Nightcap Hour 2: WBC STRIPS Bud Crawford of TITLE BELT + Boxer Alycia Baumgardner joins NIGHTCAP + OBJ RESPONDS to CRITICS on SPENDING HABITS + Abdul Carter HASN’T LEARNED his LESSON

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh Joe, Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
The WBC strip Bud Crawford for not playing sanctioning bodies.
Um he won the title. Mmm up, Okay, hold on,
we know what happened, Bud. It goes off on the WBC.
Crawford says, all the sanctioning bodies accepted what he paid them,

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and he's not paying three hundred thousand dollars to in
a sanction in fee.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
To the WBC. The WBC says he owes.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
According to the WBC, Crawford allegedly earned fifty million dollars
for that fight. Appreciating the magnitude of the event, the
WBC modified this rule to limit the boxers bout fee
to zero point six percent sanctioning fee instead of the
typical three percent the WBC rules regulations require. The WBC

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was going to allocate seventy five percent of the Crawlford
boxing bout to the Jose Suleiman Boxing Fund, which goes
to go to fighters that you know that's down in
their luckness, you know what case may be with. The
w b C had no choice but the act. Considering
champion Crawford had received multiple received ample notifications and multiple
opportunities to address and resolve the situation the w b

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C C now on the line between Christian Mabili.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh yeah, that's what we saw.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah he knocked out and he just
knocked out somebody recently. I can't, I can uh.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
He was the dude, remember he was fighting was they
was throwing them makers.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, and it was a draw.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
He had a draw the last fight that was the
one before Bud the black dude, the African dude. Yeah
uh and her mask chariz uh in a mandatory bout
damn man.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
But and and Bud responded to Bud responded. He talked
about he talked about all the all the other title
title holders, you know, w b O. He axcepted what
he gave them. Yeah, he said every everybody accepted the
same amount of money after those fights. And for some reason,
regards to what was written, regards to what you just read,

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they wanted they wanted more for him to be able
to attain and hold on to the w w b
C bell And he was like, nah, I'm not paying more.
And then they want to apology of some sort. And
I mean it's a mess, but I mean I I
I understand it. I can see it from Crawford standpoint
in a sense, obviously something is wrong with it and

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he doesn't see fit and for him to go off
the way he did, which is uncharacteristic of him, a
very uncharacteristic of him. So I mean, I obviously I
have no choice but to be on his side because
this is something that he wouldn't do.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, you gotta pay the you gotta pay the box.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
You gotta pay the bells cost. Joe. Yeah, Joe, you
gotta you gotta pay.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
You got hold on. So because I seen when buyd won,
he went back and gave. Dude, he went back and gave,
he gave, because.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, they make new belts, but when they make the belt,
you gotta pay for them bells. Why yeah, yeah, Well
you see fighters coming to the ring. You got to
pay a sanction to feed for the belts, Joe, the Keith.
And if you don't pay the feed, then they take them,
they take.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Them from you.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
You don't fight the mandatory, they'll take the bell from you.
You don't pay the sanction and feed, they'll take them
from you.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, that's that's crazy. I mean, listen, that's that's the
way the game has always been. That way. The game
has always been that way, but he just did.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Always been funny style.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
To be honest with you, it's funny, you know, the
one putting their life on the line and getting in there,
getting in the ring, the one put going into camp
doing the work three months out the year. And I listen,
it's it's it's it's boxing. It's the way it's always been.
I just I guess he just didn't see fit to
pay the amount that they wanted when everyone else agreed

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to the mount he paid for the other the other
fees he's paid. He just he just wasn't willing to
do so.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
It's tough man, Look busy man. Look here, I ain't
give y'all know no more money. I'm cool. And another thing, Canelo,
you want to rematch?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
I want to. I want a hundred million. I will
be the side this time around. Listen, he's the A side, Joe.
He's the A side from now on. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I mean that that's what one more time about Joe.
I mean because because work, where can he make money?
I mean, at that point in time, you make a
one hundred million, it's hard to go back down to
make ten.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Two more, two more. Because the fact that he can,
I say, I mean, honestly, I'm not sure who's out
there for him to fight now. Uh, maybe a rematch
with Canelo, and I think fight that a fight that
everyone wants to see in the fact that he gets
to command how much he makes I say, maybe Boots
after Boots Boots. Hey, listen in early twenty twenty six,

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when Boots beat Virgil Ortiz that people think can actually
hang with that. Styles win fights. Joe and Styles win fights.
Virgil Ortiz is a phenomenal boxer, He's a phenomenal fighter.
But Boots style null fies and everything becomes nulling board
once he gets in that ring with Boots, and I
can't wait. I can't wait till that contract gets done.

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People that actually see.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
You think you saying Boots ready for Crumford.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
No, I said, I said there's something that everyone wants
to see. That's all I said. I said something that
I think want to see. I don't think.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I don't think Booths Crawford can command to pay day
that he would get. The only fight that other than
Canelo would probably be better be theirs.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
No, you're trying to get the man killed.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I'm just saying, what's gonna command one hundred million dollar person.
Hundred million dollar person.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Oh Joe, Oh wait a minute, hold on all on
if if once let's let's say, let's say if he
does fight Canelo again, right, yes, that rematch and he
wins a rematch, which he will do because there's nothing
Canelo can do. Yeah, that can improve that much better.
And that's short amount of time where you would be,
Bud Crawford, There's nothing you can do. There's nothing you

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can do. So I'm just saying, with that being with
that being said, he is able to command that kind
of money. Turkey Ali has made boxing great again. Turkey
Ali would want to see that fight. He would want
to see a Bud and a goddamn Boots fight. And
if Bud says, I want a hundred million too, because
it's it's almost like it's high risk, low reward. But

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Turkey will make sure the purse will be there where
you know what, you can take that risk now because
here's the money for it, don't I don't me personally,
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I don't think Turkey it would put up one hundred
million dollars a purse to see Boots and Bud.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
But I do think he'll put up one hundred million
dollar purse for Bill A b there's Bud. Yeah, that's
a big ass fight. Bena Beds walks around. You tell
us what Bena Vide's walks around as. But I'm saying, now,
would I take that fight? Look, I don't think at
this point in time, Bud didn't really have anything else
to prove. He really doesn't. I'll take this rematch with
a Canelo. Get my one hundred million, and I'm out.

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Cause if you can't, he made one hundred and fifty
million the last two fights. That's what he made against Spence,
probably made ten to twelve against that fight. If he
can't live out there, let's just say, hey, he can't
live out there on yo, you.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Know I if I'm I don't know, okay, but you're
probably right. I would love to see it. I would
love to see Alicia.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Hey, we got a very special guest joining us, Alicia
Baumgardner the Super fell aweight championship.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Well, the bell said, we want to see the best
with the belts.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
You want to see the bells.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Sationybody take him back when you don't pay the sanction
and fee.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Listen, I am, I am the belt. Let's just get
that straight. And one for two it's Alicia.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
Y'alla not Alicia, please thank.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I have a question.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
What's your question?

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Before we even start this question? For you obviously with
your with your knowledge and and in knowing boxing, and
right now I see the way boxing is going right now,
boxing is now great again. What do you think at
some point in time before Carford hangs the gloves up,
a fight between call for the boots, hm, just just

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in general, what do you think would that not be
a great fight?

Speaker 5 (08:32):
I think that would be a great fight.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
I think you have two great athletes, and you know
anything with someone who has an athletic ability, we can
see really who's going to have a better game plan
when it comes to boxing?

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Right So I think I like that fight.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
See I told you, But do you believe they've putting
up the because for me, I toldt you, I think
the big fight Canelo again try to get one hundred
million dollars, But for another one hundred million dollar fight,
it's gonna have to be someone that they really feel
good that crawl fer can lose. That's why Turkey put
up one hundred million dollars to fight Canelo, and that
would be Benavide's.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
No, may be telling telling Benavidez. Who God damn big man.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
They said that about Canelo.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
Yeah, I mean it's different.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Ben, it is a little different. I do have to
agree with that.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
It is slightly different with Benavidez in the Canelo just
in regards to skill and and when we think about
selling a fight.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, so's You recently defended your unified your unified super
featherweight titles against Jennifer Miranda in July twenty five, and
you described that performance as a B plus.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Now you got Laila a boot in uh to execute better?
So what what didn't you like about the fight that
you previously had?

Speaker 6 (09:50):
What I didn't like about it is that I hold
a very high standard for myself as an athlete, as
a fighter.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
And you know I've had I had a long leag off.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Up until that point, and so I know what I
require of self. And again, a B plus is not bad,
but I know what I'm better at doing. So it's
always a learning lesson and it's always an opportunity to
go back and do what I do best, and that's
to study, that's to be better, that's to be sharper
and stronger and whatever adjustments I need to make come

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December nineteenth.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
You know what's funny is I watched it last fight
and the factor you gave it, you gave yourself a
B plus. It is funny because when I the eye
test for me actually watching you dominate that fight, whether
it be inside the pocket, fighting, fighting from the distance,
you control the god damn fight. So I'm curious, how
do you improve on what I just saw when you

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fought last time? When it damned it looked perfect to me.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
Oh listen, there's so much more improvement.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
And it's just really the you know, styles make fights,
you know that, And Miranda was a little awkward style, right,
So I'm having to make adjustments as I go, and
I just know when you can be aggressive but strategic
and how you move if you can double up on
the jab but more on the faints. There's just a
bigger and guess what, I'm fighting three minutes as Ne's
go around, so I have a for minutes to really

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dig in that bag.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Like I'm not coming with a small bag, y'all. I'm
coming with a birk and double bag. Like the seals
is deep.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Okay, yeah, so you got it's gonna be so you
you mentioned that that's where I was going next. You're
like fighting under the men's rule where you got twelve
three minute rounds.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Correct?

Speaker 6 (11:31):
Yes, so twelve rounds three minutes. This is a standard
for men's boxing. They asked me, Alicia, do you want
to do it? I said, bet, let's do it. I'm
off for accepting a challenge. And again, the fact that
I have an extra minute to really dig in my
bag of tools. Y'all listen, y'all gonna see y'all gonna

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be glued to the TV.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, and you know what, the fact that you're doing
three minutes now obviously twelve rounds, does that change the
way you prepare as far as campus concerned? Do you
train a different way now? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (12:04):
Listen, the the training has always been aggressive, but for
this one, it's it's more strategic.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Right.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
And I've been in camp y'all for twelve weeks. We
know that the fight had got postponed, so I've been
in the gym, so there's nothing but work after work
and always working on the next thing.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And I'm ready LEAs just.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Funny, Hey, how do you I've got one more course
at How do you how do you what's what's the
I'm looking for? How do you you train to a
point where you don't burn yourself out? We don't overtrain
to make sure that when you do fight you're still fresh,
you're sharp, and you and you you polish without overtraining
while you're in camp and doing too much.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Yeah, I think it's important to know who you are
as a fighter mentally. It could be a little training.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
So if I go in the gym, I say, Derek,
you know I'm having a little mental day because you
know we've been doing the same time. Okay, we may
do some film study, we may just work on the bag,
we may just do mits. And I think it's important
to find that balance because you're gonna need that come
fight week and come tonight at the fight. So I
definitely pay attention to how I'm feeling physically. I'm in

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there all day every day, but it's just more the
mental aspect for me.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, Alicia, your conditioning is pretty elite, right. What's a
part of your training or nutrition that you enjoy doing
that people will probably be shocked to know.

Speaker 6 (13:33):
Y'all gotta know, I stay in the gym because I
like to stay in the gym. So that's one thing,
like I like to stay fit. Fitness is what I do,
and I have a chef for this camp, so I'm
always making sure that I'm eating the right foods.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
You know, it's performance space, y'all. So if I get
a better advantage on how I eat.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
The water I'm drinking every day and what I'm putting
into my body, I want to have the best performance.
So I'm making sure that, you know, everything is aligning
and I'm staying.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
I'm staying. It's a lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I do this like absolutely because because you said, go ahead, Joe,
go ahead, finish up your question now.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Like even on days, even when you know you don't
have a fight coming up in the next six to
eight months, you know what I mean. Is your regiment
still pretty strict? Do you still train pretty hard?

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Like?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
What's the mindset with that?

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (14:24):
For me, it's always still being the gym. It's to
stay Actors y'all know. You know, as athletes, this is
what we've done our whole life. So I can't sit still,
you know, And so I always make sure I'm in shape.
I'm always doing something. If that's not me working out,
it's working somebody out. But I'm always staying ready, like
just physically.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
This is a I think that's one of the things
that really helped Floyd Mayweather because Floyd was probably five
or seven pounds away from his fighting weight. So you're
not getting too far away from your actual fighting weight,
so you don't have to kill yourself in those eight, ten,
twelve weeks that you're in you're trying to make You're
not trying to cut thirty forty pounds, not at all,
try to cut what ten twelve pounds.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
Listen, y'all, I'm fasten for a day and dropping two
pounds and dropping two pounds for real, Say I stay
within ten pounds.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
I'm one forty right now.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
If I eat a good meal, won forty three back
down I want forty. So honestly, it's I don't kill myself.
I enjoy fight week. I'm smiling, I get to eat
and it's a joyful weight cut to say the least.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Right, you know, I have a question about this week,
the fight, the fight, some of the fights coming up
this week. What are you thinking? Who do you have
in the pit Bull lamont Roase fight?

Speaker 5 (15:40):
I love that fight.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
I like that fight because of one they're both. We
know pit bulls aggressive, he coming forward, but he's been
neutralized already, so I want to see how discipline can
Lamont be for twelve rounds straight, to use his jab,
to use his skill. I think he has better skill
than pit Bull, So if he can utilize his have
his movements like we saw with him and Javante, and

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how Pipple has already kind of exposed himself, I think
we see we see a winner and that's Lamont. But
again credit to Pipple because he don't stop, so you
know he he's hungry just as much. You know fighters
who get a loss, they come back even hungrier. So
again I'm looking forward to that fight.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
You have to describe yourself as both a beast, a
beast in the ring and a beauty outside the ring.
I'm looking at you you aesthetically, I'm like, why why
did you decide to fight?

Speaker 3 (16:35):
What?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
What made you push you in this?

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Of all?

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Maybe basketball, maybe tennis, maybe track and field where you
could be glamorized.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
I'm like boxing.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
I like it.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
It's so funny to be a beauty and a beast
is to be a warrior. To fight for everything that
I've been fighting for as a as a young girl,
and to be a war men, to walk with favor
and presence and purpose. And it's so important that you
can find this balance. It's a duality, right, And the

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best part I don't I don't have to choose, y'all.
I embody both.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
And so when I'm hitting you like a welterweight and
dropping and doing what.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
I gotta do, yeah, meet, meet, meet, and I'm stepping
outside of the ring.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
And I'm a model, you know, do my hair, my makeup,
put the dress on the heels. Listen.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
It's it's a duality, and I love to embody both.
And I love that I can be a fighter and
fight for the things that I love and to really
showcase what it is to be that beauty and that beast.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
You know, when you talk about being that beauty and
a beast and fighting for the things you love, something
that you've done since you were young. Obviously, I'm sure
maybe as a child growing up you always want to
be a fighter or a boxer. How long do you
see yourself doing this?

Speaker 6 (17:56):
Listen, baby, it's it's embedded, Okay, for one and two,
I see myself doing until till I can't no more.
It's instilled, It's been instilled, and this is a gift
that the Lord has blessed me with. So it's my
duty to make sure that I give it my all
in the time. To be an active athlete and to
be an active woman fighter. To be on the biggest

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stage come December nineteenth is a dream and it's really
showcasing how two worlds can coexist and how.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
Men and women.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
It's not a comparison, it's a standard to have greatness,
to be great, and.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
I could do that.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
What advice would you give young girls that you would
someone had given you when you were younger?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
What advice would you give young ladies?

Speaker 6 (18:50):
Yeah, I think it's important to give a young woman
advice to know what it is to stand in power,
what it is to trust your power, what it is
to be still and to follow through when things get hard,
when things don't seem to go your way. I think
it's important to really mentor the same way I was
poured into into somebody else, because it really goes a

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long way.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Life is hard, y'all.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
And also to be a woman in a space that
you may not even know who you are.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
People have an identity issues.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
You know, you need to know who you are, so
to really encourage those to know who they are, to
know themselves, to be able to love them, like loving
yourself goes a long way.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
Knowing who you.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Are for sure, you're a fighter. You mentioned your model.
Outside of that, is there anything do you want to
do media? Is there anything that you do outside of
those two things, or anything that you would like to
do outside of those two things.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
Well, listen, the road is open for whatever is ahead.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
I love media, I love talk, and I think it's
important to be in different spaces. Y'all know, we got
one of the greatest games tomorrow, the Cowboys versus the Lions. Okay,
you Cowboys on listen, I gotta give it to you
like this.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Okay, the Eagles.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
I love that they have the champion mindset and they
did that, showed that. But also the Cowboys done showed
up in these last two games. So I'm well, what
are we doing? What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Question? Are you a Cowboys fan? Yes or no?

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Because I'm yes, Yes, I'm a Cowboys fan.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
I'm in Dallas.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
I'm a fan. I'm a I'm a fan of the
winner's team. Oho, I'm say I'm with people like, I know.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
You can't do that. You who are you a fan
of before they were winning?

Speaker 6 (20:41):
Like?

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Who is your who is your team?

Speaker 5 (20:45):
Listen? I was, I still am a Lions fan when
I lived in Detroit. I've seen the Lions.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
Go from here to here, to be the underdog, to
be in the top dog and really showing out every game.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
I'm like, Yo, that's the Lions.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
That's that Detroit hunger that they got right. And then
you know, I left De Troy, came to Dallas and
you know the atmosphere of being in Dallas and what
the Cowboys represent. I think it still shows just the
the grit that they still.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Want to be that team like they were years ago. Right, So.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
You can't switch to lead just like that just because
you relocated somewhere else. Now. I know that.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
Everybody's like, you need to pick a side.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
I said, I understand that, but you know I picked
the winner side.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
You know I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Running that's not fair. Oto boy, y'all gotta take them
hater jackets out.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
No, no, no, hey, Joe, Joe, I'm not hating. I'm
just saying, like.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
He's saying what she's saying. Oh, tell what you wanted
to do, that's what you're going from.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
You. So, Alicia, where are you originally from?

Speaker 5 (21:53):
I'm from Fremont, Ohio.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Which is so you should be a Browns or Bengals
face you have.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
I'm definitely listen. I'm definitely a Michigan fan. Charles Woodson
is from my hometown. So it kind of falls into
it kind of falls into that. I know, I'm all
over the place, but that's.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
Okay, because I can't be. Okay, I can't be. I
come from Wilson, y'all.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
I come from a small country town in Ohio, and
so being in a city like Michigan, you.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Know, I always been a Michigan fan. So you know,
I'm like, you know, I like this, you know Ohio State.
I mean, shout out to them. They just want I
get that.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
But you know, gee, that type, you know what, she
gonna show up one team to win the other teams
going first.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah for that team. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Nah, I'm gonna stick to my side. I'm gonna sick
to my side.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Okay, you know what, to go back to the boxing
and have one mode obviously, maybe you know how how
much I love boxing. Obviously, that's why I keep asking
these goddamn questions. And I don't mean to put that.
I don't mean to put the carriage before the horse.
But December nineteen, I already know what it's gonna look like.
I already know what you're gonna do. I understand your style.
I've seen the young lady that you're fighting. I don't
mean to put the goddamn character for the horse. But

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if you were to want to fight someone else, if
you were to have a name that you want to
see after this victory, because I'm telling you what's gonna happen,
Is there anybody out there that you want to fight
after this one?

Speaker 5 (23:16):
I would love to fight Katie Taylor.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
I would love to fight Katie Taylor. Katy Taylor is
a pedigree of a fighter. No, let me not say
that of a boxer. And because I have skills like
a boxer. You will see a boxer so high class
and so high level that you appreciate you. You would
think you wouldn't even say two women are fighting. You

(23:40):
would just enjoy this. This the boxing aspect, right, And
I think you know Katie has done a lot for
the sport has changed the game and I would love
a fight with her.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Those fights with Sarana was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I know they were. They went down to the wire.
I thought I thought the first fight, I thought she
had out of there. But a dug deep.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
Yeah, he dug deep, he dug deep, And I respect
a couple of.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Boxing, a couple more boxing questions.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
You saw with the WBC stripped Blood of the title
because he wouldn't pay the sanction and fees.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
You got scripted, but your title because you know they
like that.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Noah, the women fighting, you know twelve you know, twelve
rounds at three minutes.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Now, we're not a part of that. So are you
okay with this?

Speaker 6 (24:24):
You know, like like anything, we make the belt, the
belt don't make us. And it's important that you know,
we worked very hard to get to a space where
we can say we're undisputed and we are world champion.
But it does not it will not take away from
the fact that you can't say I did that. And again,

(24:44):
you know, boxing is a freelance for it, y'all. Boxing
is a wild, wild wide still is, and so it's
just one of those things you got to make sure
that you are going to be straight with yourself because
no one else is going to take care of you
like you're gonna take care of yourself.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
So that's what that looks like.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
And you know, I had the opportunity to keep my belt,
but I said, you know what, No, hell, I'm gonna
I'm gonna accept this challenge.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
I'm gonna do this twelve rounds, three minutes and make history.
And that's exactly what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
I like the Jake Paul Anthony Joshua.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
If this is if, if, if, if this is on
the up and up, do you give Jake Paul a
realistic chance? Anthony josh is a super heavyweight. He won
the gold medal. Uh, we know he got down. He
got dynamite in that right hand. He's a job enormous
of sixty four, two forty five, two fifty. Uh. I
think it's uh, I think it's A promoter said that

(25:37):
he's like two sixty five, So he's gonna have to
share some weight right now, Tell us what you think,
give us the give us the fighters approached. What what
are you thinking about this fight?

Speaker 6 (25:47):
Yeah, so listen my eye test saying a lot of things,
all right.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
And for real.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
You know, listen this this is so cliche to say,
but any any fighter has a chance.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Right.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
We've seen Jake Paul knock people out, and we seen
Anthony Joshua not people out. They both have a punching
a punching chance. Right, who was gonna Who's going to
have a better game plan? That's the question, Right, you
have a high difference, you have a way difference.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
But again I have to give credit with credits due.

Speaker 6 (26:16):
Jake has been able to train with some quality trainers
from Detroit that I know, and he's been able to
progress in a way that a lot of people haven't,
that people still don't believe in. So this is an
opportunity for Jake to really showcase some real skill and
a real game plan to be Anthony Joshua. But then,
on the other hand, I respect Anthony Joshua, who is

(26:37):
also a heavyweight champion, who is also saying, you know what,
you're really playing it crazy. I'm about to show you
what real boxing is about, right, because there's still this
is it real?

Speaker 5 (26:48):
Is it not?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
It's it's real.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
We saw Jake Paul knock got people that weren't boxers.
The one boxer that he foult he did not beat
which was Tyson Fury's or Tommy Fury. Now, this is
a real professional prize fighting boxer, heavyweight champion. This this
is this is different than knocking out people that came
from the NBA or came from.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
M l A or things of that nature.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
This is the actual prize fighter that's still that still
fights actively.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
This is true.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
But you know one thing about the mind, when you
believe in yourself, when you see no other way. But
when that's that's that's the mentality that Jake has. And
I think he's just shown that every time he's having
to ring, regardless of who it is.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
I'm here, I did this, I'm about to show y'all
again and I and I, like, you know, the mentality matters.
What you have to know you're gonna go on there
win even if it's delusion.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
I don't know, you know. And one last boxing question,
My last question, and it's more of a statement and
a question for you obviously, Uncle Joe. Uh. I'm letting
y'all know ahead of time. At Licia, there's another really
good fight two of the greatest fighters of all time
that that are gonna be fighting soon. Three minutes rounds

(28:01):
andre Ward. Andre Ward is coming back out of retirement.
He's gonna fight me sometime. Yeah, with your expertise and
you knowing how much I love and how long I've
been training. What round you think I'm gonnaknock andre Ward
ass out next year?

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Keep twelve rounds?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah? Hell yeah? Okay, hopefully for Oh So you want
to want me to put him out in four?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, I don't want you to go. I don't want
you to get in that deep water.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, you know I can swim after after after round seven,
telling Alicia, after that round seven you start getting the
deep waters.

Speaker 6 (28:35):
Listen, we're gonna we're gonna have to see how them
legs are. I will say this though. You got a
great stance though.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, you got the fundamentals.
I'm not gonna take that away.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
So I think when you can learn to to you know,
use that back leg a little saw, that thing, you know,
the power, you may have a puncher's chance.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Me.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
That's me, that's me, that's me, for real, for real,
with good look on the night team, Alicia, thank you
for joining us.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
We really appreciate you taking time out to stop by
night cap. I'm sure our chat chat really appreciate you
stopping by. Best of luck and when you win the
when you I don't know she got a belt. If
she got a belt, take that belt, come back and
show it to us, because we ain't see no belts tonight.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
Well said I got all the belts, sir, Like I said,
I got all the belts. I am the belt.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
But yes, you will see you.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Thank you very much. I appreciate your time, good luck,
and we'll see you down the road.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Alicia Baumgardner joining us tonight. She's fighting on the nineteenth.
Make sure you check that fight out.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Hey, hey, Joe, Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna beat the
ship out of Andre Wood. B I hope you a dre.
I hope you see this drake, you gotta get first.
I love you like a brother. But boys going down.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Hey boy, you're writing a lot of checks. O Joe, huh,
you writing a lot of checks.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
It's one thing about my checks. They gonna bounce. I know.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Hey, guys, check this out. I can tweet it, presumably,
I guess it. Said us.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
You can't say nothing in the world nowadays. That's why
I've been in my own lane, my own world, and
put it the way people love to take ish out
of context to rationalize the statement in their own head
that makes sense to them.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
What a world.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Video came out today of Odell's selling game Warren Chrome
Heart Cleats for fifty K.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah yeah, young.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Remember remember when I you were telling me the story, unk,
and I said, I thought, I thought he was giving
perspective and context on how difficult it is to to
be able to manage money. I didn't. I didn't really
think he was talking about himself.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
No, oh Joe, if you got, oh Choe, what's difficult
about managing sixty million liquid?

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Hold on, well, what's what's difficult? Unk? The number of
the percentage of athletes NBA, NFL, MLB is damned in
ninety percent. Now, So I mean it's difficult. That's why
I thought. I thought. I thought because the first thing,
when he said it and gave context and perspective on
how difficult it is, I thought he was meaning in general,

(31:05):
not specifically talking about himself. That's all. But go ahead, but.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
I get what he's saying. But you're spending, first of all,
spending four million dollars and yearly expenses yes, sir, your home, family, home, X, Y,
and Z. Well, first of all, to spend that, you
need to make at least ten million, depending on where
you are. Now, if you're in a state, that takes
fifty percent. Now, if you in Las vent you and Nevada,

(31:31):
you in Texas, you in Florida. I think Ohio has
no state income tax. I think Arizona is like two percent.
So if you're in one of those states, so it's
gonna take about ten million to do that to have
that kind of lifestyle. Now, now what happens is OJO
is that you still try to maintain that lifestyle, Joe,
when you're not bringing in ten million and you're still
spending out that money. Kind of money going out. That's

(31:52):
why they go out. That's why you see guys go
barely up. OJO is that you don't change your spending habits.
It's the same way if you're an athlete, you eat
whatever you want, you work out. Now all of a sudden,
you're not an athlete, and you still eat whatever you want.
Now all of a sudden, dB look like d Lineman.
That's what happens with money.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
A think about what you just said, Hey, Joe, Think
about what you just said, right, Think about what un
just said real quick, right, is you're living a lifestyle
when the money's coming in fast. You become accustomed to
that lifestyle. That lifestyle actually becomes your image, and it
becomes an identity. So once you stop playing the transition

(32:32):
to be able to stop and have the discipline to
be able to cut it off, to become an a
minimalist almost in the sense it's almost impossible. It's hard
because you always want to maintain that lifestyle and that
dam image. Because what's the first thing everybody that you're
trying to God damn impressed. Don't say all he ain't
got in the mode.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
He the first time you ain't got a new car? Man,
he he must be doing.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Bad, right bad with a new every other yah he
Hey Joe, Hey, Joe and uncle.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
One thing about it, boy, I learned early. I learned early.
I did not want to try to keep up with
the Joneses. I did not want to keep Hey Joe
and I and Joe. I did it when I was
making the bulk of my money. Joe, Joe, I came
in the NFL already cheap as hell. I didn't care
about people making fun of me. I didn't care about
certain types of women, not one to date me because
they know, Yeah, he ain't gonna he ain't paying nothing,

(33:25):
He's not you know, you ain't getting nothing out. That's
that's okay. But I understand, I understand dealing with you.
It is nothing but a liability anyway. You know, I
got the table and the legs you got ain't gonna
hold it up, you know. So you understand that you
play the game, Joe. It's all a game, and the
better you learn to play the game, the longer you

(33:46):
will be able to be without. It's okay, but you
have so many of us, so many of us are
so caught up and looking like we fucking got it,
Like I don't. Everybody want to be rich. Everybody want
to look like they like like ship. No, that's it's
not reality. Social media has us fool and that's all

(34:08):
of us. Food. They ain't got me food.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
They ain't got me food because I know, damn well,
I do okay, and I ain't living like that.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
No, I ain't got it like that. You know, A
scary Joe, Joe, this is a scary part. And this
is this is for men and women. When it comes
to the people that try to maintain that lifestyle, and
you know they don't make the kind of money to
continue that lifestyle, especially if you don't play sports. If
you don't play sports and you and all this flashy shit,

(34:37):
that means you're willing to do anything, anything to maintain
that image. That in itself is dangerous.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Joe.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
If you leave the sport and you get you a
gig and you making money like Steven A, you making
money like straight Hand, you making money like Tony Romo,
You're making money like Tom Brady.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah, take off, Wait, hold on, hold on now. What
you're not gonna do is I ain't gonna me. I
don't mean to put the people in our business, but
if you're making money like uncle Ocho, you Hey, listen,
nobody like that, huh said? Everybody up?

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Everybody good, mom, good, sister, good, everybody good.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Listen listen. I'm I'm gonna say this one more time.
I said, I see them numbers at the end of
each month. Just add us to that goddamn equation. I'm
gonna tell you what my grandma always told me speaking
he speaking of to existence.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Hello, we.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Do okay, Hey, when you say, okay, add three more
wives to it.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Okay. I saw I saw a guy today, I saw
I read a quote.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yes, the guy was.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
He was basically said, he says, as you become more
famous and you become more well off, relationships become more transactional.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Understand and that understand that I'm learning that.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Do me a favor. Do you a favor, just in
case the chat didn't hit you, because I got one
for you. Say it one more time. Say it well famous,
make sure the chat.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
The more famous you becoming, the more well up you become,
the relationships become more transactional. Y'all know what transactional is.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yes, I agree hearing it.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
He let me, let me get, let me get Let
me dive a little deep before you real quick, uncle Joe.
Even if you're not wealthy, even if you're not making millions,
even if you're making one hundred thousands, or even if
you're a thousand there you know, you know, get paid
every two weeks. The individual that you're dealing with is
still dealing with you based on the ability for you

(36:44):
to provide and give them stability and a sense of
peace always always, so it's still aligne those those those same,
that same quote and the analogy that unc you's are
still aligned regardless of how much you make based on
your partner, Ask partner and tell her to be truthful.
If you lost the opportunity to provide, if she'll still

(37:05):
be there, Ask your partner if you being able to
make things convenient and the opportunity dealing with you didn't
present it, This didn't present itself in a good manner.
If she will still be there, and tell her to
be honest with you. And you know a lot of
women will say, oh, I don't deal with nobody for
no money. It ain't it ain't about that, Like, come on, now,

(37:27):
let's stop. And the funny thing about it is you're
always paying for who you're dealing with. And the only
thing this is the only thing chat. I want you
to do me a small favor. Go to my Twitter
and read my bio. Now there's a joke at the beginning,
but I tell the truth towards the end. And now

(37:47):
I'm gonna just leave it. Just go to my Twitter
and read my bio and the truth is sitting right there.
No matter what they try to tell you. That's what
it all comes down to. No matter what they say.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, But I just think the thing is, Look, one
hundred million dollar contract. I think everybody understands one hundred million.
Nobody is getting all hundred million of that. You've got
to pay. You got to pay federal income tax. I
don't give a damn what state you live in. You
got to pay federal income tax. And you have something
called a jock tax. If you're a professional athlete and
you go to certain states, you gotta pay for the
money that you earn there. If you go to certain

(38:21):
states and you work, you have to pay money that
you earned in that state. I think everybody is nobody
is under the assumption anymore that when they see one hundred.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Million, somebody actually got one hundred million.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
But to get sixty million to get basically, if you,
like I said, you live in a tax free state
and you only got to pay thirty thirty let's just
say on the high end, you're paying thirty seven percent
federal income tax. That means of a million dollars you
get six hundred and thirty seven you get six hundred
and thirty thousand. So if you bring home, if you
got sixty million liquid, theoretically, oh Joe, you put that

(38:55):
in a fund. You put that in a fund, you
gonna get five to eight percent. There'd be some years
you get ten twelve percent. So even if you're just
getting five percent on sixty million, that's three million dollars
a year. Man, if you can't live out three million
dollars a year, you got issues. I'm saying, like a
Jay z is somebody that got full time security and
they got all these shelves and they got all these people.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Obviously it requires more than that.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
But I'm saying for the average person, Yeah, like myself, Joe,
you mean, man, if you.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Can't whoa whoa, whoa whoa. Listen, I'm not average, I'm extraordinary.
Know what I'm saying. I'm cheap as hell noger bush.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
And but I'm saying people like us because the average
person is not gonna be in a situation to make
that kind of money.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
I'm not talking about. I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Look if you got if you make, if you make
a million dollars a year, unless you got extraordinary expenses.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
That shil you should be good.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, get you a nice little get your
nice little house payment. Say you know five somewhere between
five and seventy five hundred a month. Get you a
nice car. You and your wife get a nice car.
She got one, You got one kids. Because probably if
you make that kind of money with Joe, it's hard,
you're gonna probably be sending your kids to private school.
Is it? Just is what it is. There are very

(40:11):
few people that make a million dollars a year and
the kids go to public school. I'm just being honest
with you. Now, I know everybody saying I send my kids.
It's easy for you to say that when you're not
in that situation. But most people that make that kind
of money that kids go to private school. And what
we were trying to do, we didn't say it was
We were just trying to say how people go barely

(40:31):
up because when you have kids, multiple kids, and you
live in certain states and you pay five, ten, fifteen,
twenty thousand dollars per child, you got three kids, if
you got if you're paying that kind of money for
the kids, guess what else you're paying for private school?
Private schools cost you somewhere between ten and thirty thousand
a year.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
So now compound that, Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
You get one hundred thousand a year. Ooh ae hundred thousand. Yeah, no,
you're paying a hundred thig. Yeah, so if you pay
twenty twenty twenty, that's sixty thousand a month times eighteen years.
Ay plus another plus. Let's just say, oh children, you
got three kids. Then they go to private school and
that's another twenty thousand, So that's another sixty thousand a

(41:15):
year times eight. Well, they're not gonna stay the same
because private schools go up every year. So it might
start out at twenty and by the time they get
to be seniors, that's probably be thirty thirty five. So
we're just trying to explain to people how it happens.
Is that that's why they said eight, get you one.
If I could do it over again, I'd have all
my kids from one, I get married, save myself a

(41:36):
lot of money, like a lot of.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
See. See that's why I see, That's why I'm thankful. Hey, Joe,
sometimes they got to get up. See That's what I'm
gonna do, just this conversation in general. I'm gonna get
on my knees after the show, and I'm gonna thank God.
I'm gonna thank God because uncles ran off from goddamn numbers, right,
and that's just and you think Joe I got eight, Joe,
I got eight Joe, and I listen to hey, hold on,
listen to me. Le me tell you what I'm Joe.

(42:00):
Let me tell you I'm grateful though, Joe. Unks just
ran off them numbers, right, boy, I ain't never seen it,
never had to do nothing like that, Joe.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
You know, no private none of your kids went to
private schools, none of that.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
No, no, no, no, Joe, Joe, my kids needed a
different time, Ojo. Yeah, yeah, young my kid didn't carry
different time.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, even even even even now, o Jo, what you
was paying, you probably have to double that even just
because the cost of living is higher. You're talking about
you're talking about fifteen, eighteen, twenty years ago, so you
know what the cost is right now. Yeah, the cost
of living is going up, so is the cost of
raising the child.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
As a Joe, some of them numbers, Unk was ripping
off to you know, them people, them the type of
people you know, having kids by certain people and it
ain't really about the child in the first place.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
But they'll be that's what.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Come on now, Yeah, can you can you imagine having
to pay for a child fifty thousand a month, dude,
one hundred thousand a month, yeah, two years old? What
the hell? What we doing? Boy?

Speaker 1 (43:09):
The fact that they that they granted to some people.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Oh yeah, absolutely, because it's basic, it's based on me.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
It's mind boggling.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
I'm like, man, how somebody need thirty forty fifty K
a month for a child?

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (43:23):
I know a guy that was paying in the early
two thousand was playing fourteen thousand a month. I know, yeah,
I know a few cunts who's paying more than this
thousand a month.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I know a dude.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Playing seventeen thousand a month, twenty two thousand a month.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
I'm like, man, you.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Know, hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars a year is
where you foul at too, though.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
You know where they had them kids at. Now.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
There are some states that the map is capped. You
can only get xmout. You might only get thirty five hundred,
you only get five right. And then some states they
based on how much the father may I'm saying, and
they make you responsible for the private tuition because they
say if the child, the child should be afforded the
life that I the child was with you, that the

(44:10):
child would enjoy without you.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Now, I ain't telling what somebody told me. I'm telling you. See,
y'all can talk about a whole lot. Don't know what
you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Bullge Eye.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, I'm with you when you're right.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Hey, hey boy, that's a I'm glad. I'm glad. Boy.
Those I had kids from boy, they wasn't like that.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
Man.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yeah, Joe, I'm Joe. I'm getting on my nigga. I
just just just it makes me cringe hearing the numbers
and uh and it also I'm present, Joe.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
And that's my thing. Ojo. It's like these numbers.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
I'm telling y'all, I heard about cats paying and many
they almost got custody of their kids and they still paying.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Absolutely absolutely. You get the kids during the summer, you
get the kids for one or two months. Guess what,
you still got to send that same money.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
So we're gonna move up.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Af Duel Cardinal was asked today a boy hearing teammates
say he needs to grow up. He responded, I'll take it.
The guys who say that are the guys I look
up to. I respect. If they say something like that,
I've got to look at myself and say how can
I get better? Lawrence Taylor also had a message for
Abdua Carter, saying, wake up. This is what you work for,
this is what you want to be. So now that
you're there, wake up.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
I like it. That's a good response from him. That's
a grown up response too. Yeah, that's a grown up response.
You know, normally pick in the draft and then you
sleep in the meetings.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
You miss Come on that, old Joe. Yeah, you're right right.
We gotta hold these kids account. He and a kid,
he's grown ass man, he's paying bills.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't jumped on me twice already.
We don't jump already.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
We understand Joe being an ex basketball player, Oh you'll
not be an ex football players. We understand that some
guys mature a little slower than other guys, especially when
it comes to being professional at their occupation. Yeah, but
at some point in time, bro, how many times they
got This is twice in a matter of less than

(46:09):
a month that you've missed time because of something that
you can't control.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Three weeks to be exact.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah, that's in college.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
This is not college. They're not going to babysit you, bro.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Mm hmm. Man, Hey, look, he getting a little grace too, Joe,
because you know he is a third pick in the draft,
but you only gonna get well, actually, third pick, he's
gonna get a little a lot of grace. Hey.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Man.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
When I came another team, Hey, when I came into
the league, un ojo, I was so nervous and scared.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
I tried to do everything in the right way, try
to be not on time, but way before time, you
know what I mean. But because I came up and
I was coached by d Nolan Richardson at the University
of Arkansas, who was so old school he ain't play
none of that, bro, Like I was. I was groomed
for all this before I even got to the pros.
So when I did get somewhere and the coach was

(47:05):
playing these mind games, man, I don't have been through
all that. I'm seeing ready. Yeah, hey, look, I'm still
gonna show up. I'm still gonna do my work. I'm
gonna still do what I have to do, and I'm
gonna play hard. So I understood that at a young age.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Man. Yeah, I like it. I like it.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Mayor Porty used to say, boy, that's the old school way. Man,
gives you an honest salary. You give him honest day's work.
You be on time. You know what time you gotta
be at work? Yeah, oh, I thought, bro, you come
to work every day. Work started eight o'clock. What you
mean you thought today you started to fifty? I just,
I just, I just I'm just gonna be I'm just

(47:43):
a sticker for time. And maybe I'm too much of
a stickler for time, but my time is valuable. It's
too valuable. I don't have a whole lot of it.
I definitely don't. I'm on the other side, you know
what I'm saying. I'm fifty seven. I'm on the other
side of you. I ain't got a whole lot of time.
And there's gonna be a time. There's gonna be a
time that I'm gonna wish I'm a have some time back,
and I'm waiting on some jack leg that bull driving around.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
All right, Oh, you and Joe's time to play play
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Speaker 1 (48:11):
All right, you got it.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
The first ones for you.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Joe, Anthony Rawards will have more than forty points, rebounds
and assists, so he'll have he'll have when you combine
his points, rebound them assists, it'll be more than forty
who play.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Pelicans, Oh yeah they Yeah, points, rebound, assists forty. He
for sure getting in hell, they probably don't get that
off a point.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
He getting that, all right, Derrick Queen for he'll have
at least four assists. They played the Temple Wolves.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
I like Big Queen. I'm giving him, Yeah, I'm giving
I'm giving them them four citys.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, all right, we're going for George Pickets eighty one receiving.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Yards absolutely tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, hello, Terry out Yeah yeah, yeah. I'm not sure
if he was in it have made much of a difference.
But I'm going more Jamison Williams more than eighty three
point five receiving yards.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yeah, absolutely, hell yeah, they gonna get.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Eighty four yards to gainst your your Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Joe is a I'm and Ross Saint Brown playing because
you know it's a game, it's a game time decision
with his ankle.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
That's gonna that's gonna determine the line. Yeah, nah, he
ain't in that.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
And the thing is a Cowboys Cowboys D line been
playing really good. Yeah, give some love Clowney and Williams
and you know a diggie Zua Clark, Quinny Williams.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
They shaking it up with Ken Clark.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Yeah, we're trying to make a little late late serge,
you know, going down the stretch.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
I'm gonna say under, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Twenty five dollars to win a buck fifty download it
after day use coach Shannon to get fifty dollars in
lineups after you play your first five dollars lineup prize ficks.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
It's good to be right.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Hey, hey, Joe, what's up? I got a joke? You
want to hear it?

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Let me hear what you got?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Aren't you ready? Yeah? Chat y'all ready?

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Okay and stay ready?

Speaker 3 (50:39):
All right? Hey, what's the kidnapper's favorite shoe?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
A kidnapper's favorite shoe? Yeah, hush, puppy Joe.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
What do you think.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Kidnappers favorite shoe?

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I don't know what?

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Yo? Here? You are ready? Yeah, White Vans been here
time five? Final segment in the evening is time for you?

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Hey here.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Aaron Jones. Any Buffalo fans in the chat? You can
get this work, you know, damn well, Slay and miss
wanted to come back to Philly. Waiver Wire needs to
be needs to go. Darris Slay was released. He asked
for and got his release by the Steelers. Uh.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
He was picked up by the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Ojo.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
He was hoping that to get back, maybe potentially get
back to Philly, But it's not gonna happen. He's gonna
be in Buffalo. Keper know what, Junr I will always
be here for you at oh Yo.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Love.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Always appreciate that. Keeper appreciate that. Aaron oens five one three.
Davonte Adams has one hundred and seventeen touchdowns. I think
he got a shot to catch t O and Randy
before he retires. I agree, play it the way he's
playing right now. Yeah, I don't know if Jerry. I
don't know if Jerry's one ninety seven when they reach,

(52:19):
but hey, he's got fourteen right now.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
I can see a scenario where he gets twenty.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Yeah, absolutely, he's on He's on the right team to
do it too. Yeah, on the right team in the
right system where they they throw the volume in volume
and the opportunity are gonna alway present themselves.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Hot water Colin brand Fish and say, oh, can we
get a new Lakers in five?

Speaker 1 (52:37):
We got some brewing. We definitely got some brewer.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
We gotta find out who they gonna get, who they
gonna get, you know, you know we got Luke on
our side now, so we got something.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
We definitely got something brewing.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Quaz three three six Trey fold Native here uh C
three three is a legend. Would love to see Houston
pick him up much love.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
I don't think you.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Think you think it. Noybody else pick him up.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Joe.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I think he would get picked up, but I don't
think Houston gonna pick him up.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Doctor Frankie L. Bellaman.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Oh, that was a great interview with doctor Bryant. Sounds
like she's giving you the same advice I did. I
just don't get it. You've been hit by man Away
with two hundred files who could bench fresh of Buick,
but you won't let the right woman touch your heart.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Hey, hold on, hold on, are we supposed to get
We're supposed to be getting married next year. You got
somebody in line up, don't you. Yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Yeah, I mean doctor, doctor, doctor frank You know I'm
which right now, I'm with you, We right okay.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Yeah, we were good. Doc were good cause you know,
were having a dual wedding, well actually triple because Joe
you said you're gonna come.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
To huh yeah, I'm gonna beat there with Joe.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
No, I tell you about be there be part of it.
We could be the first. We could be the first people.
We can do the we can do the show, we
can do nightcap during the wedding.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
Yeah, we got to work out the logistics and all that.
We got to we got to sit down at the
round table.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
But this okay, okay, okay, but I think that would
be We'll be the first one to ever have sounds.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
It sounds good, It sounds yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's nice.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Smoke Phase three three three.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
He's not He's six on the score unless all time
for the Clippers, number one in an assist and he
can't say anything. So let me ask you a question.
Can that help him? Being number one, number six in
the scoring and number one of assists?

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Can that help them?

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Now?

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Hm? That's why I keep telling y'all gotta update your resume.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Yeah you do, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
I think I'm with you when you got to update
your resume. But I think the work that he's put in, man,
unless it was him shouting and yelling at the coaches
or the assistant coaches, I think the man should have
an input though. He should be able to say something
like I said.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
He said it, and they say, Okay, we don't want
to hear it no more. He did, Joe, That's probably
what got him out of there.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
You're probably right. You're probably right. I think get in
another thing by him. You know, he spent the bulk
of his years playing for the Clippers. Man, he probably
you know, he probably had a sense of comfort, comfortability
and being there and and and and being able to
voice what he felt.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
You know, he's seen. Uh so, Yeah, maybe they just
weren't having it.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Gary Julian has them sat the bench for years. His
voice meant the most in the locker room. So he
definitely blamed Uh ignore him, you should know better. Chris
Paul made that franchise relevant. Ro Haslm never left. That
was his sole role. I mean, Chris Paul. How many

(55:44):
teams that Chris Paul been on since he left the Clippers. Yeah,
he been at Okay, see, he been at Houston, he
been at Phoenix, he been at San Antonio.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
DEFU and U D it's been there. Know the franchise
he played for. He's front Florida.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Ye yes, yeah, uh ma'am seven. Anyone with two eyes
notes MJ is the goat. Well, I got three eyes,
two eyes two.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I'm a cyclops. I got three because it's broun to me.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
J J Carbon eighty oh at this point reached out
to Goddo for sponsorship. We definitely uh little David sixty
one Johannis want to ship a chip for the team
they was drafted from. He could leave if he wants.
Briand ran to Cleveland because he could not win it.
He ran to Miami because he couldn't win in Cleveland. Okay,

(56:46):
Dbron win winning Cleveland, didn't he come back and win one.
Bron never got traded. Bron never asked to get traded.
Played these years out in Cleveland, went to Miami, played
flour years in Miami, went back to.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Cleveland, played four years in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Lebron never got traded, never asked to get traded. I
don't have a problem with guys leaving and getting traded.
I get a problem with guys trying to throw shade
when Lebron did something and they secretly turn around and
do the exact same thing. That's the only problem I got.
I got a problem with y'all just want to leave. Hey,
go where you feel you have a better chance to win.

(57:29):
But I remember a couple of years ago, and y'all
remember it too, Babin Ptail Jannis to the Warrior for
k kaminga pozzek excuse me and two picks. No, that's
not gonna do it. Give me a curry and to
it'll pick. Okay then, so no, get to step it.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
That ain't.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Trible. F stopped.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Saturday said shout out there, Godo for keep showing up
night Camp. Come on, man, get your money back. Also
pay on kids money. Yeah, do that on Joe Robert
Goldman's up. You told bun Bee you want to host
Nightcap at the Houston Rodeo next year.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Do you have the date?

Speaker 2 (58:12):
I want to play in flights in the hotel and advance,
go bears. I know we're gonna reach out to uh
to bun see what's going on.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
That's gonna be live hold.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
On y'all, y'all gonna bull ride and all that. You know,
I'm gonna host we're gonna host the show.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Hey, I'm gonna ride the bulls and a Joe, I'm
gonna do everything. We're gonna make that a part of
the show. That's gonna be an extension of the show.
I'm gonna go out there, crazy boy Joe. But you know, Joe,
you know I ride bulls, horses, I do all that, Joey.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
They say, if you ain't living life on the edge,
you're taking up too much space.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Who you telling?

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yeah, okay, that's okay. I'm gonna taking up the space
that I occupy. Ain't occupying nobody else space, So don't
worry about what I doing over here. Shelled the pope
who's winning a three on three to eleven nightcap? Big
three versus five twenty? Oh, we got them, they say,
one bet you about Big three? Uh me and you,
oh Joe against five to twenty, We got them.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Hold on, Hey, a matter of fact, I'm I'm whoever
just said that while we're just thinking about that earlier
to day, having all the podcasters, all the podcasts, five
twenty the pivot, uh.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Busting with the pivot not beating us.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Hold on, but listen and he un just something competitive
where we all where we all have we all compete
in something. I mean that that would be so fun,
like a like a podcast wars, a something I don't
I don't know. I don't I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
I'm just what we're playing. I mean they say three
on three to eleven, three on three? Good?

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Hey, we good?

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Hey, hey them boy like they hell? Man we good?

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Hey, y'all will have all them because I'm beating them. Man,
we get out on the block. Joe, Yeah, oh, Joe,
can you Yeah? I can shoot, Joe. Don't worry out
of Joe. You got l up in the block. We
won't find out if you can shoot because I ain't
passing an ish.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Hey, don't worry about it. I'm like Shay out there
on the court.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
That's what we're not gonna do. All right, all right,
all right, hey hey Joe, he Jo, we saw you.
We saw you. We saw you. We saw you. No,
you're not like shape. I am like shape. Yeah, you
like shade bow wild daughter. You not playing? You not playing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
We're not throwing you the ball. You not get any rebound.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
I'm a competitor. You throw me the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Hey, hey, hey o Joe, long o Joz.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Hey, that's he That's what I did. I ain't this.
That wasn't my job. We had a score. You say,
you said it was all about knowing your role, right.
I understood my role when I was there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
What we gotta worry about this Gil Gil because you
got Kenyon.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
And I'm I'm a Gil bad he had with Man.
You ain't gonna ship.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
KG and Paul Pierce. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
I got I got KG because I'm talking about his game.
I got KG. I'm talking about the game. I'm gonna
have my.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Yeah and congratulations till five twenty. They got an Adidas deal,
they signed the shoe deal. Nightcap next. But see you
see full front of of them. So but you don't
see what we got on. I got on flip flops.
Actually I got on crocs. Yeah, I got on socks.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
They dirty though, right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Mauricio' is a PETA got twelve thousand minutes listening to
Nightcap on Spotify. Mauricio, thank you, bro. Hey, I don't know, man,
that means you probably in the top one because we've
been seeing that a lot today.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
We can't thank you guys enough. We see you guys
that that's got all these minutes. You're in the top
zero zero zero part one percent. Hey, we appreciate that, bro,
We appreciate that. Can can't thank you guys enough. Brandon Crow,
Oh your told me to catch you outside for my
comment on Jerry not being able to catch well, I'm
still waiting. It's coldest ish outside, so hurry. Yeah, oh yoe,

(01:02:07):
I bet your Cleveland trade Cleveland? We trade, y'all, Judy
for T Higgins?

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
You want that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
You want that trade? You said here number one, you
say Higgins a number So why not make that trade?

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
What's what's trade? Trade?

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
T Higgins for Jared Judy Cleveland?

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Yeah, we can do we can do that. We can
do that. What you're trying to what you're trying to
do Cleveland, trying to trade you Jared Judy for T. Higgins.
I say, okay, come on, T gonn t t gonna
want to go over there? And that's T don't want
to go to Cleveland. I'm just asking you what do
you want to trade?

Speaker 7 (01:02:47):
I'm just asking do you think T is gonna want
to go over there to Cleveland? Based on what I
think I think he's gonna want to go get his money.
I don't know if he's gonna be able to come
back next year. This is based the one year deal.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, the basement word.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
You're dal But thank you guys for joining us for
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Hey, wait, thank You'm I got one more joke beg
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