I get to that stadium, once I
get to that grass, it's different.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Everything else is left outside.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
No, no, I know somebody said you put to it
to put Tyreek up. No, I just said, he's not Mahomes.
He's a good quarterback. He's not Mahomes. And Tyreek's a
production is tied to a guy that's injury prone. Did
I like, how many concussions has he had? How many
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times did he get injured at the University of Alabama.
I'm just giving you facts. I ain't say he wasn't
he a bad player. He a terrible player. That's not
what I said. I said Tyreek's production is tied to
a quarterback that's injury prone.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
That's factual. That ain't no, That ain't that ain't no.
You know, stretching the truth. That's not a lie. That
is just factually correct.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
And maybe Tyreek wouldn't have seventeen eighteen hundred yards because
he got killed and he got other guys. But if
you go back and look at it, look at his production,
it's thirteen hundred, it's fourteen hundred, it's fifteen hundred, it's
thirteen hundred, it's fourteen hundred, have though it didn't have
eighteen hundred and then nine hundred?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Right? You know what I'm saying that, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
O jo Hey, I mean, you don't want to have
no sixteen hundred one year than a thousand, twelve hundred
one year, then eight hundred. Nah, you wanna be consistently, Hey,
let me be somewhere that consistent. Let me be eleven
to twelve thirteen hundred. I can live with that now
one year if I won't have, you know, have one
of your bust out of years, I get me two
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or three two hundred yard games.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I'll be on to something.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
But nah, I just think the thing is in like,
you know, your emotional things didn't go your way. You're like, damn,
I'm gonna get one hundred yards. I want to continue
my thousand, my thousand, you know yard seasons. Ohoe, that's
gonna come to an end. Damn, we're gonna miss the playoff.
That's gonna come to an end.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah. And he just got fussed, It got frustrated, and
it bubbled up.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
That's all. It bubbled up. Made a mistake. He'll probably
tell you. He'd tell and he said it. You know,
I should have handled that differently. Wish I to handle
it differently, and uh, you know, lesson learn And uh
I believe, I believe you. I believe he learned his lesson.
I do.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Absolutely, he's gonna bounce back.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
But and I think McDonald says that, you know, let's
not focus on who didn't make it as captain. Let's
talk about the guys that did make it as captain.
They're deserving better captains. That's who they want to lead.
Bradley Chubb. It's time for Chubb to come out there
and you know, play like the Chubb like they they
gave up the draft picks for it to get him
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from Denver.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
It's time for him to play.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
It's time for him to show, because it looks like,
oh joy, they kind of taking this thing apart. They
let you know, Kalais Campbell go, They let Jalen Ramsey go,
they let some of the you know, they let Christian
Wilkins go a few years ago. So it seems like,
you know, the going for it, going for it, going
for it now they're like, uh.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
They're getting young and young mm hmm, getting younger and younger.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, So we'll see what it works out for your
Dolphins this year. Shador Sanders seems to have it seems
to be the talk of college football after arch Manning's
disapporting debut, Fans of calling out the double standard for
Archie Mannings pro debut, poor debut versus Ohio State being
excused while hr Duer wouldn't have gotten the same grace
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at Colorado. Why don't y'all call it arch Manning NEPO baby,
like y'all did it's your door in Brownie o Jo.
It's Archie Manning getting a free pass from the media
just because of his last name, while your duer would
have been torn apart for the same performance.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Woo.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, I mean obviously, I mean that's the way it's
always been. That's the way it's always been. I think
watching Dan Olofsky, Dan made some some some good excuses
up the here, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
For he did it.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah, for for Ars and the way the way Ars played,
And obviously it's just it's just the makeup make the
makeup of the media and makeup is the DNA and
in which the way they treat certain quarterbacks depending on
who it is, and they give him grace they get
they give him.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Grace all the time. And this happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
It does.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Some people will turn the blind eye to it and say, oh,
that's not true. They'll come up with some damn conspiracy
theory when it's like right there, right there, in your face,
in your face, what are you talking about. Yes, they're
going to continue to make excuses for him if he
has another bad game. I think obviously now that I
think now that they've played Ohio State, some of the
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games leading forward going forward will be a little bit
more easier and boom, they don't They're gonna be right
back to you know, talking good about him, and we
told you he was a generational talent. That's that they're
gonna go right back into it. But I mean, that's
that's that's neither here nor there. I think he's gonna
continue to get better. Obviously opening up a season with
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a team like that, if it's someone that's that's that's
been under the hem, been on the center for for
two or three years consistently, as opposed this your first
year starting against Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Mm hmmm, and please, Well, but.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Here's the thing, Oyoe, those are the kind of throw
that's that's who I want to see it make those
throws against So what the hell you think they So?
Speaker 4 (44:17):
What the hell you think the NFL is every week thing?
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Just think? Just think about it, O Joe.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
If you go out there and you play a good
a good inferior talent, but when the talent is on
your level or better and you lay ads, what does
that say about you? Look, it's a one time thing.
It can be a one time thing. But we can
point out the fact that he didn't play well. Yeah,
because I'm not He might go on and come back
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and he might win the Heisman. But two things can
you know? Two things can be true. He cannot have
played well against Ohio State and still play well enough
the rest of the season to win the Heisman or
win the SEC or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Two things can be true.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
When shaduor played, I said, oh yo, look, it still
bothers me that he bails too much. It still bothers
me that he holds onto the ball. It still bothers me.
We can give credit. He made some big time throws.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Oyoh. I love the dagger throw.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
I love to throw where he threaded the need and
he let the seven route for the first touchdown. I
love the over routes that he throw. We see a
lot of those from Rock Party. I say, but but
Ojo still holds onto the ball too long? Long man,
I thought you. I thought you was supposed to be coach,
Brian boy. Why because my job is a critique and analyzed.
Two things can be true.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
I can be Times boy and still critique his son
and say there are some things that are concerning for me. Yeah,
that's how the job works.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
You give credit wind due and then when someone you
see something, you're like, okay, yeah, he played well, but
there's some things that he Let's go ahead and correct
these now before they bite you at the most inopportunity
of times.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
See, people want you to like.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
If oh that's your boy. No, oh oh time your boy,
you kill it? Not No, that was a poor game
on Saturday. Yeah, I mean what there was that Friday
that they played? That was Friday that Georgia take played
right Friday? I said, I said, I said that as
soon as we got on somehow what was that about
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a minute seven seconds? You got two timeouts? You throw
one pass behind the line of screaming that got tack
of you. You don't take a time out. Yeah, I said that.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Oh oh, oh your boy? Oh you killing your boy? Now?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I remember last year you he could do no wrong. No,
when you're doing right, you pouring out the right. But
when he does wrong, you pouring out the wrong. That's
what you do fair time and time will tell you.
And like he had so many times, one thing, you're
gonna you gonna know, you're gonna you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Call it now.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Is I expect that I'm your boy, you call it
your boy, so you better call it over everybody else.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
And he's absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Do you think Arch would ever fall to the fifth round,
but they'll do away with the draft.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Bad stop it, who y'all, who y'all try to keep.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
It and stop playing.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
That ain't happening. That is happening.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
But I can see a scenario he comes back because
the manning is normally normally four years now. Obviously that's
not Peyton, that's not Eli. But you know they're normally
very scripted, very methodical about how they're gonna do things.
Oh yo, strategic and and plus o Joe. His family
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is not in dire need of anything. A lot of times,
these families, you know, it's like bro mom in the projects,
grandma over here, ain't no fool in the refrigerator, the
house league, and we come on brot here. Yeah, and
I understand. I totally understand brother. I think my brother
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told the uh.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
The story.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
I think he said on my podcast because he thought
about coming out as a junior, and they ask him
why he didn't come out. He said, we had been
poor for twenty two years. Eight more months won't gonna
hurt nothing.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
He was right. Hey, I had been going to the
woods oyo for nineteen years.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
Use the bathroom, mam, Yes.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
I had dipped the bucket down in the well, pull
it up, poured it something to take.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
It to the house.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I had been running the hole inside of the house
and put it in the tin tub. Let the sun
heat it up. Take me a bath in the backyard.
Couldn't nobody see what number woods? Someone was bad? Cause
I'm skit to tear you up? O yo, I mean
think about it. Oh Joe, you gotta take the rage.
Try to put you a shield around hear him? Take
you a quick bath because I'm skiny board. They like
(49:05):
they had swords bad. No, but I but I but I,
but I understand, I understand. Our job is to get better.
He went to Texas because of the success that Sark
has with working with quarterbacks. He could have gone anywhere,
but he chose Texas for a reason. And it's not
(49:27):
it's not by accident. So could I see a scenario
where he stays another year?
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (49:35):
And we gotta look. He didn't beat yours out for
the job. Yours were the were the seventh round pick?
What what what round did yours get? Drafted sixth to seventh?
Speaker 4 (49:50):
Right, he went to the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
I forgot where round he went.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
He went seventh.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
But I think hold on, I think Derek car was
the first, the first overall pick, and he couldn't beat
Billy Bollick out. See if Billy Bollick went to a
Fresno State v O l e K. I think that's Bulleck.
(50:23):
Derek Carr played with the Tennessee Titans. Yeah, I know
he didn't he go to Fresno State. Didn't Derek Carr
come behind him? I don't think Derek Carr beat him out,
(50:44):
So it's not I mean, Joe Burrow transferred, became the
number one pick, Jameson Williams transferred, become a number one
Pickoe Burrow was the number one picking the entire draft.
Couldn't get no shine at Ohio State. But that's it,
(51:06):
kid O Joe, Yeah, you're right, right, So this notion
where he didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Things happened. So you're saying Joe Burr's not even good
because he couldn't beat who? Uh? I forget the guy?
Speaker 2 (51:19):
What was it? I think it was the guy that
passed away? Ojo Uh the black guy that got got.
Speaker 4 (51:26):
Hit Dwayne Haskins.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yes, yes, things happened, Yeah, Ojoe Vegas has Lamar Jackson
at the back.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
He's back on top for the MVP odds, the.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Ranting MVP Josh Allen and Joe Burrow our hairs beneath
him at plus six hundred, Patrick Mahomes rounding out the
top four at plus six point fifty. Is this the
year Lamar puts it all together? When MVP and Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (51:57):
I mean, it could be the year.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
It could be the year if, if.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
If it was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
This is the funny thing when it comes about, when
it comes to not just Lamar Jackson, but Josh Allen
and all those other quarterbacks in the AFC, It's only
come the same, the same, same for the same, for same.
For now, What Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs?
What Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs? That's
(52:25):
all that matters, because we knowbody gonna do in the
regular season. Yes we're gonna put up crazy numbers, Yes
I'm gonna rush for crazy numbers. But what Lamar Jackson, whatever,
Lamar Jackson be getting the postseason? That will be if
those odds in Vegas come come true.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
That's all they come down to.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
That's all, And that's all I've said. I said I
want to see the Lamar Jackson that's won the MVP
or finish second. We have yet to see that guy
for the totality of the playoffs. We've seen it for
a game, oh Joe, But we need to see it
for the total talented because we saw it last year.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
They did. He turned the ball O. He din't turned
the ball over.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
For like eight nine games, right, and then he had
two big turnovers and that was you know, some of
that's undo it like look and I get it.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Such an hold on to the ball.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Zay Flowers fumbled on the one, but he did give
the he did give the chiefs of short field. He
got stripped in the pocket. I just need Lamar to
be Lamar in the postseason that he was in the
regular season. I don't need anything else. I don't need
to be I don't need anything else, O Joe. I
don't need him to be anything other than what he's
(53:35):
shown us for the seventeen eight for the seventeen games
in the regular season. If he's that, if he's that player,
can't nobody beat the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (53:43):
Nobody, Nah well, I don't know about nobody.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Oh Joe. The man threw forty one touchdown for four picks.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
Hold on, hold on, now, don't jump on me. Don't
jump on me.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
This is a new season with everything you just name.
It is what he did last year. Now I'm not
saying he can't repeat it, but there's a team he
has to deal within.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
The AFC North.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
On, y'all come again. They own y'all. Lamar Jackson owned
the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
I let me do something. Is the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
That's your team or you you're supposed to be team
that you spent two weeks at two years, Okay, two years,
two weeks.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
It's all the same. You want the best something on
that game.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Oh Joe, it's kind of hard for you to borrow
money when you owe money.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Who huh?
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Oh you know hey, listen, I'm good for it. Like
when I go when I go to casino, they just him.
They just give me what I want because they understand. Oh,
oh Joe, you here, Oh we know, we know we're
gonna take care of you what you need.
Speaker 4 (54:49):
No push your money line.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
I have a file of what you call him on you.
I'm fire, I'm pressed charges on you.
Speaker 4 (54:57):
I ain't do nothing.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
How you gonna press charges you'll be fifty nine hundred
and you wont pay.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
Hold on, hold on, hold on? But it is it?
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Is it written on paper?
Speaker 1 (55:06):
They heard it? Oh yeah, they got it. We got
it on paper.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
Where is I didn't sign nothing?
Speaker 2 (55:11):
You got to sign up. We got it. We got
a verbal contract. You bet me a verbal here.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
Michael Parsons and Jerry Jones had a verbal contract.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Too, that we got this show the tape. He is
right here, this is oh Joe. I bet you all right, guys,
this time for our final segment of the evening.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
It's time for Q and A.
Speaker 4 (55:42):
And I can't wait till that get third.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Doctor Frank L. Bellamant, Hey, fam h.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
When I was watching d Boy and Joe today, all
I could do was look at dee Bo's arms and
thank Lord, he gonna kill my poor cousin.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
O Joe. Greatest edition of Shay Shaped Media. We're gonna
care who oh yo. I don't, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
I don't think she understands someone that size, with that
much muscle, they can't move. They gonna get they can't
they can't move.
Speaker 4 (56:09):
We we we get so.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
A enarrative size and big and strength and you know
lifting all that heavyweight. That don't mean nothing, That don't
mean nothing. I'm gonna take James Harrison nose and I'm
gonna turn it upside down so he could smell his
forehead like I'm not playing with him.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
This this like it's it's like it's getting serious at
this point. And in February, that's what it's going is February,
which is going down.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
Going down, going down.
Speaker 4 (56:35):
Yeah, chat chat, make sure all y'all be there too.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
I'm gonna rob Jay said, Coach Belichick is gonna be
all right. Takes time to learn the system. Frustrated fans,
this game should have been called the Poorly Dressed Head
Coaches Bowl. Bet y'all do what y'all go get with
Coach Belichick. Coach Bellichick go be weared.
Speaker 4 (56:59):
To time with no sleeves.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Chris Balla said, you could be the greatest head coach
in the world, but if you don't have the players
that can execute at a high level, you're not going
to be very good, plain and simple, Chris, that is
very very true. M as Q said, if you put
all the best current college football players, no matter they're
graduating class, on one team, could they beat the current
(57:27):
worst NFL team. No, I was hyped aheaded the ut
because he's a man in quarterback with mobility like its uncs,
not saying that he'd be like it's hope he balls
out since the first road game was against the defending champs. Yeah,
(57:49):
Trey Tyner says, Oh, jo, I heard you call fam
You the best HBCU other than you might have forgot
North Carolina A and T University Aggie Pride listen.
Speaker 3 (57:59):
I love Northline and I've been there a few times,
been there with the football team, the coaches, obviously the
band is as well. My daughter had to track meet
out there. I forgot the name of that soul food
place I got in trouble to. I took all the
football players yeah places and treated them to eat. You
sit right in in the plaza in the corner.
Speaker 4 (58:17):
Is really good.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
But the greatest HPCU of all time, you know, often imitated,
never duplicated.
Speaker 4 (58:26):
Savannah State is the lustrious, the Tigers Florida A and
M Marching one hunted.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
The Blue and Orange. Savannah State, the SSU Tigers, the
s s U Tigers.
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Oh I thought when you said su, I thought you
was talking about like the Navy and like a ship.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
Now would not be a doctor.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
I tell you the reasons why I've been a Tiger
for all my life. I'm gonna be a Tiger until
I die. It's so hard. It's so hard to be
a Tiger.
Speaker 4 (58:56):
It's so hard.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
It's so hard to be as you Dieger.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Don't play with us. Oho, we bought that. We them
all right, sound good reform. Troyharden said, how big is
coaching for you in football?
Speaker 1 (59:13):
It's very big. Uh, just from the outside looking in.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
Bama was posting videos like they're on soul trade before
the game, and we saw what happened that never happened
when the man was there a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (59:28):
Yeah, he had all the players too.
Speaker 3 (59:30):
Yes, that's the difference. He had all the players. And
we talked about a great coach. But the great coach
has great players. It's easy to be able to execute,
which is why Alabama looked like the Alabama were used
to sing. They don't look like that now because all
the players are going in different places.
Speaker 1 (59:47):
Uh you think about it, O Shoe.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
I mean he's had fifty two first round draft picks,
first round Orlando Pignon, if Jerry Jones doesn't bring in
the Cowboys. You still think the Cowboys go back to back.
That had been very, very interesting. As a matter of fact,
Michael Lohan and I was talking about that. Emmon and
I we have that discussion a lot too. They were loaded, man,
(01:00:14):
they were good, they were really good. We had to
be on our best behavior, our absolute best behavior. Absolutely,
But Jered ego, we're gonna let that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
So got in a way, still getting in a way.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Deshaun Allen said, my question is which position has the
most players in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
If I had to guess, probably quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
I was just gonna say quarterback probably, Probably, I could
be wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I mean of starting positions, probably tight ends has the fewest.
We're not counting specially lack punters and kickers and things
like that on your returners. But what do they say, safeties, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
They got the fewest.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, because you got centers
guards at all. They were considered the off its line
school bank say shout out to my birthday twins January ninth,
nineteen ninety We go into tutsis what's up?
Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
How you spell it?
Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Yeah? You want to go with us.
Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Nah, man, oh, Joe, I got to build my best
behavior on Joe. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Listen, listen, listen. Huh listen, whoa, whoa. We can't do that.
Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
We can't.
Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
What we can do is we can't go into the shell.
We are all human, we all make mistakes. You learn
for your mistakes, but you still have to live your life.
Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
You have to enjoy yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Hey, we were on the other side of the mountain.
Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Never forget. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're on the other side
of the mountain.
Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Okay, so we still have to live.
Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
You're good now.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I think about I got about I got about eight
nine more months, o Joe, I'm on probation.
Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I got a probationary period in nine more months.
Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
You got your ankle monodor on right now? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they got me, they got me. Yeah,
probably my birthday, probably about my birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Actually, pretty yeah, that is okay, pretty all right.
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Belichick's college debut does not get off to the start
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Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
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Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Peace,
Oh, Joe, Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Tom Brady said the quarterback position isn't as mentally developed
as it was when he ended the league. I don't
believe the quarterback position as mentally developed as it was
when I ended the league twenty five years ago. There
was a premium on understanding defenses, on understanding matchups, on
i'd say pre snaps reads, getting your team in and
(00:22):
out of the right play. I felt the way to
learn was to play the position over a period of time.
You truly give your team the best chance to win.
To be a field general, I think you better have
a mental advantage on the field, and I think sometimes
there's more important than physical advantage.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
O Joe. Do you agree with him? Hey? Do me?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
You said a whole lot right there that Brady said,
bring it, break it, listen, break it down to me.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
In our language.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
He says.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
There was a premium, oh, understanding defenses. You had to
understand what the defense was trying to do. So now
you go out there and you look, you're not just
looking at your guy like man, this quarters, Oh, this
is covered this. He got help over here. So you
needed to understand a pre snap. You looking at the alignment,
you're looking at that triangle. Okay, I see what y'all
(01:14):
trying to do. So he said, you guys need to
have a pre snap. You didn't have an understanding of
what's about to happen. Make sure you get your guys. Okay,
do not run a play into a safety that you
can't block. Okay, that's a negative place. So you just
gave up a down for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Flip it right. I like all a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
But listen Tom Brady speaking from a standpoint of being
number twelve, a standpoint of having the power and the
ability to be able to change plays. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,
They Drew Brees, It's a few other quarterbacks that I
can name, when they came to the line of scrimmage,
no matter how much disguising you did, no matter how
much bluffing you did based on down the distance, they
(01:55):
already know from watching film.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
They know what the hell you're doing. They know what
you're doing.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
They know exactly where each player is going to be.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yes, snap of the ball, even if.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You wait, even if you wait late and wait till
he snap the ball, and he still sees moving in
front of him, because once.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
They snap, they looking right downfield.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Okay, if you if you was down in the box
and you shoot back out, okay, this is what they
he already know what's coming. And you know every play
you run, Chad, every every offensive play you run, especially
when it's a past play, there's always somebody open, There's
always somewhere to go with the ball, and it's all
about being able to process information on what you're see
in front of you and knowing where to go with
it very fast. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees were
(02:36):
the best at it.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
They were the best.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Sometimes you gotta look at what those guys put in
because a lot of times, guys, we see a lot
of times guys, now there's more important thing than football.
Football was the most important thing to Tom Brady. It
was the most important thing to Peyton Manning. So there
was there was no life outside of that. During the season,
the most important thing was fall. They didn't play video game.
(03:02):
It wasn't no Call of Duty, it wasn't no Madden,
it wasn't no doing all this. They got all the
commercials done in the off season, so everything that was
focused was centered around how can I become the best
football player I possibly can the question you ask yourself,
is that what these quarterbacks today doing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, and also give you you have to give some
of the quarterbacks that they also you have to give
them a little grace. You have to give them a
little grace because they're.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Starting the game so young.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
They don't have the freedom to do some of the
things that Tom Brady's mentioning that takes time to develop
to even get to that point where you can recognize
everything you're seeing and trust you.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Peyton Manning was the coach, Yeah Brady was the coach.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
But they know they don't put so much time.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So listen, quarterbacks right now, they can't come up to
the line of scrimmage and see something and be like,
you know what, this isn't gonna work. We can't run
that play. Sometimes I watch it. I watched the NFL games.
Wait a minute, the defense shifted, the defensive line shifted
to the right. Change it right, you running power, stretch
to the right, right into the teeth of the defense.
(04:10):
I think some quarterbacks don't have the freedom to be
able to do that because their office of coordinators don't
trust them just yet.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Because they're young.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
No, you got you got to earn that that kind
of freedom. Early on with Peyton Manning, Yeah, they turned
the keys over to Peyton. Brady didn't even have that
kind of leadway earning his career. He earned that trust.
Drew earned that trust, Rogers earned that trust. You have
to earn that and that doesn't happen overnight.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It doesn't. Patrick Mahomes had to earn Andy's.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Trust in order to be able to be able to
audible in and out of plays, change and play, you know,
things of that nature. Uh, it's different now, Oh, Joe
I came in the league. The quarterbacks called their own plays.
It wasn't looking at the risks. They called it plays.
John Elway called his plays serious. Yes, he called the game.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Damn yes.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Wait, no officer coordinator talking to ay, he might say
what you like here?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Okay, hey, Yes, quarterbacks the old court, the old guard.
Those guys came in the league. Quarterbacks were calling at
some of the quarterbacks not all he's the quarterbacks will call.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
It the all play.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, like yeah, you gotta get out of my ear,
get out, get out of my ear. But it takes
a lot. You have to put a lot of a
lot of timing in and everybody. But like you said,
you're talking about Brady running practice. He's running, he's running
a walkthroughs, he's running seven on seven, he's running, you know,
(05:45):
two minutes, he's running running.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
No huddle.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Tom is doing those things. If a quarter if you
want a quarterback to have, you gotta let him do it.
You gotta let him do it.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I got to tell this story. I don't know if
I'm getting in trouble or not. I'm not sure if
I'm allowed to share this. I don't even care. I
don't even care.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Chat.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I'm gonna tell you about why the New England Patriots
were so goddamn good. Huh, everybody in the chat. I
know you saw the beginning of Full Metal Jacket with
the sergeant going off cursing and just a was he
was on one. In the beginning of the movie Full
Metal Jacket. One day in practice, Bill O'Brien, obviously the
(06:23):
officer of coordinator called in the plays we're in practice,
and Bill radios in the play in Tom's ear.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I'm in the huddle.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I'm assuming maybe Tom didn't get it. So Tom's sitting
there with his head down and he does one of these,
give me the play again, and Bill must have said
it again.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
He didn't hear it, because.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
The thing is, the communication must have been off, and
Tom looked back, give me the goddamn play. Bill, I
gave a fucking play already. I said it two fucking
times without didn't fucking get it.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
What the fuck you want me to do? Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
We're in the middle of practice. We're in the middle
of practice, and at that moment I.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Understood this is why.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Mm hmmm, this is why.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
The smallest things that period we were doing, where that
one play, that one play didn't work and it didn't
go right. We started the whole fucking period over. Yeah,
we started the whole period over so we can get
all the plays in succession and get it the right way.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I'm like what what?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Bill over there with the whistle on his finger.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
For yeah, talking, what are ain't running over here? It
was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
There's so many stories I can share that one. Some
of the other ones it's a little too little, too graphic,
doll we bro.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
We would go practices, the ball wouldn't touch the ground.
Mike would come out there and says, I don't expect
the ball to touch the ground.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Real ball don't touch the ground, right right, right? Boy?
Look here, people bad Look at y'all. If y'all look
like I said them nineties, roncos.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You understand like I understand why the Cowboys one in
the nineties. I understand why the the the forty nine
Ers one in the eighties and the Steelers won because
there's a level in which you practice at. Yes, not
that you get it right. You practice so you couldn't
get it wrong.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
That's a good one. That's exactly how That's.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
How we were.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And it was you're so afraid to let the man
next to you down, and he's so afraid to let
you down.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I'm not gonna be the one to drop this ball. Nah,
that ain't gonna happen to me. M m man. Oh, Joe, buh,
look at it. Look you. I've never really been around
Tom like in a game.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
We played him. I played him twice. We played him
in two thous well my first year back in Denver.
We beat him, and then they came and Tom threw
a touchdown pass with like twenty seconds to go in
the ball game to beat us. But being around him
and listening at him talk. Now you understand why he's
how he is. Yeah, you understand it, you understand, you
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understand it.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
He's an animal in film, in practice. Once he's outside
that building, completely different person.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yes, I can relax, a different person.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
He got the point well a few times. I've always
I've always told people.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Seeing Tom Brady, seeing Peyton Manning, seeing him in front
of a camera, hearing them talk, it does no justice
because they have to put on a certain facade. They
have to mask who they truly are, the fun side,
the authentic Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, So nobody really
knows who they are unless you know them personally. Yes,
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some of the greatest, some of the greatest, funniest dudes ever.
And the fact that they have to remain a certain
way once that camera's.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Rolling it is unfair.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's unfair to the world in general because you never
get to see the real them. Everything you see is
that political robot that says all the right things, that
that patriot way.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
But outside of that, Tom Funny, I.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Used to hate Joe, you know what I hate? If
somebody mess up, everybody, get Funny him best, mad, don't laugh.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Man, god man, you out there running.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I mean, somebody jump off side or somebody do something,
and we all got to run because their thought process was,
if it happens in the game, he's not the only
one that's gonna get punished.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
We get punished as.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
A unit, right right, hold on, that might be happened,
but I'm on the side, o Jo. If the offense
with Dan reeves, if the office jumped outside, even if
you had in the game, you had to run.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Wait, even if you're not in the game, yes, if.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
You're not even in practice, the offense had to run
right right.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Oh lord, listen, hey, Dann. Like one band one sound, baby,
one band one sound.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Every time you jump offside, Ojo, you had to You
had to run a lap. Lap was around both football fields.
So it's like that's four hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Man. Why I had to run three one day? O Jo?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Three? Somebody jumped off sides?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
No me.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Me, man, Lord, have mercy, damn hey boy, Dad, Dan
was old old school. You heard how people talk about
coach Landry and how those old school coaches was, That's
what Dan. Dan was the offensive coordinator for the Dallas
Cowboys under coach Landry, So he brought coach Landry style.
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If you see Dan back when he first started coaching,
he got a hat on, he got a shirt and tie,
he got a suit on, just like coach Landry. Now
he never really folded his arms like coach Landry because
Dan called the plays. Coach Landry turned, you know, turned
some of the play clawling over.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think, you know, people said that was some of
the thing between him and Roger Starbach because he didn't
really want to let the rings go. But oh, man, yeah,
but I showed. I was like, damn, I don't know
what it was, O Joe. May you know when you
get tired, O Joe, you were thinking. I was like, damn,
is it one?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Was it on one? It was it on two?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Put the ball on the ball right down your inside
of here.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But I ain't looking at the ball, man, I'm looking him,
Damn that ball.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
One thing about it where Hey, I never forgot my
coach coach boyd main Lake's Optimus nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Fatigue will make a fool of.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Us, All, yeah, absolutely will, it absolutely will. But I
remember that man all the running and then like we
have guys like the guys did that make weight in
training camp? They have to run one tens after practice.
So we've been out there for two hours, O Joe,
and you know you might have to run ten.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
You might have to run twelve. Man. You know, I run.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I run with the guys, you know, cause especially if
one of the guys is in.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
My group, one of the tight ends right right right,
or we have to run.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
We have to run after practice, so we might have
to run ten, twelve, one tens.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I'm coasting. I'm I'm cruising. Then like pick it, pick
it up? What for what? As long as I'm making it? So, y'all?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Was your team was different when my team obviously not
not me, but when we were overweight.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
You know, it costs money.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
A pound you still have to pay, but you're not
gonna pay.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
You gotta pay, and you got.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta get up off you somehow, man.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Please.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I ain't never had no problem with no weight. I
ain't never had you know, but I always I always
set my weight because I wanted something to fight for.
You know, as I started to get older, Mike would say,
eighty four. You know you sure you want to come
in with this? I mean, you can come in a
couple of pounds. I was like, nope, I want to
come in at this right here, because I'm gonna come
in and then you know, I'll come in at two
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thirty two to two thirty ish by the time the
first game started. I'm gonna be at two twenty eight
by the time the season and on be at two
twenty five already. I already know got it time got it,
planing down to the t t just like this. Know
what I'm gonna eat, I know when I'm gonna eat.
I know how much I'm gonna eat. I know how
much protein, carbohydrates fast. I know all of that. But
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I just think that, you know, that's just the discipline
what it takes, Oh Joe, to be the best, because
that's what we That's what I was trying to be.
I was trying to be the best. I don't I
don't know what somebody else was doing. All I can
do is me versus me. I'm gonna get everything I
can out is God given talent. And then hey, but
he didn't give me. I can't complain. But he did
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give me discipline and hard and work ethic to get
the most out of what I can do. Oh Joe,
what do you think the most difficult position is for
a rookie defensive position.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Oh, defensive back, Yeah, defensive back, absolutely, coming in coming,
in coming in from college. The speed of the game
has changed. The plays you got to go thin, the
players you gotta go against are a little bit more
polished than what you saw in college.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Everybody's fast.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Everybody's fast now, you know, so really understanding who's in
front of you, making sure you discipline, your eyes, your team,
everything matters now once you get to that next left.
I mean, listen, your coordinators gonna hide you sometimes, you know,
put the same thing over top of you.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I mean, man, listen, man, dB. The most difficult.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well he not when you got one on one and
you ain't got no DV over the top of you,
because did y'all I'm assuming y'all did. Hold on, I'm
trying to think, did y'all do you did one on
ones every day? Or y'all just did one on ones
on Thursday?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Uh? Probably Wednesday and Thursday.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah, yeah, and you know Wednesday, Wednesday was obviously open
field day. Yeah, Wednesday is red zone. So we'll do
red zone one on ones on Thursdays, Friday, Friday. In
the combination of both you know, practice only an hour
on Fridays.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Oh yeah, that was, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's funny that I think about, like, man, but that
was the I really truly felt that a practice is
when I was getting better. Oh sure, if I could
be the guy that sees me every day, have seen
me every day for years, what chance that guy got in.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
The game on Sunday? And none at all?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Zero?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
None at all, Bro, I don't even see you. Just
just so you know, I don't even see you all
that you're talking. Okay, got something for you, but that man,
I just but you just understand. People get to where
they need to go doing different things.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Oh yo, yeah, I was. It was the end all
be all something. Oh yo. I had teammates.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
They had to go out Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night.
They got to they got to they missing something, something
might happen and I ain't there to see it. Like, bro,
how how man I got to get man? I had
to get me like I'm in the bed, Oh yo,
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I'm in the bed at ten.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Hell, I was old, way before my time. Hell I
was in my tweeties. I was my tweeting and going
to bed at at ten.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, yeah, we we're in the same boat in the sense,
but you you were here and I was out here.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
You was like, I mean, oh man.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
It's same way without in college. Oh yo.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
When I was in college, I was a teenager. Oh
ya out to the bed at ten thirty sleep out,
Yeah out man, boy. I would come in there and
cut that light on.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I understood early in college at Langston University as Santa Monica,
going out costs. It costs money, and I ain't spending
no money, so it was easy. It was easy for
me not to go anywhere and not going anywhere gaming
my money.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
My money I had to have to spend it. It
was spent on buying games. That was it. That's where
my money went.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I mean, I didn't really watching no football games. I
would only watch a football game a Monday night game.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Oho.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
If we weren't gonna play that team during the season.
If we're gonna play a team do the season, I
ain't watching it. No, Nope, because I didn't want to
have a false sense because if they look bad, I
didn't want to, Oh, We're gonna run through them, or
if they look good, I'm like, damn, we got our
work cut out.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Mm hmm, I got you.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But I've always I've always been a guy that's gotten
the Like I said in college, I'm ten o'clock and
don't be running out of the cause you know that
that that uh, I was just reading something a kid
I think eleven year old kid in Houston just got
shot again. Ojo playing that knock knock ding ding thing,
dig ding dong ditch.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, man, he's got mad oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Guys in college, oh hoe, beat.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
On your your room though and running yet really, guys,
really listen. I I'm I'm I'm I'm one that that
was me and that listen. You talk about ding dong
ditch and you know, my condolences to the young boy
that lost his life in Houston doing that, But I
was doing that too back in the city. I'll never
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forget Scott Projects, Scott Projects.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Me and Snoop Minutes. I don't know if you remember
Marvin Minus Yeah heard of man.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
We was little kids man in the Scott Projects man
knock knock knocked, taking off h Remember them days, some
good days.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
That was like my my, my, my rook my freshman year,
when I got to when I got to.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Be a sophomore. Yeah, and I was I was the
b M O c R. Don't do that. We're b
M C stand for big man on campus.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Okay, okay, okay that boy, huh okay.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah my side for
my side, but yeah and definitely my junior CI year.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Oh yeah. May y'all know. May y'all know how Sean
feels man. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Nah nah nah, oh Joe. I'm just I just but
I needed my rest. I don't I done, did look,
I don't practice my ass off, Coach David. That had
us out there for two two and a half hours.
I done, gone to study hall, did my homework.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I'm out. Oh so I got to get up at
seven in the morning.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I got class at eight, So I got to get up, shower,
put my clothes on, go to the cafeteria and eat breakfast.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Time out, Time out.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
You schedule your classes for early.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
In the morning.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh boy, ain't look here, Bill said Bill. David, say
look here, you ain't on no academic scholarship. You're in
a football scholarship.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
You couldn't have no class. You couldn't have no class.
The ladies, you could have a class. We had practice
at we had practice at three the latest, be absolute latest, right.
Bill didn't want Coach David didn't want you to have
a class afternoon. My class was eight, eight to nine,
nine to ten, ten to eleven, eleven or twelve. I
go eat, thirty minutes to eat, then I go get me,
go get me an hour to half nap, get up walk.
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We had to walk to practice. We couldn't drive the practice.
Had to walk to practice, which is like maybe half
a mile. Practice for two two and a half hours.
Go to the cafeteria, eat, go shower, go do my homework.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Ten o'clock, ten thirty lights out. You better than me.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I wouldn't I get up early, but I ain't getting
up to go to no class.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
The only problem that coach that look Coach Davis. I
love Coach Davis today. The only time, the only time
here and I butted his five am workouts. That's the
only time. That's the only time I've ever told the
coach coach, I ain't gonna do.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
It five am.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
But it's not the it's not the military. That's like,
that's like army, that's like you know, nah that they
tripping man.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You know you had the all season workouts. Oh yo,
five o'clock me getting up early. Oh Joe, it's just
like ruined my date. I feel like I'm sluggish the
rest of the day.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
You have to get up early.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, man, I.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Hated it, and plus I had had to get up
my senior year before I went to Savannah State. Oh Joe,
we had we did construct, We did construction, we did landscaping,
and I had to work in Savannah and I lived
in glenber which is sixty five miles away. We got
to be on the job at six am. So the
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guy picking me up at four thirty. I said, noah, man,
I ain't doing that, said coach, I can't do it. Coach, So,
coach I can't do I said, Coach, I can't do it.
A guy is a damn homes He said, you're the leader.
I said, well, coach, I'm gonna have to leave from
the bed. I'm about to leave from my door room
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and I was. He didn't bother me because he know
what I was there for. I was very specific. When
he came to recruit me at Savannah State. He came
to my house to sign me that morning. When I
sent a coach, I called him and said, coach, I
want to sign with Savannah State. He said, I'm gonna
put some clothes on. I'm coming right now. I said, no, Coach,
you can come in the morning. I was very intentional
about what I wanted. I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
He can't do that. What I can do is what
I can do.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Tom Brady says Aaron Rodgers is the most talented quarterback
in NFL history. Aaron and his prime to me, is
the greatest pastor of the football the league has ever seen.
He could get the ball from point A to point
B faster and more accurate than any player in NFL history.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You agree, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
And you know, if anything, you might want to throw
Brett fav in it too.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I don't think Brett was a great thrower of the football.
When I think of great throwers of the football, I'm
looking at a guy like Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I'm looking at a guy like Dan Marino. Danny.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Wait, you don't put whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
You don't put bread in that conversation.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Not a great football, no, But I understand what he's
saying when he when he talks about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Though the slots, the angles, in which he can throw
the ball from the.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Platform, every last one from up here all the way
down to the side arm It didn't matter. And he
was accurate as hell, Yes, accurate as hell.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Obviously, and especially Aaron Rodgers mechanics, his footwork.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
That's not teaching.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
You don't teach that, you cannot. You would never that he.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Throwing off one foot, he throwing going back because he
has arm strength to do it. He has arm strength
to be able to get away with some of the
stuff that he does. Anything Aaron Rodgers like when it
comes to playing the quarterback position, you can teach you
because the only one that can get away with it
because he has the army.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
But I still, to me, the greatest NFL season by
a quarterback is day In season in eighty four.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, but his offense, yeah, fifty fifty.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
He threw for forty eight touchdowns, five thousand yards. In
that era when you could knock hell out of the quarterback,
you could knock hell out of the receivers, and.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
He did that.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That's still the greatest. For that's that is Joe Burroughs
season his last year at LSU. That's that's what that
would be the equivalent of you gotta go back and
look like I said, back back back then the defenses
could punish the quarterback. I'm talking about annihilate them. There
wasn't no Well you know, you hit him in the bag,
you hit him in his knees, you hit him below
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the waist, and yeah, that was the greatest season. But
I won't I won't argue with Tom on this one.
Aaron Rodgers the way he could, the platforms, the arms,
slots that which he could throw the ball from, and
the accuracy in which he can throw from any angle
on the field. He said it none of I mean,
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he's gifted. Ys gifted.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And the funny thing about it, a lot of people,
a lot of people say, oh, Aaron Rodgers trash like
I if you.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Watch the game of football.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
But Aaron was in his primate Green Break with Donald Driver,
Jordy Nelson, Davonte Adams man.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Oh he had Greg Jennings, Greg Jennings, James Johnson.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yes, well he is slang it boy, Uh he is
slinging damn just thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Ceede Lamb.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
The nounced rumors that Michael Parks was considered both egotistical
and self centered.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
That's my dog. He knows it.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I expressed to him just about every week I could,
so he knows. So I feel like he knows where
we stand as far as the brotherhood, friendship and all that.
So obviously wishing him the best, hope he has the
best season ever. Trey Vun Diggs felt everyone in Dallas
currently locker room like micaeh and he indicated that the
feud for those rumors likely came from former Cowboys. He
didn't name name, but it's pretty clear Diggs was referred
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to Marcus Lawrence. I think everyone liked him. I feel
there were some former players who are not here no
more who didn't like Michael And there's.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
A lot of that.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I would say, hey, jealousy every towards hell because of
who he is and the production that he does on
the field. Imagine if you could come here like and
you're talking like somebody shining or taking somebody's spot, You're
not going to like that. They're going to feel some
type of way, especially you're that type of person. The
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greater the person, listen, because sometimes I think people the
greater the athlete, the greater the individual, the bigger the ego.
Quarterbacks have the biggest ego. They do the best job
of hiding it. The greater the person, the greater the player,
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the more accomplished the person is. So so are we
saying that Beyonce and Taylor Swift ain't got no ego?
Are we saying Drake, Michael Jackson, Whitney and Mariah ain't
have no ego? Are we saying are we saying, uh,
Elon Musk and who whomever? Got no ego? So we
saying Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Lawrence Taylor, Jim Brown.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Ain't have no ego?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
They all do.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
The greater the person, the more accomplished the person.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Or successful, yeah, all of them.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Man, what we do, what we're doing here, everybody's not
gonna be liked.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And that's okay.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
What you do with what you do when you get
on the field, bro, as long as you ain't a jerk,
not as long as you not do you know, doing
anything that's gonna that's gonna harm the locker room or
call a fraction.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
In the locker room. Bro, I don't care nothing about that, brother. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
First of all, I ain't going I ain't going to
your house like that anyway. So what you do I
don't care you leave. Look, this is my locker right here.
Oh ya, this my locker right here. Long as you
don't f with nothing in my locker, I don't give
damn what you do. I ain't messing with nothing in
your locker. You got a job to do. I got
a job to do.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
How you do. We don't have to be friends. We
canna be friendly.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, I mean it's a locker room. You got fifty
three people. You got fifty three people. Everybody's not gonna
get along. Yeah, everybody's not gonna get along. You're gonna
have egos, you're gonna have you have, You're gonna have
people with pride, You're gonna have jealousy, you know. And
it's just it's always it's always been a part of sports,
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has always been a part of the locker rooms. It's
always been a part of teens in general. You're not
gonna like everybody. You're not there. This is it's not
a liking contest. You're there for one job.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Do your job. I like you. I like you more
if you do your job good. I like you.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
He were more. But look, look I don't you know.
Clearly CD and Digs has a fondness to with Michael.
I've been around him a little bit. I don't have
no problem with Michael, never had a problem with it.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
He's a funny, funny dude.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
That's why hear and hearing anything come up about ego
and he's especially when it comes to him.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
He's a he's a funny guy. He's young. You know,
it's weird.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
It's funny how everything comes out when someone actually leaves.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
We knew that was gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Funny how that works.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You know, you ever noticed the guy was, Oh he
was a problem on the job fifteen for twenty years.
Ain't nobody to say nothing. The mum was somebody lead. Yeah, yeah,
he was a problem.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah, he was probably the best one on the job too.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yes, at that.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
The Miami Dolphins announced their captains for the twenty twenty
five season Monday, but there's one glare omission. For the
first time since joining the team in twenty twenty two,
Tyreek Hill was not voted a captain by his teammates.
Reek himself suggested this offseason that he likely would not
be a captain this year due to his action at
the end of the twenty twenty four regular season when
he removed himself from a game from the finale and
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hinted after the game that he wanted to play elsewhere.
Mike McDonald had a very revealing quote, I'm really excited
about the whole voting process in general. This year, the
team was much more unified and the focus was on
those six guys was very clear. Those were resounding vote getters.
We were focused on giving the keys to captaincy to
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guys that had earned it each and every day.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
That speaks.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
That speaks to me the most if football team that
knows who it wants to be led.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
By, and that's cute. That's cute, It's commendable. You know,
having your peers on your team, you know, vot as
the captain.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, you know, that'd be nice. Man, I wanted the
captain c on my jersey.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
But honestly, for me, my Dolphins, my Dolphins, and those
of you in the chat, I'm from Liberty City, born
in Jackson Memorial Hospital on Crth Avenue. What I care
about is my Dolphins playing well in the postseason. Is
my Dolphins playing well when they play against teams that
are above five hundred. Is my Dolphins playing well, when
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the weather's below fifty degrees, I don't care who's carrying
that sea on that goddamn chest. I just want us
to be able to execute offensively and defensively when it
matters most.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
But look, there's no way it'd have been a joke.
If he did what he did and he turns around
the following you and he needs a captain, couldn't happen.
They weren't gonna let that happen, O Joe. Even if
he'd got even if he got fifty two votes, he
was gonna be no captain. They wouldn't let that happen.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
O Joe. You know that. I know that, we know
how it worked. We know who they want to be captains. Okay, okay, okay, okay,
we on the same page. Were here, yeah, were here? Yeah.
But look, look, uh, I think learned a valuable lesson.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I think if he had to do it all over again,
he definitely would do it a different way.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
He's going through some stuff right now. Rik.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Uh, My heart goes. I tell you, because I think
you're a phenomenal player. I absolutely do, And I know
there's a that's a lot on your mind, anybody you know,
and being there, it's gonna be Hey, don't don't work, bro.
It's easy to say tell somebody not to worry about
something when they're not going through it, But when you
going through it, m.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
So, I mean it's tough because like you do things
like you in it.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Oo, he's like in the minute you do, you're like, damn,
but I don't, I don't, I don't. I mean, Reek
was in a great situation when he went to Miami.
That's where he wanted to go. I mean, they could
have traded him someplace else. They ask him. I mean, think,
o Jo, think about this, Ojo. They asked you where
you want to go? You want to go to the
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Jesse You want to go to the Dolphins. Yeah, they
put it where he wanted to be. And I get it.
When you had the season come off, he led the
league in receiving. He was Hey, remember last year, o Joe.
He was the number one player voted by his peers,
in the top one hundred. Yeah, your quarterback gets nigged.
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You're not the same riek people like you lost. You know,
he didn't lose it nothing. It just it's just that
you know, his quarterback got hurt. He's dependent on a
quarterback that's injury prone. The guy's been injured prone since college.
He limped into the NFL. He probably gonna limp out
of it. He had a lot of injuries when he
was when he was in Alabama, Ojo, you know, he
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had the tight rope surgery on his ankle, he had
to dislocated hill, he had the.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Injury the pinky. He had an injury history.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
And guess what, he's had a concussion or I don't
know if you want to say concussions are injury. But
he's had a history since he's been with the Dolphins.
And Tyreek's future is tied his success, his production is
tied to a guy that's injury prone. It's kind of like, oh, Joe,
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you reliant on somebody that's unreliable to get you to work.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Man, it's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And then he didn't make it no better because he
could have just went there and says like, I'm happy
to be in Miami. Is great, great weather, great team.
By every chance he gets, he tried to take a
shot at Mahomes. Oh to it is more distant, Mahmes.
This is that and this, bro, you don't need to
do that, nobody. You're not, even though you played with both,
You're not going to convince anybody that to it is
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a better quarterback than my Homes.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
You're not. So why you try to do that.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I believe you could, Oh yo, I believe you can
prop one guy up without trying to put another guy down.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, well that in that situation, that's not putting a
guy down, because you can't put my Homes down, especially
in that comparison.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
When it comes to the quarterback position.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
But I think Riek has a lot to prove this year,
especially come out last year. Obviously them not voting him
a captain. Boom, that's another one. Okay, y'all didn't want
to vote me a captain. Okay, hold my beer, watch this,
Watch this, mhla.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
I hope so go slap.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Off because I mean, you know, he's a special talent.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
There are not very many guys that's been played in
the history of the game that had his God given
ability that can take a rock, that can take any
route on the fiel and he's literally he's a legitimate
threat to hit his head on the goal post.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Now we tell that, Oh you give him a five. No, no, no,
no, no no. There've only been a handful of.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Guys that can literally take any type of route that
you give them, and you can.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Strike up the band every time.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
And you see that, you see you see that he's
doing that the band player, and and Reek has that accountability.
He just needs to get back to that and hopefully
he can focus. I think being on the field, it
allows you to, like tonel Viso, it allows you to go,
you lucky and you got to compartmentalize. That's really good
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with a grade at it.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
That's the one place does matter what's going on in life.
You know, once I get to that stadium, once I
get to that grass, it's different.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Everything else is left outside.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
No, no, I know somebody said you put to it
to put Tyreek up. No, I just said, he's not Mahomes.
He's a good quarterback. He's not Mahomes. And Tyreek's a
production is tied to a guy that's injury prone. Did
I like, how many concussions has he had? How many
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times did he get injured at the University of Alabama.
I'm just giving you facts. I ain't say he wasn't
he a bad player. He a terrible player. That's not
what I said. I said Tyreek's production is tied to
a quarterback that's injury prone.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
That's factual. That ain't no, That ain't that ain't no.
You know, stretching the truth. That's not a lie. That
is just factually correct.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
And maybe Tyreek wouldn't have seventeen eighteen hundred yards because
he got killed and he got other guys. But if
you go back and look at it, look at his production,
it's thirteen hundred, it's fourteen hundred, it's fifteen hundred, it's
thirteen hundred, it's fourteen hundred, have though it didn't have
eighteen hundred and then nine hundred?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Right? You know what I'm saying that, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
O jo Hey, I mean, you don't want to have
no sixteen hundred one year than a thousand, twelve hundred
one year, then eight hundred. Nah, you wanna be consistently, Hey,
let me be somewhere that consistent. Let me be eleven
to twelve thirteen hundred. I can live with that now
one year if I won't have, you know, have one
of your bust out of years, I get me two
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or three two hundred yard games.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I'll be on to something.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
But nah, I just think the thing is in like,
you know, your emotional things didn't go your way. You're like, damn,
I'm gonna get one hundred yards. I want to continue
my thousand, my thousand, you know yard seasons. Ohoe, that's
gonna come to an end. Damn, we're gonna miss the playoff.
That's gonna come to an end.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah. And he just got fussed, It got frustrated, and
it bubbled up.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
That's all. It bubbled up. Made a mistake. He'll probably
tell you. He'd tell and he said it. You know,
I should have handled that differently. Wish I to handle
it differently, and uh, you know, lesson learn And uh
I believe, I believe you. I believe he learned his lesson.
I do.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Absolutely, he's gonna bounce back.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
But and I think McDonald says that, you know, let's
not focus on who didn't make it as captain. Let's
talk about the guys that did make it as captain.
They're deserving better captains. That's who they want to lead.
Bradley Chubb. It's time for Chubb to come out there
and you know, play like the Chubb like they they
gave up the draft picks for it to get him
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from Denver.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
It's time for him to play.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
It's time for him to show, because it looks like,
oh joy, they kind of taking this thing apart. They
let you know, Kalais Campbell go, They let Jalen Ramsey go,
they let some of the you know, they let Christian
Wilkins go a few years ago. So it seems like,
you know, the going for it, going for it, going
for it now they're like, uh.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
They're getting young and young mm hmm, getting younger and younger.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, So we'll see what it works out for your
Dolphins this year. Shador Sanders seems to have it seems
to be the talk of college football after arch Manning's
disapporting debut, Fans of calling out the double standard for
Archie Mannings pro debut, poor debut versus Ohio State being
excused while hr Duer wouldn't have gotten the same grace
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at Colorado. Why don't y'all call it arch Manning NEPO baby,
like y'all did it's your door in Brownie o Jo.
It's Archie Manning getting a free pass from the media
just because of his last name, while your duer would
have been torn apart for the same performance.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Woo.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, I mean obviously, I mean that's the way it's
always been. That's the way it's always been. I think
watching Dan Olofsky, Dan made some some some good excuses
up the here, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
For he did it.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah, for for Ars and the way the way Ars played,
And obviously it's just it's just the makeup make the
makeup of the media and makeup is the DNA and
in which the way they treat certain quarterbacks depending on
who it is, and they give him grace they get
they give him.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Grace all the time. And this happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
It does.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Some people will turn the blind eye to it and say, oh,
that's not true. They'll come up with some damn conspiracy
theory when it's like right there, right there, in your face,
in your face, what are you talking about. Yes, they're
going to continue to make excuses for him if he
has another bad game. I think obviously now that I
think now that they've played Ohio State, some of the
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games leading forward going forward will be a little bit
more easier and boom, they don't They're gonna be right
back to you know, talking good about him, and we
told you he was a generational talent. That's that they're
gonna go right back into it. But I mean, that's
that's that's neither here nor there. I think he's gonna
continue to get better. Obviously opening up a season with
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a team like that, if it's someone that's that's that's
been under the hem, been on the center for for
two or three years consistently, as opposed this your first
year starting against Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Mm hmmm, and please, Well, but.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Here's the thing, Oyoe, those are the kind of throw
that's that's who I want to see it make those
throws against So what the hell you think they So?
Speaker 4 (44:17):
What the hell you think the NFL is every week thing?
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Just think? Just think about it, O Joe.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
If you go out there and you play a good
a good inferior talent, but when the talent is on
your level or better and you lay ads, what does
that say about you? Look, it's a one time thing.
It can be a one time thing. But we can
point out the fact that he didn't play well. Yeah,
because I'm not He might go on and come back
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and he might win the Heisman. But two things can
you know? Two things can be true. He cannot have
played well against Ohio State and still play well enough
the rest of the season to win the Heisman or
win the SEC or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Two things can be true.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
When shaduor played, I said, oh yo, look, it still
bothers me that he bails too much. It still bothers
me that he holds onto the ball. It still bothers me.
We can give credit. He made some big time throws.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Oyoh. I love the dagger throw.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
I love to throw where he threaded the need and
he let the seven route for the first touchdown. I
love the over routes that he throw. We see a
lot of those from Rock Party. I say, but but
Ojo still holds onto the ball too long? Long man,
I thought you. I thought you was supposed to be coach,
Brian boy. Why because my job is a critique and analyzed.
Two things can be true.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
I can be Times boy and still critique his son
and say there are some things that are concerning for me. Yeah,
that's how the job works.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
You give credit wind due and then when someone you
see something, you're like, okay, yeah, he played well, but
there's some things that he Let's go ahead and correct
these now before they bite you at the most inopportunity
of times.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
See, people want you to like.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
If oh that's your boy. No, oh oh time your boy,
you kill it? Not No, that was a poor game
on Saturday. Yeah, I mean what there was that Friday
that they played? That was Friday that Georgia take played
right Friday? I said, I said, I said that as
soon as we got on somehow what was that about
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a minute seven seconds? You got two timeouts? You throw
one pass behind the line of screaming that got tack
of you. You don't take a time out. Yeah, I said that.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Oh oh, oh your boy? Oh you killing your boy? Now?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I remember last year you he could do no wrong. No,
when you're doing right, you pouring out the right. But
when he does wrong, you pouring out the wrong. That's
what you do fair time and time will tell you.
And like he had so many times, one thing, you're
gonna you gonna know, you're gonna you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Call it now.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Is I expect that I'm your boy, you call it
your boy, so you better call it over everybody else.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
And he's absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Do you think Arch would ever fall to the fifth round,
but they'll do away with the draft.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Bad stop it, who y'all, who y'all try to keep.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
It and stop playing.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
That ain't happening. That is happening.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
But I can see a scenario he comes back because
the manning is normally normally four years now. Obviously that's
not Peyton, that's not Eli. But you know they're normally
very scripted, very methodical about how they're gonna do things.
Oh yo, strategic and and plus o Joe. His family
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is not in dire need of anything. A lot of times,
these families, you know, it's like bro mom in the projects,
grandma over here, ain't no fool in the refrigerator, the
house league, and we come on brot here. Yeah, and
I understand. I totally understand brother. I think my brother
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told the uh.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
The story.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
I think he said on my podcast because he thought
about coming out as a junior, and they ask him
why he didn't come out. He said, we had been
poor for twenty two years. Eight more months won't gonna
hurt nothing.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
He was right. Hey, I had been going to the
woods oyo for nineteen years.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
Use the bathroom, mam, Yes.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
I had dipped the bucket down in the well, pull
it up, poured it something to take.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
It to the house.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I had been running the hole inside of the house
and put it in the tin tub. Let the sun
heat it up. Take me a bath in the backyard.
Couldn't nobody see what number woods? Someone was bad? Cause
I'm skit to tear you up? O yo, I mean
think about it. Oh Joe, you gotta take the rage.
Try to put you a shield around hear him? Take
you a quick bath because I'm skiny board. They like
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they had swords bad. No, but I but I but I,
but I understand, I understand. Our job is to get better.
He went to Texas because of the success that Sark
has with working with quarterbacks. He could have gone anywhere,
but he chose Texas for a reason. And it's not
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it's not by accident. So could I see a scenario
where he stays another year?
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (49:35):
And we gotta look. He didn't beat yours out for
the job. Yours were the were the seventh round pick?
What what what round did yours get? Drafted sixth to seventh?
Speaker 4 (49:50):
Right, he went to the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
I forgot where round he went.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
He went seventh.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
But I think hold on, I think Derek car was
the first, the first overall pick, and he couldn't beat
Billy Bollick out. See if Billy Bollick went to a
Fresno State v O l e K. I think that's Bulleck.
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Derek Carr played with the Tennessee Titans. Yeah, I know
he didn't he go to Fresno State. Didn't Derek Carr
come behind him? I don't think Derek Carr beat him out,
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So it's not I mean, Joe Burrow transferred, became the
number one pick, Jameson Williams transferred, become a number one
Pickoe Burrow was the number one picking the entire draft.
Couldn't get no shine at Ohio State. But that's it,
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kid O Joe, Yeah, you're right, right, So this notion
where he didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Things happened. So you're saying Joe Burr's not even good
because he couldn't beat who? Uh? I forget the guy?
Speaker 2 (51:19):
What was it? I think it was the guy that
passed away? Ojo Uh the black guy that got got.
Speaker 4 (51:26):
Hit Dwayne Haskins.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yes, yes, things happened, Yeah, Ojoe Vegas has Lamar Jackson
at the back.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
He's back on top for the MVP odds, the.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Ranting MVP Josh Allen and Joe Burrow our hairs beneath
him at plus six hundred, Patrick Mahomes rounding out the
top four at plus six point fifty. Is this the
year Lamar puts it all together? When MVP and Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (51:57):
I mean, it could be the year.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
It could be the year if, if.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
If it was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
This is the funny thing when it comes about, when
it comes to not just Lamar Jackson, but Josh Allen
and all those other quarterbacks in the AFC, It's only
come the same, the same, same for the same, for same.
For now, What Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs?
What Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs? That's
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all that matters, because we knowbody gonna do in the
regular season. Yes we're gonna put up crazy numbers, Yes
I'm gonna rush for crazy numbers. But what Lamar Jackson, whatever,
Lamar Jackson be getting the postseason? That will be if
those odds in Vegas come come true.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
That's all they come down to.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
That's all, And that's all I've said. I said I
want to see the Lamar Jackson that's won the MVP
or finish second. We have yet to see that guy
for the totality of the playoffs. We've seen it for
a game, oh Joe, But we need to see it
for the total talented because we saw it last year.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
They did. He turned the ball O. He din't turned
the ball over.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
For like eight nine games, right, and then he had
two big turnovers and that was you know, some of
that's undo it like look and I get it.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Such an hold on to the ball.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Zay Flowers fumbled on the one, but he did give
the he did give the chiefs of short field. He
got stripped in the pocket. I just need Lamar to
be Lamar in the postseason that he was in the
regular season. I don't need anything else. I don't need
to be I don't need anything else, O Joe. I
don't need him to be anything other than what he's
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shown us for the seventeen eight for the seventeen games
in the regular season. If he's that, if he's that player,
can't nobody beat the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (53:43):
Nobody, Nah well, I don't know about nobody.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Oh Joe. The man threw forty one touchdown for four picks.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
Hold on, hold on, now, don't jump on me. Don't
jump on me.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
This is a new season with everything you just name.
It is what he did last year. Now I'm not
saying he can't repeat it, but there's a team he
has to deal within.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
The AFC North.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
On, y'all come again. They own y'all. Lamar Jackson owned
the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
I let me do something. Is the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
That's your team or you you're supposed to be team
that you spent two weeks at two years, Okay, two years,
two weeks.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
It's all the same. You want the best something on
that game.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Oh Joe, it's kind of hard for you to borrow
money when you owe money.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Who huh?
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Oh you know hey, listen, I'm good for it. Like
when I go when I go to casino, they just him.
They just give me what I want because they understand. Oh,
oh Joe, you here, Oh we know, we know we're
gonna take care of you what you need.
Speaker 4 (54:49):
No push your money line.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
I have a file of what you call him on you.
I'm fire, I'm pressed charges on you.
Speaker 4 (54:57):
I ain't do nothing.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
How you gonna press charges you'll be fifty nine hundred
and you wont pay.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
Hold on, hold on, hold on? But it is it?
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Is it written on paper?
Speaker 1 (55:06):
They heard it? Oh yeah, they got it. We got
it on paper.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
Where is I didn't sign nothing?
Speaker 2 (55:11):
You got to sign up. We got it. We got
a verbal contract. You bet me a verbal here.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
Michael Parsons and Jerry Jones had a verbal contract.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Too, that we got this show the tape. He is
right here, this is oh Joe. I bet you all right, guys,
this time for our final segment of the evening.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
It's time for Q and A.
Speaker 4 (55:42):
And I can't wait till that get third.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Doctor Frank L. Bellamant, Hey, fam h.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
When I was watching d Boy and Joe today, all
I could do was look at dee Bo's arms and
thank Lord, he gonna kill my poor cousin.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
O Joe. Greatest edition of Shay Shaped Media. We're gonna
care who oh yo. I don't, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
I don't think she understands someone that size, with that
much muscle, they can't move. They gonna get they can't
they can't move.
Speaker 4 (56:09):
We we we get so.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
A enarrative size and big and strength and you know
lifting all that heavyweight. That don't mean nothing, That don't
mean nothing. I'm gonna take James Harrison nose and I'm
gonna turn it upside down so he could smell his
forehead like I'm not playing with him.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
This this like it's it's like it's getting serious at
this point. And in February, that's what it's going is February,
which is going down.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
Going down, going down.
Speaker 4 (56:35):
Yeah, chat chat, make sure all y'all be there too.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
I'm gonna rob Jay said, Coach Belichick is gonna be
all right. Takes time to learn the system. Frustrated fans,
this game should have been called the Poorly Dressed Head
Coaches Bowl. Bet y'all do what y'all go get with
Coach Belichick. Coach Bellichick go be weared.
Speaker 4 (56:59):
To time with no sleeves.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Chris Balla said, you could be the greatest head coach
in the world, but if you don't have the players
that can execute at a high level, you're not going
to be very good, plain and simple, Chris, that is
very very true. M as Q said, if you put
all the best current college football players, no matter they're
graduating class, on one team, could they beat the current
(57:27):
worst NFL team. No, I was hyped aheaded the ut
because he's a man in quarterback with mobility like its uncs,
not saying that he'd be like it's hope he balls
out since the first road game was against the defending champs. Yeah,
(57:49):
Trey Tyner says, Oh, jo, I heard you call fam
You the best HBCU other than you might have forgot
North Carolina A and T University Aggie Pride listen.
Speaker 3 (57:59):
I love Northline and I've been there a few times,
been there with the football team, the coaches, obviously the
band is as well. My daughter had to track meet
out there. I forgot the name of that soul food
place I got in trouble to. I took all the
football players yeah places and treated them to eat. You
sit right in in the plaza in the corner.
Speaker 4 (58:17):
Is really good.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
But the greatest HPCU of all time, you know, often imitated,
never duplicated.
Speaker 4 (58:26):
Savannah State is the lustrious, the Tigers Florida A and
M Marching one hunted.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
The Blue and Orange. Savannah State, the SSU Tigers, the
s s U Tigers.
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Oh I thought when you said su, I thought you
was talking about like the Navy and like a ship.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
Now would not be a doctor.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
I tell you the reasons why I've been a Tiger
for all my life. I'm gonna be a Tiger until
I die. It's so hard. It's so hard to be
a Tiger.
Speaker 4 (58:56):
It's so hard.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
It's so hard to be as you Dieger.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Don't play with us. Oho, we bought that. We them
all right, sound good reform. Troyharden said, how big is
coaching for you in football?
Speaker 1 (59:13):
It's very big. Uh, just from the outside looking in.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
Bama was posting videos like they're on soul trade before
the game, and we saw what happened that never happened
when the man was there a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (59:28):
Yeah, he had all the players too.
Speaker 3 (59:30):
Yes, that's the difference. He had all the players. And
we talked about a great coach. But the great coach
has great players. It's easy to be able to execute,
which is why Alabama looked like the Alabama were used
to sing. They don't look like that now because all
the players are going in different places.
Speaker 1 (59:47):
Uh you think about it, O Shoe.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
I mean he's had fifty two first round draft picks,
first round Orlando Pignon, if Jerry Jones doesn't bring in
the Cowboys. You still think the Cowboys go back to back.
That had been very, very interesting. As a matter of fact,
Michael Lohan and I was talking about that. Emmon and
I we have that discussion a lot too. They were loaded, man,
(01:00:14):
they were good, they were really good. We had to
be on our best behavior, our absolute best behavior. Absolutely,
But Jered ego, we're gonna let that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
So got in a way, still getting in a way.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Deshaun Allen said, my question is which position has the
most players in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
If I had to guess, probably quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
I was just gonna say quarterback probably, Probably, I could
be wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I mean of starting positions, probably tight ends has the fewest.
We're not counting specially lack punters and kickers and things
like that on your returners. But what do they say, safeties, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
They got the fewest.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, because you got centers
guards at all. They were considered the off its line
school bank say shout out to my birthday twins January ninth,
nineteen ninety We go into tutsis what's up?
Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
How you spell it?
Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Yeah? You want to go with us.
Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Nah, man, oh, Joe, I got to build my best
behavior on Joe. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Listen, listen, listen. Huh listen, whoa, whoa. We can't do that.
Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
We can't.
Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
What we can do is we can't go into the shell.
We are all human, we all make mistakes. You learn
for your mistakes, but you still have to live your life.
Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
You have to enjoy yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Hey, we were on the other side of the mountain.
Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Never forget. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're on the other side
of the mountain.
Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Okay, so we still have to live.
Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
You're good now.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I think about I got about I got about eight
nine more months, o Joe, I'm on probation.
Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I got a probationary period in nine more months.
Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
You got your ankle monodor on right now? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they got me, they got me. Yeah,
probably my birthday, probably about my birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Actually, pretty yeah, that is okay, pretty all right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
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Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite on Shannon Sharp.
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Want to thank our very very special guest, Hall of
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they gonna talk about this game. This happened tonight TCU
in North Carolina TCU forty eight North Carolina fourteen. Coach
Belichick's college debut does not get off to the start
that he had hoped for. I am up, He's oho.
We will see We're off the next two days. We're
off Tomorrow and Wednesday.
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